May 05, 2014

Overnight Open Thread (5-5-2014)
— Maetenloch

Well due to internet issues tonight all you get is ONT helper. And ONT helper does just fine by itself.

What Does It Feel Like to be Stupid?

I  had an arterial problem for a couple of years, which reduced blood supply to my heart and brain and depleted B vitamins from my nerves (to keep the heart in good repair). Although there is some vagueness as to the mechanisms, this made me forgetful, slow, and easily overwhelmed. In short, I felt like I was stupid compared to what I was used to, and I was.
However, once I got used to it and resigned myself, it was great. Even though I knew I had a worrying illness, I was happy as a pig in mud. I no longer had the arrogance of being frustrated with slow people, I abandoned many projects which reduced a lot of stress, I could enjoy films without knowing what would happen (my nickname before this used to be 'comic book guy' if you get the reference), and I became amazingly laid back and happy go lucky. I got on with people much better. I developed much more respect for one of my friends in particular who I always considered slow - it turned out he is much deeper than I thought, I just never had the patience to notice before. You could say I had more time to look around. The world just made more sense. The only negative, apart from struggling to perform at work, and having to write everything down, was that I no longer found sci-fi interesting - it just didn't seem important. (I'm not joking, although it sounds like a cliché.)
After a year or so I am almost as 'clever' as I used to be, although I tend to ignore distractions more than I used to and focus on a smaller number of projects. I'm still more laid back than I used to be though, and have more patience with people. Most people still find me more socially competent. I also enjoy sci-fi again.

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Of Course Joe Biden Will Run in 2016

The point here isn't just that the thumbnail profile of Biden as a "happy warrior" who can't conceive of life outside of politics is true. It's that Biden truly believes he should be president. Biden didn't run in 2008 simply because he wanted the big desk in the Oval Office. He thought Americans deserved one last chance to do the right thing and make him president, as he thought they should have done in 1988. The fact that they didn't was, in his estimation, their mistake, not his.

Joe Biden is So Totally Running in 2016

Joe Biden Tries to Convince Canadian to Sign Up for O-Care

Joe Biden: Obama Gave Me 'Every S*** Job In The World'

This story doesn't need a set-up. Just enjoy it. Well, except for the part where Biden supposedly gets the last word with Obama. The man has been wrong on just about every foreign policy issue over the last 30 years. When his input isn't ludicrous, it's dangerous.

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Then and Now

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Being on the left means never being wrong. Or sorry.

Just as I was never told as a child that Lee Harvey Oswald was a communist stooge who defected to the USSR, the next generation won't know that the 9/11 hijackers were hot for Jihad unless someone tells them

And pretty soon we won't be able to talk about the attacks of September 11th either, not unless we feign amnesia about who did it and why. It will be one of those things that only old screwballs talk about.

...Never did I imagine that it would be controversial to say that Muslims attacked us on 9/11. How did we arrive here?

What appears to be happening now is a concerted effort to make the world forget what took place that September morning or, failing that, to erase from our collective memory the identity of the perpetrators. Years ago I would have thought it impossible to achieve such a task but that's because I was twenty-one years old when those towers crumbled and the attacks have remained the formative event of my generation.

I can see now that knowledge must be transmitted from each generation to the next. To my yet unborn children 9/11 will be ancient history, something like the Kennedy Assassination is to me.

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MSNBC's Krystal Ball: Animal Farm Was an Anti-Capitalism Parable

Thus completely missing the point.

Orwell was a brilliant man, and he struggled to reconcile his wish for a certain type of world with his knowledge that such a world could probably never come to be as he wished it. Much of his writing was devoted to the horrors of failed attempts to achieve that world.

Animal Farm is a critique of Stalinism/Communism, and although capitalism as an exploitative system plays a role at the beginning of the book, by the end the astute reader sees Communism as at least as bad or even worse. Orwell was also aware of the strong possibility that liberty and socialism of any sort (not just Communist Stalinism) could not be reconciled, as the above quotes from him indicate. It is my opinion that Orwell came very close to understanding that his vision of a planned economy plus freedom could not come to pass, that the contradiction was basic, and that socialism would always sow the seeds of its own destruction. I just think he couldn't fully face and embrace that knowledge because to do so would have meant renouncing a lifelong dream. So he clung to some notion of a kinder gentler socialism without the totalitarianism, while at the same time he wrote tirelessly about the evils of Communism.

The European Anti-Democratic Spirit: 'Imperfect EU Better Than Revolting Nationalism'

20% of American Families Do Not Have a Single Person in the Household Who is Employed

Bring Me One of the Orphan Children

For I need replenishment of my life force.

Giving old mice blood from young ones makes them smarter and improves such functions as exercise capacity, according to reports from two research teams that point to new ways to study and potentially treat diseases of aging. In one study, researchers at Stanford University and the University of California, San Francisco found that blood transfusions from young mice reversed cognitive effects of aging, improving the old mice's memory and learning ability. The report was published Sunday in the journal Nature Medicine. Two other reports appearing in Science from researchers at Harvard University found that exposing old mice to a protein present at high levels in the blood of young mice and people improved both brain and exercise capability. An earlier report by some of the same researchers linked injections of the protein to reversal of the effects of aging on the heart. ... What isn't known from all this research, said Buck Institute's Dr. [Brian] Kennedy, is whether young blood might also increase the life span of mice and, if so, what such implications for humans might be.

You Think You Had a Bad Monday...

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Robocop: The Almost Perfectly Symmetrical Film

The Old Testament is full of examples of chiasmus, which is a figure of speech used in ancient times to emphasize balance. It lists a bunch of ideas or things and then repeats each of them in reverse order. It's often not an identical repetition. It frequently uses the opposite of what came before or something similar to it.

...Why am I giving a grammar lesson? Because I've noticed this same pattern used in films - a Cinematic Chiasmus, if you will. That shouldn't be too surprising. Good storytelling involves setting up ideas and then paying them off over the course of the story. But some films have second halves that so closely mirror their first halves that it makes them truly breathtaking to behold once you notice their chiasmus at work.

RoboCop (1987) is the first film I reviewed on this website, so it's fitting that it should be the first that I talk about here. Get ready to see how RoboCop is an almost perfectly symmetrical film.

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The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Tra la la la.

And my twitter thang.

Tonight's post brought to you by Clint:

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1 California Poised to Punish the Successful A proposed bill, SB1372, in the California Legislature, would punish profitable publicly traded firms that make enough money to pay their CEO the large salary they think he is worth by hiking the businesses taxes from 8.8% to as high as 13%. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=5641

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 05, 2014 06:45 PM (K1sEu)

2 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 06:47 PM (T1005)

3 Dude !

Posted by: mccool at May 05, 2014 06:48 PM (vxCAi)

4 Yes, I'm going to continue to fanboi 24 here. Anybody else watch tonight?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 06:49 PM (GEICT)

5 Evening all.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 06:49 PM (ojnk6)

6 made it under the wire. hello all.

Posted by: Guido at May 05, 2014 06:50 PM (GYg/s)

7 BC your daughters are gorgeous. No wonder you posed with them and a fun. lol.

Posted by: Guido at May 05, 2014 06:51 PM (GYg/s)

8 Welcome back, funseekers.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at May 05, 2014 06:51 PM (+1T7c)

9 gun BC. Shit.

Posted by: Guido at May 05, 2014 06:52 PM (GYg/s)

10 Biden vs. Cankles. Shovelfight. Discuss.

Posted by: Jaws at May 05, 2014 06:52 PM (Rbtz3)

11 Greetings and good night, oh Horde of Glory. Try to keep everything at least passably legal.

Posted by: joncelli at May 05, 2014 06:53 PM (/AYWV)

12 Ha! Thanks Guido. They're bigger and, dear Lord help me, cuter now. That pic on twitter is from a couple of thanksgivings ago.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 06:53 PM (GEICT)

13 Biden vs. Cankles. Shovelfight. Discuss. Posted by: Jaws Well, that's calling a spade a spade. Wait. Is that racist?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at May 05, 2014 06:54 PM (+1T7c)

14 Run Plugs Run!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 06:54 PM (mn8eY)

15 Liberals love Moslems because Moslems did what Liberals always wanted to do:  punch the US in the face and get away with it.  So naturally they are going to be portrayed as heroes by the Democrats.  Democrats hate America; Moslems hate America; they are natural partners.

And if Hillary decides to run in 2016, Joe Biden will be astonished by how quickly the Media will turn on him.  He'll never survive.

Posted by: Null at May 05, 2014 06:55 PM (xjpRj)

16 That's a crapload of Joe Biden all in one little space.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2014 06:55 PM (DmNpO)

17 Internet traffic must be falling off. All the web sites I visit seem intent on stirring up their audience. Obama's propaganda machine appears to be increasing the intensity of their product almost as if they are trying to lay the psychological foundation for direct action against Obama's political opposition.

Posted by: Ordinary Average Guy at May 05, 2014 06:55 PM (8OGiZ)

18 For I need replenishment of my life force. Elizabeth Batory. Paging Countess Elizabeth Batory. Please pick up the white courtesy telephone.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 05, 2014 06:56 PM (cHwSy)

19 16 That's a crapload of Joe Biden all in one little space. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2014 10:55 PM (DmNpO) His underwear?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 06:56 PM (GEICT)

20 Censorship!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 05, 2014 06:56 PM (Dj5/i)

21 I'm still on older thread! Hello!

Posted by: Carol at May 05, 2014 06:56 PM (gjOCp)

22 So Clint always liked wearing pants that came up to his chest.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 05, 2014 06:56 PM (IV4od)

23 Biden vs Cankles: two blind mice.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 06:56 PM (Q8vlx)

24 For I need replenishment of my life force. Elizabeth Batory. Paging Countess Elizabeth Batory. Please pick up the white courtesy telephone. Posted by: Fox2! at May 05, 2014 10:56 PM (cHwSy) This is where we come in!

Posted by: NARAL at May 05, 2014 06:57 PM (K1sEu)

25

I hope president Obama runs again because we need him to help us through this bad economy that Bush created.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at May 05, 2014 06:57 PM (wr9Qv)

26 22 Those pants are the Fred Mertz style I believe. They were the bomb back in the day.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 06:57 PM (Q8vlx)

27 And if Hillary decides to run in 2016, Joe Biden will be astonished by how quickly the Media will turn on him. He'll never survive. Posted by: Null Hillary! is running. Who will Obama endorse? Fore!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at May 05, 2014 06:58 PM (+1T7c)

28

Oooooh, sweet mystery of life at last I've found you! At last, I know the secret of it all!

Posted by: Lysa Baelish, née Tully

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 05, 2014 06:58 PM (kdS6q)

29 Hello, ONT Helper.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 06:58 PM (li3H9)

30 Do those Chocolate bullets come in Hydra-Shok?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 06:59 PM (LJ7Ze)

31 California Poised to Punish the Successful I guess I'd better buy some land in Texas before I can't afford it when the new transfers start driving up property values.

Posted by: no good deed at May 05, 2014 06:59 PM (ILBCY)

32 "So Clint always liked wearing pants that came up to his chest." Admittedly, wearing your pants up to your nipples was the style back in the day.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:00 PM (li3H9)

33 33 When people wore overalls?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 07:01 PM (LJ7Ze)

34 I prefer chocolate slugs to chocolate #4 buckshot when I shoot wildly through the front door.

Posted by: shredded chi at May 05, 2014 07:02 PM (RfLFX)

35 Here's an ONT Compliance Thread Blitz Maria Molina Monday pic.twitter.com/f6Rp4Chhg0 Feliz Cinco de Maria pic.twitter.com/srpgfAoFSL "You can't put it on the internet if it isn't true" pic.twitter.com/mZBsn2yShP She seems nice pic.twitter.com/5swTEeWWRV Overheated pic.twitter.com/lGgE9SRADM

Posted by: kbdabear at May 05, 2014 07:02 PM (aTXUx)

36 "When people wore overalls?" Something like that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:02 PM (li3H9)

37 I guess I'd better buy some land in Texas before I can't afford it when the new transfers start driving up property values. Posted by: no good deed at May 05, 2014 10:59 PM (ILBCY) ******* Best start in outlying areas from major cities. Major ones have already been infested by the Lib locusts, and they are changing things back to that which they ran away from as fast as they can.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 07:02 PM (ojnk6)

38 Lysa Baelish, née Tully Any relation to the Dr. Tully who was KIA in Korea? Jumped with his medical bag, plasma, etc, everything a Dr. would need at an aid station. Except for a parachute. Left his accrued pay to the orphanage, IIRC. (/MASH)

Posted by: Fox2! at May 05, 2014 07:02 PM (cHwSy)

39

That Monday bit made me Sikh to my stomach.

 

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 05, 2014 07:03 PM (vvk2F)

40 Dude, that was Sikh.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 07:03 PM (LJ7Ze)

41 >>And if Hillary decides to run in 2016, Joe Biden will be astonished by how quickly the Media will turn on him. He'll never survive. The media? He would be well advised to avoid late night walks in the park.

Posted by: Aviator at May 05, 2014 07:03 PM (3rrMW)

42 Biden vs. Cankles. Shovelfight. Discuss. I GOT $10 ON THE OLD, WRINKLED ONE TO WIIIN!!!

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2014 07:04 PM (BsFYx)

43 Admittedly, wearing your pants up to your nipples was the style back in the day. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 11:00 PM Zoot pants? That's before Clint's time.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2014 07:04 PM (EKOIc)

44 Regarding our discussion of household cleaning tips last night: I said I would report back on how well Magic Eraser did on cleaning the louvered closet door slats. Well, it did a great job! The closet doors in the house are stained wood, and kind of rough. Dust really sticks. Previous attempts to clean them have been very time-consuming and ineffective no matter what I did. The Magic Eraser got most of it on first swipe! I will go over it all later with a damp cloth, because the eraser -which wears away as you use it - left some little parts of itself behind in a few of the rougher areas. I used rubber gloves for this task. So my problem is solved! End of report.

Posted by: Alana at May 05, 2014 07:04 PM (cgxaa)

45 ONT Compliance Pic Blitz Part 2 "I've got a 34 Wagon and I call it a Woody" pic.twitter.com/nbrvyhhvaR Quit your cryin', Pajama Boys! pic.twitter.com/kQl6jyWuQu This is inspiring me to write a Country song pic.twitter.com/pKOtR66YRk

Posted by: kbdabear at May 05, 2014 07:04 PM (aTXUx)

46 "I guess I'd better buy some land in Texas before I can't afford it when the new transfers start driving up property values. " What do you consider cheap for land?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:04 PM (li3H9)

47 Ont helper with new and improved barrel flavor!

Posted by: Hanoverfist at May 05, 2014 07:04 PM (fU1ci)

48 hi all
man sometimes I think I must have that stupid disease

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:04 PM (9GG/0)

49 I GOT $10 ON THE OLD, WRINKLED ONE TO WIIIN!!!

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2014 11:04 PM (BsFYx)



Joe, Hill, call me for botox recommendations!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at May 05, 2014 07:05 PM (MpP9p)

50 jeez, Clint actually looks borderline crappy in that pic.  was that the intent?

Posted by: Peaches at May 05, 2014 07:05 PM (8lmkt)

51 yeah I think I will pick up some Magic Erasers next time I am at Sam's

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:05 PM (9GG/0)

52 "Zoot pants? That's before Clint's time." I guess Clint forgot.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:05 PM (li3H9)

53 Of course Joe's going to run. He's probably the smartest man in the White House.

Posted by: Socratease at May 05, 2014 07:05 PM (2GbWn)

54 This is awful and I shouldn't admit to it but I'm going to anyway. Just now I had the sudden realization that with this new job that, yes, I will need to get out of bed again tomorrow morning too.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2014 07:06 PM (DmNpO)

55 Do Texas' usurious Property Taxes extend to land?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 07:06 PM (LJ7Ze)

56 Alright Horde, pardon me for a few. I'm thinking I need one more shot to put me in the actually drunk category. Plus I promised the wife I'd clean up the kitchen.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 07:06 PM (GEICT)

57 ONT helper, now with 20% more alcohol

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:07 PM (9GG/0)

58  hi all
man sometimes I think I must have that stupid disease

 

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 11:04 PM

 

 

Not me. I'm still smrat.

Posted by: otho at May 05, 2014 07:07 PM (Ci6bl)

59 hey NDH you are gainfully employed again?  that is good, congratulations

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:07 PM (9GG/0)

60 12 Ha! Thanks Guido. They're bigger and, dear Lord help me, cuter now. That pic on twitter is from a couple of thanksgivings ago. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 10:53 PM (GEICT) Well just keep taking photos with guns. lol. and bulking up so when you answer the door for their little 'boy friends' they are scared shitless. BTW your wife must be georgeous...no offense.

Posted by: Guido at May 05, 2014 07:07 PM (GYg/s)

61 Great, I'm going to take the lead out of some bullets and reload them with chocolate, load my gun and shoot it into my mouth for the ultimate chocolate experience.  Chocolate entering my mouth faster than the speed of sound, what could be better than that?

Thanks Kid,
Thanks Joe

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 05, 2014 07:07 PM (z+4T3)

62 NDH Good Luck with the new job. Daughter started her new job today.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 07:08 PM (Q8vlx)

63 57 Alright Horde, pardon me for a few.

I'm thinking I need one more shot to put me in the actually drunk category.

Plus I promised the wife I'd clean up the kitchen.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 11:06 PM (GEICT)


grab a cold one and get your ass back here

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:08 PM (9GG/0)

64 >>Do Texas' usurious Property Taxes extend to land? Yes They don't have state income tax. The government will always get money out of you one way or another.

Posted by: Aviator at May 05, 2014 07:08 PM (3rrMW)

65 thanks, folks.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2014 07:09 PM (DmNpO)

66 Well due to internet issues tonight all you get is ONT helper. And ONT helper does just fine by itself. Maet Next time add water makes it's own sauce

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2014 07:09 PM (kQj83)

67 I am thinking that a compacted pellet of chocolate fired at approximately 800 m/s is still gonna be really painful

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:09 PM (9GG/0)

68 51 jeez, Clint actually looks borderline crappy in that pic. was that the intent? Posted by: Peaches at May 05, 2014 11:05 PM IIRC, he didn't get much work in Horryworld and perfected the spaghetti western genre. Wasn't that where he made his money?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2014 07:09 PM (EKOIc)

69 Alright Horde, pardon me for a few.



I'm thinking I need one more shot to put me in the actually drunk category.



Plus I promised the wife I'd clean up the kitchen.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 11:06 PM (GEICT)




CtKUI.  (Cleaning the Kitchen While Intoxicated)

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at May 05, 2014 07:10 PM (MpP9p)

70 My life coach said that not finishing things leads to unhappiness. So I looked around to see what I had not finished. Sure enough, I found that I had not finished off the gin, the brandy, the bourbon, the scotch. Now I feel much better.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 07:10 PM (JgC5a)

71 hiya Peaches

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:10 PM (9GG/0)

72 Congrats.. NDH..Good Luck

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 05, 2014 07:10 PM (Q4U+O)

73 Candy Corn would have been a better choice since it isn't useful as candy. Or maybe those candied apples with the razor blades.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 07:10 PM (LJ7Ze)

74 My now-discarded sock can clean the kitchen with Cochran.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 07:10 PM (MpP9p)

75 Those pants Clint is wearing remind me of bachelor farmer pants. They go up to the armpits and have a yard-long zipper.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 05, 2014 07:10 PM (shNkh)

76 thanks, folks.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2014 11:09 PM (DmNpO)


srsly, you got it??  I have wanted to ask, but didn't want to seem like I was nagging.  YAY!!!!!!  Congrats, they are soooo lucky!

Posted by: Peaches at May 05, 2014 07:10 PM (8lmkt)

77 CtKUI. (Cleaning the Kitchen While Intoxicated)

in a little bit I will be FTLWI (folding the laundry while intoxicated)

won't be surprised if the undies wind up in the sock drawer

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:10 PM (9GG/0)

78 What do you consider cheap for land? Out where my parents live, land is selling for $5000 an acre. Get five acres and you can apply for a farm/ranchland tax break. The property tax rate isn't bad at all where they are. I lived in San Angelo and paid three times what they pay. I had a .25 acre lot with a home that had 400 sq. ft. less than what they have on a 4 acre lot.

Posted by: no good deed at May 05, 2014 07:11 PM (ILBCY)

79 The shovelled chick was pretty good looking.

And I think it was Major Tuttle [sp?] not Tully.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at May 05, 2014 07:11 PM (dUZwp)

80 jeez, Clint actually looks borderline crappy in that pic. was that the intent? Posted by: Peaches Intent's got nuthin' to do with it...

Posted by: William Munny, Unforgiven for bad trousers at May 05, 2014 07:11 PM (+1T7c)

81 " Wasn't that where he made his money? " Some money but I don't think Leone was paying those kind of bucks. He made some grip on "Rawhide," did spaghettis, and, then went on to regular movies.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:11 PM (li3H9)

82 IIRC, he didn't get much work in Horryworld and perfected the spaghetti western genre. Wasn't that where he made his money?
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 05, 2014 11:09 PM (EKOIc)

The early to mid 60s were lean times for Clint. I'm guessing the pic is probably from that period.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 05, 2014 07:11 PM (pAlYe)

83 maybe firing off bullets made of Peeps? those would probably be harmless

'course, you'd still get raped and mugged by the attacker, but hey, no bullets

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:11 PM (9GG/0)

84 Of course Joe's going to run. He's probably the smartest man in the White House.
You're right about that. And Obama hasn't had X number of ministrokes to account for his mental acuity.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at May 05, 2014 07:12 PM (dUZwp)

85 4 Yes, I'm going to continue to fanboi 24 here. Anybody else watch tonight? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 10:49 PM (GEICT) Damn right I did Hey NDH woot on the gig

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2014 07:12 PM (kQj83)

86 $5000 an acre??? whoa

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:13 PM (9GG/0)

87 Clint made money installing swimming pools at one time. Damn hard work.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 07:13 PM (JgC5a)

88 in a little bit I will be FTLWI (folding the laundry while intoxicated)

won't be surprised if the undies wind up in the sock drawer

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 11:10 PM (9GG/0)



Just don't iron.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 07:13 PM (MpP9p)

89 srsly, you got it?? I have wanted to ask, but didn't want to seem like I was nagging. YAY!!!!!! Congrats, they are soooo lucky! *** Nope. I didn't get the-job-for-which-I-interviewed-but-did-not-ask-for, which was kind of a relief. They did, however, sign me to a short-term contract so, for now, I'm covered. It's a ton less responsibility and the pay is better than I had a right to expect.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2014 07:13 PM (DmNpO)

90 I love the pics where the impulse to help the person in obvious need of it takes a back seat to the inclination to take a picture.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 05, 2014 07:13 PM (HLprW)

91 oh no worries, I won't be ironing tonight

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:13 PM (9GG/0)

92 I think Eatwood bombed out of College.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 07:14 PM (LJ7Ze)

93 maybe I should move to Texas, my sister already lives there

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:14 PM (9GG/0)

94 I'm in Waterton Park!! Anyone else watched/is watching the new 24 series? Not bad so far, and it's nice to see Benjamin Bratt back on TV.

Posted by: logprof at May 05, 2014 07:14 PM (un0yB)

95 In news of the dumb, WWE has a new bad guy. Alexander Rusev, the Bulgarian Brute. Rusev is always introduced by his Russian valet, Lana. Since Ukraine went hot, Lana now opens be first praising the only man stronger and more powerful than Rusev -- Vladimir Putin. They put Putin's shining face on the jumbotron. Tonight she bragged about how all the stupid Americans were pawns in Putin's game, but don't worry, now that they had Snowden, all of your American secrets were safe with Mother Russia. Dumb fun.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2014 07:15 PM (ZPrif)

96 Clint would look good in Depends and an Afro and nothing else.
 
Injecting young blood into Biden would bring him up to idiot level.
 
The new Robocop is pretty decent as a flick -- don't judge me, I saw it for free.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 07:15 PM (wNF3N)

97 Clint borrowed his pants from his grandpa, by the looks of things.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 05, 2014 07:15 PM (QJurF)

98 And I think it was Major Tuttle [sp?] not Tully.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 05, 2014 11:11 PM (dUZwp)



It was Captain Tuttle.  Tuttle was Hawkeye's imaginary friend from childhood who became a Captain when needed.  From memory:  Auburn hair, hazel eyes, medical degree from some school in Berlin, and Hot Lips was in lust.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 07:15 PM (MpP9p)

99 Texas has no income taxes but high property taxes. Their high sales taxes are becoming the norm most places.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 07:16 PM (LJ7Ze)

100 "Out where my parents live, land is selling for $5000 an acre" Average ranch land 100 miles west of DFW is $2500-3000 an acre. Taxes are nothing. Here in DFW undeveloped land going $15k/acre or more. Pay $1k taxes a year for an acre with a house on it here in town. All with water and light and all that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:16 PM (li3H9)

101 NDH congrats on the job.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at May 05, 2014 07:16 PM (fU1ci)

102 Clint borrowed his pants from his grandpa, by the looks of things. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 05, 2014 11:15 PM (QJurF) ******** Clint is 80+. He's earned the right to look like Grandpa.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 07:17 PM (ojnk6)

103 It's rural where my parents are, chemjeff. The town has only 2100 people, but people keep running north from the shit town 25 miles south of them. When my uncle bought they property, it was $700 an acre. That was 19 years ago though.

Posted by: no good deed at May 05, 2014 07:17 PM (ILBCY)

104 goodnight

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 05, 2014 07:17 PM (DmNpO)

105 Clint is 80+. He's earned the right to look like Grandpa. Posted by: ManWithNoParty A man's got to know his limitations....

Posted by: Harry Callahan, SF Police Inspector at May 05, 2014 07:18 PM (+1T7c)

106

If enough of you choose to move to Texas, we should all buy unincorporated land about, oh, fifty miles out of Houston or D/FW.....   and incorporate as Moronoville, or the like.

 

 

First rule of Moronoville?  Y'don't talk 'bout Moronoville.

 

 

Second rule, is the Second Amendment.  Must be present, show I.D., and be suitably armed in order to vote.

 

 

Yeah, I'd move to live there amongst the Horde.

 

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 05, 2014 07:18 PM (vvk2F)

107 Good Night, Horde.

Posted by: Carol at May 05, 2014 07:19 PM (gjOCp)

108 Good night, NDH!

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 07:19 PM (MpP9p)

109 It's Cinqo de cinqo.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 07:19 PM (LJ7Ze)

110 Every acre in Harrison County, MS is assessed at $8k per acre. So enjoy your cheap ass land if you've got it, Texas.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 07:20 PM (wNF3N)

111 Congrats NDH!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 05, 2014 07:20 PM (HLprW)

112 Good night, Carol!

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 07:20 PM (MpP9p)

113 107
If enough of you choose to move to Texas, we should all buy unincorporated land about, oh, fifty miles out of Houston or D/FW..... and incorporate as Moronoville, or the like.


First rule of Moronoville? Y'don't talk 'bout Moronoville.


Second rule, is the Second Amendment. Must be present, show I.D., and be suitably armed in order to vote.


Yeah, I'd move to live there amongst the Horde.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at May 05, 2014 11:18 PM (vvk2F) Hide posts from (vvk2F)


"Little Peruvia".

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 07:20 PM (T1005)

114 Watching right now (CA time) Love. It. Trust me.

Posted by: joanne at May 05, 2014 07:20 PM (s/quq)

115 Been looking at some land way out west. $250/acre and $90/year taxes. No water. No electricity. But, do whatever the Hell you want on it and ain't nobody gonna say shit about it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:21 PM (li3H9)

116 Clint. In Mom Jeans. Cooking. I hope it's dog.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at May 05, 2014 07:21 PM (MAPzJ)

117 I love the pics where the impulse to help the person in obvious need of it takes a back seat to the inclination to take a picture.
Or laughing while your sister with the broken arm gets her thumb bitten by a Democrat donkey.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at May 05, 2014 07:22 PM (dUZwp)

118 >>>116 Been looking at some land way out west. $250/acre and $90/year taxes. No water. No electricity. But, do whatever the Hell you want on it and ain't nobody gonna say shit about it. ------------ But can you club the seals?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 05, 2014 07:22 PM (QJurF)

119 Night NDH

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 07:23 PM (Q8vlx)

120 Hey hey everybody. Given it's Cindo de Mayo, I'm surprised the ONT isn't all about immigration.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 07:23 PM (HVI5a)

121 Peruvian, 116, stakes claim to oldest-woman crown. http://tinyurl.com/o83enfb

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 07:23 PM (LJ7Ze)

122 Damn, Chloe got fucked up.

Posted by: logprof, trying to avoid spoilers at May 05, 2014 07:23 PM (un0yB)

123

Congrats and g'nite, NDH!

 

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 05, 2014 07:23 PM (vvk2F)

124 Clint. In Mom Jeans. Cooking. I hope it's dog. Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama Yeah, well your mouthwash just ain't makin' it!

Posted by: Harry Callahan, SF Police Inspector at May 05, 2014 07:23 PM (+1T7c)

125 Congrats NDH & Good Luck! Good Night, Vendette.

Posted by: Carol at May 05, 2014 07:24 PM (gjOCp)

126 Night Carol

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 07:24 PM (Q8vlx)

127 I always thought The Deer Hunter was symmetrical. Starts in a church, ends in a church. Deer hunt at the beginning, deer hunt at the end. 2 trips to Vietnam. etc.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 05, 2014 07:24 PM (HubSo)

128 Given it's Cindo de Mayo, I'm surprised the ONT isn't all about immigration.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 11:23 PM (HVI5a)



The Mexicans defeated the French in order to give Americans a chance to drink cheap, watered-down margaritas.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 07:24 PM (MpP9p)

129 "But can you club the seals?" I can club whatever the fuck I want to club for that. I can shoot it. Flambe it. Hang it on my wall if I like.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:24 PM (li3H9)

130 Nothin' like a good old fashioned spade fight.

Posted by: Donald Sterling at May 05, 2014 07:24 PM (MAPzJ)

131 Utilities are kind of important.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 07:25 PM (LJ7Ze)

132 that chive article is rather sad though.
feel bad for the indian guy. how can a vacuum cleaner get stuck in an elevator door?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:25 PM (9GG/0)

133 I visited a pal in the Sierra foothill country last weekend. Real pretty country there. He is a real survivalist. House on top of a mountain. Private road. House made of concrete and sheet and glass. Nothing to burn. He has 30 acres but most of it is on a steep incline. Nothing growing up there. No decorative plants whatsoever. No tomatoes or squash. It was kind of stark. I could not say that I would enjoy living up there.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 07:26 PM (JgC5a)

134
That Orwell article reminded me that Romneycare died today.  Socialism always fails.  All of those problems will be repeated with obamacare.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 05, 2014 07:27 PM (hJauc)

135 >>>Utilities are kind of important. Water is important. All a man needs is water and a little topography and he can make do. Utilities are nice, though.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2014 07:27 PM (MAPzJ)

136 Caesar North: great, now I have to watch Robocop *and* The Deer Hunter again. ;-) OTOH, now that I think about it, maybe that's not so much of a burden.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 07:27 PM (HVI5a)

137 This evening I began watching a series about WW1 and they had some prewar footage of a German warship deck and an officer was bending over petting the (I assume) ship's mascot dachshund whose tail was wagging a mile a minute and he jumped up the officer's body the once he was so happy. (And, no, morons, not 'humping' just 'jumping'.) I hope they didn't end up eating the dog in 1918.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at May 05, 2014 07:28 PM (dUZwp)

138 Last one from me, Good Night Chavez The Hugo. I have been up since before 4 am.

Posted by: Carol at May 05, 2014 07:28 PM (gjOCp)

139 Even out in BFE here there is no cheap land.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 07:28 PM (LJ7Ze)

140 Ok, I'm back. First and foremostÂ….CONGRATS NDH! We've got to get together again at some point. AndÂ… Well just keep taking photos with guns. lol. and bulking up so when you answer the door for their little 'boy friends' they are scared shitless. BTW your wife must be georgeous...no offense. Posted by: Guido at May 05, 2014 11:07 PM (GYg/s) She is. But don't phrase it like that around her. She gets really pissed. "I didn't marry some ugly guy! I didn't marry down!" For those curiousÂ…..http://tinyurl.com/mbyqwdp

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 07:28 PM (GEICT)

141 "Utilities are kind of important." Well, depends on what you think of "utilities." Got a well? Covered. People are doing okay with local wind/solar and generators. I have a septic system and it's a breeze if you take care of it. Satellite TV and internet.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:29 PM (li3H9)

142 I know there's been a lot of talk about the Vegas meetup, but what I *really* wish was do-able is/was an AceHQ Movie Club where we could somehow get together and all watch the same movie together. I personally would love to start by having a Kubrick film festival. Every Sunday night we'd watch one of his films, going from his short union documentary "The Seafarers" and "Fear and Desire" (1953, and the only film he ever shot in California) to "Eyes Wide Shut" (199 and maybe even some of the Kubrick-related follow-ups, "Color Me Kubrick" and "Room 237."

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 07:29 PM (HVI5a)

143 Vendette: right, and then the French showed up a year later and mopped up what they left behind. How long ago was it and/or horrible of an army must you have to get beaten by the *French*?????

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 07:30 PM (HVI5a)

144 133 that chive article is rather sad though.
feel bad for the indian guy. how can a vacuum cleaner get stuck in an elevator door?
Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 11:25 PM (9GG/0) Hide posts from (9GG/0)



Elevators have doors on the elevator and doors at each floor that open simultaneously when the elevator is at a floor. My guess is that while the doors were open, the cord for the vacuum fell into the elevator and when the doors closed the plug was inside the elevator. When the elevator (with plug) tried to go to the fifth floor, the vacuum (still on the first floor) tried to go with it.



Question is, what happened to the elevator when the vacuum hit the ceiling? Did it stop, pull the plug off the cord, or yank the doors off the elevator?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 07:31 PM (T1005)

145 Vegas meetup Halloween weekend. Great time to be in Vegas. Party every night and the NHRA too. Good times.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 07:31 PM (Q8vlx)

146 The first rule about AceHQ Movie Club is that you don't talk about AceHQ Movie Club.

(And in the end it turns out to be one guy fapping in his garage to Japanese comic-books.)

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at May 05, 2014 07:32 PM (dUZwp)

147 Clinto de Mayo...pretty sure he could still kick most of our asses

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at May 05, 2014 07:32 PM (M+evy)

148 Good land has all been bought up by now. Heck, Ted Turner alone has bought most of it all by himself.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 07:32 PM (JgC5a)

149 wait, the vegas moron meetup is going to be this halloween? is that right?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:33 PM (9GG/0)

150 It's a wonder that Clint Eastwood survived that choke hold by his pants.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 07:33 PM (JmGFJ)

151 Good land has all been bought up by now. Nonsense. There's always a ton of good land popping up on the market.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2014 07:33 PM (MAPzJ)

152 If you like your head coach job, you can keep your head coach job: TFG's BiL fired at Oregon State.



http://tinyurl.com/khvbbqe

Posted by: Country Singer at May 05, 2014 07:34 PM (KNXgp)

153 Chemjeff I hope so I'll be there either way.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 07:34 PM (Q8vlx)

154 chemjeff: Vegas, the Rio, in late July. I think I forgot the actual dates. 18-20????

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 07:34 PM (HVI5a)

155 chemjeff: Vegas, the Rio, in late July.

I think I forgot the actual dates. 18-20????

Seriously?  For reals?  man I am so going

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:35 PM (9GG/0)

156 Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 11:15 PM (MpP9p) You are, of course, correct. Brain burp.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 05, 2014 07:35 PM (cHwSy)

157 Late July? Too fuckin hot man.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 07:35 PM (Q8vlx)

158 If you like your head coach job, you can keep your head coach job: TFG's BiL fired at Oregon State. In related news, the Dept of Education just announced that Oregon State has just today officially lost all of its Federal funding, and all of its credentials. Also, they're going to tear it down, pave it over and put up a Walmart.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 07:36 PM (HVI5a)

159 Whew, Vegas in July? Bring extra anti-perspirant.

Posted by: no good deed at May 05, 2014 07:36 PM (ILBCY)

160 143 I know there's been a lot of talk about the Vegas meetup, but what I *really* wish was do-able is/was an AceHQ Movie Club where we could somehow get together and all watch the same movie together. ------------ You want Stanley Kubrick. You'd take Harold Ramis. You'll get Pauly Shore.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 05, 2014 07:36 PM (QJurF)

161 "Good land has all been bought up by now. Heck, Ted Turner alone has bought most of it all by himself." Good cheap land? True. Any piece of land on a waterway or that receives X amount of moisture per year or that is in any way commercially viable, yes. If it's green for three months out of the year it's going to cost you.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:36 PM (li3H9)

162 chemjeff, I believe Yankeefifth was the guy who put together the details.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 07:37 PM (HVI5a)

163 Clint Baby s welcome to my ass anytime.

Posted by: Alana at May 05, 2014 07:37 PM (cgxaa)

164 Cicero: how about Whoopi Goldberg?? (ducks)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 07:38 PM (HVI5a)

165 For all we know, that could be Clint at his folks place after they moved from the Bay Area up to Seattle around the late '40s early '50s. Clint stayed with them from time to time, even found work as a swim instructor and lifeguard- "I said no running on the dock, amigo!" I think it was after his time in the service and just before he moved to LA and was "discovered."

Posted by: Rex B at May 05, 2014 07:38 PM (OXzvH)

166 "Nonsense. There's always a ton of good land popping up on the market. " For the average middle class family wanting a piece of America, that's tough.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:39 PM (li3H9)

167 Desert land is cheap, yes. Lots of that on the market. Or land on a flood plain. Cheap, cheap.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 07:40 PM (JgC5a)

168 Whew, Vegas in July? Bring extra anti-perspirant. Skip the half-steps, just bring barbecue sauce to spread on your skin.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 05, 2014 07:40 PM (0AKks)

169 Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 11:15 PM (MpP9p)

You are, of course, correct. Brain burp.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 05, 2014 11:35 PM (cHwSy)



Captain Tuttle went to Berlinish Polyteshnikov (phonetics for the semi-win!).

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 07:40 PM (MpP9p)

170 We do all know that Clint knocked up like 4-5 women out of wedlock and tried to skip on a lot of them, right? I like Clint. Love his movies forever. But the guy was an ass-hound who could never keep his pecker in his pants.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:41 PM (li3H9)

171 "Desert land is cheap, yes. Lots of that on the market. Or land on a flood plain. Cheap, cheap." Exactly both, especially the desert part.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:42 PM (li3H9)

172 @171 - But the guy was an ass-hound who could never keep his pecker in his pants. And this is a bad thing, how?

Posted by: TiminAL at May 05, 2014 07:42 PM (A9c4d)

173 well there's a promo going at the Rio from July 18-20, $125 per night

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:42 PM (9GG/0)

174 Ass-Hounds wear pants?

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2014 07:43 PM (MAPzJ)

175 If Clint turned a bit we'd be able to see the onion hanging from his belt.

Posted by: Epobirs at May 05, 2014 07:43 PM (Icq+V)

176 Whew, Vegas in July? Bring extra anti-perspirant.

Posted by: no good deed at May 05, 2014 11:36 PM (ILBCY)



I visited Vegas as a kid.  We walked the Strip at midnight, and it was 109 degrees.  I was amazed.  I now understand that it was a dry heat.



Meanwhile, the Washington Nationals and the Dodgers are picking up in the 4th inning after 3 hour rain delay.  You can guess how many people are in the stands in DC.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 07:43 PM (MpP9p)

177 171 We do all know that Clint knocked up like 4-5 women out of wedlock and tried to skip on a lot of them, right? I like Clint. Love his movies forever. But the guy was an ass-hound who could never keep his pecker in his pants. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 11:41 PM (li3H9) Shameful.

Posted by: eman at May 05, 2014 07:43 PM (MQEz6)

178 "We do all know that Clint knocked up like 4-5 women out of wedlock and tried to skip on a lot of them, right?" Makes him no different than a lot of Hollywood characters.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 07:44 PM (JgC5a)

179 The Magic Eraser got most of it on first swipe! Â….. So my problem is solved! End of report. Posted by: Alana at May 05, 2014 11:04 PM (cgxaa) That thing is wonderful! I had horrible buildup on my kitchen vinyl floor that I couldn't remove with straight vinegar or any other cleaner. So I got a few of those magic erasers and they worked like a charm. Same with my fiberglass shower stall and grubby walls.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 05, 2014 07:45 PM (qKLjO)

180 We do all know that Clint knocked up like 4-5 women out of wedlock and tried to skip on a lot of them, right Woman : "Why didn't you pull out?!" Clint : "I felt lucky."

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2014 07:45 PM (MAPzJ)

181 I watched "The White Buffalo" last night. Strange flick.

Posted by: eman at May 05, 2014 07:46 PM (MQEz6)

182 We do all know that Clint knocked up like 4-5 women out of wedlock and tried to skip on a lot of them, right Except he had consensual sex with women.

Posted by: Pick a Corey at May 05, 2014 07:46 PM (MAPzJ)

183 178: God said " be fruitful and multiply" Clint took that shit serious man.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 07:46 PM (Q8vlx)

184 Clint : "I felt lucky."

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2014 11:45 PM (MAPzJ)



Wrong tense!

Posted by: Mary Chapin Carpenter at May 05, 2014 07:46 PM (MpP9p)

185 Let my pecker go.

Posted by: Moses Eastwood at May 05, 2014 07:46 PM (QJurF)

186 Someone brought up The Deer Hunter. Supposedly, Michael Cimino (TDH's director) got the gig after proving himself with Clint Eastwood and "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot" in 1976. According to legend, supposedly near the end of production, Eastwood asked Cimino "how much longer to shoot?" "About two weeks or so," said Cimino. Clint deadpanned back "you better be done in three days because that's when I'm going on vacation." And given that Eastwood had the clout in 1976 and Cimino had *none,* that's what he had to do. The film got done, got released, and was I guess a moderate hit (I actually have no idea personally). Anyway I guess it impressed Universal enough to let him do "The Deer Hunter"... which turned out to be a mistake as, just like on his later notorious "Heaven's Gate," Cimino just loved to take his sweet sweet time shooting and shooting and shooting some more, as well as going way over budget and spending money like water. Cimino probably should have been a senator instead of a filmmaker.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 07:46 PM (HVI5a)

187 What does it feel like to be stupid?

I just spent 10 minutes reading Daily Kos.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 05, 2014 07:47 PM (AC0lD)

188 "Makes him no different than a lot of Hollywood characters." Doesn't. But the guy weren't no rock-ribbed family man of virtue. He'll always be the much loved "Dirty Harry" to me but he was not the upstanding husband type.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:48 PM (li3H9)

189 We do all know that Clint knocked up like 4-5 women out of wedlock and tried to skip on a lot of them, right ))) You spelled Clinton wrong.

Posted by: Dendritic at May 05, 2014 07:48 PM (75hfB)

190 "Shameful." That he did that or that I brought it up? Just keeping score.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:49 PM (li3H9)

191 I hate to even infer this, but I know Clint. I mean, I really know him. He is a decent guy. Even told his kids to not go in to acting. These days he just wants to play piano. And he has done so, even recording some of his own credit tracks. When you are the director you get to do that.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 07:49 PM (JgC5a)

192 189 "Makes him no different than a lot of Hollywood characters."
Doesn't. But the guy weren't no rock-ribbed family man of virtue. He'll always be the much loved "Dirty Harry" to me but he was not the upstanding husband type.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 11:48 PM (li3H9)

So...what are your feelings on Dennis Hopper? :-)

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 05, 2014 07:49 PM (pAlYe)

193 191 "Shameful." That he did that or that I brought it up? Just keeping score. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 11:49 PM (li3H9) Neither.

Posted by: eman at May 05, 2014 07:50 PM (MQEz6)

194 "And this is a bad thing, how?" Just saying. Not judging. There was no judging in my post.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:50 PM (li3H9)

195 I've always suspected that stupid people have easier, happier lives.

Now I know.

/even more depressed, since Slo Uncle Joe and Preezy Branco Bama are both obviously much, MUCH happier than I am.

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at May 05, 2014 07:50 PM (25HWz)

196

Eastwood's an actor not a saint.

 

Now Dennis Hopper...there was a great man.

Posted by: buzzion at May 05, 2014 07:51 PM (LI48c)

197 Clint's Sansabelt slacks. Tres 60's chic.

Posted by: Tuna at May 05, 2014 07:52 PM (7KPIw)

198 So...what are your feelings on Dennis Hopper? :-) - Mætenloch SNL did a great opening sketch back in the 1980s when Hopper guest hosted, about how he supposedly literally had no memory of anything or anyone since 1970.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 07:52 PM (HVI5a)

199 "Woman : "Why didn't you pull out?!" Clint : "I felt lucky." Nice. Coincidentally, just the way Clint spent the 1960s and 1970s.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:52 PM (li3H9)

200 ... I know Clint. I mean, I really know him. He is a decent guy. Even told his kids to not go in to acting. These days he just wants to play piano. I know exactly how he feels.

Posted by: Babar at May 05, 2014 07:53 PM (MAPzJ)

201 Thunderbolt and Lightfoot))) I love the bunny scene in that movie.

Posted by: Dendritic at May 05, 2014 07:53 PM (75hfB)

202 So...what are your feelings on Dennis Hopper? :-) Posted by: Mætenloch at May 05, 2014 11:49 PM (pAlYe) Eastwood's an actor not a saint. Now Dennis Hopper...there was a great man. Posted by: buzzion at May 05, 2014 11:51 PM (LI48c) ****** Waiting for the Meat smackdown in 3...2...1...

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 07:54 PM (ojnk6)

203 When Clint yelled "Rawhide!" a gal new she was in for a stampede of a night.

Posted by: eman at May 05, 2014 07:54 PM (MQEz6)

204 No one is perfect. Had I had the opportunity or the means I also would have been the Johnny Appleseed of navybrats.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 07:55 PM (JgC5a)

205 Always a shame when new people are unaware of a meme.

Posted by: buzzion at May 05, 2014 07:55 PM (LI48c)

206 >>Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 11:55 PM (JgC5a) ------------ We missed you at the Number Six Dance.

Posted by: Taggart at May 05, 2014 07:56 PM (QJurF)

207 Waiting for the Meat smackdown in 3...2...1... Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 11:54 PM (ojnk6) ****** Maet. Sheesh.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 07:56 PM (ojnk6)

208 So far liking 24. Quibble: why are bad presidents all white on tv? Am I being too sensitive?

Posted by: mussolinis mom at May 05, 2014 07:56 PM (ZWaLo)

209 Am I being too sensitive?

Posted by: mussolinis mom at May 05, 2014 11:56 PM (ZWaLo)


umm.... no?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:57 PM (9GG/0)

210 207 Always a shame when new people are unaware of a meme. Posted by: buzzion at May 05, 2014 11:55 PM (LI48c) Yeah. May Hopper guide you, my son.

Posted by: eman at May 05, 2014 07:57 PM (MQEz6)

211 If ever I had a chance to pick an actor to have a beer or two with, it would be Clint.
 
PS -- How's that empty chair workin' out?

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 07:57 PM (wNF3N)

212 Shaneful.

Posted by: Pale Rider at May 05, 2014 07:57 PM (MAPzJ)

213 man I so want to do the moron meetup in vegas in july.
i just looked up frequent flyer mile options for flying out there, and it looks like i'll be able to get 2 first class tickets to go.
that would be awesome.
plus to meet ace and the rest of the morons.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:58 PM (9GG/0)

214 "Had I had the opportunity or the means I also would have been the Johnny Appleseed of navybrats." Again, not bagging the guy. Just saying. Had I wads of money to placate the various mommas, I guess it's okay. I dont', so I haven't.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 07:58 PM (li3H9)

215 yeah I don't understand the deal with Dennis Hopper, but eh

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 07:59 PM (9GG/0)

216 Good evening, Horde. I presented my very last paper for ths degree today.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at May 05, 2014 07:59 PM (N/cFh)

217 213 If ever I had a chance to pick an actor to have a beer or two with, it would be Clint. PS -- How's that empty chair workin' out? Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 11:57 PM (wNF3N Steve McQueen Course his being dead and all...

Posted by: eman at May 05, 2014 08:00 PM (MQEz6)

218 "We missed you at the Number Six Dance. Posted by: Taggart" FUCKING. AWESOME. :}

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 08:00 PM (li3H9)

219 No one is perfect.
Had I had the opportunity or the means I also would have been the Johnny Appleseed of navybrats.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 11:55 PM (JgC5a)



As long as you say "Beat Army!" you're fantastic.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:00 PM (MpP9p)

220 Good evening, Horde. I presented my very last paper for ths degree today.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at May 05, 2014 11:59 PM (N/cFh)



Congrats!  Typhus or the like, right?



How did the MD Sheep and Wool Festival go?

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:02 PM (MpP9p)

221 "Steve McQueen Course his being dead and all..." That guy. That Fucking Guy. He was a "bad boy" but more moral than Clint.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 05, 2014 08:02 PM (li3H9)

222 Whew, Vegas in July? Bring extra anti-perspirant. Posted by: no good deed at May 05, 2014 11:36 PM (ILBCY) You don't sweat in Vegas, since the humidity is non-existent. You spontaneously form salt-crustÂ…

Posted by: The Non-Humid Hat at May 05, 2014 08:02 PM (K1sEu)

223 congratulations Gingy!

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 08:03 PM (9GG/0)

224 Here's some more "thankfully we're in good hands" news: North Korea Nuke Threat Is Much Worse Than White House Admits: Report http://tinyurl.com/p6kgw6p This is a problem going back 3 Administrations, but it's getting worse by the year. A psychopathic nation that cannot feed itself but can make crude ICBMs?

Posted by: Thrawn at May 05, 2014 08:03 PM (WlWt+)

225 188 What does it feel like to be stupid?

I just spent 10 minutes reading Daily Kos.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 05, 2014 11:47 PM (AC0lD) Hide posts from (AC0lD)


That's not stupidity; it's masochism.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:03 PM (T1005)

226 Typhus, yes. Specifically, how typhus prevented Napoleon from taking over Russia in 1812. MDSW was fab. Spent a lot of time demonstrating sinning at my friend's booth.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at May 05, 2014 08:03 PM (N/cFh)

227 Wow. Who is the hottie filling in for R. Maddow?!?

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 08:03 PM (QeH9j)

228 I hate having to write cover letters. I mean, all I ought to have to do is point to my CV and reinforce the fact that I've done what I've done without killing myselfÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 05, 2014 08:03 PM (K1sEu)

229

Gingy.........I envy you your degree.

 

 

I majored in Remedial Procrastination.  Never finished.

 

 

With Honors.

 

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 05, 2014 08:03 PM (vvk2F)

230 219 More's the pity. I can see Clint and Steve playing old run down cowboys. Throw in Robert Duvall. Now that would be a movie I'd pay to see.

Posted by: Tuna at May 05, 2014 08:04 PM (7KPIw)

231 Who is the hottie filling in for R. Maddow?!? Posted by: RWC at May 06, 2014 12:03 AM (QeH9j) Her bondage slave?

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 05, 2014 08:04 PM (K1sEu)

232 Jim, don't. All I learned was how to play piano.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at May 05, 2014 08:04 PM (N/cFh)

233 Who is the hottie filling in for R. Maddow?!? Posted by: RWC at May 06, 2014 12:03 AM (QeH9j) ******* I will never have that network on my screen to find this out.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 08:05 PM (ojnk6)

234 Course his being dead and all... Posted by: eman More beer for you..

Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at May 05, 2014 08:06 PM (+1T7c)

235 233 Who is the hottie filling in for R. Maddow?!? Posted by: RWC at May 06, 2014 12:03 AM (QeH9j) Her bondage slave? Posted by: The Political Hat at May 06, 2014 12:04 AM (K1sEu) Pics?

Posted by: eman at May 05, 2014 08:06 PM (MQEz6)

236 If the Norks are going to hit the west coast with a nuke, now is the time to do it. I'm sure Obama has some Red Line or another that destroying Los Angeles would violate.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 05, 2014 08:06 PM (QJurF)

237 215 man I so want to do the moron meetup in vegas in july.
i just looked up frequent flyer mile options for flying out there, and it looks like i'll be able to get 2 first class tickets to go.
that would be awesome.
plus to meet ace and the rest of the morons.
Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 11:58 PM (9GG/0) Hide posts from (9GG/0)



You want to meet Ace.


You'd take meeting Gabe.


You'll get cthulhu.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:06 PM (T1005)

238 Go Navy! Beat Army!

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 08:06 PM (JgC5a)

239 Who is the hottie filling in for R. Maddow?!? Ronan Farrow?

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2014 08:07 PM (MAPzJ)

240 Go Navy!
Beat Army!

Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 12:06 AM (JgC5a)


And Air Force!!!!

Posted by: Vendette's SO is home in less than 24 hours!!!! at May 05, 2014 08:07 PM (MpP9p)

241 I've seen every movie Clint has been in, even the musicals (which I hate in general). There's one exception, Million Dollar Baby, which I bought the dvd for about 4 years ago and have never opened.
 
Why? It's the last dvd I bought. As long as I don't open it, it can be the coda of my dvd buying habit.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 08:07 PM (wNF3N)

242 Question for the HordeÂ…..I'm looking for some free software. Home building/planning type stuff. So far, the stuff I've found is really clunky and not easy to use. I know I'm hamstrung by saying "free", but there's got to be something halfway decent out there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 08:07 PM (GEICT)

243 If marriage was like sex everyone would love marriage. Amirite?

Posted by: eleven at May 05, 2014 08:08 PM (fsLdt)

244 I hate having to write cover letters. I mean, all I ought to have to do is point to my CV and reinforce the fact that I've done what I've done without killing myselfÂ… Posted by: The Political Hat at May 06, 2014 12:03 AM (K1sEu) ******** You too, huh? After a certain career point,, the resume/CV ought to speak for itself. Nope, gotta write a letter that encapsulates all that is in the very same resume.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 08:08 PM (ojnk6)

245 I want to thank president Obama for giving us the best healthcare system because that idiot Romney would have screwed it up just like Bush.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at May 05, 2014 08:08 PM (wr9Qv)

246 Clint has made some real superlative movies and some real stinkers. But he never stopped making them, whatever the outcome. And for that, he has my respect.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 08:09 PM (JgC5a)

247 Who is the hottie filling in for R. Maddow?!?

Chris Hayes?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 08:09 PM (9GG/0)

248 Reno cools off big time at night. There's too many Californians in Vegas.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 08:09 PM (LJ7Ze)

249 Spent a lot of time demonstrating sinning at my friend's booth. Posted by: Gingy ========= ? Uh..., expound, please.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 05, 2014 08:09 PM (aDwsi)

250 230 I hate having to write cover letters.

I mean, all I ought to have to do is point to my CV and reinforce the fact that I've done what I've done without killing myselfÂ… Posted by: The Political Hat at May 06, 2014 12:03 AM (K1sEu) Hide posts from (K1sEu)


You can go either of two directions. Either you can pick apart their stated job requirements and point to specific lines of your CV which illustrate how you meet those requirements.....


.....or, since nobody reads the f'in' things anyhow, you can write a totally generic one once and play "fill in the blank" with the target's name and contact person.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:09 PM (T1005)

251 You want to meet Ace.


You'd take meeting Gabe.


You'll get cthulhu.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 12:06 AM (T1005)


I haven't met Ace.


I drove Gabe home from the last NoVaMoMee (but not before taking AtC to her hotel).


I'd love to meet cthulhu.

Posted by: Vendette's SO is home in less than 24 hours!!!! at May 05, 2014 08:09 PM (MpP9p)

252 Uh. Spinning. Making yarn. Not sinning.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at May 05, 2014 08:10 PM (N/cFh)

253 This Kasie Hunt chick is showing me something.

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2014 08:10 PM (MAPzJ)

254 cthulhu I'd love to meet you at a moron meetup, along with Ace and Gabe and all the rest

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 08:11 PM (9GG/0)

255 Her bondage slave? Posted by: The Political Hat at May 06, 2014 12:04 AM (K1sEu) Pics? Posted by: eman at May 06, 2014 12:06 AM (MQEz6) You sure you want pics? I love how MSNBC goes for the disheveled look. Sleeves rolled up, top button unbuttoned. Fucker. Your hardest job today was 'what hipster douche frame' works with this outfit.

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 08:11 PM (QeH9j)

256 ? Uh..., expound, please.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 06, 2014 12:09 AM (aDwsi)



Spinning yarn.  She's a fantastic knitter.  Seriously, if you need anything knitted, she's your gal.

Posted by: Vendette's SO is home in less than 24 hours!!!! at May 05, 2014 08:11 PM (MpP9p)

257 >>>You'd take meeting Gabe. You'll get cthulhu. ----------- Could be worse. Imagine driving Mr. MooMoo home.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 05, 2014 08:11 PM (QJurF)

258 234 Jim, don't. All I learned was how to play piano. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at May 06, 2014 12:04 AM (N/cFh) Hide posts from (N/cFh)


I'm sure that you'd be the best feature of any saloon or gin joint you'd play in.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:12 PM (T1005)

259 My first priority is clearing dreadlocks for wear in the services.

Posted by: Chuck Hagel at May 05, 2014 08:12 PM (aDwsi)

260 I haven't seen oink oink around lately.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 08:12 PM (LJ7Ze)

261 255 This Kasie Hunt chick is showing me something. Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2014 12:10 AM (MAPzJ) Her linebacker neck and adams apple?

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 08:12 PM (QeH9j)

262 I'm sure that you'd be the best feature of any saloon or gin joint you'd play in.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 12:12 AM (T1005)



Plus she's a ginger.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:13 PM (MpP9p)

263 238 If the Norks are going to hit the west coast with a nuke, now is the time to do it. I'm sure Obama has some Red Line or another that destroying Los Angeles would violate. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2014 12:06 AM (QJurF) Even still, TFG wouldn't pull the nuclear trigger. The worse NK would get from Obama are moar sanctions. Oh, and here's a thought - if NK has the ability now to mate nuke with missiles, you can bet your devalued dollars that Iran has the same.

Posted by: Thrawn at May 05, 2014 08:13 PM (WlWt+)

264

Met Gabe in Houston.

 

Haven't met Ace.

 

Would settle for Cthulhu.

 

 

 


Jim
Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 05, 2014 08:13 PM (vvk2F)

265 Could be worse. Imagine driving Mr. MooMoo home. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2014 12:11 AM (QJurF) I'll give you 25k and a plot in Detroit for a ride home!

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 08:13 PM (QeH9j)

266 244 Question for the HordeÂ…..I'm looking for some free software. Home building/planning type stuff.

So far, the stuff I've found is really clunky and not easy to use.

I know I'm hamstrung by saying "free", but there's got to be something halfway decent out there. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 06, 2014 12:07 AM (GEICT) Hide posts from (GEICT)


Can you be a bit more precise on the "Home building/planning type stuff" front?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:14 PM (T1005)

267 Uh. Spinning. Making yarn. Not sinning. Posted by: Gingy --------------------- Crap. Sounded more interesting the other way. Not that spinning isn't fascinating...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 05, 2014 08:14 PM (aDwsi)

268 Just starting 24 now.  Mmmmmm Yvonne Strahovski.

Posted by: buzzion at May 05, 2014 08:14 PM (LI48c)

269 Is Norkia still on fire?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 08:15 PM (LJ7Ze)

270 Could be worse. Imagine driving Mr. MooMoo home.

yeah, I'd probably drive about a block and then kick him out at the next street corner

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 08:15 PM (9GG/0)

271 Posted by: Jim at May 06, 2014 12:13 AM (vvk2F)


No one settles for Cthulhu!!!! 

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:15 PM (MpP9p)

272 has yankeefifth convinced Ace to go this meetup in Vegas?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 08:16 PM (9GG/0)

273 Can you be a bit more precise on the "Home building/planning type stuff" front? Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 12:14 AM (T1005) I'm looking for something that will let me build from scratch. Input overall dimensions and then build the interior out from scratch. I'm just playing really. There are a couple abandoned/empty buildings here locally that would make awesome bugout/lockdown type facilities. I entertain myself by building them out in my head. It'd be nice to actually be able to see a visual representation of what I'm doing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 08:17 PM (GEICT)

274 Am thinking I could make the late July meetup, IF: - I stay with relatives in Parker AZ (still far away but overall an easier drive to/from Vegas), thus avoiding spending money for a hotel. - I rent a car and avoid eating out except for fast food and maybe *one* quickie trip to Margaritaville. - I get used to the idea of having only enough money to play poker somewhere for several hours during *one* day.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 08:17 PM (HVI5a)

275 Crap.
Sounded more interesting the other way. Not that spinning isn't fascinating...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 06, 2014 12:14 AM (aDwsi)



Weirddave will be along shortly to beat you to smithereens.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:17 PM (MpP9p)

276 qdpsteve, we'll play some blackjack and it will be fun

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 08:18 PM (9GG/0)

277 259 >>>You'd take meeting Gabe.


You'll get cthulhu.
-----------

Could be worse. Imagine driving Mr. MooMoo home. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 06, 2014 12:11 AM (QJurF) Hide posts from (QJurF)



Damn, I was trying to figure out who I'd indelibly mark as the "Kaboom!" of morons, and finally just used my own nic.....and it was so obvious.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:18 PM (T1005)

278 11. Marriage is sex, innit? (see: Same sex marriage)

Posted by: madtom at May 05, 2014 08:19 PM (cOb0J)

279 You can mock up stuff with all kinds of programs, but if you want to pass local code requirements (if you live where these are applicable) you are going to have to hire an architect. Because, racket.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 08:19 PM (JgC5a)

280 Damn, I was trying to figure out who I'd indelibly mark as the "Kaboom!" of morons, and finally just used my own nic.....and it was so obvious.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 12:18 AM (T1005)



You're one of the "Call, and we'll answer" Morons.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:19 PM (MpP9p)

281 265 His red line- o- meter might hit critical if LA, one of his prime fund raising sources, is hit. He might actually draw it extra wide .

Posted by: Tuna at May 05, 2014 08:20 PM (7KPIw)

282 chemjeff, sounds good. I can't count cards that great so no worries of getting '86ed. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 08:20 PM (HVI5a)

283 275 Can you be a bit more precise on the "Home building/planning type stuff" front?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 12:14 AM (T1005)


I'm looking for something that will let me build from scratch. Input overall dimensions and then build the interior out from scratch.

I'm just playing really. There are a couple abandoned/empty buildings here locally that would make awesome bugout/lockdown type facilities. I entertain myself by building them out in my head. It'd be nice to actually be able to see a visual representation of what I'm doing. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 06, 2014 12:17 AM (GEICT) Hide posts from (GEICT)



So, you're thinking more on the drafting front than planning/estimation/renderings/etc.?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:20 PM (T1005)

284 Weirddave will be along shortly to beat you to smithereens. Posted by: Vendette ---------------- Me? I am a landscape of virtue. Ask anyone.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 05, 2014 08:20 PM (aDwsi)

285 naw, the Kaboom! of morons has got to be... well, umm... hmmm....

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 08:21 PM (9GG/0)

286 272 Could be worse. Imagine driving Mr. MooMoo home. yeah, I'd probably drive about a block and then kick him out at the next street corner Posted by: chemjeff at May 06, 2014 12:15 AM (9GG/0) That's better than shooting him

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2014 08:22 PM (kQj83)

287 281 You can mock up stuff with all kinds of programs, but if you want to pass local code requirements (if you live where these are applicable) you are going to have to hire an architect.

Because, racket. Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 12:19 AM (JgC5a) Hide posts from (JgC5a)


Unless you're talking local zoning (e.g. architectural review boards), you'd need more of an engineer than an architect. And I ended-up pulling permits and redoing my kitchen with crap drawings I did.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:23 PM (T1005)

288 well I think I have consumed enough beer for the night.
good night all
I hope the Vegas Moron Meetup is for realz, would love to go to it.

see ya

Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 08:23 PM (9GG/0)

289 So, you're thinking more on the drafting front than planning/estimation/renderings/etc.? Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 12:20 AM (T1005) Something like that. Here's an example. There's a 2 story abandoned brick building downtown. Completely gutted interior. Overall dimensions are something like 80' x 35'. So I play around in my head. How would I build it out if the building was mine? How would I make it safe, secure and livable? I'm just looking for something that will let me put a physical representation to the ideas bouncing around my skull.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 08:23 PM (GEICT)

290 What Does It Feel Like to be Stupid? Only a liberal can answer that question.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at May 05, 2014 08:23 PM (jOKH1)

291 Me? I am a landscape of virtue. Ask anyone.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 06, 2014 12:20 AM (aDwsi)



Weirddave is a co-poster of the gardening thread.  Check your landscaping (for the purposes of this establishment, I mean your outside, dirt/flowers/grass landscaping).

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:23 PM (MpP9p)

292 Anybody see T9 lately?

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 08:24 PM (QeH9j)

293 Wait. Wait. Maybe marriage is love. (see: Same sex marriage)

Posted by: madtom at May 05, 2014 08:24 PM (cOb0J)

294 I just read somewhere that Romneycare is kaput. The Circle is Complete.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 08:24 PM (LJ7Ze)

295 naw, the Kaboom! of morons has got to be... well, umm... hmmm....

Posted by: chemjeff at May 06, 2014 12:21 AM (9GG/0)



AtC's strike force.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:25 PM (MpP9p)

296 My body hates me for eating a pound and a half of gnocchi. So much working out in my near future

Posted by: The Dude at May 05, 2014 08:25 PM (bStrg)

297 I'm just looking for something that will let me put a physical representation to the ideas bouncing around my skull))) I have not used this but I do like their pro stuff. http://usa.autodesk.com/homestyler/

Posted by: Dendritic at May 05, 2014 08:26 PM (75hfB)

298 So I play around in my head. How would I build it out if the building was mine? How would I make it safe, secure and livable?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 06, 2014 12:23 AM (GEICT)



I'm thinking Goa'uld mother ship.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 05, 2014 08:27 PM (FMbng)

299 296 I just read somewhere that Romneycare is kaput. The Circle is Complete.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 06, 2014 12:24 AM (LJ7Ze)

 

I don't know if its kaput but Mass is shutting down their exchange.  I have no clue if that kills Romneycare or merely the state's Obamacare connections.

 

Oh and don't let lincolntf see you call it Romneycare.  He went off about that earlier.  You know nevermind Romney's praise and defense of it during the primaries etc.

Posted by: buzzion at May 05, 2014 08:27 PM (LI48c)

300 I submitted drawings to my Planning Commission 3 times (this is in SF, natch). All were sent back. The last time I asked what I would have to do to get approved. The guy at the desk said "Sir, I am sorry to inform you, your plans are not even ready to be properly rejected." And then I hired an architect. And then HE got rejected 3 times.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 08:28 PM (JgC5a)

301 So I play around in my head. How would I build it out if the building was mine? How would I make it safe, secure and livable? I'm just looking for something that will let me put a physical representation to the ideas bouncing around my skull. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 06, 2014 12:23 AM (GEICT) If you're looking for free you'll end up with clunky. Looked for free apps/software just for an office buildout and was disappointed in all of them. Holy shit it's raining gallons here!

Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 08:28 PM (QeH9j)

302 Boxcar Joe just tried to get a cannuck to sign up for Obamacide.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 08:28 PM (LJ7Ze)

303 Posted by: Dendritic at May 06, 2014 12:26 AM (75hfB) Thanks. Bookmarked. I'll check that out when I get a chance.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 08:28 PM (GEICT)

304 Question for the HordeÂ…..I'm looking for some free software. Home building/planning type stuff. So far, the stuff I've found is really clunky and not easy to use. I know I'm hamstrung by saying "free", but there's got to be something halfway decent out there. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 06, 2014 12:07 AM (GEICT) Depends on what you want to use the software for. There are floorplan programs out there, but if you are looking for something more or different, they wouldn't be sufficient.

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 05, 2014 08:28 PM (K1sEu)

305 300 So I play around in my head. How would I build it out if the building was mine? How would I make it safe, secure and livable?




Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 06, 2014 12:23 AM (GEICT)


I'm thinking Goa'uld mother ship.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 06, 2014 12:27 AM (FMbng)

 

I don't know.  The rings seem to make that unsecure.  There seems to be no notification of when they are activated.

Posted by: buzzion at May 05, 2014 08:29 PM (LI48c)

306 I don't know if its kaput but Mass is shutting down their exchange. I have no clue if that kills Romneycare or merely the state's Obamacare connections.

Oh and don't let lincolntf see you call it Romneycare. He went off about that earlier. You know nevermind Romney's praise and defense of it during the primaries etc.

Posted by: buzzion at May 06, 2014 12:27 AM (LI48c)



Romneycare was killed off by Obamacare.  It wasn't good enough.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:29 PM (MpP9p)

307 My body hates me for eating a pound and a half of gnocchi. So much working out in my near future Posted by: The Dude at May 06, 2014 12:25 AM (bStrg) ******* Your mouth and stomach will love you though.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 08:29 PM (ojnk6)

308 Damn, I was trying to figure out who I'd indelibly mark as the "Kaboom!" of morons, and finally just used my own nic.....and it was so obvious. If ever an AoS joke needed the "you" tag........

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 05, 2014 08:30 PM (AHzA7)

309 Speaking of Sansabelt slacks. Check out the pic of Tom Brady and Giselle over at Drudge. If the red pants aren't bad enough take a gander at his new hairdo. LOL.

Posted by: Tuna at May 05, 2014 08:30 PM (7KPIw)

310 I had a pound of lean meatloaf.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 05, 2014 08:30 PM (LJ7Ze)

311 The thing is, I need to emphasize not only how lucky they'd be to have me, but why they should hand over craploads of money. I can get a job at a lot of places, but I want to maximize my value. It'd be a lot easier without Obamanomics. Oh wellÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 05, 2014 08:31 PM (K1sEu)

312 The joys of a 3-hour rain delay that started around 8:20 p.m. on a Monday:  Practically no one is in the ballpark at the moment (I refer to Nationals Stadium in DC).

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:31 PM (MpP9p)

313 Ariana Grande really grew up quite nicely

http://bit.ly/1iS9vgf

Posted by: The Dude at May 05, 2014 08:31 PM (bStrg)

314 Damn, I'd so like to come to Vegas in July, except I made a promise to myself 30 years ago to avoid Vegas in July and January. I even have a friend there who has offered me a place to stay the next time I show up.
 
Halloween would be so much better imho, as I saw suggested today. I would be 'in'.
 
I don't care about airfare costs, as I no longer fly. Fuck the TSA. The last time I flew in 2005, I got singled out for a special inspection. They won't get another chance. It's only a 2k drive; two days and I'm there.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 08:31 PM (wNF3N)

315 You want ace. You'll settle for Gabe. You'll get me.

Posted by: eleven at May 05, 2014 08:32 PM (fsLdt)

316 Oh and don't let lincolntf see you call it Romneycare. He went off about that earlier. You know nevermind Romney's praise and defense of it during the primaries etc. Posted by: buzzion at May 06, 2014 12:27 AM (LI48c) ******** To be fair, though Romney was Governor, this one came from the Dem Legislature. Romney did what he could as a somewhat Red Governor in a Blue state, but it it is now what it is.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 08:33 PM (ojnk6)

317 Heh.  There's a game on Steam on sale for $0.98  Cthulhu Save The World

Posted by: buzzion at May 05, 2014 08:33 PM (LI48c)

318 Just did some budget jostling. Looks like I may be able to come to/afford the meetup. Wish Yankeefifth would show up to confirm the dates and reassure us all this is really going to happen. No guarantees, but for the time being, everyone please pencil qdpsteve in. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 08:34 PM (HVI5a)

319 Me? I am a landscape of virtue. Ask anyone. Have you seen the type of stuff I do to landscapes in the gardening thread?

Posted by: Weirddave at May 05, 2014 08:35 PM (N/cFh)

320 New 24 series is good so far. I hope there is not too much of the libtardism that affected the last few seasons of the first rendition.

Posted by: logprof, trying to avoid spoilers at May 05, 2014 08:35 PM (un0yB)

321 297 naw, the Kaboom! of morons has got to be... well, umm... hmmm.... Posted by: chemjeff at May 06, 2014 12:21 AM (9GG/0) AtC's strike force. Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 12:25 AM (MpP9p) Curious? or whatever it is calling itself these days.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at May 05, 2014 08:35 PM (HxSXm)

322 Dude, my brother makes great gnocchi from scratch. A few weeks ago, as I was leaving, he hands me a Tupperware and says "this should be 2 or 3 servings" - well, he had to cook twice, but it went down in one evening. I had it with a jar of Prego "bacon & provolone" marinara. Damn good stuff.

Posted by: shredded chi at May 05, 2014 08:36 PM (RfLFX)

323 "I submitted drawings to my Planning Commission 3 times (this is in SF, natch). All were sent back. The last time I asked what I would have to do to get approved. The guy at the desk said 'Sir, I am sorry to inform you, your plans are not even ready to be properly rejected.' And then I hired an architect. And then HE got rejected 3 times."

SF's planning and building departments are notoriously corrupt.

There have been periodic scandals involving "expediters", who charge a stiff fee to get your project through the mill, where a chunk of that fee is getting kicked back as cash in brown envelopes to cronies who work in the city departments.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 05, 2014 08:36 PM (noWW6)

324 Have you seen the type of stuff I do to landscapes in the gardening thread?

Posted by: Weirddave at May 06, 2014 12:35 AM (N/cFh)



A big flaming C?

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:36 PM (MpP9p)

325
You want Ace.
You'll settle for Gabe.
You'll get Ed Morrissey.

Posted by: the new AOSHQ/Tepid Air exchange program at May 05, 2014 08:36 PM (YxFgE)

326 Gnu, Maybe those of us who are planning to drive can gin up a Moron taxi service. Dog carriers on the roof, belted restraints in the trunk, etc.

Posted by: Piercello at May 05, 2014 08:36 PM (JybVy)

327 I've used MS Visio to do informal floor plans for several light industrial shop setups (strictly for internal planning). You might also consider the free SketchUp Make for 3D stuff. Used to be Google SketchUp, but they sold it off awhile back.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 05, 2014 08:37 PM (AHzA7)

328 291 So, you're thinking more on the drafting front than planning/estimation/renderings/etc.?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 12:20 AM (T1005)


Something like that.

Here's an example. There's a 2 story abandoned brick building downtown. Completely gutted interior. Overall dimensions are something like 80' x 35'.

So I play around in my head. How would I build it out if the building was mine? How would I make it safe, secure and livable?

I'm just looking for something that will let me put a physical representation to the ideas bouncing around my skull. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 06, 2014 12:23 AM (GEICT) Hide posts from (GEICT)


Well, I hate to tell you this but pretty much every drafting program is a PITA with a big learning curve. In addition, once you're proficient, you'll find that there is at least one point in whatever you're doing with the thing where something that should take you five minutes takes you three hours and frustrates you so much you start showing signs of hypertension.


So I'll go off the beaten path and suggest something outlandish -- for that 80'x35' building.....get a roll of something like this -- http://tinyurl.com/nsp9x67 -- hack yourself off two 4' sections, and draw a rectangle 40 inches by 17.5 inches on each. Scale is 1/2" to 1', easy-peasy.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:38 PM (T1005)

329 SketchUp is awesome, I use it every day

Posted by: The Dude at May 05, 2014 08:38 PM (bStrg)

330 Oh, and in one of the scandal-sheet articles about the "expediter" racket in SF, some poor homeowner related how they had submitted their plans, had them rudely rejected as totally unapprovable, then paid the expediter a couple of grand, and _the identical plan set_ promptly sailed right through.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 05, 2014 08:39 PM (noWW6)

331 Curious? or whatever it is calling itself these days.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at May 06, 2014 12:35 AM (HxSXm)



I created that off the top of my head when I posted that response, but I figure there are enough Morons and 'ettes who would be happy to back it up.



And having met AtC in person, she deserves a strike force.  Corgis should be part of it.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:39 PM (MpP9p)

332 A big flaming C? What's the difference between an A cup bra and an Oilers fan? An Oilers fan's only got one joke.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 05, 2014 08:41 PM (N/cFh)

333 A meeting room planning program can be helpful here without trying to tear your hair out. Www.roomviewer.com. One room at a time, but without the insane learning curve kf other design programs.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 08:41 PM (ojnk6)

334 SketchUp is awesome, I use it every day Posted by: The Dude at May 06, 2014 12:38 AM (bStrg) I know several people who agree. Full on fanbois. I've got it on my PC, but I haven't really started playing with it yet.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 05, 2014 08:41 PM (AHzA7)

335 "...then paid the expediter a couple of grand, and _the identical plan set_ promptly sailed right through." I would not doubt it one bit. This is all completely plausible.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 08:41 PM (JgC5a)

336 302 I submitted drawings to my Planning Commission 3 times (this is in SF, natch).

All were sent back. The last time I asked what I would have to do to get approved. The guy at the desk said "Sir, I am sorry to inform you, your plans are not even ready to be properly rejected."

And then I hired an architect.

And then HE got rejected 3 times. Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 12:28 AM (JgC5a) Hide posts from (JgC5a)


In Santa Barbara, you must have white walls and a tile roof -- and you can't even repaint your front door without a checkoff. In Savannah, we kept seeing posted "Certificate of Appropriateness" signs for projects.....

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:41 PM (T1005)

337 Huh. flipping channels & Jack Bauer is on Charlie Rose / PBS right now.

Posted by: shredded chi at May 05, 2014 08:41 PM (RfLFX)

338 I've never used SketchUp, but others have raved about it to me. The last guy I talked to was worried that the new owners (Garmin, the GPS company, oddly) were going to ruin it, though.

I have used IMSI Floorplan 3D and found it dorky and buggy, but cheap, and I was able to relatively quickly generate a set of elevations suitable for at least a first pass quote from a contractor.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 05, 2014 08:42 PM (noWW6)

339 CthulhuÂ….oh I could do drawings by hand fairly easily. I work with prints every damn day. Like I said, I was just looking for something easy to play with. If the online stuff is that much a PITA, yeah, I may sketch some stuff out here and there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 08:43 PM (GEICT)

340 Huh. flipping channels & Jack Bauer is on Charlie Rose / PBS right now. Posted by: shredded chi at May 06, 2014 12:41 AM (RfLFX) Please tell me he's waterboarding Rose.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 05, 2014 08:43 PM (AHzA7)

341 BCochran: Try Sketchup. I've used it to design lots of stuff. Pretty powerful & quite intuitive.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 05, 2014 08:44 PM (hQqPo)

342 No PVC pipe allowed in San Francisco. Thank you, plumbers union.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 08:44 PM (JgC5a)

343 What's the difference between an A cup bra and an Oilers fan?

An Oilers fan's only got one joke.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 06, 2014 12:41 AM (N/cFh)



What's the difference between the Calgary Flames and a bra?



A bra has two cups.



What's the difference between the Vancouver Canucks and a saucer?


A saucer has a cup.


What's the difference between and A cup bra and an Oilers fan? 


Get that gal reduction surgery!


(The last part is my invention)

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:45 PM (MpP9p)

344 Charlie Rose being waterboarded would be proof of God.

Posted by: eleven at May 05, 2014 08:45 PM (fsLdt)

345 if you have an empty room and an iPad, MagicPlan is really nice. Friend of mine designed the new home he bought on it

Posted by: The Dude at May 05, 2014 08:46 PM (bStrg)

346 *Removes the d from the last part of my comment at 345, although what the heck, the A cup may need it.*

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:46 PM (MpP9p)

347 313 The thing is, I need to emphasize not only how lucky they'd be to have me, but why they should hand over craploads of money.

I can get a job at a lot of places, but I want to maximize my value. It'd be a lot easier without Obamanomics.

Oh wellÂ… Posted by: The Political Hat at May 06, 2014 12:31 AM (K1sEu) Hide posts from (K1sEu)


I'll tell you one that amazed the crap out of me. I was Controller of a place where we hired on a VP of Sales....and a year AFTER he'd been on board, he's still coming up with stuff like, "we should really get around to the company car that we discussed...."


It wasn't in the employment contract, it wasn't in any part of the deal I'd seen, I wasn't accruing anything for it.....but they rolled over and gave it to him anyway.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 08:46 PM (T1005)

348 No PVC pipe allowed in San Francisco. Thank you, plumbers union. Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 12:44 AM (JgC5a) **** WTF? Really? What exactly is allowed out there?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 08:46 PM (ojnk6)

349 Taking a break from writing. 

Looks like they arrested someone for spray painting all that Jewish hate in New York.  Turns out the suspect is a former NYPD cop and they have him in the mental ward for evaluation.

http://tinyurl.com/oyzc4zl

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 08:47 PM (mn8eY)

350 Damn, I'd so like to come to Vegas in July, except I made a promise to myself 30 years ago to avoid Vegas in July and January.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2014 12:31 AM (wNF3N)




The only time I was ever in Vegas was on a july 1st. It was the silliest thing I ever did. A fucking solar flare would have felt like air conditioning. I think I was more amazed that people actually lived in that climate. I thought I saw satan with an oxygen mask and an ice cube tied to his forehead, but it was probably just the frigging heat stroke making me see things. If I ever do vegas again it will be in some February in the middle of the next ice age during a solar flame out. July......why did I pick july..

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 05, 2014 08:47 PM (FMbng)

351 "WTF? Really? What exactly is allowed out there?" Galvanized steel, copper or iron (for the main sewer connections).

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 08:48 PM (JgC5a)

352 If I ever do vegas again it will be in some February in the middle of the next ice age during a solar flame out. July......why did I pick july.. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 06, 2014 12:47 AM (FMbng) Could be worse. I did basic training in Ft Benning starting in August. Not the smartest move.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 05, 2014 08:49 PM (AHzA7)

353 When I was a kid my family visited Vegas on the way to Disneyland.  I remember marveling at the fact that when we were walking along the strip after midnight it was over 100 degrees.  It was a dry heat, though. That makes a lot of difference.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:49 PM (MpP9p)

354 350 No PVC pipe allowed in San Francisco. Thank you, plumbers union. Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 12:44 AM (JgC5a) ))) WTF not even for vent piping?

Posted by: Dendritic at May 05, 2014 08:49 PM (75hfB)

355 LA Kings just keep winning. 4 in a row to close out the Sharks, now 2 against the Ducks.

Posted by: Hockey Miser at May 05, 2014 08:49 PM (T/9Cw)

356 No PVC ever, no how, no way.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 08:50 PM (JgC5a)

357 Alright, I'm out. Thanks for the help Horde. See you folks tomorrow.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 05, 2014 08:51 PM (GEICT)

358 And SMOD taunts.  Looks like May 23 and 24th we should be seeing a meteor shower from a comet.

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/meteor-storm-comet-may-light-sky-month-n97791

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 08:51 PM (mn8eY)

359 Galvanized steel, copper or iron (for the main sewer connections). Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 12:48 AM (JgC5a) ****** So, a guy with a roll of teflon tape and a conduit bender could do well. Cool.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 08:51 PM (ojnk6)

360 Gnu,

Maybe those of us who are planning to drive can gin up a Moron taxi service.

Dog carriers on the roof, belted restraints in the trunk, etc.
 
Piercello, shit yeah I'd go for that, but I'm not going to Vegas in July. I know Anna P was bitching about the airfare ; it would be great to swing by the Jackson MS area and pick her up...in October or so.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 08:54 PM (wNF3N)

361 Galvanized steel, copper or iron (for the main sewer connections). Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 12:48 AM (JgC5a) ------- The Plumber's lobby must be powerful out there. The galvanized will rust from the inside out, the copper will get stolen, and in the event of even a minor quake, I imagine the cast iron willl break apart (while pvc would flex a bit) - all ensuring continued work for the local Plumber's Union.

Posted by: shredded chi at May 05, 2014 08:54 PM (RfLFX)

362 navybrat, one of my favorite plays ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87RPezxj5Ac

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 08:56 PM (MpP9p)

363 The plumbers union? Powerful? Shit, they bought a whole town. Visit Clearlake, CA.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 08:56 PM (JgC5a)

364 Hotel and airfare was $717 + taxes for Circus Circus.  Sank the budget right there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 08:56 PM (mn8eY)

365 "...all ensuring continued work for the local Plumber's Union." You catch on fast.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 08:59 PM (JgC5a)

366 Navybrat, I'll add this too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8uZsP8y0J0

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 09:00 PM (MpP9p)

367 366 >> Hotel and airfare was $717 + taxes for Circus Circus. Sank the budget right there.
 
Dayum Anna. The last time I did the Vegas thing, it was from Chitcago and ran about $200 total for a 3 nite stay. That was in the 90s. Charter flights/package deals.
 
How times have changed.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 09:02 PM (wNF3N)

368 Thanks, Vendette, those are priceless.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 09:02 PM (JgC5a)

369 Even the EPA cocksucking assholes on This Old House use PVC.

Posted by: eleven at May 05, 2014 09:02 PM (fsLdt)

370 When I bought my house here in SF way back when, it had galvanized pipes that were completely calcified, I mean you could look down them after they were removed and not see any daylight whatsoever. I have no idea how water traveled thru them. Now we have copper all around. Except for the sewer feed which is iron. If you want to DIY you can go to San Mateo County and PVC and put it yourself. God forbid you sell the house in that condition. You will get raped on the offers.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 09:07 PM (JgC5a)

371 Plastic surgeryÂ… China style: http://tinyurl.com/lp78ufo Warning NSFWÂ… or for your own sanityÂ…

Posted by: 政治帽子 at May 05, 2014 09:08 PM (K1sEu)

372 Thanks, Vendette, those are priceless.

Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 01:02 AM (JgC5a)



I was in attendance at the Army-Navy game that showed this spirit spot and the whole crowd was "Wow, they went there."  Navy was winning at the time and Army came back.  Navy won at the end.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgSkAzRfzc0

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 09:08 PM (MpP9p)

373 362 Gnu,

Maybe those of us who are planning to drive can gin up a Moron taxi service.

Dog carriers on the roof, belted restraints in the trunk, etc.

Piercello, shit yeah I'd go for that, but I'm not going to Vegas in July. I know Anna P was bitching about the airfare ; it would be great to swing by the Jackson MS area and pick her up...in October or so.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2014 12:54 AM (wNF3N) Hide posts from (wNF3N)



Bitch, bitch, bitch....it's not like anyone is going to be walking around outside or anything. The temperature inside the casinos doesn't change whether it's 15 below or 120 degrees outside.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:09 PM (T1005)

374 A little Vegas mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPuKoqu6kMk

Posted by: The Vegas Hat at May 05, 2014 09:11 PM (K1sEu)

375 I don't go to Vegas for the weather. But, that's just me.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 09:13 PM (JgC5a)

376 The China plastic surgery link. Is that last chick going for the Wizard of OZ Wicked Witch chin? http://oz.wikia.com/wiki/Wicked_Witch

Posted by: Dendritic at May 05, 2014 09:14 PM (75hfB)

377 375 362
Gnu,

Maybe those of us who are planning to drive can gin up a Moron taxi service.

Dog carriers on the roof, belted restraints in the trunk, etc.

Piercello,
shit yeah I'd go for that, but I'm not going to Vegas in July. I know
Anna P was bitching about the airfare ; it would be great to swing by
the Jackson MS area and pick her up...in October or so.


Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2014 12:54 AM (wNF3N)
Hide posts from (wNF3N)



Bitch, bitch, bitch....it's not like anyone is going to be walking around outside or anything. The temperature inside the casinos doesn't change whether it's 15 below or 120 degrees outside.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:09 AM (T1005) Hide posts from (T1005)



And -- BTW -- if it's at the Rio, there is no f'in' way you're walking anywhere. It's significantly offset from the strip.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:15 PM (T1005)

378 And -- BTW -- if it's at the Rio, there is no f'in' way you're walking anywhere. It's significantly offset from the strip.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:15 AM (T1005)


It's a dry heat!!!!

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 09:16 PM (MpP9p)

379 The China plastic surgery link. Is that last chick going for the Wizard of OZ Wicked Witch chin? http://oz.wikia.com/wiki/Wicked_Witch Posted by: Dendritic at May 06, 2014 01:14 AM (75hfB) It's the same person. Clearly, like most of China's infrastructure, it wasn't built to last.

Posted by: 整容手术帽 at May 05, 2014 09:18 PM (K1sEu)

380 377 I don't go to Vegas for the weather.
But, that's just me. Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 01:13 AM (JgC5a) Hide posts from (JgC5a)



'Zactly.


....although you could do side trips at other times of the year.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:18 PM (T1005)

381 I don't go to Vegas for the weather. But, that's just me. Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 01:13 AM (JgC5a) ********* I went there once in October for fun, all other trips have been for work. Weather was good, but not my motivation for going.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 09:18 PM (ojnk6)

382 And -- BTW -- if it's at the Rio, there is no f'in' way you're walking anywhere. It's significantly offset from the strip. Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:15 AM (T1005) It's a dry heat!!!! Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:16 AM (MpP9p) It really does make a difference. I'd rather walk around in 120 degree dry heat than 90 degree heat with 100% humidity.

Posted by: The Dry Hat (shaken, not stirred) at May 05, 2014 09:18 PM (K1sEu)

383 Be well all. I have to work early tomorrow, damn it. It will be interesting. Keep on keeping on. T

Posted by: The Farmer at May 05, 2014 09:19 PM (eBupg)

384 One of my all time favorite jazz vocalists, Joe Williams (baritone), he fell ill in Vegas. At some point he decided that he did not enjoy his hospital accommodations. He lit out on foot, made a break for it, in his hospital gown. And that is how they found him, about a mile down the road.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 09:20 PM (JgC5a)

385 It really does make a difference.

I'd rather walk around in 120 degree dry heat than 90 degree heat with 100% humidity.

Posted by: The Dry Hat (shaken, not stirred) at May 06, 2014 01:18 AM (K1sEu)


When I was a Little Vendette I remember walking around the Las Vegas strip after midnight and it was 109.  The lights made it look like the middle of the afternoon and there was no humidity.


Meanwhile, the Nats finally beat the Dodgers 4-0. 

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 09:22 PM (MpP9p)

386 A local metal band I found in Vegas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqnd5I-XFfE

Posted by: Metal… Vegas… Hat… at May 05, 2014 09:23 PM (K1sEu)

387 380 And -- BTW -- if it's at the Rio, there is no f'in' way you're walking anywhere. It's significantly offset from the strip.


Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:15 AM (T1005)

It's a dry heat!!!!
Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:16 AM (MpP9p) Hide posts from (MpP9p)


You also wouldn't be visiting Stratosphere and Circus Circus, 'cause they're up from the strip a bit. The strip is basically between the Wynn and the Luxor -- http://tinyurl.com/nk47n

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:23 PM (T1005)

388 Is the Vegas plan operational?

Posted by: Arbalest at May 05, 2014 09:24 PM (FlRtG)

389 379 cth, I sweat when the temp gets above 75, and there is NO WAY I'd keep confined to one casino. I have much experience in these matters. There's a more than reasonable chance I could pay for the trip if I moved around the various casinos, and I would be attempting to do so.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 09:26 PM (wNF3N)

390 Every other day I have the blues.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 09:27 PM (JgC5a)

391 Incidentally, and totally as an aside, you cannot use the word casino at Hot Air. It's a banned word, just like revolution.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 09:29 PM (wNF3N)

392 Every other day I have the blues.

Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 01:27 AM (JgC5a)



Navy beat Army in 2002 and every year thereafter.  Celebrate!

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 09:29 PM (MpP9p)

393 Good night all! Here I am checking out a less than 400 comments. slow night.

Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 09:30 PM (JgC5a)

394 Here I am checking out a less than 400 comments.
slow night.

Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 01:30 AM (JgC5a)



Beat Army and Air Force!

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 09:31 PM (MpP9p)

395 391 379 cth, I sweat when the temp gets above 75, and there is NO WAY I'd keep confined to one casino. I have much experience in these matters. There's a more than reasonable chance I could pay for the trip if I moved around the various casinos, and I would be attempting to do so.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2014 01:26 AM (wNF3N) Hide posts from (wNF3N)



If you're at the Rio, you're going to take a cab to anywhere on the strip. If you're on the strip, there are several (!) monorails available (most free) -- http://tinyurl.com/ko5n58d.


In practice, this means that you can get from casino to casino while spending minimal time outside, and without significant effort outside. And every casino will be totally air-conditioned.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:35 PM (T1005)

396 good lord, 500 million spent on Destiny

Posted by: The Dude at May 05, 2014 09:36 PM (bStrg)

397 396 Here I am checking out a less than 400 comments.

slow night.

Posted by: navybrat at May 06, 2014 01:30 AM (JgC5a)


Beat Army and Air Force!
Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:31 AM (MpP9p) Hide posts from (MpP9p)



Don't just sit there like a rock, say something entertaining!

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:36 PM (T1005)

398 398 good lord, 500 million spent on Destiny
Posted by: The Dude at May 06, 2014 01:36 AM (bStrg) Hide posts from (bStrg)



What's that?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:37 PM (T1005)

399 http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/06/us-activision-destiny-idUSBREA4501F20140506?feedType=RSS

Posted by: The Dude at May 05, 2014 09:38 PM (bStrg)

400 Don't just sit there like a rock, say something entertaining!

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:36 AM (T1005)



Why is it that in the Robin Hood Disney movie King Richard is a lion but his cousin  Maid Marian is a vixen (aka. a female fox)?

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 09:39 PM (MpP9p)

401 cth, I sweat when the temp gets above 75, and there is NO WAY I'd keep confined to one casino. I have much experience in these matters. There's a more than reasonable chance I could pay for the trip if I moved around the various casinos, and I would be attempting to do so. Posted by: GnuBreed at May 06, 2014 01:26 AM (wNF3N) The lack of humidity really does matter. 110 degrees without humidity is easier to handle than 80 degrees with 100% humidity. Just drink plenty of liquids, and you'll be fine. Trust a local.

Posted by: Dry… Vegas… Hat… at May 05, 2014 09:39 PM (K1sEu)

402 I do have to admit that walking out of AC into heat over about 110 is like going through one of those air-curtains. The change is so extreme that you can feel the hit. It's not damaging -- more like being hit with the softest pillows imaginable from head to foot -- but it can catch you off-guard.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:41 PM (T1005)

403 Why is it that in the Robin Hood Disney movie King Richard is a lion but his cousin Maid Marian is a vixen (aka. a female fox)? Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:39 AM (MpP9p) Bestiality, duh! Heck, the first new episode of Doctor Who with Capaldi will have the lesbian bestiality Victorian girls

Posted by: The Cis-Species Hat at May 05, 2014 09:42 PM (K1sEu)

404 "Something interesting!"

Posted by: Piercello at May 05, 2014 09:43 PM (JybVy)

405 Or, er, entertaining.

Posted by: Piercello at May 05, 2014 09:44 PM (JybVy)

406 Bestiality, duh!

Heck, the first new episode of Doctor Who with Capaldi will have the lesbian bestiality Victorian girls

Posted by: The Cis-Species Hat at May 06, 2014 01:42 AM (K1sEu)



*Smackitysmacksmacksmack*

Posted by: Lady Cluck at May 05, 2014 09:45 PM (MpP9p)

407 384 And -- BTW -- if it's at the Rio, there is no f'in' way you're walking anywhere. It's significantly offset from the strip. Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:15 AM (T1005) It's a dry heat!!!! Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:16 AM (MpP9p) It really does make a difference. I'd rather walk around in 120 degree dry heat than 90 degree heat with 100% humidity. Posted by: The Dry Hat (shaken, not stirred) at May 06, 2014 01:18 AM (K1sEu) Hot is hot. I live in 90's with high humidity, but 120 in Vegas burns your lungs.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at May 05, 2014 09:46 PM (HxSXm)

408 Political Hat, glad you're here. Do you remember the agreed-upon dates for the July Vegas meetup? I said they were July 18-20 but could of course be wrong.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 09:47 PM (HVI5a)

409 Rio: It's closer to Ceasar's than the Wynn is to Ceasar's. It's just one overpass to the strip from Rio. I've stayed at a handful of the Strip hotels; off-strip is worth the walk for those not susceptible to heat-stroke or perambulatorily-challenged. Besides, July is no where as hot at Aug/Sept.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 09:47 PM (JmGFJ)

410 402 Don't just sit there like a rock, say something entertaining!


Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:36 AM (T1005)


Why is it that in the Robin Hood Disney movie King Richard is a lion but his cousin Maid Marian is a vixen (aka. a female fox)?
Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:39 AM (MpP9p) Hide posts from (MpP9p)


I didn't mean you -- you had just said something interesting already. I was chiming in on navybrat's comment # thing.


.....but since you mention it.....



Speaking of Disney, he was widely applauded for actually doing expensive motion studies for his animators to study....but is there any surprise, as a businessman, that he'd get the most mileage he could from them? -- http://tinyurl.com/ybxgrr2

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:48 PM (T1005)

411 I've read you do NOT want to drive the strip from June through September. Supposedly it makes the I-5 in LA look like the Audobon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 09:48 PM (HVI5a)

412 Also, The Gold Coast is right next to the Rio; much cheaper that the Rio.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 09:49 PM (JmGFJ)

413 We all should stop by the Wynn at least once just to say thanks to him for calling Clooney out on being a 1%er liberal asshole.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 09:49 PM (HVI5a)

414 Saw some great rates on the Silverton the weekend of July 18-20. About 9 minutes from the Rio if you take I-15. Will be scrutinizing good rates as they come up. At this point even one of the Motel 6s is possible doable.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 09:50 PM (HVI5a)

415 What hidden meaning is there behind Baloo the bear in Disney's Jungle Book? Or for that matter that creepy orangutan.

Posted by: Dendritic at May 05, 2014 09:51 PM (75hfB)

416 Just don't stay at the Imperial. Yoo've Bin Warned.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 09:51 PM (JmGFJ)

417 405 Why is it that in the Robin Hood Disney movie King Richard is a lion but his cousin Maid Marian is a vixen (aka. a female fox)?

Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:39 AM (MpP9p)

Bestiality, duh!

Heck, the first new episode of Doctor Who with Capaldi will have the lesbian bestiality Victorian girls Posted by: The Cis-Species Hat at May 06, 2014 01:42 AM (K1sEu) Hide posts from (K1sEu)



(1) Where did you get that?


(2) Will they actually cut loose and let Capaldi describe this with the requisite number of utterances of the word "fuck"? We know he can do it.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:52 PM (T1005)

418 weft cut: what do you think of Orleans? And then if you REALLY want a deal, there's the (old and creaky, but still operational on Fremont Street) El Cortez. To top it off, I've read that once you've paid for two nights there, you're pretty much guaranteed coupons for two free nights there every year for the rest of your freakin' life.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 09:53 PM (HVI5a)

419 407 Or, er, entertaining. Posted by: Piercello at May 06, 2014 01:44 AM (JybVy) Hide posts from (JybVy)


Yeah, whatev.....either way.....

Posted by: Dim Bulb at May 05, 2014 09:53 PM (T1005)

420 I didn't mean you -- you had just said something interesting already. I was chiming in on navybrat's comment # thing.


Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:48 AM (T1005)



I'm saved!  But cthuhu, you should know that I respect you.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 09:53 PM (MpP9p)

421 Y5 had said July 18-20 was the plan, but also mentioned something about a possible group rate at the Rio if there were going to be enough of us.

Posted by: Piercello at May 05, 2014 09:54 PM (JybVy)

422 At this point even one of the Motel 6s is possible doable. Posted by: qdpsteve Eh, motels in downtown vegas are uber-sketchy. Lot's of weird shit going down on Friday nights and you should expect a red and blue light show outside your room at least one night a weekend.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 09:54 PM (JmGFJ)

423 409 384 And -- BTW -- if it's at the Rio, there is no f'in' way you're walking anywhere. It's significantly offset from the strip.


Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:15 AM (T1005)

It's a dry heat!!!!

Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:16 AM (MpP9p)

It really does make a difference.

I'd rather walk around in 120 degree dry heat than 90 degree heat with 100% humidity.
Posted by: The Dry Hat (shaken, not stirred) at May 06, 2014 01:18 AM (K1sEu)


Hot is hot. I live in 90's with high humidity, but 120 in Vegas burns your lungs. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at May 06, 2014 01:46 AM (HxSXm) Hide posts from (HxSXm)


I once had a romantic encounter in an operating sauna. You. Do. Not. Know. Burned. Lungs.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:54 PM (T1005)

424 "Black Bullet" is rather keen on Lolis being blown awayÂ…

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at May 05, 2014 09:55 PM (K1sEu)

425 "...will have the lesbian bestiality Victorian Secret girls" FIFY

Posted by: Piercello at May 05, 2014 09:56 PM (JybVy)

426 I once had a romantic encounter in an operating sauna. You. Do. Not. Know. Burned. Lungs.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:54 AM (T1005)



Burned lungs?  



Hot springs are too dangerous for you.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 09:57 PM (MpP9p)

427 Political Hat, glad you're here. Do you remember the agreed-upon dates for the July Vegas meetup? I said they were July 18-20 but could of course be wrong. Posted by: qdpsteve at May 06, 2014 01:47 AM (HVI5a) Those are the last dates I remember being mentioned.

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 05, 2014 09:57 PM (K1sEu)

428 >>>Why is it that in the Robin Hood Disney movie King Richard is a lion but his cousin Maid Marian is a vixen (aka. a female fox)?

Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:39 AM (MpP9p)<<<



Uh, don't look at me!

Posted by: the fox mailman who had Maid Marian's castle on his route at May 05, 2014 09:58 PM (T/9Cw)

429 418 Just don't stay at the Imperial.

Yoo've Bin Warned. Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2014 01:51 AM (JmGFJ) Hide posts from (JmGFJ)



I've stayed at the Imperial....it's a bit weird. It's especially interesting during a rain, as the parking garage sits atop a feeder to the storm drain system and can have a 5' deep raging river running through it. Other than that, the Nazi memorabilia, and the car museum in the attic, what were you thinking of?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 09:59 PM (T1005)

430 Heck, the first new episode of Doctor Who with Capaldi will have the lesbian bestiality Victorian girls Posted by: The Cis-Species Hat at May 06, 2014 01:42 AM (K1sEu) Hide posts from (K1sEu) (1) Where did you get that? (2) Will they actually cut loose and let Capaldi describe this with the requisite number of utterances of the word "fuck"? We know he can do it. Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:52 AM (T1005) From one of the Dr. Who spoiler sites. http://tinyurl.com/lrzvtlf

Posted by: The Temporal Hat at May 05, 2014 10:00 PM (K1sEu)

431 Quick question for the horde members who are still awake... How much would you pay for a short story on Kindle? Their royalty program only pays 35% if you price under $2.99, but I feel like that is too high for a short work. Thoughts?

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2014 10:01 PM (ejehg)

432 422 I didn't mean you -- you had just said something interesting already. I was chiming in on navybrat's comment # thing.




Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 01:48 AM (T1005)


I'm saved! But cthuhu, you should know that I respect you.
Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:53 AM (MpP9p) Hide posts from (MpP9p)


Vendette, you are cherished....and I am overflowing with joy that you'll be reunited so soon. If you remember us at all, let us know you're doing well.....we'll be looking for a signal starting somewhere around Day 3.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 10:02 PM (T1005)

433 Quick question for the horde members who are still awake... How much would you pay for a short story on Kindle? Their royalty program only pays 35% if you price under $2.99, but I feel like that is too high for a short work. Thoughts? Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2014 02:01 AM (ejehg) I'd pay a buck for a single shorty story. But then, I'm used to torrenting or just buying the anthology/publication as a wholeÂ…

Posted by: The Science Fictional and/or Fantasy Hat at May 05, 2014 10:03 PM (K1sEu)

434 weft cut: what do you think of Orleans? Posted by: qdpsteve Orleans is way, way off strip. You'll be on a bus or you will have to drive to get to the Strip. However, accomodation-wise, seems ok. And then if you REALLY want a deal, there's the (old and creaky, but still operational on Fremont Street) El Cortez. To top it off, I've read that once you've paid for two nights there, you're pretty much guaranteed coupons for two free nights there every year for the rest of your freakin' life. Downtown Vegas isn't as bad as it sounds (a hotel there would be a decent back up for the meetup. ) No, it's not as clean/chic/swingin' as the Strip, but it's a bit cheaper. Don't know much about the quality of accommodations, but they do have cheaper Blackjack/Poker tables; IE $5 tables everyday.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 10:04 PM (JmGFJ)

435 How much would you pay for a short story on Kindle? Their royalty program only pays 35% if you price under $2.99, but I feel like that is too high for a short work. Thoughts? Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2014 02:01 AM (ejehg) ****** Naturally depends on content and subject, Lauren. Too many varibles to answer definitively.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 10:05 PM (ojnk6)

436 Off-strip places will give you better odds.

Posted by: The Gamblin' hat in Vegas at May 05, 2014 10:06 PM (K1sEu)

437 Quick question for the horde members who are still awake...

How much would you pay for a short story on Kindle? Their royalty program only pays 35% if you price under $2.99, but I feel like that is too high for a short work.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2014 02:01 AM (ejehg)


Pay up for stories from Sarah Hoyt, Laura Hile, and Susan Kaye.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 10:07 PM (MpP9p)

438 433 Quick question for the horde members who are still awake...

How much would you pay for a short story on Kindle? Their royalty program only pays 35% if you price under $2.99, but I feel like that is too high for a short work.

Thoughts? Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2014 02:01 AM (ejehg) Hide posts from (ejehg)


Single short stories are teasers, meant to promote brand loyalty. As such, their value is in building the reader base and not the royalty. Use them sparingly as lead-ins to anthologies, which can easily hit $2.99.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 10:07 PM (T1005)

439 Vendette, you are cherished....and I am overflowing with joy that you'll be reunited so soon. If you remember us at all, let us know you're doing well.....we'll be looking for a signal starting somewhere around Day 3.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 02:02 AM (T1005)


Thank you!!!  God willing, he'll be home at this time tomorrow. 

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 10:09 PM (MpP9p)

440 Other than that, the Nazi memorabilia, and the car museum in the attic, what were you thinking of? Posted by: cthulhu Cramped, stinky rooms, labyrinthine parking, shitty casino, loooong ass check-in, fucked-up exit to the strip, and ass-end of all restaurants... what's not to love?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 10:09 PM (JmGFJ)

441 I'm out. Good evening to all.

Posted by: Piercello at May 05, 2014 10:11 PM (JybVy)

442 If I should come and hit a BIG jackpot, I'll treat all the meetup members to Kobe steak at the Craftsteak at MGM Grand. 0.001% chance of it happening I know. But still...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:11 PM (HVI5a)

443 The major benefit to downtown Vegas is access to "The Heart Attack Grill" with burgers so good, people have literally died of heart-attacks while eating thereÂ…

Posted by: The Gamblin' hat in Vegas at May 05, 2014 10:12 PM (K1sEu)

444 Cramped, stinky rooms, labyrinthine parking, shitty casino, loooong ass check-in, fucked-up exit to the strip, and ass-end of all restaurants... what's not to love? Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2014 02:09 AM (JmGFz ***** Obviously, you've never stayed at the Rio.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 10:13 PM (ojnk6)

445 "Single short stories are teasers, meant to promote brand loyalty. As such, their value is in building the reader base and not the royalty. Use them sparingly as lead-ins to anthologies, which can easily hit $2.99" That's what I was thinking. Release a couple of short stories for $.99, and then a bit later an anthology for $2.99.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2014 10:14 PM (ejehg)

446 Gamblin' Hat: I saw the Heart Attack Grill in Vegas at the far end of The Fremont Street Experience back in 2012. As I recall they used to be in Chandler, Arizona. I know the owner got in trouble for dubbing his short-order cooks "doctors" and the waitresses "nurses." It sounds like an okay/novel concept, I love burgers as much as anybody, and I'm pro-choice as far as how anybody else wants to eat, but I personally doubt I'd ever have a burger there.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:14 PM (HVI5a)

447 Call me crazy but I'd much rather have a burger at the Steak 'n Shake that's located inside of South Point at the far southern end of the Strip (beyond any kind of action on the strip, really) in Vegas.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:15 PM (HVI5a)

448 I have a co-worker who tells me that caffeine makes him stupid.


I asked him how he could tell.


He proceeded to tell me.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 05, 2014 10:16 PM (xa1/W)

449 442 Other than that, the Nazi memorabilia, and the car museum in the attic, what were you thinking of?
Posted by: cthulhu

Cramped, stinky rooms, labyrinthine parking, shitty casino, loooong ass check-in, fucked-up exit to the strip, and ass-end of all restaurants... what's not to love? Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2014 02:09 AM (JmGFJ) Hide posts from (JmGFJ)

The Imp is like three different hotels stuck together -- we haven't had the cramped, stinky ones....but I don't doubt they exist. The parking garage is odd when its dry, but it's seriously odd (and dangerous) when it rains -- we saw a bus almost swept away. Who the hell hangs out there? -- it's just a place to doss. I didn't notice the check-in was that bad. The entrance to the strip is sort of like platform 9-3/4 in the Harry Potter series. And.....holy crap! You ATE there?!?!?!?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 10:16 PM (T1005)

450 96 In news of the dumb, WWE has a new bad guy. Alexander Rusev, the Bulgarian Brute. Rusev is always introduced by his Russian valet, Lana.



Since Ukraine went hot, Lana now opens be first praising the only man stronger and more powerful than Rusev -- Vladimir Putin. They put Putin's shining face on the jumbotron.



Tonight she bragged about how all the stupid Americans were pawns in Putin's game, but don't worry, now that they had Snowden, all of your American secrets were safe with Mother Russia.



Dumb fun.

Posted by: Costanza Defense


So, the WWE will do the job of explaining foreign affairs to the masses now that the MSM are nothing but grovelling gatekeepers. Sure, what the hell. Why not!

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 05, 2014 10:16 PM (15w2J)

451 One of the "benefits" of eating at the Heart Attack Grill: I know they have a scale there. I've read that if you weight more than 350 pounds, they'll feed you all you want as often as you want... for free.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:17 PM (HVI5a)

452 How much would you pay for a short story on Kindle? Their royalty program only pays 35% if you price under $2.99, but I feel like that is too high for a short work. Thoughts? Posted by: Lauren The problem is that 'free' is all too common on the intar-webs. The English language web hasn't yet been able to replicate the late 19/early 20 century serial publishing model. Me? Write 30 of them, and publish a compilation after flogging the living hell out of them. Remember, the internet is awash in free crap. Crap nonetheless, but free. Self-published authors now need to find an audience, reside in a community of readers (AoSHQ) , and flog effortlessly, and that, hopefully, fingers-crossed, leads to wider exposure.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 10:18 PM (JmGFJ)

453 447 "Single short stories are teasers, meant to promote brand loyalty. As such, their value is in building the reader base and not the royalty. Use them sparingly as lead-ins to anthologies, which can easily hit $2.99"

That's what I was thinking. Release a couple of short stories for $.99, and then a bit later an anthology for $2.99.

Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2014 02:14 AM (ejehg) Hide posts from (ejehg)


I can even give you the name of the anthology: "%short story name% and other tales of wonder".

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 10:18 PM (T1005)

454 I have a co-worker who tells me that caffeine makes him stupid.


I asked him how he could tell.


He proceeded to tell me.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 06, 2014 02:16 AM (xa1/W)



Wake me up, before you go-go!

Because I'm not planning on going solo!

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 10:20 PM (MpP9p)

455 449 Call me crazy but I'd much rather have a burger at the Steak 'n Shake that's located inside of South Point at the far southern end of the Strip (beyond any kind of action on the strip, really) in Vegas. Posted by: qdpsteve at May 06, 2014 02:15 AM (HVI5a) Hide posts from (HVI5a)


Red Square in Mandalay Bay (assuming they're still there) was pretty tasty.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 10:20 PM (T1005)

456 Some short stories are better and IMHO worth more than most novels. "Harrison Bergeron" is a great example. It's too bad Vonnegut never teased it out into a novel, because it's such a fantastic premise. It could have been a great semi-sequel to "1984" IMHO. Unfortunately, Vonnegut never got around to it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:20 PM (HVI5a)

457 Night, revisions on story were not as onerous as thought.  Added about 750 words to story.  Fun little story.

TPH have I stated lately how sick and tired I am of the female lizard inspector with her human maid/lover from Doctor Who?  Well I am.

Who ever jokes about 'dry heat' needs to be shot.  One time unit was at White Sands in July for an exercise.  We wore full gear including going into MOPP 4 several times out there.

Anyway, night all.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 10:20 PM (mn8eY)

458 Why is it that in the Robin Hood Disney movie King Richard is a lion but his cousin Maid Marian is a vixen (aka. a female fox)?

Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 01:39 AM (MpP9p)




Trivia question, other than being the villain in Robin Hood's story, what is Prince John famous for?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 05, 2014 10:21 PM (xa1/W)

459 Of course, that's all IMHO. ;-) [/bureau of repetitive repetitiveness]

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:21 PM (HVI5a)

460 " and other tales of wonder"." Ha. "wonder" might be a bit of a misnomer.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2014 10:21 PM (ejehg)

461 "and other CROMULENT tales of CRAPTASTIC wonder" FIFY. (in the case of most novelists) ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:22 PM (HVI5a)

462 Trivia question, other than being the villain in Robin Hood's story, what is Prince John famous for?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 06, 2014 02:21 AM (xa1/W)


The Magna Carta?

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 10:23 PM (MpP9p)

463 The Magna Carta?

Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 02:23 AM (MpP9p)




Dingdingdingdingding! We have a winner folks!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 05, 2014 10:23 PM (xa1/W)

464 Trivia question, other than being the villain in Robin Hood's story, what is Prince John famous for? Posted by: GGE PrinceJohnCare Whad'I win?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 10:24 PM (JmGFJ)

465 I see waaayyy up thread, The Deer Hunter is brought up for some reason. I've seen it a few times. I guess I always liked it because that town reminded my of my own. Considering it was suppose to be a steel town in Western PA (they actually used a town right across the border in West Virginia) is probably the reason. Same kind of crappy bars and locals with unpronouncable Slavic names (my home town had a few more Italians though). The hunting scenes always amused me because you will not find mountains like the ones in the movie anywhere in PA or WVA. I read they shot the scenes at some national park in Washington.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 05, 2014 10:25 PM (15w2J)

466 Dingdingdingdingding! We have a winner folks!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 06, 2014 02:23 AM (xa1/W)



Yay!

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 10:25 PM (MpP9p)

467 Whad'I win?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2014 02:24 AM (JmGFJ)




A pointy hat and a chair in the corner next to Vice President Biden. Congratulations!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 05, 2014 10:26 PM (xa1/W)

468 Gamblin' Hat: I saw the Heart Attack Grill in Vegas at the far end of The Fremont Street Experience back in 2012. As I recall they used to be in Chandler, Arizona. I know the owner got in trouble for dubbing his short-order cooks "doctors" and the waitresses "nurses." It sounds like an okay/novel concept, I love burgers as much as anybody, and I'm pro-choice as far as how anybody else wants to eat, but I personally doubt I'd ever have a burger there. Posted by: qdpsteve at May 06, 2014 02:14 AM (HVI5a) There is always In N' Out "Animal Style" burgerÂ…

Posted by: The Gamblin' hat in Vegas at May 05, 2014 10:27 PM (K1sEu)

469 Red Square in Mandalay Bay (assuming they're still there) was pretty tasty. Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 02:20 AM (T1005) The headless statue of Lenin is still there (as off 48 hours agoÂ…)

Posted by: The Mandalay Hat at May 05, 2014 10:28 PM (K1sEu)

470 OK, going upthread to read comments. If I'm not back in 3 days...throw a big party to remember me by.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 05, 2014 10:28 PM (xa1/W)

471 Whad'I win?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2014 02:24 AM (JmGFJ)



A pointy hat and a chair in the corner next to Vice President Biden. Congratulations!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 06, 2014 02:26 AM (xa1/W)



And Obamacare for the rest of your life!!!!

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 10:28 PM (MpP9p)

472 A pointy hat and a chair in the corner next to Vice President Biden. Congratulations! Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde ( *Grins, chuckles, points to audience, smirks* ) Now, why do you hate your Grandma, GGE?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 10:29 PM (JmGFJ)

473 Gamblin' Hat, my idea of daring eating at In-N-Out is to order my burger with extra chiles and extra spread. ;-) Now I admit that when it comes to the Mexi food and hot dogs, I'm more adventurous... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:29 PM (HVI5a)

474 >>>Whad'I win?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2014 02:24 AM (JmGFJ)

A pointy hat and a chair in the corner next to Vice President Biden. Congratulations!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 06, 2014 02:26 AM (xa1/W)<<<




It's ok Mr. Cut-loop. I guessed Prince John invented the toilet. I mean, they is named after him.

Whatever... want some of my paste?

Posted by: Joe Biden '16 at May 05, 2014 10:30 PM (T/9Cw)

475 Thanks for the input, guys. I'm going to slap the story up on Amazon sometime this week. I'll let you know when it's up. Very moron friendly.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2014 10:30 PM (ejehg)

476 There is always In N' Out "Animal Style" burgerÂ…

Posted by: The Gamblin' hat in Vegas at May 06, 2014 02:27 AM (K1sEu)



*Am not from the west coast*

*Whatever it is, I want it*

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 10:30 PM (MpP9p)

477 Hmm, will have to check Red Square out. Thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:30 PM (HVI5a)

478 469 Whad'I win?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2014 02:24 AM (JmGFJ)



A pointy hat and a chair in the corner next to Vice President Biden. Congratulations!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 06, 2014 02:26 AM (xa1/W) Hide posts from (xa1/W)



Psssst, 'loop -- if he offers you a pointy hat and a chair next to Robert Byrd, don't take it.....there are unpleasant winged folks with pitchforks in that neighborhood.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 10:30 PM (T1005)

479 Gamblin': extra mustard, extra grilled onions, and (I think) not much of anything else other than meat and bun. I have *two* In-N-Outs within an easy driving distance of me. Gloat gloat gloat... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:31 PM (HVI5a)

480 *Puts in plug*

*Peter's Drive-in located in Calgary.  Burgers, fries, and milkshakes.  I say this as a Calgary-hater who would drive for hours to visit.

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 10:33 PM (MpP9p)

481 Hey Lauren, could always title the anthology It Came From the Horde.

Now that revisions are done, in the morning crank up Photoshop to create book cover image.  Do that.  Go look at story one more time.  Then generate a submission from Scrivener.   Make sure no tricks lurk.  And then like Lauren submit to Amazon.

Night all.  For real this time.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 10:36 PM (mn8eY)

482 481 Gamblin': extra mustard, extra grilled onions, and (I think) not much of anything else other than meat and bun.

I have *two* In-N-Outs within an easy driving distance of me. Gloat gloat gloat... ;-) Posted by: qdpsteve at May 06, 2014 02:31 AM (HVI5a) Hide posts from (HVI5a)


Animal style: mustard grilled into the patty (isn't like mustard applied after), "spread" [Thousand-Island dressing clone], grilled onions, pickles + regular stuff.


I also live within easy driving distance of two In-and-Outs.....and a zillion miles away from a Chik-fil-A in one direction, and a Sonic in the other. ***sigh***

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 10:37 PM (T1005)

483 I'll put in another plug.  Please sign up for the bone marrow donor list at bethematch.org,

Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 10:38 PM (MpP9p)

484 cthulhu: thanks for clearing that up. I also have two Chik-fil-As even closer than the In-N-Outs. Gloat. ;-) Will admit the closest Sonic is a 30-min drive to the OC however. Mini-gloat.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:40 PM (HVI5a)

485 Okay, time to go to bed. Thanks again everyone for the fabulous chat!! Looking forward to Vegas, hope I can make it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 10:44 PM (HVI5a)

486 486 cthulhu: thanks for clearing that up.

I also have two Chik-fil-As even closer than the In-N-Outs. Gloat. ;-)

Will admit the closest Sonic is a 30-min drive to the OC however. Mini-gloat. Posted by: qdpsteve at May 06, 2014 02:40 AM (HVI5a) Hide posts from (HVI5a)


Oh, what we wouldn't have done for a 30-minute drive to a Sonic. Instead, we had to drive 45 minutes, scale a 40-foot cliff over jagged rocks, and crawl on our bellies like a reptile under barbed wire to get our Sonic fix......



And, seriously, it's almost a 30-minute drive to the second In-and-Out....

Posted by: Yorkshireman at May 05, 2014 10:44 PM (T1005)

487 G'evening Horde. Tried out the Carl's Jr Sea Salt and Caramel ice cream malt on today's drive. Liked it a lot - salty & sweet is a great combo, but it also had tiny bits that were crunchy like salt but tasted like caramel. Added a lot to the experience.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 05, 2014 10:52 PM (ioT3q)

488 A local metal band I found in Vegas: Are The Nines still playing around town?

Posted by: garrett at May 05, 2014 10:54 PM (Q/RsZ)

489 Have only been to Sonics twice, and haven't been all that impressed. What am I missing? What menu item is a must have?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 05, 2014 10:55 PM (ioT3q)

490 anybody else getting pop up ads about the great currency bomb on July 1?



WTF?  Is this more crap from the same guys who predicted 37 out of the last 4 downturns or are we really headed for even deeper shit than where we are dog-paddling around now?

Posted by: jc at May 05, 2014 10:56 PM (PlzOe)

491 Vegas: Others have mentioned timeshares. Good idea only if you can wrangle a T-totaler willing to be chauffeur. ( Me, I'd reject that gig. I've seen what you people do to a thread. ) Nee to be aware that some of those rates are based on a time-share sales thing; you need to attend a sale presentation to get the basic rate.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 10:59 PM (JmGFJ)

492 Gamblin' Hat, my idea of daring eating at In-N-Out is to order my burger with extra chiles and extra spread. ;-) Now I admit that when it comes to the Mexi food and hot dogs, I'm more adventurous... ;-) Posted by: qdpsteve at May 06, 2014 02:29 AM (HVI5a) Whatever you wantÂ…

Posted by: The Burger Hat at May 05, 2014 11:01 PM (K1sEu)

493 Back to work. Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 05, 2014 11:01 PM (xa1/W)

494 There is always In N' Out "Animal Style" burgerÂ… Posted by: The Gamblin' hat in Vegas at May 06, 2014 02:27 AM (K1sEu) *Am not from the west coast**Whatever it is, I want it* Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 02:30 AM (MpP9p) Just make sure you order "animal style fries" and a Neopolitan shakeÂ…

Posted by: The Animal Style Hat at May 05, 2014 11:02 PM (K1sEu)

495 I finally got around to reading a linked article about "scientists seen global-warming resistant chickens".



I can't say that it's the stupidest thing I've ever read, but it is far from the most intelligent. Any dumbass looking at a map of USDA Plant Hardiness Zones -- http://tinyurl.com/7r5u267 -- who doesn't get that a FIVE degree change would mean, for instance, that anything you could farm today in the dark green belt (6a) could be farmed after the change in the light blue one (5b) -- is scarcely more intelligent than a plant themselves.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 11:02 PM (T1005)

496 497 I finally got around to reading a linked article about "scientists seen global-warming resistant chickens". I was amused to note that article listed cattle herds as similar casulties, even though those froze to death. I'm gonna guess that these potentially heat-resistant chickens aren't going to be prepared for that sort of weather swing.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 05, 2014 11:07 PM (ioT3q)

497 if you grill a heat-resistant chicken does anything happen?

Posted by: jc at May 05, 2014 11:10 PM (PlzOe)

498 *Peter's Drive-in located in Calgary. Burgers, fries, and milkshakes. I say this as a Calgary-hater who would drive for hours to visit.

Posted by: Vendette at May 06, 2014 02:33 AM (MpP9p)


It's not as good as it used to be. Still a cut above the major fast food chains, though. The original owners sold out to a consortium of lawyers, IIRC. Where the used to have some "special needs" type people working there, now it's fresh-off-the-plane immigrants, mostly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2014 11:11 PM (TKUw7)

499 498 497 I finally got around to reading a linked article about "scientists seen global-warming resistant chickens".


I was amused to note that article listed cattle herds as similar casulties, even though those froze to death.

I'm gonna guess that these potentially heat-resistant chickens aren't going to be prepared for that sort of weather swing. Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 06, 2014 03:07 AM (ioT3q) Hide posts from (ioT3q)



The whole idea that there are bands of temperatures and livestock/crops for each band escapes these idiots.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 11:11 PM (T1005)

500 499 if you grill a heat-resistant chicken does anything happen? I'll never squawk!

Posted by: Chick Bauer at May 05, 2014 11:11 PM (ioT3q)

501 Have only been to Sonics twice, and haven't been all that impressed. What am I missing? What menu item is a must have?

I'm not fond of them either, except their Fresh Lime Slushie when it is hot out.

Posted by: bill-o at May 05, 2014 11:12 PM (7lrbC)

502 503 Have only been to Sonics twice, and haven't been all that impressed. What am I missing? What menu item is a must have?

I'm not fond of them either, except their Fresh Lime Slushie when it is hot out.
Posted by: bill-o at May 06, 2014 03:12 AM (7lrbC) Hide posts from (7lrbC)



Sonic burgers are meh, their hotdogs are innovative [but I don't do dogs], they've got interesting chicken sammiches, they do mozz sticks and onion rings, there's decent breakfasts.....but they kick out the jams on drinks and ice cream stuff. Plus, they still do a drive-though grilled cheese....which is a mark of grace when you're "indisposed".

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 11:23 PM (T1005)

503 I'm creeping up on my annual physical, and it involves a blood test with a 12-hour fast. I also have a dental appointment tomorrow. So I'm making an executive decision to keep drinking and do the blood test on Wednesday.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 11:31 PM (T1005)

504 [but I don't do dogs] Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 03:23 AM (T1005) A little Indonesian spice and I'm sure you'd love themÂ…

Posted by: Barack H. Obama, Canine Cuisine Expert at May 05, 2014 11:33 PM (K1sEu)

505 505 I'm creeping up on my annual physical, and it involves a blood test with a 12-hour fast. I also have a dental appointment tomorrow. So I'm making an executive decision to keep drinking and do the blood test on Wednesday.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 03:31 AM (T1005)


===

with careful timing you have the opportunity to be bug-eyed and bleary-eyed at the same instant.

Posted by: jc at May 05, 2014 11:33 PM (PlzOe)

506 507 505
I'm creeping up on my annual physical, and it involves a blood test with
a 12-hour fast. I also have a dental appointment tomorrow. So I'm
making an executive decision to keep drinking and do the blood test on
Wednesday.


Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 03:31 AM (T1005)

===with careful timing you have the opportunity to be bug-eyed and bleary-eyed at the same instant.
Posted by: jc at May 06, 2014 03:33 AM (PlzOe) Hide posts from (PlzOe)



My last visit to the dentist involved replacing a failed crown without anesthesia. The reason that anesthesia wasn't involved was that I'm extremely phobic about being punctured.....which means that blood tests are a bit traumatic.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 11:39 PM (T1005)

507 [i[I also have a dental appointment tomorrow. So I'm making an executive decision to keep drinking and do the blood test on Wednesday. Posted by: cthulhu[/i] Sounds like a recipe for two days of agony. The phrase "quit while you're ahead," seems oddly appropriate. ( not auditioning for your parents, but you know the pain of putting it off )

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 05, 2014 11:40 PM (JmGFJ)

508 Well, looks like bed won't happen any time soon for me. My younger son woke up with growing pains and can't get back to sleep. *yawn*

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2014 11:45 PM (ejehg)

509 509 [i[I also have a dental appointment tomorrow. So I'm making an executive decision to keep drinking and do the blood test on Wednesday.
Posted by: cthulhu

Sounds like a recipe for two days of agony.

The phrase "quit while you're ahead," seems oddly appropriate.

( not auditioning for your parents, but you know the pain of putting it off ) Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 06, 2014 03:40 AM (JmGFJ) Hide posts from (JmGFJ)



The dental appointment is just a cleaning -- but it's 13:45 from now. If my blood test needs to be more than 12:30 from now (supposed to be 12 hour fast, but put on some cushion), then I'll need to get there, wait for the vampire, get it done, recover, and drive to the dentist in 1:15. It's not worth the -- excuse me -- *glug, glug, glug* -- *ah!* -- just not worth the trouble.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 11:48 PM (T1005)

510 A fart story in the sidebar. Where else are you going to get quality fart stories?

Pull my finger please.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 11:48 PM (nkPV9)

511 Calgary hater? Personally, I dislike Saskatoon.

Posted by: Pekka Rautakallio at May 05, 2014 11:49 PM (Q3tFF)

512 Night all. Here is "Hotter than Hell" by KISS from the Alive album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C0BXd59m0

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 05, 2014 11:52 PM (K1sEu)

513 Posted by: Pekka Rautakallio at May 06, 2014 03:49 AM (Q3tFF)

That name would have more "gravitas" if you put an umlaut over every vowel and make like you are a Soumi.

Everybody loves the Finns.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 11:52 PM (nkPV9)

514 Except for the Swedes.

Posted by: Hakan Loob at May 05, 2014 11:56 PM (Q3tFF)

515 There are exceptions to the rule, always.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 06, 2014 12:03 AM (nkPV9)

516 510 Well, looks like bed won't happen any time soon for me. My younger son woke up with growing pains and can't get back to sleep. *yawn* Posted by: Lauren at May 06, 2014 03:45 AM (ejehg) Hide posts from (ejehg)


Did he really wake up with growing pains, and you noticed?!?!?


There is a serious reason that I'm asking, and it's not just to be an irritant....."old wives' tales" had said for ages that kids have growing pains, are cranky, and then sprout up. Conventional science pooh-poohed this for decades, insisting that growth was a continuous process. I can remember that a landmark paper then noted that DAILY HEIGHT MEASUREMENTS showed that kids could seriously grow 1/2" in height overnight. In the same paper, it noted that previous days to this growth, they slowly gained weight for a while, then turned irritable for a bit right before the spurt.


So it's a source of much amusement to me that potentially every mother noted that scientific consensus on growth was completely out to lunch but the "scientific truth" steamrollered on regardless for decades.


You actually, personally, without a double-blind study, noted your son having growing pains -- without calibrated instruments?


HAHAHA HAHAHaHa HaHahaha hahahaha!!!!!!!!



Good for you!

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 12:05 AM (T1005)

517 [iThere are exceptions to the rule, always. Posted by: GMB (et al) [/i] Those that rely upon exeptions are called 'assholes.' The key to life is to minimize your asshole exposure.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 06, 2014 12:05 AM (JmGFJ)

518 My first thought was to ask if Swedes even counted. Because of their "scandi" status. In the spirit of goodwill and hands across the sea, I let it go.

It's way too early in the morning for a flame war.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 06, 2014 12:09 AM (nkPV9)

519 520 My first thought was to ask if Swedes even counted. Because of their "scandi" status. In the spirit of goodwill and hands across the sea, I let it go.

It's way too early in the morning for a flame war.
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 06, 2014 04:09 AM (nkPV9) Hide posts from (nkPV9)


It's the internet -- it's always time for a flame war.....just not here. Here, you'll get the bum's rush and find yourself on the wrong side of trying to figure out how all that nonstandard Pixy shit works.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 12:14 AM (T1005)

520 "It's the internet -- it's always time for a flame war..." Is that the net equivalent
of "5 o'clock somewhere"?

 

Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 06, 2014 12:17 AM (nkPV9)

521 There are just some people that take things way to seriously. Somebody once called me a booger head on the tubez.

Now that hurt.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 06, 2014 12:18 AM (nkPV9)

522 522 "It's the internet -- it's always time for a flame war..." Is that the net equivalent
of "5 o'clock somewhere"?


Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 06, 2014 04:17 AM (nkPV9) Hide posts from (nkPV9)



Pretty much.

Posted by: cthulhu at May 06, 2014 12:19 AM (T1005)

523 Check out the Sttormfromt contribution on the Riialto Common Core/Holocaus assignmentt thread. He thinks its fine that kids debate whether there really was a Holocaust or whether it was a propaganda tool.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2014 12:46 AM (XyM/Y)

524 Boko Haram-Muslim Extremist group kidnaps 200 girls to sell into sexual slavery. Has out govt said anything about this war on women?? legalinsurrection.com/2014/05/boko-haram-the-real-war-on-women/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2014 12:56 AM (XyM/Y)

525 Michael Walsh from PJ media on "Why Benghazi matters" "Honorable people do not let American diplomats twist slowly in the wind while they attend “debate prep” and rest up for a shakedown meeting with the One Percent. Honorable people do not suddenly go AWOL while American soil is under attack. Honorable people do not fail to mobilize the formidable resources of the American military, even if it might not be possible for them to get there in time. Honorable people, under questioning by Congress, do not lose their temper and start shouting. Honorable people do not look the bereaved in the eye and lie about who and what killed their loved ones. Further: honorable people do not go before the public on the Sunday talk shows and knowingly transmit a bald-faced lie. Honorable people do not continue to lie about what took place. Honorable people do not say “We are Americans; we hold our head high,” and then hang their heads in shame as they cut and run at the first sign of trouble. Honorable people do not continue to reward the dishonorable with ever-higher posts. Honorable people resign. And until honorable people are restored to Washington — not credentialed Ivy League lawyers with high name recognition steeped in cheap Marxism and fashionable anti-American contempt, but genuine patriots who understand that something has gone terribly wrong with America and needs to be redressed — there will be no justice for the victims of Benghazi. As the Left like to say: no justice, no peace."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2014 01:20 AM (XyM/Y)

526 I could go through a list of why Benghazi does not matter. I will boil it down to the simplest fact.

Individual Life has no meaning to the collectivist. It never has and never will. Everything for the state and the state is everything.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 06, 2014 01:25 AM (nkPV9)

527 138 This evening I began watching a series about WW1 and they had some prewar footage of a German warship deck and an officer was bending over petting the (I assume) ship's mascot dachshund whose tail was wagging a mile a minute and he jumped up the officer's body the once he was so happy. (And, no, morons, not 'humping' just 'jumping'.) I hope they didn't end up eating the dog in 1918. Posted by: andycanuck at May 05, 2014 11:28 PM (dUZwp) If you are watching what I think you are watching, that was the Kaiser.

Posted by: Norman Bates at May 06, 2014 02:04 AM (8c12T)

528 To start your day, make sure you get all your vitamins and irony.

http://tinyurl.com/mdfbawr

Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 06, 2014 02:09 AM (nkPV9)

529 Let's hire the kid!  He does not take million dollar vacations and they both have the brains of a two year old.

Posted by: burt at May 06, 2014 02:13 AM (1+kJ5)

530 It could be worse ...

Posted by: Key Lime 3.14159 at May 06, 2014 02:15 AM (yBC4q)

531 “There is not a moment in which God does not present Himself under the cover of some pain to be endured, of some consolation to be enjoyed, or of some duty to be performed. All that takes place within us, around us, or through us, contains and conceals His divine action.” ― Jean-Pierre de Caussade, Abandonment to Divine Providence

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2014 02:15 AM (XyM/Y)

532 "Saving Grace" Upper Room Daily Devotional: http://devotional.upperroom.org/blog/2014/05/matthews050414

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2014 02:20 AM (XyM/Y)

533 Althouse gets ahead of the meme on Benghazi.

Posted by: Rattrays Old Gowrie #4 at May 06, 2014 02:28 AM (+CbIM)

534 FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2014 06:15 AM (XyM/Y) I will ask God's Help in the remembering of that ... Been pretty exhausting lately, so I have sort of forgotten.

Posted by: Adriane... at May 06, 2014 02:32 AM (yBC4q)

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