March 21, 2014
— Ace First of all, the background:
The Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office ran an undercover sting operation over three years that captured leading Philadelphia Democrats, including four members of the city's state House delegation, on tape accepting money, The Inquirer has learned.Yet no one was charged with a crime.
Prosecutors began the sting in 2010 when Republican Tom Corbett was attorney general. After Democrat Kathleen G. Kane took office in 2013, she shut it down.
In a statement to The Inquirer on Friday, Kane called the investigation poorly conceived, badly managed, and tainted by racism, saying it had targeted African Americans.
...
Before Kane ended the investigation, sources familiar with the inquiry said, prosecutors amassed 400 hours of audio and videotape that documented at least four city Democrats taking payments in cash or money orders, and in one case a $2,000 Tiffany bracelet.
Typically, the payments made at any one time were relatively modest - ranging from $500 to $2,000 - but most of those involved accepted multiple payments, people familiar with the investigation said. In some cases, the payments were offered in exchange for votes or contracts, they said.
Sources with knowledge of the sting said the investigation made financial pitches to both Republicans and Democrats, but only Democrats accepted the payments.
...
Sources with knowledge of the sting said Ali approached a wide range of officials, from both parties, black and white. In time, the sources said, Ali didn't even have to reach out to elected officials. They called him.
Tyron B. Ali was a lobbyist who'd been caught in a $430,000 fraud case. Apparently prosecutors recruited him to wear a wire for this investigation. He was connected to the political culture of west Philadelphia, because that's where he'd operated before. That, rather than race, accounts for who he did or didn't contact. (And, apparently, elected officials were calling him, anyway.)
Given this explosive slam-dunk corruption case, Kane chooses to disappear it, and issues a single quote when asked about it: that the case is "nothing more than the Good Ol' Boys club playing political games to discredit me in order to fulfill their own selfish and improper agenda."
And now, via the Ungrateful Loaf of Bread, she seems to be threatening the free press in an effort to cover up her cover up.
During the meeting, Sprague [Kane's new lawyer] suggested that The Inquirer may have been used by the sources of its stories – “wittingly or unwittingly” as a “weapon” to attack Kane to defend themselves from potential charges of wrongdoing in the management of the probe.“I intend to look at the investigation from the very beginning to the conclusion of it, and in terms of what has been published, by this paper and others, to take appropriate action on behalf of the attorney general against those responsible for the defamatory and the false publications that have been made,” Sprague said.
Incredible. Incredible.
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Posted by: fluffy, period at March 21, 2014 07:18 AM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at March 21, 2014 07:18 AM (kbOju)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 07:18 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2014 07:19 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: MTF at March 21, 2014 07:20 AM (F58x4)
The ego, the hubris, the lawlessness of this staggers the mind.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 07:20 AM (rh481)
I hope that she and the others get nailed to the wall, but I can't help the feeling that Holder will step in to cry racism.
Posted by: EC at March 21, 2014 07:21 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 21, 2014 07:21 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 07:22 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Blor-Utar at March 21, 2014 07:22 AM (TTPQv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 07:22 AM (rh481)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 21, 2014 07:23 AM (IXrOn)
Pennsylvania Attorney General Kane Threatens to Sue People If They Continue Reporting That She Dropped Prosecutions of Democrats Caught Taking Bribes
Gee. Why am I not surprised the Dem AG is a frigging woman? No doubt she's a pretentious, self-absorbed, egotistical vaginalogue, too.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:23 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 21, 2014 07:23 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2014 07:24 AM (659DL)
Typically, the payments made at any one time were relatively modest - ranging from $500 to $2,000 - but most of those involved accepted multiple payments, people familiar with the investigation said. In some cases, the payments were offered in exchange for votes or contracts, they said."
So....it was redistribution of wealth? Where's that money now?
Posted by: wytshus at March 21, 2014 07:25 AM (DErq5)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 21, 2014 07:25 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 07:25 AM (rh481)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 21, 2014 07:25 AM (l3vZN)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 21, 2014 11:23 AM (VtjlW)
Is it possible you've told stories about her in the past, my queen?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:25 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 07:26 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2014 11:26 AM (TOk1P)
I nominate AtC for AG! Because that would kick. ASS.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:26 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 07:26 AM (rh481)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 07:26 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 21, 2014 11:23 AM (4df7R)
Bossy too.
Posted by: buzzion at March 21, 2014 07:27 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 21, 2014 07:27 AM (HVff2)
Bossy.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:27 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 07:27 AM (0HooB)
Kane is a democrat hack -- she has done many things to attack her predecessor as AG (the current governor), including trying to tie Sandusky to Corbet by claiming that Corbet personally slowed the investigation.
It is believed by many of us that she also is behind the lawsuit that convinced a judge that it was legal to require a photo id to drive, cash a check, open a bank account, buy certain over the counter medications, get onto an airplane, enter certain state govt buildings etc., but it was unconstitutional to have to prove your identify to vote.
Recall also that it was Philadelphia were no state action was taken on the thugs of color intimidating voters as well as other voting shenanigans have occurred.
Posted by: Mark E at March 21, 2014 07:27 AM (w5RwR)
Posted by: mc at March 21, 2014 07:27 AM (lrfmC)
Posted by: King Henry VI, Shakespeare, act 2 scene 4 at March 21, 2014 07:28 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: drunkineastmesa at March 21, 2014 07:28 AM (l7HsE)
publications that have been made
Is there such a thing as a false publication? Shouldn't it be "false accusations that have been published?"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:29 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 07:29 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Pastorius at March 21, 2014 07:29 AM (gMAUH)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2014 07:29 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at March 21, 2014 07:29 AM (48v2z)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 21, 2014 11:29 AM (4df7R)
"False" = "Damaging to Democrats"
Posted by: Insomniac at March 21, 2014 07:30 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2014 07:30 AM (t3UFN)
42 -
Pennsylvania SHOULD be flipped. Turn over the dirt, and let the worms start voting. They can't do any worse.
At some point people need to stop expecting Ohio and Pennsylvania to save them. It's a losing proposition.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2014 07:30 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: ace at March 21, 2014 07:31 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2014 07:31 AM (t3UFN)
Of course I just have common sense and no law degree so what do I know? Except politicians caught in doing something wrong will try to weasel and cajoloe and browbeat to escape the steel jaws of the trap they stepped in.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 07:31 AM (rh481)
Posted by: footfetishist at March 21, 2014 07:32 AM (HN4m+)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:32 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 21, 2014 07:32 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Jesse Jackson, Jr. at March 21, 2014 07:32 AM (K2XO3)
Posted by: Eric Holder at March 21, 2014 07:33 AM (pJ9S7)
Speaking of Attorney Generals: The newly appointed AG of the Crimea is Natalia Poklonskaya.
bet she's putin out.
Posted by: mc at March 21, 2014 07:33 AM (lrfmC)
"False" = "Damaging to Democrats"
Posted by: Insomniac at March 21, 2014 11:30 AM (DrWcr)
Oh, I know. It just seems like an awkward wording. A publication can't be false, unless it's something that's been written about in fiction and doesn't actually exist, like "The Daily Planet." A publication is a physical thing. The facts and statements WITHIN the publication may be false, but that's different.
I know I'm being pedantic, but this Sprague ass is a lawyer for a lawyer. Maybe pick your words better, wiseacre.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:33 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2014 07:33 AM (659DL)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 07:33 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 21, 2014 07:33 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 21, 2014 07:34 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 07:34 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Hon. Wm Jefferson McHorndog at March 21, 2014 07:34 AM (48v2z)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:34 AM (x3YFz)
http://www.ipmsusa2014.com/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 07:34 AM (rh481)
Speaking of Attorney Generals: The newly appointed AG of the Crimea is Natalia Poklonskaya.
Google her.
Does she possess huge tracts of land?
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2014 07:34 AM (BAS5M)
I do not know Pennsylvania politics, so I am speculating, but I suspect this will not end well for this AG.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 21, 2014 07:34 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 21, 2014 07:34 AM (bc77d)
In last weeks podcast, I believe it was CAC, opined that Pennsylvania can be flipped. This may be wedge issue which may make a difference.
--
The actions of this AG indicate that even if the voters of the state flip, the vote counting will not.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 07:35 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 21, 2014 11:33 AM (4df7R)
I agree with you. Sprague's statement was sloppy.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 21, 2014 07:35 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2014 07:35 AM (t3UFN)
Google her.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2014 11:30 AM (t3UFN)
Whoa, she can investigate me anytime she wants...
Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 07:35 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:35 AM (x3YFz)
Google her.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Hubba hubba, to bad she plays for the other team or I'd invite her over to look at my art collection.
Posted by: Gmac at March 21, 2014 07:35 AM (4pjhs)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 07:36 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2014 07:36 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 07:37 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:37 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 21, 2014 07:37 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2014 07:37 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2014 07:37 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 21, 2014 07:37 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 21, 2014 07:37 AM (Q8vlx)
Expect more of this in the future.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 11:36 AM (ZPrif)
When one side gets a free pass from the supposed watchdogs then they will just keep getting more and more brazen about it.
Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 07:38 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 21, 2014 07:38 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 21, 2014 07:38 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:39 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Millennium at March 21, 2014 07:39 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 07:39 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 21, 2014 07:39 AM (Q8vlx)
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 07:39 AM (DL2i+)
"No I don't want this box put in the cargo hold"
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 07:40 AM (rh481)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 07:40 AM (0HooB)
Is googling a woman in the handbook?
Posted by: Guido at March 21, 2014 07:40 AM (15qFH)
Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Millennium at March 21, 2014 11:39 AM (hHFOx)
Yeah. It's always on the verge of flipping and always goes D.
Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 07:40 AM (RD7QR)
That's just one letter away from Bane.
Coincidence?
...Yeah probably, but whatevs. EVIL!!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:40 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:41 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 07:41 AM (CRyse)
The media will lock steps to prevent their own from being held liable for reporting stuff, because they understand that they might get gored by the ox next.
Posted by: Penfold at March 21, 2014 07:41 AM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 07:41 AM (rh481)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 07:42 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 07:42 AM (ZPrif)
They leave the West behind.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2014 11:40 AM (BAS5M)
Until the cigarettes and vodka catch up with them in middle age. They either age very well, or turn into hag-faced crones. There doesn't seem to be much middle ground.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:42 AM (4df7R)
Wearing a West Philly High jacket is enough, in most cases, to have people intimidated by you.
Posted by: Andrew Beckett at March 21, 2014 07:42 AM (e8kgV)
Pennsylvania Attorney General Kane Threatens to Sue People If They Continue Reporting That She Dropped Prosecutions of Democrats Caught Taking Bribes
Pretty bossy of her.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 21, 2014 07:43 AM (zF6Iw)
That was in reference to the response of the MSM when they didn't cover the Gosnell trial (nasty abortion Doc), they said "it was a local news story".
So I was pointing out what will be said if someone complains they don't mention this on the news.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 07:43 AM (LSDdO)
She tweets a lot about the case.
https://twitter.com/PaAttorneyGen
Um, if she's in the process of suing over all of this, isn't it in her best interest to keep her trap shut? Instead of, y'know, blabbing about it on the Twitters using her official account?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:43 AM (4df7R)
We are well through the looking glass.
Things I fully expect to see in the next three years:
Churches will have their tax-exempt status revoked for not performing gay weddings.
In the federal government (including the military), promotions based on anything other than seniority will be banned.
GPS/tracking devices a la the "Progressive Snapshot" (oh, the irony) will be required on all personal vehicles (not "required," but those who refuse to install them will be taxed heavily).
And that's just a few.
Posted by: Tinfoil Hat or maybe not at March 21, 2014 07:43 AM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 21, 2014 07:43 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Gmac at March 21, 2014 11:35 AM (4pjhs)
Nationality ain't nothin' but a line on a map.
Posted by: Zombie John F. Kennedy at March 21, 2014 07:43 AM (o1CfD)
Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Millennium at March 21, 2014 07:44 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 21, 2014 07:44 AM (HN4m+)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 07:44 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:44 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Drider at March 21, 2014 07:45 AM (/VmYa)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2014 07:45 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 07:45 AM (ZPrif)
If they had balls. The state GOP cowers from each and every ludicrous accusation of racism that the Philly pols throw at them.
Posted by: Biff Boffo at March 21, 2014 07:45 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 21, 2014 07:45 AM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe
So anyone who was black was "coerced" into taking a bribe because of their skin color? The dumbing down of America continues at breakneck speed.
Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 07:45 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at March 21, 2014 07:46 AM (2oU2+)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie/noah/review/689450
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:46 AM (4df7R)
B. Did she stop those cases from going forward?
C. What part of A or B is incorrect Ma'am?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 07:46 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2014 07:46 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: DrDrill at March 21, 2014 07:47 AM (sOFZs)
Posted by: no good deed at March 21, 2014 07:47 AM (vBhbc)
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 21, 2014 07:47 AM (LEEQ+)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2014 07:47 AM (8Fa5Z)
You can if you're a soul sucking atheist Hollywood director.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 07:47 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 21, 2014 07:47 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: DrDrill at March 21, 2014 07:48 AM (sOFZs)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:48 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 21, 2014 07:48 AM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 21, 2014 11:43 AM (naUcP)
Brunettes are just sizzling. Some of the Hispanic chicks out here in AZ are just crazy hot and they know how to package. Wait is that the wife?
*switches to screensaver*
Posted by: Guido at March 21, 2014 07:48 AM (15qFH)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 21, 2014 11:47 AM (8Fa5Z)
FIFY
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:48 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 21, 2014 07:48 AM (naUcP)
They leave the West behind.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2014 11:40 AM (BAS5M)
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Count, you should see the gals here in Poland, holy pierogies! Hawt. And when the sun is out like it was today, even hawter. Im gonna cry now.
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 21, 2014 11:44 AM (HN4m+)
Oooh yeah. More hawt blondes in Poland than anywhere outside of Russia itself.
Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 07:48 AM (RD7QR)
Whoa, whoa there hoss.
You mean Democrat POLITICIAN don't you?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 07:48 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 21, 2014 07:49 AM (dFOie)
And at that press conference to demand that the AG bring forward these baseless charges so they can then exonerate their name in a court of law.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 07:50 AM (rh481)
143: "Best I encountered was a brunette.
English was suspect, but the body language was impeccable..."
I knew a brunette one as well. Definately the hawt. But batshit psycho stalker crazy as well.
But I still remember Mina fondly.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at March 21, 2014 07:50 AM (f6ZLT)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 11:47 AM (LSDdO)
Right? Because the only reason you would choose to make a film about Noah and the Flood would be to make a film about the Biblical story. The only reason you use Noah's story and divorce it from God is so you can shock people into swallowing your bullshit environmentalist message like it's (literally) gospel.
If you wanted to make a film about a massive, world-ending flood that
doesn't include the Biblical elements related to Noah then you make
"Waterworld."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:51 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 07:51 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: Clownf*cker at March 21, 2014 07:51 AM (RQDhf)
Philadelphia
Harrisburg
Pittsburgh
Actually 4 big problems:
Allentown
Philadelphia
Harrisburg
Pittsburgh
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 07:51 AM (LSDdO)
Did she used to go by the stage name of 'Candy'?
Sorry Seamus but strippers are much more likely to live up to a code of ethics than a Democrat politician.
Posted by: Blor-Utar at March 21, 2014 07:51 AM (dQbaM)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:52 AM (x3YFz)
He's been suspended from school for talking about guns. Like... playing with plastic guns.
This shit isn't funny any more.
Posted by: tangonine
I keep reading about stories just like your friend's son. A 5 year old was suspended for making like a gun with his fingers and saying "bang, bang". I personally would love to bitch slap whoever is making these asinine decisions. Oh yes and they vote too.
Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 07:52 AM (G+Wff)
Kane's in over her head as she has been since she walked in to the AG's office. She's a Democrat party hack who was recruited to run and is being told what to do.
The idea that the Inquirer would be used in a story like this is just laughable. Kane's from a small town and obviously doesn't show shit about how big city newspapers operate. She should take Mark Twain's advice and not pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel.
The lead investigator on this case now works for the Philadelphia DA, Seth Williams, who just happens to be a black Democrat. I'm so sure Williams is employing investigators who are racists.
Posted by: rockmom at March 21, 2014 07:53 AM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 21, 2014 07:53 AM (Xhp1L)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 11:40 AM (rh481)
Wings are built to be detachable - +1 to HKM for that - so it might be a bit easier if I don't glue the props on.
Still, schedule-wise I'll be pushing it. I'm also not sure my ego is ready to have my work in the same room as some of those guys. I'm relatively new to the 'insanely-detailed-way-too-Syria-you-guys modeling' and I don't necessarily to display that newness alongside the years of experience.
Irrational, I know, but eh. I'm human.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 21, 2014 07:53 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (eoeps)
Don't say that to them unless you're wearing a cup and can run fast.
Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 07:53 AM (RD7QR)
150: "Most Ukrainians I've known would cut a bitch for getting called "Russian"."
Funny you mention that. We had a house party once where one of the guys brought his Russian gf, and another dude brought a Ukrainian gf.
Smack ended up getting talked, and broken bottles got pulled. Russian girl that was starting the shit did end up getting cut. I spent two days cleaning the linoleum.
Thereafter I had to institute a strict segregation and scheduling policy for any parties at my house to keep the Russians and Ukrainians as well as the Koreans and Filipinas seperated.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at March 21, 2014 07:53 AM (Kh+vp)
Actually 3 big problems:
Philadelphia
Harrisburg
Pittsburgh
Actually 4 big problems:
Allentown
Philadelphia
Harrisburg
Pittsburgh
Don't forget Erie and Reading. Scranton, too, birthplace of Slow Joe.
Intercourse and Bird-In-Hand are safely red.
Posted by: Biff Boffo at March 21, 2014 07:53 AM (YmPwQ)
Cheri?
I've maintained for a long time America's collective IQ has dropped 40 or 50 points since the Clinton era. Public school and pop "culture" did it, mostly.
Posted by: backhoe at March 21, 2014 07:53 AM (ULH4o)
Especially as the demographic tidal wave of south of the border Hispanic immigration to the States continues.
Here's a neat but depressing experiment. Go take a look at the Transparency International world map of corruption on TI's web site. Start at the southern border of the U.S. and scroll further south.
With the partial exception of Chile, the entire Hispanophone bloc down there is one enormous toilet bowl of rampant graft and bribery. Our future. Si se puede!
Posted by: torquewrench at March 21, 2014 07:54 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:55 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: rockmom at March 21, 2014 07:55 AM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 07:55 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 21, 2014 07:55 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: Mindy at March 21, 2014 07:56 AM (Ew9Pv)
PHILADELPHIA (CBS) – Chris Stigall talked to former CBS News Reporter Sharyl Attkisson this morning on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT about the trouble reporters have to deal with while covering politicians and the government, as well as the current state of investigative reporting.
Responding to comments regarding a Phoenix television reporter yesterday who initially claimed that the White House pre-screens questions from reporters, Attkisson said, “I wouldn’t surprised if sometimes there is that level of cooperation with some questions. If I need something answered from the White House and they won’t tell me, I’ll call our White House Correspondent. They’re friendlier with the White House Correspondents in general. So the White House Correspondent may ask Jay Carney or one of his folks about an issue and they will be told ‘ask that at the briefing and we’ll answer it.’ They want to answer it in front of everybody. They do know it’s coming and they’ll call on you. There’s that kind of coordination sometimes. I wouldn’t be shocked if there’s sometimes more coordination. I don’t think it’s everybody on every briefing, every day. I’m pretty sure it’s not. But I think people would be surprised at the level of cooperation reporters have in general with politicians.”
Oh Sharyl, no we wouldn't. Maybe those on the left would, but us on the right? Not at all.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 07:56 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 07:56 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: rickl at March 21, 2014 07:56 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 07:57 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at March 21, 2014 07:57 AM (p/bSX)
Posted by: ejo at March 21, 2014 07:57 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 21, 2014 07:57 AM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 21, 2014 07:57 AM (XO6WW)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 07:58 AM (0HooB)
Wait, what?
I am a longtime observer of interethnic clashes here in Commiefornia (an accelerating phenomenon) but I haven't ever run into bad blood between Koreans and Filipinos. Perhaps I'm just not clued in. What is the catalyst?
Nevertheless I can imagine that if those two groups kicked off, the resulting fight would be truly terrific.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 21, 2014 07:58 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 21, 2014 11:57 AM (ojnk6)
Oh fergodsakes. Which aspect of "Democrat who donates to Democrats and disrespects soldiers" is difficult for them?
Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 07:58 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 07:59 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2014 07:59 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 21, 2014 07:59 AM (XO6WW)
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 21, 2014 07:59 AM (LEEQ+)
Nevertheless I can imagine that if those two groups kicked off, the resulting fight would be truly terrific.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 21, 2014 11:58 AM (noWW6)
Tae Kwon Do vs. Kali? That would be fuckin' epic!
Posted by: Insomniac at March 21, 2014 08:00 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 21, 2014 11:59 AM (LEEQ+)
[Making notes] And about where in the movie is that? Exact time, please.
Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 08:01 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 21, 2014 08:01 AM (HN4m+)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 21, 2014 08:01 AM (tmFlQ)
that's the f*ckin point here
Posted by: the sound of one hand clapping at March 21, 2014 08:01 AM (omBWL)
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I really need to update my Mr. Skin subscription.
Posted by: Biff Boffo at March 21, 2014 08:02 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2014 08:02 AM (oFCZn)
Google her.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 21, 2014 11:30 AM (t3UFN)
Wow. As tempted as I am at times to join the Kill All Lawyers caucus, a good look at Miss Natalia there disabuses me of that notion. Now excuse me while I go abuse myself. Repeatedly.
Posted by: mugiwara at March 21, 2014 08:02 AM (W7ffl)
Two out of three ain't bad.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 21, 2014 08:03 AM (kxSZr)
doesn't include the Biblical elements related to Noah then you make
"Waterworld."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (4df7R)
If it gets out that God is not in Noah, then they will probably wind up hoping and praying for as much success as Waterworld.
And then they will scream, "See religious movies don't make money!" while ignoring that they removed all religion from the film.
Posted by: buzzion at March 21, 2014 08:03 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning... at March 21, 2014 08:03 AM (1Y+hH)
Worked for Hillary's campaign. She's a version of Lois Lerner, committed to the program to stomp Republicans however and wherever.
Univ of Scranton, Temple Law. Not a brainiac. Just another libtard pol.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 21, 2014 12:01 PM (tmFlQ)
Yes, and Joe Biden can tell you about all the geniuses from Scranton.
Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 08:03 AM (RD7QR)
http://tinyurl.com/m6cmt9o
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 21, 2014 08:03 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 21, 2014 08:04 AM (ojnk6)
Merkel says Cold War over as 21st century rules take over
Bloomberg: http://bloom.bg/1iKASHk
German Chancellor Angela Merkel said sheÂ’s moved on from the Cold War as she upbraided Russia for refusing to play by 21st-century diplomatic rules.
Merkel, the countryÂ’s first chancellor from the former Communist East Germany, speaks Russian and has telephoned with President Vladimir Putin regularly since Russia moved to seize Crimea to urge him to back down.
“Fortunately, I like the rest of us have been able to leave the Cold War behind me,” Merkel told reporters in Brussels today when asked about her view of a renewal of the east-west divide. “I also think that history doesn’t easily repeat itself.” ...
Really, Angela? You really think that? REALLY?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 08:05 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Hamilton at March 21, 2014 08:05 AM (oMYHY)
Posted by: BossyBodine at March 21, 2014 08:05 AM (2LJqa)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 08:06 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 21, 2014 08:06 AM (LEEQ+)
187: "I am a longtime observer of interethnic clashes here in Commiefornia (an accelerating phenomenon) but I haven't ever run into bad blood between Koreans and Filipinos. Perhaps I'm just not clued in. What is the catalyst?"
Juicey girls in Korea. The Korean girls tended to be mean spirited and bitchy, as well as plumper. The Filipinas tended to steal their boyfriends and customers. Cat fights ensued.
Eventually, the Korean economy picked up enought that the Korean juiceys weren;t making enough money from the GIs, and so they went elsewhere for the most part. Only a few who couldn't make it elsewhere remained. They were replaced by the Russians and Ukrainians. To many a GI's delight.
Each ethnic group imagined themselves to be at the top. Arguments on the correctness of the opposing faction's assertion has led to many a... "disagreement".
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at March 21, 2014 08:06 AM (LJpVo)
That's where I'd start, though if it starts with something else, like the EPA or the IRS, I'll be more than happy to start there as well. Just so long as we don't leave a government institution controlled by these assholes left unchallenged.
We simply can't give these assholes any leeway whatsoever. We need to bring the hammer down on them now and continue to bring it down on them.
Posted by: Blor-Utar at March 21, 2014 08:07 AM (dQbaM)
I have known a few modellers who have looked at the Gunpla stuff for Gundam then go 'no way can I build to that level!' and just quit.
Also I get that feeling when it comes to letting others look at my writing. Thoughts of how horrible it all is runs rampant in my mind as I nervously do so.
Some of the model builders are truly OCD scary in detail level. I stop myself by going, will anyone else see that I have run the rudder cables? There comes a point where its insane and one has to stop. And no did not install the rudder cables.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 08:07 AM (rh481)
This is the quote from the Hollywood Reporter review I linked above (emphasis mine):
"The narrative of the global flood that wiped out almost all earthly life is the original disaster story, one that's embraced by most of the major world religions, which means that conservative and literal-minded elements of all faiths who make it their business to be offended by untraditional renditions of holy texts will find plenty to fulminate about here. Already banned in some Middle Eastern countries, Noah will rile some for the complete omission of the name “God” from the dialogue, others for its numerous dramatic fabrications and still more for its heavy-handed ecological doomsday messages, which unmistakably mark it as a product of its time. But whether you buy these elements or not, this is still an arresting piece of filmmaking that has a shot at capturing a large international audience both for its fantasy-style spectacle and its fresh look at an elemental Bible story most often presented as a kiddie yarn."
I just... So it's a Bible story, but completely ignores the Bible's story. Okay.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 08:08 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:08 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: Damiano at March 21, 2014 08:08 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2014 08:09 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 12:08 PM (1EJ2w)/i]
Ouch! How bad?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 08:10 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:10 AM (1EJ2w)
#210 exactly. The Inquirer even endorsed Debo Adegbile as assistant AG, even after Bob Casey announced his opposition. If there were any hint of racism, in that investigation, the Inquirer would have made THAT the story and made Kane out to be a hero for quashing it.
The editorial page is hopelessly liberal, but there are some really good journalists there including the reporters who broke this story. I follow some of them on Twitter and have even fed them some stories from time to time. I think they are all pretty fed up with the corruption of Philadelphia politicians.
Posted by: rockmom at March 21, 2014 08:10 AM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 21, 2014 08:10 AM (Xq2WY)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2014 08:11 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Damiano at March 21, 2014 12:08 PM (j0wOO)
Sure, why not. I haven't been knifed in years.*
*Well, not ever, but you get the point.
Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 08:11 AM (RD7QR)
Merkel's an idiot.
She opted to mothball all of Germany's nuclear power after Fukushima (because as we all know, tsunamis are an ever-present risk in northern Europe).
For public consumption, the _Energiewende_ conversion to "green, renewable" power was supposed to fill the gap. In reality, Germany's green power push has been an extremely expensive flop.
Merkel is an able enough analyst to realize that green power isn't a viable thing, but is also a savvy enough politician not to say so in public. (The "green" malarkey is still popular with the German voters.)
So her plan has been to talk constantly about green power, while quietly behind the scenes making sure that there's adequate fossil fuel power so that German heavy industry does not grind to a halt.
Unfortunately, that then leaves Germany in a situation where Russia becomes the vital swing supplier for fossil fuel energy. So Putin can now do whatever the fuck he wants, and Merkel can't really do anything more than issue sternly worded communiques.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 21, 2014 08:12 AM (noWW6)
Anna - yes. All of that is true. It's a question of getting 'rational thought' to override 'irrational ego and emotion.'
I manage quite easily when it comes to my politics, so I'll get there with this too.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 21, 2014 08:12 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:12 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: Biff Boffo at March 21, 2014 11:53 AM (YmPwQ) [/]
Red Intercourse. Might you have a news circular for me to distribute to workers?
Posted by: Josef Stalin at March 21, 2014 08:13 AM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Ron Stanford at March 21, 2014 08:14 AM (Em6d4)
How good are you with a needle and thread? /jk but sorta serious
They make special bandages that can help also.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 08:14 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Dan at March 21, 2014 08:14 AM (COpZ4)
Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning... at March 21, 2014 08:14 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:14 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 12:12 PM (1EJ2w)
DAMN. *wince* My father once sliced his thumb open all the way to the bone with a carpet knife, so I can just imagine what a brick saw would do to an arm! *WINCE WINCE WINCE*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 08:14 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:15 AM (CRyse)
I'm his employer. There is no workman's comp for the self employed.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 12:10 PM (1EJ2w)
He should sue you for every penny you've got and ever will make from here to eternity.
Posted by: Typical Lib Gut Reaction at March 21, 2014 08:15 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:16 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:16 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2014 08:16 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 21, 2014 08:16 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:17 AM (x3YFz)
packing to stop the bleeding.
There are special butterfly bandages that can act as sutures for a small wound. (he might be possible depending on where it is. If it's where there's little flexing and twisting.)
And actually some fishing line and a needle can be used to pull the wound together so it heals.
Don't seal it up from the air. Let it breathe and let it drain.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 08:17 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:17 AM (1EJ2w)
I can't say this enough:
In the glorious new era of Obamacare, any sensible person needs to figure out who the doctors are in their area who will accept them as cash patients. Note: it's really for the best if you make these inquiries _before_ you fall sick or get hurt.
In my experience, some practices just aren't set up for cash and are bewildered to be asked.
But others are totally delighted to have cash offered. For them actually to get paid -- on time -- without hassles -- without haggling over "usual and customary" -- and without having to maintain a backroom clerical staff to process stupid insurance shit -- is an enormous economic win. Margins in medical practices are not as large as is commonly assumed.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 21, 2014 08:18 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:18 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 08:19 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:19 AM (x3YFz)
"The Wire" was a real eye-opener for me. A must watch even though it's a bit dated.
Posted by: Erik L at March 21, 2014 08:19 AM (RYQAM)
NRO has also been doing a fantastic job with original investigative reporting covering union corruption in PA and how it intertwines with PA politics. Jillian Melchior and Eliana Johnson are great.
They linked to a story last week from a Watchdog story showing that a crucial PA Senate seat (GOP retiring) in Delaware County is likely to go to a guy that's a union official who's taken donations from the recently indicted Ironworker's Union and refuses to give it back. There are other Dems running in the same situation. No coverage in the Inky or Delco papers but I keep trying.
Posted by: BossyBodine at March 21, 2014 08:19 AM (2LJqa)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:19 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 08:19 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: Bossypants at March 21, 2014 08:20 AM (Cs9Ps)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:21 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 08:21 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Lauren at March 21, 2014 08:21 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 21, 2014 08:21 AM (BhGVB)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:22 AM (1EJ2w)
http://www.arcair.com/Fea1/901-1000/Fea967_Devastator_Hui/00.shtm
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 08:22 AM (rh481)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 08:23 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:23 AM (1EJ2w)
You're not helping.
Wait. I hear the gunny calling you better get going.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 08:23 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 08:23 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: League of Filipina Danger Women at March 21, 2014 08:24 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Lauren at March 21, 2014 08:24 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 08:24 AM (eoeps)
262: "I maintain Filipinas are the most dangerous women in the world."
My wife and her ice pick would corroborate this statement.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at March 21, 2014 08:24 AM (/qzu7)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:24 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 12:23 PM (1EJ2w)
Don't let him move it around too much or he's liable to start bleeding again.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 08:25 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at March 21, 2014 08:25 AM (5xmd7)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:25 AM (x3YFz)
DG, don't forget to kiss his boo boo.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2014 08:25 AM (BAS5M)
You keep using this word "Incredible"; I do not think it means what you think it means.........
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at March 21, 2014 08:26 AM (lQCe+)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:26 AM (CRyse)
Always treat women right, but be especially sure with the Filipina; maybe lots of random gifts of flowers and chocolates.
Posted by: Clownf*cker at March 21, 2014 08:26 AM (W2YA6)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:26 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:26 AM (CRyse)
*headdesk*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 08:27 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 08:27 AM (GSIDW)
Super glue as sold in retail stores is not the same chemistry as actual medical superglue.
If I were in a pinch, away from care, and it was mandatory to close a wound in a hurry, I would use the ordinary superglue. But I would also be really extremely careful about cleaning and disinfecting and debriding the injury before gluing it shut.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 21, 2014 08:27 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 21, 2014 08:27 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 08:28 AM (rh481)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 21, 2014 12:27 PM (4df7R)
Perhaps a link to a fuzzy cutie would cheer MWR up?
Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 08:28 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty
While only a few are persuadable the audience, if there is one, make the audience your ally. If so, don't argue. Ask questions. With a smile.
IF you ask them pointed questions, they'll put up their defenses and it becomes an argument.
If you ask them questions about potential results or how they arrive at their opinion, they invariably engage in hand-waving. Play innocent carefully; it can't be too obvious or you're back to arguing.
The trick is to back them into a corner where they have little to no knowledge of the subject and them get them to admit ignorance.
"You said you don't have the information but you're sure that policy is the only one. Why is that?"
Let them act like the raging zealot and make them follow you down a hole of questions.
You're right, don't argue. Let them fuck their own arguments up.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 21, 2014 08:28 AM (twp4I)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:29 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 08:29 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 08:29 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 21, 2014 08:29 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:30 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 21, 2014 08:30 AM (CTCNK)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 08:30 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:30 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: Lauren at March 21, 2014 08:30 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 08:30 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 21, 2014 08:31 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Vlad Putin at March 21, 2014 08:31 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 08:31 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 21, 2014 08:31 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:31 AM (x3YFz)
282: "I know a Filipina that stabbed the shit out of her husbands car for stepping out on her. With a knife. Through the hood and fenders."
Wife and I were out at a club in Okinawa one night, and some jarhead was voicing some rather unfortuante assumptions.
Wife flung an ashtray like a frisbee over about 30 feet and clocked said fool in the noggin. Club owner's took our side and covered shit up when the JPs came.
The fool had to explain to his Gunny how he got stiches in his head and a ride to post from the JPs. Wish I could have witnessed that exchange.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at March 21, 2014 08:33 AM (f6ZLT)
Posted by: Kathleen G. Kane at March 21, 2014 08:33 AM (T+Zre)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:33 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: Vlad Putin at March 21, 2014 08:33 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Jeff Strongman at March 21, 2014 08:33 AM (WCnJW)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 21, 2014 08:34 AM (BhGVB)
Let it breathe and let it drain.
Sealing a wound seals in the bacteria (yes even with antibiotics taken) and it will fester.
Very deep wounds need to drain sealing them also raises the pressure around the wound and inhibits healing.
stitch it or bandage it and change the dressing often (no more than a few hours at first between changes) letting any pus and foreign matter a way to get out. Then clean and rebandage.
At any sign of red streaks radiating towards the body or intense pain or discoloration GET TO A HOSPITAL OR CLINIC.
Keep it clean and keep it drained. When it lessens in swelling and is less red, you're on the road to recovery but keep a close eye on it.
This is back woods medicine (ymmv) and it isn't like how they practice wound care in a hospital. But it works.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 08:34 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 08:34 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:35 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 08:35 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 08:35 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 08:36 AM (g4TxM)
Urgent Care Josey Wales Style:
"Anyone gets hit, sing out. Slap iron to it. It's the fastest way to stop the blood."
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2014 08:36 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: kbdabear at March 21, 2014 08:36 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Hibernian Faithful at March 21, 2014 08:36 AM (hkqLS)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:36 AM (1EJ2w)
If You like your corruption, You can keep your corruption.
This is one Democrat Promise that has been fulfilled.
Posted by: rd at March 21, 2014 08:36 AM (D+lxs)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:36 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 08:37 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:37 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 21, 2014 08:37 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 08:38 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 08:38 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 21, 2014 08:38 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: Vlad Putin at March 21, 2014 08:39 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:39 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:39 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 08:40 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Granny Hawkins at March 21, 2014 08:40 AM (EaEMG)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 08:40 AM (LSDdO)
I got that once as a teen - red streak radiating up from a bug bite in my foot midway up the calf.
Dr almost freaked out when I finally went into the clinic. Luckily antibiotics cleared it up.
--
I got it on my hand, travelled to the armpit before I went in. I think that is the only time I have gotten stitches, as they had to open up my hand to clean it.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 08:40 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 08:40 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 08:40 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 21, 2014 08:40 AM (naUcP)
If he keeps it open, the flies will take care of that.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 08:41 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 21, 2014 08:41 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 21, 2014 08:41 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Your favorite network news babbling idiot at March 21, 2014 08:41 AM (1mtKP)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:41 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:41 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:41 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: Separate but Stupid at March 21, 2014 08:42 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 21, 2014 08:42 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:42 AM (CRyse)
Jebus, and I thought I was weird for watching Josie Wales so many times.
I guess thats why they call us civilized, cause we're easy to sneak up on....
Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 08:43 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:43 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 21, 2014 08:43 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 08:43 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 08:43 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 08:43 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 21, 2014 08:44 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 08:44 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:44 AM (1EJ2w)
Unless you've just took some good stuff off the cooker and it's cooled down then you can use some of that.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 08:44 AM (LSDdO)
Then, apply either leeches or maggots to clean out the necrotic tissue. I'm not sure which, I missed that day in Med School.
--
University of Rangoon?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 08:44 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 08:44 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:44 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 21, 2014 08:44 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 21, 2014 08:45 AM (r7mtu)
That's not as dumb as you may think. (well maybe)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 08:45 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:45 AM (1EJ2w)
Now we are Hordesourcing emergency medical care.
No way this ends well.
But it will be fun to watch.
Maybe even PPV.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 21, 2014 08:45 AM (si68n)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:45 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:45 AM (x3YFz)
That's the Vladimir in him coming out.
Vlad the Impaler that is.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 08:46 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 21, 2014 08:46 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 21, 2014 08:46 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Carpetbagger at March 21, 2014 08:46 AM (EaEMG)
Hmmm, I think that sentence is about to "trigger" a negative reaction in me. Good thing I am a Conservative Christian and not one of the Democrat's pet demographic groups, otherwise there might just be trouble.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 21, 2014 08:46 AM (TM1p8)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
80 proof vodka is apprx 40% alchohol. You really need a higher proof for deep cuts. Also those flavored vodkas are right out.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 21, 2014 08:47 AM (twp4I)
Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 08:47 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 08:47 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Lauren at March 21, 2014 08:47 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:47 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 21, 2014 08:47 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at March 21, 2014 08:47 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 21, 2014 08:48 AM (Xhp1L)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 21, 2014 08:48 AM (ojnk6)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:48 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: kbdabear at March 21, 2014 08:48 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:48 AM (1EJ2w)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:49 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 21, 2014 08:49 AM (xmcEQ)
Saw a show the other day on drug addicts in Puerto Rico. Apparently they like to shoot heroin direction into their open festering abscessed wounds.
Why?
You know why.
Because just when you think humans can't sink any lower.....
Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2014 08:49 AM (TOk1P)
Speaking of the corrupt and stupid.......Geraldo has now given the world his opinion of what happened to the missing Malaysian aircraft. He thinks it was landed somewhere to pick up an important "Super Secret Passenger" and took off again.
Seriously, after the bank vault fiasco he should have been shunned and never heard of again.
Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 08:49 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:50 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Separate but Stupid at March 21, 2014 08:50 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 21, 2014 08:50 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 08:50 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 08:51 AM (GSIDW)
Jon Mayer? He sues because he thinks he is someone super special, his ego demands he extracts a pound of flesh even if the action reveals truths that make him look the fool.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 08:52 AM (rh481)
Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 08:52 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 08:52 AM (1EJ2w)
388 -
Not the same zombie universe, but I believe the guy who wrote the World War Z books had an answer for that.
Something to the effect that bugs and maggots know better.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 21, 2014 08:52 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:52 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 21, 2014 08:52 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 08:53 AM (rh481)
Posted by: BossyBodine at March 21, 2014 08:53 AM (2LJqa)
Posted by: Separate but Stupid at March 21, 2014 08:53 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 08:53 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:53 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:53 AM (x3YFz)
Check with the Malaysian government.
They may have a Witchdoctor or two wandering around.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 21, 2014 08:53 AM (si68n)
Posted by: Jrr at March 21, 2014 08:54 AM (BdVar)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 08:55 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 21, 2014 08:55 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 21, 2014 08:56 AM (0YWG9)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:56 AM (x3YFz)
I should have joined HPD
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 21, 2014 12:56 PM (0YWG9)
Isn't HPD something you catch from banging hookers?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 21, 2014 08:57 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: john mccain at March 21, 2014 08:57 AM (yHNe/)
Posted by: RWC at March 21, 2014 08:57 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 08:57 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 21, 2014 08:58 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 08:58 AM (x3YFz)
Big Realty is also all in on Hagan. Pouring money into her coffers.
Of course, the Democrats are "the party of the little people" and the GOP is "the party of big business". Snort.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 21, 2014 08:58 AM (noWW6)
x
PALM
"Michelle Obama: It's very rare that I have the chance to travel outside of the United States"
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 21, 2014 08:58 AM (twp4I)
Careful when you open that vault. Jimmy Hoffa and the Ark of the Covenant are in there. Some faces might get melted/shot off.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 21, 2014 08:58 AM (TM1p8)
To Have and Have Not. Dr H. Bogart, presiding.
You ever been stung by a dead bee?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 21, 2014 08:59 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 21, 2014 08:59 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 09:00 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 21, 2014 09:00 AM (aDwsi)
"Michelle Obama: It's very rare that I have the chance to travel outside of the United States"
Delusional, fatassed and stupid is no way to go through life.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 21, 2014 09:00 AM (DrWcr)
"Rubbing, ya goob!!!"
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 21, 2014 12:36 PM (1EJ2w)
I am at the same time amused at the fact you have to ask and horrified at his answer.
So DangerGirl is getting medical advice from drunken and sarcastic Horde People.
Prayers for you and your husband DG.
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 21, 2014 12:38 PM (LKJt3)
I find your lack of faith...disturbing...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 21, 2014 09:00 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: RWC at March 21, 2014 09:00 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 09:00 AM (0HooB)
Tyron Ali (I'm going to take a chance here and guess he's Black)
is out offering money to whoever he can contact.
I'm guessing that in Tyron's little circle of friends, there aren't too many white (and most likely Republican) folks.
Because of his matching color these folks thought everything was cool and there would be no comebacks as Tyron was just helping out a brother (or sister).
Kathleen figures that's all entrapment or some shit. Because there was no tit for tat no quid pro quo no gimme dis I'll give you dat.
See? Makes sense to me. Hey if Eric can cut loose a couple of evil looking brothers with sticks, hanging out in front of a polling place; who is she to disrespect the culture?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 09:01 AM (LSDdO)
Adam and Eve.
They get cast out of the garden of Eden by the HOA because the evil republican tricks Eve into not recycling properly.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 21, 2014 09:01 AM (si68n)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 21, 2014 09:02 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 09:02 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 09:03 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 09:03 AM (CRyse)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 09:03 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 21, 2014 09:04 AM (aDwsi)
Ferdinand Marcos did the same thing for his political cronies. My dad found a crate of Rolex watches in Malacanang Palace after Marcos was deposed. No he didn't keep any.
Howard Hughes used to give a nice diamond ring to all the little debutantes he was screwing; pretending his intentions of marriage.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 21, 2014 09:04 AM (P7Wsr)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 21, 2014 09:04 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 21, 2014 09:05 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 21, 2014 09:05 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Granny Clampett at March 21, 2014 09:05 AM (y+t/O)
They should've thrown him into the vault and rebricked it up.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 09:06 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 21, 2014 12:50 PM (g4TxM)
http://youtu.be/cmjrTcYMqBM
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 21, 2014 09:07 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: NativeNH at March 21, 2014 09:08 AM (Q3hKm)
Posted by: Any Dem at March 21, 2014 09:08 AM (+Wvn3)
Posted by: Boss Tweed at March 21, 2014 09:11 AM (y+t/O)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 21, 2014 09:18 AM (naUcP)
She also stated that she'll never enforce the gay marriage law. It must be nice to pick and choose the laws that you've been duly elected to enforce.
For those who think PA will flip back to red one day - keep dreaming. We've had too many progs move here, infecting us with higher taxes and stupid laws. They fled NYC for lower taxes and better living, yet have ruined northeastern and central eastern PA by demanding they have the same access to what they left behind - big houses, more shopping, etc. Well, that comes with a price and now we're the ones paying for it.
Yes, I'm bitter. How could you tell?
Posted by: PSUbrat at March 21, 2014 09:19 AM (+YdiO)
Posted by: Erowmero at March 21, 2014 09:23 AM (1gcFZ)
I thought the threat was that one day the Democrats would go full Communist. I never imagined they'd go full Peronist, but here we are.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at March 21, 2014 09:25 AM (WtVhX)
Posted by: Iblis at March 21, 2014 09:27 AM (zCnVx)
But just threatening people and saying "men are picking on me!" pretty much proves it was corruption. She's not even trying to defend the decisions.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 21, 2014 09:30 AM (zfY+H)
Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at March 21, 2014 09:33 AM (4jAc3)
Posted by: Your typical non-racist Democrat at March 21, 2014 10:27 AM (dvRYt)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at March 21, 2014 10:40 AM (1hM1d)
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