February 20, 2014

Perry 2016?
— Ace

He's visiting Iowa.

Posted by: Ace at 10:57 AM | Comments (500)
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1 What?

Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 20, 2014 10:59 AM (GgPam)

2 First rule of 2016 is to remember a list of three things

Posted by: I'm Rick Perry, bitch at February 20, 2014 10:59 AM (Q6pxP)

3 I don't think it's going to work out for Perry.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 10:59 AM (/o+xv)

4 Dept of Energy


Dept of Education


Dept of Interior




Memorize this!

Posted by: EC at February 20, 2014 10:59 AM (GQ8sn)

5 You know who this benefits?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2014 10:59 AM (YbyjT)

6 He's visiting Iowa. Why do we have to make everything political? He might just be visiting some tourist attraction there, or a relative or something.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 10:59 AM (4+AaH)

7 Oh dear sweet merciful heavens, here we go. Look. I'm all in for SMOD/Yellowstone Caldera. All y'all are just RINO wussies if your ticket is otherwise.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 10:59 AM (VtjlW)

8 Rules 2 and 3, I haven't committed to memory yet

Posted by: I'm Rick Perry, bitch at February 20, 2014 11:00 AM (Q6pxP)

9 Hey! Someone confiscate his pain meds.. quick!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 20, 2014 11:00 AM (Z7PrM)

10 Too bad it can't be a Cruz / Perry ticket

Posted by: phreshone at February 20, 2014 11:00 AM (Q6pxP)

11 Dammit, now you're just piling on, Ace.

Posted by: jakeman at February 20, 2014 11:00 AM (vH4YP)

12 Didya ever think maybe he just wants some corn?  Don't read too much into this, Ace.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 20, 2014 11:00 AM (Z7PrM)

13
*Grrrrr* *froths at mouth*

Posted by: Michelle Malkin

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 20, 2014 11:01 AM (kdS6q)

14 Gig 'Em!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at February 20, 2014 11:01 AM (PZ6/M)

15

I love a man who wears glasses...

 

 

(stolen from Marilyn Monroe's     "Some Like     It Hot" character)...and it applies to me too.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 20, 2014 11:01 AM (LhAqq)

16 This guy needs to learn when to quit.

Posted by: Mitt at February 20, 2014 11:01 AM (FbMva)

17
...because who the hell would ever want the country to work like Texas?

Seriously.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 11:01 AM (BZAd3)

18 Rick Perry's run for the Republican nomination in 2012  is the story of Julia.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 20, 2014 11:01 AM (GgPam)

19 He's visiting Iowa. That's kind of corny.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 11:02 AM (0FSuD)

20 Perry?  Maybe I shouldn't be knocking Chris Christie out of contention yet....

Posted by: Chris Hayes at February 20, 2014 11:02 AM (Q6pxP)

21 I stand by my prior endorsement.

Posted by: Andy at February 20, 2014 11:02 AM (bxKJf)

22 Do we have to wait to 200? Can I start now?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 11:02 AM (VtjlW)

23 OT. The Senate is going to have an expert testify on the situation in Congo. Ben Affleck. Seriously, . Good lord.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 11:02 AM (/o+xv)

24 *frantically searches for his glasses*

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 20, 2014 11:02 AM (Z7PrM)

25 ugh

Posted by: brak at February 20, 2014 11:02 AM (iEoiA)

26 Rick Perry's run for the Republican nomination in 2012 is the story of Julia.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 20, 2014 03:01 PM (GgPam)


The story of Julia is, in many ways, the story of Obama.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at February 20, 2014 11:02 AM (9LuAk)

27 The frogs are talking frog at the ceremony. How nice for them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 11:03 AM (0FSuD)

28 "Look. I'm all in for SMOD/Yellowstone Caldera. All y'all are just RINO wussies if your ticket is otherwise." If you're not including Planet Destroying Gamma Ray Burst, you're just treading water. Then again, that could just increase the number of Hulks on the planet, which might not be a bad thing.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2014 11:03 AM (YbyjT)

29
He might just be visiting some tourist attraction there
Posted by: blaster



We Fest.  The guys from Iowa used to go on endlessly about the 8th Wonder that is We Fest.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 20, 2014 11:03 AM (kdS6q)

30 shrug, i just want the best person for america to win. walker walker WALKER. pulls every ones hair.

Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 11:03 AM (nqBYe)

31 AlextheChick,
I wanna root for SMOD, I really do, but after his total failure to even show up in 2012 . . .

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at February 20, 2014 11:03 AM (ZMzpb)

32 It's not like there's any real industry to steal from Iowa

Posted by: I'm Rick Perry, bitch at February 20, 2014 11:03 AM (Q6pxP)

33 23 OT. The Senate is going to have an expert testify on the situation in Congo. Ben Affleck. Seriously, . Good lord.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 03:02 PM (/o+xv)

 


It's because the current conga champion was not available.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 20, 2014 11:04 AM (GgPam)

34 Can I start now? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 03:02 PM ...YES!!!!!!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 11:04 AM (/o+xv)

35 The story of Julia is, in many ways, the story of Obama.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at February 20, 2014 03:02 PM (9LuAk)


Obama once used the name Julia and has the birth certificate to prove it.  Little known fact.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 11:04 AM (BZAd3)

36 If you're not including Planet Destroying Gamma Ray Burst, you're just treading water. Then again, that could just increase the number of Hulks on the planet, which might not be a bad thing. Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2014 03:03 PM (YbyjT) PDGRB is Secretary of the Interior. I mean, duh.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 11:04 AM (VtjlW)

37 I hope Perry can put a better campaign together this time. He seems to be a good person, he seems to have done an effective job in Texas. He should have gained some valuable experience from his prior run.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:04 AM (4+AaH)

38 32 It's not like there's any real industry to steal from Iowa Go for the corn and the fried snicker bars.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 11:04 AM (0FSuD)

39 or maybe i just want wine ( a case of it ) , in preparation for all the yelling and SOCON! and Dirty Rinos that are coming down .

Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 11:04 AM (nqBYe)

40 uh oh a perry thread okay, so the deer in the headlights debate horror-flick was due to meds, because he was sick at the time?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 20, 2014 11:04 AM (IXrOn)

41 pulls every ones hair. Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 03:03 PM (nqBYe) *big huge watery eyes*
Ow. *big huge watery eyes*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 11:05 AM (VtjlW)

42 A little trivia, Julia was the name of Barry's composite girlfriend in my first draft of his autobiography.

Posted by: Bill Ayers at February 20, 2014 11:05 AM (Q6pxP)

43 With all the hype and the no-show of SMOD, I'm assuming Fred Thompson will be campaign manager.

Posted by: AMDG at February 20, 2014 11:05 AM (t7OO0)

44 alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream Oh - this is some desert pastry. Not what I originally thought.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:06 AM (4+AaH)

45 Sexist NBC announcer says there is something sad about seeing a woman cry. NOW to protest, 1,2,3....

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 11:06 AM (0FSuD)

46 Yay, another sports thread!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 20, 2014 11:06 AM (IXrOn)

47 Perry would actually be great, But He really disappointed me last go around. No forthcoming surgeries i hope.

Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 11:06 AM (nqBYe)

48 Barry loves it when I scream 'Julia, oh Julia'

Posted by: Reggie Love at February 20, 2014 11:06 AM (Q6pxP)

49 Three things... the number shall be three... not four, which is one above three... or two... nor five, which is straight out! Three....

Posted by: GuyfromNH at February 20, 2014 11:06 AM (kbOju)

50 I dunno about you, but what I think this blog hasn't had for awhile and yet desperately needs is a good SoCon-RINO fight.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2014 11:06 AM (YbyjT)

51 So, when does Barky begin his 2016 campaign?

Seriously.. there was a guy on Rush's show today predicting JEF will have Prez term limits thrown out so he can go for 3.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 20, 2014 11:06 AM (Z7PrM)

52 Viva Perry Viva!

Posted by: Andrew at February 20, 2014 11:07 AM (+3SLm)

53 "Hey! Someone confiscate his pain meds.. quick! Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry" Don't worry.. we've hired any army of hot Chinese masseuses! Love, -DNC

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at February 20, 2014 11:07 AM (X7MMs)

54 Perry Mason?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 20, 2014 11:07 AM (kVfSG)

55 Get me some stock footage of racist rocks IMMEDIATELY.

Posted by: MSN Editorial Staff at February 20, 2014 11:07 AM (SY2Kh)

56 OT but I don't know where else to put this. Just out from the International Business Times UK: "French Islamists have sued satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo for blasphemy in Strasbourg for publishing a cover page with the headline: "The Koran is shit – it doesn't stop bullets." The League of Judicial Defence of Muslims (LDJM) led by former lawyers Karim Achoui, has brought the case before the criminal court in Alsace-Moselle's capital. The region, which was annexed by Germany in 1871 and 1940-45, still retained part of the old German code that includes the "blasphemy" crime – which no longer exist in the rest of France. The LDJM has also sued Charlie Hebdo in Paris for "provocation and incitement to hatred on the basis of religious affiliation and insult". A further complication is that Alsace's blasphemy laws has no redress for Islam, covering only Catholicism, three forms of Protestants and Judaism." Also, Ben Afflict to testify : Foreign Policy Magazine just announced that Ben Affleck would testify to the Senate as an expert on Africa. The House Republicans turned him down due to his lack of professional status, but the Senate Democrats invited him to testify. Almost as ridiculous as Obama's nomination for Ambassador to Norway.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 20, 2014 11:07 AM (0KmDt)

57 NOW to protest, 1,2,3....

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 03:06 PM (0FSuD)


Women everywhere deserve an apology!!!!

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 11:07 AM (BZAd3)

58 woops alex! hand over glass of wine, some lovely light chocolates and , looks around,.. my favorite water frog?

Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 11:07 AM (nqBYe)

59 Some of those Swedish girls are pretty hot. I'll take that ginger, thank you.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 11:08 AM (0FSuD)

60 Perry 2016????

Did I sleep through the 2008 primary season?

Posted by: Fred Thompson at February 20, 2014 11:08 AM (Q6pxP)

61 okay, so the deer in the headlights debate horror-flick was due to meds, because he was sick at the time? Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 20, 2014 03:04 PM


Back surgery.

Posted by: huerfano at February 20, 2014 11:08 AM (bAGA/)

62 Lone Star Heeb You're steppin' on my turf..

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:08 AM (U+u4A)

63 woops alex! hand over glass of wine, some lovely light chocolates and , looks around,.. my favorite water frog? Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 03:07 PM (nqBYe)
That works.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 11:08 AM (VtjlW)

64 OT. The Senate is going to have an expert testify on the situation in Congo. Ben Affleck. Seriously, . Good lord.
-
I think the word "Congo" is cool.  I think all countries in Africa should be named Congo.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 11:09 AM (XUKZU)

65 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:09 AM (PYAXX)

66 I may take off early today. I'm bushed. The podcast is kind of draining.

Posted by: ace at February 20, 2014 11:09 AM (/FnUH)

67

Considering the alternarives, Perry looks pretty good.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 20, 2014 11:09 AM (AskuI)

68 shrug, i just want the best person for america to win. walker walker WALKER. pulls every ones hair. Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 03:03 PM (nqBYe) heh.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 20, 2014 11:09 AM (IXrOn)

69 Well, get him off the pain meds and onto whisky, get him to open carry that Ruger they made special for him, and work on his speaking skills and it just might be His Turn. Because with the GOP all that matters is that you're Next in Line.

Posted by: Elders of Zion at February 20, 2014 11:09 AM (RD7QR)

70 Let's hope he doesn't get off to a rocky start

Posted by: MikeH at February 20, 2014 11:09 AM (ZdA3v)

71 Perry joined a new hunt club. Rock at entrance is called "wet back", it's in a stream. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 11:09 AM (0FSuD)

72 You're steppin' on my turf..

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 03:08 PM (U+u4A)


Sorry dude.  Heredity is a bitch.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 11:09 AM (BZAd3)

73 Aw hell. Conspiracy theory sock off.

Posted by: joncelli at February 20, 2014 11:09 AM (RD7QR)

74 Texas Demorap memo's on Perry leasing a temporary Governor's mansion for $10,000 / month in 5... 4... 3...

Posted by: phreshone at February 20, 2014 11:10 AM (Q6pxP)

75 He should just go on stage and cite the unemployment rate in TX and drop the mic. Leave the others to fight over binders and contraception.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 20, 2014 11:10 AM (9Bdcz)

76 Isn't it about time for Perry to get hit by a bus?

Posted by: The Dude at February 20, 2014 11:10 AM (bStrg)

77 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 03:02 PM (VtjlW) I have no objection to bewbs.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:10 AM (PYAXX)

78 66 I may take off early today. I'm bushed. The podcast is kind of draining. Posted by: ace at February 20, 2014 03:09 PM (/FnUH) Nap so you can stay up and watch Duke beat Chrissy's school, UNC.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 11:10 AM (0FSuD)

79 But-but-but-GARDASIL!!!!!

Posted by: Michelle the Shrieking Harpy Malkin at February 20, 2014 11:10 AM (7ObY1)

80 I believe i have been more disappointed with Smod than Romney ,or McCain, .

Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (nqBYe)

81 You're steppin' on my turf..

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 03:08 PM (U+u4A)


Plus... I thought you retired after your last winning season.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (BZAd3)

82 Remember, talking about Monica Lewinsky will be off-limits, but Rick Perry's debate performance in primary will be like totally fair game.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (YbyjT)

83 Watching the Women's Olympic Hockey Team get there medals. Haven't seen this many tears in closeup since Fame.

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (H1AgL)

84 Well I thought Perry looked shitty last time out, but if his back is ok and he stays off the meds, then philisophically I can live with him. As long as he can give em hell. And congrats to the Canadian Vimens Hockey Team.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (t3UFN)

85 OT. The Senate is going to have an expert testify on the situation in Congo. Ben Affleck. Seriously, . Good lord.
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The senate is hearing him but the house told him to take a hike.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (XUKZU)

86 Maybe this time around he'll improve his debate performance by shitting his pants.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (+lsX1)

87 He's a semi-aquatic, egg-laying Mammal of Action....

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (/29Nl)

88 Also, Ben Afflict to testify : Foreign Policy Magazine just announced that Ben Affleck would testify to the Senate as an expert on Africa. The House Republicans turned him down due to his lack of professional status, but the Senate Democrats invited him to testify. Almost as ridiculous as Obama's nomination for Ambassador to Norway. Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 20, 2014 03:07 PM (0KmDt) *********** It's so disgusting. Affleck an "expert" on the Congo. How the hell did that happen--he almost did a movie about it?

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (RJMhd)

89 Seriously.. there was a guy on Rush's show today predicting JEF will have Prez term limits thrown out so he can go for 3. Thing 1 - "a guy" can say anything. So what? Thing 2 - I don't think Barky likes Presidentin', interferes with his golf game. Much more likely Michelle runs so he doesn't have to move. Thing 3 - why would he bother with eliminating the term limits, he would just run. What could you do? You don't have standing to take it to court.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (4+AaH)

90 In many ways, Ben Affleck's testimony to Congress as an expert on the Congo is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Mark Murray at February 20, 2014 11:11 AM (yFb77)

91
Can I just say I hate Iowa.  Only for the one reason, first primary.

Otherwise, its kinda like heaven.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2014 11:12 AM (n0DEs)

92 My friends, you have everything to fear from a Rick Perry presidency

Posted by: John McCain at February 20, 2014 11:12 AM (aTXUx)

93 And Joe Scarborough is visiting New Hampshire, so, we're saaaaaved. /sarc off

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 20, 2014 11:12 AM (7ObY1)

94 I like red hair

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 20, 2014 11:12 AM (t3UFN)

95 Part of the reason why I can't get too angry with the Establishment is that I saw the party torpedo Perry for the dumbest of reasons.  I wish he hadn't done so poorly at the debates, because we could have gotten rid of some liabilities in conservative leaning media.

Secret Muslim, indeed.

I also feel bad for Ace for pushing so hard on Perry to avoid the problems we were inevitably going to face.  2011-12 was such a train wreck.

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 20, 2014 11:12 AM (qiXMt)

96 First we're going to take Iowa, then we're going to take New Hampshire, and then we're going to take..... ummmm..... then we're going to take .... . I can't remember the third one- Oops!

Posted by: Ricardo Perrydad at February 20, 2014 11:12 AM (3p8HS)

97

From people I know who know Perry personally, the answer at this point is no.

 

Who knows though, he's a politician.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 20, 2014 11:12 AM (t06LC)

98 Poor Rick Perry, he was born... he was born...  ah shit, he was actually born poor.

Posted by: Ann Richards at February 20, 2014 11:12 AM (Q6pxP)

99 91 Can I just say I hate Iowa. Only for the one reason, first primary. At least they make great potatoes in Iowa. Oh, wait...

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 20, 2014 11:12 AM (7ObY1)

100
Also as an aside they are playing the music from Happy Gilmore during the medal ceremony.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (n0DEs)

101 The reason he joined Newt in attacking Romney for practicing the "wrong kind" of capitalism? Back surgery.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (+lsX1)

102 I dunno about you, but what I think this blog hasn't had for awhile and yet desperately needs is a good SoCon-RINO fight. Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2014 03:06 PM (YbyjT) Perry/Aiken 2016!* *I'm so kidding, it hurts.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (IXrOn)

103 I honestly could see Perry doing well. He hurt his own campaign far more than the left damaged him. If the stupid rock thing is brought up, he can just say "What rock, the one we painted over after taking possession of the property? Next question."
Off of pain killers and properly prepped he'd do well.
It just doesn't matter. Nobody with an R after their name wins the presidency again, not for a long time.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (zfY+H)

104 Perry 2016............So he can do for the State of Texas like he did for Texas A&M and the SEC!

Posted by: Jimmy's Attack Rabbit at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (E6zMZ)

105 I love Perry and he's great with pre-written speeches but the man is a shit debater, pain pills or not.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (P1Tw6)

106 He should just go on stage and cite the unemployment rate in TX and drop the mic.
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The lefties say the reason Texas is doing so well is oil.  By that standard Venezuela should be buried in toilet paper.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (XUKZU)

107 "Did I sleep through the 2008 primary season? Posted by: Fred Thompson at February 20, 2014 03:08 PM (Q6pxP)" Get back to hawking reverse mortgages.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (YbyjT)

108

@91

Or purgatory.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (t06LC)

109 Maybe Perry could shoot some of those old-timey American Express ads  (Remember  Me?) to ease into the national spotlight.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (BAS5M)

110 Affleck an "expert" on the Congo. How the hell did that happen--he almost did a movie about it? Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 03:11 PM (RJMhd) I think he stayed at the Holiday Inn Express in Brazzaville. Yeah, that's it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 11:13 AM (0FSuD)

111 Haven't seen this many tears in closeup since Fame. Weak. There is no crying in hockey. Not even distaff hockey.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 20, 2014 11:14 AM (7ObY1)

112 i'd vote for perry.....i won't vote for christie

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 7 days (1wk) until spring training at February 20, 2014 11:14 AM (u8GsB)

113 Ben is representing all his fellow mouth breathers who happen to live in Congo

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:14 AM (U+u4A)

114 102 I dunno about you, but what I think this blog hasn't had for awhile and yet desperately needs is a good SoCon-RINO fight. Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2014 03:06 PM (YbyjT) Perry/Aiken 2016!* *I'm so kidding, it hurts. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 20, 2014 03:13 PM (IXrOn) ************** INCOMING!!!1!!

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 11:14 AM (RJMhd)

115 Part of the reason why I can't get too angry with the Establishment is that I saw the party torpedo Perry for the dumbest of reasons. Perry torpedoed himself. A Vast Establishment-Wing Conspiracy is not necessary to explain his loss.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 20, 2014 11:14 AM (SY2Kh)

116 just.can't.wait. for all the knife fights . so will valu rite still be the alcohol of choice? and please let's find something other than pudding too many bad memories.

Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 11:14 AM (nqBYe)

117 We need a "composite candidate."

Posted by: Crim the Adequate at February 20, 2014 11:14 AM (Rg22G)

118 Three reasons to vote for Perry: 1. Successful governorship 2. Great hair 3. Ahhh... Mmmm... I forgot the third one. Dammit, joke's been done. F it. Post.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 11:15 AM (UYe47)

119 Isn't his turn?

Posted by: Jean at February 20, 2014 11:15 AM (RizLv)

120 The reason Perry backed Al Gore for President in '88? Back surgery.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 20, 2014 11:15 AM (+lsX1)

121 trips Hollowpoint, because i'm closer.

Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 11:15 AM (nqBYe)

122 In many ways, Ben Affleck's testimony to Congress as an expert on the Congo is the story of Obama.
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Self deluded incompetent surrounded by sycophants believes his own hype?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 11:15 AM (XUKZU)

123 I think that we have a rich field to choose from for candidates this time - I am sure the GOP could screw this up, though: Perry Jindal Haley Walker Brewer Christie Martinez Pence

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:15 AM (4+AaH)

124 110 Affleck an "expert" on the Congo. How the hell did that happen--he almost did a movie about it? Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 03:11 PM (RJMhd) I think he stayed at the Holiday Inn Express in Brazzaville. Yeah, that's it. Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 03:13 PM (0FSuD) *********** That's it. I'm off to go look at that Boston schmuck's wiki.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 11:16 AM (RJMhd)

125 HUCKABEE!

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:16 AM (U+u4A)

126 Well since the GOP is stuck on its stupid nomination of the next in line, Perry is not a bad catch. Much better than Romney or McCain.

I hope he stays away from the back meds though. They screwed him up royally last time.

Oops.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:16 AM (buZ/8)

127 He hurt his own campaign far more than the left damaged him Excuse me, but it was *I* who hurt his campaign. Because I just couldn't wait for the Left to do their OWN oppo research. I just had to attack a fiscal conservative right out of the gate, because I am a vindictive, petulant little fuckwad.

Posted by: Michelle the Shrieking Harpy Malkin at February 20, 2014 11:16 AM (7ObY1)

128 OT This relates to this morning topic though about politicalizing things. Kirsten Powers on her time at FOX. From Hot Air.... Cannon began by asking Powers how she is treated by her Fox colleagues. He recalled that New York Times’ conservative columnist David Brooks was not well-received when he first started writing for the Times and asked if Powers had encountered a similar experience. “People are really nice at Fox,” Powers revealed. “It’s been good for because I – before that, I lived in a real liberal bubble.” “All my friends were liberals and I grew up in a really liberal family,” she continued. “I had a lot of ideas about conservatives and then I got to Fox and just, I was like, ‘Oh, they’re not all evil and stupid.’”

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 11:16 AM (/o+xv)

129 Texas Demorap memo's on Perry leasing a temporary Governor's mansion for $10,000 / month in 5... 4... 3... Meh. It's been out there and explained. It doesn't help that the guy who torched the Gov's mansion was a Lefty.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:16 AM (PYAXX)

130 >>He's visiting Iowa


To raze that motherfucker to the ground!

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 20, 2014 11:16 AM (hn70M)

131 - Self deluded incompetent surrounded by sycophants believes his own hype? Posted by: WalrusRex ________________ That's racist!

Posted by: Mark Murray at February 20, 2014 11:16 AM (yFb77)

132 The story of Julia is, in many ways, the story of Obama. Especially the pants.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 20, 2014 11:16 AM (N/cFh)

133 Maybe Perry is going to take up Wrestling at UI? NCAA Champs in these years. 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2008, 2009, 2010

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 11:16 AM (0FSuD)

134

Perry needs to do one thing, and that's not throw up on himself at the debates, and also be tough on illegal immigration.

I mean two things- debate better, have a law-enforcement spiel for immigration, and explain why Texas is such a great environment for business.

Er, make that three things- not take medicine that makes him dopey at debates, address his amnesty reputation, talk up Texas's economic powerhouseness, and oh crap I though I had more material for this lame joke I think I'm hyperventilating

 

Posted by: Sam Hill at February 20, 2014 11:17 AM (zgHLA)

135 What's endlessly sad and yet amusing is how hard people on the right work to find something wrong with every candidate so they can oppose them. Its the opposite of the left, where they will look for that one thing they can support a Democrat on, and ignore the rest of their train wreck of a life and persona, in a way.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:17 AM (zfY+H)

136 Perry has done more than one thing that I disagreed with, but I think he "gets" it and would make a good president. (Gardasil was one; can't remember the other. Seems when he gets pushback, he considers the validity of the criticism and adjusts accordingly -- I like that in a leader.)

Posted by: Mindy at February 20, 2014 11:17 AM (mQwL2)

137 I plan on primary voting for Cruz, Paul, or Walker of the probable list. Need to see who the MSM assassinates with mud first.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 11:17 AM (UYe47)

138 He's visiting .....because he's already wooed most of the biggest CA business to move to Texas, so now he's moved on to Iowa's?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2014 11:17 AM (POpqt)

139 94 I like red hair Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 20, 2014 03:12 PM (t3UFN) And freckles. Must have.... freckles. I remember once, nevermind.

Posted by: tubal at February 20, 2014 11:17 AM (YEQ2h)

140 Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 03:08 PM (U+u4A)

Shouldn't that be TexasJewBoy, ala Kinky Friedman?

Posted by: John P. Squibob at February 20, 2014 11:17 AM (DQZLr)

141 Next time Perry should reschedule his penis reduction operation till after the debates

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:18 AM (U+u4A)

142 The "composite candidate" will be formed from: * Rick's policy-making * Newt's interview/debate liver-eating * Mitt's perfectly coiffed hair

Posted by: Crim the Adequate at February 20, 2014 11:18 AM (Rg22G)

143 Lone Star Heeb

You're steppin' on my turf..

Posted by: TexasJew

 

 

I got a whole band full of you fellers.

Posted by: Kinky Friedman at February 20, 2014 11:18 AM (A0sHn)

144 Hopefully, Perry can get a hold of the ORCA for his GOTV effort in Iowa in time for the 2017 primaries. He is next in line according to the GOP SOP--don't think Santorum will run again. We just need to keep toxifying Obama--I don't like the positive slopes on his approvals. Starve the economy. Remember the old adage--"is this trip really necessary?" By 2016, he needs to be where Bush was in 2008--as far away from his convention as possible.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 20, 2014 11:18 AM (Ec6wH)

145 Perry refuses to learn how to debate, so there's really no story here.

Posted by: Dick (@DicksTrash) at February 20, 2014 11:18 AM (GrtrJ)

146

Posted by: Michelle the Shrieking Harpy Malkin at February 20, 2014 03:16 PM (7ObY1)


Perry definitely didn't need help in coming off as a retard

Posted by: The Dude at February 20, 2014 11:18 AM (bStrg)

147
Perry/Aiken 2016!.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette




Santorum/O'Donnell 2016: Sola scriptura

That ought to light a fuse.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 20, 2014 11:18 AM (kdS6q)

148 I keep expecting Perry to whip off his glasses and change into some spandex in a phone booth. That said, Perry 2016. Or Walker 2016. or Cruz 2016. I'm not picky, just no more f'n RINOs, k?

Posted by: Lauren at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (hFL/3)

149 142 The "composite candidate" will be formed from:
* Rick's policy-making
* Newt's interview/debate liver-eating
* Mitt's perfectly coiffed hair

Posted by: Crim the Adequate at February 20, 2014 03:18 PM (Rg22G)


Don't forget they have to be tall! The taller guys win!

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (buZ/8)

150 "NCAA Champs in these years. 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2008, 2009, 2010" Probably will be so for many years to come too Nip... they got a lot of incoming talent from all over that state over the next few years... which sucks, cuz I'm an Iowa St fan.

Posted by: skinny at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (dt2qx)

151 Three reasons to vote for Perry: 1. Successful governorship 2. Great hair 3. Ahhh... Mmmm... I forgot the third one. Dammit, joke's been done. F it. Post. Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 03:15 PM (UYe47) But, how tall is he?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (IXrOn)

152 Hi hiney! *waves at #145*

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (P1Tw6)

153 Well here it is--he did a short film in 2008. Has Obama done much about the Congo.... In June 2008 he appeared in an ABC News exclusive report exploring the humanitarian crisis in the Eastern Congo. Affleck travelled to the African nation and interviewed refugees, warlords, and members of parliament. "I think the more painful something is, the more you want to distance yourself from it," he said. "I think the hard part is actually to let some of that go and to realize that when you see some of these images of people suffering in some way or another, to kind of remember that these are people who are in fact just in different circumstances than you are, but that are kind of dealing with [those circumstances] in a pretty brave and enduring way."[82] In December 2008, he teamed up with the United Nations releasing a short film highlighting the plight of Congolese refugees,[83] and in March 2010, Affleck announced the formation of the Eastern Congo Initiative, which he founded as "the first U.S.-based advocacy and grant-making initiative wholly focused on working with and for the people of eastern Congo".[84] In April 2013, Affleck announced that he would take part in Global Poverty Project's "Live Below the Line" campaign, which consists in living on $1.50 a day to raise awareness of extreme poverty around the world.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (RJMhd)

154 Rick Perry?  Oh, my.  I think I feel a bout of the vapors coming on.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (Q6pxP)

155 Ummmmmmmmm..... I am back up to, ahhhhhhhhh 46% approval. Bitches.

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (32Ze2)

156 I think that we have a rich field to choose from for candidates this time - I am sure the GOP could screw this up, though: Perry Jindal Haley Walker Brewer Christie Martinez Pence Dang it. Left off Snyder, again.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (4+AaH)

157 oops, that's supposed to be hOney

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (P1Tw6)

158 You're steppin' on my turf..Posted by: TexasJewI got a whole band full of you fellers.

Posted by: Kinky Friedman at February 20, 2014 03:18 PM (A0sHn)


You are a whole band Kink.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (BZAd3)

159 To raze that motherfucker to the ground!

#NukeIowaCity

Posted by: HR at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (ZKzrr)

160 131. I know someone whose media name is Mark Murray. You're not that guy, are you? If so, "Hi, Mark! Mr. Bassman says hi as well!"

Posted by: Mindy at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (mQwL2)

161 Affleck has some foundation to help Congo or something. So he's a fucking expert! Geebus.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 11:19 AM (/o+xv)

162 @123 "Haley" Glad to see her on your list. I don't know her very well, but she is sharp and charismatic.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 11:20 AM (UYe47)

163 Maybe Canada won the Gold today because G-D looked down and saw how they Support Israel and was pleased

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 20, 2014 11:20 AM (t3UFN)

164 Meanwhile Cornyn has sponsored a bill granting illegals SS benefits, so we're all fucked down here..

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:20 AM (U+u4A)

165 How can a U of Mississippi grad be sooo fucking annoying? I guess when Shep turned ghey he gave up his Rebel heritage?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 11:20 AM (0FSuD)

166 Posted by: Nip Sip at February 20, 2014 03:16 PM (0FSuD) Makes it really easy when Title IX kills almost all other wrestling programs...

Posted by: AMDG at February 20, 2014 11:20 AM (t7OO0)

167 "The "composite candidate" will be formed from: "
Add in Herman Cain's business experience and economic understanding.
Doesn't matter, like I said, next president is a Democrat no matter who runs. The actual people as candidates are irrelevant.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:20 AM (zfY+H)

168 That said, Perry 2016. Or Walker 2016. or Cruz 2016. I'm not picky, just no more f'n RINOs, k? Oh don't you worry. By the time it's over they'll all be accused of being RINOs for some real or imagined violation of the Conservative Code.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 20, 2014 11:20 AM (SY2Kh)

169 6 He's visiting Iowa. Why do we have to make everything political? He might just be visiting some tourist attraction there, or a relative or something. Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 02:59 PM (4+AaH) Okay, that's funny. Um, tourist attractions in Iowa. Ummmm. I'm drawing a blank.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 20, 2014 11:20 AM (Uo7Tv)

170 I hate pessimists.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 20, 2014 11:20 AM (t3UFN)

171 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 03:17 PM (zfY+H) I take it you don't read very much lefty commentary...at all.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2014 11:21 AM (YbyjT)

172 But seriously, what the hell was up with Michelle Malkin? That was just weird. Did he not call or something?

Posted by: Lauren at February 20, 2014 11:21 AM (hFL/3)

173 Well, if the left can get cocaine legalized by then, Perry could legally be alert this time.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 20, 2014 11:21 AM (IXrOn)

174 Perry has done more than one thing that I disagreed with, but I think he "gets" it and would make a good president. Off the top of my head: 1) Gardisil (so low on my meter it almost doesn't rate). B) Trans-Texas Corridor (mostly with *how* he was trying to do it- TX really does need the transportation infrastructure).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:21 AM (PYAXX)

175
Dole, McCain, Mitt, and next in line!

Posted by: Sequential GOP Count Master at February 20, 2014 11:21 AM (nQjHM)

176 Perry is an open borders corporatist. If you want a president who opposes E-Verify, opposes the fence, will flood the country with "guest workers" who will never leave, and will sign an amnesty bill, he's the guy for you.


Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at February 20, 2014 11:21 AM (DPMu1)

177 Posted by: Michelle the Shrieking Harpy Malkin at February 20, 2014 03:16 PM (7ObY1)

Perry might as well have shot himself in the head. Not once, but several times in multiple debates.

Michelle Malkin was the least of his problems.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:21 AM (buZ/8)

178 *sigh* he drive-by posted again.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 20, 2014 11:21 AM (P1Tw6)

179 ♫ They ain't makin' jews like Jesus anymore ♫

Posted by: Kinky at February 20, 2014 11:21 AM (Q6pxP)

180 The House Republicans turned him down due to his lack of professional status, but the Senate Democrats invited him to testify. Oh, the old Sandra Fluke maneuver. She got more coverage by 'not testifying' if you ask me.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 20, 2014 11:22 AM (9Bdcz)

181
All right!  Steve Perry for President.  "Faithfully"

Posted by: Sphynx at February 20, 2014 11:22 AM (OZmbA)

182 Dole, McCain, Mitt, and next in line! Posted by: Sequential GOP Count Master at February 20, 2014 03:21 ....Got be Huckabee!!!!!!!!!! (Ducks out of room before people start throwing shit)

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 11:22 AM (/o+xv)

183 "Haley" Glad to see her on your list. I don't know her very well, but she is sharp and charismatic. Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 03:20 PM (UYe47) Actually my personal favorite. Grew up in SC. And I know that she beat the "good ole boys" there. And, sorry that it will be this way, but the war on women will be in full effect. They will still bring it on her, but it will be a LOT less effective.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:23 AM (4+AaH)

184 -
32 It's not like there's any real industry to steal from Iowa
Posted by: I'm Rick Perry, bitch at February 20, 2014 03:03 PM
------------------------------


Sir, we are offended!

Posted by: American Cornhole Association at February 20, 2014 11:23 AM (pMGkg)

185 By now, I'm so politically cynical, they all seem like Spam sammich to me.

Posted by: tubal at February 20, 2014 11:23 AM (YEQ2h)

186 My guess is Perry will try again. They all seem to. Huckabee sounds like he's giving it another go as well. It's the decade of republican retreads. I guess. On a O/T note, I see TFG rebounded to 46% on Gallup? I have to wonder why, other than his baloney talk about "giving America a raise!" After all the shit that's gone on, after the nightmare of Obamacare, how on earth is his approval going back up? Good gawd, there's really little hope for us as a country.

Posted by: Lady in Black, on iPhone & not responsible for typos at February 20, 2014 11:23 AM (wrhPR)

187 I hate pessimists. Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 20, 2014 03:20 PM (t3UFN) hides in closet. look i can remember when i srsly thought a ham sammich could beat Obama after the unemployment, the fiscal ruin of millions. but media, media. we still have the same media.

Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 11:23 AM (nqBYe)

188 How the hell did that happen--he almost did a movie about it? Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 03:11 PM (RJMhd) He had his pr agency contact Congress and ask to give testimony. For once liberals and conservatives commenters on FP Mag are actually in agreement. What an idiotic Senate decision. Of course the liberals want to paint this one as Congress and rope the Republican House in on his invite.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 20, 2014 11:23 AM (0KmDt)

189 Okay, that's funny. Um, tourist attractions in Iowa.
Ummmm. I'm drawing a blank.


http://blueribbonbaconfestival.com/


Posted by: HR at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (ZKzrr)

190 Perry is an open borders corporatist. If you want a president who opposes E-Verify, opposes the fence, will flood the country with "guest workers" who will never leave, and will sign an amnesty bill, he's the guy for you.


Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at February 20, 2014 03:21 PM (DPMu1)


Have you ever even been to Texas?

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (BZAd3)

191 Based on the last 3 presidential elections, clearly the choice is to pick the one who the GOP candidate beat. Bush beat McCain, who beat Romney. Who was #2 in 2012, again?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (zfY+H)

192 Nip Two words: Trent Lott Now THAT was annoying..

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (U+u4A)

193 SMOD is a rino phony. Vote for the true destroyer of civilization. Ecstatic Comet of Obliteration.

Posted by: Nicholson in As Good As It Gets at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (A/lC4)

194 But seriously, what the hell was up with Michelle Malkin? That was just weird. Did he not call or something? Posted by: Lauren at February 20, 2014 03:21 PM ........Not sure. But she was harder on him than almost any other GOP candidate. I kind of soured on her a bit and rarely read her anymore.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (/o+xv)

195

Okay, that's funny. Um, tourist attractions in Iowa.
Ummmm. I'm drawing a blank.

 

-

 

Isn't the Corn Palace there, or is that SD?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (AskuI)

196
That rock thing with the N word painted on it was unfortunate, and when I learned about it, I had it painted over with Feliz Navidad to celebrate my Mexican friends!

Posted by: Rick Perry at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (nQjHM)

197 182 Dole, McCain, Mitt, and next in line!


Posted by: Sequential GOP Count Master at February 20, 2014 03:21
....Got be Huckabee!!!!!!!!!! (Ducks out of room before people start throwing shit)

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 03:22 PM (/o+xv)


Wrong, Huckabee was next in line for 2012.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (buZ/8)

198

>>>Doesn't matter, like I said, next president is a Democrat no matter who runs. The actual people as candidates are irrelevant.

 

Hammer meet Nail.

 

/owie

Posted by: Bigby's Throbbing Thumb at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (3ZtZW)

199 I was trying to post a comment over at hot air, but I can never remember my damn password since I do so infrequently, so I'll post it here. AP suggested the following... " Rand Paul? Ted Cruz? Rubio? At least one of those guys is definitely running," I don't think this is correct, Paul and Rubio will think long and hard about running this cycle because of the peculiarities with the local electoral laws, unless I am mistaken, neither of them would be permitted to seem multiple offices at the same time, since they would both be up for re-election. If either of them got into the home stretch they would have to essentially give up their senate races, and there is a lot of time for the electoral landscape to shift, depends on who the opposition is, a lot of things. I would bet that both of them will give a "this is not my time" reason and sit out til 2020 if it looks like the democrats could keep the white house. A Cruz candidacy would be a bit of an enigma, I love the guy, but he's got only the two years in the senate, and I'm not sure he can survive the assault from the media, and his own party. it may not be "his time either" We have to really take a step back with our flavor of the week mentality. We get these heroes, and we say "hey _____ will be a great president" Herman Cain, Gingrich, Santorum, Perry, all had these surges in the last cycle, they we flee like rats from a sinking ship when something bad happens or the next guy comes along. Alan West, Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, are guys with potential for that this time. We should be very very careful....

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (n/ogz)

200 Ok, as awful as Iowa winters are (ISU is closed this afternoon!) people do get paid to give speeches and even if they don't get paid, they like to be seen to make contacts. I think Perry wants to run but even he hasn't decided yet.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (xSegX)

201 Um, tourist attractions in Iowa. Bridges of Madison County Field of Dreams (Dyersville) Hot Hawkeye Hookers (Dorm room in Iowa City)

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 20, 2014 11:24 AM (Ec6wH)

202 Rick is helping clear the ground of Bush disciples

Posted by: Ted Cruz at February 20, 2014 11:25 AM (Q6pxP)

203 Gallup went back up because the fucker delayed the employer mandate. People were worried, and now they get to procrastinate another year. Never mind it is illegal or they will be getting fucked eventually. It's no longer an immediate concern for them.

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:25 AM (/29Nl)

204 188 How the hell did that happen--he almost did a movie about it? Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 03:11 PM (RJMhd) He had his pr agency contact Congress and ask to give testimony. For once liberals and conservatives commenters on FP Mag are actually in agreement. What an idiotic Senate decision. Of course the liberals want to paint this one as Congress and rope the Republican House in on his invite. Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 20, 2014 03:23 PM (0KmDt) ************ I wonder if he listed Argo as "evidence" of his expertise--because hey-- Close enough!!!

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 11:25 AM (RJMhd)

205

Can I just say I hate Iowa. Only for the one reason, first primary.

 

Caucus.  But still, that reason leads to a lot of perfidy. 

 

It's because every politician has to suck up to Iowa that we have corn in our gasoline and corn in our Coca-Cola and several other perfidious things.  I have a whole "Big Corn is more evil than Big Oil" rant, which I will spare you.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 20, 2014 11:25 AM (A0sHn)

206 " By the time it's over they'll all be accused of being RINOs for some real or imagined violation of the Conservative Code." Right, because it's not like anyone had a point about Our Friend John "The Maverick" McCain or Mitt "I'm the nicest guy in America, why don't you love me?" Romney. I'll admit, I came around on Romney. He definitely wasn't as conservative as I'd like, but I think he would have made a very good president. McCain though? *shudder* I think he would have been as bad as Obama. No hyperbole. I think that his decisions would have been nearly identical to Obama's aside, perhaps, from Obamacare. The *only* saving grace I see with a McCain presidency is with SCOTUS picks, and as Roberts showed us, that's no guarantee.

Posted by: Lauren at February 20, 2014 11:25 AM (hFL/3)

207

All right! Steve Perry for President. "Faithfully"

 

 

Joe Perry for Vice President.  "Sweet Emotion"

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 20, 2014 11:25 AM (BAS5M)

208 "Perry definitely didn't need help in coming off as a retard"

That's true, but at the same time, it wasn't his idea to make 2012 about how much Republicans hate vaccines.  Thanks Malkin and Bachmann.  Thanks a freaken lot.

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (qiXMt)

209 AllenG, that might be the other thing. Anyway, he's in my top ten dream candidates.

Posted by: Mindy at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (mQwL2)

210 What the hell--- Release the Santorum!!!

Posted by: tubal at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (YEQ2h)

211 Hate to break it do ya', but if the RNC follows tradition of second banana in the primaries, our candidate in 2016 is...

Rick Santorum.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (DQZLr)

212 23 OT. The Senate is going to have an expert testify on the situation in Congo. Ben Affleck. Seriously, . Good lord. Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 03:02 PM (/o+xv) Honest to gawd, when it comes to politicians, congressidiots are the bottom of the barrel. All ego and no brains. Why is Afflek testifying about the Congo? Is Kim Kardashian not available?

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (Uo7Tv)

213 I was considering Rand Paul seriously, until I saw the bit today about him wanting to restore voting rights to felons. Not down with that shit any more than I'm down with voting rights for welfare queens.

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (/29Nl)

214 RS McCain was anti-Perry early on, and it had nothing to do with Perry as a candidate, it had to do with his campaign. McCain was big for Cain and Santorum, so you can probably discount his evaluation of the success of candidates, but when he writes about the mechanics of campaigns and press interactions, he is pretty spot on. That is why I say that I hope Perry has a better campaign.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (4+AaH)

215 Katy Perry?

Posted by: Mindy at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (mQwL2)

216 Who was #2 in 2012, again?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 03:24 PM (zfY+H)


even with coming off as a waterhead, Perry was second

Posted by: The Dude at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (bStrg)

217 Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 20, 2014 03:20 PM (SY2Kh) Or one of the numerous legitimate criticisms you conveniently ignore numerous times a day.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (YbyjT)

218

Why is 'doggy style' so popular in Candia?

So they can both watch the hockey game, eh.

Posted by: bOB Costas at February 20, 2014 11:26 AM (QM5S2)

219 "But seriously, what the hell was up with Michelle Malkin? That was just weird. Did he not call or something? "
I suspect she was trying to head off what she thought was a losing candidate before he got any steam. A Texas Governor, 4 years after Bush? She saw him having no shot and wanted to keep him from getting anywhere.
Also, she's HUGE on immigration and his record in some ways is not great in that area. Sometimes we let our pet concerns blind us to other things.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:27 AM (zfY+H)

220 Whatever Perry is, his campaign was a stumblefuck from the get go. His "soft entry" into the race, the medication issue being his best defense, really no support in red States that might have supported him had he been more earnest earlier. A mess.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 20, 2014 11:27 AM (ZshNr)

221 Almost as ridiculous as Obama...
Posted by: I'd rather be surfin


You can stop right there.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 20, 2014 11:27 AM (xrX4n)

222

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 20, 2014 03:24 PM (n/ogz)


Well then, Walker it is.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:27 AM (buZ/8)

223 "Isn't the Corn Palace there, or is that SD?" lol... definitely South Dakota.... but we have a lot of casinos... uh... and... uh... did i mention casinos?

Posted by: skinny at February 20, 2014 11:27 AM (dt2qx)

224 Have you ever even been to Texas?

That's never stopped anyone from thinking they're an expert on Iowa; why should Texas be any different?

Posted by: HR at February 20, 2014 11:27 AM (ZKzrr)

225
I could vote for me some cowboy Rick Perry.

Posted by: Chrissy Bandersnatch at February 20, 2014 11:28 AM (nQjHM)

226 but we have a lot of casinos... uh... and... uh... did i mention casinos?

And the Big Bopper died there.

Posted by: HR at February 20, 2014 11:28 AM (ZKzrr)

227 @183 Haley has impressed me every time I have seen her on TV, but her name never comes up. Did you catch Willey on Megan, "Hillary is the war on women."? That left a mark.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 11:28 AM (UYe47)

228 Based on the last 3 presidential elections, clearly the choice is to pick the one who the GOP candidate beat. Bush beat McCain, who beat Romney. Who was #2 in 2012, again? 2012 was strange in that the candidate filling the #2 spot changed every other week. There was no clear second place finisher. Hence the reason both Santorum and Huckabee are threatening contemplating another run as the "next in line" candidate.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 20, 2014 11:28 AM (SY2Kh)

229 207 All right! Steve Perry for President. "Faithfully"

Joe Perry for Vice President. "Sweet Emotion"

Posted by: Count de Monet


Katy Perry    "Dark Horse"

Posted by: Sphynx at February 20, 2014 11:28 AM (OZmbA)

230 I remember people on the right specifically bringing up Perry's *accent* as being too close to Bush's, and therefore he was unelectable. So if just having a regional accent similar to Bush is bad, how the fuck does Karl Rove still have a job?

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:29 AM (/29Nl)

231 really no support in red States that might have supported him had he been more earnest earlier.

Posted by: Lincolntf


Like Texas, right?

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 20, 2014 11:29 AM (xrX4n)

232 Did anyone catch that cartoon intro to Argo? Ben Affleck and his crayons.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 11:29 AM (RJMhd)

233 It's because every politician has to suck up to Iowa that we have corn in our gasoline and corn in our Coca-Cola and several other perfidious things.

Texas gets more farm subsidies than any other state.

Posted by: HR at February 20, 2014 11:30 AM (ZKzrr)

234 *storms into thread* Who says they will not vote for Perry? Who???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 11:30 AM (da5Wo)

235 As horrible a president and person as McCain is, I do realize he'd have been less horrible than the current knucklehead.
But Romney would have done a pretty good job. I would have had real problems with some of his policies and decisions, but he would have been a decent president.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:30 AM (zfY+H)

236 why should Texas be any different?

Posted by: HR at February 20, 2014 03:27 PM (ZKzrr)


Because the politics of "immigration" illegal and otherwise, has worked pretty well in that state for a pretty long time and it hasn't damaged the Republicans as it has in every other red state in the country.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 11:31 AM (BZAd3)

237 The argument for Perry, I suppose, is that heÂ’s the only one potential tea-party champion with executive experience, but I canÂ’t believe thatÂ’ll put him over the top when it didnÂ’t help him last time. **** That statement completely ignores the obvious reasons for Perry's failure to catch on last time: The heartless comment The accusations of racism The pain killers which led to lousy debate performances This time, I would hope, that he will think before he speaks re immigrant issues, that the racism card has already been played out, and he's off the pills. I'd be more than happy to see him run.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 20, 2014 11:31 AM (DmNpO)

238 If Allen West runs I am voting for him. Like Haley, he is never mentioned.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 11:31 AM (UYe47)

239 2012 was strange in that the candidate filling the #2 spot changed every other week. There was no clear second place finisher.

Hence the reason both Santorum and Huckabee are threatening contemplating another run as the "next in line" candidate.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 20, 2014 03:28 PM (SY2Kh)


The #2 spot was almost exclusively held by Romney, which was almost exclusively the moderates in the party (~20%) consolidating to him, in all the polling. The flavor of the week was the #1 spot until they flamed out.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:31 AM (buZ/8)

240 Coincidence?

I think not. http://yhoo.it/1hzgx9O

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 11:32 AM (VtjlW)

241

 >>>real or imagined violation of the Conservative Code.

 

We got that Code by copying out the old Comics Code and changing a few words around. I was on the MS-Word committee, but I had no input on the search and replace function.

Posted by: Bigby's Throbbing Thumb at February 20, 2014 11:32 AM (3ZtZW)

242 Texas gets more farm subsidies than any other state. Texans. Not "Texas." (Though I suppose the same is true of Iowa- "Iowans, not 'Iowa'") That said- Texas also has way more farm land than any other state. And as a percentage of our GSP, I'm guessing it's a lot lower than Iowa.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:32 AM (PYAXX)

243 *storms into thread*


Who says they will not vote for Perry?

Who???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 03:30 PM (da5Wo)


I won't. Of course I highly doubt I'm voting for a real person next election but the sentiment is the same


HAN SOLO 2016

Posted by: The Dude at February 20, 2014 11:32 AM (bStrg)

244

The Senate is going to have an expert testify on the situation in Congo. Ben Affleck. Seriously, . Good lord.

 

I trust, unlike our Argentinian ambassador, that Ben has actually been to the Congo ?

Posted by: McCool at February 20, 2014 11:32 AM (nCSwS)

245 Haley has impressed me every time I have seen her on TV, but her name never comes up. I don't think she has ever expressed an interest. And, South Carolina is a relatively small state, and it is kind of hard to build a national campaign from there - though she'd pretty much have a lock on winning the primary there, Newt ruined the state's streak on voting for the nominee.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:32 AM (4+AaH)

246 I was a hard core Perry fan, but not so much anymore.

Posted by: SIG NEEDED at February 20, 2014 11:32 AM (q177U)

247 It's his turn, right?

Posted by: nanNY state at February 20, 2014 11:33 AM (0rpqu)

248 I'd vote for Allen West in a NY minute

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 20, 2014 11:33 AM (t3UFN)

249 Or one of the numerous legitimate criticisms you conveniently ignore numerous times a day. My apologies for not getting outrageously outraged over the slightest deviation from the unwritten conservative rulebook.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 20, 2014 11:33 AM (SY2Kh)

250 I went to Iowa once. ONCE!

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 20, 2014 11:33 AM (hn70M)

251 238 If Allen West runs I am voting for him. Like Haley, he is never mentioned. Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 03:31 PM (UYe47) I don't think he should be mentioned. As great as he seems, I personally think he lacks sound judgement. He talks a good game, but I think he would be a disaster in the white house. Not that my opinion means anything.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 20, 2014 11:33 AM (n/ogz)

252 good campaigns win elections; bad campaigns lose them


been telling PoliSci students this for 35 years; if Perry was in one of my classes, he didn' listen.





Posted by: Jules ( turning Chinese ) at February 20, 2014 11:34 AM (omBWL)

253 Please stop this Texas/Iowa bickering Just drown Tom Harkin in a pool filled with cat piss and all will be forgiven..

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:34 AM (U+u4A)

254 Romney beat Perry in Texas. Of course Perry had dropped out or was about to at the time.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 20, 2014 11:34 AM (ZshNr)

255 I won't. Of course I highly doubt I'm voting for a real person next election but the sentiment is the same HAN SOLO 2016 Posted by: The Dude at February 20, 2014 03:32 PM (bStrg) Then you sir are clearly a RINO fuck and not welcome at my table. Unless you're going to provide me with some really cool cheat codes for some really cool games. In that case, you can stay.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 11:34 AM (da5Wo)

256
I spent a week in Texas one Sunday!

-W C Fields

Posted by: Dan Rather at February 20, 2014 11:34 AM (nQjHM)

257 235 As horrible a president and person as McCain is, I do realize he'd have been less horrible than the current knucklehead. I'm not so sure. We'd be in eighteen wars under McCain right now, helping Al Qaeda and drop ordinance on Christians, because crazy old bastard who is senile.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 20, 2014 11:35 AM (WPBmS)

258 McCain though? *shudder* I think he would have been as bad as Obama. No hyperbole. - We'd be at least up to WWV by now.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 11:35 AM (kL7D3)

259 I've been to Dubuque. Guessing most Iowans wouldn't want me drawing any conclusions from that.

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:35 AM (/29Nl)

260

The only guy I actually like is Rand Paul, and I don't think he's electable.  Also, media, media, Democrats, yeah. 

 

So to stay sane I just rejoice in the 22nd Amendment.  Somebody other than Obama will be president.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 20, 2014 11:35 AM (A0sHn)

261 I'd take Cruz, Paul or Perry over any RINO they want to foist on us. Yep and Perry is a RINO but he did OK for Texas. Rubio is dead to me after that amnesty crap. Any one of those 3 is better than Shrillary!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 20, 2014 11:35 AM (cCxiu)

262 The Hoover Presidential Library is in IA. The Amana Colonies are pretty cool. Buddy Holley and Richie Valens and The Big Bopper died in IA.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 11:36 AM (32Ze2)

263 213 I was considering Rand Paul seriously, until I saw the bit today about him wanting to restore voting rights to felons.
When I paid off my mortgage I no longer had to make mortgage payments.
When you have paid your debt to society you shouldn't have to keep paying.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 20, 2014 11:36 AM (kVfSG)

264 Cruz or Paul would wipe the floor in a debate with Perry.

Posted by: brak at February 20, 2014 11:36 AM (M2qTM)

265 Okay. THAT'S IT! I'VE HAD IT WITH ALL THIS CIRCULAR FIRE SQUADDING! I'm hauling out the big guns. And by big guns I mean Kate Upton eating a popsicle. http://bit.ly/1oXaVa7 Sekrit to BC: You had one job!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 11:36 AM (VtjlW)

266 240 Coincidence?

I think not.


http://yhoo.it/1hzgx9O

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 03:32 PM (VtjlW)


Heather, ju got some splainin' to do!

Posted by: joncelli at February 20, 2014 11:36 AM (RD7QR)

267 I went to Andorra once, so some dude from the BHA admin wants me to be, like, the ambassador or something. 


interesting mini-country; smuggling is the national pastime

Posted by: Jules ( turning Chinese ) at February 20, 2014 11:36 AM (omBWL)

268 "I'll admit, I came around on Romney. He definitely wasn't as conservative as I'd like, but I think he would have made a very good president."

We would have had Vice President Ryan pushing a full bore amnesty program by the end of the first month of the Romney administration.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 20, 2014 11:36 AM (gqT4g)

269

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand

 

Any relation to Old Shatterhand?

Posted by: Karl May at February 20, 2014 11:37 AM (A0sHn)

270 The Hoover Presidential Library is in IA. See - you thought I was joking when I said he might be visiting a tourist attraction.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:37 AM (4+AaH)

271 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 20, 2014 03:36 PM (kVfSG)

I agree with Paul if he is supporting restoring rights to those who have paid their debts to society. If he wants to do what Holder wants to do, then no I'm good.

Since Holder wants them to vote while imprisoned.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:37 AM (buZ/8)

272 I wouldn't mind Paul because yes, he really is as bug fuck crazy as his pappy

Posted by: The Dude at February 20, 2014 11:37 AM (bStrg)

273 -
Katy Perry "Dark Horse"
Posted by: Sphynx at February 20, 2014 03:28 PM

-------------------------------------------

Sarah Jessica Parker  "Horse Horse"

Posted by: irright at February 20, 2014 11:37 AM (pMGkg)

274 Well, Cruz would wipe the floor in any debate. Wasn't he the national debate champ in college or something like that?

Posted by: Lauren at February 20, 2014 11:37 AM (hFL/3)

275 I wouldn't mind dropping bombs on our enemies under President McCain. Fighting wars of occupation, not so much, but the 50,000 foot wars I like. Hell of a lot cheaper.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 20, 2014 11:37 AM (Ec6wH)

276 Then you sir are clearly a RINO fuck and not welcome at my table. Unless you're going to provide me with some really cool cheat codes for some really cool games. In that case, you can stay. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 03:34 PM (da5Wo) GOD MODE.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 11:38 AM (VtjlW)

277 Cruz or Paul would wipe the floor in a debate with Perry. Like debates really matter. Newt Gingrich is ferocious in debates. And?

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:38 AM (4+AaH)

278 I think the warmongering tendencies of McCain are seriously overrated, but he would definitely be more willing to use the military than even President Obama. We'd have boots on the ground in Egypt and Syria, probably.
But then, I am pretty sure he's insane, as in really certifiably mentally deranged so who the hell knows?
And yet, I still think he'd be better.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:38 AM (zfY+H)

279 From all available 2012 evidence, Rick Perry studied at the Guiliani/Thompson School of Not Even Halfhearted Campaigns.

Posted by: tsj017 at February 20, 2014 11:38 AM (4YUWF)

280


And by big guns I mean Kate Upton eating a popsicle.

 

 

AtC, I know the line is long, but where is the back of it so that I may join and worship you?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 20, 2014 11:38 AM (A0sHn)

281 yup, we are gonna have the war of the roses the next election cycle.

Posted by: willow at February 20, 2014 11:38 AM (nqBYe)

282 If you want to shut down Paul, ask him about the Amero

Posted by: The Dude at February 20, 2014 11:39 AM (bStrg)

283 275 I wouldn't mind dropping bombs on our enemies under President McCain. Fighting wars of occupation, not so much, but the 50,000 foot wars I like. Hell of a lot cheaper. We'd be dropping bombs on Syrian Christians for our Al Qaeda allies under McCain right now.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 20, 2014 11:39 AM (WPBmS)

284 219  I seem to remember her pushing the "don't you gardisil our kids!" thing before Perry was mentioned as a candidate, so she might have been setting up her attack.  Maybe not.

It's a shame.  I liked early Hot Air. 

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 20, 2014 11:39 AM (qiXMt)

285 274 Well, Cruz would wipe the floor in any debate. Wasn't he the national debate champ in college or something like that?

Posted by: Lauren at February 20, 2014 03:37 PM (hFL/3)


It would be so awesome to see him trash Hillary a la Newt.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:39 AM (buZ/8)

286 Sekrit to BC: You had one job! Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 03:36 PM (VtjlW) I stormed into the thread demanding to know who wouldn't vote for Rick Perry, who is clearly the biggest badass in politics and would destroy any of these RINO pussy candidates that keep getting bandied about. I also called a cob a fucking RINO. Again. What more do you want?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 11:39 AM (da5Wo)

287 I say good. Considering the field will more than likely include the likes of Cruz, Rand and perhaps Walker. Much deeper bench than last time. I hope it's deep enough to overcome the GOP/MFM fix.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:39 AM (olDqf)

288 Rand Paul is starting with the minority pandering bullshit As bad as Republicans are with that shit, compared to Democrats, libertarians are even worse..

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:39 AM (U+u4A)

289 Or his relationship with racist anti-semetic Southern Avenger

Posted by: The Dude at February 20, 2014 11:39 AM (bStrg)

290 We'd be dropping bombs on Syrian Christians for our Al Qaeda allies under McCain right now. Gotta bomb something...

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 20, 2014 11:40 AM (Ec6wH)

291 Any relation to Old Shatterhand? It's a reference to the diabolical Ernst Blofeld's assumed identity in the book version of You Only Live Twice.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 20, 2014 11:40 AM (n/ogz)

292 One of the Rick Perry stories that I like is that a coyote attacked his dog so he pulled out a pistol he was carrying and shot the coyote dead.


I'd like to see him do that to a reporter but I am not sure how that would go over with the voters.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 20, 2014 11:40 AM (BcCwi)

293 And by big guns I mean Kate Upton eating a popsicle. http://bit.ly/1oXaVa7 Sekrit to BC: You had one job! Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 03:36 PM (VtjlW) I have to admit I was skeptical on this whole "Empress" and Alextopia business. But color me convinced.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:40 AM (4+AaH)

294 267 I went to Andorra once, so some dude from the BHA admin wants me to be, like, the ambassador or something. Posted by: Jules ( turning Chinese ) at February 20, 2014 03:36 PM (omBWL)
Those are the blue people on Star Trek.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 20, 2014 11:40 AM (kVfSG)

295 I wonder what rocks on his ranch will be "discovered" this time...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:40 AM (olDqf)

296 277 Cruz or Paul would wipe the floor in a debate with Perry.

Like debates really matter.

Newt Gingrich is ferocious in debates. And?

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 03:38 PM (4+AaH)


Yes they do. Did you sleep throughout the entire 2012 campaign? The new flavor of the week in the primary was entirely the result of the debates.


If Romney had won the second debate against Obama, he would be president now.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:40 AM (buZ/8)

297 When I paid off my mortgage I no longer had to make mortgage payments. When you have paid your debt to society you shouldn't have to keep paying. I find this horrifically simplistic. There is no right to vote, and if the representatives of a particular state see fit to remove that right from those who are convicted of something serious enough to warrant more than a year in prison, that's perfectly reasonable as a position. I'm on the side of those who don't want convicted criminals to have a say in the laws that affect them, particularly with the rates of recidivism as high as they are.

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:40 AM (/29Nl)

298 I'd like to see him do that to a reporter but I am not sure how that would go over with the voters. We'd have to get reporters reclassified as "nuisance animals."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:41 AM (PYAXX)

299 So Mr. Perry, WTF is wrong with you? Why, why? Why wouldn't you just walk off into the sunset and enjoy life? Personally, I think you are qualified and I would vote for you....But, what are ya, Fucking nuts????

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 20, 2014 11:41 AM (HVff2)

300 Regarding voting for felons: some things you do demonstrate that you're unfit for full access to the benefits of society, even after paying the initial price.
Whether that's true of all felons or not is something we can debate, but the "they paid their price" is not exactly true; its a permanent mark on their record, they are viewed less amicably by the courts, and in the case of sexual offenders, you NEVER finish paying your price.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:41 AM (zfY+H)

301 Perry is the one person who seems to want to position himself as the anti-Washington candidate.  He is also the only one who has proposed cutting back the power of the beltway and actually shrink the federal leviathan (yeah, I know: insert three joke here).

I do not know if he can get the nod, but I would rather him than anyone else, even over Cruz.


Posted by: Dandolo at February 20, 2014 11:41 AM (0XBx+)

302 remove that right remove that privilege

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:41 AM (/29Nl)

303 292 One of the Rick Perry stories that I like is that a coyote attacked his dog so he pulled out a pistol he was carrying and shot the coyote dead. I'd like to see him do that to a reporter but I am not sure how that would go over with the voters. Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 20, 2014 03:40 PM (BcCwi) wasn't that while he was jogging? swoon......

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 7 days (1wk) until spring training at February 20, 2014 11:41 AM (u8GsB)

304 Second look at Alan Keyes?

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 11:41 AM (/o+xv)

305 Oh, fiddle faddle. 

Wick Pehrwee is not sehrwious about wunning.

I'm going to just stay home with Selfie this weekend.

Posted by: Babwa Waltehrs at February 20, 2014 11:41 AM (OZmbA)

306 It would be so awesome to see him trash Hillary a la Newt. Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 03:39 PM (buZ/ Cruz is probably the only candidate that might ignore the "winning" Rovian advice to speak no ill of Hillary (or Bill, or Obama, or...) and go for the Gold!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 20, 2014 11:41 AM (o3MSL)

307 Don't make me destroy you Governor Perry, stay in Iowa.

Posted by: Ted Fucking Cruz at February 20, 2014 11:42 AM (hn70M)

308 "If Romney had won the second debate against Obama, he would be president now."
You keep tellin' yourself that.
If debates mattered, Obama's incredibly disastrous performance at the first one would have sunk him permanently. Utterly bombing in a catastrophic failure then tying doesn't = win.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:42 AM (zfY+H)

309 One of the BIG problems is the primary schedule. All the big blue states are stacked up first. The field really does make a difference. And the sooner we can rally around a true conservative the better.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:42 AM (olDqf)

310 If Romney had won the second debate against Obama, he would be president now. Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 03:40 PM (buZ/ Biggest chuckle of the day. Thanks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 20, 2014 11:42 AM (HVff2)

311

We'd have to get reporters reclassified as "nuisance animals."

 

I'm not a Perry fan, but him shooting a coyote was awesome.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 20, 2014 11:42 AM (A0sHn)

312 "When you have paid your debt to society you shouldn't have to keep paying."

In theory I endorse this principle, but in practice I believe that the majority of felons coming through our misnamed "justice system" don't come ANYWHERE close to paying the actual debt they owe society for their crimes.

Shit, here in Commiefornia, you can go up on murder one, and be back out walking the streets a free man less than a decade later.

Keeping the vote out of those guys' hands is all right by me. Least we can do.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 20, 2014 11:42 AM (gqT4g)

313 We'd have to get reporters reclassified as "nuisance animals." Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 03:41 PM (PYAXX) Where do I sign?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 11:43 AM (da5Wo)

314 304 Second look at Alan Keyes? Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 03:41 PM (/o+xv) I'd rather look at Alicia Keyes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:43 AM (olDqf)

315 Bring it cowboy!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 20, 2014 11:43 AM (GjPnA)

316 Why all the love for Rick Perry?

Posted by: Draki at February 20, 2014 11:43 AM (L8r/r)

317 Romeny is president-- of Peruvia-Romnania.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:43 AM (olDqf)

318 See - you thought I was joking when I said he might be visiting a tourist attraction. Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 03:37 PM (4+AaH) The future birth place of Capt. James Kirk is in Iowa

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 20, 2014 11:43 AM (R8hU8)

319 Even more than last time, the GOP establishment is front loading the primaries to make sure they get their approved guy through, and shut those damn Tea Partiers and their grass roots core of the party up.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:44 AM (zfY+H)

320 300 Regarding voting for felons: some things you do demonstrate that you're unfit for full access to the benefits of society, even after paying the initial price.

Whether that's true of all felons or not is something we can debate, but the "they paid their price" is not exactly true; its a permanent mark on their record, they are viewed less amicably by the courts, and in the case of sexual offenders, you NEVER finish paying your price.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 03:41 PM (zfY+H)


Well then they should be kept in jail then. Otherwise they should be free to vote as a private citizen.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:44 AM (buZ/8)

321 Ben might be a lefty a-hole, but he obviously has a certain level of compassion for the people of Congo, so I can't really hold that against him.

Posted by: SIG NEEDED at February 20, 2014 11:45 AM (q177U)

322 I am sure there is a Transgender hating rock and a Misogynist rock on the ranch too. They'll be found. We're warming up the old Selectric just in case that doesn't sink him. /CBS Neauzzzzz

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 11:45 AM (32Ze2)

323 Having said that, if Rand Paul will enforce the border and tighten up election laws to dramatically reduce voter fraud, I'd be ok with a 10th amendment discretion for states to allow non-violent felons to vote. It doesn't ruin Rand Paul for me as a candidate, but I think we can do better.

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:45 AM (/29Nl)

324 Ahhh, hell. I'd be happy if we could just keep the felons out of congress.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 11:46 AM (XUKZU)

325

Bush is the worst lier and should be in jail now people. This bothers me more then anything else goping wrong in this country that President Obama is trying to fix. Bush lied and America died !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

George W. Bush has relentlessly abused the truth. In "The Lies Of George W. Bush: Mastering The Politics Of Deception" (Crown Publishers, October 2003)—a steely and scathing indictment of the president and his advisers—David Corn, the Washington editor of The Nation and a Fox News Channel contributor, reveals and examines the deceptions at the heart of the Bush presidency. In a stunning piece of journalism, he details and substantiates the all-too many times Bush and his aides have knowingly misled the American public to advance their own interests and agenda. 

Bush has lied his way through most serious policy matters (as well as through his bid for the presidency).  So here is a painfully constructed list—arranged in quasi-chronological order--that demonstrates the severity and range of BushÂ’s serial lying but that only skims the surface. Details that support this are below:

10. "I have been very candid about my past." Bush said this during a press conference a few days before Election Day 2000. He was then in the middle of media firestorm that followed the revelation that he had once been arrested for drunken driving. Of course, this statement was untrue. He uttered it while he was trying to explain why he had not been "candid" about his arrest record. And during the campaign, he had not been "candid" about other significant matters, including what seemed to be a missing year in his National Guard service (which did not jibe with what he wrote about his service in his autobiography) and his apparent (though unacknowledged) shift from supporting abortion rights in the late-1970s to opposing them in the 1990s. He also was not "candid" about the tax plans he had pushed while governor of Texas. He always referred to them as "tax cuts" and did not mention that his major tax proposal included both tax cuts for property owners and an increase in the sales tax and the creation of a new business tax.


9. "I’m a uniter not a divider." This was a Bush catchphrase, a mantra. It was shorthand for his claim that he engaged in positive, not negative, politics and could heal a political culture ripped apart by the bitter ideological and partisan combat of the Clinton years. Yet during the 2000 presidential campaign and the Florida fracas, Bush and his lieutenants engaged in down-and-dirty and divisive political maneuvers. Just ask Senator John McCain, Bush’s main Republican opponent, whose record on veterans affairs was falsely attacked by a Bush surrogate and who was accused falsely by the Bush campaign of opposing research for breast cancer. As president-elect, Bush nominated one of the most divisive ideologues in Washington, former Senator John Ashcroft, to be attorney general. During a pre-inauguration interview, Bush acknowledged that he expected Ashcroft to be a lightning rod. But would-be uniters-not-dividers do not shove lightning rods up the backsides of their opponents. Another example: during the 2002 congressional campaign, Bush accused Democrats—who differed with him on employment rules for the new Department of Homeland Security—of sacrificing national security for their own petty purposes. He did this to help elect Republicans to office. Such a move was well within his rights as a political player, but not the action of a fellow who cares more about uniting than dividing.

8. "My plan unlocks the door to the middle class of millions of hard-working Americans." All the available slots of this top-ten list could be filled by statements Bush made to sell his tax cuts at various points—on the campaign trail, in 2001 (for the first major tax-cuts battle), and in 2003 (for the second major tax-cuts battle). But I chose an assertion from 2001 that echoed statements from the campaign trail, that would be reprised in 2003, and that represented the best-sounding argument for his tax cuts. Bush frequently claimed his tax cuts would help low- and middle-income Americans, and in 2000 and 2001 he often spoke of a mythical single-mom waitress, making $22,000 or so, who would be guided into the middle-class by his tax cuts. The point was to make it seem as if he truly cared for hard-pressed Americans and that his tax cuts did indeed embody his promise of "compassionate conservatism." (By the way, I am not placing on this list Bush’s claim that he is a "compassionate conservative." That’s a rather relative term more suitable for judgment than truth-based evaluation.) But when the accounting firm of Deloitte & Touche reviewed his tax plan for Time magazine during the 2000 campaign, it found that his beloved waitress would receive no reduction in her taxes. Zippo. In 2001, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities found that this waitress might gain $200 from Bush’s tax cuts if she managed to pull in $25,000 a year. But such a sum would not place her on the highway to the middle class. In fact, about 12 million low- and moderate-income families received no tax relief from Bush’s 2001 tax cuts (and millions of families were left out of his 2003 package). His plan unlocked few doors. Instead, about 45 percent of the 2001 package was slated to go to the top 1 percent of income earners. In 2003, Citizens for Tax Justice calculated that individuals earning between $16,000 and $29,000 would net about $99 from Bush’s proposed tax cuts. Again, not an amount that would cover the entrance fee for a middle-class life.

7. "This allows us to explore the promise and potential of stem cell research." That was what Bush said during an August 9, 2001, speech, announcing his decision to permit the federal funding of stem cell research that only used stem cells lines that existed before his speech. Bush was presenting his policy as a Solomon-like compromise. Religious right leaders and the Catholic Church were opposed to all stem cell research because it uses cells extracted from five-day old blastocysts (or embryos) in a process that destroys the embryos. (These embryos usually are leftovers created by in vitro fertilization at fertility clinics and no longer needed by the couples for which they were produced). But many prominent Republican donors and patient advocacy groups supported stem cell research, noting that scientists believed that studying stem cells (which have the potential to grow into any one of the more than 200 different types of human cells) could lead to treatments for Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s and other terrible diseases. In his speech, Bush said that 60 stem cell lines already existed—"where the life and death decision has already been made"--and that these lines could support a vital and vibrant research effort. Consequently, he said, federally funding could be limited to underwriting research that employed only these lines. Bush was trying to have it both ways. He could appease his social conservative supporters by saying no to any federal support for new stem cell lines, and he could claim to support research that might potentially help millions of people. There was one problem. The 60 pre-existing lines did not exist. The number was closer to a dozen—if that—an amount that experts in the field did not consider sufficient for research purposes. And when scientists and media reports convincingly discredited Bush’s count—which Bush might have initially assumed to be correct—the Bush administration kept repeating its untruthful position. Sticking to the 60-lines fantasy (or lie) permitted Bush to avoid making an explicit decision to curtail stem cell research. But in effect that was what he had done without admitting it.


6. "We must uncover every detail and learn every lesson of September the 11th." Bush said this in November 2002, as he appointed Henry Kissinger to be chairman of an independent 9/11 commission that Bush had orignially opposed. (Kissinger lasted two weeks in the job.) But Bush has not encouraged the uncovering of every detail. His administration did not turn over information to the congressional 9/11 inquiry about intelligence warnings the White House reviewed before 9/11. The administration also refused to say whether certain pre-9/11 intelligence warnings—including a July 2001 report noting that Osama bin Laden was poised to launch a "spectacular" attack "designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. facilities or interests"—were shared with Bush and what he did in response, if he had received them. Moreover, the administration claimed that Bush’s awareness of these warnings (not the warnings themselves) was classified information—an argument unprecedented in the modern history of national security secrets. Bush also refused to let the congressional inquiry release the portion of its final report that concerned connections between the 9/11 hijackers and Saudi citizens or officials. By resorting to such secrecy—which happened to keep hidden information that might be embarrassing or inconvenient for the Bush administration--Bush made it impossible for investigators to "uncover every detail" and for the nation to "learn every lesson."


5. "[We are] taking every possible step to protect our country from danger." Bush said that a month after 9/11, and he has repeated that vow several times since then, including at the start of his recent month-long vacation at his Texas ranch. Every possible step? A reassuring line, but it is not true. Two years after the attacks, there still is no plan for enhanced security at the nation’s thousands of chemical plants. (Over a hundred of them handle chemicals that if released could threaten a million or so Americans.) According to the General Accounting Office, the Bush administration has not even "comprehensively assessed the chemical industry’s vulnerabilities to terrorist attacks." In October 2002, Tom Ridge, Bush’s chief homeland security official, said that voluntary regulations for the chemical industry would not suffice, but that is the policy the administration has been slowly pursuing. And less-than-everything has been the approach in other critical areas. A recent report from a Council on Foreign Relations task force—headed up by former Republican Senator Warren Rudman—says that not enough has been done to improve the abilities of first responders and that their basic needs will be underfunded by $100 billion over the next five years. The nation’s ports have asked for $1 billion to beef up security; the Bush administration has announced grants of $300 million. Various reports note that the federal government has not done all that is necessary to improve its biodefense capabilities. The administration has opposed efforts to mandate the screening of commercial cargo carried by passenger aircraft. (Most of this sort of cargo is not currently screened—creating one large security loophole.) So "every possible step" has not been taken.


4. "I first got to know Ken [Lay in 1994]." As the Enron scandal reached the White House in early 2002, Bush uttered this remark, claiming he had nothing to do with Lay until after winning the 1994 Texas gubernatorial election. It was an apparent and clumsy effort to diminish his relationship with the now-disgraced Enron chief. But in1994, Lay and Enron had been leading contributors to Bush’s campaign. And Lay—long a patron of Bush’s father—had worked with Bush in political settings prior to 1994. In a pre-scandal interview, Lay noted he had been "very close to George W." for years before1994. (In the mid-1980s, Bush’s oil venture was in a partnership with Enron.) Bush also claimed that his administration had been of absolutely no help to Enron. That might have been true during the scam-based company’s final days. But in the months preceding that, the Bush administration had assisted Enron in a variety of ways. This included appointing individuals recommended by Lay as top energy regulators and opposing wholesale price caps on electricity during the California energy crisis, a move that came after Lay (whose electricity-selling company was using manipulative tactics to gouge California) urged the White House to block price caps.


3. "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." And, "[Saddam Hussein is] a threat because he is dealing with al Qaeda." These two Bush remarks go hand in hand, even though the first was said on March 17, 2003, two days before Bush launched the invasion of Iraq, and the other came during a November 7, 2002, press conference. Together they represented his argument for war: Hussein possessed actual weapons of mass destruction and at any moment could hand them to his supposed partners in al Qaeda. That is why Hussein was an immediate threat to the United States and had to be taken out quickly. But neither of these assertions were truthful. There has been much media debate over all this. But the postwar statements of Richard Kerr, a former deputy director of the CIA, provide the most compelling proof. He has been conducting a review of the prewar intelligence, and he has told reporters that the intelligence on HusseinÂ’s WMDs was full of caveats and qualifiers and based mostly on inferential or circumstantial evidence. In other words, it was not no-doubt material. He also has said that prewar intelligence reports did not contain evidence of links between Hussein and al Qaeda. The best information to date indicates that the prewar intelligence did not leave "no doubt" about WMDs and did not support BushÂ’s claim that Hussein was in cahoots with al Qaeda. BushÂ’s primary reason for war was founded on falsehoods


2. "We found the weapons of mass destruction." Bush issued this triumphant remark in late May 2003, while being interviewed by a Polish television reporter. He was referring to two tractor-trailers obtained by U.S. forces in Iraq. The CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency had concluded these vehicles were mobile bio-weapons plants. Yet they had found not a trace of biological agents on either. (And no bio-weapon facility could be scrubbed completely clean.) In subsequent weeks, it turned out that State Department analysts and even DIA engineering experts—as well as outside experts—did not accept the CIA and DIA conclusion, and some of these doubters believed the explanation of Iraqis who claimed the trucks were built to produce hydrogen for weather balloons. Whichever side might be ultimately right about the trailers, this all-important piece of evidence was hotly contested. It was hardly solid enough to support Bush’s we-found-them declaration or to justify a war.


1. "ItÂ’s time to restore honor and dignity to the White House." Bush said that many a time during the 2000 presidential campaign, and in at least one ad pledged to "return honor and integrity" to the Oval Office. See above--and read the book.



All presidents have lied, but George W. Bush has relentlessly abused the truth. In THE LIES OF GEORGE W. BUSH: MASTERING THE POLITICS OF DECEPTION (Crown Publishers, October 2003)—a steely and scathing indictment of the president and his advisers—David Corn, the Washington editor of The Nation and a Fox News Channel contributor, reveals and examines the deceptions at the heart of the Bush presidency. In a stunning piece of journalism, he details and substantiates the all-too many times Bush and his aides have knowingly misled the American public to advance their own interests and agenda.

When campaigning for the presidency, Bush vowed to “restore” honor and integrity to the Oval Office, but Corn uses the president’s own words and deeds to prove beyond a doubt that this claim was the first lie of many. In other instances of presidential prevarication, Bush has:

• Brazenly misrepresented intelligence data and relied on dishonest arguments to whip up support for war with Iraq;

• Made numerous false statements about the provisions and effects of his super-sized tax cuts;

• Offered disingenuous and misleading explanations about the 9/11 attacks, the war on terrorism, and homeland security;

• Lied about his connections—and those of his administration—to corporate crooks;

• Presented deceptive claims to sell controversial policies on the environment, stem cell research, missile defense, abortion, energy, Social Security, health care, education, and other crucial issues;

• Dishonestly claimed to be a positive campaigner while engaging in deceitful and down-and-dirty tactics during the 2000 presidential campaign and recount drama.

The Lies Of George W. Bush is no partisan whine. It is a carefully constructed, well-developed, and convincing fact-driven account that shows how Bush has consistently relied upon duplicity to wage political and policy battles. The book covers lies Bush told as a presidential candidate (“I have been very candid about my past”); in his first days in office (“We pulled back [the arsenic standard] so that we could make a decision based upon sound science”); while selling a war to the American people (“Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapon ever devised”); and as a crusader for tax cuts (“Tax relief for everybody . . . while still reducing our national debt and funding important priorities”). Corn explains with wit and style how Bush managed to get away with it, and he explores the dangerous consequences of White House deceit in a perilous age.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at February 20, 2014 11:46 AM (h0ygp)

326 Cruz is probably the only candidate that might ignore the "winning" Rovian advice to speak no ill of Hillary (or Bill, or Obama, or...) and go for the Gold! Obviously Rand Paul has already gone there, and he is doing yeoman's work. I liked Instapundit's characterization of it as battlespace prep. Instead of quaking in fear of speaking ill of Hillary, EVERY GOPer, running or not, should be doing this battlespace prep, because the media will not do it for them. Like they are already attacking Christie and Walker. Don't let Lee Atwater have died in vain. Go for the negative campaign, and go for the wedge issues.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 11:46 AM (4+AaH)

327 You keep tellin' yourself that.

If debates mattered, Obama's incredibly disastrous performance at the first one would have sunk him permanently. Utterly bombing in a catastrophic failure then tying doesn't = win.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 03:42 PM (zfY+H)

He WAS losing. Then Romney lost the final two debates. Then hurricane Sandy sealed it.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:46 AM (buZ/8)

328 323 Having said that, if Rand Paul will enforce the border and tighten up election laws to dramatically reduce voter fraud, I'd be ok with a 10th amendment discretion for states to allow non-violent felons to vote. It doesn't ruin Rand Paul for me as a candidate, but I think we can do better. Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 03:45 PM (/29Nl) *********** I hate to be overly political but-- how many ex-convicts are going to vote Republican?

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 11:46 AM (RJMhd)

329 Do we really want politicians pandering for the felon vote? Really? Can you fucking IMAGINE what they'd promise?

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:47 AM (/29Nl)

330 I wonder if he listed Argo as "evidence" of his expertise--because hey-- Close enough!!! Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 03:25 PM (RJMhd) --- American culture has encouraged the Hollywood stars to believe in their own Walter Mitty playacting. Afflect attempted to contribute help - which is great. Somehow, helping transformed in his mind to expertise. They lack any reality check on their real abilities, and the world has given them a huge pr cannon to aim at anything they chose. A very dangerous combination.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 20, 2014 11:47 AM (0KmDt)

331 293 And by big guns I mean Kate Upton eating a popsicle. http://bit.ly/1oXaVa7 Kate Upton? Or, the *real* Ace of Spades? Who knows???

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 20, 2014 11:47 AM (6Nj7A)

332 Speaking of screaming about preferred candidates....I got an email the other day from Rubio. He was trying to get people to donate to Tom Cotton. I almost pissed myself laughing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 11:47 AM (da5Wo)

333 Iowa thinks it has it bad? We're stuck with 'the world's largest hand dug well.'

Posted by: Kansas at February 20, 2014 11:47 AM (n0SOW)

334 A douche says what?

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 20, 2014 11:47 AM (xrX4n)

335 Typical MFM Puffington Ho header: "Republican governor promises to keep union jobs out of her state" It should read, Republican governor vows to keep business crushing unions out of the state to preserve the economy. Bastards.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:47 AM (olDqf)

336 Kay, that Blimline chap needs to go.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at February 20, 2014 11:48 AM (9LuAk)

337 Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at February 20, 2014 03:46 PM (h0ygp)


tl;dr wall o'text.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 20, 2014 11:48 AM (bCEmE)

338 Drive-by rant dump... that's a paddlin'

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 20, 2014 11:48 AM (xrX4n)

339 Dorcus Blimline if you are for real fuck off

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 7 days (1wk) until spring training at February 20, 2014 11:48 AM (u8GsB)

340 325 Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at February 20, 2014 03:46 PM (h0ygp) What is THAT????? Step on that, Ace.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:48 AM (olDqf)

341 Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at February 20, 2014 03:46 PM (h0ygp) What in the fucking fuck, man?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 11:48 AM (da5Wo)

342 @251 Examples? If you mean in Iraq, he chose force protectjon over PC BS. If I was in the military I would request transfer to his unit were he allowed to keep his job.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 11:48 AM (UYe47)

343 I hate to be overly political but-- how many ex-convicts are going to vote Republican? Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 03:46 PM (RJMhd) ____________________ You said "ex" right?

Posted by: Jesse Jackpot Jr at February 20, 2014 11:49 AM (32Ze2)

344 Wew I newer finsished my Stwowy Fwom Wast Night. So thew I was, with Janet Weno and Helen Thomas. We wewe on ou second pictwure of Havey Wawbangers. When I said out wowd, "my neck is weawey swoare." "So wiwaout wowning Janet Weno (who was still AG at the time) sawts wubbing my neck. Suddenwy I fewt somwthing in my wady pawts stawt to tignwle. When Hewen Thomas came ovewa and satated wubbing my feet! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Posted by: Babawa WaWa at February 20, 2014 11:49 AM (/o+xv)

345 What the hell was that steaming pile of crazy?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:49 AM (PYAXX)

346 "If Romney had won the second debate against Obama, he would be president now."

Eh, I think his first debate definitely helped, but I think the hurricane sank whatever momentum Romney had. 

Then again the polls we were looking at were skewed and we were caught off guard by how correct the ones we weren't looking at were.

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 20, 2014 11:49 AM (qiXMt)

347 Ah, Perry the Governor, how unexpected! And by "unexpected" I mean, COMPLETELY EXPECTED!

Posted by: Andrew S. at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (GQ/p6)

348 Listening to Trump on Michael Savage right now muse about running for President. Are we going to do that charade again too?

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (n/ogz)

349 The bitch stepped on my joke!

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (6Nj7A)

350 Do we really want politicians pandering for the felon vote?

Really? Can you fucking IMAGINE what they'd promise?
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And if I am elected I will make it possible for sex offenders to adopt children.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (XUKZU)

351 Throw that post down the well.

Posted by: Kansas at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (n0SOW)

352 American culture has encouraged the Hollywood stars to believe in their own Walter Mitty playacting. Afflect attempted to contribute help - which is great. Somehow, helping transformed in his mind to expertise. They lack any reality check on their real abilities, and the world has given them a huge pr cannon to aim at anything they chose. A very dangerous combination. Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 20, 2014 03:47 PM (0KmDt) **************** Absolutely correct. I also think they know on a subconscious level that they really didn't earn the level of fame that they have attained--that a large portion of it was--luck. The guilt of that makes them uber liberals.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (RJMhd)

353 Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 20, 2014 03:50 PM (n/ogz) Depends on how much money Trump thinks he can make off running for President.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (PYAXX)

354 I learned from another thread today that particle walls of text will not protect you from Russian government snipers. Better luck next time Blimpie.

Posted by: AMDG at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (t7OO0)

355 Free shit + crony payoffs >> debate performance!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (o3MSL)

356 329 Do we really want politicians pandering for the felon vote?

Really? Can you fucking IMAGINE what they'd promise?

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 03:47 PM (/29Nl)


What will they give them?

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (buZ/8)

357 The worlds largest Wooden Nickel is in IA City.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 11:50 AM (32Ze2)

358 Good lawd, a wall of BDS. Is this 2004?

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 11:51 AM (UYe47)

359 Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at February 20, 2014 03:46 PM (h0ygp)

You could have just told us your and idiot and saved a buttload of space.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 11:51 AM (BZAd3)

360 348 Listening to Trump on Michael Savage right now muse about running for President. Are we going to do that charade again too? Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 20, 2014 03:50 PM (n/ogz) Trump is fucking politically stupid that he didn't realize Buzzfeed was going to do a hit piece on him. Excellent work Donald.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 11:51 AM (da5Wo)

361
He WAS losing. Then Romney lost the final two debates. Then hurricane Sandy sealed it.
Posted by: NWConservative



Unskewedreality.com....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 20, 2014 11:51 AM (kdS6q)

362 The guilt of that makes them uber liberals. Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 03:50 PM (RJMhd) They really didn't build that!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 20, 2014 11:51 AM (o3MSL)

363 Hey Dorcus!  2007 called.  It wants its Democrat politics back.

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 20, 2014 11:51 AM (qiXMt)

364 That's true, but at the same time, it wasn't his idea to make 2012 about how much Republicans hate vaccines. Thanks Malkin and Bachmann. Thanks a freaken lot. Ahh yes. The "tardisil" and "Liquid Whore" incidents. Good times my friends, good times...

Posted by: Timon at February 20, 2014 11:51 AM (kAniV)

365 Wait... wait... We forgot something. All trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:51 AM (PYAXX)

366 The Worlds Largest Cheeto is in Algona IA.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 11:52 AM (32Ze2)

367 why doesn't this post have the pic of the two buxom gals in bikinis with "Rick Perry" written accross the top?

Oh, is it 'cause Ace is all high an' mighty now and is too good for cheap hit-whoring?

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 20, 2014 11:52 AM (VjL9S)

368 Blimline is ready,, and so am I...

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 20, 2014 11:52 AM (GjPnA)

369 That storm that hit New York, man people are convinced that's what turned it all around and sunk Romney. If it only hadn't been for the storm.
It wasn't a storm that gave Obama the win. I don't think it made a bit of difference to anyone in their voting.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:52 AM (zfY+H)

370 Dorcus did a copy and past from here:  http://tinyurl.com/2bts4o

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 20, 2014 11:52 AM (bCEmE)

371 I had a serious case of Dorcus Blimline once. Almost dehydrated me. Ended up with less toilet paper in the house then the average Venezuelan.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 20, 2014 11:52 AM (CnA98)

372 The pod fapcast is kind of draining. Posted by: ace at February 20, 2014 03:09 PM (/FnUH) FIFY

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (HsTG8)

373 Speaking of Dowlad Twump. I call my new toy the Twump Tower. It wuns on a car battewie.

Posted by: Babawa WaWa at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (/o+xv)

374

I think it should be RON PAUL

 

Becoz we were told after Obama's first term that Romney was a shoe-in since he was milquetoast and everybody was tired of All-Drama Obama, they just wanted quiet competance.

 

And since that was obviously untrue, we need somebody who's gonna drum up the Controversy

Posted by: Bigby's Throbbing Thumb at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (3ZtZW)

375 All trolls are Average Joe. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 03:51 PM (PYAXX) ...who sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (da5Wo)

376 348 Listening to Trump on Michael Savage right now muse about running for President. Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 20, 2014 03:50 PM (n/ogz)
Savage has as much of a chance as Trump.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (kVfSG)

377 Dorcus did a copy and past Copy and past. I like that, especially in re: BDS.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (PYAXX)

378 What will they give them? Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 03:50 PM (buZ/ More "compassionate" sentencing guidelines. "There are too many families being broken up due to racist sentencing policies that do more harm than good."

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (/29Nl)

379 I don't care what Dorcus says, I think the Banana Slicer is a great product.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (Ec6wH)

380

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at February 20, 2014 03:46 PM (h0ygp)

 

Okay. Really.

Posted by: Bigby's Throbbing Thumb at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (3ZtZW)

381 Cruz is definitely cruisin' for money by visiting the conservative hollywood group. I wish we knew more about him. It seems everyone is trying to crush him, now. Especially the right. They say he is self-serving, arrogant, etc, but, I have to say, his bulldoggedness might just be what we need. He's definitely smart enough. And quick tongued enough.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (IXrOn)

382 I'll see your cheeto and raise you the 'largest ball of twine' in Cawker City, KS

Posted by: Kansas at February 20, 2014 11:53 AM (n0SOW)

383 Brandon IA is home to Iowa's Largest Frying Pan.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 11:54 AM (32Ze2)

384 Unfortunately the RNC is in charge of debates, primaries and all the rest. They will select fuckfaces like Candystore Crowley and Gwen Ifulloshit to be "moderators." I really hope the field takes the gloves off and gives them what for. I really do.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:54 AM (olDqf)

385 Say what you will ... but if Bachmann and Malkin are DTF, I'm DTF. I'm freaky like that.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 20, 2014 11:54 AM (5SH8W)

386 367 why doesn't this post have the pic of the two buxom gals in bikinis with "Rick Perry" written accross the top? -- I'd settle for that picture of Perry holding the black lab puppy.

Posted by: Y-not at February 20, 2014 11:54 AM (zDsvJ)

387

I like Perry a lot, but another TX governor? 

 

Reason I like Cruz is not only his fight but his very face and existence punches back five times as hard at the media's ID politics.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 20, 2014 11:54 AM (tVTLU)

388 Good lawd, a wall of BDS. Is this 2004? Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 03:51 PM The only thing that post was missing was a giant paper mache puppet.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 11:54 AM (/o+xv)

389 I don't care what Dorcus says, I think the Banana Slicer is a great product. I can't get past the fact the slicer bends to the right, but all the bananas I buy bend to the left.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:54 AM (PYAXX)

390 perry *clearly* didn't bring his 'A' game last time around. the story was back surgery plus pain pills made our man perry a very loopy boy. i'd have voted for him back then. then again, i'd have voted for ANYONE who wasn't obama.

Posted by: hack at February 20, 2014 11:55 AM (piR98)

391 Well then, Paul should let ex-felons have guns Fucking idiot

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:55 AM (U+u4A)

392

237...I'd be more than happy to see him run.

 

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

 

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Me too, NDH.

 

I don't care if he's not a great debater.

Debating skills are overrated...and not an indicator of good leadership skills.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 11:55 AM (DEUoo)

393

@213 I was considering Rand Paul seriously, until I saw the bit today about him wanting to restore voting rights to felons.

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Someone (Instapundit, I think) had an interesting note on this topic yesterday.  Being a felon used to be a big deal.  Felons were your big bads of society.  But nowadays, felonies include a lot of things that would have been misdemeanors in the past.

 

Given that, there's definitely an argument to be made about letting ex-felons have the right to vote.  I haven't examined the issue enough to decide whether I agree with it or not.  But there's definitely an argument there.

 

Posted by: junior at February 20, 2014 11:55 AM (UWFpX)

394 Given his record in Texas, Rick Perry had a chance.  And he blew it when he decided to run and debate without enough preparation.  Sorry, no secondsies.  I wish it wasn't true, but it is.  Now go away.

Posted by: microaggressor at February 20, 2014 11:56 AM (yhJhK)

395 I'll see your cheeto and raise you the 'largest ball of twine' in Cawker City, KS Posted by: Kansas at February 20, 2014 03:53 PM (n0SOW) ______________________ Ok. I see the gauntlet has been thrown. The HOBO Museum is located in BRITT IA!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 11:56 AM (32Ze2)

396 They could never paint Cruz as dumb, so they'd have to go for evil. Perry, not so much. I'd like to see an evil Republican with the nomination in 2016. It'd be nice to see the allegedly "brilliant" Hillary get rolled in the debates, but of course win or lose the GOP nominee's performance will automatically be sexist.

Posted by: brak at February 20, 2014 11:56 AM (M2qTM)

397 I can't get past the fact the slicer bends to the right, but all the bananas I buy bend to the left. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 ..Just adjust it in your pocket when nobody is looking.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 11:56 AM (/o+xv)

398 Mitt Romney as candidate kept the base home. Which is just what the GOP establishment wanted because they are a wing of the Democrats. The Dems let the GOP have some graft in exchange for being in power. Symbiotic relationship. Remoras/sharks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:56 AM (olDqf)

399

>>The Worlds Largest Cheeto is in Algona IA.

 

It was. Christie visited there a month ago

Posted by: Bigby's Throbbing Thumb at February 20, 2014 11:56 AM (3ZtZW)

400 On to the next contestant in the Proust summarizing contest...

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 20, 2014 11:56 AM (xrX4n)

401 Then again the polls we were looking at were skewed and we were caught off guard by how correct the ones we weren't looking at were.

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 20, 2014 03:49 PM (qiXMt)


The poll aggregate had Obama at nearly +7 before the first debate. After the debate it was Romney +1.


So yeah, polling was correct.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 11:56 AM (buZ/8)

402 Well then they should be kept in jail then. Otherwise they should be free to vote as a private citizen. Posted by: NWConservative ---------------------- I do not disagree with the first sentiment, but I do with the second. One is issued character, honesty, and integrity only once. When it is lost, it is lost forever. We have ceased to demand good behavior via the social sanction. The result is the collapse of civil society. It is the reason that nasty politicians (say, the Clintons) are still in positions of influence, and the reason that vulgar celebrities continue to rake in millions.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 20, 2014 11:57 AM (aDwsi)

403 Wasn't Rick strung out on Percodan?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:57 AM (olDqf)

404 Sorry, no secondsies. I wish it wasn't true, but it is. Now go away. Yeah! That's why Mitt Romney got absolutely flattened in the 2012 Primaries! Waaaaaait a minute...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:57 AM (PYAXX)

405 ..Just adjust it in your pocket when nobody is looking. Posted by: Minnfidel at February 20, 2014 03:56 PM (/o+xv) Are you my old gym teacher?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 20, 2014 11:57 AM (Ec6wH)

406 Hey Dorcus, the book you quote comes from 2003.  You know, back when the Dems assumed or hoped that Bush was a one-termer.  Anything happen since then?

Oh, and I take points off for not mentioning Prescott Bush. 

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 20, 2014 11:57 AM (qiXMt)

407 i'd have voted for him back then. then again, i'd have voted for ANYONE who wasn't obama. Posted by: hack at February 20, 2014 03:55 PM (piR9 Perry on heavy duty pain-killers would still be 1000x better than Obama in every freaking regard!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 20, 2014 11:57 AM (o3MSL)

408 325 needs to be banned.
For the idiocy.
For the wall of text....

Posted by: backhoe at February 20, 2014 11:58 AM (ULH4o)

409 Sorry, no secondsies. I wish it wasn't true, but it is. Now go away.

Posted by: microaggressor at February 20, 2014 03:56 PM (yhJhK)


Reagan ran twice and lost before he finally won.  Just sayin'

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 11:58 AM (BZAd3)

410 "Just adjust it in your pocket when nobody is looking."
Has any man ever managed that successfully? Someone always looks.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 11:58 AM (zfY+H)

411 389 I don't care what Dorcus says, I think the Banana Slicer is a great product. I can't get past the fact the slicer bends to the right, but all the bananas I buy bend to the left. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 03:54 PM (PYAXX) I used to have ice but the lady who had the recipe died, and so...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:58 AM (olDqf)

412 http://www.hobo.com/museum.html I present to those that a still skeptical. The Hobo Museum!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 11:58 AM (32Ze2)

413 The World's Biggest Piece of Shit is in Washington, DC

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:58 AM (GufPw)

414 The Worlds Wargest Vibwator is at my house.

Posted by: Babawa WaWa at February 20, 2014 11:59 AM (/o+xv)

415 406 Oh, and I take points off for not mentioning Prescott Bush. Posted by: Shoot Me at February 20, 2014 03:57 PM (qiXMt) Hell, he could've mentioned Vannevar Bush, but he was FDR's boy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 11:59 AM (olDqf)

416 Was Rick mainlining Tardasil ?

Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 11:59 AM (U+u4A)

417 The World's Biggest Piece of Shit is in Washington, DC Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 03:58 PM (GufPw) For many years, this was in great contention, but the dubious honor seems to have coalesced in one spot for the past 5 years or so.

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 11:59 AM (/29Nl)

418 Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 03:58 PM (32Ze2) You mean they have them in a museum now? What next? Are they going to be declared "endangered" so we can't hunt them anymore!?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 20, 2014 11:59 AM (PYAXX)

419 "we flee like rats from a sinking ship when something bad happens or the next guy comes along. "Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 20, 2014 03:24 PM (n/ogz) A good observation. And, the democrats and media recognized this reaction long ago and developed a kick up the dust strategy to chase off any viable candidates. And, we help them do it. It's one thing to vet our candidates; its another to aid and abet our political enemies in destroying the reputations of our leading candidates. If we don't pick them, they might be useful to fill other positions. Yes, a house-cleaning is needed, but can that be handled in a manner that does not hand ammunition to the left? Normally, you don't see the democrats hang, draw and quarter the leading possibilities. (yes, Hillary was an exception, and we all know why) Liberals tend to hash it out in private as much as possible, before launching massive public attacks on their own. When one of theirs are attacked they circle the wagons. It might be why they find it easier to recruit candidates, when they have a reputation for protecting their people.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 20, 2014 12:00 PM (0KmDt)

420 I know, I know.  He won his second time!

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 12:00 PM (BZAd3)

421 I think Perry going to Iowa is a great idea. This will give him the chance to show people he is capable of speaking English. However, unless he jumps over the podium and bitch slaps the first report who gives him any shit, I would leave him on the side of the road with the rest of the right's pussy farm. Get someone who can out-Christie and out-Newt the press or else we'll be bitching for another 8 years about Hillary.

Posted by: jwest at February 20, 2014 12:00 PM (u2a4R)

422 Why vote for Perry? If for no other reason than this person: http://tinyurl.com/kl9b3sg will drive libs fucking nuts.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 12:00 PM (da5Wo)

423 Well then they should be kept in jail then. Otherwise they should be free to vote as a private citizen. Posted by: NWConservative Well, you won't be voting in the camps, comrade, that I can assure you!

Posted by: Billy "Neighbor" Ayres at February 20, 2014 12:00 PM (o3MSL)

424 413 The World's Biggest Piece of Shit is in Washington, DC Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 03:58 PM (GufPw) The World's Biggest Piece of Shit - IS - Washington, DC. FIFY.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 12:00 PM (olDqf)

425 Oh I dunno JJSefton. I think the establishment wanted Romney to win. they wanted him in 2008 (mccain was NOT the establishment choice). They were just absolutely wrong on whether he could win and on how to get him to win.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 20, 2014 12:00 PM (m5+rk)

426

One of the BIG problems is the primary schedule. All the big blue states are stacked up first.

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Not the biggest blue state, unless they've adjusted the primary schedule this year.  California's always one of the last states to vote in the primaries.

 

Posted by: junior at February 20, 2014 12:00 PM (UWFpX)

427 I agree that what gets you jailed and what is treated as a felony needs to be reexamined, and that would change the entire debate but I do think that some things you do render you someone who cannot be trusted with the full responsibilities and freedoms of a society.
Jail isn't the end-all be-all form of punishment or solution to crime, and acting like it is partly is to blame for how our justice system and society are today.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 12:00 PM (zfY+H)

428 Felons voting used to be reserved to the states. Not a federal issue. Ha-ha! I am so old I remember laws and the US Constitution being relevant.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 12:00 PM (UYe47)

429 I also think they know on a subconscious level that they really didn't earn the level of fame that they have attained--that a large portion of it was--luck.

The guilt of that makes them uber liberals.


Most of them have only a high school education.  They got into acting at a young age and became famous at a young age.  They are full of teenager ideas, and are not tempered by any contact with the real world.  They are surrounded by fake people who are hedonistic idiots.  Everything they do is discussed, photographed and criticized by people who don't care at all about them as a person, only as an image. 

In a way I feel sorry for them.  Nobody really handles all that very well.  They're abused, drugged up, used up, and discarded as soon as their Q value falls. 

I wouldn't want to be around a single one of them.  They're black holes of suck.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 20, 2014 12:01 PM (gtjN1)

430 A good observation. And, the democrats and media recognized this reaction long ago and developed a kick up the dust strategy to chase off any viable candidates. And, we help them do it. This. The reason why I'm not bailing on the idea of Rand Paul yet. Or anyone else except for the bevy of shitheads (not Perry) who had no business running the last time around.

Posted by: grognard at February 20, 2014 12:01 PM (/29Nl)

431 Someone (Instapundit, I think) had an interesting note on this topic yesterday. Being a felon used to be a big deal. Felons were your big bads of society. But nowadays, felonies include a lot of things that would have been misdemeanors in the past.

Given that, there's definitely an argument to be made about letting ex-felons have the right to vote. I haven't examined the issue enough to decide whether I agree with it or not. But there's definitely an argument there.

Posted by: junior at February 20, 2014 03:55 PM (UWFpX)


There are so many laws nowadays too. I have read that the average person breaks, unknowingly, THREE federal crimes EVERY DAY. Everyone is a felon in a fascist society, except the government has not singled you out yet. Step out of line and you have 500 violations they could throw down on you.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 12:01 PM (buZ/8)

432 The lefties say the reason Texas is doing so well is oil. By that standard Venezuela should be buried in toilet paper.
We're halfway there, comrade.

Posted by: zombie hugo chavez at February 20, 2014 12:01 PM (14um2)

433 Here. Lemme squirt some vinegar on the thread. There we go. For some odd reason, this springs to mind: http://bit.ly/1mwFS6r

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 12:01 PM (VtjlW)

434 McCain *is* a Democrat mole, on the other hand.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 20, 2014 12:01 PM (m5+rk)

435 World's largest thermometer, Baker, CA 134 ft. tall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 20, 2014 12:02 PM (aDwsi)

436 Barbara Baby ! Practice the Wine Bottle Principal with a sista', and pass that bad bitch around !!!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 20, 2014 12:02 PM (5SH8W)

437 And he blew it when he decided to run and debate without enough preparation.
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Many years ago I subpoenaed a cop to testify at a trial. He was very nervous and doubted his ability to remember details even though we went over it a number of times. So finally I called him to the stand and he held up his right hand to be sworn in.  God, the jury and everybody could see he had written notes on his hand so he wouldn't forget.  Perry should have tried that.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 12:02 PM (XUKZU)

438

...wasn't that while he was jogging? swoon......

 

 

...and he wears glasses when he reads!...double swoon!!!

Posted by: concrete girl at February 20, 2014 12:02 PM (LhAqq)

439 432 The lefties say the reason Texas is doing so well is oil. By that standard Venezuela should be buried in toilet paper.
We're halfway there, comrade.Posted by: zombie hugo chavez at February 20, 2014 04:01 PM (14um2)

They used all their toilet paper for oil filters.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 20, 2014 12:02 PM (kVfSG)

440 In a way I feel sorry for them. Nobody really handles all that very well. They're abused, drugged up, used up, and discarded as soon as their Q value falls. I wouldn't want to be around a single one of them. They're black holes of suck. Posted by: bonhomme at February 20, 2014 04:01 PM (gtjN1) *********** I feel the same way.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 12:02 PM (RJMhd)

441 Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 20, 2014 04:00 PM (BZAd3) ___________________ Have you ever been in the same room as TexasJew?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 12:02 PM (32Ze2)

442 >>> Didya ever think maybe he just wants some corn?<<<

Good thinking.  Put your order in now before Christie gets there.

Posted by: Fritz at February 20, 2014 12:03 PM (PnMCP)

443 425 Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 20, 2014 04:00 PM (m5+rk) If the Establishment wanted to win, they'd've been running Ronald Reagan-esque candidates and having landslides for the past 20 years. But, they don't. And won't. QED.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 20, 2014 12:03 PM (olDqf)

444 Romney/Bush 2016!!!

Posted by: N.H. Primary Voters at February 20, 2014 12:03 PM (Aif/5)

445 Recovered (from back surgery); Rested; and Ready. Perry 2016? F*ck yeah, I'm in. He was my first choice in 2012 until he did himself in. If he gets Rand Paul as his VP & double the f*ck in. Of course, people on the right -- who couldn't be satisfied with an honest to goodness decent and generous man as candidate -- even in a face off against the SCOAMF -- and who consequently aided and abbetted the MSM to help get the SCOAMF re-elected by turning the right into a clown show, won't be satisified with Perry either -- maybe because of his past mess ups or maybe because of immigration or maybe because they are incapable of being satisfied -- and will start moaning about the possibility now (and, consequently, will again be doing the MSM's work for them).

Posted by: Dancing Queen at February 20, 2014 12:03 PM (kUdlA)

446 Perry is a lifetime politician, this wasn't his first time under the bright lights.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 20, 2014 12:04 PM (ZshNr)

447 What more do you want? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 20, 2014 03:39 PM (da5Wo) Hotassery. Obviously.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 20, 2014 12:04 PM (VtjlW)

448 The lefties say the reason Texas is doing so well is oil. ---------------- Funny, they never mention that when touting Norway as a model of socialism. Oil exports are 21% of GDP.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 20, 2014 12:04 PM (aDwsi)

449 Many if not most of the actors who have more than a high school education got so through being a big name. I mean, unless she murders someone or burns the dorm down, you're not going to flunk out Natalie Portman when she attends your school.
She gets passing grades, even A's no matter what her work is like, you get me? We need that publicity and her sweet, sweet endowment money. And if you mention extortion again, I'll have your legs broken.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 12:04 PM (zfY+H)

450 434 McCain *is* a Democrat mole, on the other hand.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 20, 2014 04:01 PM (m5+rk)


Agreed. He relishes in fighting conservatives whenever he gets the chance.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 12:05 PM (buZ/8)

451 God, the jury and everybody could see he had written notes on his hand so he wouldn't forget. Perry should have tried that. The letters... DOE DOE DOI would have sufficed.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 20, 2014 12:05 PM (CnA98)

452 Ronald Reagan was ALMOST born in IA.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 12:06 PM (32Ze2)

453 446 Perry is a lifetime politician, this wasn't his first time under the bright lights.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 20, 2014 04:04 PM (ZshNr)


You'd think that he would have put together a better campaign.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 20, 2014 12:06 PM (buZ/8)

454 You mean they have them in a museum now?

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You know the end of Raiders of the Lost Arc where they put the crate into a huge government warehouse of cool stuff?  Yeah, well it's been found.

http://tinyurl.com/lqe2gaj

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 12:07 PM (XUKZU)

455 Waterloo IA is home to The National Wrestling Hall of Fame.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 12:07 PM (32Ze2)

456 You know ... I MIGHT wear my glasses in the shower. Just throwin' that out there.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 20, 2014 12:08 PM (5SH8W)

457 Fight fiercely Harvard. Fight fight fight Demonstrate to them, our skill Albeit they possess the might Nevertheless we possess the will!

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 20, 2014 12:08 PM (m5+rk)

458

Reagan used to be a Democrat...and ended up being a great president.

 

And, unlike Reagan, I don't think that Perry would fall into the trap of granting Amnesty.

 

Someone upthread, said that "We will never see another Republican President".

 

That's what people said in the late 70's, after Nixon poisoned things for a while.

What we got...was an R-president who used to be a Dem.

 

Which is why I think that Perry could give us a win.

 

The things that conservatives here object to about him...are not things that the Dems could beat him up with.

Not the policy things.

 

Perry also has the good looks and charisma that it takes these days to win the presidency.

 

I know that sounds shallow...but look at who has won in that last Presidential Elections.

 

Clinton was more charismatic than Bush the elder...and he won.

Clinton was more charismatic than Dole...and he won again.

 

GW Bush was more charismatic than Gore...and he won.

Bush was more charismatic than Kerry...and he won again.

 

Barky was more charismatic than McCain...and he won.

Barky was more charismatic than Romney...and he won again.

 

So don't tell me that 'charisma' doesn't count.

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 12:10 PM (DEUoo)

459 Wheatie: GWB lost the popular vote

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 20, 2014 12:12 PM (m5+rk)

460 "You'd think that he would have put together a better campaign." You would have thought Fred Thomson would have put together something resembling a campaign. Hell, he already was a president and an admiral/CIA chief/airport manager to millions of LIV's. To the 96% of Americans who are totally uninformed, Fred's resume was unbeatable. All he needed to do was hire a few writers and stick to the script. Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at February 20, 2014 12:12 PM (u2a4R)

461 What has changed from 1980 to today is almost too vast to even express in human language. The entire machine and all of the culture is totally different. The machine is in place: no Republican presidents. I think more people will get this after November when the big GOP sweep of congress doesn't take place as expected. Remember in 2012 when Republicans might even take the Senate?
Yeah. Oh, but it was the storm that hit NYC, right? Yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2014 12:12 PM (zfY+H)

462 My mama died and went to Iowa.

Posted by: Babe the Pig at February 20, 2014 12:13 PM (dfYL9)

463 Remember on the racist rock. It wasn't on land that perry owned. It was on land owned by a charitable youth organization that leased hunting rights of it to the Perry's. And the Perry's would either paint over the rock or turn it over. And it was heavily faded as well. Ever notice how there were never any pictures of the racist rock in the stories? Because that would have killed the little fantasy cooked up by liberals and the suckers on the right.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 20, 2014 12:13 PM (DLQwA)

464 Field of Dreams? IA.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 20, 2014 12:14 PM (32Ze2)

465 I see Seymour Hoffman wanted his son to be raised in New York, Chicago or San Francisco. Because NYc worked out for *him*. At any rate..., it's a real trifecta.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 20, 2014 12:14 PM (aDwsi)

466 I think the more painful something is, the more you want to distance yourself from it Which is why I give your movies a wide berth, BenJammin'

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at February 20, 2014 12:14 PM (HsTG8)

467 454 You mean they have them in a museum now? - You know the end of Raiders of the Lost Arc where they put the crate into a huge government warehouse of cool stuff? Yeah, well it's been found. http://tinyurl.com/lqe2gaj Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 04:07 PM (XUKZU) ******** Amazing. Thanks for the link. They have Hitler's watercolors!?

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 12:15 PM (RJMhd)

468

445...Perry 2016? F*ck yeah, I'm in.
He was my first choice in 2012 until he did himself in. If he gets Rand Paul as his VP & double the f*ck in.

 

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This.

 

I don't think that Rand Paul has a chance in hell of winning as President.

But as VP? ....Oh yeah.

 

I just want a win.

And I think that Perry is the guy who could do it.

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 12:15 PM (DEUoo)

469 It's time to play WHO WANTS TO INHERIT A 17 TRILLION DEBT AND THE WORST FOREIGN POLICY AND LABOR FORCE EVER!!! *cue game show music and applause*

Posted by: Wink Martindale [/i] [/b] at February 20, 2014 12:16 PM (5ikDv)

470

459 Wheatie: GWB lost the popular vote

 

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You mean in 2000?

 

Well maybe he did...and maybe he didn't.

We'll never know for sure, will we.

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 12:17 PM (DEUoo)

471 459 Wheatie: GWB lost the popular vote Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 20, 2014 04:12 PM (m5+rk) ************ Weird phenomena of calling Florida before even Florida stopped voting and Ohio early-- the popular vote gets suppressed in every other timezone--IOW a significant portion of America.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 12:18 PM (RJMhd)

472 Because that would have killed the little fantasy cooked up by liberals and the suckers on the right. ------- When Jon Stewart says a criticism of a republican is bullshit......

Posted by: Adam at February 20, 2014 12:19 PM (Aif/5)

473 Well...let's see...Abbott doesn't need Perry to campaign for him but I can't say Perry wouldn't enjoy the hell out of humiliating Wendy here and there later this year.  I am blessed to live in Texas, where I expect her next stunt will be to take up barrel racing.  Or making tortillas by hand.   Or bass fishing.  Or maybe claiming to be a Marfa light. 
So, yeah, Rick, go visit the children of the corn.  Too soon to tell.

Posted by: susiefarmer at February 20, 2014 12:19 PM (ydb8s)

474 470 459 Wheatie: GWB lost the popular vote --------- You mean in 2000? Well maybe he did...and maybe he didn't. We'll never know for sure, will we. Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 04:17 PM (DEUoo) ************** Correct. The other problem--and I saw where someone was complaining that the Romney campaign lied when they said they still had a chance after losing Florida-- is the down ticket candidates. You have a duty to try everything to pull the lower down ticket candidates over the line. I can't believe someone here was really PO'd at Romney for trying to do that.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 12:20 PM (RJMhd)

475 I don't care if he's not a great debater. Debating skills are overrated...and not an indicator of good leadership skills. Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 03:55 PM (DEUoo) --- I agree as pertaining to their management skills and knowledge/wisdom and so forth. I've observed some good "snow job" debaters - obama comes to mind- who are incompetent leaders. Unfortunately, presidents have to have the gift of public speech; including repartee. If they can't fire back a quick rebuttal during the constant public debate; they are cooked. Bush was the first president to encounter the new internet microscope on language. Think about past great leaders who would have been may have been disqualified over the American insistence on physical appearance and the gift of the quick one-liner rebuttal .

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 20, 2014 12:22 PM (0KmDt)

476

Tasker...

 

GWBush didn't contest the other states where he was 'close' and where there were voting irregularities.

 

New Mexico, for one.

There were others...but I'm having trouble remembering which ones they were.

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 12:23 PM (DEUoo)

477 I could support Perry with the right second banana. . Walker, Jindal, Perry, Pence .. those are my top four, I'd be happy to come out of the primary with any combination in any order. . I would also be fine with Cruz, Lee, or Rand Paul as second banana, i.e. Perry / Paul, or Walker / Cruz, but will not support a non-executive for the big chair. . Santorum and Huckabee can go experiment with one another and lube - neither is qualified to keep track of a dog pound, and should be encouraged to keep their asses in the private sector. . Mew

Posted by: acat at February 20, 2014 12:23 PM (4UkCP)

478 Perry is on Cavuto...right now.

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 12:25 PM (DEUoo)

479 Scoggdog do you read in the shower?

Posted by: concrete girl at February 20, 2014 12:28 PM (LhAqq)

480 125 HUCKABEE! Posted by: TexasJew at February 20, 2014 03:16 PM (U+u4A) -------------- Hell no! Sheol no, if you prefer. Mew

Posted by: acat at February 20, 2014 12:30 PM (4UkCP)

481 I burned my foot pouring boiling water down an AK barrel after shooting corrosive com block ammo. Actually I was holding the gun and was showing a kid how to do and he dropped the pot! Big ole nasty 2nd degree burns. If all esle fails and infection sets in I will HAVE IT CUT OFF and buy a stick for the leg, an eye patch and a parrot. I know , what has this to do with this thread? I just got off the phone with governor Perry. He is going to contact the Surgeon General of the great state of Texas to legally me all his leftover pain killer scripts since I did not opt for Zerocare. I expect he may do better in any upcoming debates due to this. Plus the ladies will vote for him just based on his haircut!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 20, 2014 12:40 PM (cCxiu)

482 @451 I thought it was: DOE DOE DOC Might want to add NPS after the shutdown lockdown.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 12:46 PM (UYe47)

483 THERE IS ONLY ONE

Posted by: CAC at February 20, 2014 12:48 PM (bm21+)

484 The GOP's Joe Biden

Absolute trainwreck of a candidate, he has about the same approval ratings in bright red Texas as Obama does nationally.  Not a good sign if that's where a Governor stands when most voters share the same ideology.  Imagine what purple states are going to think of him.

I'm amazed so many TruCons back him, he has at best a mixed record.  He was a HillaryCare supporting Democrat up until the 90's and was Al Gore's former campaign chairman in Texas.  I'm sorry, but you can't tell me the Democrat Party was still finding itself ideologically during that time.  It seems he saw the winds blowing in Texas and jumped parties.  He's an opportunist.

Also, the Hispandering really is annoying, with ridiculous excuses like he was against a border fence because of cattle issues.  Really? 

The primary in 2012 was handed to him on a silver platter. and he blew it.  I don't buy into the whole medication issue, I just think he's your garden variety retard. 



Posted by: McAdams at February 20, 2014 01:01 PM (0XUBg)

485 #4 Wrong. It's Homeland Security, Commerce and Energy. He needs to use his record as Gov. of Texas and expertise in these areas to explain why. Conservatives will understand he is truly committed to a smaller federal government, not some culture just some red meat tossing culture warrior for campaign purposes. He will also win independents.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 20, 2014 01:02 PM (ghOWn)

486 I'm back-and-forth between Walker, Paul, and Cruz. Right now I'm leaning towards Paul because I think he has shown the best ability to communicate conservative ideas to the low-info, high-turnout swing voters. I don't think the traditional electability argument holds for 2016. Assuming Hillary is the nominee, I just don't think a moderate-ish candidates like Christie or Bush can beat Clinton. To win, we need a candidate that is a sharp contrast to Hillary.

Posted by: MidGeorgiaConservative at February 20, 2014 01:03 PM (qBGUl)

487 Oh, and I also like Perry; supported in 2012 before he dropped out. Unfortunately for him, you only get one chance to make a first impression and "oops" would hang over his campaign.

Posted by: MidGeorgiaConservative at February 20, 2014 01:06 PM (qBGUl)

488 better Perry than another Bush or the Jersey RINO.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 20, 2014 01:11 PM (q+fqH)

489 Perry in 2016? Oh. Hell. No. That's a slow hanging one over the plate for Hillary.
Erowmero in ETEX.

Posted by: Erowmero at February 20, 2014 01:21 PM (OONaw)

490 I like Perry as a governor, but no.

Posted by: Son of Liberty at February 20, 2014 01:24 PM (BPKIW)

491 Perry > Christie, Rubio, or Jeb And I'm willing to see if he can put this one together better than last time. Some of his campaign was actually great, but he screwed up badly on stage. Maybe he can fix that. I don't really dig the 'next in line' aspect of the GOP, so I'm more excited about Scott Walker. I am a huge fan of Cruz, but he lacks executive experience and Perry really does have more executive experience than any other contender.

Posted by: Dustin at February 20, 2014 01:33 PM (0a/7L)

492 254 Romney beat Perry in Texas. Of course Perry had dropped out or was about to at the time. Posted by: Lincolntf at February 20, 2014 03:34 PM (ZshNr) === Perry wasn't even on the ballot in Texas. Romney had already clinched the nomination anyway. I was going to vote for Perry just to show some support for him, but he wasn't on the ballot.

Posted by: stace at February 20, 2014 01:37 PM (9PXzx)

493 Just saw Perry with Wolf.

Perry wiped the floor with Blitzer.

Posted by: basil at February 20, 2014 01:44 PM (xhCXk)

494 Paul's managed to recruit a large number of middle-income Republicans in Kentucky and he's made a bridge with the old-line Republicans. It's the upper-income society Republicans that are wary of him. They don't like candidates who make unexpected moves. Which is his strong point.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 20, 2014 01:46 PM (0KmDt)

495 I know this is a dead thread but I remember seeing clips in 2011 when Rick was head of RGA & crowds yelled Run, Rick, Run!

Posted by: Carol at February 20, 2014 01:56 PM (JFbSU)

496 I prefer Cruz at this point, but Perry's still great!
I just wish Perry had weighed in on more issues in the last few years. That's why I prefer Cruz -- he's been at the forefront, shaping the fight, weighing in on most everything relevant.
Didn't Reagan write a lot of op-eds in between '76 and '80? I think I read that once. I know Reagan got his voice heard a LOT.
But, Perry is a great governor of a great state, so I look forward to his campaign should he run.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at February 20, 2014 02:48 PM (KL49F)

497 PS, this coming from one of Perry's biggest "fan-girls" of 2011

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at February 20, 2014 02:49 PM (KL49F)

498

He was run out for a bunch of incredibly stupid reasons last time.

 

Seriously, racist rock? FFS!

Posted by: Lea at February 20, 2014 04:10 PM (/bd0t)

499 Perry > Christie, Rubio, or Jeb

FFS, I'd vote for a dead hamster over those three slimebuckets.

Walker > Cruz > Perry > a dead hamster.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 20, 2014 06:25 PM (30eLQ)

500 I would vote for Perry. He was my man before Romney. I will vote to oppose the Dimmycrat, anytime, anywhere. I like a man who can shoot a gun while jogging. I also like a man who has done Texas a pretty good job with their economy. So there's that big ole reason.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 21, 2014 05:48 AM (baL2B)

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