March 19, 2014
— DrewM The battle over climate change is a David vs. Goliath fight according to Marc Morano, Director of Communications at CFACT, Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow and editor of their website Climate Depot.
But who is who in this pitched battle? It's not who you think if you just listened to the media.
“One fossil fuel donation [by a natural gas company] to the major environmental group, the Sierra Club, exceeded all the donations to probably of all the top global warming skeptic organizations you can ever name, in one donation. That’s how well funded the environmental left is.”
In addition to that we talk about what it's like to do battle with people who continually move the goal posts while insisting that the "science is settled", how "climate change" became the explanation to everything and the ways some Republicans have helped advance Al Gore's pet cause.
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Posted by: Common Core Republican at March 19, 2014 02:31 PM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: fluffy, slightly thawed at March 19, 2014 02:32 PM (Ua6T/)
GOPe and GOPc have unleashed their answer for 2016 to stop all this madness:
Jeb Bush!!!
suck it you caveman conservatives, you DENIERS!!! We can fix the policies to stop this awful climate change!!!
I'd laugh if it wasn't so close to truth...
Posted by: prescient11 at March 19, 2014 02:32 PM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Hillary at March 19, 2014 02:33 PM (CTCNK)
And one more thing:
Unlike the hoax known as AGW, there actually is observational data that would have supported a geocentric theory of the solar system, until people figured out elliptical orbits...
In other words, there is data to support the sun circling the earth, which puts those crazies on an even higher footing than the total fucking loons who chant global warming...
Posted by: prescient11 at March 19, 2014 02:33 PM (tVTLU)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2014 02:34 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: real joe at March 19, 2014 02:34 PM (xXhgd)
Jeb Bush!!!
Preach it from every mountain top.
Posted by: Common Core Republican at March 19, 2014 02:34 PM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: BignJames at March 19, 2014 02:34 PM (j7iSn)
I have always said there are three groups involved with the AGW scam.
The largest group is the communist bastards in government who want to use it for an excuse to seize control of the electric industry and increase taxes through the roof. These are the Obamas of the world.
The next group is the anarchist/communists who just want to see the West crushed.
And the smallest group is the stupid Giaa worshipers who truly believe.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 19, 2014 02:35 PM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at March 19, 2014 02:35 PM (baiNQ)
Posted by: Elephant in the Room at March 19, 2014 02:35 PM (Ggh94)
You have just narrowed your selections to a handful of the GOP.
Posted by: Common Core Republican at March 19, 2014 02:35 PM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2014 06:34 PM (x3YFz)
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Here. Take my .45. It's easier.
Posted by: Soona at March 19, 2014 02:37 PM (sx5Tc)
Posted by: Very Native Americans Who Eat Blubber and Wash Occasionally at March 19, 2014 02:37 PM (1CroS)
Seems to have worked in Indiana.
Posted by: HR at March 19, 2014 02:38 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2014 02:38 PM (tysIe)
Very true. Your average DWTS viewer knows that it has been a nasty winter. They have no sympathy for Michael Mann while writing that check to the oil company.
Posted by: fluffy at March 19, 2014 02:39 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 19, 2014 02:40 PM (HG6wp)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2014 02:40 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 19, 2014 02:40 PM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at March 19, 2014 02:41 PM (sB09V)
Posted by: HR at March 19, 2014 06:38 PM (ZKzrr)
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Don't forget us. We love this shit.
Posted by: Iowa at March 19, 2014 02:41 PM (sx5Tc)
Check back with me in three weeks. If I'm not enjoying mud season by then, I'll join you.
Posted by: fluffy at March 19, 2014 02:41 PM (Ua6T/)
"We don't really need to monitor temps in the southern hemisphere anyhow."
"Why is that?"
"Well it's populated by mostly brown people excepting Australia and it's mostly water. So we really want to concentrate on 3 trees in the Urals to tell us how fast we are cooking our planet."
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 19, 2014 02:42 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: rockhead at March 19, 2014 02:42 PM (jtTKf)
Posted by: major major major major at March 19, 2014 02:42 PM (MUhs0)
Posted by: Qatari Emir at March 19, 2014 02:43 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 19, 2014 02:43 PM (KRTiE)
Like go all Hostel on them and then nurse them back to health and rinse/repeat.
I'm not someone you want mad at you.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2014 06:40 PM (x3YFz)
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So.....do you, by any chance, have a newsletter?
Posted by: Soona at March 19, 2014 02:43 PM (sx5Tc)
Meh. If we have to put sleds under the goal posts, we can do that too. That's what petty cash is for.
Posted by: Gaia Greenie With Extra Cabbage at March 19, 2014 02:44 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 02:44 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 19, 2014 02:45 PM (84gbM)
I guess doing the NCAA bracket picks and the Two Ferns video is like totally backfiring on him since Gallup had him at 39% and Rasmussen had him at 45% a week ago.
Oh wait....
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 19, 2014 02:45 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 02:46 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2014 02:46 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 19, 2014 02:46 PM (KRTiE)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 19, 2014 02:47 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 19, 2014 02:47 PM (KRTiE)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at March 19, 2014 02:48 PM (HG6wp)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2014 02:49 PM (x3YFz)
Don't look now but Obama is at 49% (Rasmussen) and 45% (Gallup)
I guess doing the NCAA bracket picks and the Two Ferns video is like totally backfiring on him since Gallup had him at 39% and Rasmussen had him at 45% a week ago.
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I don't trust polls anymore, whether they're high or low. We're being manipulated from all directions now. I don't like being manipulated. Just leave me the fuck alone.
Posted by: Soona at March 19, 2014 02:49 PM (sx5Tc)
Buckeye abroad?
It took very little study from me to conclude Kyoto was a scam & fraud & failure- and a money Xfer transfer scheme- from beginning to end. Bunch of crooks....
Posted by: backhoe at March 19, 2014 02:50 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2014 02:52 PM (x3YFz)
Mikey Mann keeps beating the same drum . . .
If the world keeps burning fossil fuels at the current rate, it will cross a threshold into environmental ruin by 2036. The "faux pause" could buy the planet a few extra years beyond that date to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and avoid the crossover -- but only a few.
From HuffPoo.
Get that? 2036 is the new goalpost. I'm quite sure we are standing past the original goal post placement on the timeline - from the 1990's.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 19, 2014 02:53 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: backhoe at March 19, 2014 06:50 PM (ULH4o)
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Kyoto has pretty much crashed and burned anyway, hasn't it?
Posted by: Soona at March 19, 2014 02:53 PM (sx5Tc)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 02:53 PM (/rlXg)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 19, 2014 02:54 PM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 19, 2014 02:55 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 02:55 PM (/rlXg)
Oh, and for all the LIB people. It's burning.
Posted by: Soona at March 19, 2014 02:57 PM (sx5Tc)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 19, 2014 02:57 PM (KRTiE)
Posted by: The Climate Man at March 19, 2014 02:57 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 19, 2014 02:58 PM (M3hAT)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 02:58 PM (/rlXg)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 19, 2014 02:59 PM (KRTiE)
soona?
Far as I can tell it's been dead in the water for many years. The problem is those people on "the other side" never quit drilling. There is always a new cause, new outrage, "We gotta do something about this!"
I'm tired of it all.
I'm old and I'm poor. Been fighting since AU2. Just fed up with it all...
Posted by: backhoe at March 19, 2014 02:59 PM (ULH4o)
Which rhymes with 'C'
Which stands for 'Carbon'
Posted by: The Climate Man at March 19, 2014 06:57 PM (Ua6T/)
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Oh, thank Gaia your here. Save us!
Posted by: Soona at March 19, 2014 03:00 PM (sx5Tc)
Posted by: Michael Mann at March 19, 2014 03:00 PM (NE/b7)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 19, 2014 03:00 PM (KRTiE)
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2014 06:46 PM (x3YFz)
They can't possibly be dumber.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 19, 2014 03:00 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2014 03:00 PM (cmRIP)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 19, 2014 03:00 PM (HsTG8)
Posted by: The Climate Man at March 19, 2014 03:01 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Captain Planet at March 19, 2014 03:02 PM (CTCNK)
The very definition of Communism. I have family who escaped the Baltics and revisited both before and after The Wall came down. The civilization, as they recorded, appeared crushed. And the Baltics were the Utopian vacation spot of the Soviet Union post Commie invasion.
Before The Wall? Nearly empty markets selling, essentially, air. Old, decrepit, broken cities that looked like black-n-white war footage. It was a step back in time. After The Wall? Bustling markets for a time but struggling commerce because the people had few to no assets. The civilization, for the most part, had been purged of industry and expertise as the natives had been sent off to Siberia (and other labor/death camps) while the Communists exported Russians and their "collective" mindset. The trade that was happening was because of West Germans visiting and priming the economic pump.
Be assured that if the Russians regress (under Putin's boot), they'll be reinviting hell.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 19, 2014 03:02 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 19, 2014 03:03 PM (CTCNK)
Nope. Chelsea Clinton is too dumb even for our LIVs.
It will be Malia Obama.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 19, 2014 03:03 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 03:03 PM (/rlXg)
Posted by: The Fractal Hat at March 19, 2014 03:04 PM (CTCNK)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 19, 2014 03:04 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2014 03:04 PM (5HA1y)
Posted by: A Polar Bear on a Melting Ice Cube at March 19, 2014 03:05 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 03:05 PM (/rlXg)
Posted by: Al Gore at March 19, 2014 03:06 PM (/rlXg)
Forget how to swim, Fuzzball?
Posted by: wise-ass narwhale at March 19, 2014 03:07 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 03:07 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Soona at March 19, 2014 03:07 PM (sx5Tc)
The strawberry rhubarb pie was good.
The strawberry cream pie was amazing.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 19, 2014 03:09 PM (yh0zB)
See? Climate change!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 03:09 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 19, 2014 03:09 PM (KRTiE)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 03:09 PM (/rlXg)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2014 03:09 PM (MbpWl)
Posted by: Algore at March 19, 2014 03:10 PM (8ZskC)
Seamus Muldoon ?
Then my thoughts dissolve to chaos. Yes, I have a simple, Puckish sense of humor....
Posted by: backhoe at March 19, 2014 03:10 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 03:12 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: [/i]KG at March 19, 2014 03:12 PM (IPz9m)
Yeah, didn't happen. In fact, I think we hit a modern, historic hurricane trough.
But, yeah, let's invent, print, and distribute a new currency known as carbon credits because it's all legitimate, pinky-swears.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 19, 2014 03:12 PM (1CroS)
Hmm. This sounds like a worthwhile plan to me. Did we lose funding?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 03:14 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 19, 2014 03:14 PM (/vO0r)
Posted by: toby928© at March 19, 2014 03:15 PM (QupBk)
My plan would involve decades of torture where I let them heal up and then do it all over again.
Like go all Hostel on them and then nurse them back to health and rinse/repeat.
I'm not someone you want mad at you.
Posted by: tangonine at March 19, 2014 06:40 PM (x3YFz)
I would stick them all in one location, nuke them from orbit, then piss on their ashes, then blast out a death metal version of ding dong the witch is dead, then giggle myself to sleep knowing the universe is suddenly a much happier place.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 19, 2014 03:15 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 03:15 PM (/rlXg)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 03:16 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 07:12 PM (1Y+hH)
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Is there nothing that warcock can't do?
Posted by: Soona at March 19, 2014 03:16 PM (sx5Tc)
Yeah!
Posted by: Enron at March 19, 2014 03:16 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2014 03:16 PM (5pINk)
Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 03:16 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Halliburton-Illuminati Complex at March 19, 2014 03:17 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 03:17 PM (/rlXg)
Its one of the dumbest lies that people repeat, because it has emotional appeal. See, they want you to believe they don't have to change! Except... not.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 03:18 PM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Estonian PM quietly packing his bags at March 19, 2014 03:18 PM (Aif/5)
Sad, so sad. My 13 year old said today that the feudal system would be better than the big, bloated centralized Fed government. "Less taxes, less stupid spending, more responsibility [to the governed]" and somesuch. I smiled.
Posted by: eureka! at March 19, 2014 03:19 PM (06U7A)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2014 03:19 PM (5pINk)
Posted by: Spokeman, Hall-Ill Complex at March 19, 2014 03:20 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: soothsayer at March 19, 2014 03:20 PM (KRTiE)
And the King doesn't have shit all over him.
Posted by: Dennis at March 19, 2014 03:20 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 03:21 PM (zOTsN)
Buckeye:
Did we take the same course!! LOL. Indeed I remember reading the same, and these were UN guys, whacko RWNJ birds I know...
Posted by: prescient11 at March 19, 2014 03:21 PM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 03:21 PM (/rlXg)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 19, 2014 03:21 PM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2014 07:18 PM (nzKvP)
I'm going to restrict myself to the hot ones....you can have the rest.
And don't forget J.J. Sefton's maxim!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 19, 2014 03:23 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: The power of Flattery at March 19, 2014 03:23 PM (6Z9cJ)
Posted by: [/i]KG at March 19, 2014 03:24 PM (IPz9m)
But where will all those astronautical engineers who are currently assigned to Social Justice research go to find work?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 03:24 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: zombie at March 19, 2014 03:24 PM (mizYg)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 19, 2014 03:25 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 03:25 PM (/rlXg)
Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2014 03:26 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 03:26 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 03:27 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 07:24 PM (8ZskC)
Better question, who gives a fuck?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 19, 2014 03:28 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Aviator at March 19, 2014 03:29 PM (3rrMW)
Pics, or it didn't happen.
Posted by: Piercello at March 19, 2014 07:09 PM (jJ97i)
http://tinyurl.com/nfgtld7
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 19, 2014 03:29 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2014 03:30 PM (sdi6R)
how "climate change" became the explanation to everything
ahhh....I wondered how they got those ships in to those little jars.
and the g-spot.
All climate change.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 19, 2014 03:30 PM (0Kobm)
http://wonkette.com/413811/this-is-literally-thomas-friedmans-house
Posted by: willow at March 19, 2014 03:31 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 03:31 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2014 03:31 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: willow at March 19, 2014 03:32 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 03:32 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 19, 2014 03:32 PM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 03:33 PM (/rlXg)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2014 03:33 PM (BErQR)
Except for the giant panels and turbines that don't create enough energy to pay for themselves, they're "free". Free as in "fossil fuels are needed to make them viable".
Is the word "free" in his dictionary?
Why doesn't he go break a bunch of the community's windows to spur the economy or something.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 19, 2014 03:33 PM (1CroS)
of course using the govt as their Tool.
Posted by: willow at March 19, 2014 03:34 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 03:34 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: willow at March 19, 2014 03:34 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Piercello at March 19, 2014 03:36 PM (jJ97i)
They are all the same.
no integrity of real commitment to their own causes,
just as Gore isn't.
SCAM
Posted by: willow at March 19, 2014 03:36 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 03:36 PM (zOTsN)
*sets plate and fork next to usb port*
Posted by: Piercello at March 19, 2014 07:36 PM (jJ97i)
My son-in-law informs me that the proper answer to the question "Would you like the strawberry rhubarb or the strawberry cream pie?" is "yes".
*slides two pieces of pie through USB slot*
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 19, 2014 03:37 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 03:38 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 19, 2014 03:38 PM (/rlXg)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2014 03:38 PM (M89+g)
Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2014 03:39 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Aviator at March 19, 2014 03:40 PM (3rrMW)
Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 03:40 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: FORTRAN's DATA statement[/i][/b][/s] at March 19, 2014 03:40 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: National Council of La Rodent at March 19, 2014 03:40 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Aviator at March 19, 2014 03:41 PM (3rrMW)
http://tinyurl.com/ojyp6tg
Acres and acres of prime farmland, wasted. That's in addition to the acres and acres of prime farmland diverted to the growing of corn for ethanol, which is another political hotcake and overall loser...and then I'm amused by the number of farmers sitting around drinking their coffee, cashing the checks from the .gov from their fallow acres and ethanol subsides, bitching about the welfare queens.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 19, 2014 03:45 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at March 19, 2014 03:53 PM (1Y+hH)
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Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 19, 2014 02:29 PM (oFCZn)