February 25, 2014

Rubio Rips Cuba, Venezuela, and Useful Idiot Senator Tom Harkin
— Ace

Background and more at Hot Air.

Hot Air also provides a written transcript-- read that if you can't watch the video, but favor the video. It's well delivered.

For those who loved Rubio, but then became deeply disappointed -- let him remind you why you used to like him.

Thanks to @aoshqDOOM (Monty).

Meanwhile, Michael C. Moynihan poses some hypothetical questions:

A pro-Chavez academic writing in The Nation argued that the massive street demonstrations across the country “have far more to do with returning economic and political elites to power than with their downfall.” The Guardian headlined a news story: “Venezuela's hardliner reappears as Nicolas Maduro expels US officials.” That hardliner wasn’t Maduro, whose government is arresting regime opponents and strangling the free press, but Leopoldo Lopez, the opposition leader currently languishing in jail....

ItÂ’s a thought experiment I often present to the Western Chavista... [What if] Prime Minister David Cameron, President Barack Obama, Chancellor Angela Merkel--pick your the imperialist lackey!--arrested an opposition leader who had organized peaceful street protests? Or if the CIA shut off the internet in politically restive cities like Berkeley and Brooklyn; blocked Twitter traffic it found politically suspect; and took over PBS, forcing it to broadcast only pro-administration agitprop, never allowing the opposition party to traduce the government across public airwaves?...

Perhaps reactions would be muted if motorcycle gangs loyal to President George W. Bush circled anti-Iraq War protests physically attacking--and occasionally murdering--demonstrators. How about if a judge ruled against President ObamaÂ’s domestic spying apparatus and, in return, the White House ordered that judge thrown in prison?

Moynihan has more, obviously.

The chilling thing that separates, in my mind, the leftist from the liberal is the former's "By any means necessary" ethic. They are willing to defend -- and perpetrate themselves -- true evil because, they assert, their mission is so intrinsically good that its accomplishment will redeem all sins (including the sin of murder).

It's a scary mentality. Anyone who has convinced himself that a little bit of murder in the service of preferred politics is excusable should proudly accept membership in the club which he has joined. And that club includes Stalin, Mao, Osama bin Ladin, and, yes, Hitler.

Posted by: Ace at 12:25 PM | Comments (384)
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1 let him remind you why you used to like him.

And love his garbage.

Posted by: Mætenloch at February 25, 2014 12:27 PM (XkotV)

2 I still like Rubio. He's right up there with Walker and Cruz for me...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at February 25, 2014 12:27 PM (9+ccr)

3 >>>>For those who loved Rubio, but then became deeply disappointed -- let him remind you why you used to like him. Because he had the best garbage?

Posted by: L, elle at February 25, 2014 12:27 PM (0xqKe)

4 I smell some make-up sex in the offering...

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 12:27 PM (Ggxte)

5 mmmm, New Thread Smell...

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 12:27 PM (uCYHf)

6 Still going to be hard to trust Rubio again, though...after he got all cozy with Shumer.

Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2014 12:28 PM (DEUoo)

7 Hahaahaha. Hi Maetenloch!

Posted by: L, elle at February 25, 2014 12:28 PM (0xqKe)

8 Who? I like my Cubans like I like my bacon- "Canadian"... Cruz '16

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2014 12:28 PM (TE35l)

9 so I got this email today:

"I just got some bad news from the Speaker, we havenÂ’t seen the support we need and are now behind.

At this rate weÂ’ll miss our goal. Please, donÂ’t let this happen, give $45, $75, or $100 immediately to put us back on course. "

Should I tell them why they heard from me yet..?

Posted by: Mallfly at February 25, 2014 12:30 PM (bJm7W)

10 7 Hahaahaha.

Hi Maetenloch!

Posted by: L, elle at February 25, 2014 04:28 PM (0xqKe)

And THAT is why I pay extra for the ultra high speed internet. Because sometimes milliseconds matter. :-)

Posted by: Mætenloch at February 25, 2014 12:30 PM (XkotV)

11 But what will Rubio say on Spanish TV later? I don't trust him.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 25, 2014 12:30 PM (eMP2S)

12 mmmm, New Thread Smell... This one smells like Rotten Apples and Ewok in Heat

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 12:30 PM (Ggxte)

13 Rubio burned his book, as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 12:32 PM (8ZskC)

14 Alas, Rubio is still dead to me.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 12:32 PM (QupBk)

15 I still like Rubio and he has heard from me re: immigration and his promises. I am a constituent. I still think he is a good man and a great Senator. Bite moi.

As I have said, many times, I am all in for anyone vs Dems.

I honestly think once people get to DC there is something in the water...along with special interests and threats.

Heard Hannity and Beck talking today  (briefly, in car) that their favorites, right now, are Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.

I also like Walker, Jindal, or anyone but a stinky Dem (ok, no McCain, not that I would have to include him. He needs to retire, like ten years ago).

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Morons at February 25, 2014 12:32 PM (baL2B)

16 Fidel let me hold his gun.....

Posted by: Tom Harkin at February 25, 2014 12:32 PM (Aif/5)

17 There goes Ace, badmouthing Hitler.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 12:33 PM (Ggxte)

18 Rubio is an improvement over McCain because McCain only turns conservative every six years.  Rubio is on a two-year schedule.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 12:33 PM (8ZskC)

19 "And that club includes Stalin, Mao, Osama bin Ladin, and, yes, Hitler."

And, arguably, Holder, Obama, and Hillary.

Posted by: flounder at February 25, 2014 12:33 PM (Kkt/i)

20 4 I smell some make-up sex in the offering... Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 04:27 PM (Ggxte) And then a nap with one eye opened.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 25, 2014 12:33 PM (bCEmE)

21 9 Mallfly, Go for it, or don't. I've had 2 Congresscritters call me personally this year. Told the last one exactly why I am done donating.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2014 12:33 PM (TE35l)

22 Rubio is still owned by the Amnesty crowd.  I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, and there's no doubt he can say the right things when he needs to, but he's their boy.  Not ours. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 12:33 PM (TOk1P)

23 Meh. Still do not like.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 25, 2014 12:34 PM (/o+xv)

24 I don't have an immigration hard-on.  Is there another reason the horde turned on Rubio?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 12:34 PM (A0sHn)

25 Leftists don't think murder is that big a deal. Everything is who/whom to them. Everything.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 25, 2014 12:34 PM (ZPrif)

26 wow. A new world record.

Posted by: Godwin at February 25, 2014 12:34 PM (5ikDv)

27 It's gonna take a lot more for me to get back on his bandwagon.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 12:35 PM (gBnkX)

28

They love them some communists. 

 

And many of them wish they had the same power the Chinese Communist leaders have.  The same chinese leaders who are sending their children to Vancouver Canada, California, and any where else they can bring their bags of money and secret banks accounts to. 

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2014 12:35 PM (D+lxs)

29 Hitler still gets the bad press.  He's a relative piker   compared to the commies.  And yet, he's always put at the top of the bill. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 12:36 PM (TOk1P)

30 24 fruminous bandersnatch, His belching smells like Juan McCain's meat stick?

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2014 12:36 PM (TE35l)

31

The Presidency is not the place to get on-the-job-training in executive experience.

 

So I'm hoping that our next President is an ex-governor.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2014 12:37 PM (DEUoo)

32 I don't think leftists really believe they are after a good that absolves even mass murder. I believe they are all stricken with "commissar syndrome." When the revolution comes, they all believe they will be standing (holding a pistol) rather than kneeling (with a pistol held to the back of the head) alongside the ditch. Nothing more.

Posted by: M. Murcek at February 25, 2014 12:37 PM (GJUgF)

33 You take that back about Sen. Harkin!


He's never been even remotely useful....

Posted by: Outraged! at February 25, 2014 12:37 PM (tv7DV)

34 I like my Cubans like I like my bacon- "Canadian"... Cruz '16 **Golf Clap**

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 12:37 PM (p9JxP)

35 I just want someone to ask Harkin and Biden if being wrong about every foreign policy question in the last 30 years has impacted them in any way. The 5 second pregnant pause and associated doofus look would be worth it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 12:37 PM (yz6yg)

36

I read teh t-script earlier.  It was good.

 

 

But since Rubio isn't perfect on every issue I must hate him.  And his garbage.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Winter of Discontent will End! The Flowers of Fury will be here for Spring Planting at February 25, 2014 12:38 PM (hLRSq)

37 See that wall over there? I built that with my own two hands, but do they call me "Jack the Mason"? No! See that house over there? I built that house with my own two hands, but do they call me "Jack the Carpenter"? No! See that meat hanging on the hook? I slaughtered that cow with my own two hands, but do they call me "Jack the Butcher"? No! But you fuck just one goat....

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 25, 2014 12:38 PM (bb5+k)

38 Oh and thanks for "willowing" me on the last thread y'all.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 12:38 PM (yz6yg)

39 If anyone ever had any doubt as to the true nature of the Democrat party since George McGovern was their candidate in 1972, then they're living in denial. Look at the IRS, FCC, destruction of our national defense and foreign policy, total disregard for the rule of law. Then look at the media and academia (Sandra Korn, anyone?). They will stop at nothing. As they are exposed, as their policies fail and crumble around and on top of us, they will lash out. I am predicting something violent and repressive will happen by 2016 if not post 2014.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:38 PM (olDqf)

40 34 rickb223, It takes a village, and I'm obviously the idiot.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2014 12:38 PM (TE35l)

41 Does this mean that the establishment will turn on Rubio? I mean, he took it to a Dem pretty hard there. And in the upper chamber. Rubio might as well equal Cruz in their books, right?

Posted by: David at February 25, 2014 12:39 PM (UtRhK)

42 How unexpected.

Posted by: The Spanish Inquisition at February 25, 2014 12:39 PM (QupBk)

43 It takes a village, and I'm obviously the idiot. I'm right there with you.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 12:39 PM (p9JxP)

44 I find it very instructive to see who is defending Chavismo and Maduro right now.

Of course the MSM is doing their little three monkey act, but there are people vocally defending Maduro, including that idiot Kennedy.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 25, 2014 12:39 PM (4QSOR)

45 But since Rubio isn't perfect on every issue I must hate him. And his garbage. Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Winter of Discontent will End! The Flowers of Fury will be here for Spring Planting at February 25, 2014 04:38 PM (hLRSq) The garbage too?? Let's not get all crazy here.

Posted by: Wicket [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 12:39 PM (yz6yg)

46 Just when I thought I was out... you pull me back in.

Posted by: Ewok staring at Marco's trash at February 25, 2014 12:39 PM (UIxS+)

47 Rubio? Not. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 25, 2014 12:39 PM (CnA98)

48 It seems to me that any organized attempt to change the form of government in a nation, through illegal means, would constitute a Coup d'etat.

Sometimes I wish the Obama administration would try to take away our guns.  It would fully justify the complete removal of his government by force.

Posted by: gastorgrab at February 25, 2014 12:39 PM (FX38i)

49 No respect I tells ya...no respect!

Posted by: Rodney Pol Pot at February 25, 2014 12:40 PM (S0eIZ)

50 Murder is such a loaded word.

Posted by: Peter Singer at February 25, 2014 12:40 PM (8ZskC)

51 And bravo Marco Rubio for this speech. Had he called out the Democrats by name and ideology as traitors, liars and cheats then all would have been forgiven vis a vis Amnesty. Still, this was a damn good showing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:40 PM (olDqf)

52 We need some good news soon. I'm dying of Disco Ewok withdrawals.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 12:40 PM (QupBk)

53

24 -

 

His  support was always shallow.  It was based on his smooth talk, and his good looks, primarily.  Without a sense that he's "one of us," he really  has nothing. 

 

And he's not.  He got bought by a large constituency that wants to import illegals  to line their own pockets.   It's not about whether the  illegals are good  people  or not.  You can like them all you want, but any politician... and REPUBLICAN  politician that puts their interests above the rest of us, is a rotten dirty scoundrel. 

 

What good is it supporting a rotten dirty scoundrel when he's the other guys'  rotten dirty scoundrel? 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 12:40 PM (TOk1P)

54 When the revolution comes, they all believe they will be standing (holding a pistol) rather than kneeling (with a pistol held to the back of the head) alongside the ditch. Nothing more. Posted by: M. Murcek at February 25, 2014 04:37 PM (GJUgF) History proves that's always a bad bet. Which they'd know if they ever bothered to read any history.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 12:41 PM (yz6yg)

55 You take that back about Uncle Joe!

Posted by: Zombie Pete Seeger at February 25, 2014 12:41 PM (Aif/5)

56 Is it just me, or is it maybe possible that the burning times are not as imminent as presumed?

Posted by: blaster at February 25, 2014 12:41 PM (4+AaH)

57 Does the Village need a Sandwich Maker? I have refs.

Posted by: Arthur Dent at February 25, 2014 12:41 PM (Ggxte)

58

53 -

 

And when I say "large," I don't mean a large voting bloc.  I mean large  money. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 12:42 PM (TOk1P)

59 The spirit of Walter Duranty lives.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 12:42 PM (8ZskC)

60 He's a relative piker compared to the commies. And yet, he's always put at the top of the bill.

Lots of reasons for that, including the fact that so many people are in thrall to Cultural Marxism.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 25, 2014 12:42 PM (4QSOR)

61 The garbage too??

Let's not get all crazy here.

Posted by: Wicket at February 25, 2014 04:39 PM (yz6yg)

 

 

The sins of the RINO are passed own unto the garbage of the Senator.

 

It's right there in Stuff God Really Said and Meant, Vol. III.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Winter of Discontent will End! The Flowers of Fury will be here for Spring Planting at February 25, 2014 12:42 PM (hLRSq)

62 Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 04:41 PM (yz6yg) Remember that time Roseanne Barr told Newt Gingrich to read a history book? Gingrich, who has Ph.D. in history? Just remember, they're the serious ones.

Posted by: David at February 25, 2014 12:42 PM (UtRhK)

63 At least he doesn't have the body count of Scott Walker.

Posted by: huffpo at February 25, 2014 12:42 PM (YEQ2h)

64 this was a good start on the Rubio rehab tour. As the left loves to shower those who "evolve" their way with praise, so we should shower praise on those who regain their senses and join us. Set up a positive feedback cycle

Posted by: Iblis at February 25, 2014 12:43 PM (9221z)

65 Rubio has been smart enough from the start to understand the immigration question. He knows we're not going to deport 12 million people. He knows the real argument is whether those who are here get permanent resident status or citizenship. He wants permanent residency. Democrats want citizenship. Our side calls them both "amnesty" and wants to tar and feather him. We need to get real.

Posted by: jwest at February 25, 2014 12:43 PM (u2a4R)

66 Sandy Korn was hot twenty years ago, don't know what happened to her.

Posted by: Mallfly at February 25, 2014 12:44 PM (bJm7W)

67 Our side calls them both "amnesty" and wants to tar and feather him.

We need to get real.


Not the hill to fight on, then?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 12:44 PM (8ZskC)

68 History proves that's always a bad bet.

Which they'd know if they ever bothered to read any history.

Does reading Zinn count?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 25, 2014 12:44 PM (4QSOR)

69 Considering that Iran is a big backer of these pigs, (they are supposedly building a missile base in the north of the country aimed at us), I would love to see some Mossad Joo sharks give some assistance to the people.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:44 PM (olDqf)

70 "Take this and love me again!"

Posted by: G.O.B. Rubio - holding a ForgetMeNow pill at February 25, 2014 12:44 PM (SwHqo)

71 sorry, immigration betrayal not forgotten, not forgiven. and that goes for Paul Ryan too.

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 12:44 PM (jdOk/)

72 He knows we're not going to deport 12 million people. Not with that attitude, we're not, mister.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 12:45 PM (Ggxte)

73 Posted by: bonhomme at February 25, 2014 04:44 PM (4QSOR) How about skimming Zinn, and mostly paying attention to the movie JFK? Does that work?

Posted by: David at February 25, 2014 12:45 PM (UtRhK)

74 Well I think we pretty much have the answer then. You'll never go wrong doing the exact polar opposite of whatever jwest recommends.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 12:45 PM (yz6yg)

75 Now let's talk about those $25,000 vouchers.

Posted by: Surely You Jest! at February 25, 2014 12:45 PM (Aif/5)

76 He knows the real argument is whether those who are here get permanent resident status or citizenship. He wants permanent residency. Democrats want citizenship. Is that why he co-sponsored the Senate bill that would've granted citizenship?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 12:45 PM (SY2Kh)

77 "this was a good start on the Rubio rehab tour." I've been wondering when it was going to start myself. Seems to have been ample time since the last time he stepped on his dick. Until he not only repudiates his Amnesty stance, but also shows some tangible work toward knocking that shit off, he won't get this constituent's vote.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 12:45 PM (gBnkX)

78 Anyone mention Micheal J Totten's current project? He's got some great updates on his trip to Cuba and the system and people there. Link is below I believe. I lurk.

Posted by: lost in the northwest at February 25, 2014 12:45 PM (0G/20)

79 I would love to see some Mossad Joo sharks give some assistance to the people.

They know not to tell US intelligence services about their activities.  Obama and his people have opened their mouths too many times now.  We'd only know if they got caught.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 25, 2014 12:46 PM (4QSOR)

80

 It was good.


But since Rubio isn't perfect on every issue I must hate him. And his garbage.

 

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Winter of Discontent will End! The Flowers of Fury will be here for Spring Planting at February 25, 2014 04:38 PM (hLRSq)

 

Yes.  Because purity.  On every topic.  Every time.  Otherwise... dead to me.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 25, 2014 12:46 PM (fwARV)

81 I need a public recantation of amnesty on Rubio's part, and then for me he's back in the mix.

Posted by: huffpo at February 25, 2014 12:46 PM (YEQ2h)

82 Does reading Zinn count? Posted by: bonhomme at February 25, 2014 04:44 PM (4QSOR) SAT Question: Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 12:46 PM (yz6yg)

83 65 Posted by: jwest at February 25, 2014 04:43 PM (u2a4R) You don't deport 12 million plus illegals. But you do not give them legality or benefits. And you punish the shit out of anyone who employs them. They'll ultimately deport themselves.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:46 PM (olDqf)

84 This is really good. I disagree with Rubio on key issues or two. And Chris Christie really is dead to me. But what they both have is something all too rare on our side: The ability to speak accurately and compellingly, with intellectual passion and actual, non-focus-grouped emotion, off the cuff. You'd think that would be a job requirement, but we've reached the point where I'm amazed a Republican can do it. M. Murcek: "When the revolution comes, they all believe they will be standing (holding a pistol) rather than kneeling (with a pistol held to the back of the head) alongside the ditch." This is really excellent.

Posted by: JPS at February 25, 2014 12:46 PM (ACW4S)

85

I love that Rubio is calling out the commies in no uncertain terms for their evil, but I'm not sure that our five decade embargo is the right tool for changing Cuba.  (Rubio rant: "We have sanctions against North Korea, why?"; cuz they're bad actors, etc.).

 

When the East German commies broke out of their prison country it was half for Freedom and democracy, and half for Coca-cola and cars that run.  They could see over the Wall that life was simply better on the other side. 

 

If we have trade, tourism and exchange (I almost said "intercourse", would that be a cheap joke?) with Cuba it will crumble from within faster. 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 12:47 PM (A0sHn)

86 66 Sandy Korn was hot twenty years ago, don't know what happened to her. Posted by: Mallfly at February 25, 2014 04:44 PM (bJm7W) She was 2 years old 20 years ago. What are you, the devil on Harry Reid's shoulder?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:47 PM (olDqf)

87 SAT Question: Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____ Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 04:46 PM (yz6yg) Theoretical physics?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 25, 2014 12:47 PM (bCEmE)

88 and took over PBS, forcing it to broadcast only pro-administration agitprop
***
Hasn't this already happened?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2014 12:48 PM (P3U0f)

89 SAT Question: Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____ Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 04:46 PM (yz6yg) Reality.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:49 PM (olDqf)

90 "If we have trade, tourism and exchange (I almost said "intercourse", would that be a cheap joke?) with Cuba it will crumble from within faster. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 04:47 PM (A0sHn) sure, because it worked so well with China.

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 12:49 PM (jdOk/)

91 Very passionate speech.... But I bet it was to an empty house... A speech for the Cameras... not a speech that will enlighten any of the other Senators...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 25, 2014 12:49 PM (84gbM)

92 I don't have an immigration hard-on. Is there another reason the horde turned on Rubio?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 04:34 PM (A0sHn)

 

 

I don't get wild about immigration either but I do get crazy when a Republican willingly becomes todays special in the Democrat caucus lunch room.

 

There is absolutely no reason to cozy up to the same refuse that turns around and makes you the subject of the weekly morality lecture in the Progressive Church meeting.  Fuck 'em and anyone who  volunteers  to  become their tool. 

Posted by: MTF at February 25, 2014 12:49 PM (B5y+v)

93 Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 04:46 PM (yz6yg) SAT Question: Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____ Cleopatra? Quentin Tarantino movies? A child eating paste? Toilet paper?

Posted by: David at February 25, 2014 12:49 PM (UtRhK)

94 88 and took over PBS, forcing it to broadcast only pro-administration agitprop *** Hasn't this already happened? Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2014 04:48 PM (P3U0f) Once upon a time, PBS produced and aired a series based on Milton Friedman's "Free To Choose." Before Bert and Ernie were licking each other's lint balls.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:50 PM (olDqf)

95

80 -

 

I know some of you people are not this naive.  It's not about issues.  It's about who owns the guy. 

 

There is a split in  the Republican party, if you haven't  noticed.  The big money types, the "Establishment," if you will, vs.  conservatives who want smaller  government. 

 

Rubio belongs to the Establishment. 

 

To borrow a phrase,  you're either with them or you're against us.  It's really that simple. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 12:50 PM (TOk1P)

96 SAT Question: Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____ Curling

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 12:50 PM (SY2Kh)

97 SAT Question: Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____ Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 04:46 PM (yz6yg Mickey will be remembered. Zinn will not.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 25, 2014 12:50 PM (hq5sb)

98 >>>Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____

Your wallet. In other words; He rapes it.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 25, 2014 12:50 PM (IVgIK)

99 And you punish the shit out of anyone who employs them.
***
The answer, were Republicans interested in addressing the issue of illegal amnesty in a constructive way, would be a $1M penalty for each instance of someone knowingly employing an illegal.

And then demagogue the hell out of any Dem that opposed on the grounds that they would rather employee an illegal then pay a market wage to an American.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2014 12:50 PM (P3U0f)

100 <<They are willing to defend -- and perpetrate themselves -- true evil because, they assert, their mission is so intrinsically good that its accomplishment will redeem all sins (including the sin of murder).>>

Thus the Russian Revolution of 1912 and the rise of Stalin.

Posted by: SGT. York at February 25, 2014 12:50 PM (aqeOH)

101 I know some of you people are not this naive. It's not about issues. It's about who owns the guy. There is a split in the Republican party, if you haven't noticed. The big money types, the "Establishment," if you will, vs. conservatives who want smaller government. Rubio belongs to the Establishment. To borrow a phrase, you're either with them or you're against us. It's really that simple. Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 04:50 PM (TOk1P) bingo!

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 12:50 PM (jdOk/)

102 Before Bert and Ernie were licking each other's lint balls. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 04:50 PM (olDqf) ::: psssst :::: YouÂ…youÂ…..ummmmmÂ….you got any video?

Posted by: Oscar the Grouch [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 12:51 PM (yz6yg)

103 74" Well I think we pretty much have the answer then." Yeah, our party doesn't need any young, good looking conservative politicians who can speak without tripping over their own tongues.

Posted by: jwest at February 25, 2014 12:51 PM (u2a4R)

104 There are quite a few people who wouldn't mind one little bit if we were rounded up and put into camps. For our own good. I'm starting to feel the same way about them. And it sickens me to know that.

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 25, 2014 12:51 PM (GrtrJ)

105
The part about "by any means necessary" ethic that the current leftists in America have especially in the Otyrant Admin is lying.  They will lie about something they said on camera yesterday.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2014 12:51 PM (n0DEs)

106 Until he not only repudiates his Amnesty stance, but also shows some tangible work toward knocking that shit off, he won't get this constituent's vote. Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 04:45 PM

This.

We have enough political hacks getting by on the words they spew. No one should get a pass -- or even be considered for higher office -- until they have a record of DEEDS to point to. Enough of the bloviating.

I don't care if Rubio passes the Poppin' Fresh Test and joins the pantheon of Teh Captain';s heroes (you know, Santorum, Pawlenty, etc.) -- when Mighty Marco shows some spine and some initiative, we can talk.

Until then, he's nothing more than a second-rate political hack.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 25, 2014 12:51 PM (ff7/5)

107 Is Tom Harkin the faux fighter pilot who lied about his service but still gets elected by the D's?

Posted by: ejo at February 25, 2014 12:51 PM (GXvSO)

108 If we have trade, tourism and exchange (I almost said "intercourse", would that be a cheap joke?) with Cuba it will crumble from within faster. Cuba has intercourse with every other nation in the world. Why would one more matter?

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 12:51 PM (QupBk)

109 OT: Now the Gay Mafia can hate on two college bowl games: http://tinyurl.com/nw8gpnd

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 12:52 PM (uCYHf)

110 I'm starting to think that Rubio really should run for president.

Posted by: Roadrunner at February 25, 2014 12:52 PM (+SWFt)

111 anyone who volunteers to become their tool. But they love me! They really love me!

Posted by: Senator John McCain at February 25, 2014 12:52 PM (SwHqo)

112 To borrow a phrase, you're either with them or you're against us. It's really that simple. Yes, if you're a simpleton.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 12:52 PM (SY2Kh)

113 I'm not sure what moved Rubio to decide he needed to get on the amnesty bandwagon right out of the box, naivety, dishonesty, some misplaced feeling of solidarity with the Latino community, but I'm not ready to right him off just yet. He's pretty damn good on a lot of issues, I'm willing to see if he learned his lesson on this one.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2014 12:52 PM (g1DWB)

114 102 YouÂ…youÂ…..ummmmmÂ….you got any video? Posted by: Oscar the Grouch at February 25, 2014 04:51 PM (yz6yg) EwwwÂ… peach fuzz! Will Harry Reid pick up the nearest courtesy phone...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:53 PM (olDqf)

115 And the way he drinks water - man, that's just it.  Look at him drinking that water like he's so special!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Winter of Discontent will End! The Flowers of Fury will be here for Spring Planting at February 25, 2014 12:53 PM (hLRSq)

116 I love how support for the rule of law and not trying to hand the Dems a permanent electoral superiority is pejoratively "pure."

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 12:53 PM (gBnkX)

117 My problem with Rubio is that it did not seem necessary for him to say -anything- about immigration. And why he did opine was either poor judgement or lack of discipline, or genuinely how he feels on the matter. I haven't sorted the guy out, yet.

Posted by: huffpo at February 25, 2014 12:53 PM (YEQ2h)

118 They'll ultimately deport themselves. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 04:46 PM (olDqf) I've postulated this before... but... STATES could impact the whole illegal thing... Identity theft and fraud are State, as well as Federal, laws. You use the Tax databases to figure out who is illegal... and go after them for Identity theft and fraud. You charge them, and tell them that their court date is in 3 months... but that you will NOT pursue them over International boundaries. Those you are wrong about? get a day in court to provide proof they are here legally... Many others will self deport rather than face jail time.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 25, 2014 12:53 PM (84gbM)

119 when Rubio is taking as much heat as Cruz and Lee, then I may rethink, but not until then.

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 12:54 PM (jdOk/)

120 There are quite a few people who wouldn't mind one little bit if we were rounded up and put into camps. For our own good.
***
They don't care about your good - you are a non-person.

That which empowers the left is good for the left that which weakens it is bad...this is the sum of left wing morality.

So the day they believe that it would advance the cause to try and do something like this...they will. And they will build a justification afterwards, but it will not be the reason why.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2014 12:54 PM (P3U0f)

121 109 OT: Now the Gay Mafia can hate on two college bowl games: http://tinyurl.com/nw8gpnd

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 04:52 PM (uCYHf)


Don't tell me. One of them was the Twinkie Bowl?

Posted by: flounder at February 25, 2014 12:54 PM (Kkt/i)

122 SAT Question:
Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____ >>

Minnie Mouse. Since we know Mickey was Fing Minnie.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 25, 2014 12:54 PM (tf9Ne)

123 You'll never go wrong doing the exact polar opposite of whatever jwest recommends. Back when 'curious' was trolling us with multiple nics I used to brag that I could sniff her out within the first sentence. So it is with jwest.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 25, 2014 12:54 PM (CnA98)

124 Yes, if you're a simpleton.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 04:52 PM (SY2Kh)

 

Time for a knifefight like in West Side Story!

 

Alright guys, start dancing!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Winter of Discontent will End! The Flowers of Fury will be here for Spring Planting at February 25, 2014 12:55 PM (hLRSq)

125

[Ace:] ..."It's a scary mentality. Anyone who has convinced himself that a little bit of murder in the service of preferred politics is excusable should proudly accept membership in the club which he has joined. And that club includes Stalin, Mao, Osama bin Ladin, and, yes, Hitler."

 

--------

 

Yeah, Ace, it is scary.

 

You can add the Clintons to that club, too.

There was a trail of dead bodies behind the Clintons, that the media turned a blind eye to.

 

Which makes the prospect of Hillary in the WH very scary.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2014 12:55 PM (DEUoo)

126 107 Is Tom Harkin the faux fighter pilot who lied about his service but still gets elected by the D's? Posted by: ejo at February 25, 2014 04:51 PM (GXvSO) I don't know, but George McGovern was the real thing. 30 missions in the pilot seat of a B-24 over Deutschland. You wonder how a guy like that could turn out to be so utterly wrong politically.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:55 PM (olDqf)

127

sure, because it worked so well with China.

 

The China story is not written yet.  No country has ever had economic freedom (they do) without political freedom (they don't).  The Chinese are becoming rich and cosmopolitan and will probably not kowtow to one-party rule forever. 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 12:55 PM (A0sHn)

128 but I'm not ready to right write him off just yet. He's pretty damn good on a lot of issues, I'm willing to see if he learned his lesson on this one. I am so posting this on my refrigerator to remind myself of the time I got to correct JackStraw's spelling.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 12:55 PM (SY2Kh)

129 Hitler still gets the bad press. He's a relative piker compared to the commies. And yet, he's always put at the top of the bill.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 04:36 PM (TOk1P)


But Hitler threatened Uncle Joe's iron commie grip, so that forever earns him the top position in the annals of history (as written by liberal historians without real jobs).


Also, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, and other commie dictators usually just killed their internal commie subjects, but Hitler killed external commies from other regimes.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2014 12:55 PM (o3MSL)

130 One thousand Attaboys can be wiped out with just one Oh Shit.
 
990 Attaboys to go, Rubio.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 25, 2014 12:55 PM (wNF3N)

131 As bad as Rubio's substance on immigration was the completely disingenous ad that went out in his name was worse: touting his "conservative" approach to immigration which described such things as "tough border enforcement" (omitting to mention the part about it being deferred and contingent. And, his ad boasted about proposed, "tough" requirements for "citizenship" though omitting mention of what amounts to Green Card amnesty, etc etc). Not to mention that if millions being "in the shadows" is good enough to grant amnesty to everyone now, how will we respond to "millions of second class citizens cut off from the right to vote..." etc Only a complete fool thinks that if we let millions live here permanently without requirements, just for the asking, that they won't eventually be granted the full complements of citizenship. No "hard on" for immigration? Try winning a general election, ever, with 50 million new, voting citizens from the 3d world, i.e. the US 10 years from now on its present trajectory.

Posted by: NYC Parent at February 25, 2014 12:56 PM (HEo6y)

132 >>>SAT Question:
Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____<<<



Being registered to vote.

(both are faked)

Posted by: Ewok staring at Marco's trash at February 25, 2014 12:56 PM (UIxS+)

133 sock off fer Chissakes....

Posted by: tubal at February 25, 2014 12:56 PM (YEQ2h)

134 Minnie Mouse. Since we know Mickey was Fing Minnie. I thought Mickey was just fucking goofy.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 12:56 PM (p9JxP)

135 Just secured myself a Hate Dinner! Timed my text perfectly to coincide with wifey getting ready to leave work, just as she was considering that we had decided to have Chicken Chili leftovers tonight (it's delicious, Crock Pot cookbook) and thinking about how much better it would be to grab a bagful of steaming chicken goodness rather than microwaving a fat-scrimmed bowl of leftover beak-chili. Deluxe Spicy sandwich, waffle fries are on order, I have to go check their website to choose a dessert. Best wife ever.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 12:56 PM (ZshNr)

136 @Hollowpoint 112 To borrow a phrase, you're either with them or you're against us. It's really that simple. Yes, if you're a simpleton. Thank God , a non-Tea Bagger ! Do you have any Grey Poupon?

Posted by: Senator John McCain at February 25, 2014 12:56 PM (SwHqo)

137 102Before Bert and Ernie were licking each other's lint balls.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 04:50 PM (olDqf)

::: psssst ::::

YouÂ…youÂ…..ummmmmÂ….you got any video?

Posted by: Oscar the Grouch at February 25, 2014 04:51 PM (yz6yg)

 

 

When you're done, could I see it?

Posted by: Kevin Clash at February 25, 2014 12:56 PM (5iuEW)

138 >>I am so posting this on my refrigerator to remind myself of the time I got to correct JackStraw's spelling. Sue me. I'm already in vacation mode.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2014 12:57 PM (g1DWB)

139 That which empowers the left is good for the left that which weakens it is bad...this is the sum of left wing morality. Posted by: 18-1 at February 25, 2014 04:54 PM (P3U0f) For a review of exactly why that is so, pick up Chapter 10 of The Road to Serfdom entitled, "Why the Worst Get on Top"

Posted by: Oscar the Grouch [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 12:57 PM (yz6yg)

140 127 sure, because it worked so well with China. The China story is not written yet. No country has ever had economic freedom (they do) without political freedom (they don't). The Chinese are becoming rich and cosmopolitan and will probably not kowtow to one-party rule forever. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 04:55 PM (A0sHn) sure they will, want to buy a bridge?

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 12:57 PM (jdOk/)

141 Thank God , a non-Tea Bagger wacko bird! Do you have any Grey Poupon? Posted by: Senator John McCain at February 25, 2014 04:56 PM (SwHqo) FIFY

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 12:58 PM (yz6yg)

142 118 Posted by: Romeo13 at February 25, 2014 04:53 PM (84gbM) It really is that simple. Enforce laws strictly and no benefits. When the Yanqui teat is cut off, they'll leave. Probably quicker than you think.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:58 PM (olDqf)

143

82 -

 

The Jonas Brothers?

 

(see South Park)

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 12:58 PM (TOk1P)

144 You keep making this distinction between liberals and leftists that, besides being irrelevant in the US, does nothing but give the left an argument that liberalism is OK, don't give them that out.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 25, 2014 12:58 PM (hn70M)

145 Anyone who has convinced himself that a little bit of murder

Just a small omelet comrade.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 25, 2014 12:58 PM (DL2i+)

146 The chilling thing that separates, in my mind, the leftist from the liberal is the former's "By any means necessary" ethic. They are willing to defend -- and perpetrate themselves -- true evil because, they assert, their mission is so intrinsically good that its accomplishment will redeem all sins (including the sin of murder). Ricardo Montalban once explained in an interview that The Villain never thinks what he is doing is evil, but that what he is doing is justified and for a good cause or reason

Posted by: kbdabear at February 25, 2014 12:59 PM (aTXUx)

147

116 I love how support for the rule of law and not trying to hand the Dems a permanent electoral superiority is pejoratively "pure."

 

Posted by: Burn the Witch

 

---------

 

^This!^ ...Times a thousand.

Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2014 12:59 PM (DEUoo)

148 For a review of exactly why that is so, pick up Chapter 10 of The Road to Serfdom entitled, "Why the Worst Get on Top"


Don't get me started.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 25, 2014 12:59 PM (8ZskC)

149 Rubio is still dead to me

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 25, 2014 12:59 PM (T2V/1)

150 Speaking of Howard Zinn, his "People's History of the United States" is bogus because there are no footnotes at all. It's one long screed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 12:59 PM (olDqf)

151 And the sad thing about Rubio's immigration clusterfuck was that it was pointless. He brought it up in a Presidential election year, when he had to know that nothing at all would happen except that the Democrats would use it against our candidate, almost as if that were his plan.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 12:59 PM (QupBk)

152 You wonder how a guy like that could turn out to be so utterly wrong politically. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 04:55 PM (olDqf) Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. Only we were to be the ones to get the "treatment"

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:00 PM (yz6yg)

153

I remember why I used to like Rubio.  Before he started serially lying to me about amnesty. 

I'll forgive quite a bit in a politician, but not someone who lies to my face repeatedly in service to an agenda that would destroy this country. 

Rubio is dead to me.

Posted by: SamInVA at February 25, 2014 01:01 PM (Q52VH)

154 SAT Question:
Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____ Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 04:46 PM
----------------------------

also history.

Posted by: irright at February 25, 2014 01:02 PM (8GKDa)

155 And the sad thing about Rubio's immigration clusterfuck was that it was pointless. He brought it up in a Presidential election year, when he had to know that nothing at all would happen except that the Democrats would use it against our candidate, almost as if that were his plan.


Yep. The policy was substantively awful, the presentation was fraudulent and the political strategy was utterly boneheaded.

Now what am I supposed to admire about Rubio again?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 01:02 PM (8ZskC)

156 Speaking of Howard Zinn, his "People's History of the United States" is bogus because there are no footnotes at all. It's one long screed. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 04:59 PM (olDqf) When I lived on Cape Cod I had a nice talk with his son once. He was the director of the local theater in Wellfleet. Yes. He's as mind numbingly stupid as his father.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:02 PM (yz6yg)

157 The chilling thing that separates, in my mind, the leftist from the liberal is the former's "By any means necessary" ethic. They are willing to defend -- and perpetrate themselves -- true evil because, they assert, their mission is so intrinsically good that its accomplishment will redeem all sins (including the sin of murder). When you think about it, isn't it the story of Barack Obama too?

Posted by: NBC News at February 25, 2014 01:02 PM (aTXUx)

158

112 -

 

We already know you're on the other side, Hollowhead. 

 

You and your establishment buddies spend your days  re-watching the Harriet Meiers SC confirmation hearings.

 

For fun. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 01:02 PM (TOk1P)

159 154 SAT Question: Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____ Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 04:46 PM ---------------------------- also history. Posted by: irright at February 25, 2014 05:02 PM (8GKDa) And hentai.

Posted by: tubal at February 25, 2014 01:03 PM (YEQ2h)

160 SAT Question: Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____ Copyright law?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 01:03 PM (VtjlW)

161 Screw the law Screw depressed wages Screw trying to reign in the welfare state Screw being in the permanent electoral minority We need somebody who looks good and speaks well. Shit, where have I heard this song before?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 01:03 PM (gBnkX)

162 154 SAT Question:

Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____

Posted by: Sean Bannion


Brain surgery.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 25, 2014 01:04 PM (hn70M)

163

Out of all the things that Rubio could've 'partnered' with the Dems on...Amnesty was the worst.

 

Because it would give the Dems a permanent majority of voters.

 

That's like a force multiplier.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2014 01:04 PM (DEUoo)

164 Cookie Sundae for the extra point.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 01:04 PM (ZshNr)

165 Screw the law Screw depressed wages Screw trying to reign in the welfare state Screw being in the permanent electoral minority We need somebody who looks good and speaks well. Shit, where have I heard this song before? Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 05:03 PM (gBnkX) Wait! Wait! I know! I know! I know! Pick me! jwest!!!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:04 PM (yz6yg)

166 I love how support for the rule of law and not trying to hand the Dems a permanent electoral superiority is pejoratively "pure." Posted by: Burn the Witch I think the point is that categorizing Republican politicians as either Good Guy Who Is Always Right or Bad Guy Who Is Always Wrong- with nothing in between- is foolish. Rubio screwed the pooch with his support for the extremely flawed Senate bill. He deserves whatever criticism he gets over it. That does not imply that he can't be right and useful when it comes to other issues.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 01:04 PM (SY2Kh)

167 It's all about electability.

Posted by: Karl Rove at February 25, 2014 01:04 PM (Aif/5)

168 Now what am I supposed to admire about Rubio again?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 05:02 PM (8ZskC)


My exquisite coiffure.  Will you believe that my team of nineteen brave, undocumented hairdressers costs less than one American hairdresser?

Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 25, 2014 01:05 PM (tv7DV)

169 158 112 - We already know you're on the other side, Hollowhead. You and your establishment buddies spend your days re-watching the Harriet Meiers SC confirmation hearings. For fun. Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 05:02 PM (TOk1P) damn that was funny, thank you.

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 01:05 PM (jdOk/)

170 Rubio is still dead to me Yeah, it's not like the wife had a short-lived affair with the guy across the street that someone could possibly forgive and forget. Rubio climbed in bed with the pool-boy, the landscaper, the leaf-blower, the roofer, the trash-man, and another other ten million job stealers. If *that is* the face of conservatism, I want no parts of it.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 25, 2014 01:06 PM (CnA98)

171 Aw shit, look out. Toby typed two sentences. He's worked the fuck up!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 01:06 PM (gBnkX)

172 Arafat won a Nobel Peace Prize in 1994.

Posted by: logprof at February 25, 2014 01:06 PM (X3GkB)

173 154 SAT Question:



Howard Zinn is to History as Mickey Mouse is to: ____


Howard Zinn?

And with that I have proved the hypothesis that Mickey Mouse and History are the same thing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 01:06 PM (8ZskC)

174

It's one long screed.

 

No. 1 Son came home from high school once several years back with a screed his history teacher had given him.  It didn't note authorship.  It was all about how we didn't have to nuke Japan, they were ready to surrender, we just nuked them to show the Russians our giant war dick. 

 

I told him his teacher was a commie and that he had to have gotten his ideas from either Zinn or Chomsky, so we googled it and it turned out to be Zinn word for word. 

 

It's one of my proudest parenting moments.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 01:06 PM (A0sHn)

175 Rubio screwed the pooch with his support for the extremely flawed Senate bill. He deserves whatever criticism he gets over it. That does not imply that he can't be right and useful when it comes to other issues. Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 05:04 PM (SY2Kh) Yes. These are facts. However, I'd need many more sternly worded speeches before I hop on the Rubio train. Again.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:06 PM (yz6yg)

176 Another SAT question :


Howard Zinn is to history as Adolf Hitler is to the : __________.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 25, 2014 01:07 PM (hn70M)

177 Sorry Rubio, you made your bed, you lay in it. You lied to me repeatedly about your intentions. You acted like I was a fool and a racist. You've never admitted you made a mistake. You've never apologized for painting a swath of the American public with the anti-immigrant paintbrush, even though you knew...you *knew* that was not the argument we were making. Last but not least, you teamed up with Chuck Schumer. So, no...I'm not interested in your platitudes today. Or ever.

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 25, 2014 01:07 PM (GrtrJ)

178

155...Now what am I supposed to admire about Rubio again?
 

Posted by: Cicero

 

---------

 

Because he talks real purdy...and has great hair.

Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2014 01:07 PM (DEUoo)

179 Howard Zinn is to history as Adolf Hitler is to the : __________. Posted by: Dr Spank at February 25, 2014 05:07 PM (hn70M) Polka

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:08 PM (yz6yg)

180
I don't have an immigration hard-on. Is there another reason the horde turned on Rubio?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 04:34 PM (A0sHn)









Doesn't matter if you are passionate about the immigration thing or not. If it was simply a matter of his one vote, that would be bad, but survivable. But he went out and co-wrote/co-sponsored the legislation with Schumer, legislation that the Donks are 100% in favor of.

The individual issue doesn't matter. You don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 25, 2014 01:08 PM (TIIx5)

181 Howard Zinn is to history as Adolf Hitler is to the : __________.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 25, 2014 05:07 PM (hn70M)


Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Posted by: irright at February 25, 2014 01:08 PM (8GKDa)

182 Howard Zinn is to history as Adolf Hitler is to the : __________.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 25, 2014 05:07 PM (hn70M)



Torah.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 01:08 PM (uCYHf)

183 "I think the point is that categorizing Republican politicians as either Good Guy Who Is Always Right or Bad Guy Who Is Always Wrong- with nothing in between- is foolish." If that's what were happening, you might have a point. But it's not, so you don't.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 01:08 PM (gBnkX)

184 However, I'd need many more sternly worded speeches before I hop on the Rubio train. Again. Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:06 PM

One or two pieces of legislation that adhere to conservative and constitutional principles might be nice, too.

Again: for me, words will no longer get my vote. Actions will.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 25, 2014 01:09 PM (ff7/5)

185 The individual issue doesn't matter. You don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 25, 2014 05:08 PM (TIIx5) yes, exactly

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 01:09 PM (jdOk/)

186 If that's what were happening, you might have a point. But it's not, so you don't. The comments in this thread indicate otherwise.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 01:09 PM (SY2Kh)

187 Cocaine Cowboys is an uplifting film now... at least the US had an economy then....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 25, 2014 01:09 PM (TE35l)

188 186 If that's what were happening, you might have a point. But it's not, so you don't. The comments in this thread indicate otherwise. Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 05:09 PM (SY2Kh) only in your mind.

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 01:10 PM (jdOk/)

189

177 -

 

And let's not pretend that  this is in his  past.  Those radio ads are still running.  The ones telling us about  "sensible, conservative" solutions to the immigration problem.

 

That's his group.  Those are his people.  They're still in the shadows.  Rubio is just to scared to come out of the shadows  right now. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 01:11 PM (TOk1P)

190 Howard Zinn is to history as Adolf Hitler is to the : __________.

Posted by: Dr Spank

The correct answer was Jews, people. Don't complicate things.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 25, 2014 01:11 PM (hn70M)

191 @182 You won the meme.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 01:11 PM (gBnkX)

192 176 Another SAT question : Howard Zinn is to history as Adolf Hitler is to the : __________. Posted by: Dr Spank at February 25, 2014 05:07 PM (hn70M) House Painter's Union?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:11 PM (olDqf)

193 But I don't want to go fishing ...

Posted by: Fredo Rubio at February 25, 2014 01:11 PM (QupBk)

194 176 Another SAT question : Howard Zinn is to history as Adolf Hitler is to the : __________. Posted by: Dr Spank at February 25, 2014 05:07 PM (hn70M) MATT DAMON!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:11 PM (olDqf)

195 Rubio says a few words. BIG FRIKKIN WHOOP.

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 25, 2014 01:12 PM (GAlP7)

196 Maybe I'm not paying attention, but what, exactly are Marco Rubio's accomplishments? Over and against oh, say, Scott Walker?

Posted by: tubal at February 25, 2014 01:12 PM (YEQ2h)

197 I saw the Stones do Rubio Tuesday at Altamont. Then I got stabbed by Hell's Angels.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:13 PM (olDqf)

198 Ricardo Montalban once explained in an interview that The Villain never thinks what he is doing is evil, but that what he is doing is justified and for a good cause or reason

There's a UK sketch comedy show called, "That Mitchell and Webb look" that played off of that.  Two Nazis are in a foxhole and one starts asking about the skull icon on their hat.  He points out that all of the Allies have parachutes and animals and things on their hats.  He wonders aloud, "Are we the baddies?"  After some discussion they run off screen, as if they've decided to abandon their posts because clearly anyone with a skull on their hat is on the wrong side.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 25, 2014 01:13 PM (4QSOR)

199 Everybody keeps saying "immigration".  The bill he cosponsored with the commies was "amnesty"

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 25, 2014 01:13 PM (T2V/1)

200 One or two pieces of legislation that adhere to conservative and constitutional principles might be nice, too. Again: for me, words will no longer get my vote. Actions will. At least point out the many ways this administration is hurting the economy with unbridled spending, high taxes and overregulation. Gotta start somewhere.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 25, 2014 01:13 PM (0HooB)

201 I'm seeing a twitter rumor that Cuban forces are now in Venezuela to help put down the violence inherent in the system demonstrators.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 01:13 PM (uCYHf)

202 MATT DAMON!!!! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 05:11 PM (olDqf) Thanks, J.J. JustÂ….thanks. That was a perfectly good Sprecher's Root Beer. A little warning next time?

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:13 PM (yz6yg)

203 Maybe I'm not paying attention, but what, exactly are Marco Rubio's accomplishments? Over and against oh, say, Scott Walker?

Posted by: tubal at February 25, 2014 05:12 PM (YEQ2h)


Great Maker, are you blind?  Just look at my hair!

Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 25, 2014 01:14 PM (tv7DV)

204 I saw the Stones do Rubio Tuesday at Altamont. Then I got stabbed by Hell's Angels.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February

 

You forgot your Meridith Hunter sock.

Posted by: Meridith Hunter at February 25, 2014 01:14 PM (A0sHn)

205 Rubio lies just as bad as that bastard Bush.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Obamaboro, Vt at February 25, 2014 01:14 PM (+7GJR)

206 "The comments in this thread indicate otherwise. Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 05:09 PM (SY2Kh)" No, that's just your usual willfully obtuse reading of opposing opinion. Or as we call it around here: Tuesday

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 01:14 PM (gBnkX)

207 >> “have far more to do with returning economic and political elites to power than with their downfall.<<

So that's why I see so many older people in smoking jackets and ascots at the protests...

That young beauty queen they shot in the head, someones chold, someones baby- was she a "political or economic elite".

Good grief. Do these people even read what they've written?

Posted by: Marcus T at February 25, 2014 01:15 PM (GGCsk)

208 Or as we call it around here: Tuesday Heh. Seriously, Grease Monkey is the shizzle.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:15 PM (QupBk)

209 Rubio lies just as bad as that bastard Bush. Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Obamaboro, Vt at February 25, 2014 05:14 PM (+7GJR) Looks like Mary needs some Obamacare for that early onset dementia. She can't even spell her name right anymore. Poor gal. Too bad the website still doesn't work.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:15 PM (yz6yg)

210 Speaking of taking to the airwaves, I have today heard twice on the Bismarck sports radio station an ad taken out by Trans Canada talking about their technology and safety measures for the Xcel pipeline. Nice to hear them trying to drum up pushback against 0bama's enviro Know Nothings.

Posted by: logprof at February 25, 2014 01:15 PM (X3GkB)

211 204 Posted by: Meridith Hunter at February 25, 2014 05:14 PM (A0sHn) I know I mentioned this a few days ago, but I really like your art.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:15 PM (olDqf)

212 Yes. These are facts. However, I'd need many more sternly worded speeches before I hop on the Rubio train. He's a politician. As is Ted Cruz and John McCain. With the possible exception of during the primaries, who says you have to (or should) hitch your wagon to any of them? I keep hearing over and over that "principles" should reign supreme over every and any other consideration. Yet, the focus always seems to end up being on the messenger.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 01:16 PM (SY2Kh)

213 But what about his creases? Are they exquisite?

Posted by: David Brooks at February 25, 2014 01:16 PM (Aif/5)

214 w

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2014 01:16 PM (D+lxs)

215 Leftists are just liberals who have thought their ideology through to the logical conclusion and decided they can live with it.  Your average liberal either hasn't thought it through, or has and won't admit it to themselves.

Posted by: irright at February 25, 2014 01:16 PM (pMGkg)

216 re: nazi skulls and shit I'm pretty sure Hitler is heavily into the occult. Hitler was well aware he was evil and 'of' evil.

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 25, 2014 01:16 PM (GAlP7)

217 Thanks, J.J. JustÂ….thanks. That was a perfectly good Sprecher's Root Beer. A little warning next time? Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:13 PM (yz6yg)
 You're the one who violated Rules For Morons Number Four. Don't go blaming everyone but you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 01:16 PM (VtjlW)

218 202 A little warning next time? Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:13 PM (yz6yg) I thought the whole idea was to make the soda go up your nose? Oh well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:16 PM (olDqf)

219

I know I mentioned this a few days ago, but I really like your art.

 

Thanks.  I missed that mention.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 01:17 PM (A0sHn)

220 I keep saying, the leftists are not going to like this new paradise they think they are building at all.

And they'll still be blaming me and you as they're being lined up against the wall . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 25, 2014 01:17 PM (VjL9S)

221 At least point out the many ways this administration is hurting the economy with unbridled spending, high taxes and overregulation. Gotta start somewhere.

The only way to point those things out adequately is to force a stop to them. That would require impeachment, which (aside from the Bad Optics the pundits of the so-called "conservative" movement whinge about every time the subject comes up) would involve a lot of hard work and risk losing your spot at the Bottomless Trough Congress members in good standing get to go0rge themselves from.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 25, 2014 01:17 PM (ff7/5)

222 But what about his creases? Are they exquisite?


You know who had boffo creases? Judas Iscariot.

Posted by: The Sanhedrin at February 25, 2014 01:17 PM (8ZskC)

223 We don't need to deport them all at once.  Just start with Rubio.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at February 25, 2014 01:17 PM (jj+6/)

224 Rubio is now in 'Rick Santorum' level of support. Sure he can run, sure he can collect millions of dollars of contributions, sure he can pocket them when he inevitably drops out. Not bad work, if you can get it. But does he look as 'dashing' in a sweater vest that little old 'church ladies' are gonna open up their checkbooks?

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 25, 2014 01:17 PM (CnA98)

225 215 Leftists are just liberals who have thought their ideology through to the logical conclusion and decided they can live with it. Your average liberal either hasn't thought it through, or has and won't admit it to themselves. Posted by: irright at February 25, 2014 05:16 PM (pMGkg) In short, Paradise on Earth can best be summed up by the sign on an old colleague's door: "The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:18 PM (olDqf)

226 I hate  Socialists  with the white hot.  Suckers of cock.

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 01:18 PM (fsLdt)

227 I'm seeing a twitter rumor that Cuban forces are now in Venezuela to help put down the violence inherent in the system demonstrators. They've been in country "advising" (running) their internal security apparatus for some time now.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 01:18 PM (SY2Kh)

228 127 No country has ever had economic freedom (they do) without political freedom (they don't). The Chinese are becoming rich and cosmopolitan and will probably not kowtow to one-party rule forever. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 04:55 PM (A0sHn) ------------------------------------ Eh. There are quite a few politically unfree countries who have had as much (or much more) economic freedom as China. Franco's Spain and Pinochet's Chile come immediately to mind. But as to Cuba, why do you think that lifting the embargo will magically result in more economic freedom?!? Trade with dozens of other rich, Western countries hasn't done a damn thing to loosen the screws. Cuba, under its current system, has very little to sell and thus little hard currency to buy Western goods. What they DO get is used at tourist hotels and by the elite. Period. Until they lighten up on economic tyranny, the way the Chinese did, foreign trade won't help the people at all. Indeed, their situation seems to get worse and worse, especially outside of Havana.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 25, 2014 01:19 PM (dfYL9)

229 I would like to judge people by their best day, not their worst. That was a passionate, righteous speech from the heart by Rubio. I hope he has many more and some substantive legislation to come.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 25, 2014 01:19 PM (GGCsk)

230 Your average liberal either hasn't thought it through, or has and won't admit it to themselves. Posted by: irright at February 25, 2014 05:16 PM (pMGkg) THIS. When I met my hippie chick wife we were living in Boston during the 2004 Dem convention. So politics, which to that point had not come up at all, came up routinely. I remember after one argument just looking at her and saying, "Look. I don't care what you believe in. Just do me a favor and know why you believe it." That was an epiphany to her. I suspect it is to many people who come by their politics through osmosis. OhÂ…and she's more conservative than I am now. Love found a way.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:19 PM (yz6yg)

231
Damn, Rubio, I feel like a jilted lover.  Why did you have to fuck up on immigration?  Can we go back to pretending an R House would not let him pass immigration anyway,  so he can be President?

Posted by: pashmr at February 25, 2014 01:19 PM (3aNC4)

232 I mentioned this before but it seems appropriate here. Oliver Stone on Twitchy is complaining that far right wing extremist paper The New York Times is lying about how benevolent the Venezuelan government is and how icky the protestors are.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 01:19 PM (Hx5uv)

233 226 I hate Socialists with the white hot. Suckers of cock. Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 05:18 PM (fsLdt) The white hot what?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:19 PM (olDqf)

234 Damn. I'd kill for a Sprecher.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 01:19 PM (Ggxte)

235 Rubio didn't go far enough.

The words "coward, liar, chicken, stooge, fool, enabler and ass" were not included as a description of Harkin.

There should have been repeated "and this is what Mr. Harkin and his party support--this murder, this beating, this oppression."

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 25, 2014 01:19 PM (VjL9S)

236 I still don't trust Rubio any farther than I can throw his hair piece.

Posted by: Strife at February 25, 2014 01:19 PM (ZW1Ga)

237 They've been in country "advising" (running) their internal security apparatus for some time now.


If you want advice on running a country, why  not go with the best?

Posted by: The Boys in Havana at February 25, 2014 01:20 PM (8ZskC)

238 232 Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 05:19 PM (Hx5uv) Oliver Stone can go shove his head up Harry Belafonte's ass with Danny Glover pulling from the opposite end.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:20 PM (olDqf)

239

Reagan got suckered into signing an Amnesty Bill...because it was tied to strengthening the border.

 

I wonder how many of those 3 million new voters voted for Clinton, in '92?

 

I remember how Clinton fast-tracked thousands of citizenship documents for Mexican immigrants during his term.

How many of those new voters are voting D now?

 

Our immigration system may be 'broken'...but it was the Dems who broke it, so they could rig the system even more in their favor.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2014 01:20 PM (DEUoo)

240 btw, you know what the next bullshit 'rift' on the Right will be and is ready to go? The AZ bill (that Jan Brewer probably won't sign) that supports religious freedom against the Leftist's homosexual pathetic tools. I hope I'm wrong, but I have a sick feeling Ace's libertarianism ends with this type of bill. We shall see...

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 25, 2014 01:21 PM (GAlP7)

241

Your average liberal either hasn't thought it through, or has and won't admit it to themselves.

 

I don't think liberals think anything through.  If they were capable of that I do think some would back away from that ideology.

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 01:21 PM (fsLdt)

242 Damn. I'd kill for a Sprecher. Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 05:19 PM (Ggxte) That's why I'm pissed! It was my last one! :::: shakes fist at sky ::: Seeeffffttttttttoooonnnnnnn!!!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:21 PM (yz6yg)

243 212 Yes. These are facts. However, I'd need many more sternly worded speeches before I hop on the Rubio train. He's a politician. As is Ted Cruz and John McCain. With the possible exception of during the primaries, who says you have to (or should) hitch your wagon to any of them? I keep hearing over and over that "principles" should reign supreme over every and any other consideration. Yet, the focus always seems to end up being on the messenger. Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 05:16 PM (SY2Kh) wrong again, Ted Cruz is Mr. Principle, that's why he fights even when he knows he will lose, because it isn't about winning or losing its about the principle, about doing what is right, rather than what is expedient.

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 01:21 PM (jdOk/)

244 I saw White Hot open for Hinges of Hell, Butler University, 1971.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 25, 2014 01:21 PM (aDwsi)

245 OhÂ…and she's more conservative than I am now. Love found a way. Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:19 PM (yz6yg) You are venturing pretty deeply into Ryan and Cake Girl level of bragging now.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 01:22 PM (VtjlW)

246 I thought the whole idea was to make the soda go up your nose? Oh well. Posted by: J.J. Sefton When you are receiving flak, you're over the target.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 01:22 PM (p9JxP)

247 Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 05:19 PM (Ggxte)

Are they in season?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2014 01:22 PM (QFxY5)

248 The white hot hot thing.

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 01:22 PM (fsLdt)

249 if Cruz ever stops doing what's right, I will drop him faster than a hot potato who speaks well and has great hair.

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 01:22 PM (jdOk/)

250 You are venturing pretty deeply into Ryan and Cake Girl level of bragging now. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 05:22 PM (VtjlW) So you're saying I shouldn't post any of that boudoir photography?

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:23 PM (yz6yg)

251 There's all this talk about Maduro and whether he's a good guy or a bad guy but the essential question is never asked: How are the creases in his pants?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 01:23 PM (Hx5uv)

252 I suspect it is to many people who come by their politics through osmosis.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:19 PM (yz6yg)


My Mom was that way.


Me: Why are you a Democrat?

Mom: Because my Momma was a Democrat, and that's good enough for me.


That came to a screeching halt when Bubba and the Cigar hit the news.  Mom's party loyalty stood no chance against her 1950s sensibilities.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 01:23 PM (uCYHf)

253 wrong again, Ted Cruz is Mr. Principle... Self-awareness is not strong with this one.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 01:23 PM (SY2Kh)

254 239 I wonder how many of those 3 million new voters voted for Clinton, in '92? Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2014 05:20 PM (DEUoo) Virtually all of them. Probably multiple times. Every election for the past 40 years has seen the percentage of Latino voters voting GOP shrink and shrink and shrink. There is never and will never be any surge of so-called "natural born conservatives" because these people aren't. They come from and are lured by big government lucre. Rubio and his parents' generation are dying out and even young Cuban Americans are becoming more and more liberal over time. But Karl Rove is the architect.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:23 PM (olDqf)

255 He who controls the toilet paper, controls the universe.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:23 PM (QupBk)

256 "Look. I don't care what you believe in. Just do me a favor and know why you believe it."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:19 PM (yz6yg)

My mantra.

Well, I still mock them if they believe the wrong things, but still....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2014 01:24 PM (QFxY5)

257 Sure, you say you love me now but just wait.

Posted by: A Hot Potato at February 25, 2014 01:24 PM (8ZskC)

258 I remember how Clinton fast-tracked thousands of citizenship documents for Mexican immigrants during his term.  Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2014 05:20 PM

And Bubba looks like an absolute border-enforcin', stand-yer-ground anti-illegal hardass when compared to Choom Boy.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 25, 2014 01:24 PM (ff7/5)

259 Sometimes Leftists are honest about what Fascism really was, and therefore who is actually to blame for it. "Fascism is nothing but Capitalist reaction." -- Leon Trotsky

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 25, 2014 01:24 PM (spmY9)

260 He who controls the toilet paper, controls the universe. Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 05:23 PM (QupBk) Truer words were never spoken. Especially in the Middle East.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:24 PM (yz6yg)

261

244 -

 

Isn't White Hot the band that burned up a club full of their fans in Rhode Island (or Connectabutt, or whatever  other silly little state it was) a few years back? 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 01:24 PM (TOk1P)

262 242 Seeeffffttttttttoooonnnnnnn!!!!! Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:21 PM (yz6yg) Ach so!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:24 PM (olDqf)

263 As for Rubio, subhuman mongrel.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 25, 2014 01:24 PM (spmY9)

264 Venezuela, Cuba? Full of subhuman mongrels.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 25, 2014 01:25 PM (spmY9)

265 253 wrong again, Ted Cruz is Mr. Principle... Self-awareness is not strong with this one. Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 05:23 PM (SY2Kh) explain? you say I am lacking in self-awareness, ok, enlighten me.

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 01:25 PM (jdOk/)

266 The punchline goes-
'Well, if you still say "Neigh", I'm not carrying this bucket another step. Or this cement block'.

Posted by: Erowmero at February 25, 2014 01:25 PM (OONaw)

267 He who controls the toilet paper, controls the universe. *Wink*

Posted by: Mr Whipple at February 25, 2014 01:25 PM (Ggxte)

268 Leopoldo Lopez? Fag.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 25, 2014 01:25 PM (spmY9)

269 This is tiresome,I want a Godzilla thread.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 01:26 PM (zqvg6)

270

"Rubio has been smart enough from the start to understand the immigration question.
<b>He knows we're not going to deport 12 million people.</b>
He knows the real argument is whether those who are here get permanent resident status or citizenship.
He wants permanent residency.
Democrats want citizenship.
Our side calls them both "amnesty" and wants to tar and feather him.
We need to get real."

 

This.  We need a quicky path to permanent residency for people (the non criminal kind) coming across the border, and then we need to stop feeling bad about tossing out any and all criminals who come. We need to make these people legal, whether we make them citizens or not. The system we have isn't working, and straight amnesty didn't work. We need to try something else.

 

I'm not saying I'm 100% sold on Rubio, I think he needs seasoning, but that speech was fantastic and I am still pissed that people went apeshit about Perry when he started talking about Mexican kids in college. 

Posted by: Lea at February 25, 2014 01:26 PM (lIU4e)

271 @ 263



Hey, that's my shtick.

Posted by: Strife at February 25, 2014 01:26 PM (ZW1Ga)

272 263 As for Rubio, subhuman mongrel. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 25, 2014 05:24 PM (spmY9) Dude, my Labradoodle is offended.

Posted by: tubal at February 25, 2014 01:26 PM (YEQ2h)

273 Great White

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 01:26 PM (Ggxte)

274 261 244 - Isn't White Hot the band that burned up a club full of their fans in Rhode Island (or Connectabutt, or whatever other silly little state it was) a few years back? Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 05:24 PM (TOk1P) --No, Great White

Posted by: logprof at February 25, 2014 01:26 PM (X3GkB)

275 is never asked: How are the creases in his pants? Posted by: WalrusRex -------------------- Sharp...., very sharp.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 25, 2014 01:26 PM (aDwsi)

276 261 No,that was Great White.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 01:26 PM (zqvg6)

277 why, what did Godzilla do now?

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 25, 2014 01:26 PM (GAlP7)

278 We need a quicky path to permanent residency for people (the non criminal kind) coming across the border Why?

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:27 PM (QupBk)

279 But Rubio is relatively coherent for someone who is both a subhuman mongrel and a politician. One wonders why he didn't just call Raul and Maduro Fascists like a blue-eyed intellectual would.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 25, 2014 01:27 PM (spmY9)

280 --No, Great White Posted by: logprof -------------------------- Just for the record..., NOT me.

Posted by: Moby Dick at February 25, 2014 01:27 PM (aDwsi)

281 Wasn't Subhuman Mongrel's debut album produced by Mutt Lange?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:28 PM (olDqf)

282 Mayor of Tokyo: You've destroyed 90% of the bu8ildings and population of Tokyo. Do you expect us to talk? Godzilla: No Mr. Tokyo, I expect you to die.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 01:28 PM (Hx5uv)

283 Look, if you just want to make Hollowpoint go away, simply ask him to give examples of how current and past GOP strategy has led to electoral and fiscally conservative victory. It's like garlic to a vampire.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 01:28 PM (gBnkX)

284 We need a quicky path to permanent residency for people (the non criminal kind) coming across the border -- Yeah, fuck that retarded fucking shit with Alec Baldwin's diseased Irish cock.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 25, 2014 01:28 PM (ZPrif)

285 Just heard that Aaron Hernandez has attacked a fellow inmate in his prison. Go Gata!

Posted by: logprof at February 25, 2014 01:28 PM (X3GkB)

286 If anything, we need to eliminate birthright citizenship by statute. Fat chance of that though.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:28 PM (QupBk)

287 I'd rather go hunting with Nugent than golfing with Obama. Just sayin'.

Posted by: tubal at February 25, 2014 01:28 PM (YEQ2h)

288 >>wrong again, Ted Cruz is Mr. Principle, that's why he fights even when he knows he will lose, because it isn't about winning or losing its about the principle, about doing what is right, rather than what is expedient. Please. So was Sarah Palin who was against immigration until she put that little principle aside to run with Mr Amnesty himself and then when they lost she became principled again. Cruz has done an excellent job of forcing guys he finds impure to make painful votes because they aren't crazy all the while Cruz knew he would come off as a principled hero because no matter what happened he would win re-election in Texas. Cruz was all about Cruz which is fine but lets stop pretending he would have acted the same way if he was Ted Cruz, junior Senator from MA. Politicians playing politics is not exactly a shocking turn of events.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2014 01:29 PM (g1DWB)

289 We need a quicky path to permanent residency for people (the non criminal kind) coming across the border


Yes. We "need" this.  Well argued.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 01:29 PM (8ZskC)

290 282 Mayor of Tokyo: You've destroyed 90% of the bu8ildings and population of Tokyo. Do you expect us to talk? Godzilla: No Mr. Tokyo, I expect you to die. Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 05:28 PM (Hx5uv) It's only a model train set...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:29 PM (olDqf)

291 Probably because he lacks that superpower. The eyes are the thought organ, after all. You can always tell how intelligent a person is by their eye color. And there's actually nothing Fascist about that sort of thinking so it's great and politically correct.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 25, 2014 01:29 PM (spmY9)

292 240-duh. You are supposed to grin and bear it until the left realizes your good intentions, at which time all will be well and they will leave you alone.

Posted by: ejo at February 25, 2014 01:29 PM (GXvSO)

293 what did Godzilla do now?

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 25, 2014 05:26 PM (GAlP7)

Sold the rights to his life to some Hollywood schmuck.

Sell-out!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2014 01:29 PM (QFxY5)

294 I'm not saying I'm 100% sold on Rubio, I think he needs seasoning, but that speech was fantastic

Mussolini gave a pretty good speech, too.  (dodged Godwin's Law)

Posted by: pep at February 25, 2014 01:29 PM (6TB1Z)

295

Jeez, people.  I know that. 

 

 

If   I  am not allowed to   make a joke about a few hundred dead people on a thread like this, what CAN  I  joke about?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 25, 2014 01:30 PM (TOk1P)

296 Why can't we just declare all illegal aliens in the US citizens of Cuba?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:30 PM (olDqf)

297 I expect ace will put the new Godzilla trailer in his last post of the day open thread.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 01:30 PM (zqvg6)

298 All countries need to provide "quickie" legal residency for anyone who bothers to walk across the border.  Because, compassion.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 01:30 PM (8ZskC)

299 Why can't we just declare all illegal aliens in the US citizens of CubaCanada?

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:30 PM (QupBk)

300 Godwinelli's Law.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 25, 2014 01:31 PM (ZPrif)

301 As an atheist, I take offense to the name "Godzilla." It should be "Gaiazilla."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:31 PM (olDqf)

302 Yes, Rubio can deliver with passion. I haven't forgotten that.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2014 01:32 PM (IXrOn)

303 Or Gaiazirra...

Posted by: tubal at February 25, 2014 01:32 PM (YEQ2h)

304 299 Why can't we just declare all illegal aliens in the US citizens of CubaCanada? Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 05:30 PM (QupBk) Old and Busted = Hey, hoser. Teh New Hotness = Hey, José.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:32 PM (olDqf)

305 Is Godzilla the new Sharknado, or are we supposed to anticipate it unironically? 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 01:32 PM (A0sHn)

306 301 Gojira is the proper name.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 01:32 PM (zqvg6)

307 Yes, Rubio can deliver with passion.

So can Ron Jeremy.

Posted by: pep at February 25, 2014 01:33 PM (6TB1Z)

308 288 >>wrong again, Ted Cruz is Mr. Principle, that's why he fights even when he knows he will lose, because it isn't about winning or losing its about the principle, about doing what is right, rather than what is expedient. Please. So was Sarah Palin who was against immigration until she put that little principle aside to run with Mr Amnesty himself and then when they lost she became principled again. Cruz has done an excellent job of forcing guys he finds impure to make painful votes because they aren't crazy all the while Cruz knew he would come off as a principled hero because no matter what happened he would win re-election in Texas. Cruz was all about Cruz which is fine but lets stop pretending he would have acted the same way if he was Ted Cruz, junior Senator from MA. Politicians playing politics is not exactly a shocking turn of events. Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2014 05:29 PM (g1DWB) what you are saying would make sense if all the things Cruz were doing were actually enhancing his personal position, but everything Cruz is doing is gamble with no sure pay off, and more likely will end his political career unless he wins, and it is not certain at all that he will.

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 01:33 PM (jdOk/)

309 And THAT is why I pay extra for the ultra high speed internet. Because sometimes milliseconds matter. :-) Posted by: Mætenloch at February 25, 2014 04:30 PM (XkotV) especially in gaming

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2014 01:33 PM (IXrOn)

310 I'm a nativist of the Chinese stripe. To me, America is THE Middle Kingdom. I wouldn't trade the lowest FSA member for the effin King of Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:33 PM (QupBk)

311 283 Look, if you just want to make Hollowpoint go away, simply ask him to give examples of how current and past GOP strategy has led to electoral and fiscally conservative victory. It's like garlic to a vampire. Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2014 05:28 PM (gBnkX) The opposite of that is numerous mentions of Palin and/or a Palin thread. There must be a siren that goes off when those come up.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 25, 2014 01:33 PM (oFCZn)

312 "Rubio has been smart enough from the start to understand the immigration question. He knows we're not going to deport 12 million people. He knows the real argument is whether those who are here get permanent resident status or citizenship."

Rubio has tried to be on both sides of this at once. Then his fence-straddling feet slipped and he landed squarely on his crotch.

He gave an English-language network TV interview in which he said, "Of COURSE we're not proposing that people get voting citizenship and government benefits right away."

And then went on Spanish-language Univision and said, "Of COURSE you are going to get voting citizenship and government benefits right away!"

I don't trust a guy who says different things in different languages tailored to different audiences. That's an old Yasser Arafat schtick and it's thoroughly disreputable for good reason.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2014 01:33 PM (gqT4g)

313 We need quicky Amnesty. Also quicky universal pre-K. Also quicky sensible gun control Also quicky abortions. Enacting the Left's agenda is ok, we just need to do it "quicky" style. That's how "we" can separate ourselves from the Left -- we'll enact their policies, just faster!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 25, 2014 01:33 PM (ZPrif)

314 Leftists, being "racists," are convinced that "brown" people can't really do any better than Communism, and even if they could, they deserve to have Communism inflicted on them. Because the Spanish Inquisition, or Franco, or Chihuahuas.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 25, 2014 01:34 PM (spmY9)

315 King Kong gets way hotter chicks than Godzilla.

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 01:34 PM (fsLdt)

316 Im travelling, why is CNN running a Holder's Radical Legacy scroll? Did  he get hit by a bus?

Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2014 01:34 PM (9qtuj)

317 We need a quicky path to permanent residency for people (the non criminal kind) coming across the border Why? Posted by: toby928 ------------------ A good question, but the suggestion ought to be rejected outright, rather than entertained in any way. The basis for the rejection is straightforward, accepting those people it serves only the well-being of the of the illegal aliens, and works against the well-being of the Republic and it's citizens. Once the 'compassion' argument is taken off the table it simply is not possible to make a rational argument that our best interests are served by absorbing these folk. Hmm. Okay, I see the flaw in my statement..., it is that 'rational argument' part where it falls apart for the Left. The issue is not about rationality, it is about political philosophy.

Posted by: Moby Dick at February 25, 2014 01:34 PM (aDwsi)

318 Hey Mateyloch, I heard your liver is starting to resemble my face. I would be worried.

Posted by: Jan Brewer, Another Worthless GOP Scrunt at February 25, 2014 01:34 PM (Cs2tJ)

319 So you're saying I shouldn't post any of that boudoir photography?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:23 PM (yz6yg)



What is this boudoir photography of which you speaketh?  Pics or it didn't happen!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2014 01:34 PM (o3MSL)

320 And speaking of Godzilla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJoy_0dJEjY

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 25, 2014 01:35 PM (olDqf)

321 Drops Moby sock

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 25, 2014 01:35 PM (aDwsi)

322 explain? you say I am lacking in self-awareness, ok, enlighten me. My point was that there's too much focus on the messenger. You engaged in just the sort of Personality Cultism I was talking about. Had Ted Cruz delivered this exact same speech, we'd be hearing nothing but how awesome it was and that he's again fighting back and standing for principle because after all he's "Mr. Principle". Rubio having committed a transgression on illegal immigration though, they're just empty words from an Establishment traitor.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 01:35 PM (SY2Kh)

323 255 He who controls the toilet paper, controls the universe. Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 05:23 PM (QupBk) *********** The Toilet Paper must flow....

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 01:36 PM (RJMhd)

324 what did Godzilla do now? Posted by: Soothsayer at February 25, 2014 05:26 PM (GAlP7) Sold the rights to his life to some Hollywood schmuck. Sell-out! - Yeah, now he's hawking miracle stair steppers that make you lose 25 pounds a week without really trying.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 01:36 PM (Hx5uv)

325 I will crush your global warmening coal plants and replace them with the clean energy of burning cities.

Posted by: Sciencezilla at February 25, 2014 01:36 PM (tv7DV)

326 "He knows we're not going to deport 12 million people."

Why not

Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2014 01:36 PM (9qtuj)

327 >>what you are saying would make sense if all the things Cruz were doing were actually enhancing his personal position, but everything Cruz is doing is gamble with no sure pay off, and more likely will end his political career unless he wins, and it is not certain at all that he will. Then stop pretending conservative principles are popular. Because that is exactly what Cruz is doing, tailoring his message to the most hardcore conservative positions in the belief that it will carry him to higher office. And pretending it hasn't worked in early primary states like Iowa where he is polling double digits in front of his nearest competitor would suggest it most certainly is working. And if it does and he wins then great. But pretending he isn't also a politician, just some principled saint, is ridiculous. He is playing the game and playing it well. For him so far, remains to be seen if it will help us.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2014 01:37 PM (g1DWB)

328 297 I expect ace will put the new Godzilla trailer in his last post of the day open thread. Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 05:30 PM (zqvg6) Lots of Cranston in that trailer. I might have to see it due to him. Which reminds me from the earlier thread: If I ever get rich I'm hiring Cranston to do wrathful Walter White when he delivers my resignation notice to my employers.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 25, 2014 01:37 PM (oFCZn)

329 The situations in both Cuba and Venezuela could actually be resolved through facile military interventions. But since that wouldn't start WWIII and would benefit "brown" people, people aren't all that interested in doing that.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 25, 2014 01:37 PM (spmY9)

330

And speaking of Godzilla:

 

Awesome song.  One of my all time favs.

 

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 01:37 PM (fsLdt)

331
So I see the NFL is trying a little gay fascism threat on the AZ Superbowl.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2014 01:37 PM (n0DEs)

332 I'd like to believe Rubio has greatness in him.  I really would.  But the evidence is too stark that he's a lightweight, and when you're a lightweight, Chuckie Schumer makes you his bitch.  Don't be Chuckie Schumer's bitch.

Posted by: pep at February 25, 2014 01:37 PM (6TB1Z)

333 We also need quicky felon voting, ideally mail in. We also need quicky EPA regulation. It's taking way too long for them to kill off the coal industry. Quicky polygamy. That's a winner, obviously. Quicky taxation. Quicky minimum wage increases. Quicky federal wetlands protection. There's lots of quicky stuff we need.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 25, 2014 01:37 PM (ZPrif)

334 King Kong gets way hotter chicks than Godzilla. - If you're thinking Jessica Lange in the 1976 version I definitely agree.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 01:38 PM (Hx5uv)

335 So here's the deal on Rubio.

I genuinely credit that he hates Castro and what Castro has done to the country to which Rubio traces his roots.

Except the millions of illegal aliens who Rubio wants to make American citizens with voting rights? They don't share that opinion of his. Not for one second.

Come on out here to Commiefornia and I'll drive you through areas where illegals congregate and you can take a look at the individuals they choose to wear on T-shirts in heroic poses. They just LOOOOOOOOVE them some Castro, some Chavez, some Che.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2014 01:38 PM (gqT4g)

336 Unlike most of you, I'm personally opposed to general legal immigration. We've invited in enough people of the world for the time being. A couple or three decades of assimilation is in order. If there are some out there with assets or skills we need, a special procedure could be set up.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:38 PM (QupBk)

337 325 "He knows we're not going to deport 12 million people." We may intern 12 million in the camps, though. Just a different demographic.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 25, 2014 01:38 PM (q4b1Z)

338 Godzilla movie--and Hillary looms large-- Coincidence? No.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 01:38 PM (RJMhd)

339 What is this boudoir photography of which you speaketh? Pics or it didn't happen! Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2014 05:34 PM (o3MSL) Oh. I have the pics. I have the pics indeed. See ya at NoVAMoMee

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:39 PM (yz6yg)

340 327 He is good.First place I remember seeing him was as Dr Tim Whatley on Seinfeld than Malcolm in the Middle.Who knew he had such excellent dramatic acting chops until Breaking Bad?

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 01:39 PM (zqvg6)

341 I heart Jessica.  ::drool::

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 01:39 PM (fsLdt)

342 Don't be Chuckie Schumer's bitch.

Posted by: pep at February 25, 2014 05:37 PM (6TB1Z)


If you even get on the same podium as Chucky Schumer, you are off my list!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2014 01:39 PM (o3MSL)

343 See ya at NoVAMoMee

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:39 PM (yz6yg)


The PowerPoint presentation should be awesome!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2014 01:40 PM (o3MSL)

344 337 Well,her ankles are almost as thick...

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 01:40 PM (zqvg6)

345 We may try to intern 12 million in the camps, though. Just a different demographic.

Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2014 01:40 PM (9qtuj)

346 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 25, 2014 05:37 PM (oFCZn)

Say My Name!

"Thrombosis"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2014 01:41 PM (QFxY5)

347 Rubio having committed a transgression on illegal immigration though, they're just empty words from an Establishment traitor.

Sorry, nope.  Committing a transgression is speeding.  F******g a goat on the capital steps is more serious, and Rubio did the whole herd. 

There are many things I forgive.  Lying to my face, repeatedly, isn't one of them.

Posted by: pep at February 25, 2014 01:41 PM (6TB1Z)

348 343 337 Well,her ankles are almost as thick... Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 05:40 PM (zqvg6) *********** And her screech is uncanny.....

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 01:41 PM (RJMhd)

349 Had Ted Cruz delivered this exact same speech, we'd be hearing nothing but how awesome it was and that he's again fighting back and standing for principle because after all he's "Mr. Principle". Rubio having committed a transgression on illegal immigration though, they're just empty words from an Establishment traitor. Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 05:35 PM (SY2Kh) Rubio lost is cred. Cruz is building cred. by bucking and fighting the leadership. it's that simple. and to repeat, support Cruz because he does and says what I think needs to be done and said, if he were stop doing that tomorrow, I would abandon him without hesitation. I don't care who does the right thing, I will support whoever is doing it. what's the right thing? shrink the government, it's power, it's scope, it's spending and do it now.

Posted by: Shoey at February 25, 2014 01:41 PM (jdOk/)

350 335 Unlike most of you, I'm personally opposed to general legal immigration. We've invited in enough people of the world for the time being. A couple or three decades of assimilation is in order. If there are some out there with assets or skills we need, a special procedure could be set up. Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 05:38 PM (QupBk) This is actually my position too. Nothing inherently wrong with it. Course, we run the risk of being screeched at as "nativists" or some other such shit.

Posted by: tubal at February 25, 2014 01:42 PM (YEQ2h)

351 341 If you even get on the same podium as Chucky Schumer, you are off my list! That ... right there ... is the one and only reservation I have about Marco Rubio.' But it's a really big fucking reservation. What part of actually compromising with Schumer, McCain, and Graham actually appealed to Rubio ? Did they make him feel like he was part of the Big Boy Group ? Screw that. It exposes a critical character flaw.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 25, 2014 01:42 PM (q4b1Z)

352 I have the pics indeed.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:39 PM (yz6yg)

Great.

Full size posters of Bannion in his favorite lingerie.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2014 01:42 PM (QFxY5)

353 Remember when the 98 Godzilla( travesty) came out and Rage Against the Machine were on the soundtrack mentioning in the song how capitalism distracts the people with things like Godzilla?Commies taking a paycheck always make me chuckle.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 01:42 PM (zqvg6)

354 Godzilla movie--and Hillary looms large-- - Strange but true. You can refer to Hillary! as Kween Kong but not to . . .

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 01:43 PM (Hx5uv)

355 If you're thinking Jessica Lange in the 1976 version I definitely agree. Posted by: WalrusRex

Agree, but Father Time was particularly unkind to her. 

Posted by: pep at February 25, 2014 01:43 PM (6TB1Z)

356 Kill all the employers! You just know they're guilty of employing Hispanics. And the only reason they're republicans, is because they're too greedy to pay their fair share of taxes. Kill them!

Posted by: Pure Conservative at February 25, 2014 01:43 PM (k3w9p)

357

Yeah...Rubio delivered a passionate speech in the above video.

 

But how about some passionate speeches for US workers who are out of work?

 

I kept waiting for him to say..."And this is why we need to grant citizenship to these oppressed people fleeing from these dictators."

 

 

To those who say we "can't deport 12 million people"...

Why not?

Do it...for the middle class.

Do it...because they broke the law.

Do it...because we can't afford 12 million more people on entitlements.

 

If Rubio wants to win me back, he can start by showing some compassion for the citizens who are already here, paying taxes and abiding by the law.

What about them?

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 25, 2014 01:44 PM (DEUoo)

358 Hector?

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:44 PM (QupBk)

359 To be fair, if your on that podium beating Schumer with a hickory stick; I would reconsider.

Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2014 01:44 PM (9qtuj)

360 "If you even get on the same podium as Chucky Schumer, you are off my list!"

Exception: if someone gets up there with Chucky and says, "Oh look, a TV camera," and then as Schumer instantly reflexively turns to get in front of it, crudely shoulder-checks the greasy little shit right off the stage.

Oops! Sorry! My bad! Better put some ice on that!

Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2014 01:44 PM (gqT4g)

361 To be fair, if your on that podium beating Schumer with a hickory stick; I would reconsider. I'm choking to death here.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:45 PM (QupBk)

362 335 --- I happen to agree with you--- but as you say, our view is not a popular one. I am a first generation (legal) immigrant myself, BTW, so I suppose my support of a moratorium on all immigration could be seen as mean and selfish. Tough.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 25, 2014 01:45 PM (dfYL9)

363 Agree, but Father Time was particularly unkind to her. - Time is a cruel mistress.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 01:46 PM (Hx5uv)

364 If Rubio struts out with Schumer and announces ... "I will consider Immigration Reform, but first, you will blow me" ... then I'm back on Team Marco.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 25, 2014 01:46 PM (q4b1Z)

365 To those who say we "can't deport 12 million people"...
Why not?
Do it...for the middle class.
Do it...because they broke the law.
Do it...because we can't afford 12 million more people on entitlements.

Screw that, give them identity politcis up the ass.  Pay unemployed young black kids a $500 bounty for identifing companies hiring "undocumented" workers.


Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2014 01:47 PM (9qtuj)

366 Great. Full size posters of Bannion in his favorite lingerie. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2014 05:42 PM (QFxY5) Don't worry! I promise I'll shave. My back.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 25, 2014 01:47 PM (yz6yg)

367 Sorry, nope. Committing a transgression is speeding. F******g a goat on the capital steps is more serious, and Rubio did the whole herd. There are many things I forgive. Lying to my face, repeatedly, isn't one of them. You don't have to forgive him. He's the one that fucked up. However, that doesn't mean he shouldn't get any credit when he does the right thing and does it well, as was the case with this speech.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2014 01:48 PM (SY2Kh)

368 "Unlike most of you, I'm personally opposed to general legal immigration. We've invited in enough people of the world for the time being. A couple or three decades of assimilation is in order. If there are some out there with assets or skills we need, a special procedure could be set up."

It's going to be necessary to have a hundred thousand a year or so high level STEM professionals with graduate degrees.

America can't get enough natives through to that level thanks to the damage which public sector unions and leftist pedagogy have inflicted on the public schools. Fixing that is going to take 20 years of rebuilding from kindergarten on up.

Other than that skills gap, I too see no economic reason why America requires mass immigration of low-skilled or unskilled workers at this time.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2014 01:49 PM (gqT4g)

369 We are not The World, nor are we the children. We're a sovereign nation that should be looking out for it's own citizens. It's fine when we help other countries, as long as it's in our own interest, but the interest of others, per se, have zero weight with me. God made us to love by proximity, in declining concentric circles. I'm willing to let Hawaiians into my circle of citizenly love, but that's where I draw the line.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:50 PM (QupBk)

370 Other than that skills gap, I too see no economic reason why America requires mass immigration of low-skilled or unskilled workers at this time.

Posted by: torquewrench

I can make an argument for it, even a conservative argument.  But I won't until the right shows some spine on other fiscal and moral issues.  Fight like the NRA, Chamber, and I'll respect you in the morning.

Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2014 01:53 PM (9qtuj)

371 Now I have an image of Bannion reclining naked on a leather couch with a Burt Reynolds come hither look, and a doberman strategically blocking his crotch. It's going to take a lot of drinking to get that out of my head, but I think I'm up to the challenge.

Posted by: toby928© at February 25, 2014 01:54 PM (QupBk)

372 When Republicans can be as genuine and passionate as this - about a topic that actually matters to the American people - they'll win in a landslide.

Posted by: Vi at February 25, 2014 01:57 PM (O7jbf)

373 Sometimes I wish the Obama administration would try to take away our guns. It would fully justify the complete removal of his government by force.

Posted by: gastorgrab at February 25, 2014 04:39 PM (FX38i)

 

All it takes, I believe, is the death or retirement of one Supreme Court Justice to effectively nullify the 2nd Amendment via deliberate redefinition of its meaning. Or Obama could order the EPA to declare one or more of the components of rifle and handgun cartridges--lead and brass and copper-- as dangerous pollutants and go after ammunition manufacturers and distributors, bury them with inspections and fines and IRS audits a la Catherine Englebrecht. Restricting the ammo supply one way or another would be construed by the general public as far less provocative than knocking down doors and confiscating privately owned firearms.

 

Anyway, that's what I would do if I was a tyrannical asshole intent on disarming those I perceive as my real enemies.

Posted by: troyriser at February 25, 2014 02:02 PM (O66NZ)

374 Oh, dear. Now the Obama administration has some new ideas to pursue, Troy. Just yanking your chain, Troy ;^) but I wouldn't put it past them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 25, 2014 02:07 PM (XyM/Y)

375 Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 25, 2014 05:47 PM (yz6yg)

Sounds like the Power Point presentation will be simply faaabulous.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2014 02:10 PM (o3MSL)

376 Great speech by Rubio.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 25, 2014 02:12 PM (XyM/Y)

377 wow a full throated defense of liberty an attack on tyrants ...its been a long time

Posted by: thunderb at February 25, 2014 02:24 PM (zOTsN)

378

Yes, it was a great speech.  Whether this and subsequent actions mark a comeback in conservative circles and puts Rubio back into presidential contention remains to be seen, but I personally doubt it. 

 

Allowing himself to be the conservative face of the Gang of 8 immigration reform legislation was a huge miscalculation on Rubio's part, but he went ahead anyway, eager to lose his 'Tea Party extremist' image and make himself a more attractive candidate to the moderate-leaning, big money donors who bankroll the GOP Establishment. Even worse, Rubio allowed himself to be played by Chuck Schumer, of all people. None of this says much for Rubio's political judgement.

Posted by: troyriser at February 25, 2014 02:36 PM (O66NZ)

379 Marco, you are undead to me now.

Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at February 25, 2014 05:24 PM (yqIMw)

380 I've lost count of how many students research and present with starry eyes; the most unbelievably whitewashed versions of the lives of Mao, Castro, Che and Chevez. They reach such distorted results from consulting mainstream articles from our Marxist media and left-wing academic publications found everywhere. Finding online and published library sources, not propagandizing the glories of modern communist governments, is harder than you think. When I bring up Mao's or Che's estimated dead body count and political reigns of terror; many of them react with indifference or worse. I've encountered students annually that attempt to defend political purges as necessary. Their facial expressions are extremely disturbing. It's their nonchalant acceptance of past mass murders for achieving a political goal. In most cases their families are extreme left-wing. You wonder what sort of conversations go on over dinner. And then there are the annual Holocaust deniers or in some cases, the celebraters; including faculty(and one principal). The first time I ran into those deranged minds - no amount of evidence or rational discussion will move their mindset- I went home and sat staring at the sky for hours. It was my first encounter with serious political insanity.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 25, 2014 10:32 PM (OU1Hh)

381 Marco, you are undead to me now. Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at February 25, 2014 09:24 PM (yqIMw) I am going to take a second look as well. VP perhaps. The media will attempt to Palinize him as a Cuban Republican.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 25, 2014 10:36 PM (OU1Hh)

382 No single individual is going to turn around this country.

So if Rubio steps up to the plate, and hits a grand-slam shaming useful idiots/or gutless wonders such as Tom Harkin, we should be cheering, not undercutting him for his ill-conceived stance  on immigration.

His speech here obviously resonates, because he is speaking with personal understanding of what is happening on the ground in Latin America.

My take on the purity test is simple.  I'm tired of investing my
hopes and aspirations into a single individual.   That's the "Messiah complex" we have in full force with the current POTUS, and its an attitude that contributes to the over centralized power that exists in Washington D.C.

We need a chorus of talented people of the likes of Rubio, Cruz, Christie, Paul, Paul, Walker, and Palin all hammering academia, the MSM, and Hollywood from all sides on how brain damaged and destructive Democratic driven policies have been.

Good speech, Marco.
 


 

Posted by: Levin at February 26, 2014 04:45 AM (cQ4Va)

383

Rubio wants legal imigration; unfortunately, he is naive beyond belief.  Democrats are willing to use him to get their open door policy, but they are never going to enforce any immigration laws; now or ever. If he ever grows up maybe his political career will take off.

  

 

 

 

Posted by: burt at February 26, 2014 07:42 AM (1+kJ5)

384 Rubio just hit a grand slam. It is SHAMEFUL that we don't have 500 other "American" congresspersons saying the same thing he did. Btw, he reiterated his position in a special broadcast of CNN Espanol last night and called Maduro out for the thug that he is. It made me cry, literally, to see and hear his clarion voice of liberty amidst the defeanening silence of the rest of the world. God bless him!! Maduro is committing genocide here, and Rubio is standing up to him squarely. God bless him!! SOSVenezuela!!

Posted by: Southern boy in Caracas at February 26, 2014 06:15 PM (O+Pbp)

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