February 11, 2014
— Ace No limits.
We knew, previously, that many in Congress considered the fight against the debt-limit hike to be "theater."
Still, a “clean” debt-limit hike — one with no strings attached — has not been ruled out, and Boehner reiterated his desire to avoid a federal default.Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) agreed. “It’s theater,” he said, commenting on the latest flurry of stories about possible GOP plans. “It’s going to end up being clean anyway. I don’t see anything they can put on the table that I would support as some sort of trade-off.”
Settling on a strategy that can win 200-plus GOP votes is Boehner’s chief goal, according to his aides. His whip team will fan out through the House this week to get a better sense of whether members are coalescing around a particular option. Months after the poll-sinking government shutdown and months before the midterm elections, Boehner is looking to keep the Republican drama to a minimum.“Listen, I don’t do the vote counting,” Boehner told reporters when asked about House GOP dynamics. “The goal here is to increase the debt ceiling. Nobody wants to default on our debt. But while we’re doing this, we’ve got to do something” on jobs or the economy.
I remarked last week or the one before that I'm personally not enraged by this. We're getting beaten; we don't have the cards.
There is a bit of "theater," however, in the Republicans votes on this. As AllahPundit notes, the Republicans voting for the debt ceiling hike are either leadership, or blue-state Representatives who have to answer to blue-state constituents, or people who are, conveniently, about to retire.
And I guess I could be mad about that too, but that gets close to being angry to find some politics going on in politics.
I suppose I just think, at this point, there are more important things to be alarmed about.
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Posted by: huerfano at February 11, 2014 02:43 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2014 02:43 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Darth Randall at February 11, 2014 02:44 PM (xWgW3)
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 02:44 PM (38LLM)
And I'm going to tell them to go ahead and take a little taste for themselves as well. Taka wheelbarrow load of cash home with them to stuff the mattress. Might as well, while we're being so generous with our grandchildren's money.
Posted by: Sphynx at February 11, 2014 02:46 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 02:46 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Darth Randall at February 11, 2014 02:46 PM (xWgW3)
Posted by: mugiwara at February 11, 2014 02:47 PM (3a584)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 02:47 PM (6bMeY)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 02:47 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 02:48 PM (38LLM)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 02:49 PM (obTkq)
Posted by: Beagle at February 11, 2014 02:49 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 02:49 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 02:49 PM (2m+Da)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 11, 2014 02:49 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Math at February 11, 2014 02:50 PM (rCOda)
Posted by: Gulo Gulo, It's a type of weasel. at February 11, 2014 02:50 PM (ClirY)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 02:50 PM (IXrOn)
Uh, yeah, about that allegedly "poll-sinking" government shutdown:
The Beltway Republicans got rolled, again, on that one. The media once again did their classic Lucy-with-the-football trick. They ran many dozens of polls, and then collectively seized upon the one massive outlier among those polls which showed Republicans being strongly blamed. That outlier was of course a CBS poll with absolutely ridiculous internals and enormous Democratic overrepresentation in the sample.
Did the GOP calmly stick to their guns? No. They panicked and wet their pants in fear, and Boehner folded like a cheap card table.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 11, 2014 02:50 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 02:50 PM (obTkq)
How would actually shutting the government down be a bluff? And the government wasn't shut down, except for parking areas at the national parks.
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 02:51 PM (38LLM)
Those on the other side say that thing.
Everyone loathes each other.
Not a single thing changes.
Fuck it. I'm gonna go drink a bottle or two of wine.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 11, 2014 02:51 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 02:51 PM (vilcv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 02:51 PM (6bMeY)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 02:51 PM (obTkq)
Posted by: Gulo Gulo,<<
No, we've sat on the stick and squirmed around to shove it up our own asses. There, now that's done. On to the next debt ceiling.
Posted by: Sphynx at February 11, 2014 02:51 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: TexasJew at February 11, 2014 02:52 PM (U+u4A)
Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2014 02:53 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: anon a mouse at February 11, 2014 02:53 PM (gXRIG)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 02:53 PM (obTkq)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 11, 2014 02:53 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2014 02:53 PM (8ZskC)
For the record, those blackouts are because of the ice storm.
Just tossing that out there.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 11, 2014 02:53 PM (Gk3SS)
--- Angela Tantaros, via Twitter
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 02:54 PM (38LLM)
Posted by: TexasJew at February 11, 2014 02:55 PM (U+u4A)
Maybe if I sit still long enough the minimum wage will pass me and I can go to McDonald's for a job.
Posted by: Sphynx at February 11, 2014 02:55 PM (OZmbA)
Rolling around on the Polar Bear rug with the Blurred Lines Brunette.<<<
Sounds like my Wednesday night!
Posted by: Vlad Putin at February 11, 2014 02:55 PM (vbK1S)
Posted by: MTF at February 11, 2014 02:56 PM (7ynIk)
Posted by: Huma at February 11, 2014 02:56 PM (X3GkB)
We're getting beaten; we don't have the cards.
If just having the better hand is all that mattered, you wouldn't have poker.
Bluff, strategic betting, calculated risk and just plain starring the other guy down can win the pot.
But, you know -- Team Republican.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 11, 2014 02:56 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Charlie Effing Gibson at February 11, 2014 02:57 PM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 02:57 PM (38LLM)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 11, 2014 02:57 PM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Sphynx at February 11, 2014 02:58 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: --- at February 11, 2014 02:58 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: blaster at February 11, 2014 02:59 PM (4+AaH)
Why do they even bother waste time talking about raising the debt ceiling? Why don't they just make it a 20 trillion? What's the next number after trillion, jillion? Just go ahead and make it a jillion, no wait a jillion trillion. That should fix the problem, at least for another 10 or 20 years. Then they can raise it again if there's anyone left to do it.
Jesus Flying Christ why do we have to have these jerks ruling over us? The way they create, and throw away money is insane. We all know it can't go on, but incredibly we stand here gape jawed watching it, like a slow motion giant snake eating it's tail.
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 03:00 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 06:51 PM (6bMeY)<<<
Fuck you! Don't compare me with that shit!
Posted by: BitCoin at February 11, 2014 03:00 PM (vbK1S)
Posted by: tubal at February 11, 2014 03:00 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 03:00 PM (vilcv)
This is a direct result of the failed shutdown.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe
In a sense, isn't Christine O'Donnell really to blame?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 11, 2014 03:00 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Beagle at February 11, 2014 03:01 PM (sOtz/)
Really? Really? Going to nail the colors to that mast?
Because what the actual history shows is that in the '96 elections, the GOP lost a grand total of two seats in the House, a whopping eighty-seven one hundredths of one percent of their previous, while still comfortably retaining control.
And the GOP picked up _three_ seats in the Senate at the same time, again retaining control.
Results like that are "being punished by voters"? Shit, it would be great to have more of that level of "punishment" today. Thank you, Mistress, may I have another!
It is true that the GOP was beaten by Bill Clinton in the 1996 Presidential returns. Although perhaps if the GOP had bothered to run a candidate who was actually alive, that too might have worked out better than it is remembered as having done.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 11, 2014 03:01 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 03:02 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 03:03 PM (X3GkB)
Get my point?
Posted by: John Boehner at February 11, 2014 03:03 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: torquewrench<<
Bob Dole is alive and he's got the stiffy to prove it.
Posted by: Bob Dole at February 11, 2014 03:03 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 11, 2014 03:03 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 11, 2014 03:03 PM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 03:04 PM (6bMeY)
Posted by: TexasJew at February 11, 2014 03:04 PM (U+u4A)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 11, 2014 03:04 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Your Betters in the RNC at February 11, 2014 03:05 PM (CnA98)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 11, 2014 03:05 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: jake at February 11, 2014 03:05 PM (VMOSv)
Didn't the repubs say they would focus on the debt limit when they sold us out by caving on the budget deal ?
Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 11, 2014 03:06 PM (GgPam)
Posted by: Real Men Of Genius at February 11, 2014 03:06 PM (/o+xv)
Bukkake. All the way down.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 11, 2014 03:06 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 11, 2014 03:07 PM (/o+xv)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 11, 2014 03:08 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 11, 2014 03:08 PM (GEICT)
No. I didn't.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 11, 2014 03:08 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 11, 2014 03:08 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: TexasJew at February 11, 2014 03:08 PM (U+u4A)
Posted by: Kim Kardashian at February 11, 2014 03:09 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 03:09 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 11, 2014 03:09 PM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2014 03:09 PM (8ZskC)
Yup.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:10 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 03:10 PM (6bMeY)
Not in the slightest.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 11, 2014 03:10 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 11, 2014 03:10 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Kim Kardashian at February 11, 2014 03:10 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 03:10 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 03:10 PM (TAP/5)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 03:10 PM (3WKNG)
Posted by: Joe Biden at February 11, 2014 03:10 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 11, 2014 07:06 PM (Gk3SS)
I, for one, think she meant exactly what she said.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:11 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Gulo Gulo, It's a type of weasel. at February 11, 2014 03:11 PM (ClirY)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:12 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 11, 2014 03:13 PM (60Vyp)
Could somebody clue me in on why it was so important for the GOP to capture the House and why unless the GOP captures the Senate the lefties will ruin America?
Because at this point, to quote the next POTUS ...
What difference does it make?
Posted by: kbdabear at February 11, 2014 03:13 PM (aTXUx)
Has saved me a ton in liquor bills and psychiatrist fees to be able to pop off like this.
Posted by: Sphynx at February 11, 2014 03:13 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Kim Kardashian at February 11, 2014 03:13 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 03:13 PM (3WKNG)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 03:14 PM (6bMeY)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 03:14 PM (TAP/5)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 11, 2014 03:15 PM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 11, 2014 07:09 PM (/o+xv)<<<
My left eye, my right eye, and my brown eye.
Posted by: Bob Costas at February 11, 2014 03:15 PM (vbK1S)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 07:14 PM (6bMeY)
Suggest that again and I'll put you in the barrel myself. Not The Barrel, but the plastic one from Breaking Bad.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:16 PM (x3YFz)
Boehner is the dumb gangster playing against Capt Kirk in that made up card game, "Fizzbinn"
Posted by: kbdabear at February 11, 2014 03:17 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Cato at February 11, 2014 03:17 PM (OdVTN)
Posted by: Morseus at February 11, 2014 03:18 PM (BHGji)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 03:18 PM (3WKNG)
Posted by: The NSA, 2025 at February 11, 2014 03:18 PM (TAP/5)
All those tactics are a lot more effective when the other guy doesn't know what cards you are holding.
Posted by: JackStraw
So Boehner telling a news conference that the United States should not default on its debt and "shouldn't even get close to it", and "there's not much really to talk about" because Obama has said he would not negotiate on the debt limit was bad strategy?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 11, 2014 03:18 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:18 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 11, 2014 03:19 PM (CnA98)
Posted by: Morseus at February 11, 2014 07:18 PM (BHGji)
If you guys will be kind enough to gather them all up, I'll find the hill.
We'll take it from there.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:19 PM (x3YFz)
The Republican leadership doesn't want to rock the boat prior to the 2014 midterms, when they think they'll regain the Senate. Hence their tactical retreat.
But it's a long way to November 2014.
While it may be theater, I would have at least picked a small fight even if I knew I would still retreat in the end.
1) Demand that Obama act on Keystone, one way or the other. No more having it both ways. Then I'd call bullshit loudly when he say's he's for "all of the above" on energy.
2) Ask again for an across-the-board legislated delay in ObamaCare. Then point out the bullshit in this being called an outrageous demand last time around given that Obama has since been putting in delays piecemeal and illegally.
Obama's response will be to once again say that on the debt ceiling he won't negotiate with terrorists. Even if the Republicans then folded Obama would be made to look like a foolish intemperate asshole. This matters in getting out swing moderate voters.
The Republicans just can't sit on their hands until November.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2014 03:19 PM (EPEqj)
If things are as bad as we think they are, then it would probably be a pretty good guess that they are worse than that. Just sayin'
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 11, 2014 03:19 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 07:14 PM (6bMeY)
FIFY
Posted by: The Fixer at February 11, 2014 03:19 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 11, 2014 03:19 PM (GgPam)
We're not in crisis, and it's time republican's understand that spending will never create a debt crisis because Janet Yellen will simply print more money until the shortfall is eliminated.
Republican's have no basic knowledge of economics or they would have endorsed unlimited spending. It was not until President Obama explained it in simplistic terms did they finally acquiesce and agree with the president that unlimited spending isn't harmful, and there is indeed an unlimited supply of money. Money is everywhere, and it does grow on Janet Yellen's tree.
Posted by: Jo Jo Biden at February 11, 2014 03:19 PM (nQjHM)
Posted by: Lauren at February 11, 2014 03:20 PM (hFL/3)
Damn. You're right, US politics right now is all one giant game of Fizzbin being played on us by the Left.
Posted by: Cato at February 11, 2014 03:20 PM (OdVTN)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 03:20 PM (TAP/5)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:20 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 03:20 PM (6bMeY)
Posted by: tubal at February 11, 2014 03:20 PM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: Beagle at February 11, 2014 03:21 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 03:21 PM (3WKNG)
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2014 07:19 PM (EPEqj)
...
you're new here, aren't you?
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:21 PM (x3YFz)
Oh wait! I'll just raise my debt ceiling!!!
Posted by: kbdabear at February 11, 2014 03:22 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 03:22 PM (TAP/5)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 03:22 PM (6bMeY)
Posted by: tubal at February 11, 2014 07:20 PM (YEQ2h)
/bunk
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:22 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Sir Hilary Flabbyface at February 11, 2014 03:22 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 03:23 PM (JdEZJ)
3) moderate corrupt fatsos like donut Christie
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 07:14 PM (TAP/5)
Heh. I originally read that as, "cypto fatsos."
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at February 11, 2014 03:23 PM (M5T54)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 03:24 PM (TAP/5)
This is so much better than when Jon Stewart stumbles over a grain of political rationality:
http://tinyurl.com/k2nnxv9
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 11, 2014 03:24 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:24 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 11, 2014 03:24 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 11, 2014 03:24 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 03:24 PM (4w7wl)
So then what does the Republican party stand for?
Well, on the same day the House was raising the debt ceiling to "what-EVER!", a House committee was passing a ban on cell phone calls on planes.
Because it disturbs the Representative flying home for the weekend sitting next to you.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 11, 2014 03:25 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 03:25 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2014 03:25 PM (n0DEs)
what are they there for . again?
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2014 03:25 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Lauren at February 11, 2014 07:20 PM (hFL/3)
Makes controlling you easier.
Posted by: Retread at February 11, 2014 03:25 PM (cHwk5)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:25 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: Lauren at February 11, 2014 03:25 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 11, 2014 03:26 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2014 03:26 PM (nqBYe)
pffffft. Too late. I went to get some contact lens solution, and the lines were enormous.
Posted by: pep at February 11, 2014 03:26 PM (6TB1Z)
what's up with that?
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2014 03:27 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 03:27 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 03:27 PM (6bMeY)
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2014 03:28 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Lauren at February 11, 2014 07:25 PM (hFL/3)
not to give the NSA details, but we've been at that for about 6 years now. Coming along nicely. Solar. Greenhouse.
Turtle up, find like-minded friends around you. best advice I can give.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:29 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 03:29 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 11, 2014 03:29 PM (CnA98)
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 03:29 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 11, 2014 07:26 PM (P6QsQ)
The talking head on CNBC quoted a tweet re the Norwedian's pants: yowsers on those trousers.
Posted by: Retread at February 11, 2014 03:29 PM (cHwk5)
Googled Norwegian curling pants. This is clearly psyops. It's saying "yeah, it's a full 10". Who else would wear pants like these?"
Posted by: pep at February 11, 2014 03:29 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Sphynx at February 11, 2014 03:29 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 03:29 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 03:29 PM (3WKNG)
well except for holder, irs , osha, atf, and true the vote.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2014 03:30 PM (nqBYe)
As Ace points out...only 28 Republicans voted for this.
Haven't seen a list of who those 28 are, but I'm guessing that they weren't the Tea Party reps.
So the Tea Party reps held the line and *didn't* vote to increase the Debt.
We just don't have enough of them there yet.
Posted by: wheatie at February 11, 2014 03:31 PM (eCZwh)
Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2014 03:31 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Still no sign of sig at February 11, 2014 03:31 PM (q177U)
No word if the manure came from Nancy Pelosi's stall.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 03:31 PM (4w7wl)
BEER!
and backup valurite. Posted by: freaked
Strategy is for amateurs. Logistics, my friend. Already well stocked.
Posted by: pep at February 11, 2014 03:31 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Juan McLame at February 11, 2014 03:31 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Lauren at February 11, 2014 03:31 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:32 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 11, 2014 03:32 PM (60Vyp)
Right. Once we get both houses and the presidency it'll be just like 2000-2006 and we'll never raise the debt ceiling.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 03:32 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 11, 2014 03:33 PM (GEICT)
We have to keep printing money so that the plebes can buy stuff from other countries so they can have money to re-lend back to us so we can buy more of their slave made stuff so they can have more money to lend to us so we can buy more of their stuff. In return they keep the interest low on our money that they lent us. This circular motion can last forever.
until it stops.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2014 03:33 PM (n0DEs)
Like saaay Bitcoins?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 11, 2014 07:24 PM (60Vyp)
Quatloos
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2014 03:34 PM (reoHU)
Posted by: wheatie at February 11, 2014 07:31 PM (eCZwh)<<<
Mark Levin read the list. Lots of committee chairs (Issa, Rogers (?)the budget cmte guy, etc). Idiots like Pete King. A laundry list of pathetic.
Posted by: Hate Miser at February 11, 2014 03:34 PM (vbK1S)
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 03:34 PM (QupBk)
He said that; I shit you not.
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 07:32 PM (OA6Aw)
Yeah, because under Barky, we're learning to surrender just like the French. As proof, I cite the Speaker of the House.
Posted by: Retread at February 11, 2014 03:34 PM (cHwk5)
We've already passed a point of no return on the budget and the deficit. The numbers are just too far out of whack. Am I wrong?
So long as the Fed has us on a QE morphine drip, the general consensus of Americans is to accept our new sucky normal. But the new sucky normal is fiscally unsustainable.
So what next?
Obama is a smart guy but he has serious gaps in his understanding of how finance works. It's like physics for poets -- no numbers on the exam.
So I can't figure out whether (A) he thinks creating a new regime of entitlements for those making less than $50,000 is a way to achieve reparations for slavery and hence social justice, or (B) he wants a Cloward-Piven end game. If he thinks it's both, then he's likely to be sadly mistaken as his core constituents will likely be hurt the most by Cloward-Piven.
This is the politics of New York City during the 1970s writ large, but with the complication of the Fed printing press running full speed.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2014 03:34 PM (EPEqj)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 03:35 PM (3WKNG)
I suspect that if they needed 40, they'd get 40. If they needed 10, they'd get 10.
I'm guessing the safest guys voted for it and a lot of guys got 'permission' to vote no.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 03:35 PM (uhAkr)
How about wining some elections. There's a reason we have those ya know.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 07:29 PM (g1DWB)
Once we win the House, we'll have the upper hand on all budget issues!
Posted by: mugiwara, circa 2010 (not yet entirely disillusioned) at February 11, 2014 03:36 PM (3a584)
Posted by: Beagle at February 11, 2014 03:36 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:36 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 11, 2014 03:36 PM (2hTlI)
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 03:36 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Daily Reminder Guy at February 11, 2014 03:37 PM (6j8ke)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 07:29 PM (3WKNG)
Not me.
If it has an R or a D next to it, not voting.
And to the "oh, that just helps them!" crowd: what's it going to get, worse? hahahhahahaha! fuck off.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:37 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 03:37 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Carol at February 11, 2014 03:38 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: I am not Scott Adams at February 11, 2014 03:38 PM (ecN6u)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 11, 2014 03:38 PM (P6QsQ)
We might as well have Pelosi as Speaker.
Only because the Republican base doesn't understand we need to give the Democrats everything they want.
Or the shutdown makes us have to do this.
Or Todd Akin.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 11, 2014 03:39 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 03:39 PM (QupBk)
We Socialist Now. Speak for yourself, I expect to be denounced as a kulak before too much longer.
Posted by: Cato at February 11, 2014 03:39 PM (OdVTN)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 03:39 PM (3WKNG)
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2014 03:40 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:40 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 03:41 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:41 PM (OA6Aw)
hell they didn't even give us a courtesy lie job to make us feel all better.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2014 03:41 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:43 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 11, 2014 03:43 PM (5xmd7)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 03:43 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 11, 2014 03:43 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Regular Guy at February 11, 2014 03:43 PM (N3Al8)
@237. Being realistic. These feckless sellouts don't have a chance of winning dog catcher, let alone Federal office.
We don't need a third party, we need a second party!
Posted by: Cato at February 11, 2014 03:43 PM (OdVTN)
Posted by: Kim Kardashian at February 11, 2014 03:44 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Carol at February 11, 2014 03:44 PM (z4WKX)
If it was you, you were right.
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 07:40 PM (OA6Aw)
Admittedly, didn't read the book, but kinda liked the movie. little cheezy, but liked the ending.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:44 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:44 PM (OA6Aw)
The Republican-led House passed a bill with a D majority. We might as well have Pelosi as Speaker.
Posted by: Soothsayer
Only 28 Rs out of 221 yeas.
Why, that's less that 13%. Hardly counts. Not unlike the acceptable amount of rat fleeces in your bologna.
Not unlike at all.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 11, 2014 03:45 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 11, 2014 03:45 PM (5xmd7)
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 03:46 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Beagle at February 11, 2014 03:46 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2014 03:46 PM (kPiYr)
Posted by: Carol at February 11, 2014 03:46 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Kim Kardashian at February 11, 2014 03:47 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 03:47 PM (3WKNG)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:47 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 03:47 PM (QupBk)
So the Tea Party reps held the line and *didn't* vote to increase the Debt.
We just don't have enough of them there yet.
And yet, Boehner retains his speakership
Posted by: Methos at February 11, 2014 03:47 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Kim Kardashian at February 11, 2014 03:48 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: mugiwara at February 11, 2014 03:48 PM (3a584)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 03:49 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: grammie winger at February 11, 2014 03:49 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Dave S. at February 11, 2014 03:50 PM (UvR6d)
Posted by: Kim Kardashian at February 11, 2014 03:50 PM (RJMhd)
Get my point?
Posted by: John Boehner
Sir, there is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder.
Posted by: mister spock talking to boehner at February 11, 2014 03:51 PM (/QAZd)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 07:43 PM (g1DWB)
yes. And no.
When you're in the minority you learn to outsmart your opponents, not give in to them.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:51 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 03:51 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Huggy at February 11, 2014 03:52 PM (4WPfa)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 03:52 PM (3WKNG)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:52 PM (OA6Aw)
I don't think anyone wants Boehner's job.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 11, 2014 07:49 PM (P6QsQ)
I'd take it.
And hell would follow with me.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:52 PM (x3YFz)
Detailed roll call on the vote:
http://tinyurl.com/n4jva7e
The R ayes were Boehner and his senior henchmen, his handpicked committee chairmen, rinos and retiring.
And by coincidence juuuuust enough of them to get over 218.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 11, 2014 03:52 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 03:53 PM (g1DWB)
http://tinyurl.com/n2ufch9 (NPR)
"What they're finding, Matthews says, is a bit surprising: 'We don't find any difference at all. ... We see no effect of the store on fruit and vegetable consumption.'"
Surprising! Unexpected!
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 11, 2014 03:54 PM (KQp38)
Posted by: Beagle at February 11, 2014 03:54 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 03:54 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 03:54 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: mugiwara at February 11, 2014 03:54 PM (3a584)
Posted by: bour3 at February 11, 2014 03:54 PM (5x3+2)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 03:55 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Kim Kardashian at February 11, 2014 03:55 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Cato at February 11, 2014 03:56 PM (OdVTN)
You DARE bring up "stopping amnesty" as a Republican achievement? You DARE?
Forget it , he's rolling.
Posted by: Boon at February 11, 2014 03:56 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 03:56 PM (nzKvP)
I'd replace the rostrum with a throne of skulls.
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 07:54 PM (QupBk)
I would gladly vote for you and your throne of skulls if you vote for me and my throne of blades.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:56 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Beagle at February 11, 2014 03:57 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 03:57 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 03:57 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 03:57 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Cato at February 11, 2014 07:56 PM (OdVTN)
The social "events" in DC would be far more entertaining.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:57 PM (x3YFz)
At least I got peanut butter out of the deal.
Posted by: toby the beagle at February 11, 2014 03:58 PM (/QAZd)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 11, 2014 03:58 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Kim Kardashian at February 11, 2014 03:59 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 11, 2014 03:59 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 04:00 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 11, 2014 07:58 PM (0HooB)
The horse would be infinitely more attractive and intelligent than the majority of congressional staff.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:00 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 04:00 PM (3WKNG)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 11, 2014 04:00 PM (HVff2)
Maybe the Horde needs to run for Congress. We certainly couldn't do any worse, and I think it'd be a pay raise for most of us.
Posted by: Cato
Here in California the filing fee for U.S. Representative is $1,740. But you can submit 60 signatures in lieu.
Hmmmm.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 11, 2014 04:00 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: seamrog at February 11, 2014 04:01 PM (1qRIh)
Posted by: Regular Guy at February 11, 2014 04:01 PM (N3Al8)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:01 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 04:01 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Carol at February 11, 2014 04:01 PM (z4WKX)
And by coincidence juuuuust enough of them to get over 218.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 11, 2014 07:52 PM (kdS6q)
---------------------------------------------
Most of the repubs were (surprise!) from the east or west coasts, or from union states. Like I said upthread; same shit, different day.
Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2014 04:01 PM (kPiYr)
Posted by: joffrey baratheon at February 11, 2014 04:02 PM (/QAZd)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:02 PM (X3GkB)
Someone's playing defense?
I'm trying to see it.
Not having much luck.
Posted by: Methos at February 11, 2014 04:03 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: RINO Overlordz at February 11, 2014 04:03 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Director Of Omni Morale at February 11, 2014 04:03 PM (R6JT1)
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 07:57 PM (x3YFz)
No toaster would be safe.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2014 04:03 PM (8ZskC)
Because they work.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2014 04:03 PM (reoHU)
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My wife is pretty much dead set on moving to EP later this year. . . .Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:04 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 11, 2014 04:04 PM (Q6pxP)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 11, 2014 04:05 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 04:05 PM (i1Jb/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 04:05 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 04:05 PM (6/+vz)
So tell me about this outsmarting. What exactly would you have done? I hear a lot of venting but not one real idea of how you were going to get Obama and Reid to accept a cut in the debt ceiling.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, inside or outside of government has actually come up with a plan. Sure its easy to lay this all at Boehner's feet but show where anyone has a real solution and I'll be all for it.
Screaming fight, fight, fight is not a solution.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 08:00 PM (g1DWB)
First, isn't politics, and being good at it, supposed to be the job of the Speaker? Well, he gets a solid "F"
Second, why is Ted Cruz so popular? (rhetorical question)
Third, the priority, as it exists today, in the House, is NOT the well being of our republic but the well being of the current office holders' careers. This is morally despicable.
Fourth, the rebumblicans control 1/3 of the govt, but it's the part that holds the purse strings. Leverage that, duh.
Need I go on?
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:05 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:05 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:06 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: bergerbilder at February 11, 2014 04:06 PM (8MjqI)
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:06 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:07 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 04:07 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 11, 2014 04:07 PM (5xmd7)
Posted by: Drunk GOP Whores curled up in a puddle of their own urine at February 11, 2014 04:07 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:08 PM (X3GkB)
And this is leadership.... how, JackStraw?
Making every single person in the republic, left, right and center, think you're a total idiot is useful, how? Again?
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:09 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 11, 2014 04:09 PM (5xmd7)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 11, 2014 04:09 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 04:09 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:09 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 11, 2014 04:10 PM (KgN8K)
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 04:10 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 04:11 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:11 PM (8lmkt)
I read somewhere that he wouldn't be allowed to re-enter the country in his current skeevy, infectious condition. Wrong?
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:12 PM (8lmkt)
In Mother Russia, pillow bites you!
Posted by: Sochi resident forced to give up pillow at February 11, 2014 04:12 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: Cumberland University at February 11, 2014 04:12 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Vlad Putin at February 11, 2014 04:13 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:13 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 04:13 PM (i1Jb/)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 04:13 PM (OA6Aw)
http://tinyurl.com/mjfgquc
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 07:24 PM (4w7wl)
Absofreakinglutely!! Diners at 2 AM and being able to order anything on the menu, and then some!
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at February 11, 2014 04:13 PM (tAoev)
Posted by: conflate at February 11, 2014 04:14 PM (R6JT1)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 08:13 PM (TE35l)
In Cacafornia, I might as well have been doing that all these years. It's hopeless. It won't even burn . . .
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:14 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Jean at February 11, 2014 04:14 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:14 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 11, 2014 04:15 PM (eUipI)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 11, 2014 04:15 PM (45N4D)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 11, 2014 04:16 PM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: ginaswo at February 11, 2014 04:16 PM (I3Aay)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:16 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 04:16 PM (6/+vz)
I read somewhere that he wouldn't be allowed to re-enter the country in his current skeevy, infectious condition.
Don't get my hopes up like that.
Posted by: Retread at February 11, 2014 04:16 PM (cHwk5)
Glad we hired him to be the Accountant of our govt. Purse strings the House is supposed to control.Fucking don't count you duplicitous bitch.
And on Reid thanking him what Reid really said was "Thank you for allowing us to strap the next generations with a crushing debt."
Posted by: The Hickster at February 11, 2014 04:17 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 04:17 PM (nzKvP)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 04:18 PM (i1Jb/)
In a Great Pumpkin kind of way.
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 08:11 PM (JdEZJ)
I should have said "useless" instead of "idiot" but if you put the two together you get: "useful idiot."
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:18 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Y-not #TeamCollie at February 11, 2014 04:18 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 04:18 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 04:19 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 04:19 PM (i1Jb/)
Here's jack being wrong and oblivious again. They HAVE the majority in the House and have done precisely nothing but piss off the base and get bad press. They're worse than just failures.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 11, 2014 04:19 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 04:19 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 08:18 PM (i1Jb/)
Given Costas' tendency to place his head up his ass, this is quite likely.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:19 PM (x3YFz)
It's sure that Russia doesn't want him back. He'll have to go to one of those wonderful pinko clinics in Cuba.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 11, 2014 04:20 PM (KQp38)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:21 PM (X3GkB)
Here's jack being wrong and oblivious again. They HAVE the majority in the House and have done precisely nothing but piss off the base and get bad press. They're worse than just failures.
Posted by: DaveA at February 11, 2014 08:19 PM (DL2i+)
Indeed.
In our district, we've reelected the same guy for several terms. And it's head + pike time.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:21 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Johnny Boy Costas at February 11, 2014 04:21 PM (R6JT1)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:21 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 04:21 PM (IXrOn)
http://tinyurl.com/mjfgquc
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 07:24 PM (4w7wl)
I was a Jersey girl (briefly) in the early 70s and that article is spot on!! It was a great place to live (north) except for that lunatic I married.
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:22 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 04:22 PM (OA6Aw)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 11, 2014 04:22 PM (45N4D)
makes sense
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 08:21 PM (IXrOn)
I don't think ol' Bob is gonna come in through the Rio Grande and Arizona, lol!
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:23 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: toby928© at February 11, 2014 04:24 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 04:24 PM (6/+vz)
Clearly evident that the "hill to die on" for the Pubs is that there IS no hill to die on.
A bit distressing.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 11, 2014 04:24 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:24 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Carol at February 11, 2014 04:24 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 11, 2014 04:25 PM (5xmd7)
Posted by: kimoloka at February 11, 2014 08:21 PM (AB/W0)
Technically we don't anymore. Now we just have a date where it magically reappears and we'll have to vote it away again lest we risk the full faith and credit of the US, which allegedly still retains some sort of positive value.
Posted by: mugiwara at February 11, 2014 04:25 PM (3a584)
Posted by: Y-not #TeamCollie at February 11, 2014 04:26 PM (zDsvJ)
Russia is flooded with useless counterfeit medications courtesy of the Chinese and courtesy of Russia's endemic corruption.
If you want something with a reasonable guarantee of curative effect, you had better have it couriered in from abroad.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 11, 2014 04:27 PM (gqT4g)
Unresponsive. You're expecting Boehner to pull a miracle not be a good politician.
**** No. I'm expecting him to be a good politician and he's done exactly zero. Nada. Nothing except cave.
>>Second, why is Ted Cruz so popular? (rhetorical question)
News flash. He is only popular with a portion of the country. He is also widely mocked and disliked. And his filibuster not only didn't accomplish anything positive, it hurt Republicans.
**** aside from your snark, he's wildly popular. Where the fuck do you live?
>>Third, the priority, as it exists today, in the House, is NOT the well being of our republic but the well being of the current office holders' careers. This is morally despicable.
Wut? Just ranting the same thing over and over again without giving any idea of how they should accomplish what you want doesn't mean anything. I'll keep asking until you answer, how do you expect them to get Reid and Obama to move on Republican issues? They House has voted to repeal Obamacare over 40 times. Reid won't touch it and Obama won't sign it. Now what?
***** Want the idea? Defund. I know the house has pushed repeal after repeal that will not come to vote in the senate. Fully aware of that. So. Time for 41. 42. 43. 44. 45. Make those democrats vote. Crush the house dems. Are you even paying attention?
>>Fourth, the rebumblicans control 1/3 of the govt, but it's the part that holds the purse strings. Leverage that, duh.
See Cruz, filibuster. Boehner made that possible. And?
**** nothing to respond to here... you're just wandering.
>>Need I go on?
You don't need to but you can if you'd like.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 08:18 PM (g1DWB)
So... I take it you're happy with the current leadership? Either that or you're complicit or complacent? Pick one.
Ring that bell. place your helmet in line.
/laugh
as if you'd even get that far.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:27 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 04:28 PM (IXrOn)
would you have done?<<<<
Pass a more or less balanced budget and then send the reps home to defend themselves in their districts and let Barry and Harry stew until they come up with a counter offer.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 11, 2014 04:28 PM (P/gm7)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 04:28 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 08:24 PM (X3GkB)
that is, like, the sweetest thing ever, logprof!! unless, of course, Y-not does not forgive you, in which case, you are fucked. 
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:28 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Y-not #TeamCollie at February 11, 2014 04:29 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: TruCon, TeaParty Kitteh at February 11, 2014 04:29 PM (Cuj/g)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:29 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Y-not #TeamCollie at February 11, 2014 04:29 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 04:30 PM (g1DWB)
Heh
Posted by: Officer Paddy O'Irony [/i] [/b] at February 11, 2014 04:30 PM (5ikDv)
Maybe he didn't make the cut on the single-payer Putincare matrix.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 11, 2014 04:31 PM (KQp38)
Vladi-claps!!!! {I'm thinking of adopting the "Putin applause" . . . slow claps, inscrutable side-eye and a hint of a sneer on the lips -- so awesome!}
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:31 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:32 PM (TE35l)
Allahpundit also referred in the same piece to Peter King, who simply cannot open his mouth without loudly and rudely rubbishing conservatives, as being a "centrist".
Which ought to tell you a whole lot about where Allahpundit actually comes down on the ideological spectrum.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 11, 2014 04:32 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 11, 2014 04:32 PM (5xmd7)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 08:24 PM (X3GkB)
that is, like, the sweetest thing ever, logprof!! unless, of course, Y-not does not forgive you, in which case, you are fucked.
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 08:28 PM (8lmkt)
Awww.... the 'ettes are the sweetest most wonderfully dangerous creatures on the planet. You just have to be on your toes.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:32 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Y-not #TeamCollie at February 11, 2014 04:33 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 04:33 PM (z8EVP)
>>Seriously. This fucking blog doesn't have an Ignore feature - so I'm just skipping your stupid shit. Permanently. Learn math.
this is like the time, many years ago, that my sister called me to tell me she was not speaking to me anymore. i was all, you're speaking to me now, ya goof!
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:33 PM (8lmkt)
I know. Let's throw away a senate seat by voting for Grimes to send a message to the RINO establishment.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane
You know, if you take your "Brown '12" t shirt and put a post-it with a "14" over the number, you won't have to buy a new one.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 11, 2014 04:34 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:34 PM (TE35l)
He has to do something when he is not fucking up investigations.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 11, 2014 04:35 PM (P/gm7)
Posted by: Born Free at February 11, 2014 04:36 PM (xL8Hf)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 04:36 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:38 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Y-not #TeamCollie at February 11, 2014 04:38 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: jeffrey pelt at February 11, 2014 04:39 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2014 04:39 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 11, 2014 04:39 PM (P/gm7)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 11, 2014 04:39 PM (v8wYt)
Anyone else remember how Boehner was promised by Obama that Obama was ready to give him one for one spending cuts in exchange for tax hikes?
And how Boehner then went up to the White House, and put a couple of hundred billion dollars in tax hike proposals on the table, and said, "What do I get for that?"
And how Obama smirked at him and said, "You get nothing. I get that for free."
It should really tell you something that:
(a) Boehner did not simply just excuse himself and leave at that point, and
(b) That the GOP did not instantly sack and replace Boehner once they became aware of how badly he had been taken to the cleaners in the "negotiations" with Obama.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 11, 2014 04:40 PM (gqT4g)
yeah, I guess so, guy. i had high hopes for him, though. so sick and tired of being sick and tired of this shit.
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:40 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 04:40 PM (z8EVP)
Posted by: George Washington at February 11, 2014 04:41 PM (p3oEl)
Posted by: ontherocks at February 11, 2014 04:41 PM (pmmZd)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:41 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:42 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 11, 2014 04:42 PM (bCEmE)
Who does the Left hate the most? Hands down, its the Tea Party. And I have not seen such unfounded vitriolic hatred like this, such demonism of people they don't even know - if it were socially acceptable, they would round up the Tea Party and send them to work camps.
Boehner needs to go. The Left likes him more than the Tea Party. Because he doesn't fight back.
Posted by: Fen at February 11, 2014 04:44 PM (a422o)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 11, 2014 04:44 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: Y-not #TeamCollie at February 11, 2014 04:44 PM (zDsvJ)
not on here yet, but Costas was making me queasy just looking at him. plus, the very last thing you want with an eye infection is bright light so, genius to go on camera.
just glad i don't have to look at that disgusting shit any more.Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:44 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 11, 2014 04:45 PM (tkL/E)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 11, 2014 04:45 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 04:45 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Tami at February 11, 2014 08:42 PM (bCEmE)
totally legit.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:45 PM (x3YFz)
Oh, Tami, you just afforded me a hearty guffaw with that!!!! Vladi-claps!!!!
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:45 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:46 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: garrett at February 11, 2014 04:46 PM (z8EVP)
Posted by: Y-not #TeamCollie at February 11, 2014 04:46 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:46 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: ontherocks at February 11, 2014 04:46 PM (pmmZd)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 11, 2014 08:44 PM (JQuNB)
Meryl Streep ugly.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:46 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Y-not #TeamCollie at February 11, 2014 04:48 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:49 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 11, 2014 04:49 PM (P/gm7)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 08:46 PM (TE35l)
Oh, look at you and your niceness. Heartening, really.
Me? 90%
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:50 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: shredded chi at February 11, 2014 04:51 PM (Sm2VJ)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 04:51 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:52 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: ontherocks at February 11, 2014 04:52 PM (pmmZd)
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2014 08:26 PM (nqBYe)
He could have some type of resistant Russian staph, perhaps bioweaponized (I, of course, am making this up...however, bio-terrorism scares me much more than le radioactive missile that, I hope, brings me instant rapture). Or, could be viral, in which case the antibiotic ain't going to help More scary would be behind door number three: chlamydia pink eye from Middle East and Africa! I assume he got it from either having a cold or leaving his contact lenses in too long (which could, by George, be an amoeba! and cleaning with the yellow danger water). I would imagine anyone coming in contact with him runs and does not shake his hand.
Whatever he has, gross. As much as I make fun of him I do hope he gets better.
I still want to know where Dick Button is this Olympics.
This concludes all I hope to know of pink eye. I had it as a young child. Woke up with both eyes crusted shut and screamed that I was blind! Eleventy!!11!! Haven't, thank you Lord, had it since.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 11, 2014 04:52 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:53 PM (X3GkB)
The one that galls me most is the IRS deal. The dems were running scared--Obama was on TV denouncing the IRS for fuck's sake--and instead of striking while the donks were reeling and collecting some scalps, well, Issa will hold some hearings and get to the bottom of it. A year later and Obama is out smiling about there not being a smidgen of corruption at the IRS.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 11, 2014 04:54 PM (P/gm7)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 04:54 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: shredded chi at February 11, 2014 08:51 PM (Sm2VJ)
wait... this sounds like a test and I soooo did not study.
False.
wait....
B.
No... Del cross E = (partial) db/dt
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:54 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 04:54 PM (3WKNG)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 04:55 PM (6/+vz)
yeah, i don't know what's up with that. it seems like he's had 'em in his cross-hairs more than once and then, bupkes! good thing i kind of enjoy being all rage-y and shit. cause i am not sure our kind will have any alternatives, at least in my lifetime.
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:56 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 11, 2014 04:56 PM (5xmd7)
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 04:58 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 04:58 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Decaf at February 11, 2014 08:54 PM (3WKNG)
If you are a Quisling House Speaker, it is obvious that any resistance to the will of the other side of the aisle is negative!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2014 04:58 PM (o3MSL)
Nothing so far.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 08:51 PM (g1DWB)
I gave alternatives. The "nothing so far" exit doesn't work.
If you could edit here, I'd recommend "nothing I've read so far."
I think we agree in principle but disagree on details. Devil's in the details.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:59 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Huggy at February 11, 2014 05:02 PM (4WPfa)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 05:03 PM (TE35l)
Keep doing that and someone shows up to your house with a baseball bat and you end up in the ER.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 05:04 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 05:04 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 09:03 PM (TE35l)
Brother, he's never going to get it.
Leave him behind.
Dead weight.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 05:06 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: seamrog at February 11, 2014 05:06 PM (1qRIh)
Someone above said something about "Simple MATH".
I expect Boehner's done the math too. And in his case the Simple MATH is telling him that he's not going to win.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 11, 2014 05:07 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 09:04 PM (X3GkB)
all well and good . . .until it puts somebody's eye out!! 
Posted by: Bob C at February 11, 2014 05:07 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: GOP at February 11, 2014 05:07 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 05:07 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 11, 2014 05:07 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 05:08 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 11, 2014 05:09 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 11, 2014 05:10 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 11, 2014 05:10 PM (d3U8C)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 05:11 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 05:11 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 05:11 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 05:12 PM (g1DWB)
Imagine being in our nation’s capital, surrounded by thousands of likeminded conservatives, watching your favorite conservative leaders speak— like Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Marco Rubio, Governor Bobby Jindal and Congressman Paul Ryan.
The Republican National Committee wants to make that a reality.
The RNC is flying one lucky winner to Washington, D.C., to attend the Conservative Political Action Conference from March 6-8.
Yeah, it's a $6 lottery ticket and if I win (which I won't - the drawing will be rigged) I get to watch Rubio and Ryan speak. I won't, of course, get to make them listen, which is the actual job of an elected representative.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 11, 2014 05:12 PM (30eLQ)
It's always the _ next_ hill that they propose to die on.
Swearsies!
But of course having arrived at the next hill, that immediately becomes the current hill. Which I'm sure we all can agree is not the "next hill" any longer, by definition.
Hark! Lo! Off in the distance! It's the next next hill.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 11, 2014 05:12 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 06:49 PM (IXrOn)
It may be yuan to you, but it's me-an to me.
Posted by: The Greenback at February 11, 2014 05:13 PM (pFqpP)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 05:14 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: The Hickster at February 11, 2014 05:14 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 05:15 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 05:16 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Carol at February 11, 2014 05:16 PM (z4WKX)
I kind of feel like a Lefty must have felt during Bush's presidency--OMG, they're going to get me! The difference is that the Lefty's feelings were egotistical, solipsistic fantasy, while mine are reactions to reality.
Posted by: Null at February 11, 2014 05:17 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 11, 2014 05:17 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 11, 2014 05:18 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: mugiwara at February 11, 2014 05:18 PM (3a584)
Posted by: logprof at February 11, 2014 05:18 PM (X3GkB)
Why tried the shutdown thing last fall and it was a disaster.
*** how was that a "disaster?" Define that for me, please. Aside from the asshole park rangers with hands on their revolvers preventing tourists from photographing Mt Rushmore.
I don't disagree that this is a shitty deal and I wish there was a solution that would actually work but nobody has one. Not just here but nowhere.
*** No one here is paid to be a political adviser. However, I'll start with spend less than you take from the citizens and go from there.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 09:12 PM (g1DWB)
Currently, I'm working on a 4-dimensional expansion of Maxwell's equations to account for the imaginary number results using a 6x6x6 matrix. That is rocket surgery.
This shit.
Ain't.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 05:18 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: --- at February 11, 2014 05:18 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 05:18 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 11, 2014 05:19 PM (7mQyC)
Posted by: Y-not #TeamCollie at February 11, 2014 05:19 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: --- at February 11, 2014 09:18 PM (MMC8r)
that is so racist . . .
Posted by: Peaches at February 11, 2014 05:20 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 05:20 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 11, 2014 05:21 PM (5zi0K)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 11, 2014 09:07 PM (30eLQ)
Just because you aren't going to win, isn't reason enough to lose ignominiously!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2014 05:22 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 05:22 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 11, 2014 05:22 PM (At8tV)
He drives me CRaaaaazzzyyyy!!
Its only Juan, Pretty Bohner
BONER, WHAT YA TRYIN TO DO!?!
Posted by: Billy F'n Gibbions at February 11, 2014 05:23 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: Carol at February 11, 2014 05:23 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Shoey at February 11, 2014 05:23 PM (vA94g)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 05:23 PM (6/+vz)
Obviously, you aren't ready for 11-dimensional political chess!
Posted by: J Boner, Esq at February 11, 2014 05:24 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: --- at February 11, 2014 09:18 PM (MMC8r)
THERE ISN'T A SMIDGEN OF CORRUPTION AT THE IRS
Posted by: so sayeth Barack at February 11, 2014 05:24 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 11, 2014 05:24 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: sven10077 at February 11, 2014 05:25 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 11, 2014 09:21 PM (5zi0K)
I'm writing in Zombie Chesty
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 05:25 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 05:26 PM (6/+vz)
Ace wrote, "As AllahPundit notes, the Republicans voting for the debt ceiling hike are either leadership, or blue-state Representatives who have to answer to blue-state constituents, or people who are, conveniently, about to retire."
Leadership, right. Leadership in the way Quisling was a leader, the way Petain was a leader: men quailing in fear and awe at the strength of their enemies, accepting defeat as inevitable and accommodation as the only viable solution.
True enough, the American Left is galvanized and formidable, in control of the media and the universities and the federal government and--now--over one-sixth of the US economy, and those gutless, unprincipled Country Club Republican bastards are seeking an accommodation.
Forget party unity for the sake of a midterm election victory. What kind of victory will it be if we get nothing but more Quisling-like Boehners and Petain-like McConnells in the House and Senate? Instead, we should focus on either forcing the GOP to assume its proper role as an opposition party or focus on splitting off and forming a new party, one with the word 'freedom' in its name somewhere.
In the end, that's what this is about. Either we continue as a free people or we become de facto serfs in an authoritarian socialist superstate. There is no middle ground. There can be no accommodation with these people.
Posted by: troyriser at February 11, 2014 05:26 PM (ptcFO)
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 11, 2014 05:27 PM (qeF38)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/qzkaodt
Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2014 05:27 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: Shoey at February 11, 2014 05:28 PM (vA94g)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 11, 2014 05:28 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 05:31 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: seamrog at February 11, 2014 05:31 PM (1qRIh)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 11, 2014 05:32 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 05:32 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 11, 2014 05:32 PM (P/gm7)
Horse Shit
the HoR controls the purse. don't pass a limit, don't pass anything but a budget.
if that asshole in the Oval Orfice and Harry Reid want to shut down the government, let them.
don't do a damn thing until they break, even if the country is in flames. fuck them, because they want to destroy us anyway.
let the motherfucker burn, just make sure everything burns, not just who the left wants to get rid of. make their base pay a price, and maybe the ones that survive might wake the hell up.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2014 05:32 PM (q+fqH)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 11, 2014 05:35 PM (7mQyC)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 11, 2014 05:37 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: mugiwara at February 11, 2014 05:37 PM (3a584)
Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2014 05:39 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 05:40 PM (g1DWB)
Holy. Shit. The delusion just plain fucking hurts.
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 11, 2014 05:43 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2014 05:43 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 11, 2014 05:44 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2014 09:39 PM (JBggj)
I boxed amateur when I was young. 'He'll get tired eventually' was a happy thought on those occasions when I was getting pounded. Happy thoughts have little effect on outcome.
Posted by: troyriser at February 11, 2014 05:45 PM (ptcFO)
=====
No, it wasn't a dumb strategy in the larger sense that we are in an argument over big ideas. We must stay IN the fight, even though at times nothing much seems accomplished. Our arguments in defense of basic principles are sound, reasonable, and achievable. The current president's programs have been specious, slipshod, harmful to our constitutional government, and abject failures. The current administration feels the ground shifting beneath their feet and they don't like it one bit. If they can't win the argument, they'll go gunning for the messengers. That won't work, either.
Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2014 05:46 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: Shoey at February 11, 2014 05:47 PM (vA94g)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 11, 2014 05:50 PM (7mQyC)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 11, 2014 05:51 PM (ojnk6)
=========
While he was lying on the operating table, Ronald Reagan cracked jokes with the surgeons frantically trying to save his life. There's nothing wrong with having happy thoughts if one is committed to the good fight.
Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2014 05:53 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: Shoey at February 11, 2014 05:53 PM (vA94g)
Posted by: Jen at February 11, 2014 05:53 PM (o985y)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 07:43 PM (g1DWB)
First, the R's control the house. Second, when playing defense there are good ways to play and bad ways. For the former, see Fabius Maximus; for the latter see John Boehner.
Posted by: jbarntt at February 11, 2014 05:56 PM (UNFot)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 11, 2014 06:09 PM (7mQyC)
Posted by: Boot. Stomping. at February 11, 2014 06:15 PM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 11, 2014 06:16 PM (mD1Ay)
Posted by: charkins at February 11, 2014 06:20 PM (m6NkE)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 09:40 PM (g1DWB)
I agree. I only mention this to assure you that you are not alone, although I do not have your patience to endure the slings and arrows of outrageous "analysis" that passes for "common wisdom" here.
Posted by: CQD at February 11, 2014 06:49 PM (d6iMX)
Posted by: Cackfinger at February 11, 2014 07:27 PM (OsCtd)
Posted by: Cackfinger at February 11, 2014 07:31 PM (OsCtd)
He's not OK with it. He's resigned to the Leadership making the best worst-choice.
No one is denying that the leadership sucks, but some of us are sick to death of True Conservatives who are deeply deluded about the reality of American politics.
Posted by: Shoot Me at February 11, 2014 07:59 PM (qiXMt)
Posted by: CQD at February 11, 2014 10:49 PM (d6iMX)
Are you as pompous and condescending in real life as you seem in your posts? I bet they love you at parties.
Posted by: troyriser at February 11, 2014 08:11 PM (ptcFO)
Posted by: Shoot Me at February 11, 2014 11:59 PM (qiXMt)
The reality is that these Marxist weasels will succeed in their goal if Republican leaders keep thinking they're dealing with traditional Democrats and not hardcore, old-school ideologues. These soft Country Club Republican types are the Whigs of 1852, waiting for the pendulum to swing back around (which it won't) and intent upon maintaining a status quo that no longer exists. President Obama said he would transform the country, and he is. Who's there to stop him? It sure as hell isn't current GOP leadership.
Posted by: troyriser at February 11, 2014 08:40 PM (ptcFO)
Posted by: prescient11 at February 12, 2014 04:52 AM (6c5YU)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 12, 2014 05:37 AM (ELNeo)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 12, 2014 05:41 AM (ELNeo)
Giving the Ocrats more money to make an even bigger mess of things only serves to provide the LOSERship with more crony campaign bucks to first fight the Tea Party, and then perhaps take out a few Ocrats.
Whether their effort is enough to take over the Senate may not be a priority or even a goal. The Mudfarmer GOP LOSERship goal is pretty much totally focused upon helping crony donor, the rest of the nation can suck on rocks... Being in an actual leadership position may be contrary to the GOPs leaderships standard operating procedure -- as Boehner's actions exhibits so well.
Posted by: Seipherd at February 12, 2014 07:11 AM (AortR)
Posted by: Seipherd at February 12, 2014 07:57 AM (AortR)
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