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January 09, 2014

Slow News day Editorial: Sanctifying Satire. [krakatoa]
— Open Blogger

As Ace reminded us some time ago, there comes a time to put away childish things... Adults should not accept that elected officials inadvertently diminish the office they hold, much less set out to do so consciously.

Winning an elected office used to require and reward someone with a great sense of sober responsibility befitting the job of representing the various values of their entire region. One did not need to necessarily share their values, but at least one would accept or profess to accept the seriousness with which those values were held.

Unfortunately, the electorate we live among appears to be dominated by people who wish to have their own failures and silly foibles excused or ratified by, if not society at large, then at least its elected officials.

So we get a buffoon with a colander on his head taking the oath of office, and vapid arguments that what began as a satire among disaffected individuals for whom sarcasm is currency should now be on equal footing with religions that have thousands of years of history, philosophy, and values.

And we get his supporters who play at real religion, poking fun at its teachings, customs and adherents by engaging in crude caricatures of that they mock with all the gusto of a true believer.

They point at the "wingers" who swear on their bibles and say "Oh how childish you all are."

But one can't help but question the intellectual underpinnings and maturity of a group of people that created a religion in order to satirize the "crutch" of organized religion they claim to not need, only to fervently invest themselves in all the rituals they bastardize to their own taste. One can't help but note in their flight from spirituality, they seem to crave something yet to fill that void, and that something is spirituality, however ridiculous its symbols.

Who is really being childish here?

I would submit that certain common societal symbols, regardless of their faith, lend to a shared sense of trust in their deeper meanings, and I would ask:

Is it more mature to put your hand on a bible you do not believe in and swear an oath to represent all the people?

Or is it more mature to imply "Your silly conventions do not constrain me", mock the religion of probably a majority of your electorate, and swear an oath under a symbol of satire?

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1 1st

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 09, 2014 11:57 AM (q+fqH)

2 Fuck that hipster.

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 11:58 AM (MMC8r)

3 okay, that's two in just a few days after years of never being around for the start of a thread...

i smell a trap. %-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 09, 2014 11:58 AM (q+fqH)

4 I could not imagine how outraged I would be if I voted for that idiot

Posted by: Cicero skip at January 09, 2014 11:58 AM (tBpWR)

5 Colander? Looks like his bedpan to me.

Posted by: wth at January 09, 2014 11:59 AM (wAQA5)

6 we are supposed to take this guy seriously?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at January 09, 2014 11:59 AM (8v/hq)

7 An oath is not legal unless you raise your hand and wear a hard hat.

Posted by: dantesed at January 09, 2014 11:59 AM (88xKn)

8 Top Men

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 09, 2014 12:00 PM (z+4T3)

9 Hi, I'm your new representative. I don't take any of this seriously. Now, about those campaign contributions, it's totally cool if I remodel my basement with 'em, right?

Posted by: no good deed at January 09, 2014 12:00 PM (HsJeN)

10 That has to be Clownafornia

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 09, 2014 12:00 PM (T2V/1)

11 Colander for one head,
Toaster for the other.

Posted by: doofus with a colander on his head at January 09, 2014 12:00 PM (DCXZR)

12 of course this happened in NY...you know ....best and brightest & all that...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at January 09, 2014 12:01 PM (8v/hq)

13 Only a hopeless schlub would wear a plastic colander to an important event.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 09, 2014 12:01 PM (8ZskC)

14 Pastafarians. Meh. I tried smoking some penne regate once. All that happened was I listened to "O Sole Mio" over and over, then pigged out on gabbagool.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 12:01 PM (7ObY1)

15 if anything, i believe our public life needs a bit *less* sanctity, starting with various sacred cows, such as, but not limited to, Social Security, public pensions & public employee unions, public debt and public schools, to name a few of the herd to be culled.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (q+fqH)

16 Pomfret Town Board in New York, Vic.

Posted by: no good deed at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (HsJeN)

17 Is it more mature to put your hand on a bible you do not believe in and swear an oath to represent all the people? Or is it more mature to imply "Your silly conventions do not constrain me"... Neither are mature--but they're both rapey.

Posted by: Radical Wind Femtard at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (pginn)

18
The man should be whipped and horse-dragged.

Yes, serious.

I AM GODDAMN FED UP SUFFERING THESE FOOLS.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (gYIst)

19 Was he elected septic tank inspector?

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (tBpWR)

20 Was he elected septic tank inspector?

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (tBpWR)

21 Although CA's flag doesn't have a blue background

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (T2V/1)

22 The dead guy in the portrait seems amused.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (8ZskC)

23 Was he elected septic tank inspector?

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (tBpWR)

24 Was he elected septic tank inspector?

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (tBpWR)

25 The dead guy in the portrait seems to be amused.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (8ZskC)

26 So much of what we see coming from the left is people in revolt against God. Or social norms, if you object to putting this argument in religious terms. So we get gays arguing that gay sex is normal and "biblical sex" is unnatural, when in fact, the opposite is clearly true. In other words, these people are literally psychotic and wish to pretend that their worldview is the only true one. The fact that they invest so much time proving their own insane position and attempting to disprove the world's tells you that they know in their hearts how wrong they are.

Posted by: elaine at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (GNZ0/)

27 Schaeffer, a Democrat,

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:03 PM (MMC8r)

28 But I repeat myself.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 09, 2014 12:03 PM (8ZskC)

Those Tea Partiers, they be some silly bitches, yo. Isn't he a Tea Partier? What's his affiliation?

Posted by: Soona at January 09, 2014 12:03 PM (DV/pZ)

30 I didn't know the word "colander" till I was in my twenties. My Italian mom, and all Italian moms, call it a "skull-a-bahst." Which is Ital-glish for "scuola di pasta" or literally, "shake the pasta."

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 12:04 PM (7ObY1)

31 The uber-smug, condescending, douchebags have there own religion now? Thats nice. I guess.

Posted by: puddleglum at January 09, 2014 12:04 PM (av42N)

32 Nice post..save us from the quagmire...

More to the point.

We are not a serious nation, this goes all the way up to age 70 IMHO...

This shit gets worse...just wait until we introduce an ACTUAL horse to the Senate rather than a human-equine hybrid like Jungle John Kerry....

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 12:04 PM (TE35l)

33 I thought it was a hard hat and was confused why a contractor was being sworn in.

Posted by: Lauren at January 09, 2014 12:04 PM (hFL/3)

34
Was he elected septic tank inspector?

We ALL want to know!!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 12:04 PM (gYIst)

35 Yeah, NY's flag has a blue background

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 09, 2014 12:04 PM (T2V/1)

36 So FUCK YOU, voter.

Posted by: Your Elected Official at January 09, 2014 12:04 PM (MMC8r)

37 Now the statehouse will have to display statues of Moses, Satan and Chef Boyardee.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 09, 2014 12:05 PM (8ZskC)

38 Throw him against the wall and see if he sticks

Posted by: Bigby's Pantomime Hands at January 09, 2014 12:05 PM (3ZtZW)

39 The picture on the left looks like Kruscheff. (Pardon the spelling)

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 09, 2014 12:05 PM (tBpWR)

40 I guess his Femskin was out being.....rinsed.

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:05 PM (MMC8r)

41
I am way past other people amusing themselves at my expense.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 12:07 PM (gYIst)

42 A spaghetti strainer and a colander are not the same thing.
He's a splitter.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 09, 2014 12:07 PM (xq1UY)

43 I'll respect the views he claims when he only checks into atheist hospitals.

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:08 PM (MMC8r)

This is America now, people. Do we think we'll get any fiscal sanity with the likes of this?

Posted by: Soona at January 09, 2014 12:08 PM (DV/pZ)

45 Upon taking his oath, He immediately called for legislation, banning limp noodles.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 12:08 PM (FciyD)

46 You mean, George Washington didn't do this?

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 09, 2014 12:09 PM (Oa7B2)

47 A Darwin Fish on every vehicle.

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:09 PM (MMC8r)

48 Monty Python used to do lots of jokes about this sort of thing back in the 70s. I think we're just 40 years behind the Brits in deliberately insane political campaigns.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 12:10 PM (ZPrif)

49
Ace is still being a cheeky monkey in the thread below.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 12:10 PM (gYIst)

50 federal law 42 USC Â§ 18115

Off topic but I'll let y'all look it up.

Posted by: Dick (@DicksTrash) at January 09, 2014 12:10 PM (GrtrJ)

51 You mean, George Washington didn't do this?

Of course not, they didn't have plastic colanders.

He used a pewter one.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 09, 2014 12:10 PM (YEelc)

52 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 04:10 PM (ZPrif) Does that mean we get Jedis soon?

Posted by: AMDG at January 09, 2014 12:10 PM (t7OO0)

>>>I am way past other people amusing themselves at my expense.

I'm wondering, as a philosophical thingamajig, if one were to have a belief based on mockery of beliefs - subgenii, pastafarians, erisian, etc - how seriously can the *intentionally* unserious take an oath?

Posted by: Bigby's Pantomime Hands at January 09, 2014 12:10 PM (3ZtZW)

54 Why raise his right hand? Why swear an oath? Why wear a suit and tie? If this guy's so interested in tossing out dogma and convention, why participate in all the artificial social constructs? Because then he'd be mocking more than just those stupid xtianists, huh? Dicknuts.

Posted by: Xander Crews at January 09, 2014 12:11 PM (z2IAW)

55
~~Enemy Thread Below would make a good movie title.~~

Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 12:11 PM (gYIst)

56 Do you swear to defend and uphold the Constitution of Ronzoni-stan? I do.

Posted by: Mega at January 09, 2014 12:11 PM (hHFOx)

57 And why didn't he just use the Church of the Subgenius for this stunt? I bet he plays golf (the only sin for that bunch)

Posted by: Jeb Bush (and his mutant amnesty loving son) at January 09, 2014 12:11 PM (kxSZr)

58 I thought it was a hardhat too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 12:12 PM (7kkQJ)

59
hey waitaminute!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 12:12 PM (gYIst)

60 As an ardent Christian weirdo who more than anything wants the government to keep its hands off religion, I think I'm willing to let this fellow's pseudo-religion off the hook, much as I ignore the whole "airing of grievances" bit during Christmas. If the guy keeps his word, keeps his promises, and behaves himself to the satisfaction of his constituents, then whatever. If you're going to be weird enough to believe in a dead Carpenter, you should be weird enough to let other weirdos have their thing, even if their thing is to make fun of yours.

Posted by: Smallish Bees at January 09, 2014 12:12 PM (YPgXi)

61 42 USC Â§ 18114 (2) is good too.

Posted by: AMDG at January 09, 2014 12:12 PM (t7OO0)

62 I guess I take Schaeffer the Pastafarian's Cult of Government about as seriously as he takes religion.

Believe me. I'm pretty sure The Brothers/Sisters Horde can mock him and government infinitely more mercilessly than he can mock a religion.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 09, 2014 12:12 PM (eHIJJ)

63 Ewww, cast thee out, revoltingly liberal sock.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 09, 2014 12:12 PM (kxSZr)

64 Hrm. Maybe I want pasta for dinner.

Posted by: HR at January 09, 2014 12:12 PM (ZKzrr)

65 And a Bob the Builder fan shall rule them all!

Posted by: Remember precious PBS in ur will at January 09, 2014 12:12 PM (R6JT1)

66 54 Xander Crews at January 09, 2014 04:11 PM (z2IAW)

HEY YOU GET IT TOO!

There is NO fucking solemnity in that picture.

No Biggie...

Buy rice I'll buy the crockery...we'll build cabins....

the no frontal cortex caucus will be a riot.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 12:12 PM (TE35l)

67 As we swirl the cultural and financial toilet, it's nice to know we're officially a Jerry Springer nation.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 09, 2014 12:13 PM (Oa7B2)

68 A member of the Barking Mad Party, I see.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at January 09, 2014 12:13 PM (hLRSq)

69 Schaeffer, a Democrat, Thought I'd point that out again.

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:14 PM (MMC8r)

70 At least an you rest assured he doesn't have oral sex on his mind during his swearing in...or does he?

Posted by: State of Virginia Rep at January 09, 2014 12:14 PM (GgPam)

71 WE don't wear colanders on OUR heads. We don't wear wigs either. That's a popular misconception. We're The Whigs, not the wigs. Vote Whig!

Posted by: The Whigs at January 09, 2014 12:15 PM (7ObY1)

72 This is a local story. Let the locals handle it.

In other news, the conference committee has reached an agreement on the Farm Bill. What that agreement might be is unreported, but there is an agreement.

So does the Federal Government still required grape growers to turn over half their raisin grape production to the federal government?

Who cares as long as there is Velveeta on the shelf.

Posted by: Golden Roy at January 09, 2014 12:15 PM (C+ERn)

73 On the up side he is unlikely to get a BJ in public while wearing that thing on his head. No risk of a felony there.

Posted by: Aviator at January 09, 2014 12:15 PM (DI+ja)

74 O.K. I just read the link; I should have done that first; Sorry. "It's just a statement about religious freedom," he told reporter Greg Fox of the Observer in Dunkirk, about accessorizing with the symbol of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. No, it's not about religious liberty. It's that he's a moronic militant atheist, I suppose

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 12:15 PM (7kkQJ)

75 I bet he'll take his responsibilities very seriously.

Well done, body politic. Well done.

Posted by: grognard at January 09, 2014 12:15 PM (/29Nl)

76 If he'd worn a cat filter it would be different.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 09, 2014 12:16 PM (kxSZr)

77 Whats his usual nick on here? He must be an ONT kinda guy.

Posted by: Jean at January 09, 2014 12:16 PM (4JkHl)

78 Oooh I'm a Pastafarian. I'm so witty and clever because my dog at my dogma. These people are all fucking douchenozzles.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 12:17 PM (FciyD)

79 Does anyone else sometimes think that anti-religion people are more obsessed with religion than most religious people?

Posted by: Iasonas at January 09, 2014 12:17 PM (RUraj)

80 I saw Flying Spaghetti Monster open for The String Cheese Incident, Buffalo's Hertel Avenue Italian Fest, 1995. I was oddly hungry during the entire show.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 12:17 PM (7ObY1)

81 I'd be happy to pour boiling water into his colander.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 12:18 PM (FciyD)

82 I'd be happy to pour boiling water into his colander.

I think where you are it would turn into snow.

Posted by: Mega at January 09, 2014 12:19 PM (hHFOx)

83 I consider the Darwin Fish a convenient label for 'Driver is a Dick.' And the bumper stickers that say 'Well-behaved women rarely make history' tell me the driver is a bitch. If this guy had half the stones he likes to think he has, he'd have told the majority of the voting public he thinks they're morons before he conned them out of their votes.

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:19 PM (MMC8r)

84 Does anyone else sometimes think that anti-religion people are more obsessed with religion than most religious people? Posted by: Iasonas at January 09, 2014 04:17 PM .....Yes and I've had discussion with them. All you need to ask is one simple question. Why does something you don't believe in bother you so much?

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 12:19 PM (FciyD)

85 And, the wall looks racist.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Winter Borscht at January 09, 2014 12:20 PM (IXrOn)

86 I think where you are it would turn into snow. Posted by: Mega at January 09, 2014 04:19 PM It does! A bit warmer today but on Monday at 29 below zero (without WC) I showed my kids the trick of throwing boiling water in the air. Instant snow! Nothing ever hit the deck. My kids thought I was cool, well for 5 minutes at least.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 12:21 PM (FciyD)

87 81 I'd be happy to pour boiling water into his colander. LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 12:21 PM (7kkQJ)

88 "Pastafarianism" isn't offensive because it's a dumb, spiteful joke, it's offensive because it's the *same* dumb, spiteful joke over and over. Pastafarianism, rendered as a knock-knock joke, would go like this: One: Knock-Knock Two: Who's there? One: Religious people are stupid. Two: ... One: Get it?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at January 09, 2014 12:21 PM (qyfb5)

89 Well, when Choom Boy took the oath of office, he dressed nice, looked real solemn, and spoke in multi-syllable words that sounded very statesmanlike.

Didn't stop him from being an America-hating, treasonous jerk, though.

I don't care about the frills. We've been screwed royally by people who Did It Right, so to me this is just another Squirrel! to ignore.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 09, 2014 12:21 PM (ff7/5)

90 Pretty much shows why they are not the adults or tolerant ones they claim they are.

Posted by: Adam at January 09, 2014 12:21 PM (Aif/5)

91 I really do think that the "Ace of Spades Moron Lifestyle" should be codified with a long list of explicitly non-PC stuff as a piece of the religion itself.

"Yes, our bible's -have- to be pigskin."
"Yes, I -have- to pray before attempting to learn."
"Yes, I have to call you a newsreader. My other choice is moron, but I -think- I can see you reading that."
"Yes, you're an infidel."
"Yes, I -do- have to watch this football game. No, I'm not sure why they don't give the cheerleaders the league minimum, because they are essential."

Maybe we can leave minor details like ginger dress codes and required proof levels for daily ablutions out of the official documents.

Posted by: Al at January 09, 2014 12:22 PM (9ynpo)

92 From the looks of his waistline that colander is not just a prop.

Posted by: wth at January 09, 2014 12:22 PM (wAQA5)

93 84

Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 09, 2014 12:22 PM (RUraj)

94 Solution #2,345 to a bad hair day.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Winter Borscht at January 09, 2014 12:22 PM (IXrOn)

95 Minnfidel: "Oooh I'm a Pastafarian. I'm so witty and clever because my dog at my dogma. These people are all fucking douchenozzles."

Pretty much. And their proud of it. Like it's some sort of accomplishment.

Say, Mr. Pastafarian, what is it that you stand for?

"Whatever the Christian belief and ritual, I'm against it and will act reflexively reverse or averse to it."

So, again, what do you stand for?

"Derp."

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 09, 2014 12:22 PM (eHIJJ)

96 That wall really is pretty rayciss.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 12:23 PM (7ObY1)

97 They're, not their@95.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 09, 2014 12:23 PM (eHIJJ)

>>>Is it more mature to put your hand on a bible you do not believe in and swear an oath to represent all the people?

Or is it more mature to imply "Your silly conventions do not constrain me", mock the religion of probably a majority of your electorate, and swear an oath under a symbol of satire?<<<

A chickenshit in every ~~pot~~ colander.

Posted by: Hate Miser at January 09, 2014 12:24 PM (DCXZR)

99 48 Monty Python used to do lots of jokes about this sort of thing back in the 70s. I think we're just 40 years behind the Brits in deliberately insane political campaigns. --- I only wish it was an election involving Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop F'tang-F'tang-OlÃƒÂ©-Biscuitbarrel instead of this bunch of clowns.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 09, 2014 12:25 PM (/Crba)

100 In other news, the conference committee has reached an agreement on the Farm Bill. What that agreement might be is unreported, but there is an agreement.
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This time we've got the Donks just wher4e we want them.

Hey, give me a few minutes of hope before we find out just how far up the squeakhole we've been hit.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 12:25 PM (Hx5uv)

101 As a viral marketing technique - its brilliant. Esp. if he is selling colanders as hats.

Posted by: Jean at January 09, 2014 12:26 PM (4JkHl)

102 One thing that cracks me up about the media is the popular buzz word of the day/week, similar to the talking points sent by the WH to Dem minions.

Polar Vortex is today's Climate Changer something or other chillychillybangbang,

Posted by: ChristyBlinky survived 2014 Polar Vortex at January 09, 2014 12:26 PM (baL2B)

103 And the bumper stickers that say 'Well-behaved women rarely make history' tell me the driver is a bitch.

Posted by: ---

"CoExIst"
( I demand the removal of all Xmas imagery )

"War is bad for children and other living things"
( Cut me off an' Imma cut a bitch )

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 12:26 PM (tlwVg)

104 Hey, look it the 40 year old teenager. Man, I bet his Dad's all steamed an' shit cuz he's all rebellious. That's s-o-o-o-o-o-o-o cool.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 09, 2014 12:26 PM (0cMkb)

105 This actually doesn't bother me very much. Religious liberty is what I want too. Either we all have it, or none of us do.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 09, 2014 12:27 PM (P6QsQ)

106 Be more convincing if there was some noodles hanging down around his ears.

Posted by: wth at January 09, 2014 12:27 PM (wAQA5)

107 Polar Vortex is today's Climate Changer something or other chillychillybangbang, It's the buzzword that allow the Warmists to avoid answering the question 'If the globe is warming, why's it so damn COLD??'

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:27 PM (MMC8r)

108 103 And the bumper stickers that say 'Well-behaved women rarely make history' tell me the driver is a bitch. Posted by: --- "CoExIst" ( I demand the removal of all Xmas imagery ) "War is bad for children and other living things" ( Cut me off an' Imma cut a bitch ) --- I find there is a direct correlation between the number of bumper stickers on one's car and how big of an asshole they are.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 09, 2014 12:27 PM (/Crba)

109 Atheists is the past often took religion more seriously. I can't imagine Robert Ingersoll wearing a collander on his head to make a point like this.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 12:27 PM (7kkQJ)

110 It would been better if he wore a crock pot on his head.

Posted by: dantesed at January 09, 2014 12:28 PM (88xKn)

111 Does that mean we get Jedis soon? Posted by: AMDG Jar Jar Binks.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 12:28 PM (NKBxV)

112 'If the globe is warming, why's it so damn COLD??'
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Because science, hater.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 12:29 PM (Hx5uv)

113 Local Democrat is a fucking prick. News at 11.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 09, 2014 12:29 PM (M5T54)

114 Hey, I am a colander owner. Sometimes these things happen.

Posted by: Loosely Combover at January 09, 2014 12:29 PM (C+ERn)

115 Jar Jar Binks.
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We've already got Jar Jar Biden.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 12:30 PM (Hx5uv)

116 It would been better if he wore a ~~crock~~ piss pot on his head.

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:30 PM (MMC8r)

117 In other irreligion news, some guy in the UK created an "atheist church" where they could all meet on Sundays and talk about how start they were. It got so big, it spread to the US and Canada. Fast forward to today: The church recently had a schism. Some fight over whose sermons was more logical. I shit you not.

Posted by: TenthJustice at January 09, 2014 12:30 PM (qB8lN)

118 100 In other news, the conference committee has reached an agreement on the
Farm Bill. What that agreement might be is unreported, but there is an
agreement.Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 04:25 PM (Hx5uv)
So no ten dollar milk or whatever?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 09, 2014 12:31 PM (rLJaJ)

119 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 04:27 PM (7kkQJ) They didn't sneer so, at least the educated ones didn't. The play behind St. Thomas More's "Man for all Seasons" was written by an atheist. That actually may be the issue today. The vast majority have not just become agnostics, atheists, or free-thinkers, but rather anti-theists as part of an arrested development of teenage rebellion.

Posted by: AMDG at January 09, 2014 12:31 PM (t7OO0)

120 117 In other irreligion news, some guy in the UK created an "atheist church" where they could all meet on Sundays and talk about how start they were. It got so big, it spread to the US and Canada. Fast forward to today: The church recently had a schism. Some fight over whose sermons was more logical. I shit you not. --- I'm reminded of the episode of Metalocalypse where Murderface decided that he needed to get religion after a bad motorcycle accident. He ended up finding out that every church was EXACTLY THE SAME, including atheist churches and Satanist churches.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (/Crba)

121
I'd like to see him try on a pressure cooker.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (gYIst)

122 The church recently had a schism. Some fight over whose sermons was more logical. I shit you not.
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There's a brilliant scene in the book Catch 22 in which Yossarian and a floozie get into a big fight about which god they don't believe in.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (Hx5uv)

123 Lady Reading Oath thinking: "Hope this idiots office is in the basement."

Posted by: wth at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (wAQA5)

124 WTF? He needs a Thunder Mug ( google it ) on his fool head. With the fuse lit....

Posted by: backhoe at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (ULH4o)

125 Just discovered the Roman god of Liberty... was Libertas... Libertas was depicted on many Roman coins as a female figure with a pileus (a felt cap, worn by slaves when they were set free), a wreath of laurels and a spear. OK... hmmmm.... may be time to start a church... Because the Goddess of Liberty would have to have as one of its tenents that you were free from Tax Slavery, and Obamacare...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (lZBBB)

126 Posted by: TenthJustice at January 09, 2014 04:30 PM (qB8lN)

Reminds me of the South Park episodes where in the future the factions are not fighting over how to follow religion but how to follow science.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (RUraj)

127

>>>I saw Flying Spaghetti Monster open for The String Cheese Incident, Buffalo's Hertel Avenue Italian Fest, 1995.

I was there. It was sad, hanging out with the Ex. I went for pastichiotti and espresso after.

Posted by: Bigby's Pantomime Hands at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (3ZtZW)

128 117 In other irreligion news, some guy in the UK created an "atheist church" where they could all meet on Sundays and talk about how start they were. Posted by: TenthJustice at January 09, 2014 04:30 PM (qB8lN)
I always thought that's what Unitarians were all about.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (rLJaJ)

129 I'd like to see him try on a pressure cooker.
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I'm pretty sure that's an Islamic thing.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (Hx5uv)

130 126 Posted by: TenthJustice at January 09, 2014 04:30 PM (qB8lN) Reminds me of the South Park episodes where in the future the factions are not fighting over how to follow religion but how to follow science. --- Pretty sure they weren't even doing that but, instead, fighting over what NAME to call themselves.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 09, 2014 12:32 PM (/Crba)

131 Sorry for O/T but Hannity is reporting someone died waiting for an ambulance. Daughter thinks Christie's traffic jam didn't have anything to do with it, but facts won't stand in the way for the left.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 09, 2014 12:33 PM (9Bdcz)

132 I put this in a morning thread, but it fits here since the subject is the seriousness of politicos. Did anyone see the news story a while back about how these guys live in DC (Senators Schumer and Durbin)? Fully grown men, Senators, and they live in what is basically a frat house while they're in DC. Unmade beds in the living room, dirty dishes, fridge filled with nothing but beer (Bud Light), a cardboard JEF standee for decoration.....it's unreal. I know they're donks and thus they are emotionally and intellectually stunted, but I was amazed. They don't even live like adults! Hell, they had a news crew over and didn't even make the beds first! And these yahoos are amongst the most powerful men in DC! We are not a serious society.

Posted by: Weirddave at January 09, 2014 12:34 PM (N/cFh)

133 OT: Oklahoma Man Accused of Killing Step-Father with "Atomic Wedgie": http://tinyurl.com/pdwbu4y

Thankfully, only underwear was involved, and no weapons were greased with shit or other bodily secretions in the creation of this story.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 09, 2014 12:34 PM (TM1p8)

134
This cretin doesn't even use the colander properly. EVERYONE knows that you use a stainless steel colander, worn over your face, not your head, and accessorized with hockey pads and assless chaps.

Then again, he's probably just covering up the fact that he can't grow a proper mohawk.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 09, 2014 12:34 PM (TIIx5)

135 This actually doesn't bother me very much. Religious liberty is what I want too. Either we all have it, or none of us do.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 09, 2014 04:27 PM (P6QsQ)

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I agree. And I don't think anyone is saying he should be barred from office or should stop believing as he wishes because of this. But we can laugh at it. I mean, ya gotta admit, this is a bit on the bizzaro side.

Posted by: Soona at January 09, 2014 12:35 PM (DV/pZ)

136 .....Yes and I've had discussion with them. All you need to ask is one simple question. Why does something you don't believe in bother you so much? Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 04:19 PM (FciyD) And why do you spend so much time and energy arguing about something you don't believe in?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 12:35 PM (lZBBB)

137 filled with nothing but beer (Bud Light)

Posted by: Weirddave at January 09, 2014 04:34 PM (N/cFh)

They don't even like good beer. Or beer at all.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 09, 2014 12:36 PM (RUraj)

138 In other OTHER irreligion news, US News and World Report just published what is possibly the single most overtly bigoted article I've ever read in a major news magazine. But the target is Catholicism, so don't expect to hear about it. http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/Jamie-Stiehm/2014/01/07/the-catholic-supreme-courts-war-on-women

Posted by: TenthJustice at January 09, 2014 12:37 PM (qB8lN)

139 Also brings back the question of what, if anything, unifies America? What is the point of America? Why are we even a country if we don't have anything in common?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 12:37 PM (ZPrif)

140 And why do you spend so much time and energy arguing about something you don't believe in? More than that, they define themselves by the beliefs of others.

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:37 PM (MMC8r)

141 Hand to God, I thought that was a still from a Parks and Rec episode.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 09, 2014 12:37 PM (VtjlW)

142 Posted by: AMDG at January 09, 2014 04:31 PM (t7OO0) Yes, good point. That is a wonderful play. I am familiar with that author's comments on his lack of religious faith.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 12:38 PM (7kkQJ)

143 Pot head.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 09, 2014 12:38 PM (aDwsi)

144 But, but...isn't the use of a religious symbol as part of a governmental function unconstitutional and stuff you guys?!?

Posted by: Stu-22 at January 09, 2014 12:39 PM (KbrNh)

145 120

I'm reminded of the episode of Metalocalypse where Murderface decided that he needed to get religion after a bad motorcycle accident.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 09, 2014 04:32 PM (/Crba)

Heh. Religionklok. I love that episode.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 09, 2014 12:39 PM (M5T54)

146 Posted by: TenthJustice at January 09, 2014 04:30 PM (qB8lN) An atheist church would provide a group gathering place where they can share thing so in that respect it's a good thing. Certainly MUCH preferable to the guy who was an admitted Atheist serving as the rector of an Anglican Church and as far as I know the Anglicans didn't do anything to revoke his orders.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 12:41 PM (7kkQJ)

147 "CoExIst" ( I demand the removal of all Xmas imagery ) I know a teacher at a Catholic School who sports one of those bumper stickers on the back of her car. I feel like walking up to her and asking, "You sure you're okay with sporting a symbol of Islam on your piece-of-shit car while you get paid to teach about Jesus?" But I have better things to do with my time then deal with the openly, intentionally retarded.

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request [/i] at January 09, 2014 12:41 PM (LhJKj)

148 Heh. Religionklok. I love that episode.

It's all the same crap! Is there a bar near here?

Love. It.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 09, 2014 12:41 PM (RUraj)

149 144 But, but...isn't the use of a religious symbol as part of a governmental function unconstitutional and stuff you guys?!? Posted by: Stu-22 at January 09, 2014 04:39 PM (KbrNh) The Statue of Liberty is based on 'Libertas', the Roman God of Liberty.... and that likeness is all over the Government...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 12:41 PM (lZBBB)

150

Let me posit this question:

Under what authority does the government have to regulate any kind of sexual activity in public between consulting adults??

I await the genius answers on this one.

Posted by: prescient11 at January 09, 2014 12:41 PM (tVTLU)

151 My wife did her small part to stick it to the man today. A police department called her at work "ma'am can you unlock these stolen phones that were recovered in a drug raid so the department can sell them?" After she checks the numbers on the phones (she said some were 4-600 dollar phones) she says to the police "I can do better than that, I will contact the rightful owners so they can come get their phones from you. Thank you recovering these customers stolen property." Not the answer they were looking for. Libertarians, love them.

Posted by: traye at January 09, 2014 12:41 PM (dajxd)

152 O/T Mr. Black is informing me that my gov. Nikki Haley is voicing support for Christie on FB and is getting slammed for it.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 09, 2014 12:41 PM (Oa7B2)

153

Good grief, is this place turning into a seminary or something??

Let's talk about tax cuts!!!

Posted by: J. Random FisCon at January 09, 2014 12:42 PM (YYJjz)

154 People who agree with the Flying Spaghetti Monster "argument" don't understand logic. Here's the "argument": The existence of the invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti MonsterÂ—similar to other proposed supernatural beingsÂ—cannot be falsified, it demonstrates that the burden of proof rests on those who affirm the existence of such beings. It's a lame burden of proof shifting, and not argument at all. Logic dictates there is no definitive proof of G, therefore the existence of G is not known. They can't argue that there is no proof of G, therefore !G because that's openly an "Appeal from Ignorance." So they resort to a two degrees removed proposition, because to claim !G is easily refuted.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 12:42 PM (9PrpA)

155 South Place Ethical Society in London. Went there with a friend once. They have a bust of Thomas Paine where a crucifix might be.

http://tinyurl.com/qh2lxwz

Posted by: Javems at January 09, 2014 12:43 PM (nTgAI)

156 I hereby swear to uphold the oath of office, and to direct deposit all my paychecks while waiting for my retirement with full benefits. And I can promise that my office chair will never float away. *burp*

Posted by: Colander Head, newest gubmint empleado at January 09, 2014 12:43 PM (wAQA5)

157 Dude needs a boot in the ass.

Posted by: Fritz at January 09, 2014 12:43 PM (TKFmG)

158 84 Does anyone else sometimes think that anti-religion people are more obsessed with religion than most religious people? Posted by: Iasonas at January 09, 2014 04:17 PM .....Yes and I've had discussion with them. All you need to ask is one simple question. Why does something you don't believe in bother you so much? Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 04:19 PM (FciyD) That's a good one. I also like "Can you give me one reason why it would be wrong for me to kill you?" Not what consequences will I face, not what society would think of it, but why would it be wrong. Still haven't gotten a logical answer.

Posted by: Weirddave at January 09, 2014 12:43 PM (N/cFh)

159 Well, the guy's and his follower's sense of fashion are just passÃ©. Colanders are outrÃ©, double boilers are in ascension, fashion-wise.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 09, 2014 12:44 PM (aDwsi)

160 I thought that was Axelrod at first.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 09, 2014 12:44 PM (9Bdcz)

161 160. Me too.,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 12:44 PM (7kkQJ)

162 Certainly MUCH preferable to the guy who was an admitted Atheist serving as the rector of an Anglican Church and as far as I know the Anglicans didn't do anything to revoke his orders. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 04:41 PM (7kkQJ) ----- He was a bishop, and that was the Episcopalian Church, strictly speaking. Anglican in the United States more commonly refers to the Anglican Church of North America, who split off because of shit like that.

Posted by: TenthJustice at January 09, 2014 12:45 PM (qB8lN)

163 Pot head.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 09, 2014 04:38 PM (aDwsi)

Chamber pot?

Posted by: wth at January 09, 2014 12:46 PM (wAQA5)

164 Slow News Day? You see a Gorn in that sidebar? Because I sure as hell don't.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2014 12:46 PM (6oxVD)

165

Whatdoyathink? Does this guy wanna legalize smoking stupid?

http://tinyurl.com/qzafj7l

Posted by: maddogg at January 09, 2014 12:46 PM (xWW96)

166 You could do a p-shop template with this and sub in stuff like Thor: Horned Helmet and Shikism: Turban, and he'd be like Bwahahahaha until he saw the Halo one then he'd be like die you fkers

Posted by: Bigby's Pantomime Hands at January 09, 2014 12:46 PM (3ZtZW)

167 Support OfA action committee fund raising drive to advance the people's right to carry a colander. Don't let the evil republicans make a mockery out of colander carriers. Send your contributions today to halt this evil mockery of an important kitchen tool.

Even five dollars can help
email in the nic.

.you are welcome.

Posted by: Organizing for Action at January 09, 2014 12:46 PM (jwufW)

168
I thought that was Axelrod at first.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262Â© at January 09, 2014 04:44 PM (9Bdcz)

Nah. ColanderBoy has too much dignity.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 09, 2014 12:47 PM (TIIx5)

169

>>>My wife did her small part to stick it to the man today

Say thanks to your cool wife, dude. Doesn't affect me at all but that's awesome

Posted by: Bigby's Pantomime Hands at January 09, 2014 12:47 PM (3ZtZW)

170 Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2014 04:42 PM (9PrpA) but if you believe that God created the Universe, then the Universe itself is proof that God Exists... Logic itself is always based on a base premise, that can neither be proven nor disproven... but must be taken as true for logic to even have a basis... Ergo, saying that you cannot argue religion logically is saying that I cannot accept your premise, but you must accept mine...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 12:47 PM (lZBBB)

171 No, the man I'm referring to was an Anglican priest in England-not a Bishop. and not john Shelby Spong, if that's who you're thinking of . although I don't think he admit to being an Atheist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 12:48 PM (7kkQJ)

172 "Can you give me one reason why it would be wrong for me to kill you?" Not what consequences will I face, not what society would think of it, but why would it be wrong. How about an argument that stems from Property Rights? My body is my property, you have no right to take it from me. Then all you have to do is reference the arguments for Property Rights to establish that foundation.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 12:48 PM (J79eW)

173 Out of curiosity, how bad would it go for the man in the picture to act that way in a predominantly Muslim country?

What's that? That's "different" because "Shut Up!" Oh, OK.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 09, 2014 12:49 PM (ODsL5)

174 Wow a picture of a pol mocking religion. This is a great followup post to calm things down.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at January 09, 2014 12:50 PM (0q2P7)

175 The existence of the invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti MonsterÂ—similar to other proposed supernatural beingsÂ—cannot be falsified, it demonstrates that the burden of proof rests on those who affirm the existence of such beings.
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Speaking of burden of proof, David Gregory says the burden of proof is on Krispy Kreme to prove he didn't create an atmosphere where things like Bridg-nado could happen, an argument he has never voiced regarding The Won.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 12:51 PM (Hx5uv)

176 Look at all the Xtianists hopping up and down like a fucking organ grinder's monkey over a guy with a kitchen tool on his head. You just want to control everyone's choice of headwear with your "traditionalist" godbag morality. And NO I WON'T SHUT UP.

Posted by: dEUCE at January 09, 2014 12:51 PM (CJjw5)

177 "Dan, knit in Berroco PeruviaÂ® has the handsome clean lines of a raglan pullover with panels of stockinette punctuated by equidistant vertical bands of twisted stitch ribbing."

Found this pearl while searching for a pattern for a sweater for DH. Who is this Dan, and what is he doing in Peruvia?

Posted by: tcn at January 09, 2014 12:51 PM (fwcEs)

178 Posted by: traye at January 09, 2014 04:41 PM (dajxd)

Ha!

I would have probably said "Do you have a warrant?" but I think her response was gold.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 09, 2014 12:51 PM (RUraj)

179 but why would it be wrong. Still haven't gotten a logical answer. Posted by: Weirddave at January 09, 2014 04:43 PM (N/cFh) How about this.... Good is Race Survival... Evil is what impedes Race Survival. Not knowing that you will make a positive impact on the Race surviving, it would be evil, ie wrong, to take your life without some justification. But then... I'm a Libertarian who has actually thought about what his philosophy means...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 12:51 PM (lZBBB)

180 So, there are 100 episodes of "Fringe", 5 seasons worth, on Netflix, I've never even seen one. Worth starting the long slog?

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 09, 2014 12:52 PM (ZshNr)

181 I have a bad feeling about this. The horde all join The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I see this happening. Who thinks this shit up. Do they have tax free status? Is the councilman, noted as a minister, living in a tax free pastor's residence? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 09, 2014 12:53 PM (0FSuD)

182 Logic itself is always based on a base premise, that can neither be proven nor disproven... but must be taken as true for logic to even have a basis... There are three things even a perfectly logical and scientific person must take on faith, and can never be proven nor disproven. 1. There exists a physical reality outside of your conscience. 2. The observations you make about physical reality are true independent of time. (What if scientific measurements are dependent on a bubble of time we're in, and at other times the scientific experiment would have gone differently. 3. The observations you make about physical reality are true independent of space. (What if scientific measurements are dependent on a bubble of space we're in, and in other spaces the scientific experiment would have gone differently.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 12:53 PM (J79eW)

183

I think this is more evidence that the burning times are here.

Posted by: Soona at January 09, 2014 12:53 PM (DV/pZ)

184 Say thanks to your cool wife, dude. Doesn't affect me at all but that's awesome Posted by: Bigby's Pantomime Hands I have been telling everyone because I think it's awesome too. The shame is, it's the right thing to do and as such shouldn't have been necessary. The call should have been "ma'am, we have a bunch of stolen property that is easily tracked to the original owners by your company. Would you mind doing that?"

Posted by: traye at January 09, 2014 12:53 PM (dajxd)

185 >>>"traditionalist" godbag morality.<<<

This guy is a dumbfuck. He's wearing a suit, standing next to two flags, - traditionalism has nothing to do with the fact that this dude is a fuckstick.

Posted by: Fritz at January 09, 2014 12:54 PM (TKFmG)

186 How about an argument that stems from Property Rights? My body is my property, you have no right to take it from me. Then all you have to do is reference the arguments for Property Rights to establish that foundation. Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2014 04:48 PM (J79eW) Property Rights have to do with how the Human Mind is wired. Its a codification of Instinct. Because without Property rights, we would fight over property, which would lead to killing, which could inhibit Race Survival if taken too far... See how this works??? /smile

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 12:54 PM (lZBBB)

187 What an ass this guy is.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 09, 2014 12:54 PM (UAMVq)

188 "Can you give me one reason why it would be wrong for me to kill you?"
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I had a professor in law school who was big on law and economics and who was stumped by this question. Why should it be illegal for me to threaten you with a gun and steal your money? You value your life more than your money so you would be the highest valued user of your life while I value your money more than your life so I would be the highest valued user of your money.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 12:55 PM (Hx5uv)

189 Here's a thought, to all you anti-Christians out there. What makes you smarter and more insightful than 2,000+ years of Christian thought and philosophy? Really? You think your dumbed-down public skool edumacation makes you as enlightened as St. Thomas Aquinas and Benedict XVI combined?

Rat-farted, anti-intellectual tripe is all atheism is about.

Posted by: tcn at January 09, 2014 12:55 PM (fwcEs)

190 Hopping up and down like a fucking organ grinder's monkey over a guy with a kitchen tool on his head. Hopping up and down. Hardly? LO LI'm irritated that a man has so little resect for his office that he's be such a buffoon but he's makes his side ludicrous.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 12:55 PM (7kkQJ)

191 If I'm a traditionalist for wanting to see a fucking sidebar Gorn, so be it.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2014 12:55 PM (6oxVD)

192 traye, that's pretty damn awesome of your wife to pull one over on the cops like that. They should've been asking her to contact the rightful owners, not fucking re-sell them for profit. I shudder to think what they do with guns from justified shootings. Note to self: do not carry $1000 guns for defense.

Posted by: EC at January 09, 2014 12:55 PM (doBIb)

193 EoJ trollin'?

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:56 PM (MMC8r)

194 How about this.... Good is Race Survival... Evil is what impedes Race Survival.

Not knowing that you will make a positive impact on the Race surviving, it would be evil, ie wrong, to take your life without some justification.

But then... I'm a Libertarian who has actually thought about what his philosophy means...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 04:51 PM (lZBBB)

Why? According to the greenies, the survival of man is hurting the planet. So....

Posted by: tcn at January 09, 2014 12:56 PM (fwcEs)

195

It'd be funny if the FSM was Teh Real and was Not.Amused.

**sniff** Do you smell .... puttanesca? waitaminit...

Posted by: Bigby's Pantomime Hands at January 09, 2014 12:57 PM (3ZtZW)

196 100 episodes of "Fringe"
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I liked the early season pretty well, the later seasons not so much.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 12:57 PM (Hx5uv)

197 See how this works??? /smile Yep, was too lazy to flesh out my thoughts. Yours do nicely.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 12:57 PM (o4Xc4)

198 Pastafarianism is a religion like "The Daily Show" and "The Colber Repor" are news shows. (Or like MSNBC is a news network, for that matter.)

Posted by: Rich Fader at January 09, 2014 12:57 PM (pZ0kE)

199 Because without Property rights, we would fight over property, which would lead to killing, which could inhibit Race Survival if taken too far... Why should I care if the race survives?

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 09, 2014 12:58 PM (g0OoZ)

200 If there is no Creator, then there are no 'inalienable' rights.

Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 12:58 PM (MMC8r)

201 Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 04:55 PM (Hx5uv) Because without being secure in your property, you would have to spend a lot of time and energy protecting said property... Overall Society is more likely to survive if we can put that energy to better uses... like creating things to help us survive... Race survival benefits by cooperation....

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 12:58 PM (lZBBB)

202 Note to self: do not carry $1000 guns for defense. Posted by: EC H&K USP and USP Compact $975.00 each.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 12:59 PM (NKBxV)

203 Posted by: Rich Fader at January 09, 2014 04:57 PM (pZ0kE)

And guess what? Millions of people watch The Daily Show and Colbert.

And I guess a couple of people watch MSDNC but you get my point.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 09, 2014 12:59 PM (RUraj)

204 I had a professor in law school who was big on law and economics and who was stumped by this question. Why should it be illegal for me to threaten you with a gun and steal your money? You value your life more than your money so you would be the highest valued user of your life while I value your money more than your life so I would be the highest valued user of your money. Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 04:55 PM (Hx5uv) --------------------------------- My belief in the Judeo-Christian derived rule of law is the only thing keeping me from enslaving this continent. Maybe certain people shouldn't try so hard to shake my faith. What if they succeed?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 09, 2014 12:59 PM (CJjw5)

205 Why should I care if the race survives? Posted by: Grey Fox at January 09, 2014 04:58 PM (g0OoZ) Because without the rest of the Race, your chances of survival become less.... If you were totally alone, would you have the same access to goods and services you have now??? Those things which promote comfort and safety?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 12:59 PM (lZBBB)

206 This guy is a dumbfuck. He's wearing a suit, standing next to two flags, - traditionalism has nothing to do with the fact that this dude is a fuckstick.

Posted by: Fritz at January 09, 2014 04:54 PM (TKFmG)

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Look again. He's wearing a crumpled sport jacket and a pair of jeans.

Posted by: Soona at January 09, 2014 01:00 PM (DV/pZ)

207 What is wrong with the horde? All these comments about some loser jerkwad, and not a single admiring mention of the Judge's bazongas?

Posted by: Furious George at January 09, 2014 01:00 PM (flGHO)

208 Posted by: dEUCE at January 09, 2014 04:51 PM (CJjw5) http://www.vgmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/son-this-is-bait.png

Posted by: TenthJustice at January 09, 2014 01:00 PM (qB8lN)

209 May my noodly appendage be upon you!

Posted by: Flying spagetti monster at January 09, 2014 01:00 PM (XvHmy)

210 What if they succeed?

I'm really good at making pie. Please let me live.

Posted by: HR at January 09, 2014 01:00 PM (ZKzrr)

211 I'm not going to read that nonsense, so somebody please tell me: are we supposed to be worshipping this douche instead of the anti-bj Virginia delegate?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 01:01 PM (TOk1P)

212 How about an argument that stems from Property Rights? My body is my property, you have no right to take it from me. Then all you have to do is reference the arguments for Property Rights to establish that foundation. Why is it wrong for me to steal from you? I got 10,000 years of human history showing that taking from others is more common that not doing so. Why would it be wrong to "take" your life?

Posted by: Weirddave at January 09, 2014 01:01 PM (N/cFh)

213 So, how dumb am I? Until today, I have never heard of Pastafarians or the FSM. But I've seen cars with the little FSM Darwin-fish on them everywhere, and every time I saw them, I thought FSM stood for the Federated States of Micronesia, and the creature was a crab. I've been thinking to myself, "there sure are a lot of Micronesians around here."

Well, now I know.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 09, 2014 01:01 PM (WtVhX)

214 If you were totally alone, would you have the same access to goods and services you have now??? Those things which promote comfort and safety?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 04:59 PM (lZBBB)

Which prove nothing about right and wrong whatsoever.

Posted by: tcn at January 09, 2014 01:01 PM (fwcEs)

215 Why? According to the greenies, the survival of man is hurting the planet. So.... Posted by: tcn at January 09, 2014 04:56 PM (fwcEs) I don't care about the planet... hell.... I want the human race off this rock.... So all of our eggs are not in one basket as it were.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 01:01 PM (lZBBB)

216 If there is no Creator, then there are no 'inalienable' rights. Posted by: --- And no moral code. Left better be careful what they wish for. If there were no God and there were no Hell, there wouldn't be anything keeping them alive.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 01:01 PM (NKBxV)

217

>>>Why should I care if the race survives?

Yeah, not getting that either.

Anyways - later all

Posted by: Bigby's Pantomime Hands at January 09, 2014 01:01 PM (3ZtZW)

218 Why should I care if the race survives? Going back to my three unprovable postulates: Prove to me that any of you exist outside my conscience. If you can't, how do I know there even is a human race? If I don't know that, what importance are any of you to me?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 01:01 PM (A0glY)

219 Under what authority does the government have to regulate any kind of sexual activity in public between consulting adults??
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I, for one, don't wish to be walking my dog in the park and see a couple of alternative lifestyle people doing the wild thing. No ugly people either. It might put my dog off his feed. And me, too.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 01:02 PM (Hx5uv)

220 I'd vote for him, couldn't be any worse that what we get now

Posted by: The Dude at January 09, 2014 01:02 PM (vJdyz)

221 And speaking of fringe politicians, whatever happened to the whole thing about US flags with fringe on them being some sort of sign that the CFR and/or Bilderbergers were taking over?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 01:03 PM (TOk1P)

222 So, there are 100 episodes of "Fringe", 5 seasons worth, on Netflix, I've never even seen one. Worth starting the long slog? Posted by: Lincolntf at January 09, 2014 04:52 PM (ZshNr) Nope. Some great ideas, but they constantly violate their own laws. And throw Hail Mary-Deus ex machina plotting in the last season to close the whole thing out.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 09, 2014 01:03 PM (0cMkb)

223

I would not have administered the oath if I were the judge.

Respect the position and the people who elected you. Even the church of the fuckuped spaghetti worshippers say they have no rules , rituals or dogma. The colonder is not any established religious symbol.

"Take the mother fucker off and I'll administer the oath. I've got all day bitch. "

Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 01:03 PM (m2CN7)

224 Which prove nothing about right and wrong whatsoever. Posted by: tcn at January 09, 2014 05:01 PM (fwcEs) The philosophy is based on Race survival... ergo 'good' and 'right' are shorthand terms for things that help survival....

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 01:04 PM (lZBBB)

225 H&K USP and USP Compact $975.00 each. Haha! I got mine when they were half that!

Posted by: EC at January 09, 2014 01:04 PM (doBIb)

226 I'm really good at making pie. Please let me live. Posted by: HR at January 09, 2014 05:00 PM (ZKzrr) --------------------- This one pleases me. Report to the mess sergeant.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 09, 2014 01:05 PM (CJjw5)

227 How about this.... Good is Race Survival... Evil is what impedes Race Survival. Not knowing that you will make a positive impact on the Race surviving, it would be evil, ie wrong, to take your life without some justification. But then... I'm a Libertarian who has actually thought about what his philosophy means... Arbitrary definition designed to beg the question. No other animal uses "race survival" as guidance for it's actions, and furthermore, what makes "race survival" a good? To steal an argument from the ecotards, humans are killing the planet, our race surviving is "bad".Try again.

Posted by: Weirddave at January 09, 2014 01:05 PM (N/cFh)

228 Because without the rest of the Race, your chances of survival become less.... If you were totally alone, would you have the same access to goods and services you have now??? Those things which promote comfort and safety? So you are basically arguing for enlightened self-interest, the idea that being moral helps me get what I want. The problem with that is two-fold. First, being moral doesn't help me get what I want, it is other people being moral that get me what I want. Doing the right thing actually is rather unpleasant most of the time. The second problem is that good and evil are still relative and mutable - if I think that society acting a certain way will get me what I want, then it is good for them to act in that way and wrong if they do not. What if my ideal world involves the government to take our stuff and give it to me?

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 09, 2014 01:06 PM (g0OoZ)

229

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Exactly. They say it's "all in your head," and that is of course, completely true. How else am I to take in evidence of the universe EXCEPT through my head?

I owe none of you anything. This whole universe thing is about my wants/needs/entertainment.

You "people" with your "personal liberty" nonsense can go suck eggs... if eggs actually existed, that is.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 01:06 PM (TOk1P)

230 207 What is wrong with the horde? All these comments about some loser jerkwad, and not a single admiring mention of the Judge's bazongas? Town clerk, but yeah...

Posted by: EC at January 09, 2014 01:06 PM (doBIb)

231 Because without being secure in your property, you would have to spend a lot of time and energy protecting said property...
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That's pretty much my take. If robbery were legal, everything except weapons, armor, and fortifications would be lesser valued and therefore in a macro-economic sense, society would be poorer.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 01:08 PM (Hx5uv)

232 The philosophy is based on Race survival... ergo 'good' and 'right' are shorthand terms for things that help survival.... Basically this is Consequentialism.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 01:09 PM (gtjN1)

233

John Stossel has made a good argument why blackmail should not be a crime.

If the information you have was obtained legally, why shouldn't you be able to enter into a contract with someone for your silence?

Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 01:10 PM (m2CN7)

234 H&K USP and USP Compact $975.00 each. Haha! I got mine when they were half that! Posted by: EC I. Hate. You. j/k

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 01:10 PM (NKBxV)

235 Prove to me that any of you exist outside my conscience.

Posted by: bonhomme

I'd be careful with this one because there's one easy answer in person.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 01:11 PM (tlwVg)

236 Meh. When I was a little kid I used to put a colander on my head when I was playing in the kitchen. I also used to put a metal bowl on my head to play "army". And my mom used to put a bowl on my head when she gave me a haircut. No big whoop. Typical Dem assnugget.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 09, 2014 01:12 PM (BXLPR)

237

207 not a single admiring mention of the Judge's bazongas?

I must mention I do admire the Judges bazongas.

And of course her obvious nakedness beneath that robe.

Posted by: wth at January 09, 2014 01:12 PM (wAQA5)

238 Exactly. They say it's "all in your head," and that is of course, completely true. How else am I to take in evidence of the universe EXCEPT through my head? This blows my mind: Assuming there is a reality outside my conscience: Assuming my senses take time to register the physical reality: My actual reality body and mind exist ahead of the time I perceive. In a sense I am piloting blind, only ever reacting to events that occurred in the past.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 01:12 PM (gtjN1)

239 207 What is wrong with the horde? All these comments about some loser jerkwad, and not a single admiring mention of the Judge's bazongas? Posted by: Furious George at January 09, 2014 05:00 PM (flGHO) Thems ain't bazongas, that is just a huge gut.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 09, 2014 01:14 PM (BXLPR)

240 ohn Stossel has made a good argument why blackmail should not be a crime. If the information you have was obtained legally, why shouldn't you be able to enter into a contract with someone for your silence? Um, uh. I got nothin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 01:15 PM (NKBxV)

241

238 -

Hmmmm... so all this time, I've been trying to "finish" at the same time with my female partner, and I'm not even finishing at the same time as myself?

Oh the futility of it all.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 01:17 PM (TOk1P)

242 I'd be careful with this one because there's one easy answer in person. I'm guessing you (jokingly) mean you'd hit me. The thing is, how do I know that's real? It could all be in my head. You know the famous, "I think, therefore I am." statement? That's the only thing logic can really prove. Because I am thinking, I exist. Who's to say, like the famous "sleeping dragon" idea, that I'm not just a flickering thought in the mind of a mythical beast, able to exist as long as it dreams? Or a brain in a vat, surrounded by a lab, which is surrounded by void?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 01:17 PM (gtjN1)

243 I think the clerk might be pregnant.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 09, 2014 01:19 PM (7kkQJ)

244 The definition of asshat. Literally.

Posted by: jakeman at January 09, 2014 01:19 PM (vH4YP)

245

Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2014 05:17 PM (gtjN1)

You must have loved The Matrix.

Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 01:19 PM (m2CN7)

246

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Isn't that why we ALL loved the Matrix? Because it was at least remotely plausible?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 01:20 PM (TOk1P)

247 You must have loved The Matrix. Same idea. I'm just pointing out that Science and reason are based on unprovable assertions, which is something atheists mock religious people mercilessly for.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 01:22 PM (gtjN1)

248 179 How about this.... Good is Race Survival... Evil is what impedes Race Survival. Not knowing that you will make a positive impact on the Race surviving, it would be evil, ie wrong, to take your life without some justification. But then... I'm a Libertarian who has actually thought about what his philosophy means... Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 04:51 PM (lZBBB) ----------------------------------- Okay. Maybe I can't think of "some justification" for killing YOU, but how about that old bat with Alzheimers? How about the disabled? How about the FSA people who breed gang-members and thugs? How about the meth heads down the road? I can come up with plenty of "race-survival" justification to kill a whole lot of people. Good grief.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 09, 2014 01:25 PM (dfYL9)

249 Bonhomme, it's even more basic than that. If God is the creator of the universe, and by definition he is, then he must exist outside of the universe, therefor he is not of this universe and not subject to the laws of the universe. We, being of this universe, are limited by it's laws and are completely unable to even comment or or postulate anything about his nature or even his existence (or not). The only logically or scientifically consistent position on God existence is agnosticism.

Posted by: Weirddave at January 09, 2014 01:28 PM (N/cFh)

250 I. Hate. You. Don't understand why the price doubled.

Posted by: EC at January 09, 2014 01:28 PM (doBIb)

251 "79 Does anyone else sometimes think that anti-religion people are more obsessed with religion than most religious people?"

Well, my church body spends its time outside the church feeding the homeless and going on mission trips building shelter for the indigent. Their church body spends its time marching around acting like children making fun of the existence of church bodies. I'll leave it to anyone else to judge which brings more value to society.

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at January 09, 2014 01:29 PM (T+Zre)

252 What. An. Asshole.

Posted by: Filly at January 09, 2014 01:30 PM (gr/p1)

253 I don't care; I think it's funny. IIRC, the office into which he is being installed is not exactly heavy duty.

Posted by: logprof, 'Nole Fan at January 09, 2014 01:31 PM (X3GkB)

254 Who's to say, like the famous "sleeping dragon" idea, that I'm not just a flickering thought in the mind of a mythical beast, able to exist as long as it dreams? Or a brain in a vat, surrounded by a lab, which is surrounded by void? Posted by: bonhomme True but the obstacle there is consistency. You'd react because of experience. Something solid hits your face above a certain speed, it's going to hurt. The experience is consistent. Exceptions? Of course. Are our observations limited to an almost infinite degree? Yes, but a lot of stuff sure is consistent, and if such a event was a illusion, consistency is not guaranteed. Ultimately consistency is what seems to give rise to to the vague boundary between illusion and what we consider real. It's not finite, not concrete, nor a mathematically definable mechanism. But you will react to someone swinging at your head just the same.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 01:31 PM (tlwVg)

255 "My first official act in office is to mock about 90% of my electorate for no apparent reason."

Favorite quote from the story: "He insists he didn't do it for the attention..."

Posted by: Filly at January 09, 2014 01:33 PM (gr/p1)

256 I don't care; I think it's funny. IIRC, the office into which he is being installed is not exactly heavy duty.

Posted by: logprof, 'Nole Fan at January 09, 2014 05:31 PM (X3GkB)

You wouldn't care if you were the one administering the oath?

Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 01:40 PM (m2CN7)

257

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 09, 2014 05:31 PM (tlwVg)

Not to go Matrix on you but deja vu, premonitions, out of body experiences, etc. Science has tried to explain those phenomenon as brain farts but the science is shaky.

Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 01:43 PM (m2CN7)

258 Classy with a capital K.

Posted by: Frank Underwood (D-SC) at January 09, 2014 02:09 PM (OpaBw)

259 Looks good to me.

Posted by: bobmark at January 09, 2014 03:23 PM (gduln)

260 Did the jackass campaign like that?
If not, why?

Posted by: Cabover at January 09, 2014 04:17 PM (88stE)

261 crybaby

Posted by: JB at January 09, 2014 07:04 PM (K/J3u)

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