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January 07, 2014

Standing Up to the Bullies: The University of Texas Quits The American Studis Association Over The Latter's Israel Boycott
— Ace

This is something I keep talking about of late. An organization with an agenda (usually leftist) demands a firing -- in this case, the American Studies Association demanded a firing of Israel. The firing would take the form of an academic boycott of the beleaguered nation, which would mean that universities joining the boycott would sever programatic ties with Israel and Israeli universities.

Over 100 universities and academic organizations have rejected the ban.

And five universities have taken even firmer action against the "American" Studies Association's drive to limit free speech and free exchange of ideas -- they've severed institutional ties with the ASA completely.

The University of Texas honors itself by becoming the sixth to do so.

I am hopeful for more backlash against this odious, unamerican practice. It has become the standard move to give in to a bully when the bully issues a list of demands. It is easier for a university -- or a corporation, as we've seen lately -- to just give in to the bully.

Squeaky wheels get grease, after all.

But what if Squeaky Wheels stopped getting so much grease? What if they instead got a swift kick to the axel and were told they'd better stop squeaking so shrilly or they'd be rubbished?

It's about time we all started standing up this sort of faux-intellectual brigandry. It's time to tell the baying mobs, ever out for blood, to STFU, keep a civil tongue, and make us all a nice sandwich in apology for their past sins.

Posted by: Ace at 12:03 PM | Comments (236)
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1 speaking of squeaky wheels... Ann Coulter is on with Howie Carr on wrko starting now. It's always very good.

Posted by: soothie at January 07, 2014 12:05 PM (J5lvw)

2 Hook 'em Horns!!!

...never thought I'd be saying that....

Posted by: NC Ref at January 07, 2014 12:06 PM (Myqtp)

3 I life that Dufflebag kickstarter story...as long as morons realize DB is the military's onion.

Posted by: oejay44cday at January 07, 2014 12:06 PM (72j65)

4 Doggone Studis.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 07, 2014 12:06 PM (9W1fA)

5 The Street Justice link on the sidebar is an awesome example of how to handle bullies...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2014 12:07 PM (IXrOn)

6 one small victory. Insty had story about UCLA dropping english classics from their literature studies bc diversity. the academy is ripping itself apart and we're paying for it as it does so.

Posted by: oejay44cday at January 07, 2014 12:07 PM (72j65)

Hey, perpetual outrage monkeys of the left, get your fucking shine box.

Hear, hear!

Posted by: prescient11 at January 07, 2014 12:07 PM (tVTLU)

8 But what if Squeaky Wheels stopped getting so much grease? What if they instead got a swift kick to the axel and were told they'd better stop squeaking so shrilly or they'd ~~be rubbished~~ get their bearings ripped out & replaced? Fixed.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 12:08 PM (8D0/R)

9 that is, this story is one small victory while the rest of the academy is still batshit.

Posted by: oejay44cday at January 07, 2014 12:08 PM (72j65)

10 UT is just another damn Raacist Tea Party university!

Posted by: Stu at American Studis at January 07, 2014 12:09 PM (W2qJe)

11 But what if Squeaky Wheels stopped getting so much grease? What if they instead got a swift kick to the axel and were told they'd better stop squeaking so shrilly or they'd be rubbished? Time and again, we've seen taking a strong stand works. It's amazing how so many still give in to fear.* *some of that fear is for their family. Their safety and being able to take care of them financially. But, it has to stop somewhere.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2014 12:09 PM (IXrOn)

12 >>It's time to tell the baying mobs, ever out for blood, to STFU, keep a civil tongue, and ~~make us all a nice sandwich in apology for their past sins.~~ and buy us all Chick-fil-A hate sandwiches.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 07, 2014 12:10 PM (SUKHu)

13 About damn time.

Posted by: Gmac at January 07, 2014 12:10 PM (4pjhs)

14 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 07, 2014 12:10 PM (PYAXX)

15 The world has gone so mad that any trace of sanity is something to be celebrated.

Posted by: toby928© at January 07, 2014 12:10 PM (QupBk)

16 Ace, Amen,amen,amen. We must do this in all things. Marginalize the bullies, stand up to them... It works. If the repubs would think instead of worrying about the next dinner party we might get somewhere.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at January 07, 2014 12:10 PM (GKF3X)

No squeaks louder than the Gheys at GLAAD, and Witch Doctors at Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 07, 2014 12:10 PM (EGPJQ)

18 Please to note that both my schools have rejected this boycott. Still got some work to do before you see any coin from me but a good step.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 07, 2014 12:11 PM (g1DWB)

19 Where does the School of Hard Knocks stand on this?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 07, 2014 12:12 PM (EGPJQ)

20 We are experiencing one of those bully things here right now. A catholic high school dismissed its vice principal after he revealed he married his partner. Now another gay person who sometimes works for the school is worried because she is engaged to her partner. The students are riled up and protesting, the gay community is up in arms and it has become a "thing." essentially everyone is trying to bully the Catholic school to change its employment stance but if that doesn't work they want to shut the school down for being intolerant.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 12:12 PM (RZ8pf)

21 >It's time to tell the baying mobs, ever out for blood, to STFU, keep a civil tongue, and make us all a nice sandwich in apology for their past sins. and buy us all Chick-fil-A hate sandwiches. But first, blow us!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 12:12 PM (8D0/R)

22 Good for them.

Slightly OT..... but I get a kick of the anti bullying ads on the tube.

"Do something. Say something. Get involved. Stop Bullying"

What they DONT show is what to do after Spike the Bully flattens your nose for butting in and Mom has to come pick you up because the school has a zero tolerance policy for fighting.... despite the fact you were only "bleeding" and not really "fighting".

But those writers didnt really think their scenario all the way through, did they.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2014 12:13 PM (nELVU)

23 No squeaks louder than the Gheys at GLAAD, and Witch Doctors at Planned Parenthood. Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 07, 2014 04:10 PM (EGPJQ) and La Raza

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 07, 2014 12:13 PM (IXrOn)

24 Ace, Amen,amen,amen. We must do this in all things. Marginalize the bullies, stand up to them... It works. If the repubs would think instead of worrying about the next dinner party we might get somewhere. If it's Mooch's party, eat before you go......

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 12:13 PM (8D0/R)

25 As someone in ~~academics~~ exile from academics. I'm tired of the whole "consensus statements!" and "Resolutions" by various groups. FFS, if they truly believe what they say we're not an advocacy group, we're disciplines and fields that should encourage robust debate. Instead we've got resolutions that Obamacare is good or that Israel is bad. It's stupid as shit. More places should have the balls to stand up say "Not just no, FUCK NO." But as noted, academia is like a cartel, and these groups often control the allotment of goods (which in this case is publications and grants and occasionally jobs.) Sad Sad world.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 07, 2014 12:14 PM (GaqMa)

26 It is easier for a university -- or a corporation, as we've seen lately -- to just give in to the bully. As with so many ills, the Left is to blame for this one, too. I wasn't alive at the time, but I know there was once a day when the schoolyard bully Got His if he stepped over a line- usually by some other kid. But then came "zero tolerance" and "it takes two to fight" and other such BS. And then the ONLY thing you could do was give in to the bully- because you knew he'd beat the snot out of you, and you'd get in trouble if you defended yourself. Given your relative positions, this was a much bigger sacrifice for you. Now our institutions are inundated with two messages- 1- when a bully comes around, just give him your lunch money. 2- better to be the bully. As a direct consequence, we also have now where "bullying" has graduated to "aggravated assault" and now people are wringing their hands over "how could this possibly happen?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 07, 2014 12:14 PM (PYAXX)

27 Per ace's earlier comment regarding how the modern institutional left are never actually open and honest about what it is that they believe and practice, the "American Studies Association" should be far more accurately yclept the "Anti-American Studies Association".

It's great to see this particular little nest of them be taken down, but the left have embedded themselves like ticks all throughout higher education. The long march through the institutions, and all that.

It's going to take long hard years of activism and vigilance just to contain them, and keep the problem from getting any worse, much less rolling it back on any meaningful scale.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 07, 2014 12:15 PM (gqT4g)

28 I've written letters to OU that they'll never get a dime from me until they dump the Anita Hill Chair.

Posted by: Soona at January 07, 2014 12:15 PM (rJc6l)

29 I wasn't alive at the time, but I know there was once a day when the schoolyard bully Got His if he stepped over a line- usually by some other kid.

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Yup..... alot to be said for playground rules.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2014 12:15 PM (nELVU)

30 I saw Squeaky Wheels open for .38 Special in Baltimore in 1989

Posted by: Exit Ramp at January 07, 2014 12:15 PM (S+el1)

31 Those American Studis are worse than the filthy Scandis.

Posted by: Roy at January 07, 2014 12:15 PM (VndSC)

32 because the school has a zero tolerance policy for fighting "It takes two to fight!" "Yes! Because when one person does it, it's called 'a beating.'"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 07, 2014 12:16 PM (PYAXX)

33 good zing by Howie Carr: It took hundreds of years for the Catholic church to come up with 'plenary indulgence.' Al Gore came up with it in a couple years...as 'carbon credits.'

Posted by: soothie at January 07, 2014 12:16 PM (J5lvw)

34 20 I know that teacher you're talking about. Great math teacher, great guy. He taught at my kids school here in Florida, again a Catholic school.

Posted by: flmom at January 07, 2014 12:17 PM (nSjrf)

35

When one says UT, generally that means UT, Austin. This is UT Dallas.

Posted by: dan-O at January 07, 2014 12:17 PM (D0bIN)

36 I can't believe a University would do this. Really. I'm crushed.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at January 07, 2014 12:17 PM (V2m7a)

37 I guess for me what makes me mad about the Catholic high school and the gay vice principal is why would he work there anyway? It isn't like we are lacking other schools, public and private, here. And the jackass students are all "tolerance, no h8, this is just like Apartheid!"

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 12:17 PM (RZ8pf)

This is in Austin. I expect some slight symbolic pushback.

Posted by: polynikes at January 07, 2014 12:17 PM (m2CN7)

39 <i>But what if Squeaky Wheels stopped getting so much grease? What if they instead got a swift kick to the axel and were told they'd better stop squeaking so shrilly or they'd be rubbished?</i>

The Japanese have an expression: "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down." It does have a certain ring to it.

Posted by: Matt at January 07, 2014 12:17 PM (XdW+k)

40 OT breaking news:

"Research Ship Trapped in Antarctic Ice Because of Weather, Not Climate Change"--headline, Guardian website (London), Jan. 3

Well, I'm glad we got that straight.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 07, 2014 12:18 PM (Hx5uv)

41 It's also time to respond angrily when the left calls you a racist. Don't let it go just because you know they don't really mean it. Confront them and shove it back in their faces. They wilt.

Posted by: BuckIV at January 07, 2014 12:18 PM (CLfqv)

42 i think Legal Insurrection mentioned that over half the university ASA says are members are NOT and asked to be removed from their list.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 07, 2014 12:18 PM (0FSuD)

43 New android and iOS app NameTag lets you take a picture of a stranger and ID them. See someone you like? Take their pic and let NameTag find their social media profiles. See someone you hate? Same thing.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 07, 2014 12:18 PM (ZPrif)

And the new UT football coach may be the greatest ever, but I'll be damned if I can understand a word he says.

Posted by: polynikes at January 07, 2014 12:18 PM (m2CN7)

45 I see that Penn State Harrisburg -- where my sister got her American Science PhD -- has terminated it's membership with ASA because of the Israel boycott. Good for them!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at January 07, 2014 12:18 PM (4df7R)

46 ever out for blood, to STFU, keep a civil tongue, and make us all a nice sandwich in apology for their past sins.-Ace Too kind, bring me a sammich you leftist bitch whore

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 07, 2014 12:18 PM (HVff2)

>>The Japanese have an expression: "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down." It does have a certain ring to it.<<

No shit.

Posted by: IRS audit guy at January 07, 2014 12:18 PM (VndSC)

48
The Japanese have an expression: "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down." It does have a certain ring to it.

Posted by: Matt at January 07, 2014 04:17 PM (XdW+k)

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Sometimes.... the squeaky wheel gets.... replaced.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 07, 2014 12:19 PM (nELVU)

49 The People's Republic Of Austin will probably rescind it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 07, 2014 12:19 PM (DpEwG)

50 This is in Austin. I expect some slight symbolic pushback. UTD - Dallas.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 12:19 PM (8D0/R)

51 26 Now our institutions are inundated with two messages- 1- when a bully comes around, just give him your lunch money. 2- better to be the bully. True.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 12:19 PM (T0NGe)

52 Also, let's not get too worked up, this is NOT The University of Texas at Austin, this is the Dallas campus, a far cry from the real commie UT.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 07, 2014 12:19 PM (0FSuD)

53 "What if they instead got a swift kick to the axel..." Who is Axel? If it is someone associated with the American Studies Association then Ace has made one of the all-time great puns. If a typo, then the intent of the comment is still a Blue Ribbon winner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 07, 2014 12:19 PM (aDwsi)

54 Posted by: dan-O at January 07, 2014 04:17 PM (D0bIN) Good point. Ace, you might want to clear that up. As it is, it looks rather like saying "Berkley quit the ASA" when the real school was UC - Something-or-Other. UT (or, as it might be: t.u.) is not the same as UTD. Same system, different schools.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 07, 2014 12:19 PM (PYAXX)

55 2 Hook 'em Horns!!! ...never thought I'd be saying that.... And you're still not. If the head ewok had bothered to RTFA, he would have wrote that as University of Texas at Dallas. They're the Comets, and their colors are Flame Orange, Eco Green, and Brilliance White (?).

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 07, 2014 12:19 PM (1hM1d)

56 He may be a great guy, but the Catholic school has an employment contract that makes it clear that employees must follow the values of the Catholic church, and right now that means no gay marriage. It is that simple in my mind, he violated his contract.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 12:20 PM (RZ8pf)

57 The Japanese have an expression: "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down." It does have a certain ring to it. That'll learn Nagasaki & Hiroshima.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 12:20 PM (8D0/R)

58 When one says UT, generally that means UT, Austin. This is UT Dallas.

Posted by: dan-O at January 07, 2014 04:17 PM (D0bIN)

Thanks for clarifying for me.

Posted by: polynikes at January 07, 2014 12:20 PM (m2CN7)

59 Where can I see a list of members they claim, so that I know whether to write my alma mater or not.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 07, 2014 12:21 PM (WdbF7)

60 UT Dallas, not the same as moonbat central UT Austin. I'm sure there are a lot of dreadlocked dumbasses there who hate Israel.

Posted by: Sphynx at January 07, 2014 12:21 PM (OZmbA)

61 No squeaks louder than the Gheys at GLAAD

Between hate chicken and Duck Dynasty, I'm not sure GLAAD's "gay card" is accepted anywhere anymore. I mean, when three major corporations with modern HR departments (Under Armour, then Cracker Barrel, and finally Disney) decide to defy you, you clearly lack credibility.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2014 12:21 PM (B/VB5)

When one says UT, generally that means UT, Austin. This is UT Dallas.
Posted by: dan-O at January 07, 2014 04:17 PM (D0bIN)

I hear "UT" and think "urinary tract."

But my brain's an odd place.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at January 07, 2014 12:21 PM (4df7R)

63 >>Where can I see a list of members they claim, so that I know whether to write my alma mater or not. Follow the first link.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 07, 2014 12:22 PM (g1DWB)

This is terrible! How are Left-wing academics supposed to get their Jew-Hate on if universities and colleges start living up to what they say they believe in?

sarc/

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Have a Querulous New Year from the Outrage Outlet at January 07, 2014 12:22 PM (hLRSq)

65 Posted by: Nip Sip at January 07, 2014 04:18 PM (0FSuD) Yeah, interesting trick they pulled there. Anyone who subscribed to the ASA journal got listed as a member group. Even though they wrote their checks to the journal publisher, not the ASA. At least when I signed up to go to CPACSTL, they told me up front I was getting a membership to the ACU.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 07, 2014 12:22 PM (GaqMa)

66 Israel is not even the worst nation if you compare it only to the nations it borders. You would think academia could find some major human rights concerns in Egypt, Syria, or Saudi Arabia. Nope. Just da Jooooooooos!

Posted by: Beagle at January 07, 2014 12:22 PM (sOtz/)

67 Posted by: Beagle at January 07, 2014 04:22 PM (sOtz/) The Israelis are less likely to blow them up for being critical.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 07, 2014 12:23 PM (PYAXX)

68 Um...I could use a little grease. Just saying.

Posted by: Scott.Farkas at January 07, 2014 12:23 PM (vgIRn)

69 What da fuck is an American Studies Association, anyway. Other than hating Jews and Zionists, what do the claim to do?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 07, 2014 12:24 PM (vHRtU)

70 Hook 'Em! I'm proud that my old Alma stood tall but I have to echo upthread: The locals in Austin will do their best to have their 15 person screaming and marching protest on the local news the next few weeks. And unless things have changed since I was there I expect a big pushback from a lot of faculty.

Posted by: Daybrother is learning restraint at January 07, 2014 12:24 PM (WsLDj)

Israel is not even the worst nation if you compare it only to the nations it borders. You would think academia could find some major human rights concerns in Egypt, Syria, or Saudi Arabia.

It's the Bigotry of Low Expectations, written on a global scale.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at January 07, 2014 12:24 PM (4df7R)

72 I got a message from the University, regarding the confusion with the campus at Austin. Here's the message:

"This!... Is!... Dallas!"

Immediately after which, the ASA gets kicked into a cistern.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at January 07, 2014 12:24 PM (DMtT+)

73 If I tie in Israel's security protocols for flying can I go off topic and talk about that TSA cartoon in the sidebar? Holy fucking shit, man. I'd like to do a cartoon about what traveling with kids through the security theater tyranny really looks like. Give me Israel's brand of security any day.

Posted by: Lauren at January 07, 2014 12:24 PM (hFL/3)

74 Let me be the first Aggie to salute UT for this.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 07, 2014 12:24 PM (AskuI)

75 UT sucks ass anyway. They never would have been a member unless it was left wing organization. I guess they just went too far, or were too open about their anti-Jewish stance.

Posted by: maddogg at January 07, 2014 12:25 PM (xWW96)

76 How is Israel a beleaguered nation?

Posted by: Titanium at January 07, 2014 12:25 PM (JLKJJ)

77 I'm sure the left is already loading up busses of poop-flinging monkeys to have a nice old protest on campus.

Posted by: Roy at January 07, 2014 12:25 PM (VndSC)

78 When one says UT, generally that means UT, Austin. This is UT Dallas.

So we can still hate on Mack Brown and the Horns. Sweet.

I'm in the process of registering for classes to finish my degree at UNC-CH. Finally. I know, I know y'all don't have to say it.... But I'm interested and a little scared to see just how much farther left it's gone in the last 10 years. I plan to keep my head down and give the prof what they want to hear, my grades have already suffered enough for having opposing opinions supported by facts. Fuckin' lib professors.

Posted by: NC Ref at January 07, 2014 12:25 PM (Myqtp)

79 Hook 'Em! I'm proud that my old Alma stood tall but I have to echo upthread: Not the Horns. UTD.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 07, 2014 12:25 PM (PYAXX)

>>I am hopeful for more backlash against this odious, unamerican practice. It has become the standard move to give in to a bully when the bully issues a list of demands. It is easier for a university -- or a corporation, as we've seen lately -- to just give in to the bully.

.There are limits to everything, and I suspect this is the first limit the Academic World is going to be facing in a potentially long line of limits to come in the very near future.

We are already hearing ramblings from the Left on the "need" for everyone to go to College and hearing from the right on the coming "Debt Bomb" from College debt.

Posted by: Registered Voter at January 07, 2014 12:25 PM (nUbHY)

81 I got a message from the University, regarding the confusion with the campus at Austin. Here's the message: "This!... Is!... Dallas!" Tonight, we dine in hell! (Or Deep Ellum)

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 12:26 PM (8D0/R)

82 So we can still hate on Mack Brown and the Horns. Well, you can hate on Mack Brown, and you can hate on the Horns, but you can't hate on "Mack Brown and the Horns" anymore.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 07, 2014 12:26 PM (PYAXX)

83 Tonight, we dine in hell! (Or Deep Ellum) Mmmm... Twisted Root Hamburger Co.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 07, 2014 12:27 PM (PYAXX)

84 76 How is Israel a beleaguered nation? Posted by: Titanium at January 07, 2014 04:25 PM (JLKJJ) Cuz they are joos silly poster

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 07, 2014 12:27 PM (HVff2)

85 Some very good universities have rejected the ban, like Georgetown. Although not quit over it

Posted by: thunderb at January 07, 2014 12:27 PM (bx2M/)

86 I'm proud that my old Alma stood tall but I have to echo upthread: The locals in Austin will do their best to have their 15 person screaming and marching protest on the local news the next few weeks. And unless things have changed since I was there I expect a big pushback from a lot of faculty.

Posted by: Daybrother is learning restraint at January 07, 2014 04:24 PM (WsLDj)

As mentioned at LI's link, most universities are leaving it up to their individual American Studies departments to decide whether or not to terminate their membership. So while there are probably faculty members who are unhappy with the decision, at the very least it was probably a decision made locally and not imposed by some faceless administration.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at January 07, 2014 12:27 PM (4df7R)

87 Oh my. Katie Pavich on Cavuto.

Posted by: Soona at January 07, 2014 12:27 PM (rJc6l)

88 How is Israel a beleaguered nation?

The Russians, the Muslims, the EU, and half the Obama Administration want them to cease to exist. For differing reasons, sure, but the outcome is always the same.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2014 12:27 PM (B/VB5)

89 56 No argument here on that. In fact my eldest, 28 year old who believes that gays should marry, made the exact same point you have. The vice principle has made the situation what it is, after all he knew he was working for a Catholic institution. The fact is, he was very good at his job and should have no problem finding a similar position and probably would be paid better at a public school where his marital status would not be an issue.

Posted by: flmom at January 07, 2014 12:27 PM (nSjrf)

90 Hook 'Em! I'm proud that my old Alma stood tall but I have to echo upthread: Not the Horns. UTD. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 07, 2014 04:25 PM (PYAXX) Yup, it was the Univ of Texas at Dallas not Austin, but good anyway. However it is still disturbing that this comes not from the Arabs at the UN but from Americans, even if it is just liberals communists progressives and scum.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 07, 2014 12:27 PM (t3UFN)

91 Katie PAVLICH. Still..........

Posted by: Soona at January 07, 2014 12:28 PM (rJc6l)

92 let's not get too worked up, this is NOT The University of Texas at Austin, this is the Dallas campus
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You mean the city that killed JFK?

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 07, 2014 12:28 PM (Hx5uv)

93
Some surprising institutions on that list rejecting the boycott. Like most of the Ivy League, who I would have expected to stay silent, not endorsing the boycott but not being willing to publicly support Israel.

I'm disheartened to find that while the UC system and 7 of 10 campuses signed on to rejecting the boycott, my own school at UCSB hasn't weighed in. Hopefully they were too stoned to know there's a boycott in the first place. Hell, even UC Irvine came out against it, and they've had serious and very real problems with antisemitism.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2014 12:28 PM (TIIx5)

94 84 76 How is Israel a beleaguered nation?
Posted by: Titanium at January 07, 2014 04:25 PM (JLKJJ)

Cuz they are joos silly poster

Yeah, I actually typed out a response and then deleted it. No troll feeding zone and all.

Posted by: toby928© at January 07, 2014 12:28 PM (QupBk)

95 Is the American Studies Association a big deal? The moronic policy combined with mass membership defections makes it sound like you automatically become a member with every free subscription to "College News Magazine."

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 07, 2014 12:28 PM (+lsX1)

96 Good job UT. Obviously this wasn't the faculty deciding this, they hate them some Israel....

Posted by: brak at January 07, 2014 12:28 PM (iEoiA)

97 NC Ref - Remember the Good Old Days, when there was an outright, in-writing, ban on communist speakers at UNC? Good days, good days.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 07, 2014 12:29 PM (aDwsi)

98 64 OT, but Tangonine, my response in the other thread to your "you're kidding" question:

Not at all. I have a CW3 buddy whose son just went through basic at Fort
Sill. He was appalled. His kid asked him to send "some good TP, because
I don't like this stuff they have here." CW3 friend told him to suck it
up and stop being a pussy. Son asked his grandmother for the same, and
she sent it. He got to keep and use it. He also had sent to him: burned
CDs for the barracks boom box and cough drops...because they aren't
allowed candy, but they can have cough drops. Did he write letters to
request this stuff? Nope. Text messages and Facebook posts.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 07, 2014 03:04 PM (L8r/r)

Years and years ago I had a kid step off the bus. Mikey Nunez. I remember the names of maybe 5 of the 2500 troops I pushed Mike is one of them.

LA gangbanger, attitude for a mile.

So it's day 2 of training. Texas. 100 degrees and 95% humidity. I'm teaching these kids how to walk (i.e. drill). Mike decides the best plan is to tell me to go F myself.

Now, as an NCO, and a seasoned DI, you pause when things like this occur.

Normally I don't take up an officer's time with silliness, but I walked Mike into the command section, while laughing. I sat him down and asked him how he was going to explain to his mother that he was too stupid to make it through 48 hours of basic training. Briefed the CC and left.

FF to graduation. Nunez is my best squad leader. He's applied to be a forward air controller or pararescue (similar selection process, at the time). Back to the commander because he needs a blood waiver due to an iron deficiency. The *one* and only time I went out of my way to assist a trainee.

A day 3 troop was sitting next to Nunez when I sat him down to wait for the commander to sign the waiver. Day 3 troop did something stupid, don't remember exactly what, but I corrected him (read that as you will). Evidently, when I walked away, Day 3 troop gave me the finger. Nunez beat his ass on the spot.

I didn't find out about this until he was in PJ school making staples (if you don't get the reference, that's ok).

Don't know what became of him.

Posted by: tangonine at January 07, 2014 12:29 PM (x3YFz)

This is very encouraging!

Also helpful to me as I start the college search for my daughter. Any U. that signed on to that boycott is automatically off our list.

Posted by: rockmom at January 07, 2014 12:29 PM (Q4elb)

100 I see my Cornell isn't acting a foll like UT.

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at January 07, 2014 12:29 PM (DpEwG)

101 Give us all of your grant monies or we'll kill your grannies with another Polar Vortex. You've been warned.

Posted by: Climate Change Consortium at January 07, 2014 12:29 PM (TKFmG)

102 Make us a sandwich you say at the end of your little screed? I think we all know what your want to do after that to some poor consenting, but not really, woman. Down with the patriarchy! Unless you're talking furburger, then I'm totally down for that.

Posted by: PIV Lady at January 07, 2014 12:29 PM (hth4g)

103 How is Israel a beleaguered nation?

Being surrounded by enemies who want them wiped off the map and constantly facing terrorist attacks from their neighbors doesn't meet your definition of beleaguered?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 07, 2014 12:29 PM (SY2Kh)

104 So a couple of things: The American Studies Association is a typical academic society. Individual dues are up to $125/yr depending on salary but for most working profs, that's the amount. But the "institutional membership" is $170/yr. That's it! "Membership includes subscriptions to American Quarterly, the Encyclopedia of American Studies Online, and to the ASA E-Newsletter (quarterly publication). Membership also includes discounts on association services and publications." University Libraries are loathe to reject a publication and $170/yr is chump change. Departments have more in their budget for coffee filters than this. So with these professional organizations, it's easy to (1) convince the librarian that it's a better deal to pay the $170 than subscribe to any one of those publications (2) convince the department chair to part with a few bucks for "institutional membership" or (3) just pay the $170 out of your own pocket. Until recently, the ASA looked like a perfectly responsible professional organization so if you, as a prof, offered to pay the institutional membership out of your own pocket, who would object?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 12:29 PM (T0NGe)

105 I see my Cornell isn't acting a FOOL like UT.

I don't write good.

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at January 07, 2014 12:29 PM (DpEwG)

106 How is Israel a beleaguered nation?
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I'm just spitballing here but it might have something to do with the millions of genocidal kill-crazy lunatics that are launching suicide attacks and firing rockets into Israel. But that's just me.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 07, 2014 12:30 PM (Hx5uv)

107 http://tinyurl.com/q2rxrzg

Incoming American Studies Association president supports Israel boycot

Lisa Duggan, a social and cultural analysis professor at New York University, told the New York Post she is Â“fully supportiveÂ” of the boycott,

Duggan -- "homonormative" lesbian and guest author of "The Nation" ragazine.

Go figure.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 07, 2014 12:30 PM (0It32)

108 Oh yeah oops my bad.

Posted by: NC Ref at January 07, 2014 12:30 PM (Myqtp)

109

>>>What da fuck is an American Studies Association, anyway. Other than hating Jews and Zionists, what do the claim to do?

They study America, or as they put it, 'Muricah. Or AmeriKKKa. And they have concluded that the Jews have never contributed anything to the USA and are, instead, parasites. Because we're the Fascists or something.

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at January 07, 2014 12:30 PM (3ZtZW)

110

How is Israel a beleaguered nation?

beleaguered - to lay seige to, to harass

Having rockets shot into your country frequently by terrorists, having to build a wall to keep out homicide bombers, having to defend yourself against surrounding countries that have declared that you should be pushed into the sea.

I think that pretty much covers the definition of beleaguered.

Posted by: polynikes at January 07, 2014 12:31 PM (m2CN7)

111 Posted by: toby928Â© at January 07, 2014 04:28 PM (QupBk You could have posted you have interesting insights

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 07, 2014 12:31 PM (HVff2)

112

I am surprised to see UC Berkley and a few other universities on this list. They must have some wealthy donors that they don't want to lose.

Yea, I am that cynical now.

Posted by: Cheri at January 07, 2014 12:31 PM (G+Wff)

113 This announcement comes on the same day the Dutch national soccer team announced that they were forced to leave one of their players, and Israeli citizen, of a trip to Dubai. He was refused entry because of his Israeli citizenship.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 07, 2014 12:31 PM (g1DWB)

114 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at January 07, 2014 04:27 PM (4df7R) Eh, I'm of two minds for that. Ideally your administration should not be faceless to it's individual programs. After all the individual programs do ostensibly speak for the university as well. I could see where a university might have a program that's a little bit rogue they tell to shove it, they aren't joining (or staying with) this group. Especially because this boycott affects more than just American Studies Departments (especially if you have a Theology Department for example.) So the University may want to send a message on behalf of non American Studies departments. On the flip side, I recognize not all things are ideal. After all I come from a university where the former president made Obama look like a constrained executive.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 07, 2014 12:31 PM (GaqMa)

115 A lot of the Ivy's get Arab oil money and have study abroad in Egypt etc.

Posted by: thunderb at January 07, 2014 12:32 PM (bx2M/)

116 I saw the Dallas Cisterns do a season opener in OKC back in 1987

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at January 07, 2014 12:33 PM (3ZtZW)

117

Incoming American Studies Association president supports Israel boycot

Lisa Duggan, a social and cultural analysis professor at New York
University, told the New York Post she is Â“fully supportiveÂ” of the
boycott,

Duggan -- "homonormative" lesbian and guest author of "The Nation" ragazine.

Go figure.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 07, 2014 04:30 PM (0It32)

This is why my son is not at NYU. One of his best friends went there and lasted only a year. He could not deal with the liberal bullshit there, especially for $60k a year.

Posted by: rockmom at January 07, 2014 12:33 PM (NYnoe)

118 Heh. I think it's safe to say Egypt's best days are behind her.

Posted by: maddogg at January 07, 2014 12:33 PM (xWW96)

119 Eh, still can't find a list of ASA institutional members. They seem to be nonexistent.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 07, 2014 12:34 PM (WdbF7)

120 I am surprised to see UC Berkley and a few other universities on this list. They must have some wealthy donors that they don't want to lose.

Generally you wouldn't expect the sort of Jewish person who donates to UC Berzerk to be pro-Israel.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2014 12:34 PM (B/VB5)

121 Mike Hammer...no I don't, came to Carolina when Mack was there, but it sounds like good times. I did get to hang out with some of Jesse Helms' office staff for a while back in the day...isn't he the one that suggested the fence?

Posted by: NC Ref at January 07, 2014 12:34 PM (Myqtp)

122 @76 Just being tiny and surrounded by many more people frothing with a religious zeal to, acquiring the means to, and repeatedly trying to kill them counts as "beleaguered" I think. Being under constant siege is the word origin.

Posted by: Beagle at January 07, 2014 12:34 PM (sOtz/)

123 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2014 04:28 PM (TIIx5) I didn't expect WashU to reject the boycott either. But, actually I think they get a lot of visiting students and scholars (and thus money) from Israel so it's probably in their best interest to tell the ASA to shove it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 07, 2014 12:34 PM (GaqMa)

124 A lot of the Ivy's get Arab oil money and have study abroad in Egypt etc. Posted by: thunderb at January 07, 2014 04:32 PM (bx2M/) The more intellectually snobbish, historically challenged, and morally corrupt....the more anti-semitic they are

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 07, 2014 12:34 PM (t3UFN)

125 You could have posted you have interesting insights

Well thank you, but not in this case. Either the commenter is 15, or he's been sleepwalking through history, or he's just trying to set up for some Zionism is apartheid rant. In any of these cases, they have nothing to contributes so I decided not to encourage them.

Posted by: toby928© at January 07, 2014 12:34 PM (QupBk)

126 Wait, I'm sorry. "homonormative"? What the hell does that mean? That homosexuality is the normal state of sexuality? Because if so that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I mean, be gay all you wan't, but don't pretend that it's the "normal" way to be, what with the inability to reproduce and all. And if it's not what "homonormative" means, eh, don't tell me. The name is stupid enough to riff on that I don't particularly care about the details.

Posted by: Lauren at January 07, 2014 12:34 PM (hFL/3)

127 Flmom, yes it is sad because it sounds like he is an excellent educator. I am most angry at how the typical groups are using the students to turn this into a huge deal. But, what can I expect, several of the Catholic schools here have LGBT groups and one has a Muslim Student Union. Not exactly old school Catholic around these parts.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 12:35 PM (RZ8pf)

128 He could not deal with the liberal bullshit there, especially for $60k a year. Posted by: rockmom at January 07, 2014 04:33 PM

Heh - I couldn't deal with conservative bullshit at $60k.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 07, 2014 12:35 PM (0It32)

129 Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 04:29 PM (T0NGe) I suspect this is why you're seeing several institutions saying "listen, we just get the journal."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 07, 2014 12:36 PM (GaqMa)

130 I mean, be gay all you wan't, but don't pretend that it's the "normal" way to be, what with the inability to reproduce and all.

That's pretty much PIV Woman's point too, no? That heterosexual sex is not normal.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2014 12:36 PM (B/VB5)

131 Or what they said while I was typing on this stupid phone.

Posted by: Beagle at January 07, 2014 12:37 PM (sOtz/)

132 .isn't he the one that suggested the fence? Posted by: NC Ref ------------------ Don't know, but it sounds in character. I liked Jesse..., a *lot*

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 07, 2014 12:37 PM (aDwsi)

133 "homonormative"?

What the hell does that mean? That homosexuality is the normal state of sexuality?
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Doesn't seem to fit in too well with the theory of evolution.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 07, 2014 12:37 PM (Hx5uv)

134 It's fascinating the way lefties in these groups can see themselves as tolerant, open minded, and favoring diversity, while at the same time trying to shut down any individuals or groups that dare to disagree with them. I believe people at GLAAD know exactly what they are doing, and know that they are complete hypocrites. But a lot of lefty individuals are truly clueless about how GLAAD has set itself up as the thought police and the speech police.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 07, 2014 12:38 PM (rNHiK)

135 Yep, Ian. All PIV is rape and unnatural. Seriously, what happened to these women to make them like this? There's a therapist out there who needs a new vacation home, right?

Posted by: Lauren at January 07, 2014 12:38 PM (hFL/3)

136 "homonormative" lesbian Then she must oppose gay marriage. Marriage is heteronormative.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 12:38 PM (T0NGe)

137 Trolling aside, Israel is not "beleaguered," to the extent that they are threatened existentially.

Yes, the military and political threats are significant, unceasing, and ever-changing, but Israel has managed to handle them quite well since its founding.

In reality, my dislike of the word has everything to do with the suggestion that Israel is not in control of its destiny, and very little to do with the actual definition of the word.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo✡✡ at January 07, 2014 12:39 PM (QFxY5)

138 Is this a misspelling of The American Studs Association? Cause that is a whole different issue. They advocate for international sex tourism.

Posted by: Daybrother is learning restraint at January 07, 2014 12:39 PM (2Hska)

139 Homonormative? Now they are just making stuff up.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 12:39 PM (RZ8pf)

140 All PIV is rape and unnatural. Seriously, what happened to these women to make them like this?
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They are insulated from reality.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 07, 2014 12:39 PM (Hx5uv)

141 127 It could be that's why he moved to Seattle, thinking the Catholic schools there were more Progressive than here in Florida. I still have one child left at the school he taught and there isn't an LGBT group here and isn't likely to be in the near future.

Posted by: flmom at January 07, 2014 12:39 PM (nSjrf)

142 "homonormative"?

What the hell does that mean? That homosexuality is the normal state of sexuality?

It doesn't mean anything. She thinks she's being clever by adopting the opposite of 'heteronormative'. She's not.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 07, 2014 12:40 PM (SY2Kh)

143 20---- We are experiencing one of those bully things here right now. A catholic high school dismissed its vice principal after he revealed he married his partner. Now another gay person who sometimes works for the school is worried because she is engaged to her partner. The students are riled up and protesting, the gay community is up in arms and it has become a "thing." essentially everyone is trying to bully the Catholic school to change its employment stance but if that doesn't work they want to shut the school down for being intolerant. Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 04:12 PM (RZ8pf) ------------------------------------------ Dang. I worked for a Baptist school many, many years ago. They were against smoking, drinking, and dancing --- all of which I did back then with gusto. I signed a contract not to do them. Teacher as role model, y'no. Okay, I cheated on the smoking. The drinking and dancing I only did when I was waaay out of town. I loved the school and students but just couldn't be a cheater like that anymore. So I left. Now you tell me the school was actually practicing apartheid and probably genocide and lynching and H8TING! I should have stayed, brought a flask of bourbon to work and blown smoke in their faces while dancing salsa.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 07, 2014 12:40 PM (dfYL9)

144 my dislike of the word has everything to do with the suggestion that Israel is not in control of its destiny, and very little to do with the actual definition of the word. You wouldn't be saying that if we were playing Scrabble.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2014 12:40 PM (cQ2Q9)

145 Yep, Ian. All PIV is rape and unnatural. Seriously, what happened to these women to make them like this? Daddy didn't pay enough attention to the princess?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 12:40 PM (8D0/R)

146 ahhh, Ann Coulter is so cute; I love her laugh so, what are yall blabbin about now?

Posted by: soothie at January 07, 2014 12:41 PM (J5lvw)

147 Marriage is heteronormative.

I'm old enough to remember when marriage was a repressive tool of the breeder straights.

Posted by: toby928© at January 07, 2014 12:41 PM (QupBk)

148 Doesn't seem to fit in too well with the theory of evolution.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 07, 2014 04:37 PM (Hx5uv)

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You're just a bastard, Mr. Man.

Posted by: Anti-PIV girl at January 07, 2014 12:41 PM (rJc6l)

149 Doesn't seem to fit in too well with the theory of evolution.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 07, 2014 04:37 PM (Hx5uv)

Actually it does, if you assume that heterosexual sex is aberrant behavior (PIV is rape) that is favored genetically because of the distortions of the violence inherent in heterosexuality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2014 12:41 PM (QFxY5)

150 Does it follow that 'homoabnormative' is a definable state?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 07, 2014 12:41 PM (aDwsi)

151 It doesn't mean anything. She thinks she's being clever by adopting the opposite of 'heteronormative'. She's not.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 07, 2014 04:40 PM

That pretty well tells it.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 07, 2014 12:41 PM (0It32)

152 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo✡✡ at January 07, 2014 04:39 PM (QFxY5 I've always thought it meant "surrounded by enemies" or "under constant threat of attack." Which, is true, and has nothing to do with how well you are capable of dealing with such a situation (which in Israel's case is Teh Awesomes.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 07, 2014 12:42 PM (GaqMa)

153 Daddy didn't pay enough attention to the princess?

I'm thinking too much, IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: toby928© at January 07, 2014 12:42 PM (QupBk)

154 Margarita, only if you were a Homonormative lesbian too. Otherwise you wouldn't get the support of the media and the progressive bully troops.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 12:42 PM (RZ8pf)

155 Israel is not "beleaguered," to the extent that they are threatened existentially. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo✡✡ at January 07, 2014 04:39 PM (QFxY5) They are close to being and will be threatened existentially the minute Iran goes nuclear.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 07, 2014 12:42 PM (t3UFN)

156 135 Yep, Ian. All PIV is rape and unnatural. Seriously, what happened to these women to make them like this? There's a therapist out there who needs a new vacation home, right?

Posted by: Lauren at January 07, 2014 04:38 PM (hFL/3)

I'm slow on the uptake. "PIV" is an acronym I've seen here recently but am unfamiliar with.

Penguins Initiating Violence?
Peanuts Insisting Victory?

Need some help here.

Posted by: tangonine at January 07, 2014 12:43 PM (x3YFz)

157 Look up Homonormative Lisa online and take a look at the pics. That'll tell you everything you need to know. And no I'm not linking it. I don't want the responsibility.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 07, 2014 12:43 PM (oFCZn)

158 Here is the list of institutional members as of 2013: http://tinyurl.com/muxh7y7 But it's a very small list. The American Mathematical Society has 550 institutional members, for example.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 12:43 PM (T0NGe)

159 You wouldn't be saying that if we were playing Scrabble.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2014 04:40 PM (cQ2Q9)

I lost a game of Scrabble in college, because I challenged the word "suet," since that is clearly not how "suit" is spelled.

It was 5:00am, and yes, I was hammered.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2014 12:43 PM (QFxY5)

160 Doesn't seem to fit in too well with the theory of evolution.

I forget the formal name, but there's a well-known rule that liberals don't actually believe anything they preach. Evolution is front and center there between the trial lawyers lobby and the LGBTs.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2014 12:43 PM (B/VB5)

161 This may be homonormative, I'm not sure. It is if "homonormative" completely bass-ackwards.

"An earlier version of a map with this article reversed the locations of North and South Dakota."--New York Times, Jan. 4

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 07, 2014 12:43 PM (Hx5uv)

162 The American Mathematical Society has 550 institutional members, for example.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 04:43 PM (T0NGe)

And almost half have members who have had intercourse with a live woman!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2014 12:44 PM (QFxY5)

163 I'm slow on the uptake. "PIV" is an acronym I've seen here recently but am unfamiliar with.

Read last night's ONT post.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2014 12:44 PM (B/VB5)

164 150 Does it follow that 'homoabnormative' is a definable state?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 07, 2014 04:41 PM (aDwsi)

The new Moron term: "Hobonormative."

Posted by: tangonine at January 07, 2014 12:44 PM (x3YFz)

165 Did the rest have intercourse with dead women?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 12:44 PM (RZ8pf)

166 **shifty eyes**

Posted by: The toaster at January 07, 2014 12:45 PM (QupBk)

167 Thank you to all (MWR, AllanG, et al, who corrected me. "Links? We don't need to read no stinking links!"

Posted by: Daybrother is learning restraint at January 07, 2014 12:45 PM (+ih/O)

168 Heh. I think it's safe to say Egypt's best days are behind her.

It's been downhill ever since they got the pyramid worked out.

Posted by: Khufu at January 07, 2014 12:45 PM (8ZskC)

169 Read last night's ONT post.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2014 04:44 PM (B/VB5)

eh... I don't care enough.

Posted by: tangonine at January 07, 2014 12:45 PM (x3YFz)

170 I'm slow on the uptake. "PIV" is an acronym I've seen here recently but am unfamiliar with. Penguins Initiating Violence? Peanuts Insisting Victory? Need some help here. Posted by: tangonine Penis In Vagina.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 12:45 PM (8D0/R)

171 tango - I am using that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 07, 2014 12:45 PM (aDwsi)

172 It's hobonormative to have sex with dead women.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 07, 2014 12:45 PM (vHRtU)

173 Did the rest have intercourse with dead women? ...and is it still rape?

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2014 12:45 PM (cQ2Q9)

174 127---- several of the Catholic schools here have LGBT groups and one has a Muslim Student Union. Not exactly old school Catholic around these parts. Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 04:35 PM (RZ8pf) --------------------------- Ah. Pelosi "Catholics." What's next? Junior Planned Parenthood?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 07, 2014 12:46 PM (dfYL9)

175 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 07, 2014 04:42 PM (t3UFN)

I think that Israel will never be threatened existentially until they suffer the same series of setbacks that we have here in America.

They have land-based ballistic missiles, bomber-carried nukes, and submarine ballistic missiles.

It is my strong and heartfelt belief that they will strike first.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2014 12:46 PM (QFxY5)

176 After a long enough time, the squeaky wheel gets "greased."

Posted by: fb at January 07, 2014 12:46 PM (JVEmw)

177 It's rape if it's a dead woman, but not if it's a dead man...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 07, 2014 12:46 PM (vHRtU)

178 The American Mathematical Society has 550 institutional members, for example. Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 04:43 PM (T0NGe) And almost half have members who have had intercourse with a live woman! And three quarters who haven't!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 12:47 PM (8D0/R)

179 Reading what Robert Gates has written, I am inclined to see him as a purely mediocre mind. How in the hell did Mr. Run of the mill ever get to such high position? Heh, well then I look at who's POTUS..........

Posted by: maddogg at January 07, 2014 12:47 PM (xWW96)

180 PIV = Peruvian information voter?

Posted by: dantesed at January 07, 2014 12:47 PM (88xKn)

181 eh... I don't care enough.

Trust me, it's a meme you want to have read the actual source material for, because it's so batshit crazy it crosses over into being unintentionally hilarious.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2014 12:47 PM (B/VB5)

182

Apparently this is the U. of Texas-Dallas, not the whole system.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 07, 2014 12:47 PM (TOk1P)

183 It's been downhill ever since they got the pyramid worked out. Posted by: Khufu ------------------ Yeah..., it was those damned plagues. I blame the Joooos.

Posted by: Ozymandias at January 07, 2014 12:47 PM (aDwsi)

184

>>>All PIV is rape and unnatural

On my days off, I like to get all rapey and unnatural

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at January 07, 2014 12:47 PM (3ZtZW)

185 In any of these cases, they have nothing to contributes so I decided not to encourage them. Posted by: toby928Â© at January 07, 2014 04:34 PM (QupBk) Hide posts from (QupBk) Lonely some days, ain't it?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 07, 2014 12:47 PM (qyfb5)

186 A&M getting too much love and they had to react. This is pretty surprising but much appreciated.

Posted by: DanMan at January 07, 2014 12:48 PM (RusNE)

187 Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 04:43 PM (T0NGe Heh, I see my alama Mater (and current place of Doctoral work, one in the same) is on that list. and I haven't heard boo from them. Granted, they seem very sympathetic to Palestine (although Netanyahu did talk there when I was an undergrad)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 07, 2014 12:48 PM (GaqMa)

188 Don't you all know that if men just stopped putting there P's in our V's we'd have world peace or something!

Posted by: Homornormative Lauren at January 07, 2014 12:48 PM (hFL/3)

189 It is my strong and heartfelt belief that they will strike first. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo -------------- It has happened before, more than once.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 07, 2014 12:48 PM (aDwsi)

190 Reading what Robert Gates has written, I am inclined to see him as a purely mediocre mind. How in the hell did Mr. Run of the mill ever get to such high position?

How ya doin?

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at January 07, 2014 12:48 PM (8ZskC)

191 "On my days off, I like to get all rapey and unnatural" and Crowny and steaky

Posted by: DanMan at January 07, 2014 12:49 PM (RusNE)

192 Doesn't seem to fit in too well with the theory of evolution. Posted by: WalrusRex at January 07, 2014 04:37 PM (Hx5uv) Darwin hates gays. Seriously, the persistence of chunks of the population uninterested in breeding tends to put a damper on the whole theory of evolution. I have to wonder what gays think when they hear things like, "Men evolved to prefer boobies," etc. Actually it does, if you assume that heterosexual sex is aberrant behavior (PIV is rape) that is favored genetically because of the distortions of the violence inherent in heterosexuality. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2014 04:41 PM (QFxY5) I only know what I see on the Internet, but it seems to me that lesbian sex will involve quite a lot of the same sort of "violence", except with hand-held devices of varying technological sophistication.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 12:49 PM (T0NGe)

193

Did the rest have intercourse with dead women?

...and is it still rape?

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2014 04:45 PM (cQ2Q9)

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Not according to the muzzies. To them it's a loving send-off.

Posted by: Soona at January 07, 2014 12:49 PM (rJc6l)

194 154 Margarita, only if you were a Homonormative lesbian too. Otherwise you wouldn't get the support of the media and the progressive bully troops. Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 04:42 PM (RZ8pf) --------------------- You are so right. The Left itself hates smoking. It's pretty neutral on drinking and dancing, I guess, though I'd surely get some points for salsa. But, yeah, I'd have to learn to lead and do it with a chick!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 07, 2014 12:50 PM (dfYL9)

195 178 The American Mathematical Society has 550 institutional members, for example.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 04:43 PM (T0NGe)

And almost half have members who have had intercourse with a live woman!

And three quarters who haven't!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 04:47 PM (8D0/R)

In grad school, we had a mathematician who flacidly insisted (now there's two fun words to put together) on modeling six dependent variables in Excel. Rest of us used C++, but he was determined.

And he got it wrong.

Posted by: tangonine at January 07, 2014 12:50 PM (x3YFz)

196 The Oxo Good Grip Turkey Baster with No Drip Tip will save the species from PIV Rape.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 07, 2014 12:50 PM (vHRtU)

197 Is there a Medical Device tax on turkey basters?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 07, 2014 12:51 PM (aDwsi)

198 What you said right there.

Posted by: MoronNormative at January 07, 2014 12:51 PM (xERlB)

199

>>>...and is it still rape?

Better dead than Red.

No wait. Dead vag is still vag, so YES. Rapey as rape can be.

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at January 07, 2014 12:51 PM (3ZtZW)

200 Scissoring is a wholesome and not aggressive act.

Posted by: The toaster and other major appliances agree at January 07, 2014 12:52 PM (QupBk)

201 132 .isn't he the one that suggested the fence? Posted by: NC Ref Yes, Jesse suggested Chapel Hill be walled in, from CBS obit which as you can imagine is not very faltering. Over the next decade, Helms offered editorial messages, broadcast after the nightly newscasts, which were decidedly ideological - in one, he proposed building a wall around UNC-Chapel Hill (which he dubbed "the University of Negroes and Communists") to contain its "liberal" influence.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 07, 2014 12:52 PM (0FSuD)

202 Not according to the muzzies. To them it's a loving send-off.

Penis In Goat is acceptable to allah even if the acronym is not.

Posted by: Achmed the Terrorist at January 07, 2014 12:52 PM (8ZskC)

203 CBD If Israel is not threatened existentially no nation is. People all over the world in their "anti-Zionist" frenzy are doing reverse Nazi salutes. Jews are being driven from Europe people "oppose Zionism" so much.

Posted by: Beagle at January 07, 2014 12:53 PM (sOtz/)

204 I'm just going to pick up my feathers and leave now.

Posted by: The Chicken at January 07, 2014 12:53 PM (x3YFz)

205 It is my strong and heartfelt belief that they will strike first.

Like Fox Mulder, I want to believe. But they're being worn down by their left and media over there too, and their Overton window started off to the left of ours. Netanyahu still doesn't seem to completely understand that Obama would be perfectly fine with Israel ceasing to exist.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2014 12:53 PM (B/VB5)

206 They're also sexist because the don't offer a PhD in African American midwifery in Alice Walker novels. Oh and racist.

Posted by: Sholanda Yomequeeta at January 07, 2014 12:53 PM (Aif/5)

207 Is it still rape if the "p" is actually a "d"? Does it matter if it is self inflicted?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 07, 2014 12:53 PM (RZ8pf)

208 Heh, I see my alama Mater (and current place of Doctoral work, one in the same) is on that list. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 07, 2014 04:48 PM (GaqMa) Don't read into it. I think ASA was a normal professional org before all of this and becoming an institutional member is dirt cheap, so nobody would think anything of it. Personally, I'm glad the ASA is doubling down on this. Let the humanities kill themselves. It's about time college students get a real education.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 12:53 PM (T0NGe)

209 PIV=Penis In Vagina

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 07, 2014 12:55 PM (0FSuD)

210 In grad school, we had a mathematician who flacidly insisted (now there's two fun words to put together) on modeling six dependent variables in Excel. Rest of us used C++, but he was determined. And he got it wrong. Posted by: tangonine at January 07, 2014 04:50 PM (x3YFz) The fault, clearly, is with Excel.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 12:55 PM (T0NGe)

211 Penis In Goat is acceptable to allah even if the acronym is not. Then use PID, PIC, or PILB.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2014 12:56 PM (8D0/R)

212

>>>Is it still rape if the "p" is actually a "d"? Does it matter if it is self inflicted?

No, that's self-abuse.

Also, we've gone full circle back to the Victorian era now. REPRESS REPRESS

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at January 07, 2014 12:56 PM (3ZtZW)

213 DIV is a way that women abuse themselves because they have been colonized by men into thinking that they want such violation.

Posted by: Homornormative Lauren at January 07, 2014 12:56 PM (hFL/3)

214 209 PIV=Penis In Vagina

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 07, 2014 04:55 PM (0FSuD)

That required an acronym!?

(muttering)

Full rucks. 10 mile forced march.

NOW

Posted by: tangonine at January 07, 2014 12:57 PM (x3YFz)

215 Penis In Woman is Rape. Penis In Man is Homonormative. Woman In Woman is Love. Man In Man is Sex. Jews In ASA is Schizophrenic. Hobo In Corpse is Hobonormative. Chicken In Toaster is Burning Feathers.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 07, 2014 12:58 PM (vHRtU)

216 @214 You missed a thread on some lesbo's rant about PIV. I think it was a couple of days ago. It's now a favorite of the "fucking" horde.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 07, 2014 12:59 PM (0FSuD)

217 I keep reading this as the Amateur Softball Association.

Posted by: The toaster and other major appliances agree at January 07, 2014 12:59 PM (QupBk)

218 Tequila in OG is Overdue. Store run...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 07, 2014 12:59 PM (vHRtU)

219 "211 Penis In Goat is acceptable to allah even if the acronym is not. " Cherry coke zero on the computer screen.

Posted by: Homornormative Lauren at January 07, 2014 12:59 PM (hFL/3)

220 I've tried to explain mathematicians. The closest I can get is that mathematics, and being really good at it, is like being able to perfectly draw all 26 letters of the alphabet, but never being able to form a word.

A student last semester. Math major. 180 IQ. I gave her a C. Brilliant. Worthless.

Posted by: tangonine at January 07, 2014 01:02 PM (x3YFz)

221 Posted by: AmishDude at January 07, 2014 04:53 PM (T0NGe) I read into other things though. Like the large deference given to the Palestinian Student Association there (including the right to set up "mock Israeli checkpoints" that students had to walk through. No other organization was given the right to assault other students on campus. (And no, this does not mean I'm opposed to the Israeli checkpoints either, states have a right to protect their boarders.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 07, 2014 01:03 PM (GaqMa)

222 If the moronettes all go homonormative we're going to have trouble. I'll take a flamethrower to this place and cut some bitches.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 07, 2014 01:03 PM (oFCZn)

223 Posted by: Beagle at January 07, 2014 04:53 PM (sOtz/)

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2014 04:53 PM (B/VB5)

Israel is threatened constantly, but unless a very specific set of circumstances occur, I do not believe that the threats are existential -- IF Israel reacts appropriately.

And the Left in Israel is on the run. Yes, they are strong, but they have been proved wrong again and again, and the average Israeli is a bit tired of their bullshit "Can't we all just get along" mantra.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2014 01:03 PM (QFxY5)

224 I think that Israel will never be threatened existentially until they suffer the same series of setbacks that we have here in America.

They have land-based ballistic missiles, bomber-carried nukes, and submarine ballistic missiles.

They don't have bombers.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 07, 2014 01:05 PM (SY2Kh)

225 They don't have bombers.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 07, 2014 05:05 PM (SY2Kh)

I stand corrected, but....A distinction without a difference.

Aircraft-carried nuclear weapons. The ranges and needed payloads are such that a bomber isn't really needed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2014 01:07 PM (QFxY5)

226

>>They have land-based ballistic missiles, bomber-carried nukes, and submarine ballistic missiles.

It is my strong and heartfelt belief that they will strike first..

.They certainly have a history of First Strikes. 1967.

Posted by: Registered Voter at January 07, 2014 01:07 PM (xqjwP)

227 This school is in Richardson. It is a very fine school but it is not loony central in Austin but also is making the loons in Austin look bad.

Posted by: Lester at January 07, 2014 01:08 PM (2UPXV)

228 Actually it does, if you assume that heterosexual sex is aberrant behavior (PIV is rape) that is favored genetically because of the distortions of the violence inherent in heterosexuality. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2014 04:41 PM (QFxY5) Wow, you could teach university womyns studies classes.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 07, 2014 01:14 PM (rNHiK)

229 I've always wondered how 1940s Germany could have gone collectively insane in its Jew hatred, it just never made sense to me, and now I'm seeing it start to happen again in Europe and here. It must be fought, every opportunity we have. This IS a hill worth dying on.

Posted by: Socratease at January 07, 2014 01:14 PM (SZUi2)

230 Linked this @ EoZ's place; can I haz cookie?

Posted by: MtTB at January 07, 2014 01:17 PM (lQCe+)

231 Not Hook 'em Horns, rather Go Comets (whoosh)!

This is UT-Dallas, not the mother ship in Austin. Daughter attending UTD now (full ride thankfully) - it is relatively conservative (heavy emphasis on relatively).

Posted by: Tex at January 07, 2014 01:17 PM (iyK4L)

232 I saw Mack Brown and the Horns open for Earth, Wind, and Fire.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 07, 2014 01:34 PM (YEelc)

233 The Academic Left thinks they are the guardians of progressive liberal thought and expression. In reality, they have become the Catholic Church of AD 1500, and their foremost spokesmen are then new Inquisition.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 07, 2014 02:18 PM (lJaja)

234 I am totally down with them making us lots of sandwiches, seeing as how we're going to be smoking so much weed very soon.

Posted by: SGT Ted at January 07, 2014 06:05 PM (8+9WD)

235 I was suspicious when I clicked the link. Yep. UT *Dallas* not UT. The Austin hippies have quite a few faculty signatures on that ban.

Posted by: Mephistefales at January 07, 2014 06:12 PM (nI0Uy)

236 A good start for Texas. I'll be REALLY impressed when they invite Israeli Defense Industries to open a Merkava factory here...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 08, 2014 06:54 AM (XO6WW)

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