March 23, 2014
— Open Blogger

Good morning morons and moronettes and welcome to AoSHQ's prestigious Sunday Morning Book Thread.
All non-book discussions should go in to Andy's open thread below. Thank you.
Uncle Tom, We Hardly Knew Ye
We all know that the epithet 'Uncle Tom' is a much-used stock insult in the progressive left's toolkit of avoiding having to actually discuss issues. It is hurled at black men or women who stray from the progressive agenda, as if such deviation constitutes some an unacceptable betrayal of black people by another black person, a selling out to white privilege and hegemony.
But that sort of selling out bears little resemblance to the real Uncle Tom. Since I have never read 'Uncle Tom's Cabin', this blog post, Of Toms and Sambos put me some knowledge about the origins of this expression. It's worth reading the whole thing.
The author also encourages you to read the book:
Uncle TomÂ’s Cabin is an astonishing book that remains relevant even to this day, every American should read it, as should every Christian in the entire world. By design it is filled with types and archetypes. Uncle Tom, the protagonist of this allegory; is a type of Christ. Tom is the perfect Christian, in fact he is a super Christian...
I'm actually kind of ashamed I haven't read it. It is an important book in its time that greatly influenced events leading up to the Civil War, being the number one best-selling book other than the Bible. So I found this Kindle edition for 99 cents, which is actually part of a bundled collection, and it also contains '12 Years A Slave' by Solomon Northrup, Booker T. Washington's autobiography 'Up From Slavery', Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, and two other slave narratives, as well as Uncle Tom's Cabin.
'You Are Consumed With Hopelessness And Despair - Lose 25% Health'
Maybe this should go on the gaming thread. They're about to release a video game based on the novels of Franz Kafka. No, it's not an FPS, it sounds like you have to run around solving puzzles.
Here is the opening line for the Kafka short story 'Metamorphosis':
One morning, when Gregor Samsa woke from troubled dreams, he found himself transformed in his bed into a horrible vermin.
So the guy is now a bug. What a way to start the day,
The game ought to be a real hoot.
I can hardly believe there's a need for the instructional book How to Poo on a Date, but apparently there is. I know this because this book the winner of the 2014 Diagram Prize 2014 for Oddest Book Title of the Year, which is awarded by The Bookseller web site. Runner-ups include Are Trout South African? by Duncan Brown Pie-ography: Where Pie Meets Biography by Jo Packham; How to Pray When You're Pissed at God by Ian Punnett; and The Origin of Feces by David Walter-Toews.
The guys who wrote the poo book are also responsible for How to Poo at Work, another classic.
Mispronunciations
'Apron' used to be 'napron' and 'wasp' used to be 'waps'. So says this article on how pronunciation errors have changed the English language. Rebracketing, metathesis, and syncope, among others, are to blame. My personal disfavorite: 'nucular' for 'nuclear'. I've been hearing it for years, and it still sets my teeth on edge.
Nixon's the One!
I am amused at how much being a cheap bastard influences what I buy. For example, if I saw a Kindle edition of the first of a 3-volume biography of Richard Nixon selling for $12.99 or $13.99, i wouldn't even consider it. But when I see something like Nixon Volume I: The Education of a Politician 1913-1962 by Stephen E. Ambrose for $2.99, I snap it right up (although, dang it, I see the price is now back up to $12.74, so I guess there was some special sale going on that I just happened to catch. And I missed out on picking up Vols. 2 and 3 for the low $2.99 price).
Anyway, so I've read the first few chapters and here are some things about Richard Nixon that I either did not know or was only dimly aware of:
1. His background and upbringing were intensely religious. His father was a hootin'-and-hollerin' Methodist, very loud, very boisterous, very emotionally expressive, and his mother was an austere, very reserved Quaker lady. He had older relatives on her side of the family who used 'thee' and 'thou' in everyday speech. Most of this he gave up by the time he got to college.
2. He lost two brothers, Arthur and Harold, to tuberculosis. Not unusual in the days before antibiotics.
3. He worked his butt off. His father worked at a variety of occupations, and he enlisted his sons to help out wherever he could. Richard did both agricultural labor and helped run the family store, long grueling hours and there were never any vacations, ever. Contrast this with Choom Boy, who spent his high school years hanging out with his fellow slackers and getting high.
3. Dude was scary smart. At age 10, he was reading the daily newspaper and conversing about current events with adults. His memory was phenomenal, he read 'Tom Sawyer' so often that he had the 'whitewashing the fence' episode memorized, which he could recite, even decades later as an adult.
4. This is probably not that surprising for someone who grew up to be a politician, but in high school and college, he was a formidable debater. He could take his'n and beat your'n, and then take your'n and beat his'n.
5. In college, Nixon liked to act and perform in stage plays, and was so good at it that his drama coach believed that after he graduated, he would start looking for acting jobs in New York. One of the things actors need to know how to do is cry on cue. Nixon learned this lesson well:
Forty-five years later, Nixon told interviewer David Frost that he never cried except in public before an audience. When, in 1952, Eisenhower kept him on the ticket after the Checkers speech, Nixon put his head on Senator William Knowland’s shoulder and wept. Upton [Nixon's drama coach], watching on television, exclaimed, “That’s my boy! That’s my actor!"
I'm old enough to remember how badly the progressive left infected itself with "Nixon Derangement Syndrome", which, by comparison, makes "Bush Derangement Syndrome" seem like a mild cough. But I don't think they had any idea who he was. And, if I may indulge in a personal value judgment here, I much prefer Nixon, with all of his faults, to a bunch of self-important, ignorant hippies.
So yeah, I'm very much enjoying reading this biography.
Books of Note
I stumbled upon this one as I was looking for something else: Getting It Wrong: Ten of the Greatest Misreported Stories in American Journalism by W. Joseph Campbell. This is not some conservative guy attacking the liberal media, or a surly hippie complaining about corporations. Only 2 of the chapters deal with events that could be called current (Iraq and Katrina). The other ones, such as William Randolph Hearst sending a telegram allegedly promising to start a war, Edward Murrow's supposed takedown of McCarthy, and Woodward and Bernstein's alleged central role in exposing the Watergate scandal, are more or less past history. Or, as Campbell claims, myth. That is, the way these stories are commonly told is false and Campbell is claiming to set the record straight.
Also, the author, W. Joesph Campbell, is not the Joseph Campbell who wrote all of those books about religion. That was a different Joseph Campbell, and he's dead.
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Here's another book I ran into that might be interesting: Mission at Nuremberg: An American Army Chaplain and the Trial of the Nazis by Tim Townsend.
This pastor had a tough job:
Lutheran minister Henry Gerecke was fifty years old when he enlisted as am Army chaplain during World War II. As two of his three sons faced danger and death on the battlefield, Gerecke tended to the battered bodies and souls of wounded and dying GIs outside London. At the warÂ’s end, when other soldiers were coming home, Gerecke was recruited for the most difficult engagement of his life: ministering to the twenty-one Nazis leaders awaiting trial at Nuremburg...raises questions of faith, guilt, morality, vengeance, forgiveness, salvation, and the essence of humanity.
I wonder if Gereke got any of these Nazi guys to admit that what they did was wrong?
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I wouldn't have thought this possible, but as it turns out, none of mystery writer Ellis Peters' wildly popular, best-selling "Brother Cadfael" novels have ever been released as digital editions. Until now. Well, in about 3 months, actually. British publisher House of Zeus has acquired the rights and will be releasing e-versions of all of the 21 Cadfael novels on June 1st.
In a statement published on their site, House of Zeus says these novels are
Set in Shrewsbury between AD 1120 (A Rare Benedictine) and AD 1145 (Brother Cadfael’s Penance), the series follows Benedictine monk Cadfael against the backdrop a land riven by a bitter, twenty-year conflict for the crown. Digital Publisher Nicolas Cheetham said, ‘Brother Cadfael is one of crime fiction's iconic detectives and Ellis Peters' evocation of medieval life remains unmatched. The Cadfael Chronicles are the Gold Standard for Historical Crime and Head of Zeus are delighted to be bringing them to a new audience.'
If we're lucky, maybe they'll release some kind of 'Brother Cadfael Omnibus' of all the novels in one volume.
Books by Morons
Dang, I missed mentioning this two weeks in a row. Moron author Gregory of Yardale has released Book 9 of his "World's Apart" series. You can buy it here for 4 bucks.
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Longtime moronette baldilocks is thinning out her library. She has books listed among her other auctions here, and you may be able to pick up a deal or two.
Also, she is trying to fund the writing of her second novel, and you can contribute here.
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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.
What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as I keep saying, life is too short to be reading lousy books.
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I'm mostly through Old Goriot by Balzac and it continues to be a good portrait of people on the make for money and love in post Revolutionary Paris.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 23, 2014 06:19 AM (R26RO)
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Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 23, 2014 06:28 AM (T2V/1)
Anyways Edward Nixon's book, "The Nixons: A Family Portrait" is an interesting read http://amzn.to/1dn5xLb
If you want another odd Nixon book check out 1999: Victory Without War by Richard Nixon published in 1989. The guy never stopped being smart
http://amzn.to/1jqu3cj
Posted by: Sayomara at March 23, 2014 06:34 AM (GpuRX)
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Posted by: Trainer's looking to join a Militia. at March 23, 2014 06:39 AM (7EbAY)
The name "Uncle Tom" being used as an insult has always bothered me. It doesn't say anything about the target, but speaks volumes about the one making the insult.
It's a good book with great historical significance. I highly recommend it.
Posted by: 29Victor at March 23, 2014 06:41 AM (ES9R7)
Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 06:45 AM (BeIpE)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 23, 2014 06:47 AM (T2V/1)
His analogy of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton being modern-day equivalents of Sambo and Quimbo is spot on.
Sort of the same thing happened with "ugly American". The actual character in the book "The Ugly American" actually represented the US quite well, but was physically ugly.
But the left, being the left, turned things upside down.... again
Posted by: Albie Damned at March 23, 2014 06:49 AM (cGaCp)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at March 23, 2014 06:50 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: yooper at March 23, 2014 06:50 AM (0cBMc)
Did read the first six chapters of Pat C. Hodgell's next Kencryath novel. Had to stop myself from spending $15 for a digital Advanced Reader Copy, it was that good.
April is Camp NaNoWriMo. 30 days of mad writing if you dare.
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And a side note. Is the racism charge losing its sting? Last night hanging with a bunch of twenty somethings of various ethnic and gender persuasions while watching anime something happened that might be an indicator it is. Or is the whole racism industry that is out of touch with reality?
A friend had brought her miniature dachshund with her, she is Anglo with green hair and piercings. One of our friends, an extroverted African-American was talking smack on how he don't like dogs. So my friend tells her dog to bark. Dog barks. We are laughing. Dog keeps barking and guy is acting up and finally says 'Dog must be racist.' And we keep laughing and this white guy over on the couch says 'Wondered if you would say that.' And we keep laughing, including the guy the dog barked at.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2014 06:51 AM (BL00c)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 23, 2014 06:52 AM (gBnkX)
No, I am not an O'Reilly fan at all but my father passed the book to me as a good read. The old man is seldom wrong.
Good historical perspective of the life of Christ and it helps knit the Gospels together for you.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 23, 2014 06:53 AM (IVgIK)
Posted by: GT at March 23, 2014 06:54 AM (8Ir6J)
I mean, how does that even come up?
"Sooo...wanna go back to my place so I can relieve myself on you?"
Posted by: Albie Damned at March 23, 2014 06:55 AM (cGaCp)
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Posted by: BornLib at March 23, 2014 07:06 AM (zpNwC)
Hyth is wrong. Wong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Posted by: The height of my faith in correct pronunciation at March 23, 2014 07:10 AM (yRkPK)
Posted by: doug at March 23, 2014 07:11 AM (ey25o)
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Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 23, 2014 07:14 AM (VSaCl)
Jack Campbell - Lost Fleet series
Robin Wayne Bailey - FROST novels.
Esther Friesner - Princesses of Myth series.
Lee Martindale - editor and short story writer
Elizabeth Moon - Deed of Paksenarrion, Paladin's Legacy, Speed of Dark
Elizabeth Ann Scarborough - Healer's War and 16 other novel.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2014 07:14 AM (BL00c)
Hello from Down Under!
Little Miss Spellcheck mentioned in another thread that she was watching "Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries" - a TV series based on books by Kerry Greenwood, an Aussie author
Kerry Greenwood has written 20 books based on Miss Phryne Fisher and they are a good read so I do recommend them to you and the books are available on Kindle and Amazon/Book depository
She has also written some science fiction books which I haven't read ..
Posted by: aussie at March 23, 2014 07:15 AM (7bNcL)
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Posted by: tangonine at March 23, 2014 07:21 AM (x3YFz)
I guess I would say the lessons of Nixon aren't just that we was smart or liberal but he is best example of what James Barber would call the active negative president which most agree Obama is also an example of.
Posted by: Sayomara at March 23, 2014 07:23 AM (GpuRX)
Posted by: BornLib at March 23, 2014 07:23 AM (zpNwC)
Lincoln may have made the remark, although the mistake is to take it at face value. Lincoln was well known for wry remarks and humor; he would've known damn well the 'late unpleasantness' wasn't JUST because of Stowe's book.
Posted by: Toastrider at March 23, 2014 07:24 AM (68UOB)
Posted by: BornLib at March 23, 2014 07:25 AM (zpNwC)
They might be expanding. Dragon*Con in Atlanta covers... well, just about everything. Video games, literature, various major fandoms, hard science, skepticism, paranormal interests, costuming and propmaking...
Posted by: Toastrider at March 23, 2014 07:25 AM (68UOB)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 23, 2014 07:27 AM (VSaCl)
So have gotten to meet Elizabeth Moon, Esther Friesner, Lee Martindale, Jody Lynn Nye and her husband, Robin Bailey, and a few others. Sit in on their panels, chat at their tables, and of course buy their books.
This year I have to wonder if Elizabeth Moon's publisher will be more kind to her. Last year at A-kon they did not send any books. So Elizabeth had three books to sell while Esther had a small mountain of her own books to sell.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2014 07:28 AM (BL00c)
Posted by: .87c at March 23, 2014 07:29 AM (XdlVI)
I did feel that the author was trying to beat the drum, so to speak, and that was certainly not a bad thing, but even in so doing she did not portray every "master/owner" as evil brutish villains. I read somewhere that she tried to weave together bits of eye-witness stories which had been told to her, and some from personal experiences. Also that she had made the acquaintance of people who were just, upright and generous and yet slave holders. She included such in the story.
I found the following on a google search which took me to ferris.edu :
"Despite being a model slave -- hard working, loyal, non-rebellious, and often contented -- Tom is sold, cursed, slapped, kicked, flogged, worked like a horse, then beaten to death. He never lifts a hand to hit his masters nor to stop a blow. Tom does not complain, rebel, or run away. This partially explains why the names "Uncle Tom" and "Tom" have become terms of disgust for African Americans. Tom's devotion to his master is surpassed only by his devotion to his religious faith."
"Never lifts a hand to hit his masters nor stop a blow" - implies that ALL of his "masters" beat Tom, when it was only the final master and his black overseer that beat "Tom". It implies that Tom was worked like a horse by every master, when that is not how the story goes, his final master being the only one who treated him that way.
In this way the modern understanding of the story is perverted.
I read one little blog post about this where the blogger compared "Sambo" to Jesse Jackson, and railed against Dr. Carson being referred to as a Uncle Tom, saying: "So how did we get to the place where the Sambo character was left by the wayside, and the undeserving Uncle Tom assumes the mantle of the modern day pandering snitch?
White folks trying to make a buck."
That last refers to Tom Shows, where the charter of Uncle Tom was rather manipulated to portray Tom as a "passive, docile, unthinking Christian. Loyal and faithful to white employers, duplicitous in dealings with fellow blacks. AKA, the pandering snitch."
It sold tickets, and kept the white hands clean while pitting generations of black people against each other.I bet Harriet Stowe didn't see that coming.
Posted by: GrandeMe at March 23, 2014 07:29 AM (o5drD)
Yeah, well, Mrs. Chronda lays her head on a pellow and drinks melk and thinks I'm weird when I mention it.
Posted by: Anachronda at March 23, 2014 07:30 AM (U82Km)
So, he woke up a Leftist Progressive then?
In reading news, still suffering through GRRM's "A Storm of Swords."
Also reading a book on home canning.
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 23, 2014 07:31 AM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 23, 2014 07:31 AM (LKJt3)
It is a cliche by now that the problem in arguing with progressives is that while conservatives are arguing facts and politics, progressives are defending their religion. Bottum examines how the secular progressive beliefs satisfy the same human hungers that were once filled by religion.
Here's the Amazon link:
www.amazon.com/Anxious-Age-Post-Protestant-Spirit-America-ebook/dp/B004FGMD4G
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 23, 2014 07:32 AM (PD6iL)
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Posted by: John the Baptist at March 23, 2014 07:36 AM (Xs981)
ExSnipe, people only became riled about nuclear when George W. supposedly mispronounced it.
Posted by: PJ at March 23, 2014 07:37 AM (ZWaLo)
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Posted by: doug at March 23, 2014 07:38 AM (ey25o)
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Posted by: Mordineus at March 23, 2014 07:43 AM (xEB1T)
Posted by: BornLib at March 23, 2014 07:43 AM (zpNwC)
Dragon*Con in Atlanta covers... well, just about everything. Video games, literature, various major fandoms, hard science, skepticism, paranormal interests, costuming and propmaking...
Posted by: Toastrider at March 23, 2014 11:25 AM (68UOB)
Heh.
The "Skeptics" track. Based upon the descriptions of their sessions at D*Con, it'd be more accurate to call it the "We Hate
Christians" track. The one thing they're definitely not skeptical over?
Catastrophic anthropogenic climate change. Nope, that's Science™!
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at March 23, 2014 07:44 AM (M5T54)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 23, 2014 07:44 AM (VSaCl)
Posted by: eman at March 23, 2014 07:44 AM (AO9UG)
"Melk" is supposedly as dead a giveaway as Mary-marry-merry. Sixty mile circle around Detroit.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 07:45 AM (xq1UY)
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Posted by: AmishDude at March 23, 2014 07:47 AM (xSegX)
ExSnipe, people only became riled about nuclear when George W. supposedly mispronounced it.
Posted by: PJ at March 23, 2014 11:37 AM (ZWaLo)
I gave my "earth science" teacher back in high school a hard time about his pronunciation of "noo-cyoo-lar" and that was in the late 80's/early 90's. I attribute it to my father being an EE.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at March 23, 2014 07:47 AM (M5T54)
Which is actually another myth, which perhaps the restaurant chain is perpetuating. The original "Li'l Black Sambo" story was written by an English lady whose husband was stationed in India, and she was living there with him. It has nothing to do with Africa, or black Africans, at all.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 23, 2014 07:48 AM (fTJ5O)
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Posted by: eman at March 23, 2014 07:52 AM (AO9UG)
Never been to DragonCon. When a con sprawls across 4 or 5 hotels I lose my enthusiasm. A-kon is getting that way though its my home con, it is now at the Hilton Anatole and they have not released the attendance figure for 24, 23 at the old venue exceeded 21,000.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2014 07:53 AM (BL00c)
a piece of yellow journalism in book form. A model for William Randolph Hurst it was.
Posted by: CO at March 23, 2014 07:54 AM (Uysai)
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Posted by: ExSnipe at March 23, 2014 07:55 AM (LKJt3)
Made up word of the week:
NyukNyuklear - a real hard hit from one of the Three Stooges.
Tip your waitress. Just the tip.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2014 07:57 AM (0Kobm)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 23, 2014 07:58 AM (udjuE)
That was the first book shown me (in 1964) to prove that patriotism was dead, and We are not the Men Our Fathers Were. Pushed by Birchers, but those Birchers were Korea vets.
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Mispronunciations
I was listening to a WWII era public service announcement and was struck by the pronunciation of tuberculosis. Circa 1945, it was tuber-cu-losis whereas today it is tuber(k)-u-losis. The 'c' migrated and changed its sound.
Don't get me started on Miamuh vs Miamee.
Posted by: John Johns at March 23, 2014 08:04 AM (GuPKL)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 23, 2014 08:06 AM (RZ8pf)
I tried. I got about halfway through before the writing style finally forced me to give up. The author tried so hard to phonetically write southern drawl and the slang of the time that it became incomprehensible. Kind of like reading Shakespeare. Too annoying. I hope that slave lady with the white kid got away in the end! But not enough to read it to find out.
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Posted by: 29Victor at March 23, 2014 08:18 AM (ES9R7)
I have a funeral pouch where I put everything related to my husband's death - Mass cards, letters from strangers who apparently read obituaries and pray for survivors, pamphlets on mourning, thank yous from the organ donor place. I haven't read any of the advice on mourning. Don't know why, but it's been 3 months now and I feel so cut off from God. Maybe this book will help me.
Posted by: Miley's Tongue at March 23, 2014 08:18 AM (R+h7Q)
Posted by: 29Victor at March 23, 2014 08:19 AM (ES9R7)
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I love the Book Thread and have gotten so much from all of you. I largely lurk, occasionally comment. I need some help with basic starter reading list -- History of ME and Islam.
Historian by training. Concentration Russia, and then EE and CE . Comfortable with Europe and Asia, to a lesser extent. Suck at the Middle East -- more general world history there, complicated with recent events.
I am an American, but not raised here until my 20s and my lack of knowledge of American history is embarrassing, even though I come from a military/state dept. family -- they were Slavic immigrants. And most of my work was international.
A few years back I was fortunate to acquire someone's almost new library of books with concentration of ME -- some current, some history.
I am trying to stay away from junk and crazies, realizing that everyone's opinion of what and who that might be differs. That said, after much circling and procrastinating I am going to start with B Lewis, The ME, A Brief History of the Last 2,000 Years. Primer -- dangers. But I have to start somewhere.
I would appreciate recommendations of maybe 5 or so starter books to get a good enough foundation to comfortably branch out on my own after that.
I wish I had a Map Room too. sigh
Many thanks for the recs and for the Sunday Book Thread.
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My dad was in the Phillipines. Going from island to island cleaning out the Japanese. Didn't talk about it much, even toward the end of his life. The Pacific war was a nasty war. Much worse than Europe.
Posted by: Soona at March 23, 2014 08:21 AM (DatQ/)
Nope. Southern Utah. When she did telephone support, callers often accused her of being from upstate New York based on her accent. Her family was from that area before they moved to Utah back in the mid 1800s.
Posted by: Anachronda at March 23, 2014 08:22 AM (U82Km)
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Posted by: Dr Alice at March 23, 2014 08:23 AM (tRcjU)
I presume The Trial will be some sort of text adventure, like Zork.
Posted by: Anachronda at March 23, 2014 08:25 AM (U82Km)
Posted by: RWC at March 23, 2014 08:25 AM (QeH9j)
Yeah, I should have mentioned, that title made me interested, too...
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 23, 2014 08:26 AM (fTJ5O)
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http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/203
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It's where we got sanitariums (mistakenly thought of as psycho hospitals). Places (some quite large) where TB patients were warehoused to die, seperate from the rest of society.
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Posted by: biancaneve at March 23, 2014 08:35 AM (2sR50)
So sorry about your loss. My prayers are with you.
Not that this will bring you relief, but 3 months is hardly any time at all in a loss as big as the one you're going through. Remember that God hasn't abandoned you, despite what you're feeling right now.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 23, 2014 08:36 AM (fTJ5O)
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Posted by: 29Victor at March 23, 2014 08:41 AM (ES9R7)
Reading "The History of Dams" from the public library.
Rule One in dam design - never let concrete go into tension.
Posted by: Whitehall at March 23, 2014 08:44 AM (sH5KC)
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Posted by: Whitehall at March 23, 2014 12:44 PM (sH5KC)
That civil engineering stuff isn't very civil and it is also not very forgiving!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2014 08:50 AM (o3MSL)
The classic book on this topic is Harold Kushner's "When Bad Things Happen to Good People."
I read it as part of my undergrad education, and it stuck with me enough that when things really did start to happen, I found it had shaped my view enough that I was able to sustain myself and my faith through the worst of it.
I think the gist of it is that we need to stop thinking God is doing these things to us for a reason. Like we're supposed to be learning something from our pain. Screw that. I would never tell anyone how to believe, but I would think it would be darned near impossible NOT to be angry with God if one believes He is taking people we love simply to provide us with life lessons.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2014 08:53 AM (BeSEI)
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Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at March 23, 2014 08:54 AM (iB0Q2)
SPOILER ALERT if you're not about a fifth of the way SPOILER ALERT
I mean, it's obvious early on that Kaladin is going to be the first of the new Knights Radiant, and not much further along that Shallan's going to be another of them. I'm pretty sure most if not all of Bridge Four are going to be part of Kaladin's Order. This is at about 19%.
Now I'm kind of slogging along waiting for it to actually *happen*!
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Posted by: Mrs. Mittens, still waiting for spring at March 23, 2014 09:08 AM (8m3cb)
I think this is a misguided and unhelpful book and I would not recommend it to anyone.
Although losing your son at age 14 from old age, something like that, I would not presume I could tell the poor father anything. I just disagree with the conclusions he came to.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 23, 2014 09:08 AM (fTJ5O)
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Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 23, 2014 09:31 AM (RZ8pf)
Well, without an answer to my question, I'll answer it for you.
Kushner suggests the world happens the way it does because the created world is not controlled by God, like a puppeteer, doling out life's lessons, and rewards and punishments.
Instead, God created a world where humans have free will, and the rules of the universe operate as they do, unimpeded by a God that needs to put His hand in, whenever things aren't quite going the way He wants.
Which means... evil sometimes/often happens. Evil, and other awful things will sometimes happen to each of us, not because God is hoping we'll learn some valuable lesson from it, but because, they do. Happen, that is.
So your faith, if it depends on God rewarding you for the good things you do, and punishing you for the bad thing you do, is going to be tested when the rewards and punishments don't match up right. In your eyes, at least.
And a lot of people just shrug their shoulders and say "oh well, everything happens for a reason."
Bullshit. Not everything happens for a reason, and there isn't always a lesson. It happens because God gave us a world where people can act as they do, and sometimes we do horrible things. And sometimes infants are born addicted to crack, and sometimes genetics screw up, and your child is born with a horrible disease that you can't explain away by saying "God wants to test me."
Sorry, it just doesn't work that way, and any rational review of how the world works, and has been working since the creation of time would tell you so.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2014 09:33 AM (BeSEI)
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Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 23, 2014 09:48 AM (gUoN4)
Uncle Tom's Cabin was a real surprise for me since my only knowledge of it was that it was about slavery. When I got around to it, I found it to be a bit oddly structured. I think that was because it was serialized in abolitionist newspapers. Didn't realize that it covered some info on the underground railroad; how the abolitionists wanted the slaves to be free, but many of the abolitionists didn't want the freed slaves living next door to them. But the biggest thing was how Uncle Tom wasn't a slobbering knuckleheaded yassaboss slave, but a noble and honest man, even once he'd been sold downriver. Geez. I sound like a sixth grade book report here.
Nonetheless, If you haven't read it, you really should.
Posted by: OldFert at March 23, 2014 09:49 AM (bx/lO)
For those who can- I highly recommend inheriting the collection of your local librarian. No way I finish all that she left me.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 23, 2014 09:53 AM (IVgIK)
Hope it's nothing like "Atlas Shrugged" which I could NOT endure.
Posted by: Whitehall at March 23, 2014 09:57 AM (sH5KC)
He created a giant Pachinko machine. You have some control of the initial direction you want to go but the pins of life can and do knock you in different directions. There are obvious bad initial inputs but even what you think is a perfect direction can go awry when the pins of life knock you around. Not completely random but also not completely controllable.
Posted by: The Hickster at March 23, 2014 09:58 AM (TI3xG)
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Posted by: BornLib at March 23, 2014 10:11 AM (zpNwC)
Wow, it's been a while since I heard that phrase ....
let alone seen it done.
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This being the horde, I should be afraid to look that up, shouldn't I?
Posted by: Retread at March 23, 2014 10:11 AM (cHwk5)
Yeah, Kirzner is wrong. And he presents the concepts in Kushner's book either inaccurately or dishonestly. I'm not sure which.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2014 10:20 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2014 10:23 AM (XyM/Y)
http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-stars-came-back.html )
But as he said, "who am I to argue with the market?" He's said earlier, in effect, "the way to win is write good stories." So that's what I tried to do. Apparently a few thousand people agree.
Thank you, horde, whether a formally recognized member or not.
Posted by: Rolf at March 23, 2014 10:28 AM (41Kyj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2014 10:36 AM (XyM/Y)
It doesn't help anyone's argument to misrepresent the views of what one is opposed to.
I think a lot of people object to Kushner because what he suggests is that humans need to take more responsibility for their own well-being, rather than waiting for an invasive God to push all the right buttons for them.
It's a scary concept, I know. But it is an objectively more accurate portrayal of the universe.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2014 10:36 AM (BeSEI)
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Posted by: Rolf at March 23, 2014 10:58 AM (41Kyj)
Wow. Thanks so much. I have moved all to my reading list to investigate. But what a wealth of starter info. Much appreciated.
Because I wanted to check Findlay as the author I did read a few reviews of that history. That's a real comfort zone for me -- Turkic peoples -- places I've been and known. Plus I started out long ago with Wittfogel's Theory of Oriental Despotism. But unless someone calls Full Stop on me or I on myself, I might start with the 2,000 years of Lewis.
And thanks, BTH for primary. I looked at Seeing Islam -- Kindle and Hard back. Because of price will I suffer for Kindle version or spring for the hardback. Thanks also for the info on free books -- looks like I might need that as well.
I better get cracking. As long as I do not get bogged down in the shiny objects of historical minutiae (where I live) I might make some progress. Again, thanks for your generous sharing. The horde does not disappoint.
Posted by: gracepmc at March 23, 2014 11:01 AM (rznx3)
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Posted by: The O Negative Hat at March 23, 2014 12:11 PM (AymDN)
First of all, my belief in God hasn't been shaken by my darling's death. I understand that God's purposes are beyond my divination. I understand that God decides when it's time to reshuffle the deck. It's just that we were so happy together, and my husband was really getting into stride with his art AND his music. He was such a good influence on me. We were God's gifts to each other, for a new beginning in middle age.
He was my first love, and then for decades we were out of touch. So we had eight wonderful years together. It kept getting better all the time. His love for me, and mine for him, was like a fuzzy kitten in my brain that I would pet dozens of times each day. It was my protective blankie, and now God has taken that away.
Oh yes, I know that he is still there, on the other side of the veil. But I miss him on this side of the veil, and I feel cheated that he was taken so soon. 59 is way, way too young. We should have had at least 25 years together, actuarially speaking.
God doesn't care about actuarial tables.
I feel dead in the water, with just enough energy to keep it together to go to work and pay the bills. I'm not worried about the future, probably because I don't care enough to "worry." At some point I will care again, which is why I need to keep my options open.
You're absolutely right - three months is a speck of time in the face of this loss. And I look forward to the time when it doesn't consume me with grief, the time when I can remember him lovingly instead of turning away from thinking about him at all.
I don't make any demands on myself in terms of grieving, but I do feel the pressure building up to go through his things and sort them for his kids and other family members. He was the keeper of the family memorabilia (lots of photos and some very valuable 18th century Bibles from early Moravians). Should I decide to move, those need to go to his family.
Right now I can only nibble at the edges of his stuff.
Fenelon, thank you for that prayer. It was cleansing.
I'm fortunate to have the love and support of his family, and friends. One of the blessings that came from Tim's loss was a blooming friendship with his daughters (I always gave them plenty of father-daughter time, so we never really developed our own relationships), and a few of his closest friends. You always have hubby as the filter through which you process his family & friends, but once that filter is gone, you see which of those friendships evolve to more personal connections.
From personal experience I know that miracles happen every day, but few of us acknowledge them. I've been in the depths of despair, unable to imagine that I could ever be happy again. Some of those situations were a lot more desperate than this one is, at least as seen from outside. I've always gotten what I need when I need it, and sometimes a bounty - but that only came when I was in a state of grace. That is, open to God's will and full of faith that He has my best interests as part of His plan.
Right now I'm too wrapped in my dark blanket of sorrow to feel any of the above. I hope to lighten up with the advent of spring and all of the promise of rebirth.
Thanks again to all of you who expressed your sympathy.
Posted by: Miley's Tongue at March 23, 2014 12:12 PM (R+h7Q)
Posted by: gracepmc at March 23, 2014 12:17 PM (rznx3)
Sorry I'm late with this but I was (ironically?) at church for a couple of hours.
This is not what he said. His main point was that God was unable to prevent evil, even if wanted to. Having created the world, there were still parts of it He has no control over.
Sorry, a god who can't, a god of inability, is no god at all. He's just like us, only bigger and more powerful (see Zeus, Jupiter, etc.). If that's your god, then fine, but that is not the almighty God the Bible speaks about.
Sorry, it just doesn't work that way, and any rational review of how the world works, and has been working since the creation of time would tell you so.
Man cries out for meaning and so you say "tough shit, there isn't any." That's it? What a philosophy of wretchedness.
I'm off again, be back later.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 23, 2014 12:59 PM (fTJ5O)
I recall 'As the sun in the South at meridian height,,,,'
Posted by: Erowmero at March 23, 2014 01:04 PM (1gcFZ)
It's not an all or nothing deal either with me, but I think his main thrust was, those that hold tight to a God that intervenes here or there or that losses or tests are lessons God wishes upon us are the most vulnerable to being badly shaken when the evil that is ever-present revels itself or the senseless loss occurs. Shaken to the point of losing faith, period.
I found it a profound book and have recommended it to many. I know my Baptist brother would have nothing to do with it as he feels very strongly about an active Lord, working in this way and that, daily.
Posted by: Yip at March 23, 2014 01:22 PM (/jHWN)
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Posted by: holygoat at March 23, 2014 03:43 PM (VPP/0)
Don't know if there is such a thing as conservative journalism camp, but there should be. I wouldn't recommend journalism as a career now, but if she's sure, she'll need to know all the tech stuff -- video, social media, etc. And as much coding as she can stand. If she's into long-form journalism ... I don't know if there'll be such a thing in a decade.
As far as I remember, Columbia and Missouri (straight journalism) and Ball State (design) are among the better j schools. Mizzou and Columbia produce liberals by the truckload, of course.
Posted by: RovingCopyEditor at March 23, 2014 04:55 PM (/S5ss)
"Yes, Mas'r," said Tom, putting up his hand, to wipe the blood, that trickled down his face. "I'm willin' to work, night and day, and work while there's life and breath in me; but this yer thing I can't feel it right to do; - and, Mas'r, I never shall do it, - never!"
...An't I yer master? Didn't I pay down twelve hundred dollars, cash, for all there is inside yer old cussed black shell? An't yer mine, now, body and soul?" he said, giving Tom a violent kick with his heavy boot; "tell me!"
In the very depth of physical suffering, bowed by brutal oppression, this question shot a gleam of joy and triumph through Tom's soul. He suddenly stretched himself up, and, looking earnestly to heaven, while the tears and blood that flowed down his face mingled, he exclaimed,
"No! no! no! my soul an't yours, Mas'r! You haven't bought it, - ye can't buy it! It's been bought and paid for, by one that is able to keep it; - no matter, no matter, you can't harm me!"
Uncle Tom was no "Uncle Tom."
Posted by: Fr. John Whiteford at March 23, 2014 06:10 PM (z95BI)
The trader caught a full glimpse of her just as she was disappearing down the bank; and throwing himself from his horse, and calling loudly on Sam and Andy, he was after her like a hound after a deer. In that dizzy moment her feet to her scarce seemed to touch the ground, and a moment brought her to the water's edge. Right on behind they came; and, nerved with strength such as God gives only to the desperate, with one wild cry and flying leap, she vaulted sheer over the turbid current by the shore, on to the raft of ice beyond. It was a desperate leap - impossible to anything but madness and despair; and Haley, Sam, and Andy, instinctively cried out, and lifted up their hands, as she did it. The huge green fragment of ice on which she alighted pitched and creaked as her weight came on it, but she staid there not a moment. With wild cries and desperate energy she leaped to another and still another cake; stumbling - leaping - slipping - springing upwards again! Her shoes are gone - her stockings cut from her feet - while blood marked every step; but she saw nothing, felt nothing, till dimly, as in a dream, she saw the Ohio side, and a man helping her up the bank.
Posted by: Fr. John Whiteford at March 23, 2014 06:14 PM (z95BI)
Nixon tried to make friends with the Democrats. It did him NO good. Democrats could not forgive him for going after KGB spy Alger Hiss. The Democrats have two heros. FDR and Uncle Joe. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.
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