January 27, 2014

Ted Cruz: Obama Should Use State of the Union Address to Apologize to America for Obamacare "Lie of the Year"
— Ace

Video at the link.

“For the State of the Union, one of the things President Obama really oughta do is look in the TV camera and say to the over 5 million Americans all across this country who've had their health insurance canceled because of ObamaCare, to look in the camera and say, ‘I’m sorry,’ ” Cruz said on CBS’s "Face the Nation."

Obamacare meanwhile is at its lowest support ever according to a FoxNews poll.

A record high number of voters now oppose the 2010 Affordable Care Act and a record low number supports it, according to the latest Fox News poll.

In addition, a majority thinks the new law will increase their health care costs, while few think it will improve their quality of care.

...

The new poll finds 59 percent of voters oppose the health care law, up from 55 percent who opposed it six months ago (June 2013). The increase in opposition comes from both independents and Democrats.

Nearly a third of Democrats -- 30 percent -- oppose the law, up from 22 percent in June.

Opposition among independents went from 53 percent to 64 percent today.

Overall, 36 percent of voters favor the new health care law. ThatÂ’s down from 40 percent in June and marks a new low.

Glenn Reynolds writes of "Irish democracy" in his USAToday column -- killing a law by passive resistance to it, or even active flouting of it. He quotes James Scott to explain the principle:

One need not have an actual conspiracy to achieve the practical effects of a conspiracy. More regimes have been brought, piecemeal, to their knees by what was once called 'Irish Democracy,' the silent, dogged resistance, withdrawal, and truculence of millions of ordinary people, than by revolutionary vanguards or rioting mobs.

Retiring liberal Congressman/longtime bilious psychopath Jim Moran confesses that just that sort of passive resistance, among the young especially, is undermining Obamacare. Or, as the American University radio station he gave the interview to puts it, it could "unravel" the system.

“I’m afraid that the millennials, if you will, are less likely to sign up. I think they feel more independent, I think they feel a little more invulnerable than prior generations,” Moran says. “But I don’t think we’re going to get enough young people signing up to make this bill work as it was intended to financially.”

If MoranÂ’s prediction is correct, the whole law could unravel. He says there just isnÂ’t enough incentive for healthy young people to sign up for insurance.

“And, frankly, there’s some legitimacy to their concern because the government spends about $7 for the elderly for every $1 it spends on the young,” Moran says.

Megan McArdle notes that Obamacare has been most effective at signing up people who already had insurance. That is to say, who previously had insurance, but Obamacare cancelled it. And of those folks, Obamacare has actually managed to sign up... 75% of them.

So of the people who previously had insurance, Obamacare has only taken all insurance away from 25%. The rest have more expensive, worse coverage through Obamacare.

That's a big win, I guess, relatively, compared to the other numbers. Obama's Big Win consists of reducing the insured rate of a group by a mere 25%.

But what about the uninsured, the people for whom we're making all these sacrifices?

Of those, Obmacare has enticed... 15% to sign up. 85% of the previously uninsured remain uninsured.


Posted by: Ace at 10:12 AM | Comments (386)
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1 I would really like to see how many people signed up for one of the Christian cost sharing groups like we did. My guess is that their enrollment skyrocketed.

Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2014 09:43 AM (hFL/3)

2 i love ted

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 31 days until spring training at January 27, 2014 10:14 AM (u8GsB)

3 The Apology http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_QfilVbAd4

Posted by: Seinfeld at January 27, 2014 10:16 AM (PghX9)

4 ace, you're such a meanie. You can't judge people by the actual results of their policies. It's all about good intentions!

Posted by: AMDG at January 27, 2014 10:16 AM (t7OO0)

5

But using every available means, including the shutdown, to try and stop this trainwreck was nuts, right?

Whacko bird, a failed strategy, a can't win solution.  Way to go you GOP estab./maverick dummies.

 

Ted Cruz, et al., these are the leaders you are looking for.  The rest are pussy ballless wonders that just hope there's enough govt teat left for them, their lobbyist pals, and, if time permits, their monied "constituents."

 

Conservatives who run on principle, and who take tough stands, are what we need.  Period.

Posted by: prescient11 at January 27, 2014 10:16 AM (tVTLU)

6 Get in line, America.

Posted by: Joe Wilson at January 27, 2014 10:16 AM (PghX9)

7 Ssssssssssssssssssss...

Posted by: The Fuse on the Employer Mandate Bomb at January 27, 2014 10:17 AM (8ZskC)

8 I drank a lot in 2012 after I realized Obama was winning.  I thought that was Irish democracy.

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at January 27, 2014 10:17 AM (9F2c1)

9 It's like he wanted to fcuk up the healthcare system on purpose.

Posted by: joncelli at January 27, 2014 10:17 AM (RD7QR)

10 8 I drank a lot in 2012 after I realized Obama was winning. I thought that was Irish democracy.

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at January 27, 2014 02:17 PM (9F2c1)


Well, that's part of the process. You get the "truculent resistance" part the next morning when the hangover kicks in.

Posted by: joncelli at January 27, 2014 10:18 AM (RD7QR)

11 PRO TIP: Once you start fucking the chicken, you'll look like an idiot when you just stop.  Even more of an idiot than how you looked when you started.

So....

Keep fucking that chicken, Barky!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 10:18 AM (8ZskC)

12 "killing a law by passive resistance to it, or even active flouting of it"

That just might work.

Posted by: The 55 Mile-Per-Hour Speed Limit at January 27, 2014 10:19 AM (9F2c1)

13 Fundamental change bitches.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 27, 2014 10:19 AM (Aif/5)

14 That wasn't a lie - it was an intentional fabrication for your own good, peasant.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at January 27, 2014 10:19 AM (tv7DV)

15

12.

 

Pure, fucking awesomeness.  hahahahahahaha.  Indeed!

Posted by: prescient11 at January 27, 2014 10:20 AM (tVTLU)

16 I thought Irish Democracy was an Axl Rose solo album.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 27, 2014 10:20 AM (RUvjp)

17 We don't want the Irish or their democracy.

Posted by: Olson Johnson at January 27, 2014 10:20 AM (8ZskC)

18 Good morning Ace!  So you finally kicked the hookers out?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 10:21 AM (Hvt9o)

19 Soon I'll be in the oval office and in a position to fix all this.  I'm sooooo ready!! 

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 27, 2014 10:21 AM (GjPnA)

20 17 We don't want the Irish or their democracy.

Posted by: Olson Johnson at January 27, 2014 02:20 PM (8ZskC)


Ruwgrr!

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at January 27, 2014 10:21 AM (RD7QR)

21 I was told there would be no math on this blog. Have we mentioned the huge deductibles yet? Because we need to mention those. What possible economic sense does it make for a millenial to purchase an insurance policy with a $5,000 deductible unless that person is purposefully buying a catastrophic insurance plan? I vaguely recall that the first few health insurance policies I bought right out of college were cheap but that's because they were get hit by a bus plans, not allegedly comprehensive care plans. Also, no one made me buy them.

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 27, 2014 10:22 AM (VtjlW)

22 Cruz will make a fine VP for President Palin

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 27, 2014 10:22 AM (At8tV)

23 Does anyone remember what Pelosi and the Democrats said when Bush wanted to rebate taxpayers back in his first term? They said Nyet!, everyone should get a rebate, especially those who don't pay any taxes! Expect the same thing in WI since Walker wants to only give tax cuts to property owners.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 27, 2014 10:22 AM (zZLRY)

24 "killing a law by passive resistance to it, or even active flouting of it"

That just might work.

Posted by: The 55 Mile-Per-Hour Speed Limit

Totally, dude.

Posted by: 16th Amendment[/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 10:22 AM (cxs6V)

25 ,' the silent, dogged resistance, withdrawal, and truculence of millions of ordinary people


Well, that and the simple fact we don't have the money to pay the premium.
What the hell is so difficult to understand when you tell someone, 'we can't afford it'? Don't have the money.

Posted by: Yukin Flambeau at January 27, 2014 10:23 AM (8NlwM)

26 Fuck Jim Moron. I am so fucking sick and tired of these lying crapweasels. Oh yeah, I voted for this piece of crap, America. Now that I'm fleeing/retiring, I apologize, m-kay?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 27, 2014 10:23 AM (7ObY1)

27 I would really like to see how many people signed up for one of the Christian cost sharing groups like we did. My guess is that their enrollment skyrocketed. Will those remain legal after 2014? We canceled our California insurance and moved to Texas a month early to get a starting date of December 2013 on our new insurance, just to put off having to deal with the exchanges for a year. Currently, even if there is a sweep of the Senate and the House big enough to override Presidential vetoes, we’ll still be out of luck until those bodies reconvene—and lets face it, that isn’t happening.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 27, 2014 10:23 AM (QF8uk)

28 November's comin'.

Like a freight train pullin' a load of pain.

Posted by: mrp at January 27, 2014 10:23 AM (JBggj)

29 In the meantime, I am hooked up to a neat little pump that feeds me antibiotics 6x a day, no muss, no fuss, I can do all the changing. I am sure the company that manufactured the handy device is hurting with the new rules.

Posted by: ejo at January 27, 2014 10:23 AM (GXvSO)

30 Posted by: Olson Johnson at January 27, 2014 02:20 PM (8ZskC) Now that's what I call some authentic frontier gibberish!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 27, 2014 10:24 AM (7ObY1)

31

Does anyone know what president Obama's mailing address is? I would like to send him a Valentine Card.

 

 

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at January 27, 2014 10:24 AM (OaVVy)

32 That's rather funny-in a grim way-the idea that anyone might think President Obama will apologize for anything. When narcissists apologize it's never sincere-they feel forced into it and/or they try to subtly make someone else responsible for their failings.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2014 10:24 AM (7kkQJ)

33 An apology without amends, that is a lie is just adds insult to injury.  So let the JEF rub it in some more.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 27, 2014 10:24 AM (DL2i+)

34 Sooooo, I'm in Texas and our primary is next month and we vote for state senator in the fall, hopefully to replace Cornyn. Can we write in Cruz and just have his votes count twice??? Who's with me? (Don't I wish....)

Posted by: lindafell at January 27, 2014 10:25 AM (PGO8C)

35 Does anyone know what president Obama's mailing address is? I would like to send him a Valentine Card. Just stay right where you are. A customer service representative will be along shortly.

Posted by: NSA Field Station #356[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 10:25 AM (f0BgF)

36 Lauren, we also signed up for a Christian cost sharing program. We WILL NOT ever sign up for Obamacare, would rather pay a fine and not have insurance.

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 10:26 AM (A98Xu)

37 If I wanted socialized medicine, I could've just stayed in Canada, eh hosers?

Posted by: Ted Cruz at January 27, 2014 10:26 AM (9F2c1)

38 We're gonna FIX Obamacare!
And then  we're gonna pass amnesty for millions of illegals!

YeeARhggHHhah!!!!

#howarddean

Posted by: Bipartisan GOP [/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 10:27 AM (5ikDv)

39 Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 27, 2014 02:22 PM (VtjlW) We've shifted costs all around in really whacky ways. So now the millennials are paying for preventative care visits they're statistically unlikely to use, maternity coverage for other people most likely and birth control (the most expensive kinds as well.) Meanwhile if you get anything less than cancer it's unlikely to be paid for. (And am I correct in understanding that the out of pocket caps on these plans are even more astronomical?!) Heck the deductibles on these plans are higher than my out of pock maximum. Now granted, I pay a pretty penny for insurance, but still.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 27, 2014 10:27 AM (GaqMa)

40
Just like the low income housing Valerie Jarrett was behind in Chicago. Money goes to friends. Friends make you rich later. The supposed beneficiaries? Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Winning ticket at January 27, 2014 10:28 AM (bkTIc)

41 The main reason obamacare isn't going anywhere is Preexisting Conditions. It was THE game changer. How obama conned the stupid greedy insurance lobby and execs will make a great movie some day.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 27, 2014 10:28 AM (zZLRY)

42 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 10:28 AM (PYAXX)

43 The problem is, it's just all soooo confusing with all these insurance companies and subsidies and backends that don't work cohesively together.  What we really need to do to simplify it all is single payer, run by the government.  That way, it will be so much easier! 

Posted by: Army of Liberal Media Mouthpieces at January 27, 2014 10:28 AM (Oa7B2)

44 But 30 million  uninsured  people were begging for health insurance!  They were dying in the streets!

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2014 10:28 AM (QW+AD)

45 I'd love to be distracted by this but I'm busy gearing up for this war on women I'm supposedly a part of.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 27, 2014 10:28 AM (P1WNR)

46 Meanwhile if you get anything less than cancer it's unlikely to be paid for. (And am I correct in understanding that the out of pocket caps on these plans are even more astronomical?!) ButÂ….butÂ….but prevention is cheaper than treatment!!!

Posted by: Low Info Voter circa 2010[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 10:29 AM (f0BgF)

47 I saw Irish Democracy do a solo show at the Roxy in '83.

Posted by: Least - who doesn't wanna be in CA at January 27, 2014 10:29 AM (xEBDy)

48 Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 27, 2014 02:28 PM (zZLRY) Except the actual number of people being denied insurance for pre-existing conditions was quite small. WierdDave has stats on this somewhere I think. Granted, Obama has convinced everyone that EVERYBODY EVERYWHERE! was probably going to get denied for that. The fact that Americans believed him with looking at things already on the books (hi, HIPAA!) is...well expected.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 27, 2014 10:30 AM (GaqMa)

49 Remember the good ol' days, when Barry was promising that health insurance policies, on average, would drop by $2500 a year?

Posted by: mrp at January 27, 2014 10:30 AM (JBggj)

50 Awesome Cruz: Doing the job that American GOP Senators won't do, i.e., going after the commie bastards.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 27, 2014 10:30 AM (pginn)

51 45 That is one hell of a story about the power of the press. <> The press/media/MSM/journalism as we know it must be stopped!!!

Posted by: lindafell at January 27, 2014 10:30 AM (PGO8C)

52 "Retiring liberal Congressman/longtime bilious psychopath Jim Moran confesses that just that sort of passive resistance, among the young especially, is undermining Obamacare."

It has not been well remarked that here in northern Commiefornia, Rep. George Miller, who has been in Congress since the Nixon years as part of the first wave of liberal baby boomers into those seats, is pulling the ejection seat handle and retiring.

The significance of this is hard to overstate.

Miller comes out of the same ruthless regional "Burton machine", named after the eponymous Burton brothers, both very greasy liberal pols, through which Nancy Pelosi came up. Miller has been an absolutely unswerving Pelosi ally and his seat is still at least notionally quite safe thanks to gerrymandering.

So when a guy like that takes to his heels, you know there is major trouble brewing for liberals on Capitol Hill. You can also infer that Pelosi is shipping water over the gunwales with the rank and file, who are probably ready for a change of leadership by now.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 10:30 AM (gqT4g)

53 Dr. Spank, I can't wait to go from a racist to a sexist. FUN!

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 10:31 AM (A98Xu)

54 Ted Cruz really needs to be delivering the SOTU response.

Posted by: @JohnTant at January 27, 2014 10:32 AM (PFy0L)

55 Like I said I wish we could just vote for Cruz twice and him be BOTH of Texas' senators.

Posted by: lindafell at January 27, 2014 10:32 AM (PGO8C)

56 Ted Cruz really needs to be delivering the SOTU response. He's too threatening. He actually says what he means. / sarc off

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 10:33 AM (f0BgF)

57 Yeah right, that's a good one Senator Cruz.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 27, 2014 10:33 AM (hLRSq)

58 Somebody probably got to this before me, but I think the State of the Union should consist of Obama saying: "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

Posted by: Glen at January 27, 2014 10:33 AM (KQZd+)

59 Meanwhile if you get anything less than cancer it's unlikely to be paid for. (And am I correct in understanding that the out of pocket caps on these plans are even more astronomical?!) Heck the deductibles on these plans are higher than my out of pock maximum. Now granted, I pay a pretty penny for insurance, but still. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 27, 2014 02:27 PM (GaqMa) This is off the top of my head so it's not dead on accurate and there are tons of plans out there but it's a combination of high deductible ($5k and up) and high copay (20% or more) and high out of pocket max ($5k and up). So there are plans where you're out $10k before a penny is picked up by insurance. Which, again, is fine. If I were between jobs then I wouldn't have a problem buying a catastrophic coverage policy because that's what I need right then. But these are not being sold as catastrophic but rather comprehensive plans. Previously, insurance commissioners would be going after companies who did this with all diligence for bait and switch advertising.

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 27, 2014 10:33 AM (VtjlW)

60 I love the way that idiot Moran whines that Republicans won't help him and his treasonous, greedy cockholsters save Barkycare.  Hey, nickelfucker, if you break into my house to rape my daughter, I'm not obliged to provide the KY and anal lube.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 27, 2014 10:33 AM (zF6Iw)

61 I don't watch SOTU speeches but I do enjoy the screen shots of Boehner with a three martini, boozy/sleepy look to him. This is our "leadership." Go us!

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 10:33 AM (A98Xu)

62 Posted by: Low Info Voter circa 2010 at January 27, 2014 02:29 PM (f0BgF) If I could find whoever started that meme...well, I don't know what I do, because I have morality. In any case, I remember fighting with an MHA (Masters in Health Admin.) student around that time period (2010? 2009? Something like that.) He pulled up a stat that "Catching a disease earlier leads to lower treatment costs." To which I responded "yes, for the individual, but that doesn't take into account the aggregate costs of testing, or for that matter if testing even CAN catch it earlier in a meaningful number of cases." He actually did not understand that, looked at me and went "what? You're not making sense." He probably works for a hospital, insurer, or worse: democrat now. Best and brightest folks best and brightest. (Actually we said MHA students were the rejects from MBA programs.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 27, 2014 10:33 AM (GaqMa)

63 I'm thinking about making another cameo appearance on Tuesday night.

Posted by: Beyonce's Labia Majora at January 27, 2014 10:33 AM (wnWUK)

64 obama, with the help of Big Insurance, fundamentally changed "insurance" into something opposite. Plus, people love the idea of never ever being denied 'insurance' on-the-spot for a preexisting condition.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 27, 2014 10:33 AM (zZLRY)

65 I hope you ladies are retreating to secure bunkers deep in the woods because we're coming to get ya.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 27, 2014 10:33 AM (P1WNR)

66 57 You mean the truth?

Posted by: lindafell at January 27, 2014 10:34 AM (PGO8C)

67
Even that 15% insured is questionable. From California:

Due to the large number of Medi-Cal applications received through the Covered California website, the Department of Health Care Services (DHCS) will provide temporary Medi-Cal eligibility for many individuals and families while their applications are being verified. This temporary coverage, called presumptive eligibility, will allow adults to receive Medi-Cal coverage through the 8E Accelerated Enrollment aid code starting January 1, 2014, while their applications are being verified.

http://tinyurl.com/kgpo4jx



So, some portion of those "gets" are ineligible, but they covered anyway.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 27, 2014 10:34 AM (kdS6q)

68 Meanwhile if you get anything less than cancer it's unlikely to be paid for. (And am I correct in understanding that the out of pocket caps on these plans are even more astronomical?!) Just a guess here, but the total OPX (deductible + coinsurance) on a 5k deductible is probably $7500. That's pretty normal. Further, while HDHPs are good for some- they are typically NOT for those who were uninsured. Especially those who have "pre-existing conditions." The concept behind the HDHP is that the lower premium (ha! 404Care screwed that up, too) would be used to put money in your HSA. After *several years* of that, you'd have plenty of money in your HSA for medical calamity. If you have that medical calamity in the first year or two (or if you come pre-calamitied)? Not so much.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 10:34 AM (PYAXX)

69 So Duh!1 is braying again?
I'll pass....

Posted by: backhoe at January 27, 2014 10:34 AM (ULH4o)

70 Will those remain legal after 2014? Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 27, 2014 02:23 PM (QF8uk) The exemption that makes them legal is written into the ACA bill. My guess is they will remain legal until it comes to the government's attention that all these people are saving so much money on their healthcare.

Posted by: Mindy at January 27, 2014 10:34 AM (mQwL2)

71 Irish Democracy?  Never heard of it...

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 27, 2014 10:34 AM (/jHWN)

72 Abuse of power? Sorry, Senator, that's not on today's agenda.

Posted by: Bob Schieffer at January 27, 2014 10:35 AM (4YUWF)

73 But the census bureau said we had 40M people uninsured (which was a lie, there were only about 10M who wanted insurance and could not afford it).


By the end of this year we will have 150M uninsured, 140M of which lost it due to Obamacide.


What will the Republicans do?  They will do NOTHING except come up with an alternative plan almost as bad which will never be passed.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 27, 2014 10:35 AM (T2V/1)

74 I'm going to go out on a limb and say that an apology will not be forthcoming. He's probably going to go full socialist in tomorows SOTU. Income inequality, minimum wage, universal pre-k, etc. Wild cards: high speed rail and prosperity zones.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2014 10:35 AM (Ng/f0)

75 Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 27, 2014 02:33 PM (VtjlW) Wait so the OOP max doesn't kick in until *AFTER* the deductible? Holy shit, I haven't read that deep into my insurance plan yet, but I don't think that's the case for me. (Granted, deductble is $500, so compared to the several thousand OOP max, it's really not that much. That is to say "if I hit this, I'm already spending a ton of money."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 27, 2014 10:35 AM (GaqMa)

76 55 Ted Cruz really needs to be delivering the SOTU response. Posted by: @JohnTant at January 27, 2014 02:32 PM (PFy0L) yep...but i heard it's going to be the 4th ranking gop congressperson..i hope she remembers to wear her sneakers to give credibility to her response.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 31 days until spring training at January 27, 2014 10:35 AM (u8GsB)

77 Wait, IRISH democracy? Oh hell no.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 27, 2014 10:35 AM (P1WNR)

78 The King does not apologize to the likes of you!

Posted by: Carney the Courtier at January 27, 2014 10:36 AM (EqGES)

79 I'm uninsured for the first time in over a decade thanks to the ACA.

Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 10:36 AM (wnWUK)

80 I don't watch SOTU speeches but I do enjoy the screen shots of Boehner with a three martini, boozy/sleepy look to him.

Given the circumstances, you wouldn't?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 27, 2014 10:36 AM (SY2Kh)

81 yep...but i heard it's going to be the 4th ranking gop congressperson..i hope she remembers to wear her PINK sneakers to give credibility to her response..... THERE FIXED IT FOR YOU

Posted by: lindafell at January 27, 2014 10:37 AM (PGO8C)

82

An apology without amends, that is a lie is just adds insult to injury. So let the JEF rub it in some more.

 

An apology without tears is not convicing at all.

Crying is mandatory.

Posted by: RolandTHTG at January 27, 2014 10:37 AM (QM5S2)

83

Butterfinger Peanut Butter Cups are Da Bombez

 

/that is all

Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 10:37 AM (3ZtZW)

84 "Like I said I wish we could just vote for Cruz twice and him be BOTH of Texas' senators."

To some extent, Ted is at least influencing both TX seats.

Cornyn ran as a comparatively conservative candidate, then once in the Senate transmogrified into a Chamber of Commerce weak moderate, then saw what Cruz did to Dewhurst, and frantically began to tack right to try to head off a comparable primary challenge to his own person. This is more public relations than substance on Cornyn's part, but still. It shows that he was unsettled by what Cruz pulled off.

Elections, including primary elections, have consequences. Sometimes ones reaching beyond the individuals and seats specifically contested.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 10:37 AM (gqT4g)

85 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 02:34 PM (PYAXX) This is why the wife and I can't figure out how to move to a HDHP, I take Crestor and there's some other confounding factors that I'm not interested in discussing right now. Granted if I ever get employed and get on my own insurance we're going to try to figure out if SHE can move to a HDHP, we can stockpile for a bit and then I can move in when we've got enough of a cushion stored away. (This is helped by Crestor going generic in 2016.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 27, 2014 10:37 AM (GaqMa)

86 55 Ted Cruz really needs to be delivering the SOTU response.
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 27, 2014 02:32 PM (PFy0L)

My vote's for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers cheerleading squad.  Or any NHL team's shovel girls.

Posted by: mrp at January 27, 2014 10:37 AM (JBggj)

87 One hundred and twenty-nine million people no longer have to worry about being denied health insurance because of a pre-existing condition. Go for it, Grand Obstruction Party! Take that away from them and their families. Repeal, repeal, repeal! Shout it from the rooftops! And kiss 2014 good-bye!

Posted by: Hmmm at January 27, 2014 10:37 AM (fWAjv)

88 If you like your pre-existing condition, you can keep your pre-existing condition.

Posted by: Dr. Barack Hussein Obama at January 27, 2014 10:38 AM (tv7DV)

89 Oh BTW, did anyone else notice that due to O-Care, the IRS won't let you put more than $2,500 pre-tax in a medical flexible spending account? With my family, it's gone in the first few months. Thanks, O-Care, and I didn't even sign up for you. Cfuk-tards

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 27, 2014 10:38 AM (pginn)

90 I hope your tax returns are in order Mister Cruz.

Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at January 27, 2014 10:38 AM (Pr6hk)

91 Your move, senator Cruz.

Posted by: Mr. Powerstroke Super Duty 4X4 King Ranch Edition at January 27, 2014 10:38 AM (SkdVM)

92 I can't wait to see how Obama tries to spin the failure of Obamacare tomorrow night. I'll be surprised if some GOPers in the audience don't start laughing at him.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2014 10:38 AM (g1DWB)

93 Best and brightest folks best and brightest. (Actually we said MHA students were the rejects from MBA programs.) ::: looks at MPA diploma ::: ::: throws in trash :::

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 10:38 AM (rSGQV)

94 The concept behind the HDHP is that the lower premium (ha! 404Care screwed that up, too) would be used to put money in your HSA. After *several years* of that, you'd have plenty of money in your HSA for medical calamity. If you have that medical calamity in the first year or two (or if you come pre-calamitied)? Not so much. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 02:34 PM (PYAXX) That's what we had before Obama made them illegal. President BUSH'S healthcare reform made it possible for my husband and me to insure ourselves for $250/ mo. Last bill we got after ObamaCare went into effect was $980, and we lost our HSA tax savings. Still not sure how this is supposed to help poor people.

Posted by: Mindy at January 27, 2014 10:38 AM (mQwL2)

95 Given the circumstances, you wouldn't? Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 27, 2014 02:36 PM (SY2Kh) Given the circumstance I do.

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 10:38 AM (A98Xu)

96 21 atc,
 
Jim Geraghty at NRO wrote a little bit about what these plans cost for the young:
 
http://tinyurl.com/nkpwkkx
 
The deductibles are absolutely killer.
 
I will not comply, myself. And my Amish beard is coming in nicely.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2014 10:38 AM (wNF3N)

97

My policy wasn't cancelled but I was given the privilege of now having a 500 co-pay on everything except basic doctor visits  whereas in the past it was 0.   Oh and I forgot.   A 50.00 co-pay on medication. 

 

Apologize bitch and pay me.

Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 10:39 AM (m2CN7)

98 Wait so the OOP max doesn't kick in until *AFTER* the deductible? Holy shit, I haven't read that deep into my insurance plan yet, but I don't think that's the case for me. (Granted, deductble is $500, so compared to the several thousand OOP max, it's really not that much. That is to say "if I hit this, I'm already spending a ton of money." Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 27, 2014 02:35 PM (GaqMa) I think so but I am not even remotely positive on that. I do very distinctly remember reading that out of network care doesn't count towards either deductible or OPM so those people who have a network of four doctors in their county are barbed cock thunderfucked.

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 27, 2014 10:39 AM (VtjlW)

99 We didn't hear Sen. Cruz say that. At all. Or we would have aired it.

Posted by: meat the press at January 27, 2014 10:40 AM (NU/ou)

100
Probably said already but don't forget the part of the Cruz appearance that CBS edited out.  and the Rand Paul "war on women" response is excellent too.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 10:40 AM (n0DEs)

101 69  Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 02:34 PM (PYAXX)


I signed up for the catastrophic health plan with my company insurance last year. It had a $5K floor you had to meet and then it covered 100% of all "covered" expenses after that.  We met our $5K about mid Feb.  That was the best plan for us.



We signed up for the same plan this year.  Thanks to Obamacide it costs more than double, it only covers 80% of covered costs, and it has a $10K out of pocket.  


And I am afraid when the employer Obamacide kicks in I will lose it all.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 27, 2014 10:40 AM (T2V/1)

102 Wait so the OOP max doesn't kick in until *AFTER* the deductible? It depends on what the insurer means by "Out of Pocket." Most of the time, OPX is a combination of Deductible and Coinsurance. So you pay your full deductible, then coinsurance kicks in at x% (as low as 60 for the bronze plans- meaning you're paying 40% of the bill). Once that 40% you've been paying PLUS the deductible you already paid equals a certain amount, then you've hit the Out of Pocket max. But also remember that OPX does not include "non-covered charges," "out-of-network charges," and a host of other things.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 10:40 AM (PYAXX)

103 You screwed up, you trusted me.

Posted by: Barry 'Otter' Soetoro at January 27, 2014 10:40 AM (Pr6hk)

104 Oh good, another lame troll. What do we have to do to attract a better class of troll around here?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 27, 2014 10:40 AM (7ObY1)

105 21 alexthechick It is a miracle that you somehow survived all those years in the non-mandated insurance wilderness.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 27, 2014 10:40 AM (xWgW3)

106 Wild cards: high speed rail and prosperity zones.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2014 02:35 PM (Ng/f0)


Yes, look at all the good California has gotten out of high-speed rail. Wait...

Posted by: joncelli at January 27, 2014 10:40 AM (RD7QR)

107 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 27, 2014 02:38 PM (rSGQV) I can't speak to MPA's Bannion, but I'll say this: ostensibly and MHA is a specialized business degree. And yet, these guys had 0 understanding of...well anything about business or economics, or medicine, or ethics!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 27, 2014 10:40 AM (GaqMa)

108 Maybe Zero will treat the uninsured the way the Nazis treated the jews. ID them, make them wear badges, harass them, then round them up and put them on trains. Except the trains will go to Obamacare sign-up centers, staffed by navigators.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 27, 2014 10:40 AM (tmFlQ)

109 I am truly sorry that  so many of you are too stupid to understand the wondrous  gift of Obamacare that I have given you.

Posted by: Obozo SOTU at January 27, 2014 10:41 AM (QW+AD)

110 Someone, someone's done me wrong,
you thought that your love was strong,
now you're feeling like such a fool.
Poor you.

Posted by: Mike at January 27, 2014 10:41 AM (Rk8LS)

111 Yes, rub his nose in it.

Posted by: Ceasar Milan at January 27, 2014 10:41 AM (Pr6hk)

112 I'm ready for a Irish democracy movement where four or five state governors and their atty generals publicly encourage their citizens to forgo paying federal income taxes.  That no harm will come to them from within the state and the states will actively thwart any attempt by the feds to go after their citizens.  Anarchy.  A soft , federalist succession.

Democrats / progs have broken the system.  Rinos jumped on.  The future is States-rights and that deals with the D.C./K-St problem.   If only.   Never happen.  I'd pay to see the movie though..

Posted by: Yip at January 27, 2014 10:41 AM (/jHWN)

113 Notice how Rubio's name is not mentioned anymore with regard toÂ…anything?

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 10:42 AM (A98Xu)

114 Three hundred million people no longer have to worry about being raped by their progressive betters - Obamacare does it for them! Go for it, flyover country peasants! Take that up the rectum. Harder, harder, harder! Shout it from the rooftops! And kiss your future good-bye!

Posted by: Hmmmmmmm at January 27, 2014 10:42 AM (tv7DV)

115 Irish Democracy was because the British didn't let them have guns. 

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 10:42 AM (4JkHl)

116

Obama walks into a bar on the night of the SOTU and orders a beer.

 

The bartender says,  " Hello Mr. President .  How did the speech go?"

 

Obama replies,  " Oh shit.  That's tonight? "

Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 10:42 AM (m2CN7)

117

"Glenn Reynolds writes of "Irish democracy" in his USAToday column -- killing a law by passive resistance to it, or even active flouting of it."

 

James Madison basically said it should be done by the states in Federalist #46.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2014 10:42 AM (YYJjz)

118 There should be some Rollins Band up top.

Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 10:42 AM (wnWUK)

119 What do we have to do to attract a better class of troll around here?
Free Swiss cheese.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (NU/ou)

120

"Lie of the Year"???  I called bullshit years ago

Posted by: Joe Wilson at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (Pr6hk)

121 Posted by: Regular Moron at January 27, 2014 02:42 PM (oGrEy) *cough*PSA*cough*

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (GaqMa)

122 I'm not obliged to provide the KY and anal lube. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 27, 2014 02:33 PM (zF6Iw) Covered under Ocare?

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (fWAjv)

123 That way, it will be so much easier!

Posted by: Army of Liberal Media Mouthpieces at January 27, 2014 02:28 PM (Oa7B2)

 

As easy as Form 1040 and as convenient as registering a motor vehicle!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (hLRSq)

124 Here I come to save the day!

Posted by: Hi! Speed! Rail! at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (ULH4o)

125 "He's probably going to go full socialist in tomorows SOTU. Income inequality, minimum wage, universal pre-k, etc."

But of course it's absolutely guaranteed that the Republican response to any SOTU message involving income inequality will completely avoid the topic of the lavish champagne socialism practiced by the Obamas in their own person.

Whereas if the GOP actually had the spines to go after that point with an attack, it could be absolutely devastating. The Obama reality versus the Obama rhetoric.

Barack talking up the plight of the poor while simultaneously Michelle throws hugely luxurious celebrity-studded White House parties. Parties where everyone officially checks their mobile phones at the door with security, to prevent the commoners from seeing how much costly fun their betters are having at public expense.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (gqT4g)

126 My insurance continues to confuse me, but I think my deductible went up 2500 dollars and my co-pay went up 5% and now I have a co-pay for emergency room care. Plus, no one is really clear yet if I can still use the same doctor. The best answer I got was "try it and see" hahaha. But! I pay $150 less a month for my premium. So I guess I will just sock that away to pay toward the increased co-pays.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (RZ8pf)

127 Of those, Obmacare has enticed... 15% to sign up. 85% of the previously uninsured remain uninsured.
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Math is hard

Posted by: President Barbie Obama at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (P3U0f)

128 Posted by: Hmmm at January 27, 2014 02:37 PM (fWAjv) A Communist is a person who has NOTHING, and wants to share it with you.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (bb5+k)

129 There was a problem, pre-O-Care, but it wasn't that people weren't getting care. Case in point my niece. Poor as a church mouse, kept having seizures, shuffled from hospital to hospital, doctor to doctor. Finally got the right diagnosis, the hospital forgave her bills cause she had a min wage income and no savings, the drug company gave her what she needed for practically nothing. We were going to pitch in and get her catastrophic insurance, but then O-Care made it too comprehensive and too expensive. Thanks, ObamaCare, for narrowing our options to zip.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 27, 2014 10:43 AM (pginn)

130 The Telegraph: First picture of Peter Capaldi's Doctor Who costume revealed

They'll be hearing from my lawyers!!!!

Posted by: David "POW!" Sirota [/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 10:44 AM (cxs6V)

131 And who benefits from the Obamacide debacle?  Only two groups.  The insurance companies who are crying crocodile tears and the biggest group of all that benefits from all Democrat/commie/Obama programs.  The member of the FSA who do not pay a damn thing for their healthcare.  They get it free, they get food free, they get welfare, and most of all, they get to VOTE.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 27, 2014 10:45 AM (T2V/1)

132 Ahem - uh, Mr. President. I've been waiting for the train for 4 fucking years, now.

Posted by: A Salmon at January 27, 2014 10:45 AM (wnWUK)

133 Let me say something Barry.... I'm smaaart

Posted by: Fredo Biden at January 27, 2014 10:46 AM (Pr6hk)

134 "I can't wait to see how Obama tries to spin the failure of Obamacare tomorrow night"

He won't even talk about it. It's a done deal, old news, problem solved, taken care of. It's working fine, not a problem. nothing to worry about. Everyone is happy, everyone has insurance now. Nothing to talk about. completely not relevant to the new and very serious problems we have to address NOW!

Take it to the street, protest the Rparty and their obstructionist sabotage. Arrest the traitorous conservatives, the real enemies of the state, the extremist reactionaries, running dog republicans who steal from the poor and oppress black people.

Posted by: Yukin Flambeau at January 27, 2014 10:46 AM (8NlwM)

135

Cruz on FNC now.

Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2014 10:46 AM (vlwRu)

136 The end result of all this will be to spend a lot of money, expand government dependence (through Medicaid and Medicare), and expand the bureaucracy. In short, it's a Democrat Permanent Majority Agenda.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 10:46 AM (MMC8r)

137
My only quantum of solace is knowing that some oblather voters are taking the steel shaft up the schincter and out the mouth with obamacare.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 10:47 AM (n0DEs)

138 Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2014 02:45 PM (T2V/1) The insurance companies are not doing as well as you're thinking. If they were, there would be no talk of a bail-out (or "risk corridors" or whatever). They're taking it on the chin- which was the point of ObamaCare. Now, I don't really feel like defending them- they made their bed, they can lie in it- but let's not pretend that they're sitting somewhere drinking champagne and laughing down their noses at the rest of us.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 10:47 AM (PYAXX)

139 Wild cards: high speed rail and prosperity zones.
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Isn't high speed railing already part of Obamacare?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 27, 2014 10:47 AM (P3U0f)

140 @88:

These stoopid wingnutz are too dumb to realize that Obamacare is all about deconstructing their fantasy of the monad-Randian self-made-man. 

Especially the provision where the girl gets thrown into the volcano in Philadelphia.

Posted by: ERG! at January 27, 2014 10:47 AM (9F2c1)

141 Since we're over #100, here's Jedediah Bila (and some other chick) for no reason other than OMG SHE'S SO FUCKING HOT! http://tinyurl.com/l4ta282

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 27, 2014 10:48 AM (7ObY1)

142 Should have let me drive the Third Army to Moscow...

Posted by: George S. Patton at January 27, 2014 10:48 AM (Pr6hk)

143 We took a Christian Share Plan because we would have been ass raped by the Obamacare plans available to us. Our premiums tripled and our deductible doubled. And we don't EVER use insurance. We had a catastrophic care plan. Available to us because of our good health. That plan is long gone.

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 10:48 AM (A98Xu)

144 139
My only quantum of solace is knowing that some oblather voters are taking the steel shaft up the schincter and out the mouth with obamacare.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 02:47 PM (n0DEs)


But..but...nobody told us we'd have to PAY for it!

Posted by: Oblather voters at January 27, 2014 10:48 AM (RD7QR)

145 @127 The last GOP operative that went for the throat was lee atwater. The GOP is all out of devastating.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2014 10:48 AM (53Nsb)

146 Thanks, ObamaCare, for narrowing our options to zip.
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Sometimes you just gotta take the pain pills and...go away.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 27, 2014 10:49 AM (P3U0f)

147 Whereas if the GOP actually had the spines to go after that point with an attack, it could be absolutely devastating. The Obama reality versus the Obama rhetoric. Barack talking up the plight of the poor while simultaneously Michelle throws hugely luxurious celebrity-studded White House parties. I don't know. Nothing along those lines has happened despite their numerous other vacations flying on separate planes. Michelle Obama was chilling with Oprah in Oprah's house fer crying out loud. Nobody seems to care.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 10:49 AM (o4Xc4)

148
Apologize?

A Democrat?

Hell, when is the last time any one of the left wing assholes bothered feeling any remorse for anything?

I can't think of any time. To be a Democrat is to not have morality, or a conscience.

Hateful awful people.

The GOP idiots are marginally better, but they are as heartless.



Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at January 27, 2014 10:49 AM (HQml1)

149 115 Notice how Rubio's name is not mentioned anymore with regard toÂ…anything? It's not just his support for a dumb immigration policy but Schumer's complete pwnage of him. Rubio gives a good speech but he isn't smart, strategically.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2014 10:49 AM (T0NGe)

150 I can't wait to see how Obama tries to spin the failure of Obamacare tomorrow night

Really? He'll say the website had a bit of a rocky start, but once he heard about the problem, he fixed it right up, and things are amazing now.

Next he'll give a Heartwarming Anecdote™ about some Julia who has insurance now.

Then it's off to income equality!

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 27, 2014 10:49 AM (RUvjp)

151

The only issue I'd take with Glenn's article is that he mistakenly asserts that the Supremacy Clause prevents the states from nullifying federal legislation.

 

This is untrue.  The actual wording of the clause only applies to federal laws that are made pursuant to the Constitution.  Those that are not are null even before a state or several states act to make it official.

 

At least that's the way it should be.

 

So far, nullification has only been tested a few times.  It failed largely because of the threat of federal armed invasion.  I doubt the federal government would have the courage to actually try to invade a state for nullifying illegal laws like ObamaCare or the war on (some) drugs.

 

It's also about time we lower the curtain on the whole "judicial review" experiment, as well.  The SCOTUS does not have the authority to declare illegal laws to be constitutional, depending on who gets to pack the court with their appointees. 

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2014 10:49 AM (YYJjz)

152 Yes, let's talk about healthcare

Posted by: Hipster in Pajamas at January 27, 2014 10:49 AM (Pr6hk)

153 Apologize? A Democrat? Hell, when is the last time any one of the left wing assholes bothered feeling any remorse for anything? They always double down. Failure IS an option.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2014 10:50 AM (T0NGe)

154 SOTUS drinking game. Every time I, me or my is mentioned take a shot.

Which means in about two minutes, you will be plastered.

Actually. Just get plastered and skip the pain.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 27, 2014 10:50 AM (GGCsk)

155 But..but...nobody told us we'd have to PAY for it!
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Shut up you wingnut traitor!

Posted by: Liberals with Union Healthcare plans on leftist websites at January 27, 2014 10:50 AM (P3U0f)

156 Yes, when Schumer can outsmart you, you're really dumb.

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 10:50 AM (A98Xu)

157

>>>>A Communist is a person who has NOTHING, and wants to share it with you.

 

I don't go very often, but when I go to the farmer's market there's these socialist action guys hanging out, haraguing people. They actually do wear the Mao uniforms, red star and etc. They look like something out of central casting, just scowly and miserable and vulpine.

 

In other States I imagine they'd get the shit kicked out of them. Here in NY its mostly just tsk tsk look at the retards. But I guess they must gain something from it or they wouldn't do it.

 

I think the Amish farmers are exempt from the haranguing, though.

Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 10:50 AM (3ZtZW)

158 The GOP response will be the first salvo in the fight against the T.P.   The GOP will likely acknowledge again the there was "something needed to be done about healthcare" when that is far from obvious but was teh donk premise...   and too they'll roll out their take on the inequality gap , again a donk false premise, and then for the coup de gras, they'll acknowledge that something MUST be done about immigration and the unfair system the way it is.

Also, mag-lev trains for the NE states and some new kewl take on home ownership/student loans/ min wage/ pot legalization/ gay marriage/ defense CUTS/ urban prosperity zones, etc.

Thanks GOP!

Posted by: Yip at January 27, 2014 10:50 AM (/jHWN)

159 How many people who signed up are actually going to...you know...send in a check? 75%?

Posted by: I need a cool new sig at January 27, 2014 10:50 AM (q177U)

160 And, should anyone hear some lib tell them that we should go to free healthcare with single payer, ask them how people who can't afford insurance NOW are going to pay the 20% VAT tax on most everything they buy like the Brits do.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 10:51 AM (MMC8r)

161 Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 02:50 PM (3ZtZW) You need to organize a counter movement where people show up (for shifts) to point and laugh at the commies.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 10:51 AM (PYAXX)

162 Barry, time to make this Mr. Cruz an unperson.

Posted by: Joseph Stalin at January 27, 2014 10:51 AM (Pr6hk)

163 They always double down. Failure IS an option. ItÂ’s a requirement. What the hell good does success do you?

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 27, 2014 10:51 AM (QF8uk)

164 Since we're over #100, here's Jedediah Bila (and some other chick) for no reason... Why does the hottie have a prospector's name?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 10:52 AM (o4Xc4)

165 State of the Union? looks fine from where I'm sitting. rose colored glasses. /hai-coup

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon[/b][/s][/i] at January 27, 2014 10:52 AM (g4TxM)

166 I don't know. Nothing along those lines has happened despite their numerous other vacations flying on separate planes. Michelle Obama was chilling with Oprah in Oprah's house fer crying out loud. Nobody seems to care.
***
If it isn't on Dancing with the Stars or John Stewart the LIVs don't know about it.

Of course a Republican with guts could buy an ad on one of those shows that's made to be for a fake fashion magazine...it could be...devastating...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 27, 2014 10:52 AM (P3U0f)

167 >>Really? He'll say the website had a bit of a rocky start, but once he heard about the problem, he fixed it right up, and things are amazing now. And nobody with a functioning frontal cortex will believe it. You could spin Obamacare as the most awesomest thing ever to come down the pike before it was implemented. Now, not so much. The average polling on Obamacare has it 15 points underwater and sinking fast. It's no big secret why guys like Moran are parachuting out of the House, they see disaster on the horizon and they are getting out while they can.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2014 10:52 AM (g1DWB)

168 Ted Cruz is just another version of Clarence Thomas. He's probably the dumbest Senator with the least amount of credentials. Bob Scheiffert actually laughed at him!

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 10:52 AM (PRPp1)

169 161 How many people who signed up are actually going to...you know...send in a check? 75%? Posted by: I need a cool new sig at January 27, 2014 02:50 PM (q177U) I don't understand this either. What schmuck is going to pay this knowing it's all about the "free" in this country. I wouldn't.

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 10:53 AM (A98Xu)

170 By the way, Obama will just say "free condoms, free birth control, free student loans, free Obamaphones, free Pre-K  (for the mothers our there), "do I need to remind you about the racist Republicans trying to steal your abortion rights?- and the same useful idiots who voted twice for him will come scrambling back to daddy.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 27, 2014 10:53 AM (GGCsk)

171

@ 162 - "And, should anyone hear some lib tell them that we should go to free healthcare with single payer, ask them how people who can't afford insurance NOW are going to pay the 20% VAT tax on most everything they buy like the Brits do."

 

They don't care.  "Helping poor people" is not what government control of health care is about.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2014 10:53 AM (YYJjz)

172 how people who can't afford insurance NOW are going to pay the 20% VAT tax on most everything they buy like the Brits do.
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The same way they do in Europe. The middle class will live less material well to "protect the environment".

Posted by: 18-1 at January 27, 2014 10:54 AM (P3U0f)

173 162 And, should anyone hear some lib tell them that we should go to free healthcare with single payer, ask them how people who can't afford insurance NOW are going to pay the 20% VAT tax on most everything they buy like the Brits do.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 02:51 PM (MMC8r)


Oh, they'll just seize everybody's 401(k), then it will be solved. Well, at least until they have the votes for a VAT.

Posted by: joncelli at January 27, 2014 10:54 AM (RD7QR)

174 Of course a Republican with guts could buy an ad on one of those shows that's made to be for a fake fashion magazine...it could be...devastating... Really... they can't. I can't remember the details, but I recall during the last Governor's race, Rick Perry tried to buy some advertising on one of the Top 20 stations here in DFW- and the station (actually... it may have been all of the Cumulus stations in the area) refused. The MFM has *no* problem saying no to Republican advertising dollars. Heck, they don't have a problem with editing recorded comments as deceptively as possible. What we need are new ways to get our message out.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 10:55 AM (PYAXX)

175 OT... who here absolutely loved the wide-stance Grammy's last night...

Posted by: Larry Craig at January 27, 2014 10:55 AM (Pr6hk)

176 I doubt the federal government would have the courage to actually try to invade a state for nullifying illegal laws like ObamaCare or the war on (some) drugs. I seriously doubt they'd invade. They'll happily sic the NSA and IRS on everybody involved though. They might even sit agents on the exit roads and grab every official as they leave the state.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 10:55 AM (o4Xc4)

177
This just gives the media, Democrats and his fellow Republicans another opportunity to ridicule and mock Cruz.

After 2012 I've lost my deep interest in politics. The GOP is so stupid and predictable that following them is a frustrating waste of time and effort.

Cruz and Paul are the only two Republicans worth a shart. Which means their days in the GOP are numbered.

It will be Christie v Hillary! in 2016.

Under President Hillary! the U.S. will really founder and finally elect a Republican president in 2020. But by then the toothpaste is all gone from the tube.

With the next six years figured out it's time to watch some Green Acres and get some laughs out of life.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 27, 2014 10:55 AM (tOkJB)

178 171 Ted Cruz is just another version of Clarence Thomas.

He's probably the dumbest Senator with the least amount of credentials.

What do you have against Hispanic senators and black judges, you racist?

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at January 27, 2014 10:55 AM (9F2c1)

179
Bob Scheiffert actually laughed at him!

Bob Scheiffert laughs at everything, he is more senile than Biden and Hillary, and that is saying something.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 10:56 AM (n0DEs)

180 @175.  Exactly.  Helping the poor isn't even on their radar, the poor, to them, is merely an emotional hot-button that they press to get results when they feel the need to advance their agenda.  They could care less whether any actual human being anywhere benefited from their actions as long as it brings the world one step closer into line with The Agenda.

Posted by: Cato at January 27, 2014 10:56 AM (i+Vw2)

181

>>>>You need to organize a counter movement where people show up (for shifts) to point and laugh at the commies.

 

Its almost giving them too much creedence.

Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 10:57 AM (3ZtZW)

182 Of those, Obmacare has enticed... 15% to sign up. 85% of the previously uninsured remain uninsured.


Hah.  A societal crisis averted.  And it only took the destruction of the U.S. medical care delivery system to pull it off.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 10:57 AM (8ZskC)

183 I would really like to know who it is that decides that "something must be done about health care" or "we have to do something about immigration now."

There's always a sense of urgency and then something gets rammed through Congress and then  taxpayers get rammed in the ass.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2014 10:57 AM (QW+AD)

184 What do you have against Hispanic senators and black judges, you racist? ------------------------------- Nothing as long as they aren't puppets of the RWNJ faction of their party. They are dupes being used by the real racists--people like you!

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 10:57 AM (PRPp1)

185 Its almost giving them too much creedence. But it would be funny.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 10:57 AM (PYAXX)

186

The only two things that are going to right this sinking ship is states' nullification and/or secession or threat of secession.

 

 

I agree with Titus on the nullification question.  It  shouldn't be too hard for states to conclude that Ocare is un-Constitutional.   It's not rocket science.

Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2014 10:57 AM (vlwRu)

187 Apropos of nothing- all trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 10:58 AM (PYAXX)

188 Actually what we really need to do with the SOTU address is eliminate it.  It ceased being about the actual state of the union about 100 years ago.


It is now nothing more that a hot air gas bad political speech with free TV coverage. If the TV netwroks would quit covering it it would go away.



And remember one other thing, the networks did cut the coverage for Bush's.  Not so IIRC on Obama's.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 27, 2014 10:58 AM (T2V/1)

189 Who sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: Adam at January 27, 2014 10:58 AM (7WJR1)

190 Kind of down about the SOTU. Obama's just like FDR--he's going to try to steamroll the country. Not sure if anyone on our side has the standing or strategy to fight back. Hard to imagine three more years of this.

Posted by: Caliban at January 27, 2014 10:58 AM (DrC22)

191 The GOP's response: comprehensive immigration reform.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2014 10:58 AM (X9npt)

192 I saw Irish Democracy open for Dick Dictatorship and His Dicktaster at CBGB's in '77.

Posted by: Axl Rose at January 27, 2014 10:58 AM (iWo0u)

193 191 Apropos of nothing- all trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 02:58 PM (PYAXX)


Indeed -- and it's my understanding that he sucks cocks by choice.

Posted by: joncelli at January 27, 2014 10:59 AM (RD7QR)

194 161 How many people who signed up are actually going to...you know...send in a check? 75%? It's between that number and zero in the State I'm working within. Certainly nowhere near "100% of the enrollees have actually effectuated coverage". Counting numbers of enrollees was always pointless. Look, squirrel!

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 27, 2014 10:59 AM (+8Yuj)

195

189 Hey, don't get me wrong - it would.

 

Problem is, these are the bottom rung guys. Stupid, easily used, angry and kind of want the attention or arrests. The real threats are the successful ones, of which NY has plenty to make fun of.

Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 10:59 AM (3ZtZW)

196 All signs point to 'are you kidding?'

Posted by: Magic 8 Ball at January 27, 2014 10:59 AM (Pr6hk)

197 Only I can save you now.

Posted by: Legal Weed!!! [/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 10:59 AM (5ikDv)

198 He's probably the dumbest Senator with the least amount of credentials. Well, since Obama, Clinton, and Biden left, the bar HAS been raised a bit.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 11:00 AM (MMC8r)

199 The GOP's response; Vote for us; we'll lie to you less often.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 27, 2014 11:00 AM (GGCsk)

200 Its almost giving them too much creedence. Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 02:57 PM ---------------------------------------------------- Too much Creedence? No such thing.

Posted by: Born on the Bayou at January 27, 2014 11:00 AM (8GKDa)

201

I am not sure why Miguel is such a racist, his two dads didn't raise him very well between taking turns on the ass rape.  But maybe his new boyfriend can help to correct the situation.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 11:00 AM (n0DEs)

202

Of those, Obmacare has enticed... 15% to sign up. 85% of the previously uninsured remain uninsured.

 

 

Of that 15%, how many went on Medicaid?  Which,   I'm sorry,   is not     insurance.

 

And of the remaining 85% who were previously uninsured, how many of them remain uninsured because they A) didn't want to be insured in the first place, so it never mattered to them, and B) as a result don't realize that they're SUPPOSED to have insurance, and C) have been completely ignoring the Obammycare debacle because they don't think it applies to them?

 

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:00 AM (4df7R)

203 201 Only I can save you now.

Posted by: Legal Weed!!! at January 27, 2014 02:59 PM (5ikDv)


Back off, bitch.

Posted by: High-speed rail at January 27, 2014 11:00 AM (RD7QR)

204

Is that  a real troll? 

 

Frankly, I hope so.  I really dislike the fakes. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2014 11:00 AM (TOk1P)

205 >>Ted Cruz is just another version of Clarence Thomas. >>He's probably the dumbest Senator with the least amount of credentials. >>Bob Scheiffert actually laughed at him! Yea, its not like he was a state senator who's entire career was comprised of voting present or an ex-first lady who had a senate seat bought for her. I can't wait to hear about all of Hillary's accomplishments. Note, having her boss refuse to give her a letter of recommendation when she was a congressional staffer because she was so dishonest doesn't count. As to dumb, as long as we have guys like Bernie Sanders, Chuckie Schumer and Dick Durbin and stunts like that bridge troll from MD and dumb as stump don't call me ma'am Boxer, Cruz is safe.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2014 11:01 AM (g1DWB)

206 I'm sorry that you were stupid enough to believe me.

Posted by: Barky McBamastain at January 27, 2014 11:01 AM (Pr6hk)

207 I would really like to know who it is that decides that "something must be done about health care" or "we have to do something about immigration now." There's always a sense of urgency and then something gets rammed through Congress and then taxpayers get rammed in the ass. There's a core hive-mind that resides in the lefty think-tanks and NE corridor halls of power. They do their planning and strategeries based on their feeling for what they can get away with. Then they invoke their right of howler monkey control and set the news media and professional activists loose. They get everyone beating the drum, then they watch public opinion. When everyone is saying the right things, they loose the bills. It's an entire machine, and they have it finely tuned.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 11:01 AM (o4Xc4)

208 US middle class neighborhood after Obama leaves office


http://www.shorpy.com/node/16894?size=_original#caption

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 27, 2014 11:01 AM (T2V/1)

209 Way OT but Daily Mail has a piece about a Japanese company (natch) that is making a smart bra that unlatches when their heart rate goes up. True love, or something.
 
http://tinyurl.com/lrfy444
 
Here's my effort in 6 words -- There's a spider in your hair.
 
In 4 words -- I banged your sister.
 
In 3 words -- Bought a Vette.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2014 11:02 AM (wNF3N)

210 Not Ted!... we need to move to the center

Posted by: Karl Rove at January 27, 2014 11:02 AM (Pr6hk)

211 Ted Cruz is so stupid he hasn't even managed to destroy and economy and a healthcare system. That takes smarts.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 11:02 AM (MMC8r)

212 You just can't handle the fact that Paul Thomas Anderson hates you and that Ted Cruz throwing a woman into a volcano in Philadelphia refutes your simplistic view of the world.  Go watch Robert Downey Jr. movies. 

Posted by: ERG! at January 27, 2014 11:02 AM (9F2c1)

213 I am not sure why Miguel is such a racist, his two dads didn't raise him very well between taking turns on the ass rape. But maybe his new boyfriend can help to correct the situation. ---------------------------------- Racist homophobe. How predictable. Why don't you go back to your all white Elks Lodge, or wherever the fuck you hangout and talk about the good 'ol days when people knew their place. Nice racist name too. 'Mohawk.' I'm sure that's intended as some sort of honorable mention to the real Americans.

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:03 AM (PRPp1)

214 "Lie of the Year"????  I don't think the heavy stuff will come down for quite a while.

Posted by: Carl Spackler at January 27, 2014 11:03 AM (Pr6hk)

215 There's always a sense of urgency and then something gets rammed through Congress and then taxpayers get rammed in the ass. Cultivating crisis is the route to greater and greater power.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 11:03 AM (MMC8r)

216 Did someone say high-speed weed?

Posted by: Stoners Everywhere at January 27, 2014 11:03 AM (8GKDa)

217 Obama's primary SOTU theme is going to be STFU. He will bitch slap Congressional Repubs on everything from amnesty to climate intransigence, forgetting for a moment that he has made zero proposals himself on any of these so-called "issues". He will whine about budget battles and the upcoming bi-weekly debt ceiling "negotiations" which won't be negotiations. He will threaten anti-Constitutional overreach, for the Middle Class y'all. In short, TFG will keep on, keepin' on. Tyranny is just OK with him.

Posted by: MTF at January 27, 2014 11:03 AM (EKQk0)

218 have been completely ignoring the Obammycare debacle because they don't think it applies to them?
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Uh, Obamacard? I haven't gotten one in the mail yet, so that must mean my health care is free...right?

Posted by: Some LIV at January 27, 2014 11:04 AM (P3U0f)

219 Obama is metaphysically incapable of accepting that he has ever lied, made a mistake, or simply has no idea what he is talking about.

The man is considered Narcissus personified for a reason.

All he can do is snipe at others, be petty, and lie.  He is the very picture of today's Democrats.

Posted by: acethepug at January 27, 2014 11:04 AM (qZX7h)

220

(Yawn)

 

It's a fake. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2014 11:04 AM (TOk1P)

221 Doctor Who is a vampire?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 27, 2014 11:04 AM (RZ8pf)

222

>>>a smart bra that unlatches when their heart rate goes up.

 

The cups oughta glow, too, like in Top Secret

Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 11:04 AM (3ZtZW)

223 Oh my . Someone from Madison is posting again.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2014 11:04 AM (P6QsQ)

224 'guel ain't even a good sock, Average Joe. You've lost it.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 11:05 AM (MMC8r)

225 Way OT but Daily Mail has a piece about a Japanese company (natch) that is making a smart bra that unlatches when their heart rate goes up. True love, or something. Don't climb any stairs, or jog to catch the elevator. *sproing* Free boobies!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 11:05 AM (o4Xc4)

226

Did someone actually use the      fact     of Bob Schieffer laughing at Ted    Cruz as "evidence" that Ted Cruz   is stupid?   

 

Did this troll not stop to think about the fact that Bob Schieffer    has one foot in the grave and the other in an   old folks' home for the dangerously senile?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:05 AM (4df7R)

227 Tyranny is just OK with him.
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You wingnuts and your heteronormative notions of freedom.

Rather then freedom from things, we are going to give you freedom to do the things we want you to do. And in the end it will be enough.

Now get back to work, these Waygu steaks aren't going to pay for themselves.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 27, 2014 11:05 AM (P3U0f)

228 224 Obama is metaphysically incapable of accepting that he has ever lied, made a mistake, or simply has no idea what he is talking about. The man is considered Narcissus personified for a reason. All he can do is snipe at others, be petty, and lie. He is the very picture of today's Democrats. Posted by: acethepug at January 27, 2014 03:04 PM (qZX7h) A passive-aggressive tyrant.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2014 11:06 AM (T0NGe)

229
Ah Miguel my new gay friend, your racism is reaching new heights but I didn't mean to demean your two dads as clearly you needed the banging up the backside.  But please don't talk about my Indian heritage, I have high cheekbones and a lobster recipe.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 11:06 AM (n0DEs)

230 Irish  Democracy?

Passive resistance?

This generation is just holding out and waiting for a better offer that includes a free X-box or iPhone.

Only then will they sell their soul.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 27, 2014 11:06 AM (GGCsk)

231 Miguel is getting all fiery and PMSy. You go girl. You tell all us racist, sexist, homophobes what's what. Your emotional context is great! (We all understand what it's like to be emotionally invested and find out we supported a turdÂ…See:McCain.)

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 11:06 AM (A98Xu)

232 Why does the hottie have a prospector's name? Don't know, don't care. With a bod like that and a face like buttah, I'd hit that if her name was Jethro.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 27, 2014 11:06 AM (7ObY1)

233 I think these trolls are freaking hilarious. 

Posted by: Bob Schieffer at January 27, 2014 11:06 AM (9F2c1)

234

I hope Obama shows us his pen and his phone during his SOTU speech.  Not that I can stomach watching it.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2014 11:07 AM (QW+AD)

235 Who the hell is Bob Scheiffert? Dumbass!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon[/b][/s][/i] at January 27, 2014 11:07 AM (g4TxM)

236 Stephen Glass denied law license...man, they are making him pay for revealing the depth of left-wing bias.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 27, 2014 11:07 AM (Ec6wH)

237 It's a tax yo!

Posted by: Justice Roberts at January 27, 2014 11:07 AM (wF/yx)

238 But why does Miguel hate Latinos? Such racism. Disgusting.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 27, 2014 11:07 AM (7ObY1)

239 Shoot, the troll is a fake? I've been duped againÂ….See:McCain.

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 11:07 AM (A98Xu)

240 Bob Scheiffer is the only journalist with the credibility to sign off with '23 Skidoo!'

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 11:08 AM (MMC8r)

241 Mommy I lost my sock! Did you hide it again mommy? I'm getting horny and I need my sock!

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:08 AM (7WJR1)

242 Didn't we used to track down trolls by using their IP addresses and then kill them and everyone they know? Wow, this place has really dropped off.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2014 11:08 AM (oFCZn)

243 I don't remember Pertwee (the best Doctor) acting like a street magician, er, illusionist.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 27, 2014 11:08 AM (zZLRY)

244 245 Bob Scheiffer is the only journalist with the credibility to sign off with '23 Skidoo!' Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 03:08 PM (MMC8r) HA!

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 11:08 AM (A98Xu)

245 So I see the deep intellectuals on the vaunted Ace of Spades HQ are of the average name calling variety. I thought you guys were supposed to be a 'smart' blog. Now fling some poo, wingers!

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:08 AM (PRPp1)

246
damn it, I want a real troll.  I have shaming to do.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 11:08 AM (n0DEs)

247 Irish Democracy was a shitty album.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2014 11:09 AM (Kqtqx)

248 I hope Obama shows us his pen and his phone during his SOTU speech. Not that I can stomach watching it.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2014 03:07 PM (QW+AD)

 

 

It'd be hilarious if he brought out a big ole landline-style phone, with    one of those twisty cords.   That'll really get the youth in this country on his side.  "What the fuck is that thing Obama's carrying around?   Is that an anvil?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:09 AM (4df7R)

249 The important question is if Miguel has read The Illiad in its original Latin?

Posted by: Adam at January 27, 2014 11:09 AM (7WJR1)

250 @240 Seamus That reminded me of curious, and what she mistakenly thought Rush Limbaugh's name was. I can't remember what she used to call him. Now it's going to bug me.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2014 11:09 AM (P6QsQ)

251 remember when GEORGE GLASS was JAN's fake boyfriend?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 27, 2014 11:10 AM (zZLRY)

252 Name-calling troll calls us name-calling trolls. Recursion troll recurses recursively, proves Hawking's latest theory.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 11:10 AM (MMC8r)

253 Is that Miguel guy saying something we're supposed to respond to? I missed it, if so.

Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 11:10 AM (3ZtZW)

254 The Pilgrims hadn't been on land 48 hours before they were attacked by Stone Age natives. A few weeks before they landed at Plymouth, when they stopped near the tip of the Cape for fresh water (Myles wantee beer?). Fuck them and the rest of the Nipmucs who merrily roasted settlers alive.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2014 11:11 AM (ZshNr)

255 255 The important question is if Miguel has read The Illiad in its original Latin? Posted by: Adam at January 27, 2014 03:09 PM (7WJR1)Now that's funny!

Posted by: tubal at January 27, 2014 11:11 AM (YEQ2h)

256 The important question is if Miguel has read The Illiad in its original Latin?
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I learned enough Latin to order a cerveza when I went to Mexico.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 27, 2014 11:12 AM (P3U0f)

257 One life saved from stricter gun control = morally justified 5 million people losing health insurance = a few eggs.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 27, 2014 11:12 AM (fT3qO)

258 The important question is if Miguel has read The Illiad in its original Latin? --------------------------- I'd wager I've read more Latin that you have, unless you're a Classics professor. And it IS important to read in original languages. I'll help you out...repeat after me: UG. ME HATE ANYONE NOT LIKE ME. That's orignal teabagger, right there.

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:12 AM (PRPp1)

259 Do you think we can get all the young Republicans to click their pens while Obama is talking.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 11:12 AM (tGqH3)

260 Recursion troll recurses recursively, proves Hawking's latest theory.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 03:10 PM (MMC8r)

 

And the world is    destroyed by a black hole of troll suck.

 

What a   dick.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:12 AM (4df7R)

261 5 million people losing health insurance = a few eggs. And the rates go up for everyone else.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 11:12 AM (MMC8r)

262 Didn't we used to track down trolls by using their IP addresses and then kill them and everyone they know?

Do not tempt me.  I'm trying to be less angry.

Posted by: GMan at January 27, 2014 11:13 AM (sxq57)

263

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at January 27, 2014 03:09 PM (4df7R)

 

nah, he'll whip out his Blackberry and give us wingers the business for being un-governable

 

 

 

Posted by: The Secret Sock at January 27, 2014 11:13 AM (wF/yx)

264 The important question is if Miguel has read The Illiad in its original Latin? Venetus A is written in ancient Greek. Is there a Latin manuscript?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 11:13 AM (o4Xc4)

265 ...and let me tell you, I know a thing or two about being teabagged.

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:13 AM (P3U0f)

266 I learned enough Latin to order a cerveza when I went to Mexico.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 27, 2014 03:12 PM (P3U0f)

 

Admit it, Joey.   You asked the bartender for a cervix, didn't you?       So    they cut off your penis.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:13 AM (4df7R)

267

>>>I'd wager I've read more Latin that you have, unless you're a Classics professor.

 

Like what?

Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 11:13 AM (3ZtZW)

268 Mr. Aguilar was so sensitive, Mr. Cropper said, that he stopped eating meat after watching a documentary on animal cruelty. “From that point on, he became a vegan,” Mr. Cropper said. “That’s the person he was.” Well, if we all could watch that video, we would be like me a Vegan and just kill people.

Posted by: Zombie Adolf Hitler, your favorite vegan at January 27, 2014 11:13 AM (0FSuD)

269 >>Venetus A is written in ancient Greek. Is there a Latin manuscript? Shhh.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2014 11:13 AM (g1DWB)

270 Ooo, he bit on the latin bit like erg did on the volcano.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 11:14 AM (MMC8r)

271 nah, he'll whip out his Blackberry and give us wingers the business for being un-governable


Posted by: The Secret Sock at January 27, 2014 03:13 PM (wF/yx)

 

Because NOTHING says "technologically forward and hip" like a Blackberry.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:14 AM (4df7R)

272

262 -

 

Only Latin word I know is Beano.  That's what I take before  I get my authentic Mexican food at Taco Bell. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2014 11:14 AM (TOk1P)

273 So he has read it in the original Latin! Now I wonder if he knows what city was the capital of Hungary before Sarajevo.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon[/b][/s][/i] at January 27, 2014 11:15 AM (g4TxM)

274
And by more Latin than you.....I mean all my Spanish and Mexican boyfriends.

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:15 AM (n0DEs)

275 Hollywood and TV are going to start a bombardment campaign to make people love Obamacare but I seriously doubt it will make any difference. You can convince people a turd sandwich isn't so bad if they don't have to take a bite, but when you force everyone to eat it whole...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 27, 2014 11:16 AM (zfY+H)

276 I think real trolls are afraid to post here.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 27, 2014 11:16 AM (P1WNR)

277 Are you aware of Gaul or Caesar? I thought not. You see, France isn't just a country you hate in knee-jerk fashion, and Caesar ins't just a little guy that makes your flyover country pizza.

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:16 AM (PRPp1)

278 Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 03:03 PM (PRPp1 )
Posted by: MJ (The Hostages ) at November 01, 2013 06:30 PM (PRPp1)

DERP - A - HERP

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 11:16 AM (cxs6V)

279

I've read ALL the Latin classics!  Like, er, "Grease," and, uh...

 

Posted by: Miguel Jimmy at January 27, 2014 11:16 AM (YYJjz)

280 "I'd wager I've read more Latin that you have, unless you're a Classics professor." Might want to work on your English there Chief.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 27, 2014 11:16 AM (fT3qO)

281 #264

Wow, now Miguel is hatin' on Native Americans.  He really is  a  racist  little  troll.

Posted by: Marmo at January 27, 2014 11:16 AM (QW+AD)

282 I think Joe Wilson should stand up and say. "You are STILL lying" Why not?

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 27, 2014 11:17 AM (0FSuD)

283 I don't mind when my mother bathes me but why does my dad have to watch?

Posted by: MJ at January 27, 2014 11:18 AM (P1WNR)

284 Pssst!  Joe!  They speak Mexican in Mexico.

Posted by: Obozo at January 27, 2014 11:18 AM (QW+AD)

285 Dude learned everything he needed to know about antiquity from the Total War series.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 27, 2014 11:18 AM (fT3qO)

286 The President ought to apologize in the Japanese way.
The old-fashioned Japanese way.  IYKNWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 27, 2014 11:18 AM (ZMzpb)

287 5 million people losing health insurance = a few eggs. And the rates go up for everyone else. A few more eggs.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 11:18 AM (lwkv9)

288 I think Joe Wilson should stand up and say. "You are STILL lying" Why not? Posted by: Nip Sip at January 27, 2014 03:17 PM (0FSuD) *** That would be pretty awesome!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon[/b][/s][/i] at January 27, 2014 11:18 AM (g4TxM)

289 I'd wager I've read more Latin that you have, unless you're a Classics professor. ----------------- Comprehension is hard. Does this reference the Illiad? No, but keep fighting wingers.

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:18 AM (PRPp1)

290 I mean, if you're going to apologize, do it like a Viking.  That's all I'm saying.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 27, 2014 11:19 AM (ZMzpb)

291
It is good practice though just in case a real troll shows up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 11:19 AM (n0DEs)

292 A few more eggs. And two hard-boiled eggs.

Posted by: Groucho at January 27, 2014 11:19 AM (MMC8r)

293 Are you aware of Gaul or Caesar?
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Damn straight, in fact I want to know why why don't have a holiday yet for Caesar Chavez.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 27, 2014 11:19 AM (P3U0f)

294 Been a while since I've seen a rousing game of Whack-A-Troll. God I miss the old days...

Posted by: tubal at January 27, 2014 11:19 AM (YEQ2h)

295 1 I would really like to see how many people signed up for one of the Christian cost sharing groups like we did.

My guess is that their enrollment skyrocketed.

Raises hand.


Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 27, 2014 11:19 AM (ZMzpb)

296 COME ON, how does all this talk of Ted Cruz help Michelle?

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 11:20 AM (A98Xu)

297 Hmm... so the new Dr. Who's costume is okay, but unless he's got a sweet ride,   too,   I'm giving the tie-breaker to Pertwee.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:20 AM (4df7R)

298 That was a little fun, Guy. C'mon.

Posted by: MJ at January 27, 2014 11:20 AM (PRPp1)

299 So has Soros cut back on how much he's letting MMFA pay their trolls?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 27, 2014 11:20 AM (fT3qO)

300
297 I mean, if you're going to apologize, do it like a Viking. That's all I'm saying.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 27, 2014 03:19 PM (ZMzpb)

Soorry bout de kaencelled health care bork bork bork.

Posted by: Bjorn Obama at January 27, 2014 11:21 AM (9F2c1)

301 What a dick.  [About Miguel]

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at January 27, 2014 03:12 PM (4df7R)

Well.   You are what you eat.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 27, 2014 11:21 AM (fwARV)

302

...and then kill them and everyone they know?

 

 

Back off man, that's my move.

Posted by: Keyser Soze at January 27, 2014 11:21 AM (Z7toi)

303 Are you aware of Gaul or Caesar?

============



Darn tootin'.  I've had both gall bladder surgery AND a Caesarian section.  Top that.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2014 11:21 AM (P6QsQ)

304 The President ought to apologize in the Japanese way. The old-fashioned Japanese way. IYKNWIMAITYD. Harry Cary FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 11:21 AM (lwkv9)

305

285 -

 

Yep.

 

Like I said upthread... (yawn). 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2014 11:22 AM (TOk1P)

306 300 >> Damn straight, in fact I want to know why why don't have a holiday yet for Caesar Chavez.
 
It's Cesar Chavez, and the Navy is naming a ship after him already. Isn't that enough?

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2014 11:22 AM (wNF3N)

307 Well. You are what you eat.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 27, 2014 03:21 PM (fwARV)

 

"FACT."

 

-Pink flamingoes

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:22 AM (4df7R)

308 ..and I read War and Peace in the original Swahili so eat me, teabaggers.

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:22 AM (RlUaX)

309
Yeah, it was fun.

But I need to release some righteous anger, I guess the dude at the Kwik-e-Mart better smile when overcharging me for the rotating 3 month old hot dog.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 11:22 AM (n0DEs)

310
Darn tootin'. I've had both gall bladder surgery AND a Caesarian section.
___
When I lived in Scranton we could only afford Caesarian sections...the whole pizzas cost too much.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 27, 2014 11:23 AM (P3U0f)

311 Actually the Iliad was originally memorized and recited, unless there is a manuscript in linear A somewhere.

Posted by: goldberg variations at January 27, 2014 11:23 AM (Kxz3Y)

312 This is weird. Someone is trolling my troll name and my real name. Fuckers.

Posted by: MJ at January 27, 2014 11:23 AM (PRPp1)

313 I read War and Peace in the original Swahili so eat me, teabaggers.

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 03:22 PM (RlUaX)

No.  Seriously.  I mean it.  Eat me.  Please...

Posted by: Miguelito at January 27, 2014 11:23 AM (fwARV)

314 Now Miguel is getting all racist against Native Americans? Damn.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 27, 2014 11:24 AM (7ObY1)

315 The President has healed the economy, given free health care to millions and killed Bin Laden and yet white people still hate him. I wonder why?

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:24 AM (P1WNR)

316 Someone is trolling my troll name and my real name.
___
There are wheels within wheels man.

Posted by: Some Paulbot at January 27, 2014 11:24 AM (P3U0f)

317 The trolling algorithm MMFA has for Disqus is way better.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 27, 2014 11:24 AM (fT3qO)

318

Someone is trolling my troll name and my real name.


___


There are wheels within wheels man.

 

Posted by: Some Paulbot at January 27, 2014 03:24 PM (P3U0f)

 

 

TOP.

 

MEN.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:25 AM (4df7R)

319 The President has healed the economy
___
Sometimes you just gotta take the pain pill instead.

Posted by: Barack Obama talking to the economy at January 27, 2014 11:25 AM (P3U0f)

320 323 Someone is trolling my troll name and my real name. ___ There are wheels within wheels man. It's not me, it's erg.

Posted by: Palin Steele at January 27, 2014 11:25 AM (0FSuD)

321 Dude, give it up. No one's buying your flailing.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 11:25 AM (MMC8r)

322 Presenting the USNS Cesar Chavez:
 
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=66959

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2014 11:25 AM (wNF3N)

323

319 -

 

The ol' Gleen Grenwald defense.

 

Nice try. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2014 11:25 AM (TOk1P)

324 This is weird. Someone is trolling my troll name and my real name.

Fuckers.

Posted by: MJ

Mess with the bull, expect some shit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 11:25 AM (cxs6V)

325

>>>Are you aware of Gaul or Caesar?

 

So that's all you've read?

 

pfft

Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 11:25 AM (3ZtZW)

326 319 This is weird. Someone is trolling my troll name and my real name.

Fuckers.

Posted by: MJ at January 27, 2014 03:23 PM (PRPp1)

They're being ignorant.

Posted by: Michael Jackson at January 27, 2014 11:26 AM (9F2c1)

327

Soorry bout de kaencelled health care bork bork bork.


 

Posted by: Bjorn Obama at January 27, 2014 03:21 PM (9F2c1)

 

 

 

Damn Kenyan Scandis.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:26 AM (4df7R)

328 Grammie Winger--too funny.

Posted by: Caliban at January 27, 2014 11:26 AM (DrC22)

329 It's not me, it's erg.

Posted by: Palin Steele at January 27, 2014 03:25 PM (0FSuD)

I feel so deflated.



Posted by: Palin Steele's GF at January 27, 2014 11:26 AM (P3U0f)

330 I speak Sumerian at my local deli. But, only on Wednesday.

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:27 AM (RlUaX)

331 >>>Are you aware of Gaul or Caesar? Aren't those fellow White Devils?

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 11:27 AM (MMC8r)

332 The President ought to apologize in the Japanese way.
The old-fashioned Japanese way. IYKNWIMAITYD.


Harry Cary FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 03:21 PM (lwkv9)



Get drunk and call a Cubs game?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 27, 2014 11:27 AM (1Jaio)

333 The Mall in Columbia has re-opened with all of the predictable rending of garments and associated grief Pr0n. The management have set up special areas so people can reflect, in a UU way I am sure, on the tragedy that happened there. Oh, there will also be guest books and a place to leave memorials. WTF happened to this country? This is a place of business and NOT a Funeral Home. This Therapeudic Culture crap has really kicked it to eleventy. This being in Columbia and Maryland probably makes it ten times worse.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 27, 2014 11:27 AM (32Ze2)

334 Someone is trolling my troll name and my real name.
___
There are wheels within wheels man.

Posted by: Some Paulbot at January 27, 2014 03:24 PM (P3U0f)


TOP.

MEN. Posted by: MWR,

Take the red pill and see just how far down the rabbit hole goes.

Posted by: Morpheus at January 27, 2014 11:27 AM (n0DEs)

335 What's your favorite planet?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 27, 2014 11:27 AM (fT3qO)

336 I have to go on business trip with him tomorrow. I'm a young guy.
___
After a while you get used to it.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 27, 2014 11:27 AM (P3U0f)

337

My ex husband had to come over to my house this weekend to pick something up and he started prattling on about how great Obamacare is, etc. etc.

I couldn't kick him out fast enough.  The delusion is so strong in these people that I really believe it is a form of mental illness.  The plus side is Iam divorced from this loon so I don't have to live with this anymore.

Posted by: Cheri at January 27, 2014 11:27 AM (G+Wff)

338

This is OT, but does anyone want to give me a quick and dirty summation of WTF is happening in   Ukraine?  I refuse to bother with reading the news coverage because most of them are too stupid to find their ass with both hands and a flashlight.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 11:28 AM (4df7R)

339 Actually the Iliad was originally memorized and recited, unless there is a manuscript in linear A somewhere. Minx .02 Alpha

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 11:28 AM (lwkv9)

340 Did someone mention constitutional super lawyer Glen Greenwald?

Posted by: Rick Ellensburg at January 27, 2014 11:28 AM (Pr6hk)

341 343 What's your favorite planet? I'll take Uranus for a hundred, Alex.

Posted by: Miguel ma Belle at January 27, 2014 11:28 AM (7ObY1)

342 I like my plaid footie pajamas. They empower me.

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 11:28 AM (RlUaX)

343

336 -

 

It's alright.  Come, walk with me on the beach.  We can sip drinks.  With my dog... er, girlfriend. 

Posted by: Mike the Troll at January 27, 2014 11:28 AM (TOk1P)

344 We have your healthcare here.  Just fly your private plane down

Posted by: Costa Rica Ministry of Health at January 27, 2014 11:29 AM (Pr6hk)

345 What's your favorite planet?
___
The humble corn stalk.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 27, 2014 11:29 AM (P3U0f)

346 Valentine's Day is coming up, wonder what the Obamacare print/twitter ads will look like. Yikes.

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 11:29 AM (A98Xu)

347 The President has healed the economy, given free health care to millions and killed Bin Laden and yet white people still hate him. I wonder why?

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 03:24 PM (P1WNR)

Well, because he's destroyed the economy, de-health-insured millions and the SEALs killed bin Laden.


This is what you'd have me believe is true of millions of Americans:

I voted for the Republican in 2000 because liberals do not reflect my values.
I voted for the Republican in 2004 because liberals do not reflect my values.
I voted for the Republican in 2008 because I'm racist.

Try again.  But first, you will blow me.

Posted by: Miguelito at January 27, 2014 11:29 AM (fwARV)

348 Leave Gleen Grenwald alone!!!

Posted by: Ellen Ricksburg at January 27, 2014 11:30 AM (TOk1P)

349 Who ever heard of a racist Mexican? Actually he's not even really a Mexican- He's CANADIAN. I guess you Teabaggers will forget all your birther nonsense when he wants to be President, huh? I guess he's light-skinned enough for your RethugliKKKan white privilege to handle?


Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 27, 2014 11:30 AM (Pb41/)

350 'Civil disobedience", to be practiced against unjust laws, or any other perceived or invented social ill, has been one of the Catechisms of the Progressive left for quite some time. I am quite happy to see that, after having indoctrinated it into the younger generations using the schools, the progs are on the receiving end of the civil disobedience principles they claim to hold so dear. What is even better is that all anyone has to do to stick it to The Man, is to shrug ones shoulders and say "whatever, I'm not signing up." You don't even have to say it out loud. It's the ultimate peaceful, effective dissent. To break the law, all you have to do is not go to their website. That's like a protest where all the attendees are standing around with their hands in the pockets. Or doing... whatever, video gaming, skypeing, playing music, Frisbee golf, Giant Paper Mache Puppets playing patty-cake, instead of carrying signs, angrily shouting and making demands or throwing shit at the police to show defiance. You do nothing and let it all come down through it's own failure.

Posted by: SGT Ted at January 27, 2014 11:30 AM (k+p/R)

351 Off, tiny Miguel sock

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 27, 2014 11:30 AM (fwARV)

352 What's your favorite planet? I'll take Uranus for a hundred, Alex. I couldn't give it up for less than $300.00 //Alex

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 11:31 AM (lwkv9)

353 This Therapeudic Culture crap has really kicked it to eleventy. This being in Columbia and Maryland probably makes it ten times worse.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 27, 2014 03:27 PM (32Ze2)




Being a "grief counselor" has to be one of the biggest scam jobs out there. You're feeling bad? Okay, I'll show up and that will make you feel better.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 27, 2014 11:31 AM (1Jaio)

354 Now Mary is a fake troll I can get behind. Not in a sexual way, I just want to be supportive or her fake trolling hilarity.

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 11:31 AM (A98Xu)

355 Well we lost our insurance this month and are no longer going to be able to afford the basic crap plans under Obamacare. So add two more to that uninsured formerly insured 25%.

Posted by: NWConservative at January 27, 2014 11:32 AM (VfAcC)

356 Valentine's Day is coming up, wonder what the Obamacare print/twitter ads will look like. Yikes.

Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 03:29 PM (A98Xu)




Barry: Me and Reggie sharing our special love. Why do you ask?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 27, 2014 11:32 AM (1Jaio)

357 Will  there be the famous Ace's live-blogging of the SOTU tomorrow?

Posted by: Tony253 at January 27, 2014 11:32 AM (PryWG)

358 I guess you Teabaggers will forget all your birther nonsense when he wants to be President, huh? I guess he's light-skinned enough for your RethugliKKKan white privilege to handle? Yes. FYNQ.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 11:32 AM (lwkv9)

359 Posted by: Miguelito at January 27, 2014 03:29 PM (fwARV) Stop biting my knee, you little bastard.

Posted by: James West at January 27, 2014 11:32 AM (MMC8r)

360 $10 says Obama instead demands Republicans apologize for trying to derail Obamacare.

Posted by: Brendan at January 27, 2014 11:33 AM (2jQGY)

361 353 What's your favorite planet?


Pluto tastes good.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 27, 2014 11:34 AM (Pr6hk)

362 329 Presenting the USNS Cesar Chavez: http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=66959 You think I might get a ship named after me? I could be Hispanic and I've picked some grapes. PC Navy!

Posted by: Palin Steele at January 27, 2014 11:35 AM (0FSuD)

363 $10 says Obama instead demands Republicans apologize for trying to derail Obamacare.

Posted by: Brendan at January 27, 2014 03:33 PM (2jQGY)

I half expect Obama to declare the Republican party disbanded and all (R)-held seats to be up for special election within 90 days. 

You know, enemies of progress and all that.

Scary part - a significant portion of the country would cheer wildly and do their level best to see his 'unspoken instructions' carried out.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 27, 2014 11:35 AM (fwARV)

364 I'm sorry I was out shopping so I'm just now seeing this question... "Will those remain legal after 2014?" Yes! They are explicitly exempted from Obamacare!

Posted by: Lauren at January 27, 2014 11:37 AM (hFL/3)

365 nood

Posted by: The Secret Sock at January 27, 2014 11:37 AM (wF/yx)

366 I expect the JEF to go full chastise mode and be smoting his opposition with taunts.  Kcuffer.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 27, 2014 11:39 AM (BAS5M)

367 I guess the dude at the Kwik-e-Mart better smile when overcharging me for the rotating 3 month old hot dog. Is *that* what they're calling it these days?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 11:40 AM (PYAXX)

368 Been a rough marriage. I'll reserve judgement on Ms. Cloggenstein until I see a few pics.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 27, 2014 11:47 AM (9NDZl)

369 a smart bra that unlatches when their heart rate goes up.

Wouldn't panty humidity eliminate a lot of false positives?
Of course having your bra unhook when you've already pissed yourself would really be inconvenient.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 27, 2014 11:50 AM (DL2i+)

370 Saw Irish Democracy open for Van Morrison at the Armadillo World Headquarters in 1974.

Posted by: drowningpuppies at January 27, 2014 12:01 PM (012vu)

371 The GOP'd never have the guts for discommendation.

http://tinyurl.com/qezyz34

Maybe Rep. Tim Scott (if I found the right black Republican) could just walk out of the hall.  Or better still escort the rest of the GOP out one by one.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 27, 2014 12:01 PM (DL2i+)

372

Posted by: Miguel James at January 27, 2014 02:57 PM (PRPp1)

 

So as long as they aren't like Allen West, or Clarence Thomas, and be good little Donkey Voters, then they're ok?

 

Guess you miss the good old days of Robert Byrd and Nathanel Bedford Forrest......

Posted by: Not Reggie Love at January 27, 2014 12:07 PM (61BD9)

373 RWNJ faction What does the NJ part stand for?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2014 12:09 PM (7kkQJ)

374 RWNJ Right Wing Nut Job

aka Normal American

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 27, 2014 12:13 PM (DL2i+)

375 Trolls don't leave home without it.

Posted by: The "Hate" Card[/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 12:17 PM (5ikDv)

376  I saw Irish Democracy open for The Baby Killers at Cowpens in 82.

Posted by: Truthful Wendy Davis at January 27, 2014 12:20 PM (WGm5T)

377 How has Obama "healed" the economy. Is Miguel a new version of Mary Cloggenstein?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2014 12:24 PM (7kkQJ)

378 49 Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 27, 2014 02:28 PM (zZLRY) Except the actual number of people being denied insurance for pre-existing conditions was quite small. WierdDave has stats on this somewhere I think. 4-6 million, give or take. It's a problem with an easy solution, yes one that involves government (at the state level). Prex hadn't been a problem here in Md. for decades now, the state had a strong high risk pool. All gone into the maw of Obamacide.

Posted by: Weirddave at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (N/cFh)

379 No he should not apologize.  Some of his idiot followers will believe him and push the idea that this ends the controversy.  Let him be himself and ignore the consequence of what he has done, until they bite the Democratic Party like a pit viper.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 27, 2014 01:16 PM (BaQuW)

380 Plus, people love the idea of never ever being denied 'insurance' on-the-spot for a preexisting condition. Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 27, 2014 02:33 PM (zZLRY) They want free shit, single payer without the high taxes that necessitates.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 27, 2014 01:57 PM (Y92Nd)

381 I love that Ace is referencing a Fox News Poll. Way to stick your head in the sand Ace and ensure that the GOP never again takes the presidency. At some point conservatives are going to wake up to the fact that Fox is an echo chamber of stupidity that garners around a million viewers for its most popular shows. In comparison even the unpopular CBS Evening news gets 8 million viewers. Before Fox News existed between between 1952 and 1988, Republicans won 7 out of the 10 presidential elections. Since then the Dems have won the popular vote 5 out of 6 times. Roger Ailes cares only about his bank account. His brand of stupid TV has done unimaginable damage to the GOP's chances of winning presidential elections. It now has a median viewer age of 68 years according to Nielsen data through mid-January. It's little more than a Stockholm syndrome retirement community.

Posted by: Reality at January 27, 2014 02:17 PM (KOp/H)

382

Long time reader, first time poster here.

Had to comment about Irish Democracy.  I love this as it has been exactly my personal plan.  I have been uninsured my entire adult life (I'm in my 50's now) and instead paid for all of my medical needs in cash.  Needless to say, this makes one very careful about their person.  Silly personal responsibility.  P.S. I've saved a ton of money over 3 decades; premiums vs. my actual costs.

Anyway, I never intended to enroll in Obamacare.  I'm self-employed, so pay estimated taxes quarterly with never a refund.  No refund, no way for the gov't to deduct the penalty for lack of enrollment.  I'm selling my house and completely revamping my entire financical situation and lifestlye.  Going Galt, in a way.  My attitude has remained the same since the tragic night that they passed this terrible bill; Come and get me.

Had never heard the term Irish Democracy 'til now.  Love it!  I'm of Irish descent, so I'm feeling even better about my plans.

We have to remind ourselves as often as possible that we the people hold all of the power.  The Constitution, our numbers and 300+ million privately owned firearms means we can do as we please.  I don't fear government, they should fear me.

Posted by: missbosslady at January 27, 2014 03:41 PM (zkDbJ)

383 Oops.  Didn't do so well with those paragraph thingys.  Sorry.

Posted by: missbosslady at January 27, 2014 03:43 PM (zkDbJ)

384 "Pluto tastes good." Well played, well played.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 27, 2014 04:28 PM (Epu3K)

385 So, the great success has fewer people with insurance, they pay more for it, get less, and have less choice of hospitals and doctors. Win-Win

Posted by: iowaan at January 28, 2014 09:07 AM (crTpS)

386 What dows? http://i61.tinypic.com/2rcq53o.jpg

Posted by: kjhjkhj at January 28, 2014 09:27 PM (DtNNC)

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