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April 26, 2014

The Americans, A Canadian's opinion [WeirdDave]
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This goes back to the 1970s. Remember the 70s? Impeccable fashion, timeless music and fantastic American motor cars. OK, fine, none of that is true. Still, at one point in the 70s, highly respected Canadian journalist Gordon Sinclair felt inspired to write about us, his slightly wayward American brothers. We were going through a tough time then. Our tough times now make that look like a walk in the park, but still... We're going to get out of this, LIVs, and the FSA not withstanding. That's what we do, we're Americans. It's hard these days to hold on to that belief, but we absolutely HAVE to do it. Hang tough patriots, our time will come. We just have to hope and pray that it comes from our conviction and fortitude, and not out guns.

**Rah, rah, USA! Thanks, WeirdDave, for that boost of patriotism. Y-not**

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1 You're earned some content. Enjoy!

Posted by: Y-not at April 26, 2014 05:48 AM (zDsvJ)

2 test

Posted by: Y-not at April 26, 2014 05:49 AM (zDsvJ)

3 Canada has their own national bacon.

Posted by: --- at April 26, 2014 05:51 AM (MMC8r)

4 Ah yes, the 1970's. When the only thing taller than my hair was my platform shoes.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 05:53 AM (MKpBT)

5 I had that on a 45. I'm sure I still do, as I'm a pathological packrat.

Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2014 05:53 AM (sdi6R)

6 Thank G_d, you didn't write "first". I've never understood the reasoning behind making that the initial comment, other than proving to be an annoying @$$h@t.

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 05:53 AM (Ph479)

7 We're famous I tell ya. Pintos, Vietnam, Bee Gees. A nice trifecta

Posted by: The 70's at April 26, 2014 05:54 AM (7Eefo)

8 First!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 05:56 AM (MKpBT)

9 Polyester leisure suits! Some of the best and worst music of all time.

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 05:56 AM (Ph479)

10
   Thank you for reiterating what has been my mantra.

   The basics are still there under the layer of filth deposited on them.

   I'm still convinced that removing the filth can be done peaceably.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2014 05:56 AM (SAMxH)

11 Your life must be devoid of any accomplishment.

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 05:57 AM (Ph479)

12 Er it'll only come if all on the right are saints lest we go lobsters in a pot dear man

Posted by: sven10077 at April 26, 2014 05:57 AM (NweYd)

13 The 70's had better music than the 80's! But, yeah.. considering the Disco era and Bubble Gum crap, some of it was pretty bad..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 26, 2014 05:58 AM (b/lt+)

14 3 Canada has their own national bacon. Posted by: --- at April 26, 2014 09:51 AM (MMC8r) --- It's ham. Love, your token Canadian

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 26, 2014 06:00 AM (N/cFh)

15 In the 70's they made fun of the 50's. That's how bad it was.
That was only a 20 year span back. We're at 40 now.
That's how retarded we are.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 26, 2014 06:01 AM (xq1UY)

16 14 3 Canada has their own national bacon.
Posted by: --- at April 26, 2014 09:51 AM (MMC8r)
---
It's ham.

Love, your token Canadian

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 26, 2014 10:00 AM (N/cFh)

I guess 'Canadian Ham' refers to Shatner.

Posted by: --- at April 26, 2014 06:02 AM (MMC8r)

17 Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 26, 2014 10:01 AM (xq1UY) *** So you're saying we should be making fun of the 90's?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 06:02 AM (MKpBT)

18 The Seventies sucked so bad, dude.

Posted by: eman at April 26, 2014 06:03 AM (AO9UG)

19 Before the '12 election I joked that I was seeing "peasant" styles and paisleys in the stores again and the only way to prevent the final outrage of a disco revival was to boot SCoaMF. Heard disco in the background of some modern show this last week.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 26, 2014 06:04 AM (GDulk)

20 Found it! This is the version I have, a "cover" by Byron MacGregor. Same label and everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw2ysu1RWLA

Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2014 06:04 AM (sdi6R)

21 Hang together or hang separately. Good morning morons

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 26, 2014 06:04 AM (HVff2)

22 It's hard to believe that I think I Love You and T.N.T, could be part of the same decade of music.

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 06:04 AM (Ph479)

23 In the 70's John Denver gave us "Rocky Mountain High". Now we're not just singing it, we're living it.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 06:05 AM (MKpBT)

24 In the 70's they made fun of the 50's. That's how bad it was.
That was only a 20 year span back. We're at 40 now.
That's how retarded we are.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 26, 2014 10:01 AM

The 70s were parody.

Posted by: platform shoes at April 26, 2014 06:06 AM (bAGA/)

25 11 Your life must be devoid of any accomplishment. Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 09:57 AM (Ph479) You think you're better than us!

Posted by: First at April 26, 2014 06:07 AM (E7ujg)

26 The '70s, the '90s, and the '10s all had Democrat idiots in the White House.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 06:07 AM (CWIQ2)

27
Anna, Democrat and idiot is redundant.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2014 06:10 AM (SAMxH)

28
Some background on the recording:

http://tinyurl.com/kgg3g8j

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 26, 2014 06:12 AM (kdS6q)

29 Since we're about to relive 70s inflation (or worse)- Maybe shag carpeting will make a comeback. A guy can hope, right?

Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2014 06:16 AM (sdi6R)

30 I wear empire sun dresses.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 26, 2014 06:16 AM (N/cFh)

31 Nulli secundus!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 26, 2014 06:16 AM (D+5pt)

32 Hope and Prayer. That'll work.

Posted by: Williams of the Rain Forest at April 26, 2014 06:17 AM (xh5yF)

33 Nulli secundus! Posted by: andycanuck at April 26, 2014 10:16 AM (D+5pt) *** Your life must be devoid of all accomplishment..

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 26, 2014 06:18 AM (MKpBT)

34
And Albert Brooks "Phone Call to Americans", his 70s comedy take on the record:

http://youtu.be/OV8B1ZKiPw0

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 26, 2014 06:18 AM (kdS6q)

35 Praying that you're right. Morning all.

Posted by: RWC at April 26, 2014 06:19 AM (QeH9j)

36 This would probably get some parents arrested now.
http://tinyurl.com/n55z7ua

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 06:19 AM (CWIQ2)

37 Meditation and happy thoughts. Why not. It worked for the leftists. We just have to be happier than they are.

Posted by: Williams of the Rain Forest at April 26, 2014 06:20 AM (xh5yF)

38 The 70s and 90s both had us with better race relations than when the Great Uniter came about.

Posted by: RWC at April 26, 2014 06:21 AM (QeH9j)

39 19 Before the '12 election I joked that I was seeing "peasant" styles and paisleys in the stores again and the only way to prevent the final outrage of a disco revival was to boot SCoaMF. Heard disco in the background of some modern show this last week. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 26, 2014 10:04 AM (GDulk) I hated disco back in the 70s. Loathed and despised it. A couple years ago I happened to hear an old disco hit from the 70s and thought, "You know, this isn't half bad, compared to the crap they're putting out today."

Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2014 06:22 AM (sdi6R)

40 Do we have real live concern trolls this fine morning or just bored morons doing sock puppet impressions?

Posted by: PaleRide at April 26, 2014 06:22 AM (FYUWS)

41 Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2014 10:22 AM (sdi6R) The benefit (?) of perspective?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 26, 2014 06:23 AM (GDulk)

42 The nuns didn't beat enough Latin into you, Muldoon. I hope they strapped you when you spoke Gaelic in class!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 26, 2014 06:24 AM (D+5pt)

43
The 70s and 90s both had us with better race relations than when the Great Uniter came about.
Posted by: RWC

Crown Heights 1991

Los Angeles Race Riots 1992.

I mean, come on now.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 26, 2014 06:25 AM (kdS6q)

44 And the 1960s had Black Panthers. And can't forget Watts.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 06:25 AM (CWIQ2)

45 There have been plenty of race riots since Obama took over. They just don't get reported on. Drudge reported how there were riots with thousands of people every summer holiday and he was labeled a racist by the leftys for doing so.

Posted by: Commissar Pug at April 26, 2014 06:28 AM (8c12T)

46 Well, guess it's time to go smush bananas for banana bread muffins for tomorrow's bake sale. I'm actually fortunate because Eldest and Middlest Kidlets are doing the vast majority of the baking.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 26, 2014 06:28 AM (GDulk)

47 Wrt the 70s, you write Our tough times now make that look like a walk in the park, but still... No. I should say Not yet. For the moment, our tough times today are more self-inflicted than they were during during the 70s. Cities had just burned in 60s race riots, 60K pointlessly dead in Vietnam, Communism on the march, gas lines, inflation, Watergate... (Double-digit inflation is when milk costs more Every. Single. Time. you go to the supermarket.) Nevetheless, I feel less hopeful looking forward than I did in the 70s, and the country feels even less connected to reality than it did then. That might be a function of my age and life story, but probably not all of it is.

Posted by: gs at April 26, 2014 06:30 AM (Wc9US)

48 I was the youngest of seven boys so I never had a little brother. I wonder if I could get a Canadian instead, or is it too late?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 06:33 AM (MKpBT)

49 Don't blame us, we sent our finest...

Posted by: Indonesia at April 26, 2014 06:34 AM (FcR7P)

50 34 You are obviously a woman of quality. And teh hawt. Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2014 10:17 AM (KBvAm) --- Obviously. Imported trophy wife.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 26, 2014 06:34 AM (N/cFh)

51 Have a great weekend Polliwogette!

Banana bread, hhmmmm

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 06:34 AM (CWIQ2)

52 The America people are pining for is long gone, it's over. It's like feeling a sense of loyalty to Ford because of a nostalgia for the Model A. Liberalism has infected every aspect of our country and it would take a half a century, if we start immediately, to reverse it's course to something resembling what we once were. Instead we're pushing for more immigration of worlds worst, a mandated "living wage", free college in the form of debt forgiveness, free healthcare and more governmental control in just about every aspect of our lives. Nope the only thing that will change it will be years done the road when future generations see the destruction and oppression are policies have created.
I don't know what form that will take but I fear it will be some economic disaster and global warfare more horrible then my imagination can even comprehend.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 26, 2014 06:35 AM (IV4od)

53 Seamus, I'll be your little Canadian brother.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 26, 2014 06:35 AM (N/cFh)

54 47 And the 1960s had Black Panthers. And can't forget Watts. Meet the Wizard of Watts!

Posted by: Zombie Fred Sanford at April 26, 2014 06:35 AM (Fp7JI)

55 I wonder if I could get a Canadian instead, or is it too late?
Only through South Park, CO orphanages.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 26, 2014 06:38 AM (D+5pt)

56 Uh oh, looks like Dave in Texas will have fewer elbow options for this upcoming football season. Five Buffalo Jills have sued the team and others. So the company that runs the Jills has suspended operations.

http://tinyurl.com/llnypy6

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 06:38 AM (CWIQ2)

57
Of course we will survive this bad patch.

We are Americans--what more needs be said?

Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2014 06:39 AM (SAMxH)

58 We're going to get out of this, LIVs, and the FSA not withstanding. I wish I were that confident. The 70s were parody. Posted by: platform shoes at April 26, 2014 10:06 AM (bAGA/) They were, if you paid attention to that crap. I didn't. Apparel was flannels, jeans (straight legs and occasional flares, BBs were the height of stupid) and either Converse high-tops or Vibram soles hikers. We were grunge looooong before it was cool. Car was a '67 Mustang and music was alternative/progrock/blues. Yeah. To me the 70s were a lot of fun to laugh at while remaining far above the stupid. Then reality came crashing down.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 26, 2014 06:40 AM (Hcd1G)

59 Posted by: gs at April 26, 2014 10:30 AM (Wc9US) Gas lines were self inflicted (or at least government inflicted) as well. We should probably expect to see such things again. Honestly, I'm surprised price controls aren't already being suggested. Maybe lying about how high inflatioin is makes it difficult to push for control of prices?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 26, 2014 06:40 AM (GDulk)

60 You think you're better than us!

If you read my other comment, I said I don't understand the need to do it. I've been online since 1993, and every initial remark on a Yahoo article "discussion" section had it. Here's how that evolved:

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BTW, I'm not giving you the finger, or any other AoSHQ commenter the finger. It's just what happened as a result of trying to be recognized as the "first" person to comment on a thread.

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 06:40 AM (Ph479)

61 ***symbolically puts Canada in a playful headlock and administers noogies*** Awww, you're OK, little brother!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 06:41 AM (MKpBT)

62 In the 70s, Al Stewart had a couple of big hits and got lots of radio airplay. He hasn't gone away; he just doesn't have big hits in the 10s, although he's come out with new albums every few years ever since then. Then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM7LR46zrQU Now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_eCZJM5js He has aged very gracefully and seems to be content with a small yet devoted cult following.

Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2014 06:41 AM (sdi6R)

63 And the second "power failure while p.c. turned on" has given me a new hash only getting me 5 points more on top of my D+.

I feel so ashamed like Gingy when she got that one A-.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 26, 2014 06:41 AM (D+5pt)

64
Miss me yet, mon amis?

Posted by: Joseph Philippe Pierre Yves Elliott Trudeau at April 26, 2014 06:42 AM (JBggj)

65 a d+5pts is a c-

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 26, 2014 06:43 AM (u8GsB)

66 Nulli secundus!

I stand corrected.

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 06:43 AM (Ph479)

67 ...I've been online since 1993... *** That's nothing, Vic's been on-line since 1893.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 06:44 AM (MKpBT)

68 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 10:33 AM (MKpBT) a seventh son? that's something right there....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 26, 2014 06:44 AM (u8GsB)

69 My old college girlfriend gave her 60's denim to her niece. "Aunt Jody, these are vintage!" Jody noted that our college rags cost a hell of a lot less than their reproductions.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 26, 2014 06:44 AM (c8Izq)

70
Of course we will survive this bad patch.
Posted by: irongrampa

Krypton -- explode? Jor-El, you're mad!

Posted by: The Council of Elders

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 26, 2014 06:45 AM (kdS6q)

71 Does anybody know Morse code?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 06:46 AM (MKpBT)

72 That's nothing, Vic's been on-line since 1893.

Daily historical events by telegraph?

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 06:47 AM (Ph479)

73 I was intending to vote in the VA-10 firehouse primary today, but I've decided to blow it off. Since Timmy died, I've blown off a hell of a lot and the Republicans are no different.

By November I'll be back in the saddle. Right now I'm praying for SMOD, but I don't think God's going to let us off that easy.

btw, kudos to Frank Wolf for stepping aside. Term limits, people. You did a good job, Frank.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at April 26, 2014 06:47 AM (R+h7Q)

74 a seventh son? that's something right there.... Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 26, 2014 10:44 AM (u8GsB) **** Meh, still waiting for my supernatural powers to kick in.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 06:47 AM (MKpBT)

75 My old college girlfriend gave her 60's denim to her niece. "Aunt Jody, these are vintage!" Jody noted that our college rags cost a hell of a lot less than their reproductions. Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 26, 2014 10:44 AM (c8Izq) ------ Heh. I wore my stepmother's old jeans to school when bell bottoms returned in the late 90s. Good times.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 26, 2014 06:47 AM (GmTxn)

76 "We're going to get out of this, LIVs, and the FSA not withstanding." No, I don't think we are. All empires crumble eventually. Not too long ago Spain, England and Holland ruled the world. Nothing lasts forever. The US had a pretty good run, but it's over. And I don't mean over as in we're going to turn into Zimbabwe, I mean over as in the US being "AMERICA"....we'll slowly devolve into Spain/England/Holland...not a horrible place to live by any means, but also not a world power.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2014 06:48 AM (0LHZx)

77 ..-. ..- -.-. -.- / -.-- --- ..-

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 06:48 AM (Ph479)

78 Bench-warmer appoints bench-warmer.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 26, 2014 06:48 AM (D+5pt)

79 Muldoon wants to be bit by a radioactive spider
Will settle for a radioactive ant
And will get a radioactive moth.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 06:49 AM (CWIQ2)

80 Morse code: -.-- . ...

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 26, 2014 06:49 AM (c8Izq)

81 I can always have Jen upbraid the Canadians for this on Twitter, if push comes to shove.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 26, 2014 06:49 AM (Dwehj)

82 The US had a pretty good run, but it's over. And I don't mean over as in we're going to turn into Zimbabwe, I mean over as in the US being "AMERICA"....we'll slowly devolve into Spain/England/Holland...not a horrible place to live by any means, but also not a world power. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2014 10:48 AM
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Whoa. I'm old enough to have heard that bleat before. Sometime around 1978, I think.

Posted by: mrp at April 26, 2014 06:50 AM (JBggj)

83 I really wish we could go back to America-that-was also, but I don't think we ever can. Even if we managed to fix everything on the policy level and get the culture to quit tripping on utopian fantasy and embrace common sense again, the giant ball and chain of the national debt would leave us in a bind for a long time to come.

Posted by: Cato at April 26, 2014 06:50 AM (J+mig)

84 It's over, Johnny.

Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at April 26, 2014 06:51 AM (Dwehj)

85 69 Miss me yet, mon amis? Posted by: Joseph Philippe Pierre Yves Elliott Trudeau at April 26, 2014 10:42 AM (JBggj) --- Fuck no. NEP, anyone? Rot in hell, Trudeau.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 26, 2014 06:51 AM (N/cFh)

86 In the '70's the Canadians had better beer than America. Now that government has gotten out of the beer control business and turned its stultifying attention to medical care and increasing the depth of the government bond market, we have made enormous progress.

Posted by: MTF at April 26, 2014 06:52 AM (F58x4)

87 Wasn't it Trudeau who literally turned Canada into a police state for one small crisis?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 06:53 AM (CWIQ2)

88 76 Does anybody know Morse code? Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 10:46 AM (MKpBT) --- I knit a scarf for fastfreefall with his initials in morse code. He knows it pretty well. I can rouse him if necessary via Twitter.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 26, 2014 06:53 AM (N/cFh)

89 Canadian strip clubs are fantastic. So I've been told by a friend of a friend's cousin.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2014 06:54 AM (0LHZx)

90 I can always have Jen upbraid the Canadians for this on Twitter, if push comes to shove. *** Fifty-four forty or tweet!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 06:55 AM (MKpBT)

91 Polyester leisure suits!

Don't forget the Pooka Necklaces. To this day, I have no idea what a Pooka is.

Posted by: Paladin at April 26, 2014 06:56 AM (LtaK3)

92 A Czech newspaper wrote in 2010; "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him to the Presidency" The Americans who made the country what it is are a minority now and the Left has not only made countering their destruction difficult, but is well on the way to making it illegal Rousseau wrote that once 50 percent realize that they can vote themselves money from the treasury, the nation is done. The Free Shit Army, the Rent Seeking Rich, and the White Guilt Elite have ensured their power to the point where the GOP is not only declining to oppose them, they're joining them We can say "we're Americans, we'll get through this" is our version of the Sioux ritual of Ghost Dancing. Former solid Red states have gone blue and purple, no blue state has gone red. We're even worried that 10 years from now Texas will have gone blue Hate to rain on the optimists parade, but I just don't feel that what made us a special people exists any longer, especially in the Millenial generation

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2014 06:56 AM (aTXUx)

93 Toronto strip clubs in the late 70s were something to behold,

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 06:56 AM (Ph479)

94 "And I don't mean over as in we're going to turn into Zimbabwe, I mean over as in the US being "AMERICA"....we'll slowly devolve into Spain/England/Holland...not a horrible place to live by any means, but also not a world power."

Why? Why do you think that will be the outcome? We have nothing to compare it to, we've never faced the ramifications of such global fiscal irresponsibility. As I said before, I'm more inclined to believe it's going to be far worse then anything we can imagine. People think there will be some magical buffer that will somehow protect us from the mess we've created, I don't.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 26, 2014 06:57 AM (IV4od)

95 No, I don't think we are. All empires crumble eventually. Not too long ago Spain, England and Holland ruled the world. Nothing lasts forever. The US had a pretty good run, but it's over. And I don't mean over as in we're going to turn into Zimbabwe, I mean over as in the US being "AMERICA"....we'll slowly devolve into Spain/England/Holland...not a horrible place to live by any means, but also not a world power.

#81 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2014 10:48 AM (0LHZx)

I've read that the American Revolution was driven by about 3% of the population at that time, with another 40% cooperative support, and what, 20% passive support/lack of resistance? There are a lot of Americans who will go wherever the flock takes them, and in the hard times to come, many eyes will be opened to the evil that is being done to our liberty and culture.

I fear it will take a collapse to get back on the right track, and it's going to be a horrible mess. But it's certainly not impossible.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at April 26, 2014 06:58 AM (R+h7Q)

96 97 Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2014 10:56 AM (aTXUx)

Putin's on the march?

Fuck that why are you against gay marriage h8er?

//Generation Tippy Cup

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 26, 2014 06:58 AM (TE35l)

97 94 Canadian strip clubs are fantastic. So I've been told by a friend of a friend's cousin. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2014 10:54 AM (0LHZx) In college, up near the northern border, Montreal famously had great strip clubs, I particularly remember a place called Wanda's in Montreal, a place with very nice, unusually attractive young women working. Well, truthfully, I remember hearing about the place; I never went there, of course.

Posted by: MTF at April 26, 2014 06:58 AM (F58x4)

98 Don't forget the Pooka Necklaces. To this day, I have no idea what a Pooka is.

Mood rings!

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 06:59 AM (Ph479)

99 Hey, I just noticed the thread is the width of the video... which is a little narrower than some. Are you guys able to read this ok? Let me know if I need to reformat the video width.

Posted by: Y-not at April 26, 2014 06:59 AM (zDsvJ)

100 kbdabear, I think you're right. I'm planning to be dead.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 26, 2014 06:59 AM (c8Izq)

101 [iIt's like feeling a sense of loyalty to Ford because of a nostalgia for the Model A.[/i]

T. Model T. The A-model was a degrading compromise with urbanism.
You kids nowadays I swear.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 26, 2014 06:59 AM (xq1UY)

102 91 In the '70's the Canadians had better beer than America. Now that government has gotten out of the beer control business and turned its stultifying attention to medical care and increasing the depth of the government bond market, we have made enormous progress. Posted by: MTF at April 26, 2014 10:52 AM (F58x4) That's an excellent point. I can remember when American beer was universally bland, and anybody who wanted something different sought out imports. Since the laws were relaxed, the varieties of craft beers and homebrewed beers available are limitless, and American beer can hold its own with anyone in the world. The Golden Age of American beer brewing is right now, today. All it took was the government getting out of the way. You'd think there would be a lesson in that.

Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2014 06:59 AM (sdi6R)

103 Was that Rousseau, or de Tocqueville?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 26, 2014 06:59 AM (MKpBT)

104 99 Posted by: lowandslow at April 26, 2014 10:57 AM (IV4od)

We live in a culture that has no problem with EPA Jedi-Hand Waving Coal into a forbidden material or using dead babies as fuel so long as we don't know about it...

Yeah the last dark age was not voluntary like this one is.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 26, 2014 07:00 AM (TE35l)

105 Thank you Not so weird Dave! Needed to be said. We need to fight, not watch it burn

Posted by: Thunderb at April 26, 2014 07:00 AM (zOTsN)

106 We would have been better to have elected a Pet Rock as President.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 07:00 AM (CWIQ2)

107 I still believe in the American people, in spite of our recent stupidity.

I don't have any faith in the American political class however, and believe it needs to self-destruct, which it will.

And hopefully, soon.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2014 07:00 AM (BeSEI)

108
   I meant what I said about getting through this crap.

   Certainly it won't be easy to do. It would be stupid to think otherwise.

    Please understand, it gets wearing at times listening to the constant gloom and doom. It's perfectly okay to express concern or dismay--even Mr. Optimist here does that now and then.

    Just not constantly.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2014 07:01 AM (SAMxH)

109 88 Posted by: Cato at April 26, 2014 10:50 AM (J+mig)

Divorce 2016-fuck you blue debt holes

//The Red

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 26, 2014 07:02 AM (TE35l)

110 In college, up near the northern border, Montreal famously had great strip clubs, I particularly remember a place called Wanda's in Montreal, a place with very nice, unusually attractive young women working. Well, truthfully, I remember hearing about the place; I never went there, of course. Posted by: MTF at April 26, 2014 10:58 AM (F58x4) ________ Two words: Chez Pare

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2014 07:02 AM (0LHZx)

111 Well-said, irongrampa

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 26, 2014 07:02 AM (GmTxn)

112 Tanned, rested and ready

Posted by: Pet Rock at April 26, 2014 07:03 AM (MKpBT)

113 64, Okay, gas lines probably were due to a poor government response to the Arab oil embargo, but the embargo was not self-inflicted (unless one claims we shouldn't have backed Israel in its 1973 war).

Posted by: gs at April 26, 2014 07:03 AM (Wc9US)

114 Golden Age of beer and also the Golden Age of performance cars if you're paying attention. There are so many great cars being offered it's hard to keep up.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 26, 2014 07:03 AM (c8Izq)

115 Rousseau was all about return to a nature state and being noble savages.

I want to say it was de Tocqueville who said 'until the public discovers it can vote from the largesse of the purse... it will end in tyranny' or something like that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 07:03 AM (CWIQ2)

116 Well, maybe we will get out of this and maybe we won't. I'm an historian by training, I'm well aware that the odds are long and historically unprecedented, but so is America. Honestly, most days I think that Bracken's "What I saw at the coup" (http://tinyurl.com/mzohe6b) is a BEST case scenario. Still, I generally try not to be too negative in my blog posts for a couple of reasons: 1 I don't want Monty on me for stealing his gig. 2 Thoughts craft reality. If we all just sit around and moan "It's over!" it will be. 3 Finally, decline is a choice. Victor Davis Hanson has written extensively about this and I believe it with all my heart. Decline IS a choice, and it may be the choice that America has made, but I'll be cold in my grave before it's a choice I go willing along with. So. *shrug* I like Sinclair's commentary. Sometimes I watch it just to keep myself sane.

Posted by: Weirddave at April 26, 2014 07:04 AM (N/cFh)

117 Does anybody know Morse code? Posted by: Seamus Muldoon ------------------- Why do you ask?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 26, 2014 07:04 AM (aDwsi)

118 61 Uh oh, looks like Dave in Texas will have fewer elbow options for this upcoming football season. Five Buffalo Jills have sued the team and others. So the company that runs the Jills has suspended operations. http://tinyurl.com/llnypy6 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 10:38 AM (CWIQ2) Leftists and Lawyers, doing to the cheerleaders what they did to Flight Attendants Get ready for gays and middle aged cows on the sidelines

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2014 07:04 AM (aTXUx)

119 A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.Â” Â¯ Alexis de Tocqueville

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 26, 2014 07:05 AM (MKpBT)

120 Why? Why do you think that will be the outcome? We have nothing to compare it to, we've never faced the ramifications of such global fiscal irresponsibility. As I said before, I'm more inclined to believe it's going to be far worse then anything we can imagine. People think there will be some magical buffer that will somehow protect us from the mess we've created, I don't. Posted by: lowandslow at April 26, 2014 10:57 AM (IV4od) ______________ If the western world can survive WW2, I think it can survive fiscal irresponsibility.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2014 07:05 AM (0LHZx)

121 I don't have any faith in the American political class however, and believe it needs to self-destruct, which it will.

And the bureaucrats whose public service loyalty is enriching themselves without providing any actual service.

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 07:06 AM (Ph479)

122 Why do you ask? Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 26, 2014 11:04 AM (aDwsi) **** @65

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 26, 2014 07:06 AM (MKpBT)

123 97: I'm either a late X or an early Millenial, depending on who's doing the counting. The most important thing about my age group to remember is that those of us you see are generally the worst of us. The rest of us are living quietly from paycheck to paycheck, trying desperately to claw a piece of the American Dream out of a world that craps on us at every turn. Most of my age group trends more towards the Left than me, but there's a strong libertarian (small L, not as in the party) impulse that politicians like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz have struck a chord with. The federal monster we have now doesn't benefit us, it robs from the present and the future to sustain the unsustainable. It has to end, and the best way to pare it down is to get it back under the Constitution. We get this. This is what we want. Not the Boehner, McConnell, McCain, etc. playbook, where every play is is to wave the white flag as early and often as possible.

Posted by: Cato at April 26, 2014 07:07 AM (J+mig)

124 113 Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2014 11:01 AM (SAMxH)

What makes you think:

a) national divorce is predicated on doom or gloom...it's hope bud screw the technocrats and the idiots who sold the notion there's free money

b) most of this is gloom based at any rate.?

IG if you think *this* nation could win the cold war let alone a new cold war coupled with rad islam PLEASE explain....

understanding what is a reasonable expectation of result WRT where we're heading is not doom mongering...

Ogabe's Social Justice express coupled with the Boomers obliterating the SS and Medicare trust funds means we literally cannot dig out of our hole.

Blind "and AMERICA" deference to Austria-Hungary didn't allow the Habsburg's to keep the Dual Monarchy going....

Austria is a fine nation in the aftermath and there's a lot of hot Hungarian babes on the internet doing the whole reproductive display thing....

The world will go on after the US Federal Government justly dies as it has earned.

Freedom after a fashion may in fact thrive in the aftermath of the break-up in a way the evangelical EPA and BLM simply will not allow now.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 26, 2014 07:07 AM (TE35l)

125 CNN keeps playing what they think is a "cute" story, about a little girl who gave FLOTUS her dad's resume and asked for a job for him It isn't cute It's sickening How is this different from when the peasants wou Do line the road and wait for the king to pass so they could beg for scraps or favors I think it is humiliating I think it is telling I think it is sickening

Posted by: Thunderb at April 26, 2014 07:08 AM (zOTsN)

126 Re: Jills Didn't they get paid something like $150 for the entire season which works out to like $4 an hour? That is a wee bit d-bagish by the Bills.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2014 07:09 AM (0LHZx)

127 There are so many great cars being offered it's hard to keep up. Posted by: Mr. Dave ------------------------ True, but the cost has increased considerably, even taking into account inflation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 26, 2014 07:09 AM (aDwsi)

128

70 a d+5pts is a c-

Or could likely get a druid a cloaking spell, depending on the next roll...

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 26, 2014 07:10 AM (X3xYu)

129 Thunderb, re: the little girl.

Need to Photoshop that picture. Name the little girl Olivia Twist.
Michelle as Mrs. Fagin.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 07:10 AM (CWIQ2)

130 Ack When peasants would line the road iPads are autocorrect nazis

Posted by: Thunderb at April 26, 2014 07:10 AM (zOTsN)

131 Of course- Ben Franklin preceded de Tocqueville: "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."- B. Franklin

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 26, 2014 07:10 AM (MKpBT)

132 It just doesn't sound like something Rousseau would have said.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 26, 2014 07:11 AM (MKpBT)

133 "I meant what I said about getting through this crap."

How? We could have a movement 10 times larger then the Tea Party in 2010 and nothing in any real sense will change. The political class, the media and population at large will dismiss it and will continue down the path of destruction. Hell we have the opposition's party highest political leader openly mocking people that want to do any less then grant amnesty to millions of illegals. These people don't want to go back to an America based on liberty and limited government.

That also doesn't mean we can't be happy in our personal lives, despite my vocal disdain for what this country has become, I am.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 26, 2014 07:12 AM (IV4od)

134 Seriously how is it "cute" to have a young girl publicly grovel to HRH FLOTUS for favor from the state?

Posted by: Thunderb at April 26, 2014 07:13 AM (zOTsN)

135 hadoop does.....at least through a translator

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 26, 2014 07:13 AM (u8GsB)

136 All societies eventually devolve to socialism. When presented with a choice of working or not working, a majority will pick not working. People are lazy by nature. You can't fight it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2014 07:14 AM (0LHZx)

137 139: Freedom or Feudalism. There's only two systems of governance that mankind have ever come up with, no matter what labels we hang on them.

Posted by: Cato at April 26, 2014 07:14 AM (J+mig)

138 kbdabear, sounds like the Five Jills' lawyer did not expect the company to go nuclear and call their bluff by closing shop. That idiot won't survive five seconds in any bar once identified as the guy who took away the pom-poms.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 07:14 AM (CWIQ2)

139 138 Posted by: lowandslow at April 26, 2014 11:12 AM (IV4od)

and a lot of people refuse to identify the real monster...

Look the GOP could have all 535 Seats in the House and Senate and the Presidency jam pack SCotUS with 7 solid Conservatives and the "Non-Partisan Civil Service" still runs the show and will act as a counter "insurgency"....

It's just the way it is....we are a third rate pension system and health insurance scam artist with some nuclear weapons and a lot of retard lawyers.

That's "America"

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 26, 2014 07:14 AM (TE35l)

140 Muldoon - 65 translated to Morse is ... -.-. .-. . .-- / -.-- --- ..-

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 26, 2014 07:15 AM (aDwsi)

141 Rousseau wrote that once 50 percent realize that they can vote themselves money from the treasury, the nation is done.

Rousseau wrote that, no shit? I'd sure like to see the citation.

There is a name for this school of literature, "Ubi Sunt," meaning "Oh where are the snows of yesteryear?" As long as you can convince yourself that all is now vanity, you don't have to try. They'll save you a seat at the barbershop to sit and fart and burp and bitch. It's the great conservative losers' disease.

Surprisingly, Brecht was really good at it. He has a line that comes across as "The world is wrong, and Man's a shit, and that is all there is to it. It always happens that way."

Pity, a man can't eat as much as he'd like to puke.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 26, 2014 07:15 AM (xq1UY)

142 #Nuts

Posted by: General McAuliffe at Bastogne at April 26, 2014 07:15 AM (Mogjf)

143 I liked the 70s. I liked the music, I liked the hippie fashions that allowed me to go without underwear of any kind, I even liked disco.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 26, 2014 07:16 AM (oMKp3)

144 .-.. . - / .. - / -... ..- .-. -.

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 26, 2014 07:16 AM (u8GsB)

145 The best thing about the 70s is that it lead to Reagan.

Posted by: Thunderb at April 26, 2014 07:17 AM (zOTsN)

146 Has the President un-friend and un-follow Putin on FB and Twitter yet? To show how displeased he is with Putin's actions in the Ukraine?

Or is the President and Hagel still not getting through on the phone?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2014 07:17 AM (CWIQ2)

147 Phoenix - .-.. --- .-..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 26, 2014 07:18 AM (aDwsi)

148 New thread up for more politics and news.

Posted by: Y-not at April 26, 2014 07:18 AM (zDsvJ)

149 150 Posted by: Thunderb at April 26, 2014 11:17 AM (zOTsN)

The wonderful thing about the 20 teens is uh I guess it leads to Jeb "Teddy" Bush or something....

//click...bang thud...silence

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 26, 2014 07:18 AM (TE35l)

150 I take funky funky beats and I loop it And pimp-slap you in the face with the bass And the boom from the bomb that I drop Stop

Posted by: Shit Rousseau Said, Vol. LV at April 26, 2014 07:18 AM (Gxtki)

151 The JEF is such a "fake model"

Posted by: Thunderb at April 26, 2014 07:19 AM (zOTsN)

152 I like Canadians, i really do. Lots of them voted for me and those votes have made a big difference. My only issue is that I can't understand them, since they speak Canadian. When I'm out of office I'm going to buy a Rosetta Stone program and learn the language while I drive back and forth to Hawaii.

Posted by: President Obama at April 26, 2014 07:19 AM (F58x4)

153 "It's just the way it is....we are a third rate pension system and health insurance scam artist with some nuclear weapons and a lot of retard lawyers."

Small correction, we are an "unfunded" third rate pension system and health insurance scam artist with some nuclear weapons and a lot of retard lawyers.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 26, 2014 07:19 AM (IV4od)

154 @149

-.-. --- ..- .-.. -.. -. --- - .- --. .-. . . -- --- .-. .

Posted by: Hadoop at April 26, 2014 07:19 AM (Ph479)

155 153 New thread up for more politics and news. Posted by: Y-not at April 26, 2014 11:18 AM (zDsvJ) Shoot, I just sat down. Now I have to get up again. Uff da.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 26, 2014 07:19 AM (oMKp3)

156 I have not yet begun to tweet! JP Jones

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 26, 2014 07:19 AM (MKpBT)

157 An angry Canadian once called Americans " A bunch of Shatner stealing Mexico touchers".

Posted by: jrg at April 26, 2014 07:20 AM (SlxsT)

158 Well, I can hear the ad already: "Canadian Bacon....It's BAAA-aaack"

Posted by: Kindltot at April 26, 2014 07:20 AM (vTrNt)

159 The Sun Never Sets On The British Empire "There'll Always Be an England" Look across The Pond, that's us in less than a decade

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2014 07:21 AM (aTXUx)

160 Stop with the Morse code, dash it all!

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 26, 2014 07:22 AM (MKpBT)

161 158 Posted by: lowandslow at April 26, 2014 11:19 AM (IV4od)

Underfunded...by ONLY about 150% of what we would demand of a private plan but "yeah"...

it's not like the fucking confiscatory and regressive tax structure of either program is going away.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 26, 2014 07:22 AM (TE35l)

162 Shoot, I just sat down. Now I have to get up again. Uff da. Posted by: grammie winger at April 26, 2014 11:19 AM (oMKp3) Thanks a bunch for sticking that Chumbawumba song in my head

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2014 07:22 AM (aTXUx)

163
   Heya Sven.

a) Read the comments--BUT I don't think a national divorce is in the cards, more like a come to Jesus moment with our side prevailing. Done mostly peacefully.

We CAN win or rewin, more correctly, with people who understand the stakes. And ones like you I'd prefer to have right up front. You get it.

    My part in this is down here at the local level where it MUST start in order to be viable at the upper level (DC).

   Not just blind America and the Hapsburg analogy doesn't work, that is apples and oranges.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2014 07:23 AM (SAMxH)

164 168 Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2014 11:23 AM (SAMxH)

Really?

America and Austria-Hungary actually work really well IMHO because part of what doomed the A-H was state Multi-Culti hood "racial" set asides and bad debt load.

I hope you're right and strongly suspect I am.

Sorry....there is no come to Jesus moment coming.

Offer 5 bucks to neighborhood teens who can correctly identify which matters more.

Putin or Gay Marriage.

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 26, 2014 07:26 AM (TE35l)

165 I need more coffee. I know it was de Toqueville and not Rousseau, but fingers thought "19th century French guy" and came up with Rousseau. I hereby move that a mistake like that should be a Barrel offense

Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2014 07:26 AM (aTXUx)

166 -.-- --- ..- ... -- .- .-. - .- ... ... . ... .- -. -.. -.-- --- ..- .-. ..-. .- -. -.-. -.-- -- --- .-. ... . -.-. --- -.. . .-.. --- .-..

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 26, 2014 07:26 AM (MKpBT)

167 97 Hate to rain on the optimists parade, but I just don't feel that what made us a special people exists any longer, especially in the Millenial generation Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2014 10:56 AM (aTXUx) Ever read Strauss & Howe's The Fourth Turning? They have an interesting cyclical theory of history. They explicitly compare the Millennials to the World War II generation. You know, the generation who came of age in the late 30s with their silly obsession with jitterbugging and zoot suits? I read it a couple of years ago and I haven't thought of the Millennials the same way since.

Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2014 07:28 AM (sdi6R)

168
   Still not going to shake my faith in my country, and let me stress, I do NOT wear rose colored glasses.

   Gotta go, there are grandkids to torment and fish to catch today.

      Have a fine day, good people.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2014 07:31 AM (SAMxH)

169 Have a nice day, irongrampa. *** I have been struck in the last couple of years by the fact that many of the very young people (Millennials) that I encounter in fast food and retail establishments tend to be clean-cut, smiling, and polite. It's interesting.

Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2014 07:36 AM (sdi6R)

170 Have a nice day, irongrampa. *** I have been struck in the last couple of years by the fact that many of the very young people (Millennials) that I encounter in fast food and retail establishments tend to be clean-cut, smiling, and polite. It's interesting.

Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2014 07:36 AM (sdi6R)

171 and the "Non-Partisan Civil Service" still runs the show and will act as a counter "insurgency"....

It's just the way it is....we are a third rate pension system and health insurance scam artist with some nuclear weapons and a lot of retard lawyers.

That's "America"
Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077
======
Sorry, Sven, I'll have to call you on that one. If conservatives had such a monopoly on all three branches of of the federal government, there would be NO rogue elements in the federal civil service. Zero. Nada. For the record, I like a loyal opposition strong enough to call the majority to account.

Posted by: mrp at April 26, 2014 07:37 AM (JBggj)

172 They'll save you a seat at the barbershop to sit and fart and burp and bitch. Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 26, 2014 11:15 AM (xq1UY) You'd think that, wouldn't you. But no, these days the bastards make me call in advance, and woe be unto you who so much as sneaks a cheek. Don't even get me started. Damn kids today with their clothes and their hair...

Posted by: jwpaine at April 26, 2014 07:38 AM (68O4K)

173 Gas lines in the 70s were caused by price controls. The price was held artificially low for the demand and supply, this caused increased demand (it was more valuable) and then there was a scramble to get as much as possible. Since the goal was to make sure everyone got a modest bit, and not to make sure someone would buy out the store, they instituted rationing (even odd in the 70s) and black markets where the cost generally winds up at the price of gas plus the cost of evading the rationing for those that must buy. It always happens this way. The alternate is that the price floats freely on demand and supply, the higher cost moderates purchases and the costs stabilize. People call this unfair because "some people can't afford the higher price" but rationing brings an even higher price so you can either be screwed by the invisible hand that doesn't care if you succeed or fail or fucked harder by an interventionist state that is looking to profit for itself and make sure its buddies do better than you.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 26, 2014 07:39 AM (vTrNt)

174 175 Posted by: mrp at April 26, 2014 11:37 AM (JBggj)

I don't agree and rereading my writings of Six Years ago I would have then.

http://disqus.com/sven10077/

We will always be undermined by Juan "You have nothing to fear from Hillary! or Barack!" Queeg types who think we should just allow the civil service to run on auto-pilot.

The EPA runs the country now....

Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 26, 2014 07:39 AM (TE35l)

175 Gardening thread up.

Posted by: Y-not at April 26, 2014 07:46 AM (zDsvJ)

176 WaitaminnitÂ… am I seeing a lack of respect for the 70's automobile? The Roadrunner? The Charger? The GTO? And, of courseÂ… http://i.imgur.com/GvPom.jpg

Posted by: JohnInOhio at April 26, 2014 09:15 AM (xtzC7)

177 HmmmÂ… link didn't take. Let's try this oneÂ… http://tinyurl.com/kv7e8g2

Posted by: JohnInOhio at April 26, 2014 09:16 AM (xtzC7)

178 The EPA runs the country now....
Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 26, 2014 11:39 AM
========
Sure, NOW the EPA has far too much discretionary power and has shown a healthy appetite for more of the same.

My point was based on your hypothetical All-Conservative domination of Congress, the Executive Branch, and the Judiciary. If the voters of this country swung that hard to the right, the EPA would vanish, as well as several currently existing departments. Any civil servant trying to circumvent ummmm.... reforms ... would be keel-hauled, like federal whistle-blowers are today. The FEC, FDA, etc.. overhauled or shoved overboard.

Posted by: mrp at April 26, 2014 09:35 AM (JBggj)

179 He has aged very gracefully and seems to be content with a small yet devoted cult following.

Always like Al Stewart. Finally got to see him in a small-concert venue in 2008. Wow, that distinctive voice. He sounds just like he did when I first heard him in the 70s.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 26, 2014 09:45 AM (fTJ5O)

180 110 Thank you Not so weird Dave! Needed to be said. We need to fight, not watch it burn Posted by: Thunderb at April 26, 2014 11:00 AM HERE, HERE! I'M IN! Patriots don't let the country burn!

Posted by: W.W. Grant at April 26, 2014 05:48 PM (88OyH)

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