April 25, 2014
— Ace Via Instapundit, Byron York urges the Non-Native-American Elizabeth Warren to run because "life is unpredictable."
Clinton will be 69 years old on inauguration day 2017, nearly the oldest president ever. She has had a few health scares. By all accounts, she left her previous four-year stint in government service exhausted. She might not run, and the Democrat in second place in the polls, Vice President Joe Biden — 74 on inauguration day — is too old to be president. Beyond them, Democrats have nobody — except Elizabeth Warren. . . . She will be 67 on Inauguration Day 2017. (Has any party ever fielded a group as old as Clinton, Biden and Warren?)
I think the aged Elizabeth Warren is probably running in a Plan B sort of way -- as an insurance policy, in case the elderly Hillary Clinton and ancient Joe Biden turns out to be too frail for a White House run.
I had a good chuckle over this National Journal piece attempting to defuse the Age Problem for the Progressive Cause.
The piece attempted to suggest Hillary Clinton's age upon her hypothetical inauguration -- 69, same as Reagan's at his inauguration -- was different than Reagan's age, because, Actuarial Life-Expectancy Tables.
As a general matter, when you're trying to argue someone isn't old, and your best argument consists of busting out the actuarial tables for the life expectancy of elderly people, you're probably doing more harm than good.
But here's the claim:
The age comparisons between Hillary Clinton and Ronald Reagan seem as natural as they are nonsensical.
Nonsensical? How is one 69 year old so different from another that it becomes "nonsensical" to compare them?
Yes, Hillary is a woman, and they have somewhat longer life expectancies than men-- a point this piece is going to rely on to the exclusion of all else.
But "nonsensical"?
Yes, were Clinton to win in 2016, she would take office at age 69—just as Reagan did in 1981. And yes, the comparison is often made when Clinton's critics and allies debate whether she has the health to serve out two presidential terms.But it's a wildly misleading comparison, as the number that matters when assessing Clinton's health is not her age, but her life expectancy. And there is where the Clinton-Reagan comparison is revealed as a stretch.
A combination of federal data and a more nuanced approach to calculating Clinton's life expectancy—one that includes her gender, era, and other factors—projects the would-be president living to age 86. That means Clinton would live a full 17 years after taking office, more than enough time to serve out two terms.
Under the same criteria used to calculate Clinton's life expectancy, Reagan upon inauguration was projected to live to 81—12 projected years after taking the oath to Clinton's 17.
So a five year difference in life expectancy?
And based upon that, it was perfectly sensible for the Left to constantly invoke Reagan's age as a reason to not vote for him, but it's nonsensical to suggest the same with the venerable Clinton?
Incidentally, Hillary had a health scare a couple of years ago we continue to know very little about. Obviously, this hasn't been factored into this (and I use this term advisedly) analysis.
Moving past the Reagan comparison reveals a complicated picture for Clinton. In terms of total life expectancy, were she to win in 2016, Clinton would take office with the longest projected total life expectancy of any president in the modern area.
This is such an irrelevant, nonsensical sentence that I don't know what it's doing here. They're saying Hillary will have the longest life expectancy of any president before her... but not post-inauguration life expectancy, as this nonsensical bit of data doesn't consider when in her life she would become president.
So, yeah, she'll have a longer life expectancy than her husband... but her husband became president at 43, whereas the Methusala-esque HRC would become president at 69.
Big difference.
But in terms of life expectancy after inauguration, Clinton's projected remaining years after taking office are dwarfed by total projected years forecast for our most recent presidents on their opening inauguration days: Barack Obama (32 projected years), George W. Bush (24.5 projected years), and Bill Clinton (30 projected years).The best Hillary Clinton comparisons of life expectancy are to Richard Nixon (19 projected years after taking office), Gerald Ford (16 projected years), and George H.W. Bush (16 projected years)—all three of whom managed to take office without having to contend with concerns about their age.
Before Clinton's name entered the conversation, the most recent candidate to face age questions was 2008's unsuccessful Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain. Had he won, McCain would have taken office at 72 and was projected to live another 13 years—four fewer than Clinton.
And there was a great deal of Progressive Chatter about the possibility he would die in office or become too senile to carry out his duties -- these claims made in order to highlight the alleged hypothetical nightmare of President Sarah Palin.
Were those fears also "nonsensical"? These authors seem to be placing an awful lot of distinction in a basket that only holds four years' worth of difference between Hillary's and McCain's post-inaugural life expectancy.
Why, it's almost nonsensical -- almost as the writers were just Good Progressives using any claim at hand to knock down a troublesome meme that could threaten their preferred progressive candidate.
At the end of the article they admit that crucial information is missing from their analysis -- Hillary Clinton's actual health records.
And I'm sure we'll be receiving those.
She's so open about every other aspect of her life.
Elizabeth Warren (67) for President
Because it's time to give Youth a chance.
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Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at April 25, 2014 01:09 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Judith Miller at April 25, 2014 01:09 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 25, 2014 01:10 PM (TNcMy)
Posted by: arminius at April 25, 2014 01:12 PM (cDnhR)
There is a lot of difference in Beast and Gipper, He was getting senile by the end of his term, Beast was born stupid. And ugly, and now stupid, ugly, and old. She's a triple threat. We must elect Jeb or FBR to save the GOP!
/s
Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 01:12 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: AMDG at April 25, 2014 01:12 PM (eFytx)
Posted by: Vlad The Nuclear Impaler at April 25, 2014 01:12 PM (QgAFR)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 25, 2014 01:12 PM (1UzRc)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2014 01:13 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 01:13 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Hate Miser at April 25, 2014 01:13 PM (IlmuV)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 25, 2014 01:13 PM (1UzRc)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 01:14 PM (CMkNk)
Hillary's other problem is her memory. She can't seem to remember a lot of stuff. Its like a slow Alzheimers. She couldn't remember how cattle futures work, or where she kept her law firm files, or her whitewater scam continuing through current day to Benghazi.
Hillary: What Difference does Memory Make? (tm)
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Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at April 25, 2014 01:16 PM (/AHDz)
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Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2014 01:16 PM (UjHCx)
And there was a great deal of Progressive Chatter about the possibility he would die in office or become too senile to carry out his duties -- these claims made in order to highlight the alleged hypothetical nightmare of President Sarah Palin.
Were those fears also "nonsensical"?That possibility was the reason I voted for McCain.
Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 01:16 PM (hO9ad)
She's the picture of health!!
She obviously exercises regularly, eats right and takes care of herself. That figure doesn't just get that way by accident.
Posted by: wiserbud at April 25, 2014 01:16 PM (NXg/k)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 01:17 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 25, 2014 01:17 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 01:17 PM (UD2qu)
Whereas we now know he was too senile to carry out his duties even before the 2008 primaries.
Actually, I do remember the local liberal loons claiming that it was _mathematically impossible_ for McCain to survive even one single term in office, given his sketchy prior health history. He would just conk out right there in the Oval Office.
Now, _six_ years later and with McCain in continued robust good health, well, just about the only words that can sum the guy up are FUCKING ENERGIZER BUNNY JUST DIE ALREADY PLEASE.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 01:17 PM (noWW6)
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Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 01:21 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 25, 2014 01:21 PM (kqGWM)
Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 01:21 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 25, 2014 01:21 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 25, 2014 01:21 PM (gtjN1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 01:21 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: The Tuzla Sniper at April 25, 2014 01:22 PM (8ZskC)
Yep. Wherein the Democratic Party will demonstrate its ironclad commitment to youth and ethnic diversity by putting forward three white people, all of whom are old enough for Medicare.
Gonna be funny watching whiter-than-an-albino-polar-bear-in-a-blizzard Fauxcohontas trying to play the "diversity" card in the primaries while desperately dodging the issue of DNA tests.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 01:22 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at April 25, 2014 01:22 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2014 01:22 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Chris Hayes at April 25, 2014 01:22 PM (oari7)
Give Hillary an opportunity to hold his state funeral during the 2020 primary?
Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 01:22 PM (hO9ad)
I've already started drinking....
Give me another couple of kegs and she might start looking feminine....
Posted by: wiserbud at April 25, 2014 01:22 PM (NXg/k)
Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at April 25, 2014 01:22 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: elaine at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (YNYXJ)
Posted by: Robert Jordan at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (TNcMy)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: The Hillary! Campaign Slogan Evaluation Committee at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (ZshNr)
And blue hair.
Posted by: rickb223
A dish of ribbon candy covered with cat hair on the desk in the Oval Office.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 25, 2014 01:23 PM (MKpBT)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 25, 2014 01:24 PM (Hw3Gh)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:24 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: The Tuzla Sniper at April 25, 2014 05:22 PM (8ZskC)
We wouldn't be having this conversation if you could hit a bear in the ass with a base fiddle you jerky, shakey, trigger jerkin' son of a black dog.
Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 01:24 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 01:24 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: That Wierd Dude with the Gloves at April 25, 2014 01:24 PM (knoK7)
60 is the new 59.
Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 05:20 PM (DxThd)
Is someone in the first 59 comments up for trollbusting?
Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 01:24 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 01:24 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 25, 2014 01:25 PM (Mogjf)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 25, 2014 01:25 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 01:25 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:25 PM (9W+0f)
And little sachets of lavender in all the drawers.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 01:25 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 01:25 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: MJ at April 25, 2014 01:26 PM (oari7)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:26 PM (9W+0f)
Hillary may be in her late 60's but by election time, a busload of doctors will come forth stating that after many medical tests, she PHYSICALLY has the body of a 35 year old woman.
Therefore her age doesn't matter.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 25, 2014 01:26 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 01:26 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 25, 2014 01:26 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Nicholas Cage as President Barack Obama at April 25, 2014 01:26 PM (APuJ7)
And now I finally get the importance of the Doctor's suggestion that she looked tired.
Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 01:26 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 25, 2014 01:26 PM (1UzRc)
Posted by: BignJames at April 25, 2014 01:26 PM (j7iSn)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:27 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 25, 2014 01:27 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 01:27 PM (APuJ7)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 01:27 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: The Tuzla Sniper at April 25, 2014 01:27 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: MJ at April 25, 2014 01:27 PM (oari7)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 25, 2014 01:27 PM (1UzRc)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2014 01:27 PM (UjHCx)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 25, 2014 01:28 PM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Soothsayer § explains his commenting process at April 25, 2014 01:28 PM (DxThd)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 01:28 PM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 25, 2014 01:28 PM (thLL8)
For the love of all that's holy, we do not need another "popped out of nowhere with no experience" historic first, half-term senator running. We've seen how that movie ends. Which means, of course, that Granny Warren will definitely be the Dem nominee.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 01:28 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:28 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 25, 2014 01:28 PM (kqGWM)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 01:28 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 01:28 PM (APuJ7)
Posted by: MJ at April 25, 2014 05:26 PM (oari7)
From your mouth to God's ear.
That would be awesome.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 25, 2014 01:29 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2014 01:29 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: zigggyeeee at April 25, 2014 01:29 PM (AsMdZ)
Posted by: Soothsayer § explains his commenting process at April 25, 2014 01:29 PM (DxThd)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 25, 2014 01:29 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
Presidential Commission on Bunions
Posted by: Dang at April 25, 2014 01:29 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 01:29 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 25, 2014 01:29 PM (MKpBT)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2014 01:29 PM (UjHCx)
Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 25, 2014 01:31 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: Frank Sinatra at April 25, 2014 01:31 PM (yRwC8)
Here in the SF Bay Area, the "Ready For Hillary!!!" bumper stickers appeared within (not kidding) about 72 hours after Election Day 2012.
That fast. Early aggressive expensive battlespace prep. Team Clinton is not taking anything for granted.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 01:31 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 01:31 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 05:13 PM (UD2qu)
Like Grandpa Simpson, Vic was spanked by Grover Cleveland on two non-consecutive occasions.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Ragey. My Friends at April 25, 2014 01:31 PM (4RSqo)
Though, that's always a good idea with Bill on the prowl.
Posted by: Hate Miser at April 25, 2014 01:31 PM (IlmuV)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 25, 2014 01:31 PM (0LHZx)
I have a recipe somewhere for lavender and honey ice cream. That was good stuff.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 01:31 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 01:31 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 01:31 PM (APuJ7)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:32 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: BignJames at April 25, 2014 01:32 PM (j7iSn)
Posted by: Martin O'Malley, totes serious You Guys and Hons at April 25, 2014 01:32 PM (Cjjf6)
Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at April 25, 2014 01:32 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2014 01:32 PM (DmNpO)
I don't really think that Hillary is all that popular with women in general.
There is not much about her that most women can relate to.
Her big claim to fame? ...Being an enabler for her sexual predator husband.
Posted by: wheatie at April 25, 2014 01:32 PM (la7X9)
And a day before his death, even while suffering the way he did during his decline, he still would have governed the country a fuck of a lot better than Hillary ever could, or Barry the Clown Prince is.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 25, 2014 01:32 PM (TM1p8)
*******************
But at least she's a looker.
http://tinyurl.com/mww9f59
Posted by: jeannebodine at April 25, 2014 01:32 PM (2LJqa)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 25, 2014 01:33 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
It's a stain on our country that we haven't had a female President...
Posted by: McCain & The Righteous RINO Rodeo at April 25, 2014 01:33 PM (ujux6)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 25, 2014 01:33 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 01:33 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Huma Abedin at April 25, 2014 01:33 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 25, 2014 01:33 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 25, 2014 01:33 PM (0HooB)
McCain and Hilly get slogged at the ranch in Arizona and commiserate about getting their asses kicked by Barky.
McCain declares (I) and becomes Hellary's running mate.
I'm starting this rumor right now.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at April 25, 2014 01:33 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: eleven at April 25, 2014 01:33 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at April 25, 2014 01:34 PM (Cjjf6)
Posted by: --- at April 25, 2014 01:34 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 25, 2014 01:34 PM (MKpBT)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 25, 2014 01:34 PM (kqGWM)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 01:34 PM (APuJ7)
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 01:34 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 25, 2014 01:34 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: nannyhag at April 25, 2014 01:34 PM (39IHH)
The ones with the picture of an open grave?
Posted by: Dang at April 25, 2014 01:34 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:34 PM (9W+0f)
Setting aside matters of policy, character, experience, and performance in office ... the key to a candidate isn't what the actuarial tables say, but the state of the individual's health.
Reagan was willing to certified by a team of physicians that he was in good health. Clinton isn't - or if she is, I haven't heard of it. Draw your own conclusions.
Of course, Democrats have a long history of covering up serious health problems in their candidates. With JFK, they were willing hand the nuclear button to a guy who was taking large doses of steroids to control his Addison's disease. So if Hillary! is in marginal health, I don't expect candor from her.
Posted by: Brown Line at April 25, 2014 01:35 PM (VrNoa)
Posted by: MJ at April 25, 2014 01:35 PM (oari7)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 01:35 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 25, 2014 01:35 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 25, 2014 01:35 PM (Mogjf)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 25, 2014 01:35 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: John McCain at April 25, 2014 01:35 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2014 01:36 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: eleven at April 25, 2014 01:36 PM (fsLdt)
Serpentine! Serpentine!
Posted by: Vince at April 25, 2014 01:36 PM (gDHxV)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 01:36 PM (APuJ7)
Hollywood will have Hillary on plenty of talk shows. And on one of them, probably an MTV award show, Hillary Clinton will start a sexy new dance craze of pelvic thrusting and grinding that will promptly become the new 'twerking.'
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 25, 2014 01:36 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Dang at April 25, 2014 01:36 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 25, 2014 01:37 PM (IXrOn)
"she has the body of a 35 year old woman."
An early morning jogger in Fort Marcy Park found the body of the unidentified women...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 25, 2014 01:37 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:37 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 25, 2014 01:37 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 01:37 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 25, 2014 05:36 PM"
Dude....that was not a good thing you just did.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 01:37 PM (knoK7)
Again.
Both places on the ticket since 1984.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 25, 2014 05:16 PM (1UzRc)
You know who else went to law school?
Cobs.
Commenters.
The fucking owner of the blog.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 25, 2014 05:20 PM (GEICT)
++++
Ace went to law school? Oh my. Did he finish; pass the bar; practice law?
I don't know which is more troubling, this or that whole speaking French thing.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 25, 2014 01:37 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Kreplach at April 25, 2014 01:37 PM (5TFvk)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 25, 2014 01:38 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2014 01:38 PM (UQKe/)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 25, 2014 01:38 PM (pgQxn)
there was this asshole French or Belgian singer who was like maybe 70 who got his bang Chimpy on back in '03...
anyhow I decided "when your youth demographic is aged 55-65 you have some fucking problems....
They better pray the kids never figure out what they are up to b/c the hippies are that "youth demographic" level
Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 01:38 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Elizabeth de Bathory at April 25, 2014 01:38 PM (8ZskC)
Jesse Jackson Jr.
Tanned, rested, ready.
---
Still in prison
Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 01:38 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: The Criminologist at April 25, 2014 01:38 PM (APuJ7)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 01:38 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: MJ at April 25, 2014 01:39 PM (oari7)
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 01:39 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: BignJames at April 25, 2014 01:39 PM (j7iSn)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:39 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 01:39 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Lester at April 25, 2014 01:39 PM (2UPXV)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 25, 2014 01:39 PM (rt3TY)
Posted by: King Barakan the First at April 25, 2014 01:39 PM (Fp7JI)
Ready For Hillary" bumper stickers have been common around SoCal since last summer.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
On the rear bumpers of hearses...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 25, 2014 01:39 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 25, 2014 01:40 PM (gtjN1)
Posted by: eleven at April 25, 2014 01:40 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2014 01:40 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2014 01:40 PM (UjHCx)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 25, 2014 01:41 PM (MKpBT)
Posted by: nannyhag at April 25, 2014 01:41 PM (39IHH)
Posted by: MJ at April 25, 2014 01:41 PM (oari7)
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 01:41 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 25, 2014 01:41 PM (thLL8)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 25, 2014 01:41 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2014 01:41 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 25, 2014 01:42 PM (ZshNr)
Well, no dinner tonight.
Posted by: wiserbud at April 25, 2014 01:42 PM (NXg/k)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 25, 2014 01:42 PM (gtjN1)
Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 25, 2014 01:42 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 25, 2014 01:42 PM (MKpBT)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 01:42 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 01:42 PM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 01:43 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2014 01:43 PM (DmNpO)
White male with solid credentials. That way she can demonstrate her female superiority over the male hierarchy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 25, 2014 01:43 PM (QFxY5)
Of course the concern was never about the president DYING, it was about SENILITY, and unfitness for the rigors of the office, after a certain age. And women suffer Alzheimer's more frequently, and at a younger average onset, than men.
So crazy ole Hillary will be rattling about the White House for a full 8 years, God willing....
Posted by: notropis at April 25, 2014 01:43 PM (bvlUm)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 25, 2014 01:43 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: metzengerstein at April 25, 2014 01:43 PM (I9ETa)
Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 01:43 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 25, 2014 01:44 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 01:44 PM (HVff2)
Bang Chimpy=s BDS =s Bush Derangement Syndrome
The effort against Bush was a coordinated international effort...sorta like Ogabe's donation cycles
Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 01:44 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: MJ at April 25, 2014 05:41 PM (oari7)
Oh...much!
Maybe we should have a thread dedicated to some soft-core porn with Hillary as the focus.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 25, 2014 01:44 PM (QFxY5)
At least it'll be harder for them to push their global warming agenda when the thermostat in the White House is always set at 82°.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo
Space heater under the table in the Cabinet Room.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 25, 2014 01:45 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2014 01:45 PM (UQKe/)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel
Twerking in Depends?! Better stand back... this could get messy.
Posted by: Dang at April 25, 2014 01:45 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 01:45 PM (gOoFi)
Posted by: tcn at April 25, 2014 01:45 PM (lp+pe)
For your sister:
New York/New Jersey Moron Meet-up
Thursday, May 1st
6pm-9pm
West Village
All Morons and their handlers are welcome.
for additional info, email me at:
nynjmeet at optimum dot net
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 25, 2014 01:45 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 01:46 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 25, 2014 01:46 PM (kqGWM)
Posted by: BignJames at April 25, 2014 01:46 PM (j7iSn)
They share the same address legally....
and take reciprocating trips to fuck their matching taste for younger women.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 01:46 PM (TE35l)
He's been denying any WH ambitions, so, yeah...he's in.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 01:46 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: Huma Abedin at April 25, 2014 01:46 PM (/AHDz)
Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2014 01:46 PM (UQKe/)
Posted by: tcn at April 25, 2014 01:46 PM (lp+pe)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 01:47 PM (gOoFi)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 25, 2014 01:47 PM (gtjN1)
Merry Xmas....
I'll be there in spirit
Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 01:47 PM (TE35l)
And dropping acid.
"And banging hookers and Soviet agents."
And mob molls, and underage teen girls.
I do honestly sometimes wonder whether the CIA whacked Kennedy because they realized, with their inside intelligence, that the guy was increasingly psychologically unstable and would likely end up getting the country on the wrong side of a thermonuclear exchange if allowed to continue in office.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 01:47 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Escape from your cocoon at April 25, 2014 01:47 PM (pmsMR)
He may have been a drugged up philandering, overhyped psycho but he was an America loving hopped up psycho...
something I can't say of any Donkey since
Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 01:48 PM (TE35l)
Only 77% of one.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 01:48 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: eleven at April 25, 2014 01:49 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 01:49 PM (yz6yg)
228 I don't really think that Hillary is all that popular with women in general.
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But! But! But! the first thing I heard on the news this morning was that 69% of women want her to run.
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Yeah, I think that's bullshit, NDH.
Who knows how they phrased that question.
Her blind ambition for Power is the only reason she's stayed with Bubba.
This has been evident for a long time.
I think most women would like to see a 'woman president', some day.
Just...NOT Hillary.
Posted by: wheatie at April 25, 2014 01:49 PM (la7X9)
Posted by: --- at April 25, 2014 01:49 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2014 01:49 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 01:49 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 25, 2014 01:50 PM (0LHZx)
It's a New Class rank signifier to insist on separate everything. Only commoners are expected to share things.
Example: Hillary and Mooch both went to Betty Ford's funeral.
They left Andrews Air Force base at the same time on the same day heading to the same destination, Palm Springs, and then both flew directly back to Andrews later that evening.
Aboard two separate aircraft.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 01:50 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 25, 2014 01:50 PM (8ZskC)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/m8c9836 Posted by: bonhomme
Reminds me of the old National Parks post cards showing cars driving through those giant hollowed out tree trunks.
Posted by: Dang at April 25, 2014 01:50 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: --- at April 25, 2014 01:51 PM (MMC8r)
Pimping her faux ancestry for career advancement would become a much, much bigger deal in a national election
Posted by: Walter Freeman
Kerry pretty much survived the raking over of his war record, and he was essentially a pathologically lying traitor to his country. And ended up just one Ohio away from winning it all.
Warren would sail.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 25, 2014 01:51 PM (kdS6q)
Aaaaaaaaand I stopped reading right at that point, thanks.
::: desperately shaking the brain bleach bottle :::
Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 01:51 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 25, 2014 01:52 PM (oMKp3)
eh let me offer a contratemp...
Kerry lost because he is shit.
The nation wanted to make Horrywood happy and the newsies happy but they ran .50 Kerry and his war shit cost him the 10 points goodwill they had.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 01:52 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 25, 2014 01:53 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 25, 2014 01:53 PM (gtjN1)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 25, 2014 01:56 PM (kqGWM)
Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 01:56 PM (yRwC8)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 25, 2014 01:56 PM (Fp7JI)
I'm sure Dr. Howard Dean is the Democratic Party's Herbert West and can re-animate Hillary as needed.
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 25, 2014 01:57 PM (BAS5M)
Kerry lost because he is shit.
Posted by: sven10077
Alllllmost won. Remember staying up all night waiting to see which way the Buckeye State would go?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 25, 2014 01:58 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 25, 2014 01:59 PM (ys4JB)
I was on the horn with my Ohio contacts....
but like I said Jungle John *should* have won...
fuck Silky Pony would have beat Bush I think.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 02:00 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 25, 2014 02:04 PM (QBm1P)
Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] An Observation at April 25, 2014 02:05 PM (ylhEn)
You're welcome....
//M$M and GOP harpies
Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 02:06 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Miguel Ambivalence@sven10077 at April 25, 2014 02:06 PM (TE35l)
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