February 15, 2014

The Sweet Tears of Epic Failure - [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse]
— Open Blogger

Footage has been discovered of the aftermath of the failed UAW attempt to unionize the Volkswagon plant in Chattanooga, TN. Ordinarily, I loathe gloating. It's just bad form. I prefer that winners act like, well, winners.

In this case, however, I'll make an exception.

Behold the joyous celebration.


South Park marathon on Comedy Central now underway.


Open thread.

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1 1?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 15, 2014 02:15 PM (lFtaG)

2 Awesome!

Posted by: EC at February 15, 2014 02:17 PM (doBIb)

3 Foist!!!  OMG!!!

Posted by: Jenk at February 15, 2014 02:17 PM (e2ysZ)

4 Isn't that the same episode where Cartman killed his mother?

Posted by: EC at February 15, 2014 02:17 PM (doBIb)

5 Damn....

Posted by: Jenk at February 15, 2014 02:17 PM (e2ysZ)

6 Could have used the same footage for Pooty Poots hockey sadness.

Posted by: steevy at February 15, 2014 02:19 PM (zqvg6)

7 Democracy died tonight! This is the end of America as we know it!

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 02:19 PM (oMKp3)

8

Heh.

Yeah, NDH...it's hard not to enjoy the tears of union thugs.

 

TN is a right-to-work state, isn't it?

I think it is.

Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 02:20 PM (eCZwh)

9 Speaking of sweet tears, Norwegian mass murderer thinks he's being tortured. http://tinyurl.com/kejgc8j

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 15, 2014 02:20 PM (E+uky)

10 9 Ikea jail is rough yo!

Posted by: steevy at February 15, 2014 02:21 PM (zqvg6)

11 Think they'll just give up and let American workers alone? No way.

Posted by: t-bird at February 15, 2014 02:21 PM (FcR7P)

12 I dig goating.

Posted by: Achmed the Terrorist at February 15, 2014 02:24 PM (OpRai)

13 I still have to pay the fucking teamsters so I can have my job. Fuck Closed Shops

Posted by: Zakn at February 15, 2014 02:24 PM (zyaZ1)

14 Hahahaha.  I remember having to join a Union when I worked at a grocery store bagging groceries.  What a waste.  They took $16 dollars from me every month in 1979 dollars for Jack and Squat.  If you quit the union or didn't
"want" to join in the first place you wouldn't have been there long. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 15, 2014 02:25 PM (jucos)

15 Fahrfucktheuawnugen...for the win.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at February 15, 2014 02:25 PM (ySU/u)

16 13 I still have to pay the fucking teamsters so I can have my job. Fuck Closed Shops ======== For the life of me, I cannot fathom how this is remotely American. Or legal.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 02:25 PM (oMKp3)

17 12 I see what you did here.

Posted by: Ms. M at February 15, 2014 02:26 PM (+qScL)

18 I've said this 3 times already but be aware the unions will appeal and they will appeal to the NLRB which Obama has packed with union thugs thanks to the "deal" the GOP leadership made.


They will either call for an immediate new election for a second chance in which they will intimidate the hell out those 100 or so workers who voted against it or just go who hog and "deem" it passed.



The unions wanted this one BAD and while criminals are running everything in the executive branch they can get what they want.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 15, 2014 02:26 PM (T2V/1)

19

Where do you work Zakn?

Or I should say what do you do?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 15, 2014 02:26 PM (jucos)

20 Leftardscrugen.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 15, 2014 02:26 PM (OpRai)

21 "The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to Socialism." -- Karl Marx Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 15, 2014 02:27 PM (thBHI)

22 16  For the life of me, I cannot fathom how this is remotely American. Or legal.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 06:25 PM (oMKp3)



Thank commie FDR

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 15, 2014 02:27 PM (T2V/1)

23 Why should you have to pay money to a third party in order to work? It's extortion.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 02:29 PM (oMKp3)

24 Go over to Daily Kooks and enjoy the sweet miserable tears of the libtards in one of the many diaries bemoaning how the Koch brothers must have been behind this or how Corker's comments were criminal.. hahahhahahahha.. fucktards..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 15, 2014 02:29 PM (b/lt+)

25 Ikea jail is rough yo!
It is. You keep on getting shivved with those little L-shaped screw-tighteners.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 15, 2014 02:30 PM (vAnfs)

26

This is why Unions want 'card check' so bad...and also want to do away with secret ballot.

 

When given the choice, most people don't see the need to join a friggin union.

 

Unions don't want people to have a choice.

And they want to be able to see who is not voting for it...so they can threaten them.

Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 02:30 PM (eCZwh)

27 A Missouri House commission endorsed a Right-to-Work package they had before them this week. If it clears the Legislature, it will go on the ballot.

Posted by: --- at February 15, 2014 02:31 PM (MMC8r)

28 I wonder why the Volkswagen boys in the fatherland wanted this. It would be pretty easy to compare unionized automakers in the US to, say, Honda.

Posted by: kartoffel at February 15, 2014 02:32 PM (07vvi)

29 It was very interesting to read the UAW's take on this and why they wanted it so badly.  They've lost 3/4 of their peak membership, their new workers will make less by far than those in the nonunion transplants, and everyone views them as nothing but a group of criminal thugs.  The only way they can see to survive is to persuade workers in other countries to join forces with them and do to their companies what the UAW did to the American ones.  Other than that, their future is bright. 

Posted by: pep at February 15, 2014 02:33 PM (6TB1Z)

30 It's like you people don't want to be the next Detroit!

Posted by: UAW at February 15, 2014 02:37 PM (FcR7P)

31

23 Why should you have to pay money to a third party in order to work? It's extortion.

 

Well yeah, grammie winger...the whole thing about unions is extortion.

 

The unions extort from the workers.

The unions extort from the businesses.

 

Extortion is what they do.

 

And don't get me started on Govt Unions.

Which I think should be illegal.

Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 02:37 PM (eCZwh)

32 I think I'll celebrate and watch 'on the Waterfront' again tonight.

Posted by: --- at February 15, 2014 02:38 PM (MMC8r)

33 4 Isn't that the same episode where Cartman killed his mother?


Posted by: EC at February 15, 2014 06:17 PM (doBIb)

 

He didn't kill his mother.  He merely tricked Scott Tennerman into luring his parents to a place where they would be trespassing and killed.  And he then proceeded to steal their dead bodies, cut them up and then put them into the chili that Scott ate. 

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2014 02:41 PM (LI48c)

34 Shit.  I just saw openings in two counties that would have been on my transfer list, but Philadelphia has effectively stomped on transfers out--for now anyway.  I'm fed up with the FSA contingent here, I've no use for either the spineless political hacks we have as managers or senior union reps, and now I'm not allowed to get outta here?  Operational needs my dying ass--you clowns promised everything to a bunch of sponges and illegals who won't be satisfied whatever you do, you caved in to a bunch of community shysters determined to stick it to you, and you won't let me leave?  When did I wake up in the USSR?

I've got ten more years to go before retirement.  Social Security will probably be gone by then, and my pension will probably be next to worthless.  I'll be damned if I'm going to end up broke and living with a bunch of FSA scavengers....

Posted by: Jenk at February 15, 2014 02:41 PM (e2ysZ)

35 31  Which I think should be illegal.

Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 06:37 PM (eCZwh)



They were up until the 60s when St. Kennedy made it legal with an executive order.  The all Democrat congress followed that up with an amendment to the law to make the XO legal.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 15, 2014 02:41 PM (T2V/1)

36 He didn't kill his mother. He merely tricked Scott Tennerman into luring his parents to a place where they would be trespassing and killed. So he did kill them indirectly!

Posted by: EC at February 15, 2014 02:41 PM (doBIb)

37 I love being a non union mason in Texas, and blonde, and blue eyed, and refusing to learn spanglish

Posted by: dick at February 15, 2014 02:44 PM (GrtrJ)

38 You take it from here, fapper slugger.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 15, 2014 02:44 PM (vAnfs)

39 Cartman served that filthy Ginger chilli made from his parents bodies.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 02:45 PM (6bMeY)

40 HotGas linked this article, from Chattanooga Times Free Press, Feb 11th:

http://tinyurl.com/obndzc7

Lays out the game -and the stakes- very well, I think.

Posted by: JeanQ at February 15, 2014 02:46 PM (82lr7)

41 L-shaped screw-tighteners Allen wrenches?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 02:46 PM (6bMeY)

42 4 Isn't that the same episode where Cartman killed his mother?
Posted by: EC at February 15, 2014 06:17 PM (doBIb)

He didn't kill his mother. He merely tricked Scott Tennerman into luring his parents to a place where they would be trespassing and killed. And he then proceeded to steal their dead bodies, cut them up and then put them into the chili that Scott ate.

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2014 06:41 PM (LI48c)

It turned out he did kill his father, though.  In the Mohammed episode, it came out that Scott Tenorman's father was actually his dad.

Posted by: AD at February 15, 2014 02:48 PM (E31Rf)

43 On The Waterfront, Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoJroRHvp2M

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 15, 2014 02:49 PM (vAnfs)

44 That was a good episode. I hate Stan and Kyle.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 02:49 PM (6bMeY)

45 Allen wrenches?
Named after the guy with the blog?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 15, 2014 02:50 PM (vAnfs)

46 The Allen Manufacturing Company of Hartford Connecticut.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 02:52 PM (6bMeY)

47 Union leaders say they will review all legal options and that they're "not leaving Chattanooga." USA Today 5 hrs ago Sorry I don't know how to link from my iPad

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 02:53 PM (oMKp3)

48 Dennis Williams, who is secretary-treasurer of the UAW and the union's nominee for president, said sometimes it takes more than one try to successfully organize a company. "We're not leaving Chattanooga," said Williams, who likely will be elected to a four-year term as president in June. "It took seven years to organize Ford, and I will be around for at least another five."

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 02:54 PM (oMKp3)

49 Y'know, those Koch brothers have been very good to us counterrevolutionaries. Just got my check from them today!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at February 15, 2014 02:54 PM (HsTG8)

50 http://therightscoop.com/wow-alex-trebek-for-real-like-for-really-real/

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 02:54 PM (6bMeY)

51 NBC Olympics coverage failure # 3698:

http://tinyurl.com/kqenf55


Posted by: Retread at February 15, 2014 02:56 PM (cHwk5)

52 They thought the maple jack was the U.S. flag?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 02:57 PM (6bMeY)

53 This might be a temporary victory for the forces freedom. Remember the push to do away with secret ballots in union elections? Don't get caught with your pants down in front of Reggie Love when the messiah issues an xo for his thug friends.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at February 15, 2014 02:57 PM (hpgw1)

54 All of those auto worker unions deserve to be laughed at when they lose.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 02:57 PM (z4WKX)

55 Sounds a Doggie Makes "Moo"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at February 15, 2014 02:57 PM (HsTG8)

56

35...They were up until the 60s when St. Kennedy made it legal with an executive order. The all Democrat congress followed that up with an amendment to the law to make the XO legal.
 

Posted by: Vic at February 15, 2014 06:41 PM (T2V/1)

 

---------

 

I think a President Perry would back that truck right out of there.

 

He said one time...in a town hall with Tim Scott, when Scott said:

"There aren't any term limits on government bureaucrats..."

And Perry said:  "Yet!"

 

So I don't think Perry has any love for Govt Unions.

 

Private Sector Unions are Anti-Consumer.

Government Unions are Anti-Taxpayer.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 02:58 PM (eCZwh)

57 I still blame and hate Bush for all the problems that President Obama has to fix.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at February 15, 2014 02:58 PM (BhEXv)

58 14 I remember having to join a Union when I worked at a grocery store bagging groceries. Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 15, 2014 06:25 PM (jucos) I briefly worked in a Venetian blind factory when I was younger. I would have had to join a union if I had lasted past the three-month probationary period, but I found another job before then. The ironic part is that the woman who worked next to me was a member of the John Birch Society, the only one I have ever met. I was a lefty twentysomething know-it-all, and she was twice my age and married. We used to talk politics and didn't agree on much. But she was a very nice lady and we got along fine. I still think of her. The Birchers were right all along, as it turns out.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2014 02:58 PM (sdi6R)

59 52 They thought the maple jack was the U.S. flag? Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 06:57 PM (6bMeY) Silly furrinersÂ… everyone knows the U.S. flag is the Apple Jack (cinnamon toasty, apple tasty)!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at February 15, 2014 02:59 PM (HsTG8)

60 Why unionize and again why not?  That decision depends on the situation of the workers.  If it was 1920's America in an industrial plant and all that entails then heck yeah I would want a union!  In 2014 America and in an industrial plant then no.

Why?  Because the unions won back then.  Laws and regulations were written and are enforced.  The conditions that would drive someone to unionize are no longer there; the unions won and things have changed to the point that a union is superfluous.  It is a bad thing for union leaders, but it is a good thing for workers.

Stop fighting the last war.  Henry Ford is dead; J.P. Morgan is dead; Pullman is dead.  Keeping this struggle up is to become the French General Staff in 1940, prepared once again to fight the Franco-Prussian War.  And armed to lose.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 02:59 PM (gmoEG)

61 We need an anti-tyranny candidate. The tinder is dry. He(she) needs to stand up and light the match. When?

Posted by: Caliban at February 15, 2014 02:59 PM (2ArJQ)

62 Organized labor = organized crime. This is a great piece of news that has brightened my day. To go completely OT, last week there was a "hate crime" committed at a Jr. High in my sleepy suburban Chicago hometown. The victim was an 8th grader of Iranian descent, who had his collarbone broken in two places. The attacker was a 7th grader who has been charged with a felony. But his identity has been completely embargoed by the press. Why does he deserve such protection? The Chicago Tribune has the only hint in this quote from the attacker: "Hey, Persian. Do you want to fight a black man?" Yeah, this story has already been completely buried. Doesn't fit the narrative.

Posted by: Chris M at February 15, 2014 03:00 PM (4lyMJ)

63 Grammie Winger, Is this what you meant? http://tinyurl.com/mlexbx8 I canÂ’t copy & paste on iPad either.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 03:01 PM (z4WKX)

64 Posted by: Vic at February 15, 2014 06:26 PM (T2V/1) What I would like to see, would be if Obama and his minions did what you say and bullied it through, and the people who didn't want the union held a strike against the union. My dad was a UAW member at a company that was not automobile industry. I grew up listening to him complain about the union and the way they operate. A large part of their role is to keep drunks and lazy bums from being fired. My dad had to work with drunks and lazy bums. It's not pleasant or safe. They also prioritize which of their union members are important and which are not so important. In other words, the big 3 employees matter, the rest are told to sign their contracts and get to work. Oh, and pay those double union dues to GM workers can strike. Anyone who thinks unions look out for the little guy is a fool. And they ARE corrupt.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 03:01 PM (5J5S8)

65 Reading over at Tepid Air (as I do only occasionally) I've come to realize that getting banned from there was actually a proud moment for me.

(you are judged by the qualities of the enemies you make)


There's some grade A stupid going on over at that place and I think, though it was trending that way at the time, that being subsumed by Townhall put it over the line.

I pray god that Ace wins the lottery or marries a rich woman so he doesn't have to sell the HQ to some soul sucking faux conservative commercial machine like Townhall.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at February 15, 2014 03:02 PM (LSDdO)

66 "Tears of unfathomable sadness..." Heh, heh...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 15, 2014 03:03 PM (aDwsi)

67 14 Hahahaha. I remember having to join a Union when I worked at a grocery store bagging groceries. What a waste. They took $16 dollars from me every month in 1979 dollars for Jack and Squat. If you quit the union or didn't "want" to join in the first place you wouldn't have been there long. Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 15, 2014 06:25 PM (jucos) SEIU? SEIU looooooves supermarkets. It's part of their pyramid scheme. See, you, and all the other teenagers bagging groceries, will pay dues but you won't get anywhere close to the leadership of the union, which is determined by seniority. Ponzi would be proud.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 15, 2014 03:03 PM (xSegX)

68 60 Why unionize and again why not? That decision depends on the situation of the workers. If it was 1920's America in an industrial plant and all that entails then heck yeah I would want a union! In 2014 America and in an industrial plant then no.

Why? Because the unions won back then. Laws and regulations were written and are enforced. The conditions that would drive someone to unionize are no longer there; the unions won and things have changed to the point that a union is superfluous. It is a bad thing for union leaders, but it is a good thing for workers.

Stop fighting the last war. Henry Ford is dead; J.P. Morgan is dead; Pullman is dead. Keeping this struggle up is to become the French General Staff in 1940, prepared once again to fight the Franco-Prussian War. And armed to lose.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 06:59 PM (gmoEG)

 

Yeah, its pretty much a case of "what have you done for me lately."  Unions were likely necessary back then to get things fixed faster than they otherwise would have.  But now, what do they do?  They don't exist to protect the workers.  They exist to increase their profits, but they don't actually make anything so their only way to generate their money is to raise dues or to increase their numbers.  Maybe sometime in the future unions will be necessary, but now they are little more than leeches on employees.

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2014 03:05 PM (LI48c)

69 They thought the maple jack was the U.S. flag?
And that the stars and stripes is Russia's flag when we all know it's turning into the old hammer and sickle flag at least until November and then into 2015!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 15, 2014 03:05 PM (vAnfs)

70 You can't just not join the union? That's in violation of the Thirteenth Amendment.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 03:05 PM (6bMeY)

71 26 This is why Unions want 'card check' so bad...and also want to do away with secret ballot. Â….. Unions don't want people to have a choice. And they want to be able to see who is not voting for it...so they can threaten them. Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 06:30 PM (eCZwh) Even McGovern was against "Card Check".

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 03:05 PM (5J5S8)

72 Union leaders say they will review all legal options and that they're "not leaving Chattanooga."

Of course.  Like whiney little brats, they'll kick and scream until they get their way-- or pappy takes 'em to the woodshed.

Looks like VW workers will be bullied organized until they all sign the damn cards...

Posted by: JeanQ at February 15, 2014 03:06 PM (82lr7)

73 And don't get me started on Govt Unions. Which I think should be illegal. Posted by: wheat at February 15, 2014 06:37 PM (eCZwh) Wheatie, It did it again, cut off the last of you Nic on my Mac. WasnÂ’t it JFK that allowed government unions? I could be wrong, but for some reason I think it was something he allowed. Please correct me if IÂ’m wrong.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 03:07 PM (z4WKX)

74 Much of what a union focuses on in negotiations is work rules and supervisor vs line worker disputes.

They care not one bit for productivity or morale.

It's not that they exist solely to keep drunks and the useless from being fired it's that they believe that somehow this is a benefit to their workers. (and it is but only to the drunks and the useless not to the productive)

I belonged to a union only once in my life and the one problem I had (lack of assistance with my task) the union refused to do anything about even though 2 other people quit due to the problem previous to me. (and I quit also as I couldn't move off the position and couldn't get the physical assistance the job needed)

A lot of women love unions though, I found that out.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at February 15, 2014 03:07 PM (LSDdO)

75 Martini recipe: Gin, vermouth, a splash of Union Thug tears and two drops of MSNBC pundit froth. Shake and stir then shake and stir again. Drink up.

Posted by: BubbaLou at February 15, 2014 03:07 PM (/cUUk)

76 You can't just not join the union?

Only in Right To Work states.  Otherwise, you pay up and shut up, if you want to keep your job.

Posted by: JeanQ at February 15, 2014 03:08 PM (82lr7)

77

What I don't understand...is how can Unions afford to give million$ to the Dems?

 

Isn't all that money supposed to be going into union pensions?

Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 03:08 PM (eCZwh)

78

73...WasnÂ’t it JFK that allowed government unions?

 

-------

 

Yep, Carol...Vic mentioned that too, in comment No. 35.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 03:10 PM (eCZwh)

79 In high school I worked a summer at a local Hospital. It was a union job but because of some F up they never got their dues. Funny thing is the collection letter ended with. Fraternally Yours F them have hated unions ever since.

Posted by: Dendritic at February 15, 2014 03:10 PM (8Z8Vp)

80 I never forget a wrong. All the Big Unions were all for TFGCare until they werenÂ’t. Screw them!

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 03:10 PM (z4WKX)

81 The Union Pensions are insolvent. Every few years the retired people lose another benefit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 03:11 PM (6bMeY)

82 I won't join any union that would have someone like me for a leader.

Posted by: Zombie Jimmy Hoffa Nice Day at February 15, 2014 03:11 PM (/cUUk)

83 I won't join any union that would have someone like me for a leader. Posted by: Zombie Jimmy Hoffa Nice Day

We still love you.

Posted by: Union of Cement Overcoat-Wearing Zombies Local 132 at February 15, 2014 03:13 PM (6TB1Z)

84 When wife worked at Ma Bell, she had to pay union dues, but did not join the union. At the end of the year she could fill out a form and get part of her payments back.

Posted by: Ronster at February 15, 2014 03:14 PM (puNd6)

85 70 You can't just not join the union? That's in violation of the Thirteenth Amendment. ========== When I was working in Wisconsin public schools, I was told I could choose to "not join" the union but I would still have to pay the dues same as everybody else.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 03:14 PM (oMKp3)

86 Nerdy-Girl @ 64-
There is a union for drunks and bums?

Posted by: Erowmero at February 15, 2014 03:18 PM (OONaw)

87 Actors Guild?

Posted by: Erowmero at February 15, 2014 03:19 PM (OONaw)

88 "You can't just not join the union? That's in violation of the Thirteenth Amendment."


Not quite the same thing - you have a choice not to work there.  There is a 'smidgen' of a difference between that and being told work or else.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 03:19 PM (gmoEG)

89 86 AoSHQ

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 15, 2014 03:20 PM (TGgNi)

90 Duh Erowmero,  everyone knows that is SEIU. 

Posted by: PaleRider at February 15, 2014 03:20 PM (cQZV0)

91 Time to shut everything down and do my daily maintenance.  BBT

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 15, 2014 03:20 PM (T2V/1)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 03:22 PM (gmoEG)

93 Yep, Carol...Vic mentioned that too, in comment No. 35. Posted by: wheat at February 15, 2014 07:10 PM (eCZwh) Thank you. I am cutting or rather trying to cut them & reading here.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 03:22 PM (z4WKX)

94

Growing up...I remember hearing the little jingle - "Look for the Union Label".

 

That was when we had garment factories here in the US.

 

Nowadays...it's hard to find any clothing made here.

The labels all say "Made in Taiwan" or "Made in China"...or India somewhere.

 

We can thank the Unions for that.

And the politicians who keep raising the Minimum Wage.

 

Unions and the Dems...partners in crime...serial job-killers.

Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 03:24 PM (eCZwh)

95 The union I belong to--and am very seriously considering quitting--is SEIU.  Great.  I'm not even dead yet and I'm voting for Obammunists, with my wallet at least....

Posted by: Jenk at February 15, 2014 03:24 PM (e2ysZ)

96 #86 and # 89 win the thread in the 'Question and Answer' category.

Congratulations.  Go see the Ewok for your free ampersand.

One ampersand between you.  Figure out how you want to divvy that up.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 03:24 PM (gmoEG)

97 SEIU? SEIU looooooves supermarkets. It's part of their pyramid scheme. Â…Â…. Posted by: AmishDude at February 15, 2014 07:03 PM (xSegX) My sister is a teachers' aide and has to belong to the SEIU union. During the past election the union had a meeting where they were exhorting the minions to vote for dems and for a couple of pro-public sector union proposals. Some members argued with the officials at the meeting. They were told that if they didn't vote for democrats they were idiots. That's the word that was used to their faces in a public meeting, "idiots".

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 03:26 PM (5J5S8)

98 77 What I don't understand...is how can Unions afford to give million$ to the Dems?

Isn't all that money supposed to be going into union pensions?

Few if any unions have fully funded pensions or medical plans.  The unions counted on their 'friends' in DC to kick money back to them down the line.  Now it ain't happening.

Oops.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 15, 2014 03:26 PM (XO6WW)

99 Tarps for rent for the audience during the 'Ampersand Divvy Dance'.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 03:26 PM (gmoEG)

100 They were up until the 60s when St. Kennedy made it legal with an executive order. The all Democrat congress followed that up with an amendment to the law to make the XO legal. Posted by: Vic at February 15, 2014 06:41 PM (T2V/1) Vic, I thought it was JFK, itÂ’s too bad he was killed or heÂ’d be up there with Jimmy Carter & Barry. His brother Ted was behind the 1965 or was it 66 immigration laws? & I think Teddy pushed HMOs too! I am not 100% sure on the HMOs but I know Teddy had a lot to do with it. Teddy was also in the picture with Romney, now jailed former Speaker of the House in MA, Sal DiMasi. No good ever came when a Kennedy was involved in it.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 03:26 PM (z4WKX)

101 Like the NSDAP, the NKVD, the FSLN, the COMINTERN, and all the other out-dated, obsolete, tyrannical 20th century collectivist organizations the UAW is on borrowed time. Unfortunately they are on our dime as well....never buy any product produced with these fools in the supply chain unless it is a USED product. Workers of the world unite my ass.

Posted by: IrishEd at February 15, 2014 03:28 PM (bfm04)

102 Why do I suddenly want chili?

Posted by: HR at February 15, 2014 03:28 PM (hO8IJ)

103 Pardon me boys. Is this the Chattanooga Choo Choo?

Posted by: J. "Plugs" Biden at February 15, 2014 03:28 PM (g4TxM)

104 102 Why do I suddenly want chili?

Posted by: HR at February 15, 2014 07:28 PM (hO8IJ)

 

Do you want that with pubes, human meat, or Chef's chili?

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2014 03:29 PM (LI48c)

105 102 Why do I suddenly want chili? ========== We're having tacos and margaritas. You're welcome to come. It's just about ready.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 03:30 PM (oMKp3)

106 The crying about the Dunn verdict has begun on Twitter.He wasn't found guilty of 1 st degree murder,Larry Elder has already called for Obama and Holder to step in.

Posted by: steevy at February 15, 2014 03:31 PM (zqvg6)

107 "The unions counted on their 'friends' in DC to kick money back to them down the line. Now it ain't happening.

Oops."

And that is where the Chamber of Commerce types were smarter, buying politicians on both sides of the aisle than just one side.

Over all I think it is just easier to rent the vote, politicians being just amoral lampreys all suited up nice for the cameras.  Purchase means care and feeding, renting means you can return them when you are done with them (just make sure the ashtrays are clean and that you report any nicks and dings on the body.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 03:31 PM (gmoEG)

108 #103 Track 29. Boy, you can give me a shine. Note the racist form of address.

Posted by: I denounce myself as well as all of you. at February 15, 2014 03:32 PM (/cUUk)

109 I belonged to a union only once in my life and the one problem I had (lack of assistance with my task) the union refused to do anything about even though 2 other people quit due to the problem previous to me. (and I quit also as I couldn't move off the position and couldn't get the physical assistance the job needed)Â…. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at February 15, 2014 07:07 PM (LSDdO) That's because helping out 1-3 members doesn't keep union officials in their cushy jobs. They pander to larger groups. In places like where my dad worked, drunks and lazy bums were a large group.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 03:33 PM (5J5S8)

110 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a South Park marathon on my TV (via Roku/Hulu) ALL THE TIME?

Posted by: UWP at February 15, 2014 03:35 PM (QQ5uB)

111 By the way, drunks or people hung over from drinking all night working in a factory is a major safety issue. My dad had an incident where he was working on the roof of a building when his ladder moved. The co-worker who was supposed to hold his ladder was a drunk.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 03:35 PM (5J5S8)

112 I'm hoping when I become a street mime I can join the UMW*. Management can't possibly silence all of us! (United Mime Workers)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 15, 2014 03:35 PM (g4TxM)

113 Over was under Under and Under was under Dunn.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 03:35 PM (6bMeY)

114 77 What I don't understand...is how can Unions afford to give million$ to the Dems? Isn't all that money supposed to be going into union pensions? Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 07:08 PM (eCZwh) Union dues.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 03:36 PM (5J5S8)

115 110 or this http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/episodes/

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 03:37 PM (6bMeY)

116 That's because helping out 1-3 members doesn't keep union officials in their cushy jobs. They pander to larger groups. In places like where my dad worked, drunks and lazy bums were a large group.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 07:33 PM (5J5S

 

And the most important.  Because the drunks and lazy bums can be relied on to be the most fervent union supporters and goons for them.  Power and money for the unions.  Got to keep the drunks and bums employed because their dues are how the union makes money.  They don't give a damn if they hurt the company they work for and cost them money because if the company makes a profit one year or a loss because of poor employee output, the union still gets their dues.

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2014 03:37 PM (LI48c)

117 Yes, TN is a RTW state.

Clarification on Right to Work: 

In RTW states, if you're in a union shop--you don't have to join *OR* pay dues.  (Usually, though, once a union has got a foothold, you'll be bullied until you either join or quit and/or the gung-ho members will actively work to get you fired-- illegal, but whatevs.....)

In non-RTW states, you sometimes don't have to join, meaning you don't attend/vote at union meetings, but you must still pay an "agency fee" which is usually the equivalent of regular dues.  (Again, the path of least resistance coercion is to simply join or quit, or don't apply in the first place.)

Some shops *require membership* period.  Likely you wouldn't even know of the job opening unless you're already a member, tho.

Then there's your "Beck rights" and I don't mean beer...............LOL!

Posted by: JeanQ at February 15, 2014 03:37 PM (82lr7)

118 #112 Easy for you to say.

Posted by: Anti-Mime Union person at February 15, 2014 03:37 PM (/cUUk)

119 My late BIL was a union knob gobbler until he started his own business. Surprise, it was non-union. Funny how that works.

Posted by: Ronster at February 15, 2014 03:39 PM (puNd6)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, sharing the mime manifesto at February 15, 2014 03:39 PM (g4TxM)

121 80 I never forget a wrong. All the Big Unions were all for TFGCare until they werenÂ’t. Screw them! Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 07:10 PM (z4WKX) When questioned about the problems with Obamacare, Ezekiel Emmanual, Rahm's brother and one of the Obama people that worked on the bill, said that he would like to just have all Americans on Medicare. A mean part of me wants to see unionized teachers in Michigan, who have cadillac plans, have Medicare shoved down their throats.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 03:39 PM (5J5S8)

122 I posted this earlier, but you want to read stupid? Go over to the NY Slime and read the comments. Mostly this happened, according to Times readers, because all Southerns are brain dead and love their plantation masters. I am not making this up. Why is the Times printing this stupid? The NY Slime, MSNBC with dead trees. http://tinyurl.com/nye6njm

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 03:40 PM (0FSuD)

123 But are the whores unionized? And no, I'm not speaking of the SEIU. And the pimps are the bosses so how would that work? Life can be so confusing.

Posted by: I dreamed a blew Joe Hill last night at February 15, 2014 03:42 PM (/cUUk)

124 86 Nerdy-Girl @ 64- There is a union for drunks and bums? Posted by: Erowmero at February 15, 2014 07:18 PM (OONaw) Yup, it's called the UAW. That incident from the Chrysler workers videotaped drinking in a park on their lunch break was not unusual.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 03:43 PM (5J5S8)

125 The Union? Isn't that an online newspaper spoof or something?

Posted by: Joey Biden at February 15, 2014 03:45 PM (/cUUk)

126 "The crying about the Dunn verdict has begun on Twitter.He wasn't found guilty of 1 st degree murder,Larry Elder has already called for Obama and Holder to step in. Posted by: steevy at February 15, 2014 07:31 PM (zqvg6) Watched Don Lemon commiserate with Crump, Trayvon Martin family's atty. Crump sent condolences from Martin's family to the dead teens family(These people cannot get off the stage). Finally, they interviewed Ashley Banfield who took full exception to Lemon's howling about justice...she explained in no uncertain terms that the jury evaluated the evidence presented in court, not the "TV trial" and they came up with the best verdict based on the evidence. She smacked both of them down for trying to gin up mobs a la Trayvon Martin.

Posted by: Jen at February 15, 2014 03:45 PM (o985y)

127 Join me brothers, raise your voices in silent protest.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon,United Mime Workers Local #555 at February 15, 2014 03:46 PM (g4TxM)

128 Many moons ago I worked for the phone company running a branch sales office. There a couple different groups occupying two floors in Boston high rise. Some genius decided that my group needed to move from one floor to another for no apparent reason, usual phone company stuff. So we were all set to move one Friday afternoon and the movers took all our stuff to the new location save for the computers and phones. Only our union brethren in the service side of the house could move them. Of course they never showed so after waiting for hours I told the group to pick up the phones and computers and we moved them ourselves. Naturally, the union filed a grievance against me. I went to the grievance hewing thinking I could reason with the shop steward. Yes, I was young and naive. I told him at one point "Look we both work for the same company and I was just trying to get my group back up and running". Union guy just looks at me and says "I don't work for the phone company I work for the union". End of meeting.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2014 03:46 PM (g1DWB)

129
Epic Hockey Game this morn.

And just watched Field of Dreams.  Damn I love that movie.  I think I need to go to Spring Training this year.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 15, 2014 03:47 PM (n0DEs)

130

114 77 What I don't understand...is how can Unions afford to give million$ to the Dems?

 

Isn't all that money supposed to be going into union pensions?
 

Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 07:08 PM (eCZwh)

 

 

Union dues.

 

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 07:36 PM (5J5S

 

---------

 

Right. ...That's where the money comes from.

But isn't that money supposed to be going to their pensions and benefits?

 

Or is there a part of the 'dues' that is declared to be for "political donations"?

 

If I were in a union, I would be screaming for an Audit.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 03:48 PM (eCZwh)

131 121 When questioned about the problems with Obamacare, Ezekiel Emmanual, Rahm's brother and one of the Obama people that worked on the bill, said that he would like to just have all Americans on Medicare. Posted by: nerdygirl at February 15, 2014 07:39 PM (5J5S How interesting. When Medicare was first passed in 1964(?), there were some who warned that it would lead to socialized medicine. They were dismissed as kooks and conspiracy nuts.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2014 03:48 PM (sdi6R)

132 #122 Lately I've been reading quite a few of the liberal blogs and news sites and the over-the-top tone and controversial stances are beginning to reek of desperation and a need for click-bait. I smell disaster. I really do think the mid-terms are going to be a blood bath.

Posted by: BubbaLou at February 15, 2014 03:49 PM (/cUUk)

133 I like the idea of public employees dumped on to Medicaid.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 15, 2014 03:49 PM (6bMeY)

134 I read that, Nip Sip--

They've got all the same OFA -- OWS -- SEIU -- aclkwefhdl  cookie-cutter talking points, don't they?  Even counted on all their fingers and toes how many people they need to 'flip' to change outcome NextTime.

Blame the 'pubbies, Koch bros, capitalism, blah-de-f*ing-blah ho-hum BS.....

All you can do, is yawn and lol, then try to spread the truth.

Thanks for the link.

Posted by: JeanQ at February 15, 2014 03:51 PM (82lr7)

135 #127 ......

Posted by: :-] at February 15, 2014 03:52 PM (/cUUk)

136 By the way, drunks or people hung over from drinking all night working in a factory is a major safety issue.

A drunk UAW guy at Rolls-Royce had a forklift accident that damaged a $1M-dollar jet engine (no hyperbole) and wasn't allowed to be fired.

I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to fuck up anything a tenth that size.

Posted by: HR at February 15, 2014 03:53 PM (hO8IJ)

137 7 Democracy died tonight! This is the end of America as we know it!

Grammie Winger, I remember that line from the Walker recall. On CNN, I think it was. Truly a glorious night.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at February 15, 2014 03:53 PM (T4Ab6)

138 Or is there a part of the 'dues' that is declared to be for "political donations"? If I were in a union, I would be screaming for an Audit. Posted by: wheatie at February 15, 2014 07:48 PM (eCZwh) There is, and the unions have been sued and it took years for the CA unions, which were found guilty, to repay the union members for the dues spent on elections.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 03:53 PM (0FSuD)

139 End of meeting.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2014 07:46 PM (g1DWB)


Yep.  And they wonder why they are getting such short-shrift these days.  As buzzion said 'what have you done for me lately' and that usually turns out to be 'get in your way and complicate the devil out of simple things'.


This isn't 1914 with killing paces on the assembly line, killer machinery with no safety features a quarter inch from your head, killing environments with no safety equipment or procedures.  We are not there any longer - what are you doing to make my job easier to perform - or are you just a pre-Protestant Reformation priestly class going through teh motions to secure your sinecures?


I think the answer is pretty much said.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 03:54 PM (gmoEG)

140 45 Allen wrenches? Named after the guy with the blog? Posted by: andycanuck at February 15, 2014 06:50 PM (vAnfs) Wait AllenG has a blog? When did that happen?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 03:55 PM (oFCZn)

141 In other news- US hockey team gains an advantage over its opponent by moving the goalposts. In many ways, this is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon,United Mime Workers Local #555 at February 15, 2014 03:56 PM (g4TxM)

142 "Watched Don Lemon commiserate with Crump, Trayvon Martin family's atty. Crump sent condolences from Martin's family to the dead teens family (These people cannot get off the stage)."

Far be it from me to ever sympathize with a crude rabble-rouser like Crump, who should have been disbarred for actively suborning perjury from Rachel Jenteal in the Zimmerman case, but I could not see any way that Dunn wasn't guilty on Murder One.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2014 03:57 PM (gqT4g)

143 It was either the Blaze or WZ that had the story about how 6 of the top 10 political donors in the last 20 odd years were unions. Koch brothers were number 58.

Posted by: Adam at February 15, 2014 03:58 PM (Aif/5)

144 California has a law on the books (forced in by the voters, iirc) that allows union members to refuse to allow their dues to be spent on political issues. Of course, the unions being what they are, there was an attempt by some of the big ones here in the state to sidestep that law with some tricky legal wording. The resulting lawsuit ultimately saw the unions get smacked down by the US Supreme Court.

Posted by: junior at February 15, 2014 03:59 PM (l9mhS)

145 Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 07:54 PM (gmoEG) It was really weird working in a company that was half union. They were like a company within a company with their own set of rules and allegiances. And those grievances packed some weight. A management employee could have severe job penalties if they accumulated enough of them but there was literally almost no way to get rid of a union member no matter how bad they screwed up. I always got a kick out of them calling themselves "craft workers" like they were artisans or shoe makers. Most of them would be stumped for a reply if you said good morning.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2014 04:03 PM (g1DWB)

146 If I were in a union, I would be screaming for an Audit. Posted by: wheatie And they would tell you "FYNQ!" They always have and always will support the Democrats, because of the incestuous relationship between them.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 15, 2014 04:06 PM (+1T7c)

147 ...The resulting lawsuit ultimately saw the unions get smacked down by the US Supreme Court.

1988(?)

Communication Workers of America vs. Beck

Posted by: JeanQ at February 15, 2014 04:07 PM (82lr7)

148 27 bucks an hour to start, so why do we need the union?

Posted by: redenzo at February 15, 2014 04:10 PM (WCnJW)

149 It was really weird working in a company that was half union. They were like a company within a company with their own set of rules and allegiances. Posted by: JackStraw I worked for two companies like that, one in my youth and one when I was older. Once when the UAW guys (and this was a microelectronics plant, don't get me started) went on strike, they brought in other office people to keep the plant operating.....and the yields went up. I felt sorry for the UAW guys I worked with, because they didn't want to go on strike, but the majority membership at another factory in town did. Of course, they came back from the strike with LESS than what they left with, because the company (NCR) pretty much had it with them and would just say something like "FY, take it or leave it".

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 15, 2014 04:12 PM (+1T7c)

150 Posted by: JackStraw at February 15, 2014 08:03 PM (g1DWB)

That's the problem - you start with a crusade and end with a racket.


My dad was a teacher, and at one time he was the union rep in the school.  Dad was good; he was the type that years later I would meet a student of his (we have an unusual last name) and when I said that he was my father the student would tell me how good dad was.  And when he met a student years later he could remember something about them or their class year.


And there were the slug-teachers, and he would go in as the rep and make sure everything was done correctly, but he wasn't doing anything special for them.  Procedures would be followed but nothing more for those, and he really disliked the 'slugs'.

Dad's 83 and I got to call him and mom tonight.  Back later or tomorrow.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 04:13 PM (gmoEG)

151 gramma winger,  it was Democracy that killed the Republic.

Once the Free Shit Army gets a majority, we are doomed.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 04:14 PM (V70Uh)

152 OT:

Obama tweeted:  "no spoilers for house of cards."

Here's your spoiler:  Go fuck yourself.

After that, we had ice cream.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:15 PM (x3YFz)

153 And of course, government unions are nothing more than a money laundering operation that transfers taxpayer money to the Democrat Party. 1. Taxpayers pay government workers. 2. Government workers pay union dues. 3. Government unions give campaign contributions almost exclusively to the Democrat Party. Pretty clever.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2014 04:15 PM (sdi6R)

154 bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 15, 2014 04:15 PM (V4CBV)

155  I worked for NCR upon graduation from college.  It was weird.  There was a separate health insurance and other benefits for the hourly versus the exempt. 

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 04:17 PM (V70Uh)

156 Obama tweeted: "no spoilers for house of cards." Here's your spoiler: Go fuck yourself. After that, we had ice cream. Posted by: tango nine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 08:15 PM (x3YFz) ThatÂ’s why we call him, among other things, The JEF.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 04:17 PM (z4WKX)

157 Our president watches an awful lot of tv when he isn't golfing,vacationing or fundraising.

Posted by: steevy at February 15, 2014 04:18 PM (zqvg6)

158 I am always amused when the ritual occurs every few years as the UAW tries to organize the Honda factories around Marysville Ohio. The people their just don't not vote for the UAW, they actively HATE the UAW. They've seen what four generations of UAW "Leadership" has done to the auto workforce in Ohio.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 15, 2014 04:18 PM (+1T7c)

159 ThatÂ’s why we call him, among other things, The JEF.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 08:17 PM (z4WKX)

I don't think he really understands the hate and derision we have toward him. 

I forgive him, because I have to.  That doesn't mean I like him.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:20 PM (x3YFz)

160 I worked for NCR upon graduation from college. It was weird. There was a separate health insurance and other benefits for the hourly versus the exempt. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo If I may be so impolitic, where did you work? I think we are about the same age.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 15, 2014 04:22 PM (+1T7c)

161 Wait AllenG has a blog? When did that happen? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 07:55 PM (oFCZn) I leave for a few days and this shit happens? I thought he was still in the barrel?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 04:22 PM (0FSuD)

162 If 175 million people hated me, personally, I'd be a bit upset.  Probably wouldn't sleep well.

Just sayin'

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:22 PM (x3YFz)

163 Im watching World at War on Mil Channel. They're interviewing German civilians that lived through hitler and i swear it sounds like how current US prezhas tried to sell himself and mobilise his minions. People just wont learn...

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 15, 2014 04:23 PM (Tz35j)

164 162 If 175 million people hated me, personally, I'd be a bit upset. Probably wouldn't sleep well. Just sayin' Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 08:22 PM (x3YFz) Really. Last week I posted a comment on another blog, got criticized, and was upset about it for days.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2014 04:24 PM (sdi6R)

165 I am re watching Buffy the vampire slayer from the beginning.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 15, 2014 04:24 PM (RZ8pf)

166 162 Thar's because you have a conscience and a moral compass,,qualities the JEF lacks.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 15, 2014 04:25 PM (ojnk6)

167 Posted by: tango nine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 08:20 PM (x3YFz) I do not know why my computer is cutting out letters in names when I cut & paste. WerenÂ’t you one of the people saying to use coconut oil on skin early last week? I know Sherry was & she told me brand name. Thanks.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 04:25 PM (z4WKX)

168 Hmm. A union was able to throw me off a jobsite, in a right to work state, because I wouldn't enter the apprenticeship program. It would have cost me every bit of 2K$ over the course of a year working for $12/hr. A nice chunk of which was, of course, an increase in my union dues.

Posted by: teej at February 15, 2014 04:26 PM (PNi9V)

169 NDH.. I think we did the union cars vs non union cars in another thread, but this is just sweet sweet music.

F 'em and feed 'em beans.

Kill the unions.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:26 PM (x3YFz)

170 Did I imagine this or did Merideth Viera just mention Hillary Clinton when talking abou the Olympic hockey gamr?

Posted by: WTP at February 15, 2014 04:29 PM (v5N4M)

171 "Im watching World at War on Mil Channel."

The 1974 British documentary series? An absolute classic.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2014 04:29 PM (gqT4g)

172 Did y'all see President Epic Fail immediately named the Republican Party? Presumably for telling workers they have a choice. Anyway, more hilarity from the Democrats.

Posted by: MTF at February 15, 2014 04:31 PM (F58x4)

173 WerenÂ’t you one of the people saying to use coconut oil on skin early last week? I know Sherry was & she told me brand name.

Thanks.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 08:25 PM (z4WKX)

Yup.  AoS beauty tips:  coconut oil on yer face.  Do it for a week and you'll drop 5 years of wrinkles.  And you kids watching at home?  Start now.

The stuff is magic.

We have Spectrum expeller pressed organic virgin coconut oil.  From Amazon (use Ace's linky)

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:31 PM (x3YFz)

174 Did I imagine this or did Merideth Viera just mention Hillary Clinton when talking abou the Olympic hockey gamr? Posted by: WTP NBC? QED. Of course they will name drop Hillary! for Prezzident. She' ll fix everything the wreckers and Republicans fouled up for His Nibs, Obama.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 15, 2014 04:31 PM (+1T7c)

175 A union was able to throw me off a jobsite, in a right to work state, because I wouldn't enter the apprenticeship program.

Teej--was your job part of a gov't (any level) contract? 

RTW doesn't have teeth in all situations, especially outside private sector.

Posted by: JeanQ at February 15, 2014 04:32 PM (82lr7)

176 Yeah, but I blinked. Wtf was the segway?

Posted by: WTP at February 15, 2014 04:33 PM (v5N4M)

177 170 Did I imagine this or did Merideth Viera just mention Hillary Clinton when talking abou the Olympic hockey gamr?

Posted by: WTP at February 15, 2014 08:29 PM (v5N4M)


Yep.. I just yelled at my TV. Thanks NBC for always carrying that water!  Just love how they can't help themselves...

Posted by: yip at February 15, 2014 04:34 PM (/jHWN)

178 161 Wait AllenG has a blog? When did that happen? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 07:55 PM (oFCZn) I leave for a few days and this shit happens? I thought he was still in the barrel? Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 08:22 PM (0FSuD) No one provided any evidence for the claim, however. AllenG's blog is as elusive as the Fountain of Youth.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 04:34 PM (oFCZn)

179 175 A union was able to throw me off a jobsite, in a right to work state, because I wouldn't enter the apprenticeship program.

Teej--was your job part of a gov't (any level) contract?

RTW doesn't have teeth in all situations, especially outside private sector.

Posted by: JeanQ at February 15, 2014 08:32 PM (82lr7)

Gotta love unions.  For.. being... your enemy.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:35 PM (x3YFz)

180 The stuff is magic. We have Spectrum expeller pressed organic virgin coconut oil. From Amazon (use Ace's linky) Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 08:31 PM (x3YFz) I bought the brand Sherry told me to because I found it at the same website that I buy vitamins from Vitacost. It is BarleneÂ’s. I have it and want to know if IÂ’m going to smell coconut all day? I am in my 50s and still breakout but itÂ’s usually from something I ate that had citric acid in it. Tomato sauce usually does it & I will only eat tomato sauce when I make it myself and I did make meatballs with sauce for Christmas. I used tomatoes that do not have citric acid in them & my skin broke out and I have one that has been on my face since December 27. Is it safe to use on something like this & will I smell coconut all day? Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 04:37 PM (z4WKX)

181 No one provided any evidence for the claim, however. AllenG's blog is as elusive as the Fountain of Youth. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 08:34 PM (oFCZn) True dat. Where is that asshole? You can't pick on him if he's not around.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 04:39 PM (0FSuD)

182
Is it safe to use on something like this & will I smell coconut all day?

Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 08:37 PM (z4WKX)

 

I don't think Coconut oil actually smells like coconut does it?

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2014 04:39 PM (LI48c)

183 No Jean. The union (sheet metal #2) was staffing a company the was doing the tin work at a new Mars plant. No matter. I'm back in materials & research, doing asphalt testing this time, and should be back at my old pay the end of April.

Posted by: teej at February 15, 2014 04:40 PM (pQdNP)

184 Evening all. Drunk and watching Archer is a good way to spend a Saturday evening.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 15, 2014 04:40 PM (eQJwb)

185 Is it safe to use on something like this & will I smell coconut all day?

Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 08:37 PM (z4WKX)

LOL no.  The cool thing about coconut oil is it absorbs almost immediately.  You'll see : )

Just try it.  Trust me.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:40 PM (x3YFz)

186 AoS beauty tips. 

eh... I guess there's worse things to be doing.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:42 PM (x3YFz)

187 A union was able to throw me off a jobsite, in a right to work state, because I wouldn't enter the apprenticeship program.

Teej--was your job part of a gov't (any level) contract?

RTW doesn't have teeth in all situations, especially outside private sector.

Posted by: JeanQ at February 15, 2014 08:32 PM (82lr7)



I'm back; story time:  I was at an old hydro plant in Michigan and saw the bulletin board.  Nothing had been pulled off this board just new things added.  One was a notice from about 1960 - any company that had a Federal Power Commission (now FERC) contract could not discriminate on  race, ethnicity, sex, nationality, etc. in employment.  Contracts cannot violate the law (the floor) but they may require things above that floor.  Thought it was interesting to see, like an archeological dig.



(BTW - a notice form the 1950's; since it was a national defense site - no Commies.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 04:42 PM (gmoEG)

188 So'd I miss anything, besides the sweet tears of the UAW?


Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 15, 2014 04:42 PM (4Mv1T)

189 170 Did I imagine this or did Merideth Viera just mention Hillary Clinton when talking abou the Olympic hockey gamr? ========= You did nt imagine it. She managed to work in an "overheard" comment about Hillary Clinton running for president while talking about the guy who scored the winning goal. It was artful how she managed it. She must have worked on that one all afternoon.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 04:43 PM (oMKp3)

190 >>Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 08:37 PM (z4WKX) Leave your skin damp before applying it, or anything that you want it to absorb.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 15, 2014 04:43 PM (fvY9g)

191 Far be it from me to ever sympathize with a crude rabble-rouser like Crump, who should have been disbarred for actively suborning perjury from Rachel Jenteal in the Zimmerman case, but I could not see any way that Dunn wasn't guilty on Murder One. -- Yeah, it sounded like that. The jury was hung on that count, not acquitted. Wonder if they'll try again. From Legal Insurrection: http://shar.es/QNeYM "Jury Unable to Come to Verdict on Charge of Murder of Jordan Davis The jury was unable to agree on a verdict on the first count of murder in the first degree for the shooting death of Jordan Davis. As a result, this count is “hung,” and the State is free to try Dunn again on this charge at their discretion. Detailed Charges on Which Dunn Found Guilty Among the charges of which he has been found guilty are: Three counts of attempted murder in the second degree (FL §782.051) for shooting at Kevin Thompson, Leland Brunson, and Tommy Storns, the three friends with Jordan Davis in Storns’ SUV Throwing a missile into an occupied vehicle (FL §790.19) for firing into the SUV in which the boys were riding. Finally, because these felonies were committed with the use of a firearm, Dunn is also subject to Florida’s “10-20-Life” mandatory minimum sentencing law (FL §775.087), made infamous by the case of Marissa Alexander."

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 15, 2014 04:44 PM (zDsvJ)

192 Leave your skin damp before applying it, or anything that you want it to absorb. Posted by: ontherocks at February 15, 2014 08:43 PM Thank you, On The Rocks.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 04:45 PM (z4WKX)

193 Teej, sucks that you got canned that way--glad you're back on your way up!

Posted by: JeanQ at February 15, 2014 04:45 PM (82lr7)

194 Hillary looks like she was dragged behind a Honda Civic for 50 yards, face down.

unelectable.

unless you have a fetish for those carved apple witches.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:46 PM (x3YFz)

195 LOL no. The cool thing about coconut oil is it absorbs almost immediately. You'll see : ) Just try it. Trust me. Posted by: tango nine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 08:40 PM (x3YFz) I will try it tomorrow night. Thanks to both of you.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 04:47 PM (z4WKX)

196 Just adding coconut oil to your food will improve your hair and skin. Significantly? Depends.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 15, 2014 04:48 PM (bWN4D)

197 I was looking at the Freedom index score card of our congress critters on their voting records based on the US Constitution. Unbelievably, two senators actually scored zero. I mean how do you score a zero, even Franken got a 7, Jackson-Lee got a 24. It's like you have to go out of your way to get a zero. Sadly, Only about 15 scored 90 or better and there was only one 100.

Posted by: lindafell at February 15, 2014 04:48 PM (PGO8C)

198 I will try it tomorrow night. Thanks to both of you.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 08:47 PM (z4WKX)

I eagerly await the 5 year younger you : )

magic.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:48 PM (x3YFz)

199 Thanks Jean. It was just honest work while I looked for something more suited to me. And the company managed to keep me there for three weeks and the company supervisors told me to give folks their number for references. And I learned some stuff about being a "tinner".

Posted by: teej at February 15, 2014 04:52 PM (RYVE/)

200 >> Hillary looks like she was dragged behind a Honda Civic for 50 yards, face down. They're gonna have to do a helluva make up job on Paul Giammatti when he plays her in the Benghazi flick, due to his relative beauty. Â…Â….off to work in the snow againÂ….

Posted by: ontherocks at February 15, 2014 04:52 PM (fvY9g)

201 Maybe they should try to unionize Hostess again.

Posted by: --- at February 15, 2014 04:52 PM (MMC8r)

202 Posted by: soothsayer at February 15, 2014 08:48 PM (bWN4D)



Do you recommend adding coconut oil from the tub, or do you think coconut oil capsules would do the same thing?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2014 04:52 PM (o3MSL)

203 Â…Â….off to work in the snow againÂ….

Posted by: ontherocks at February 15, 2014 08:52 PM (fvY9g)

Be careful out there.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:53 PM (x3YFz)

204 Coconut oil is 2/3 medium chain triglycerides, which depart your system without being absorbed as fat. I've been using in cooking and homemade chocolate treats for awhile, but never thought to use on my skin. I would totes groove on a natural way to reverse/delay facial aging. This last year has been hell! But, uh, no zits or blackheads???

Posted by: Justamom at February 15, 2014 04:53 PM (Sptt8)

205 Be careful out there, ontherocks.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 04:54 PM (z4WKX)

206 It's all the same, in my opinion. Caps will cost you a lot more $$. A 14oz jar from the supermarket for $8 should give you a lot of servings.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 15, 2014 04:55 PM (bWN4D)

207 "The cool thing about coconut oil is it absorbs almost immediately. You'll see : ) " ---------------- So um, T9, coconut oil wouldn't be a good addition to a fap kit? I'm asking for afriend

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 15, 2014 04:55 PM (Tz35j)

208 184 Evening all. Drunk and watching Archer is a good way to spend a Saturday evening. Posted by: DC in Towson at February 15, 2014 08:40 PM (eQJwb) *looks at clock mournfully* 35 more minutes until drinky time.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 04:56 PM (oFCZn)

209 >>Be careful out there. Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 08:53 PM (x3YFz) ...took out a pole a couple of years ago. Not a kiss that I want to repeat. My faithful Tundra has just recently forgiven me.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 15, 2014 04:57 PM (fvY9g)

210 South Park: The Stick of Truth First 15 Minutes http://youtu.be/TMh2nXPibtQ Looks like a great game.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 15, 2014 04:58 PM (b6koZ)

211
Do you recommend adding coconut oil from the tub, or do you think coconut oil capsules would do the same thing?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 15, 2014 08:52 PM (o3MSL)

We buy it in the jar.  http://tinyurl.com/kysgs5a

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 04:59 PM (x3YFz)

212 OK, who has seen the Honda ad with the founding fathers doing the slow groove thing? I like it.

Posted by: Justamom at February 15, 2014 05:00 PM (Sptt8)

213 I have been trying to decide what to eat for an hour or more. I just remembered a month or two ago I wanted the boxed version of Kraft Mac & Cheese. I just put the water on to boil. I used to eat that two or three times a week as a teenager. I had a Whole Foods version a month ago but it wasnÂ’t nearly as good. I only bought it because it was there & it was cheap. I hope that the Kraft version lives up to my memories of it.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 05:04 PM (z4WKX)

214 Be careful out there.
Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 08:53 PM (x3YFz)


Actually was a good day here in Michigan.  Had a training class at Station St. Clair Shores today.  Beautiful day for the drive - the temps started at 1 deg and worked up to a balmy 20 deg, but it was dry and as clear as a summer's day - I actually needed the sunglasses for the first time in months.  And being Saturday I-696 and the interchange with I-96 and I-275 was smooth.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 05:06 PM (gmoEG)

215 Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 09:06 PM (gmoEG)

Stay safe brother.  And remember:  it's not you you have to worry about, it's the other people driving 2,000 lb vehicles.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 05:10 PM (x3YFz)

216 Hair plugs Joe, buy a shotgun. http://tinyurl.com/cmdneqh

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:11 PM (0FSuD)

217 Well this is so cheery.  NOT.

It seems Kickstarter got breached.  Those with Kickstarter accounts, check your email.  Hackers got email, usernames, and encrypted passwords.  So being advised to change passwords.

Remember that list of easily guessed passwords, if you used one of those.  You are so toast.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 15, 2014 05:12 PM (i4AI5)

218 I hope that the Kraft version lives up to my memories of it. Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 09:04 PM (z4WKX) Microwave some bacon and throw it in the Mac. A new great memory.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:12 PM (0FSuD)

219 213 I have been trying to decide what to eat for an hour or more. I just remembered a month or two ago I wanted the boxed version of Kraft Mac & Cheese. I just put the water on to boil. I used to eat that two or three times a week as a teenager. I had a Whole Foods version a month ago but it wasnÂ’t nearly as good. I only bought it because it was there & it was cheap. I hope that the Kraft version lives up to my memories of it. Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 09:04 PM (z4WKX) Weird I bought a box and had that for lunch today. It's still pretty good but I think I didn't put in enough butter.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 05:13 PM (oFCZn)

220 Anna, Is this the explanation about the breach? https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/important-kickstarter-security-notice

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 15, 2014 05:14 PM (zDsvJ)

221 Daily reminder: We need to find some common ground with the working classes, or else they will keep voting Democrat and Hillary will get elected in 2016.

Posted by: Daily Reminder Guy at February 15, 2014 05:14 PM (6j8ke)

222 @217 I got that too. Kickstart is a crock of shit. I invested in a bike horn that was suppose to be finished a YEAR ago and the assholes are still spending their kickstart money and not making the horn. It's a con. I don't see how they could get my email password, only the kickstart password. Which i have forgotten.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:15 PM (0FSuD)

223 Obama's gotta reverse the vote with an executive order. UAW FTW, bitches.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 15, 2014 05:16 PM (tmFlQ)

224 Weird I bought a box and had that for lunch today. It's still pretty good but I think I didn't put in enough butter. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 09:13 PM (oFCZn) What a coincidence, that two of us here had or will soon eat the same thing we had as kids.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 05:17 PM (z4WKX)

225 O/T rant

When did ski jumping start being "judged"?

The German got fucked.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 05:18 PM (V70Uh)

226 Shit, now I am thinking of boiling some water for some Mac and Cheese. Assholes. That shit's not on my diet.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:18 PM (0FSuD)

227 And because Snakes on a Plane is on (not a great movie), Juliana Margulies: http://tinyurl.com/m6maqe8

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 05:19 PM (oFCZn)

228 Kickstart is a crock of shit. I invested in a bike horn that was suppose to be finished a YEAR ago and the assholes are still spending their kickstart money and not making the horn. -- Yeah, I do not understand why anyone would toss money at a project that way.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 15, 2014 05:19 PM (zDsvJ)

229 I remember "ER".  Everyone acted like Juliana Margulies was hot.

Different strokes.  I never thought that she was very pretty.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 05:21 PM (V70Uh)

230 217 Well this is so cheery. NOT.

It seems Kickstarter got breached. Those with Kickstarter accounts, check your email. Hackers got email, usernames, and encrypted passwords. So being advised to change passwords.

Remember that list of easily guessed passwords, if you used one of those. You are so toast.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 15, 2014 09:12 PM (i4AI5)

Not sure what "Kicstarter" is, but...

...this is going to so sound like "I told you so"

But you folks doing the FB/Twitter/linkedin thing?

I'm going to come out of the cave for a moment and give you a hint: 

Don't.

I say this knowing some of the.... well I won't tell you who I know and what they do.

TS/SCI keyword.

I don't say that to imply I'm important, I'm not.  Just a guy who... yeah.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 05:22 PM (x3YFz)

231 Yeah, I do not understand why anyone would toss money at a project that way. Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 15, 2014 09:19 PM (zDsvJ) For my $100 I was to get a bike horn that was to be finished almost a year ago. So far I have gotten four emails telling me about their progress and lack of progress, complete with pictures. Same pictures they sent a year ago. Con, pure and simple.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:22 PM (0FSuD)

232 Yeah I will tell my friend with his own company what a scammer he is.  Raised about $130,000 for an RPG supplment and module with Kickstarter.  Or perhaps should tell Elizabeth Ann Scarborough that she is also a fraudster using Kickstarter to defraud people so she can write her next book.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 15, 2014 05:24 PM (i4AI5)

233 Didn't some hackers just steal a metric shit ton of bitcoins from some online system?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 05:24 PM (V70Uh)

234 >>Con, pure and simple. Well, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt that some/most of them are just crappy entrepreneurs. After all, if they were competent at starting a business, they'd have real investors. I'd rather give a hobo standing next to a liquour store $100.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 15, 2014 05:25 PM (zDsvJ)

235 I'd like to know how the fuck I get facebook people on an anonymous face book page that only four people knew about. Someone told me that their friends could look at her friends and try to friend me. I never answer friend requests and still I get more every fucking week. Don't try to friend Bubba Smith, OK.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:26 PM (0FSuD)

236 Just don't put your shit on FB/twitter/linkedin.

that's all. 

just don't.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 05:26 PM (x3YFz)

237 And remember: it's not you you have to worry about, it's the other people driving 2,000 lb vehicles.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 09:10 PM (x3YFz)


It was TCT (Team Coordination Training - safety) so watching out for the others is always near first thing.


Thanks for the good wishes.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 05:26 PM (gmoEG)

238 Assholes. That shit's not on my diet. Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 09:18 PM (0FSuD) itÂ’s not like we are both ate bacon. Bacon is big here. Who talks about Mac & Cheese?

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 05:27 PM (z4WKX)

239 I have an FB account.  I have very, very few friends.  I play games.  My profile is a lie.  My picture is bugs bunny in a sport coat and tie.

I make no political comments there.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 05:28 PM (V70Uh)

240 Hey, the people who convince a bunch of strangers to give them money without providing a business plan are clearly smart. No doubt about it. But my question is, Anna, why would any individual want to toss money at a project that way? Why not go to one of the myriad of business development parks or research parks or universities with engineering schools or B-schools and "invest" your hard-earned money that way? Why give to some project that's so poorly defined and that has so little accountability? I truly don't get it.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 15, 2014 05:28 PM (zDsvJ)

241 #226 Eat shit!

Posted by: In response to someone claiming to having to eat mac n' cheese shit. at February 15, 2014 05:28 PM (/cUUk)

242 @232 Yeah tell them. If the book had any commercial appeal a publisher, I use to be one, would buy it. Obviously it doesn't. So you know these people and can get my $100 back?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:28 PM (0FSuD)

243 *looks at clock mournfully* 35 more minutes until drinky time. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 08:56 PM (oFCZn) *looks at clock now* So, whatcha having?

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 15, 2014 05:28 PM (eQJwb)

244 210 South Park: The Stick of Truth First 15 Minutes http://youtu.be/TMh2nXPibtQ Looks like a great game. Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 15, 2014 08:58 PM (b6koZ) That was awesome, and I don't even play video games.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2014 05:29 PM (sdi6R)

245 #239 Your mistake was in having a FB account to begin with.

Posted by: Smartass at February 15, 2014 05:29 PM (/cUUk)

246 Raised about $130,000 for an RPG supplment and module with Kickstarter. There is something wrong with me that the first thing my mind went to was "rocket-propelled grenade?".

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 15, 2014 05:29 PM (6DaOn)

247 My cheese and mac is asked-for.  My ham-scallopped spuds are even better.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 05:29 PM (V70Uh)

248 "UAW FTW, bitches."

What baffles me is that VW management regarded the UAW with such equanimity. Allowing really quite intrusive pro-unionization activities throughout.

Someone earlier said that the Germans must think that the UAW is like a German autoworkers' union, which it most definitely is not.

But surely VW were paying attention to the huge fiasco that was DaimlerChrysler, which lost Daimler shareholders a metric fuckton of money. And the Germans on the Daimler side certainly found out the hard way at Chrysler's U.S. plants about how the UAW are not like the unions in Der Vaterland.

What I figure this had to have been was VW management playing nice with its German unions. Those unions have to be getting very very nervous about assembly jobs leaving Germany for plants abroad. Energy costs are the elephant in the room as Germany tries to be the first in the world to run heavy industry on "renewables", which is hardly going to be fun for anyone.

So, the German union bosses at IG Metall presumably have been leaning hard on VW management to at least allow a union vote to be held Stateside. Figuring that the vote was a slam dunk win, and that the UAW would promptly push up Stateside VW worker wages to near (or parity with) German wages. Reducing at least one risk to German assembly line jobs.

And, VW management said, "Sehr gut," and let the vote roll.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2014 05:30 PM (gqT4g)

249 236 T9, wouldn't the same then hold true for posting here? Or anywhere? I'm asking because I really don't know what the difference is. Not asking for specifics, mind you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 15, 2014 05:30 PM (ojnk6)

250 You got to admit. Bacon in mac and cheese is a good addition. A little Parmesan on top?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:31 PM (0FSuD)

251 #245

Your complaint is what?  that I play games and give them nothing in return?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 05:31 PM (V70Uh)

252 245 #239 Your mistake was in having a FB account to begin with.

Posted by: Smartass at February 15, 2014 09:29 PM (/cUUk)

I could tell you how many FB accounts I have, they number in the thousands.  By design.

None of them are me.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 05:31 PM (x3YFz)

253 there's a scripting tool... aww.  It'd take weeks to explain it.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 05:33 PM (x3YFz)

254 Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 09:22 PM (0FSuD)

A horn in the shape of a Schwinn Stingray is worth waiting for.


(I kid...sorry)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 05:33 PM (gmoEG)

255 I want to wish everyone a Happy President Obama Holiday Weekend.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at February 15, 2014 05:34 PM (BhEXv)

256 Someone earlier said that the Germans must think that the UAW is like a German autoworkers' union, which it most definitely is not. The unsaid thing in this? VW is about 1/3 owned by the German government and I think the union owns a share of the company. I know union officials are board members. It's socialism baby, VW is use to feeling that dick up their ass.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:34 PM (0FSuD)

257 Here is my take on the VW union vote:

VW thinks "Our unions want us to succeed.  Our unions want us to help out the UAW.  OK, we will see what we can do."

After the vote VW says to the German union:  "We tried. "


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 05:34 PM (V70Uh)

258 253 Understood. I have a friend that used to program for an agency that shall remain nameless, and left due to what he was being asked to do....and this was in the late 80s.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 15, 2014 05:35 PM (ojnk6)

259 I admit to only quickly scrolling these threads usually- but did I not see some references to coconut oil? Are we talking lubes? And I don't mean the innards of automobiles, IYKWIMAIKYD.

Posted by: Curious scroller at February 15, 2014 05:35 PM (/cUUk)

260 So, whatcha having? Posted by: DC in Towson at February 15, 2014 09:28 PM (eQJwb) Oh shit thanks for the alarm! Was focusing on something else and slipped into actual drinking time with, get this, a drink. Beer. Taking it easy tonight.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 05:36 PM (oFCZn)

261 BTW - Mac and Cheese?  Pasta sauce is a given.  And a little extra garlic powder.  Keeps the 'sparkly ones' away.


Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 15, 2014 05:37 PM (gmoEG)

262 "Your mistake was in having a FB account to begin with."

Ding ding ding! Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

Let's all remember that every single account at Facebook (whether it contains valid personal info or not) is just one more incremental dab of monetization which puts cash in the pockets of Mark Zuckerberg.

Who is no friend to conservative political causes.

The more pairs of eyeballs which advertisers think that Facebook has, the more money Zuck makes. A prospect greeted with delight by Barack Obama, who has dinner with Zuckerberg every time he comes to the SF Bay Area, and leaves with fat checks in his trouser pocket.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2014 05:37 PM (gqT4g)

263 Nip Sip sounds like you honestly got defrauded.  I am sorry that happened.

Elizabeth Ann Scarborough has only been in the writing business since 1982 when Song of Sorcery was published.  She has been published repeated times.  And has collaborated with Anne McCaffrey. 

So for me to invest $5 in her next book was a safe bet.  And since I want to get published, a wise investment since I want to plea on Kickstarter for my book. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 15, 2014 05:37 PM (i4AI5)

264 #255 No doubt he's put out a photo with his face and personage prominently displayed to mark the occasion. Was he standing next to a lifesize Washington or Lincoln or both?

Posted by: Semi-involved scroller at February 15, 2014 05:37 PM (/cUUk)

265 OK three hour limit and over @250, everyone is free to talk about guns! I bought a Win 1894 today for son. 16 inch barrel in 44 mag with big tang, aka a Wrangler. Pretty sweet little rife. Reminds me of the Rifleman TV show.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:37 PM (0FSuD)

266 249 236 T9, wouldn't the same then hold true for posting here? Or anywhere? I'm asking because I really don't know what the difference is. Not asking for specifics, mind you. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 15, 2014 09:30 PM (ojnk6) ========= Ya, what he asked.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 05:38 PM (oMKp3)

267 Fuck the UAW.

Fuck GM
Fuck Ford
Fuch Chrysler(Fiat)

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 15, 2014 05:38 PM (0LHZx)

268 @263 Sorry have no idea who the woman is, hope you get your book published. It's not hard now. Check out self publishing at Amazon.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:40 PM (0FSuD)

269 But surely VW were paying attention to the huge fiasco that was DaimlerChrysler, which lost Daimler shareholders a metric fuckton of money. And the Germans on the Daimler side certainly found out the hard way at Chrysler's U.S. plants about how the UAW are not like the unions in Der Vaterland.

________-

Yeah but the UAW was the least of DC's problem. It was a bad match from any angle you looked at it. How the two companies could have ever thought it would work is one of life's mysteries.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 15, 2014 05:41 PM (0LHZx)

270 I never crave for mac n' cheese but today I had one of my occasional cravings for Lipton noodle soup. It's the saltiness and warmth I think. Weird. Reminds me of when I was pregnant and would crave chipped ice and lemons and the smell of gasoline and lighter fluid. The body and its needs are very mysterious.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 15, 2014 05:41 PM (/cUUk)

271 Holiday weekend, guess everyone is either snowed in or gone somewhere to have fun.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:41 PM (0FSuD)

272 >>>Beer. Taking it easy tonight. Pffft. Pussy. *pours shot of St. Elmo's Fire onto ipad*

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 15, 2014 05:41 PM (eQJwb)

273 240 Hey, the people who convince a bunch of strangers to give them money without providing a business plan are clearly smart. No doubt about it.

But my question is, Anna, why would any individual want to toss money at a project that way? Why not go to one of the myriad of business development parks or research parks or universities with engineering schools or B-schools and "invest" your hard-earned money that way? Why give to some project that's so poorly defined and that has so little accountability?

I truly don't get it.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 15, 2014 09:28 PM (zDsvJ)

 

I would say its a case of hit and miss.  You have some people that are truly crappy and are essentially bilking people out of their money for a project that will never be completed.  Others are people with actual business sense or legitimate plans and are attempting to fund things independently.  Not going through the "official channels" that might shy away from a risk or will stifle the creativity of a project.

Posted by: buzzion at February 15, 2014 05:42 PM (LI48c)

274 Got confirmation from Ace:  he's not ready to do marketing for things like T-shirts and whatnot.  And that's cool.  Guy's got his own bus to drive.  Not my place to provide an opinion.

However.  I'll be spinning up a Horde patch (unsanctioned) within 72 hours.  Morale patch, that one you wear on your left shoulder after you leave the wire.

It

Will

Rock.

$5 each (which is about 1/2 price for patches)

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 05:43 PM (x3YFz)

275 Nip Sip, I am already part of Kindle Direct Publishing.  With zero marketing and very sparse amount of page, say 6, have sold 4 copies in 2 years.  It was an experiment on my part.

But the money I want to raise on Kickstarter is to afford a good cover artist, an editor, and cover some living expenses while I madly scribble.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 15, 2014 05:44 PM (i4AI5)

276 I am sad today our annual We Hate Bush Day parade has be cancelled for tomorrow because our friends in Vermont can travel to southern NY because of the heavy snow. We will schedule the event to coincide with the next global warming awareness day event scheduled for 4 April. Thank You for your support.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at February 15, 2014 05:44 PM (BhEXv)

277 So anyone seen OSP lately? I'm not here much during the day. I haven't seen him in forever.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 15, 2014 05:44 PM (4Mv1T)

278 It's the advertisers giving money to Fuckerberg for my worthless account. 

I don't care.  I play games that amuse me.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 05:45 PM (V70Uh)

279 #271 Holiday weekend, guess everyone is either snowed in or gone somewhere to have fun. Are those the only two options? What about sheer indifference?

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 15, 2014 05:46 PM (/cUUk)

280 "Reminds me of when I was pregnant and would crave chipped ice and lemons and the smell of gasoline and lighter fluid."

Criminy. If I had to build a list of stuff that is likely to be _not good_ biochemically for a developing fetus, volatile aromatic hydrocarbons would be on there. Not so great stuff for an adult, even.

I've heard a lot of weird pregnancy cravings, but that takes the cake.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2014 05:47 PM (gqT4g)

281 T9, I'll definitely buy 4 from you

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 15, 2014 05:47 PM (Tz35j)

282 >>>I'll be spinning up a Horde patch (unsanctioned) Since they are only $5, for every one I buy, I'll kick an extra $5 to Ace. Fucker deserves it. This is an awesome community he has built.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 15, 2014 05:47 PM (eQJwb)

283 If you stay away from FB cuz it's run by libs you should also stay away from twitter, Microsoft, Oracle, Dell, GE of course, Google, Yahoo, Amazon.... Aww fuck, just don't buy a computer and never get online. Because if you do, you're supporting a liberal somewhere.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 15, 2014 05:48 PM (0LHZx)

284 #274 "Got confirmation from Ace: he's not ready to do marketing for things like T-shirts and whatnot." A pity, because I've always had a hankering for whatnots.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 15, 2014 05:48 PM (/cUUk)

285 But the money I want to raise on Kickstarter is to afford a good cover artist, an editor, and cover some living expenses while I madly scribble. Good luck, sure sounds like a hard way to go. Have you walked the houses in NYC. A good talk gets a good response. Showing up works sometimes. Let the hoard know where to invest if you do Kickstart.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:49 PM (0FSuD)

286 Don't forget Progressive Insurance and AARP.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 05:49 PM (V70Uh)

287 And Apple and 99% of Hollywood, and 99% of the music industry and 99% of fashion.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 15, 2014 05:50 PM (0LHZx)

288 286 Grampa, those out fits are dead to me forevermore.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 15, 2014 05:50 PM (ojnk6)

289 "However. I'll be spinning up a Horde patch (unsanctioned) within 72 hours. Morale patch, that one you wear on your left shoulder after you leave the wire."

Greatest patch ever in my book:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wmode/2811218035/in/photostream/

Including an original classic _Twilight Zone_ reference.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2014 05:51 PM (gqT4g)

290 What's on ONTV tonight ?

Posted by: seamrog at February 15, 2014 05:51 PM (Lx/zZ)

291 ONT ONT ONT

Posted by: Votermom at February 15, 2014 05:51 PM (GSIDW)

292 And a good % of the NFL and ABC that broadcasts the NFL and NBC that broadcasts the NFL. And never ever watch ESPN. Ever.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 15, 2014 05:51 PM (0LHZx)

293 I've promoted ace trying to mechanize shit, problem is the logo is not trademark able and IS trademarked for some shit, aka champagne. He doesn't need the hassle of that shit.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:51 PM (0FSuD)

294 #280 And yet my mutant survived. In fact, he went on to win a scholarship to Harvard and retired at the age of 39. He now spends his days fishing and boating. (I also smoked like a chimney during my pregnancy, not that I would recommend that same lifestyle to others. But then, I was 20 years old at the time and had good genes. My mother lived to 94.)

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 15, 2014 05:51 PM (/cUUk)

295 When I think of "Flo", I think of flo.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 15, 2014 05:52 PM (V70Uh)

296 Dack, I enjoyed the Kraft Mac & Cheese. I should have made 3/4 of the macaroni & used all the cheese. I couldnÂ’t eat all of it. I will do that next time. I donÂ’t like milk. I put olive oil in the water & it make the macaroni slippery enough to cling to the cheese w/o it or butter. I like English Muffins with butter and other than that donÂ’t use it.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 05:53 PM (z4WKX)

297 Robert J. Woodhead of AnimEigo raised almost $400,000 for a 1080P Blu-Ray remastering and transfer of Bubblegum Crisis 2032.  And AnimEigo raised it on Kickstarter in only a few days.

It depends upon the people, their presentation, and whether you know they have a track record.  Like anything else, buyer beware.  Lost almost $100 to a German seller on eBay myself, changed my buying habits after that but did not quit eBay.

Y-Not, yes that is the notice I got as an email today.  Just a bit of a lag.  Glad I am not fully invested in Kickstarter.  And the only money link to it is PayPal.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 15, 2014 05:53 PM (i4AI5)

298 281 T9, I'll definitely buy 4 from you

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 15, 2014 09:47 PM (Tz35j)

Well, hold fast for the design.

It's going to be Chris Kyle + Glen Doherty + Badassness + Why are you looking at me? + AoS (without Ace's consent)

Going to take a minute.

Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 05:53 PM (x3YFz)

299 >>>Posted by: Votermom at February 15, 2014 09:51 PM Made me look.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 15, 2014 05:54 PM (eQJwb)

300 So I've been bidding on some shit on ebay. I lost a bid, guy had it too high, so no one got it. I email him and offer him a reasonable price and he emails back and say yes. Problem is i think I am going to win the same item brand new in an hour, for less money, so he's fucked. Shit happens.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:54 PM (0FSuD)

301 Hey, what time do I win my $330 mill? The drawings at 11?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:55 PM (0FSuD)

302 "And Apple and 99% of Hollywood, and 99% of the music industry and 99% of fashion."

Sweet. Let me run the list here.

I don't buy Apple's overpriced flimsy fashion-accessory crap.

I gave up the Hollyweird habit over a decade ago and don't regret the loss. Wish I had done so by the earlier Nineties.

It's vanishingly rare for me to patronize any new musical artists, at least not ones that "the industry" pushes.

And I find the fashion industry and fashionistas utterly ridiculous. Fortunately, my wife manages to dress herself beautifully while similarly not giving those bitches a dime.

So I'm injuring myself how, precisely, by shunning these? Not seeing your point.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2014 05:55 PM (gqT4g)

303 Nip Sip. I had my name only and on FB & a few weeks ago I asked here how to get rid of it. I deleted all emails friends, most were older cousins, etc. I got on it & there was a place to tell them to delete the account.

Posted by: Carol at February 15, 2014 05:56 PM (z4WKX)

304 There is a drink called St. Elmo's Fire. Apparently one variation has tabasco sauce in it. Use habanero sauce instead.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 05:56 PM (oFCZn)

305 I was just trying to summon the ONT in Beetlejuice style.

Posted by: Votermom at February 15, 2014 05:56 PM (GSIDW)

306

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2014 09:51 PM (gqT4g)

Guess it depends on what you came from.


my special ops patch: 


http://greyttimes.com/?p=713

As with every patch, that means anything, there's a story behind it.

And no, I'm not going to share it with you.


Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 05:58 PM (x3YFz)

307 @303 I really don't give a shit about it, I think it's funny. I actually have two FB accounts with the same name but different email addresses. Got drunk one night and couldn't remember what email I used so I opened another account. Now half my "friends" are on one account and half are on the other and no one has a clue.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:58 PM (0FSuD)

308 "And Apple and 99% of Hollywood, and 99% of the music industry and 99% of fashion." ============ Check Check and Check

Posted by: grammie winger at February 15, 2014 05:58 PM (oMKp3)

309 I like Apple.

Posted by: Votermom at February 15, 2014 05:59 PM (GSIDW)

310 Ahh wait I see a bottle of St. Elmo's Fire bourbon 100 proof.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 15, 2014 05:59 PM (oFCZn)

311 Facebook is where I know Liberals will hear me. Whether they be relatives, friends, fans of the same sports teams, high school/college/Army acquaintances, etc.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 15, 2014 05:59 PM (ZshNr)

312 309 I like Apple. BARREL!

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 15, 2014 05:59 PM (0FSuD)

313 nood

Posted by: lindafell at February 15, 2014 06:00 PM (PGO8C)

314 "And yet my mutant survived. In fact, he went on to win a scholarship to Harvard and retired at the age of 39. He now spends his days fishing and boating. (I also smoked like a chimney during my pregnancy, not that I would recommend that same lifestyle to others. But then, I was 20 years old at the time and had good genes. My mother lived to 94.)"

Glad that worked out for the best.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 15, 2014 06:01 PM (gqT4g)

315 194 Hillary looks like she was dragged behind a Honda Civic for 50 yards, face down. unelectable. Posted by: tangonine (Commader, 3d Squirrel Brigade) at February 15, 2014 08:46 PM (x3YFz) By the time she's botoxed, made up by professional makeup artists, airbrushed, and photoshopped she'll look younger than Chelsea by the time the LIV's see her mug on their checkout counter rags Be prepared for a flood of "70 is the New 40" features from all the major MSM publications and daytime tv shows

Posted by: kbdabear at February 15, 2014 06:01 PM (aTXUx)

316 And twitter has proven useful in various people power protests around the world, so I use it for as an anti- propaganda tool.

Posted by: Votermom at February 15, 2014 06:01 PM (GSIDW)

317 This barrel's full of rotting apples.

Posted by: Votermom at February 15, 2014 06:02 PM (GSIDW)

318 Kickstarter is perfectly legitimate. It's a way for like-minded people to financially support projects that they want to see happen. Crowdfunding is an emerging strategy for people who have an idea in mind to gather funding in order to bring it to fruition. I contributed to Rand Simburg's Kickstarter project to write and publish his book on spaceflight safety. In return, I got an autographed book. I contributed to 10,000 Maniacs' effort to fund the recording and distribution of a new album via PledgeMusic. In return, I got an autographed CD. I contributed to the project to create a Tesla Museum in his old laboratory building via Indiegogo. That was a big one, because the first order of business was to raise enough money to buy the property. That effort raised over a million dollars from donors from all over the world. In return, I got a T-shirt and a couple of other things. Crowdfunding totally rocks.

Posted by: rickl at February 15, 2014 06:03 PM (sdi6R)

319 #305 Did it work? You know that summoning the dark forces is a very dangerous game? Never play with a Ouija board either. You'll risk the danger of being bored to death, shallow burblings from beyond and all that.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 15, 2014 06:05 PM (/cUUk)

320 Hillary can be beat by an electable experienced Republican who appeals to the vast moderate middle hungry for another choice. All it will take is a purchase of 30 minutes of TV time to whiteboard all the candidate's positions Mitt would have won by a landslide if he'd just done the White Board!!

Posted by: GOP consultants at February 15, 2014 06:06 PM (aTXUx)

321 St. Elmo's Firedoglake!

Posted by: Capt. Ahab, Progger blogger at February 15, 2014 06:08 PM (/cUUk)

322 "Reminds me of when I was pregnant and would crave chipped ice and lemons and the smell of gasoline and lighter fluid." Chipped ice and industrial ammonia cleaning products. Whatever it was they used in the bathrooms at the 61st at Clark AB... that. And ice.

Posted by: Synova at February 15, 2014 07:05 PM (7/PU+)

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