January 25, 2014

The Washington Post's Readers Are Already Freaking Out At Having to See the Volokh Conspiracy in Their Little Cocooned Cult
— Ace

That didn't take very long at all, now did it.

The hive reacts frantically and angrily at signs of a foreign presence.

? I open up the “Saturday Morning Headlines” email and this is at the top. Is the WashPo going gun nut? They hired what looks like a teenage law professor? “Negroes and the Gun”?? What? And what the hell is a Volokh Conspiracy?

You go to read NEWS, and you get BIZARRE. ThatÂ’s the internet for ya. Too bad itÂ’s happening at the Washington Post. Yet another sign of decadence.

Eugene Volokh answers him with far greater bonhomie than I could ever hope to manage.

Volokh tries to reassure him that the new libertarian/conservative leaning blog will be offering Washington Post readers solid facts, novel arguments, and fresh perspectives, some of them quite strong and possibly even quite convincing.

I hate to tell him this but: They know that's what you're offering to the public. That's the problem.

Thanks to @tsrblke.

[Update - Andy:] I was about to double-post the Head Ewok on this. Glad I looked.

But this needs a screenshot. Like I said on Twitter, it's like I died and woke up in schadenheaven.


Posted by: Ace at 12:19 PM | Comments (237)
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1 I can't help but point and laugh.

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at January 25, 2014 12:21 PM (PGXA8)

2 Schadenboner time!

Posted by: Insomniac at January 25, 2014 12:22 PM (UAMVq)

3 Libs don't like facts

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 25, 2014 12:22 PM (T2V/1)

4 Love it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 25, 2014 12:22 PM (GEICT)

5 Yep- beehive minds.

Posted by: backhoe at January 25, 2014 12:23 PM (ULH4o)

6 Yeah that thing we told you when we bought out your operation? The thing about just keep doing what you're doing? You need to stop what you're doing.

Posted by: WaPo at January 25, 2014 12:23 PM (oFCZn)

7 Good morning Ace! finally sleep off that bender?

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at January 25, 2014 12:25 PM (/B0pU)

8 7 Good morning Ace! finally sleep off that bender? Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at January 25, 2014 04:25 PM (/B0pU) He's wondering why he woke up with a hand grenade in the bed.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 25, 2014 12:26 PM (oFCZn)

9 How dare you expose me to a well argued point of view!!

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2014 12:27 PM (WRKdV)

10 Volokh is about to learn the lesson of dancing with the Devil.

Posted by: brian at January 25, 2014 12:27 PM (6pDWb)

11 Cults don't like opinions that come from outside the cult. Kinda by definition.

Posted by: eman at January 25, 2014 12:28 PM (AO9UG)

12 9 How dare you expose me to a well argued point of view!! Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2014 04:27 PM (WRKdV) DON'T YOU DARE PUT YOUR TRUTH IN ME!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 25, 2014 12:28 PM (oFCZn)

13 Facts are not our friends.

Posted by: Debbie Wasserman Schultz at January 25, 2014 12:28 PM (Pr6hk)

14 Krugtron he Invincible is all butthurt over the WaPo saying no to Ezra Juicebox's offer to continue his 28 year old worldly wisdom there for a paltry 10 million This should have him throwing his cats at people

Posted by: kbdabear at January 25, 2014 12:29 PM (aTXUx)

15 That's a nice blog you have there.  It would be a shame if something happened to it.

Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at January 25, 2014 12:29 PM (Pr6hk)

16 So nice to see. What this needs is the Krugtard's informed opinion as a counterweight.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at January 25, 2014 12:29 PM (R5qgD)

17 Sorry to go OT so early, but HAHAHAHAHAHA http://t.co/ULcySomUP5 "Vote for Nipples, Not Cripples"

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 25, 2014 12:29 PM (GEICT)

18 Volokh is about to learn the lesson of dancing with the Devil. Posted by: brian at January 25, 2014 04:27 PM (6pDWb) Eh? I don't think so. Volokh had a successful blog before WaPo, if WaPo dicks him around he'll have a successful blog after them. As he pointed out, he has a day job, he doesn't need WaPo's approval.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 25, 2014 12:29 PM (GaqMa)

19
Alternate post title:

Who Knew: Mushrooms Like Being Kept In The Dark And Fed Bullshit

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 25, 2014 12:29 PM (gYIst)

20 Tighter language and facts are not helpful to our positions.

Posted by: Wendy Davis at January 25, 2014 12:30 PM (Pr6hk)

21 An insight into why the popular and political culture in this country is....busted! Volokh is hardly some right-wing knuckle dragging neanderthal man, but there you go. The apparatchnik readers of the WP have spoken. The tens of thousands of them, from the beltway, and beyon that work in the labyrinths of the government. With their faux intellegentsia veneer. And this, is why things will burn someday.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 25, 2014 12:30 PM (+1T7c)

22 lolz hate filled liberals gonna hate

Posted by: oejay44cday at January 25, 2014 12:31 PM (iHJAJ)

23 I can't help laughing at overheard snippets of NPR broadcasts. The looks you get! Denier!

Posted by: eman at January 25, 2014 12:31 PM (AO9UG)

24 And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddlesome bloggers

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at January 25, 2014 12:32 PM (Pr6hk)

25 But how sharp are Mr. Volokh's creases?

Posted by: David Brooks at January 25, 2014 12:33 PM (Pr6hk)

26 I stopped reading the Post when I saw their "portmanteau" contest consisted of words made up to denigrate tea partiers or conservatives. Every fucking winner of the contest did this. So, you whiny little shit stains, welcome to a different viewpoint that requires some thinking instead of tapping into the hive mind. I may actually subscribe to the damn thing now.

Posted by: moki at January 25, 2014 12:33 PM (EvHC8)

Posted by: Mary at January 25, 2014 12:34 PM (1UCCk)

28 HOW could the Post allow facts to interfere with their reporting

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 25, 2014 12:34 PM (Pr6hk)

29 High praise for Eugene Volokh and his efforts.  It's just seems futile to try to improve the Washington Compost.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 25, 2014 12:34 PM (kxSZr)

30 oh look, Anthony "Dick" Weiner has spoken. The penis-ultimate of trivial has been politicians.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 25, 2014 12:34 PM (+1T7c)

31 I do love that the guy did 0 research before posting. Didn't even bother to look at Volokh's biographical sketch right above his comment. If he had he'd have seen Volokh is well accomplished and respected. And hardly "hired" by the Post.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 25, 2014 12:35 PM (GaqMa)

32 How did Volokh trick them into thinking that he wasn't really a conservative, since that is usually what WaPo does when it goes and hires a "conservative"

Posted by: buzzion at January 25, 2014 12:35 PM (LI48c)

33 Favorite line from The Godfather:  "Michael, why are the drapes open?"  Hi-LAR-i-ous.  Fucking two-timing whore.  What?

Posted by: Captain-Select Crunch at January 25, 2014 12:35 PM (yhJhK)

34 The bacterium are freaking you mean, penicillin has been introduced to the diseased body.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 25, 2014 12:35 PM (v0Hui)

35 The results of Mr. Volokh's Grand Jury are in, now we must conviene it.

Posted by: Eric Holder at January 25, 2014 12:36 PM (Pr6hk)

36 Are you of the Body?

Posted by: eman at January 25, 2014 12:37 PM (AO9UG)

37 Lunatic right-wing conspiracy theories lead to racist hate, and definitely promote disregard for our wise President and his policies to correct America's faults. Such conspiracy theories have no place in respectable establishment journalism. Correctly thinking citizens should get their news from approved sources and say no to rumors.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 25, 2014 12:38 PM (1UCCk)

38
Don't confuse me with the gun facts asshole!

Posted by: Melissa Harris Perry at January 25, 2014 12:38 PM (pJF+c)

39 Comrades, if only Bezos knew!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 25, 2014 12:38 PM (o3MSL)

40 @21 Ribald Conservative riding Orca "And this, is why things will burn someday." Faster please. Sales of guns and ammo were higher in 2013, breaking another record, than the previous year. Burn baby, burn.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at January 25, 2014 12:38 PM (MN1rY)

41 Posted by: buzzion at January 25, 2014 04:35 PM (LI48c) Well I'm not sure he *is* a conservative. He strikes me as a libertarian, maybe an old school classic liberal. He's very hard to stick into a box.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 25, 2014 12:39 PM (GaqMa)

42 The average WaPo reader is not amused.
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/selection-du-weekend-72-52.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 25, 2014 12:39 PM (v0Hui)

43 He's very hard to stick into a box. Take the emu out first.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 25, 2014 12:40 PM (TiocM)

44 If you take the emu out of the box, you will never get to Step 2.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 25, 2014 12:42 PM (v0Hui)

45 "They hired what looks like a teenage law professor?"

Of course, Volokh is an actual law professor.

Unlike their beloved SCOAMF, the part-time law lecturer who was never offered a tenure-track position by the University of Chicago because of his complete lack of "scholarly output".

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2014 12:42 PM (gqT4g)

46 The average WaPo reader is not amused.

Riiiiiiiippppppppppp   Thudddddd   **sound of wallet opening and hitting table**

Like I care.


Posted by: Jeff Bezos at January 25, 2014 12:44 PM (6TB1Z)

47 OMG, diversity of thought!!111!
Must reject! Must ignore!
La la la la I can't see or hear you!!

Posted by: WashPost Reader at January 25, 2014 12:45 PM (POpqt)

48 Those gun nuts are good for you. They are chock full of irony and seven essential vitamins.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 25, 2014 12:45 PM (g4TxM)

49 I read the wapo's comments, ha ha nice to see the libs all in a tizzy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 25, 2014 12:46 PM (HVff2)

50 Those gun nuts are good for you. They are chock full of irony and seven essential vitamins. They can lick my gun nuts.

Posted by: EC at January 25, 2014 12:46 PM (doBIb)

51 I may actually subscribe to the damn thing now.

Not a prayer.  At least not until the entire current staff is set on fire as an object lesson in the penalties for their kind of lying malfeasance. 

(I subscribed for almost 30 years.)

Posted by: pep at January 25, 2014 12:46 PM (6TB1Z)

52 >>"They hired what looks like a teenage law professor?"
Of course, Volokh is an actual law professor.


Whereas young, inexperienced Ezra Klein has accomplished what, exactly?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2014 12:46 PM (POpqt)

53 Liberal diversity of thought:
"Nixon was the FUCKING WORST PRESIDENT EVER."
"No way, dude, BUSH was the fucking worst President ever."
"Dude, you're like WAY right on that one.  What was I fucking thinking?  FUCK.  ME."

Posted by: Captain-Select Crunch at January 25, 2014 12:47 PM (yhJhK)

54 Whereas young, inexperienced Ezra Klein has accomplished what, exactly?

I suspect his accomplishments do not include successful completion of the course "Negotiate to Win".

Posted by: pep at January 25, 2014 12:48 PM (6TB1Z)

55 Whereas young, inexperienced Ezra Klein has accomplished what, exactly? Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2014 04:46 PM (POpqt) Klein is clearly a very accomplished money grabber, having been paid by WaPo all these years for less than nothing. However, he Peter Principled himself with that last move.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 25, 2014 12:48 PM (GaqMa)

56 41

Well I'm not sure he *is* a conservative.

He strikes me as a libertarian, maybe an old school classic liberal.

He's very hard to stick into a box.


Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 25, 2014 04:39 PM (GaqMa)


To the modern day Democrat, anyone to the right of Hugo Chavez is an extreme Reich-winger.  So, close enough.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at January 25, 2014 12:48 PM (M5T54)

57 Eugene Volokh answers him with far greater bonhomie than I could ever hope to manage. Is Eugene Volokh familiar with the phrase, "But first you will blow me"?

Posted by: EC at January 25, 2014 12:49 PM (doBIb)

58 The left really isn't interested in reality.They think we are uninformed nutbars,all the news we get is fake.They truly believe that.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2014 12:49 PM (zqvg6)

59 As far as Volokh's site,I go there sometimes but it is a little too libertarian for me.Like when they did a piece on how beastiality didn't really hurt anybody.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2014 12:50 PM (zqvg6)

60 They have to do a lot more than this to de-louse that paper.
As a former subscriber, one of the final straws for me was a Father's Day Sunday magazine cover story was about sperm donor "fathers." Every section is Left, there's nothing that isn't tainted.

It's a great start, though. Bezos might actually want to make money.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2014 12:51 PM (POpqt)

61 Is Eugene Volokh familiar with the phrase, "But first you will blow me"? Posted by: EC at January 25, 2014 04:49 PM (doBIb) Volokh gives the long form of that response. Look at where he takes another commenter to task for calling a guys English wrong (when it wasn't really.) Volokh loves to respond to random commenters, the WaPo readers will not like that.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 25, 2014 12:51 PM (GaqMa)

62 We have both kinds of opinions-left and far left.

Posted by: Bob's Progressive Bunker at January 25, 2014 12:51 PM (cL+9V)

63 Haha Bezos! You coulda had me for only $10 million sucka!!!

Posted by: Ezra Klein at January 25, 2014 12:51 PM (Aif/5)

64 beastiality didn't really hurt anybody. ---------- Hmm I may like this guy after all.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 25, 2014 12:53 PM (Aif/5)

65 Volokh gives the long form of that response. Look at where he takes another commenter to task for calling a guys English wrong (when it wasn't really.) Volokh loves to respond to random commenters, the WaPo readers will not like that. Volokh needs to swing b the HQ and pick up some rejoinders. MWR or AtC could give him a few for free. Rejoinders, I mean.

Posted by: EC at January 25, 2014 12:53 PM (doBIb)

66 How did Volokh trick them into thinking that he wasn't really a conservative, since that is usually what WaPo does when it goes and hires a "conservative"

Posted by: buzzion at January 25, 2014 04:35 PM (LI48c)



They asked Kathleen Parker and Jennifer Rubin if they'd ever heard of him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 25, 2014 12:54 PM (WRKdV)

67 Okay EC since you are a gun nut...
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/selection-du-weekend-72-25.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 25, 2014 12:54 PM (v0Hui)

68 Okay EC since you are a gun nut... Early crew-served weapon?

Posted by: EC at January 25, 2014 12:55 PM (doBIb)

69 62 We have both kinds of opinions-left and far left.

Posted by: Bob's Progressive Bunker at January 25, 2014 04:51 PM (cL+9V)

 

Liberals diversity of thought is smaller than the range of music played at Bob's Country Bunker.

Posted by: buzzion at January 25, 2014 12:55 PM (LI48c)

70 Liberals diversity of thought is smaller than the range of music played at Bob's Country Bunker. ---------------- Country and Western?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 25, 2014 12:57 PM (aDwsi)

71 Sorry, fellow morons, but I gotta tellya that Eugene brings it in a mighty powerful way, via logic, codified law, and common sense. There are people who disagree, but that is why we have courts. Please check this "new guy" out. You won't be disappointed.

Posted by: Dirty Old Man at January 25, 2014 12:57 PM (crDw7)

72 If this is what the future of the Bezosville Daily Bugle looks like, then I'm all for it.

Posted by: JEM at January 25, 2014 12:57 PM (o+SC1)

73 I took my wife to a restaurant. The waiter, for some reason, took my order first. "I'll have the rump steak, rare, please." He said, "Aren't you worried about the mad cow?" "Nah, she can order for herself." And then the fight started... My wife and I were sitting at a table at her high school reunion, and she kept staring at a drunken man swigging his drink as he sat alone at a nearby table. I asked her, "Do you know him?" "Yes", she sighed, "He's my old boyfriend. I understand he took to drinking right after we split up those many years ago, and I hear he hasn't been sober since." "My God!" I said, "Who would think a person could go on celebrating that long?" And then the fight started... My wife sat down next to me as I was flipping channels. She asked, "What's on TV?" I said, "Dust." And then the fight started... My wife was hinting about what she wanted for our upcoming anniversary. She said, "I want something shiny that goes from 0 to 150 in about 3 seconds." I bought her a bathroom scale. And then the fight started...... My wife was standing nude, looking in the bedroom mirror. She was not happy with what she saw and said to me, "I feel horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you to pay me a compliment.' I replied, "Your eyesight's damn near perfect." And then the fight started........

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at January 25, 2014 12:58 PM (MN1rY)

74 Colonial forts were often armed with wall guns.  Think huge fowlers on pivots. Cheaper and lighter than cannon artillery.

Posted by: mrp at January 25, 2014 12:58 PM (JBggj)

75 Posted by: EC at January 25, 2014 04:53 PM (doBIb) Speaking of Moron rejoinders, did you see Cooke go off on Kincannon? OMG. I'm pretty sure it moved while watching that unfold.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 25, 2014 12:58 PM (GEICT)

76 EC, those rabbits are pretty huge I guess.  And this was before Global Warming and atomic weapons.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 25, 2014 12:59 PM (v0Hui)

77 Hahahahahaha *breath* hahahahahahaha

Posted by: Andy at January 25, 2014 12:59 PM (vGQV1)

78 Eugene Volokh is a libertarian (with a little "L")

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 25, 2014 01:00 PM (T2V/1)

79 So when is AoS going to represented in the WP?

Posted by: Radar at January 25, 2014 01:00 PM (KzmOC)

80 @68 Earlier form of duck "hunting."
Shoot once, net the rest of the day.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 25, 2014 01:00 PM (xq1UY)

81 Speaking of Moron rejoinders, did you see Cooke go off on Kincannon? Was it the "put them in camps" stuff?

Posted by: EC at January 25, 2014 01:01 PM (doBIb)

82 I nominate AlextheChick as the AoS HQ writer for the WaPo.

Their printing presses will melt printing her first column.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 25, 2014 01:01 PM (v0Hui)

83 I think I'll put a patent application together for a quadrotor with a built-in printer that can print a freshly updated newspaper and drop it on your doorstep as it flies down your street.

Posted by: JEM at January 25, 2014 01:01 PM (o+SC1)

84 Getting ready for "year of bullying" road trip.... someone needs to become the tour heckler ???

Posted by: Qmark at January 25, 2014 01:01 PM (K0QYo)

85 So when is AoS going to represented in the WP? Posted by: Radar

Pigs, airtime, my ass.  Some assembly required.

Posted by: pep at January 25, 2014 01:02 PM (6TB1Z)

86 Buckeye, those were pretty good!

Posted by: EC at January 25, 2014 01:02 PM (doBIb)

87 JEM.  Just let the quadcoptor search for unsecured wireless networks, query for printer, and then send article to printer.

And don't forget to put the Google and Amazon logos on the quadcoptor.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 25, 2014 01:03 PM (v0Hui)

88 "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas." -- Stalin Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 25, 2014 01:04 PM (+VxsD)

89 Was it the "put them in camps" stuff? Posted by: EC at January 25, 2014 05:01 PM (doBIb) I don't think so. It was when Cooke called him a "mendacious little shit with a messiah complex". And that was only part of it. Cooke went back later and deleted the tweets where he really went off. NDH saved a few, I think.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 25, 2014 01:04 PM (GEICT)

90 Neat YouTube video of a "wall gun" in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEyHZUW9LFE

Posted by: mrp at January 25, 2014 01:04 PM (JBggj)

91 82 I nominate AlextheChick as the AoS HQ writer for the WaPo. Their printing presses will melt printing her first column. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 25, 2014 05:01 PM (v0Hui) With a "Special Introduction" by Empire of Jeff. What does matter look like when it connects with anti-matter?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 25, 2014 01:04 PM (oFCZn)

92 Whereas young, inexperienced Ezra Klein has accomplished what, exactly?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2014 04:46 PM

He knows how to ask mommy to get him a job at the Post in the first place

Seems to be a special talent in media and entertainment circles

Posted by: kbdabear at January 25, 2014 01:05 PM (aTXUx)

93 It's discomforting to them to see a brilliant mind that is not easily pigeon-holed work against their "interests" by protecting speech.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 25, 2014 01:05 PM (TE35l)

94 Better Than Ezra.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2014 01:06 PM (g1DWB)

95 Meanwhile these are nuts with guns
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/selection-du-weekend-72-20.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 25, 2014 01:06 PM (v0Hui)

96 Seems to be a special talent in media and entertainment circles Posted by: kbdabear ------------------ Politics too!

Posted by: Kennedys, Jacksons. Clintons, Bushes, etc., etc. at January 25, 2014 01:07 PM (aDwsi)

97 "There is a great vast middle . . . " waiting to be persuaded.

Uh. no. There isn't. There is a great vast sea of silent people who have an opinion but prefer to not have to take a public position. An ocean of people who don't want any trouble, who don't want to stand on principle, who don't want to be targets ,who don't want to have to defend a position. People who just want to get along, and be friends. Who want to take the easy way out.

They're not persuadable either.

Posted by: yukin Flambeau at January 25, 2014 01:08 PM (94sDB)

98 >>I nominate AlextheChick as the AoS HQ writer for the WaPo.

She would make their "She the People" feminist bloggers run screaming from the building.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2014 01:09 PM (POpqt)

99 She would make their "She the People" feminist bloggers run screaming from the building.

With their dresses over their heads. 


The women, too.

Posted by: pep at January 25, 2014 01:10 PM (6TB1Z)

100 >>Better Than Ezra.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2014 05:06 PM (g1DWB)

 I saw Better Than Ezra open for the Gin Blossoms at Hershey Park in 93.
(heh - really)

Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2014 01:11 PM (POpqt)

101

.....prefer to not have to take a public position.


Posted by: yukin Flambeau at January 25, 2014 05:08 PM (94sDB)


Are you referring to citizens who are so acutely paranoid of IRS audit they refuse to take a public position?

Absolutely no documented evidence of the IRS violating any citizens rights. 

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 25, 2014 01:11 PM (pJF+c)

102

channeling Dr.McCoy on a very bad trip


VOLOKH IS NOT OF THE BODY!!!!

Posted by: WashPost Archons at January 25, 2014 01:12 PM (+jkvy)

103 "WaPo running Volokh Op Eds" ... alternate title: "WaPo, fighting hard not to become the next Newsweek, turns to Journalism ..."

Posted by: Arbalest at January 25, 2014 01:12 PM (FlRtG)

104 The key word is 'documented'

Posted by: Eric Holder at January 25, 2014 01:12 PM (Pr6hk)

105 Absolutely no documented evidence of the IRS violating any citizens rights. Posted by: Doctor Fish ------------------- That's what I said!...., well..., didn't say, exactly.

Posted by: Lois Lerner at January 25, 2014 01:13 PM (aDwsi)

106 "WaPo, fighting hard not to become the next Newsweek, turns to Journalism ..."

My guess is that Bezos had a come to Jesus meeting with WaPo's top brass and gave them an ultimatum.  "This better become a newspaper again, tout suite, and that means an end to the self-indulgence of the last 40 years, or you guys are going to be looking for jobs in either the food service or housekeeping industries."

Posted by: pep at January 25, 2014 01:15 PM (6TB1Z)

107 101 Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 25, 2014 05:11 PM (pJF+c)

Yeah?

http://tinyurl.com/bt3k86z

Al-Wa-Po IRS Leaked Confidential Data to Pro Publica

uh... that's a violation of rights.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 25, 2014 01:16 PM (TE35l)

108 @86 EC Thanks. We all need a laugh these days. .

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at January 25, 2014 01:16 PM (MN1rY)

109 105 Posted by: Lois Lerner at January 25, 2014 05:13 PM (aDwsi)

How's the beach sweetie?

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 25, 2014 01:17 PM (TE35l)

110
Never place your trust in either the WaPo or NYT.  They're both criminal enterprises, and I know a criminal enterprise when I see one.

Posted by: Bernie Madoff at January 25, 2014 01:17 PM (pJF+c)

111
I predict that Jeff Bezos will suffer a major medical malady outside the continental limits, and will be medically evacuated by air to America for treatment.  I also have a vision for giant turtles and icky lizards.

Posted by: Miss Cleo, Psychic Friends Network at January 25, 2014 01:21 PM (pJF+c)

112 @87 - I'm looking forward to the day when Amazon Home lets you pick the floorplan, then their drone slings 3600sf of fully-assembled two-story detached with Craftsman details out to your lot. It could be quite a neighborhood event.

Posted by: JEM at January 25, 2014 01:24 PM (o+SC1)

113
Chucky Johnson, waiting anxiously for his call from WaPo, posts the following Open Thread:

“Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and post an open thread.”

— Stinky Mencken


The wit, it burns.

Posted by: Guy Fleegman, aka Crewman #6 at January 25, 2014 01:26 PM (IDlFm)

114 Been reading the Volokh Conspiracy for years.  Volokh's specialty is the first amendment and he is pretty much an absolutist.  More supportive of state action regarding free exercise clause though.  Orin Kerr is a top notch 4th Amendment scholar especially in regards to technology and 4th Amendment.  Dale Carpenter focuses mainly on same sex marriage.  Todd Zwicki seems to focus on business issues and David Bernstein is the resident 2nd Amendment scholar.  They also invite guests to post on their newest research and take responses from their commenters.   

Posted by: wg at January 25, 2014 01:26 PM (liwev)

115 >>>Uh. no. There isn't. There is a great vast sea of silent people who have an opinion but prefer to not have to take a public position. Disagree strongly. There are three separate people in my life, including my wife, that were reflexively moderately anti-gun, simply because they had never been exposed to the gun culture, shooters or shooting in general. The only knowledge they had about guns was the murders and mayhem on the evening news. Just by exposing them to guns, taking them shooting and showing by example that guns are not scary murder-bots, all three are now gun owners.

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 25, 2014 01:28 PM (eQJwb)

116 heh. I can hear heads exploding from 3000 miles away. And, when I said heads, you know we're really talking @$$es, here. Fun stuff.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 25, 2014 01:29 PM (IXrOn)

117 guns are the gateway drug to rightwingerism. They were for me

Posted by: the snarkster at January 25, 2014 01:29 PM (jsmDz)

118 Posted by: DC in Towson at January 25, 2014 05:28 PM (eQJwb) Indeed. The wife was moderately pro-gun control. Took her to the range, shooting isn't for her, but she looked around at all the people acting very orderly and safe and thought "these aren't bad people."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 25, 2014 01:30 PM (GaqMa)

119 Just by exposing them to guns, taking them shooting and showing by example that guns are not scary murder-bots, all three are now gun owners. Posted by: DC in Towson at January 25, 2014 05:28 PM (eQJwb) good for you, winning arguments one person at a time. An indoor range is starting a monthly IDPA match, I want to go check it out

Posted by: the snarkster at January 25, 2014 01:32 PM (jsmDz)

120 So... how long until the Blogfather™ takes the Boeing?

Posted by: rosignol at January 25, 2014 01:32 PM (AYFF7)

121 "you guys are going to be looking for jobs in either the food service or housekeeping industries"

I guess Bezos expects results.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 25, 2014 01:35 PM (30eLQ)

122 DC, tsr

Thank you.
Gives me hope.

(but words alone are not enough. Takes positive actions, demonstrations. something more than a blog post. or three hours talking on the radio.)

Posted by: yukin Flambeau at January 25, 2014 01:35 PM (94sDB)

123 Better Than Ezra.

There are people in the happy-home writing scribbles with finger paint who are better than Ezra

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 25, 2014 01:37 PM (30eLQ)

124 I think I'll put a patent application together for a quadrotor with a built-in printer that can print a freshly updated newspaper and drop it on your doorstep as it flies down your street.

Posted by: JEM at January 25, 2014 05:01 PM (o+SC1)


If you can build it so it throws the newspaper into a freshly-manured flower bed, it will be a big seller.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 25, 2014 01:41 PM (pFqpP)

125 13 Facts are not our friends.

Facts are food, not friends.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 25, 2014 01:43 PM (U82Km)

126 I don't think the Volokh Conspiracy will be associated with WaPo for long. They cannot abide it. And Volokh is certainly not conservative. But not enough orthodox liberal repeating of the talking points. VC is not of the tribe, it must be cast out. I give it six weeks at the outside.

Posted by: blaster at January 25, 2014 01:43 PM (4+AaH)

127 Just by exposing them to guns, taking them shooting and showing by example that guns are not scary murder-bots, all three are now gun owners. ------- I started with Junior NRA, at age 8. In short order, the allocated 5 rounds of .22 per session, were not nearly enough. BTW, we used surplus Springfields. I ceaselessly harassed my dad, and for Christmas when I was 10, received a Remington Model 110. I was delirious with joy, and, of course, we went shooting on Christmas day. He did not allow me possession of the bolt for another two years, but left it to me to see that the rifle was kept meticulously clean.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 25, 2014 01:44 PM (aDwsi)

128 Watch me play this here jazz guitar whilst riding my Lady Schwinn!

Posted by: Caharles Jonson at January 25, 2014 01:44 PM (Dwehj)

129 Aren't WaPo readers pretty cocooned? The newspaper reading demo is pretty bad too. White over 55yo Democrats, or at least blue staters. someone maybe figgured out the might look for new readers

Posted by: the snarkster at January 25, 2014 01:46 PM (jsmDz)

130 I give it six weeks at the outside. Yeah, the only wildcard is, whatÂ’s Jeff Bezos up to? I mean, why did the Post go with this deal in the first place? There are probably a handful of Orin Kerr posts they might like (heÂ’s generally on the right side, but he loves playing word games on occasion), but beyond that this is not something designed to play to their base.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 25, 2014 01:46 PM (CeNUw)

131 I bid you Moo Moo!

Posted by: Caharles Jonson at January 25, 2014 01:49 PM (Dwehj)

132 >>>I started with Junior NRA, at age 8. That's awesome. My little girl, if she shows any interest, will probably get a pellet rifle around that age, and move up to a .22 by 10 or so. I like the idea of holding onto the bolt - give her the responsibility of care without the worry.

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 25, 2014 01:53 PM (eQJwb)

133 My father bought me a 1911 copy in a co2 pellet model when I was 6 years old and a wingmaster .410 when I was 9 years old and a compound bow when I was 11 years old and a 450 Yamaha Enduro motorcycle when I was 17 years old for my HS graduation. Don't know if he was trying to make me a manly man or kill me. Either way I didn't mind.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 25, 2014 01:55 PM (cDwCa)

134 131 Jharles Chonson, Speaking of Moo Moos how's Irish Ho Rose?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2014 01:55 PM (TE35l)

135 Hardly even news.  Jennifer Rubin is considered to be establishment/moderate if not RINO by most conservatives, but the hoi polloi at WaPo treated her as if she were Pat Buchanan's reactionary cousin. 

Opposing views are difficult to tolerate in leftist enclaves.  They cannot answer them directly until the official spin line comes in - and now with Ezra Klein gone, there is one fewer spinner at the loom.  So the spittle flies, the heads explode, the spirit of tolerance ignites into flames as they attempt to block out unfiltered truths from their carefully constructed mindsets.

Posted by: Adjoran at January 25, 2014 01:59 PM (473jB)

136 @130: their base is neither growing nor profitable. So of course Bezos will want to break them outta the liberal ghetto.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 25, 2014 01:59 PM (102Hx)

137 Radley Balko also has a new blog area at the WaPo. I'd say he leans libertarian as well; his specialty is writing about police abuse of power and police militarization.
 
Back in the days when I subscribed to newspapers (30+ years), I made it a point to read all the opinion section. Liberal columnists such as Molly Ivins and Donald Kaul made me want to punch their noses in on a regular basis. But for several years now I get all my news from the Net.
 
I think that we here are also in a sort of echo chamber of sorts, though there is a lot of exposure to liberal ideas here just for purposes of deconstructing it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2014 01:59 PM (cHZB7)

138 I think that we here are also in a sort of echo chamber of sorts, though there is a lot of exposure to liberal ideas here just for purposes of deconstructing it.

RINO

Posted by: pep at January 25, 2014 02:02 PM (6TB1Z)

139 If you go with a 10/22 for the kids -- they have a single shot magazine out there.  Gotta look a bit, but its out there.

Posted by: Jean at January 25, 2014 02:04 PM (4JkHl)

140 "Speaking of Moron rejoinders, did you see Cooke go off on Kincannon?" Do you have a link? I would like to read it.

Posted by: Decaf at January 25, 2014 02:05 PM (op2WR)

141 I think that we here are also in a sort of echo chamber of sorts, though there is a lot of exposure to liberal ideas here just for purposes of deconstructing it.
Posted by: GnuBreed

Must be ghey

Posted by: Jean at January 25, 2014 02:05 PM (4JkHl)

142 Libtards are always looking for fresh perspectives.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 25, 2014 02:06 PM (xwuyd)

143 141 I think that we here are also in a sort of echo
chamber of sorts, though there is a lot of exposure to liberal ideas
here just for purposes of deconstructing it.


Posted by: GnuBreed

Must be ghey


Ghey RINO

Posted by: pep at January 25, 2014 02:07 PM (6TB1Z)

144 But then, aren't they all.

Posted by: pep at January 25, 2014 02:07 PM (6TB1Z)

145 My guess is that Bezos had a come to Jesus meeting with WaPo's top brass and gave them an ultimatum.


We can dream, can't we?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 25, 2014 02:07 PM (xwuyd)

146 "Cooke went back later and deleted the tweets where he really went off. NDH saved a few, I think." That's a shame.

Posted by: Decaf at January 25, 2014 02:08 PM (op2WR)

147 112 @87 - I'm looking forward to the day when Amazon Home lets you pick the floorplan, then their drone slings 3600sf of fully-assembled two-story detached with Craftsman details out to your lot.

It could be quite a neighborhood event. Posted by: JEM

With the exception of the foundation and a couple of guys to direct traffic, North American Homes will just about do that.

Posted by: Jean at January 25, 2014 02:09 PM (4JkHl)

148 The problem with you conservative wingnuts is that you won't open your eyes to all of the spectacular successes of socialism.  Like..








Look, squirrel!!!!

Posted by: The MSM, Now With 20% More Integrity at January 25, 2014 02:09 PM (xwuyd)

149 Speaking of Donald Kaul, here's a Newsbuster piece about something Kaul wrote back in 2012 --
 
"I would tie Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, our esteemed Republican leaders, to the back of a Chevy pickup truck and drag them around a parking lot until they saw the light on gun control," he wrote. Is that a threatening James Byrd reference? "And if that didnÂ’t work, IÂ’d adopt radical measures." This was how he spelled out the other agenda items, which included killing NRA members who wouldn't surrender their arms:
 <snip>
Declare the NRA a terrorist organization and make membership illegal. Hey! We did it to the Communist Party, and the NRA has led to the deaths of more of us than American Commies ever did. (I would also raze the organization’s headquarters, clear the rubble and salt the earth, but that’s optional.) Make ownership of unlicensed assault rifles a felony. If some people refused to give up their guns, that “prying the guns from their cold, dead hands” thing works for me.

 
http://tinyurl.com/bdss7eu
 
Now there is a tolerant liberal.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2014 02:10 PM (cHZB7)

150 We can dream, can't we?

Bezos didn't get where he was by being soft and indulgent.  I have no doubt this is the first time in their miserable adult lives that the whiny little brats at the Post have been held accountable, and they don't like the experience.  Likewise, the WaPo "readers" are accustomed to being told how brilliant they are, without the intercession of reason or accountability.  They also dislike having their illusions so rudely disrupted. 

Posted by: pep at January 25, 2014 02:10 PM (6TB1Z)

151 OT Y-not and Weird Dave, thanks for the gardening thread. Got to it late. Added a few comments. I need to think Spring to hang onto what little sanity I have left.

Posted by: seamrog at January 25, 2014 02:11 PM (M+Ftk)

152 >> RINO
 
And proud of it.
 
>> ghey RINO
 
Hey, wait a damn minute.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2014 02:12 PM (cHZB7)

153 See Chevy trucks are the liberal's choice.

Posted by: Jean at January 25, 2014 02:13 PM (4JkHl)

154 This wonÂ’t last long at Washington Post. It may lead to new readers and them losing the old libs, now that would be progress.

Posted by: Carol at January 25, 2014 02:13 PM (z4WKX)

155 Cool, so I can order guns on Amazon now.

Posted by: Jean at January 25, 2014 02:16 PM (4JkHl)

156 Dear Mr. Bezos,

Did I mention that I'm now a conservative?  Yup, those Tango Partiers are right about everything.  Say, do you know if WaPo is hiring?  Like, maybe a blogger?

Posted by: Ezra Klein at January 25, 2014 02:16 PM (6TB1Z)

157 See Chevy trucks are the liberal's choice. Posted by: Jean ------------------- Kaul would not know a Chevy pickup from a Subaru Brat. From Wiki: " Perhaps Kaul's greatest legacy is the Des Moines Register‘s annual, weeklong bike ride across Iowa..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 25, 2014 02:18 PM (aDwsi)

158 From Wiki: " Perhaps Kaul's greatest legacy is the Des Moines Register‘s annual, weeklong bike ride across Iowa..."

Wow, one F4 tornado could change America's political landscape for a generation.

Posted by: Jean at January 25, 2014 02:19 PM (4JkHl)

159 OT Y-not and Weird Dave, thanks for the gardening thread. Got to it late. Added a few comments. I need to think Spring to hang onto what little sanity I have left.

I had to stop at the grocery store for a few things this morning and told a clerk , 'I've come for some spring, do you have it?' She didn't miss a beat and said, 'yes, aisle 17.' The store has 16 aisles.

Posted by: Retread at January 25, 2014 02:21 PM (cHwk5)

160
Wow, one F4 tornado could change America's political landscape for a generation.

Posted by: Jean at January 25, 2014 06:19 PM (4JkHl)


You don't need an F4 to take out a bike....

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at January 25, 2014 02:24 PM (IPz9m)

161 I need to think Spring to hang onto what little sanity I have left. --------- Not I. I gaze out upon the withered frozen grass and dread the day when it begins to turn green. It will, sooner or later, but I'd rather put it off for at least two more months.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 25, 2014 02:24 PM (aDwsi)

162 You don't need an F4 to take out a bike.... Posted by: KG ----------------- Chevy truck.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 25, 2014 02:24 PM (aDwsi)

163 CW Cooke is a lot like Lee Stranahan, I am wondering how a person who scolds right twice for every scold aimed left is "independent." Cooke thinks the left can be reasoned out of idiocy that was not reasoned into.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2014 02:25 PM (TE35l)

164 Everyone knows it's "WaPo" not "WashPo." The stupid little hysterical juice boxer/commenter couldn't even get that right.


Posted by: Dancing Queen at January 25, 2014 02:25 PM (FDGeg)

165 John McCain's formal censure by the Arizona GOP at statewide convention  overwhelmingly approved by voice vote. Now maybe Jeff Flake will pay attention to conservatives in AZ.

Posted by: sourdough at January 25, 2014 02:26 PM (G7kOW)

166 163 They are the repository of Known Facts

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at January 25, 2014 02:26 PM (MhA4j)

167 So Volokh just successfully argued a constitutional case at a big venue and has been a successful lawyer and academic for how long, yet WaPo readers exalt Ezra fucking Klein and Barky as their paragons of experience and accomplishment??

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 25, 2014 02:28 PM (WQcLz)

168
Do you know the real reason why a pussy like Donald Kaul writes the crap he writes?

Kaul wishes to agitate others into carrying out his fantasies. Donald Kaul, like the Al Qaeda and PLO leaders, are the worst type of cowards there are.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 25, 2014 02:31 PM (gYIst)

169 163 Well,he's British.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2014 02:31 PM (zqvg6)

170 I felt a great disturbance in the force. It was as if Hundreds of minds had suddenly been extinguished. More like a few libtard heads had exploded.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at January 25, 2014 02:32 PM (baiNQ)

171 CW Cooke is a lot like Lee Stranahan, I am wondering how a person who scolds right twice for every scold aimed left is "independent."

Posted by: sven10077


I like Cooke's stuff at NRO but we don't need another scolding Internet Hall Monitor for the Right. We're full up. It really needs to stop.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 25, 2014 02:33 PM (cxs6V)

172 I try to keep to the " no enemies to the right of me" idea.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2014 02:33 PM (zqvg6)

173

From Wiki: " Perhaps Kaul's greatest legacy is the Des Moines Register‘s annual, weeklong bike ride across Iowa..."

Wow, one F4 tornado could change America's political landscape for a generation.

 

The RAGBRAI is a non-political event.  A lot of my friends and colleagues have done a section of the ride or an entire ride.  Kaul may be a progressive loon, but the RAGBRAI is not. 

 

Posted by: rd at January 25, 2014 02:33 PM (D+lxs)

174 Now maybe Jeff Flake will pay attention to conservatives in AZ. Comedy gold, Jerry!

Posted by: George Costanza at January 25, 2014 02:34 PM (JQuNB)

175 Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2014 06:25 PM (TE35l) I'm not entirely sure. He got in a good snark today on Twitter which basically acknowledged what you said. I think his reasoned arguments are more for us.

Posted by: Saber Alter at January 25, 2014 02:35 PM (DNu5Y)

176 167 Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 25, 2014 06:28 PM (WQcLz)

It's a lot like I said to my wife's girls when they were needing repacked to go to Iraq, "they are who they are and we are who we are and God damn them we are better than them."

I not only suffer, but welcome contrary voices to analyze their positions and learn to obliterate them if they are unsound or deleterious.

The serial retard who is not here to exchange ideas merits only reproach and mockery, but a contrary voice that is able to consider a contrary POV is a treasure.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 25, 2014 02:36 PM (TE35l)

177 This is what really bothers them - that Volokh is a Jewish, urban, educated man who is pro-gun. They don't want to admit or be reminded that such people exist. As Volokh notes, they believe all "gun nuts" are illiterate yahoos from the trailer park. While the left hates everyone on the right, they especially hate the people who don't fit their stereotypes. Hence the extra helping of spite reserved for any blacks,women or others who should "naturally" be on the left, but aren't.

Posted by: Donna V. at January 25, 2014 02:37 PM (R3gO3)

178 Hence the extra helping of spite reserved for any blacks,women or others who should "naturally" be on the left, but aren't. Posted by: Donna V. at January 25, 2014 06:37 PM (R3gO3) --Blacks especially. Gives them an excuse to get in touch with their inner Klansman.

Posted by: logprof at January 25, 2014 02:39 PM (fOFYL)

179 161 Not I. I gaze out upon the withered frozen grass and dread the day when it begins to turn green. It will, sooner or later, but I'd rather put it off for at least two more months. Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 25, 2014 06:24 PM (aDwsi) Same here. As long as the heat stays on, I'm just fine with winter.

Posted by: rickl at January 25, 2014 02:39 PM (sdi6R)

180 I wonder why the MFM doesn't get as tired shoveling their bullshit, as I do shoveling snow.

Posted by: seamrog at January 25, 2014 02:41 PM (M+Ftk)

181 175 Posted by: Saber Alter at January 25, 2014 06:35 PM (DNu5Y)

I unfollowed Stranahan after years when the Benghazi admissions started leaking out and he starts trying to sell the idea that "NO REALLY IT WAS ABOUT A VIDEO!" routine.

I confronted him with the fact that surviving eyewitnesses said there were NO PROTESTORS prior to the attack and he starts spinning that "well the entire region really was inflamed by them b/c uh Cairo."

Stranahan is quick to throw himself and by reputation's extension Breitbart on the hand grenade whenever there is ANY chance the News Narrative will land blows on the Obama administration or Hillary!

He gets a lot of rhetorical mileage out of his "Christian reporting."

Not too horribly bothered by our aiding the people butchering the Copts though.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 25, 2014 02:42 PM (TE35l)

182 While the left hates everyone on the right, they especially hate the people who don't fit their stereotypes. Hence the extra helping of spite reserved for any blacks,women or others who should "naturally" be on the left, but aren't.


The caricature of the gun-toting, cousin-humping, Bible-thumping, uneducated racist mysogynistic cracka is precious to the Left.  Every leftard mediocrity needs a foil to give him/her an unearned sense of superiority over something. The caricature is it.  So they hate it when they're forced to consider that they may be dumber than most conservatives.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 25, 2014 02:44 PM (xwuyd)

183 177 Posted by: Donna V. at January 25, 2014 06:37 PM (R3gO3)

Plaintiff's Exhibit one-Clarence Thomas

Two-Milton Friedman

Three-Mia Love

Four-Herman Cain

Five Condi "by far the superior" Rice...

etc etc

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 25, 2014 02:44 PM (TE35l)

184 The Left is and has always been carefully balanced on its carefully carved narrative. Look at the threat ultrasound presents to their 'clump of cells' abortion arguments.

Posted by: --- at January 25, 2014 02:45 PM (MMC8r)

185

It's a shame that we will never have truly accurate numbers on how many 'crimes prevented' by gun ownership.

 

And I applaud Volokh for the missionary work he's now doing at WaPo.

Maybe it will help to counter the divisive 'othering' that Barky and the Left do all the time. 

Posted by: wheatie at January 25, 2014 02:45 PM (Wq5le)

186 Kaul may be a progressive loon, but the RAGBRAI is not. Posted by: rd ------------------ No doubt it is a lot fun. But that is not the point. The Ultimate Reference characterizes it as his "greatest legacy". An organized bicycle ride?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 25, 2014 02:46 PM (aDwsi)

187 171 Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 25, 2014 06:33 PM (cxs6V)

Same here.  The self-appointed hall monitors are pretending we are not in an ideological war with an unreliable narrator in the MSM.  I need something more reliable than my broken flashlight to guide my gaze.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 25, 2014 02:46 PM (TE35l)

188 154 This wonÂ’t last long at Washington Post. It may lead to new readers and them losing the old libs, now that would be progress. Posted by: Carol at January 25, 2014 06:13 PM (z4WKX) It will last as long as Bezos says. New management.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 25, 2014 02:47 PM (oFCZn)

189 It's like the Iowa Republican committee put up a satirical flow chart of how to tell who's a racist.

Of course most of the flow chart led to the reader being called a racist if they were white or Republican or any number of other inane categories that have elicited the "Racist" label.

Annnndd they had to take it down because it was considered soooo controversial . .  by the Liberals.

On their Facebook page the comments were surreal. At the DailyBeast where it was first noted, the comments were . .  wait for it . . . all about how the Republicans were racists for making fun of people being called racist for no reason.

This is why the Onion is out of business. The Liberals have become parodies of themselves.

I'm surprised that Volokh went with WaPo. I'm not surprised at the reaction. Wait till he sees his numbers drop because he's now behind a paywall.

I guess they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. (and I wonder if they didn't make the offer just to weaken his appeal.)

I hope Ace doesn't get these kinds of offers. It must torment his soul at night if so. Thanks for hanging in there if that's the case Ace.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 25, 2014 02:48 PM (LSDdO)

190 Now Sarah Silverman compares sperm to unborn babies. http://tinyurl.com/mkmvj5l

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2014 02:49 PM (zqvg6)

191 I wonder why the MFM doesn't get as tired shoveling their bullshit, as I do shoveling snow. Posted by: seamrog ---------------- They feed on it. The narrative is mother's milk for them. In the absence of confirmation bias, they are at a loss.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 25, 2014 02:50 PM (aDwsi)

192 169 Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2014 06:31 PM (zqvg6)

Yes Steevy and a lot like that other charming Brit who stabbed us in the back he thinks it is his God given mission to "fix American Conservatism." 

I have a domestic shithead, and a Canadian shithead...

When I need a shithead I can buy domestic or at a minimum North American.

172 Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2014 06:33 PM (zqvg6)

and I try to keep up with "no enemies to my right*" as well...

*anti-Semites and overt bigots need not apply

It takes a lot for me to finally write someone off, n is there CW Cooke is not.

Andi Sullivan jumped there himself.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 25, 2014 02:50 PM (TE35l)

193

No doubt it is a lot fun. But that is not the point. The Ultimate Reference characterizes it as his "greatest legacy". An organized bicycle ride?

 

For someone on the left, RAGBRAI is an actual positive accomplishment.  Yeah, it is abasically a week long rolling Beer-Fest and party, but at least it isn't stealing your money or your rights.  Compare and contrast to their "Wars" on Poverty, Guns, and Drugs. 

 

 

 

Posted by: rd at January 25, 2014 02:52 PM (D+lxs)

194 189 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 25, 2014 06:48 PM (LSDdO)

Volokh has the intellectual firepower and poise to be a legitimate WF Buckley if inclined.

He's that dangerous to them, but he is also so credentialed they will be tempted to keep him near.

Al Wa-Po doesn't know the Purina Ewok blend we use.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 25, 2014 02:53 PM (TE35l)

195 The funny thing is I don't consider Volokh to be hard-core "conservative." There's a range of opinions there from what I've seen over the years.

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at January 25, 2014 02:54 PM (zDsvJ)

196 177 This is what really bothers them - that Volokh is a Jewish, urban, educated man who is pro-gun. They don't want to admit or be reminded that such people exist. As Volokh notes, they believe all "gun nuts" are illiterate yahoos from the trailer park. While the left hates everyone on the right, they especially hate the people who don't fit their stereotypes. Hence the extra helping of spite reserved for any blacks,women or others who should "naturally" be on the left, but aren't. Posted by: Donna V. at January 25, 2014 06:37 PM (R3gO3) I work in a field dominated by lefties. True, LIV, lefties. I try not to bring my political beliefs into the workplace, but when someone asks me a question I answer honestly. I'm told, "Well, yeah Harrison. But you're not like other conservatives. You're a smart guy, you just don't see things the way we do." They have absolutely no understanding of either their blindness or of their condescension.

Posted by: George Costanza at January 25, 2014 02:55 PM (JQuNB)

197 Contrary argument is good for any movement or idea though. An interesting thing about the echo chamber effect of the internet or MSNBC, for example, is what it does to how people think. 1) Person finds other people who agree with them. 2) The group starts talking, mostly in agreement about various topics of the day. 3) After a while merely discussing and agreeing is not enough so they start attacking their enemies. These attacks are primarily meant to be read and applauded by those they agree with, not the target. Arguments start to get even sloppier because they are no longer trying to persuade or explain their belief, because their goal is merely to fill the echo chamber. 4) Everyone starts to outdo the other in trying to attack the enemy. Arguments get even sloppier, where possible. 5) You end up with the spectacle that is MSNBC where the anchors cannot even understand before the fact how what they said was in terribly poor taste. The weird thing about the disappearance of courtesy is how it has also caused a requisite drop in the ability to frame and reason an argument. Martin Bashir on MSNBC 200 years ago would have had a yard of steel through his chest delivered by Mr. Palin within 24 hours, before he ever had a chance to offer his weasely apology. When physical threat is still present and "fighting words" have meaning you reason out your arguments, you are much more likely to try to convince the other party than to sit back and snark and mock, because that could turn ugly. And yes, our side is in as much danger as the left in this regard. Passion is fine, but it has to be tempered with reason. Our arguments should be tested, weighed, and improved, where possible. In the end, we want to convince people, not leave them dead on the battlefield.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 25, 2014 02:55 PM (TGgNi)

198 Sock fail.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 25, 2014 02:56 PM (JQuNB)

199 Can we just agree that Sarah Silverman is a mediocrity who thinks she can compete with funnier male comics by being as vulgar and gratuitous as possible?

Posted by: --- at January 25, 2014 02:56 PM (MMC8r)

200 I saw Little Cocooned Cult open for Iron Butterfly in 1970 out in San Francisco.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 25, 2014 02:57 PM (g4TxM)

201 199 I second.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 25, 2014 02:58 PM (TGgNi)

202 Can we just agree that Sarah Silverman is a mediocrity who thinks she can compete with funnier male comics by being as vulgar and gratuitous as possible? I'd still burn the fur off of her.

Posted by: garrett at January 25, 2014 02:58 PM (PChxU)

203

The funny thing is I don't consider Volokh to be hard-core "conservative." There's a range of opinions there from what I've seen over the years.

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at January 25, 2014 06:54 PM (zDsvJ)

 

I think the post subject of "Negroes and Guns" tripped the progressives' Inner Klansman.  They are afraid to admit that they do not want guns in the hands of blacks and other minorities.  The only safe guns for progressives are those that They Control. 

Posted by: rd at January 25, 2014 02:58 PM (D+lxs)

204 Notice how the Right is supposed to be all inbred banjo-pickers, but the Left is all college professors, but not their welfare-sucking, high-school dropout base?

Posted by: --- at January 25, 2014 02:58 PM (MMC8r)

205 Sarah Silverman is a sad pathetic little girl who needs her daddy's love and attention but never got it.

This is her only way; to act like a cunt, to talk like a whore and to think like a slut.

I may have got those mixed up.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 25, 2014 02:59 PM (LSDdO)

206 There's nothing wrong with Sarah Silverman that a good horsefucking wouldn't correct. OWWW!

Posted by: Andrew Dice Clay at January 25, 2014 03:01 PM (JQuNB)

207 Sarah Silverman is in a competition with Kathy Griffin to see which one can gross out more people.

Posted by: wheatie at January 25, 2014 03:02 PM (Wq5le)

208 Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 25, 2014 06:42 PM (TE35l) Never followed him, I follow Cooke. Sorry, I wasn't very clear there.

Posted by: Saber Alter at January 25, 2014 03:03 PM (DNu5Y)

209

What's the female equivalent of a 'shock jock'? ...A shock gynie?

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 25, 2014 03:05 PM (Wq5le)

210 208 Saber Alter, I was comparing the two, but not to say I, see Cooke the same way. Apologies for the lack of clarity as well, I am a bit depressed this week.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2014 03:09 PM (TE35l)

211 204 Notice how the Right is supposed to be all inbred banjo-pickers, but the Left is all college professors, but not their welfare-sucking, high-school dropout base? Posted by: --- at January 25, 2014 06:58 PM (MMC8r) I remember seeing an analysis of either the 2000 or 2004 election, I forget which. In the category of education, the Democrat candidate won an overwhelming majority in two categories: people with post-graduate degrees and high-school dropouts. Those in between were more evenly split or leaned Republican. Weird.

Posted by: rickl at January 25, 2014 03:17 PM (sdi6R)

212 I think the post subject of "Negroes and Guns" tripped the progressives'Inner Klansman. They are afraid to admit that they do not want guns in the hands of blacks and other minorities. The only safe guns for progressives are those that They Control. Precisely. At my workplace there are anti-gun posters on the walls. After Sandy Hook someone asked me, in front of many of my co-workers, what I think about guns. "I like 'em. That's what I think about guns. I love guns. I'm not much of a hunter, but I don't object to hunting. I shoot paper and tin cans. It's a lot of fun. I have a lot of guns. If I had more money, I'd have a lot more guns." There were slack-jawed gasps all around. Later, in private, more than one of my co-workers told me they don't object at all to the idea that responsible, thoughtful people like me own guns. Again, they're absolutely blind to the influence that lefty ideology has on them.

Posted by: Andrew Dice Clay at January 25, 2014 03:20 PM (JQuNB)

213 Another sock fail. I'm not doing well tonight, apparently.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 25, 2014 03:21 PM (JQuNB)

214 Later, in private, more than one of my co-workers told me they don't object at all to the idea that responsible, thoughtful people like me own guns. Sounds like the 'oh, not you, you're one of the GOOD ONES' that bigots are supposed to always say to black people.

Posted by: --- at January 25, 2014 03:22 PM (MMC8r)

215 He's probably the biggest threat to the left- wing group-think in years. An intelligent, thoughtful forum for libertarians and conservatives to exchange perspectives. They (gasp) have friendly disagreements, and do something strange and new, called debate. Why, what If the idea caught on., and people began to disagree using courtesy, and (horrors) facts, logic and debate rules. The world as we know it might end. When I saw their announcement I immediately invited everyone I knew to add them on their news feed. Fantastic opportunity to shake perceptions

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at January 25, 2014 03:26 PM (lt4yL)

216 I don't care for guns myself, but I believe in the Second Amendment. What the gun haters on the left should seriously consider is the fact that it is their positions and policies on  crime, and their pronouncements on getting "tougher on guns" have sold more guns to more people that the best gun salesmen on the planet ever could. Gun ownership has sky-rocketed since Obama took office.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at January 25, 2014 03:28 PM (Usdw3)

217 Piers Morgan inviting Katy Perry on his show to talk about guns after she makes a stupid Tweet about the lmall shooting.Katy Perry,2nd Amendment scholar.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2014 03:29 PM (zqvg6)

218 the existence of dissent itself is an outrage to WAPO kapos, even before any consideration of its quality.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at January 25, 2014 03:29 PM (PqS8B)

219 Sounds like the 'oh, not you, you're one of the GOOD ONES' that bigots are supposed to always say to black people. It is like that. My co-workers maintain that I'm nothing like the conservative/libertarian people they read about in their media. But the fact is that I'm just "like that." They prefer their stereotypes to being informed by their own experience. A priori reasoning, anyone?

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 25, 2014 03:29 PM (JQuNB)

220 Katy Perry does have big 'guns though...

Posted by: JoeyBagels at January 25, 2014 03:29 PM (Usdw3)

221

" I'm told, "Well, yeah Harrison. But you're not like other conservatives. You're a smart guy, you just don't see things the way we do."

 

 And I'm sure those LIV leftists then patted themselves on the backs for that incredible display of tolerance. "Hey, we've admitted that ONE conservative is smart! See, we're open-minded!"

Posted by: Donna V. at January 25, 2014 03:29 PM (R3gO3)

222 I must point out again,Katy Perry had sex with Russell Brand ,many times.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2014 03:31 PM (zqvg6)

223 217 Morgan keeps going lower to try to find a debate opponent he can beat. He's down to pop stars.

Posted by: --- at January 25, 2014 03:35 PM (MMC8r)

224 Posted by: sven10077 at January 25, 2014 07:09 PM (TE35l) Sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better soon.

Posted by: Saber Alter at January 25, 2014 03:39 PM (DNu5Y)

225

Okay...I clicked the linky and read more about it.

 

There was a picture there that shows a guy in a speedo going down feet-first...which shows how high the guard rails are on the sides.

They are actually pretty high.

 

Click my nic to see the picture.

Posted by: wheatie at January 25, 2014 03:41 PM (Wq5le)

226
You don't need an F4 to take out a bike....

Posted by: KG
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An F150 would work just fine.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2014 03:42 PM (aYjRw)

227

Uh oh...my link goes to the main article, like the one above.

I have no link fu.

 

Oh well...scroll down and you'll see the pic of the dude sliding down.

Posted by: wheatie at January 25, 2014 03:44 PM (Wq5le)

228 Ooops...wrong thread. Dammit.

Posted by: wheatie at January 25, 2014 03:45 PM (Wq5le)

229 We want our Ezra Klein bottle! -- WaPo readers, not yet weaned from their binkies

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at January 25, 2014 04:07 PM (HsTG8)

230 Heh, that guy thinks Eugene Volokh looks young? He and I were both members of the LASFS back in the 80s. He looked like a fetus in a suit back then. I'd never have guessed he would become somewhat famous.

There was a restaurant where he'd come and gone when we began collecting the cash for the check and came up short. It was suggested, jokingly, that Eugene had done a dine and dash on us. I noted there was an item called Chicken Eugene on the menu. Banter progressed from there.

Posted by: Epobirs at January 25, 2014 04:20 PM (bPxS6)

231 We want our Ezra Klein bottle! -- WaPo readers, not yet weaned from their binkies That's appropriate, since Ezra Klein is as twisted as a Klein bottle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle

Posted by: --- at January 25, 2014 04:25 PM (MMC8r)

232 "Â… let the people know my wisdom, fill the land with smoke"

Posted by: The Prophet John Fogarty at January 25, 2014 04:27 PM (G7Yr9)

233 I just got those Russell Brand amages out of my head. But I knew as soon as someone mentioned Katy Perry, Russell wouldn't be far behind. But he did do an epic takedown of Mika Brzezinski once.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 25, 2014 04:54 PM (HubSo)

234 Well, Eugene Volokh does look a lot younger than one might expect.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 25, 2014 05:25 PM (T1005)

235 #230 OMG, Volokh was LASFS?! We can't look back and SEE 'screwed' from here...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 25, 2014 05:50 PM (XO6WW)

236 I wonder how long it is till WAPO forces out Volokh like they did Ben Domenech.

Posted by: midwestconservative at January 25, 2014 06:49 PM (eFTkY)

237 In fairness, Volokh does look like a teenager. He's like one of them fancy smart kids who go a PhD. in Mathematics at 15.

Posted by: Brian at January 26, 2014 11:11 AM (ERaV9)

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