January 24, 2014
— Gabriel Malor FRIDAY!
The incredible, shrinking Charlie Crist campaign.
Some food for thought over at PJMedia, which (amazingly) wasn't prompted by Certain Effin' Doomabee's big mouth, first from Roger Simon: "How Social Conservatives Are Saving Liberalism (Barely)" and then a response from Bryan Preston: "Rebuttal to Another ‘Why Won’t the Social Conservatives Just Shut Up?’ Post."
And a cool bit from a 1934 L.A. Times on the Lizard People who lived under Los Angeles 5,000 years ago.
Have a great weekend. This week's podcast will be up soon!
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 02:51 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Chilling the most at January 24, 2014 02:51 AM (gxtMZ)
Posted by: wing.....and a prayer at January 24, 2014 02:52 AM (dLNm7)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 02:53 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 02:57 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: jeffrey pelt at January 24, 2014 02:58 AM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 06:53 AM (olDqf)
Another in the long line of questions our nominee had better fucking answer - will you eliminate the IRS?
No?
FYNQ.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 02:59 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:01 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:02 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 03:03 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:03 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:04 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 24, 2014 03:05 AM (HsTG8)
He is inside no so no doggy vs cat stuff. My cats just sniffed at him and he sniffed at them
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 24, 2014 03:06 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 03:07 AM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:09 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 24, 2014 03:10 AM (HsTG8)
It's all bad anyways..
I read a piece somewhere yesterday that laid out some pretty good evidence that the Senate races are tied to Barky's approval ratings.
The thing is, though.. will Barky and ValJer think up some "crisis" to build up his ratings before the elections? Or, maybe he doesn't care since he's not up for re-election?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 24, 2014 03:11 AM (b/lt+)
Posted by: RickZ at January 24, 2014 03:12 AM (PpAf4)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 24, 2014 03:12 AM (HsTG8)
............
Ewwwwwwwww!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 24, 2014 03:12 AM (b/lt+)
Posted by: blaster at January 24, 2014 03:13 AM (4+AaH)
It is 9 degrees.....I said 9 degrees in Alafuckinbama this morning.
Our Harvard educated betters in Wash. D.C. are still closing coal burning power plants across the country. Now 24 states have a propane gas shortage. And the price of propane, of course, is going up. D.C., It can't be said enough. Your leadership sucks. You are idiots. A slug has more common sense. And the MSM are even worse than you. I curse you and the ground you step on.
Posted by: Case at January 24, 2014 03:13 AM (VctSv)
No but my doctor wants to sign me up to AA
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 24, 2014 03:13 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 03:15 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Boone at January 24, 2014 03:15 AM (Ir3Un)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:15 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 24, 2014 03:17 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:18 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 24, 2014 03:19 AM (JQuNB)
1) He hasn't been convicted yet.
2) We stopped deporting foreign nationals convicted of DUI years ago. They might make an exception because he's white, but don't hold your breath.
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 03:20 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 24, 2014 03:20 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 07:15 AM (olDqf)
Did Malkin turn over the jar with their tiny nads in it to Clown Hall or did she sell it to some sperm bank for eunuchs?
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 03:20 AM (WRKdV)
Hard to discuss the history of the dumbwaiter without its inventor.
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 03:22 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:22 AM (olDqf)
Simon's wrong - gay marriage is not nearly as popular as people thing it is. Mostly, it benefits from the psychology of bullying to shut up its opposition. There's a reason why nearly all the states that have it only have it because of judicial activism.
Frankly, I think that this whole "The SoCons are hurting us!!!!!" nonsense is just an effort by RINOs and "fiscal conservatives" to argue around the fact of their own electoral deficiencies. RINOs always ignore the fact that while the Tea Parties may have the trifecta of Miller, Angle, and O'Donnell to their name, the GOP establishment candidates have taken even more of an electoral beating.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 24, 2014 03:23 AM (U+vgB)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 03:23 AM (E4MKN)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 24, 2014 03:23 AM (oE+Ss)
Posted by: Boone at January 24, 2014 07:15 AM (Ir3Un)
We left John "Emotional Giant" Boehner in charge of all the gunpowder and now it's soaked from his tears and copious amounts of urine from every time he faces a violation of the Constitution from the JEF and his apparatchiks.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 03:25 AM (WRKdV)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 24, 2014 03:25 AM (oE+Ss)
This much is obvious.
Although....last night he was not nearly as strident as he usually is.
Not that that's saying all that much of course.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:25 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:26 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Boone at January 24, 2014 03:26 AM (Ir3Un)
The mark of a true AoSHQ regular.
Which is not to be confused with "true conservative"
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:27 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 24, 2014 03:27 AM (HsTG8)
I scored me some sweet Super Bowl tickets.
Next Sunday, I'll be basking in the warmth of the beautiful Super bowl city, wearing a pair of shorts and a tshirt, ready to watch a great game. HaHaHA. You'll all be freezing your butts off...wait..what the...EAST RUTHERFORD???!!?!?!?!
Posted by: Bruce at January 24, 2014 03:28 AM (xvzKS)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 07:23 AM (E4MKN)
I think Ace has been tending in the SoCon direction since starting the HQ, but I'd never put him in the category. As far as "screeching" - well, argue coherently why the SoCon viewpoint is an electoral loser and I'll give it consideration. Start out with "why don't you homophobes shut up about Planned Murderhood," however, and I'll damn well screech.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 03:29 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 03:29 AM (qBtUE)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 24, 2014 03:30 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 24, 2014 07:23 AM (U+vgB)
For all the shit the RINOs give the TP about Angle, they conveniently forget that the Searchlight Pederast didn't magically appear from out of nowhere. Rather he beat a series of Repukes since after Paul Laxalt was in office so, unless Angle has perfected time travel, there's a string of RINO carcasses that Reid has dispatched through the years, including, I'm sure, some that Rove thought were perfectly "electable" as part of his permanent Repuke majority.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 03:30 AM (WRKdV)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 03:30 AM (E4MKN)
And where are you frozen?
Because it was 10 in our nation's capital when I went to work.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:30 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:31 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 24, 2014 03:31 AM (XvrTA)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 24, 2014 03:32 AM (HsTG8)
Preston's response if dead-on target. He makes a good point about effectively disenfranchising SoCons, too. I know there are a few head-in-the-sand lunatics here on AoSHQ who think they can win without SoCons, but that simply won't happen. If you don't stand with SoCons to save the culture, then you will be doomed to 30% minorities in elections, here and forever. Something that the more libertarian-minded, "my way or the highway" crowd needs to think about....but probably won't.
If the GOP follows Roger Simon's advice, it will only cement my desire to see the GOP die a quick and spasmodic death. Even if that doesn't happen, if the GOP formalises its dismissal of SoCons, I'm all for splitting the Right vote and letting the Democrats win again and again until the GOP and the liberaltarians figure it out. It's not like the GOPe and the RINOs have been doing a very good job of beating the Democrats anywise.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 24, 2014 03:32 AM (U+vgB)
My bad.
When it comes to SoCon issues, he does not persuade. He hammers. Right from the start. Then he wonders why things get hot.
Well, maybe he doesn't wonder. What do I know. I'm a Moron.
Read Preston's counter to Simon's piece above. I thought he had the better of the argument.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:32 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 24, 2014 07:31 AM (XvrTA)
Would you go public and trash the people you work with ever day?
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 24, 2014 03:33 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:33 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 03:34 AM (E4MKN)
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 24, 2014 03:34 AM (U+vgB)
yeah but if the game is played in sunshine it will be much better....oh wait it is played at night....shit you better bring an ass and ball warmer. Yeah play the game in the northeast in the winter, great ideaPosted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 03:35 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 03:36 AM (qBtUE)
No he hasn't.
And he's not trying to "control" anything, except patently obnoxious trolls.
I just don't agree with the ways he tries to make his point. But I could say the same about a lot of SoCons here too - and I am one.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:36 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Regular Moron
Actually, I'll be returning from an ice fishing weekend that day. I will watch the game in my living room with the sound turned way down. If the game gets boring, I'll go to bed.
I'm just still amazed on the location of the game. If I was a player for any of the teams in the NFC or AFC playoffs, I think I would have tanked the game. It seems more like a punishment.
Posted by: Bruce at January 24, 2014 03:36 AM (xvzKS)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 03:37 AM (E4MKN)
@ 76 - "Well, that's your opinion that ace is evolving. I disagree. And it's the opposite of what you state. If someone says they do not agree that abortion should be banned, then they are the ones who get screeched at. I think a lot of people here don't want abortion to be banned but they keep their mouths shut including Ace. He has lost control of his own blog."
You people can either lead, follow, or get out of the way. SoCons are the ones defending liberty, while you folks whine about fake quotes that Mike Huckabee didn't even actually say.
And you wonder why libertarian types are so ineffectual?
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 24, 2014 03:37 AM (U+vgB)
I'm sure there are local Morons who will be happy to help you warm up.
Just tell them you're a ginger. That'll work.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:37 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 24, 2014 03:37 AM (oE+Ss)
He probably was subdued on Beck's show because he didn't want Glenn to start crying and blaming himself for all the troubles in the world.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 03:37 AM (WRKdV)
Posted by: junkyard dog and alley cat at January 24, 2014 03:38 AM (OmYxb)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 03:38 AM (t3UFN)
Every poll that asks people what issues are important to them leads with the economy, jobs, etc.
So, just as gay marriage is not important to most voters, neither is abortion.
We need to make 2014 about failed Obama policies.. hammer Obamacare as the next show drops on employer plans. Lay the lost jobs at Obama's door and every Democrat who voted for O'Care and any of his other policies.
We need a wave election again, because 2016 doesn't have anywhere near the potential for gain as does 2014.
Then we can go after the White House in 2016.
And I read an article last week that suggested Mike Pence might make a great dark horse candidate.. I could live with that!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 24, 2014 03:38 AM (b/lt+)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 03:38 AM (qBtUE)
Well, that's your opinion that ace is evolving. I disagree. And it's the opposite of what you state. If someone says they do not agree that abortion should be banned, then they are the ones who get screeched at. I think a lot of people here don't want abortion to be banned but they keep their mouths shut including Ace. He has lost control of his own blog.
Hmm. I don't see a lot of that, but then, I generally check out early in the afternoon, so maybe the fights are taking place on the ONT or late afternoon threads.
I would like abortion banned. I realize, however, it can't be done. It should, however, be treated as the serious, life-ending procedure that it is. And if that makes people uncomfortable, I'm sorry. I consider it murder and, while I will never have the electoral power to make it illegal, I will certainly do all I can to discourage it from occurring within the bounds of the present law and within the spirit of civil disobedience.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 03:40 AM (zF6Iw)
I'm forecasting a high of 57 in my office today. Given that it broke 60 degrees for about 45 minutes yesterday and that was the first time it was over somewhere in the 50's all week, I think I'm going to be right.
No, I'm not kidding. Yes, I'm not happy about this. Yes, I'm considering bailing if I walk in and it's in the 40's as it was yesterday. No, I won't because there's shit that has to be done.
Fuck you FSA.
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 03:40 AM (Gk3SS)
Hmmmm. Better tell 'em you have Kate Upton's body then.
Just to be sure.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:40 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 03:40 AM (t3UFN)
Can he not run down to Home Depot and pick up a kerosene heater as a quick fix?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:41 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 03:41 AM (E4MKN)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 03:41 AM (qBtUE)
We need to make 2014 about failed Obama policies.. hammer Obamacare as the next show drops on employer plans. Lay the lost jobs at Obama's door and every Democrat who voted for O'Care and any of his other policies.
Absolutely. And I say this - as my friend Sven points out - as a SoCon Holy Warrior (where the hell's my Holy Hand Grenade?)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 03:42 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Andy at January 24, 2014 03:43 AM (vGQV1)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 24, 2014 03:43 AM (oE+Ss)
Are you from the People's Front of Judea?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:43 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 03:44 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 03:44 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: junkyard dog and alley cat at January 24, 2014 07:38 AM (OmYxb)
Thinking about it. But as I said Dr already wants to sign me up for AA.
And Willie says more old drunks than there are old Drs so might as well drink up.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 24, 2014 03:44 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Boone at January 24, 2014 03:44 AM (Ir3Un)
Yeah, that's what I need. A long, slow, root canal.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:45 AM (MPIX5)
Now, now, there's no place for facts in public debate.
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 03:45 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:46 AM (olDqf)
I think when you're trashing Edmund Burke, as Ace did last night when someone posted a Burke quote, then you're losing your grasp of first principles.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:46 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 03:46 AM (qBtUE)
http://tinyurl.com/ous342h
Have a great day.
-C
Posted by: Cnation at January 24, 2014 03:47 AM (cP5n1)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 24, 2014 03:47 AM (oE+Ss)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 07:44 AM (zOTsN)
There is, I think, an excellent case to be made that a prosperous nation filled with hardworking families is, at its base, a moral and just society. The happy family wants to succeed. They want to instill the virtues in their children. They don't allow pop culture filth to put its hooks into the family. You can tie a good economy and full employment to moral growth. I wish I knew a candidate who could do so persuasively.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 03:47 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 07:45 AM (MPIX5)
Done on the wrong tooth. Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 07:46 AM (qBtUE)
Well, with NGU, that would be a given.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:47 AM (MPIX5)
@95. "Well then I am in love with you. Me and red hair: perfect together"
Are you sure so-cons want to hear this? Sounds like a cheap pick-up line. tsk. tsk.
Posted by: Case at January 24, 2014 03:48 AM (o00SF)
I'm happy to see a few people still go over there so I don't have to.
It's sad to think that Poppin' Fresh and his In Fairness Gang are most reflective of the kind of "Republicanism" that's rampant in D.C. these days. Hell, I'm sure Boner and his little minions have a given the denizens of the Groan Room a permanent invitation to Blogger's Row at all their soirees.
Not really sure where Ace stands. At times, his insights are spot-on and he eviscerates the Main Enemy with a precision few commentators can match. Other times, not so much.
But my gut tells me that when it's SHTF time, he'll do right. At that point, his excessive fascination with That Other Website and Teh Captain (Captain of what? The SS Minnow?) can be forgiven.
My gut also tells me Moar Coffee.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 24, 2014 03:49 AM (ff7/5)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 24, 2014 03:49 AM (oE+Ss)
Don't think about tomorrow's events, because the Heavenly Father who takes care of you today will do the same tomorrow and forever.
Live tranquilly, removing from your imagination that which upsets you and often say to our Lord: "Oh, God you are my God and I will trust in you. You will assist me and be my refuge, and I will fear nothing because not only are you with him, but you are in him and he is within you. What can a child fear in the arms of his loving Father"
From a letter of Saint Pio to one of the people he gave spiritual direction toPosted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 03:49 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at January 24, 2014 03:49 AM (a5ljo)
Posted by: rfichoke at January 24, 2014 03:50 AM (2G73v)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 03:50 AM (qBtUE)
I submit to you that people who are not SoCons are living off of the societal moral capital provided by SoCons.
Think about what life in America would be like without a critical mass of people who live SoCon values (imperfectly, but still strive to do so).
I think FiCons and "true conservatives" completely ignore this.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:50 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: AE at January 24, 2014 03:50 AM (HYceo)
Even my friends who are same-same as me on the left-right scale seem dazed when I paint the future for them. They can't wrap their minds around the coming police state. These are people who know their history, too. Hell, I'm 65. My decisions are made. And the Mexican spitfires I see at Walmart in ETEX are not zackly like the one you gave us this morning MP4. Nowamean?
Posted by: Erowmero at January 24, 2014 03:52 AM (OONaw)
Posted by: jakeman at January 24, 2014 03:52 AM (vH4YP)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:53 AM (olDqf)
That's right.
Ever notice Ace's hostility to faith?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:54 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 24, 2014 03:54 AM (eytER)
What a bright future the party will have.
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 07:50 AM (qBtUE)
You sure as hell didn't see it in that wonderful budget deal that Ryan negotiated. Nor did you see it in 2001-2006 when the Repukes controlled everything and spent money so fucking fast that the JEF had to try hard to outdo it. How anybody that wants fiscal restraint doesn't want Rove hung by the neck rather than being in a position of responsibility is a mystery to me.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 03:55 AM (WRKdV)
When lions and lambs show up on Vic's porch asking to come in and he doesn't tell them to get off his lawn, the end times will be upon us.
Fixed.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 03:56 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: jakeman at January 24, 2014 03:57 AM (vH4YP)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 03:57 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 07:54 AM (MPIX5)
And any stance that can be linked, however tortured the connection, to biblical prohibitions against certain behavior.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2014 03:57 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: --- at January 24, 2014 03:57 AM (MMC8r)
FIFY
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 03:58 AM (MPIX5)
But according to Ace, we should tell the socons, who actually care about those institutions to fuck right off.
Posted by: GMan at January 24, 2014 03:59 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 04:00 AM (zOTsN)
Ever notice Ace's hostility to faith?
He's got a blind spot when it comes to religion, and I don't know why. My own pulled-out-of-my-ass psychoanalysis is that, somewhere at base, he feels that religion is opposed to the things he enjoys, like ball dipping and tan-line prOn. I know, and Bannion knows, too, how very easy it is to explain that the Church is in no way anti-sex, and actually considers a healthy sex life to be a good thing, while still believing that prOn, in itself, is a deadener to pleasure, but for some reason, people's (not just Ace's) blinders go up.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 04:00 AM (zF6Iw)
They are building their little mousetrap and the GOP is busy trying to find which cave will bring Donk Voter into our fold when the reality is the vote for a mule is an exercise in faith.
Once the GOP passes amnesty this spring or summer after the primary season closes I will make it my mission to give the donks a super majority to overtly rend the Constitution asunder LEGALLY rather than the half-assed way they do it now.
Time to get the cards on the table and I can't see the people's will with the current supplicant butt thrust GOP undermining the case for liberty.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:01 AM (TE35l)
That's basically what we were saying last night, amirite?
Ace said that's not the real reason for our views - and that the real reason why we are for SoCon policies is because we're busybodies.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:02 AM (MPIX5)
@132. When lions and lambs show up on Vic's porch and he doesn't tell them to get off his lawn, the end times will be upon us.
I don't understand. If they are on his porch then they are not on his lawn. Or is this some kind of so-con thinking that's not suppose to make sense?
Posted by: Case at January 24, 2014 04:02 AM (o00SF)
Posted by: runningrn at January 24, 2014 04:03 AM (o6g4X)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:04 AM (waJ+2)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 04:04 AM (E4MKN)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 08:02 AM (MPIX5)
When he gets like that it's my practice to just leave the thread and find something productive to do.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 04:04 AM (WRKdV)
Either the Republican Party wants a social conservative wing, or it's time for a divorce. The fact that the social conservatives haven't ALREADY walked away is a testament to their (our) loyalty, and a consistent application of principles to behaviors.
As for Ace, it's clear he has "issues" related to sex and politics. I'd suggest he find a way to work those out, but apparently that's what he does when he descends into the comments and starts these wars on his own blog.
Yes. He starts them.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 24, 2014 04:04 AM (BeSEI)
No, obviously we don't.
I am the ultimate sucker, I am primarily a FiCon Restrained Hawk with some socon and libertarian tendencies.
The GOP has accomplished not one of my objectives in being involved in a 1/4 century.
The Libertine FiCons in hold fiscal sanity hostage to their social preferences.
I can be ignored and run trillion dollar deficits just as easy under a Democrat as an Elephant and I understand why they are fucking me over as opposed to simply being enraged by it.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:04 AM (TE35l)
Apparently you haven't read much of Ace.
Posted by: GMan at January 24, 2014 04:05 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 04:05 AM (7kkQJ)
'Zactly.
If you're looking for the theologically flavored explanation, it's because he wants to be his own God.
Hey, we all want that. It's just that it really never works in the end. But everyone is free to discover that truism on their own. Just don't do it by tearing down everyone else's view.
Take it from a guy who's first Confession sounded something like..."It's been 37 years since my last Confession...."
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:05 AM (MPIX5)
Here's another spicy Spanish-blooded minx - Margarita Carmen Cancito. You know her better as Rita Hayworth:
http://tinyurl.com/y72rxj
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 04:06 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 04:06 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 04:06 AM (zOTsN)
Unfortunately, the hard-liners on both sides of social issues forget a few basics and thus alienate people who would otherwise be on their sides.
The worst failing is a tendency to demand a kind of moral absolutism that casts all unbelievers into Outer Darkness. I agree with a majority of SoCon stands, but do not see them as central political issues. No matter what the subject, warning sirens go off when I'm told that the government should be the enforcer, or indeed have any part in the issue.
Some True Conservatives make this mistake. They claim to want less government, but they want said government to control the use of drugs, buttsecks or what women do with their bodies.
I don't. Either way. Politicians do not and should not have the authority to control moral issues. On either side.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 24, 2014 04:07 AM (ff7/5)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:07 AM (waJ+2)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 04:07 AM (t3UFN)
Ace said that's not the real reason for our views - and that the real reason why we are for SoCon policies is because we're busybodies.
Oh, for fuck's sake. He must have been coming off a Val-U-Rite bender. Nobody can be that deliberately obtuse.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 04:07 AM (zF6Iw)
Dude, I take it you haven't been here all that long. Hang out a while and spend more time in that type of thread. The theme of the Aceian corpus is exactly that - hostility to faith.
Yes, he IS hostile to faith. No one faults him for that. What he is faulted for is how he expresses it.
And...flip your assertion around - because it's more accurate that way. He's hostile to faith because we don't share his views.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:09 AM (MPIX5)
posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 08:04 AM (E4MKN)
You think that was an attack? This is an attack:
Go gargle the shit out of Satan's ass, you maggot-ridden, pustulent, festering nickelfucker.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 04:09 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 08:07 AM (t3UFN)
That tank of nitrous oxide would have been very helpful.....
I'm just sayin'.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2014 04:09 AM (QFxY5)
Democrat midterms strategy is now in evidence: No matter the opponent, they will be framed as being of the Tea Party and dismissed as too radical or crazee or fundie or more of the same-same political infighting.
And this is true for any establishment or moderate or reach acrost the aisle types. They can try fighting that but if you're explaining, you're losing.
Posted by: Bigby's Waving Hands at January 24, 2014 04:09 AM (3ZtZW)
Who's attacking Ace? Ace has a rather voluminous interaction with even we the lowly SoCon Holy Warriors. It's been made quite plain not just here but in the GOP at large that SoCons have NO representation, no should they expect ever to get ANY of their social preferences codified no matter how miniscule...
like say matching Fwance's 24 week cutoff on abortion.
I *we* get it, message received.
Funny thing is I castigate myself for being pretty libertine, and I have NEVER advocated turning schools into the indoctrination labs the left have engaged in.
The FiCon uber alles(bitter laughter) wing is not bothered at all by the Liberal Domination of "non-partisan" govt jobs.
Since the name of the game is not one supposes dismantling this borderline Marxist utopia we're building I am free to use the Democrats in the way the gays and the potheads have.
No sweat, and all *my shiny* is is empowering the donks to be donks.
I can literally vote straight ticket D and get what I want and no further argument or begging for the GOP to address ANY of the real problems the nation faces are ever needed again.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:09 AM (TE35l)
No seriously. No shit. That's what he said.
Please don't make me go back and find that exact post.
Ask thunderb, she was there too.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:10 AM (MPIX5)
@156 We spend too much time attacking each other. Way too much.
Well, President Wonderful and the Donks haven't given us much lately.
Posted by: Case at January 24, 2014 04:10 AM (o00SF)
Now now Bigby, if we just yell Ogabecare with the muddled "we'll do SOMETHING" message we'll do gangbusters...just like in 2012.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:10 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 04:11 AM (zOTsN)
You....ummmm....you need an assistant?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:12 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: --- at January 24, 2014 04:12 AM (MMC8r)
It's more nuanced than that but his assertion is "your anxiety does not motivate me", and I retorted you misunderstand..welcome to Team Let It Burn...wonder if IronGrandpa and the rest of the "Never to be torn asunder" brigade will give you the grief they give people like me Ace?
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:13 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 04:13 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 08:02 AM (MPIX5)
His intellectual flaccidity is startling, especially because he is often perceptive.
And....my stance against drug legalization is based on a healthy fear for the sanctity of my wallet in addition to the social costs. But he insists that it's because I don't want other people to have fun.
Why is this a complicated idea?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2014 04:14 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 07:44 AM (zOTsN)
Neither am I , but Ding, ding, ding! Give this Moron a cigar.
The left capitalized on the 47% comment, which was a fiscal issue.
Plus Romney did not jump on TFG in the 2nd and 3rd debates the way he did in the first one.
That and some voter fraud was all that was needed.
Maybe I missed it - what so-con issue destroyed the Romney campaign?
Posted by: Marybeth at January 24, 2014 04:14 AM (zFUKI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 04:14 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 24, 2014 04:14 AM (54dkR)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 04:14 AM (olDqf)
I'm about to have a project in Newark.
Where are you again?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:14 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 04:15 AM (zF6Iw)
I have tax code changes to cipher out, but you nailed it.
The media overtly is not subject to market influences and revels in its uneven playing field.
The GOP doesn't give a shit, and neither do I because if I did I would have to declare them my mortal enemy.
FM 3-24 explains what you need to do to hostile media in a Counter-Insurgency environment.
We are suffering an insurgency we refused to fight.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:15 AM (TE35l)
Counterpoint: You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
In this case, it seems like a knee-jerk hostility, and *no* amount of reason will help. See yesterday's thread where Lauren was trying to calmly explain things to him, and he just would. not. give. up.
Posted by: GMan at January 24, 2014 04:15 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 04:15 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 24, 2014 04:16 AM (54dkR)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 24, 2014 04:16 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 04:16 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 04:16 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: --- at January 24, 2014 08:12 AM (MMC8r)
Exactly. And one more thing: if the SoCon positions are so fucking bad, then why doesn't the GOP take them out of the platform? Every four years they have the opportunity to end this bait and switch where they have all these things in the platform which the party has no interest in pursuing when in power. But they keep them there for some dumbass reason and then don't understand why nobody trusts them. Total.Fucking.Insanity.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 04:17 AM (WRKdV)
He still is. He just has a blind spot on this.
We ALL have a blind spot.
AmishDude's is lawyers.
Yours is Red Sox fans.
Mine is people with poor reasoning skills.
...and Jets fans.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:17 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 04:17 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: rickl at January 24, 2014 04:17 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 34 days until spring training at January 24, 2014 04:17 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 04:18 AM (zOTsN)
Exactly. George Stephiwhatshisname thought he was being slick and clever to throw that contraceptives question into one of the Republican debates, and it pretty much got brushed aside, but the left was all aflutter with it. Thinking they HAD those rotten Republicans, with their God-bothering, and bedroom snooping.
It was a non-issue. Except to the left. And people on "our" side who are very uncomfortable with having social conservatives in their tent.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 24, 2014 04:18 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 04:18 AM (E4MKN)
FWIW, I don't believe for an instant that Ace is "hostile to faith". I do very much believe that faith and religion were never part of his upbringing or his family to any great degree beyond childhood exposure.
So its not that he hates your prayers or your faith, but going to church and praying publicly are just things not done, not forbidden just not done.
There may be additional beliefs he holds that stops him from attending or believing, but that's the beginning.
Posted by: Bigby's Waving Hands at January 24, 2014 04:19 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Registered Voter at January 24, 2014 04:19 AM (nUbHY)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 04:20 AM (N8oJ5)
It makes the solution so much easier for "saving the nation"...
We leave the GOP the one day out of every 4 years they give a shit...
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:20 AM (TE35l)
You sound like my relatives in SC. They are ready to let the enemy mass and then hit 'em with arty. The problem I see is what if we have no arty? Then it's Francis Marion time. Which you can deal with since you are younger than me. My dispute with our politician 'side' (not mine, which are Gohmert and Cruz, well Cornyn is a democrat) is like Robt. E. Lee said. 'The congress in Richmond just sits around eating boiled peanuts and chewing tobacco instead of sending us supplies'.
Posted by: Erowmero at January 24, 2014 04:20 AM (OONaw)
The Cure of Ars!
Vianney is one of my favorite saints.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:20 AM (MPIX5)
Are you fucking retarded? It's a topic when Ace makes a post about it.
And when Ace makes a post about it, 9 times out of 10, it's an attack on those vile busy-body socons.
Posted by: GMan at January 24, 2014 04:21 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 04:21 AM (zOTsN)
Why don't you just dial that down a notch. No one here, or last night said - or thinks Ace is a horrible person.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:22 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 08:18 AM (E4MKN)
Ummm....what blog have you been reading? Ace's stance against religion is a reasonable topic for discussion, and in fact, Ace joins in with gusto.
Hyperbole rarely works around here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2014 04:22 AM (QFxY5)
Socons who threaten to walk away should do so. See you on the ash heap of history...
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 08:18 AM (E4MKN)
Telling us what to do? Who's the fucking busybody?
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 04:23 AM (WRKdV)
::: mumble mutter mumble :::
Backatcha.
VERY happy to see Rex Ryan back for two years though.
Because Bellichick beats him like a rented mule.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:23 AM (MPIX5)
I've been here since it got any love form LGF champ.
People have been throwing my faith on the ash-heap of history for 2000 years, 8,000 if you count our Jewish Cousins...
The Copts die for their faith, and our nation empowers the fuckers who kill them.
You think I owe this nation more faith than my God?
Guess again.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:23 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 24, 2014 04:23 AM (54dkR)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Ilya-Kisaradov-photography-3.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 04:23 AM (N8oJ5)
It's the borderline Luap Nor types asking Ace to go back to easy listening topics...
Ace'll do what he wants, and the horde will either endure or it won't.
Not in my or the busybody's power it is in Ace and the Cobs, and NSA's.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:25 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 04:25 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 04:25 AM (+fNrM)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 04:25 AM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 34 days until spring training at January 24, 2014 04:26 AM (u8GsB)
@206. " I'm not saying Ace is a horrible person at all."
So Ace is NOT a Jets fan. good. Wait. He's not one of those loser Giant fans, is he?
Posted by: Case at January 24, 2014 04:26 AM (o00SF)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 04:26 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 24, 2014 04:26 AM (54dkR)
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 04:26 AM (VtjlW)
It's funny isn't it? We are given heat for being Crusader busybodies and I conversed until 2AM with an agnostic opining on the Godhead with no disrespect levied....
disagree a millimeter and we get tossed on the ash-heap of history.....
"tolerance"
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:26 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 04:27 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:27 AM (0HooB)
Annnnnnnd NOW you know why I'm Catholic. ;-)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:28 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 04:28 AM (E4MKN)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 24, 2014 04:28 AM (54dkR)
That's an idiotic argument. My public SCHOOL separated everyone by gender when "health" class came around.
Posted by: GMan at January 24, 2014 04:29 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 08:21 AM (zOTsN)
Typical internecine conflict. The Republican party is in disarray.
Posted by: MSNBC at January 24, 2014 04:29 AM (QFxY5)
Maybe so. People lurk. Change nics.
Generally though, they aren't quite this blind to the "history" of this place.
Oh well. It takes all kinds, I guess.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 24, 2014 04:30 AM (BeSEI)
You're escalating and claiming things not said by anyone here.
This is exactly the sort of overreaction that gets up everyone's nose.
We say he was argumentative and you say we're calling him a horrible person.
I don't see you around here much so I feel comfortable in asking that you stfu or stop inflating things said into some fairy tale picture you have in your head of us assaulting Saint Ace while he valiantly fights the good fight against evil.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 04:30 AM (LSDdO)
"The fact that you belong to a large group, for example the 50% of the US population that is conservative or Republican, does not give you safety in numbers. Within this large group of millions are a much smaller number of key leadership nodes. They are the nodes that matter, the top of the hierarchy mandated by DunbarÂ’s Number.
If you can control, corrupt or even bait those nodes you can reduce the entire group to impotence. You can effectively decapitate it, a strategy applied not only to al-Qaeda but apparently also by the IRS in its hunt of Tea Party and Republican fundraising groups....You donÂ’t have to clobber all Muslims and Republicans. You just have to clobber the key nodes and the rest will mill around like leaderless ants."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lr5bvzfPosted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2014 04:30 AM (POpqt)
Those who think Ace is a horrible hostile person should start their own blogs.
Socons who threaten to walk away should do so. See you on the ash heap of history...
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 08:18 AM (E4MKN)
I have my own blog. But I like it here.
And good luck trying to win elections without socons, then.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 04:30 AM (zF6Iw)
I'm sorry, but all those of you acting like ace has no support for his position? You are wrong.
AtC, what you're saying is that Ace took the view of, sorry 'bout this, a tiny minority of American Christianity, and then tarred every nook and cranny of American Christianity with that same brush.
Not exactly a Great Moment in Conservative Debate®
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:31 AM (MPIX5)
I hope you warm up, cold is not fun for people who don't love it.
I offer the following rebuttal points:
1) Mike Huckadoodle has NO power, further he is loathed by as many Christians as he attracts.
2) I must need severe reading comprehension, yes you can take those words and come up with the meaning being imputed, but a fair contextual reading was mocking the notion that the government HAD to intervene or else the female public is ill-served.
You have no idea how dirty defending the fat asshole makes me feel.
Alex, it is all good. Message received, do NOT express any opinions on any social issues, and do not DARE take issue with public schools sexualizing 6-9 year olds.
Not a problem, of course that being the case given the GOP's limp efforts at Fiscal Sanity and mealy mouthedness on corruption why am I voting GOP again?
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:31 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2014 04:31 AM (olDqf)
Ginger and fire.
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Ilya-Kisaradov-photography-6.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 04:31 AM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:31 AM (GufPw)
I doubt it was Ace's intent to form a religious blog. Yet, it is a constant topic.
If speaking about religion makes you uncomfortable, I am quite certain the Hot Air button on your computer is fully functional.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 04:32 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 04:32 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Fritz at January 24, 2014 04:32 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 24, 2014 08:28 AM (E4MKN)
Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate the suggestion that my reading of your incredibly nuanced and complex comment was flawed. In the future I will be more careful when reading your writing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2014 04:32 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 04:32 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 04:33 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 04:33 AM (t3UFN)
Especially considering in the body of Huckadoodle's "work" on the topic his point is sexuality is not a state matter, the direct opposite of what is being implied.
I literally give up. The left gets to fuck with the social fabric with impunity and simply trying to say STOP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD OR VISHNU SLOW THE FUCK DOWN AND LET THE DUST SETTLE!
Is American Tollyban.
"Ok"
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:33 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 04:34 AM (N8oJ5)
I thought it was a cliff notes version of Tepid for Morons who can't be MN nice?
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:34 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:34 AM (GufPw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 24, 2014 08:32 AM (t3UFN)
Indeed.
Now, as I was saying to CBD just the other day, you really don't want to use 120mm canister in the open. When you fire it down city streets the walls tend to magnify the effects of the round.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:34 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 34 days until spring training at January 24, 2014 04:35 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 24, 2014 04:35 AM (60Vyp)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 04:35 AM (+fNrM)
I'm sorry, but all those of you acting like ace has no support for his position? You are wrong.
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 08:26 AM (VtjlW)
I would never say that. I kow plenty of people raised in the atmosphere you describe. But had I been there, I would have pointed out to Ace that the Catholic Church, at least, does not see sex as an intrinsic evil.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 04:36 AM (zF6Iw)
Go away arguin' batin'!
//Frito Plover esq Moron Ombudsman
You can't force people to get eyes up and move to task JJ....
if the battle is a rout unass the AO and start over.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:36 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 04:36 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: Case at January 24, 2014 04:36 AM (o00SF)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 04:36 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:37 AM (GufPw)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:37 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 04:37 AM (+fNrM)
Huckadoodle is the perfect Karl Rove candidate circa 2000...
No simpler way of putting it.
I am DONE with fake Fiscal Hawks, and Bastards who wrap their Marxism in God's cloak.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:37 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 34 days until spring training at January 24, 2014 04:37 AM (u8GsB)
You know what...that entire comment was extremely well written.
Posted by: GMan at January 24, 2014 04:37 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: --- at January 24, 2014 04:38 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 04:38 AM (VtjlW)
Nobody puts Ace in the corner!
Posted by: Johnny Castle[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:38 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 24, 2014 04:38 AM (5tpzF)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 24, 2014 04:38 AM (102Hx)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 04:39 AM (fWAjv)
Meh. I don't know why I care, it's not my party anymore.
Posted by: mugiwara at January 24, 2014 04:39 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:40 AM (GufPw)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 08:36 AM (zOTsN)[/i]
It was mentally painful to have to admit he didn't fuck up yesterday as he has constantly before that.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 04:40 AM (WRKdV)
Correct, Ace has a pinata he HAS to hit.
It's ok, mine is collectivism.
Mike Huckadoodle is along with Luap Nor the first occupant in my "Fuck you I'd die before voting for these two fucks GOP" seat.
Chrispy Chreme is there now unless Huck runs again then the fatasses can share.
That I feel the need to defend the asshole stuns me, because I hate him but over the course of his actions as Governor of AR coupled with his public speaking on the issue he simply feels the Feds should butt the fuck out.
You know like 92% of this blog?
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:40 AM (TE35l)
And you will always continue to do so.
So will I.
So will everyone.
Completely conforming oneself to Christ doesn't occur here. Ask Mother Theresa.
But you are always a reasoned voice and you treat people better than they oftentimes deserve.
Posted by: Johnny Castle[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:41 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 04:41 AM (+fNrM)
No one was saying she couldn't fuck the whole 82nd Airborne. We were saying other people--particularly the (formerly) Catholic institution she was enrolled in--shouldn't be forced to pay for her pills and shots and abortions because she felt she shouldn't have to cover any expenses that arise from her "lifestyle choices."
And that's got nothing to do with "don't want people to have sex." Stripping the wages of Person C because Person A wants to give free shit to Person B to limits the ability to C to pay their own way through life and move ahead in the world, essentially depriving C of their right to life/liberty/pursuit of happiness.
But no, let's beat the shit out of C for not wanting B to have fun.
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 04:41 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Woneslow Gippless at January 24, 2014 04:41 AM (4O6yv)
Exactly, my money, my time, and my passion can just as easily be wasted elsewhere or used to buy maneuver room....
I can have a fucked up limp-dicked failure of a fiscally sane party a lot cheaper and have NEVER tried to inflict my religious views via law unlike the AGW cult and Regs.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:42 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 04:42 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:42 AM (GufPw)
Though suffering last night at a writers group this geeky dude with speech impediment read a chapter of his book was well worse than water boarding. Wanted to gnaw a paw off to escape but that would have been ill-mannered of me. Plus messy and be short a writing paw afterwards.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 04:42 AM (N8oJ5)
Maybe he just ran out of baby batter.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:42 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:42 AM (0HooB)
If you fire it near perfectly down the northern portal near the civic center, you just might be able to uncover some of that lizard gold hidden in the underground shafts of LA.
Posted by: Fritz at January 24, 2014 04:43 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 04:43 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 04:43 AM (+fNrM)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 34 days until spring training at January 24, 2014 04:44 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:44 AM (GufPw)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 04:44 AM (fWAjv)
AGGGGH OH THANK GOD.
Seriously, my work network has got to STOP calling this place a social networking site. It's only social networking in that it helps me identify people around whom it is okay to say "cocksucking motherfuckers" without feeling embarrassed.
Also? FREE DINESH D'SOUZA.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:44 AM (4df7R)
OK, fellow 'rons, I think I'm going to bow out for a while. I want to clear off my desk and skip out early, if I can.
Have a great weekend, everyone.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2014 04:45 AM (zF6Iw)
Quite, and you LITERALLY cannot make the Libertine Right happy Heather.
The cause celebre is now Pot, so I am willing to embrace total legalization and even SUBSIDIZE despite how many hundreds or thousands of my posts raging at subsidy the Libertine's good time and it is STILL not enough because they know, CORRECTLY, that I think they are idiots engaged in intellectual dishonesty.
People do not want wins, they want to force my approval and esteem.
Sorry, not for sale.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:45 AM (TE35l)
Here, eat the Blondie and loosen up a little, Cupcake.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:45 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 34 days until spring training at January 24, 2014 04:45 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 04:45 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 04:45 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 24, 2014 04:45 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 04:45 AM (+fNrM)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 24, 2014 04:46 AM (5tpzF)
Is there something you need to tell us?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:46 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 04:46 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 04:47 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:47 AM (GufPw)
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 04:48 AM (WRKdV)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:48 AM (GufPw)
I like bacon but not maple. But I'd give it a try.
Try this.
http://tinyurl.com/lnbx5x
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:49 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 04:49 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 04:49 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 08:46 AM (MPIX5)
Yes. It's too cold to trampoline. :`(
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:49 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Humanity's Penis at January 24, 2014 04:50 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 04:50 AM (PYAXX)
I should have stayed passed on it.
I gave a brief volley in the "Designated Heroine Windy Davis" thread...
There is NO fight, it is a con.
Obama is building a Federal Power bomb and no major force on the right is saying "whoa" but some Pundits.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:50 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:50 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 04:51 AM (N8oJ5)
No herbs all all.
None. Promise.
.....
Straight up Rohypnol
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:51 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 24, 2014 04:51 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:51 AM (GufPw)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 04:51 AM (PYAXX)
Maybe he can come back to the GOP and we can nominate him in 2016 and the media can discover how loathsome he really is....?
Hell I'll waste my primary vote just to watch the whiplash at MSNBC...
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:52 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 04:52 AM (zOTsN)
I think he did that because of the hours of relentless pounding by the Artillery Battery of the Cotton Mather Brigade.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:53 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 24, 2014 04:53 AM (JQuNB)
See YOU are looking at this in the wrong way Allen....
turn that frown upside down mon ami.
This is not an extinction level event half-empty situation, this is an extinction level event half-full situation.
Ace is on Team Let It Burn....
the burn *is* coming.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:53 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 04:54 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2014 04:54 AM (YIZv0)
Irish Coffee for everybody!
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 08:52 AM (zOTsN)
*swigs* Aaaah, much better. Thanks!
Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 04:54 AM (DrWcr)
You know I'm a million times as humble as thou art.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 04:55 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 04:55 AM (GufPw)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 08:53 AM (MPIX5)
Ok, now you've convinced me to check it out...
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 04:55 AM (WRKdV)
That Increase Mather is a hell of a gunner Sean....
"Gentlemen to your Bibles and your Enfilade Fire Hasty Positions!"
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:55 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 04:55 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 04:55 AM (N8oJ5)
I don't know...depends on how you think of it. My guess is their reasoning was "it'll be easier to teach this if the boys and girls aren't distracted by each other."
Which is a polite was of saying the same thing as "tempted to sin".
Posted by: GMan at January 24, 2014 04:55 AM (sxq57)
Nah no idea at all...that HR 'ette sure is a sweetheart though.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 04:55 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 08:53 AM (MPIX5)
Which I thought was funny as hell.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 04:55 AM (DrWcr)
http://t.co/UZ3WmoPjkX
*settles in with coffee and donut to watch the show*
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 08:49 AM (hO8IJ)
*STEAM POURS OUT OF EARS*
G-D FUCKING DAMMIT. WE ARE NOT THAT COW FUCKING, GRANOLA EATING, LEFTWING SHITPILE OF CRAZY STATE OF VERMONT, OKAY? Jeezy fucking creezy, how frigging hard is it to remember that NH falls between VT and Maine? Huh? How hard is it to whip out a fucking MAP and look and say, "Oh, it's not the one that looks like a stick of chewing gum. It's the one that looks like a keyhole. Okay."
OMG.
FUCK YOU, Politico. Hire a g-ddamn intern that knows his/her fucking ABCs next time, you worthless pile of shit!
...
*cough*
It's been a long week. As you can tell, I am not in a good mood.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:56 AM (4df7R)
BINGO!
That's when I left that thread. When I saw that no matter how much I said that I wasn't saying what he was saying I was saying, he still insisted that that's what I was saying. Can't argue that set of conditions.
I think that if I had renounced all religion on the spot, he still would've told me that okay but you still think that way. He would not let go his preconceived notion of what I was saying.
I take full responsibility for being unable to counter that claim. He may well somehow be correct but I don't have the skills to convince him otherwise even though that's what I feel is correct.
Oh. Well. I'm pretty stubborn and it's a testament to my respect for Ace that I quit arguing even though I felt wronged and misunderstood and saw him doing it to others.
I usually can't resist an argument under those conditions.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 04:56 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 04:56 AM (zOTsN)
It's been a long week. As you can tell, I am not in a good mood.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at January 24, 2014 08:56 AM (4df7R)
Sombody needs a hug.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 04:57 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 04:57 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 04:57 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 04:57 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 04:57 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 24, 2014 04:57 AM (Qh0T+)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 34 days until spring training at January 24, 2014 04:58 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 04:58 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2014 04:58 AM (YIZv0)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 04:58 AM (7kkQJ)
http://bit.ly/1av1oDs
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 08:49 AM (VtjlW)
*wibble* Thank you.
*crawls into Karl Urban's lap*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:59 AM (4df7R)
Thanks! Much better now.
In other news, the US Attny who indicted Dinesh D'Souza is a real up-and-comer:
"The U.S. attorney, Preet Bharara, is a politically connected Obama appointee who is being talked about as a potential replacement for Attorney General Eric Holder, assuming Holder ever resigns. Before his appointment, Bharara worked for Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and helped lead the Senate Judiciary Committee investigation into the controversial firing of U.S. attorneys by the Bush administration"
Yeah, this has Obama's fingerprints all over it.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2014 04:59 AM (POpqt)
Posted by: Col. Emerson Liscum, 9th Infantry Regiment, Puritan Expeditionary Force at January 24, 2014 04:59 AM (JDIKC)
You know I'm a million times as humble as thou art.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 08:55 AM (hO8IJ)
------
337 Anyone see Heather Radish lately? She change her nic?
Posted by: Regular Moron at January 24, 2014 08:55 AM (oGrEy)
Is that ironic, or just serendipitous?
(Also, "Amish Paradise" FTW!)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:59 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 04:59 AM (PYAXX)
*shoves Square Donuts through USB port*
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 04:59 AM (hO8IJ)
198
FWIW, I don't believe for an instant that Ace is "hostile to faith".
neither do I. If he were, he'd be frothing at the mouth about it like my daughter. *sigh* He seems to be very much worried that it's the so-cons who are destroying electoral chances.
I remember my father, who was for his time a weirdo - a Mick from the Irish ghettoes in Manhattan who voted for Nixon over Kennedy (which got him ostracized from his family), an avid reader of National Review (we had those mags everywhere in our house), and who ranted against Johnson, Medicare, and Medicaid, and the decline of the culture.
I remember him being despondent after the Goldwater debacle, worried that the Dems had presidential elections sewn up into the foreseeable future because of the lopsided Johnson victory. The only bright spots he could see on the horizon were the young conservative bucks like him at the 1964 GOP convention and an actor named Reagan who gave an inspiring speech there.
If you heard Dad today, many would have pegged him as a so-con. And I guess he was, in many respects, other than he heavily distrusted most politicians.
but he was a fiscal conservative (a CPA who heavily reined in spending at the non-profit hospital he worked for), a military hawk (Army guy), and a devout Catholic (not a fake one like Pelosi, Biden, and the Secretariat of State) who was vehemently anti-abortion.
I believe many Americans out there are like him, even today.
Dad really believed Reagan could pull the country together behind the beliefs he espoused all his life.
And of course Reagan found a way to galvanize the so-cons, the fi-cons, the hawks AND blue-collar Democrats into 2 huge electoral victories.
Why couldn't we do the same? Because we are so balkanized and pointing fingers so much we can't find and get behind someone early enough to fight through the BS?
What we're missing is a leader who appeals to all of these factions in some manner.
Dad was a big Sarah Palin fan until the day he died. He believed she was Reagan in a skirt. Although I disagree with him on that because she is too shrill and has been too heavily damaged.
I had heard that Ted Cruz is going around quietly and privately, appealing to conservative leaders about uniting behind candidates for the midterms and for 2016, not making a splash about it. Whether it's true or not . . . and if it is true, if it's for him or other candidates, who knows?
But if the MFM and GOP so-called leaders and their toadies are making it plain who they are backing, why can't we? Why do we have to have so many "conservative" candidates in the primaries that they split the traditionalist votes and give the wins to the one moderate candidate in the race, who always happens to be the GOP the MFM backs - until the primary race is over? When will we learn?
Posted by: Marybeth at January 24, 2014 05:00 AM (zFUKI)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 05:00 AM (fWAjv)
In other news, the US Attny who indicted Dinesh D'Souza is a real up-and-comer:
We are truly living in a banana republic.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 05:00 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 05:00 AM (+fNrM)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 05:01 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 05:01 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 05:01 AM (GufPw)
Posted by: NCKate at January 24, 2014 05:01 AM (x6fKj)
"Imagine a long, twisty highway with no guardrails, and with all the speed limit signs taken down."
Compare that to the current state of things. And yes, libertarians can't seem to grasp that concept for some reason.
And it's a balmy, sunny -6 outside, racing up to an alleged high of 21 (HA! I believe when I feel it...). But hey, at least the Ohio isn't frozen over.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at January 24, 2014 05:01 AM (lJaja)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 05:02 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 24, 2014 05:02 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 05:02 AM (PYAXX)
DC, where a few flurries will panic the masses. Or see idiots do 80 on the Beltway with several inches of snow on the road.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 05:02 AM (N8oJ5)
on the one hand you were probably correct in sitting it out Fenlon, on the other he has a decent rapport with you on such things often.
He and I have had good repartee on the role of faith in preventing cargo cults and magic thinking in politics. I am confident he knows I respect his writing ability, and intellect. His salvation or lack thereof is his business and I have never been a fire and brimstone evangelist.
The notion that EoJ, MP4, and I are the Puritan Brigade reborn is so funny it beggars comprehension.
I freely admit my inadequacy as an icon of faith and piety.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:02 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Alex Jones at January 24, 2014 05:02 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 09:00 AM (fWAjv)
There needs to be a KARL Urban dictionary. In which every entry that is about something good is defined as "Karl Urban." And everything that is about something bad is defined as "Not Karl Urban."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:02 AM (4df7R)
HRatAOSHQ.
It's a long story involving squalling harpies who demanded I give up my social media accounts "because we're your family!!!" and then didn't bother to call or e-mail on my birthday or when I was sick for three weeks, much less chat with my every day...like the people who live in my computer do.
Ho-hum.
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 05:03 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 05:03 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at January 24, 2014 05:03 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 05:04 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 05:04 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 24, 2014 05:04 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 05:04 AM (GufPw)
Yes! And it must include pictures. Lots of pictures...
Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2014 05:04 AM (POpqt)
They refuse to be happy because even in our many losses on maintaining the guardrails it is not enough we lose Cap'n we must be THRILLED we lost because "freedom."
Can't do that, so here we sit.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:04 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 05:05 AM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 05:05 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 24, 2014 05:05 AM (JXkyA)
Lie down with donks, get up with fleas and a sore butt...(NTTIAWWT?)
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:06 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2014 05:06 AM (YIZv0)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 05:06 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 05:07 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 09:02 AM (N8oJ5)
In defense of the DC metroplex - for which I have nothing but scorn - if something stupid is being done on the roads, it's being done by someone with Maryland plates.
Guaranteed.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:07 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: mugiwara at January 24, 2014 05:07 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: --- at January 24, 2014 05:07 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 05:07 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 05:08 AM (WRKdV)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 05:08 AM (GufPw)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:08 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 05:09 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 24, 2014 05:09 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 05:09 AM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 05:09 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 34 days until spring training at January 24, 2014 05:09 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 05:10 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 05:10 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 05:10 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 05:11 AM (N8oJ5)
"Imagine a long, twisty highway with no guardrails, and with all the speed limit signs taken down."
I liked C.S. Lewis' analogy to ships in a fleet.
http://tinyurl.com/m6rcn99
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:11 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: jwest at January 24, 2014 05:11 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 05:11 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Fritz at January 24, 2014 05:12 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 05:12 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at January 24, 2014 05:12 AM (qFpRI)
We are truly living in a banana republic.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 09:00 AM (DrWcr)
I had to turn off Jeff Kuhner this morning when he was talking about the D'Souza decision. It was making me SO. FURIOUS. I could barely drive.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:12 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 05:12 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 05:13 AM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 24, 2014 05:13 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 09:04 AM (zOTsN)
Speaking of the JEF, has anybody noticed that he's repeating that "I've got a pen and I've got a phone" line just as robotically as he did that dumbfuck "car in a ditch" line? It's as if in that shotglass sized brain between those giant earflaps, there's only enough room to hold a paragraph or so of imbecilic statements which the fucking retard will repeat like Mika the birdbrained parrot. If the Repukes had a hair on their pansy asses they'd be mocking that shit between now and the state of the union address to see if they can shame him into shutting the fuck up about it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2014 05:13 AM (WRKdV)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 24, 2014 05:13 AM (OCBPC)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 24, 2014 05:14 AM (SUKHu)
Were I thin-skinned I'd allow myself hurt at being painted as a Paladin or Cleric in D+D terms...
I am far too doubting to be be either.
Faith is supposed to be a private matter, but we have the left wanting to have their pet faith(Islam) and attacking the practitioners of faith they hate(Evangelic Xians) and this odd swarm of idiocy...all while practicing their Evangelical Secular Gaia Worship Faith.
I take solace in the fact we are by the nature of our faith and the flaws of mankind destined to suffer, and it is simply looking to be our relatively minor turn at persecution.
My scourging will be in all likelihood nothing compared to the Genocide practiced against our Coptic brothers and sisters and I should strive to bear it nobly.
It is NOT supposed to be THIS way HERE though ma'am.
All the best,
sven
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:14 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: YourPoopyPants at January 24, 2014 05:14 AM (Y/HG5)
Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 24, 2014 05:14 AM (JXkyA)
The JWest GOP is a guy swimming in sharks happily cutting off his limbs to "make the sharks happy"...
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:15 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 24, 2014 05:15 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 05:16 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 24, 2014 05:16 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 05:16 AM (VtjlW)
Right that Rick Santorum he sure was setting the horde and nay Xianity as a whole on fire eh?
Your point is duly noted Mr. Pants.
Thank you.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:16 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: HR at January 24, 2014 08:59 AM (hO8IJ)
is that you?
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 34 days until spring training at January 24, 2014 09:09 AM (u8GsB)
No, that's me.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:16 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: jwest at January 24, 2014 05:16 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: YourPoopyPants at January 24, 2014 09:14 AM (Y/HG5)
The quality of the nic matches precisely the quality of the argument.
Which means that's an awesome sock.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:16 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 05:17 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 05:17 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 24, 2014 05:17 AM (hpVGZ)
Uh, wonder who thinks is more extreme: GOP of Islam.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2014 05:18 AM (POpqt)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 05:18 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 24, 2014 05:18 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Adam at January 24, 2014 05:19 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:19 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 05:19 AM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 24, 2014 05:19 AM (OCBPC)
Hey sport, the IRS is weaponizing under the force of Regulation this week to codify their assault on political liberty.
The GOP gonna be assed to be bothered?
Nope.
I'll give a fuck about the GOP when the GOP gives a fuck about stopping the left at all.
I think my calender on fuck giving is pretty clear for the next "ever"...
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:19 AM (TE35l)
Basically, selfish children with badly ordered priorities, and a serious case of tunnel vision... that covers about... 97% of them right there.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at January 24, 2014 05:20 AM (lJaja)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 24, 2014 05:20 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Adam at January 24, 2014 05:20 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 05:20 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 24, 2014 05:20 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 05:20 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: jwest at January 24, 2014 05:21 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 24, 2014 05:21 AM (7ObY1)
Ah but see he *was* a Democrat plant and as such he thinks he has PET Muslims b/c Ogabe aids them...
what he fails to grasp is Ogabe himself was only pro-gay in the last 13 months....
ergo
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:21 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 24, 2014 05:21 AM (hpVGZ)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 24, 2014 05:21 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 24, 2014 05:21 AM (VtjlW)
So he's suing Humana because his premiums went up due to BarryCare. The first shots in ending private insurance companies.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2014 05:22 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 24, 2014 05:22 AM (OCBPC)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 05:22 AM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 24, 2014 05:23 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: jwest at January 24, 2014 05:23 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 09:15 AM (TE35l)
And he's p!ssed that the SoCons won't join in and "compromise" by contributing their limbs.
And I don't care what the voters (who have been indoctrinated for too long) think the message from the SoCons is. I don't care that it means we lose elections.
Better that than compromise our beliefs for the fleeting CHANCE at a "win". (that turns out to be a loss as the GOP immediately repudiates any and all statements said during the election and goes off cementing their hold on power and their non aggression pact with the Donks.)
kfuf that.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 05:23 AM (LSDdO)
http://www.ufunk.net/street-art/graffiti-on-girls-2013-calendar/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 24, 2014 05:23 AM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 05:23 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Wsjet at January 24, 2014 05:23 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2014 05:23 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 24, 2014 05:23 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 24, 2014 05:24 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2014 05:25 AM (YIZv0)
Posted by: Adam at January 24, 2014 05:25 AM (Aif/5)
Often yes, I was and am in awe of the attitude that expecting economic liberty to precede intoxicant one is a morally indefensible position.
"Ok champ, I'll wait over here until we have to reissue the orders to the MA colonists to work damn it."
The folly of thinking "this time it'll be different we're smarter than those other people!" never fails to amuse...
All of this has happened before and it all will happen again and again
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:25 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 24, 2014 05:26 AM (KuUy9)
Posted by: jwest at January 24, 2014 05:26 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Jimmy Lesalvia at January 24, 2014 05:26 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Sigmund Freud at January 24, 2014 05:27 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at January 24, 2014 05:27 AM (lJaja)
@ 90 - "So, just as gay marriage is not important to most voters, neither is abortion."
So....I guess folks won't mind if, when we get back into office, we weave a little rollback of these things into the process then, eh?
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 24, 2014 05:27 AM (YYJjz)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at January 24, 2014 05:27 AM (HVff2)
ergo
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 09:21 AM (TE35l)
He's pro-gay for pay.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 05:28 AM (DrWcr)
Just can't fathom how people such as this guy and the Code Pink freaks actually prefer the Muslims (and work with them!) to American conservatives. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that, but...that frenemy would lop your head off (or stone you, or throw you off a building) a split second after you've outlived your usefulness to their cause. And we're the delusional ones. Sure, OK. Whatever.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2014 05:28 AM (POpqt)
You keep saying "us". Is there a mouse in your pocket?
Or do you think somehow you are in some sort of pact with others for the purpose of gaining a majority so that the inimical policies of the left can be repealed or at least defanged?
If so then explain WHY you all haven't been able to once pass any of the actions the we SoCons have been asking for for years?
NOT ONE.
You all couldn't even get the nerve to defund the CPB (pbs, npr etc) or that execrable agency of fiscal waste and feces the NEA (not the Nat Edu Assoc the Nat Endow Arts)?
The GOP has pretty much been a paper tiger when it comes to SoCon issues. So tell me again about how we're an US?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 05:28 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:29 AM (0HooB)
I'm tired of the fucking cop out by a bunch of right leaning TV addicts.
You GOP elected?
Every fucking time you are on media live you answer EVERYTHING with a blast at Obama about the IRS being weaponized...100% no deviation.
Right leaning pundit?
Forgive me if I never buy another of your shit books if you can't be assed to use that chair to attack this tyranny.
End of fucking story.
'til then again...."gives a fuck?" all out bud
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:29 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Caliban at January 24, 2014 05:29 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, SGT - Cotton Mather Purity Death Squad (M) at January 24, 2014 05:30 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2014 05:30 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2014 05:30 AM (7kkQJ)
Mechanized?????
I thought for sure it would have been "Mountain"
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:31 AM (MPIX5)
Posted by: webworker at January 24, 2014 05:31 AM (13IVx)
In a rational world with a reasonable political adversary you would be correct.
However the donks are not reasonable. They will (and have) taken "reasonable" regulations and turned them into de facto registration and gun possession prevention schemes. And it recently is beginning to get disassembled.
So take your "reasonableness" and shove it. Being reasonable these days will get you put in jail and your life ruined.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 05:33 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: jwest at January 24, 2014 05:33 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 24, 2014 05:34 AM (qtpPt)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 24, 2014 08:50 AM (PYAXX)
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Have you ever seen Joe Bob Briggs while in Grapevine?
Posted by: Darth Randall at January 24, 2014 05:34 AM (Zswg6)
Same thing happened last time with 2 cans of Arrid XX.
Posted by: Chinaacid at January 24, 2014 05:34 AM (xU4FN)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, SGT - Cotton Mather Purity Death Squad (M) at January 24, 2014 05:36 AM (JDIKC)
You're with Myles Standish then?
I am with the Thomas Hooker Mounted Scolds...
Small but Mighty!
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:41 AM (TE35l)
I love how all the reasonableness and moderation disappears when confronted.
I haven't attacked you personally. Haven't swore at you. Yet you feel entitled to do both.
You probably expect that somehow this will aid you and your ilk.
Shows how fucking stupid YOU ARE.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 05:41 AM (LSDdO)
Such 'news' is designed to: (A) paint the Con in the worst possible light; (B) it's always out context, or an outright lie; (C) designed to foment lethal food fights within the Conservative ranks.
A complete video, or verified transcript, or nuthin'. I'd sooner take the word of a diseased, starving, crack-whore over 91% of the 'journalists' out there.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at January 24, 2014 05:43 AM (lJaja)
Apparently I missed a hell of a fight last night...
Look, the GOP needs to make a decision. Which are more valuable: the so-con votes or the fi-con votes? The Venn Diagram which shows them both continues to more further and further apart.
I'm a pretty rabid fi-con (even if I am a government employee) and only disagree by a matter of degrees on a few so-con issues. I'm not sure what label should be applied to me relative to my belief system, but I do know that harping only on fiscal issues is a loser. Evidence: Mitt Romney and pretty much every (R) candidate for the last 20 years.
The thing is though, harping only on social issues is a loser too. Hell, so-cons can't even get out of our own primaries. If you can't win over a majority of republicans, how on earth can you expect to win over a majority of voters as a whole?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 24, 2014 05:45 AM (fwARV)
I'm a FiCon first....
how'd that work out for me in 2001-2007?
Yeah exactly.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 05:47 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 24, 2014 05:55 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: --- at January 24, 2014 05:55 AM (ksJYU)
But that still doesn't answer my question.
If a so-con can't even win the (R) primary, how can s/he expect to win a general election?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 24, 2014 05:59 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: JL at January 24, 2014 06:03 AM (TP6sz)
Posted by: JL at January 24, 2014 06:06 AM (TP6sz)
I personally have less use for SoCon uber alles than for Fake FiCon...
that said we have given it the Reacharound Across the Aisle Kept GOP media icon gambit twice and failed...?
Maybe try a change-up?
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 06:10 AM (TE35l)
Getting the feds out of "free lifestyle" grants and means testing all Federal Aid would work wonders...
and given the idiocy of the ruling class I am in favor of buzzsawing Mil Budgets.
The meat and taters is in entitlements though and we blew the BEST chance we are EVER going to have to form a reform coalition when we failed to nail Obama for a 700 billion cookie jar raid.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 06:12 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Saber Alter at January 24, 2014 07:21 AM (DNu5Y)
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But here's what I don't understand. You're obviously very rational in that you understand you're never going to outlaw abortion. So what is the point of losing elections over and over again trying to outlaw something you know is never going to happen? Isn't that the definition of insanity?
Does the "pro-life" label now mean it's simply a statement of faith? Pro-life used to mean politically, they wanted to outlaw most abortions. Is it now just about politicians wearing the hat of moral crusader and being a part-time preacher?
I think social conservatives/religion has actually"won" the battle of hearts, even people with almost zero religious convictions don't look at getting an abortion the same way they look at getting a cavity drilled.
My problem with social conservatism is not the specific morality issues they are addressing, I happen to agree almost 100% with them, it's the fact there's no legislative solution and the end result seems to be pushing the US into full blown socialism.
We lost the 2012 election over social issues, period. Obama and Democrats did everything they could to talk about abortion, birth control, and homosexuality, and our side had bat shit crazy responses.
Posted by: McAdams at January 24, 2014 07:23 AM (W9bii)
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Posted by: deadrody at January 24, 2014 07:55 AM (+Dpo7)
A lot like the pot thing what makes Luap Nor Cult uniquely qualified to referee "acceptable bounds"?
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 24, 2014 11:15 AM (TE35l)
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