January 03, 2014
— Gabriel Malor Happy Friday. Early start for me, so just a video.
Ben's got a link dump lined up for you in a bit and the first podcast of the new year should be posted this afternoon.
Have a great weekend and GO POKES.
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Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:10 AM (T2V/1)
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Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:12 AM (T2V/1)
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Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:12 AM (T2V/1)
But Rome wasnÂ’t built in a day, and Detroit wasnÂ’t destroyed in one either.
No Detroit wasn't destroyed in a "day". But that was only because they received massive amounts of federal taxpayer money to keep them afloat. And they are STILL getting this money. W/O that continued bailout they would have gone under long ago.
http://tinyurl.com/lkhntkz
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:13 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 02:13 AM (LSDdO)
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Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:16 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 03, 2014 02:16 AM (b2cFu)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 03, 2014 02:18 AM (b2cFu)
If he does that it's liable to be another Black person who spits on him and not a White.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 02:18 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 03, 2014 06:18 AM (b2cFu)
Well, Leo wasn't exactly the most honest Pope ever and this was a period when the Catholic Church was just about as corrupt as our current Congress. Which is why Martin Luther broke away in the first place.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:19 AM (T2V/1)
ICYMI on the ONT, I meant to say EAST on Chocolate Ave.
So not in sight of lovely scenic bankrupt Harrisburg.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 02:20 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 02:21 AM (BC6cY)
If he does that it's liable to be another Black person who spits on him and not a White.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 06:18 AM (LSDdO)
It would be one of those evil white southerners who walk around Atlanta in their alligator shoes. Randy Newman warned us about them.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:21 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: shredded chi, a little happier than last year at January 03, 2014 02:22 AM (82LNv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 02:22 AM (BC6cY)
And a scosh bit of corruption to leaven the bread.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 02:22 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 03, 2014 02:23 AM (DVPta)
Posted by: shredded chi, a little happier than last year at January 03, 2014 02:24 AM (82LNv)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 03, 2014 02:25 AM (b2cFu)
OJ's puffed up like a penny ballon.
He's got a wiener six pack on the back of his neck.
Says he's on a diet but the diet's killing him.
How's that work?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 02:26 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 03, 2014 02:27 AM (b2cFu)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 03, 2014 06:23 AM (DVPta)
As I said, he can not pardon OJ. He can only pardon federal crimes.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:28 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: shredded chi, a little happier than last year at January 03, 2014 02:29 AM (82LNv)
no, they were told the cost of treatment, and refused to pay for that treatment
"signed up like supposed to but no one sent a bill"
Posted by: Bill Friday at January 03, 2014 02:30 AM (PGajh)
I don't think so.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 06:28 AM (LSDdO)
If it were not for Martin Luther there would have been someone like him. Things could not continue the way they were.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:30 AM (T2V/1)
The guy had a life not unlike TFG practically handed to him and he pissed it away and he's still pulling the same shit.
See? Talent and good fortune don't necessarily mean success.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 02:31 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 02:33 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread has escaped from the ONT at January 03, 2014 02:33 AM (5J54Q)
"signed up like supposed to but no one sent a bill"
Posted by: Bill Friday at January 03, 2014 06:30 AM (PGajh)
And I suspect that 99% of them were members in good standing of the FSA.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:33 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 03, 2014 02:34 AM (b2cFu)
Posted by: shredded chi, a little happier than last year at January 03, 2014 02:35 AM (82LNv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 02:36 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 03, 2014 06:34 AM (b2cFu)
Pixy does strange stuff since the big crash. I use the standard ascii notation for the degree symbol. It used to work fine. And it does show up correctly on my computer.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:36 AM (T2V/1)
It's the amount of cases ahead of them that takes up the time.
a first time appeal of a death sentence can take up to a year before anything is done before a judge. Sometimes 2 years.
Then there's pleas and counter pleas and introduction of evidence and all those have to be done before a judge and may take a year for each one to be processed. Then after rejection of the final state appeal, it may then go to the Federal District court (if sufficient constitutional grounds can be shown) and on to the Supreme court also.
Figure it take no less than 3 months to get an appearance usually 6 months to a year.
Multiply that by myriad pleas and hearings and it's not surprising it goes 20 years. It's a game to those who play the part of justice. They think they're doing good but they're just wasting time and money mostly.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 02:41 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 03, 2014 02:43 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 03, 2014 02:43 AM (b2cFu)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 03, 2014 02:44 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 06:41 AM (LSDdO)
Death penalty cases don't drag on for 20 years here and they almost fly through in TX. To paraphrase Mel Gibson, that guy would already be roasting his nuts on "Hollywood Blvd" by now if he was in SC. .
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:45 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 02:46 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Chris at January 03, 2014 02:46 AM (crkWb)
Now now Vic, cross state donations are only a problem when YOU or I do it...
not when Richard Dreyfuss does it.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 02:47 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 03, 2014 02:47 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at January 03, 2014 02:48 AM (uzmcT)
Now now Vic, cross state donations are only a problem when YOU or I do it...
not when Richard Dreyfuss does it.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 06:47 AM (TE35l)
My problem was they were "anonymous". I thought that was illegal.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:48 AM (T2V/1)
I'd bet you're correct Bevel.
It'd be racist not to let Momjeans run every ward in the nation let alone the 50 states.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 02:48 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 03, 2014 02:48 AM (olDqf)
It is illegal, if you are of the wrong party.
//Lerner the Barbarian
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 02:49 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: hogmartin at January 03, 2014 02:49 AM (sZwqG)
I don't think they have automatic pleas.
See that's where it gets all cloggy. guy gets told he's getting an automatic plea. Since it's mandated, the State picks up the tab for his lawyers (unless he's got money).
I assume in Tejas they don't do that and so the road to justice is straight and narrow and the posted speed is 75. YEE HAA.
I think they do it the right way. However, that said, they're are a lot of bad prosecutors out there and many of them proven to be in Tejas. They've hidden evidence and witnesses that would've exonerated defendants. So I have mixed emotions about the death penalty being so quick without oversight of the process.
With professional crime labs and a tight rein on DA's the process can be fast and fair.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 02:49 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 02:49 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at January 03, 2014 06:48 AM (uzmcT)
That argument has already been put to bed here multiple times. He can "ask" the State to commute the sentence but he has no authority to order it. And if he asks NV to commute the sentence I suspect they will ignore him.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:50 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 03, 2014 02:50 AM (olDqf)
It's Vic he's on ENIAC running windows 1.1 and HotDog or Opera.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 02:50 AM (TE35l)
No you're correct in a historic sense Vic.
Of course it never pays to underestimate the power of Historic First!....I am trying to get my Peter Sellers Inspector Clouseau on and be prepared for everything or nothing...
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 02:52 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Retread at January 03, 2014 02:53 AM (cHwk5)
The Constitution specifically states the pardon power is for federal crimes.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)
the punch cards would fill a building.
And take a year to run.
Okay, that's about right.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 02:54 AM (LSDdO)
I wasn't I am in awe....
it's like the documentary Thor with Natalie Portman narrating...
I am not sure if Odin is Vic or Vic's kid but it was compelling stuff...
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 02:54 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: shredded chi, a little happier than last year at January 03, 2014 02:54 AM (82LNv)
51: "Multiply that by myriad pleas and hearings and it's not surprising it goes 20 years. It's a game to those who play the part of justice. They think they're doing good but they're just wasting time and money mostly."
Bring back trial by combat. At least for capital cases. Shit would get handled quick, fast, and in a hurry.
Is it wierd that I feel nostalgic for a time long before I was born?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 03, 2014 02:55 AM (LJpVo)
The Unicode thing worked but then the smileys turned into boxes. Eh, whatever.
FS, very kind of you, but most of my meatspace friends think I am a crank or worse with my politics.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 03, 2014 02:55 AM (b2cFu)
heh heh heh.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 02:56 AM (LSDdO)
Yes sir, and the Constitution also pretty clearly states some nice things about ex post facto law and the primacy of the House in some matters.
The sanctity of the US Constitution relies in the Mexican stand-off the branches of government are supposed to wage for their own power.
Congress walked away from the table along with SCotUS possibly.
Nothing personal Vic I don't believe we live in that place any more.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 02:57 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 06:57 AM (TE35l)
Be that as it may, I think it would be a step to far, even for the Choom King.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 02:57 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 03, 2014 02:58 AM (Hw3Gh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 02:58 AM (BC6cY)
Not one reporter, not one Republican will have the balls to say, "Hey Barry why was Warren Buffet's bottom line more important than safety and efficiency?"
Watch
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 02:58 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 03:00 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 03, 2014 06:58 AM (Hw3Gh)
Since he has no authority to pardon OJ he can only ask. Sure, he could order NV to pardon OJ but the governor can tell him to piss up a rope. And BTW, the current gov of NV is a Republican.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 03:01 AM (T2V/1)
No. but keep in mind. we see those times through the filter of another's view and it may be distorted or truncated.
I'm sure it looks like things worked better then but I'm sure that humans still sucked then as they do now so it can't have been all that good.
plus there's the limited life span and lack of antibiotics and basic hygiene.
Hobbes once said ""In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain, and consequently, not culture of the earth, no navigation, nor the use of commodities that may be imported by sea, no commodious building, no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force, no knowledge of the face of the earth, no account of time, no arts, no letters, no society, and which is worst of all, continual fear and danger of violent death, and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."
That's how I imagine things were like. they looked good to the people living then because the alternative was grubbing in the mud and being eaten by dogs.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 03:01 AM (LSDdO)
It ain't happened yet but the 404Care rollout may provide some.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 03:03 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at January 03, 2014 03:04 AM (uzmcT)
Posted by: John Roberts at January 03, 2014 03:05 AM (Hw3Gh)
Oh I'd say the House could have raised some hell over the GM bond holders getting fucked but "Nanzi" see the thing is that Tip O'Neill would not have stood idly by while Congressional Power was abrogated on Contract Law and Budgeting in the form of SCOAMFcare and Porkulous.
That's what I mean about the Mexican stand-off being largely abandoned. You have cows and true believers in "the cause" up there now. "We" are the cows and Searchlight and Nanzi and SCotUS are the true believers.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:07 AM (TE35l)
@92....but the governor can tell him to piss up a rope.
And the MSM will be all over that governor calling him an evil racist southerner and shit.
Posted by: Case at January 03, 2014 03:07 AM (wf3Kt)
Posted by: John Roberts at January 03, 2014 03:07 AM (Hw3Gh)
Posted by: shredded chi, a little happier than last year at January 03, 2014 03:07 AM (82LNv)
Posted by: Vic at January 03, 2014 06:21 AM (T2V/1)
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(singing)
Atlanta people...
got no reason
Atlanta people...
got no reason
Atlanta people...
got no reason to live.
Posted by: Randy Newman at January 03, 2014 03:07 AM (KlVdw)
How many people who 'have insurance' they 'signed up for' on Obama's health insurance web site understand that the first time they go to the hospital or the doctor, they have to pay cash money up front, or at least 'promise with all my heart' to pay that first 3-5-11 thousand dollar deductible?
Posted by: Enquiring Mind at January 03, 2014 03:08 AM (Y+b00)
Yup, "the needs of the day" will trump precedent.
"A MAN'S life is AT STAKE!" etc etc.
One of my "resolutions"(since "tries" sounds self-defeated) is to try to be calm as I watch how low the newsies and SCOAMF will go these next three years.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:09 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Gran at January 03, 2014 03:09 AM (nPMjI)
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at January 03, 2014 03:09 AM (Qev5V)
Posted by: mindful webworker - 10 Lordz b Leapin' Day! at January 03, 2014 03:10 AM (RNijH)
Posted by: WTP at January 03, 2014 03:11 AM (8Z9jz)
He's on a Commodore 64 running win 3.1 and I.E. 5.0 or something.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 03, 2014 06:45 AM (LSDdO)
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WRONG! Everyone knows he uses a Vic-20.
Posted by: Darth Randall at January 03, 2014 03:11 AM (KlVdw)
Yup, I used to post the investigatory data from SL-1 here from time to time.
*That* was back when we were a mighty nation with balls.
A tragedy.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:11 AM (TE35l)
It's like it er uh flammable and shit....I uh had no idea this could happen!
//General Manly Throw McMomjeans IV Hero of Hole 19 "Smartest Man in the room"
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:13 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Erowmero at January 03, 2014 03:14 AM (OONaw)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at January 03, 2014 03:15 AM (uzmcT)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread has escaped from the ONT at January 03, 2014 03:15 AM (5J54Q)
Isn't it odd to think back on how awesome netscape felt now?
Time she sure does march on.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:17 AM (TE35l)
Ness added that companies shipping oil from the Bakken already were adhering to federal regulations.
One of these days I expect somebody to break out the SCOAMF in describing that ignorant cocksucker and his toadies.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 03:18 AM (7FA6G)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at January 03, 2014 03:20 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: mindful webworker - 10 Lordz b Leapin' Day! at January 03, 2014 03:20 AM (sKHit)
Can you feel it?
We are >-< that close to busting out into the mainstream....
it is the elephant in the room that Giggles is a fucking retard, sooner or later someone is going to bust out something similar to one of our little pet phrases for the moron(and not our kind) in a live arena.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:21 AM (TE35l)
When I stood there I guess I could of thought "how beautiful" but instead I was struck by the heavy hand that must of been on the hearts of the people and what it meant to stand against it. Gutenberg figured out to print, but there must be some unknown blacksmith that invented the CNC machine, because Luther had his manly parts made of titanium.
Posted by: AE at January 03, 2014 03:21 AM (HYceo)
>>However, that said, they're are a lot of bad prosecutors out there and many of them proven to be in Tejas. They've hidden evidence and witnesses that would've exonerated defendants. So I have mixed emotions about the death penalty being so quick without oversight of the process.
With professional crime labs and a tight rein on DA's the process can be fast and fair.
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.I softened my view on the Death Penalty after the Fells Acre case. And I am now completely against it because of the Duke Rape case. If those boys did not come from wealthy families they would be in prison locked up for 20+years because of a rouge DA and a corrupt or indifferent court system.
Posted by: Registered Voter at January 03, 2014 03:22 AM (AHX9J)
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 07:11 AM (TE35l)
I covered that last year on this date. There are a lot of stories about that accident. The official version is they were pulling a control rod by hand with a rope. There are no "interlocks" or safety features in your hand. The investigation postulated that they pulled the rod too fast and the reactor went prompt critical in that one fuel channel creating steam explosion. The steam explosion ejected the rod from the core impaling the guy who was pulling the rope and pinning him to the roof. The other two guys died from radiation overdose.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 03:23 AM (T2V/1)
117: "One of these days I expect somebody to break out the SCOAMF in describing that ignorant cocksucker and his toadies."
I would vote for anyone who got up to the podium and just told the truth. No matter their party or affiliations. I don't even care if they would be a horrible president.
I'd vote for them just to reward the honesty, and hopefully establish a precident.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 03, 2014 03:23 AM (v6cwT)
Posted by: mindful webworker - 10 Lordz b Leapin' Day! at January 03, 2014 03:24 AM (5MGOE)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread has escaped from the ONT at January 03, 2014 03:24 AM (5J54Q)
Posted by: mindful webworker - 10 Lordz b Leapin' Day! at January 03, 2014 03:26 AM (5MGOE)
Yeah I use the impaled rod guy as a cautionary tale to my son about bringing anger to a precise task.
You and I had a discussion about the sanity of having your poison be essentially glued on to rods that were subject to the conditions of the reactor vessel on a recurring and far more frequent than field use would have mandated degradation cycle.
The idea probably could have worked, but I suspect that it would have been a lot like the Texas Towers a solution that would have been exerted on a problem with a short half life. The problem the SL-1 reactor was trying to solve was stable self contained power for the Dew Line. The Dew Line was largely replaced with more mobile platforms within 15 years.
I am in awe of the old proving grounds in Idaho Falls and our can-do attitude.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:28 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 03:29 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2014 03:30 AM (ZshNr)
Weather delays may bust the cycle a bit.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:33 AM (TE35l)
Oh yeah.. morning!
MINUS 10 f here this morning with about a foot of global warming on the ground!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 03, 2014 03:33 AM (b/lt+)
There was nothing wrong with the control rods. They were made of cadmium clad in aluminum. The problem came from the people pulling the rod by hand without a good grounding in the effects of rod motion in adding reactivity.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 03:33 AM (T2V/1)
Folks, I've lost track here. Which is worse to the bent liberal left?
Being an evil white hispanic.
Being an evil white southerner.
Being an evil black race traitor.
Being a jew.
Posted by: Case at January 03, 2014 03:34 AM (wf3Kt)
Part of me is terrified that SCotUS would argue that they have no standing to sue in the first place Carol.
I'd really like to know if CJ Roberts really is being blackmailed or he really DOES think somehow we should undo 200+ years of understanding of the separation of powers b/c "historic first"....
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:35 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 03:35 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: elaine at January 03, 2014 03:36 AM (GNZ0/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 03, 2014 03:37 AM (olDqf)
So is that the "c" word, or are we now labeling democrats with the more accurate title of communist?
Posted by: elaine at January 03, 2014 07:36 AM (GNZ0/)
You got it in one.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 03:37 AM (T2V/1)
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Whew! Spellchecker tried to put Deity for dirty; that would just not have worked!Posted by: mindful webworker - 10 Lordz b Leapin' Day! at January 03, 2014 03:38 AM (Tqh1Y)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 03:38 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Registered Voter at January 03, 2014 07:22 AM (AHX9J)
In both cases there were prosecutors who ran amok and people who interceded to help them; Dorothy Rabinowitz in Fells Acre and KC Johnson in the Duke hoax. Yes it's a good thing that the Duke students were able to afford excellent legal counsel to keep them from enduring what the Amiraults did before Rabinowitz's articles spurred some attorneys reading it to do pro bono work on their behalf. Kudos to North Carolina's State Attorney for issuing the highly unusual ruling that the accused just weren't not guilty and some people might think they got away with something (not that fucking shit for brains dimwits won't think that anyway) but they were in fact innocent of all charges. Contrast that to the dumbass Choadley in Mass who dragged her feet as long as possible on delivering justice to the Amiraults. Fortunately Scotty Centerfold was able to use that against the ignorant scrunt, who was borderline retarded on other things as well.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 03:39 AM (7FA6G)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 03:40 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: NCKate at January 03, 2014 03:42 AM (Auy5s)
>>Neighbors poured a huge ass pool last night. Five cement trucks. Wondering how that's gonna turn out with the temps.
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.Concrete blankets. It will be fine if they used them.
Posted by: Registered Voter at January 03, 2014 03:44 AM (AHX9J)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 03:49 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: mindful webworker - 10 Lordz b Leapin' Day! at January 03, 2014 03:49 AM (HeCg1)
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Posted by: Case at January 03, 2014 03:49 AM (wf3Kt)
The instructors gave testimony that the manipulation of the rods degraded over the service life of the system. I was not saying that the rods themselves had lost all of their reaction poisoning potential, but I was saying that the engineering solution chosen was "interesting" which you seem to agree with. If I remember correctly in shrinking the core form the initial design Combustion engineering did not even use the outer 4 control rods, resulting in procedure that had an undue amount of reactivity control placed on the central main rod.
The primary cause was as you state the lack of understanding about tolerances on the part of Specialist Byrnes. The difference in skill level and technical aptitude between Combustion Engineering and the Military's Nuclear Program Technicians was pretty profound. Add in an allegedly hotheaded E-4 with no respect for the CE procedural protocols and it was a crisis in waiting.
It is also pretty apparent that the SL-1 project was sort of in an administrative limbo with Combustion Engineering and the Army not engaging in proper oversight roles of their respective missions on the project IIRC.
It's been a few years since I really went over the data, or read the book that contends that Byrnes and Legg had some pretty intense extracurricular rivalry going on etc etc.
Have always meant to ask you since you were in the business direct if you felt that there was potential in that family of solution from a practical standpoint with refinement.
It did not produce a lot of power relatively speaking when under control, but removal of the "magic 4 inches" of human only control would have allowed it to operate safely at a cost of some compactness.
It is humbling to think a 3d of a foot tolerance unleashed when exceeded within the human span 20 GW energy in 4 milliseconds or so.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:51 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 03:51 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Retread at January 03, 2014 03:52 AM (cHwk5)
and my long posts on Sl-1 are probably as boring as whale shit to a lot of folks.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:54 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 03:55 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2014 07:45 AM (ZshNr)
I'm torn on this. There are some people who just deserve to die and the world will be better off with them gone. Period. That said I'm still mystified with how anybody on that jury in Fells Acre couldn't see through all the horseshit recovered memory nonsense and realize there wasn't a damn bit of physical evidence that anything wrong happened. The jury system sometimes breaks down. Fortunately that wasn't a death penalty case; although any time an innocent person goes behind bars that's bad enough.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 03:55 AM (7FA6G)
http://youtu.be/tPfXBqXJ_o4
Prompt Critical a short film on the SL-1 event and response.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:57 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 03:58 AM (MhA4j)
When I was in school we covered that accident in detail. There are a few minor differences in the details on what we covered and what is in Wiki. Wiki says that the criticality was caused by simple withdrawel of the rod and that is true. However simply going critical under those conditions should not have caused a steam explosion. The information I got was it was a combination of the distance the rod was withdrawn and the rate at which the guy withdrew it caused it to go "prompt critical" (sometimes called super-critical which is not technically accurate).
But one thing to keep in mind, since everyone who was there died they really can not be sure exactly what happened.
Another thing that is ironic about this accident is that due to that reduced size design the reactor could go critical on the withdrawal of that one rod. That has always been prohibited in all naval reactors and civilian reactors.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 03:58 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at January 03, 2014 07:09 AM (Qev5V)
Probably been doing that already.
*rimshot*
Oh wait, that too.
Posted by: NC Ref at January 03, 2014 03:58 AM (Myqtp)
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 03:59 AM (z4WKX)
but I digress...
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 03:59 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 07:54 AM (TE35l)
They're like any posts - interesting to those interested. I scroll past them, but I scroll past the software posts, too, since I don't understand them. And I expect people scroll past my stories. Caveat Emptor is the motto around here.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2014 03:59 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Logicus at January 03, 2014 04:00 AM (rjF2k)
Posted by: Gran at January 03, 2014 04:00 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 04:00 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: elaine at January 03, 2014 04:00 AM (GNZ0/)
Posted by: Retread at January 03, 2014 04:00 AM (cHwk5)
Bush took man in Iraq throwing shoes at him with good humor.
Do you think SCOAMF would take someone spitting on him as well?NO!
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 07:59 AM (z4WKX)
No
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 04:01 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2014 04:03 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2014 04:03 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at January 03, 2014 04:04 AM (Qev5V)
I'm torn on this. There are some people who just deserve to die and the world will be better off with them gone. Period.
True. But anyone who looks clear-eyed at the record can see the death penalty has been applied to many innocent people. And may I say Marsha Marsha Coakley should have ended her days locked up in solitary for what she did to the Amiraults. That woman railroaded them and never admitted any error - and she's a likely shoo-in as the next governor of this hellhole state.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2014 04:04 AM (zF6Iw)
Get a looong leash, let the dog out, stand inside.
Posted by: Retread at January 03, 2014 04:06 AM (cHwk5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 04:07 AM (BC6cY)
There is also the official film on the incident.
http://youtu.be/qOt7xDKxmCM
SL-1 (1961)
of interest is that the investigators concluded that Byrnes extracted the rod 26 and a quarter inches which I do not think could have been done "accidentally" if the activity was being treated with proper respect.
One other point of interest is the success of the design in containing the majority of the radiation release despite the lack of a modern understanding containment vessel.
A lot was learned from the incident, and I have seldom felt the need to watch horror flicks for horror after I read the reports of the autopsy protocols as a young man.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:07 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 04:08 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2014 08:03 AM (JDIKC)
Do what my neighbor does, leave the dog (and in her case the cat) outside. About 4 am this morning I went out to move my temp detector and the cat shot in the door.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 04:08 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at January 03, 2014 04:08 AM (Qev5V)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 04:09 AM (BC6cY)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at January 03, 2014 04:09 AM (mpkq0)
Thanks, Vic is by far a superior voice to mine on the topic.....
if knowledge of the things involved were a dollar I have about 3/4th a penny in actual hands on knowledge(some HazMat training) whereas Vic worked in the industry.
I won't deign to judge how much of the dollar Vic can claim, and I don't levy that as a rebuke I just can't quantify the credentials involved and I would not want to insult him.
What stuns me is how little is made of the incident by the media, or the activists.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:11 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Vic at January 03, 2014 06:36 AM (T2V/1)
test NOAA says 9º F here nd that is pretty cold for NoVA.
I cut and pasted from Open Office to see if it works.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 03, 2014 04:12 AM (o3MSL)
7 years Navy Nuke, 30 years civilian Nuke and for major part of that a licensed RO and SRO. When I retired I was writing the emergency procedures.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 04:14 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 08:08 AM (MhA4j)
He's terrible at any sport he attempts. From the few clips that the Pravda media has let get out I can tell that he is almost completely inept at basketball. Hell, if he was any good at all the MFM would be showing Preznit Dreamboat's prowess 24/7. I'm sure golf is no different.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 04:14 AM (7FA6G)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 04:16 AM (MhA4j)
Thanks for the reply Vic.
Yeah the 26 inch overshoot is troubling, as was the ability of the main rod to allow criticality alone.
I would not sully or blacken the names of the operators by acting as if the rumors of their misbehaviors are fact and the causative.
I do appreciate your insight on the matter.
Thanks again.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:16 AM (TE35l)
I have looked at it clear eyed and in depth. Since the DP was reinstated in the 70s, no innocent person has been executed. I know there is a list of people the thug lovers falsely claim were innocent and executed but they are full of shit.
I wasn't talking about the 1970s, nor of thugs. I was actually thinking of James Hanratty and Timothy Evans. To me, the DP is such a finality that it should be applied only in cases of obvious, provable overwhelming guilt.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2014 04:16 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2014 04:16 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 04:17 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2014 04:17 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 04:17 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at January 03, 2014 04:18 AM (EMxef)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 04:18 AM (MhA4j)
I know you're qualified Vic, I am not qualified to quantify your qualifications.
Heh, I do have respect for the business. I think we had a good discussion on the dangers at Chernobyl IIRC, and I hope you would grant that I have some understanding of the forces in play from layman's standpoint. If/when I ever get to buy you a drink in person we'll tip our glasses to the men and women who spent their time "proving the principle."
Hats off buddy.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:19 AM (TE35l)
LOL, I was kidding, I know you live up there near the Canadian border. I would not leave my cats out on a night like it was here (24F) much less up there.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 04:19 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Case at January 03, 2014 04:20 AM (wf3Kt)
Thanks Carol, I do agree with the poster above that said all he has to fear is the air of a scandal but I'll look at your link in greater detail.
Who knows?
and that is the problem.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:20 AM (TE35l)
Ah, so it was self-inflicted when, with a little more patience, you could have been laughing at your wife. Poor planning for a moron.
Posted by: Retread at January 03, 2014 04:20 AM (cHwk5)
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at January 03, 2014 04:24 AM (Qev5V)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at January 03, 2014 08:18 AM (EMxef)
They'd probably be in the playoffs now if they'd have stayed with Slingin' Josh McCown instead of that interception machine when he came back from injury. At least enneffell contracts mean nothing over the life of them if you get cut.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 04:25 AM (7FA6G)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 03, 2014 04:25 AM (7ObY1)
"FINE GODDAMNIT I'LL TAKE HER OUT MYSELF!"
3 am like clockwork every day for my pups. Mrs P and I trade escort duties. Of course, in weather like this, they run out, dump and run back in again.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2014 04:25 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 04:27 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 04:27 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: rickl at January 03, 2014 04:28 AM (sdi6R)
Yeah I am glad that all other points of concern to the conservative caucus in Colorado have been tackled so we can get down to the quality of life in recreational drugs level.
It is a lot like David Brooks trying to explain that the true conservative position on deficit spending is sucking on the bong of quantitative easing(ie Xeroxonomics) so hard that John Maynard Keynes is in awe from hell.
"priorities"
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:29 AM (TE35l)
I deal with the pro-pot "libertarians" on twatter and have worked with them at the job I had in Indiana.
If you think the majority of them give a fuck about liberty beyond getting half-baked I'd like to be your financial adviser please?
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:31 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 08:27 AM (MhA4j)
Right you are. The corruption is woven into the very fabric of the anti-Constitutional statist society that the libs/progs/dems/commies have been crafting for us serfs for decades. Right now, the only public officials I trust in the slightest are Sens Cruz and Lee, and our elite betters are plotting their destruction as we sleep.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 03, 2014 04:31 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Gran at January 03, 2014 04:31 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: AE at January 03, 2014 04:32 AM (HYceo)
Posted by: tubal the bad at January 03, 2014 04:32 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 04:32 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 04:33 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at January 03, 2014 04:34 AM (Qev5V)
Posted by: mindful webworker - 10 Lordz b Leapin' Day! at January 03, 2014 04:34 AM (OZjR5)
Ace - "But we really ought to respect other citizens as adult, free human beings. And freedom means the freedom to make mistakes, or, if not mistakes, to make choices the mainstream of society doesn't approve of.
We don't all have to be mainstream."
Hear, hear.
Posted by: Perez Hilton at January 03, 2014 04:34 AM (gHDMy)
The strength of the Horde is the diversity of our knowledge base.
The strength of Ace as the founder of the feast is his personal confidence in his skills as a writer and thinker to allow us to flourish.
There is another "founder of the feast" who had to believe the show was ENTIRELY about him and his bike.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:34 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 9th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 04:35 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Case at January 03, 2014 04:36 AM (wf3Kt)
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 04:36 AM (z4WKX)
Yeah. Just like 115F in July would be a "bit warm."
Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 03, 2014 04:36 AM (gHDMy)
Not to be contrarian for its own sake, but I think if I knew with certainty I'd be okay in the end I would not have a huge issue with being in a coma for the next 3-30 years....
I hope you're feeling better Allen.
Happy New Year
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:36 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 04:37 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2014 04:37 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 08:34 AM (TE35l)
And boring music and inane photographs.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 04:37 AM (7FA6G)
Precisely PhxGrl and you and I run in some of the same circles on Twitter you know EXACTLY what I am talking about.
You start explaining the necessity for cranking back the EPA to the stoners and they start braying on about "protecting the weak and we need to outlaw oil and make more wind and solar"
Hey CO stoners you won, we get it....
no need to pretend anymore.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:38 AM (TE35l)
They should change the name to Coloforniarado and make it official.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at January 03, 2014 04:38 AM (azHfB)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 08:33 AM (MMC8r)
Drugged and disarmed is no way to go through life, son!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 03, 2014 04:39 AM (o3MSL)
What a waste of cheese, man.
Posted by: Joey "Two-Blasts" Biden at January 03, 2014 04:41 AM (bSzbN)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 9th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 08:35 AM (u8GsB) I just keep having the word "Soma" pop into my head when I think about the citizens of Colorado. I mentioned the Magpul company move upthread. They went across the border to Wyoming, because they were legislated right out of the state, because assault weapons evil. For me, dope smoking is a sideshow compared to many other issues. And I'm okay personally with the Colorado pot law, but it came with a price.
Posted by: tubal the bad at January 03, 2014 04:41 AM (YEQ2h)
The darker angels of my nature wonder what the suction force of the notorious concubine were to suck the "terror hating reluctant right leaning thinker" out of his body in less than a year....
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:41 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 9th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 08:35 AM (u8GsB)
Yo can bet that one piece of data that WILL be shared with the Feds (DoJ) is the ID of any person making a purchase of that sweet legal marijuana.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 03, 2014 04:42 AM (o3MSL)
fish gotta fish, bees gotta bee, and locusts gotta destroy
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:42 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2014 04:43 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 10th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 04:43 AM (u8GsB)
217: "Yeah I am glad that all other points of concern to the conservative caucus in Colorado have been tackled so we can get down to the quality of life in recreational drugs level."
I'm not all that interested in whether or not some stoner can get his weed. But I do tend to think it may, MAY mind you, be worth while to see if such a decriminalization can reduce prison and enforcement costs. I also wonder if this may lead to a reduction in gang/cartel violence.
As a believer in State's Rights, I certainly have no problem with CO giving this a try. Let them be the self selected guinea pig to test this out. If it works, other States can see if they do or do not want to follow suit.
If it doesn't work, then only they have to suck it.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 03, 2014 04:43 AM (Kh+vp)
Sven, what's your twitter handle so I can reset mu blocking software?
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 03, 2014 04:43 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 10th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 04:44 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Case at January 03, 2014 04:44 AM (wf3Kt)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 04:44 AM (PYAXX)
What...? Oh...
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 03, 2014 04:44 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 04:45 AM (z4WKX)
I'm a conservative with libertarian leanings.
I support drug legalization with even less reservations than I once had, and I support prostitution being legal and subject to regulation by local forces.
I think people should be free to exert their will on their legally gained lands and property with the minimal amount of regulations necessary to prevent catastrophe to the commons.
I believe people should be free to say what they will as sunlight is the best disinfectant.
I also have a slightly more nuanced order of goals than "I wanna spliff up right now man."
CO will try to do away with pre-employment drug screening before they allow more gun freedom or economic liberty.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:46 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2014 04:46 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2014 08:43 AM (fWAjv)
I didn't even stick around to be banned when that fat boring POS went full retard.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 04:47 AM (7FA6G)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 04:47 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at January 03, 2014 04:47 AM (Qev5V)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 10th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 04:48 AM (u8GsB)
I am Sven J Olafson @sven10077 on twitter with a back-up at HarlekwinSandwich@Harlekwin15
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:48 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 08:44 AM (PYAXX)
Same here. I simply won't be dictated to on that matter. As I've boringly said before, "an unjust law is no law at all" (hat tip, St. Augustine) and I'm not morally bound to uphold it. The brute force of the state is just that, brute force. I will work around the gun laws, Allen.Posted by: tubal the bad at January 03, 2014 04:48 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2014 04:49 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 04:49 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: alternate universe mindful webworker at January 03, 2014 04:50 AM (INyZp)
Yeah you need to rest up and recharge the next time you have 18 hours in a row.
I used to fight a cold that would take a day or three to heal up a week or two when I was on the flight line.
Keep on plugging.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:50 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 04:51 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2014 04:53 AM (5oU9c)
I notice that Coloradans seem to support states rights on precisely one issue.
The Feds just shat all over state control of health care solutions.
Whatever...hug a rainbow.
I have about 3,000 things I should be doing....irrigating my colon is like 7,873 on that list.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:53 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 10th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 04:53 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2014 04:54 AM (fWAjv)
the answer is "we still get to vote on the welfare state while being empowered to make reckless decisions? Cool man COOL!"
They are Libertines Allen not Libertarians.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:54 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 04:54 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 04:55 AM (7FA6G)
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 08:54 AM (TE35l) The Libertarian Left has always made me a little queasy, and nervous.
Posted by: tubal the bad at January 03, 2014 04:56 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 04:56 AM (z4WKX)
Thanks--think I already had the Sven one followed.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 03, 2014 04:57 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 04:57 AM (MMC8r)
AllenG is that a rhetorical question? Since it does not fit the narrative, of course it won't be reported. Unless Sheryl Atkinson finds a F+F gun on the Russian ship after the Captain is murdered.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2014 04:57 AM (5oU9c)
262: "....i have a hard time believing that drug cartel activity (murder, kidnapping, beheading, shootouts, home invasions) will magically disappear..."
I don't disagree with you. For me it is a "what if" kind of thought. I think the reason the cartels can get away with that kind of shit up here is there is no one for the pot growers/dealers to go to when faced with a cartel push.
Making pot a legal commodity would allow the locals to appeal to the city or state police for protection and action. How much protection the police would be able to provide is debatable.
The example I draw from is the comparison of violence during prohibition of alcohol and its drawdown after prohibition ended. Sure the gangs were still around and violence occured. But at nowhere near the same levels.
Whether this same dynamic would occur in the pot trade remains to be seen. I guess the only way to tell is to count the bodies after the snow melts.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 03, 2014 04:57 AM (v6cwT)
CNN has finally started admitting that the expedition was "a group of climate scientists" which ACTUALLY should be labeled "sightseers who brought their kids and caused the whole mess by slacking when the Captain said time to go ice is up."
They'll admit that they are encountering more ice than a century ago precisely never.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 04:57 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 04:57 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 04:58 AM (PYAXX)
>>.....and don't think they won't put you on some gov't list for smoking pot that will keep you from being able to purchase future or keep current weapons......
.
.
.That line is on the Federal form so you know damn good and well they are keeping a "list" of who is buying pot legally, and one day when someone on that list goes and tries to buy a gun, Poof! Denied on the NICS check.
Posted by: Registered Voter at January 03, 2014 04:58 AM (kYfFr)
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 08:55 AM (7FA6G) The Chinese sent in a big chopper to haul out the sorry-asses, a bundle at a time. And, as you know, the Chinese are noted humanitarians and philanthropists.
Posted by: tubal the bad at January 03, 2014 04:59 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 04:59 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at January 03, 2014 04:59 AM (Qev5V)
That's where I was from a principled point of view, but since America is once again not rewarding principle I have altered my position.
Legalize it all, subsidize it, use the USPS to deliver it to the door, hell make it free when people are on welfare if need be.
Let nature take its course.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 05:00 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 03, 2014 05:00 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2014 05:01 AM (5oU9c)
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2014 05:01 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 05:02 AM (MhA4j)
You'd think by now I'd know not to drink coffee in bed while reading here. Ow, hot.
keep having the word "Soma" pop into my head when I think about the citizens of Colorado.
I'm thinking of 19th-century opium dens, except they never had cards that would get them free Funyuns when they ventured out into the light.
Posted by: HeideRadieschen at January 03, 2014 05:02 AM (nMYaa)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 08:59 AM (MhA4j)
What's that you say?
Posted by: Karl Rover at January 03, 2014 05:02 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: mindful webworker & ten lords a-leaping at January 03, 2014 05:02 AM (6f2wv)
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 05:03 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 05:03 AM (PYAXX)
Don't thank the GOP Maria Galvez thank your buddies Nanzi Pelosi, Searchlight Reid, Scoamfy-d, and Sebeezlebub....
words matter and maybe those cockholsters should have read it before they passed it eh?
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 05:03 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 05:04 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2014 09:01 AM (fWAjv) Really, I'm sorry about the cough and all, but there's a woman who is paying for her education. Welcome to the New Boss, lady.
Posted by: tubal the bad at January 03, 2014 05:04 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2014 09:01 AM (fWAjv)
Surprise, surprise!
Maybe, just maybe, Congress should have read the bill to find out what was in it BEFORE they passed it!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 03, 2014 05:04 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 10th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 05:04 AM (u8GsB)
forgive me if I place freeing the economy, giving proper deference to the plain language of the bill of rights, and reining in an out of control civil service ought to be higher on the "freedom" list than state subsidized and condoned drug use.
If I were to take only ONE piece out of that Jenga pile it'd be economic liberty.....
but that's me, I am odd that way.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 05:05 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 05:05 AM (PYAXX)
.. Woof !
Posted by: Sarah McLachlan at January 03, 2014 05:06 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 10th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 05:06 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 05:06 AM (T2V/1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkenberg%27s_Legion
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2014 05:08 AM (5oU9c)
Morning, all!
This morning's commute sucked a fat one. I ended up caving and asking my father to drive me in to work because I did not want to think about my car's battery dying during the day. It's on its last legs, but I just need to make it to next Friday when I'm scheduled to bring the damn car in for service anyway. So OF COURSE we get the coldest weather we've had in ten years. *throws hands in air in defeat*
I hope the rest of y'all are keeping warm! Let the loathing you feel for the Demonrats and their commie brethren keep you cozy. It works for me!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at January 03, 2014 05:08 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 05:08 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Bean Pies, ey? at January 03, 2014 05:08 AM (Qev5V)
Heidi Cullinan of Ames is a 40-year-old mom who has become a popular author in the booming subgenre of gay male romance.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/videonetwork/3004125632001
Posted by: HeideRadieschen at January 03, 2014 05:08 AM (nMYaa)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2014 05:09 AM (lMLin)
According to the report, unlike previous executions of political prisoners which were carried out by firing squads with machine guns, Jang was stripped naked and thrown into a cage, along with his five closest aides. Then 120 hounds, starved for three days, were allowed to prey on them until they were completely eaten up. This is called "quan jue", or execution by dogs.
Sounds very Genghis Khan, doesn't it?
What happened to using mortars, huh?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at January 03, 2014 05:09 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 10th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 05:09 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 03, 2014 05:09 AM (it9Mu)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 09:08 AM (PYAXX)
Its called judge shopping. Just find a liberal retard who doesn't give a damn about the Constitution or law. It isn't hard to find judges like that and Obama is packing the courts now with them as fast as he can.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 03, 2014 05:10 AM (T2V/1)
Correct Vic, and yeah I'd support taking convicted drunk drivers off welfare as well.
It never ceases to amaze me how many invisible ink penumbras there are in the bill of rights when they can also ignore the plain language.
Joe the Plumber gets his privacy violated by a partisan civil servant and Spliff nation goes "meh?" but woe betide that a person be held to task for their consumption.
Since the American people won't grant me weaning the nation off welfare as much as possible, but did support weaning imbibers off the Feds jumped in and invented a "right to privacy" WRT a state function.
I LOVE the men and women in black and their Dick Tracy jr. G man decoder rings.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 05:10 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 05:10 AM (MhA4j)
I don't recall wishing you a Happy New Year!
Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2014 08:57 AM (z4WKX)
You have now, Carol. And the same to you. May it be a happy and good year for you.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2014 05:10 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2014 05:11 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: tubal the bad at January 03, 2014 05:11 AM (YEQ2h)
>>they'd have to kick all the drug/alcohol addicted "disabled" off the state/fed money grab rolls....i don't see that happening ever..once you've given these people anything it's going to be given forever....why, differentiating potheads from other addicts would be discrimination....besides.....i think the gov't wants the population stoned & on the dole
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.I would have no issues with them kicking people off State or Federal Aid for repetitive substance abuse. I know a women where we used to live in Connecticut who is "disabled" because she is a crack addict. She gets everything, Section 8 voucher, Food Stamps, Welfare and other bennies. Hell the State gave her new teeth because the old ones rotted out from Meth and Crack.
The issue I have is that she still does drugs when she gets any kind of money and the State knows it. I say one rehab treatment and if you don't stay sober your out the door.
Posted by: Registered Voter at January 03, 2014 05:13 AM (kYfFr)
'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!' a coughing Maria Galvez told MailOnline outside the Inova Healthplex facility in the town of Springfield.
Look on the bright side, missy - at least you weren't duped by those Southern radicals who only want Obama to fail. Not you!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2014 05:13 AM (zF6Iw)
Be calling a technician today, seems igniter for propane heater is going out. Which means the lit heater will go out with valve open. Hence I think why my alarm system freaked out earlier. Oi.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2014 05:13 AM (5oU9c)
KAILUA, Hawaii (AP) -- How President Barack Obama spent Day 13 of his holiday vacation in Hawaii on Thursday:
- GOLF: For the second day in a row, Obama skipped a morning workout at the gym and instead headed to the golf course.
I thought he wasn't going to rest until everyone had a job.
Obama's approach shot landed short of the green. He putted it on, then missed his putt from the green about 2 feet left of the hole.
His shot went left. How surprising. Later that night he made up for it because Reggie got a hole in one
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 03, 2014 05:13 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: tubal the bad at January 03, 2014 09:11 AM (YEQ2h)
One reason I'm not a feminazi. I have a fondness for the patriarchal hegemony. ^_^
And you stay warm, too!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at January 03, 2014 05:13 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl Happy 10th day of Christmas at January 03, 2014 05:14 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Fingers at January 03, 2014 05:14 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 05:14 AM (PYAXX)
Obama's approach shot landed short of the
green. He putted it on, then missed his putt from the green about 2 feet
left of the hole.
Are they... are they SERIOUSLY reporting the stats from the Preezy's golf game?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at January 03, 2014 05:14 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 05:16 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2014 05:16 AM (BC6cY)
And some people think the Republic isn't doomed......
Posted by: tubal the bad at January 03, 2014 05:16 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 05:16 AM (MhA4j)
It's how state run media in an autocracy rolls....
well scratch that they are not yet to the point they are reporting Obama's drives can be used to test NORAD like the reporting on Kim Jong Il in Ping Pong but give it time.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 05:16 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at January 03, 2014 05:17 AM (naUcP)
>>>> suspect we need The Rest of the Story.
"It'll cost you an arm and a leg!" said the foot-lopping Doc
Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Fingers at January 03, 2014 05:17 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 05:17 AM (7FA6G)
Sounds like your day has started off swell there MWR. Hope it gets better. Right now about 28F and its supposed to warm up.
I YEARN for 28F. *sigh* Right now it's a toasty 4F here in Concord. Of course the windchill puts it down around -11F. But it could be worse!
Be calling a technician today, seems igniter for propane heater is going out. Which means the lit heater will go out with valve open. Hence I think why my alarm system freaked out earlier. Oi.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2014 09:13 AM (5oU9c)
Well THAT doesn't sound good. Be careful!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at January 03, 2014 05:18 AM (4df7R)
>>>>Have I mentioned lately that I really love Texas?
Uh. um.
...
You can't drive on snow! neenerneener
Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Fingers at January 03, 2014 05:18 AM (3ZtZW)
My true love gave to me,
A second chance to hit from the ladies' tee.
Posted by: Fritz at January 03, 2014 05:19 AM (TKFmG)
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 03, 2014 09:17 AM (7FA6G)
I agree! In fact, they should have to walk MY dog when it's this damn cold. And I don't have a dog. I will go out and GET a dog just so those fuckers have to walk it for me.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at January 03, 2014 05:20 AM (4df7R)
'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!' a coughing Maria Galvez told MailOnline outside the Inova Healthplex facility in the town of Springfield.
Sorry, kid. Even unicorn farts end up smelling.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 03, 2014 05:21 AM (zF6Iw)
http://tinyurl.com/jvojdax
Obama lies about brother.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 03, 2014 05:23 AM (BZAd3)
They said they could send a technician out in -> #two weeks.
So they advised I use compressed air on the pilot light first. See if its clogged in anyway. So shopping expedition for today but I was going out to have lunch with a friend so. Hey side trip to WalMart.
If that doesn't work, then call them back to schedule.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 03, 2014 05:31 AM (5oU9c)
316: "An increase in gang/cartel violence as they compete for a narrower slice of the smuggling pie?"
When was the last time anyone heard of (without googling it) a shootout over gin distribution?
You are correct that there would be an increase in the intensity of violence. For a while.
The question I have is can the beast be starved? Would a reduction in cashflow lead to a reduction in the number of zetas that the cartel bosses can hire? Would this lead to an overall reduction in violence in the USA?
Of course my preference would be to hand the black bag back over to the CIA and tell them to end this shit. But I'm rather bloodthirsty. Guess it's a good thing I'm not in power.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 03, 2014 05:32 AM (f6ZLT)
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Posted by: E Pluribus Unum at January 03, 2014 06:49 AM (IzLGE)
https://twitter.com/TweetsfromOYW
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