February 19, 2014

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— Gabriel Malor

Uh oh.

Some powerful images coming out of Kiev.


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Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 02:51 AM | Comments (321)
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1 Morning. That picture...

Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2014 02:53 AM (4KFgL)

2 Morning!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 19, 2014 02:56 AM (b/lt+)

3 The picture at Drudge of the guy on fire in Kiev is very unsettling as well.

Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2014 02:56 AM (4KFgL)

4 I don't understand what is going on in the Ukraine.

Why does the Ukraine need to make a "choice" between Russia and the EU?  Why can't the Ukraine have good relations with both?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 19, 2014 02:57 AM (b/lt+)

5 God be with him! So many stories the news media either totally embargoes or takes quite some time in ever reporting. When, for instance, will we get pictures of Venezuala. We probably won't because Chavez was Obama's friend.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 19, 2014 02:57 AM (XyM/Y)

6 DAY 475 993 to go (1,068 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, McAuliffe's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 02:58 AM (olDqf)

7 What's happening to the south in Kiev on the Caribbean?? The world wonders. And SCOAMF/MFM deflects.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 02:59 AM (olDqf)

8 2 Posted by: Gran at February 19, 2014 06:55 AM (nPMjI) Speaking of John Frankenheimer, don't waste your time and money on "The Monuments Men." Rent "The Train." A Sefton favorite.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:01 AM (olDqf)

9 I wish Gabe would put up a music video. I appreciate his music choices.

Posted by: Said No One, Ever [/i] at February 19, 2014 03:02 AM (CnA98)

10 Justine Bateman has a pretty interesting blog. She's at ucla majoring in computer science.

Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2014 03:02 AM (4KFgL)

11 That is one brave man.

Posted by: Registered Voter at February 19, 2014 03:02 AM (nUbHY)

12 That's some courage right there.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 19, 2014 03:03 AM (gmoEG)

13 As a Jew, I have very mixed emotions about Russia and the Ukraine. Let's just say, I feel bad for the children and truly innocent.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:03 AM (olDqf)

14 We saw "The Monuments Men" a few weeks ago.  It was incredibly meh.  Not bad.. but I had higher hopes from that cast.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 19, 2014 03:03 AM (b/lt+)

15 That priest is up there with the Chinese guy who stopped that PLA tank column in Tiananmen.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:04 AM (olDqf)

16 You know who is brave? Michael Sam.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 19, 2014 03:04 AM (ipdEn)

17 JJ @ 9 I have no intentions of giving that smug a**hole Clooney any of my money. He is cinematic Kryptonite to me. Any exposure to him and I immediately feel ill.

Posted by: Gran at February 19, 2014 03:05 AM (nPMjI)

18 10 Ouch!

All good morning all.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 19, 2014 03:05 AM (vVOWk)

19 So after the nc guv got the food store guy fired, whatever, the charlotte mayor has stepped in to be the good guy and to find the guy a job. Repubs, bad. Dems, good. Got it?

Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2014 03:05 AM (4KFgL)

20 Mornin' Horde.

Posted by: Boone at February 19, 2014 03:05 AM (Oh5Ir)

21 15 We saw "The Monuments Men" a few weeks ago. It was incredibly meh. Not bad.. but I had higher hopes from that cast. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 19, 2014 07:03 AM (b/lt+) The thought of Matt Damon in a US Army uniform makes me ill. Anything he is in has commie stank on it. Why give them money with which to bash us? Anyway, go see "The Train."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:05 AM (olDqf)

22 I've got a question re: Kiev. So I'm reading these stories, seems like the opposition forces have been camped out (Occupying if you will) since fucking November because they're mad the president signed some deal with Russia rather than the EU as the Occupy crowd wants. Now, did the president and his party actually do anything illegal in this? It doesn't seem like it from what I've seen, just sort of looks like the opposition is pulling the old stomp our feet and be a nuisance until you do what we want, kind of like our own Leftists.


Furthermore, I saw yesterday that something like 18 people were killed, 7 of them police. I'm assuming the police are armed and the opposition largely ain't, so when such a high percentage of the killed are the police, I suspect these opposition protestors are taking the lead in the violence here.


I'm not saying I think the president and his pro-Russia side are any good there, I just don't really know the situation well enough to take a side. I can't just jump on the poor oppressed protestor bandwagon when it seems to me like the opposition is no better than who they're fighting.

Posted by: mugiwara at February 19, 2014 03:05 AM (3a584)

23 *And*  Duh.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 19, 2014 03:06 AM (vVOWk)

24 NCKate @ 11 So she does... I wonder why she went back to school for CompSci? http://getacollegelife.tumblr.com/

Posted by: Gran at February 19, 2014 03:07 AM (nPMjI)

25 Read the book Monument Men and skip the movie.

Posted by: Lester at February 19, 2014 03:07 AM (2UPXV)

26 We saw "The Monuments Men" a few weeks ago. 'Why save the Jews when we can save their Art Collections?' - Stuff FDR said, Vol. I

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 03:08 AM (ipdEn)

27 Gran, I don't know. But she seems pretty sharp. And somewhat normal.

Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2014 03:08 AM (4KFgL)

28 Did Putin strong-arm the Ukie govt. or did they willingly side with him against the will of the people? I imagine it's the latter, since the people would be venting their anger at a Russian embassy or some-such.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:08 AM (olDqf)

29 The story of that priest is really the story of Obama. 

Posted by: MFM at February 19, 2014 03:09 AM (kHyGq)

30 27 We saw "The Monuments Men" a few weeks ago. 'Why save the Jews when we can save their Art Collections?' - Stuff FDR said, Vol. I Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 07:08 AM (ipdEn) "It may be degenerate art, but it looks good in the room with my model trains." Stuff Goering Said, Vol. 1.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:10 AM (olDqf)

31 17 You know who is brave?

Michael Sam.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 19, 2014 07:04 AM (ipdEn)


If I go the rest of my life and never find out another person is gay I would be just find with that.

Posted by: Dandolo at February 19, 2014 03:10 AM (0XBx+)

32 30 The story of that priest is really the story of Obama. Posted by: MFM at February 19, 2014 07:09 AM (kHyGq) The story of the guy on fire is the story of America and Obama playing with a Zippo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:11 AM (olDqf)

33 At the rate we're going, it'll be big news when someone in the spotlight comes out as hetero.

Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2014 03:11 AM (4KFgL)

34 20 NCKate

Yeah. That's someone I want working for me. An employee that shows no respect for the customer and admits he doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

The mayor probably found him a job at city hall in the tax department.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 19, 2014 03:12 AM (vVOWk)

35 5 I don't understand what is going on in the Ukraine. Why does the Ukraine need to make a "choice" between Russia and the EU? Why can't the Ukraine have good relations with both? Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 19, 2014 06:57 AM (b/lt+) Q&A with Hannah Thoburn: What exactly is happening in Ukraine? http://tinyurl.com/pem4co7

Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 03:12 AM (zpNwC)

36 34 At the rate we're going, it'll be big news when someone in the spotlight comes out as hetero. Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2014 07:11 AM (4KFgL) Maybe at next year's Tony Awards.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:13 AM (olDqf)

37 I can't tell, is the shotgun pointed at the priest or over his shoulder? Neither are a good thing.

And it turned out real, real bad for the guy with shopping bags at tiananmen square.

Posted by: Xenophon at February 19, 2014 03:13 AM (JNMaY)

38 I have no intentions of giving that smug a**hole Clooney any of my money. He is cinematic Kryptonite to me. Any exposure to him and I immediately feel ill.

Posted by: Gran at February 19, 2014 07:05 AM (nPMjI)



Every time I see pretty boy Clooney on a trailer for one of his dogshit movies or appearing on Letterperv's trained seals show he looks like a fucking pinheaded dunce.  You can take the hilljack out of Kentucky but...

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 03:14 AM (2RiXU)

39 And it turned out real, real bad for the guy with shopping bags at tiananmen square. You never met my wife.

Posted by: Zombie Protester at February 19, 2014 03:14 AM (ipdEn)

40 I did see footage of about 40 molotov cocktails impacting on some of the military's BMPs they were sending in to break the barricades. Both sides at this point look like they've got some organization going. This will not end well, or quickly.

Posted by: Xenophon at February 19, 2014 03:15 AM (JNMaY)

41 Someone ate one of the legs off of that Priests Gingerbread Man.

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 03:16 AM (ipdEn)

42 Both sides at this point look like they've got some organization going. This will not end well, or quickly.
Posted by: Xenophon

Maybe they're protesting a movie about Muslims?

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 03:16 AM (ArgKc)

43 Thanks, BornLib!  just what I was looking for...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 19, 2014 03:16 AM (b/lt+)

44 Morning, all.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 19, 2014 03:16 AM (zF6Iw)

45 Why does the Ukraine need to make a "choice" between Russia and the EU? Why can't the Ukraine have good relations with both?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 19, 2014 06:57 AM (b/lt+)

The Russians regard the Ukraine as their backyard, the Ukrainians disagree.  Add to the problem, that EU are a bunch of conniving clowns and Putin loves to compromise ... 50/50 odds on the Russians rolling in an Armored Division or two to protect their people. 

Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2014 03:17 AM (4JkHl)

46 World Affairs Journal: Should There Be One Ukraine? http://tinyurl.com/l63xqkw

Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 03:18 AM (zpNwC)

47 Daily Devotional from "The Upper Room": http://devotional.upperroom.org/devotionals/2014-02-19

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 19, 2014 03:18 AM (XyM/Y)

48 I saw Monuments Men. Wife wanted to go. Saw the cheap morning show. It could have been much better, a very uneven movie.
I will look for the book. Who wrote it?

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 03:18 AM (ArgKc)

49 This must be made up. Otherwise the American President would give moral support to the the protesters. Like the Green Revolution in Iran.

Posted by: dirks strewn at February 19, 2014 03:19 AM (77F0w)

50 If Putin gets sucked into the Ukraine, it would be the perfect time for the Muzzies to hit the Moscow subway or a kindergarten or two.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:19 AM (olDqf)

51 The fireworks at the closing ceremony are going to be nothing compared to what Putin unleashes when the rest of the world goes home.

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 03:20 AM (ipdEn)

52 >>>50/50 odds on the Russians rolling in an Armored Division or two to protect their people.

Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2014 07:17 AM (4JkHl)<<<



The deuce you say!

Posted by: Gorgia... no, that other one at February 19, 2014 03:21 AM (kHyGq)

53 Bruce, the one I bought is by Edsel. Robert, I think. Haven't started it yet.

Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2014 03:21 AM (4KFgL)

54 50 This must be made up. Otherwise the American President would give moral support to the the protesters. Like the Green Revolution in Iran. Posted by: dirks strewn at February 19, 2014 07:19 AM (77F0w) Oh great. SCOAMF wants to show up Putin by starting a war in the Ukraine?! 1914 - the Guns of August 2014 - the Nukes of February...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:21 AM (olDqf)

55 The American Interest: Kiev Is Burning http://wp.me/p4ja0Z-lWE

Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 03:22 AM (zpNwC)

56 53 Posted by: Gorgia... no, that other one at February 19, 2014 07:21 AM (kHyGq) Gorgia? Hail hail, fire and snow. Call the Angel we will goÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:22 AM (olDqf)

57 Something rather "stagey" looking about that photo.  I haven't been paying attention, so I'm not sure who the actors are,  who are the good guys/bad guys, but it's not like we've never seen photographs being used as propaganda before.

Frankly, I think the garb is a bit much for a street protest, and it's one of those things where the angle makes it look like the gun is pointed at the priest, but it's almost assuredly not. 

Plus the guy looks like one of the Bawwin brothers.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 19, 2014 03:22 AM (BeSEI)

58 @53

er, Georgia that is.

Posted by: Georgia... no, that other one at February 19, 2014 03:22 AM (kHyGq)

59 I never had a Pez dispenser as a kid. (Insert "you had Pez dispensers? We had to make do with" joke here.) I don't think I ever quite 'got' a toy that shoots candy out of its neck. And that you just eat the candy because filling the dispenser has such a low rate of return on the effort. Several years back, my kids got me a Hammy the Squirrel Pez disp... is dispenser what they're called? That's what I've always called 'em, but now that I'm typing that over and over, I wonder... anyway... Hammy the hyper crazy squirrel from Over the Hedge. Hilariously semi-obscure character for Pez disp. So, checking out the leftover Valentine's candy at the grocery, I see Pez, so I include that with the cinnamon redhots I'm loading up on for Milady's cinnamon apple pies. When I get home, and unwrap a Pez candy pack... every candy was broken. Most of the next one, too. After three packs, I'd found enough complete candies to fill Hammy. Just what I remembered - too much hassle. Hammy goes back on the Collectables shelf with the "action figures" of Dr Who #4 and Marie Antoinette with pop-off head. § I dreamed Backhoe had to have his collie put down. I sure hope that was a dream! But apparently you guys are really starting to get inside my head. Perhaps I should find other bedtime reading than the ONT. § Earlier, I sat staring at the morning post, sitting naked of comments, decided I had nothing worth "First"-ing about, then went off and wrote all this. Now to go read what you dream people are writing. Morning, Glories! God bless y'alls' day.

Posted by: mindful webworker - ead tips back at February 19, 2014 03:22 AM (7KxSm)

60 Time to put on Mussorgky's "Gates of Kiev." The ELP version.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:23 AM (olDqf)

61 Reason: Ukraine: "The War Is Here." Over 20 Dead and 1,000 Injured http://tinyurl.com/p5s43vc

Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 03:24 AM (zpNwC)

62 Watch al-Jazeera post a photo of a Ukrainian father holding his dead child with the caption: "CRUEL IDF KILLS INNOCENT CHILD."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:25 AM (olDqf)

63 The odd part of the pic is that the Orthodox priest would generically be on the "side" of the Russians, not the Protestors.  Is he protecting the police, who are trapped by an angry mob of Ukrainian Catholics?

Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2014 03:25 AM (4JkHl)

64 I expect a massive chemical weapons attack in Syria.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:26 AM (olDqf)

65 Bruce, the one I bought is by Edsel. Robert, I think. Haven't started it yet. Posted by: NCKate

Thank you!

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 03:26 AM (ArgKc)

66 @49 Robert M. Edsel wrote "The Monuments Men: Allied Heroes, Nazi Thieves, and the Greatest Treasure Hunt in History"

Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 03:26 AM (zpNwC)

67 60 Posted by: mindful webworker - ead tips back at February 19, 2014 07:22 AM (7KxSm) In Soviet Union, Pez dispense YOU!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:27 AM (olDqf)

68 Speaking of John Frankenheimer, don't waste your time and money on "The Monuments Men."

Rent "The Train." A Sefton favorite.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 07:01 AM (olDqf)

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The wife and I saw "The Monuments Men" this weekend, we enjoyed it. The scene with Bill Murray in the shower hearing the record of his wife and children being was quite powerful.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 19, 2014 03:27 AM (KlVdw)

69 In a way, isn't the priest in Kiev  the story of Barack Obama?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 19, 2014 03:27 AM (zF6Iw)

70 In the new Legos movie the bad guy's name is Lord Business, voiced by enthusiastic Obama propagandist Will Ferrell. Really. I guess when the filmmakers got their marching orders from Organizing for America it must have been decided Lord Capitalism or Lord Free Market might be too far over little kids' heads. And MP4, maybe I can ask pretty please for a good story about James Coburn..... just watched The Magnificent Seven the other day and fell in love with him again. "I was aiming for the horse!"

Posted by: Gem at February 19, 2014 03:28 AM (zw+pb)

71 I expect a massive chemical weapons attack in Syria. A real attack? Or another 'own goal' from al Nusra and Co.?

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 03:28 AM (ipdEn)

72

Ah, I see the joke was made.

 

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 19, 2014 03:28 AM (zF6Iw)

73 I was trying to edit the Sig and the cell starts reloading the page. I thought at first I'd just lost all I'd writen and was surprised to see it had posted. I'd be more embarrassed about such a TL ramble, except, I'm too relieved it wasn't all list. Virtual is a funny reality.

Posted by: mindful webworker - head tips back at February 19, 2014 03:28 AM (i5xnd)

74 67 @49 Robert M. Edsel wrote "The Monuments Men: Allied Heroes, Nazi Thieves, and the Greatest Treasure Hunt in History" Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 07:26 AM (zpNwC) Had a very dear friend of mine who used to do pro-bono work with art fraud and repatriation. Passed away about 15 years ago of brain cancer at the age of 37. And she was top of the class at Harvard Law about the time SCOAMF was allegedly there.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:28 AM (olDqf)

75 What's going on in Ukraine is the end result of dividing your country up into two groups and making the other group the evil, kinda like what's going to happen in the US between black and white, rich and poor, Christian and not Christian.

When your 'leaders' choose to reward their friends and tell you to punish your enemies, what you see in Ukraine (or Venezuela, or Syria) is where you end up.

Posted by: Y.B. Normal at February 19, 2014 03:29 AM (m8tBL)

76 67 @49 Robert M. Edsel wrote "The Monuments Men: Allied Heroes, Nazi Thieves, and the Greatest Treasure Hunt in History" Posted by: BornLib

Thank you!

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 03:30 AM (ArgKc)

77 69 The scene with Bill Murray in the shower hearing the record of his wife and children being was quite powerful. Posted by: Darth Randall at February 19, 2014 07:27 AM (KlVdw) His wife and child being _____ ? Fill in blank, please.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:30 AM (olDqf)

78

Yeah. That's someone I want working for me. An employee that shows no respect for the customer and admits he doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut

 

Better that than some "oh, allow me to serve you, my lord!" nickelfucker who thinks politicians are deserving of any respect at all.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 19, 2014 03:31 AM (zF6Iw)

79 Pro East Ukrainian blogger explains from his pov The map explains it best - it's a geographic split http://preview.tinyurl.com/koj2bo8

Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 03:31 AM (GSIDW)

80 Repubs, bad. Dems, good. Got it?

Posted by: NCKate at February 19, 2014 07:05 AM (4KFgL)



How about we just say that the NC gov is a prick?  Because whether Repub or Dem he is one.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 19, 2014 03:32 AM (gmoEG)

81

His wife and child being _____ ? Fill in blank, please.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 07:30 AM (olDqf)

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Ooops, that should read "hearing the record of his wife and children being played was quite powerful". 

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 19, 2014 03:33 AM (KlVdw)

82 In honor of the Orthodox Priest holding up a cross and trying to stop violence in the Ukraine, I present today's "hymn"-The Great Doxology from the Orthodox Church http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jawFHHtqzD8 You don't have to know Russian to appreciate. Just let the music wash over you. The pictures are very nice. I don't know Russian but some of the words to the Great Doxology in English are: Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, Good will toward men. We praise Thee, we bless Thee, we worship Thee, we glorify Thee, we give thanks to Thee for Thy great glory. O Lord, Heavenly King, God the Father almighty. O Lord, the only begotten Son, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. O Lord God, Lamb of God, Son of the Father, who takest away the sin of the world have mercy on us. Thou who takest away the sin of the world, receive our prayer. Thou who sittest at the right hand of the Father, have mercy on us. For Thou alone art holy, Thou alone art the Lord, Jesus Christ, to the glory of God the Father. Amen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 19, 2014 03:33 AM (XyM/Y)

83

And MP4, maybe I can ask pretty please for a good story about James Coburn..... just watched The Magnificent Seven the other day and fell in love with him again.

 

Don't know any Coburn stories.  He is on the cover of the Band On The Run album, though.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 19, 2014 03:33 AM (SjUPQ)

84 That place where Old Keynesians go to die ...

I chose Solow as my dissertation adviser, and I wrote an outside-in thesis, working backwards from what we observe to a theory of price rigidity. Not having a thesis that focused on rational expectations and not having Fischer plugging for me were career-altering. I was doomed to failure if I tried academia, and so I wound up on a different track. I donÂ’t think I was the one who lost out on that deal.

Posted by: Michael Milken at February 19, 2014 03:34 AM (e8kgV)

85 If you are a fan of Houdini or his memorabilia, then you want to be in Garnet Valley, PA on Friday - http://www.briggsauction.com/auctions.php?auction=145

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at February 19, 2014 03:35 AM (HsTG8)

86 8 days (1 wk 1 day)

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 8 days (1wk 1days) until spring training at February 19, 2014 03:36 AM (u8GsB)

87 "How about we just say that the NC gov is a prick? Because whether Repub or Dem he is one."

Mikey. May be. But way better than the last one (or 3).

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 19, 2014 03:36 AM (vVOWk)

88 If you prefer spirits, check out New Hampshire and Wyoming – the excise taxes there are $0.00 per gallon.

Posted by: Dean Martin at February 19, 2014 03:37 AM (e8kgV)

89 People still think of Russia as a country. Russia is actually a large oil and gas company with an army and nuclear weapons. Gazprom's disputes with the Ukraine stretch back about 10 years. The Ukraine was stealing gas heading for the EU through their pipelines. If they join the EU, it gives the Ukraine certain mutual assistance benefits that limit Russia's options in the future.

Posted by: jwest at February 19, 2014 03:38 AM (u2a4R)

90 Rent "The Train." A Sefton favorite. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 07:01 AM (olDqf) Good movie. Top notch Lancaster.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 19, 2014 03:38 AM (rfp9k)

91 Notorious killer from 1980s shows up in Milwaukee jury pool

http://t.co/lthaVRjCM5

Posted by: HR at February 19, 2014 03:38 AM (hO8IJ)

92 Fin v Rus on NBCSN

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 03:39 AM (ipdEn)

93 But way better than the last one (or 3).

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 19, 2014 07:36 AM (vVOWk)


I'll grant you on the last one (don't know the other two) but if you are governor please expect to meet jerks and expect to smile and wave when they tell you off.  You don't go all Obama on small people when you are governor.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 19, 2014 03:39 AM (gmoEG)

94 32 If I go the rest of my life and never find out another person is gay I would be just find with that. Posted by: Dandolo at February 19, 2014 07:10 AM (0XBx+) In many ways, the story of all gays is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at February 19, 2014 03:40 AM (HsTG8)

95 @63 Watch Reuters post a photo of a Ukrainian father holding his dead child with the caption: "CRUEL IDF KILLS INNOCENT CHILD." Fixed it for you.

Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 03:40 AM (zpNwC)

96 In Soviet Union, Pez dispense YOU! Posted by: J.J. Sefton Oh, thanks, friend Sefton. My post stuck out amongst the Kiev quips like a cymbal-clanging windup monkey at a prayer meeting, but you helped tie it in.

Posted by: mindful webworker - head tips back at February 19, 2014 03:41 AM (1zmtP)

97 5 I don't understand what is going on in the Ukraine. Why does the Ukraine need to make a "choice" between Russia and the EU? Why can't the Ukraine have good relations with both? Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 19, 2014 06:57 AM (b/lt+) Neither do I. I thought, up until recently, that they were doing well. Huh.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 19, 2014 03:41 AM (rfp9k)

98 When, for instance, will we get pictures of Venezuala. Not allowed in Amerizuela. We probably won't because Chavez was Obama's friend. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 19, 2014 06:57 AM (XyM/Y) Bestest buddies.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 19, 2014 03:43 AM (rfp9k)

99 The US Embassy in Belgrade was burned in 2008? Who knew?
Was it ever reported?

When the guy says "burned" does he mean a petrol bomb was thrown in the general direction? What does 'torched' mean? (aramaxima.wordpress.com) and whodahell is dis guy?

Posted by: Y.B. Normal at February 19, 2014 03:44 AM (m8tBL)

100 Bestest buddies.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire

Naked pillow fight (bite) buddies?

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 03:44 AM (ArgKc)

101 For any MA morons - Yuengling beer will be sold beginning March 1.  Taverns will have it on tap on Friday.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 19, 2014 03:44 AM (zF6Iw)

102 80 Along the same lines: Reason: Ukraine's Revolution Beyond the Chaos http://tinyurl.com/kj8x8ab

Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 03:45 AM (zpNwC)

103 64 The odd part of the pic is that the Orthodox priest would generically be on the "side" of the Russians, not the Protestors. Is he protecting the police, who are trapped by an angry mob of Ukrainian Catholics? Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2014 07:25 AM (4JkHl) Not necessarily - there is a Ukrainian Orthodox Church, separate from the Russian Orthodox Church. The UOC which sponsors our Boy Scout Troop has a memorial garden to commemorate Ukrainians who were purged by Stalin in the 30s.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at February 19, 2014 03:46 AM (HsTG8)

104 Taverns will have it on tap on Friday.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 19, 2014 07:44 AM (zF6Iw)

Ah...the Coors of the East Coast.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 19, 2014 03:46 AM (QFxY5)

105 For any MA morons - Yuengling beer will be sold beginning March 1. Taverns will have it on tap on Friday.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

I first had one in Penn. while visiting relatives about 20 years ago. I do like it, but it is not available in Ill. where I live. When I go to Florida it is available, but it is brewed in Tampa, and it just tastes differently not as good. I think it's the water.

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 03:46 AM (ArgKc)

106 I for one would like to see Sheldon Adelson and the Koch Brothers give money to the rebels in Venezuela. I know it's against the law, but hey. Look who's in the DoJ and WH.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:47 AM (olDqf)

107 ....Obama playing with a Zippo.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 07:11 AM

Isn't that the story of this presidency?

Posted by: Lester at February 19, 2014 03:47 AM (2UPXV)

108 And as far as the Orthodox priest-He knows who he belongs to. I think that gives him courage. If he gets killed it will be an example of no greater love than that of "laying down your life for your friends." The guy at Tiannemen (sp) Square had tremendous courage too because he believed in something bigger than himself and was standing in the face of tyranny.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 19, 2014 03:48 AM (XyM/Y)

109 "For the purposes of this essay, ‘the West’ will signify the cabal of cosmopolitan universalists who run the governments of the United States and the European Union"

Oh ya, that's gonna be a tagline.

Posted by: Y.B. Normal at February 19, 2014 03:48 AM (m8tBL)

110 Never even heard of Yuengling until about 10 years ago when it appeared in NYC. Thought it was Chinese. Pretty good. But now Anheuser-Busch owns it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:48 AM (olDqf)

111 Kovalchuk puts the Ruskies up 1 - 0.

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 03:48 AM (ipdEn)

112 110 Posted by: Y.B. Normal at February 19, 2014 07:48 AM (m8tBL) Cabal sounds like Kabbala. Ergo, JOO!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:49 AM (olDqf)

113 100 posts and no Vic. Just doesn't seen right.

Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 03:49 AM (zpNwC)

114 our Boy Scout Troop has a memorial garden to commemorate Ukrainians who were purged by Stalin in the 30s.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at February 19, 2014 07:46 AM (HsTG

Wow. It must be the size of Central Park.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 19, 2014 03:49 AM (QFxY5)

115 Stand up and take a bow Chuckski, Oh sorry, what am I saying, you got your legs blown off at the protest.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 19, 2014 03:50 AM (WCnJW)

116 114 100 posts and no Vic. Just doesn't seen right. Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 07:49 AM (zpNwC) Look closely at the picture of the priestÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:51 AM (olDqf)

117

117: "Look closely at the picture of the priestÂ…"

 

Rasputin still lives?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 03:53 AM (v6cwT)

118 Ukraine was part of the area concentrated on in Bloodlands.  Stalin fucked the place over terribly with his collective farms, exporting everything they produced while starving them to the point of cannibalism.  If I lived there I'd be in a permanent "fuck the rooskis" mode.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 03:53 AM (2RiXU)

119 Isn't that the story of this presidency? Thx. That made me laugh. You guys come up with some really funny things with, "Isn't that the story..." lines.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 19, 2014 03:54 AM (XyM/Y)

120 From last month, but useful....

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/01/31/qa-what-exactly-is-happening-in-ukraine/

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 19, 2014 03:55 AM (QFxY5)

121 118 117: "Look closely at the picture of the priestÂ…" Rasputin still lives? Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 07:53 AM (v6cwT) Putin, Rasputin, Rasputin, Putin, Let's call the whole thing off!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:55 AM (olDqf)

122 If I lived there I'd be in a permanent "fuck the rooskis" mode.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 07:53 AM (2RiXU)

Well....I live here and I am in permanent "fuck the rooskis" mode.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 19, 2014 03:56 AM (QFxY5)

123 From votermom's link at #80

"And if PutinÂ’s recent anti-American pronouncements are any indication, he knows Russia wonÂ’t need to wait long before its invaders run out of money and go home to deal with their own overdue ethnic conflicts. "


Posted by: Y.B. Normal at February 19, 2014 03:56 AM (m8tBL)

124 Pretty good. But now Anheuser-Busch owns it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

When did they buy it? Everything I see is it is still independent.

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 03:56 AM (ArgKc)

125 100 posts and no Vic. Just doesn't seen right. Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 07:49 AM (zpNwC) Look closely at the picture of the priest He looks like he's yelling "Get off my lawn!"

Posted by: rickb223 at February 19, 2014 03:57 AM (p9JxP)

126 125 Pretty good. But now Anheuser-Busch owns it. Posted by: J.J. Sefton When did they buy it? Everything I see is it is still independent. Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 07:56 AM (ArgKc) I want to say about 5 years ago. Am I wrong?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:57 AM (olDqf)

127 Putin sort of blackmailed Ukraine with cheap natural gas contracts is my understanding. The thing is that is perfectly legal. Choose between being European or freeze your ass off.

Posted by: Lester at February 19, 2014 03:57 AM (2UPXV)

128 126 He looks like he's yelling "Get off my lawn!" Posted by: rickb223 at February 19, 2014 07:57 AM (p9JxP) Or "Of course you realize this means an angry letter to the Times."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 03:58 AM (olDqf)

129 'Only' about one more week of meteorological winter left. Good riddance.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 19, 2014 03:59 AM (CnA98)

130

126: "He looks like he's yelling "Get off my lawn!"

 

Have you ever seen Vic and Rasputin in the same place?

 

Hmmmmmm?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 03:59 AM (LJpVo)

131 103 - yup. One would think they could just split up but that would mean Putin losing control of the oil/gas fields of Western Ukraine.

Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 03:59 AM (GSIDW)

132 got me, again with the Oh, oh video hehe the image of that priest is chilling these are the selfless martyrs that are being slaughtered on a daily basis across the ME

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 19, 2014 03:59 AM (IXrOn)

133 I want to say about 5 years ago. Am I wrong? Posted by: J.J. Sefton

I believe so. They are listed as Americas largest American owned brewery.

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 04:00 AM (ArgKc)

134 128 Putin sort of blackmailed Ukraine with cheap natural gas contracts is my understanding. The thing is that is perfectly legal. Choose between being European or freeze your ass off. Posted by: Lester at February 19, 2014 07:57 AM (2UPXV) And Azerbaijan is blocked off. I suppose tankers could ship oil via the Black Sea, but there's that pesky Russian Black Sea Fleet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 04:01 AM (olDqf)

135 D.G. Yuengling & Son, Inc. is owned and operated by Richard (Dick) Yuengling, Jr. This fifth generation owner is in the Pottsville facilities daily. DickÂ’s passion is in the brew house, on the bottling line and at the truck docks. However, he can be found in the lab for his morning coffee followed by daily visits to each department.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 19, 2014 04:01 AM (QFxY5)

136 I think Yuengling contracted with Anheuser-Busch or Anheuser-Busch union to distribute it. That's my memory anyway, from many beers ago.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 19, 2014 04:01 AM (CnA98)

137 134 I want to say about 5 years ago. Am I wrong? Posted by: J.J. Sefton I believe so. They are listed as Americas largest American owned brewery. Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 08:00 AM (ArgKc) I think that I had heard AB wanting to buy them, or of a pending deal. I guess it went south so all for the better.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 04:01 AM (olDqf)

138 127 your wrong JJ. Lager is independent. Largest inde. in the US.

Posted by: redenzo at February 19, 2014 04:01 AM (WCnJW)

139

And, since I'm  never (well, hardly ever) on the ONT, here's the one Doonesbury comic I actually thought was funny:

 

http://tinyurl.com/q7rsbqf


 

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 19, 2014 04:02 AM (zF6Iw)

140 D.G. Yuengling Son, Inc. is owned and operated by Richard (Dick) Yuengling, Jr. This fifth generation owner is in the Pottsville facilities daily. DickÂ’s passion is in the brew house, on the bottling line and at the truck docks. However, he can be found in the lab for his morning coffee followed by daily visits to each department. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

I think I had seen an article about him a while back. He has 2 daughters. They will take over the business when he retires, but, they will follow the German tradition of buying the company from him. That way, they have some skin in the game.

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 04:03 AM (ArgKc)

141 Here it is... D.G. Yuengling and Son Inc. is tapping the Anheuser-Busch InBev distributing network for its much-anticipated launch into Ohio later this year.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 19, 2014 04:03 AM (CnA98)

142 132 103 - yup. One would think they could just split up but that would mean Putin losing control of the oil/gas fields of Western Ukraine. Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 07:59 AM (GSIDW) Russia has so much friggin' oil and gas in its interior, but a) it's probably inaccessible and b) they don't want anyone near them not to be dependent upon them. Fucking mongoloid barbarians.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 04:03 AM (olDqf)

143 cue Biden to chime in that they should carve out a portion of the Ukraine for the protesters to go live.

Posted by: cu'chulainn at February 19, 2014 04:04 AM (Vk2CC)

144 141 That way, they have some skin in the game. Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 08:03 AM (ArgKc) That's what the "moyle" saidÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 04:04 AM (olDqf)

145 23 I've got a question re: Kiev. So I'm reading these stories, seems like the opposition forces have been camped out (Occupying if you will) since fucking November because they're mad the president signed some deal with Russia rather than the EU as the Occupy crowd wants. Now, did the president and his party actually do anything illegal in this? Posted by: mugiwara at February 19, 2014 07:05 AM (3a584) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25323964 In February 2010, when he was elected, Viktor Yanukovych enjoyed support from most of the big businessmen. He quickly formed a cabinet that represented - by my count - nine different enterprise groups. But through a rapid series of governmental changes he reduced this number to two by December 2013. At present, the government - and increasingly the economy - is dominated by a group of young businessmen who are friends with Mr Yanukovych's eldest son Oleksandr, 40. They are widely known as the Yanukovych "family". However, who owns what is not exactly clear, and it is possible that in fact much of the wealth might belong to Mr Yanukovych's real family. These young businessmen from Donetsk, Mr Yanukovych's eastern home region, hold all the key economic positions in the government as well as the powerful post of interior minister. Mr Yanukovych has used a salami tactic against the tycoons. Young businessmen or corporate raiders buy out their enterprises one after the other. These sales have been described as not very voluntary, given that the "family" controls law enforcement, courts and the tax authorities. http://hotair.com/archives/2014/01/31/qa-what-exactly-is-happening-in-ukraine/ What was the reason for YanukovychÂ’s rejection of the EU deal? Is this just another story of a former Russian satellite cozying up to Putin? There are a lot of factors, but at the end of the day, they have in fact chosen to go with the Russian offer to buy $15 billion of Ukrainian credits. The Ukrainian economy is in a really, really, terrible state and they need that money to stay afloat. They could have an equal amount of money from the IMF, but [Russian money is] easier and it doesnÂ’t come with any of the restrictions that Western money does. The West wants you to do these reforms and end corruption. The administration now, corruption is what makes them tick. TheyÂ’re in it to get rich and going with Putin means they donÂ’t have to give it all up. I personally think itÂ’s very short sighted. but theyÂ’re doing whatever works for them.

Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 04:05 AM (zpNwC)

146 Professor Stephen Cohen of NYU (Slavic Studies) was on with O'Reilly last evening defending Putin. Only an expert on Russia and its history of warlord government could possibly apply nuance to the ranking of Putin versus Stalin, Lenin, Peter the Great or the other murdering scum in Russian I story, and come out concluding that we all ought to just get along with Putin because he's kind of a nice guy. As autocratic tyrants go, he means. In Russia. Only because of our weak President are people dying in Ukraine right now.

Posted by: MTF at February 19, 2014 04:05 AM (F58x4)

147

OK, all, I've got a desk of work and a new novel corner to write myself out of.

 

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 19, 2014 04:05 AM (zF6Iw)

148 Selame puts the Fins up 2 - 1.

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 04:06 AM (ipdEn)

149 Is Chuck Berry still alive? I think we should get him to do a jingle for Yuengling. "My Ying-a-ling, my Ying-a-ling, I want you to drink my Ying-a-ling-a-lingÂ…"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 04:06 AM (olDqf)

150

Not so long ago that Priest would have been a Kommisar, yelling and pointing towards the crowd, directing the fire.

 

Man, they just can't get a break.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at February 19, 2014 04:06 AM (3ZtZW)

151 I think Yuengling contracted with Anheuser-Busch or Anheuser-Busch union to distribute it. That's my memory anyway, from many beers ago. Posted by: SE Pa Moron

I hope not. That's what Goose Island Brewery did to help them get into more markets. Now AB InBev owns over 50 percent, and the rest will probably get sold to them also.

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 04:06 AM (ArgKc)

152 'Only' about one more week of meteorological winter left. Good riddance. 82 in DFW yesterday. F U old man winter!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 19, 2014 04:08 AM (p9JxP)

153 G'day all. Off to torture my body with some exercises.

Posted by: Bruce at February 19, 2014 04:08 AM (ArgKc)

154 D.G. Yuengling and Son Inc. is tapping the Anheuser-Busch InBev distributing network for its much-anticipated launch into Ohio later this year.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at February 19, 2014 08:03 AM (CnA9



Yuengling has been in Ohio for a while.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 04:09 AM (2RiXU)

155 143 The comment upthread about Russia being an oil company with nukes is more true than not. Putin does not just want energy independence for Russia, he wants to have energy dominance in the whole area. Like in any competitive business, either you are number one or you go out of business.

Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 04:09 AM (GSIDW)

156

148: "Only because of our weak President are people dying in Ukraine right now."

 

Not that I care for SCOAMF, but what could ANY U.S. president do that would have prevented this?

 

Where do we draw the line on which toaster we will or will not stick our dick into?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 04:10 AM (OJn3e)

157 128 Putin sort of blackmailed Ukraine with cheap natural gas contracts is my understanding. The thing is that is perfectly legal. Choose between being European or freeze your ass off. Posted by: Lester at February 19, 2014 07:57 AM (2UPXV) Bit more than that. http://tinyurl.com/mfbycql WaPo: Ukraine, under pressure from Russia, puts brakes on E.U. deal Russia bullied Ukraine all summer long, with threats, customs slowdowns at the border and sanitation-related sanctions on chocolates and other imports — all of which at the time seemed to strengthen Ukraine’s resolve to turn westward to its European neighbors. But more recently, top Russian officials have quietly made it clear that doing so would cost the fragile Ukrainian economy dearly. Ukraine conducts a large part of its trade with Russia, and the consequences of Russian obstruction would be painful. Ukraine has said it could make do without Russian natural gas, but a moratorium on gas purchases that it implemented last week quickly crumbled.

Posted by: BornLib at February 19, 2014 04:10 AM (zpNwC)

158 "Only because of our weak President are people dying in Ukraine right now."

Obama's political tactics will have people dying in the streets here if we can't get him and his cronies out of government.

Posted by: Y.B. Normal at February 19, 2014 04:11 AM (m8tBL)

159 157 143 The comment upthread about Russia being an oil company with nukes is more true than not. Putin does not just want energy independence for Russia, he wants to have energy dominance in the whole area. Like in any competitive business, either you are number one or you go out of business. Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 08:09 AM (GSIDW) Yup.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 04:12 AM (olDqf)

160 148 -

No, I'm pretty sure people in Ukraine die all the time, just like everywhere else.

Frankly, your conclusion does not seem to follow from the text.  Russia, is, and pretty much always has been, a brutal place, where tyrants are the rule,  not the exception.

You aren't going to change that, I'm not going to change that,  and I can't see how or why ANY President  of the US  should be sticking his nose into it, especially one as incompetent as  this one. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 19, 2014 04:12 AM (BeSEI)

161 The Ukraine is weak!

Posted by: Kramer at February 19, 2014 04:12 AM (ipdEn)

162 Yuengling has been in Ohio for a while. Yeah, the blip I cut and pasted was from 2011. I think that's where someone got the association with Anheuser-Busch.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 19, 2014 04:13 AM (CnA98)

163 Posted by: mugiwara at February 19, 2014 07:05 AM (3a584) There's a lot to the strife in the Ukraine, but, what I think is happening in the big picture is that the people voted for someone who claimed to move away from Russia and join the EU, but, then he reneged on that promise. Once in power, he changed spots, and bowed to Russia's pressure. They wanted democracy and freedom, and he is putting them back under Russia's thumb.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 19, 2014 04:14 AM (IXrOn)

164 I hope none of this will interrupt Mr. Obama's morning round of golf.

But I am sure after breakfast we will get a nice, meaningless, sonorous speech which the media will declare "brilliant!"

The world is burning from Kiev to Caracas and Mr. Obama has his court jester, Joe Biden make a phone call telling them to "pretty please, stop killing people".

And some people still wonder why we are fooked.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 19, 2014 04:15 AM (GGCsk)

165 By the way, Justine Bateman should get an honorary status of some sort around here. Her sister-in-law is the daughter of Mr. Paul Anka. Boom! It all comes back to the source.

Posted by: MTF at February 19, 2014 04:15 AM (F58x4)

166 In many ways the story of Yuengling is the story of Ukraine, without the petrol bombs.

Posted by: Y.B. Normal at February 19, 2014 04:15 AM (m8tBL)

167 I am actually ambivalent on the Russia vs EU proxy conflict going on now in Kiev, and the fact that I am dismays me. I should be rooting for the EU because if freedom, and western values, right? Except that they seem to be so socialist, godless, and Islamist- infiltrated. On the other hand Russia is under a cronyst dictatorship. Gah.

Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 04:15 AM (GSIDW)

168 ...there's that pesky Russian Black Sea Fleet.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 08:01 AM

And the pipeline politics is cutthroat. People forget that Putin wrote "His PhD thesis was titled "The Strategic Planning of Regional Resources Under the Formation of Market Relations" and it argued that Russian economic success would depend on creating national energy champions." (Wikipedia) Putin has been plotting this out for a loooong time.

Posted by: Lester at February 19, 2014 04:16 AM (2UPXV)

169 Yeah, the blip I cut and pasted was from 2011. I think that's where someone got the association with Anheuser-Busch.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at February 19, 2014 08:13 AM (CnA9



That matches the timeline I was thinking of; thanks for the response.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 04:16 AM (2RiXU)

170 Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2014 07:25 AM (4JkHl)

Not necessarily - there is a Ukrainian Orthodox Church, separate from the Russian Orthodox Church.

The UOC which sponsors our Boy Scout Troop has a memorial garden to commemorate Ukrainians who were purged by Stalin in the 30s.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ 

Forgot about them.

Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2014 04:16 AM (4JkHl)

171 hotair had a Ukraine Q&A a while back with MKH Q&A: What exactly is happening in Ukraine? http://hotair.com/archives/2014/01/31/qa-what-exactly-is-happening-in-ukraine/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 19, 2014 04:19 AM (IXrOn)

172

Where do we draw the line on which toaster we will or will not stick our dick into?

 

Gotta be honest.  I generally support a hawkish, interventionalist strategy.

Posted by: The Couch at February 19, 2014 04:19 AM (NF2Bf)

173 170 Posted by: Lester at February 19, 2014 08:16 AM (2UPXV) Since SCOAMF studied Alinsky, it would have been nice if Putin had been a champion of Alex B. Tokeville.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 04:19 AM (olDqf)

174 Team USA Men's hockey at noon vs. Czech Republic.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 19, 2014 04:19 AM (ZshNr)

175 Putin has been plotting this out for a loooong time. -- I kinda wish we had some leaders plotting to make America a great world power again. Just sayin.

Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 04:21 AM (GSIDW)

176 "Where do we draw the line on which toaster we will or will not stick our dick into? ============================== No one is advocating American force anywhere. What I'm saying is that because Obama is perceived by the Russians to be without principle, and completely unwilling or unable to have tough conversations, much less use economic power, Putin is seeking to reassemble the Russian Empire (remember, he called the fall of the old one "the greatest geo-political calamity"). Obama tolerates Russian killings of dissidents allover the world, Russian bullying in Ukraine, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Belarus and the Arctic, The spread of Russian economic corruption and allow it is allowed in the name of "being flexible". What is really happening is that Obama has a misguided belief in leftist oligarchies as friends not enemies. If you are worried about world wars, you should realize that he is desperately wrong. All of human history shows its easier to push back against bullies earlier rather than wait until all hell breaks loose.

Posted by: MTF at February 19, 2014 04:23 AM (F58x4)

177 I should be rooting for the EU because if freedom, and western values, right? Except that they seem to be so socialist, godless, and Islamist- infiltrated.
On the other hand Russia is under a cronyst dictatorship.
Gah.

Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 08:15 AM (GSIDW)



Between the EU, IMF and World Bank, there isn't a single person there who Milton Friedman would think knows what the fuck they're doing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 04:23 AM (2RiXU)

178 The Russians regard the Ukraine as their backyard, the Ukrainians disagree. Add to the problem, that EU are a bunch of conniving clowns and Putin loves to compromise ... 50/50 odds on the Russians rolling in an Armored Division or two to protect their people. Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2014 07:17 AM (4JkHl) That's the exact premise of Tom Clancy's last Jack Ryan novel. Phony protesters shipped in to cause government response. Russia steps in to protect the ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at February 19, 2014 04:24 AM (QR7wx)

179 I should say "knows what the fuck they're doing from a free market perspective in the interest of growing an economy".

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 04:24 AM (2RiXU)

180 Team USA Men's hockey at noon vs. Czech Republic. Posted by: Lincolntf at February 19, 2014 08:19 AM (ZshNr) We better win. Then at 2:15, another great soccer match. Arsenal v Munich OR Milan v Madrid (depends what you have available). Great day for sports!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 19, 2014 04:24 AM (IXrOn)

181 177 Putin has been plotting this out for a loooong time.

--
I kinda wish we had some leaders plotting to make America a great world power again. Just sayin. Posted by: votermom

I hear you. At this stage I have no idea what America will evolve or devolve into. I look at the magazines in the checkout lines and ponder "have we really fallen so far, so fast?"

And yet, most of the people I know in the Meatworld are pretty good folks. Who knows where it will go?

Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 04:26 AM (ULH4o)

182 This Finland Russia game is good... and it will/should just keep getting better.

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 04:27 AM (ipdEn)

183 It's true that America's weakness under Obama has emboldened Putin. Diplomatically, we've gone from speak softly but carry a big stick to dickless twerking.

Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 04:28 AM (GSIDW)

184 Deprived of Vic, I wandered off to Drudge. "Brain Implant Lets One Monkey Control Another" http://m.livescience.com/43443-monkey-brain-controls-another-monkey.html In the future, Regressives can skip that tedious education-indoctrination system.

Posted by: mindful webworker - news youse kin use at February 19, 2014 04:29 AM (izPgb)

185 Therein lies the problem, Captain, Volodya comes across as a middling Czar, not one of the Ivan's although the Oprichniki came out from that period, there are some similarities with the Pugachev rising against Catherine, but then again that was a military operation, Matthew Dryden, Andrew Kaplan, and Tom Clancy's collaborator, Greaney have gamed out these scenarios in fiction,

Posted by: coriolianus snow at February 19, 2014 04:30 AM (8sqvd)

186 "Brain Implant Lets One Monkey Control Another" Soothsayer hardest hit.

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 04:31 AM (ipdEn)

187 Only because of our weak President are people dying in Ukraine right now.

Posted by: MTF at February 19, 2014 08:05 AM (F58x4)

No....it is because of 1,000 years of an anti-freedom, pro-authoritarian tradition in the region.

What would you have a strong U.S. president do? Threaten the use of arms?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 19, 2014 04:32 AM (QFxY5)

188

178: "All of human history shows its easier to push back against bullies earlier rather than wait until all hell breaks loose."

 

I will not dispute the moral quandry of inaction.

 

However, what levereage to you think we have with Russia short of naked force?

 

It's not like they are vunerable to American trade sanctions.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 04:32 AM (v6cwT)

189 Occupy protesters pro-EU trade deal vs. Presidential Ukrainian administrative negotiations to trade with Russia. So says this morning's BBC report (Drudge link). I'm disappointed that our press ignored sharing the news for over a month, already. Waiting for the death toll to get past 16 and counting. What have the OWS and their American cynics to say of the Occupy movement in Ukraine cities, Kiev? Is this protest over trade "most favored" or much more; over which monetary economic policy system used in trade (Keynesian or Austrian or what), which central bank, which denomination of currency? And has the EU been sponsoring the Ukrainian political activist protest movement in order to force matters from a distance?

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 19, 2014 04:33 AM (MhA4j)

190 And yet, most of the people I know in the Meatworld are pretty good folks. Who knows where it will go? Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 08:26 AM (ULH4o) Obviously, you are not diverse enough in your selection of "associates". I think one problem that we have as a country is that on an individual basis, most people are reasonably decent; however, when you "encourage them to form themselves into identity groups (bribed by tangible government benefits and egged on by outrage), you quickly find that the average "decency" is divided by the number of people in the identity group.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 19, 2014 04:33 AM (o3MSL)

191 I kinda wish we had some leaders plotting to make America a great world power again. Just sayin. Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 08:21 AM

That would require voters to pay attention instead of going with whatever is the fad of the moment. And killing off the current version of what is called media.

Posted by: Lester at February 19, 2014 04:34 AM (2UPXV)

192 Fins up 3 - 1 just before the midpoint of the 2nd.

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 04:34 AM (ipdEn)

193 Reagan would provide logistic support to the uprising, as he did with Solidarity,
it doesn't require military intervention, and offer moral support.

Posted by: coriolianus snow at February 19, 2014 04:34 AM (8sqvd)

194 I should be rooting for the EU because if freedom, and western values, right? Except that they seem to be so socialist, godless, and Islamist- infiltrated.
On the other hand Russia is under a cronyst dictatorship.
Gah.

Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 08:15 AM (GSIDW)

This.  I saw the original question (Why does Ukraine have to choose between Russia and the EU) and began to type,

"Well, for them it's a choice between Soviet-style forced collectivism and the Russians."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 19, 2014 04:35 AM (fwARV)

195 "Brain Implant Lets One Monkey Dem Control Another" FIFY.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 19, 2014 04:35 AM (p9JxP)

196 Garrett - I'm slaving away (metaphorically, of course) in a microaggressive way, so I can't watch the game.  I appreciate the updates, even if no one else does :-)

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 19, 2014 04:35 AM (fwARV)

197

Kiev is gonna find out pretty damn quick bos much BS Putin isn't gonna tolerate. It won't be long before he moves in to 'protect' Russian citizens.

 

Caracas on the other hand.... That's gonna be interesting to watch; and instructive. The cost to emerge from socialism and central planning isn't gonna be inexpensive but at least they have more of a chance than the folks in Kiev.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 19, 2014 04:36 AM (KdfFa)

198 I don't know if it has been mentioned yet or not, but it is not a good day to be a Chicken in Kiev.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 19, 2014 04:36 AM (32Ze2)

199 "Well, for them it's a choice between Soviet-style forced collectivism and the Russians."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 19, 2014 08:35 AM (fwARV)

Ouch.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 19, 2014 04:37 AM (QFxY5)

200 Apropos of nothing, I suppose, I just ordered .22lr ammo online and was pleased to pay 15.3 cents per round shipped when three relatively short years ago I could still find it on the shelves for less than half of that. All the other types of ammo have found their way back on the shelves, but .22lr is still in short supply. I would never have thought such a thing would happen, three short years ago.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 19, 2014 04:37 AM (yh0zB)

201 190. /Just great -- bombs away first course./ Next?

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 19, 2014 04:37 AM (MhA4j)

202 I hear you. At this stage I have no idea what America will evolve or devolve into. I look at the magazines in the checkout lines and ponder "have we really fallen so far, so fast?" And yet, most of the people I know in the Meatworld are pretty good folks. Who knows where it will go? Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 08:26 AM (ULH4o) We have become unmoored from our law, heritage and culture. All by design and much of it by Putin's predecessors. Unreal. As we tore the Berlin Wall down, they've been rotting out our foundations from within at the same time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 04:37 AM (olDqf)

203 No Problem. FYI - Russia just pulled Varlamov for Bobrovsky.

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 04:37 AM (ipdEn)

204 Why does the Ukraine need to make a "choice" between Russia and the EU? Why can't the Ukraine have good relations with both?

Because Vlad Said So!

Posted by: Paladin at February 19, 2014 04:37 AM (4kpbt)

205

192: "I think one problem that we have as a country is that on an individual basis, most people are reasonably decent"

 

A stroll through a few more Walmarts may disabuse you of this opinion.

 

I would place the number of decent folk at an ever dwindling minority.

 

What concerns me most, and cause no small amount of anguish, is the growing realization that in order to secure the safety and prosperity of my family, I may have to become a thoroughly evil son of a bitch.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 04:37 AM (f6ZLT)

206 One of the opposition leaders is a retired boxing champion.  Klitchko, or some such spelling.  I read a story about him a few months back in the ESPN rag (so take it for what it's worth).  He says Ukraine is run like a banana republic, ripe with corruption, kickbacks, etc.  Getting a political appointment is like winning the lottery, while the people are kept poor.  And it's common for dissenters to "disappear".  They want to join EU for more stability & accountability.  Or it could be they just want some of EU's wealth spread their way, who knows.

Posted by: Sexual Vanilla at February 19, 2014 04:38 AM (/Mla1)

207 8:15 am || Departs White House 12:10 pm CT || Arrives Toluca, Mexico 12:35 pm CT || Greets Mexican President Nieto and begins bilateral meetings; Palacio de Gobierno del Estado de Mexico, Toluca, Mexico 2:45 pm CT || Attends a working lunch; Cosmovitral, Botanical Gardens, Toluca, Mexico 4:20 pm CT || Participates in a walk and talk with Prime Minister Harper of Canada 4:50 pm CT || Delivers remarks with President Nieto and Prime Minister Harper; 5:30 pm CT || Participates in the Trilateral North American Leaders Summit Meeting Courtyard, Palacio de Justicia, Toluca, Mexico 7:15 pm CT || Holds a press conference with President Nieto and Prime Minister Harper; Patio Cental, Palacio de Gobierno, Toluca, Mexico 8:50 pm CT || Departs Mexico 2:05 am || Arrives White House Holy crap. TFG is going to need a vacation!

Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2014 04:38 AM (fWAjv)

208 And now...I'd love to hang around but my Midway order should be in today, which means I need powder. That means that I have to lever my lazy ass out of this chair and go to the toy store.


Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 19, 2014 04:38 AM (yh0zB)

209 If you read "The Clash of Civilizations" by Samuel P. Huntington, you would know that the frontier between Western Christianity and Orthodox Christianity (and Islam too) runs right through the middle of Ukraine.  The western part has a history and culture similar to Western Europe whereby the Church has acted to thwart the evil plans of the State.  The eastern part has a history and culture similar to Russia whereby the Church sucks up to and never challenges the Czar.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 19, 2014 04:39 AM (V70Uh)

210 Reagan would provide logistic support to the uprising, as he did with Solidarity,
it doesn't require military intervention, and offer moral support.

Posted by: coriolianus snow at February 19, 2014 08:34 AM (8sqvd)



This is where it all breaks down.  We have a current pussyboy whose johnson gets hard at the words Mooooooslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 04:39 AM (2RiXU)

211 200 I don't know if it has been mentioned yet or not, but it is not a good day to be a Chicken in Kiev. Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 19, 2014 08:36 AM (32Ze2) Today Chicken Kiev. Tomorrow Baked Alaska.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 19, 2014 04:39 AM (olDqf)

212 No one in the US, EU, or Russia really know exactly what this is about. It's domestic violence that has been building up for decades. Wanted. A leader like George Washington or Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Not wanted. Leader like Napoleon.

Posted by: Huggy at February 19, 2014 04:40 AM (o00SF)

213 some humor from the Duffel Blog:

Sergeant Major Goes On Rampage After Office Equipment Refuses To Obey

"Motherfuckin’ DTS, MOL, 3270, eMarine, MarineNet, online PHAs, all bullshit! I can’t ever log on to any of that trash anyway. Oh, it’s ten days until my password expires? Would I like to change it now? No asshole, how about I do it in ten days when it actually expires? My MOL account still has leave requests I can’t close out from when I was a company gunny. I can’t get anything done on MOL because the page times out every time I use it. I can’t send e-mail because my mailbox is always over its precious size limit. I’ve got something in my shorts that’ll exceed your size limit!”

nice morning laugh. 

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/02/sgtmaj-rampage/

Posted by: tangonine at February 19, 2014 04:41 AM (x3YFz)

214 @34 At the rate we're going, it'll be big news when someone in the spotlight comes out as hetero.

http://tinyurl.com/k32qenk

There you go.
Now I ask you, who, in a thousand years, would have thought that Patrick Stewart OBE was not gay? It's an ill wind that blows no good.

And speaking of blowing no good.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 19, 2014 04:42 AM (xq1UY)

215 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 04:43 AM (PYAXX)

216 Posted by: Huggy at February 19, 2014 08:40 AM (o00SF) I'd take Napoleon over Robespierre, though.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 04:44 AM (PYAXX)

217 It's been all downhill in Ukraine since they threw their hot PM in prison.

Posted by: brak at February 19, 2014 04:51 AM (M2qTM)

218 #euromaidan and @euromaidanPR for some good on the street Ukraine news.

Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2014 04:51 AM (fWAjv)

219

You ask for Napoleon.

 

You'll accept Robespierre.

 

You'll get SCOAMT.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 04:51 AM (/qzu7)

220 Who the hell would ever pick Robespierre?!  That's like picking Benedict Arnold.

Posted by: Draki at February 19, 2014 04:51 AM (L8r/r)

221 Who the hell would ever pick Robespierre?! The French.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 04:52 AM (PYAXX)

222 Maybe Obama should talk about a red line that the Ukrainian president should not cross. That worked so well last time.

Posted by: votermom at February 19, 2014 04:52 AM (GSIDW)

223 We have nothing to fear with Vladimir Putin in the Red House

Posted by: John McCain at February 19, 2014 04:53 AM (SO2Q8)

224 217 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther)

I still prefer "malignant tumor," but then I'm an evil-minded SOB....

Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 04:53 AM (ULH4o)

225

222: "That's like picking Benedict Arnold."

 

At one time, he was picked.

 

"Leaders" are like a box of chocolates. You never know what goo you'll get until you put it in your mouth.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 04:53 AM (v6cwT)

226 Unreal. As we tore the Berlin Wall down, they've been rotting out our foundations from within at the same time.

I've been saying for years now that the soviets actually won the cold war, it just took them a few extra decades to get the changes through the education system.

Posted by: GMan at February 19, 2014 04:55 AM (sxq57)

227 Honestly, as bad as this is, I think the extent of American response should be A) Talk up self-determination and Republican Government. B) Make it known we would oppose any Russian military intervention. C) Offer (since we seem to be the only ones with no dog in the hunt) to host talks between the Ukrainian govt and representatives of the protesters. Likelihood of that being our response? ~0.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 04:56 AM (PYAXX)

228 I do hope all the LEO's getting armored cars watch this clip:

http://tinyurl.com/kmu5f5b

Yes, we can....

Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 04:56 AM (ULH4o)

229

"No....it is because of 1,000 years of an anti-freedom, pro-authoritarian tradition in the region.

What would you have a strong U.S. president do? Threaten the use of arms?"

 

Ask Ronald Reagan how to break the chains that bind Russia to the people that it oppresses.  It takes time, and it takes persistent effort.  It takes money.  It take coersion and what amounts to bribery - but if it's done skillfully it can be completed with very little bloodshed.  Ask Czechoslovakia, Poland, East Germany, etc.

 

Of course, you have to have a leader who actually understands something other than golf.  You need someone who isn't asking a mirror every morning "who's the fairest of them all?" 

 

Vladimir Putin wakes up every morning and gives thanks to a God he doesn't believe in.  He thanks for Barack Obama and, more intensely, the idiots who put him there, the idiots who protect his image, the idiots who work for him, and the idiots that support him.

 

These are golden years for Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un, and all of the other miscreants who are grinding human lives up to make flour for their bread.  President Narcissist and his band of Sycophants are Putin's dream come true.

Posted by: RobM1981 at February 19, 2014 04:57 AM (V1z4W)

230 Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 08:56 AM (ULH4o) Turning it into an oven would certainly work, yes.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 04:58 AM (PYAXX)

231 Very thoughtful article by the professor;

Ted Cruz and the Point of No Return
A history lesson for the Republican partyÂ’s purists. By Thomas Sowell

Posted by: Marcus T at February 19, 2014 04:58 AM (GGCsk)

232

@221

 

How true... How sad but true.

Posted by: RobM1981 at February 19, 2014 04:58 AM (V1z4W)

233 Good movie. Top notch Lancaster.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 19, 2014 07:38 AM (rfp9k)




Burt Lancaster was a commie bastard and his acting was on par with drying concrete

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 19, 2014 04:59 AM (1Jaio)

234

228: "I've been saying for years now that the soviets actually won the cold war, it just took them a few extra decades to get the changes through the education system"

 

I have a theory on this sort of thing. I don't believe that the leftists (to include the commies) are really all that smart or competant. At least no enough to be able to pull this inexorable slide off.

 

Looking at the pervasiveness and resoluteness of this movement, I can't see any mind that could actually pull it off other than the diabolic.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 04:59 AM (/qzu7)

235 231, you have a good point and I sadly think it is true.

Posted by: Draki at February 19, 2014 04:59 AM (L8r/r)

236 There have been powerful images coming out of Ukraine for weeks now but Kiev had to be set on fire before the media took notice.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 19, 2014 04:59 AM (DmNpO)

237 2-Minutes Hate Haiku: Ted Cruz made it rain He typically makes it snow He is a bad man

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 19, 2014 05:00 AM (7ObY1)

238 I don't really understand golf either though.

Posted by: King Barakakakan at February 19, 2014 05:00 AM (Aif/5)

239 Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 08:56 AM (ULH4o) Dayum.

Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2014 05:00 AM (fWAjv)

240 I do hope all the LEO's getting armored cars watch this clip:

http://tinyurl.com/kmu5f5b

Yes, we can....

Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 08:56 AM (ULH4o)



Ukraine or a major urban city here in our near future?


It doesn't look like they "destroyed" it, but just immobilized it and forced the crew to abandon it.  Still, that's a helluva move on the protestors' part.  Good arms on them!  Might be a few baseball prospects the MLB should look into.


Also, all those MRAPs the local cops are buying up?  What happens when they break down and there aren't any parts for them, or is DoD supplying them too?

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 05:00 AM (GQ8sn)

241 Ted Cruz and the Point of No Return I saw Kansas play that tune last summer.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 19, 2014 05:01 AM (7ObY1)

242 That looks like a scene from one of those fast zombie movies.

Posted by: Fritz at February 19, 2014 05:01 AM (rV80K)

243 WASHINGTON (AP) — A report by Congress' nonpartisan budget analysts seems to have thrown Democrats onto the defensive after it concluded that the party's drive to boost the federal minimum wage could cost a half-million jobs by 2016.





Now what could the Republicans possibly run on this year?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 19, 2014 05:01 AM (1Jaio)

244 240 I don't really understand golf either though. Posted by: King Barakakakan at February 19, 2014 09:00 AM (Aif/5) When you were invited to play with balls and shafts it wasn't what you were expecting huh.

Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2014 05:01 AM (fWAjv)

245 Posted by: Marcus T at February 19, 2014 08:58 AM (GGCsk) I haven't read this one if it's new, but I read the one from yesterday. If this is in the same vein, then Sowell has missed the boat. I'm not a battered wife. I don't believe that the GOP has "learned my lesson, baby." I don't believe that the GOP will "never hit you again." I *certainly* don't believe what the GOP is saying about what will happen in my mouth. They can prove it by standing up for principle while in the minority. I'm not helping them secure the majority until I'm sure their principles are in line with mine. If they're just going to continue being Dem-Lite, then I'll keep saying "Burn it down."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 05:02 AM (PYAXX)

246 Huckabee to Iowa? (Drudge).

LOL as if...

Posted by: tangonine at February 19, 2014 05:02 AM (x3YFz)

247 Now what could the Republicans possibly run on this year?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 19, 2014 09:01 AM (1Jaio)

Amnesty!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 19, 2014 05:03 AM (QFxY5)

248 Huckabee to Iowa? Mike Huckabee Stars in THEY FRY TWINKIES, DON'T THEY?

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 05:03 AM (Z8otB)

249 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 19, 2014 09:03 AM (QFxY5) Make the bad man stop!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 05:03 AM (PYAXX)

250 At what point does the creeping 1914 vibe become a tidal wave of 1914 vibe?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 19, 2014 05:04 AM (659DL)

251 Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 09:00 AM (GQ8sn) The protesters are putting 'water balloon' launchers and slingshots to good use as well. http://tinyurl.com/pcbo34t

Posted by: RWC at February 19, 2014 05:05 AM (fWAjv)

252 At what point does the creeping 1914 vibe become a tidal wave of 1914 vibe? Honestly, I don't think we'll be able to see it at the time. I think it will only be in retrospect that people are able to say "This is when it happened."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 05:05 AM (PYAXX)

253 The protesters are putting 'water balloon' launchers and slingshots to good use as well.


It's got to be bittersweet for them.  All that booze....



Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 05:06 AM (GQ8sn)

254 EC?
Anything one group of men makes can be destroyed by another group. Just look at the history of fixed fortifications.

LEO's are turning into state-sanctioned thugs. Regardless of their hardware, they had better tread more lightly.

Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 05:07 AM (ULH4o)

255 The protesters are putting 'water balloon' launchers and slingshots to good use as well. When they break out the Potato Guns, all is lost.

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 05:07 AM (Z8otB)

256

257: "It's got to be bittersweet for them. All that booze...."

 

Unless they are using the headings and tailings.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 05:07 AM (v6cwT)

257 Mike Huckabee Stars in

THEY FRY TWINKIES, DON'T THEY?

Posted by: garrett at February 19, 2014 09:03 AM (Z8otB)

I will win the Miss America pageant before Huckabee wins a conservative nomination.

I won't even shave my legs.

That dude evidently doesn't understand that poop where you eat saying.

Posted by: tangonine at February 19, 2014 05:08 AM (x3YFz)

258 Anything one group of men makes can be destroyed by another group. Just look at the history of fixed fortifications.

LEO's are turning into state-sanctioned thugs. Regardless of their hardware, they had better tread more lightly.

Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 09:07 AM (ULH4o)



Anyone know if the MRAP deals come with parts and maintenance from the DoD?  It would be a shame if they were to break down while they were out on patrol....



Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 05:08 AM (GQ8sn)

259 At what point does the creeping 1914 vibe become a tidal wave of 1914 vibe? -- It's not like they can assassinate me again.

Posted by: Archduke Ferdinand at February 19, 2014 05:10 AM (GSIDW)

260 Wow, I respect Sowell a great deal but imo that was a poorly argued column.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 05:10 AM (2RiXU)

261 In many ways, the story of that priest is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Null at February 19, 2014 05:10 AM (xjpRj)

262 Do a lot of Ukrainian citizens have guns?  Or are guns highly regulated or banned there?

Posted by: Sexual Vanilla at February 19, 2014 05:10 AM (/Mla1)

263 255 At what point does the creeping 1914 vibe become a tidal wave of 1914 vibe?

Honestly, I don't think we'll be able to see it at the time. I think it will only be in retrospect that people are able to say "This is when it happened."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 09:05 AM (PYAXX)

The history books will undoubtedly trace it back to the malcontents and misfits on AoS : )

(I hope)

Posted by: tangonine at February 19, 2014 05:10 AM (x3YFz)

264 Honestly, I don't think we'll be able to see it at the time. I think it will only be in retrospect that people are able to say "This is when it happened."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 09:05 AM (PYAXX)

I think that's usually the case.  It's like that with human nature, it's like that with mishaps.  An unbroken chain of events leads to an inexorable conclusion.  Of course, it's only in hindsight that each link can be seen.  If any single link is broken... no mishap. 

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 19, 2014 05:10 AM (fwARV)

265

260: "I will win the Miss America pageant before Huckabee wins a conservative nomination."

 

CPAC has invited the Fat Fuck.

 

A dinner with Krauthammer, Medved, and Bennett is one of their "prizes".

 

So. What kind of two piece will you be wearing for the competition?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 05:10 AM (f6ZLT)

266 The history books will undoubtedly trace it back to the malcontents and misfits on AoS : )

(I hope)

Posted by: tangonine at February 19, 2014 09:10 AM (x3YFz)

DARE TO DREAM!!!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 19, 2014 05:11 AM (fwARV)

267 195. Posted by: coriolianus snow Reagan would... Yes. He also certainly utilized our tax funds to sponsor US black ops and to train the "good" foreign terrorist mercenaries. Reference Afghanistan, Nicaragua, etc. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. While the USSR yet was, the Soviets did the same interventionist military wars as we've been doing in response to foreign affairs since 9/11/01. Putin v. West DURING the Olympics. So the western media waited until mid-Olympic events to "suddenly" report on the Occupy Kiev protest which to date reportedly has equal death toll on police and protesters. The physical confrontations began in earnest when the Olympic events began? Timing is crucial. Years ago, between the fall of the USSR and today, when Putin first rose as Russia's new leader, a documentary was made interviewing Russian civilians from all walks of life. I remember an interview with an educated-professional man from a rural agricultural community, who expressed a popular disgust with how the Russian Mafia had raped Russia given open range through Capitalism. There was no law enforcement after the USSR government fell. But Putin was restoring "law and order" and national Identity, merging what elements Russians traditionally held dear, the Orthodox Church and the pride in their Military to defend the Motherland. Economically, isn't Russia functioning through capitalism now? Hell, capitalist investors (Brits, Americans) sponsored the rise of Hitler's Nazi Germany, and Hollywood propagandized on the Nazi behalf in its own trade deal. Things as they are? Shrillery would reset, "At this point, what difference does it make?" to the Ukraine which direction E/W trade occurs. WHY should the Ukraine limit itself to trade only East or else West? Hell, look at Nixinger's US-China most favored trade nation deal. And as if the EU only trades within member nations. So really, what the hell is going on over there? Engaging a lot of angry youths with propaganda to "make a difference"? What's their version of Craigslist over there to check ads for political activism for hire (not doubting "true believers" of whatever sort exist everywhere). But to obligate a military response from whichever outer direction, as if the Ukrainian government shouldn't be sovereign, and its citizens self determined? The Balkans are one of the most ancient of civilized regions on earth, not saying the most pastoral given the crossroads of cultures, and the aggressive survival traits of indigenous tribes. /...What would newly converted libertarian ace say? (WWNCLAS)

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 19, 2014 05:12 AM (MhA4j)

268 So. What kind of two piece will you be wearing for the competition?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 09:10 AM (f6ZLT)

I'm going to go with 1 bunny slipper, a trash bag and some duct tape.

Posted by: tangonine at February 19, 2014 05:12 AM (x3YFz)

269 Do a lot of Ukrainian citizens have guns? Or are guns highly regulated or banned there?


If Ukraine is anything like Russia proper, then no pistols for civilians.  You can get the typical hunting rifles and shotties, but no handguns or anything resembling military stuff like our AR-15 would be to a real M-16.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 05:12 AM (GQ8sn)

270

261: "Anyone know if the MRAP deals come with parts and maintenance from the DoD? It would be a shame if they were to break down while they were out on patrol...."

 

These are one time grants. Sustainment is all on the city/state.

 

An unfortunate accident at a PD fuel pit would stop all kinds of shennanigans.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 05:13 AM (f6ZLT)

271 272 Do a lot of Ukrainian citizens have guns? Or are guns highly regulated or banned there?


If Ukraine is anything like Russia proper, then no pistols for civilians. You can get the typical hunting rifles and shotties, but no handguns or anything resembling military stuff like our AR-15 would be to a real M-16.

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 09:12 AM (GQ8sn)

...which is so ironic, given the proclivity of the AK and Makarov.

Posted by: tangonine at February 19, 2014 05:14 AM (x3YFz)

272 The history books will undoubtedly trace it back to the malcontents and misfits on AoS


"The downfall of US society inevitably began with a gentleman from Colorado who seemingly entered the Miss America pageant as a way of protest...."



Thanks tangonine!!!

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 05:14 AM (GQ8sn)

273 'Bammy thinks he and Chavez were good buddies but Chavez treated him like dog shit, or in other words, like he deserves.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 19, 2014 05:14 AM (/qW5H)

274 CPAC has invited the Fat Fuck.

A dinner with Krauthammer, Medved, and Bennett is one of their "prizes".

So. What kind of two piece will you be wearing for the competition?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 09:10 AM (f6ZLT)



Medved has gotten unlistenable.  In 2008 when he had his "disagreement days" all the callers were libs; when I listened by mistake last year all the callers were conservatives railing about what a fucking squish he is.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 05:14 AM (2RiXU)

275 Sweet. Current temp 29.5 degrees with freezing mist falling and it's heading for New Jersey.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 19, 2014 05:15 AM (CnA98)

276 CPAC has invited the Fat Fuck. A dinner with Krauthammer, Medved, and Bennett is one of their "prizes". So they're now the "Conservative-ish Political Action Committee?" I really don't get this trying to out-egg-head the Democrats thing the GOP has got going on. We'll never be able to out-egg-head the Dems, simply because the MFM will refuse to let that happen. Segments will get "edited for time" and mics will just happen to have "technical difficulties." And then there's the subtle stuff they'll do- like listing a long line of "achievements" for people like Former Enron Economic Adviser Paul Krugman, and then say "Conservative Commentator Thomas Sowell." Reagan didn't win by out-egg-headding the Democrats. He did it by going around them; which is what we'll have to find *some* way to do.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 05:15 AM (PYAXX)

277 "The downfall of US society inevitably began with a gentleman from Colorado who seemingly entered the Miss America pageant as a way of protest...."



Thanks tangonine!!!

Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 09:14 AM (GQ8sn)

History.  No one ever sees it coming.

Posted by: tangonine at February 19, 2014 05:15 AM (x3YFz)

278 These are one time grants. Sustainment is all on the city/state.


Oh good.  I look foward taking my son to the new police armoured vehicle museum and playground.


Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 05:15 AM (GQ8sn)

279

272: "If Ukraine is anything like Russia proper, then no pistols for civilians. You can get the typical hunting rifles and shotties, but no handguns or anything resembling military stuff like our AR-15 would be to a real M-16."

 

And yet pistols and AKs are quite common. Imagine that. Gun laws having no effect...

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 05:15 AM (Kh+vp)

280 273?
Azenogoth?

Thanks for the info- I suspected as much but really did not know.

Posted by: backhoe at February 19, 2014 05:16 AM (ULH4o)

281

"The downfall of US society inevitably began with a gentleman from Colorado who seemingly entered the Miss America pageant as a way of protest...."

 

Kill it with fire!

Posted by: The Burning Times at February 19, 2014 05:16 AM (87y4e)

282 In that picture it looks like the guy in the foreground is pointing a pistol at the police in the background...

Posted by: GMan at February 19, 2014 05:16 AM (sxq57)

283 And yet pistols and AKs are quite common. Imagine that. Gun laws having no effect...

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 09:15 AM (Kh+vp)


Yeah.  You need some deep pockets if you want to have the fun guns in Russia.  My Russian friend unfortunately is too poor to bribe the right people and had to leave his Glock and SKS here when he returned to Moscow.



Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 05:17 AM (GQ8sn)

284 Trouble's coming on the 22nd.

<<We’ve survived the Mayan apocalypse and Y2K, but be afraid – the end of the world is coming…again.

This time itÂ’s the Viking apocalypse that is allegedly set to destroy Earth, with Norse mythology claiming the planet will split open and unleash the inhabitants of Hel on February 22.>>

http://tinyurl.com/pqwju26

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 19, 2014 05:17 AM (tf9Ne)

285 This
time itÂ’s the Viking apocalypse that is allegedly set to destroy Earth,
with Norse mythology claiming the planet will split open and unleash
the inhabitants of Hel on February 22.>>



That when the new Thor movie opens?


Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 05:18 AM (GQ8sn)

286 Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 19, 2014 09:17 AM (tf9Ne) Stop with the taunting already. At least Ragnarok would be a good way to go.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 05:18 AM (PYAXX)

287 I'm not gonna spend a lot of time worrying about Putin or the Ukraine when we have a narcissistic cultural marxist in the WH, and a an opposition party composed largely of ruling class elites that have less angst over that fact than they do about the TEA Party and GOP Conservatives.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 19, 2014 05:19 AM (4bAP5)

288 Morning all.... Did I miss the fresh hell of today?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 19, 2014 05:19 AM (bCEmE)

289 Norse mythology claiming the planet will split open and unleash the inhabitants of Hel The cast of The View are already out.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 19, 2014 05:20 AM (659DL)

290 Bennett's a good guy but has to be one of the most excruciatingly boring people on radio.  I'd have to be cranked on meth not to be face down in the pasta midway through a meal with him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 19, 2014 05:20 AM (2RiXU)

291 Face it, which Moron wouldn't pay good money for ringside seats for Thor vs. The World Serpent?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 05:20 AM (PYAXX)

292 Speaking of the Norse- Happy Wotan's Day, Horde! Let's go a-viking!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 05:21 AM (PYAXX)

293 That when the new Thor movie opens? Last year. Of course maybe it means Iceland goes boom, but then some of the Horde will need new online pasttimes...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Applied Phrenologist at February 19, 2014 05:21 AM (naUcP)

294 Seems to me like the Ukraine conflict is between Occupy-esque Eurofag socialists and strongarm Soviet style socialists. Basically the usual European political divide between their 'right' and left, national socialism vs international socialism, has boiled over into physical violence.


I'm much more sympathetic towards the productive Venezuelans fighting back against a government that is outright stealing their shit than I am towards what seem to be a bunch of unproductive Occupoopers who can afford to layabout for 3 months whining over some deal they're didn't like.

Posted by: mugiwara at February 19, 2014 05:22 AM (W7ffl)

295

294: "Face it, which Moron wouldn't pay good money for ringside seats for Thor vs. The World Serpent?'

 

Umm...that's not really my kind of pr0n.

 

Not that there's anything..umm...wrong with it. If that's what you like.

 

It's just....ummm...yeah.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 05:22 AM (/qzu7)

296 Face it, which Moron wouldn't pay good money for ringside seats for Thor vs. The World Serpent? You would think Valkyries would make good cheerleaders, but they've been known to take things...too far, on occasion.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Applied Phrenologist at February 19, 2014 05:23 AM (naUcP)

297 Seems to me like the Ukraine conflict is between Occupy-esque Eurofag socialists and strongarm Soviet style socialists. Basically the usual European political divide between their 'right' and left, national socialism vs international socialism, has boiled over into physical violence. Go educate yourself on Ukrainian history. The EU is only involved by default, trust me on this one.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Applied Phrenologist at February 19, 2014 05:24 AM (naUcP)

298 You would think Valkyries would make good cheerleaders, but they've been known to take things...too far, on occasion.


Very sharp elbows!


Oh, and bewb armour FTW!


Posted by: EC at February 19, 2014 05:25 AM (GQ8sn)

299 Also today, the anniversary of the birth of David Garrick (1717-1779), who not only played a major role in the "Shakeseare revival" of the 18th century but also wrote the words to that great Royal Navy ode, "Heart of Oak," with music by William Boyce. -------- Come cheer up, my lads! 'tis to glory we steer, To add something more to this wonderful year; To honor we call you, not press you like slaves, For who are so free as the sons of the waves? Heart of oak are our ships; heart of oak are our men: We always are ready; steady, boys, steady; We'll fight and we'll conquer again and again.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 19, 2014 05:25 AM (aDwsi)

300 O'Reilly bases love of Obama on deep, intimate long term relationship -


http://tinyurl.com/mkzgcnt


The pro-pompous zone.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 19, 2014 05:30 AM (BZAd3)

301 Nood dump. Up.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 19, 2014 05:30 AM (p9JxP)

302 Dump up.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 19, 2014 05:30 AM (PYAXX)

303

Interesting pic from the Ukraine protest seen in the Daily Mail today...

 

One protester is carrying a longbow!

 

Another bloke has a slingshot

 

Hello from Sydney on Thursday morning - watching the Russia v Finland ice hockey - pretty exciting for someone like me who doesn't see any ice hockey ever

 

2nd Cricket test starts tonight - South Africa v Aussies and on Sunday we're off to see the Waratahs - our NSW state rugby team play in the 1st match of theSuper15 rugby comp (Aussie, NZ and South African teams)

Looking forward to the footy season - all codes!

Posted by: aussie at February 19, 2014 05:31 AM (nP3cM)

304

300: "Go educate yourself on Ukrainian history. The EU is only involved by default, trust me on this one."

 

Back when I was stationed in Korea, I had a few Russian and Ukrainian "friends".

 

Care had to be taken to not invite girls from the different groups over at the same time.

 

After a few drinks, much bitchiness would follow. Icepicks have been pulled.

 

Luckily it only cost me twenty bucks to have the door fixed. Making sure the linoleum was all cleaned was more problematic.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 19, 2014 05:32 AM (Kh+vp)

305 303 O'Reilly bases love of Obama on deep, intimate long term relationship -


The pro-pompous zone.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 19, 2014 09:30 AM (BZAd3)

O'Reilly and his "hard hitting" interview with SCOAMF.  Think he had to replace his knee pads three times before it was over.

Posted by: tangonine at February 19, 2014 05:33 AM (x3YFz)

306 Morning all....


Did I miss the fresh hell of today?

Posted by: Tami at February 19, 2014 09:19 AM (bCEmE)

 

Hell is in The Barrel, which is far from fresh.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 19, 2014 05:35 AM (DrWcr)

307 Did I miss the fresh hell of today?

Posted by: Tami at February 19, 2014 09:19 AM (bCEmE)

Photos of tangonine in a two piece.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 19, 2014 05:38 AM (QFxY5)

308 JJ Sefton, GMan, thanks for saying that. I've suspected as much myself for many years, and gotten a lot of funny looks and scorn on the increasingly rare times i've said so. I find myself disappointed by the Tom Sowell piece. I don't see Cruz as ".... undermin(ing) the election chances of the only political party that has any chance of undoing the disasters ....", because I don't see any party with any desire to undo any of it. Rather, I see two nominally different parties with a single intent, the subjugation of a formerly free people. If someone started an Opposition Party, I'd be on it like white on rice.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 19, 2014 05:42 AM (SwHqo)

309 Fenelon, I've sung almost that exact same Doxology many times in church. Very traditional Lutheran, very traditional liturgy.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at February 19, 2014 05:43 AM (yE8uc)

310 That powerful image is dated February 11.

If only someone would invent an information superhighway where news could be transmitted instantly, instead of taking over a week to make it across the Atlantic.  Ah, wee Al Gore, where have all the flowers gone?

Posted by: Adjoran at February 19, 2014 06:01 AM (QIQ6j)

311 276. Yes, the person obviously. But not the Office. Occupy White House (OWH), the resident is destroying the Office, the Republic along with the Nation's citizenry from within and from without. ...Houston, we have a problem.

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 19, 2014 06:20 AM (MhA4j)

312 313 ...long time passing, long time ago gone to graveyards everyone It happened a long time ago. What difference at this point does it make?

Posted by: Hillary Ruthless Clinton at February 19, 2014 06:24 AM (MhA4j)

313 Photo of courage from faith.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 19, 2014 06:44 AM (baL2B)

314 Read something pretty cool this morning.  Not sure of the source:

"Warriors are not born
They are made through
hard work
suffering
and sacrifice"

Never quit.

Reading that kind of thing is going to make me unass my chair and run 5, and drop every 1/2 mile and push until I can't push anymore then push some more.

Good stuff.

Posted by: tangonine at February 19, 2014 06:47 AM (x3YFz)

315 I think Barack Obama is going to find it difficult to claim the mantle of "great leader of world history" when he stood on the sidelines in Iran and Ukraine, let Putin do as he would in Syria, and wanted to keep the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt. History will scoff at the attempt. Eisenhower did more for integration than Barack Obama ever did for liberty. Unless...

Posted by: Logicus at February 19, 2014 06:51 AM (9hB8h)

316

"9  . . .
Speaking of John Frankenheimer, don't waste your time and money on 'The Monuments Men.'

Rent 'The Train.'  A Sefton favorite."

Heh.  The Train was on the MGM network the other night, and I told my daughter "watch this instead of The Monuments Men." 

Posted by: Bud Norton at February 19, 2014 07:06 AM (6cOMd)

317 148 Professor Stephen Cohen of NYU (Slavic Studies) was on with O'Reilly last evening defending Putin. Only an expert on Russia and its history of warlord government could possibly apply nuance to the ranking of Putin versus Stalin, Lenin, Peter the Great or the other murdering scum in Russian I story, and come out concluding that we all ought to just get along with Putin because he's kind of a nice guy. As autocratic tyrants go, he means. In Russia. Only because of our weak President are people dying in Ukraine right now. ---- I'm not a big advocate for Putin, but he (and/or his brand of leadership) is the only thing holding that region back from a full-scale war. Such a war is probably inevitable at this point, however. The Ukraine, the Caucusus and that geo-region have all the ingredients of every major war since the Middle Ages--sectarian conflict, Islamic extremism, nationalism and ... the common kicker, the perpetual fight over natural resources. Socchi in ten years will be remembered, unfortunately, in ten years not for the Olympics, but for the bloodbath that is coming to the surrounding region.

Posted by: Czar Peter at February 19, 2014 07:46 AM (O1JYR)

318 And let me add---- That is why the Socchi - Sarajevo comparisons are so appropriate.

Posted by: Czar Peter at February 19, 2014 07:51 AM (O1JYR)

319

Ukraine, Venezuela, the United States, bad time for the communist.

 

Posted by: burt at February 19, 2014 08:20 AM (1+kJ5)

320 &

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