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February 27, 2014

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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Thursday.

My pal the Anchoress had some thoughts about the "Great-Gay-Marriage-Wedding-Cake-Debacle-of-2014" that everyone should read.

Rep. Camp's new tax reform plan singles out the makers of violent video games for disfavorable tax treatment.

Townhall's Guy Benson went on a Twitter rampage after Sen. Reid claimed on the Senate floor that every person claiming to be harmed by Obamacare is lying.

Nightmare Fuel: I didn't know about this until the report was released yesterday, but there was apparently a NASA spacesuit malfunction in which the wearer could have drowned during a space walk. Yes, drowned in space.

The Republican fight to retake the Senate just seriously improved with the Ken Buck-Cory Gardner switch.

This is how the zombie apocalypse starts, I think.

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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, February 27, 2014. On this day in 1939 the Supreme Court ruled that sit-down strikes violate property owners' rights and are therefore illegal. And where is Ted "the swimmer's" much touted Stare Decisis? (NLRB v. Fansteel Metallurgical Coorp.) Property owners no longer have any rights in today's tyrannical oligarchy.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:51 AM (T2V/1)

2 Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is being hammered by Republican lawmakers after he claimed on the Senate floor that all the ObamaCare "horror stories" being circulated are untrue.

Don't just hammer him, call for a motion to censure him. His shit got old a long time ago.

http://tinyurl.com/pjn447q

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:51 AM (T2V/1)

3 Jan Brewer has bowed to the gay Nazi's and the milquetoast apologists and vetoed the amendment to the Religious Liberty bill. McShitty was the first to congratulate her. Show who the opponents are.

(Ace had breif w/o link, here is link)

http://tinyurl.com/q4v395u

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

4 DAY 479 985 to go (1,058 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 02:52 AM (olDqf)

5 Ben Shapiro of BB spanks the opponents of the AZ law that Jan Brewer has vetoed with a "7 myths" column.

http://tinyurl.com/mr62nl7

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

6 Eat this all you asshole opponents of AZ. SC has a law similar to the one AZ proposed and it has been on the books for 15 years. AND there are 17 other States with similar laws!

http://tinyurl.com/pud4s8x

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

7 Heritage is also not happy with that veto.

http://tinyurl.com/nl75nvu

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

8 Another report on the Keystone Pipeline supporting it has been issued. But as long as King Tut is in office it is going nowhere.

http://tinyurl.com/pmsxzjs

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

9 Government cheese found on Chinese mummies from 1615BC.

http://tinyurl.com/ow32fck

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

10 Obama, in a sweeping bipartisan move, seeking reconciliation with conservatives, has nominated an anti-second amendment idiot as the Surgeon General pick. Rand Paul is not happy and has placed a "hold" on the nomination. However, a spokesman for Hairy the Pederast has said he will violate tradition and move forward.

http://tinyurl.com/pxa2pmo

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

11 A Federal asshole has struck down the TX ban on gay marriage. Perhaps Texas should pass a law saying they strike down federal judges opinions and no longer consider them valid. It's coming to that people.

http://tinyurl.com/q9ztbey

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

12 Lois Lerner's attorney says she will not testify unless she is given immunity or a court orders her to. I would be temped on the immunity thing if she were willing to implicate Obama in the illegal targeting. But I guarantee that will never happen. So the choice is get a court order or cite her with criminal contempt. (and I am not a lawyer but I always thought that a subpoena had the power of a court order already)

http://tinyurl.com/q3kp8m4

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

13 Hope you all had a chance to see the Jew-hating puke at UCLA meltdown as the anti-Israel vote got defeated. Have no idea who she is, but I'd bet she's Jewish by birth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 02:54 AM (olDqf)

14 Winding down the overnight shift. Good morning daywalkers.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 02:54 AM (sQ0LB)

15 I don't know if this is another case of anti-religion or just plain stupid.

A Mississippi woman says she waged a nearly three-week battle to get pictures of Bible Scripture printed, after the photo department at a national chain store insisted that her images of Gospel inspiration violated copyright laws.

Hey Walgreen's I don't think the bible has ever been "copyrighted" as there were no copyright laws when it was written and if it did even Mickey Mouse can't get it extended for a millennium.

http://tinyurl.com/poa4vc2

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

16 Aleut village has been fighting for 30 years to build an 11 mile gravel road to a town with an airport so they can fly people who need emergency medical treatment to Anchorage. The Obamanites shot it down citing need to protect wild life. I would demand, thorough a court, how a one lane gravel road will impact wildlife. And to top it off they State and the Tribe have offered over 50,000 acres of land to offset the 1,000 acres needed for the road!

The Interior Department, though, argued that giving up refuge land would set a bad precedent.

19 people have died as a result of there being no connecting road. ItÂ’s the delta smelt all over again. People aren't worth a shit when it comes to wildlife, even bugs.

http://tinyurl.com/n9cf97y

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

17 Obama/Kerry drawing another stupid red line over the Ukraine. Putin will give them noogies and wedgies and send them on their way. This is another case where I don't see a clear and present danger to the US.

http://tinyurl.com/nvyksen

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

18 Obama's war on energy continues as the NTSB rules that shipping oil on rail cars is an unacceptable risk.

http://tinyurl.com/nqbmcpl

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

19 The Issa dog and pony show with Lerner is idiotic. We need a special prosecutor for this as well as Benghazi and F&F. But since Boehner and the GOP are a wing of the Democrat party, that ain't happening.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 02:55 AM (olDqf)

My pal the Anchoress had some thoughts about the "Great-Gay-Marriage-Wedding-Cake-Debacle-of-2014" that everyone should read.

Yes, I can see why you'd recommend it, Gabe. Mewling, weak-watery piece of crap is what it is.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 27, 2014 02:55 AM (zF6Iw)

21 For you Chevy truck fans; the new Chevy truck with the 420HP Vette engine.

http://tinyurl.com/phgyw6b

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

22 Today is the feast day of Saint Gabriel Possenti, patron saint of handgunners.

http://www.gunsaint.com/

Try to do something appropriate, if not today, this weekend.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 27, 2014 02:55 AM (PD6iL)

23 A 30 year study of cholesterol and eggs has shown that eating one egg a day has no impact on a person's cholesterol levels, even if you already have high cholesterol. This is good news for me.

http://tinyurl.com/mv8fz4a

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

24 What is new about the NASA report is that the incident is the second such with the same suit. The first never made it up the chain of command at NASA. What I was surprised to learn when it was reported on FNC is that the suits they are using were designed 35 years ago.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 02:55 AM (DmNpO)

25 Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore testified before a Senate committee this week, admitting that any link between human emissions and global warming is dubious at best: Â“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth's atmosphere over the past 100 years.Â” He added, Â“Today, we live in an unusually cold period in the history of life on earth and there is no reason to believe that a warmer climate would be anything but beneficial for humans and the majority of other species. There is ample reason to believe that a sharp cooling of the climate would bring disastrous results for human civilization.Â” The science is settled.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 27, 2014 02:55 AM (CnA98)

26 The NFL is looking at adding the 6-letter "F" word at the same time they ban the 'N" word. I'm glad I gave up on the NFL long ago.

http://tinyurl.com/qjap3oy

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

27 16 Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 06:54 AM (T2V/1) If I were in that Aleut village, I'd build the friggin' road and tell the Feds to go to Hell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 02:56 AM (olDqf)

28 Constitutional law experts testifying before the House Judiciary Committee stated that they were in danger of ceding all legislative power to the empirical Presidency. IOW congress is in danger of allowing the creation of another Caesar. This one being an active communist and America hater. I am sure the Democrats in the House and Senate are not moved.

http://tinyurl.com/jwmsgda

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

29 Morning all. Love me the eggs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 02:56 AM (t3UFN)

30 People are getting fed up with Obamacide and we haven't even got to the real kicker when it hits employer provided plans. But not to worry, the Republicans will give us amnesty as the hill to die on AND campaign on.

http://tinyurl.com/kcpg6vu

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

31 My beuno amjgo, Senator John McCain would like all you morons to have little taste of his scrotum this morning. Have a joyous day peons !

Posted by: Mi nombre es C. Mc Morris-Rogers y me gusta pene. at February 27, 2014 02:56 AM (Cs2tJ)

32 If you thought the House leadership was bad before wait until you read this. Recall our discussion of the conservative proposal to kill the flood insurance program yesterday? Well conservatives, including a committee head, have said they will not support the Senate bill that has come to the House.

Guess what the leadership is doing. If you said going to Maxine Waters to seek votes for passing you would be right. The House has abandoned the Hastert rule completely.

http://tinyurl.com/porlfk8

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

33 Noted biological expert Barbara Boxer says the Keystone Pipeline will cause cancer. I guess Bidenisms have become contagious among Democrats.

http://tinyurl.com/pycmqj3

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

34 I think this has already been discussed in some of the comments. More thuggish behavior by cops (this one in MD). The cop tells a student filming an arrest he has no rights and to STFU and get out. One good thing is the student did not have his dog or his grandmother with him.

http://tinyurl.com/msnhfel

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

35 And speaking of thuggish behavior, professional grievance groups at Dartmouth have seen how it worked at UMI so they have issued a long list of demands and say they will do violence if they are not met. I say expel every damn one of them for this ad press charges because it is a felony. But I would bet a 6-pack they will cave.

http://tinyurl.com/n5ynt6l

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

36 The Interior Department, though, argued that giving up refuge land would set a bad precedent. ========================== Fuck 'em. Alaska should build the road anyway. Saying sorry is easier than asking for permission,

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 02:58 AM (SMd3b)

37 Hairy Reid brings Teh Stoopid again, and Our Side ripostes with a "Twitter rant!"

Damn, no wonder the libs are winning....

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 02:58 AM (ff7/5)

38 House whip says Obama is doing everything he can do to block the investigation of the IRS's illegal targeting of conservative groups. And get this; Obama's new IRS rules that expand their ability to do this shit EXEMPTS the damn unions. I am flabbergasted that he is willing to have this up front. This should have been widely reported but the MFM has been strangely silent. We have to learn about it on the DC via a Fox news talk program.

http://tinyurl.com/mcoxyb6

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

39 We talked about bad science and gibberish studies yesterday. Here is one from one of those Global Warming idiot orgs that will blow your socks off.

http://tinyurl.com/lde7s8h

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

A short story today, because I'm teetering on the edge of a banning:

During the casting for Gone With the Wind, Katharine Hepburn was particularly insistent that she was born to play the Southern belle. "I am Scarlett O'Hara!" she would insist to anyone who would listen. Finally, she managed to wangle an audience with producer David O. Selznick.

"That part was practically written for me!" she told Selznick, who only shook his head. "Well, why not?" she demanded.

Selznick looked her in the eyes. "I can't imagine Rhett Butler chasing you for ten years."

BBT.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 27, 2014 02:58 AM (zF6Iw)

41 Joe Scarborough is in SC campaigning for the 2016 primaries. Question is, which Party will he campaign for? But seriously, this just another effort to flood the primary field to block good candidates?

http://tinyurl.com/m8toy2m

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:59 AM (T2V/1)

42 Get a load of Obama's economic experts who support raising the minimum raise.

http://tinyurl.com/mkbnn54

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:59 AM (T2V/1)

43 Interesting article on France is a harbinger of the Obama America to come http://bit.ly/1hW1c33

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 02:59 AM (SMd3b)

44 Here is a very stupid project that the DOD is funding that should be cut with a lot of others to halt the stupid destruction of the military.

http://tinyurl.com/msak6ca

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 02:59 AM (T2V/1)

45 Ben Shapiro of BB crashes a UCLA hearing and spanks them over Jew Hatred.

http://tinyurl.com/psulka6

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:00 AM (T2V/1)

46 Less that half of SC Republicans support lady Lindsay says a Winthrop University poll (liberal leaning, the headline says it all). But the crowded field is diluting the opposition says this article. Well liberal paper, a runoff will take care of that. As I told someone yesterday, we have a good chance to get rid of this RINO this time.

http://tinyurl.com/oclnmqc

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:00 AM (T2V/1)

47 We have been told here that these problems with common core are caused by poor State implementation. Read this article and find out why that is not true. This was originally a bill to remove common core from SC schools or to seriously challenge the way it is implemented.

http://tinyurl.com/pb5dzw4

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:00 AM (T2V/1)

48 Joe Scarborough is in SC campaigning for the 2016 primaries. Question is, which Party will he campaign for? But seriously, this just another effort to flood the primary field to block good candidates? http://tinyurl.com/m8toy2m Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 06:59 AM (T2V/1) Look he doens't have a real job so he is just bored

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 03:00 AM (t3UFN)

49 In a link to the article yesterday about the FCC stopping the newsroom monitoring I said it would be back because they only put it on hold. Well, the Republican on the FCC commission agrees and he wants it killed permanently.

http://tinyurl.com/pkzwdfh

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:01 AM (T2V/1)

50 36 Hairy Reid brings Teh Stoopid again, and Our Side ripostes with a "Twitter rant!" Damn, no wonder the libs are winning.... Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 06:58 AM (ff7/5) If Marco Rubio really wanted to score points, he should have interrupted Reid and called him out as a liar. (Full disclosure: he'd score points with me, but I still would not support him for POTUS)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:01 AM (olDqf)

51 Re #36 --

I didn't give the dude enough credit, I guess. It was a "Twitter rampage!"

Medal-worthy, for sure.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 03:01 AM (ff7/5)

52 5 VW workers have filed a motion with the NLRB to disregard the union call for another election. I fear they will be ignored.

http://tinyurl.com/pg58fsb

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:01 AM (T2V/1)

53 Jan Brewer has bowed to the gay Nazi's and the milquetoast apologists and vetoed the amendment to the Religious Liberty bill. McShitty was the first to congratulate her. Show who the opponents are. *** Kirstin Powers was tweeting out her congrats to Brewer last night when Brit Hume responded with this: Brit Hume ‏@brithume 9h Kirsten you should read this: Â“http://www.azpolicy.org/media-uploads/pdfs/Letter_to_Gov_Brewer_re_Arizona_RFRA.pdf Â… @kirstenpowers10: Bless you! RT @GovBrewer: Moments ago, I vetoed #SB1062. She responded that she has already read it and Brit inquired of her: "Unmoved?" Of course she's unmoved! Facts mean nothing in the war on religious freedom.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 03:01 AM (DmNpO)

54 Amnesty traitor Rubio is making more preps for running in 2016.

http://tinyurl.com/nqjthqx

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:01 AM (T2V/1)

55 Ramirez on the defense cuts

http://tinyurl.com/nl3dnoy

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:01 AM (T2V/1)

56 Bad link, here it is: http://t.co/RaNmKXrCtk

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 03:02 AM (DmNpO)

57 Conservative Babe at IBD talks about Obama impeachment.

http://tinyurl.com/nf6euos

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:02 AM (T2V/1)

58 Kindle Daily Deals

http://tinyurl.com/pd8st6v

Note: Toward the last sites I normally review I lopped them off short because I was already hitting 8 pp.

That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:02 AM (T2V/1)

59 Amnesty traitor Rubio is making more preps for running in 2016. *** I don't care what he said to Harkin re the Communists. He has NOT won we over. I'm not sure he ever did win me over.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 03:03 AM (DmNpO)

Meh, one more day, deeper in debt, printing fiat money electronically now, so not thrilled and this crap is going to drag on for three more years.

Posted by: Gmac at February 27, 2014 03:03 AM (4pjhs)

61 From the Anchoress I have reveled in the fast-paced give-and-take of the internet for many years, but increasingly, no one is listening to anyone. There is no more give-and-take, there is only take-and-shove-down. I agree with her/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2014 03:05 AM (XyM/Y)

62 Good piece from The Anchoress. Thanks for linking that, Gabe.

Good morning, all!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 27, 2014 03:05 AM (b/lt+)

63 Ancient cheese and a patron saint of handgunners. Vic's links are priceless.

Posted by: real joe at February 27, 2014 03:05 AM (xXhgd)

64 59 Amnesty traitor Rubio is making more preps for running in 2016. *** I don't care what he said to Harkin re the Communists. He has NOT won we over. I'm not sure he ever did win me over. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 07:03 AM (DmNpO) It was an epic smack down of that piece of shit Harkin. Had he squared the circle and called out the Democrat party and equated them with the Cubans, Norks, ChiComs et al, then that would have been perfect. ButÂ… I still won't support him for POTUS. Even if he totally renounced his Amnesty position and if there was a way to hold him to it. No way.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:06 AM (olDqf)

65 Rep. Camp's new tax reform plan...

I looked at those plans a few days ago on the "leak". It has a few good points, it totally ignores some grievous crap in the credits category, and it has some bad points.

But what bothers me the most is, like every negotiating tactic Boner ever does, he starts out the negotiation with a compromise. So we are already half-way in the hole at the start and by the time Boner is done all the good points will be gone, a bunch of new bad ones will be added, and Boner will get a new dam some where and a sack of magic beans.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:07 AM (T2V/1)

66 I don't know if this is another case of anti-religion or just plain stupid.

Did you actually read the article? The woman wanted unauthorized copies of someone else's photo and graphic design, which is illegal and wrong even if there's a Bible verse accompanying it.

If she'd just tried to get photo prints of her favorite verse with no stolen image, no problem.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 03:07 AM (hO8IJ)

67 My pal the Anchoress.... is wrong.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:08 AM (T2V/1)

68 Perhaps Texas should pass a law saying they strike down federal judges opinions and no longer consider them valid. It's coming to that people. Seconded.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 03:08 AM (xZxMD)

69 Let's face it; we ain't gonna get anywhere with the GOP as it stands today. Take it back or take it down.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:09 AM (olDqf)

70 I'm still against impeachment. The politics are just horrible, and so long lasting. Lets win the midterms and see where that leaves us. Can we exile people afterwards? Hairy Read to Venezuela, say, and Nancy Pelosi to Kazakhstan. Or vice versa.

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 03:09 AM (SMd3b)

71 I have reveled in the fast-paced give-and-take of the internet for many years, but increasingly, no one is listening to anyone. There is no more give-and-take, there is only take-and-shove-down.

I seem to recall Jesus shoving some people down when they were harming His people to profit themselves.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 03:11 AM (hO8IJ)

72 If I were in that Aleut village, I'd build the friggin' road and tell the Feds to go to Hell. The "war" optics would be awesome. Who wins? Fedgov or First Peoples?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 03:13 AM (xZxMD)

73 My pal the Anchoress had some thoughts about the "Great-Gay-Marriage-Wedding-Cake-Debacle-of-2014" that everyone should read. Boy, does she love the sound of her own voice. Since your pal is such a devotee of purple prose, she missed a good opportunity to work "vituperation" into a sentence.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2014 03:13 AM (JDIKC)

74 69 I'm still against impeachment. The politics are just horrible, and so long lasting. Lets win the midterms and see where that leaves us. Can we exile people afterwards? Hairy Read to Venezuela, say, and Nancy Pelosi to Kazakhstan. Or vice versa. Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 07:09 AM (SMd3b) Disagree. Morality and law trump optics. Plus, the oath of office has been abrogated numerous times by SCOAMF, Holder on down. It is the duty of the House to bring forth articles of impeachment no matter if they have the votes or not, or regardless of whether an indictment will come down. Must be done.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:15 AM (olDqf)

75 Good morning, Vic- What specifically do you feel The Anchoress is wrong about? She is a faithful practicing RC and believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman. She doesn't feel that people should be made to violate their consciences by baking a cake but she sees the idea that baking such a cake could be a tool for evangelization and she deplores the strident shouting of each side.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2014 03:15 AM (XyM/Y)

76 58 I don't care what he said to Harkin re the Communists. He has NOT won we over. I'm not sure he ever did win me over.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 07:03 AM (DmNpO)

He can win me back over if he goes on Fox and says he was totally wrong in supporting the Democrat's amnesty and he removes himself from it, breaks out a bible and swears to God that he will never support another amnesty program.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:16 AM (T2V/1)

77 Journalism is where the tough questions are asked and in depth research reveals results... Because journalism's 3 days on the job "earn" a journalist the Cronkite Award. Â“The theme of the evening is global education and service,Â” the tip sheet reads, according to the Post. Â“All press are required to stay strictly on message. Any press who ask guests or Mr. Farrow about off-message topics will be immediately escorted out of the event.Â” How it goes for 'the beautiful people'.//Hey, it worked for Obama. Is this to be the other half of the democrat party's ticket dream team potus '16?

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 03:16 AM (MhA4j)

78 Thanks Vic. I still think we should crowd source funding for you to buy the LA Times. I'd look forward to your analysis of the Khalidi video.

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 03:17 AM (SMd3b)

79 69 Lets win the midterms and see where that leaves us. Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 07:09 AM (SMd3b) Need I remind you, from 2001 until 2006 the GOP held the White House and both the Senate and House with supermajorities. We won elections. And what did we get? The most profligate spending and expansion of the government in history until the coming of SCOAMF. Winning elections only matters when principled conservatives win them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:17 AM (olDqf)

80 He can win me back over if he goes on Fox and says he was totally wrong in supporting the Democrat's amnesty and he removes himself from it, breaks out a bible and swears to God that he will never support another ~~amnesty program~~ Democrat. Fixed.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 03:18 AM (xZxMD)

81 65 Did you actually read the article? The woman wanted unauthorized copies of someone else's photo and graphic design, which is illegal and wrong even if there's a Bible verse accompanying it.

If she'd just tried to get photo prints of her favorite verse with no stolen image, no problem.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 07:07 AM (hO8IJ)

I skimmed it very quickly. I did not realize she was making copies of someone else's work. The lead implied she photoed the bible itself

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:18 AM (T2V/1)

The "Ken Buck/Cory Gardner switch" is emblematic of why conservatives are fed up with the GOP. It's backroom cynical politics of the worst kind. It's the establishment trying again to freeze out a legitimate conservative candidate: Owen Hill.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2014 03:19 AM (eytER)

83 My pal the Anchoress had some thoughts about the "Great-Gay-Marriage-Wedding-Cake-Debacle-of-2014" that everyone should read. When I ran a business I provided health insurance to my employees. That insurance paid for abortions. I signed the check that paid for that insurance. I paid for that abortion. I did not want to pay for anyone's abortion. Using the 'conscience exemption' provided I dropped that part of the policy. The Anchoress perhaps thinks I should have just shut up and paid, and be civil about it. Maybe it's time for her to unplug her keyboard if she's tired of the fight.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 27, 2014 03:20 AM (CnA98)

84 75 What specifically do you feel The Anchoress is wrong about? She is a faithful practicing RC and believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman. She doesn't feel that people should be made to violate their consciences by baking a cake but she sees the idea that baking such a cake could be a tool for evangelization and she deplores the strident shouting of each side.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2014 07:15 AM (XyM/Y)

She was against the AZ law based on the bad interpretations of it the MFM is putting out.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:20 AM (T2V/1)

85 There are many hard-working Latinos who understand the dangers of Amnesty. Rubio could have been one of those and had he taken the principled stand and explained it, there is no doubt he would have been nominated in 2016. No doubt whatsoever. Instead, he bought into the "racism/xenophobia" dodge and became another politician. The Cuban Combover is over-over.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:21 AM (olDqf)

86 The NFL is looking at adding the 6-letter "F" word at the same time they ban the 'N" word. I'm glad I gave up on the NFL long ago.

http://tinyurl.com/qjap3oy

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 06:56 AM (T2V/1)

The owners, many of which are lib shtiheads, have got to send that pudgy tub of shit Goodell back to the league mailroom before he makes the NFL a laughingstock. The league is certainly able to declare what words are inappropriate for the work place but this list of banned words just makes the job of the zebras, who are already overloaded with hard to enforce rules, increasingly unable to avoid looking like inept clowns.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 03:22 AM (FQEMb)

87 78 Thanks Vic. I still think we should crowd source funding for you to buy the LA Times. I'd look forward to your analysis of the Khalidi video.

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 07:17 AM (SMd3b)

You can still get the LA Times on the 'net. I have a link for it but I don't normally go to it for news links. I already have enough liberal papers/news sources.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:22 AM (T2V/1)

Mary Frann (RIP)

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Wait, what?!?

*checking Wikipedia...*

Damn.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2014 03:22 AM (eytER)

89 Disagree. Morality and law trump optics. ========================= I hear you JJ, but consider for a moment what we are trying to achieve here. We are trying to win the debate on ideas, and not repudiate Obama as a person. Impeachment, while fully called for, is the easy way out in this case and polarizing beyond anything we've ever seen. Worse, the debate gets totally subsumed in the personal fight over Obama.

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 03:23 AM (SMd3b)

90 The owners, many of which are lib shtiheads, have got to send that pudgy tub of shit Goodell back to the league mailroom before he makes the NFL a laughingstock. The league is certainly able to declare what words are inappropriate for the work place but this list of banned words just makes the job of the zebras, who are already overloaded with hard to enforce rules, increasingly unable to avoid looking like inept clowns *** thank you, Jonathan Martin

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 03:23 AM (DmNpO)

91 84 Posted by: Gran at February 27, 2014 07:20 AM (mw0FO) Big Joan Bennett fan. "Scarllett Street" - hubba bubba! ANDÂ… she was the aunt of Morton Downey Jr. (whom I knew and was a really nice guy).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:24 AM (olDqf)

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How many of these owners actually played the game? So much shit gets said in that line before the snap that N****** and F***** are downright tame.

If a guy is taking offense at those, he has no business as a lineman in the first place.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2014 03:24 AM (eytER)

93 79 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 07:17 AM (olDqf)

We did not have a super-majority in the Senate (60 votes). Republicans have not had that in well over 100 years.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:24 AM (T2V/1)

94 Hey anybody else having trouble getting into Weasel Zippers?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 03:25 AM (t3UFN)

Hey anybody else having trouble getting into Weasel Zippers?

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Yes, but only if I don't have a good wingman.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2014 03:26 AM (eytER)

96 90 I hear you JJ, but consider for a moment what we are trying to achieve here. We are trying to win the debate on ideas, and not repudiate Obama as a person.

Impeachment, while fully called for, is the easy way out in this case and polarizing beyond anything we've ever seen. Worse, the debate gets totally subsumed in the personal fight over Obama.

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 07:23 AM (SMd3b)

Yes we should repudiate Obama the America hating communist person.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:27 AM (T2V/1)

97 I am apparently missing the point of the gay cakes kerfuffle.

Yesterday I heard a well-known lawyer in this parts talking about the Arizona legislation (we're not in Arizona), and the problem seems to be, from their perspective, that if Arizona wants to allow businesses to discriminate against gay people, they are going to lose out on tons of business.

The logic just floors me. I can't stand listening to lawyers anyway, because they don't use reason. Really, they don't.

But this one is particularly egregious. How does one turn this around and make it about discrimination?

Anything to get their way, I guess. And people are too stupid to realize they're being bamboozled, again. Or is that still?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 03:28 AM (BeSEI)

98 90 Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 07:23 AM (SMd3b) You just made my argument. When you bring articles of impeachment, you are laying out the case against SCOAMF in no uncertain terms. If the GOP stood behind Ted Cruz, if it had fought tooth and nail with every Constitutional and parliamentary procedure at its disposal since 2009 to stop this insanity - if it attacked the evil instead of the people trying to do good the message would get out. In other words, you bring up articles of impeachment and stand behind it loudly. People are suffering and dying because of Obamacare. They will understand and support it. Do what Reagan did and go over the heads of the MFM direct to the public. It can and I think should be done, come what may.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:28 AM (olDqf)

99 95 Hey anybody else having trouble getting into Weasel Zippers?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 07:25 AM (t3UFN)

Yes, it was down this morning, otherwise I probably would have had 9 pp instead of 8.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:28 AM (T2V/1)

100 Need I remind you, from 2001 until 2006 the GOP held the White House and both the Senate and House with supermajorities. We won elections. And what did we get? =============================== I sort of give the Republicans a pass on those years, because of the post 9/11 fears, but--no question-- you are right to say they have to put up or shut up after the fall. If Boehner, McVain and the other old bulls think they've ridden out the Tea Party upheavals and can return to "good government", there will be an explosion of political activity like nothing they've ever imagined.

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 03:30 AM (SMd3b)

101 Impeachment, while fully called for, is the easy way out in this case and polarizing beyond anything we've ever seen. Worse, the debate gets totally subsumed in the personal fight over Obama. Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 07:23 AM

So we endorse law-breaking by doing nothing about it because people would call us big, bad racist meanies?

Screw that.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 03:30 AM (ff7/5)

102 93 Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2014 07:24 AM (eytER) Rush made an amazing point yesterday. The left doesn't want to abolish football. It wants to co-opt it and use it to advance their social ends. Bang-zoom! "Rollerball" but with pillows.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:30 AM (olDqf)

103 It can and I think should be done, come what may. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 07:28 AM

Or, if we really wanted to stick it to Choom Boy for his serial felonies, we could go on a Twitter RampageÂ©!

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 03:32 AM (ff7/5)

104 3. Record. No surprise since she vetoed a similar bill last year. On show yesterday, Rush defended his honor (against the MSM making Rush their squirrel) for defending her right to decide based on legitimacy without being "bullied" by the perpetual wolf criers. Warzon Wimmins -- who's on first in America's favorite pass time. Aside from capitulating under duress, IF that were what happened, which of the Bill's supporters were prepared to withstand the NFL/MSM/PC economic boycott and next election fallout ballot ending up "all about cake". McCain Antoinette: Let Them Eat Cake! Historically, off with their heads? Cycles come. Sickles go.

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 03:32 AM (MhA4j)

105 So, can I go into a gay bakery and demand they make a cake for me with the words "Homosexuality is Evil?" (not that I would; I would not want to sample the frosting)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:33 AM (olDqf)

106 Wow, nobody said it yet so, this morning's newscast could be bound and libaried as "Shit Vic Said Vol. XXI." What a volume of investigation. Thanks, Vic.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 27, 2014 03:35 AM (xq1UY)

107 In his obsession over legalizing homo marriage, didn't Malor say that there wouldn't be any lawsuits forcing bidnesspeople to trash their beliefs in deference to the most important extension of civil rights in the history of the Republic? I honestly can't remember and want to know if he's being disingenuous in not wanting any bills against what he said wouldn't happen.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 03:35 AM (FQEMb)

108 "NTSB rules that shipping oil on rail cars is an unacceptable risk." If only we had, like, some history, some experience, on shipping oil by rail, so we could know what those risks might be! Or, I dunno, some safe, proven way of piping stuff like that around. TRAITORS ARE IN CHARGE IF THE COUNTRY. Not news to folks here, I know. I just needed a good morning scream. Â§ Morning, Glories.

Posted by: mindful webworker at February 27, 2014 03:35 AM (u1ZOY)

109 They should go ahead and build that road in Alaska. When the feds show up, spray DDT on 'em.

Posted by: Case at February 27, 2014 03:35 AM (VctSv)

110 104 Or, if we really wanted to stick it to Choom Boy for his serial felonies, we could go on a Twitter RampageÂ©! Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 07:32 AM (ff7/5) You're quoting "Shit George Mason Said" Volume 2-a.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:36 AM (olDqf)

111 Ronan Farrow Receives Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism -- After 3 Days on Air! If he had any integrity, and he does not, he would refuse the reward.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 27, 2014 03:36 AM (6Nj7A)

112 112 Ronan Farrow Receives Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism -- After 3 Days on Air! If he had any integrity, and he does not, he would refuse the reward. Posted by: Judge Pug at February 27, 2014 07:36 AM (6Nj7A) It's like a president getting a Nobel Peace Prize 2 days after his inauguration. Weird...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:37 AM (olDqf)

113 It's like a president getting a Nobel Peace Prize 2 days after his inauguration. Weird... Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 07:37 AM

Or getting an Academy Award for a movie you fully intend to make...some day.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 03:39 AM (ff7/5)

114 108 In his obsession over legalizing homo marriage, didn't Malor say that there wouldn't be any lawsuits forcing bidnesspeople to trash their beliefs in deference to the most important extension of civil rights in the history of the Republic? I honestly can't remember and want to know if he's being disingenuous in not wanting any bills against what he said wouldn't happen. Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 07:35 AM (FQEMb) Might I suggest you read Mark Levin's "Men In Black" since he states, presciently, that the SCOTUS will decide this issue and that will be that. He asks, well, if someone refuses to serve someone for religious reasons, will they be imprisoned/fined?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:40 AM (olDqf)

115 Thanks Vic. Always appreciate the VNN in the AM. (Vic News Network)

Posted by: bp_nj at February 27, 2014 03:41 AM (ph70Q)

116 god help the first white ref who flags a black player for using the n word. This whole thing is going to be a such a cluster.

Posted by: Mainah at February 27, 2014 03:41 AM (659DL)

117 Ronan Farrow Receives Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism -- After 3 Days on Air! *** C'mon! that's not fair. He also interviewed Miley Cyrus for 'W' magazine. http://t.co/3PDzEYSVMH

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 03:41 AM (DmNpO)

118 thank you, Jonathan Martin

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 07:23 AM (DmNpO)

I deliberately avoided every fucking article and radio/television commentary on that stupidity because that's the type of nonsense that produces an ESPN spooge explosion as the World's Leader in Sports Entertainment Broadcasting looks for stupid items to justify their existence. I should've known that an unprincipled commissioner like Goodell would react like a shrieking ninny to it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 03:42 AM (FQEMb)

119 Col. Ralph Peters yesterday on Fox said the military cutbacks are more devastating than reported because by today's military standards, a unit of 400,000 personnel only has about 100,000 actual soldiers. The others are support. That is frightening.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:42 AM (olDqf)

120 114 Or getting an Academy Award for a movie you fully intend to make...some day.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 07:39 AM (ff7/5)

I'm surprised they haven't done that yet. Perhaps I should send them a letter and say I am going to make a stupendous movie next year.

Brokeback Mountain meets ugly miltaristic Warlord.

A beautiful and sad story of an innocent gay married couple who defied the SC law and as a result were drafted by the evil George W. Bush cable and sent to torture innocent Iraqi citizens in Abugrave.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:42 AM (T2V/1)

121 117 god help the first white ref who flags a black player for using the n word. This whole thing is going to be a such a cluster. Posted by: Mainah at February 27, 2014 07:41 AM (659DL) A goo-goo cluster?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:43 AM (olDqf)

122 Ronan Farrow: was it the 8 years as a UN fundraiser, the two years as Hillary's special adviser, or does somebody really want to meet his sister?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 27, 2014 03:43 AM (xq1UY)

123 "We...we..we...had a chance tonight to end the..the... y'know...and I'm like...like...we fucking blew it...we fucking....sob...sob...

Posted by: Tiffany Rosenstein, UCLA Class of 2016 at February 27, 2014 03:43 AM (ph70Q)

124 The lead implied she photoed the bible itself

Which still could be wrong. The text of the KJV is public domain, but recent translations probably aren't, unless the author publisher specifically releases it into the public domain. And Bible publishers own the copyright to their instantiation of the work...illustrations, footnotes, font and coloring.

I have a copy of the New International Version within arm's reach (despite the fact I have made God cry by being too ugly to be lovable and too stupid to get knocked up without a husband...eh); the front page says the International Bible Society has copyrighted it in 1973 and 1984, and they grant permission to copy passages only for services and instruction, and only less than a thousand copies.

All seems reasonable to me. Jesus was generous but he never insisted the labor of others be stolen from them for his followers' personal gain.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 03:43 AM (hO8IJ)

125 Col. Ralph Peters yesterday on Fox said the military cutbacks are more devastating than reported because by today's military standards, a unit of 400,000 personnel only has about 100,000 actual soldiers. The others are support. That is frightening. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 07:42 AM (olDqf) the pay cuts are also going to be devastating to moral

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 03:44 AM (t3UFN)

126 He asks, well, if someone refuses to serve someone for religious reasons, will they be imprisoned/fined? ''All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.'' Military service for Quakers? Nope. ObamaCare for the Amish? Nope. Catholics? Under the bus. The Anchoress? Shut up and take it. It's no wonder she gets the Gabe 'badge of honor'.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 27, 2014 03:45 AM (CnA98)

127 Good morning, morons. I'm not sick, but I'm not well And I'm so hot Cause I'm in hell

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 03:45 AM (z+Xap)

128 C'mon! that's not fair.

He also interviewed Miley Cyrus for 'W' magazine. http://t.co/3PDzEYSVMH

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 07:41 AM (DmNpO)

Me must have narrowly beat out the First Eternal Special Needs Child for her tough on air interview with the Geico Gecko.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 03:46 AM (FQEMb)

129 I deliberately avoided every fucking article and radio/television commentary on that stupidity because that's the type of nonsense that produces an ESPN spooge explosion as the World's Leader in Sports Entertainment Broadcasting looks for stupid items to justify their existence. I should've known that an unprincipled commissioner like Goodell would react like a shrieking ninny to it. *** When the story first broke, I was skeptical. As more and more was revealed it appeared to be a really serious situation of harassment and intimidation and, despite Martin being a big boy, it was unacceptable. Now... however, it is coming out that Martin gave as good as he got. I believe it was Stossel (?) who had access to the files and said that Martin was every bit as vulgar and vile in his interactions with Incognito as Incognito had been with Martin. Now the entire league will pay.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 03:47 AM (DmNpO)

130 126 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 07:44 AM (t3UFN) Well, that's just fucking evil and vindictive. But what the hell are we going to do when the ChiComs invade Taiwan or the Spratley's? We are virtually naked and unarmed. Our allies know it and our enemies know it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:47 AM (olDqf)

131 He asks, well, if someone refuses to serve someone for religious reasons, will they be imprisoned/fined?

I'd expect them to lose their state/local licenses at minimum. You're free to believe whatever you want, but you're not free to make a living unless you do what you're told.

Which to be fair is not just gay stuff, but all kinds of eco- and "health"- stuff anymore. You can smoke, but you can't operate a business that allows smoking on the premises. Etc.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 03:48 AM (hO8IJ)

132 The Anchoress entirely misses the point.

The debate is not over whether or not the bakery should bake the cake, the debate is over whether or not the gov't should force the bakery to bake the cake against their religious conscience. The fact that erstwhile conservatives don't see a problem with that shows how little most people - including conservatives - actually understand the concept of freedom.

Sure, some people think it is silly not to bake the cake and scoff at it. Other people of the same religion think you should bake the cake in order to "reach out" to the gay couple. And it is fine to have that debate.

What is not fine, is for the gov't to step in and force the bakery to serve the cake. That is the problem and anyone who doesn't understand that is either an idiot or a liberal.

Either we have freedom of religion wherein I am free to follow the dictates of my religion, or we do not have freedom of religion. You telling me that you (or the gov't) are going to pick and chose which part of my religious beliefs are "kosher" or "important" or "central" is telling me I don't have freedom of religion. What I have then is the freedom to follow the state sanctioned religion - which is exactly the opposite of why this country was founded.

the fact that amongst alleged conservatives we are having this argument is baffling.

Do I think it is silly to refuse to bake a cake because it is being purchased for a gay wedding? Yes, I think that is silly. I don't believe selling that cake is a sin. But that is not my call to make. And it certainly is not the gov't's call to make.

I also don't think people should wear turbans at work or have shaggy beards. Should the gov't force all Muslims and sheiks to not wear turbans and shave? Why not? How is that different? What, someone's right to puchase something is greater than my right to religious freedom?

I am truly aghast at what people who think they are conservative believe. No wonder there are so many silly GOP apologists amongst the "right."

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 27, 2014 03:49 AM (sOx93)

133 What do the Morons think about the link above from Lerner's Lawyer asking for immunity?

Would she rat out OBama if she had immunity?

(BTW, they are basically acknowledging that she violated the law with that letter)

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:49 AM (T2V/1)

134 god help the first white ref who flags a black player for using the n word. This whole thing is going to be a such a cluster. *** Will pronunciation be taken into account? What if they use the word with an "a" at the end?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 03:50 AM (DmNpO)

135 "18 Obama's war on energy continues as the NTSB rules that shipping oil on rail cars is an unacceptable risk.

http://tinyurl.com/nqbmcpl

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 06:55 AM (T2V/1)"

A lot of Obama's stubborn resistance against the Keystone Pipeline has been due to the fact that Warren Buffett owns BNSF which transports oil by rail and a pipeline would cost him a lot of business. Given the Chicago style of governance that characterizes this administration, I suspect that this may be a warning shot to Buffett to shake him down for heavy Democrat campaign contributions in this November elections.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 27, 2014 03:50 AM (PD6iL)

136 What do the Morons think about the link above from Lerner's Lawyer asking for immunity? Would she rat out OBama if she had immunity? (BTW, they are basically acknowledging that she violated the law with that letter) *** I believe she would secure immunity for herself and then proceed to cover ass and provide no valuable intel whatsoever before Congress.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 03:51 AM (DmNpO)

137 The way the NFL is going ten years from now they"ll have no need for pads or helmets. It will just be 22 guys playin' slap and tickle on the field.

Posted by: Case at February 27, 2014 03:51 AM (VctSv)

138 What do the Morons think about the link above from Lerner's Lawyer asking for immunity? Would she rat out OBama if she had immunity? Nope.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 03:52 AM (t3UFN)

139 I believe she would secure immunity for herself and then proceed to cover ass and provide no valuable intel whatsoever before Congress. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 07:51 AM (DmNpO) Yup. She looks like a true believe to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 03:53 AM (t3UFN)

140 There are some promises he keeps, like the Iowa Peace Pledge, and electricity prices going up, necessarily, and bitter clingers, except of a certain variety,

Posted by: coriolianus snw at February 27, 2014 03:53 AM (Jsiw/)

141 Fenelon-

The Anchoress is wrong in that she uses the fact of Christ's associating with sinners to argue for cooperating with sin.

And the bakers struck just that Christian example. They explicitly offered services to all but not cooperation with the perverting of what Catholics believe to be a Sacrament.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 27, 2014 03:53 AM (IVgIK)

142 My pal the Anchoress had some thoughts about the "Great-Gay-Marriage-Wedding-Cake-Debacle-of-2014" that everyone should read. Amen. Thanks for the link, Gabe.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 03:53 AM (IXrOn)

143 Relaxation tipe Take a Coffee Break Sit down with your favorite hot beverage, blow across the top to cool it, and then inhale the fragrant steam. Â“Take a few minutes to do this every time you have a hot drink,Â” advises psychologist and stress expert Ronald G. Nathan, Ph.D., coauthor of Stress Management: A Comprehensive Guide to Wellness . Â“Breathing deeply, slow and from the belly, is the opposite of what we do when weÂ’re stressed, so it resets everything toward relaxation.Â” By also holding the cup with your hands wrapped around it you also loosen a relaxation response in your fingers and hands which carries into your brain.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2014 03:54 AM (XyM/Y)

144 when they flag a black player for using the "n" word....is the ref going to have to say the full word when announcing the penalty.....and will the sportscasters go on through the next play lamenting the use....will they have an instant close up replay circling the mouth of the offending player? have a lip reader in the booth? or will they just mike every player on the field? just wait for the finger pointing and foot stomping! ref!!!! ref!!!! he said the "n" word!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at February 27, 2014 03:54 AM (u8GsB)

145 Rep. Camp's new tax reform plan singles out the makers of violent video games for disfavorable tax treatment. Movies next? After all, they are both rated.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 03:54 AM (IXrOn)

146

What is not fine, is for the gov't to step in and force the bakery to serve the cake. That is the problem and anyone who doesn't understand that is either an idiot or a liberal.

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Or both.

Here's the thing - maybe the bakery is philosophically wrong. Maybe it is making a mistake. BUT SO WHAT? Aren't we supposed to be free to make our own mistakes, to live our lives the way we see fit without authority being all judgmental? Like Ace says, speech and actions that authority agrees with needs no protection...it's the speech and actions that are considered controversial that require the protection. Saying you'll protect stuff you agree with is not a Profile In Courage.

What's happening here is the Gay-Stapo (I love that term) is using government to win an argument. It's a crass application of the logical fallacy of an Appeal to Authority: "hey, the government says you MUST do this, so you will, and because of that you're wrong in your beliefs." And the fact that they are misusing government to this end is the real obscenity in all of this.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2014 03:55 AM (eytER)

147
Do I think it is silly to refuse to bake a cake because it is being purchased for a gay wedding? Yes, I think that is silly. I don't believe selling that cake is a sin. But that is not my call to make. And it certainly is not the gov't's call to make.

If you've ever been a part of a wedding, you know that it's not like you're buying a cake off the shelf and setting it up yourself.

You're actually having the baker participate in the wedding by having to be there, set up the cake, make sure nothing goes wrong, etc...

So, yeah, not "just baking a cake."

Posted by: GMan at February 27, 2014 03:55 AM (sxq57)

148 @133 Did you mean "Muslims and Sikhs"?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 27, 2014 03:55 AM (xq1UY)

149 I have a problem with the government forcing a private business to do anything. It is a violation of property rights.

I can agree with basic health and fire codes as long as it can be shown the ones they propose are satisfying a clear danger to the public. And I do mean clear and compelling.

Of course we lost all property rights with Kelo anyway.

If a business owner wants to NOT serve anyone for any reason that is their call. It may be stupid, it may show bigotry, and it will probably lose them a LOT of customers. But that is (or should be) his right.

People have a right to be stupid.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 03:55 AM (T2V/1)

150 Gay people have come off looking like self-centered, lying jerks. Brutally honest here: If your attitude is "My special day will be rueeeeened unless I can force someone who doesn't want to be there to participate," that's messed up and you're a self-centered jerk. Healthy, well-adjusted people do not think that way; messed up jerks think that way.

Also, when gay activists claimed they wouldn't force Christians to participate in gay marriages, they were obviously lying. Now, of course, they are back-pedaling, "We only meant churches and clergy wouldn't be forced to participate." Saying you have freedom of religion only within your church is like saying you only have freedom of speech in your living room. This once again demonstrates that the people who qhine the loudest about "I don't want other people forcing their values on me," are the people most eager to force their values on everybody else.

Also, the gay activist left won again by being obnoxious. This does not mean they are going to become less obnoxious in the future.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 03:56 AM (+5bkH)

151 Townhall's Guy Benson went on a Twitter rampage after Sen. Reid claimed on the Senate floor that every person claiming to be harmed by Obamacare is lying. Telling cancer patients and the suffering that they are lying. obamacare is torture This man will rot in hell.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 03:57 AM (IXrOn)

152 We did not have a super-majority in the Senate (60 votes). Republicans have not had that in well over 100 years. Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 07:24 AM (T2V/1) And even if we had, at least ten of the MF would have voted with the Dems

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 27, 2014 03:57 AM (R8hU8)

153 130 -

They were freakin' friends!!

This whole thing was painted as one guy being bullied by another, and it was completely not true. Everyone knew that from the beginning, but it was a cause they wanted to get behind (homophobia in the NFL), so they deliberately lied and avoided all discussion of what really happened.

One guy broke down, for whatever reason. Maybe he's gay, and he finally figured out Incognito was not going to have sex with him. We don't know, because the league and the media have protected him from ever having to explain what he was doing, or why he was doing it.

The other guy is left looking like the jerk (which he is, but that's beside the point). And now we have the league becoming the language police.

Congrats, NFL. Just when I think you can't sink any lower in ruining a great game, you top yourselves (pun intended).

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 03:57 AM (BeSEI)

154 Shorter anchoress--embrace the gay agenda and dump Christianity.

Posted by: Null at February 27, 2014 03:58 AM (0OrFt)

155 The Republican fight to retake the Senate just seriously improved with the Ken Buck-Cory Gardner switch. I feel something big is coming. I just don't want to hold my breath. Because, trust.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 03:58 AM (IXrOn)

156 75. and 85. "but she sees the idea that baking such a cake could be a tool for evangelization and she deplores the strident shouting of each side." Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2014 07:15 AM (XyM/Y) Easy for a full time cleric to advance. Or a blogger full of advice for others, advice for situations not really a problem for the blogger. But really shaky ground in this world of real law suit threats that ruin you for a small mom and pop business not owned by a Church. To presume the "right" to religious behavior in American daily life today? Ever since Bush's sacred-interventionist program (faith based initiative buying off congregations and pastors in trade for right to censor the Pulpit terminating both freedom of religion and of speech), even the wealthiest universal Church is being sued by the US Federal Government for not providing abortion services on call at Church hospitals and on Church benefit packages (example). These days, the only ones promoting their own version of "old-time religion" are the hateful Westboro "in your face" congregation of curs and mongrels. In a law court, a business person evangelizing Biblical positions with a customer not of the same faith now faces another precedence OPPOSING freedom of religion and denying free speech. Because of hate crimes ...or something: "See, Westboro!" in the charitable person's face. Hypocritical political activist bigots take immense offense to the least suggestion that a cake baker use the contract to bake as opportunity to express a personal choice contrary to the customer's. The activists won once, and now they've won again.

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 03:59 AM (MhA4j)

157 You may argue that it is silly to refuse to bake a cake for whatever reason but there is no way to argue that it is not an aggressive act to seek out those who would rather not in order to persecute them by lawfare

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 27, 2014 04:00 AM (IVgIK)

158 152 And even if we had, at least ten of the MF would have voted with the Dems

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 27, 2014 07:57 AM (R8hU

Probably. I have always said we would need between 65 and 70 depending on the year. But that is no longer applicable Hairy the Pederast has set the precedent now. I think now all we would need is about 55.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:00 AM (T2V/1)

159 Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 07:49 AM (T2V/1)

I do not believe that she will implicate anyone other than a few flunkies below her. She will admit to some minor transgression, and announce that the buck stopped in her office.

Obama will be clean as a whistle after that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2014 04:01 AM (QFxY5)

160 The other thing about this cake/florist shit is that it has NOTHING to do with actually getting the service. It is lawfare designed to bankrupt the Christian places.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:01 AM (T2V/1)

161 158 You may argue that it is silly to refuse to bake a cake for whatever reason but there is no way to argue that it is not an aggressive act to seek out those who would rather not in order to persecute them by lawfare Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 27, 2014 08:00 AM (IVgIK) ....& you can not argue that a baker should spend a year in jail over not baking a cake......for what ever reason.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at February 27, 2014 04:01 AM (u8GsB)

162 I wrote this yesterday. When I get a patient I dislike or don't really want to treat, I raise my fee considerably. I call it the PIA ( Pain In the Ass) fee. If they choose to find someone cheaper so be it, if they choose to have me treat them, I feel a whole lot better doing it for mega bucks.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:02 AM (t3UFN)

163 I feel something big is coming. I just don't want to hold my breath. Because, trust. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 07:58 AM (IXrOn)

...and because, GOP.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 27, 2014 04:02 AM (MPIX5)

164 132 Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 07:48 AM (hO8IJ) Yup. Points taken. So I guess the sign "We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone" is hate speech.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:02 AM (olDqf)

165 On the Lerner thing, thanks for the responses. I agree. Issa would be a fool to give her immunity. If he did, in the end, nobody would be punished.

He should respond to the letter with a criminal contempt charge based on ignoring a subpoena.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:03 AM (T2V/1)

166

Whether it's the Alutes in Alaska, federal judges in Texas, or bills re-affirming the right of association, perhaps we should take a page out of Andrew Jackson's playbook.

They have made their ruling, now let us see them enforce it.

I pray that Texas will find ways to further get off the federal teat of easy money. This will enable us to tell them to go pound sand next time they seek to lord over us. And I also pray that other states will endeavor to do the same.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at February 27, 2014 04:04 AM (LJpVo)

167 133 -

Good point. Wait until the government decides YOU are discriminating against that nice bearded guy, and his tend covered bride by not patronizing his business.

How dare you.

Religious freedom and all, dictates that you buy stuff from him, or you're a racist bigot what deserves to be in chains.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 04:04 AM (BeSEI)

168 The mammoth thing. I saw that movie. It does not end well.

Posted by: blaster at February 27, 2014 04:04 AM (22ODj)

169 163 I feel a whole lot better doing it for mega bucks.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 08:02 AM (t3UFN)

In this day and age better have some good liability insurance.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:05 AM (T2V/1)

170 People have a right to be stupid.
Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM

And we have plenty of that here in MA (so what's new?), as Boston's mayor, Martin J Walsh, Irish Democrat (so what's new?) says he wants to march in the St Patrick's Day parade, but won't unless they allow Teh Gheys to march (strut? Sashay? Prance?) in the parade, too.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 04:05 AM (ff7/5)

171 (despite the fact I have made God cry by being too ugly to be lovable and too stupid to get knocked up without a husband...eh) I realize that you are being sarcastic but still... Heather you are lovable because God loves you all the time and because God looks on the heart not on the outward appearance (and I somehow doubt you're ugly anyway but some men don't have good taste ;^) If you didn't get knocked up without a husband that is a wise choice. And as far as people loving you...we'll people do here and I would thin it your outside life you have a number of people whom you love and love you back. Two of the most lovable people I have known were people without husbands and children. One sent out cards for all kinds of occassions I called it "her monsirty of little notes (She just died at 89 and the place was packed) she was very smart and very caring. Another person knit blankets for people undergoing cancer treatments and helps make costumes for the church productions. She has a pretty high position in her company and is a smart accomplised woman. So are you. Please take a minute, HR and think of three people who love and like you. :^) Some of the most influential people in history were never married and never had kids.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2014 04:05 AM (XyM/Y)

172 168 -

Darnit. Tent covered bride.

Way to ruin your own visual image, Burt. If that is your real name.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 04:05 AM (BeSEI)

173 Its just incredible how the media and even some fools on our own side have twisted the AZ law into something not even close to what it really is.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 04:05 AM (bxpf3)

174 The group calls itself Â“concerned Asian, Black, Latin@, Native, Undocumented, Queer, and Differently-Abled students.Â”

Its impressively long list of demands includes (but is certainly not limited to):

- Enrollment quotas for black and Latino students of Â“at least 10 percent eachÂ”
- An outright ban on the use of the terms Â“illegal aliens, illegal immigrantsÂ” and other terms the students donÂ’t like
- A policy against hate speech that strongly punishes offenders
- Increased enrollment, financial aid and legal help for illegal aliens
- Gender-neutral bathrooms in every campus building
- Queer studies coursework in every department
- Compulsory cultural sensitivity training for professors
- Mandatory coursework on the theme of social justice
- Use of the preferred gender pronouns for all students and staff
- Conversion of all ethic studies programs into free-standing departments
- A rule making The Dartmouth Review, the schoolÂ’s conservative paper, stop using the word Â“DartmouthÂ” in its name if it ever uses the word Â“IndianÂ” again

The shadowy group of insistent students said in its menacing email that the goal of its multitude of demands is to end the Â“institutional violenceÂ” caused by Â“racism, classism, sexism, heterosexism, and ableism.Â”

... They forgot to ask that the letter "D" be stricken from the English language

Posted by: King Leonidas at February 27, 2014 04:06 AM (e8kgV)

175 In this day and age better have some good liability insurance. Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 08:05 AM (T2V/1) I got tons

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:06 AM (t3UFN)

176 What's happening here is the Gay-Stapo (I love that term) is using government to win an argument. It's a crass application of the logical fallacy of an Appeal to Authority: "hey, the government says you MUST do this, so you will, and because of that you're wrong in your beliefs." And the fact that they are misusing government to this end is the real obscenity in all of this. Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (eytER) Excellent.

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 04:06 AM (MhA4j)

177 I feel a whole lot better doing it for mega bucks.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 08:02 AM (t3UFN)

And those rectals must be disconcerting to them.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2014 04:06 AM (QFxY5)

178 Will pronunciation be taken into account? What if they use the word with an "a" at the end? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 07:50 AM (DmNpO)

Penalty. Number 68, Offense. Incorrect inflection on the "N" word. Fifteen yards, Repeat second down!

Posted by: Ed Hochuli [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 27, 2014 04:07 AM (JpC1K)

179
Just because Jan Brewer did good thing and vetoed #AZ1062 doesn't mean she's not still a vicious anti-gay, anti-immigrant extremist
Sally Kohn (@sallykohn)

Bu -- bu -- if we give up, they're supposed to love us? Wha happen?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2014 04:07 AM (kdS6q)

180 163 I wrote this yesterday. When I get a patient I dislike or don't really want to treat, I raise my fee considerably. I call it the PIA ( Pain In the Ass) fee. If they choose to find someone cheaper so be it, if they choose to have me treat them, I feel a whole lot better doing it for mega bucks. Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 08:02 AM (t3UFN) Just use a slightly duller drill at a slightly slower speed in a slightly more sensitive areaÂ… "Is it safe?????"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:08 AM (olDqf)

181 He should respond to the letter with a criminal contempt charge based on ignoring a subpoena.
Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM

That's only one step below a full-on Twitter RampageÂ©, Vic. D'you think Issa wants to escalate that much?

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 04:08 AM (ff7/5)

182 When you think of people who like you HeatherRadish please include a small virtual spot for me.

I like the cut of your jib and wish you well.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 27, 2014 04:08 AM (IVgIK)

183 Its just incredible how the media and even some fools on our own side have twisted the AZ law into something not even close to what it really is. Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 08:05 AM (bxpf3)

Lying is the only way libs have ever been able to impact public opinion.

But it's all good, because they're our moral betters.

/ sarc

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 27, 2014 04:08 AM (JpC1K)

184 180 Bu -- bu -- if we give up, they're supposed to love us? Wha happen?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2014 08:07 AM (kdS6q)

That is one of those things that continually jerks my chain about to go-along to get-along Republicans who fear the MFM.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:08 AM (T2V/1)

185 He should respond to the letter with a criminal contempt charge based on ignoring a subpoena.

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM (T2V/1)

You really want to open the Boehner floodgates, no?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 04:09 AM (FQEMb)

186 142 -

Yup, that's the part people like to leave out of the equation.

Jesus turned to the harlot and said: "your sins are forgiven. NOW DON'T DO IT AGAIN!"

No free passes, people.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 04:09 AM (BeSEI)

187 182 That's only one step below a full-on Twitter RampageÃ¯Â¿Â½, Vic. D'you think Issa wants to escalate that much?

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 08:08 AM (ff7/5)

LOL, good one

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:09 AM (T2V/1)

188 174 Its just incredible how the media and even some fools on our own side have twisted the AZ law into something not even close to what it really is. Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 08:05 AM (bxpf3) i'm having my friends over tonight....dear God the timing couldn't be worse.....their comments over the last week of "how ashamed they are to being living here"....wtf? i won't be able to drink tonight...not a drop....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at February 27, 2014 04:09 AM (u8GsB)

189 #172 meant "Ministry of little notes"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2014 04:09 AM (XyM/Y)

190 this all you asshole opponents of AZ. SC has a law similar to the one AZ proposed and it has been on the books for 15 years. AND there are 17 other States with similar laws! http://tinyurl.com/pud4s8x Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 06:52 AM (T2V/1) Jan Brewer is a target by the left. She stood up to obozo, and won.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 04:10 AM (IXrOn)

191 BTW, is a full on Twitter charge more aggressive than a strongly worded letter?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:10 AM (T2V/1)

192 192 BTW, is a full on Twitter charge more aggressive than a strongly worded letter? Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 08:10 AM (T2V/1) I think a strongly worded letter should be hand deliveredÂ… on a flaming spear.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:11 AM (olDqf)

193 I like the Anchoress but she misses the point. Some early Christians choice martyrdom over the formality of offering incense to the Emperor as deity. Some just bowed and did it to survive. Also, about forced participation in gay weddings, it turns out that gay marriage was about gays wanting the right to be Bridezillas.

Posted by: votermom at February 27, 2014 04:11 AM (v44Np)

194 Liars. Jesus clearly was all like, "harlot I forgive you of your sins, now let me bake you a, 'Hey Baby, Wanna Fuck?' cake!"

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 04:11 AM (bxpf3)

195 A Federal asshole has struck down the TX ban on gay marriage. Perhaps Texas should pass a law saying they strike down federal judges opinions and no longer consider them valid. It's coming to that people. http://tinyurl.com/q9ztbey Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 06:53 AM (T2V/1) Or has our idiot morning TV newsreader referred to it, he ruled on marriage being a "human right." Morons.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at February 27, 2014 04:11 AM (nj9sX)

196 Good Morning, I'm glad you're back Vic. J.J. I think Boehner knows things about events in Benghazi & the SCOAMF has something on him & that is why he refuses to appoint special, independent prosecutor for IRS & Benghazi. We want one, but Johnny refuses to appoint one. I could be wrong, but I think conservatives in the House want one too. I would enjoy seeing some have their lives ruined like Scooter Libby was & he didn't spill the beans on Plame, it was Armitage, but that SOB Powell refused to speak up when given the chance by GWB.

Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 04:11 AM (z4WKX)

197 171 People have a right to be stupid. Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM And we have plenty of that here in MA (so what's new?), as Boston's mayor, Martin J Walsh, Irish Democrat (so what's new?) says he wants to march in the St Patrick's Day parade, but won't unless they allow Teh Gheys to march (strut? Sashay? Prance?) in the parade, too. Posted by: MrScribbler at February 27, 2014 08:05 AM (ff7/5) As if Gays and whoever else wants to join in haven't been marching in the parade all along with the crowd of enthusiasts. Next? Will only Gays of Irish descent be allowed in that parade? Will they hold posters calling St. Patrick gay?

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 04:12 AM (MhA4j)

198 Hey Nevergiveup- In the trades we call that the "F" You Bid.

I have never done that but believe I will the next time a particular client calls. So far that one has been a one sided business relationship with to much grief.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 27, 2014 04:12 AM (IVgIK)

199 Shapiro's piece over at breibart that Vic linked is a really good read.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 04:12 AM (IXrOn)

200 197 Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 08:11 AM (z4WKX) I think the GOP is in league with the Democrats. Two sides of the same rotten statist coin. Meh, that's just me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:13 AM (olDqf)

201 I think now all we would need is about 55.

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 08:00 AM (T2V/1)

No, the number is at least 70 because idiots like McConnell (who will probably still be there) are sure to revert to the "old" rules in a spirit of bipartisan adherence to the established rules of the Senate.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 27, 2014 04:13 AM (o3MSL)

202 187 Burt. I frequently remind people of this since it is so conveniently overlooked.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 27, 2014 04:13 AM (vVOWk)

203 Morn inn' horde, 4th Monday of the week.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 27, 2014 04:13 AM (HVff2)

204 i won't be able to drink tonight...not a drop....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at February 27, 2014 08:09 AM (u8GsB)

Or....drink as much as you want, say what you think, destroy them with logic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2014 04:13 AM (QFxY5)

205 The description of the actions of the well-trained black-uniformed armed men in the Crimean city of Simferopol bring forth memories of that line in the Butch Cassidy movie, "who ARE those guys?"

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 27, 2014 04:14 AM (tmFlQ)

206 Issa won't get anywhere until he orders the Seargent at Arms of the House to prepare a room in the basement for long term "guests".

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 04:14 AM (4JkHl)

207 oh phoenixgirl, I am so sorry. Humanity sucks. Can you quickly come down with west nile virus?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 04:14 AM (bxpf3)

208 202 No, the number is at least 70 because idiots like McConnell (who will probably still be there) are sure to revert to the "old" rules in a spirit of bipartisan adherence to the established rules of the Senate.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 27, 2014 08:13 AM (o3MSL)

Probably right. Republicans NEVER believe in tit-for-tat, otherwise known as fair play.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:14 AM (T2V/1)

209 In the trades we call that the "F" You Bid. I have never done that but believe I will the next time a particular client calls. So far that one has been a one sided business relationship with to much grief. Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 27, 2014 08:12 AM (IVgIK) the other thing I have found over the years is the ones that ask for a break are the first ones to fuck you.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:14 AM (t3UFN)

210 Am I wrong to hope for tax reform that has no tax credits and no deductions at all? I just want a flat rate with a lowered marginal rate. If you really want to "get the money out of politics," that would be a good start. The impulse to control behavior through the tax code is what brought us here to begin with.

Posted by: no good deed at February 27, 2014 04:16 AM (vBhbc)

211 I read the Anchoress article Gab mentions and it misses the point as completely as the MSM, or McCain, or Romney, or the legislators that cannot explain a Bill they wrote. Is it even arguable that the primary founding impulse for this country was for religious freedom? So now we have a pop-culture-religion that if you do not obey this NEW religion you will be made to suffer as it was threatened to Arizona.

It is not as if the Bill was to ban homosexuals from getting a fucking cake baked, it was to protect people with a religious belief to NOT be forced to violate their belief for the sake of secular humanism or whatever flavor of religion or religious practice is now in vogue. Today it is homosexuality, tomorrow chucking you kids into the volcano or whatever twerking disgust the popular culture will endorse.

The homosexuals could get their damn cake made probably in 90% of bake shops but they now go out of their way to find some mom and pop outfit that is following their religion to force them to do something that those people consider a violation of their faith. So it is not about being served, but it is now abundantly clear this is about forcing all segments of society, even the last holdouts to not only serve you, but to roundly applaud your choices.   This is fascism and tyranny undisguised.

What happened in Arizona yesterday is a clear signal that we have ceased to be a nation that even considers a Christian morality in our makeup, or that we can freely practice a faith that does no harm to others, but any expression that does not kiss the ass of popular morality must be stamped out and excluded from any public expression.

This is the exact opposite of freedom or religion, this is now a State ministered and approved religion and woe to any that disagree. We do not have to bow to Islam, we are inventing our own fascistic-religious system.   No wonder the Left and popular culture find common cause with Islam.

No wonder a President raised in the vanguard of such thinking has no condemnation for Iran, no backing of protestors in Venezuela, ignored the attempted revolution in Iran, and backed a Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt, all the while ignoring the next movement in Egypt to overthrow this new despot with the largest political protests in history.

Good luck to the Ukrainians being shot to death for freedom's sake you will get no help from America, as we are busy making sure homosexuals do not get hurt feelings, and nobody looks with disapproval on anyone...well except Christians.

Posted by: Jehu at February 27, 2014 04:16 AM (i3PtB)

212 "I think a strongly worded letter should be hand deliveredÂ… on a flaming spear." Posted by: J.J. Sefton When "flame wars" move from virtual to literal.

Posted by: mindful webworker the idiot at February 27, 2014 04:16 AM (crLRi)

213 @177. Yes, excellent. But lets not forget the media. They push this crap while they scream less than truthful headlines.

Posted by: Case at February 27, 2014 04:16 AM (VctSv)

214 I think the gays could have handled this better. Any gay-friendly shop they could spray paint the windows with a small rainbow. Those not-so-friendly they could paint some sort of symbol in bright colors -- like yellow and black perhaps. Let the citizens know that they should not frequent the establishment.

Posted by: First Godwin of the thread? [/i] at February 27, 2014 04:16 AM (CnA98)

215 Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 08:11 AM (z4WKX)

My considered political advice to Republican office holders and candidates is to take cover, support minimalist positions on everything from the beginning, reach across the isle in advance, and not make waves because you might adversely impact the political consulting business model I have so carefully crafted.

BUSH/CHRISTIE 2016!

Posted by: Karl Rover at February 27, 2014 04:17 AM (o3MSL)

216 Sergeants everywhere would kick my ass for that spelling mistake.

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 04:17 AM (4JkHl)

217 208 oh phoenixgirl, I am so sorry. Humanity sucks. Can you quickly come down with west nile virus? Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 08:14 AM (bxpf3) Buddy of mine in Scottsdale had it a few years ago and it was undiagnosed. Took him quite a while to get over it once it was identified but he did.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:17 AM (olDqf)

218 178 I feel a whole lot better doing it for mega bucks. Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 08:02 AM (t3UFN) And those rectals must be disconcerting to them..... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2014 08:06 AM (QFxY5) Wait...I thought Nevergiveup was a dentist?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 27, 2014 04:18 AM (EJ/Tn)

219 No, the number is at least 70 because idiots like McConnell (who will probably still be there) are sure to revert to the "old" rules in a spirit of bipartisan adherence to the established rules of the Senate.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 27, 2014 08:13 AM (o3MSL)

I think Levin said that McConnell has already stated he would go back to the old filibuster rules if the Repubs take control after the midterms; but I can't find a link for it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 04:18 AM (FQEMb)

220 213 "I think a strongly worded letter should be hand deliveredÂ… on a flaming spear." Posted by: J.J. Sefton When "flame wars" move from virtual to literal. Posted by: mindful webworker the idiot at February 27, 2014 08:16 AM (crLRi) Exactly!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:18 AM (olDqf)

221 211 Am I wrong to hope for tax reform that has no tax credits and no deductions at all? I just want a flat rate with a lowered marginal rate. If you really want to "get the money out of politics," that would be a good start. The impulse to control behavior through the tax code is what brought us here to begin with.

Posted by: no good deed at February 27, 2014 08:16 AM (vBhbc)

That will come after the great burning except that Lord Humongous's flat rate will be 75%, your best daughter, and all your gasoline.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:18 AM (T2V/1)

222 I do think we would do well to remember that, in the current gay-cake situation that this is not so much a crisis constructed by the gay community but by the leftist-gay community. Any gay person of reason and intellect does not want to force someone to commit a crime of conscience. This is an issue being pushed by the left. It is being shoved down our throats by the real enemy; radical progressives.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 04:18 AM (DmNpO)

223 Joe Scarborough is in SC campaigning for the 2016 primaries. Question is, which Party will he campaign for? But seriously, this just another effort to flood the primary field to block good candidates? http://tinyurl.com/m8toy2m Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 06:59 AM (T2V/1) Yeah, I don't get this, either. Does this mean he quits that dolt morning show? I really think he's trying to get the morning schmo ratings up, is all. He doesn't have a prayer. It would take a major payoff/bribe if it were to tilt the votes.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 04:18 AM (IXrOn)

224 210- True Dat.

But contractors are all crooked donchaknow.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 27, 2014 04:18 AM (IVgIK)

225 219 Wait...I thought Nevergiveup was a dentist? Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 27, 2014 08:18 AM (EJ/Tn) He is. He just has a backwards approach to his practice...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:19 AM (olDqf)

226 Or has our idiot morning TV newsreader referred to it, he ruled on marriage being a "human right." Morons. Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at February 27, 2014 08:11 AM (nj9sX)

Ever notice that when someone gives you the "human right" or "civil right" bullshit dodge that they never bother to tell you where the "rights" come from?

Heads. Exploding.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 27, 2014 04:19 AM (JpC1K)

227 Am I wrong to hope for tax reform that has no tax credits and no deductions at all? I just want a flat rate with a lowered marginal rate. If you really want to "get the money out of politics," that would be a good start. The impulse to control behavior through the tax code is what brought us here to begin with. **** Ahem. ALEC ‏@ALEC_states 15h Americans spend $168 billion every year to file their income #tax returns http://ow.ly/u2gQw #taxreform #tcot #tlot

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 04:19 AM (DmNpO)

228 Aleut village has been fighting for 30 years to build an 11 mile gravel road to a town with an airport so they can fly people who need emergency medical treatment to Anchorage. The Obamanites shot it down citing need to protect wild life. http://tinyurl.com/n9cf97y Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 06:54 AM (T2V/1) If I was the next President, I would order the immediate construction of a 4 lane freeway from there to Anchorage. I would also require that the dead carcasses of some of the local wildlife be ground up and mixed in with the asphalt.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at February 27, 2014 04:19 AM (nj9sX)

229 Wait...I thought Nevergiveup was a dentist? Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 27, 2014 08:18 AM (EJ/Tn) I am. he was just joking

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:19 AM (t3UFN)

230 Seriously where are the so called tolerant gay groups condemning the gay couples suing businesses into closure?

Posted by: votermom at February 27, 2014 04:19 AM (s6H24)

231 I like the cut of your jib and wish you well.

Ditto. I know you're a former cheesehead, and as a current cheesehead, I wish you well and find it disheartening for you to talk about yourself the way you do.

Posted by: GMan at February 27, 2014 04:19 AM (sxq57)

232 well big patient just walked in- begone for a while

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:20 AM (t3UFN)

233 Hey, NGU. New ad campaign for you: Root canals from behind! Get 'em while they're hot!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:20 AM (olDqf)

234 He is. He just has a backwards approach to his practice... Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 08:19 AM (olDqf)

Studies have shown that extracting teeth through the anal cavity causes less bleeding and improves recovery times from oral surgery.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 27, 2014 04:20 AM (JpC1K)

235 233 well big patient just walked in- begone for a while Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 08:20 AM (t3UFN) "Big" how?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:20 AM (olDqf)

236 Interesting article on France is a harbinger of the Obama America to come http://bit.ly/1hW1c33 Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 06:59 AM (SMd3b) The problem is, where to go?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 04:21 AM (IXrOn)

237 Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 27, 2014 08:20 AM (JpC1K)

Sort of a Plan B approach to dentistry?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 27, 2014 04:21 AM (o3MSL)

238 231 Seriously where are the so called tolerant gay groups condemning the gay couples suing businesses into closure? Posted by: votermom at February 27, 2014 08:19 AM (s6H24) Tolerant gays are almost in the same league as "moderate" Muslims.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:21 AM (olDqf)

239 "Big" how? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 08:20 AM (olDqf)

The prep enema comes in a 55-gallon drum.

Jus' sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 27, 2014 04:21 AM (JpC1K)

240 Yep, we do the same with our business. You have an Obama sticker on your car, Coexist, a Dem yard sign or admit to being a liberal? Well, your price just went up at least 50%, usually double. Your beliefs want to basically hurt our business...we will hurt you back right in the wallet.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 04:21 AM (4+PCd)

241 220 I think Levin said that McConnell has already stated he would go back to the old filibuster rules if the Repubs take control after the midterms; but I can't find a link for it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 08:18 AM (FQEMb)

Figures, he has already given up in advance. Can't even wait to take the Senate.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:22 AM (T2V/1)

242 My name is Ben Shapiro. I'm an alumnus of this university I'm also a local talk show host on 870 [AM] in the morning, did not know this

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 04:23 AM (IXrOn)

243 90%+ of gays in America vote and support the hard left. Just reality.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 04:23 AM (ZPrif)

244 "Seriously where are the so called tolerant gay groups condemning the gay couples suing businesses into closure?" Posted by: votermom Hiding in the closet with us.

Posted by: peaceful Muslims and patriotic Democrats at February 27, 2014 04:23 AM (crLRi)

245 >>>Any gay person of reason and intellect does not want to force someone to commit a crime of conscience.

Does that include Gabe? He seems to be for the compelling of services against one's conscience.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 27, 2014 04:23 AM (IVgIK)

246 Re gay cakes. I agree with the guy at Red State who said Jesus would totally serve gay customers everyday but would not bake for an actual gay wedding. I think Acts and the NT epistles support that. I may not approve of homosexuality (or lots of other things), but gays are human beings who are also made in God's image, just like the rest of us, and should not be singled out for mistreatment. But asking me, as a Christian to participate in something my faith and conscience objects to is going too far. Gaystapo tactics do not help matters AT ALL. it is obvious that they are looking to make the lives if Christians and the church hell. The Gaystapo types, that is.

Posted by: Chique at February 27, 2014 04:23 AM (r+7wo)

247 Seriously where are the so called tolerant gay groups condemning the gay couples suing businesses into closure? *** You might be surprised, but there have been individuals on twitter who have a sense of perspective.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 04:23 AM (DmNpO)

248 I want to see James O'Keefe dress as an Iranian imam, walk into a gay bakery and demand a cake that has a Tonka construction with a man being lynched from it. The frosting on the side then has to say "I KEEEEL YOU, PAJAMA BOY!!!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:23 AM (olDqf)

249
is not so much a crisis constructed by the gay community but by the leftist-gay community.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

Is there any evidence for that at all? That is, an example of a gay commenter posting somewhere today objecting to Brewer overturning the unanimous Republican vote of her legislature?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2014 04:24 AM (kdS6q)

250 Does that include Gabe? He seems to be for the compelling of services against one's conscience. *** If so, then I would say he has substituted emotion and self-interest over reason.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 04:24 AM (DmNpO)

251 The Anchoress writes words for a living. How would she feel if a homosexual couple came to her office and demanded she write the vows for their gay wedding ceremony?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 27, 2014 04:25 AM (oMKp3)

252 196 A Federal asshole has struck down the TX ban on gay marriage. Perhaps Texas should pass a law saying they strike down federal judges opinions and no longer consider them valid. It's coming to that people. http://tinyurl.com/q9ztbey Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 06:53 AM (T2V/1) Despite the general understanding we all "enjoy" today, US leadership HAVE done just that. I posted it here in a comment the other week, but momentarily can't recall which POTUS vetoed a SCOTUS interpretive decision of "constitutionality" reasoning that each branch of government, Chief Executive and also Congress alongside the Judicial, has the constitutional onus to determine what is constitutional.

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 04:25 AM (MhA4j)

253 Ben Shapiro of BB crashes a UCLA hearing and spanks them over Jew Hatred. http://tinyurl.com/psulka6 Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 07:00 AM (T2V/1) One man, made a difference.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 27, 2014 04:25 AM (IXrOn)

254 240 The prep enema comes in a 55-gallon drum. Jus' sayin' Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 27, 2014 08:21 AM (JpC1K) When you need a 55 gallon prep enema for a teeth cleaning, then you know that Obamacare is a success.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:26 AM (olDqf)

255 These rulings generate all sorts of scams. There are local anti discrimination ordinances. Bottom feeding lawyers use these to sue people. Remember the guy who had a tiny tiny apt to let and said in an ad that it was ideal for a single person? Lawyers scan ads looking for this shit and then sued him for discrimination against families. He was forced to go to some hearing that rubber stamped a finding of discrimination and he was forced to attend classes, pay for them, pay for the hearing costs, and pay for the lawyers fees and pay a fine. Total bullshit.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 27, 2014 04:26 AM (6Nj7A)

256 Holy Mackerel. Somebody should check on Guy Benson and make sure he gets a few tequila shots or something. That was an epic rebuttal and where the heck is the media on this?

Posted by: Marcus T at February 27, 2014 04:26 AM (GGCsk)

257 Seriously where are the so called tolerant gay groups condemning the gay couples suing businesses into closure?

Posted by: votermom at February 27, 2014 08:19 AM (s6H24)

Tammy Bruce and some of the individual homo Morons here are good voices for conservative values but groups like GOProud are chock fulla libs.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 04:26 AM (FQEMb)

258 If they were Luddites, they would have asked that the letter "#" be stricken from common usage

Posted by: King Leonidas at February 27, 2014 04:26 AM (e8kgV)

259 258 Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 08:26 AM (FQEMb) I love Tammy Bruce. Maybe if I wore a wig and falsies and tucked my junk between my legsÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:27 AM (olDqf)

260 Old and busted: freedom of religion New hotness: freedom of buttfucking.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 04:27 AM (ee9LE)

261 Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi 26s Ukraine Latest: ✓Parliament approves new PM ✓Gunmen seize offices in Crimea ✓Yanukovych under Russian protection http://apne.ws/N6VWvV

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 04:28 AM (ZPrif)

262 252 The Anchoress writes words for a living. How would she feel if a homosexual couple came to her office and demanded she write the vows for their gay wedding ceremony?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 27, 2014 08:25 AM (oMKp3)

....AND demanded that she come to the wedding and read the words. And sued her into oblivion and bankruptcy if she refused.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:28 AM (T2V/1)

263 We have been told here that these problems with common core are caused by poor State implementation. Read this article and find out why that is not true. This was originally a bill to remove common core from SC schools or to seriously challenge the way it is implemented. http://tinyurl.com/pb5dzw4 Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 07:00 AM (T2V/1) If SC doesn't know if they can do it, that's an SC problem. This isn't something new. WE have known about it for over 3 years. We are in the other coalition, PARCC, and have been looking at the technology portion for over 2 years now. We have spent extensive time planning and testing. This spring, we will be engaged in a field test involving about 10% of the students in the state to validate the testing mechanisms, We are currently going through a final test and first run-through of a practice version of the test to validate the infrastructure. Explain to me again how this has anything to do with the actual Common Core.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at February 27, 2014 04:28 AM (nj9sX)

264 Is there any evidence for that at all? That is, an example of a gay commenter posting somewhere today objecting to Brewer overturning the unanimous Republican vote of her legislature? *** Yes. Bruce Carroll, for one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 04:28 AM (DmNpO)

265 "Studies have shown that extracting teeth through the anal cavity causes less bleeding and improves recovery times from oral surgery." Posted by: Sean Bannion And thanks to modern anasthetics, it's completely painless... after the needle's initial prick....

Posted by: mindful webworker the idiot at February 27, 2014 04:29 AM (crLRi)

266 I wonder if the LA Times will ever release Khalidi video, maybe if SCOAMF pisses them off, but I doubt he could do anything unless he sicked IRS or started investigation on a "reporter" from it as they did to James Rosen @ FNC. The JEF is presently in office & there is nothing we can do to remove him because it would be racist. I had a email from a friend that showed his ID from Columbia with name of Barry Soerto? Might have last name misspelled, sorry, & it said he was Foreign Exchange Student.

Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 04:29 AM (z4WKX)

267 I used to read the Anchoress and comment there occasionally. I stopped a couple of years ago when a commenter over there pointed out some facts not previously known to Ms. Scalia concerning an article she wrote, and she went totally berserk on that commenter.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 27, 2014 04:29 AM (oMKp3)

268 I read the Anchoress post, but there's not much there. She just wants to make sure that everyone knows that everyone is an extremist except maybe people who don't say anything. The fact is that every time we hear that there is no slippery slope, there's a Gay Mafia group standing right behind us to shove us down even further. DADT repeal, not enough, States recognizing SSM, not enough, kids taught how to engage in homosexual practices, not enough. They consider anyone not draped in a rainbow flag to be "anti-Civil Rights" and they mean to convert or jail us.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 04:29 AM (ZshNr)

269 Well, I hope that Westboro Baptist Church sees the revenue potential in forcing gay bakers/printers/etc to serve them.

Posted by: --- at February 27, 2014 04:30 AM (MMC8r)

270 622 votermom, I do have a thermometer, and it tells me the oven is possessed. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 11:04 PM (Pfvig) - - I follow a bunch of them and appreciate them ( like smallggay - he's awesome) but what I don't see are groups / organizations saying anything. Only some right- leaning gays are speaking up, and only as individuals.

Posted by: votermom at February 27, 2014 04:30 AM (++3bt)

271 Ok Niedermeyer and that would be understandably human but you asserted that reasonable people who are gay would do the opposite.

I think most here would see Gabe as reasonable so doesn't that puncture your argument a bit?

It just seems that the majority of gays see this as a new civil rights struggle which means anyone who disagrees is Bull Conor.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 27, 2014 04:30 AM (IVgIK)

272 Do I think it is silly to refuse to bake a cake because it is being
purchased for a gay wedding? Yes, I think that is silly. I don't believe
selling that cake is a sin. But that is not my call to make. And it
certainly is not the gov't's call to make.

If you've ever been a part of a wedding, you know that it's not like you're buying a cake off the shelf and setting it up yourself.

You're actually having the baker participate in the wedding by having to be there, set up the cake, make sure nothing goes wrong, etc...

So, yeah, not "just baking a cake."

Posted by: GMan at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (sxq57)

Fair enough. But my point remains - it is not for me or the gov't to decide whether or not the baker should do it.

And, to whoever asked, yes I meant Sikhs not Sheiks. Typing fast and not reviewing before posting and all that.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 27, 2014 04:30 AM (sOx93)

273 It's silly to pretend the overwhelming majority of gays in America don't support these aggressive tactics and vicious anti-Christian propaganda. A few individuals who object does not refute that.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 04:31 AM (ZPrif)

274 ....AND demanded that she come to the wedding and read the words. And sued her into oblivion and bankruptcy if she refused.

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 08:28 AM (T2V/1)

==================

Very good addendum, Vic.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 27, 2014 04:31 AM (oMKp3)

275 264 Explain to me again how this has anything to do with the actual Common Core.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at February 27, 2014 08:28 AM (nj9sX)

Did you miss the part where the school official said that if it did not conform to federal guidelines for CC testing they would lose federal funding?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:31 AM (T2V/1)

276 Those right-wing religious extremist groups even object to us throwing them to the lions in the Colloseum. I mean, by Jupiter, if they'd at least try to be tolerant.

Posted by: Nero at February 27, 2014 04:32 AM (ee9LE)

277 Maybe Westboro could demand Gabe defend them in court.

Posted by: --- at February 27, 2014 04:33 AM (MMC8r)

278 Well, I hope that Westboro Baptist Church sees the revenue potential in forcing gay bakers/printers/etc to serve them.

That would be fantastic. In a lot of ways those people are scum, but man it would be delicious to see that happen.

Posted by: GMan at February 27, 2014 04:34 AM (sxq57)

279 Ok Niedermeyer and that would be understandably human but you asserted that reasonable people who are gay would do the opposite. I think most here would see Gabe as reasonable so doesn't that puncture your argument a bit? It just seems that the majority of gays see this as a new civil rights struggle which means anyone who disagrees is Bull Conor. *** I also stated that, in this instance, he may have substituted emotion and self-interest for reason. We all do it at times.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 04:35 AM (DmNpO)

280 Just for the record-a few very important single people: Jesus Christ St Paul - Apostle of Christ Joan of Arc - as a young peasant girl played key role in awakening the Dauphin of France, Charles, in leading fight back against occupying English army. Later burnt at stake for 'heresy. / Mother Teresa - Nun who took vows of chastity and poverty, devoting her life to the service of the poor. Queen Elizabeth I - Famous virgin queen of England. Queen Elizabeth said: "It would please me best if, at the last, a marble stone shall record that this Queen having lived such and such a time, lived and died a virgin. " During her life she was frequently pressured into marriage so she could produce a heir. To Parliament she said: "I have already joined myself in marriage to a husband, namely the kingdom of England." Susan B. Anthony (1820-1906) A prominent American civil rights lawyer who played a leading role in advocating for universal suffrage and votes for women. Emily Dickinson - Poet who lived much of her life in seclusion. Sir Isaac Newton - Although he got engaged in his teens, the relationship fell through, Newton was more interested in science and his scientific investigations coming up with the famous three laws of physics. George Frederic Handel - Great composer who created famous pieces such as Messiah (HWV 56) On composing the Hallelujah Chorus, Handel wrote "Whether I was in my body or out of my body as I wrote it, I know not. God knows." When King George II asked why he wasnÂ’t married, he simply responded with: Â“I have no time for anything but music.Â” Nikola Tesla - Nikola Tesla was a unique inventor who threw himself into discovering new advances in electronics and science. He had no interest in marriage and saw sex as a distraction from his life's purpose. A famous actress of the time, Sarah Bernhardt, tried to attract him, but, he merely saw her as a distraction. When asked about marriage, he replied: Â“I do not think you can name many great inventions that have been made by married men.Â” Swami Vivekananda. Spiritual teacher and important figure in Indian renaissance of late nineteenth century. A great believer in the virtues of celibacy. "If one wastes the most potent forces of oneÂ’s being, one cannot become spiritual. All history teaches us that the great seers of all ages were either monks and ascetics or those who had given up married life; only the pure in life can see God."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2014 04:35 AM (XyM/Y)

281 271 OFFS the kindle pasted something from last night. I was trying to reply to NDH It's plotting to get me in tbe barrel

Posted by: votermom at February 27, 2014 04:36 AM (VvXRf)

282 There's a society thermometer for you, the Westboro boys don't seem quite as crazy as they did.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 04:36 AM (ee9LE)

283 A diff topic other than gay gay gay.

How about the link where Boner has gone to Maxine Waters to get votes to pass the Senate Flood Insurance Bill and defy conservatives, including the committee chair?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:39 AM (T2V/1)

284
Bruce Carroll, for one.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

That is one. His post on it:

http://tinyurl.com/k5d9few

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2014 04:39 AM (kdS6q)

285 It's plotting to get me in tbe barrel Posted by: votermom at February 27, 2014 08:36 AM (VvXRf)

C'mon! I'm not that bad!

Posted by: The Barrel [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 27, 2014 04:39 AM (MPIX5)

286 I love Tammy Bruce. Maybe if I wore a wig and falsies and tucked my junk between my legsÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 08:27 AM (olDqf)

Tammy may be a daughter of Sappho but she still admits an aesthetic appreciation for the masculine form, Allen West for example. I think she's like Camille Paglia in that regard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 04:39 AM (FQEMb)

287 Just for the record-a few very important single people: - I don't know. They don't seem as fun as my idea of swinging singles.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 04:39 AM (ee9LE)

288 I feel bad for the cake bakers. I feel even badder for the wedding photographers. They typically have to spend the entire day at the wedding, doing pre-shots of the bride(?) and groom getting dressed, to the ceremony itself, to the reception with all the dancing and the kissing and the kissing and the ...... For a good 8 hours or so.

Talk about being asked to participate.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 27, 2014 04:40 AM (oMKp3)

289 285 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2014 08:39 AM (kdS6q)

LOL, I see he quoted Ace on that.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:41 AM (T2V/1)

290 (Because you probably missed it on the ONT....) Â«Â« When I said state attorney generals didn't have to follow the law, I didn't mean they could start enforcing immigration and ignoring Obamacare enforcement. Why do rayciss right wing hatemongers always twist everything? Posted by: Judge Dredd Holder Â»Â»

Posted by: mindful webworker the idiot at February 27, 2014 04:41 AM (WQhht)

291 Unemployment claims up 14000 must be the weather

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 27, 2014 04:42 AM (R8hU8)

292 How about the link where Boner has gone to Maxine Waters to get votes to pass the Senate Flood Insurance Bill and defy conservatives, including the committee chair?

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 08:39 AM (T2V/1)

Every time Weepy John and that other weasel, Cantor, talk about forming coalitions it's usually with a majority of the donks. Fine Repuke leadership imo.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 04:42 AM (FQEMb)

293
SCOAMT likely to take a firm stand on the Ukraine situation by sternly warning Russia that he is monitoring the situation. Sternly monitoring. In the stearnest possible way. Seriously stern... in his monitoring... of the situation.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 27, 2014 04:43 AM (BZAd3)

294 293 Every time Weepy John and that other weasel, Cantor, talk about forming coalitions it's usually with a majority of the donks. Fine Repuke leadership imo.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 08:42 AM (FQEMb)

But Maxine Waters!!!! One of the worst of the worst.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 04:43 AM (T2V/1)

295 292 Unemployment claims up 14000
must be the weather

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 27, 2014 08:42 AM (R8hU

News we have come to expect, yet is somehow always unexpected.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 27, 2014 04:44 AM (BZAd3)

296 That is one. His post on it: http://tinyurl.com/k5d9few *** And even Gabe is arguing, via twitter, that SB1062 was not necessary because Arizona law does not allow for a baker to be sued based upon his/her failure to bake a cake, because sexual orientation is not a protected class in Arizona. He acquiesces that it could change if sexual orientation is added as a protected class.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 04:44 AM (DmNpO)

297 180,

Sally , shot out of the cannon of OWS, has her own special idiocy which is evidenced every time she opens her mouth

Posted by: gracepmc at February 27, 2014 04:44 AM (rznx3)

298 But Maxine Waters!!!! One of the worst of the worst.

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 08:43 AM (T2V/1)

She is completely ineffective, but Cantor and Boehner and their ilk get things done, and that's worse than the idiots like Waters.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2014 04:46 AM (QFxY5)

299 289. Yep. Degrees of "tolerance" requiring participation. And it isn't as if there is any support behind these small business owners now. Rather, the opposite. Where are their legal and media champions? CYA

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 04:46 AM (MhA4j)

300 Oh for fuck's sake. A republican from MICHIGAN of all places thinks the tax code is the place to punish makers of violent video games?!! Unreal. Let me just offer my humble opinion: FUCK YOU ASSHOLE. Thanks for screwing the conservative side AGAIN. Why don't you pick winners and losers in teh tax code some more, but this time target abortion providers and supporters of gay marriage while you're at it. Fucking retard.

Posted by: deadrody at February 27, 2014 04:48 AM (aT8Zk)

301

didn't Malor say that there wouldn't be any lawsuits forcing bidnesspeople to trash their beliefs in deference to the most important extension of civil rights in the history of the Republic? I honestly can't remember and want to know if he's being disingenuous in not wanting any bills against what he said wouldn't happen

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 07:35 AM (FQEMb)

I don't know about Gabe specifically, but I do know that taken as a whole, the entirety of the gay marriage lobby promised precisely that.

I (for the record) support removing the government entirely from marriage. Any two adults should be permitted to enter any legal contract they wish. If they'd like to get a religious topper, that's between them and their church. The state has no role there.

I am, however, furious (and unsurprised) to see that the gay marriage lobby no longer seeks tolerance - their original goal - and now demands support and celebration. No. You're an adult. Sleep with whomever you choose. Not my business. Tolerance is accepting that you're making different choices than I. That part's easy.

What's being demanded, though, is that we teach our children that having two dads is the same as having a mom and dad, that we sue into oblivion any individual or business whose values differ from the gay lobby's and that the force of the state be brought to bear on any who don't sufficiently praise our homosexual citizens.

Eff that.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 27, 2014 04:49 AM (fwARV)

302 Kauf nicht bei Christ!

Posted by: Second Godwin of the thread? [/i] at February 27, 2014 04:51 AM (CnA98)

303 Ben Shapiro of BB crashes a UCLA hearing and spanks them over Jew Hatred.

http://tinyurl.com/psulka6
Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 07:00 AM (T2V/1)

The amazing part to me is that what he said, while powerful, is also so clearly obvious to any human capable of rational thought. Unfortunately, hatred for Jews is way around the bend from rational.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 27, 2014 04:52 AM (BZAd3)

304 The case against using trees and crops as fuel for cars and power plants has grown stronger in recent years. The expansion of corn for ethanol in the American Midwest has worsened water pollution and soil erosion, and has had no benefit in terms of reduced emissions. EuropeÂ’s biofuels mandate has resulted in a palm oil boom that has devastated the rain forests of Indonesia and Malaysia, driving orangutans to the brink of extinction. And now efforts like those in Germany to burn wood for fuel, known as Â“biomass,Â” have been shown to be no better for climate change than coalÂ—and perhaps even worse.

Society canÂ’t entirely sever itself from its roots in the environment, but neither should it organize itself as an elaboration of closed-loop ecology. To view ourselves as an organic part of an ecosystem, constrained to scrimping along on its resources as efficiently as possible, is to place too heavy a burden on ecosystems to sustain us. There is no way such a conception of civilization can satisfy the social imperative of economic growth and improved living standards and accommodate what green consciousness values most in nature Â– its otherness, its autonomy from utilitarian ends, and its purposeless effusions of beauty.

Environmentalists often talk of the Â“ecosystem servicesÂ” the environment provides to society, but we must be equally mindful of the benefits that human technological genius can afford to ecosystems. Stewardship of the planet requires that we continue to unshackle ourselves from ecosystems, and ecosystems from us.

Posted by: Rachel Carson at February 27, 2014 04:53 AM (e8kgV)

305 Dear just about every right-wing site on the 'net: Why am I suddenly being forced to know or care who the fuck Ronan Farrow is? I do not know who he is and I do not know why I should give a fuck. Just another limp-wristed Hollywood hellspawn as far as I can tell.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 04:53 AM (7ObY1)

306 And even Gabe is arguing ... sexual orientation is not a protected class in Arizona. 297. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse No surprise. I heard his shoe drop (yesterday's post) before he let it go. CLASS WARFARE, GABE. Way to go. POST-CONSTITUTIONAL AMERICA! Way to go, Gabe. What an IDIOT for a lawyer. So unless there are LOADS of specific laws naming each and every specific segment of US citizens by their specific special interest, Americans are not protected. Bill of Rights? "Been down that rabbit hole too many times already." NSA to the rescue...pfft

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 04:54 AM (MhA4j)

307 "245 "Seriously where are the so called tolerant gay groups condemning the gay couples suing businesses into closure?"
Posted by: votermom

Hiding in the closet with us.

Posted by: peaceful Muslims and patriotic Democrats at February 27, 2014 08:23 AM (crLRi)"

How can we have this discussion without this film clip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTKTh2MRm-w

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 27, 2014 04:55 AM (PD6iL)

308 Disappointment with Barack Obama's presidency has grown since the summer of 2012, and much of that rise has been among independents. Forty percent of independents say they are very disappointed today, up from 27 percent in August 2012.

President Obama's overall approval rating is now 41 percent, a dip of five points from last month and similar to what it was in December. Fifty-one percent disapprove of the job he is doing, up four points from last month.

More specifically, Mr. Obama gets low marks for his handling of both foreign policy (39 percent approve) and the economy (38 percent approve).

Posted by: The Only Good Poll is a May Pole at February 27, 2014 04:57 AM (e8kgV)

309 And thanks to modern anasthetics, it's completely painless... after the needle's initial prick....

Posted by: mindful webworker the idiot at February 27, 2014 08:29 AM (crLRi)

Just the tip...

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 27, 2014 04:58 AM (o3MSL)

310 Just the tip...

How was I supposed to know you're lactose intolerant?

Posted by: GMan at February 27, 2014 04:59 AM (sxq57)

311 RIP to Jim Lange, host of TV's "The Dating Game." Nice, decent, fun-loving guy and a great host. "S*W*A*K*"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:59 AM (olDqf)

312

Good morning from Sydney way way Down Under...

It's Friday and I have a day off to babysit my gorgeous grandkiddie as his Mum is crook and needs time out - so a choice - a day with my little gorgeous boy or work? Easy as I have a zillion hours of leave...

Sorry for being OT but this time difference has me on a different wave length

Firstly - I have a couple of lovely lesbian friends who lead quiet lives minding their own business and they are horrified at the antics of the gay activists - it's quite upsetting for them really

Secondly I was reading about biscuits and gravy??? For us heathens down here a biscuit is a sweet thing - you call them cookies and so gravy poured over a cookie sounds vile

So I had to bing biscuit - so it's like a scone but with gravy? Really?

Scones are meant to have jam and cream on them!

Thirdly to shut these bloody gay activists up I'll bake their bloody wedding cake for them - and send it over to them (by sea)

I have expert cake making qualifications - I can bake a cake from scratch, I can mix up icing, and I can stick candles on it in a nice arrangement

Fourthly, there is a local blues band here called Collard Greens and Gravy - always wondered what collard greens are... never bothered to look it up until tonight after reading the ONT

Again, learning stuff via this site!

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:00 AM (nP3cM)

313 the oregon baker could facing jail time for the crime of not baking a cake for a ghey wedding.....JAIL TIME from breitbart back in december http://tinyurl.com/ksvkx7a

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at February 27, 2014 05:00 AM (u8GsB)

314 Environmentalists often talk of the Â“ecosystem servicesÂ” the environment provides to society, but we must be equally mindful of the benefits that human technological genius can afford to ecosystems. Stewardship of the planet requires that we continue to unshackle ourselves from ecosystems, and ecosystems from us.

Posted by:Rachel Carson at February 27, 2014 08:53 AM (e8kgV)

I have a cunning plan!

Posted by: M Sanger at February 27, 2014 05:01 AM (o3MSL)

315 244 90%+ of gays in America vote and support the hard left. Just reality. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 08:23 AM (ZPrif) ======================== This might be true but I'd be interested in the results of polling, if its readily available. More gay people I know are Republican than Democrat. The social agenda is an issue, but neither party is monolithic on this stuff.

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 05:02 AM (SMd3b)

316 Gowdy will be on FNC in a few minutes to discuss the IRS

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:02 AM (DmNpO)

317 So I had to bing biscuit- so it's like a scone but with gravy? Really?

Not as sweet, or a dense, as a scone really. So kind of like a scone, but not really. And you don't use brown gravy, but "sawmill gravy" (sausage gravy), which is basically just a roux, some milk, salt & pepper, and some crumbled breakfast sausage.

Posted by: GMan at February 27, 2014 05:02 AM (sxq57)

318 309?

What "economy?"

It's been dead here since the coronation of Duh!1 seemed assured.

Posted by: backhoe at February 27, 2014 05:03 AM (ULH4o)

319 and now I want some biscuits and gravy

Posted by: GMan at February 27, 2014 05:03 AM (sxq57)

320 The real tragedy isn't the erosion of individual rights or the hyper-Leftist movement using gays as a means toward consolidating their power permanently, it's that Michael Sam can't run and Jason Collins can't jump.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 05:04 AM (ZshNr)

321 You see, [Trevor] Loudon is worried about what will happen as America continues retreating from world leadership and allowing her military to be further degraded. It could be the ugliest retreat since the first war in recorded history, almost 5,000 years ago.

Loudon stated emphatically that a world with America in retreat is a more dangerous world, especially in regards to China. He reminded the audience that the leadership of China is still Communist. He admonished us to Â“not believe the propaganda that Red China has goodwill toward America.Â”

Â“They would collapse you in a minute, if they felt they had the strength and leverage to do it,Â” he said.

Posted by: String of Pearls at February 27, 2014 05:04 AM (e8kgV)

322

320: "and now I want some biscuits and gravy"

Yup. At least I know what I'm making for dinner.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at February 27, 2014 05:04 AM (OJn3e)

323

Aussie, don't you dare compare my Nana's deliciously tender buttermilk biscuits with a craptastic scone.

And BISCUITS with sausage gravy are perhaps one of the most perfect foods on earth. Hell, I eat them even if I'm not hungry.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2014 05:05 AM (eytER)

324 And BISCUITS with sausage gravy are perhaps one of the most perfect foods on earth.

Yes.

Ok, we *really* need to stop talking about these...lol.

Posted by: GMan at February 27, 2014 05:07 AM (sxq57)

325 What an IDIOT for a lawyer. So unless there are LOADS of specific laws naming each and every specific segment of US citizens by their specific special interest, Americans are not protected. Bill of Rights? "Been down that rabbit hole too many times already." Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 05:08 AM (xZxMD)

326 I would like to add that Anchoress's admirable but naive post highlights why so many churches have slipped into the hypocracy category. Many churches have decided to not just tolerate the gay lifestyle, but to permit same sex weddings and openly gay clergy. Some have for genuine beliefs, but most have because it is PC, they think they are dodging the government hassels, they think they are obtaining tithe money they othewise would lose out on, and have in the back of their mind, they are somehow ministering to these people. Which implodes the entire moral teachings meme of these churches. Talk the talk, but don't walk it. Who wants to belong to a church that simply is a pillar of salt? Whose values and teachings change with society's whims and desires? The church was always supposed to be the bulwark AGAINST those whims and desires, which are normally rooted in the easy, the sinful, the appeal to the basest in humans. The church is supposed to be the support for those fighting against those sins, as being a sinner is so easy to drown in and having something to hang onto is what has kept our society from falling into a sea of sin. Our Founding Fathers knew this, having studied societies that have risen and fallen(Greek and Roman) and provided this framework called the Constitution that firstly promoted freedom of religion. That freedom then tasked the churches with upholding it. Churches who find it expedient to ignore their own teachings under the guise of being "inclusive" and understanding are abdicating that responsibility for their "forty shekels".

Posted by: Jen at February 27, 2014 05:08 AM (XkXzn)

327 Did someone say prick?

Posted by: Piers Morgan at February 27, 2014 05:08 AM (J6JcG)

328 Posted by: GMan at February 27, 2014 09:02 AM (sxq57)

A US "biscuit" can be simplistically viewed as dense bread similar to the consistency of a scone, but without any sugar.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 27, 2014 05:08 AM (o3MSL)

329 Scone. Sounds like a snake pronouncing a Jewish name.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 05:08 AM (olDqf)

330 Re NFL. Players will switch from N word to "Uncle Tom" unless the U T word gets banned too

Posted by: Far Post at February 27, 2014 05:09 AM (HHTXF)

331 Secondly I was reading about biscuits and gravy??? For us heathens down here a biscuit is a sweet thing - you call them cookies and so gravy poured over a cookie sounds vile So I had to bing biscuit- so it's like a scone but with gravy? Really? Fourthly, there is a local blues band here called Collard Greens and Gravy - always wondered what collard greens are... never bothered to look it up until tonight after reading the ONT *** Biscuits stand alone but are often served with gravy, especially for breakfast. Most often they are served with butter and sometimes with honey. Collard greens are practically a Southern staple. They are cooked with some sort of meat, usually pork, for flavoring. Some folks add pepper-vinegar as well. Other, similar "greens" are Mustard and Turnip greens. I love them all.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:09 AM (DmNpO)

332 HR aka Heather Radish is too hard on herself. I've seen pics of her and she's far from ugly. Lots of married women who look like beasts (no offense) and very attractive single peeps. It really has nothing to do with physical attractiveness. (Take a trip to David's Bridal one day if you doubt me.) Sometimes it's just the luck of the draw.

Posted by: Chique at February 27, 2014 05:09 AM (r+7wo)

333 Scarborough is considering running? For what? He should run back to MSNBC.

Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 05:10 AM (z4WKX)

334

318 Gman

Thanks - I'm intrigued now to find out what an American biscuit is

I'll have to try that gravy with sausage in it - with the wonders of Algores invention I will find a recipe for sure

Somewhere in a box in the garage is an American cookbook - from Paris Tennessee ( I went to a Quota convention in Toronto and ended up with that cookbook - might just have that recipe in it)

1am snack time...

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:10 AM (nP3cM)

335 Once they establish that gay trumps the First Amendment, they'll find a small church somewhere and demand they perform the service. These aren't quaint little couples who wind up in these situations, they're activists with agendas. This is planned lawfare.

Posted by: --- at February 27, 2014 05:10 AM (MMC8r)

336 He admonished us to "not believe the propaganda that Red China has goodwill toward America." "They would collapse you in a minute, if they felt they had the strength and leverage to do it," he said. Ask Japan how that worked out.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 05:11 AM (xZxMD)

337 Posted by: Jen at February 27, 2014 09:08 AM (XkXzn) Well said. And I don't have any solid stats to back this up, but I wouldn't be surprised if PC churches that have abandoned the teachings of Scripture aren't doing to well in the attendance category. As I've always said, what would the point of going to church be then? I would just sleep in.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 27, 2014 05:12 AM (r+7wo)

338

324@JohnTant

Recipe? Please?

For cultural understanding between two allied countries..

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:12 AM (nP3cM)

339 Biscuits stand alone but are often served with gravy, especially for breakfast. Most often they are served with butter and sometimes with honey. Blackberry jam. I can still say "blackberry" can't I?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 05:12 AM (xZxMD)

340 Come to think of it, even if the video isn't visually disturbing -- because no lie, it's hot -- the message is what could be construed as even further detrimental to Beyonce's message of undying feminism. Check out the lyrics:

Driver roll up the partition please
I don't need you seeing Yonce on her knees ...
Oh he so horny, yeah he want to f---
He popped all my buttons, and he ripped my blouse
He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown

Posted by: Lee Harvey Oswald at February 27, 2014 05:13 AM (e8kgV)

341 Gabriel Malor ‏@gabrielmalor 3m Louisiana AG brings in special counsel to work solely on cases challenging the state's gay marriage ban. http://goo.gl/73Nk8r

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:14 AM (DmNpO)

342

Aussie, making sausage gravy is as easy as falling off a log....

Basic recipe:

Cook up your sausage (has to be crumbles...) and remove from the pan. LEAVE THE FAT.

Put in some flour, about a 1/4 cup and mix it up. Pour in 2 cups of whole milk while stirring it up (gotta pour it in gradually...). Let it simmer until it's fairly thick (it will thicken further as it stands, so the trick is removing it from the heat so it doesn't get too thick later...knowing exactly when is a criteria for being a good wife... ). Add the sausage back in, give it a stir, and offer it to your grateful family.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2014 05:14 AM (eytER)

343 This is planned lawfare.

Posted by: --- at February 27, 2014 09:10 AM (MMC8r)

What consistently fascinates, and appalls, me is that the left is so skilled and able to practice lawfare on every front to achieve their totalitarian goals, but the conservatives seem unable to mount even a feeble counter-lawfare suit or legislation.

Hate Crimes, they're what's in your future until you submit, approve, and participate!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 27, 2014 05:15 AM (o3MSL)

344 Scone. Sounds like a snake pronouncing a Jewish name. Scone doesn't sound like Eve to me.........

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 05:15 AM (xZxMD)

345

332NDH

Hi there, and I'll be looking up US recipes now

BTW thanks for your weekend posts too - great reading

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:15 AM (nP3cM)

346
I'd be interested in the results of polling, if its readily available.
Posted by: MTF

FWIW - Gallup's 2012 numbers -- 20%, But remember, even Ms Lindsey refers to himself as a "conservative". Some may be using that term rather broadly to define themselves, where a more objective issue by issue analysis would find otherwise:

http://tinyurl.com/92v32qc

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2014 05:15 AM (kdS6q)

347 Trey Gowdy re Lois Lerner "We are NEVER giving her immunity". Gowdy is killing it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:15 AM (DmNpO)

348 320 and now I want some biscuits and gravy

Posted by: GMan at February 27, 2014 09:03 AM (sxq57)

And I was just telling wifey I was hungry again because that Bob Evans breakfast patty was just not enough.

Here you and aussie are making me even more hungry.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 05:15 AM (T2V/1)

349

337: "Ask Japan how that worked out. "

We were made of sterner stuff back then.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at February 27, 2014 05:16 AM (f6ZLT)

350 Mmmm. Milady baked Irish Soda Bread biscuits yesterday. Thunk I'll go warm one up. Don't have any gravy, so lotsa butter will have to do. (Yes, spellnanny, lotsa is a word, to me. Now it is to you, too. Such a pitiful vocabulary!) Somebody not long back memorably mentioned a grandmother who liked to make sure the butter was as thick as the bread. Recalling that encourages me when I'm slathering it on.

Posted by: mindful webworker the idiot at February 27, 2014 05:16 AM (K7W+A)

351 Hi there, and I'll be looking up US recipes now BTW thanks for your weekend posts too - great reading *** Thanks! And, you're welcome!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:16 AM (DmNpO)

352 Valerie Jarrett is going to be on Bill O'Ego's show tonight. I wonder how what he did for SCOAMF to get her on? I am happy I will be at work listening to Mark Levin. If there is anything worth seeing Ace might have a link. I expect it will be more ass kissing & three + weeks of Bill talking about it. He becomes more insufferable every month. If I watch it is on mute & I try to catch Dennis Miller.

Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 05:16 AM (z4WKX)

353 Aussie. Pretty good chance any cookbook from Paris, Tennessee has a biscuit gravy recipe, too.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 27, 2014 05:16 AM (vVOWk)

354 Gabe, don't cry wolf. You know well that the thriving homosexual community is alive and kicking in AZ, enjoying immense political power, prestige and influence. No one threatens the gay community without suffering for it in AZ. More importantly, most Arizonans couldn't care less whether their peers, friends, coworkers and neighbors are gay or not -- because most Arizonans expect their gay friends not to hold being heterosexual against a person. That is not to say parents don't have reasonable concerns as their young children are being indoctrinated at school to reject "traditional family" since the "cool" ideal lifestyle is gay, the way they are taught to experience. And if you're not gay, you're not acceptable. Hence the libertarian "your rights stop when they invade my rights" Classical Liberal premise for mutual respect. People have the right to "Just Say No" when expected to participate in some event that should by all rights be left to personal choice. I maintain that we each have a right to privacy in our homes, and a right "to thine own self be true" at all times. Your right to privacy has no right to invade my privacy. Proving adult maturity, people can keep sexuality a personal matter, not "in your faces". And no extraneous laws will improve problems. Just add to the heap fueling "frivolous" law suits. Which is your bag for profit.

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 05:16 AM (MhA4j)

355

Darn, hit send too early....

Add ground pepper if you want. Shouldn't need salt because of the sausage.

Cut a BISCUIT in half, ladle about 1/2 cup or so of gravy over the halves, and tuck in mate.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 27, 2014 05:17 AM (eytER)

356 Speaking of biscuits and gravy, I'm heading to Hardees the moment Gowdy is off the air.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:17 AM (DmNpO)

357 I can still say "blackberry" can't I?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 09:12 AM (xZxMD)

The style manual says "kcalbberries" are scrumptious!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 27, 2014 05:17 AM (o3MSL)

358 Darn, hit send too early.... Add ground pepper if you want. Shouldn't need salt because of the sausage. Cut a BISCUIT in half, ladle about 1/2 cup or so of gravy over the halves, and tuck in mate. *** Even better, top the biscuit halves with scrambled eggs before ladleing on the gravy

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:18 AM (DmNpO)

359 I am not too worried about China....yet. When they get themselves a blue water navy, watch out.

But they really don't have anything in regards to a naval tradition.

It could take them awhile.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 27, 2014 05:18 AM (V70Uh)

360 339?

Yep. Lifelong Episcopalian here. Quit going to church when they went from "turning a blind" to "all ghey, all the time."

They lost me with that idiocy.

Posted by: backhoe at February 27, 2014 05:19 AM (ULH4o)

361 JohnTant's recipe looks good. Not much too it actually.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 27, 2014 05:19 AM (vVOWk)

362 332 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 09:09 AM (DmNpO)

When I was a kid I hated collards, now I lover them, especially pouring pepper vinegar over them.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 05:19 AM (T2V/1)

363 Trey Gowdy re Lois Lerner "We are NEVER giving her immunity". Gowdy is killing it. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 09:15 AM (DmNpO) Because he's not stupid. Not so sure about the others on the committee, though....

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 27, 2014 05:19 AM (r+7wo)

364 NDH - Who is Gowdy talking to? What show?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 05:19 AM (aDwsi)

365 How many times must Jeff Goldblum lecture scientists about chaos theory before they realize that the resurrection of extinct species is a bad fucking idea?

Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2014 05:19 AM (UzPAd)

366

344 @JohnTant

Thanks for the recipe - I'll try this on Sunday for brekkie as my son is staying with us and he likes a big breakfast

Now to look for an American style biscuit recipe...

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:19 AM (nP3cM)

367 "338 The Ann Coulter article in the sidebar is a must read-

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-02-26.html

Using it would certainly pick up votes for the GOP. Maybe even an extra 10% or so of the Black vote.

But, you know, Stupid Party, so.....

Posted by: naturalfake at February 27, 2014 09:11 AM (KBvAm)"

Well, yes that would make logical sense but

1) our betters have decided that we are going to have immigration amnesty regardless of how anybody votes

2) Blacks will not vote for Republicans. I have seen this dance going on for 30 years. It is just not ever going to happen.

That leads me to the conclusion that the Republican Party has the choice of either withering away or some new coalition survival strategy. I think that a FSA coalition is inevitable. The new Republican slogan will be, "We will take away free shit from Blacks and give it to Mexicans." What do you think? Catchy, no?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 27, 2014 05:21 AM (PD6iL)

368 I have been having scone for breakfast. They are kind of like a biscuit rather than pastry.

Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 05:21 AM (z4WKX)

369 335 Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 09:10 AM (nP3cM)

Do you have Bisquick over there? If so a box of that has a recipe on it and it makes a good quick biscuit that is pretty good. Not as good as Grandma's with lard, but still pretty good.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 05:21 AM (T2V/1)

370 @137 NDH Agree. The JD is wholly partisan so Issa has no leverage. I have never seen a more corrupt or racist AG or JD.

Posted by: Beagle at February 27, 2014 05:23 AM (sOtz/)

371 Yep. Lifelong Episcopalian here. Quit going to church when they went from "turning a blind" to "all ghey, all the time."

They lost me with that idiocy.

Posted by: backhoe at February 27, 2014 09:19 AM (ULH4o)

I'm in the same boat; is there any lefty bandwagon they won't jump on? Too bad because the liturgy is beautiful but they lost their way a long time ago.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 05:23 AM (FQEMb)

372 NDH - Who is Gowdy talking to? What show? *** He was on FNC but is off now. I'm sure the vid will be available before long.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 05:23 AM (DmNpO)

373 Drew has a post up about the Ukraine. The coffee put signals that it's shutting off. The day moves on.

Posted by: mindful webworker the idiot at February 27, 2014 05:24 AM (X66C/)

374 348 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2014 09:15 AM (kdS6q)

Did you see that link up top to the Winthrop poll on Miss Lindsay?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 05:24 AM (T2V/1)

375 Not as good as Grandma's with lard, but still pretty good.

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 09:21 AM (T2V/1)

I will have to research this, but I bet there has been an internet ban on biscuit recipes with lard.

Bisquick is a pretty good fallback method as opposed to scratch.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 27, 2014 05:24 AM (o3MSL)

376 "We will take away free shit from Blacks and give it to Mexicans." What do you think? Catchy, no? Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 27, 2014 09:21 AM (PD6iL) Sweet! But then we lose the Black vote/

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 27, 2014 05:24 AM (R8hU8)

377 Nood

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 27, 2014 05:24 AM (bCEmE)

378 A little help from the Horde here. I'm confused on ace's latest problem with whatever portion of the commentariat he was going after yesterday with the banhammer threat. As I read him yesterday, he'd probably go through this thread like he was playing whack-a-mole. Am I wrong? I'm just trying to get a bead on where the guy's coming from because he's been a little tough to pin down lately on where he stands concerning this sort of stuff.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 05:24 AM (gBnkX)

379 Nood. No dump.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 05:24 AM (xZxMD)

380 349 Trey Gowdy re Lois Lerner "We are NEVER giving her immunity".

Gowdy is killing it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 09:15 AM (DmNpO)

Good! Trey for SOH!

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 05:25 AM (T2V/1)

381 Biscuits
(Courtesy of: Homesick Texan)

Ingredients:
Two cups of flour
1 tablespoon of baking powder
1 teaspoon of sugar (can add more to taste)
1/2 teaspoon of salt
1 stick of butter, cold (8 tablespoons)
3/4 cup of buttermilk, cream or half-and-half

Method:
Preheat the oven to 450 degrees.
Mix all the dry ingredients together.
Cut the stick of butter into pieces, and work into the flour mixture with your hands or a pastry blender until it resembles pea-sized crumbs.
Add the liquid, mixing until a bit loose and sticky.
Pour dough out on a floured surface, and knead for a minute. Dough should be smooth and no longer wet. You can sprinkle more flour on the surface if you find itÂ’s sticking.
Take dough into a ball, and hit it with a rolling pin, turning it and folding it in half every few whacks. Do this for a couple of minutes.
Roll out dough until itÂ’s 1/4 of an inch thick, and then fold it in half.
Using a round cutter (can use a glass or a cup if donÂ’t have a biscuit cutter) cut out your biscuits from folded dough.
Place on a greased baking sheet close together (so they rise up not out), and bake for 15 minutes or until the tops are golden brown.
Makes 10-12 biscuits.

If you donÂ’t want to roll and cut them out, after kneading and beating the dough you can drop the dough onto the baking sheet with a spoon. TheyÂ’re not as symmetrical (dropped biscuits are also known as cat head biscuits) but theyÂ’re no less delicious.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 27, 2014 05:25 AM (QFxY5)

382

350 Vic

I'm making myself hungry and it's almost 1.30am here!

Thanks for your news - but I especially won't thank you for the Kindle posts because I am addicted to pressing that BUY button...it's so easy and I'm wondering if there are any Kindle buying addict support groups!

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:25 AM (nP3cM)

383 I'm confused on ace's latest problem with whatever portion of the commentariat he was going after yesterday with the banhammer threat. Busy yesterday, so I clearly missed that. Summary?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 05:27 AM (naUcP)

384

355 Golfman in NC

Job for the weekend - look for the Paris, Tennessee cookbook...

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:28 AM (nP3cM)

385 I know nood is up, but I have to get ready for work. Have a good day.

Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 05:28 AM (z4WKX)

386 385 Basically, he's a little tired of the give up and LIB crowd. My take only.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 05:28 AM (ojnk6)

387 380 I'm just trying to get a bead on where the guy's coming from because he's been a little tough to pin down lately on where he stands concerning this sort of stuff.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 09:24 AM (gBnkX)

He is down on the "rage against the government all the time" crowd with rage posts in every thread. I guess that includes me so will have to be careful,

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 05:28 AM (T2V/1)

388 Re: The Dartmouth student demands - If the administration caves it will transform (destroy) their school. The list is unbelievable (and looong) in it's scope, such as insisting that every discipline have a new queer-focused course (Queer Math? Queer Geology?). Of course, no concept of what it would cost to cover these demands and whether or not anyone would want to actually take these courses or want to spend tens of thousands a year to help pay for them.
Crazy!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2014 05:29 AM (aq/zi)

389 384 I'm wondering if there are any Kindle buying addict support groups!

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 09:25 AM (nP3cM)

If so I probably need one.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 05:29 AM (T2V/1)

390

371 Vic

Thanks

I'm sure I've seen that brand around - if not I know I'll find a recipe somewhere plus I make scones often so not much difference apparently

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:30 AM (nP3cM)

391 "368
344 @JohnTant

Thanks for the recipe - I'll try this on Sunday for brekkie as my son is staying with us and he likes a big breakfast
Now to look for an American style biscuit recipe...

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 09:19 AM (nP3cM)"

Traditionally, the biscuit dough is rolled out on a table or counter and then a water glass is used to cut out the biscuits before they are baked.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 27, 2014 05:32 AM (PD6iL)

392 Burn The Witch, I thought I was here most of yesterday but had a lot of things going on. I missed that part.

Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 05:32 AM (z4WKX)

393 Vic, if you haven't already, try collard greens on a bed of diced onions and tomatoes, with a large piece of buttered cornbread. Yummy. And good morning, y'all. I see we're still SNAFU-ed. Ahh, consistency...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 05:32 AM (0HooB)

394 Thanks Vic. I vaguely recall the post that started ace on the rant and being a bit surprised that ace characterized it as even remotely ragey, so that's what made me wonder.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 05:33 AM (gBnkX)

395 327 Jen A lot of people join clubs for business purposes, making social contacts. Church as social club. There's devotion to set beliefs, and there's devotion to popularity. Human nature isn't all bad. Still, wide gate v. narrow gate. Aldous Huxley: Krishnamurti is a great teacher who is in danger of becoming popular.

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 05:34 AM (MhA4j)

396 How many times must Jeff Goldblum lecture scientists about chaos theory before they realize that the resurrection of extinct species is a bad fucking idea? Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2014 09:19 AM (UzPAd) Leftist environmentalists betray the fact that they don't really believe in evolution, of which extinction is a natural, and essential component.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 27, 2014 05:34 AM (aYjRw)

397 Oh, and Bisquick biscuits with shredded cheese in them are also good.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 05:34 AM (0HooB)

398 Basically, he's a little tired of the give up and LIB crowd. And I'm a little tired of that characterization, but whatevs. His joint, his call.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 05:35 AM (naUcP)

399

383 CBD

Thanks!

So at Chez Aussie on Sunday we will go all American and have biscuits and gravy (to replace our Aussie Sunday brekkie of fried eggs, bacon and toast)

I will wear my Route 66 souvenir T shirt while cooking and have the telly on Fox News... to make it authentically American!

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:35 AM (nP3cM)

400 373?

Cap 'N Hate?

Yep, the services were beautiful. We always had a few gay folks and nobody cared. They came in peace, kept to themselves, and minded their own business.

But when the church itself started promoting & lauding all the Ghey Junk, they lost me.

Too bad, so sad- over 1.51% of the populace.

Now? I consider the Sky & clouds as my "church." Look at these, and see the Face of God. It will do....

Posted by: backhoe at February 27, 2014 05:36 AM (ULH4o)

401 395 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 27, 2014 09:32 AM (0HooB)

LOL, sounds like a lot of trouble for just me.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 05:36 AM (T2V/1)

402 383 Biscuits (Courtesy of: Homesick Texan) Speakin' of which, memory serves 'Nam Grunt's cats-head biscuits and fixin's.

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 05:37 AM (MhA4j)

403

393 Obnoxious A-hole

Yes that's how I make my Aussie scones - on the benchtop using a glass to cut the shape

Sorry to have derailed this thread into a cooking one...

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:38 AM (nP3cM)

404 Aussie, I buy blueberry scones at grocery store. My late mother used to use Bisquick to make biscuits.

Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 05:39 AM (z4WKX)

405 Found at Neo Neocon - Edie: The secret life of the only Republican Artist in Fiercly Liberal Seattle

http://dementiachronicles.com/

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2014 05:40 AM (aq/zi)

406 LOL, sounds like a lot of trouble for just me. I know what you mean. B'Gal can't tolerate any type of spicy food, so if I want anything with any flavor, I usually wind up eating alone too. I put a small pepper in my collards while they cook down, or at least I used to, in addition to the hamhock.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 05:40 AM (0HooB)

407 405 When we'd go camping on vacations, my dad made the BEST dutch oven biscuits. Great memories.

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 05:41 AM (MhA4j)

408 Dang, you guys are making me hungry for biscuits!!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2014 05:42 AM (aq/zi)

409 It's like a president getting a Nobel Peace Prize 2 days after his inauguration. Weird... Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 07:37 AM (olDqf) My Wife and I were in an airport and she said "Obama just won the Nobel Peace Prize." I said "no, he was nominate, but he can't win it, he was just inaugurated and hasn't done anything, yet." She said "no, look" pointing to the CNN screen showing Obama "won it." Many things have angered me since, but nothing has surprised me.

Posted by: duke at February 27, 2014 05:42 AM (d3clc)

410 Sorry to have derailed this thread into a cooking one... There's been a lot of comment creep in the past week or so, even more than usual. We've been derailed on far worse subjects than food.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 05:43 AM (0HooB)

411 Freedom means accepting the fact that other people are not always going to behave the way you want them to. Some of us prefer to let people behave in ways we donÂ’t approve of, so long as no one is harmed, rather than have the state force everyone to behave the way it deems appropriate, like an overzealous playground monitor.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 05:43 AM (+5bkH)

412 Time to move on to the nood. Bring Willow

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 05:44 AM (T2V/1)

413 "His Mum is crook " Crrook? Need a translation from Aussie to American please, :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2014 05:44 AM (XyM/Y)

414

406 Carol

I love blueberries in scones and muffins - bake them often

Hope all is well with you too and I do say a prayer for your dear brother

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:55 AM (nP3cM)

415

415 FenelonSpoke

Crook here means sick/ill

Slang is a wondrous thing!

BTW I like your posts - I'm rediscovering my religious beliefs after years of not caring one way or the other...

Your posts are quite inspirational for me...

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 05:58 AM (nP3cM)

416 Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 09:43 AM (+5bkH)

We have turned a dangerous corner where Freedom must be enforced by essentially over-whelming government force (via a legal system and a tax code) to ensure that the right people are in charge of allocating the re-distribution of Freedom.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 27, 2014 05:59 AM (o3MSL)

417

Before leaving, thanks for the Gallup numbers on LGBT conservative and GOP voting. Run the numbers: we aren't talking about a lot of votes here to begin with (and I'm willing to bet those votes are clustered in urban areas that largely vote Democrat anyway), but if GOP candidates can attract 60% of the indie vote (as they try to do in a general election), that number plus the GOP vote is pretty damn close to a plurality of LGBT vote totals.

I think the Dems cater to this demographic mainly because it is capable of donating lots of money to Democrat candidates.

I don't think the vote itself matters very much to them.

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 06:00 AM (B5y+v)

418 I agree on the mewling from the Anchoress piece. I haven't read one bit of the Gospels which depict Jesus participating in sin to get a point across. He didn't ask for a blow job from the prostitutes nor pay for his disciples to get head. Essentially, that is what the piece is saying the Christian baker should do-bake that penis cake but put a little note on it saying this is not appropriate.

Posted by: ejo at February 27, 2014 06:03 AM (GXvSO)

419 Thanks, Aussie, I figured that it meant ill but I thought I;d check Slang is so interesting. My brother-in-law who is English came for a first visit here before he married my sister and he kept talking about wanting to "knock people up". My sister had to explain the difference between what it meant in England and what it meant here. I hope that your daughter who is "crook" gets "un-crook" soon. Thanks, sister. :^) I appreciate your kind words and God bless you and yours.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 27, 2014 06:05 AM (XyM/Y)

420 Testing ... Testing ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 27, 2014 06:05 AM (cKXXC)

421 "Mother Jones headline: Global Warming Will Cause 180,000 More Rapes by 2099. Oh my! [NDH]" You bet! Last week it finally got into the 40s for a few days and I went out a rapen and a pilligan!

Posted by: NotCoach at February 27, 2014 06:09 AM (rsudF)

422

421 FenelonSpoke

Thanks again - yes my daughter has lupus and gets these episodes of extreme fatigue - and her hubby is working in the US so Mum has to step in

Posted by: aussie at February 27, 2014 06:11 AM (nP3cM)

423 OT: So, another day, another lack of interest in the latest Snowden/Greenwald revelations, about how the governments of the world manipulate the internet via articles and comments, to destroy the reputations of individuals and organizations?

http://bit.ly/1k6dHGh

Seriously, this is getting very creepy, folks. The only place I've seen this posted was on ZeroHedge, who themselves only reported on it because it was posted to Reddit...and repeatedly deleted by moderators.

A story about government manipulation and censorship of the internet apparently is being censored from the internet.

Posted by: YourPoopyPants at February 27, 2014 06:11 AM (Y/HG5)

424

@ 420

Spoken For Truth

It is clear this Anchoress never heard of "the slippery slope" or "getting their foot in the door". How, she asks, can you witness to someone you will not serve? Yes, Christian doctor, just perform that abortion and explain to the nice lady how taking human life, especially innocent life, is like, um, wrong and stuff.

Posted by: knucklehead at February 27, 2014 06:15 AM (VDovR)

425 426-sounds about right. As long as you put in a disclaimer, it sounds as though you can do anything. Funny how Jesus said go no and sin no more, not "you got any friends that like to party".

Posted by: ejo at February 27, 2014 06:19 AM (GXvSO)

426 According to Lee, with white gentrification comes disruption. The entire rant was transcribed by New York magazine. HereÂ’s an excerpt:

Â“HereÂ’s the thing: I grew up here in Fort Greene. I grew up here in New York. ItÂ’s changed. And why does it take an influx of white New Yorkers in the south Bronx, in Harlem, in Bed Stuy, in Crown Heights for the facilities to get better? The garbage wasnÂ’t picked up every (expletive) day when I was living in 165 Washington Park. P.S. 20 was not good. P.S. 11. Rothschild 294. The police werenÂ’t around. When you see white mothers pushing their babies in strollers, three oÂ’clock in the morning on 125th Street, that must tell you something.Â”

... don't you know it. When the White show up, they ruin things by having the garbage picked-up, schools improved, and more police patrols. I mean, what could be worse than that ?

Posted by: Bosley® Hair Restoration at February 27, 2014 06:23 AM (e8kgV)

427

@ 427

Amen

The most abused and misrepresented story in the Bible. The wicked always say, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", but they always leave out the last thing Christ says to the women, "Go and sin no more".

Posted by: knucklehead at February 27, 2014 06:26 AM (VDovR)

428 HOUSTON Â— Offshore wind turbines could help prevent destruction caused by hurricanes by draining the storms of their deadly winds before they made landfall, according to a new scientific study.

The study, published Wednesday in the journal Nature Climate Change, estimates that a massive field of wind turbines could slow hurricane wind speeds by as much as 92 miles per hour and reduce storm surges by 79 percent in some situations.

Stanford University professor Mark Z. Jacobson, one of the reportÂ’s three authors, said the study marks the first time researchers have identified the potential hurricane-weakening effect of offshore wind turbines.

Â“If people are on the edge of whether they want to do offshore wind in the East Coast or Gulf Coast, I think this should be an additional motivation for doing it,Â” Jacobson said.

Jacobson and his team conducted the study by using computer models that simulated some of the most devastating and well-known storms in recent years, including 2012′s Hurricane Isaac and Hurricane Sandy and 2005′s Hurricane Katrina. They combined that with models of how wind turbines interact with the environment and simulated what would have happened if massive numbers of turbines were put in the way of those storms.

Posted by: Frank Underwood at February 27, 2014 06:32 AM (e8kgV)

429 The anchoress makes a good point - as she usually does. I am afraid, though, that the heat has been brought up too hot too fast and no one will back off until people are hurt - maimed and killed. I'm not casting blame anywhere, just noting that I think something bad will happen in these culture wars and then you are going to have people asking "How on earth did we get here?"

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Clean Up You Caucus! Rumor Soap with Lathering Phosphates at the Outrage Outlet! at February 27, 2014 06:34 AM (hLRSq)

430 Essentially, that is what the piece is saying the Christian baker should do-bake that penis cake but put a little note on it saying this is not appropriate. Posted by: ejo at February 27, 2014 10:03 AM (GXvSO) Which violates another Commandment, namely do unto others as you would have them would do unto you. If one agrees to provide a cake for someone's wedding, that cake should be baked and decorated, delivered, and served to the best of the bakers ability. And proselytizing while serving it would be no more acceptable having taken the couple's money and agreeing to providing the service than if the shoe was on the other foot and a divorced baker was serving while expounding on the evils of getting married.

Posted by: Jen at February 27, 2014 07:16 AM (XkXzn)

431 Rep. Camp's new tax reform plan singles out the makers of violent video games for disfavorable tax treatment. This guy should know better.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (vd7A8)

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