March 27, 2014

Top Headline Comments 3-27-14
— Gabriel Malor

Happy Thursday.

Democrats are having a banner week when it comes to being arrested and charged with corruption. See here for the cases just from yesterday. Here's the one from Sunday's papers. The case against Leland Yee sounds like it was stolen from a Hollywood blockbuster.

Fallout from the Washington Post's now-debunked hit piece on the Koch brothers' Alberta oil sands investment continues, with two Democratic mouth breathers on the Hill using the false report to demand that Koch Industries explain its plans for Keystone XL. Even the hacktastic Washington Post piece noted that the Kochs haven't reserved space in the pipeline and that industry folks think the pipeline will conflict with the Kochs' other energy business.

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1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 02:50 AM (PYAXX)

2 stop fapping and start yapping morons

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 27, 2014 02:51 AM (XvrTA)

3 A day without a dem pol perp walk is like a day without sunshine.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 02:52 AM (d0Dmj)

4 morning folks!

Posted by: wing at March 27, 2014 02:52 AM (dLNm7)

5 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Thursday, March 27, 2014.  On this day in 1884 the Cincinnati Courthouse Riots took place after an obvious murderer was convicted only of manslaughter.  Thousands of people stormed the jail looking to lynch the murderer and ultimately burned the courthouse to the ground.  In all 45 people were killed and 125 injured.   Today's politicians who are protecting felons from prosecution would do well to remember this kind of historical stuff.  But I doubt if it is being taught under Common Core.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

6 The number of deaths from the WA mudslide climbs to 16 while the missing drops to 90.


http://tinyurl.com/ohnnbz8

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

7 Democrats want to act like they are going to push for an Obamacide 'fix" as a political ploy before the 2014 elections.  Yes, they are worried.  Republicans should counter with "why didn't you read the damned bill before you passed it?  Why didn't you allow Republicans into the conference room when designing the POS, instead of locking them out?  


But they won't.


http://tinyurl.com/l5dtwcc

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

8 Thousands sign a WH petition for AK to secede and return to Russia.  One suspects that this is meddling from Russia under the direction of Putin.


http://tinyurl.com/k24l7gm

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

9 another 3-5 inches of glorious global warming coming our way to day....

Posted by: wing at March 27, 2014 02:53 AM (dLNm7)

10 We often decry crummy Republican candidates who make dumb remarks about abortion or other social issues.  How about this one in CA.  I am sure the Democrats will make hay on him.


http://tinyurl.com/qh8fher

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

11 Guilty as sin, free as a bird....  That's just the way I roll... 

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 27, 2014 02:53 AM (GjPnA)

12 Houston is bracing for the invasion of Raspberry Crazy Ants.  They don't attack and sting like fire ants but they will eat your house to the ground and they multiply by the millions once they are set.  But I am sure that, like fire ants, if we find a good insecticide to kill them the EPA will ban it because it may cause cancer if you eat 40 pounds of it a day for 50 years.


http://tinyurl.com/mu4m2ue

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

13 Union activists who are pushing the minimum wage hikes for fast food places forbid their workers from protesting.  After all, it's not about the workers.  It's all about enriching the union thug bosses.


http://tinyurl.com/mu4m2ue

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

14 Meanwhile blue State CT passes a bill to raise it's minimum wage to the Obama desired $10.10 an hour.  Does this mean that CT government workers get an automatic wage hike, or are these shitty contracts that government officials have signed tied to the national minimum wage only?


http://tinyurl.com/n4u2vke

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

15 Some may have missed this in the comments yesterday afternoon.  In an amazingly idiotic ruling a regional NLRB has ruled that college athletes who are on scholarships are employees of the college and therefore may unionize. This is an outgrowth of a protest by a former Northwestern quarterback who would be "like a son to Obama".  Since Obama stacked the NLRB with union goon lawyers there has been one ruling after another to force unionization instead of being a neutral arbitrator between business and labor.  Based on the politicization of the NLRB the labor relations act of 1935 should either be revised to eliminate the NLRB or just repealed altogether.


http://tinyurl.com/n4vlxlo

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

16 Is John Cornyn facing a reelection bid in TX this year?  He is trying to pull a lady Lindsay and up his conservative creds from the gutter.  He is calling the current Chuckie Schumer shield law push a bill to license the press.


http://tinyurl.com/l62mnqo

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

17 Journolist + Congress = ? Congolist? Journogress? The people demand to know!

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at March 27, 2014 02:55 AM (PGXA8)

18 In another push for even more obtrusive government regulations, the feds want Casinos to "vet" high rollers' funds.  Just how in the hell are they supposed to do that?  And it's all for this stupid war on drugs that we lost decades ago.


http://tinyurl.com/mr2ykh3

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

19 Paul Ryan continues his push for amnesty. Warning, link to Politico.


http://tinyurl.com/k5jkfnm

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

20 Trey Gowdy, a former prosecutor, knows what to do with corrupt IRS officials.


http://tinyurl.com/kq4489l

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

21 Alan Grayson really has become a Biden caricature.   Why isn't the press doing 24/7 headlines on his idiotic shit?


http://tinyurl.com/lr8fjmc

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

22 In the latest version of the "knockout game" a gang of black thugs attack a white couple and a 15 year old female thug hits a white woman in the face with a brick, resulting in dislodged teeth and a broken jaw.  No charges of a hate crime result.  But regardless of that she will probably walk with a "plea bargain".  In SC this would be aggravated assault resulting in serious bodily injury, a felony.  She would do hard time, but that's racist of course.  Unindicted criminal Holder would press for hate crime charges on the jury.


http://tinyurl.com/kzvahxs

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

23 Remember all those promises the RNC leadership made for 2010?  Well BB does.


http://tinyurl.com/mcczbzv

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

24 More news for you folks thinking of moving to Charleston.  Charleston, Myrtle Beach, and Hilton Head are among the fastest growing areas on the East Coast.


http://tinyurl.com/kaj3wfp

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

25 *drags ass in from ONT* *yawns* Coffee. Moar coffee. *shuffles down the hall*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 02:57 AM (qWfmw)

26 Graham still trying to shore up his conservative creds with a phony anti-internet gambling bill.   Why phony?  Because he and anyone with half a brain knows it probably will not even get out of committee, much less be passed.  And on top of that with the US collapsing around a corrupt administration and move to communism, this SOB is worried that someone may be using the Internet to place bets.


http://tinyurl.com/jvkz7dg

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

27 Speaking of Myrtle Beach, in a move that I agree with, they are banning large beach tents.  If you want shade, get a beach umbrella.


http://tinyurl.com/lyhwy6e

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

28 The Republican "Study Group" releases its own jobs bill.  This report sounds good, but I would like to see the "bad stuff" in it.


http://tinyurl.com/n8b2rlx

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

29 More on the "most opaque" administration ever.   The FERC is stonewalling FOIA on the nomination of an unqualified political crony.


http://tinyurl.com/lg4vpwr

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

30 A House of Representatives committee has met all legal requirements to schedule a vote on holding former IRS official Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress for refusing to testify in the targeting scandal, a memo from legal counsel finds.



So Issa, let's have at it.


http://tinyurl.com/ko4bm29

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

31 How will Obama defend his attacks on Christianity in his meeting with the Pope (which is a blatant attempt to shore up his religious cred).


http://tinyurl.com/lj4peqf

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

32 The Daily Deals


http://tinyurl.com/n552xj6



That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:59 AM (T2V/1)

33 I'm still reading that affidavit. The Cast of Characters alone reads like something from Central Casting.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:00 AM (PYAXX)

34 "Okay, I need one Asian Crime boss, one clean-cut Asian business owner, a seedy white guy... "

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:00 AM (PYAXX)

35 Graham still trying to shore up his conservative creds with a phony anti-internet gambling bill. Why is any anti-internet gambling bill (phony or otherwise) going to "shore up his conservative creds." I didn't realize that internet gambling was some big conservative issue.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:02 AM (PYAXX)

36 It's overcast and pitch black out, and the wind is up, giving the impression of mid-winter miserable outside. But when I opened the door, it was really much milder temp than it seems, and to prove that, a quartet of felines just marched right out into it. You might say, the fourcats calls for Spring. § Morning, Glories. Fresh Columbian is brewed. Wanna cuppa?

Posted by: mindful webworker — what, me wurryh? at March 27, 2014 03:02 AM (3ky+E)

37 28 Wife was just watching video of the Pope smiling and meeting people. Then video of Pope with Obama. She said the Pope was not smiling. Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 27, 2014 06:57 AM (oGrEy) Can't post what I would love to have the Pope do to that shithead.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 03:03 AM (qWfmw)

38 ... like something from central casting.


So the terrorist is Eastern European?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 27, 2014 03:03 AM (IVgIK)

39 Morning. I can't seem to get enough sleep this week. I am really looking forward to the weekend.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 27, 2014 03:04 AM (GwLJQ)

40 Morning you lovable buncha morons!

Woohoo! It's above freezing here!  34 degrees and drizzling.. ain't spring wunnerful?

Other than a weather report, I got nuthin'.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 27, 2014 03:04 AM (b/lt+)

41 37  Why is any anti-internet gambling bill (phony or otherwise) going to "shore up his conservative creds." I didn't realize that internet gambling was some big conservative issue.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 07:02 AM (PYAXX)



Social Cons, especially here, do not like gambling of any kind.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:04 AM (T2V/1)

42 You might say, the fourcats calls for Spring. And I thought *my* puns were terrible. Not to be catty.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:04 AM (PYAXX)

43 Social Cons, especially here, do not like gambling of any kind. Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2014 07:04 AM (T2V/1) Oh. Okay, I guess I can see that.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:05 AM (PYAXX)

44 Personally, I view prohibitions of gambling to be just more unjustified big government intervention.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:06 AM (T2V/1)

45 I imagine that a small, though greater in the Bible Belt, number of Christian social conservatives still view gambling as a vice to be discouraged.

I am curious to see if they put that high enough in their priorities for it to make a difference in Lindsey's campaign.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 27, 2014 03:06 AM (IVgIK)

46 Democrats and corruption go hand in hand, like butter and toast, hand and glove, condom and willy, and shrimp boy and machineguns. All Democrats have been stealing since they could crawl.....

Posted by: IrishEd at March 27, 2014 03:07 AM (D0NZx)

47 47  I am curious to see if they put that high enough in their priorities for it to make a difference in Lindsey's campaign.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 27, 2014 07:06 AM (IVgIK)


From what I have seen of his campaign in the liberal papers here I think he is worried this time.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:08 AM (T2V/1)

48 I imagine that a small, though greater in the Bible Belt, number of Christian social conservatives still view gambling as a vice to be discouraged. You know, as a very conservative Christian, I have to say that other people gambling doesn't bother me. I'm really not sure why it's the government's job to tell people whether or not gambling is ok.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:10 AM (PYAXX)

49 Mr. Graham of SC will win by a good margin. So many people I've spoken to here (SC Upstate) think they need him because he brings Fed. goodies into the state. They don't care about anything else.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 27, 2014 03:11 AM (Qp3K5)

50 On those college athlete being able to unionize..

I believe there are only a few dopes making this an issue.  The college athletes would first have to vote for unionization, wouldn't they?  I wonder how many would, considering the vast amount of money they already receive in tuition scholarships, etc.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 27, 2014 03:11 AM (b/lt+)

51 Morning all. Will we ever have morning in America again?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:12 AM (t3UFN)

52 So if the college players unionize do they have to pay union dues and pay taxes on their scholarships?

Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 27, 2014 03:13 AM (Qp3K5)

53 Will we ever have morning in America again? Yes. Whether or not we'll ever have morning in the United States of America is a completely different question, however.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:14 AM (PYAXX)

54 50  You know, as a very conservative Christian, I have to say that other people gambling doesn't bother me. I'm really not sure why it's the government's job to tell people whether or not gambling is ok.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 07:10 AM (PYAXX)


Especially when the government itself is involved in gambling as SC and most other States are now.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:14 AM (T2V/1)

55 All Democrats I could see a set of circumstances where I could go all Einsatsgruppen on their stinking asses. Not right, but there it is. I just hate them and nothing will change that. Kinda sad.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 03:14 AM (qWfmw)

56 So if the college players unionize do they have to pay union dues and pay taxes on their scholarships? Definitely yes to the first (which is, no doubt, why some union goon first brought up the idea). The second would certainly serve them right.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:14 AM (PYAXX)

57 I believe there are only a few dopes making this an issue. The college athletes would first have to vote for unionization, wouldn't they? I wonder how many would, considering the vast amount of money they already receive in tuition scholarships, etc. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 27, 2014 07:11 AM (b/lt+) Well apparently the athletes at Northwestern did. And don't be naive, if left standing it will kill college athletics

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:14 AM (t3UFN)

58 Can't post what I would love to have the Pope do to that shithead. Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 07:03 AM

I'm not interested in the Pope's reaction to Choom Boy.

All I want to see is someone slapping cuffs on President Historic First© and perp-walking him off to the slammer.

Before anyone tells me this is not gonna happen -- actual laws are no longer important because "fairness" and racism, right? -- note that I'm just having a fantasy here. A fantasy about my country being saved from that America-hating incompetent thug.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 27, 2014 03:15 AM (dDzOj)

59 Especially when the government itself is involved in gambling as SC and most other States are now. Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2014 07:14 AM (T2V/1) Criminalinois sure is. Both feet.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 03:15 AM (qWfmw)

60 So if the college players unionize do they have to pay union dues and pay taxes on their scholarships? Definitely yes to the first (which is, no doubt, why some union goon first brought up the idea). The second would certainly serve them right. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 07:14 AM (PYAXX) Liberals NEVER seem to see the consequences of their "textbook" actions.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:15 AM (t3UFN)

61 On those college athlete being able to unionize..

I believe there are only a few dopes making this an issue. The college athletes would first have to vote for unionization, wouldn't they? I wonder how many would, considering the vast amount of money they already receive in tuition scholarships, etc.



If the scholarships WERE to be counted as income, ie.,making the student athlete an employee, thereby beholden to the IRS & state income taxes, this would 'die on the vine".

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 03:17 AM (d0Dmj)

62 All I want to see is someone slapping cuffs on President Historic First© and perp-walking him off to the slammer. I would be a very happy individual .......and drunk for a month. Wait...OK, two months.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 03:17 AM (qWfmw)

63 Especially when the government itself is involved in gambling as SC and most other States are now. That, too. Actually, State Sanctioned gambling (lottos) is far worse if you ask me. At least the casino doesn't claim they're taking your money for your own good. The States tend to hide behind this lie of "funding education" and the siphon that money off to do other things.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:17 AM (PYAXX)

64 And if this kills big time college athletics- ie Football and Basketball- which bring ALL the money- it will kill all those other sports like womens cross county that the lib labs love

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:17 AM (t3UFN)

65 While in Philly, a prosecutor and a DA both black, are conducting a sting-op on corrupt black pols, and a rich white AG, claims the whole thing is racist. Meanwhile, she has lawyered-up and is threating to sue any media that runs an investigating story on her.

Posted by: redenzo at March 27, 2014 03:17 AM (WCnJW)

66 51 Mr. Graham of SC will win by a good margin. So many people I've spoken to here (SC Upstate) think they need him because he brings Fed. goodies into the state. They don't care about anything else.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 27, 2014 07:11 AM (Qp3K5)



IIRCC one of the Republican Party members counties in the upstate has censured him.  In any case, are these people who support him what you would call white members of the FSA?



Personally the only thing I have seen him bring to SC is that worthless POS superhighway that will run from NC down to Myrtle Beach without going through any significant town and generally follow the NC border until it gets close to the beach.  IOW a totally worthless road for SC.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:18 AM (T2V/1)

67 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 07:17 AM (t3UFN) And (for all the hate poured on Football and Basketball) raise tuition rates across the nation. Sports are a cash-cow on the order of government research grants.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:19 AM (PYAXX)

68 53?
That's what I saw when GA authorized Lotto. The poorest of the poor- gambling their money away. And all Lotto does is take that money & advertise for them to do more of it.....

Posted by: backhoe at March 27, 2014 03:20 AM (ULH4o)

69 55 So if the college players unionize do they have to pay union dues and pay taxes on their scholarships?

Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 27, 2014 07:13 AM (Qp3K5)



As I understand it IRS rules currently do not consider college scholarships taxable income. As for union dues, of course they will have to pay.  And if they are not in a right to work State they will be forced to join and pay.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:20 AM (T2V/1)

70 Some US commissaries May Close Due To Budget Cutbacks A lot of retirees on a fixed income count on the benefit they have earned. Weasel Zippers: This is a huge hit not only for retirees but also for young enlisted with families and others in the Military. It is a DIRECT cut in pay.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:20 AM (t3UFN)

71 Oh, and now some people here at work are talking about a topic I've been trying to avoid. Dallas' likely ban (or "partial ban") on plastic grocery bags. Can I say again how glad I am I don't live in Dallas County, let alone the city itself?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:20 AM (PYAXX)

72 47 -

Of course gambling is a vice.  It's like a lot of other things people like to do: it's very very harmful to some,  and just mostly harmful to most others. 

It attracts shady people who behave shadily, and it preys on the weak-minded. 

Government really has no business promoting it,  and frankly, most people's lives would be better off without it.

I couldn't possibly care less whether it is legal or not though. 

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 03:21 AM (BeSEI)

73 And if this kills big time college athletics- ie Football and Basketball- which bring ALL the money- it will kill all those other sports like womens cross county that the lib labs love



If football & basketball scholarships are considered "employees", then the scholarship program will be killed. Because it'll make ALL scholarships an "employee".

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 03:21 AM (d0Dmj)

74 Vic, these are well heeled conservative folk. I think it's a perception that he does good without them really knowing. Not all LIV's are Democrats.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at March 27, 2014 03:21 AM (Qp3K5)

75 Heck, the stock market is gambling.

Posted by: Case at March 27, 2014 03:21 AM (o00SF)

76 Liberals NEVER seem to see the consequences of their "textbook" actions. Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 07:15 AM (t3UFN) The 5 Stages of a typical Liberal Policy 1. Enthusiasm 2. Disillusionment 3. Panic 4. Search for the guilty 5. Awards and Praise for the non-participants.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 03:21 AM (qWfmw)

77 Today's politicians who are protecting felons from prosecution would do well to remember this kind of historical stuff. But I doubt if it is being taught under Common Core. —Vic Well. I never heard of those riots. Thanks, Vic. Reminds me a little of how the devastating Tulsa race riot of 1929 got started. Different prep circumstances - the kid was not likely guilty - but the protesting got out of hand. Negro North Tulsa, which had been a healthy, exemplery community. never really recovered from the burning. Had the distinction of being (until Pennsylvania) the only American city to have been bombed from the air. Fellow students at my high school had to dig up that history - it wasn't bring taught, either. and that was 'way before communist corpse in schools. That's when I discovered many of those nice black people I grew up with, who worked in white people's homes, came from families who settled on the west side of my home town after escaping the riots. In fact, the refugees went right by my ranch, giving a certain pass near here the name "N____r's* Gap," up until they put up street name signs.... *I hate not just using a word, it's so stupid. I've never used the N pejoratively in my life, but I have several stories which require its use. Bossy language cops! wait... dang! I wanted to read today, not write... what're you guys saying?

Posted by: mindful webworker — what, me wurryh? at March 27, 2014 03:21 AM (3ky+E)

78 As I understand it IRS rules currently do not consider college scholarships taxable income. As for union dues, of course they will have to pay. And if they are not in a right to work State they will be forced to join and pay. Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2014 07:20 AM (T2V/1) Yeah but if this ruling stands, then since this is the NLRB--and the L stands for LABOR- then labor=wages=taxable. Ain't no way around that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:22 AM (t3UFN)

79 79 Heck, the stock market is gambling. Posted by: Case at March 27, 2014 07:21 AM (o00SF) Very true.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 03:22 AM (qWfmw)

80 I have one dollar. I am hungry. What to do? What to do? Buy a loaf of bread to feed me or buy a lottery ticket and hope for the big payout?

You want to gamble your money away, go ahead. How about not making those who oppose gambling pay for that idiots snap?

Posted by: GMB (et al) at March 27, 2014 03:22 AM (nkPV9)

81 As I understand it IRS rules currently do not consider college scholarships taxable income. Here's a thought on that... If college scholarships are not taxable income, BUT athletes on scholarships are considered employees, does that mean schools are going to have to start paying their players at least minimum wage- in addition to their scholarships?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:23 AM (PYAXX)

82 Obama’s Partner In Peace Mahmoud Abbas Says He “Refuses To Discuss” Recognizing Israel As A “Jewish State”… If this was Israel, Obama and Kerry would be accusing them of “sabotaging the peace process.” Via Israel Hayom: Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said Tuesday that recognition of Israel as a Jewish state, one of Israel’s conditions for peace, will not be discussed in negotiations. “Recognition of a Jewish state is a condition that we absolutely refuse to discuss,” said Abbas at the Arab League summit in Kuwait. He went on to say that a future Palestinian state would be based on 1967 borders with some adjustments, east Jerusalem would be its capital, there would be Palestinian control over border crossings and airspace as well as full independence and sovereignty. Weasel Zippers: Why even have negotiations? Just as the palis what they want and give it them? Hey I got a great idea, lets give em a State?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:24 AM (t3UFN)

83 As I understand it IRS rules currently do not consider college scholarships taxable income. As for union dues, of course they will have to pay. And if they are not in a right to work State they will be forced to join and pay.


So now we'll have two conflicting rules.
1. Scholarship = Employee per NLRB
2. Non taxable income = Employee working for free per IRS

Hmmmmmmm..................

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 03:24 AM (d0Dmj)

84 If college scholarships are not taxable income, BUT athletes on scholarships are considered employees, does that mean schools are going to have to start paying their players at least minimum wage- in addition to their scholarships? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 07:23 AM (PYAXX) And of course pay for their Health Insurance or pay the fine

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:25 AM (t3UFN)

85 Yeah but if this ruling stands, then since this is the NLRB--and the L stands for LABOR- then labor=wages=taxable.

Ain't no way around that Posted by: Nevergiveup


Yeah. And employee - working for free = OMG SLAVERY!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 03:25 AM (d0Dmj)

86 As I understand it IRS rules currently do not consider college scholarships taxable income. As for union dues, of course they will have to pay. And if they are not in a right to work State they will be forced to join and pay. So now we'll have two conflicting rules. 1. Scholarship = Employee per NLRB 2. Non taxable income = Employee working for free per IRS Hmmmmmmm.................. Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 07:24 AM (d0Dmj) Hello: Can meet worms

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:25 AM (t3UFN)

87 79 Heck, the stock market is gambling. Posted by: Case at March 27, 2014 07:21 AM (o00SF) Very true. Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 07:22 AM (qWfmw) One of the things Ralph Nader got 100% right is how the stock market is a license to steal by the elite classes.

Posted by: Duncan of Idaho at March 27, 2014 03:26 AM (L0my5)

88 Why even have negotiations? Just as the palis what they want and give it them? Hey I got a great idea, lets give em a State? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 07:24 AM (t3UFN) Rhode Island. Take it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 03:26 AM (qWfmw)

89 If college scholarships are not taxable income, BUT athletes on scholarships are considered employees, does that mean schools are going to have to start paying their players at least minimum wage- in addition to their scholarships?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 07:23 AM (PYAXX)


And of course pay for their Health Insurance or pay the fine


Scholarship + min wage + 404Care = IRS & State Taxes.

You don't think states & the IRS will let that revenue stream go untaxed in this day & age, do you?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 03:28 AM (d0Dmj)

90 I "suspect" some Court will knock out this absurd NLRB ruling- and as I understand it it is not the Federal Board that ruled here but just some local NLRB guy- down.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:28 AM (t3UFN)

91 One of the things Ralph Nader got 100% right is how the stock market is a license to steal by the elite classes. Posted by: Duncan of Idaho at March 27, 2014 07:26 AM (L0my5) ....and sadly true. We serfs just hope to be on the winning side over 50% of the time.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 03:28 AM (qWfmw)

92 91 -

Steal from whom? 

At most you can say it's how the  wealthy manage to keep wealth concentrated amongst themselves, but I defy anyone, Ralph  Nader included, to show how it takes money, rightfully earned, out of the hands of anyone. 

That's the whole problem  with all wealth distribution talk.  Sure, life's not fair, and some people have way more money than they need. 

Now show  me how you propose to redistribute said wealth in ANY  way that even remotely does it without stealing from those who already rightfully (lawfully)  have it? 

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 03:29 AM (BeSEI)

93 85  If college scholarships are not taxable income, BUT athletes on scholarships are considered employees, does that mean schools are going to have to start paying their players at least minimum wage- in addition to their scholarships?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 07:23 AM (PYAXX)



The thought behind the ruling (besides another outright power grab) was that college scholarships run all the way to $75K value, therefore the football players are employees paid in that value.  That is far above minimum wage already.



Also note that the guy who filed this complaint with the NLRB is no longer a quarterback with NW so his Ox will not be gored.  And I would be willing to bet that the regional NLRB office, or one of their goons, put the guy up to do this.  IOW it is an illegal plant by a government agency.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:29 AM (T2V/1)

94 The thought behind the ruling (besides another outright power grab) was that college scholarships run all the way to $75K value, therefore the football players are employees paid in that value. That is far above minimum wage already. Yes, but my point (and others have pointed it out better than I) is this. The IRS does not view scholarships as income. For the NRLB to even have jurisdiction they have to view scholarships as income (or else the athletes could not be "employees.") These two cannot simultaneously exist.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:32 AM (PYAXX)

95

23: " In the latest version of the "knockout game..."

 

I wonder how long we the sheeple will tolerate this?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at March 27, 2014 03:33 AM (/qzu7)

96 Steal from whom? I'll never tell.

Posted by: Hillary! 2016 All Pantsuit and Cattle, too!! at March 27, 2014 03:33 AM (qWfmw)

97 I wonder how long we the sheeple will tolerate this? Who's "we?" I live in a shall issue state, and TX law allows that acting in defense of another's life is justifiable use of deadly force.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:34 AM (PYAXX)

98 Can't post what I would love to have the Pope do to that shithead. -- Perform an exorcism?

Posted by: votermom at March 27, 2014 03:34 AM (GSIDW)

99 The stock market is only gambling if you do something like day trading where you buy and sell penny stocks.


If you buy high dividend paying, stable, blue chip stocks and hold them it is not gambling.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:35 AM (T2V/1)

100

@98 Posted by: SE Pa Moron

 

So, you have safe odds.  Thing is the market can crash at any time.  Good and bad stocks go down and you lose money if you let it ride.  But the insiders will make money.

Posted by: Case at March 27, 2014 03:35 AM (o00SF)

101 Half-blind security guard at World Trade Center fired after sleeping on the job Abdul Basher, 65, of Queens was axed Saturday when a high-ranking Port Authority official snapped a photo of him snoozing on the job. Hum? Half blind and maybe also Muslim? Yup boy they take security at the World Trade Center seriously ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:37 AM (t3UFN)

102 99  These two cannot simultaneously exist.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 07:32 AM (PYAXX)



The question is "will NW challenge this in court".  Being the liberal assholes they are I would say no.  In which case this inconsistent interpretation will become static.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:37 AM (T2V/1)

103 John Hinderaker's response to the Whitehouse/Waxman letter is pretty funny in its mocking tone but gets a little ominous at the end, when he says: "I recognize that there is not currently pending any litigation in which court process would require the Washington Post to produce the requested information and documents. I don't know if that's a threat but it sounds like one. The Post might become a source of information on newspaper propaganda coordination with Democrats, whether they like it or not. Popcorn please.

Posted by: MTF at March 27, 2014 03:37 AM (B+HTd)

104 So did Lady Lindsey vote for the state run lottery? Of all the things that need fixing he thinks this is so important?

Posted by: freaked at March 27, 2014 03:37 AM (JdEZJ)

105 I was talking to a 23 year old graduate student the other day about the plane and mentioned Flight 93. 
Born in 1991. She had no idea what I was talking about. But I bet you she knows all about the bourgeois, the proletariat, and even the struggles of poor put upon islamo-americans. 
I weep for our shell of a country.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 27, 2014 03:38 AM (4/o9U)

106 100 23: " In the latest version of the "knockout game..."

I wonder how long we the sheeple will tolerate this?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at March 27, 2014 07:33 AM (/qzu7)



Until we have another riot like the one above in Cincinnati when fed up people burn the courthouse down and start killing.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:38 AM (T2V/1)

107 As I understand it IRS rules currently do not consider college scholarships taxable income. As for union dues, of course they will have to pay. And if they are not in a right to work State they will be forced to join and pay. Well, is it still a scholarship? If I am an employee of a university, why can't I be paid with a non-taxable scholarship? I can take a class.

Posted by: Gem at March 27, 2014 03:38 AM (zw+pb)

108 I'm already mourning in America.

Posted by: freaked at March 27, 2014 03:38 AM (JdEZJ)

109 I wish to say something in respect to last night ONT in which someone took offense to something I said and suggested I didn't understand about clinical depression. I say it here now in case someone else doesn't understand what I mean. I post these things about prayer and faith because I am a Christian. I am unapologetic about it, That doesn't mean that I think all Christians are great people or that the Christian church doesn't have a history of some very bad things including anti Semtism. I know that. It means that's what my worldview is based on. She didn't mention this but I bring it up. I don't post the hymns and prayers to beat people over the head by a two by four. It's too encourage myself and others here with a longer view of things and because i know there are Christians here (among others) who are struggling with all the bad news. Futhermore, the poster insisted that I couldn't know about clinical depression because I would know that happy thoughts don't help with it. Actually, I know that quite well. I've been dealing with clinical depression for 30 years and have been on almost every medication known to man. ;^) Sometimes they help. Sometimes they don't. If people are getting more and more depressed they need to go to the doctor to get medication if they can. I can't afford that now. I also suggested that if people are getting depressed-and I'm not talking about clinical depression-perhaps a break from this board would be in order. In addition I never suggested that if you had accepted Jesus as Lord you wouldn't have depression or problems, I have NEVER suggested that. My faith helps me cope. Other people's mileage may vary. In addition, the clip I posted from the radio program didn't suggest that either. The man who runs it suggest that you can be housebound or have various ailments and still feel the presence of the Lord which i know to be true in my life and the life of others. I wish none harm here and i'm sorry if my words were careless and hurt anyone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2014 03:39 AM (XyM/Y)

110 How ridiculous is the Leland Yee story?  If you pitched it to Michael Bay, he'd roll his eyes and say c'mon, that's ridiculous. 

Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 27, 2014 03:39 AM (Gk3SS)

111 So, you have safe odds. Thing is the market can crash at any time. Good and bad stocks go down and you lose money if you let it ride. But the insiders will make money. Good grief. You could lose your job tomorrow, too. Viewed through that lens, driving to work is gambling with pretty decent odds, while riding to work on public transportation is gambling with worse odds. And, yes, those whose job is to facilitate the buying/selling/trading of stocks will make money regardless of which way the stocks move. Film at 11. I get paid regardless of how my industry is doing, too. If it does badly enough, I'll lose my job. If it does well, I'll make more money. None of this is "gambling" except in the most asinine, legalistic definition of the word.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:39 AM (PYAXX)

112 President Obama admitting nuclear fear but cutting NYPD's radiation-detection funding confuses pols NYPD radiation detection program cut from $10.4 million to $4.7 million has politicians scratching their heads. No need to scratch head, obama is a fuckin idiot and liar.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:39 AM (t3UFN)

113 If you buy high dividend paying, stable, blue chip stocks and hold them it is not gambling. Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2014 07:35 AM (T2V/1) That's what I thought, too.

Posted by: Stockbroker passing the 20th floor going down, 1929 at March 27, 2014 03:39 AM (qWfmw)

114 109 So did Lady Lindsey vote for the state run lottery? Of all the things that need fixing he thinks this is so important?

Posted by: freaked at March 27, 2014 07:37 AM (JdEZJ)



He was in DC at the time and the State lottery was pushed through by the last Democrat Mayor we had.  It was what got him elected.  He ran on it.



But that has been long ago.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:40 AM (T2V/1)

115 Oops, that should be Democrat Governor, not Mayor.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 03:43 AM (T2V/1)

116 BTW, thanks ,Vic. I appreciate what you do. Now off to non-unionized salt mines. Although my commute is much more exciting since it has become a possibility that a train will try and hunt me down and kill me on the escalator.

Posted by: Gem at March 27, 2014 03:43 AM (zw+pb)

117 Mayor Cannon of Charlotte NC was arrested for corruption involving payoffs and whatever, and has resigned. They'll replace him in no time with another corrupt Dem. With all the northern liberals who've (sorry i'ts Gab'es thread, so wh'ove) moved down here for work I doubt we'll see another Republican mayor.

Posted by: waelse1 at March 27, 2014 03:44 AM (096AH)

118 Allen, I would not put a dime in this market.  It's floating on air.  The least little thing that comes out of left field can send it down.

Posted by: Case at March 27, 2014 03:45 AM (o00SF)

119 Anything that involves taking risks in hope of a gain is a gamble, BUT that does not mean it is gambling. Gambling is betting money on events of chance. There are gamblers who play the stock market; there are also investors.

Posted by: votermom at March 27, 2014 03:46 AM (GSIDW)

120 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2014 07:39 AM (XyM/Y)

I read what you wrote, and it was reasonable. "Prone to depression" is a bit different than "clinical depression," and it was obvious in your comment that you were talking about getting down in the dumps about the state of the country rather than the much more serious version.

And....your detractor seemed loaded for bear and was irrationally angry.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 27, 2014 03:46 AM (QFxY5)

121 wh'ove

Posted by: waelse1 at March 27, 2014 07:44 AM (096AH)

Hah!

So I'm not the only one!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 27, 2014 03:47 AM (QFxY5)

122 that a train will try and hunt me down and kill me on the escalator. Posted by: Gem at March 27, 2014 07:43 AM (zw+pb) I'm waiting......you'll get lazy....stop looking over your shoulder.... Yeah.

Posted by: The Acheson, Topeka and the Santa Fe at March 27, 2014 03:47 AM (qWfmw)

123 Graham's opposition to internet gambling is a sop to Sheldon Adelson and other casino owners. There's only one conservative position with regard to gambling: Citizens should be left free to gamble however they wish to do so. Period. If you believe gambling to be unwise, you're free to convince others of that--by any means other than government force. This is a no-brainer.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 03:48 AM (JQuNB)

124 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2014 07:39 AM (XyM/Y)

Fen. Read your post from last night earlier this AM. I found nothing out of line. You are always one the more respectful and positive folks at the HQ.

Thought comment regarding your post was out of line though. Anyone knowing your history here would not have been so harsh or used such language.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 03:49 AM (vVOWk)

125 Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2014 06:55 AM (T2V/1) Cornyn didn't have any serious challengers and won the primary easily.

Posted by: Boone at March 27, 2014 03:49 AM (tIyK2)

126 »I imagine that a small, though greater in the Bible Belt, number of Christian social conservatives still view gambling as a vice to be discouraged. -typo dynamofo Whether one believes drink, drugs, gambling, extramarital boinking, to be sinful or not, one may still hold that non-transgressive personal behaviors are not the government's business. When "transgressive" gets broadly defined, so that Society becomes personally interventionist, you get socialism, whether Marxist or "Moral Christian." Liberty and Responsibility - how do they work?!

Posted by: mindful webworker — Jesus made the best wine! at March 27, 2014 03:50 AM (OZjR5)

127 Government is not and can never be a substitute for conscience.

Posted by: votermom at March 27, 2014 03:51 AM (GSIDW)

128 Allen, I would not put a dime in this market. It's floating on air. The least little thing that comes out of left field can send it down. And? Look, if you're talking about dividend-paying blue chips, the actual cost of the stock itself is less important. You're not trying to "buy low, sell high" as much as you're looking for a dividend- which is usually defined as X dollars-per-share. Now, "buy low, sell high" is still generally good guidance, and your dividends will tend to be higher in good markets (because those tend to indicate that various industries are doing well), but it's very different from buying a stock specifically in order to sell it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 03:51 AM (PYAXX)

129 Posted by: waelse1 at March 27, 2014 07:44 AM (096AH)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 03:51 AM (vVOWk)

130 "There's only one conservative position with regard to gambling: Citizens should be left free to gamble however they wish to do so. Period."

Does that apply to people who receiving federal or state benefits like snap and tanf?

Posted by: GMB (et al) at March 27, 2014 03:51 AM (nkPV9)

131 Thx, CBD. I appreciate that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2014 03:51 AM (XyM/Y)

132 As has been said before lotteries are taxes on stupidity. Lord knows there's plenty of that to go around. I voted against it here in GA and will never play. Not because i 'm opposed to gambling but because I don't think the state should run it. I suppose Lindsey was able to vote as a citizen if the state put it up for a vote. I realize his position then could have Ben private but did he have anything to say about it, yay or nay?

Posted by: freaked at March 27, 2014 03:51 AM (JdEZJ)

133 @127, hav'ent checked but I'm sure Shakespeare mus'tve spelled it thusly.

Posted by: waelse1 at March 27, 2014 03:51 AM (096AH)

134 Regarding the state lotteries, I was against until someone said it was about time the po folks paid something. That did it for me.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 03:54 AM (vVOWk)

135 re: #5

Common Core covers math and English, not history or science content.

Posted by: Hal at March 27, 2014 03:54 AM (GskHy)

136 Whether one believes drink, drugs, gambling, extramarital boinking, to be sinful or not, one may still hold that non-transgressive personal behaviors are not the government's business. Precisely.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 03:54 AM (JQuNB)

137 That's a good way to look at it Golfman. I'll feel better now standing behind those idiots at the store.

Posted by: freaked at March 27, 2014 03:55 AM (JdEZJ)

138 Not because i 'm opposed to gambling but because I don't think the state should run it.

Posted by: freaked at March 27, 2014 07:51 AM (JdEZJ)

Exactly!

I don't give a rat's ass what anyone else does with his money, but the idea that the government is running a gambling scheme is outrageous.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 27, 2014 03:56 AM (QFxY5)

139 Hold the Bladerunner remake - it's time for Leland Yee, starring in Gunrunner!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 27, 2014 03:56 AM (HsTG8)

140 136 "There's only one conservative position with regard to gambling: Citizens should be left free to gamble however they wish to do so. Period." Does that apply to people who receiving federal or state benefits like snap and tanf? Posted by: GMB (et al) at March 27, 2014 07:51 AM (nkPV9) Yes.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 03:57 AM (JQuNB)

141 Me too, Freaked. I just SMH.

And the state has never gotten one dollar of my money via the lottery. I keep my gambling on the golf course.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 03:58 AM (vVOWk)

142 Here in GA the people who run the lottery are obscenely overpaid. But its all for the children so its OK.

Posted by: freaked at March 27, 2014 03:58 AM (JdEZJ)

143

Come on baby

Don't say maybe

I gotta know if your sweet love

Is gonna save me

Posted by: that 70s earworm at March 27, 2014 03:58 AM (3ZtZW)

144 When the government permits and encourages lottery tickets to be sold openly in a 'Stop n Shop' to poor people and seeks to discourage sale of tobacco products (and taxes them through the wazoo) in the same store, well Houston I gotta problem with that. Posted by: SE Pa Moron at March 27, 2014 07:56 AM (oGrEy) I'm opposed to state-run lotteries, too. The fact that our kleptocracy endorses state-run lotteries doesn't change the principles involved.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 03:59 AM (JQuNB)

145 Excuse me while I invest in this poker hand.  Yeah, that does sound silly.

Posted by: Case at March 27, 2014 03:59 AM (o00SF)

146 140 Regarding the state lotteries, I was against until someone said it was about time the po folks paid something. That did it for me. Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 07:54 AM (vVOWk) Yep. And almost every time I stop in a Lottery Sale Point, I see them playing fistfuls of the pick 'ems and scratch offs like it's St. Alphonso's Bingo Night.

Posted by: The Acheson, Topeka and the Santa Fe at March 27, 2014 03:59 AM (qWfmw)

147 In NC, room and board scholarships are taxed. But not tuition. Yet.

Posted by: NCKate at March 27, 2014 03:59 AM (ImOr8)

148 Whuups....sock be gone.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 03:59 AM (qWfmw)

149 You want evil SoCons to stay out of your bedrooms and away  from for lotteries but insist that they pay for them.

Interesting viewpoint there.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at March 27, 2014 04:00 AM (nkPV9)

150 From the IRS You must include in gross income amounts used for incidental expenses, such as room and board, travel, and optional equipment, and generally, amounts received as payments for teaching, research, or other services required as a condition for receiving the scholarship or fellowship grant. Also, you must include in income any part of the scholarship or fellowship that represents payments for services. unintended consequenses anyone?

Posted by: Tmitsss at March 27, 2014 04:01 AM (Pa9vP)

151 If college players want to be paid (most of them already are with alumni associations giving them all kinds of stuff and goodies) then go the whole enchilada. Morals clauses, dismissal for poor performance, piss tests, and no SCHOLARSHIP money. If you want to paid for your time Mr or Ms Athelete the people who have to try to educate your ignorant ass want to be paid too as do the dorms and chow halls. If they want to be educated, housed and fed they can pay for it. Come to think of it they can pay health insurance premiums for their injuries too. They want everything gratis PLUS cash.

Posted by: Lester at March 27, 2014 04:01 AM (2UPXV)

152 And don't get me started on the insipid commercials for the lottery. And the ones they run about gambling addiction that are paid for by the lottery.

Posted by: freaked at March 27, 2014 04:02 AM (JdEZJ)

153 64 In my state, once you hit a certain age, you can apply for some real estate tax relief which uses gambling money as the source.

I won't take it. I see it as income redistribution.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron

 

 

Think of it as re-redistribution. Where did the cash they get come from? They sure as hell don't have jobs to earn it.

Posted by: Gmac at March 27, 2014 04:02 AM (4pjhs)

154 8 pages in the paper on the charlotte mayor and nary a quote from the republican that lost the election in November. How do you feel losing an election against someone who shouldn't have been allowed to run?

Posted by: NCKate at March 27, 2014 04:02 AM (ImOr8)

155 I'm opposed to state-run lotteries, too. The fact that our kleptocracy endorses state-run lotteries doesn't change the principles involved. Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 07:59 AM (JQuNB) Here in Criminalinois, it was sold as, ....wait for it.... Education Funding! Uh-huh.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 04:03 AM (qWfmw)

156 In CA, the lottery was going to boost education.  As soon as the money started rolling in, the legislature cut funding for the schools to match the new revenue.  Net gain for the schools?  Nothing. 

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 27, 2014 04:03 AM (V70Uh)

157 At St Alfonso's pancake breakfast!

Posted by: Stuff Frank Zappa sang at March 27, 2014 04:05 AM (JdEZJ)

158 "Here in Criminalinois, it was sold as, ....wait for it.... Education Funding!

Uh-huh....."

I remember when 50 cents of every dollar profit was supposed to go to "education"

I guess thats not the case anymore.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at March 27, 2014 04:05 AM (nkPV9)

159 164 In CA, the lottery was going to boost education. As soon as the money started rolling in, the legislature cut funding for the schools to match the new revenue. Net gain for the schools? Nothing. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 27, 2014 08:03 AM (V70Uh) Hey, it shifts the tax burden to poor and/or stupid people. Win!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at March 27, 2014 04:05 AM (09o/X)

160 Just kidding though, I'm sure they just shifted the spending to some other Nice Program like Let's Stop Sharing Needles Serious You Guys.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at March 27, 2014 04:06 AM (09o/X)

161 Muslim security guard at the WTC? Oh boy!

Posted by: Citation X driver at March 27, 2014 04:06 AM (Sqmjr)

162

131: "Cornyn didn't have any serious challengers and won the primary easily."

 

Not by my hand. I voted for Stockman. Now I have to see if there will be a Libertarian candidate, or how odious the D will be.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at March 27, 2014 04:07 AM (v6cwT)

163 Over at bearing arms, a story on the 9th and 10th goblins taken out by a good citizen of Detroit. Go to read the comment from another Detroiter, seems the good folks aren't leaving and they also are not going to be bullied by the "bossy" thugs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/ol4s582

Posted by: traye at March 27, 2014 04:07 AM (5m4Yl)

164 HoboJerky, send me your email address if you want to get an invite to NoVAMoMee 2 Address in sig.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2014 04:07 AM (kb29R)

165 Fine example for the kids. Buy lottery tickets to support education. Hoo boy.

Posted by: freaked at March 27, 2014 04:07 AM (JdEZJ)

166 I remember when 50 cents of every dollar profit was supposed to go to "education" I guess thats not the case anymore. Posted by: GMB (et al) at March 27, 2014 08:05 AM (nkPV9) Something like, two years later, they were after more Education!!111!! Funding. Fucking ridiculous. But, of course, Chicago always gets it's way with Springpatch.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 27, 2014 04:08 AM (qWfmw)

167 Address in sig. Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2014 08:07 AM (kb29R) I got it, thanks! (guess I should confirm I'm coming...) I'm a bachelor this summer. The wife is heading to Chitown for an internship at UofC. Par-tay!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at March 27, 2014 04:08 AM (09o/X)

168 Exactly!

I don't give a rat's ass what anyone else does with his money, but the idea that the government is running a gambling scheme is outrageous.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 27, 2014 07:56 AM (QFxY5)



I've written this before but the lesson is fairly timeless:  When I did contract work for the feds at this time of the year a memo came out pointing out that Final Four brackets were gambling and not allowed on federal facilities; the same facilities that have convenience store type kiosks on every other floor with huge lines selling lottery tickets.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2014 04:09 AM (qh77P)

169 142 -

The problem  is, your equation doesn't end there.  On the other side of the equal  sign are all those poor downtrodden folks  whose lives have been ruined by their drinkin, druggin, gamblin and boinkin ways.

You know who ends up paying  for them?

Of course you do.

So  as long as I  am  required to  have a financial stake in taking care of them, I get to say how they live.  Your government requires that I do. 

Everything  else, all discussion of what the government should and shouldn't be doing is just fantasy. 

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 04:09 AM (BeSEI)

170 I looked for Cincinnati Riot on Wikipedia and found there are entries for 1792, 1829, 1836, 1841, 1853, 1855, 1884, 1935, 1967, 1968, and 2001. No wonder nobody knows about 1884. There was nothing out of the ordinary about rioting in Cincinnati.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 27, 2014 04:11 AM (QpzoP)

171 There's a scandal here in Carolina del Sur involving a democrat bundler named Breibart....

I'll fire a link when I switch to pc.

Maybe Vic has a link.




Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:11 AM (TE35l)

172 Got an email this morning saying I wasn't referred to the selecting official for a job in the office I work for doing the work that I already do. I guess I didn't lie well enough to make the cert list. I keep telling myself it's just God's plan for me, but man it's hard to not be hardcore cynical about the whole process. K, rant over.

Posted by: Mainah at March 27, 2014 04:12 AM (659DL)

173

The Gambling Cartel is taking another run at legalizing casino gambling here in Texas.  This time, the hook is  to let the faltering horse tracks  expand into doing it.  You see all the surrounding states have legalized casino gambling and are siphoning off Texas' gambler money, horse tracks being hard hit.  Haven't heard  about the dog tracks (yet).

 

"We gotta  do it to protect our horse tracks!!!"

 

 

I see  gambling as a cancer that eats away at society's resources,  slowly but inexorably, like basal cell skin cancer.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 27, 2014 04:12 AM (BAS5M)

174 178 BurtTC,

Medical Meth bay-bee

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:13 AM (TE35l)

175 Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 08:09 AM (BeSEI) If you support a government that can control the non-transgressive behaviors of "those" people, you support a government that can control the non-transgressive behaviors of yourself. And we're all facing just such a government.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 04:13 AM (JQuNB)

176 Everyone calm the hell down. Leland Yee thought he was helping run guns to North Africa. That's not in the U.S. and nothing bad every happens there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 27, 2014 04:14 AM (659DL)

177 Mayors of Charlottesville, Trenton, and New Orleans are in jail or going to jail. Mayor Filner is spanking the monkey, in comm. service.

Posted by: redenzo at March 27, 2014 04:14 AM (WCnJW)

178 Sven.  From The State. Ugh.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mcrljsr

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 04:14 AM (vVOWk)

179 We'll know the government is serious when they require people to show a health insurance card before buying lottery tickets (or tobacco products, or alcohol, etc.) Otherwise Obamacare is really just a redistribution scheme. But mainly the latter.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 27, 2014 04:15 AM (QpzoP)

180 184 -

Yes?  And?

I'm not  talking about what should be, I'm talking about what is. 

We can fantasize all we want.   It doesn't change anything. 

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 04:15 AM (BeSEI)

181 That pic on Drudge of that grinningsonofacommiebitch with the Pope made me ill. I'm going to take a dump and a shower.

Posted by: freaked at March 27, 2014 04:15 AM (JdEZJ)

182 183 -

I'm holding out for research on the human use of medical horse tranquilizers. 

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 04:16 AM (BeSEI)

183 Leland Yee thought he was helping run guns to North Africa. That's not in the U.S. and nothing bad every happens there. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 27, 2014 08:14 AM (659DL) I beg to differ.

Posted by: MGEN Lloyd Fredenhall at March 27, 2014 04:16 AM (qWfmw)

184 re gambling, vice laws, etc. 57% of cig sales in NYC are black mkt. All "vice" taxes and "blue" laws are equivalent to prohibition, insofar as government is moralizing. Flat sales tax on all sales taxable items, booze, pot, coke, gasoline, whatever, is the closest thing to a fair tax. Assumes govt is not IN the business of booze, drugs, gambling....

Posted by: mindful webworker — Jesus made the best wine! at March 27, 2014 04:16 AM (OZjR5)

185 180  Maybe Vic has a link.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 08:11 AM (TE35l)


The State has been covering that story for a while now.  It being the State I figured 90% of it was hype.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 04:16 AM (T2V/1)

186 “The citizens are protecting their homes and their property and their families, and they are well within their rights to do that.”

Lesson learned. Only after Detroit has hit rock bottom.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at March 27, 2014 04:16 AM (nkPV9)

187 If college players want to be paid (most of them already are with alumni associations giving them all kinds of stuff and goodies) then go the whole enchilada. Morals clauses, dismissal for poor performance, piss tests, and no SCHOLARSHIP money. If you want to paid for your time Mr or Ms Athelete the people who have to try to educate your ignorant ass want to be paid too as do the dorms and chow halls. If they want to be educated, housed and fed they can pay for it. Come to think of it they can pay health insurance premiums for their injuries too. They want everything gratis PLUS cash. Posted by: Lester at March 27, 2014 08:01 AM (2UPXV) My thoughts exactly.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 27, 2014 04:17 AM (zT0DN)

188 187 Golfman in NC,

Yeah read that at the evil W on Forest drive here in Columbia....

Of course it was another round of "name that party"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:17 AM (TE35l)

189 Re: MAHAN incident - the Sailor who died, MA2 Mark Mayo, placed himself between the shooter and the POOW who was disarmed. He's a hero.

Apparently the shooter parked his truck and walked onboard. I see changes to procedures to get on the piers here at Norfolk Naval Station, and it's probably going to be a pain in my ass. I'm a Navy contractor who visits ships every week.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at March 27, 2014 04:17 AM (Nk6GS)

190 89 184 - Yes? And? I'm not talking about what should be, I'm talking about what is. We can fantasize all we want. It doesn't change anything. Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 08:15 AM (BeSEI) Don't complain when our Marxist overlords deign to tell you how to worship, then.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 04:17 AM (JQuNB)

191 Re: MAHAN incident - the Sailor who died, MA2 Mark Mayo, placed himself between the shooter and the POOW who was disarmed. He's a hero. Apparently the shooter parked his truck and walked onboard. I see changes to procedures to get on the piers here at Norfolk Naval Station, and it's probably going to be a pain in my ass. I'm a Navy contractor who visits ships every week. Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at March 27, 2014 08:17 AM (Nk6GS) I'll be down in Portsmouth next week. We'll see what the security is like then

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 04:18 AM (t3UFN)

192 85 As I understand it IRS rules currently do not consider college scholarships taxable income.

Here's a thought on that...

If college scholarships are not taxable income, BUT athletes on scholarships are considered employees, does that mean schools are going to have to start paying their players at least minimum wage- in addition to their scholarships? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 07:23 AM (PYAXX


We regret to inform you that due to the increasing costs of athletics, our tuition rates will be raised 25% for the next 10 years

Posted by: Higher Ed at March 27, 2014 04:19 AM (M+evy)

193 I think I can translate into plain English what Harrison means.

"Hey you evil ass SoCons. STFU and give up your money"

Would that be the gist of the argument?

Posted by: GMB (et al) at March 27, 2014 04:19 AM (nkPV9)

194 Fenelon, I make it a point to read your posts whenever I can because you are obviously non-judgmental and are only trying to offer good things to those that want to hear them! I think your criticism came from someone that was in a very bad place at the time and should be considered in that light.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2014 04:19 AM (o3MSL)

195 199 Harrison Bergeron,

Yes because ingestion of recreational intoxicants is just like spiritual health.

Y'know fuck it I don't care anymore.

The UK is using dead babies to heat hospitals.

I'm just about to the point if the doc tells me I have a year I'll be happy about leaving.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:21 AM (TE35l)

196 202 GMB,

Yup pretty much, my conscience must be held hostage to FSA's "drank" ny-quil fizzy or something.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:23 AM (TE35l)

197 202 I think I can translate into plain English what Harrison means. "Hey you evil ass SoCons. STFU and give up your money" Would that be the gist of the argument? Posted by: GMB (et al) at March 27, 2014 08:19 AM (nkPV9) Not at all. In most respects I'm socially conservative. I recognize that my freedom depends on a limited government. That limited government necessarily requires that others be left free to make choices with which I disagree.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 04:23 AM (JQuNB)

198 You see all the surrounding states have legalized casino gambling and are siphoning off Texas' gambler money, horse tracks being hard hit. Haven't heard about the dog tracks (yet). Go to WinStar, Choctaw & Shreveport. Walk the parking lots. 7 out of 10 cars have Texas plates. Ton of money headed north & east.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 04:23 AM (ix+5k)

199

I think it is interesting that these Democrat scandals are popping up now.  Usually investigations into bribery and corruption cases take months if not a year or two to complete and all of these are coming to fruition now.  Add in the Pennsylvania AG trying to silence a newspaper that exposed her quashing an investigation and there are some real disasters with a 'D' out there for the Donkey Party.

 

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 27, 2014 04:23 AM (hLRSq)

200 According to Levin, Johnny Boehner has cited a scheduling conflict which won't allow him to attend the Steve LaTourette RINOpalooza this weekend but that Weasel Cantor, the Forrest Gump of the House, and that Kevin McCarthy dickhole will be present.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2014 04:23 AM (qh77P)

201 'Krokodil' testing on humans. Participants get an extra $20 on their EBT. Sign up today! Mornin' all

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2014 04:23 AM (fWAjv)

202 ... and... Folks sometimes argue one socialist excuse to support another, usually something like, can't legalize drugs because socialized medicine. Yes, it perforce must all hang together in a free society. You should be free to gamble, and I should be free not to help you out when you go broke. Socialism removes both liberty and its flip side, responsibility.

Posted by: mindful webworker — Jesus made the best wine! at March 27, 2014 04:24 AM (OZjR5)

203 11 Guilty as sin,free as a bird.... That's just the way I roll... Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 27, 2014 06:53 AM (GjPnA) That was Bill Ayers, wasn't it?

Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2014 04:24 AM (sdi6R)

204 We regret to inform you that due to the increasing costs of athletics, our tuition rates will be raised 25% for the next 10 years Posted by: Higher Ed at March 27, 2014 08:19 AM (M+evy) Given that the revenue from football and basketball fund all the other sports and all the scholarships, this will be the death knell for many, many sports. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth and, hopefully, recriminations against the sports that caused it.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 27, 2014 04:24 AM (zT0DN)

205 Hey, I'm all for people doing what they want to with their money.  It is theirs.  If someone wants to invest in a lottery ticket 'cause they think they will be the next big winner, fine.  If someone wants to invest in the market 'cause they have faith in it, great.  But in this place in time with a government I have no faith in and a world that spews more crazy everyday I don't think I'm going to gamble my money away.  I'm too old to start over. 

Posted by: Case at March 27, 2014 04:25 AM (o00SF)

206 206 Harrison Bergeron,

Subsidized by the community chest HB.

I am if anything more "legalize it!" than Ace et al...


BUT we were supposed to get the feds out of the free shit biz first....

Oddly the order seems fucked up.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:25 AM (TE35l)

207

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 07:05 AM (PYAXX)

 

Graham is running state-wide in South Carolina, not nationally.  He is going to do what he thinks will appeal to the electorate that actually gets to vote for him.  My opinion on internet gambling is immaterial because I live in Michigan.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 27, 2014 04:26 AM (hLRSq)

208 Give up the $$$$$$$ but keep your opinions to yourself. Committee chairmanships are stake here!!!!

Posted by: GMB (et al) House of the Evil Socail Conservative. at March 27, 2014 04:27 AM (nkPV9)

209 Couldn't the State redirect the lottery proceeds to subsidize birth control products?

Posted by: S. Fluke (Cum Bucket) at March 27, 2014 04:27 AM (si68n)

210 Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 27, 2014 08:07 AM (kb29R) You may have to consider getting a bigger mead hall!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2014 04:28 AM (o3MSL)

211 >>You see all the surrounding states have legalized casino gambling and are siphoning off Texas' gambler money, *Waves from Margaritaville across the border* When we were moving here from Del Rio, my mailman knew the area because he'd come to gamble here.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 27, 2014 04:28 AM (SUKHu)

212 I think it is interesting that these Democrat scandals are popping up now. Usually investigations into bribery and corruption cases take months if not a year or two to complete and all of these are coming to fruition now. Add in the Pennsylvania AG trying to silence a newspaper that exposed her quashing an investigation and there are some real disasters with a 'D' out there for the Donkey Party. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 27, 2014 08:23 AM (hLRSq) There is still a double standard out there. Our Lite Governor resigned a while back over some campaign finance issues. He claimed he didn't understand the laws fully and misused some money (about $11k which he paid back). He was summarily run out of office on a rail (both sides were up in his business about it). Our current AG was caught doing the pickle tickle with a lawyer (who, by the way, had sued the state while this was going on). His punishment: he decided to withdraw from the governor's race but stay in office. Since then, the lawyer has been arrested for theft, and a couple of days ago, manslaughter for a murder that happened while she was bumping uglies with the AG. Notably missing from the coverage has been the AG's name.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 27, 2014 04:29 AM (zT0DN)

213 That was Bill Ayers, wasn't it? Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2014 08:24 AM (sdi6R) That's just a guy in the neighborhood Bill Ayres to you!

Posted by: Barky O at March 27, 2014 04:30 AM (o3MSL)

214 The FBI started the Charlotte investigation in 2010.

Posted by: NCKate at March 27, 2014 04:30 AM (ImOr8)

215 Well, Harrison. As long as my tax dollars are used to subsidize gambling and other social ills, you will get my opinion right along with my tax dollars.

Posted by: GMB (et al) House of the Evil Social Conservative. at March 27, 2014 04:30 AM (nkPV9)

216 All "vice" taxes and "blue" laws are equivalent to prohibition, insofar as government is moralizing. Flat sales tax on all sales taxable items, booze, pot, coke, gasoline, whatever, is the closest thing to a fair tax. Assumes govt is not IN the business of booze, drugs, gambling.... Posted by: mindful webworker — Jesus made the best wine! at March 27, 2014 08:16 AM (OZjR5) Agreed. Universal Basic Income imo, and in many economists positions, would be the best if we are forced to have a welfare state. For small govt folk, then we can at least argue the price tag, without having to moralize about people's behavior. They gamble away their money? tough shit.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at March 27, 2014 04:30 AM (09o/X)

217 US mandates all males wear 'mom-jeans' and bicycle helmets. http://tinyurl.com/os4p4fo North Korea has issued guidelines requiring all men to wear their hair just like their supreme leader, Kim Jong-un, a South Korean news outlet has reported. The state-ordered “fashion guidelines” were introduced in the capital Pyongyang about two weeks ago and are now being rolled out across the country, the Korea Times reported. “Our leader’s haircut is very particular, if you will,” one source told Radio Free Asia, BBCreported. “It doesn’t always go with everyone since everyone has different face and head shapes.” A North Korean now living in China told the station that the look is unpopular where he lives because it resembles that of Chinese smugglers.

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2014 04:31 AM (fWAjv)

218 209 According to Levin, Johnny Boehner has cited a scheduling conflict which won't allow him to attend the Steve LaTourette RINOpalooza this weekend but that Weasel Cantor, the Forrest Gump of the House, and that Kevin McCarthy dickhole will be present.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2014 08:23 AM (qh77P)



Is that the one down in FL where they are going to coordinate killing conservatives?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 04:31 AM (T2V/1)

219 224 Well, Harrison. As long as my tax dollars are used to subsidize gambling and other social ills, you will get my opinion right along with my tax dollars. Posted by: GMB (et al) House of the Evil Social Conservative. at March 27, 2014 08:30 AM (nkPV9) I fully support your freedom to express your opinions, as I've indicated. I oppose state sponsorship of gambling, as I've also indicated.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 04:32 AM (JQuNB)

220 TACOMA, WASH. — As Washington prepares to open its first retail marijuana stores in the next few months, tens of thousands of military service members have been warned not to shop in any of them. They face criminal charges and career-ending discipline if caught with a substance still banned by the federal government. “Our soldiers understand what’s legal,” Lt. Gen. Stephen Lanza, the senior Army officer at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, said in an interview last week. “From our perspective, marijuana or any type of illegal drug is something that’s not tolerated.” The prohibition isn’t limited to active-duty service members. Shortly after state voters passed an initiative legalizing marijuana in 2012, Washington’s National Guard commander sought to clear up any misunderstandings by citizen soldiers who might have questions about the law. “Use of marijuana is illegal under federal law and Department of Defense policy,” Maj. Gen. Bret Daugherty wrote in a December 2012 memo. “Recent passage of Initiative 502 legalizing marijuana under Washington state law does not change this policy. All soldiers and airmen are hereby ordered not to possess or use marijuana at any time.” An omen of things to come

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 04:32 AM (t3UFN)

221 We demand that these Koch Brothers answer for these phony baloney things we published about them, which we have admitted were phony. But they still must answer for them. Koch Brothers = Emmanuel Goldstein

Posted by: Citizen X at March 27, 2014 04:32 AM (7ObY1)

222 Hamas is taking another step towards the full implementation of strict Islamic Sharia law in Gaza, and is planning to introduce a penalty of lashes for certain criminal offenses. Nafez Al-Madhoun, the secretary of HamasÂ’s parliament in Gaza, said on Tuesday that the government is working on passing a new law pertaining to lashes. Speaking in an interview with a local newspaper, Madhoun said that the provisions of the new law will include a range of between 80 lashes for major offenses to 20 lashes for minor crimes. Madhoun further explained that a change in the Penal Code to include lashes is required, in light of the reality where the current law does not deter criminals, who view the Gaza prisons as a place for a vacation. He also noted that the lashes can accumulate depending on the number of offenses of which the defendant was convicted in court. If the convicted criminalÂ’s life may be in danger due to the lashes, they may be done in several batches. Hamas has enforced a stringent interpretation of Islamic law in Gaza since violently taking power there in 2007. hey I got an idea, let's give em a State. Hey kerry what ya up to?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 04:33 AM (t3UFN)

223 Democrats are having a banner week when it comes to being arrested and charged with corruption. See here for the cases just from yesterday. Here's the one from Sunday's papers. The case against Leland Yee sounds like it was stolen from a Hollywood blockbuster. Leland - anti-gun gun trafficker Scarborough - fraud Cannon - SCOAMF thuggery and; Reid gifting money to his "granddaughter" in 2012 and 2013 and; Farnham busted for child porn - "well liked" Sick mofo party.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 27, 2014 04:34 AM (IXrOn)

224 Concerning the lotteries... People are going to gamble no matter what. The only question after accepting that fact is who is going to make the money from it? The choice is between the government and the mafia. True, the mafia would run it more efficiently, but in the end, most people will agree the government is the better provider. For the poor, the lottery gives them hope. It doesn't matter that the odds are astronomical, it's a chance that didn't have before.

Posted by: jwest at March 27, 2014 04:35 AM (u2a4R)

225 Anyone listen to Levin yesterday? Who was he quoting in the first 15 minutes or so of his show. About 'How I would destroy America.' It was from 10 or so years ago but spot on.

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2014 04:36 AM (fWAjv)

226 Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 08:32 AM (JQuNB)

Well then, ahem, let me be clear, ahem, I have issued a sternly worded letter to myself and signed it with my pen. Ahem, in the event, let me be clear again, that I do not receive that letter, I shall, ahem, let me be clear, call my self on my phone, ahem, let me be clear, this issue has been settled,ahem to the satisfaction of, ahem, let me be clear, both partys.


You may applaud now, it's ok.

Posted by: GMB (et al) House of the Evil Social Conservative. at March 27, 2014 04:36 AM (nkPV9)

227 Greetings, pixel people. So, the Pope is going to perform an exorcism on TFG? No? Crap... SNAFU, y'all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 27, 2014 04:38 AM (0HooB)

228 So...let's say I'm North Korean and I am follically challenged. Lace wig?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 27, 2014 04:38 AM (659DL)

229 For the poor, the lottery gives them hope. It doesn't matter that the odds are astronomical, it's a chance that didn't have before. Posted by: jwest at March 27, 2014 08:35 AM (u2a4R) More practically, it's going to be impossible to ban, given the internet. Bitcoin-like services mean it's *impossible* to stop. No bank account to freeze. Heck, I've played a little dice online using it. They have provably fair betting at 1% house odds, where the casino is crowd-banked. Very interesting experiments in freedom.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at March 27, 2014 04:38 AM (09o/X)

230 Agreed. Universal Basic Income imo, and in many economists positions, would be the best if we are forced to have a welfare state. For small govt folk, then we can at least argue the price tag, without having to moralize about people's behavior. They gamble away their money? tough shit. Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at March 27, 2014 08:30 AM (09o/X) This was Milton Friedman's position, via a negative income tax.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at March 27, 2014 04:38 AM (JQuNB)

231 Hey, on that Drudge headline photo...
Is Barky giving the Pope a copy of the Chairman's Little Red Book?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2014 04:39 AM (si68n)

232 Found it. Former Democrat Governor Dick Lamm. http://tinyurl.com/222prh I have a plan to destroy America by Richard D. Lamm I have a secret plan to destroy America. If you believe, as many do, that America is too smug, too white bread, too self-satisfied, too rich, let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. History shows that nations are more fragile than their citizens think. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and they all fall, and that “an autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.” Here is my plan:

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2014 04:40 AM (fWAjv)

233 237 So...let's say I'm North Korean and I am follically challenged. Lace wig? Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 27, 2014 08:38 AM (659DL) Camps.

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2014 04:41 AM (fWAjv)

234 Hey I got a great idea, lets give em a State?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 07:24 AM (t3UFN)


Kerry already fixed this when he said that he didn't think it was really necessary anymore that the pals recognize Israel's right to exist before peace negotiations.  So... no problem really. 

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 27, 2014 04:43 AM (BZAd3)

235 We demand that these Koch Brothers answer for these phony baloney things we published about them, which we have admitted were phony. But they still must answer for them. Koch Brothers = Emmanuel Goldstein Posted by: Citizen X at March 27, 2014 08:32 AM (7ObY1) I saw an ad last night linking the Koch Brothers to Tillis. The link was, so far as I could tell from the ad, OMG KOCH BROTHERS TILLIS TILLIS KOCH BROTHERS. No actual, you know, link or anything was mentioned. I do give points to the group for pronouncing the Koch Brothers name correctly.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 27, 2014 04:43 AM (mf5HN)

236 So...let's say I'm North Korean and I am follically challenged. Lace wig? Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 27, 2014 08:38 AM (659DL) Camps. Mortar or dogs.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 04:43 AM (ix+5k)

237 Nice Deb's related article - http://tinyurl.com/mr2oqup


The Horrendous Criminal Enterprise Known as the Democratic Party

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 27, 2014 04:44 AM (BZAd3)

238 Is that the one down in FL where they are going to coordinate killing conservatives?

Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2014 08:31 AM (T2V/1)



Yes the one that was on the sidebar which Red State reported.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2014 04:47 AM (qh77P)

239 FFS cultists. Give it a damn rest. http://tinyurl.com/l782kw2 The OFA Store Grand Opening Get your official 'Organizer in Training' onesie.

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2014 04:47 AM (fWAjv)

240 TFG told us years ago that he admires the Chinese model of government. That's what he's aiming for, an "efficient dictatorship". He will fail at that, but that's where this is all headed.

Posted by: MTF at March 27, 2014 04:48 AM (qNzkX)

241 I do give points to the group for pronouncing the Koch Brothers name correctly.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 27, 2014 08:43 AM (mf5HN)


Exactly how IS it pronounced? If they're the nexus of evil that the left says they are I should at least be able to invoke them correctly while I sacrifice the virgin to them.

Posted by: joncelli at March 27, 2014 04:49 AM (RD7QR)

242 247  Yes the one that was on the sidebar which Red State reported.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2014 08:47 AM (qh77P)


So that pretty much corroborates the Red State story.  Piss on the Republican Party.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 04:50 AM (T2V/1)

243 So... no problem really.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 27, 2014 08:43 AM (BZAd3)

The only real problem is that we pesky Jews won't docilely line up  for the gas chambers.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 27, 2014 04:50 AM (QFxY5)

244 Exactly how IS it pronounced? If they're the nexus of evil that the left says they are I should at least be able to invoke them correctly while I sacrifice the virgin to them. Posted by: joncelli at March 27, 2014 08:49 AM (RD7QR) It's Coke not Cock. (Yes, yes, I know I left that one hanging over the plate)

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 27, 2014 04:52 AM (mf5HN)

245 Real Feel: 10°

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 04:54 AM (nfBpn)

246 Exactly how IS it pronounced? If they're the nexus of evil that the left says they are I should at least be able to invoke them correctly while I sacrifice the virgin to them. You found a virgin? Seriously, it'd be nice if someone on our side would counter the Left's obsession with the Koch's with some questions about Soros.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 27, 2014 04:54 AM (0HooB)

247

Concerning the lotteries...

People are going to gamble no matter what. The only question after accepting that fact is who is going to make the money from it?

The choice is between the government and the mafia.

True, the mafia would run it more efficiently, but in the end, most people will agree the government is the better provider.

For the poor, the lottery gives them hope. It doesn't matter that the odds are astronomical, it's a chance that didn't have before.

 

 

I disagree with this rationalization.  Replace the words  lottery and gambling with, prostitution,  white slavery, child sex rings, loansharking, dogfighting, cockfighting, . . .

 

 

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 27, 2014 04:54 AM (BAS5M)

248 Spengler is worried about a Russian/Chinese axis of cooperation developing, and thinks TFG is soft on Putin so as to not drive him into the arms of the ChiComs. I don't know if that's the case but I do know the Progressives have hated Reagan for years and so they're about to undo his two greatest achievements: ending the Cold War and restarting the American economy.

Posted by: MTF at March 27, 2014 04:54 AM (+NYjg)

249 254
Real Feel: 10°

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 08:54 AM (nfBpn)


Al Gore in town?

Posted by: joncelli at March 27, 2014 04:54 AM (RD7QR)

250 For some reason, as I scrolled through this morning's posts, I realized (yet again) how well and truly the progs/commies have kcufed the rest of us. I was beginning to envy my parents who only had to live through the Depression, FDR, WW II, commies in the government, and the potential threat of nuclear war. Then it hit me, I am living through our longest recession (even with cooked books), TFG, very WW-like events in Europe, commies in the entire government, and the very real threat of nuclear events within the US. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose, non?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2014 04:54 AM (o3MSL)

251 Hmm, No MP4 yet this morning. I'll have to make a note in his performance evaluation file.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at March 27, 2014 04:55 AM (+/C3g)

252 More taxpayer punishment for official shitty behavior by school thugs.


A Minnesota school district has agreed to pay $70,000 to settle a lawsuit that claimed school officials violated a student's constitutional rights by viewing her Facebook and email accounts without permission.


This should come out of the pocket of the school system administrator and their boss who approved this shit.  And guess where the lion's share of the money will go.  If you said the ACLU you would be correct.


http://tinyurl.com/lexx6xj



Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 04:55 AM (T2V/1)

253 257 Spengler is worried about a Russian/Chinese axis of cooperation developing, and thinks TFG is soft on Putin so as to not drive him into the arms of the ChiComs. I don't know if that's the case but I do know the Progressives have hated Reagan for years and so they're about to undo his two greatest achievements: ending the Cold War and restarting the American economy.

Posted by: MTF at March 27, 2014 08:54 AM (+NYjg)


If the Chinese go for a Spratley (or, God forbid, Taiwan) while the Russians go for, say, Estonia we would be in a world of hurt.

Posted by: joncelli at March 27, 2014 04:56 AM (RD7QR)

254 The spot price (not futures speculation-driven) of US Foodstuffs is the best performing asset in 2014 - up a staggering 19%... http://goo.gl/4dBnAa Don't believe the haters. Inflation is well under control.

Posted by: Janet Yellen at March 27, 2014 04:56 AM (JQuNB)

255 So that pretty much corroborates the Red State story. Piss on the Republican Party. Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2014 08:50 AM (T2V/1) Now in comic format http://tinyurl.com/lbt53h6

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2014 04:56 AM (fWAjv)

256 Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose, non? All the same we take our chances Laughed at by time Tricked by circumstances

Posted by: Citizen X at March 27, 2014 04:57 AM (7ObY1)

257 oh I get it. You guys are saving a little vim and vinegar for the news dump thread.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 04:57 AM (nfBpn)

258 Trey Gowdy: More contempt charges since IRS doesn't fear congress. 


http://tinyurl.com/myzke6b


I'm sorry, but at this point, this sounds to me like Obama talking the Russians.  Enough talk.  Let's see a little action.  Not one scandal that to me are still scandals, have been run to ground.  None of them probably ever will.  Right now, they look an awful lot like, "Hey!  Look and me!  See how offended I am?  I'm offended for you!"

Do something.  Then I'll believe you.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 27, 2014 04:57 AM (BZAd3)

259

Apparently Harry Reid called the Koch brothers "un-American", yesterday.  On Morning Joe this morning, Scarborough tried to get Chuckie Shumer to disassociate himself from that. 

 

Chuckie squirmed, said that Koch charities were good, but that specific ads they funded are in fact un-American.  Something about how small government would cut NIH, so un-American. 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 27, 2014 04:57 AM (JtwS4)

260 Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose, non? Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2014 08:54 AM (o3MSL) You want Edith Piaf. You'll take Carla Bruni. You get Miley Cyrus.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 27, 2014 04:58 AM (mf5HN)

261 Inflation is well under control. Posted by: Janet Yellen at March 27, 2014 08:56 AM (JQuNB) Can you imagine how the government would be tweaking these figures if they weren't the most transparent administration evah?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2014 04:58 AM (o3MSL)

262 Sun is high, no clouds. And it's still cold as Hell on this Spring morning.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 04:58 AM (nfBpn)

263 Democrooks

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at March 27, 2014 04:58 AM (vFmT2)

264 I disagree with this rationalization. Replace the words lottery and gambling with, prostitution, white slavery, child sex rings, loansharking, dogfighting, cockfighting, . . . Posted by: Count de Monet at March 27, 2014 08:54 AM (BAS5M) Stick to activities that are voluntary, and I'd agree with it I have wondered though, would it be possible to have a self-blacklist for casinos? Say, I'm a gambling addict. I know it. Can I just blacklist myself for X years or life?

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at March 27, 2014 04:59 AM (09o/X)

265 Perusing the Charlotte Mayor stories, I think I get it now. He's been Mayor for less than two years, investigation has been going for four years. The guy he replaced, Fox, went to Obama's Transportation Dept. The guy who got arrested, Cannon, serves on one of Obama's "advisory boards" or some such shit.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 04:59 AM (ZshNr)

266 Dump Up

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 27, 2014 04:59 AM (BAS5M)

267 268 Apparently Harry Reid called the Koch brothers "un-American", yesterday. On Morning Joe this morning, Scarborough tried to get Chuckie Shumer to disassociate himself from that. And Zsa Zsa Huffington pretty much answered the same question the same way. Why, it's almost as if the responses were coordinated.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 27, 2014 04:59 AM (7ObY1)

268 Don't believe the haters. Inflation is well under control.

Posted by: Janet Yellen at March 27, 2014 08:56 AM (JQuNB)


Like a well oiled machine.  Helping the middle class by making them poor so they can get food stamps.  Ingenious.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 27, 2014 04:59 AM (BZAd3)

269 If they're the nexus of evil that the left says they are I should at least be able to invoke them correctly while I sacrifice the virgin to them. Pronounced "Coke" Definitely not "Cock." They get testy about that.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 27, 2014 05:00 AM (PYAXX)

270 Dan Riehl retweets a HuffPo story about a naked man on a tricycle. And then the story gets weird... I didn't click the link, just saw the summary.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 27, 2014 05:00 AM (SUKHu)

271 274 Elected in November 2013.

Posted by: NCKate at March 27, 2014 05:01 AM (ImOr8)

272 Posted by: joncelli at March 27, 2014 08:56 AM (RD7QR) ============================ No wonder the President looks like he hasn't slept in a week. The only solution is to announce a big increase in Defense R&D, a restoration of cuts to active duty levels and installation of missile defense in Poland and the Czech Republic-- all things he has undone in his tenure. Entitlements will have to come down. TFG won't like any of that, but what choice does he have?

Posted by: MTF at March 27, 2014 05:02 AM (74T7W)

273 Posted a story on a dead thread AND Ben has the same story in the Dump. Takes talent...

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 27, 2014 05:02 AM (SUKHu)

274 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 27, 2014 08:58 AM (mf5HN) Sort of like the AoS web page: I want a modern web page in #twoweeks; I'd take an HTML3 compliant page; I'll get Pixy.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2014 05:03 AM (o3MSL)

275 If we got rid of all of the corrupt politicians in America we wouldn't have any politicians.

Posted by: MrRedNeckParadise at March 27, 2014 05:03 AM (q6kaG)

276 Less than me year? That's even better. What kind of investigation was this? Was he even the original target?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 05:03 AM (ZshNr)

277 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 27, 2014 08:58 AM (mf5HN)

Your hierarchy is a bit flawed.

I present this as proof:

http://tinyurl.com/ltzu2ow

NSFW

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 27, 2014 05:04 AM (QFxY5)

278 So that pretty much corroborates the Red State story. Piss on the Republican Party.

Posted by: Vic at March 27, 2014 08:50 AM (T2V/1)



I was positive it was a legit story because one of Erickson's strong points is that he usually doesn't report on spurious rumors.  I think Boehner begging off of it is a positive occurrence because it means he got some pushback on it and is concerned with his re-election prospects and/or just of pissing off the base.  Cantor is just a lost cause.  For somebody who claimed to be a "conservative" five years ago, he's completely lost what little mind he has over amnesty to the point where I wonder if his entire career has been a lie.  I don't know enough about Kevin McCarthy other than Levin ridicules him constantly.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 27, 2014 05:04 AM (qh77P)

279 mangled post, meant "one year". Stupid tablet.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 05:04 AM (ZshNr)

280 Actually just found a decent Mayor Cannon story in the dead tree local paper. I checked there last because it usually blows. Cannon has quite a career, a lifetime politician, youngest City Councilor in Charlotte history. Totally busted, by the way. The quotes from officials don't even have the "allegedly-s" you so often see.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 05:08 AM (ZshNr)

281 Curiosity got the better of me, and I checked the ONT for FenelonSpoke's exchange. Yeah, perception definitely seems to have been being filtered in the reply you got, FS. Not your doing. Worst thing about mis-apprehending is that the perception seems real, and is therefore difficult to correct. I ... deal with this almost daily in RL. more words of mine Perceptual Pareidolia link in nic

Posted by: mindful webworker — in case of ire, break glass at March 27, 2014 05:09 AM (CQzvT)

282 Chuckie squirmed, said that Koch charities were good, but that specific ads they funded are in fact un-American. Something about how small government would cut NIH, so un-American. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 27, 2014 08:57 AM (JtwS4) Any spending or regulation cuts are UNAMERICAN YOU TERORIST

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at March 27, 2014 05:11 AM (09o/X)

283 ... and ... »» Replace the words lottery and gambling with, prostitution, white slavery, child sex rings, loansharking, dogfighting, cockfighting, . . . - Count de Monet Fools also often argue with a false dilemma conflating personal behavior with interpersonal transgression. Short n sweet version, 'cause its getting late:: Replace drinking a beer with doing murder; doesn't make them equivalent.

Posted by: mindful webworker — in case of ire, break glass at March 27, 2014 05:20 AM (CQzvT)

284 www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.579182

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 27, 2014 05:23 AM (hn5v5)

285 EXCUSE ME, AUTOINCORRECT!! FOLKS Not fools in previous comment. That was a bad one.

Posted by: mindful webworker — in case of ire, break glass at March 27, 2014 05:24 AM (CQzvT)

286 thank goodness the horde has already moved on....

Posted by: mindful webworker — in case of ire, break glass at March 27, 2014 05:24 AM (CQzvT)

287 That's what I thought, too. Posted by: Stockbroker passing the 20th floor going down, 1929 at March 27, 2014 07:39 AM (qWfmw) -------- This made me chuckle pretty good. It's fucked up but it's funny.

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 27, 2014 05:25 AM (k4Znx)

288 I'll be down in Portsmouth next week. We'll see what the security is like then Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 08:18 AM (t3UFN) I'll be at pier 2 (the next pier over) at 0530 Monday. It'll be fun.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at March 27, 2014 05:29 AM (Nk6GS)

289 Johnny why isn't your paper ready to turn in? The Koch Brothers ate it. Or so says Senator Reid.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 27, 2014 05:30 AM (HVff2)

290 Delurking here with a message for Sven....I am worried about you. I insist that you get that sleep study done that you mentioned a couple of days ago. You said that you are physically tired and mentally exhausted. The Cpap machine may just be the lifesaver you need. I am not a great sleeper myself, so I am praying for you in the middle of the night. Specifically, I am praying for our heavenly father to show himself real to you. To bless you. To give you strength and peace. I will continue to do so. Will be waiting for a report about the sleep study.

Posted by: Texas Ette in training at March 27, 2014 05:44 AM (zvxqj)

291 And let me add this. I believed I've touched on it before. Not only do I have a huge problem with the prosperity Gospel-which IMO theological view is NOT the Gospel and is often based on the cupidity and pride and narcissism of the people who preach it, but I also have a problem with many faith healers. I think such people do exist but they're not hanging out a shingle and promising that you'll get better if you send in a donation to get your prayer cloth. I-along with the man I sometimes listen to on the radio from "Loving Grace Miinistries" have a pet peeve about "name it and claim it/gab it and grab it" preachers who insist that if you don't get well your faith isn't strong enough. I've seen that in church I intended with a group that split off and did their own thing. It's spiritual abuse. It's blaming and shaming people for not getting well and instead of suggesting that God is with us no matter what our circumstances-it;s basically saying that we put our faith not in God, but in our faith and so is a human centered religion. There's a big difference there b/t faith in God and faith in our faith. If people belong to such a church and it makes them feel bad because they're not getting well then I suggest getting out now. Wayne Monbleau says the same thing in the clip I posted last night and in his book, "Whys is this happening to me?" I haven't been on medication for depression for about four years and sometimes I feel bad, but not as bad as I have in the past and I'm grateful for that. I don't know why that is. It may be because i don't eat gluten or sugar-as much as possible- or that I try to get exercise and sunshine. I just feel that long periods of meditation and prayer have helped me a lot. I don't pretend that this will work for everybody nor would I ever blame people for being ill. All of this was quite different than suggesting people who are clinically depressed need to have happy thoughts. It just means if you're feeling emotionally bad breaks from here might help and some people here have affirmed that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2014 05:59 AM (XyM/Y)

292 Thanks, MWW. I appreciate you sharing your perception., That was my thought too and I certainly hope an pray that person gets the healing they need in whateveer ways they need.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2014 06:02 AM (XyM/Y)

293 And just one more thing-If you are on medication for depression DO NOT go off of it because you might think I suggested that. I didn't and I'm NOT. I went off of it because my doctor left the area, I did not want to get a new one and because frankly, even with insurance I couldn't afford it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2014 06:08 AM (XyM/Y)

294 @284 And the point being?

Posted by: NYC Parent at March 27, 2014 06:17 AM (HEo6y)

295 We shouldnt forget about this one from last week either. A Dem in Obama's home state snared in a child porn/human trafficking investigation. Abruptly resigns after a raid on his home and legislative offices by ICE and the FBI. http://bit.ly/1o4cMvK

Posted by: Tasty Grouper at March 27, 2014 06:29 AM (aeJjF)

296 Paul Ryan isn't even limiting his amnesty hangup to good Democratic Hispanics.  He's promised <i>Irish</i> immigration activists that he will push for amnesty for the 50,000 Irish illegals their prime minister wants legalized.

Apparently as long as you're not an American citizen you deserve a job and benefits in RyanWorld.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 27, 2014 07:30 AM (XO6WW)

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