May 02, 2014

Top Headline Comments 5-2-14
— Gabriel Malor

Happy Friday.

It will not shock anyone to know that in his rush to criticize Justice Scalia for the error (now corrected) in his latest opinion, the New Republic's Brian Beutler made plenty of careless errors of his own.

How is this front page news?

More gossip on David Gregory's 'Meet the Press' troubles.

A Democratic group is suing—successfully—to enforce Citizens United at the state level. It's a good thing, but demonstrates once again Democratic protestations about the case are just noise.

Ya'll have a nice weekend.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 02:50 AM | Comments (455)
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1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Friday, May 02, 2014.  On this day in 1611 the King James Bible was published for the first time in London, England, by printer Robert Barker.   It is still the best selling book of all time.  But you will not see it on a lot of the lists because liberals dominate the industry and they "claim" that many are given away for free so they don't include it.  They neglect to mention that somebody had to buy it to begin with to give it away.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:51 AM (T2V/1)

2 Even if you don't sign up for Obamacide it is costing you a shit-ton of money through State taxes.


http://tinyurl.com/okvgrxc

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:51 AM (T2V/1)

3 The head of the NAACP in LA has resigned over the Sterling flap.  Actually the NAACP has long just been a Democrat front group and really doesn't give a shit about anything but raising money from companies (like Sterling's) and getting out the vote for Democrat candidates.


http://tinyurl.com/lxu736v

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:51 AM (T2V/1)

4 Look; a squirrel.  I believe if I were this guy I would head down to the Dr and get checked for rabies.


http://tinyurl.com/lghfmbs

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

5 DAY 542 921 to go (994 to Inauguration Day 2017) Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, McConnell's, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Mugwumps, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microagressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 02:52 AM (CMkNk)

6 The feds announce probes of 55 colleges in the sexual assault scam they are running.  When did sexual assault become a federal crime?  It is way past time to get rid of Jimmy Carter's unconstitutional Dept of Education.


http://tinyurl.com/k9gytl2

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

7 A Cuban criminal who helped steal $2.8M in gold in the US can not be brought back to the US for trial because of the incompetent DHS.


http://tinyurl.com/pqfwg2e

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

8 We talked a little about the government's abuse of civil forfeiture laws yesterday.  Here is another case of major abuse by the corrupt IRS.  The people in this case eventually got their money back but in an honest world the people who did this abuse would have been personally fined and jailed for felony theft.


http://tinyurl.com/nwe5lr8

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:52 AM (T2V/1)

9 More thuggish behavior from cops.  They punch man in the face and throw him to the ground for no apparent reason.  Their story and witness stories are 180° out of synch.  IOW somebody is lying.  I hope this video shows who.  I couldn't get it to play.


http://tinyurl.com/mc6kcbf

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

10 Which RINO are they pushing today?  (caution NYT)


Donors Weigh Jilting Christie for Jeb Bush


How about neither damn one.


http://tinyurl.com/qyxkc34

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

11 Nice Moron Meet-up last night in the Village. CBD, Nevergiveup, Fruminous Bandersnatch, RondinellaMomma among others in attendance along with yours truly. A fine time had by all.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 02:53 AM (CMkNk)

12 CNN asks if it was legal to record and release Sterling's rant.  They discuss State law but fail to mention it was also a violation of federal law, namely the electronic communications privacy act (18 U.S. Code § 2511).   There are no provisions under the act for federal punishment, however he can seek damages from his ex-wife.  If he has to fight the NBA in court she will be liable for all the costs, including the cost of the team if he loses it.   I hope she is aware of the shit storm she has made herself liable for. And CNN should do a little research before they publish shit.   And speaking of CNN and other news services who are publishing her crap, perhaps they should talk to their lawyers as well. They are not exempt from this law.


http://tinyurl.com/pddtlaj

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:53 AM (T2V/1)

13 The latest outrage from the power mad megalomaniac in the WH.


President Barack ObamaÂ’s $302 billion transportation bill gives federal regulators the power to enter the premises of car dealerships to determine if their vehicles are in compliance with federal fuel-economy mandates.


No mention if they have to get a warrant of not.  I suspect not.  Question is; will the House Republicans kill this?   I no longer have confidence they will halt shit like this.


http://tinyurl.com/oa9w57b

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

14 Another rogue cop shoots teen girl 4 times killing her.  Taxpayers will pay.


http://tinyurl.com/msunkw7

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

15 The only thing the DHS is good at is harassing US citizens.

Good morning pixel pals!

Posted by: Gmac - Pondering ... something at May 02, 2014 02:54 AM (4pjhs)

16 The Daily Caller says OR is turning red for this next election.  Amazing what 6 years of an outright corrupt communist administration can do.


http://tinyurl.com/oed48hz

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

17 Tricare getting major cuts for retired military and dependents.  Government promises are not worth a shit.  Remember that.


http://tinyurl.com/kbn39hf

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:54 AM (T2V/1)

18 Democrats and race baiting blacks claim requiring people to get a photo ID is an unfair burden for them.  But increasingly now even illegals can get driver's licenses.


http://tinyurl.com/lym9zsv

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

19 The Mexican Army is crossing the border and shooting US citizens.  What is our government response?   NADA.


http://tinyurl.com/q8yktom

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

20 Good morning, darlings.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at May 02, 2014 02:55 AM (N/cFh)

21 Seattle to raise the minimum wage to $15/hour.  What we need is a rational Supreme Court who will bring back Lochner and rein these communists in. But since that will not happen the most likely outcome of this will be a bunch of small businesses moving out of the city to the suburbs.  I hope the residents of Seattle are happy with their communist government after that.


http://tinyurl.com/k24onfa

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:55 AM (T2V/1)

22 Recall this video I posted the link to yesterday of a bunch of black thugs in an unprovoked attack on a white teen in a school bus.  Well, U-tube has pulled the video.  Can not show blacks in a bad light.


http://tinyurl.com/mdhfbb9

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

23 The new commie governor of VA takes a page from Obama's playbook and plans on expanding Medicaid coverage for the poor without going through the State legislature.  Maybe they will impeach him.  Hahahahaha not in this lifetime.


http://tinyurl.com/ku5t6hn

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

24 RINO Rubio ramping up for 2016.


http://tinyurl.com/k9m8jrp

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

25 The latest IRS study of taxpayer migration shows Americans are still fleeing high tax blue States and heading South to low tax red States.  Let's just pray that they do not bring the same voting and attitudes that made their State high tax to begin with.


http://tinyurl.com/kuc63yq

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:56 AM (T2V/1)

26 Congress getting ready to pass another Keystone bill with enough votes to bypass dirty Hairy.  But again, the chief asshole in the WH will veto it.


http://tinyurl.com/motdu39

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

27 And lo-and-behold Obama has pissed off a bird conservation group.  They plan on suing him over his Executive Dept order to allow wind farms to kill eagles without any consequences.  If they get a fair court they will win too.


http://tinyurl.com/n565b4c

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:57 AM (T2V/1)

28 The Daily Deals


http://tinyurl.com/k8d5xyj


That's it for today folks. I have another Dr's appointment in the city today and will be leaving in a couple of hours.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 02:58 AM (T2V/1)

29 Morning!

I watched ABC News last night.. and they did indeed give short shrift to the Benghazi hearings.  I was particularly outraged that they only covered the very minor aspect of the hearings where the general testified he thought we should have done more to rescue our people in Benghazi.

Not ONE word on the White House lies and cover up..

Now, I find out from the sidebar that NBC and CBS didn't cover it at all!  And the libtards still insist all the media is corporate shills for the GOP.. unbelievable!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 02:58 AM (b/lt+)

30 Nice Moron Meet-up last night in the Village. CBD, Nevergiveup, Fruminous Bandersnatch, RondinellaMomma among others in attendance along with yours truly. A fine time had by all. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 06:53 AM (CMkNk) Yup. I think we're gonna need a bigger room next time, or smaller people

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:00 AM (t3UFN)

31 24 RINO Rubio ramping up for 2016. http://tinyurl.com/k9m8jrp Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 06:56 AM (T2V/1) I have a LONG memory and before I start moping around and figuring out which is the best alternative, cancer, heart disease or MS, I will stifle myself. We need the most conservative candidate as possible. Enough already!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:00 AM (CMkNk)

32 The latest IRS study of taxpayer migration shows Americans are still fleeing high tax blue States and heading South to low tax red States. Let's just pray that they do not bring the same voting and attitudes that made their State high tax to begin with.
Posted by: Vic
..............
Ha.  Pray all you like.. but these hypocrites who are evading high blue state taxes still want all the goodies and will vote for more socialism in the new red state homes.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 03:00 AM (b/lt+)

33 The girl in the video is lovely. I wonder if she would like to go out for some caramel apples and a malt?

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 03:00 AM (06lNq)

34 30 Yup. I think we're gonna need a bigger room next time, or smaller people Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 07:00 AM (t3UFN) Or arrive later! 4 of us holding each other's hand for an hour and then BOOM!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:01 AM (CMkNk)

35 The girl in the video is lovely. I wonder if she would like to go out for some caramel apples and a malt?

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 03:01 AM (TRyfo)

36 And where the freakin' hell does Gabe get this shit "music"?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 03:02 AM (b/lt+)

37 Or arrive later! 4 of us holding each other's hand for an hour and then BOOM! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 07:01 AM (CMkNk) That wasn't my hand you were holding. Ba-Boom

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:03 AM (t3UFN)

38 36 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 07:03 AM (t3UFN) Now say "aaaah!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:03 AM (CMkNk)

39 Did you see this "Dude" guy on Fox last night? I did on replay. And this is the kind of "Kid" running our government under obama?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:04 AM (t3UFN)

40 Nice Moron Meet-up last night in the Village. CBD, Nevergiveup, Fruminous Bandersnatch, RondinellaMomma among others in attendance along with yours truly.

A fine time had by all. Posted by: J.J. Sefton
.............
I'm jealous!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 03:04 AM (b/lt+)

41

From the piece on whackjob Gregory's producer leaving him for Snuffluftagus:

 

“He is famously the only host on Sunday morning TV who won’t pick up the phone to seal the deal to get a big guest. There’s nobody else on TV, and certainly on Sunday mornings, who thinks they are too important to do that. It is tough on the producers.

 

     "But, no, I was not mistreated and David and I have a swell relationship."

Posted by: RushBabe at May 02, 2014 03:05 AM (hrIP5)

42 9 More thuggish behavior from cops. They punch man in the face and throw him to the ground for no apparent reason. Their story and witness stories are 180° out of synch. IOW somebody is lying. I hope this video shows who. I couldn't get it to play. http://tinyurl.com/mc6kcbf Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 06:53 AM (T2V/1) Watched the video. The cops are lying sacks of shit. No surprise there.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2014 03:09 AM (mx5oN)

43 Looks like a slow day today.  Where is everybody at?  Hung over from the NYC meetup.  Drinking those $16 shots?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:10 AM (T2V/1)

44 39 I'm jealous! Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 07:04 AM (b/lt+) Maybe one day a national convention. With tar, feathers, rope and lampposts, even!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:10 AM (CMkNk)

45 @38 I've met that guy innumerable times in my career, snarky and smarmy with nothing, glib to the core. A mile wide ego but an inch deep intellect.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 03:10 AM (TRyfo)

46 41  Watched the video. The cops are lying sacks of shit. No surprise there.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2014 07:09 AM (mx5oN)



That's what I figured but I couldn't watch it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:10 AM (T2V/1)

47 42 Looks like a slow day today. Where is everybody at? Hung over from the NYC meetup. Drinking those $16 shots? Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 07:10 AM (T2V/1) What is this; pay-me-no-mind week? Morning, Vic. Actually your name came up as the moron we'd most like to meet in person. Ace came in second.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:11 AM (CMkNk)

48 "But, no, I was not mistreated and David and I have a swell relationship." The 50's called. They want their saying back. Morning all.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 03:11 AM (d0Dmj)

49 Looks like a slow day today. Where is everybody at? Hung over from the NYC meetup. Drinking those $16 shots? Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 07:10 AM (T2V/1) Well the waitress was nice

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:11 AM (t3UFN)

50 Well, my weekend starts in 8 min, I hope ya'll have a good one!

Posted by: Gmac - Pondering ... something at May 02, 2014 03:12 AM (4pjhs)

51 Big takeaway from Dude-Boy is that he admitted on camera that SCOAMF was nowhere near the Situation Room at all when the attack went down and he had no idea where he was. Boom.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:12 AM (CMkNk)

52 46  What is this; pay-me-no-mind week? Morning, Vic. Actually your name came up as the moron we'd most like to meet in person.

Ace came in second.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 07:11 AM (CMkNk)



LOL, next time a Moron goes to Charleston we will have to have a meetup somewhere down there.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:13 AM (T2V/1)

53 What is this; pay-me-no-mind week? Jealousy is ugly. We're bummed we couldn't go to the meet up.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 03:13 AM (d0Dmj)

54 14 Another rogue cop shoots teen girl 4 times killing her. Taxpayers will pay. http://tinyurl.com/msunkw7 Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 06:54 AM (T2V/1) Only trained professionals like cops should have guns.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2014 03:14 AM (mx5oN)

55 Missouri Governor Nixon just vetoed the statewide tax cut bill.  Legislature has about 2 weeks to try to override.  We'll see if they do.

Gov says "but but but... the children!!"

All the usual suspects are opposed.  No doubt people in  Chicago and Springfield, IL  are hoping it doesn't stand.  There are countless people who live over on  the hell side of the river, drive over every day to work  in Missouri.  It makes absolutely no sense to me. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 03:14 AM (BeSEI)

56

All of these civil forfeiture cases and police thuggery leads me to think I need to start studying law.

 

I can't hope to afford the kind of legal assistance required to defend my family in the courts (a fact I think they and the lawyer class in general counts on) if necessary.

 

So the only alternative seems to be that I must soil myself and start taking law courses. So now I need to find a State college that offers law courses in my area so I can use the Hazelwood act to be able to afford it.

 

Fun fun.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 03:14 AM (f6ZLT)

57 Interesting shift in public opinion to UKIP seems to be going on UK. possibly a preference cascade against Elite and Media. http://tinyurl.com/qxcrf8a

Posted by: tmitsss at May 02, 2014 03:15 AM (Pa9vP)

58 Big takeaway from Dude-Boy is that he admitted on camera that SCOAMF was nowhere near the Situation Room at all when the attack went down and he had no idea where he was. Boom. He was getting a hot "tip" from Reggie.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 03:15 AM (d0Dmj)

59 LOL, next time a Moron goes to Charleston we will have to have a meetup somewhere down there. Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 07:13 AM (T2V/1) Shit I wish I had known that last year.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:16 AM (t3UFN)

60 Ha. Pray all you like.. but these hypocrites who are evading high blue state taxes still want all the goodies and will vote for more socialism in the new red state homes. I've lived in Pa all my life. My township has 'blue ribbon' schools that have the highest rating. My school taxes are ridiculous -- I can't afford to retire and pay those taxes. My plan is to move to NC, to a town with poorly rated schools and vote down every effort to fund them to the level of Pa.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 03:16 AM (HaoMv)

61 @50 But the president has an iPad and a phone and really isn't out of the loop, said no liberal ever about George Bush. Remember when Bush could even "vacation" on his own ranch without some twat giving him a ration of shit?

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 03:17 AM (TRyfo)

62 55 All of these civil forfeiture cases and police thuggery leads me to think I need to start studying law.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 07:14 AM (f6ZLT)
--------------------------------


That would not have helped that 19 year old girl.  Hard to plead a case in court when you are dead.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:17 AM (T2V/1)

63 Gallup Poll:  Half The Residents in Illinois, Connecticut and Maryland Want To Get The Hell Out. heh.

Posted by: Case at May 02, 2014 03:17 AM (9mWut)

64 Gallup Poll: Half The Residents in Illinois, Connecticut and Maryland Want To Get The Hell Out. heh. Who has the concession on fences?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 03:19 AM (d0Dmj)

65 @59 I've been looking to move to pa, the property taxes shocked the shit out of me and I live in jersey which has the highest average property taxes in the country.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 03:19 AM (TRyfo)

66 Maybe one day a national convention. With tar, feathers, rope and lampposts, even!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
...........
Count me in!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 03:20 AM (b/lt+)

67 62 Gallup Poll: Half The Residents in Illinois, Connecticut and Maryland Want To Get The Hell Out. heh.

Posted by: Case at May 02, 2014 07:17 AM (9mWut)


And looking at that chart on that link they are, in droves.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:20 AM (T2V/1)

68

65: "That would not have helped that 19 year old girl. Hard to plead a case in court when you are dead."

 

True. Not much I can do about that. All I can do is prepare for what I can do something about.

 

Besides, I'm more likely to have some level of government try to steal my shit than I am to get shot. At least for now.

 

If the trend of increasing rates of murder by enforcer continues, I may have to reassess that position. 

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 03:21 AM (/qzu7)

69 Yogi Berra is now living in Assisted Living and his house in Montclair in on the market. Of course all you baseball fans know Yogi wore #8. His house is on the market for $888,000. Nice touch I think.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:21 AM (t3UFN)

70 52 Jealousy is ugly. We're bummed we couldn't go to the meet up. Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 07:13 AM (d0Dmj) Yup, we missed you all too.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:22 AM (CMkNk)

71 @68 It's actually on the market for $888,888.88.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 03:23 AM (TRyfo)

72 68 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 07:21 AM (t3UFN) What about the other $888.88? Maybe Herman Cain can outbid all comers by adding $111,111.11 to the bid!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:23 AM (CMkNk)

73 I've been looking to move to pa, the property taxes shocked the shit out of me and I live in jersey which has the highest average property taxes in the country. Hard to believe, my daughter lived in NJ and her property taxes shocked the hell out of me for what she owned. But some of these school systems in this state are spending money like the taxpayers all have printing presses in the basement. The township tax is reasonable, the county tax is reasonable, but the school tax is the killer.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 03:24 AM (HaoMv)

74

71: "Maybe Herman Cain can outbid all comers by adding $111,111.11 to the bid!"

 

Reminds me of those Price is Right D-bags who win by bidding $0.01 more than the person before them. 

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 03:25 AM (/qzu7)

75 It's actually on the market for $888,888.88. Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 07:23 AM (TRyfo) OK, Hey maybe us Morons want to chip in and buy it for a club house and Ace can use it to dry out when he needs to and to hide

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:26 AM (t3UFN)

76 Seattle to raise the minimum wage to $15/hour. What we need is a rational Supreme Court who will bring back Lochner and rein these communists in. But since that will not happen the most likely outcome of this will be a bunch of small businesses moving out of the city to the suburbs. I hope the residents of Seattle are happy with their communist government after that. http://tinyurl.com/k24onfa Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 06:55 AM (T2V/1) The people won't be able to make the connection. Cognitive dissonance will kick in, and they will revert to the liberal/socialist standard that business is evil.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 02, 2014 03:26 AM (QR7wx)

77 41 -

I don't think the video conclusively indicates the cops were not provoked.   Without audio, we have no way of knowing if  the guy was making threatening statements, or that his arm gesture was NOT an act of aggression.

However, their report says he lunged at them.  Eh... sorry, boys.  He did not lunge at you.  His  head bounced off the wall after you punched him. 

Which  means the cops are guilty on this one.  I don't always agree  with a lot of people around here who talk about out of control cops, but this one looks  like they're guilty. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 03:26 AM (BeSEI)

78 51 Vic, I'm game...of course morons'll try to drown me....raccooning ain't easy... At a minimum I'll leave a hundred bucks or two for drinks with someone. I can't believe I IP blocked myself. The Tricare thing is shit but not unexpected shit.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 03:26 AM (IDQo4)

79 Some of the Morons have been talking about moving down to the Charleston area.  That area has some of the highest taxes in SC but look at this.


A $200,000 house (about average) will only cost you about $1,000 in property taxes in the city of Charleston, and that includes both city and county taxes.


http://www.charlestoncounty.org/TaxInfo/index.htm

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:27 AM (T2V/1)

80 The House has already passed it. Missouri Senate passes bill to drop Common Core curriculum http://preview.tinyurl.com/ms5ryxf

Posted by: --- at May 02, 2014 03:28 AM (MMC8r)

81 Congress getting ready to pass another Keystone bill with enough votes to bypass dirty Hairy. But again, the chief asshole in the WH will veto it. http://tinyurl.com/motdu39 Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 06:57 AM (T2V/1) Good. Make him take a position. Force him to stop trying to walk a fine line.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 02, 2014 03:28 AM (QR7wx)

82

77: "The Tricare thing is shit but not unexpected shit."

 

Just wait until they dump us into Medicare/Medicaid.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 03:28 AM (LJpVo)

83 66 Vic, Coming soon to a nation near you.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 03:29 AM (IDQo4)

84 @72 I live in Morris county which is the 8th richest county in the US and I pay under 6k for a 1/2 acre with my abode. I was looking to move to tannersville some of the properties were in excess of 7k. Granted these were an acre+ properties but it's farking PA for crists sake.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 03:29 AM (TRyfo)

85 And CNN should do a little research before they publish shit. Bah!

Posted by: CNN Where strippers read our DNC® talking points at May 02, 2014 03:29 AM (gE40i)

86 77  The Tricare thing is shit but not unexpected shit.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 07:26 AM (IDQo4)


My MIL is on Tri-care.  I will have to ask her how it impacts her.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:30 AM (T2V/1)

87 81 Azengoth, Hey fuck you GI you cost too much! //POlitician+Civil Service local 957 "your friends in the International Dickhead Movement"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 03:30 AM (IDQo4)

88

84: CNN Where strippers read our DNC® talking points

 

That might actually get me to watch them.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 03:31 AM (/qzu7)

89 Well our day of Fundamental Cultural Transformation is over, unless there are more party members who need a Public Shaming to get their minds back on the right track. We've had our day of Public Release of Frustration, so it's back to work as usual, eh? Purges will be listed in the back of the style section page 32. Forward!

Posted by: Soo, Soo, Soook Water Sellers at May 02, 2014 03:31 AM (4BUUf)

90 Jeb Bush will save us. You'll see.

Posted by: Nothing to see here, move along at May 02, 2014 03:32 AM (L0my5)

91

89: "Jeb Bush will save us."

 

I'd rather burn.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 03:33 AM (LJpVo)

92 83  I live in Morris county which is the 8th richest county in the US and I pay under 6k for a 1/2 acre with my abode.

I was looking to move to tannersville some of the properties were in excess of 7k.

Granted these were an acre+ properties but it's farking PA for crists sake.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 07:29 AM (TRyfo)



I am paying $600 a year for a 1600 sf house on 3 acres in the county. 

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:33 AM (T2V/1)

93 83 I was looking to move to tannersville some of the properties were in excess of 7k. Granted these were an acre+ properties but it's farking PA for crists sake. Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 07:29 AM (TRyfo) Know the area well, having worked at a nearby summer camp for many years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:33 AM (CMkNk)

94 "My school taxes are ridiculous -- I can't afford to retire and pay those taxes. My plan is to move to NC, to a town with poorly rated schools and vote down every effort to fund them to the level of Pa." When the kids were young, we had a vacation house in northern Michigan where there was a concentration of homes around a ski mountain and a group of championship golf courses. The school taxes were insane. On a $250,000 cabin, the taxes were $11K per year. Of course, nobody with a vacation home sent their kids to school there. They must have had individual lap pools for each kid at the school.

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2014 03:34 AM (u2a4R)

95 92 JJ Sefton, Over at Crystal Lake? //Vorhees 2016

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 03:34 AM (IDQo4)

96 My MIL is on Tri-care. I will have to ask her how it impacts her. Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 07:30 AM (T2V/1) Ya mean the new RX rule for Tricare for life people?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:35 AM (t3UFN)

97 CNN Where strippers read our DNC® talking points at May 02, 2014 07:29 AM (gE40i) Who me? Give it to me, Dear Leader, uh-huh-uh huh uh-huh *thumpa thumpa thumpa* Give it to me, Dear Leader, uh-huh-uh huh uh-huh *thumpa thumpa thumpa*

Posted by: Krystal Ball (Original, huh?) at May 02, 2014 03:35 AM (gE40i)

98 JJ Sefton, Over at Crystal Lake? //Vorhees 2016 Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 07:34 AM (IDQo4) I went to a Summer Camp in Orson PA for 14 years. Wayne County- North East Corner of PA

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:36 AM (t3UFN)

99 95  Ya mean the new RX rule for Tricare for life people?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 07:35 AM (t3UFN)



I didn't understand that "For Life" shit.  Is that a different kind of Tricare?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:37 AM (T2V/1)

100 @91 Unfortunately my occupation ties me to NYC/NJ and it's post production/production industry. I would love to move to a state that is more in toon with my philosophy and state of being but sadly it's not in the cards.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 03:37 AM (TRyfo)

101 94 92 JJ Sefton, Over at Crystal Lake? //Vorhees 2016 Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 07:34 AM (IDQo4) Nope. Town of Reeders, near Trout Lake and Gruber's Lake. Snydersville, Bartonsville et al.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:38 AM (CMkNk)

102 I am paying $600 a year for a 1600 sf house on 3 acres in the county. * thunk* Imagine paying that amount twice a month, every month of the year. That would be the 'average' bill in my little town. One of the 'Top 50' highest taxed counties in the USA.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 03:38 AM (HaoMv)

103 I didn't understand that "For Life" shit. Is that a different kind of Tricare? Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 07:37 AM (T2V/1) It's what Retire's get after 20+ years for their Medical

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:38 AM (t3UFN)

104 When the kids were young, we had a vacation house in northern Michigan where there was a concentration of homes around a ski mountain and a group of championship golf courses.

The school taxes were insane. On a $250,000 cabin, the taxes were $11K per year. Of course, nobody with a vacation home sent their kids to school there.

They must have had individual lap pools for each kid at the school. Posted by: jwest
.........
20 years ago I was a programmer in the school software biz..  I made several trips up to the Boyne/Charlevoix area school districts.. they definitely were not pinching pennies!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 03:39 AM (b/lt+)

105

91: "I am paying $600 a year for a 1600 sf house on 3 acres in the county."

 

I have a one acre lot (seperate from the family ranch), completely empty and unimproved. Guadalupe County charges me $540.

 

Damn millionaire horse breeder moved in the area and caused the rates to skyrocket.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 03:40 AM (v6cwT)

106 102  It's what Retire's get after 20+ years for their Medical

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 07:38 AM (t3UFN)


Her husband was retired AF.  So he would have been on it, therefore I guess that is what she is on.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:40 AM (T2V/1)

107 98 Vic, Yup...basically third class.... Tricare Prime(active duty active duty spouse and dependents) Tricare Prime Remote(arguably better in some ways for active dut more than 60 miles from a major base) Tricare(for reservists and guard on full time duty IIRC) Tricare for Life(retirees) The bastards wil fuck retirees first

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 03:40 AM (IDQo4)

108 Damn, I didn't know there were that many tri-care types.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:41 AM (T2V/1)

109 I am paying $600 a year for a 1600 sf house on 3 acres in the county. Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 07:33 AM (T2V/1) I pay $2400.00/yr for the same size on .89 acre, but I'm also lakefront on the only private lake (Lake of Egypt) left in Illinois that you can build on. Our county is one of the poorest (and most rural) in the state so, they jam us 1%ers (cue laugh track). If I lived directly across the street, off the lake, I would pay about $600.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 02, 2014 03:42 AM (gE40i)

110

102: "It's what Retire's get after 20+ years for their Medical"

 

But we still have to pay for Medicare once we hit 65.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 03:42 AM (Kh+vp)

111
Good news, every Juan!:

The Republican-controlled Florida Senate voted Thursday in favor of letting students who live in the country illegally qualify for in-state college tuition rates. The bill is expected to pass now and head to the desk of Republican Gov. Rick Scott who has publicly endorsed the legislation for several weeks. "It's an exciting day for every student that dreams of a college education," Scott said shortly after the bill passed. "This is a historic day. Children who grow up in this state now get the same tuition as their peers."

Several times during this year's session the bill appeared in trouble as some Republicans sharply criticized the idea and even said it was "pandering." But it emerged as a top priority for Scott during an election year in which Hispanic voters may play a crucial role.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 02, 2014 03:43 AM (kdS6q)

112

THE WHOLE POINT of the Clippers/Sterling faux outrage is to knock the Benghazi emails off the news.

Really it's a setup so that  the team can be bought cheap by the mistress's friends/sponsors.

Posted by: MAx at May 02, 2014 03:43 AM (b7yum)

113 By the way, for what it is worth, Donald Sterling has prostrate cancer.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:44 AM (t3UFN)

114 I hope ya'll noticed the pic at the top of that Charleston tax page.  The houses along the battery.  The most expensive houses in the State running $4M and up.


Even with cheap tax rates think of what you would pay for those.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:44 AM (T2V/1)

115 "Yup. I think we're gonna need a bigger room next time, or smaller people." It's not the room that makes your ass look fat.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 02, 2014 03:44 AM (HLprW)

116 20 years ago I was a programmer in the school software biz.. I made several trips up to the Boyne/Charlevoix area school districts.. they definitely were not pinching pennies! Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 07:39 AM (b/lt+) They never scheduled the elections when any of us homeowners would be there, so the locals just kept voting to raise the taxes. Their homes were all grandfathered in at low rates while the assessors went crazy with the new construction.

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2014 03:44 AM (u2a4R)

117 109 Azengoth, And by law Tricare pays last.... I am STILL in awe that America voted to give the Feds oversight of the Healthcare Biz... "Abandon hope all ye who enter here..."

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 03:44 AM (IDQo4)

118 Thank you, Vic, for all that you do for the horde.  I hope the Dr's appointment goes well.

Posted by: Null at May 02, 2014 03:44 AM (xjpRj)

119 It's not the room that makes your ass look fat. Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 02, 2014 07:44 AM (HLprW) My ass is not the problem

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:44 AM (t3UFN)

120 By the way, for what it is worth, Donald Sterling has prostrate cancer. Posted by: Nevergiveup
...........
You can get cancer from laying down??

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 03:45 AM (b/lt+)

121

118: "My ass is not the problem"

 

Until the horde gets done.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 03:46 AM (/qzu7)

122 109  But we still have to pay for Medicare once we hit 65.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 07:42 AM (Kh+vp)



Everybody has to do that IIANM.  My brother retired from civilian gov service (AFB in GA).  He had to switch over to medicare at 65.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:46 AM (T2V/1)

123 $3200 per year for 1500 sq. ft. on a quarter acre in socali

Posted by: MAx at May 02, 2014 03:46 AM (b7yum)

124 114 "Yup. I think we're gonna need a bigger room next time, or smaller people." It's not the room that makes your ass look fat. Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 02, 2014 07:44 AM (HLprW) You're only as fat as the ass you feel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:47 AM (CMkNk)

125 http://preview.tinyurl.com/pepxjsj The rent is too high.

Posted by: The Movie Character "Photojournalist" in 'Apocalypse Now' at May 02, 2014 03:47 AM (h7FkS)

126 9. So if you didn't watch the video, how can you blame the "thuggish cops"?

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 03:48 AM (/fhBu)

127 I pay about $5600/yr for a normal suburban house /lot (1/4 acre?)

The schools get the lion's share..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 03:48 AM (b/lt+)

128 117 Thank you, Vic, for all that you do for the horde. I hope the Dr's appointment goes well.

Posted by: Null at May 02, 2014 07:44 AM (xjpRj)


Tanks, it should.  This is a routine visit to go over my last CT scan several weeks ago.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:48 AM (T2V/1)

129 34 The girl in the video is lovely.



I wonder if she would like to go out for some caramel apples and a malt?


Posted by: Kreplach


I like adorable but that was excessive. She's not a bad singer. Very pretty. That song is a remake? Its familar sounding. Eh, I've been listening to Little Feet albums recently, what the hell do I know about new music.

Posted by: puddleglum at May 02, 2014 03:48 AM (GO4bm)

130 124 http://preview.tinyurl.com/pepxjsj The rent is too high. Posted by: The Movie Character "Photojournalist" in 'Apocalypse Now' at May 02, 2014 07:47 AM (h7FkS) I want one! My own bunker!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:49 AM (CMkNk)

131 After you turn 65 here you are exempt from property tax.  But then this is Alabama where we are all backward and stupid.

Posted by: Case at May 02, 2014 03:50 AM (9mWut)

132
Meanwhile, Pillar of Salt time in CA:

Conceptual artist Spy EmersonÂ’s sex-themed art project The Hook-Up Truck, a commercial box truck retrofitted for sex on the street, departs on its maiden voyage this weekend around the Bay Area.

The truck, described on the project’s website as “either participatory performance art, a safe and convenient place to get down while out on the town, or the end of civilization as we know it” will be cruising around Oakland Friday night before heading over to San Francisco’s Mission neighborhood at 10 p.m.

“It’s a small room. Everyone who has seen it has had so much fun. It’s like being a kid in a fort,” she said. “It’s designed for sex. There’s a bench, a bar to hold onto, and there’s a mirror on the ceiling. I’m still putting the finishing touches on it.”

http://tinyurl.com/oupel4c

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 02, 2014 03:50 AM (kdS6q)

133 128 Posted by: puddleglum at May 02, 2014 07:48 AM (GO4bm) Dixie Chicken/Tennessee LambÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:50 AM (CMkNk)

134 You're only as fat as the ass you feel. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 07:47 AM (CMkNk) there were a couple of asses I wanted to feel last night ( as I wiggle the cigar in my mouth like Groucho)

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 03:50 AM (t3UFN)

135 122 $3200 per year for 1500 sq. ft. on a quarter acre in socali

Posted by: MAx at May 02, 2014 07:46 AM (b7yum)


That's cheap for CA.  Friend of mine had a house in Castro Valley, CA and the last time I talked to her her taxes were $6K a year and her house was smaller than mine on a lot that barely would hold the house.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:51 AM (T2V/1)

136

130: "After you turn 65 here you are exempt from property tax. But then this is Alabama where we are all backward and stupid."

 

In our county, they just freeze the value. But then we don't have income tax, so it works out.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 03:51 AM (LJpVo)

137 125 Militarized Cop Joe(Village People Stand In), The same way you instantly spring to LE's defense...(as I used to).... LE needs at least as much scrutiny as the Code Pinkos you vote with wanted forthe Military under Bush

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 03:51 AM (IDQo4)

138 41. Well shit then But I didn't watch it yet so I'm just talking out my ass so far

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 03:51 AM (WFZEf)

139 133 there were a couple of asses I wanted to feel last night ( as I wiggle the cigar in my mouth like Groucho) Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 07:50 AM (t3UFN) I know exactly what you mean. And the waitress too.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 03:51 AM (CMkNk)

140 125 9. So if you didn't watch the video, how can you blame the "thuggish cops"?

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 07:48 AM (/fhBu)


The text

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:52 AM (T2V/1)

141 131 Laurie David's Cervix, Let nture take its course...ie they ain't changing the sheets so to speak

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 03:53 AM (IDQo4)

142 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 02, 2014 07:50 AM (kdS6q) Is that Flo from the Progressive commericals hanging out the window cruising for cock? I'll pass.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 02, 2014 03:53 AM (HLprW)

143 125 -

Valid  question, but in this case it looks like a staggering drunk  got punched a couple times in  the face, and the  cops were using the "he's coming right for us" defense, when really it was just his head bouncing off the wall after they hit him. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 03:54 AM (BeSEI)

144 141 Burn the Witch, Plaintiff's exhibit 7 for why I quit drinking.... Enough booze Flo'd be doable

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 03:55 AM (IDQo4)

145 Time to go start getting ready to head to the city.  Will be back for a short time before I leave.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 03:55 AM (T2V/1)

146 Almost $10,000 a year for 1900 sq ft on less than 1/4 acre. Suburb of NYC.

Posted by: real joe at May 02, 2014 03:55 AM (xXhgd)

147 >>>>By the way, for what it is worth, Donald Sterling has prostrate cancer.

I read that as "prostitute cancer".

Which works somehow.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 03:57 AM (IVgIK)

148 Okay, watched the video The bald looking cop needs to get charged for assault That was bullshit

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 03:58 AM (WFZEf)

149
And the Golden State pinata continues to drop candy for La Raza:

Establishing a system of subsidized health insurance for undocumented immigrants in California won conceptual approval late Wednesday from a state Senate committee.

The measure, Senate Bill 1005, would place the new system under control of Covered California, the state's provider of health insurance under the federal Affordable Care Act, and offer similar benefits.

California's estimated three million undocumented immigrants are now excluded from ACA coverage, which includes billions of dollars in federal subsidies, and covering them, as Sen. Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, envisions, would require many millions of dollars in underwriting funds, but no precise cost estimate has been made.

Lara believes that his proposed system could enroll about a million immigrants, and told the committee he has a team of academic experts working on the financing issue and hopes to have something in hand before his measure reaches the Senate floor.

http://tinyurl.com/mzqzqz2

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 02, 2014 03:58 AM (kdS6q)

150 Good morning y'all, last day in Charleston, it's been fun, love the south, and it's lovely here. I think I may have spotted Vic in his rocker a few times

Posted by: Spypeach at May 02, 2014 03:59 AM (PzZld)

151 139. Damn Didn't read that yet but it's most likely the wording of the video Btw, thanks again for the daily news It's how I start the day

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 03:59 AM (WFZEf)

152 146 Typ Dynamofo, I pray she was worth every penny she's now fucking him out of.... Of course with that much suction she'd be a "Polar Vortex"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 03:59 AM (IDQo4)

153 Ah, Fry Day!

Brian Beutler wrote that Judges MAKE Law.  Tell that to the "living, breathing" Constitution.
==
"Justice Scalia is not the only one making errors" By Jonathan H. Adler

May 1, 2014


Brian Beutler, Heal Yourself, you HACK journalist:

"In opinion journalism (as opposed to fact checking) opportunistic inconsistency (as opposed to imperfect diligence) is the mark of a hack. ItÂ’s a big challenge for people who write opinions for a living to keep track of a careerÂ’s worth of their own polemics, but an honest pundit will either account for changing views, or maintain old opinions whether or not they conflict with normative or partisan preferences. That way, even if he forgets his columns from a decade ago, he wonÂ’t be caught in embarrassing contradiction.

"And as long as weÂ’re applying journalistic tests" ...

“I just didnÂ’t write what you said I did.” 

“But Charles Krauthammer is just a writer. Scalia makes law."

==

...so many "justs"... don't make a right.

==

Beutler. Beutler? Beutler?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zyjLyBp64

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 02, 2014 03:59 AM (gmrH5)

154 136 -

I think it is not unreasonable to start with an assumption  the cops acted lawfully, because  they usually do.  You then adjust accordingly, depending on  the circumstance. 

I also happen to think it's very very unreasonable to start with a premise that "cops are thugs,"  and then go looking for every sensational news story that shows a possibility of cops acting out of line as  the evidence for  one's  premise.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 04:00 AM (BeSEI)

155 Does my ass make my ass look too big?

Posted by: Delusional Cow at May 02, 2014 04:00 AM (L0my5)

156 Wasn't it Sterling's girlfriend and not his ex-wife that released the recording?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 02, 2014 04:00 AM (V70Uh)

157 A little help here, morons? Anyone know who plays the hot mommy in this State Street Global TV commercial? www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvC45iCEbtk I tried asking http://whoisthathotadgirl.tumblr.com/ but they deleted my question within minutes. Biased, I suspect.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at May 02, 2014 04:01 AM (a5ljo)

158 So sex truck lady is supposedly a lawyer and is ready to defend her little mobile public sex room in court and has ambitions to have fleets of these things around the country. Defending this thing in her hometown of SF might be easy, but this person who claims to be a lawyer is surely aware that ordinances and laws change once you get outside that little asylum right?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 02, 2014 04:01 AM (HLprW)

159 Wasn't it Sterling's girlfriend and not his ex-wife that released the recording? Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 02, 2014 08:00 AM (V70Uh) His mistress, but she denies she released it? Must have been the tooth fairy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 04:02 AM (t3UFN)

160 I saw American Authors open for Airborne Toxic Events at Rams Head Live last year. 

Posted by: shillelagh at May 02, 2014 04:02 AM (KMDwG)

161

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 02, 2014 07:43 AM (kdS6q)

 

 

-------

 

That sucks.

 

You want even more outrage?  In Virginia, illegal alien spawn can go to colleges here now at the non-resident rate.  There was a bill this session to give the spawn the in-state rate, which did not pass.

 

VA Attorney General Mark Herring, who won his seat by like 300 votes, announced that no, actually the spawn can use the in-state rate.

 

This whole shit business of illegal alien's kids getting in state rates is fucked.  Aside from the principle of it, the reality is that the colleges only have a set number of slots for in state tuition rates.  An illegal alien who breaks all the rules can get his kids into a college and pay the subsidized rate, while an actual citizen's kids, who have grown up in the state and worked hard, get wait listed...because diversity or something.

 

No joke...there are students with 4.2 GPAs who are getting wait listed at James Madison University.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 02, 2014 04:02 AM (PFy0L)

162 Also noticed it was actually typed as "prostrate cancer", which considering the guys new found infamy, also works.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 04:03 AM (IVgIK)

163 130 After you turn 65 here you are exempt from property tax. But then this is Alabama .... Posted by: Case

Didn't know that. Live and learn.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 02, 2014 04:03 AM (gmrH5)

164 Morning all. Watched the first half of the cop video. Did I hear the anchor say one of these same deputies was involved in a previous case that cost the county $350K?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at May 02, 2014 04:03 AM (T8H6k)

165

151: "I pray she was worth every penny she's now fucking him out of.... "

 

One of the great pieces of wisdom that my dad passed down to me was that there ain't NO pussy worth that much money.

 

Having seen some of her photos, he could get the same or better with just a dinner at Red Lobster and a beer.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 04:03 AM (Kh+vp)

166 His mistress, but she denies she released it? Must have been the tooth fairy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 08:02 AM (t3UFN)


Ah, his Other mistress.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 02, 2014 04:04 AM (gmrH5)

167 157. Sex truck lady is a lawyer? ***channels my inner Amishdude*** Just goes to show that lawyers will screw you in and out of court for money

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 04:05 AM (RVboZ)

168 No joke...there are students with 4.2 GPAs who are getting wait listed at James Madison University. On an unrelated note, grade inflation appears to be a thing.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 02, 2014 04:06 AM (5PkZK)

169 153 Burt TC, Hey Burt check my history I used to do backflips to give deference to LE..... Some reasons why I quit: 1) Waco, Ruby Ridge, et al 2) LE happily ignoring Occutard Wal Street's rapes, rots, and vandalism 3) LE hppily aiding shutdown theater 4) LE's glee at using civil forfeiture and a deteriorating political environment to pla Monty Haul in application of the law 5) enforcing traffic laws like a monkey on crack but ignoring ten million guys named Juan's lawlessness. The cops either work for all of us or are in reality theMedia'd siblings in Democrat Lapdog land.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 04:06 AM (C5qsK)

170 32 Ha. Pray all you like.. but these hypocrites who are evading high blue state taxes still want all the goodies and will vote for more socialism in the new red state homes. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2014 07:00 AM (b/lt+) Yup exactly what happened here in NH , we don't call them Massholes as a term of endearment

Posted by: NativeNH at May 02, 2014 04:06 AM (lc3/d)

171 163 -

Yes.  And now they're supposedly looking into why he's back on  the street. 

It would be interesting to see the paper  trail, and how you put a guy who likes beating up citizens back on the  beat, but I think the simple answer to the questions is:  Broward  County,  FLA. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 04:06 AM (BeSEI)

172 Ideal "walk the dog" time has arrived. Evidently 7 am is when the temp drops before soaring with the Sun.

Onset of May will bring many a Fry Day...

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 02, 2014 04:06 AM (gmrH5)

173 Head on up to Susquehanna County, Pa where the taxes are low and the Marcellus Shale natural gas is flowing like water. 1.5 acres, 3,500 sq ft house, $200,000 range, paying about $1,000 a year in school and property taxes combined. Local school district has a gas well on their 200 acre property and the royalties just keep rolling in.

Posted by: pforeman at May 02, 2014 04:06 AM (vF5An)

174 163. Yep, she said one of the them Bet it was the bald looking one who threw the punch

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 04:07 AM (RVboZ)

175 Memorial Day: Israel prepares to honor 23,169 fallen soldiers Before Israel ushers in its 66th Independence Day, Monday marks Memorial Day, in which Israel remembers those killed in the line of duty or by terror activities; number of bereaved families in 2014 stands at 17,038.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 04:07 AM (t3UFN)

176 >>>I also happen to think it's very very unreasonable to start with a premise that "cops are thugs,

It has been less then a decade since I would have agreed with you. Coupling experience with shitbag cops and the unedited opinions of "good" cops with the natural tendencies of humans to abuse authority I have since changed my mind.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 04:08 AM (IVgIK)

177 So if you didn't watch the video, how can you blame the "thuggish cops"?

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 07:48 AM (/fhBu)

 

 

 

 

That's  easy,  they're  all  Bears  fans,  the  lowest  of  the  low.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at May 02, 2014 04:08 AM (rXcBX)

178

153: "I also happen to think it's very very unreasonable to start with a premise that "cops are thugs," and then go looking for every sensational news story that shows a possibility of cops acting out of line as the evidence for one's premise."

 

When my survival hinges on it, I'm very comfortable in making just such a predisposition. Neither the enforcers, nor the system that supports them would give me the benefit of the doubt, so I feel no need to reciprocate.

 

To dismiss such survival instincts is akin to suggesting that it it is very unreasonable to start with the premise that Islamists are murderous enemies and then look at every (and ever growing) list of stories that shows this to be the case.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 04:09 AM (LJpVo)

179 Hey are we gonna have a Moron Kentucky Derby pool?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 04:09 AM (t3UFN)

180 176. Bears fans aren't the lowest of the low Eagle fans have that locked up tight

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 04:10 AM (RVboZ)

181 9 More thuggish behavior from cops. They punch man in the face and throw him to the ground for no apparent reason. Their story and witness stories are 180° out of synch. IOW somebody is lying. I hope this video shows who. I couldn't get it to play. Just watched with no sound. The cops are the aggressors. One of them slugs the guy, then throws him hard to the ground. The guy is not violent or threatening at all.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 02, 2014 04:12 AM (5PkZK)

182 Eagle fans have that locked up tight




Oh my God, I agree with a democrat!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 04:13 AM (IVgIK)

183 Did you see this "Dude" guy on Fox last night? I did on replay. And this is the kind of "Kid" running our government under obama?

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I thought that's what he said!  I couldn't believe my ears and thought I misheard him.  This pansy-faced little twerp, who looked like he was wearing foundation, was being questioned by Brett Baier.  When I thought he said, "dude," my mouth dropped.  I swear, I thought my ears heard it wrong. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 02, 2014 04:13 AM (tsGZY)

184 168 -

And  against all that, you have to place the 90 something percent of the time when cops are decent people,  acting lawfully, trying to help bring order and safety to a chaotic world. 

It's a tough job.  I'm not a cop, in case anyone is wondering.  I have  a great deal of respect  for law enforcement officers as a whole, but I am probably in total agreement with  you that governments  of every level in this  country  are creating circumstances  where poorly trained officers  are  wearing badges and carrying guns, and the  policies of said governments render their police forces to be something other than focused on helping citizens, and  helping keep the peace. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 04:13 AM (BeSEI)

185 Head on up to Susquehanna County, Pa where the taxes are low and the Marcellus Shale natural gas is flowing like water. 1.5 acres, 3,500 sq ft house, $200,000 range, paying about $1,000 a year in school and property taxes combined. Could you give me a school district to look up? I picked a house at random (Montrose) on Zillow and the high school got a '5' rating. I'm curious if more money equals better schools.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 04:13 AM (HaoMv)

186 Your Future Starts Now! The 9 month certificate program provides full massage training to get you out the door and started on your career as soon as possible. Financial Aid for those who qualify. Van optional.

Posted by: The Movie Character at May 02, 2014 04:14 AM (h7FkS)

187 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 04:15 AM (PYAXX)

188

183: "And against all that, you have to place the 90 something percent of the time when cops are decent people, acting lawfully, trying to help bring order and safety to a chaotic world."

 

I would suggest that the 90 percent figure is wildly over estimated. 

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 04:15 AM (f6ZLT)

189 Vince Young, who hasn't played since 2011, got signed by who else but the Cleveland Browns. Now that's thinking outside the box, guys.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 02, 2014 04:15 AM (ZshNr)

190 Sorry I couldn't get to the moron meet up, but please don't tell me that that I came in dead last on "the moron you'd most like to meet poll." I know; It was "next to last" before "erg" who if anyone is a moron, he definitely is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2014 04:15 AM (XyM/Y)

191 It's Baltimore.. It's a Cop.. It's a WTF was he thinking, moment. http://tinyurl.com/lmoo7wx

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 02, 2014 04:15 AM (tDrpG)

192 187 Azengoth, And getting worse all the time as the old guard retires. Ny cop who uses the word "civilian" while pretending they are the Spartans at the Do Long River in Apocalypse Now ain't part of the solution..... Just wait until the entre US is as screwed up as New Mexico's gotten on LE matters.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 04:17 AM (C5qsK)

193 177 -

I would suggest if you go into any given confrontation with cops with that attitude, your  chances of finding yourself on wrong side of the zipper  of a body bag are much greater. 

What are you risking by saying "yes sir," and "no sir"  to a police officer's questions, or placing your hands where he/she asks you  to place them, or stopping a vehicle when you are ordered to stop? 

If the first words out of your mouth to  being questioned  by a cop are "f'ing pig"  or some variant thereof, you're  probably doing it wrong. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 04:18 AM (BeSEI)

194 Lara believes that his proposed system could enroll about a million immigrants Once enrolled, they can be found and deported. See how easy that is?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 04:19 AM (ltXvY)

195 And against all that, you have to place the 90 something percent of the time when cops are decent people, acting lawfully, trying to help bring order and safety to a chaotic world. I'll agree to this somewhat. I'm less sure of that 90% number these days, but even the ones who are good guys pretty well have to be dicks these days- and that doesn't help matters. When a cop pulls me over and doesn't smile at me, say "good morning," or anything like that- and every question is asked as though it's a trap ("Do you know why I pulled you over?" what's wrong with, "Sir, were you aware you were speeding?" or just, "Sir, I pulled you over because you were speeding.") it makes it less a person doing a job and more some mindless robot who is enforcing rules with no consideration of circumstance. And I know that characterization is incorrect, but it is, nevertheless, the general perception. And it's mostly required by the rules and regulations they have to follow. So when you add that "distance" to the actively bad cops, and add those to the militarization of the police, it's easy to see how cops are getting a bad reputation.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 04:19 AM (PYAXX)

196 The Republican-controlled Florida Senate voted Thursday in favor of letting students who live in the country illegally qualify for in-state college tuition rates. Assholes.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2014 04:19 AM (mx5oN)

197 Caffeine required. SAD fully engaged; gloom, gray, rain maxed out. $15/hr minimum wage inoperative. Therapist wanted, please list satisfied customer referrals.

Posted by: Maximillius Fail at May 02, 2014 04:20 AM (h7FkS)

198 On the plus side,Mrs VIA's childhood friend's son just graduated from the Washington DC Police Academy,and is now a sworn Officer of the law in that fair city.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 02, 2014 04:20 AM (tDrpG)

199 This is like waking up in The Twilight Zone. And you know what's really weird? In a few years, because history is written by the Woodwards and the Bernsteins, this period will really turn out to be 'the time when the rise of the ocean began to slow, and the planet began to heal". Weirder - The Republicans will really be seen as obstructionists instead of facilitators. So - if it's any consolation - it all works out in the end. Val-u-rite... val-u-rite... don't tell me I drank all of it again.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 02, 2014 04:20 AM (BZAd3)

200

>>>>The cops either work for all of us or are in reality theMedia'd siblings in Democrat Lapdog land.

 

I'm no friend of thug cops, yet I'll say this: Too much money can be made in a police dept from supplying doorkickers, which comes at the sacrifice of regular police work and staff development. As ever, you get what you pay for. It results in a police environment thats too quick to assault, looks for sensational busts rather than plodding through careful and working up a case thoroughly. I do wonder how many even know how to do that anymore. Given those "tools" it isn't any wonder that they'll percieve their jobs as defending the interests of the propertied, the connected, the powers that be. Gotta be good guys and bad guys for those kinds of scenarios, natch.

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at May 02, 2014 04:20 AM (3ZtZW)

201 188 LincolnTF, "Mistake by the Lake" and all that .... 189 Fenlon Spoke, Heh....I think I'm under er over uh less popular ma'am....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 04:20 AM (C5qsK)

202 >>I've been looking to move to pa, the property taxes shocked the shit out of me and I live in jersey which has the highest average property taxes in the country. My husband is retiring from the military next year and we were talking about where we might want to live. He'd always wanted to go back near where his family lives, but the gun laws and homeschooling laws in PA, NJ and DE are discouraging that. We didn't even get as far as considering taxes! Since he's not retiring-retiring, we'll go where there's a job. If I had to pick a place on the map today, I'd choose DFW for a bunch of reasons. And not just so I could go to a Moron Meet Up!

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 02, 2014 04:20 AM (SUKHu)

203

191: "Just wait until the entre US is as screwed up as New Mexico's gotten on LE matters."

 

Not to be inflamatory or incite anything, but if they try to give me the kind of probing that dude got, someone is getting shot.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 04:20 AM (OJn3e)

204 Gallup Poll: Half The Residents in Illinois, Connecticut and Maryland Want To Get The Hell Out. heh.


Who has the concession on fences?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 07:19 AM (d0Dmj)


Fences yes, especially around Texas, as I do NOT want them here.  Because I guaran-damn-tee you these out-of-state d-bags we have already been flooded with, who made cesspools out of the states they came from, are going to try to do the same thing here. 

Posted by: The Oort Cloud at May 02, 2014 04:20 AM (l1Nun)

205 Eagle fans have that locked up tight Let me describe the final 100 feet to the entrance of an Eagles game... Every square inch of horizontal space where you could set something down... is covered with a booze bottle... Every trash can is overflowing with bottles. More bottles are stacked all around it. On the first play, when everyone exhales at once, a cloud of ethanol fills the stadium. I'm not a teetotaler, but it's unbelievable the fans are as civilized as they are.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 04:20 AM (HaoMv)

206 187 -

You can suggest it, but you have no idea what you are talking about. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 04:21 AM (BeSEI)

207 SEPa, the school district with gas is Elk Lake. Montrose is a good school, but taxes are a little more expensive than EL. We also are home to the county's only Vo-Tech school and natatorium. It is a good school district, still conservatively run for the most part. We have AP classes, top notch facilities, small class sizes (for those who like that) and as an alum, I feel like I received a quality education.

Posted by: pforeman at May 02, 2014 04:21 AM (vF5An)

208 How the 'Jesus' Wife' Hoax Fell ApartThe media loved the 2012 tale from Harvard Divinity School. "It is perhaps understandable that Ms. King would have been taken in when an anonymous owner presented her with some papyrus fragments for research. What is harder to understand was the rush by the media and others to embrace the idea that Jesus had a wife and that Christian beliefs have been mistaken for centuries. No evidence for Jesus having been married exists in any of the thousands of orthodox biblical writings dating to antiquity. You would have thought Thomas Aquinas might have mentioned it. But this episode is not totally without merit. It will provide a valuable case study for research classes long after we're gone and the biblical texts remain."

http://tinyurl.com/or8xj6e

Jesus    1
Media  0

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2014 04:22 AM (GGCsk)

209 Why the hell would federal regulators have to check at the dealership level if cars are fuel standard compliant? Isn't this something that should be checked at the manufacturing level. Hell, I don't think it should be checked at all. This is pure harassment.

Posted by: no good deed at May 02, 2014 04:23 AM (ILBCY)

210 I can't there is not more outrage that the "Dude" guy actually had/has a job in this incompetent obama admin. THAT is the best we can do? Then as a Country we do not deserve to survive. Anyone have a Berlitz book on learning Chinese?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 04:24 AM (t3UFN)

211 153 136 - I think it is not unreasonable to start with an assumption the cops acted lawfully, because they usually do. You then adjust accordingly, depending on the circumstance. I also happen to think it's very very unreasonable to start with a premise that "cops are thugs," and then go looking for every sensational news story that shows a possibility of cops acting out of line as the evidence for one's premise. Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 08:00 AM (BeSEI) I used to give cops the benefit of the doubt. Then I started reading seizure cases, police brutality cases, Radley Balko's articles, and seeing more and more videos like this one. Now my assumptions have completely flipped, based on their behavior.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2014 04:24 AM (mx5oN)

212 Who is this guy Matt Gross with the stupid hat?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 04:24 AM (t3UFN)

213 Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2014 08:22 AM (GGCsk) Right on the rim of the barrel there. And forget Thomas Aquinas. You'd think *Josephus* would have mentioned it- being a more antagonistic historian.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 04:25 AM (PYAXX)

214 149 Good morning y'all, last day in Charleston, it's been fun, love the south, and it's lovely here. I think I may have spotted Vic in his rocker a few times

Posted by: Spypeach at May 02, 2014 07:59 AM (PzZld)


Not me.  I haven't been to Charleston in several years.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 04:25 AM (T2V/1)

215 WSJ: How the 'Jesus' Wife' Hoax Fell Apart

The media loved the 2012 tale from Harvard Divinity School

''It is perhaps understandable that Ms. King would have been taken in when
an anonymous owner presented her with some papyrus fragments for
research. What is harder to understand was the rush by the media and
others to embrace the idea that Jesus had a wife and that Christian
beliefs have been mistaken for centuries. No evidence for Jesus having
been married exists in any of the thousands of orthodox biblical
writings dating to antiquity. You would have thought Thomas Aquinas
might have mentioned it. But this episode is not totally without
merit. It will provide a valuable case study for research classes long
after we're gone and the biblical texts remain."

http://tinyurl.com/or8xj6e

Jesus    1
Media   0

.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2014 04:26 AM (GGCsk)

216 Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2014 08:24 AM (mx5oN) Ooo! And don't forget asset seizure for the crime of carrying too much money in your car.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 04:26 AM (PYAXX)

217 So I am watching "Engineering Disasters" on Huricane Katrina and I think looking back this is THE episode that made me start to turn on History as being a final bulwark against idiocy....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 04:27 AM (C5qsK)

218 Entitled Obama Voter: Crazy lady claims slavery entitles her to a free cup of waterÂ… #ViralVideo http://tinyurl.com/nhyyfva

Posted by: --- at May 02, 2014 04:27 AM (MMC8r)

219 194 -

Oh absolutely, I understand why they are getting a bad reputation.  As you suggest though, it really is a two-way street.

As more and more people who encounter cops are lawless, and as governments create policies where the officers are as a routine  expected to be more aggressive, it's going to get worse and worse for law-abiding citizens.

We're losing something  here.  No question  about it, but  it's a chicken/egg thing, and if the question  is whether cops are more thuggish, or their jobs are more  dangerous because  people they  meet  are increasingly hostile toward them, I'm guessing the  former is more a response to the latter, rather than vice versa. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 04:27 AM (BeSEI)

220

192: "If the first words out of your mouth to being questioned by a cop are "f'ing pig" or some variant thereof, you're probably doing it wrong."

 

On that I would heartily agree. That's just common sense. I in no way advocate for being a juvenile dumbass or copping an attitude.

 

But I no longer view the police as friends or protectors. I now know that they are not there to help me. They are there to generate revenue for the state and enforce its decrees.

 

I will no longer cooperate with the enforcers. But please note that not cooperating is not the same as resisting. It isn't bad enough yet for resisting.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 04:27 AM (LJpVo)

221 Hey Sven ! I been looking for you.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 04:27 AM (oMKp3)

222 &b"Will no one rid me of these meddlesome racial clowns”&/b — Henry II, king of England

Posted by: Donald Schoenstein at May 02, 2014 04:27 AM (e8kgV)

223 215 Allen G, Rendering LE as little more than licensed thugs. We've ben in a smiley face police state since probably Bush the Elder.....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 04:28 AM (C5qsK)

224 Ooo! And don't forget asset seizure for the crime of carrying too much money in your car And shooting a 7 week old puppy for attacking them.. They've earned it.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 04:28 AM (ltXvY)

225 "Onward. my soul, through weariness, sickness, times of dryness, flares of temper, weakness of mind, the snares of the devil and other people; through suspicions, jealousies, evil imaginations, and prejudices! Let us soar like an eagle above all these clouds, with eyes always fixed on the sun and on its rays of light, which represent our obligations. Doubtless we may feel these trials. It is not for us to be insensitive , but let us remember that our life is not a life of feeling. Let us live in the higher regions of the soul where God and his will form an eternity, where there is no variation of shadow due to change." Jean Pierre de Caussade Spiritual Director (1675-1751) From "The Joy of Full Surrender" originally called "Abandonment to Divine Providence "

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2014 04:28 AM (XyM/Y)

226 >>Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 08:25 AM (PYAXX) <<

That you even interpreted my post lends more credibility to your analysis than these fools with a meme in search of evidence.

For the life of me, you are correct. Why are people searching for obscure, incredulous, disconnected pieces of writing when the complete body of credible literature and writing is widely know.

Answer. They are trying to falsely back up their preconceived notions.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2014 04:29 AM (GGCsk)

227 the school district with gas is Elk Lake Posted by: pforeman at May 02, 2014 08:21 AM (vF5An) Elk Lake Junior/Senior High gets a '6' rating. Just for comparison, the two nearest school districts in my area have a '9' and a '10' rating. I can't afford them, but they do get bang for the buck. I hope buyers appreciate them when I hang the sign out front.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 04:29 AM (HaoMv)

228 Morning, all!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2014 04:29 AM (8zTpe)

229

@162  Didn't know that.  Live and learn.-panzernashorn

 

yep, I know quite a few people who are exempt.  If it's your legal residents on your property-no tax.  They also have a reduced tax rate if you build on vacant land called a homestead.  It takes a couple of years after you build a home but when it kicks in it reduces your tax.  I have a 1400 sf home on 3 acres and only pay around $120 a year.

Posted by: Case at May 02, 2014 04:29 AM (9mWut)

230 Sven - little winger may be down at Ft. Jackson for three weeks starting soon. He should know more by this weekend.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 04:29 AM (oMKp3)

231 192: "If the first words out of your mouth to being questioned by a cop are "f'ing pig" or some variant thereof, you're probably doing it wrong." And so I present to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the po

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 04:29 AM (t3UFN)

232

205: "You can suggest it, but you have no idea what you are talking about"

 

Allow me to retort. You have no idea what I know.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 04:29 AM (f6ZLT)

233 220 Grammie Winger, I've had a hard week. My uncle died this month and my foster brothers' wife's mom died.... Add in my love of New England and I sat it out....then banned myself.... Been a weird one

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 04:30 AM (C5qsK)

234 Or arrive later! 4 of us holding each other's hand for an hour and then BOOM! That's a lot of choruses of "Kumbiyah"...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/s] [/u] at May 02, 2014 04:31 AM (dbboL)

235 sven

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at May 02, 2014 04:32 AM (u8GsB)

236 229 Gramie Winger, Let me know I'll give you pinters on the area... I'm on twitter @sven10077

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 04:32 AM (C5qsK)

237 Burt- I don't care why they are thugs, I care that they are thugs.

Just as I am not interested in the trials and tribulations of the mugger who was raised by a single mom in a drug infested neighborhood, I could care less that the cop who caves my head in has a bad chief, and is used to patrolling the worst end of town.


But to your point of origin- I think cops need an outside influence with some authority who can remind them that they are not a gang and all citizens are not "shitbirds" or "scumbags".

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 04:32 AM (IVgIK)

238 Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 08:27 AM (BeSEI) I think the biggest problem is the march to the police-state. We have literal "pre-crimes." Even given that drinking and driving should be a crime (I've expounded on why that shouldn't be before), why should it be a crime to sit in your car after you've had a couple beers? Yet it technically is, if you turn on your car. "Operating a motor vehicle while under the influence" or some-such. As I mentioned before, simply carrying a large amount of cash in your car is seen as evidence of a crime (what crime? Oh, we'll think of one), so they can seize both the car and the money- then have fun trying to get either (let alone both) back. Neither of those are a "response" to a cop's job being "more dangerous." And "I'm just doing my job" *seriously* doesn't cut it as an explanation. So that reduces the public's trust in the police, and "the system" in general.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 04:32 AM (PYAXX)

239 I'm sorry that you're going through all of that, Sven.  Prayers. 

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 02, 2014 04:32 AM (PFy0L)

240 Not me. I haven't been to Charleston in several years. I guess now I know why he looked at me funny when I called him a moron.

Posted by: Spypeach at May 02, 2014 04:33 AM (2MUAc)

241 5/2. Another chance to validate the simple fact that coming to work still drunk >>> coming to work hung over.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at May 02, 2014 04:34 AM (Bx21z)

242 What is this; pay-me-no-mind week? Morning, Vic. Actually your name came up as the moron we'd most like to meet in person. Meet Vic, yes, but on his porch!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/s] [/u] at May 02, 2014 04:34 AM (dbboL)

243 I'm not on the Twit, Sven. But I'll let you know if and when he's coming and maybe you can post something here. I'm so sorry about your family losses. Big hugs to you.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 04:34 AM (oMKp3)

244 AoS HQ: The only place on the planet where calling someone a "moron" does not rate a punch in the throat.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2014 04:35 AM (GGCsk)

245 Horde, I have a dilemma. I don't know if I'm too happy or not happy enough about this. http://nydn.us/1jnVuFG

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 02, 2014 04:35 AM (mf5HN)

246 Sorry about the deaths in your family, sven.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2014 04:36 AM (XyM/Y)

247 We have school districts in the suburbs near Scranton with high ratings like that. They have sky high taxes, teacher strikes, big layoffs, deficit budgets and big drug problems. I'd not trade my '6' for their 10 any day. We have 90 student graduating classes and teachers who know all the students personally. Teachers that come to know your iids and go out of their way to help get them into college, get them scholarships and help them succeed in life.

Posted by: pforeman at May 02, 2014 04:36 AM (vF5An)

248

243: "The only place on the planet where calling someone a "moron" does not rate a punch in the throat"

 

I thought even the act of breathing warranted a throat punch. We just have our punishments postponed at whim?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 04:36 AM (OJn3e)

249 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 02, 2014 08:35 AM (mf5HN) I don't think "too happy" is a possibility.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 04:37 AM (PYAXX)

250 I always start out all polite like with a cop and encourage my crew (all younger guys) to do the same. I absolutely don't trust them, it has been my experience that they have no respect for the average law abiding citizens. They only see us as criminals in waiting. I've told more than one he's gonna have to figure out who's side he is on when the time comes. They are the ones hiding in the bullet proof rooms while we roam free ( walk into any station if you think I'm wrong)

Posted by: NativeNH at May 02, 2014 04:37 AM (lc3/d)

251 238 John Tant, Thanks I guess what hurts is the guilt I feel for not being home more. The Uncle who died was the retire fire captain he was aged 70 which is sorta young for his generation but.... Wife's dad died at 73... You have to force yourself to remember we are not guaranteed a length just a span. I miss my family.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 04:37 AM (C5qsK)

252 No matter how bad things seem, just remember that you could be stuck in a car with Gabe on a cross country trip and he had sole control of the music.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 02, 2014 04:37 AM (eEBON)

253 RE: No property tax on your home after age 65.  Here in my shitty county the only  people who get  an exemption on home property tax are disabled vets.  At age 65 you get a 5K exemption from the value of the home.   IOW if your home is assessed at 100K you pay taxes on 95K.


I keep haranguing wife about moving to WY.  Depending on what county you live in here this is really a high tax State for the South.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 04:37 AM (T2V/1)

254 Morons I'd most like to meet-

Fenelon
Africa chick
Mary Poppins Perfect etc


But I am afraid that meeting any of you would ruin the fun I have making you up in my head.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 04:38 AM (IVgIK)

255 I have known many cops for many years. Some are assholes. The vast majority are trying to serve their fellow man. We see these horror stories now and I wonder why. I think the answer is it is because of the people we elect to public office. Many people, including me, think that the government is no longer on our side. That creates all sorts of animosity.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 02, 2014 04:38 AM (ee9LE)

256 Are certain words creeping into his conversation? Words like, like "swell"? A-ha! And "So's your old man"! Well, if so, my friends (cue the music), "Ya got trouble!..."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/s] [/u] at May 02, 2014 04:39 AM (dbboL)

257

 >>>I think cops need an outside influence with some authority who can remind them that they are not a gang and all citizens are not "shitbirds" or "scumbags".

 

It would have to be someone with widely recognised authority, maybe voted on by the whole populace so they'll have a mandate from the people...

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at May 02, 2014 04:39 AM (3ZtZW)

258 [ii]I don't know if I'm too happy or not happy enough about this. Minus style points for not referring to her as #Abortion Barbie.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 04:39 AM (HaoMv)

259 So the "Dude" guy Tommy what's his name is leaving-or has left-being a National Security Spokesperson so that he can form a Public Relations firm with Jon boy-what's his name, Obama's former speechwriter who was photographed drinking a beer while he was groping the breast of a Hillary Cut Out. Adults all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2014 04:39 AM (XyM/Y)

260 "I don't know if I'm too happy or not happy enough about this." The only thing I know is that it confirms my theory that complete lack of self-awareness is a requirement to be a lefty.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 02, 2014 04:39 AM (HLprW)

261 251 No matter how bad things seem, just remember that you could be stuck in a car with Gabe on a cross country trip and he had sole control of the music. Posted by: Countrysquire at May 02, 2014 08:37 AM (eEBON) Oh dear God. I'd rather listen to "Everything is Awesome" on continuous loop.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2014 04:40 AM (mx5oN)

262 By the way, two Troopers were shot to death in Alaska yesterday.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 02, 2014 04:40 AM (ee9LE)

263 Hail Hydra, you see why I'm never cynical enough, in that light, a former congressman who has some finance irregularities, is getting back into a local race,
'throat punching' the local Democratic stooge,

Posted by: arnim zola at May 02, 2014 04:40 AM (8sqvd)

264 Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 08:38 AM (IVgIK) Well, thank very much; I'm afraid I would terribly disappoint someone if my real self didn't match their image of me. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2014 04:41 AM (XyM/Y)

265 I miss my family. Posted by: sven10077 at May 02, 2014 08:37 AM (C5qsK) {{{{Sven}}}}

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 04:41 AM (oMKp3)

266 160 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 02, 2014 07:43 AM (kdS6q) ------- That sucks. You want even more outrage? In Virginia, illegal alien spawn can go to colleges here now at the non-resident rate. There was a bill this session to give the spawn the in-state rate, which did not pass. VA Attorney General Mark Herring, who won his seat by like 300 votes, announced that no, actually the spawn can use the in-state rate. This whole shit business of illegal alien's kids getting in state rates is fucked. Aside from the principle of it, the reality is that the colleges only have a set number of slots for in state tuition rates. An illegal alien who breaks all the rules can get his kids into a college and pay the subsidized rate, while an actual citizen's kids, who have grown up in the state and worked hard, get wait listed...because diversity or something. No joke...there are students with 4.2 GPAs who are getting wait listed at James Madison University. Posted by: @JohnTant at May 02, 2014 08:02 AM (PFy0L) --- Maryland allows in-state tuition rates. Motherfuckers.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at May 02, 2014 04:42 AM (N/cFh)

267

I don't know if I'm too happy or not happy enough about this.

 

--------

 

I had roughly the same dilemma until I decided to send the Davis campaign an email saying that even the DGA can see what a loser she is.  Suddenly my schadenfreude reached new heights.  So "not happy enough" is your answer.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 02, 2014 04:42 AM (PFy0L)

268 I'd rather listen to "Everything is Awesome" on continuous loop. I didn't know you know my kids.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 04:42 AM (PYAXX)

269 Some of my best friend in CA were Oakland cops.  Used to hang out with them and go drinking.  They were ice guys.  I was always default to being on the cops side.  But there have been too many stories lately about rogue cops, no knock drug raids in the wrong house, shooting grandma, shooting dog, and beating the shit out of someone for no reason.


That has changed my mind. 

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 04:43 AM (T2V/1)

270 One of my most goals in life is to NEVER get pulled over by a cop again. So, I drink at home and then don't go out. I don't run red lights. I don't speed (> 5 mph over). Not many Andys. Too many Barneys. And these Barneys have a full clip.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 02, 2014 04:43 AM (V70Uh)

271 Meet Vic, yes, but on his porch!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at May 02, 2014 08:34 AM (dbboL)

 

Just stay off the grass 

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at May 02, 2014 04:44 AM (M+evy)

272

267: "I didn't know you know my kids."

 

We'd have "C is for Cookie" singalongs on road trips. Now I do it just to aggravate the wife.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 04:44 AM (f6ZLT)

273 Morning, all!   What fresh hell?



Oh, and before I forget:  I will be largely persona non grata   around here next week as I'm traveling for a conference.  I don't know whether I'll have internet access whilst I'm away, and if I do it will only be in the late afternoon/early evening, so you won't see me around here during the day like usual,    gracing you all with my special form of cynical sunshine.   I only mention this because the last time I was away for a week I came back to a lot of anxious messages and, "WHERE WERE YOU!!??" questions.   It was flattering, of course, but I wouldn't want anyone to worry unnecessarily. 



Oh, and if you know any hobos   in or around downtown Louisville?     Better tell them to clear out.    There's a soulless ginger on her way to town.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 04:44 AM (4df7R)

274 Alex G. got more than her fair share of personality. Just sayin'.

Posted by: MTF at May 02, 2014 04:44 AM (F58x4)

275 Horde, I have a dilemma.


I don't know if I'm too happy or not happy enough about this.

http://nydn.us/1jnVuFG




Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 02, 2014 08:35 AM (mf5HN)




It is physically impossible to be too happy about that news.   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 04:44 AM (4df7R)

276 The solution to the problem of illegals getting in-state rate for college is simple.  Get up a petition drive or a voter initiative to remove ALL public finding from colleges.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 04:45 AM (T2V/1)

277 268 Some of my best friend in CA were Oakland cops. Used to hang out with them and go drinking. They were ice guys. I was always default to being on the cops side. But there have been too many stories lately about rogue cops, no knock drug raids in the wrong house, shooting grandma, shooting dog, and beating the shit out of someone for no reason. That has changed my mind. Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 08:43 AM (T2V/1) Yup. That did it for me.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2014 04:46 AM (mx5oN)

278

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at May 02, 2014 08:44 AM (4df7R)

 

-------

 

Oh, Beth, you'll never be persona non grata here.  You'll just be absent for a hopefully short period of time.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 02, 2014 04:46 AM (PFy0L)

279 "... a homestead. It takes a couple of years after you build a home but when it kicks in it reduces your tax..." I should have mentioned this too when talking about Michigan. If it's your primary residence, you get a "homestead" deduction that cuts the tax in half. So if I lived up at the cabin, the taxes would have been less.

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2014 04:46 AM (u2a4R)

280

>>>I miss my family.

 

Sorry, sven

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at May 02, 2014 04:46 AM (3ZtZW)

281 Nevergiveup, here is the Brett Baier interview with ex-White House spokeskid Tommy Vietor, who looks like a senior in high school  The entire interview is excellent.  But to get to the "dude" comment, fast forward to around the 6 minute mark.  I still can't believe he said this.  Oh, and btw, I have a serious crush on Brett Baier. 

http://tinyurl.com/lvsh9k4

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 02, 2014 04:46 AM (tsGZY)

282 Oh, Beth, you'll never be persona non grata here. You'll just be absent for a hopefully short period of time.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 02, 2014 08:46 AM (PFy0L)



Awwww.  *blushies*    Y'all are sweet.



Also,  {{{{{{{{{{sven}}}}}}}}}}}}

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 04:47 AM (4df7R)

283 If this doesn't open your eyes to our "conservative" representatives in congress (and elsewhere), then nothing will: https://tinyurl.com/nzxatqo So-called "conservatives" in congress standing staunchly against the first pro-capitalism, small government leader in India in - like - forever. This is some serious bullshit and it shines a very bright light on how deeply rotten our political system has become. The trite litter jabs at how our country is becoming a banana republic shouldn't be seen as trivial at all. Our country is seething gangrenous ooze.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 02, 2014 04:47 AM (BZAd3)

284 My job requires me to work third shift during the winter, not getting pulled over is not an option, they always find a reason. After the first month or so they know what's up and leave ya alone

Posted by: NativeNH at May 02, 2014 04:48 AM (lc3/d)

285 We have school districts in the suburbs near Scranton with high ratings like that. They have sky high taxes, teacher strikes, big layoffs, deficit budgets and big drug problems. I'd not trade my '6' for their 10 any day. We have 90 student graduating classes and teachers who know all the students personally. Teachers that come to know your iids and go out of their way to help get them into college, get them scholarships and help them succeed in life. I was curious if having all that royalty money equated to a better rating. I was kinda shocked when I looked at the rating of a school district in a town in NC I'm considering -- it scored a '3'. But I don't give a crap, kids are flown the coop. I don't know the criteria that rating people use. I'm just checking to confirm my bias that more money doesn't equal better results.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 04:48 AM (HaoMv)

286 >>I only mention this because the last time I was away for a week I came back to a lot of anxious messages and, "WHERE WERE YOU!!??" questions. Good of you to preempt that. Now, as a reward, we shall start rumors of why you aren't here.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 02, 2014 04:49 AM (SUKHu)

287 237 -

You'll probably never get me to agree on the matter of vehicles and intoxication.  I would probably  go so far as to suggest  if you  stagger out  of a bar,  swinging  your car keys on your finger,  or  are  pointing  and clicking your key fob at every vehicle on  the lot that looks even remotely like yours, you should be arrested.

As for large amounts of cash?  Who is carrying cash?  How much cash? 

My guess is most people driving around with wads of cash these days ARE up to no good,  but yeah, I would think they need more evidence than that...  like if you are sitting  at a corner where known drug dealers congregate, or something  along those lines. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 04:49 AM (BeSEI)

288 Nevergiveup, here is the Brett Baier interview with ex-White House spokeskid Tommy Vietor, who looks like a senior in high school The entire interview is excellent. But to get to the "dude" comment, fast forward to around the 6 minute mark. I still can't believe he said this. Oh, and btw, I have a serious crush on Brett Baier.

http://tinyurl.com/lvsh9k4

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 02, 2014 08:46 AM (tsGZY)



The utter lack of professionalism is   something that is    all too common in those related to the    current   clusterfuck of an "administration."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 04:49 AM (4df7R)

289 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 02, 2014 08:35 AM

If your co-workers aren't saying 'I'll have what she's having,' you're no where near happy enough.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2014 04:50 AM (knoK7)

290 It is physically impossible to be too happy about that news. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at May 02, 2014 08:44 AM (4df7R) Is a possible Hail Mary to pump up a dying campaign (by giving her the chance to rail against DC and her party, both of which are not liked in Texas.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at May 02, 2014 04:51 AM (HDwDg)

291 Why in the fuck should driving around with a suitcase full of one's own $20s ever be illegal? Are we going down the pre-crime route? Sheesh...

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at May 02, 2014 04:52 AM (Bx21z)

292

 >>>in or around downtown Louisville?

 

Nice place. I think you missed the Humana Festival though. The Troll Cafe is pretty cool and not so tourist trappy as it seems. Good browns there.

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at May 02, 2014 04:52 AM (3ZtZW)

293 I just remembered the last name of the guy Tommy Vietor is starting a PR firm with-Jon Favreau.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2014 04:52 AM (XyM/Y)

294 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at May 02, 2014 08:44 AM

*grabs MWR's leg*

Nooooooo!!!!  Where will we get our epic rants?!  Don't leave us!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2014 04:53 AM (knoK7)

295 The latest IRS study of taxpayer migration shows Americans are still fleeing high tax blue States and heading South to low tax red States. Let's just pray that they do not bring the same voting and attitudes that made their State high tax to begin with. They migrate and proliferate, like a toe fungus.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at May 02, 2014 04:53 AM (thLL8)

296 Good of you to preempt that.

Now, as a reward, we shall start rumors of why you aren't here.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 02, 2014 08:49 AM (SUKHu)



CRAP.


Okay, let me get the ball   rolling:     I have secretly ventured up to Toronto and am   spending a week    hiding     in Tom Hiddleston's luggage as he films  Crimson Peak.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 04:54 AM (4df7R)

297 The incidents (of a wide variety) by law enforcement, by the IRS, by DHS, by BLM and all of the myriad other militarized enforcement arms of our imperial government, aren't random. They serve a purpose. They serve to make people fearful of 'agents' of the government. And it is working. Shit we became the ruled years ago. It's just now starting to sink in.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 02, 2014 04:54 AM (BZAd3)

298 More money comes with a price. The nice thing here is that with royalties, our school is able to complete upgrades without raising taxes. The school has received about $2 million over the last 2 years. That is in a school with a $16 million budget. Most school board members are Rs, as is the district (we are part of the red T in PA) and people are pretty vocal whenever there was talk of raising taxes.

Posted by: pforeman at May 02, 2014 04:54 AM (vF5An)

299 33 30 Yup. I think we're gonna need a bigger room next time, or smaller people Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 07:00 AM (t3UFN) Or arrive later! 4 of us holding each other's hand for an hour and then BOOM! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 07:01 AM (CMkNk) Crap.I arrived late as I was stuck in traffic on a NJ Transit bus...I missed the hand-holding.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at May 02, 2014 04:54 AM (EJ/Tn)

300

286: "My guess is most people driving around with wads of cash these days ARE up to no good, but yeah, I would think they need more evidence than that... like if you are sitting at a corner where known drug dealers congregate, or something along those lines."

 

I would prefer to have a constitutional Republic where citizens are only arrested for commiting an actual crime. 

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 04:54 AM (OJn3e)

301 Today is our last nine-to-five day of lectures. We have a week of graded lab demonstrations, a few reading days, and a week of finals ahead. Then a long and self-directed summer before our fourth and final year.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at May 02, 2014 04:54 AM (a5ljo)

302 >>>My guess is most people driving around with wads of cash these days ARE up to no good, but yeah, I would think they need more evidence than that... like if you are sitting at a corner where known drug dealers congregate, or something along those lines.


Do you know any contractors? Some people pay in cash. Sometimes they even insist.
Have you ever bought a private sale vehicle? Cash is the way the deal happens.



Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 04:54 AM (IVgIK)

303 I just remembered the last name of the guy Tommy Vietor is starting a PR firm with-Jon Favreau.

--

Go watch the clip I posted in #280, around the 6 minute mark.  I'm aghast.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 02, 2014 04:54 AM (tsGZY)

304 Time to go folks.  Maybe I'll get to see the Dr this time.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 02, 2014 04:54 AM (T2V/1)

305

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

 

-Frank Zappa

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at May 02, 2014 04:55 AM (3ZtZW)

306 Hey, here's happy news for AtC Vince Young is going to the Browns Woohoo.... Super Bowl bound!!!

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 04:56 AM (/fhBu)

307 The usual excuse to pull you over lately is you have a "dim bulb" I usually respond with " I think you just wanted to smell my breath, and you're the only dim bulb around here" I casually know most of them,so it's not totally smart assed just enough

Posted by: NativeNH at May 02, 2014 04:56 AM (lc3/d)

308 You'll probably never get me to agree on the matter of vehicles and intoxication. I would probably go so far as to suggest if you stagger out of a bar, swinging your car keys on your finger, or are pointing and clicking your key fob at every vehicle on the lot that looks even remotely like yours, you should be arrested. I'll quote Captain America on this one: "Time was we used to wait until someone had committed a crime before we punished them for it." As for large amounts of cash? Who is carrying cash? How much cash? Anyone, and any amount over a couple thousand dollars. It's assumed, you see, that you're up to no good. And maybe most people carrying that amount of cash aren't, but even in your scenario- no. Simply having the cash- even having the cash and being parked where drug deals often happen- is not evidence of any crime. We jumped the shark the moment we started to believe we should arrest/fine people for behavior which could lead to a crime.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 04:56 AM (PYAXX)

309 Posted by: NativeNH at May 02, 2014 08:48 AM (lc3/d)

I used to work nights, drove from New Boston (almost in Francestown) to Amherst. Got pulled over a lot until they started to recognize the car.

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 02, 2014 04:57 AM (qRDBx)

310 I think Tommy Vietor was being intentionally flip as a distraction and as a FU to Fox news. This is Obama's way of saying "you van ask questions, but we don't have to answer." Compare the "Dude, that was, like, 2 years ago" to Obama during his debate w/Romney where he got all (fake) badass "I will hunt down the killers" - it just makes it worse that he's pulling this "old news" crap now that he's safely re-elected. It starts around 1:11:53 http://neoneocon.com/2012/10/19/follow-up-was-there-collusion-between-obama-and-crowley/

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2014 04:57 AM (8zTpe)

311 >>I have secretly ventured up to Toronto and am spending a week hiding in Tom Hiddleston's luggage as he films Crimson Peak. Hmm. Interesting theory. I shall weigh that against "I thought I heard someone got arrested at the MoMe". Tough call...

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 02, 2014 04:57 AM (SUKHu)

312 Yes, I saw that clip. I'm assuming that he was sent there to stick one in the eye of Fox News. Unfortunately, their PR firm will get a lot of business from Democrat politicians.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2014 04:57 AM (XyM/Y)

313 *grabs MWR's leg*

Nooooooo!!!! Where will we get our epic rants?! Don't leave us!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2014 08:53 AM (knoK7)




Pfft!   AtC's rants are infinitely more epic than mine, and    far more eloquent.     And let's not forget AllenG, who really needs to get a blog.





Why in the fuck should driving around with a suitcase full of one's own $20s ever be illegal? Are we going down the pre-crime route? Sheesh...

Posted by: akula51 at May 02, 2014 08:52 AM (Bx21z)



Why yes.  Yes we are.   Fun, isn't it?




I would prefer to have a constitutional Republic where citizens are only arrested forcommiting an actual crime.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 08:54 AM (OJn3e)




What the hell are you, some kind of   rightwing extremist whackobird?  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 04:58 AM (4df7R)

314 It is physically impossible to be too happy about that news. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at May 02, 2014 08:44 AM (4df7R) I will admit that my initial response, subsequent to the pointing and laughing, was well, sweetie, this should be no surprise to you as I'm reasonably certain you are familiar with being ridden hard and put away wet.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 02, 2014 04:58 AM (mf5HN)

315 Is a possible Hail Mary to pump up a dying campaign (by giving her the chance to rail against DC and her party, both of which are not liked in Texas.) Possible, but unlikely. Texas Democrats (that would be: her base) *do* like the DNC. No, this is them saying "we're not throwing good money after bad."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 04:58 AM (PYAXX)

316

Not sure for what occassion, but I would like to see Ace work this video into a post.

http://tinyurl.com/jwknr54 

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 02, 2014 04:59 AM (eEBON)

317 Over at American Thinker "Tommy Vietor started working for Barack Obama when he was still Senator Obama--well before he became a presidential candidate--and until Friday, the 32-year-old Vietor hadn't stopped. His first job for Obama was as the driver of a press van, and he rose up the ranks through the 2008 campaign, and then the White House press office, to become the National Security Council spokesman." Top. . Men

Posted by: Maximillius Fail at May 02, 2014 04:59 AM (h7FkS)

318 Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 08:56 AM (/fhBu) That's just mean.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 04:59 AM (PYAXX)

319

312: "What the hell are you, some kind of rightwing extremist whackobird?"

 

Why yes. Yes I am. The esteemed senator from Arizona even said so. 

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 05:00 AM (v6cwT)

320 307

As  you  suggested  however, they are impounding the cash, and making it difficult  for someone  to get it back.  That's not the same as arresting someone for just having large amounts of cash. 

I'm sure it gets  abused.  I'm sure there are people who have legitimate reasons for carrying around cash,  who have it confiscated, and then have a difficult time getting it back.

That's injustice. 

We have lots of it in this world.  For some reason though, I'm not thinking this is the  worst  of it. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 05:00 AM (BeSEI)

321 I used to work nights, drove from New Boston (almost in Francestown) to Amherst. Got pulled over a lot until they started to recognize the car.

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 02, 2014 08:57 AM (qRDBx)]



New Boston to Amherst?   Also known as "lots of rich people live around here"-ville.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 05:00 AM (4df7R)

322 MWR?

Perished in the recent Sherpa avalanche on Mt. Everest.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 05:00 AM (IVgIK)

323 Oh, and if you know any hobos in or around downtown Louisville? Better tell them to clear out. There's a soulless ginger on her way to town.


Ginger is coming.



All hobos must die.



Posted by: EC at May 02, 2014 05:00 AM (GQ8sn)

324 I'll say this about my top-rated school district -- I went to a 'parents night' once. Major 'chubbie' all night long. Anyone remember Van Halens 'Hot for teacher'? Like that. Classroom to classroom nothing but young hot female teachers. A few token males sprinkled in the math and sciences. I need to apply for a government grant to examine the possibility of a correlation.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 05:01 AM (HaoMv)

325 317. If young got signed by the bears do you think there would be comments like "oh hell joe, that sucks, we feel for you"?

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 05:01 AM (/fhBu)

326 Surprised we haven't been presented with a Wendy Davis sex tape yet. Damn you, National Enquirer, get to work!

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 02, 2014 05:01 AM (ZshNr)

327 "Pfft! AtC's rants are infinitely more epic than mine, and far more eloquent. And let's not forget AllenG, who really needs to get a blog.
"

*Reluctantly lets go...kicks small rock*

They're still not our favorite assault hobbit.

Seriously, though, have a safe trip, and enjoy the bourbon.  The place should be awash in mint juleps this weekend.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2014 05:01 AM (knoK7)

328 As you suggested however, they are impounding the cash, and making it difficult for someone to get it back. That's not the same as arresting someone for just having large amounts of cash. They do. They arrest you, and impound your car and cash. Then, since you weren't committing a crime, they have to let *you* go. But, you see, your car and cash are still "evidence in an ongoing investigation." It can take *years* to get your stuff back. And it could be avoided if the police kept to their actual job- which is not to "prevent" crime. It is to investigate crime and arrest criminals after a crime has taken place.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 05:02 AM (PYAXX)

329 I pity the delusion of people who actually thought they were going to get "transparency" and someone who was above the fray from Obama-a politician from Chicago. Chicago!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2014 05:02 AM (XyM/Y)

330 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 02, 2014 06:53 AM (CMkNk) =============================== Wish I could have been there to meet you guys and hoist a few.

Posted by: MTF at May 02, 2014 05:02 AM (F58x4)

331 Anyone remember Van Halens 'Hot for teacher'? Like that. Classroom to classroom nothing but young hot female teachers.


LOL!   My son's elementary school was like that.  Young teachers and their teaching assistants.

Posted by: EC at May 02, 2014 05:02 AM (GQ8sn)

332 Tommy Vietor started working for Barack Obama when he was still Senator Obama... Posted by: Maximillius Fail at May 02, 2014 08:59 AM (h7FkS) On thing is certain, with his obvious virtuosity at bald face lying, he has certainly cemented his future in corrupt politics his lifetime, no doubt.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 02, 2014 05:02 AM (BZAd3)

333 Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 09:01 AM (/fhBu) No. But you're a Democrat. Your feelings don't count.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 05:02 AM (PYAXX)

334 268 Some of my best friend in CA were Oakland cops. Used to hang out with them and go drinking. They were ice guys. I was always default to being on the cops side. But there have been too many stories lately about rogue cops, no knock drug raids in the wrong house, shooting grandma, shooting dog, and beating the shit out of someone for no reason. That has changed my mind. Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2014 08:43 AM (T2V/1) Exactly.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 02, 2014 05:02 AM (gE40i)

335 316

Dude, that was like years ago.

Posted by: NCwoof at May 02, 2014 05:02 AM (aUQgu)

336 321 MWR?

Perished in the recent Sherpa avalanche on Mt. Everest.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 09:00 AM (IVgIK)

 

And I lent her all my guns...NOOOOOOO!!!!

Posted by: Bruce Lee's Fist at May 02, 2014 05:03 AM (M+evy)

337 Morning all. “I don’t understand this new world,” Netanyahu complains. “When do they have time to live? They’re taking pictures all the time.” The prime minister then raises his hands, clicking on an imaginary camera. “Only taking pictures, that’s all they do. Pictures, pictures, pictures.” Another unseen voice then tells Netanyahu that “if you did not take a picture, it’s as if you didn’t live,” or take part, in the occurrence. “I’ve lived and did not take a picture,” the prime minister responds. He then comes to the realization that he holds the minority opinion on the matter. “I’m the only one here without all these electronic devices, I’m a free man, and you all are slaves,” he concludes. ”You are slaves!” President Selfie McShitstain hardest hit.

Posted by: RWC at May 02, 2014 05:03 AM (fWAjv)

338 The solution to the problem of illegals getting in-state rate for college is simple. Get up a petition drive or a voter initiative to remove ALL public finding from colleges. Easy way to solve that is to let them register, pick them up when they show up to class, and deport them.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 05:03 AM (ltXvY)

339 MWR?

I heard she had a ticket on a Maylasian airliner...

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 05:03 AM (IVgIK)

340 >>Top. . Men Yep, and Vietor was in the Situation Room during the attack. A flipping van driver Obama loyalist who had no expertise to lend to a very serious situation. Kinda amazing only 4 people died with this crew.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2014 05:03 AM (8zTpe)

341 Wait. Isn't the Brown's mascot a dog? And they hired Michael Vick? I think my irony meter just broke.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 05:04 AM (PYAXX)

342 » And where the freakin' hell does Gabe get this shit "music"? Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry Oh, phew, thanks for the review. I was about to click on it, figuring it must be important if Gabe put it in the "Top Headline Comments" post! Morning, Glories. ____ I am a grumpy webworker. I don't complain much if I can help it, but, my life, my family, is in many aspects a four-way train wreck. When I read the news, it actually makes me feel better, because it takes my mind off my my own miseries for a few moments, gives a coldly comforting perspective, y'know? Sometimes the solipsism kicks in and I think the world's troubles and mine are hard-wired together, like, if I could just balance and set in order affairs in my own sphere, the nation will follow. I'm trying, really, but I make no progress day-to-day. Sorry. If anyone should happen to have a spare prayer lying around not currently being used, though, please nudge the almighty supreme source and center of all creation, parent of every personality, to spare some strengthening of Family, glorious enhancement of Truth, and healing for the good souls long suffering from unearned mortal ailments. Those categories address my list of troubles, generally speaking. And, yes, I did sneak three prayer requests into one there. Think Heaven will object on technical grounds? Back to reading....

Posted by: mindful webworker — not a lost soul, just a faulty GPS at May 02, 2014 05:04 AM (6B4ha)

343 Holy shit is that Vietor guy a smug cock. They really want to trot that guy out? Dude...

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 02, 2014 05:04 AM (pYXiI)

344 I will admit that my initial response, subsequent to the pointing and laughing, was well, sweetie, this should be no surprise to you as I'm reasonably certain you are familiar with being ridden hard and put away wet.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 02, 2014 08:58 AM (mf5HN)



Someone should put that   on a postcard and mail it to her.



Y'know.   Just saying.   *whistles*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 05:04 AM (4df7R)

345 "lots of rich people live around here"-ville."

Heh. I wasn't one of them. Got a sweet deal renting a duplex near Scobie pond. Beat the hell out of living in Nashua. I miss NH a lot.

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 02, 2014 05:04 AM (qRDBx)

346 327. And it could be avoided if the police kept to their actual job- Walk around and drink coffee? Or at least that's what I did and got paid to do it and in Italy and Hawaii!!!! Thanks taxpayers

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 05:05 AM (/fhBu)

347 Dude, where's my president?

Posted by: Tommy Vietor at May 02, 2014 05:05 AM (eEBON)

348

MWR? Oh, she's not here. 


After stalking Tom Hiddleston, the producers at Marvel put her in the next movie as Shamrock:


http://tinyurl.com/47pkh6t

 

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 02, 2014 05:05 AM (PFy0L)

349 Pulls pistols and spins them. Are you tired of this shit? I know I I am.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 02, 2014 05:05 AM (NZd3s)

350 They arrest you, and impound your car and cash. Then, since you weren't committing a crime, they have to let *you* go. But, you see, your car and cash are still "evidence in an ongoing investigation." The really sick part is that this behavior is incentivized. The department gets to keep part of the proceeds from the sale of seized vehicles and a percentage of the cash confiscated.

Posted by: no good deed at May 02, 2014 05:06 AM (ILBCY)

351 Walk around and drink coffee? Or at least that's what I did and got paid to do it and in Italy and Hawaii!!!! I'd rather pay a cop to walk around and drink coffee than steal my stuff.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 05:06 AM (PYAXX)

352 But to get to the "dude" comment, fast forward to around the 6 minute mark. Flashback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xtNr5-up0U (Building a religion by Cake)

Posted by: AmishDude at May 02, 2014 05:06 AM (1UzRc)

353 No...no...Miss MWR is no here....

Posted by: Consuela at May 02, 2014 05:06 AM (knoK7)

354

More economic tinkering by government. Today's alleged drop in unemployment.

Want to know why that rate dropped? We now have the lowest workforce participation number since 1978. Yes. 1978.

The number of people who dropped out of the labor force soared by 988k people.

Lower population of people to use in your math. Magically, your unemployment numbers go down. Poof!

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2014 05:06 AM (GGCsk)

355 I heard she had a ticket on hijacked a Maylasian airliner... Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 09:03 AM (IVgIK) FIFY

Posted by: RWC at May 02, 2014 05:06 AM (fWAjv)

356 So I left Wal-mart yesterday, after returning a set of prescription glasses that just didn't work out. They were unable to credit the $500.00+ dollars back to the debit card. Had to leave with cash. The only time I remember being warned about "Pre-Crime" was in one of the ten suggestions. Thou shalt not covet thine neighbors wife. Now, that right there is a pre-crime.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 02, 2014 05:07 AM (tDrpG)

357 The really sick part is that this behavior is incentivized. The department gets to keep part of the proceeds from the sale of seized vehicles and a percentage of the cash confiscated. Posted by: no good deed at May 02, 2014 09:06 AM (ILBCY) Oh yes, let's not forget that. You start all the filings to get your stuff back, and someone "misfiles" the paperwork. So then your stuff gets sold at auction, and the PD gets to keep that money. OH, whoops, sorry, nothing we can do....

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 05:07 AM (PYAXX)

358 Wait. Isn't the Brown's mascot a dog? I thought it was a D cell battery.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 05:07 AM (ltXvY)

359 I think Tommy Vietor was being intentionally flip as a distraction and as a FU to Fox news. This is Obama's way of saying "you van ask questions, but we don't have to answer."
Compare the "Dude, that was, like, 2 years ago" to Obama during his debate w/Romney where he got all (fake) badass "I will hunt down the killers" - it just makes it worse that he's pulling this "old news" crap now that he's safely re-elected.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2014 08:57 AM (8zTpe)



I'm pretty sure Vietor was sent out to troll us, it's pretty much confirmed by looking at his twitter feed from yesterday where he was engaging in the same juvenile behavior. I predict next week the MFM will finally get around to covering 'Benghazi'. And by cover it, I mean, they'll play clips of Fox News and talk radio hosts flipping their shit over this kid's dismissive arrogance because they're like totes old and don't get how the utes these days speak and stuff doodz.

Posted by: mugiwara at May 02, 2014 05:07 AM (W7ffl)

360 Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2014 07:10 AM (TRyfo) ====================== Did Veitor even go to college? I can't find a bio of him anywhere. After watching that startling nervier with Baier I wondered and looked, but got nothing.

Posted by: MTF at May 02, 2014 05:07 AM (F58x4)

361 There's a new show on MSNBC.

Hosted by MWR. Guess who won't be around here anymore?!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 05:08 AM (IVgIK)

362 Also at American Thinker, same article on Vietor Who is Ben Rhodes and what qualifies him to be the Deputy National Security Adviser? Rhodes had just earned a master's degree in fiction writing from New York University when he was offered a job as a writer for Hamilton in 2002. A Manhattan native, Rhodes went on to write the Iraq Study Group Report and help draft policy recommendations for the 9/11 Commission, which Hamilton co-chaired. Obama's Fundamental Transformation continues. Where government policy was once formulated by scholars and historians, now it is written by fiction writers.

Posted by: Maximillius Fail at May 02, 2014 05:08 AM (h7FkS)

363 Posted by: mindful webworker — not a lost soul, just a faulty GPS at May 02, 2014 09:04 AM (6B4ha)

---------------



I can do a three-for-one.  Consider yourself all prayed up.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK3FRZkuwv0

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 05:08 AM (oMKp3)

364 >>Perished in the recent Sherpa avalanche on Mt. Everest. Why, why did someone put a trampoline there???

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 02, 2014 05:08 AM (SUKHu)

365 The number of people who dropped out of the labor force soared by 988k people. Ummm... nearly 1 million people dropped out of the workforce last month? Holy shit.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 05:08 AM (PYAXX)

366

You want a police force that serves and protects.

 

You'll settle for cops that walk around drinking coffee and eating doughnuts.

 

You'll get the hospital bill for the forcible sodomy after the enforcers steal your stuff.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 05:08 AM (v6cwT)

367 269 One of my most goals in life is to NEVER get pulled over by a cop again. So, I drink at home and then don't go out. I don't run red lights. I don't speed (> 5 mph over). Not many Andys. Too many Barneys. And these Barneys have a full clip. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 02, 2014 08:43 AM (V70Uh) Not getting pulled over is not even an option any more. They will still pull you over when you aren't doing anything wrong, and then go to court with a lie knowing they will be believed over you. So camera up. That's the only way to cover yourself. And when you prove that the cop was lying, the judge won't sanction him for perjury. And the next case he has, he will be back to being hte most credible witness.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2014 05:09 AM (UQKe/)

368 327 -

Actually, I would much rather  the  cops be preventing crimes, rather than putting tape around the bodies afterwards. 

Especially the innocent victims  of  drunk drivers. 

There is a theory of law enforcement  that has been shown to be effective at both preventing crime  in the moment, and reducing crime overall.  It's called "hot spot"  policing, and really, lots of agencies don't like it.  It's harder  to do. 

It involves this very type of thing, where you know criminal activity is concentrated, you put cops there, have them (within the bounds of the law)  deal with loitering in cars, on street  corners, etc. 

It works.  Communities become safer, and believe it or not, studies show when you bust up a hot spot, the activity doesn't just  go elsewhere, it  is actually reduced, to  the point where criminals stop doing criminal behavior! 

But yeah, if you are a contractor, or you sell a vehicle for cash (as was suggested upthread), and the cops confiscate your cash as part of their "investigation,"  that's  wrong and unjust.   Again though, not the world's biggest problem, in my opinion. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 05:09 AM (BeSEI)

369 OK so Florida, beachfront condo, Atlantic Coast. What's a nice area and affordable- anything?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2014 05:09 AM (GGCsk)

370

>> Tricare getting major cuts for retired military and dependents. Government promises are not worth a shit. Remember that.

.

.

.That is going to whack me big time.  My heart pills are not Standard formulary in either TRICARE mail order or the VA Pharmacies.  And I live 1 1/2 hours away from Ft. Knox.  Sucks to be retired sometimes. 

Posted by: Registered Voter at May 02, 2014 05:09 AM (nUbHY)

371 Posted by: @JohnTant at May 02, 2014 09:05 AM (PFy0L) http://tinyurl.com/qeyrgc2 'Collective Man?' yeah, another power I do. not. want.

Posted by: RWC at May 02, 2014 05:10 AM (fWAjv)

372 happy friday all

Posted by: chemjeff at May 02, 2014 05:10 AM (9GG/0)

373 >>Ummm... nearly 1 million people dropped out of the workforce last month? Sounds like an excellent time for amnesty!! /sarc

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2014 05:11 AM (8zTpe)

374 More efficient "Dude that was 2 years ago" video from RCP: http://tinyurl.com/kk6glkr

Posted by: AmishDude at May 02, 2014 05:11 AM (1UzRc)

375 Not getting pulled over is not even an option any more.

----------------------



I've only been pulled over twice in my entire life.  Both times were my own fault.  Not  ticket offenses, but definitely my fault.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 05:11 AM (oMKp3)

376 But yeah, if you are a contractor, or you sell a vehicle for cash (as was suggested upthread), and the cops confiscate your cash as part of their "investigation," that's wrong and unjust. Again though, not the world's biggest problem, in my opinion. May not be one of the world's biggest, but it is one of the more easily solvable problems.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 05:12 AM (ltXvY)

377 Walk around and drink coffee?
Or at least that's what I did and got paid to do it and in Italy and Hawaii!!!!
Thanks taxpayers

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 09:05 AM (/fhBu)

 

 

 

 

Did  you  do  it  without  a  bib?  Cause  that  would  put  you  in  the  upper  1%  of  Bears  fans. 

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at May 02, 2014 05:12 AM (rXcBX)

378 368 OK so Florida, beachfront condo, Atlantic Coast. What's a nice area and affordable- anything? Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2014 09:09 AM (GGCsk) What is your definition of affordable?

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2014 05:12 AM (UQKe/)

379 "That is going to whack me big time. My heart pills are not Standard formulary in either TRICARE mail order or the VA Pharmacies. And I live 1 1/2 hours away from Ft. Knox. Sucks to be retired sometimes." It's a shame we can't use the same guidelines that Courts use while ruling on Voter ID. "Undue burden on patients,"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 02, 2014 05:12 AM (tDrpG)

380 LOL! My son's elementary school was like that. Young teachers and their teaching assistants. I think Russ Myers is in charge of hiring in my school district. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 05:12 AM (HaoMv)

381 371 happy friday all

Posted by: chemjeff at May 02, 2014 09:10 AM (9GG/0)

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Good morning chemjeff!  Is your semester about over?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 05:13 AM (oMKp3)

382 367. Saturation patrols And it works But a lot of people don't think it's fair

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 05:13 AM (/fhBu)

383

367: "Again though, not the world's biggest problem, in my opinion."

 

Until it's your money or property that is stolen and you can't make the mortgage payment. 

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 05:13 AM (LJpVo)

384 @368 - Daytona, 80k. http://orlando.craigslist.org/reo/4425945464.html

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2014 05:13 AM (UQKe/)

385
Heh. I wasn't one of them. Got a sweet deal renting a duplex near Scobie pond. Beat the hell out of living in Nashua. I miss NH a lot.

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 02, 2014 09:04 AM (qRDBx)



Just about anything beats living in Nashua (except living in Manchester).



I grew up in Weare.   I miss it, but it just got too expensive to stay there.   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 05:14 AM (4df7R)

386 >>>Again though, not the world's biggest problem, in my opinion.

I would hazard a guess that your opinion might change if it were your money.

What makes it a bigger problem than the number of people robbed by their police department is that when people become aware of this stuff they become fearful of there police and their government.

Citizens should not need to be fearful of their government.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 05:14 AM (IVgIK)

387 .That is going to whack me big time. My heart pills are not Standard formulary in either TRICARE mail order or the VA Pharmacies. And I live 1 1/2 hours away from Ft. Knox. Sucks to be retired sometimes. Posted by: Registered Voter at May 02, 2014 09:09 AM (nUbHY) They are offering exceptions to the new rules on a case by case basis. Apply for one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2014 05:15 AM (t3UFN)

388 Man, I really dislike that Vietor guy. He's the bog-standard liberal elitist - smug, young, ignorant, rude, and nasty. And he hates Fox News. Oh, and lily-white too.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 02, 2014 05:15 AM (F85AX)

389 376. Green cammies If I did still it then it would just blend in... So I can say no because no proof

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at May 02, 2014 05:15 AM (/fhBu)

390 Actually, I would much rather the cops be preventing crimes, rather than putting tape around the bodies afterwards. Then we'll have to agree to disagree. Stipulating that no one likes dead innocents, I'm much more afraid of a police state that can always keep me safe than I am of a drunk driver. And, yes, I know about hot-spot policing. And the key to it is punishing actual crimes. Loitering *is* a crime (in many places). And it's often "broken up" by a simple "move along." It does not involve "stop and frisk" or arresting people for simply being in the area. There's a reason that sting operations have to go right up until the subject has actually attempted to commit a crime. If at any time the subject says, "You know what? No, this is a bad idea" and walks away, the cops can't arrest them. Because "pre-crime" is a horrible infringement on Liberty.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 05:16 AM (PYAXX)

391 And, yes, I did sneak three prayer requests into one there. Think Heaven will object on technical grounds? Back to reading.... Posted by: mindful webworker — not a lost soul, just a faulty GPS at May 02, 2014 09:04 AM (6B4ha) Prayers sent.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at May 02, 2014 05:16 AM (mf5HN)

392 Citizens should not need to be fearful of their government.
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Correct.  It should be the reverse.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 05:16 AM (oMKp3)

393 But yeah, if you are a contractor, or you sell a vehicle for cash (as was suggested upthread), and the cops confiscate your cash as part of their "investigation," that's wrong and unjust. Again though, not the world's biggest problem, in my opinion.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 09:09 AM (BeSEI)



The size and scope of the problem is    irrelevant, IMO.  The problem exists, and it is blatantly unconstitutional.   Even if it only happened once   that's one time too many.   This is the kind of behavior you have to stomp out hard and fast before it goes from    being  "not the world's biggest problem" to "a pretty huge fucking problem."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 05:17 AM (4df7R)

394 So let's posit that the police stealing your money is a less serious problem than them bashing in your front door and shooting you in the face. Okay, I get that. But it all comes from the same place. Lawlessness. They are impervious to the law and to consequences of their actions. Once you give someone blanket immunity, hard to believe, but their behavior does not improve. See Jameis Winston. Or the Obama Administration.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2014 05:17 AM (UQKe/)

395 Economy adds 288,000 jobs in April, unemployment rate falls to 6.3 percent ----- Wait for the downward revision.

Posted by: RWC at May 02, 2014 05:17 AM (fWAjv)

396 Ummm... nearly 1 million people dropped out of the workforce last month? Holy shit. I remember during Reagan's term when 1 million joined the workforce in one month. But I'm some sort of racist for remembering, or something. The countries going to hell and the MSM is worrying about the illegally recorded ramblings of some geriatric dude with chemo brain.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 05:17 AM (HaoMv)

397 "Just about anything beats living in Nashua (except living in Manchester).
I grew up in Weare. I miss it, but it just got too expensive to stay there.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at May 02, 2014 09:14 AM"

I dunno...I have friends in good neighborhoods in both cities.  Hell, either beats living in MA.  Still trying to migrate north.  If the USNH gets off its butt and starts interviewing candidates (it's been 6 months, people) I might even have a chance.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2014 05:18 AM (knoK7)

398 October 2014 - Unemployment rate falls to 2.6 percent.

Posted by: RWC at May 02, 2014 05:18 AM (fWAjv)

399 I get  404 when I try and Tweet. Karma, I guess.

Posted by: Jen Psocki at May 02, 2014 05:19 AM (Dwehj)

400 Let's just pray that they do not bring the same voting and attitudes that made their State high tax to begin with. ----------------------- Vic - You know better. They will, in fact already have.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 02, 2014 05:19 AM (aDwsi)

401 382 -

You might  be right.  I  might think it was a big  problem if cops stole my money, and it became impossible for me to make my mortgage payment.

But they're not going to  get that money from taking it out  of my wallet, or a wad of it out of my glovebox.  I can't remember the last time I  had  more than maybe  $60  cash on me. 

I  don't  need more  than that.  Most  people don't.

You know who  does though?  Drug dealers. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 05:19 AM (BeSEI)

402 He's the bog-standard liberal elitist - smug, young, ignorant, rude, and nasty. And he hates Fox News.

--

Nailed it.  He's in serious need of a face punch.  Chris Plante is railing on about his "dude" comment now. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 02, 2014 05:19 AM (tsGZY)

403 I dunno...I have friends in good neighborhoods in both cities. Hell, either beats living in MA. Still trying to migrate north. If the USNH gets off its butt and starts interviewing candidates (it's been 6 months, people) I might even have a chance.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2014 09:18 AM (knoK7)



Ah, the joys of the University system.   They are SO FUCKING SLOW, seriously.   They're almost as bad as the State itself.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 05:19 AM (4df7R)

404 I used to work nights, drove from New Boston (almost in Francestown) to Amherst. Got pulled over a lot until they started to recognize the car. Posted by: Anthony L. at May 02, 2014 08:57 AM (qRDBx) I lived on Tucker Mill Rd for 15 years hahaha. Worked in Milford

Posted by: NativeNH at May 02, 2014 05:20 AM (lc3/d)

405 >>>I don't need more than that. Most people don't.

You know who does though? Drug dealers.

Wow. So because criminals use cash citizens should be harassed.

Good to know.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 02, 2014 05:21 AM (IVgIK)

406 October 2014 - Unemployment rate falls to 2.6 percent. Posted by: RWC --------------------------------- I credit higher minimum wages, and Obamacare.

Posted by: Paul Krugman, Nobel Prize Winning Economist at May 02, 2014 05:21 AM (aDwsi)

407 Economy adds 288,000 jobs in April, unemployment rate falls to 6.3 percent

Lawn mower and weed whacker sales triple!

Posted by: USA Yesterday at May 02, 2014 05:21 AM (Dwehj)

408 You know who does though? Drug dealers People dealing in private car sales, or contractors, or people who only deal in cash, or... Fixed, for sanity. Let's take your theory here, and turn it a little bit. "But they're not going to get my gun from my person, or from my glove box. I can't remember the last time I carried a handgun. I don't need one. Most people don't. You know who does, though? A drug dealer." Not so convincing now, is it?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 05:21 AM (PYAXX)

409 Am I the only one who thinks Tommy Vietor looks like his   face was transplanted    from     a much smaller man    onto an     oversized head?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 05:22 AM (4df7R)

410 I can't remember the last time I had more than maybe $60 cash on me.

I don't need more than that. Most people don't.

You know who does though? Drug dealers.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 09:19 AM (BeSEI)


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I carry larger amounts than that.   I like to always be prepared in case I have to bug out or the grid goes down or something.  Never bought drugs in my life.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 05:23 AM (oMKp3)

411 "Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at May 02, 2014 09:19 AM'

I had to laugh the last time I checked in on the process.  Sounded like the secretary was getting ready to cut a bitch if he didn't get her some names of people to invite for interviews.  Never a good idea to have your secretary pissed at you.  At least they're still working on it, and it's not a case of "oh..yeah...position was filled 6 months ago....sorry we forgot to tell anyone."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2014 05:23 AM (knoK7)

412 Those burgers aren't just going to flip themselves, you know.

Posted by: USA Yesterday at May 02, 2014 05:23 AM (Dwehj)

413

In other cop hating news,  two Alaskan State troopers shot dead. 

Posted by: polynikes at May 02, 2014 05:24 AM (m2CN7)

414 Economy adds 288,000 jobs in April, unemployment rate falls to 6.3 percent ---------------------------- To the extent that may be true, it is because other workers have been cut to 30 hrs. or less.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 02, 2014 05:24 AM (aDwsi)

415 You know who does though? Drug dealers.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 09:19 AM (BeSEI)

I carry large amounts of cash when I travel. And sometimes I will pay people in cash.

But really, I don't have to justify my legal behavior, and neither to drug dealers.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 02, 2014 05:24 AM (QFxY5)

416 I don't need more than that. Most people don't. You know who does though? Drug dealers. Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 09:19 AM (BeSEI) Ever watch Fast and Loud? Those guys walk around with tens of thousands of dollars. What was that gun show out in Colorado, that guy would always do deals for tens of thousands of dollars in cash. And all those storage locker shows. Those people have to carry lots of cash.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2014 05:24 AM (UQKe/)

417 Pulls guns and spins them while smiling a wicked smile. I will talk to to you Later kids.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 02, 2014 05:25 AM (NZd3s)

418 Am I the only one who thinks Tommy Vietor looks like his face was transplanted from a much smaller man onto an oversized head?

Why do you ask?

Posted by: John Tesh at May 02, 2014 05:25 AM (Dwehj)

419 My brother in law does everything in cash.   I don't know how much he carries on him at any one time, but it's more than $100.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at May 02, 2014 05:25 AM (4df7R)

420 Dump up.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 02, 2014 05:25 AM (knoK7)

421 @383 Thanks.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2014 05:26 AM (GGCsk)

422
Hmmm ...Coconut milk makes a surprisingly nice coffee creamer.


In case anyone was wondering about that.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 05:26 AM (oMKp3)

423 Wife's school year is winding down. I think yesterday was the last day she had to teach a class, now it's just exams, grading, graduation. I better get the pool opened/cleaned or I'll be getting the stink-eye once she's home all day.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 02, 2014 05:26 AM (ZshNr)

424

How dare cops profile!

 

Why the hell  doesn't the TSA profile!

Posted by: polynikes at May 02, 2014 05:26 AM (m2CN7)

425 Am I the only one who thinks Tommy Vietor looks like his face was transplanted from a much smaller man onto an oversized head? Posted by: MWR ---------------------------- When I first saw him, I thought he was a high schooler. Turns out that he is older than that, but simply hasn't matured intellectually.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 02, 2014 05:27 AM (aDwsi)

426

A couple of points on the Cop issue:

 

-Cops preventing crime...the problem there is that it's just not possible to do in any significant way without being too resource intensive AND trampling on the rights of people.  Cops can't be everywhere, and measures to increase police effectiveness (like cameras and such) lead to a place I'd really rather not go.  OTOH I think more empowerment for law abiding people (relaxation or elimination of concealed carry regulations, for one) goes a lot further in preventing crime as well as preserves people's rights.

 

-On the cash issue, it doesn't even have to be your money.  I'm the treasurer for a  kid-centered non profit  and we do a lot of stuff in cash.  There are times I'm taking  a few grand in  small bills to the bank.  If the cops stop me and figure that money is evidence of ill-will, well, the money being confiscated impacts more than just me...it will mean a bunch of kids don't get to go to a group baseball game, or a campout, or something similar.

Posted by: @JohnTant at May 02, 2014 05:27 AM (PFy0L)

427 I would think there are all sorts of cash transactions after the NSA monitoring revelations. Maybe people don't like that their bank records (credit card detail) can be queried and analyzed against other data.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2014 05:27 AM (8zTpe)

428 But they're not going to get that money from taking it out of my wallet, or a wad of it out of my glovebox. I can't remember the last time I had more than maybe $60 cash on me. $3906.00. One night at 3:00 am after leaving WinStar casino after locking up a dollar slot machine. Sweated bullets on the hour drive. Anything under 10k is paid in cash.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2014 05:27 AM (ltXvY)

429 You know who does though? Drug dealers.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 09:19 AM (BeSEI)

Sorry, I'm not a drug dealer. Last time I checked, currency isn't illegal in any quantity. How much I choose to carry is my business.

Posted by: Anthony L. at May 02, 2014 05:28 AM (qRDBx)

430 407 -

You're right.  If I'm driving down  the road, minding my own business, and a cop pulls me over, asks if  I  have a weapon, and I point to the locked box on the floor in the back, with NO ammo  in it, and he confiscates it, and I can't get it back.  That's  bad!  That's wrong! 

But if I'm sitting in my car at midnight, with drug deals going on all around me, and  they search my car on the suspicion that I'm up to no good, and  the cops   finds  a loaded weapon  in my glovebox? 

You know  who is wrong now?

We  can play this game all day. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 05:28 AM (BeSEI)

431 Those people have to carry lots of cash. Posted by: blaster ------------------- Ya got to carry weapons, 'cause you always carry cash...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 02, 2014 05:28 AM (aDwsi)

432

400: "I don't need more than that. Most people don't.

You know who does though? Drug dealers."

 

You know who needs houses? Drug dealers. And so people's homes are being siezed.

 

You know who needs hotels? Drug dealers. And so  a hotel was siezed. Because drug dealers used it. It didn't matter that it would be illegal for the owners to refuse service.

 

You know who needs a car/truck? Drug dealers. So these too are being siezed.

 

All of this without any wrong doing being proven. And in some cases, the owner isn't even accused of any wrong doing.

 

But because a criminal has in their possession a fully lawful item or piece of property, by all means. EVERYONE must now be at risk of having their lawful property being stolen.

 

By the police. Interesting justification you have there.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 05:28 AM (Kh+vp)

433 315
Not sure for what occassion, but I would like to see Ace work this video into a post.
http://tinyurl.com/jwknr54

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 02, 2014 08:59 AM (eEBON)


I guess I was just too young to notice it when the show was on but Chuck Barris looks like he is drugged out of his gourd in that clip.

Posted by: joncelli at May 02, 2014 05:30 AM (RD7QR)

434 I used to take a couple thousand pounds of scrap to the scrap dealer. It's a cash-only business. You get weighed, you get paid. Walk out with a couple hundred $20.00 bills. Just like a drug dealer. There's a lot of people who need to deal in cash.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at May 02, 2014 05:32 AM (HaoMv)

435 Ya got to carry weapons, 'cause you always carry cash...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 02, 2014 09:28 AM (aDwsi)



Smuggler's Blues....

Posted by: EC at May 02, 2014 05:32 AM (GQ8sn)

436 If cops in your town/county are pulling people over without probable cause, either fix it or flee.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 02, 2014 05:33 AM (V70Uh)

437 431 -

Right.

All those wicked  cops, seizing  all those houses  and  hotels  from  innocent citizens, minding their own business.

It's a veritable epidemic, it is! 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 05:35 AM (BeSEI)

438 My wife and I started carrying large amount of cash when we first started going to Buenos Aires. We were having extensive dental work done and that's how they do business there. Now, we still take lots of cash because the economy is so screwed up there that U.S. cash trades at double what the official exchange rate is. We are only allowed $10K each but normally take $25K each. I guess we're lucky we haven't been stopped on the way to the airport.

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2014 05:35 AM (u2a4R)

439 From the link "Why Liberals Don't Care About Consequences"


"TodayÂ’s American liberalism, it is often remarked, amounts to a secular religion: it has its own sacred texts and taboos, Crusades and Inquisitions. The political correctness that undergirds it, meanwhile, can be traced back to the past centuryÂ’s liberal Protestantism.

    Joseph Bottum ....examines post-Protestant secular religion with empathy, and contends that it gained force and staying power by recasting the old Mainline Protestantism in the form of catechistic worldly categories: anti-racism, anti-gender discrimination, anti-inequality, and so forth.

 What sustains the heirs of the now-defunct Protestant consensus, he concludes, is a sense of the sacred, but one that seeks the security of personal salvation through assuming the right stance on social and political issues."

------------------


Shorter:  It's a cult.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 05:37 AM (oMKp3)

440 oops wrong thread

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2014 05:39 AM (oMKp3)

441

436: "It's a veritable epidemic, it is!"

 

Of course. It doesn't matter. Until it happens to you.

 

But until and unless it happens to you, then fuck 'em! Right?

 

Since when does the number of times an evil happens make any difference in whether or not it is an evil?

 

But if you were to actually read and look around, you may see that these things are not as rare as you might currently think.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 05:40 AM (Kh+vp)

442

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2014 09:35 AM (u2a4R)

 

You having  50,000 worth of dental work done?  You   know  you can buy gold grills  in the US  right?

Posted by: polynikes at May 02, 2014 05:40 AM (m2CN7)

443 What sustains the heirs of the now-defunct Protestant consensus, he concludes, is a sense of the sacred, but one that seeks the security of personal salvation through assuming the right stance on social and political issues." That's just the piety; it requires that the government then becomes God.

Posted by: --- at May 02, 2014 05:40 AM (MMC8r)

444 "You having 50,000 worth of dental work done? You know you can buy gold grills in the US right?" Between the wife and I, it's been $135,000 so far. Just about done.

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2014 05:42 AM (u2a4R)

445 So the only alternative seems to be that I must soil myself[...] Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 07:14 AM (f6ZLT) I've heard that's the only sure-fire way to score big on the LSAT.

Posted by: jwpaine at May 02, 2014 05:42 AM (68O4K)

446

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at May 02, 2014 09:40 AM (Kh+vp)

 

Yep,  cops suck until you  actually need them .  

Posted by: polynikes at May 02, 2014 05:42 AM (m2CN7)

447 I will keep you and your family in prayer.,Mindful Webworker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2014 05:50 AM (XyM/Y)

448 The Republican-controlled Florida Senate voted Thursday in favor of letting students who live in the country illegally qualify for in-state college tuition rates.

I cannot understand why they would pass this, unless "Makes us look good to MSNBC" is their overriding concern.

Posted by: Null at May 02, 2014 05:50 AM (P7hip)

449 I know I'm late to the party but Tricare for Life is for retirees 65 and older. Younger retirees can get any of the tricare options.

Posted by: Retiree at May 02, 2014 05:55 AM (+C8Jp)

450 grammie, atc, any I missed, thank you! Means a lot. __ 20 years and 1 month ago, late at night, we pulled into town ahead of the moving van. Went to our new business location. Place had been abandoned for many months. Before my key hit the lock, local cops pulled up. I introduced myself as the new owner, and praised their alertness, noting it to our trio of youngsters. Good way to start our new life, I thought. Even in Chicago, I had told the kids, turn to a cop if there's trouble. Later, a bully cop was in our place, and slapped cuffs on my 10yo son as a 'joke.' Cop was armed, I was not, and I tried to be all haha polite, but it was the one time I ever wanted to punch a cop. Jerk got in trouble later. Wasn't even a modern steroid thug type cop, just an old-fashioned swaggering bully. But at least it happened when my kids were about the right age to start moderating the idea that Mr Policeman is Your Friend. (Our business for a while served a lot of young folk, and we had a lot of cooperation from very good cops.) That was before Officer "what's that smell?" Green frisked me & searched my car. (Long-winded story linked in nic.) My last significant cop encounter (just a turn signal burned out, no ticket) was with a steroidal, hyper-grim, grilling-me highway patrolman. No problems, really, I marveled about all the cop computer stuff filling the front seat, but his manner made my skin crawl; he was not the Smokey of my youth; different breed, and not better.

Posted by: mindful webworker — good cops are good / bad cops are bad at May 02, 2014 06:21 AM (cdYeu)

451 But if I'm sitting in my car at midnight, with drug deals going on all around me, and they search my car on the suspicion that I'm up to no good, and the cops finds a loaded weapon in my glovebox? Since when is sitting in a car (at any time) reasonable suspicion for any kind of search? Let alone probable cause? Sorry, no. Perhaps I'm sitting in my car at midnight, with drug deals going on all around me, because I'm picking up my [insert ne'er-do-well relative here] who has finally had a "come to Jesus" moment and I'd like to protect myself from the drug dealers. The point is, simply, that the fact other people do things that are wrong should not deprive me of my Liberty. I don't want to live in that world. I want to live in the world where I'm empowered to protect myself and my family, and cops exist to fulfill the the roll they can actually fulfill- investigating crime and capturing criminals-in-fact, not arresting people for being possible-criminals-in-waiting.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 02, 2014 06:28 AM (PYAXX)

452 450 -

Sorry to return to a nearly dead thread  to respond.  But I hear you.  I think it's a good thing  that you want to look at it from a perspective different from mine.  I would hope that helps keep things from  swinging too far in one direction or the other.

There is a reason however, that crime rates are down.  It's not because  everybody loves Obama.  It's because,  at least in part,  of police measures  like the ones I'm talking about. 

For every 100  people sitting in their car at midnight, with  a  loaded weapon in  the glovebox, where drugs deals are happening all around them, 99  of those people are there to support the drug  trade in  that neighborhood, on one side of it or the other.

If  I was that one guy, and I had a "valid"  reason for being there, if I was smart I would be aware of the fact  that cops are going to think I'm up to no good, and I would make sure if I encounter one, I conduct  my interaction with said cop  very very carefully. 

Posted by: BurtTC at May 02, 2014 06:37 AM (BeSEI)

453 Are we still talking about taxes? $5800 per year for a $260k house on a quarter acre city lot in Corpus Christi. Our assessments show how much goes to the local hospitals to offset the written-off care, no doubt; the junior college on the ghetto side of town, in which my children will never set foot; and CCISD, which my children do not attend. Taking a long hard look at rural southeastern Oklahoma or, even better, rural Tennessee with low property tax rates and no state income tax.

Posted by: Republic of Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo at May 02, 2014 07:07 AM (Gk2GE)

454 I got no problem with people weighing Christie, I just wish all the trucks weren't backed up on the Interstate waiting their turn.

"It's 3 A.M.  The phone rings.  Can you roll over and answer it without hurting yourself?'

Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 02, 2014 09:47 AM (XO6WW)

455 Good Lord.  Gabriel likes some seriously gay music.  Still, I love him like a brother.

Posted by: Kevin at May 03, 2014 03:43 PM (Mik+4)

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