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March 21, 2014

Two US Cities, One With the Highest Unemployment in the Country, The Other With the Lowest. One is the Capital of Shale Fracking; The Other is the Capital of Solar Power Production.
— Ace

Guess which is which?

According to data released on Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), Midland, Texas, has a 2.9 percent unemployment rate, the lowest in the country.
Midland sits above the Permian Basin Shale, a massive formation that constitutes a large chunk of TexasÂ’ booming shale oil industry.
The West Texas town is also one of the fastest growing metro areas in the country, which many attribute to its booming oil-fueled economy.
...
As a result of MidlandÂ’s fracking-induced oil glut, the townÂ’s increasing population is also enjoying a boost in personal incomes. Per capita income in the city increased by 25 percent between 2009 and 2011.
...
In contrast to the successes of those oil and gas boomtowns, Yuma, Ariz., is facing the highest unemployment rate of any U.S. metro area at a whopping 26.1 percent.
Yuma is the site of the Agua Caliente solar plantÂ—the largest photovoltaic solar generation facility in the world.
Agua Caliente received a $967 million loan guarantee from the Department of Energy (DOE) in 2011. According to DOE, federal financing helped create 10 permanent jobs.

Ten jobs for almost a billion dollars.

That's damned good.

Via @slublog.

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1 Yessss!

Posted by: Tutu at March 21, 2014 11:38 AM (CpWI4)

2 First.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 21, 2014 11:38 AM (hLRSq)

Blast!

*shakes fist in impotent rage*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 21, 2014 11:38 AM (hLRSq)

4 Well, second and third.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 21, 2014 11:38 AM (hLRSq)

5 Agua Caliente? So...the project is in... /whips out and puts on sunglasses ...hot water?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 21, 2014 11:39 AM (naUcP)

6 yeah but fracking causes earthquakes out here in California, dontchaknow.

Posted by: california red at March 21, 2014 11:39 AM (7jrCM)

7 Who are the shareholders and how much money did they bundle for Obama's campaigns?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 21, 2014 11:39 AM (hLRSq)

8 Yuma has a metro area? I didn't know.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 11:39 AM (JNU6r)

9 man none of this makes any sense does it?

Posted by: DanMan at March 21, 2014 11:39 AM (RusNE)

10 Dook.

Posted by: NCKate at March 21, 2014 11:39 AM (y7PFk)

11 10 jobs? thats some hot water indeed!

Posted by: FCF at March 21, 2014 11:39 AM (Khja4)

12 Ah, Government: Doing the least with the most since 1913.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 21, 2014 11:39 AM (twp4I)

Posted by: california red at March 21, 2014 03:39 PM (7jrCM)

Well, I have made the ground move a couple of times...oh wait, the other sort of fracking.

Sorry, my misreading....

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 21, 2014 11:40 AM (hLRSq)

14 In contrast to the successes of those oil and gas boomtowns, Yuma, Ariz., is facing the highest unemployment rate of any U.S. metro area at a whopping 26.1 percent. ********** Holy shit.

Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 11:40 AM (RJMhd)

15 Yuma is developing all their irrigated farmland into suburbs. Evidently there are a lot of Californians looking for place to hide out. I can't imagine why Californians want to leave California.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at March 21, 2014 11:41 AM (oDCMR)

16 It takes a LOT of people to bring those sunshine rays down to ground level! Maybe if we fracked the air, it would let more solar power through. And then there'd be jobs for everyone in Yuma!

Posted by: zombie at March 21, 2014 11:41 AM (mizYg)

17 If you haters would just buy our solar products, we wouldn't be in this mess!

Posted by: SolarTown USA at March 21, 2014 11:41 AM (JVEmw)

18 A billion dollars? I'll tell you what I'd do man, ten chicks at the same time man.

Posted by: Lawrence at March 21, 2014 11:41 AM (Oa0CG)

19 I'd just build more nuclear reactors.

Posted by: SH at March 21, 2014 11:41 AM (gmeXX)

20 How did a nation of free men ever succumb to the current income tax system?

Posted by: Buddha at March 21, 2014 11:41 AM (s/sIv)

21 Why do these stories never mention how the money was spent and who received that billion dollars that was spent to create 10 jobs.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 21, 2014 11:41 AM (PD6iL)

22 you're tripping my trigger again with this kinda stuff!

Posted by: concrete girl at March 21, 2014 11:41 AM (56yWA)

23 "Agua Caliente?" Seriously? They literally named their facility "Hot Water?"

They clearly knew ahead of time where they'd end up.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 11:42 AM (4df7R)

24 There are wops in Yuma?

Posted by: LIV at March 21, 2014 11:42 AM (RJMhd)

25 As a result of MidlandÂ’s fracking-induced oil glut, the townÂ’s increasing population is also enjoying a boost in personal incomes. Per capita income in the city increased by 25 percent between 2009 and 2011.

How can this be in a city that has hardly any lobbyists or federal employees?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 21, 2014 11:42 AM (8ZskC)

26 I lived 2.5 years in Yuma. What a hellhole. The only thing it has in its favor is that it's only three hours driving time to San Diego. They made it the site of the old territorial prison for a reason. It was like Alcatraz. Even if you escaped there was nowhere to go that wouldn't kill you. And 26% unemployment too. What a fine town.

Posted by: DFG at March 21, 2014 11:43 AM (w5sI2)

27 According to DOE, federal financing helped create 10 permanent jobs.

Incorrect. Federal financing helped create ten jobs that will remain permanent only if Agua Caliente can pay their salaries absent federal financing. That seems... unlikely.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 11:43 AM (4df7R)

28 "Agua Caliente?" Seriously? They literally named their facility "Hot Water?"

They clearly knew ahead of time where they'd end up.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea

Common misconception. In German it actually mean 'a whale's vagina.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 21, 2014 11:44 AM (twp4I)

29 1. Yuma puts more of its citizens on unemployment.
2. ???
3. Boomtown!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi, Genius at March 21, 2014 11:44 AM (8ZskC)

30 Frack if I know.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 21, 2014 11:44 AM (IXrOn)

31 yeah but fracking causes earthquakes out here in California, dontchaknow.

Posted by: california red at March 21, 2014 03:39 PM (7jrCM)

You may have something there. Call in to my show "Ground Zero" and let's discuss this.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2014 11:45 AM (BAS5M)

32 Ten jobs for almost a billion dollars. But they're good jobs!

Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 11:45 AM (zqvg6)

33 Ten jobs for almost a billion dollars. But they meant well, by which I mean they didn't mean well at all.

Posted by: eleven at March 21, 2014 11:45 AM (Hy7dS)

34 I think the Koch Brothers drank Yumas milkshake.

http://tinyurl.com/a7erg6r

Posted by: Guido 'trigger happy' at March 21, 2014 11:46 AM (15qFH)

35 Dammit, why are the jobs always in hot places? What's a fat guy to do?

Posted by: joncelli at March 21, 2014 11:46 AM (RD7QR)

36 If we would but another billion into that joint we could have 20 jobs! But NOOOO you wingers will do anything to make Obama looks bad!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2014 11:46 AM (/rlXg)

37 Ten jobs for almost a billion dollars.

That's real sustainable.

Posted by: real joe at March 21, 2014 11:46 AM (Lg1tN)

38 I shot a man in Yuma, just to put him out of his misery.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 11:46 AM (JNU6r)

39 Midland is only popular because I camped there to whine about bush.

Posted by: Cindy Shaheen at March 21, 2014 11:46 AM (rdiUQ)

40 Well, it's my show actually.

Posted by: Clyde Lewis at March 21, 2014 11:47 AM (BAS5M)

41 Just try and get a hotel room in Midland-Odessa. Wow.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 11:47 AM (eoeps)

42 So they were able to create 10 permanent jobs. I'll bet you dollars to donuts that most of those jobs are related to actually administering those funds and any other federal or grant funds they receive, and have absolutely nothing to do with actually generating a nickel's worth of solar power.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 11:47 AM (4df7R)

43 I've been to Midland and to Yuma If you like the middle of nowhere, both towns fit Midland does have Friday Night Football and is as conservative as it gets. Flat, featureless, and hot Yuma empties out in the summer and anyone with any money has a summer place in La Jolla or Coronado. Otherwise it's indistinguishable from Mexicali. There is mountainous scenery however

Posted by: kbdabear at March 21, 2014 11:47 AM (aTXUx)

44 It was originally going to be Aqua Calliope with a blue merry go round logo, but they went to Pepe's Signs and the rest is history

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at March 21, 2014 11:47 AM (3ZtZW)

45 What's Spanish for "Deep Shit"?

Posted by: Waterhouse filling out a DoE loan application at March 21, 2014 11:47 AM (fOLwM)

46 OT, but I was on break just now and heard Dick Morris talking about the Kathleen Kane case. I think he was interviewing a reporter. I don't know whether he is syndicated or is local to Philly radio.

Posted by: rickl at March 21, 2014 11:48 AM (zoehZ)

47
Barry: "Green energy" is the future. There's nothing a few billion of tax dollars into Yuma won't fix.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 21, 2014 11:48 AM (1Jaio)

48 Remember when the unemployment rate under GW was real low so the cry of the lefty was "they are Mcjobs" or "not good jobs".

Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 11:48 AM (zqvg6)

49 First the government manufactures billions of dollars out of thin air with "Quantitative Easing" (i.e. printing up money with no backing in order to cause inflation). Next, the government makes billions of dollars evaporate into thin air leaving no trace of its existence, by "financing" projects that go nowhere. So, the government's main function is to produce and then destroy imaginary money. Sort of like quantum mechanics with potential particles emerging in pairs and then recombining and poof! they're gone. There's really only one question left to answer: Are the people running the American economy the most incompetent morons in the history of mankind -- or are they intentionally trying to cripple America (as a way of "winning the Cold War" for the left after we thought it was already all over)? All other questions are subservient to that one.

Posted by: zombie at March 21, 2014 11:48 AM (mizYg)

50 Garrett
March is almost over and the Croton reservoir is still frozen, has been since the end of January. Global warmening, you know.

Posted by: real joe at March 21, 2014 11:48 AM (Lg1tN)

51 Just think. Solar isn't even profitable in Arizona. Arizona.

Posted by: eleven at March 21, 2014 11:49 AM (Hy7dS)

52 That 10 jobs for 1 billion is worth it to lefties. Because environment or something.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 21, 2014 11:49 AM (GrtrJ)

53 48 Remember when the unemployment rate under GW was real low so the cry of the lefty was "they are Mcjobs" or "not good jobs".

Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 03:48 PM (zqvg6)

yeah now Yuma got the McBlowjobs.

Posted by: Guido 'trigger happy' at March 21, 2014 11:49 AM (15qFH)

54 10 jobs, fried birds, blinded pilots......wonderful.

Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 11:49 AM (G+Wff)

55 That's some damn fine shit we smoke in the Senate, let me tell you peons. It takes artistic effort to come up with crap sandwiches like this and make you like it! Our weed supply helps us.

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 21, 2014 11:49 AM (F58x4)

56 What's Spanish for "Deep Shit"? Muy caca?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 11:49 AM (CRyse)

57 Were these created jobs or saved jobs? There's a difference.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at March 21, 2014 11:49 AM (oDCMR)

58 I don't know if I'd take a job in Yuma for a hundred measly million. Maybe if I telecommuted...

Posted by: tubal at March 21, 2014 11:50 AM (ETCgz)

59 "Ten jobs for almost a billion dollars. That's damned good." That's ten jobs created or saved, thank you.

Posted by: Prezzy FoShizzle at March 21, 2014 11:50 AM (gOoFi)

60 The US needs Texas much more than Texas needs the US.

Posted by: Lauren at March 21, 2014 11:50 AM (hFL/3)

61 This appears to contain math and is therefore inadmissable under the KOCH BROTHERS!!!! Rule 4.9.8(a) as amended.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2014 11:50 AM (659DL)

I've been to Midland and to Yuma

If you like the middle of nowhere, both towns fit

City slicker.

Posted by: Lubbock at March 21, 2014 11:50 AM (JtwS4)

63 March is almost over and the Croton reservoir is still frozen, has been since the end of January. Global warmening, you know. Holy Crap...that's late. You should be slow trolling sawbellies out there by now!

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 11:50 AM (JNU6r)

64 2.9% I can't even wrap my head around that. Imagine rush hour.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (IXrOn)

65 What's Spanish for "Deep Shit"? Mierda Profunda.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (659DL)

66 What's Spanish for "Deep Shit"?

Posted by: Waterhouse filling out a DoE loan application at March 21, 2014 03:47 PM (fOLwM)

Um... *thinks*

Mierda Espesa?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (4df7R)

67 I guess LÃo Caliente was taken.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (slXFW)

68 Just think of all the residual spending from that billion though!

What if we spent a trillion?? That would mean a million jobs! You wingnuts just hate to see people working, right?

............
That is an actual argument you would find over at Daily Kooks.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (Z7PrM)

69 45 What's Spanish for "Deep Shit"?

According to the Spanglish translation at HealthCare.gov that would be

El Deepo shitto.

Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (rdiUQ)

70 Yuma is the site of the Agua Caliente solar plantÂ—the largest photovoltaic solar generation facility in the world. Agua Caliente = Hot Water Which is what Yuma is in right now

Posted by: kbdabear at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (aTXUx)

71 I hated Yuma.

Posted by: Russell Crowe at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (F58x4)

72 The funny thing is that mineral wealth is there for the taking.Even in fucking NY!

Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (zqvg6)

73 Ten jobs for almost a billion dollars.

That's damned good.

You forgot the king's cut, the lobbyists' cut, the DNC cut, the local dem politician's cut, etc. Once they shave off their finder's fees, it's like $117,850 for salaries.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 11:51 AM (eoeps)

74 Actually had that argument with a client recently.... Simple question shut him up... which would be better.... a few small earthquakes caused by Fracking... Or one MAJOR one, like nature tends to have?

Posted by: Romeo13 getting on his hoverboard and riding off at March 21, 2014 11:52 AM (84gbM)

75 Ya'll are just jealous cause Barry's brackets are currently residing in the 92.4 percentile.

Posted by: Fritz at March 21, 2014 11:52 AM (PnMCP)

76 Wow, just heard one of the most plausible missing jet theories I've heard yet, and it involved an axe fight. On Hannity's radio show of all places.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 11:52 AM (ZshNr)

77 I lived and worked in the Midland/Odessa area. For Halliburton. Save for the hot chicks in Midland, the absolute prolapsed fucking anus of Texas.

Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 11:52 AM (xWW96)

78 My fellow Arizonans, you have nothing to fear from a Barack Obama administration

Posted by: John McCain at March 21, 2014 11:52 AM (aTXUx)

79 It is ridiculous here. A handful of days above freezing all year so far.

Posted by: real joe at March 21, 2014 11:52 AM (Lg1tN)

80 I hated Yuma.

Posted by: Russell Crowe

Not as much as I did.

Posted by: Christian Bale at March 21, 2014 11:53 AM (JtwS4)

81 I've been from Tehachapi to Tonopah. Really.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 11:53 AM (JNU6r)

82 According to the Spanglish translation at HealthCare.gov that would be El Deepo shitto. That's funny right there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2014 11:53 AM (659DL)

83 76 Wow, just heard one of the most plausible missing jet theories I've heard yet, and it involved an axe fight. On Hannity's radio show of all places. Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 03:52 PM (ZshNr) Well that's some weapons grade stupid, right there.

Posted by: tubal at March 21, 2014 11:53 AM (ETCgz)

84 "the absolute prolapsed fucking anus of Texas." Ahem.

Posted by: Laredo at March 21, 2014 11:54 AM (hFL/3)

I lived and worked in the Midland/Odessa area. For Halliburton. Save for the hot chicks in Midland, the absolute prolapsed fucking anus of Texas.

Full of creative people, though. Like the folks that pour concrete for their front yard and paint it green, or the ones who make one out of astroturf.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 11:54 AM (eoeps)

86 Is it 3:10 in Yuma?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 11:54 AM (CRyse)

87 Ten jobs for almost a billion dollars. That's damned good. Yeah, if each of them are getting paid 100 million.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 21, 2014 11:54 AM (xSegX)

88 I might have omitted some key points..., but axe fight!

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 11:54 AM (ZshNr)

the absolute prolapsed fucking anus of Texas

*books flight to Midland/Odessa*

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at March 21, 2014 11:55 AM (DrWcr)

90 >Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 03:53 PM (JNU6r)<

driven every kind of rig thats ever been made....

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 21, 2014 11:55 AM (sjdRT)

91 >>Who are the shareholders and how much money did they bundle for Obama's campaigns? Funny you should ask. http://tinyurl.com/ozrzg7e Green energy is nothing more than a way for liberal politicians to funnel money to their backers and vica versa.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 11:55 AM (g1DWB)

92 Bless you my 350.org followers. It's true that English majors, like me, don't know shit about economics but we do know the human soul, and this solar plant is good for the soul!

Posted by: Bill McKibben at March 21, 2014 11:55 AM (F58x4)

93 Wow, just heard one of the most plausible missing jet theories I've heard yet, and it involved an axe fight. On Hannity's radio show of all places.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 03:52 PM (ZshNr)

They had an axe fight on Hannity's radio show over the missing jet? That's really sticking to your thesis.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 21, 2014 11:55 AM (hLRSq)

94 It's common for axe fights to break out on a lonng flight,no?

Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 11:55 AM (zqvg6)

95 The funny thing is that mineral wealth is there for the taking.Even in fucking NY! Only a libtard would cast aside proven bounty for pie-in-the-sky snake oil. Or a fool, but I repeat myself.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 21, 2014 11:55 AM (naUcP)

96 Ten jobs for almost a billion dollars.
For $900 mill I will create 11 jobs.

Posted by: fluffy bids at March 21, 2014 11:56 AM (Ua6T/)

97 45 What's Spanish for "Deep Shit"?
*
*
Mierda profunda.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 21, 2014 11:56 AM (BDU/a)

98 There was a typo in the article. There weren't "10 jobs" in Yuma, but rather "3:10" jobs. Someone just left off the "3:" .

Posted by: zombie at March 21, 2014 11:56 AM (mizYg)

99 I guess 3:10 to Yuma didn't help.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 21, 2014 11:56 AM (IXrOn)

100 I wish I'd heard the whole thing, caught it midway through. Axe fight was when I joined the program.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 11:57 AM (ZshNr)

101 What's Spanish for "Deep Shit"? ******** Barak Obama Verde

Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 11:57 AM (RJMhd)

102 Let's talk about fracking, the Charlotte King effect, chemtrails, and the paranormal on my show, "Ground Zero."

Posted by: Clyde Lewis at March 21, 2014 11:57 AM (BAS5M)

103
"The U.S. has always led the world in innovation and Arizona is proud to be on the leading edge of the energy evolution. First SolarÂ’s announcement to build a new factory in Mesa and deploy their domestically manufactured modules in solar projects like Agua Caliente in Yuma County will not only create job opportunities for Arizonans, but also represents another important step toward greater energy security."

Senator John McCain
18 March 2011
http://tinyurl.com/c8aefxr

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 21, 2014 11:57 AM (kdS6q)

104 And for another example of how the Media/Entertainment industry are not only deliberate liars, but also a deadly threat to our nation and our society: http://curmudgeonlyskeptical.blogspot.com/2014/03/fracking-hell.html

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 21, 2014 11:57 AM (bb5+k)

105 John Schindler ‏@20committee +1000 RT / @jdvanlaningham Do people still believe that a Russian government that snatched Crimea didn't snatch Snowden's docs?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 11:57 AM (ZPrif)

106 "I guess 3:10 to Yuma didn't help." Sounds like 3:10 to Yuma is the ratio of unemployed....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 21, 2014 11:58 AM (gOoFi)

107 Posted by: zombie at March 21, 2014 03:56 PM (mizYg) You. Out.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 21, 2014 11:58 AM (659DL)

108 What's Spanish for "Deep Shit"? ******** Barak Obama Verde Glad I passed on that at the resturant last night.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 11:58 AM (CRyse)

109 No axe, we prefer machetes!

Posted by: Uyghur at March 21, 2014 11:58 AM (Aif/5)

110

What type of axes? Broad axe, battle axe, double-bitted? That's real important information.

Were there decapitations? Because axe fights call for decapitations. And vikings.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 21, 2014 11:58 AM (hLRSq)

111 And now Russell Crowe's latest movie is 40 days and 40 nights to Yuma.

Posted by: Fritz at March 21, 2014 11:58 AM (PnMCP)

112 driven every kind of rig thats ever been made.... I wouldn't claim that. ...but if you've got any weed, whites and/or wine?

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 11:59 AM (JNU6r)

113 94 It's common for axe fights to break out on a lonng flight,no?

Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 03:55 PM (zqvg6)

More common now, since you can't bring a crossbow on board.

Posted by: real joe at March 21, 2014 11:59 AM (Lg1tN)

114

You have to laugh when you read about a POS taking a billion of your dollars, handing to a bundler, who turns around and puts 30% of it back into the POS's reelection fund.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 11:59 AM (eoeps)

115 76 Wow, just heard one of the most plausible missing jet theories I've heard yet, and it involved an axe fight. On Hannity's radio show of all places. Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 03:52 PM (ZshNr) ************** What the fuck? So--the two Ukrainians--and the Russkie?

Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 11:59 AM (RJMhd)

116 Something smells with these unemployment statistics. How in the world did an Arizona city beat out the entire state of California for the worst unemployment rate? I'm sure California's stalwart champion, Governor Jerry Brown, will take immediate steps to rectify the situation. California will not be denied!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2014 11:59 AM (IN7k+)

117 I think he said it was next to his seat, in case of fire, or lack of firewood.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 11:59 AM (ZshNr)

118 Dear Dr. Moronz:

How long until we take the staples out of this arm wound? 10 days? Two weeks?

Thank you,
DG and her leech-ridden husband

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 21, 2014 12:00 PM (GrtrJ)

119 "I guess 3:10 to Yuma didn't help." More little boys on the 5:15. ...for research.

Posted by: Pete Townsend at March 21, 2014 12:00 PM (JNU6r)

120 >...but if you've got any weed, whites and/or wine?

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 03:59 PM (JNU6r)<

Little Feat for the win. Great song. Playing it right now.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 21, 2014 12:00 PM (sjdRT)

121 Are the people running the American economy the most incompetent morons in the history of mankind -- or are they intentionally trying to cripple America (as a way of "winning the Cold War" for the left after we thought it was already all over)? All other questions are subservient to that one. Posted by: zombie at March 21, 2014 03:48 PM (mizYg) I chose option three: They are enriching their buddies through their buddies ponzi schemes by stealing other people's money through inflation. The printed dollars acquire value by siphoning off the value of saved dollars. Their buddies are getting REAL VALUE for their fake dollars paid to their fake industries.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 21, 2014 12:00 PM (bb5+k)

122 *clickety clack clickety clack* *takes break from typing takes dainty sip from coffee cup* *clickety clack clickety clack*

Posted by: Billion dollar employee at March 21, 2014 12:00 PM (oFCZn)

123 Midland's hot but it does have two redeeming qualities that DFW doesn't have. It's closer to Colorado and Ruidoso is only a 3-4 hour drive when Midlanders wanna cool down in the summer.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 21, 2014 12:00 PM (gOoFi)

124 Laurie David's Cervix at March 21, 2014 03:57 PM (kdS6q) Take a look at the link I left at 92. The list of First Solar's investors is a who's who of Obama bundlers, liberals donors and even scam artist Al Gore.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 12:00 PM (g1DWB)

125 I saw absolute prolapsed fucking anus at the ABSOLUT Fest in 1997

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at March 21, 2014 12:00 PM (3ZtZW)

126 It was completely deadpan, but impossible to judge veracity. He had everything figured out, definitely the best call-in scenario I've heard yet.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 12:01 PM (ZshNr)

127 Something smells with these unemployment statistics. How in the world did an Arizona city beat out the entire state of California for the worst unemployment rate? I'm sure California's stalwart champion, Governor Jerry Brown, will take immediate steps to rectify the situation. California will not be denied! I offer New Mexico as tribute!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 12:01 PM (CRyse)

128 How long until we take the staples out of this arm wound? 10 days? Two weeks?

#twoweeks, of course.

Posted by: AoSHQ Style Guide at March 21, 2014 12:01 PM (fOLwM)

129 52 That 10 jobs for 1 billion is worth it to lefties. Because environment or something. Posted by: DangerGirl at March 21, 2014 03:49 PM (GrtrJ) No, because lefties are the people who are collecting the money. That's the bottom line. Government waste is utterly irrelevant if the beneficiaries are part of the leftest tribe.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 21, 2014 12:01 PM (bb5+k)

130 Too bad there wasn't a Ghurka on that flight.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2014 12:01 PM (BAS5M)

131 I can think of at least 700 people I'd like to get into an axe fight with - I'd have the axe, they would be unarmed.

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 12:02 PM (6H6o8)

132 Never bring a machete to an axe fight.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 21, 2014 12:02 PM (gOoFi)

133 76 Wow, just heard one of the most plausible missing jet theories I've heard yet, and it involved an axe fight. On Hannity's radio show of all places. Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 03:52 PM (ZshNr) What are the details?

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 21, 2014 12:03 PM (bb5+k)

134 I have an uncle in Midland that just relinquished his title of President of the local Midland Ski Club. They have a place in Vail they visit and can afford to live anywhere they choose but to them Midland is mecca. And he's not and never has been in the oil bidness either.

Posted by: DanMan at March 21, 2014 12:03 PM (RusNE)

135 I want someone to call into Hannity and say-- It was the ants from the mangosteens. It's better then that just right fire for 7 hours plus. jezzuz.

Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 12:04 PM (RJMhd)

136

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 04:02 PM (6H6o

Don't forget the pillaging.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 21, 2014 12:04 PM (hLRSq)

137 Maybe it was fire ants.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 12:04 PM (ZPrif)

138 I've been from Tehachapi to Tonopah.

Really.

So you're the guy that was following me with his brights on. That is so annoying.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 21, 2014 12:04 PM (4WhSY)

139 Feats Don't Fail Me Now (Live in '01) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgm1DgeBMHI

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 12:04 PM (JNU6r)

140

OT: [Drudge] Senior Citizen Jailed after food fight at early bird diner.

Those crazy Delta House guys just don't stop.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 21, 2014 12:05 PM (BAS5M)

141 Green energy is nothing more than a way for liberal politicians to funnel money to their backers and vica versa. Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 03:55 PM (g1DWB) That's what I said. Your version is more succinct.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 21, 2014 12:05 PM (bb5+k)

142 Come to Midland -- Only Hours Away From Some Kinda Nice Stuff!

Posted by: eleven at March 21, 2014 12:05 PM (Hy7dS)

143 The first time I saw Yuma, there was a huge trailer park you could see from miles away on I-8 Probably the only trailer park in the world that never got hit by a tornado

Posted by: kbdabear at March 21, 2014 12:05 PM (aTXUx)

144 Listen Ace you need to get with the p4rogram as long as EPA, Zuckerburg, and Al Gore are happy it's a billion well spent.... WELL spent.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 21, 2014 12:05 PM (TE35l)

145 The tapwater is so bad in Midland people drink their own piss to avoid it.

Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 12:05 PM (xWW96)

146

So, now the best investment vehicle ever created is the green energy company. You come up with a green energy project, and the democrat politicians you work with give you tax money in non-recourse loans as your profit. Then, you close the doors, and start another. There are fees involved, which in this investment vehicle are called political donations.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 12:05 PM (eoeps)

147 Liberals fucks protest when Koch money is used to build a hospital. This is the mentality you're dealing with. They'd rather have 20% unemployment and no fracking than 2% unemployment with fracking. THEY ARE INSANE

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 21, 2014 12:05 PM (0LHZx)

148 MH370 is at Bad Wolf Bay.

Posted by: Rose Tyler at March 21, 2014 12:05 PM (JtwS4)

149 Modern Seinfeld ‏@SeinfeldToday Kramer tries to avoid all March Madness news for a month, so he can DVR the whole tournament and binge-watch it later.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 12:05 PM (ZPrif)

150 Why do these stories never mention how the money was spent and who received that billion dollars that was spent to create 10 jobs.

HEY, somebody has to dust those solar panels....every dam day.

Posted by: Paladin at March 21, 2014 12:06 PM (LtaK3)

151 142 Eleven, Bete than scenic El Paso home of el world's biggest beach... 600b miles in any direction you'll find water mi amigo

Posted by: sven10077 at March 21, 2014 12:07 PM (TE35l)

152 --btw Turkey has twixed twitter fwiw

Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 12:07 PM (RJMhd)

153 yeah, but I bet those Midland texas oil workers have to pay for their own abortifactants.

Posted by: joeindc44 at March 21, 2014 12:07 PM (LEEQ+)

154 Dear Dr. Moronz: How long until we take the staples out of this arm wound? 10 days? Two weeks? Thank you, DG and her leech-ridden husband DG, seriously, how's he doing?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 12:07 PM (CRyse)

155 http://preview.tinyurl.com/nz4x4oj

First Solar CEO grilled for dumping stock after taxpayer loan

5/17/2012 08:58 AM

First Solar chairman of the board Michael Ahearn, who was once CEO of that fabled Â“green energyÂ” disaster, hopped on his corporate jet and flew to Washington this week, for a nostalgic look back at President ObamaÂ’s Â“investmentsÂ” held by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. I asked House Oversight chairman Darrell Issa if AhearnÂ’s jet was solar-powered, or perhaps powered by lightning strikes like the one used by FranceÂ’s new socialist president Francoise Hollande, but the busy Chairman hasnÂ’t gotten back to me yet.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at March 21, 2014 12:07 PM (KQp38)

156 Midland-Odessa - You'll smell it long before you see it There's a burning sweet sulfur odor you never forget

Posted by: kbdabear at March 21, 2014 12:07 PM (aTXUx)

157 Malaysian Airlines today confirmed that flight MH370 had been carrying highly flammable lithium-ion batteries in its cargo hold, re-igniting speculation that a fire may have caused its disappearance. Daily Mail.... Lithium Ion batteries, once they start to leak, produce a very hazardous fume... which disorients people... The fumes would not cause the built in Decompression detectors to go off... thus no Oxygen masks... Yup.... this could cause a 'Zombie' flight... ie people... some dead some alive... but plane still on autopilot... with commands being changed by the crew as their mental faculties degrade.. Anddddd... going on Oxygen AFTER inhalation, only helps somewhat... you have symptoms for hours after inhalation of those fumes.

Posted by: Romeo13 getting on his hoverboard and riding off at March 21, 2014 12:07 PM (84gbM)

158 Where the Hell is the Agua Caliente solar project, related to Yuma. I drove from Mesa to Yuma last November, and there is a huge solar project a coule of miles north of I-8, readily visible from the interstate, but I'd judge it to be a lot closer to Dateland than to Yuma. And Yuma really doesn't have a "metropolitan area". It's really just a small town that sprawls a little. From a tourist's viewpoint, it's not a bad little place at all, and there are thousands of snowbirds who winter there. I wouldn't think that the solar plant, worthless boondoggle that it is, is the cause of the high unemployment rate in Yuma, anymore than it is the cure.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 21, 2014 12:07 PM (yDmQD)

159 Pilot rejiggers the flight path/transponders, co-pilot objects/resists. Pilot uses the cockpit axe because he's older, slower than co-pilot. The gain in altitude is during the struggle, the drop was when one regained control. Struggle continued, until both pilots were incapacitated, plane ran on autopilot until it ran out of fuel, never changing altitude until it was dry, then tumbling down miles into the sea, disintegrating or diving to the depths, no fuel left, so no oil slick. From memory in a car, so take it for what it's worth.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 12:08 PM (ZshNr)

160 From the link to the Green Corruption writeup on First Solar. >>A Government Accountability Office report found that the Energy Department loan program skipped steps in its review process when evaluating loans, while in some cases it was impossible to determine if the review steps were even completed. The DOE apparently manipulated its analysis and strategically modified evaluations in order to issue loans to First Solar. Through the funding of First SolarÂ’s projects, favoritism was shown, as regulations may have been violated that required innovativeness and that allows for only one technology per project sponsorÂ—which may have been why the projects were sold as soon as the loans were funded. (Did they think we wouldnÂ’t notice?) Give money to Obama and you get tax dollars in exchange. It's just money laundering.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 12:08 PM (g1DWB)

161

>>>>Are the people running the American economy the most incompetent morons in the history of mankind -- or are they intentionally trying to cripple America (as a way of "winning the Cold War" for the left after we thought it was already all over)?

For myself, I believe the implosion what necessitated TARP hurt us very badly, and before that maybe 9/11 was much more serious economically than was let on, as in lost records at least.

I think the economy is basically running on fumes and because there's a lot of ruin in a superpower nation it hasn't quite collapsed. But we're kinda slouching there now. Obama and the Dems are circling the wagons for their own peeps, preserving as much of the good life as possible, but in a two-tiered sense. We are not in their club.

They're also throwing gobs of money at the poor and will continue to do so, and to distract them, while continuing to draw up plans for interdiction and suppression of various population centers when the time comes and the people start rioting.

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at March 21, 2014 12:08 PM (3ZtZW)

162 Talking about McFuckstick. He's on FNC now.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 12:08 PM (B8B+F)

163 My mansions and private jets say Green Energy works. Remember -- you are all evil sinners and killin' the planet -- so buy my book and DVD at amazon.com, only $19.95. I luuuuuuuuuuv youuuuuuuuu!

Posted by: Brother Al Gore at March 21, 2014 12:08 PM (ZPrif)

164 You know how to tell when it's spring in Midland? Nothing actually gets green, but all the illegals are knocked up.

Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 12:08 PM (xWW96)

165 Let's see Jeb Bush or Fat Punk with skidmarks in my shorts Chrissy Chrisco write an op-ed on why the federal government should not and cannot create jobs compared with the private sector. Crickets?.....

Posted by: IrishEd at March 21, 2014 12:09 PM (bfm04)

166 I chose option three: They are enriching their buddies through their buddies ponzi schemes by stealing other people's money through inflation. The printed dollars acquire value by siphoning off the value of saved dollars. Their buddies are getting REAL VALUE for their fake dollars paid to their fake industries. Posted by: D-Lamp Now I'm afraid. But you're possibly correct. Which means it's TIME FOR A POLL What is the real reason for the Obama administration's economic actions? 1. They are simply incompetent fools who believe fundamentally flawed economic theories. 2. They are hardcore leftists intentionally trying to cripple America's economic power as a way of retroactively "winning the Cold War." 3. They are crony capitalists funneling money to their corrupt bundlers and supporters while simultaneously taking wealth from the middle class through the inflation caused by printing up unbacked cash -- a clever theft/redistribution scheme. 4. A combination of the three (or just points 2 and 3). 5. Other (please elaborate.

Posted by: zombie at March 21, 2014 12:09 PM (mizYg)

167 >>>131 I can think of at least 700 people I'd like to get into an axe fight with - I'd have the axe, they would be unarmed. ---------------- Blindfold them and tie them to posts for extra sportsmanship.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 21, 2014 12:10 PM (RjEEc)

168 If you're a fan of Christian Rock, Midland-Odessa has lots of it. I still haven't figured out why Christian music sounds so ghey

Posted by: kbdabear at March 21, 2014 12:10 PM (aTXUx)

169 157 Malaysian Airlines today confirmed that flight MH370 had been carrying highly flammable lithium-ion batteries in its cargo hold, re-igniting speculation that a fire may have caused its disappearance. Daily Mail.... Lithium Ion batteries, once they start to leak, produce a very hazardous fume... which disorients people... The fumes would not cause the built in Decompression detectors to go off... thus no Oxygen masks... Yup.... this could cause a 'Zombie' flight... ie people... some dead some alive... but plane still on autopilot... with commands being changed by the crew as their mental faculties degrade.. Anddddd... going on Oxygen AFTER inhalation, only helps somewhat... you have symptoms for hours after inhalation of those fumes. Posted by: Romeo13 getting on his hoverboard and riding off at March 21, 2014 04:07 PM (84gbM) ************** Well right within that story they have a conflict--do they think it started a fire--or only produced fumes?

Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 12:11 PM (RJMhd)

170 Environmentalism is a cult. Sure, the cult leaders are getting rich, but most in the cult are true believers. And even many in the cult leadership are true believers -- just true believers who think it's ok to get rich at the same time.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 12:11 PM (ZPrif)

171 147 Mr Mau Mau, Yes..they ae...but don't worry as long as we bathe in the blood of Moloch and celebrate the glee mafia America is bound for a golden age champ. Spread Kindling..... They throw matches every day.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 21, 2014 12:11 PM (TE35l)

172 Gots to go, yo

Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at March 21, 2014 12:11 PM (3ZtZW)

173 >131 I can think of at least 700 people I'd like to get into an axe fight with - I'd have the axe, they would be unarmed.

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 04:02 PM (6H6o <

**backs away from kathysaysso slowly**

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 21, 2014 12:11 PM (sjdRT)

174 Posted by: DanMan at March 21, 2014 04:03 PM (RusNE) Midland Ski Club???? Used to run into them at Vail.... and I mean that literally... Got so I avoided them like the plague...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 21, 2014 12:11 PM (84gbM)

175 If it was an accident why was the transponder turned off?

Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 12:12 PM (zqvg6)

176 Green energy is nothing more than a way for liberal politicians to funnel money to their backers and vica versa. Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 03:55 PM (g1DWB) Yep. It's disgusting how many Dem backers with no previous experience in the 'green energy' industry started up firms (some just office fronts) and raked in subsequent grants and loans. There's a reason the US doesn't make the top 10 list of least corrupt countries.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 21, 2014 12:12 PM (SY2Kh)

177 Midland-Odessa - You'll smell it long before you see it

There's a burning sweet sulfur odor you never forget

Posted by: kbdabear at March 21, 2014 04:07 PM (aTXUx)

----------------------------------------------

That's the smell of money.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 12:12 PM (B8B+F)

178 I could cry for what is going on in this country. And over half the people vote for this idiocy.

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 21, 2014 12:12 PM (k3jg6)

179 yeah now Yuma got the McBlowjobs. Posted by: Guido 'trigger happy' at March 21, 2014 03:49 PM (15qFH) It's all Yuma ever had. Besides MCAS and YPG slightly north, that's it, other than winter lettuce, cotton and lemon orchards. In three years, I think it rained twice. If not for the Colorado River? Tumbleweeds.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC #banbossy! at March 21, 2014 12:12 PM (dFOie)

180 Yuma does have one thing going for it It's not Lordsburg or Deming New Mexico

Posted by: kbdabear at March 21, 2014 12:12 PM (aTXUx)

181 Well right within that story they have a conflict--do they think it started a fire--or only produced fumes? Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 04:11 PM (RJMhd) Could have been both.... Fire would cause the batteries to split, and emit fumes...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 21, 2014 12:12 PM (84gbM)

182 off half sock

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 21, 2014 12:13 PM (dFOie)

183 Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 04:08 PM (ZshNr) Not bad. I heard another plausible theory over at Instapundit. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 21, 2014 12:13 PM (bb5+k)

184 Obama's Economic Policy is driven by a desire to redistribute wealth. He's forcing as many people as possible to turn assets / investments into liquid all the while increasing taxation and government largesse. It's the Pigford Economy.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 12:13 PM (JNU6r)

185 If it was an accident why was the transponder turned off?

Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 04:12 PM (zqvg6)

----------------------------------------

My question also.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 12:13 PM (B8B+F)

186 Zombie, the leftists like to redistribute, but they cannot give it all to the poor, because the poor won't give a percentage back to the politician. So, mostly 3.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 21, 2014 12:13 PM (eoeps)

187 If you're a fan of Christian Rock, Midland-Odessa has lots of it.

Crucifictorius FTW.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 21, 2014 12:14 PM (B/VB5)

188 Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 03:48 PM (zqvg6 Yeah, I'm pining for those days honestly

In those days I had a job.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 21, 2014 12:14 PM (U8W/7)

189 "Come to Midland -- Only Hours Away From Some Kinda Nice Stuff! " Heh. But true.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 21, 2014 12:14 PM (gOoFi)

190

Kbdbear, some non-ghey christian music.

http://tinyurl.com/4zagwln

Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 12:14 PM (xWW96)

191 Zombie, They are hard core leftist & believe that global warming is real. That makes them idiots. They also hate the US.

Posted by: Carol at March 21, 2014 12:14 PM (DVPta)

192 Dangergirl, No clue. The younger son got the staples out of his head 10 days after they went in, but they always took my staples out before I left the hospital after my c-sections and replaced them with skin tape. I think that's mostly to have a less gnarly scar though. *shrugs shoulders*

Posted by: Laredo at March 21, 2014 12:14 PM (hFL/3)

193 If only the passengers & crew had been signed up for Obamacare, this would never have happened.

Posted by: Get Covered at March 21, 2014 12:15 PM (GSIDW)

194
Solar and wind power are the future for America. Thankfully, your children will benefit from these phenomenon with good jobs, dramatically reduced electric costs, and most importantly, reliable and sustainable electric that doesn't harm our beloved Guia!

Posted by: Nan Pelosi, D-FreakyCalifornia at March 21, 2014 12:15 PM (nQjHM)

195 Go away Laredo sock.

Posted by: Lauren at March 21, 2014 12:15 PM (hFL/3)

196 If it was an accident why was the transponder turned off? Smoking Di-Lithium Crystals will make you do some crazy shit.

Posted by: Commander laForge at March 21, 2014 12:15 PM (JNU6r)

197 My only lasting image of New Mexico is all those little old dilapidated campers you see 3 miles off in the distance from the highway. That's like, all there is in New Mexico.

Posted by: eleven at March 21, 2014 12:15 PM (Hy7dS)

198 165 Let's see Jeb Bush or Fat Punk with skidmarks in my shorts Chrissy Chrisco write an op-ed on why the federal government should not and cannot create jobs compared with the private sector. Crickets?..... Posted by: IrishEd at March 21, 2014 04:09 PM (bfm04) Fuck that fat punk. He sweats Crisco and pisses Mazola. For his birthday he had a sugar cake with suet icing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2014 12:15 PM (oFCZn)

199 166 zombie: I've always believed it was #2. My question is: Who is Obama really working for? He certainly didn't become President through his own efforts. He was put there.

Posted by: rickl at March 21, 2014 12:15 PM (zoehZ)

200 I've seen Lipo batteries go up at the RC Airplane field. Even a small one will scorch a 2 foot circle in the grass. Smokes, goes up quickly in flames, then smokes some more.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 21, 2014 12:15 PM (ojnk6)

201 181 Well right within that story they have a conflict--do they think it started a fire--or only produced fumes? Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 04:11 PM (RJMhd) Could have been both.... Fire would cause the batteries to split, and emit fumes... Posted by: Romeo13 at March 21, 2014 04:12 PM (84gbM) ************** Well I don't see how the fire doesn't start taking out other things. You would have to believe that the fire is highly selective in what it wants to "melt"--and that it stays low grade--for how long? Or does the damage and then goes out somehow... And it magically happens at the IGARI waypoint...

Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 12:16 PM (RJMhd)

202 Posted by: Nan Pelosi, D-FreakyCalifornia at March 21, 2014 04:15 PM (nQjHM) Excuse me ma'am. Your personal jet is ready.

Posted by: RWC at March 21, 2014 12:16 PM (fWAjv)

203 175 If it was an accident why was the transponder turned off? Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 04:12 PM (zqvg6) Electrical fires do really weird things to power buses... Scenario... Electrical fire in the Hold... Fire causes batteries to split putting out fumes... Fire is contained, but knocks out power to comms and Transponder (which did go out at the same time)... No one realizes what the fumes are... just a 'funny smell'.... right up until people start feeling dizzy and passing out... Crew.... going out... knowing they are feeling weird, punch in course to nearest airport... then black out...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 21, 2014 12:16 PM (84gbM)

204 maddogg - that there was funny

Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 12:16 PM (G+Wff)

205 >>85
I lived and worked in the Midland/Odessa area. For Halliburton. Save for the hot chicks in Midland, the absolute prolapsed fucking anus of Texas.<<

No, the anus of Texas would be Juarez, Mexico.

Posted by: Sphynx at March 21, 2014 12:16 PM (OZmbA)

206 If it was an accident why was the transponder turned off? Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 04:12 PM (zqvg6) Maybe that's how the fight started. If ever determined, I suspect the truth will be far less lurid though.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 21, 2014 12:16 PM (SY2Kh)

207

Malaysian Airlines today confirmed that flight MH370 had been carrying highly flammable lithium-ion batteries in its cargo hold, re-igniting speculation that a fire may have caused its disappearance.

Well, that right there is the problem. You don't re-ignite speculation around all those LiOn batteries.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 21, 2014 12:16 PM (JtwS4)

208 "That's like, all there is in New Mexico." Didn't you see the Indian casino?

Posted by: New Mexico at March 21, 2014 12:16 PM (gOoFi)

209 Yuma does have one thing going for it

It's not Lordsburg or Deming New Mexico

At least Deming has Burger Time (home of the Fajita Burrito). Yuma? Not so much.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 21, 2014 12:17 PM (4WhSY)

210

Sad to say, all the anti-Yuma comments are true. And the Agua Caliente Solar Plant is in the desert about a mile from where I live. In fact, there doesn't look like anything much out there, unless they are underground so maybe I am assuming wrong. There's a gravel road going out there, but I haven't been to check it out. And just about every school parking lot as well as several stores have the solar panels in them. And yet the electric bills are very high.

The high unemployment is probably because of the agriculture. Yuma is the winter lettuce capital of the world (or so they say). The field workers get unemployment when the lettuce season is over. Well, that and the high incidence of people on welfare/food stamp/WIC/Obama phones and whatever else they have available to them here. We do have the best winters anywhere. It never reached freezing this winter.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at March 21, 2014 12:17 PM (YC1x7)

211 >>What is the real reason for the Obama administration's economic actions? They need a funding base and the partnership they have created with green energy companies is it. Did you ever wonder why seemingly intelligent people buy into some of the looney shit that liberals spew, particularly when it comes to things like green energy? Follow the money. Green energy is just a wealth transfer machine and has been since day 1. I've been saying this for years but if people would really go back and look at the beginning of the hole green energy/global warming movement the founders, guys like Maurice Strong who has long been one of Gore's running mates and as scummy a human as you will ever find, basically admitted its all about money and wealth transfer. They like to say that its transfer from wealthy countries to poor but its really all about enriching themselves. As a bonus it provides a huge funding mechanism for liberal politicians.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 12:17 PM (g1DWB)

212 First Solar stock up over 30% in the last week. Just sayin.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 21, 2014 12:17 PM (xq1UY)

213 >That's like, all there is in New Mexico.

Posted by: eleven at March 21, 2014 04:15 PM (Hy7dS)<

Ahem.

Posted by: Albuquerque & Sante Fe at March 21, 2014 12:17 PM (sjdRT)

214 5. Other (please elaborate. Posted by: zombie at March 21, 2014 04:09 PM (mizYg) All of the above. They are incompetent. They are crooked. They are hard core leftist trying to cripple the United States. Their actions are the vector sum of these underlying components.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 21, 2014 12:17 PM (bb5+k)

215 4. A combination of the three (or just points 2 and 3). All three fit, but this is the best choice.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 21, 2014 12:17 PM (dFOie)

216 First Solar stock up over 30% in the last week. Must have received a Grant Approval.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 12:17 PM (JNU6r)

217 DG, seriously, how's he doing? Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 04:07 PM (CRyse)

He seems fine. The wound looks pretty good, it's nice and clean and the edges have held together well with the staples. I'm trying to Dr. Intarwebs when he can get it wet (it looks like about 48 hours) and when to take the staples out (2 weeksish since it's on an area that moves?)

He's a tough old bird. I would have thrown up then passed out.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 21, 2014 12:18 PM (GrtrJ)

218 >>
It's not Lordsburg or Deming New Mexico
<<

Come to Deming . . . for the ass groping.

Posted by: Sphynx at March 21, 2014 12:18 PM (OZmbA)

219 Oops, thought you were talking about the 'axe fight' scenario.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 21, 2014 12:18 PM (SY2Kh)

220 166 4. A combination of the three

Posted by: Get Covered at March 21, 2014 12:18 PM (GSIDW)

221 My question is: Who is Obama really working for? He certainly didn't become President through his own efforts. He was put there.

Posted by: rickl at March 21, 2014 04:15 PM (zoehZ)

---------------------------------------------

Who was the prominent person who seemed to always attend those closed campaign gatherings? George Soros.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 12:18 PM (B8B+F)

222 204maddogg - that there was funny

Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 04:16 PM (G+Wff)

Heh. Unfortunately all too true though

Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 12:18 PM (xWW96)

223 There are a lot of rules concerning the carriage of batteries on airplanes. Packaged the right way, separated, contacts made so as to not be able to touch one another, etc....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 21, 2014 12:18 PM (gOoFi)

224 Well right within that story they have a conflict--do they think it started a fire--or only produced fumes? Batteries touched, shorted? Fumes produced?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 12:19 PM (CRyse)

225 175 If it was an accident why was the transponder turned off? Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 04:12 PM (zqvg6) This explanation says that would be normal procedure to deal with a fire. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 21, 2014 12:19 PM (bb5+k)

226 Posted by: zombie at March 21, 2014 04:09 PM (mizYg) Well, you can never tell what a leftist actually *believes* because they lie constantly, but otherwise fairly dead on. We had enough information early on to know what was going to happen, we had the majority of the history of the people involved... But, on average, people are ignorant of most of what goes on in the world - and from their point of view, that's just fine. And when your government hasn't arrogated absolute power to itself, as a matter of fact, it *is* just fine. The problem is, if you're ignorant, you never know when that line is crossed. I don't even blame people, well, most of them. It just is. Unfortunately, mass graves, starvation, repression, war, corruption and powermongering "just are" as well. I do wonder sometimes if the Administration is still shaking its collective head at what they're getting away with. Probably not - narcissism.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 21, 2014 12:19 PM (qyfb5)

227 Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 04:17 PM (g1DWB) How does one file for this shit? I kinda want to submit an application that says "I have no experience or intention of starting a green company, but President Obama is handing out money."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at March 21, 2014 12:19 PM (U8W/7)

228 4. A combination of the three (voting again because Democrazi)

Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 12:19 PM (GSIDW)

229

There was an article in the front page of the Midland Reporter-Telegram last Saturday. An economist hired by the economic development board to forcast economic activity in the Midland-Odessa area stated that the Midland-Odessa economy is 55% bigger in January of 14 than it was in January 08. That means that a population of about a quarter of a million folks has more than half again more pie in just six years. Incredible.

And the traffic validates it. Major Midland-Odessa streets at times look a lot like Dallas or Houston. Glutted with traffic.

Posted by: pendejo grande at March 21, 2014 12:20 PM (OZW5B)

230 Heh I've actually been to New Mexico. Spent about 20 minutes in Raton. Wished I hadn't.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2014 12:20 PM (oFCZn)

231 So Lithium Battery Fumes start Zombie Ax Fight and Crash Plan. I really should become a news reporter - I'd clean up.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at March 21, 2014 12:20 PM (oDCMR)

232 He's a tough old bird. I would have thrown up then passed out. Posted by: DangerGirl at March 21, 2014 04:18 PM (GrtrJ) I just know he loved taking that picture.

Posted by: RWC at March 21, 2014 12:20 PM (fWAjv)

233 "Who is Obama really working for?" Who does Number 2 work for?!?!?! Who does Number 2 work for?!?!?!

Posted by: Austin Powers at March 21, 2014 12:20 PM (gOoFi)

234 He's a tough old bird. I would have thrown up then passed out. Dayum DG. Glad he is going to be ok.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 12:21 PM (CRyse)

235 Crew.... going out... knowing they are feeling weird, punch in course to nearest airport... then black out... Posted by: Romeo13 at March 21, 2014 04:16 PM (84gbM) ************* I don't think that explains anything after the VAMPI waypoint.

Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 12:21 PM (RJMhd)

236 233 "Who is Obama really working for?" Who does Number 2 work for?!?!?! Who does Number 2 work for?!?!?! Posted by: Austin Powers at March 21, 2014 04:20 PM (gOoFi) Not me!

Posted by: #6, running from a Big White Ball at March 21, 2014 12:21 PM (84gbM)

237

>"Ten jobs for almost a billion dollars."...

Give me one tenth of a billion (100 million? math is hard) and I promise to never ask for my social security checks.

Posted by: wth at March 21, 2014 12:21 PM (wAQA5)

238 That's a good scenario. Accounts for the "lost" 6 hours of flight with no apparent destination.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 21, 2014 12:21 PM (ZshNr)

239 AlmostYuman

Now that's a funny nick.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 21, 2014 12:22 PM (4WhSY)

240 Nood. Please proceed accordingly.

Posted by: johnd01 at March 21, 2014 12:22 PM (ukNFU)

241 Maybe that's how the fight started.

If ever determined, I suspect the truth will be far less lurid though.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 21, 2014 04:16 PM (SY2Kh)

------------------------------------------------

I'm still going with hijacked. It's just as simple and non-lurid an explanation as a fire/crash is.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 12:22 PM (B8B+F)

242 I believe Soros is the man behind the boy, we know SCOAMF acts like a child with enemies list & the way he talks. What does Rush call him? The man child?

Posted by: Carol at March 21, 2014 12:23 PM (S8y+1)

243 I don't think that explains anything after the VAMPI waypoint. Posted by: tasker at March 21, 2014 04:21 PM (RJMhd) Hmmmm.... wonder what happens when the Auto Pilot hits the last programmed waypoint? Couldn't just land.... would it go to some predetermined course.... like... South?

Posted by: #6, running from a Big White Ball at March 21, 2014 12:23 PM (84gbM)

244

So Lithium Battery Fumes start Zombie Ax Fight and Crash Plan. I really should become a news reporter- I'd clean up.

Hey buddy, aren't you going to put me in the story?

Posted by: The Werewolf at March 21, 2014 12:23 PM (JtwS4)

245 I just know he loved taking that picture. Posted by: RWC at March 21, 2014 04:20 PM (fWAjv)

The before or after?

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 21, 2014 12:24 PM (GrtrJ)

246 210 Sad to say, all the anti-Yuma comments are true. And the Agua Caliente Solar Plant is in the desert about a mile from where I live. In fact, there doesn't look like anything much out there, unless they are underground so maybe I am assuming wrong. There's a gravel road going out there, but I haven't been to check it out.And just about every school parking lot as well as several stores have the solar panels in them. And yet the electric bills are veryhigh. The high unemployment is probably because of the agriculture. Yuma is the winter lettuce capital of the world (or so they say). The field workers get unemployment when the lettuce season is over. Well, that and the high incidence of people on welfare/food stamp/WIC/Obama phones and whatever else they have available to them here. We do have the best winters anywhere. It never reached freezing this winter. Posted by: AlmostYuman at March 21, 2014 04:17 PM (YC1x7) Oh, don't get me wrong. I loved that fucking place. I specifically put in for it when I rotated back to the states. I took a part time job with one of the crop dusting outfits (flying Bell 47-G5As at the time). Big money for those guys in winter lettuce and cotton. I had a royal blast in Yuma.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 21, 2014 12:24 PM (dFOie)

247

Q: A man has a billion dollars. What comes next?

A: A female Brazilian.

Posted by: wth at March 21, 2014 12:24 PM (wAQA5)

248 >>Hmmmm.... wonder what happens when the Auto Pilot hits the last programmed waypoint? If its anything like an auto-pilot on boats it just keeps going on the previous heading.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 12:25 PM (g1DWB)

249 Grant? First Solar's shares up on new earnings guidance, and a major deal with General Electric -- but mostly...

"Vampi Wei Point" sounds like one of MPPPP's 1920's hot actresses.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 21, 2014 12:25 PM (xq1UY)

250 How does one file for this shit? I kinda want to submit an application that says "I have no experience or intention of starting a green company, but President Obama is handing out money." 1. Become friends with rich liberals. 2. Collect political contributions from rich liberals. 3. Give the money you collected to the Democratic Party 4. Write your own ticket. Already rich? Take your pick of ambassador postings. Not rich yourself? Rent an office, apply for federal funding. Pay yourself (and close relatives) a handsome salary, use the rest of the money to subcontract any actual work to a legitimate company.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 21, 2014 12:27 PM (SY2Kh)

251 The before or after? Posted by: DangerGirl at March 21, 2014 04:24 PM (GrtrJ) I guess the after. I didn't see the before (assuming before is without staples.)

Posted by: RWC at March 21, 2014 12:27 PM (fWAjv)

252 116 Something smells with these unemployment statistics. How in the world did an Arizona city beat out the entire state of California for the worst unemployment rate? There is an Indian reservation nearby. I wonder if that plays a role.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 21, 2014 12:32 PM (xSegX)

253
The field workers get unemployment when the lettuce season is over.
Posted by: AlmostYuman

Are you sure? Because to get unemployment, the workers would have to be citizens -- or I believe at least legal residents. And we've been informed by everyone in DC that those are the type of jobs "Americans won't do", hence the pressing need for amnesty.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 21, 2014 12:33 PM (kdS6q)

254 Posted by: RWC at March 21, 2014 04:27 PM (fWAjv)

He's pretty proud of the whole stapling thing. The before photo almost made me faint. Yeesh.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 21, 2014 12:36 PM (GrtrJ)

255 >>>>110 What type of axes? Broad axe, battle axe, double-bitted? That's real important information. Actually, they were halberds.

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 21, 2014 12:36 PM (8MjqI)

256 From the Texas Â“Welcome to New ResidentsÂ” guide: To be a Texan, you do not need to own an oil well, unless of course, you live in Midland, where itÂ’s mandatory.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 21, 2014 12:55 PM (WX3R9)

257 Agua Caliente? Seriously? "hot water" indeed.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at March 21, 2014 01:12 PM (1hM1d)

258 Hey, did anybody check Juan McCain's bank account? Know what I mean? He might be employee number 9.

Posted by: Erowmero at March 21, 2014 01:16 PM (1gcFZ)

259 48 Remember when the unemployment rate under GW was real low so the cry of the lefty was "they are Mcjobs" or "not good jobs". Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 03:48 PM (zqvg6) That is still the lefty cry whenever any mention is made of Texas, where about half of US jobs have been created over the last 5 years, and one third of all the well paid jobs created. The reply I ALWAYS get from them is that ALL of TX's jobs are minimum wage. A squawking parrot puts more thought into its utterances than those idiot lefties.

Posted by: stace at March 21, 2014 01:30 PM (9PXzx)

260 Laurie David's Cervix: I can't guarantee all the field workers are legal, but with any of job, they are supposed to be. I have read in the paper that lots go on unemployment after the lettuce season is over. Whether the illegals are allowed to collect, I have no idea. And yes, we do have 2 Indian Reservation here, with 3 casinos within 20 miles of Yuma. One of the reservations (with 2 casinos) is across the Colorado River in CA.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at March 21, 2014 01:53 PM (YC1x7)

261 Do people still believe that a Russian government that snatched Crimea didn't snatch Snowden's docs? Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 21, 2014 03:57 PM (ZPrif) ******************** Sure, but they're the same people who also believed that Obama's would be the most open, honest, transparent, lobbyist-free, administration evah! and that if they liked their health insurance plan, they could keep their plan.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at March 21, 2014 02:17 PM (wqqv3)

262

Just back from Midland/Odessa visiting my youngest sister. Unfreaking believable. Traffic everywhere. Trucks of every description on the roads, parked in lots, in front of houses. Man camps going up, hotels full, apartments full, stores full, restaurants full. Chili's has to block off half their dining room on the weekends because they can't hire enough wait staff. No one wants to work in a restaurant when you can make 10 times the money working in the oil field. Help wanted signs everywhere. Pizza Hut I saw had a sign advertising a guaranteed $100.00 dollars a shift and saying they would pay more. The paper had 10 houses listed for sale. 10! They think (they don't really know) the population is 175k. It was 99k as recently as 2004. Jobs everywhere, doing every thing. The oil field pays very, very good money for most of the jobs. Campers everywhere, with people living in them. I lived there in the seventies, and I have never seen anything like what is going on out there now. And the production fields just keep getting bigger and bigger. The amount of recoverable oil, not gas, is staggering. And the oil is light sweet crud, not like the oil from tar sands. I have seen oil produced out there that you could almost run in your car straight from the ground.

The trade off is flat, scrubby mesquite, sand terrain. High crime rate, and dirty landscape strewn with paper and trash. Hotter than hell in the summer, and a drought that has gone on so long no one knows when it rained last. Apartments that would rent for 800 a month in Dallas are 1700.00 a month. The water tastes like sewer water, and it may in fact be sewer water. But, brother, I'm talking jobs, jobs, jobs, and a huge shitload of money being made every day.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at March 21, 2014 02:23 PM (lyPWx)

263 Midland is just the biggest most central point. it goes down to san angelo, all the way west into new mexico.

    Midland is booming about a much as the eagleford south of san antonio, maybe a bit more now, the eagleford has matured enough that its not a balls out race to lock in leases anymore, its just a balls out race to get as much oil up as possible while its still over $90 bucks a barrel.

    If nat gas gets up above $5 or $6 dollars a thousand, there will be a whole new boom of drilling

     The only pizza hut for 60 miles is a goose neck trailer restaurant parked in a grocery store parking lot in dilley, texas.

Posted by: plithy at March 21, 2014 04:02 PM (PAry6)

264 you blood thins out and you get used to it, as long as you drink and pour enough water over yourself, you wont overheat in the texas sun. they have started to require cooling trailers which are either enclosed with ac, or somewhat enclosed with a swamp cooler. If your in a 105 degrees, a little bit of shade and a cool mist that feels like 75 to 80 degrees will send a shiver down your spine.

trust me, i am in excess of 300 lbs and have worked in south texas for two summers, dont get me wrong, the sun in south texas in july, august, and even september is a physical presence on you from about 8:30 am til 7:30 pm, but it aint near as dangerous as a north dakota winter.

Posted by: plithy at March 21, 2014 04:12 PM (PAry6)

265 Mikeyslaw @ 262-
'dirty landscape strewn with paper and trash'? So, essentially Kuwait without the mohamadans? Iraq?

Posted by: Erowmero at March 21, 2014 04:52 PM (1gcFZ)

266 Alright! Enough of this unfounded crap! Enough of this Yuma bashing from a bunch of smug assholes who probably never spent a full day in town and just love to talk shit. Oh right, all Yuma has going for it is YPG and MCAS and Agricultlure. Oh really, just two major military installations that will never be shut down because of their importance and a multi-billion dollar AG industry. So many trucks coming in and out of our plants 24/7 loading up with winter produce to all points in the country not to mention all our citrus and other AG commodities around the world. Oh yeah, another thing, Yuma with a urban population of about 135,000 and metro pop. of over 260 thousand is classified as a metro area! Not to mention 80-90,000 additional winter visitors who stay for 6 monthst to enjoy our awsome winter weather. So talk to the Census Bureau if it conflicts with your idea of what a metro is, Jerk. Recreational opportunities abound that have people driving hours from California, Phoenix, Tucson and other cities. Ever heard of the Colorado River? In-N-out, Five Guys Burgers, Red Lobster, Sam's Club, a Radisson Luxury Hotel with a five star caliber restaurant that leaves visitors from San Diego and other places wishing they had it in their city. A quaint and beautiful old town section that other cities would kill for. Did I mention museums and attractions that highlight our incredible history dating back to the Spanish Conquistadores and vital to the westward expansion of our country. How about San Diego and the ocean only 2 1/2 hours away and Phoenix, Tucson, Las Vegas and L.A. less than five hours drive. A major Mexican City with over a million people, the Capital of Baja Califorinia, Two local News Stations and Casino Resorts, beautiful Golf Courses and I could go on and on. So yeah, screw all you malcontents and especially the clown who actually lives here and spews crap instead of acknowledging the awesome f'ing city I live in. Yeah, we have issues just like every city but I will not let this great city be shit on and not respond.

Posted by: July at March 22, 2014 11:34 PM (0ml0I)

267 And another thing, if I may be allowed to continue my rant, Yuma, with a city proper population of approx. 97,000, should in no manner of form be compared to Deming, N.M., other than being about 5x its size. Really, I guess having a flipping fajita burrito makes up for that. So no, Yuma is not a small town or even a small city but rather a medium sized city. Show me a small city with three Super Wal-Marts in its city limits and six High Schools, a Junior College and University Branch, just to offer some perspective and educate you mouth-breathers. Also, let me expand on our recreational activities. We have water activities due to the close proximity of the river and lakes which includes fishing, boating, water jet skiing, tubing...etc. We have sand dunes less than 10 miles away with crowds estimated in the 100 thousands during major holidays enjoying off-road activities. We have hunting activities, with hotels being filled twice a year for our dove hunting seasons. Yeah, Yuma is such a hell-hole that our visitors keep coming back and our population has doubled in the twenty years that I've lived here. Oh by the way, I do agree that that Solar Plant is in Yuma County and has little bearing on our unemployment outlook. Our unemployment numbers get skewed due to our seasonal agriculture workers who migrate to California and back and seek unemployment benefits. I look at the reality of our economy, for example, at least three car dealerships having expanded and constructed beautiful new dealerships, our regional mall constantly packed. Just trying to set the record straight and refute some of the baseless attacks by asshats who don't know any better.

Posted by: July at March 23, 2014 03:44 AM (0ml0I)

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