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February 18, 2014

Update: That Entire "Economist/YouGov 71% Regret Voting for Obama" Post is Wrong
— Ace

Good Lord.

Obviously: R E T R A C T E D

Posted by: Ace at 12:07 PM | Comments (94)
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1 Bullshit @ The Economist? The endorsed-Obama-twice Economist? Unpossible.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 18, 2014 12:09 PM (m5+rk)

2 It's still pretty bad, no?

Posted by: Iasonas at February 18, 2014 12:09 PM (RUraj)

3 whoops!

"unexpectedly...", of course. %-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 18, 2014 12:10 PM (q+fqH)

4 71% regret participating in poll.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 18, 2014 12:10 PM (kVfSG)

5 it's totally bullshit. They asked people who voted for Obama if they would vote for him again. only 10% said "not sure." OF THAT AND ONLY THAT TINY SUBGROUP, they asked the "regret" question. But YouGov represented this as a question asked to all Obama voters.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2014 12:11 PM (/FnUH)

6 Anyway, looks like Allah is mainly fingering YouGuv as the purveyor of the bad headline. I guess I retract my first comment

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 18, 2014 12:11 PM (m5+rk)

7 Everyone I know who voted for the bastard is still drinking the kool-aid. Just a personal observation.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 18, 2014 12:11 PM (l3vZN)

When you vote for a clown, don't be surprised when a circus starts

Shamelessly stolen

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 18, 2014 12:12 PM (nTgAI)

9 They got Drudge as well .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2014 12:12 PM (XWw96)

10 So Everything that guy just said is Bullshit ?

Posted by: seamrog at February 18, 2014 12:12 PM (r1ETs)

11 Yeah, that whole thing didn't sound very truthy to begin with.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 18, 2014 12:13 PM (7ObY1)

12 Pivot.

Posted by: NCKate at February 18, 2014 12:13 PM (1FoIf)

13 Boehner had an opportunity to capture that 71% and now it's gone. Nice going dumbass.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 18, 2014 12:13 PM (+lsX1)

14 I'm the only one who knows what I was thinking when asked questions for the poll.

Posted by: seamrog at February 18, 2014 12:14 PM (r1ETs)

15 71% of The Economist editorial board regrets the hiring of a certain person whose desk is to soon be replaced by a smoking crater.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 18, 2014 12:14 PM (bPxS6)

16 9 They got Drudge as well . And Weasel Zippers

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 18, 2014 12:15 PM (7ObY1)

17 Ace don't you know that if you want to be viewed as a respected journalist you're just supposed to stealth edit your previous article with no mention of the changes or retractions. You know like the USA today article finally putting in its nagin article that he is a democrat.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 18, 2014 12:15 PM (27nnw)

18 Everything That Poll Just Said is BULLSHIT!

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 18, 2014 12:15 PM (KgN8K)

19 So basically, 70% of people who "weren't sure if they'd vote for Obama again" regret their vote? Is that right?

Posted by: Lauren at February 18, 2014 12:15 PM (CNua6)

20 Um, what's that term again ? vet ? vetted ? no not the car.

Posted by: seamrog at February 18, 2014 12:16 PM (r1ETs)

21 35 person sample size? Sandra Fluke samples more per day than that.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke Has No Regets at February 18, 2014 12:16 PM (nbGZj)

22 We don't understand, old chaps. We loaned the Economist our best people!

Posted by: the lancet at February 18, 2014 12:16 PM (14um2)

23 Okay, the kickstarter to buy Al Qaeda another plane is back on...

Posted by: JEM at February 18, 2014 12:16 PM (o+SC1)

24 Whoopsie! :-)

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2014 12:16 PM (zDsvJ)

25 "Not Sure" polled surprisingly well, though. Must be the Brawndo.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 18, 2014 12:16 PM (7ObY1)

26 polls...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at February 18, 2014 12:16 PM (IXrOn)

27 I told you it was bullshit. You should've known it was bullshit when obama's approvals don't jive with it.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 18, 2014 12:16 PM (rLVhf)

28 Ot: Iran is releasing death row prisoners if they memorise the Quran. Makes sense. If someone's memorised the Quran he IS a Quran. Damaging the storage mechanism would be like burning a codex it's written on.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 18, 2014 12:16 PM (m5+rk)

29 (that's a joke, son...)

Posted by: JEM at February 18, 2014 12:17 PM (o+SC1)

30 Ace, Do what the big media groups do, stealth edit. Don't retract

. (Also academics do that too!)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 18, 2014 12:17 PM (GaqMa)

31 17 Ace don't you know that if you want to be viewed as a respected journalist you're just supposed to stealth edit your previous article with no mention of the changes or retractions. --- LOL. Too true.

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2014 12:17 PM (zDsvJ)

32 next you're gonna tell us we're losing on the gun thinger

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 18, 2014 12:17 PM (KgN8K)

I still regret my Vote for Juan McCain in 2008.

And Mitt in 2012.

I should have voted a Republican.

Posted by: rd at February 18, 2014 12:17 PM (D+lxs)

34 But see how powerfully opinion-shaping this polling racket is? We really ought to be in it -- this is how you reach the Dumb people.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 18, 2014 12:18 PM (rLVhf)

35 They got Drudge as well . Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2014 04:12 PM (XWw96) I don't think Drudge cares. He's playing the leftist game these days. Put out headlines. Create a buzz on headline alone.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at February 18, 2014 12:18 PM (IXrOn)

36 And I thought I was embarrassed.

Posted by: Cancer Dog with Gay Haircut at February 18, 2014 12:18 PM (S0eIZ)

37 Well,they SHOULD fucking regret it.

Posted by: steevy at February 18, 2014 12:18 PM (zqvg6)

38 And you believed it because i) it made sense to you, and ii) you wanted to believe it. This is the Art Of Bullshit. We need to learn this art, quickly, or we go extinct.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 18, 2014 12:19 PM (rLVhf)

39 Imagine there's no commies It's easier than you think No jack-boots treading on us No kool-aid forced to drink Imagine all the people Living lives so free You may say I'm a rightwingteapartyextremist But I'm not the only one I hope one day you'll join us Or self-deport to the commie hellhole Of your choice

Posted by: John Lennon's Retraction at February 18, 2014 12:20 PM (GSIDW)

40 Do what the big media groups do, stealth edit. Don't retract . (Also academics do that too!) Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 18, 2014 04:17 PM (GaqMa) Hell, just say "you don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at February 18, 2014 12:20 PM (IXrOn)

41 So 25/35 of some mysterious sample of Obama voters wouldn't vote for him again?

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 18, 2014 12:20 PM (GrtrJ)

42 I still want to slap the Obama voters all over again

Posted by: Votermom at February 18, 2014 12:21 PM (GSIDW)

43 Aw, you can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forty percent of all people know that.

Posted by: Homer Simpson at February 18, 2014 12:21 PM (ZKzrr)

44 They don't even try. Long live Breitbart.

Posted by: Feh at February 18, 2014 12:21 PM (hruRg)

45 Imagine no possessions? Squeeeeeeeeee Yeeeeeearrrrrrrrgh ShreeeeeeeeeeeK! That was just some shit John wrote for the dopey hippies. We didn't mean for it to include US!

Posted by: Yoko Oh No at February 18, 2014 12:21 PM (7ObY1)

46 I totally down for the Patches. We should have multiple. This is an AWESOME idea.
We need some swag. Honestly, whats the point of being a member of the moron horde if you can't show it. I personally love calmly and respectfully intellectually destroying lefties. Please let me do it wearing a t-shirt with a pudding cup + Balls + (Down Arrow) = VICTORY.
Patches, hats, and t-shirts now.
Machetes, mines, and moonshine later.

Posted by: Murphy Bush at February 18, 2014 12:22 PM (vC6Bj)

47 Clearly false as our model, that we refuse to release the source code for, clearly shows Obama's support rising like a hockey stick.

Posted by: unnamed penn state employee at February 18, 2014 12:22 PM (14um2)

Your a 1000 times better than the MSM ace.

Can't always be right.

Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2014 12:22 PM (fsLdt)

49 And don't forget to throw in a lone about being entitled to your opinion and respecting others beliefs.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 18, 2014 12:23 PM (af4qn)

50 Silly wingnutz. Only *I* can do polling right.

Posted by: Nate Silver at February 18, 2014 12:23 PM (7ObY1)

51 So Everything that guy just said is Bullshit ? Pure authentic frontier gibberish.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2014 12:23 PM (E7Zh9)

Look at it from the editors perspective.

We need Page views and eyeballs!!!

Get the quarterly stats up!

Long term, who cares? There will be no long term if you do not succeed today. If Slate can page troll, so can we!

Posted by: rd at February 18, 2014 12:24 PM (D+lxs)

53 Still a bunch of dupes, idiots, & Maroons....

Posted by: backhoe at February 18, 2014 12:24 PM (ULH4o)

You could totes make it up to us by getting rid of that Stitcher radio thing.

Sil vous plais.

Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2014 12:24 PM (fsLdt)

55 50% of people are below average intelligence.

Posted by: --- at February 18, 2014 12:24 PM (MMC8r)

56 Never ever stop in the middle of a hoe-down.

Posted by: Homer Simpson at February 18, 2014 12:24 PM (ZKzrr)

57 The new headline should be: Obama voters still idiots.

Posted by: Votermom at February 18, 2014 12:24 PM (GSIDW)

58 Do what the big media groups do, stealth edit. Don't retract . (Also academics do that too!) Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 18, 2014 04:17 PM (GaqMa) Hell, just say "you don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that." Ace waz hacked!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 18, 2014 12:25 PM (E7Zh9)

59 I still stand behind Palin/Cruz of course now before you H8rs open your pie holes, know this........... yeah, I can't pick sports teams for crap but I can pick women Go with Da CUDA!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 18, 2014 12:26 PM (At8tV)

60 Next, you're gonna tell us that part about Romney giving a gay haircut to a dog and then cancer also isn't true.

Posted by: L, elle at February 18, 2014 12:26 PM (0xqKe)

61 We took it out of context.

Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2014 12:26 PM (fsLdt)

62 71% believe 71% of all polls are wrong.

Posted by: Mishmash at February 18, 2014 12:26 PM (vzfrq)

63 90% of statistics are half the problem.

Posted by: --- at February 18, 2014 12:26 PM (MMC8r)

64 Aaand, nood

Posted by: L, elle at February 18, 2014 12:27 PM (0xqKe)

65 42 I still want to slap the Obama voters all over again Posted by: Votermom

I want to hang, draw, and quarter them- and put their heads on pikes at the foot of the Causeway.

Preznint Toonces told everyone what he would do- before the first "historic" election.

Now some have wised up? Fools....

Posted by: backhoe at February 18, 2014 12:27 PM (ULH4o)

66 Update---- Retraction retracted---- 71% of Obama voters actually voted. please note the correction thank you.

Posted by: seamrog at February 18, 2014 12:27 PM (r1ETs)

67 Did liberals retract their position when they found out man made global warming was bullshit? Grow a pair and double down. Once something is published, it's a fact. Religions have sprung from less.

Posted by: jwest at February 18, 2014 12:28 PM (u2a4R)

1% is all the problem!

Posted by: random retard at February 18, 2014 12:28 PM (fsLdt)

69 Posted by: jwest at February 18, 2014 04:28 PM (u2a4R)

Remember "fake but accurate?"

Posted by: Iasonas at February 18, 2014 12:29 PM (RUraj)

"The Ace of Spades editorial staff regrets that its readers may have been empuzzled by the factual misallocation of the aforementioned article. In the interest of exactitude, we herebye amend our words in order to deliver the rich layers of cromulence that our readers are both accustomed to and deserve."

Posted by: Warden at February 18, 2014 12:30 PM (HzhBE)

71 Will the retraction get the same traction and the attraction of the fraction ?

Posted by: seamrog at February 18, 2014 12:30 PM (r1ETs)

72 Eh, everybody gets burned by a poll or two every once in a while.

Posted by: CAC at February 18, 2014 12:30 PM (VtBK8)

73 "fake but accurate" It cost more than the original.

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 18, 2014 12:30 PM (MhA4j)

74 That's weird. Brian Fantana is usually a pretty accurate newsman.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 18, 2014 12:31 PM (+lsX1)

75 wow, our electorate is more fucked up than I thought. Elephant in the room? Is it because he's black or that he has 666 inscribed into his skull somewhere?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 18, 2014 12:32 PM (HVff2)

76 Obviously: R E T R A C T E D What's said is said.

Posted by: Jareth the Goblin King at February 18, 2014 12:33 PM (MhA4j)

77 Only one of my cats ate the new cat food I bought yesterday. So 50% of cats hate it and I'm 90% regretting buying it at all. On the other hand I bought it at the nearby country market instead of the grocery store that is many many miles away so I'm 100% sure I'll buy it again.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 18, 2014 12:34 PM (vdMUZ)

78 Will the retraction get the same traction and the attraction of the fraction ? Posted by: seamrog at February 18, 2014 04:30 PM (r1ETs) It will certainly see some action, but only as an abstraction to the distraction of the faction involved.

Posted by: CAC at February 18, 2014 12:34 PM (VtBK8)

79 OK, so now if I'm reading this correctly, out of 396 people who voted for Obama, only 25 regret it. Or something.

Whatever, all I know is that anyone who voted for that fool even once is a fucking moron. And not in a good way. And that includes my dead grandparents.

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 18, 2014 12:36 PM (GrtrJ)

80 Did the Russians give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No! I say 71% of Obama voters had someone else vote for them.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 18, 2014 12:37 PM (vdMUZ)

81 71% Regret [something] Obama It's only forever Not long at all. Lost and lonely No one can blame you For walking away.

Posted by: Labyrinth at February 18, 2014 12:39 PM (MhA4j)

82 78 CAC Yet, inaction could cause some satisfaction, but redaction would be a misaction.

Posted by: seamrog at February 18, 2014 12:41 PM (r1ETs)

83 75 wow, our electorate is more fucked up than I thought.

Elephant in the room? Is it because he's black or that he has 666 inscribed into his skull somewhere? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Actually it's that weird scar that used to be visible on the right rear quadrant of his skull. Val Jar inserted data discs there to program the JEF....

Posted by: backhoe at February 18, 2014 12:41 PM (ULH4o)

84 For some reason this thread just made me laugh out loud.

Posted by: toby928© at February 18, 2014 12:43 PM (QupBk)

85 Yet, inaction could cause some satisfaction, but redaction would be a misaction. Posted by: seamrog at February 18, 2014 04:41 PM (r1ETs) There will be an extraction of the truth, hopefully before...the...um...crust underneath...undergoes...liquefaction?

Posted by: CAC at February 18, 2014 12:44 PM (VtBK8)

86 85 CAC You win, I'd just be making up words if I went on.

Posted by: seamrog at February 18, 2014 12:46 PM (r1ETs)

87 85 CAC And yes, I did look up liquefaction, before conceding.

Posted by: seamrog at February 18, 2014 12:49 PM (r1ETs)

88 So now we know what a tiny fraction of Obama voters have reasoning capabilities. That's some evolutionary progress.

Posted by: Decaf at February 18, 2014 12:54 PM (Bwva0)

89 Damn. First Trace Adkins cancels his show in San Antonio and now I miss a retraction from Ace. Something is just sucking ALL the fun out of this day.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 18, 2014 12:58 PM (Why2y)

90 80. teh heh Remembering Stalingrad, you've got to give credit where due. The Bitter Clingers decisively beat the interventionist invaders. What percent of the population was killed? about.com and wiki Sixth Army and Fourth Panzer, Hitler divided Army Group South (Russian invasionary force) into Army Group A (capture oil fields) and Group B (take Stalingrad). And Stalin ordered the civilians to remain and fight for Stalingrad and the Motherland. Aftermath of Stalingrad Of the 91,000 German POWs taken at Stalingrad, 27,000 died within weeks and only 5-6,000 returned to Germany by 1955. The remainder of the POWs died in Soviet captivity. [Well over 71% regretted voting for Hitler.] Soviet losses in the Stalingrad area during the battle numbered around 478,741 killed and 650,878 wounded. In addition, as many as 40,000 civilians were killed. Axis losses are estimated at 650,000-750,000 killed and wounded as well as 91,000 captured. Of those captured, fewer than 6,000 survived to return to Germany. The turning point of the war on the Eastern Front, the weeks after Stalingrad saw the Red Army launch eight winter offensives across the Don River basin. These helped further compel Army Group A to withdraw from the Caucasus and ended the threat to the oil fields. According to archival figures, the Red Army suffered a total of 1,129,619 total casualties;[81] 478,741 personnel killed or missing and 650,878 wounded. These numbers are for the whole Don region; in the city itself 750,000 were killed, captured, or wounded. In all, the battle resulted in an estimated total of 2 million Axis and Soviet casualties.

Posted by: Labyrinth at February 18, 2014 12:58 PM (MhA4j)

91 You can't unring a bell.... Posted by: backhoe at February 18, 2014 04:47 PM (ULH4o) So I danced like a butterfly.

Posted by: Mohammad Ali at February 18, 2014 01:01 PM (MhA4j)

92 Math is hard! LIM Low Information Media Copyrighted, bitches.

Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at February 18, 2014 01:02 PM (aA2hG)

93 "Wait a minute", says one of your resident number-crunching badasses... What I get from the data presented is that about 400 people in the survey responded, and said they voted for Obama, almost all of them answered the question of whether they would vote for him again, with 79% saying "Yes", and 10% saying "No", but... When it came to being asked if they regretted their vote, LESS THAN 10% ANSWERED. 35 out of about 400. 71% OUT OF THE ONES WILLING TO ANSWER, said that they regretted it. The article says it's "unclear", but it says right in the graphic that it asked the Obama voters, which means the 400. The author says they must have asked only the 10%, but that would be 40 people, not 35, anyway. So he's admittedly making an assumption that is not consistent with what the poll actually says. One would think that the 79% would have no compunction against saying if they regretted voting for Obama, and say "No", but it sounds like they were mostly pissed off at having even been asked the question. The author also seems mystified at how somebody would say "I voted based on what I knew at the time", or "I didn't like the other guy", (thereby not having "regret") even though they said they wouldn't vote for him again. 'Cause logic is hard. So I'd say the real conclusion is that 90%+ of 2012 Obama voters DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION of "Do you regret it?", EVEN if they say they'd do it again.

Posted by: Optimizer at February 18, 2014 02:42 PM (saDM3)

94 One more racist lie about our beloved President has been demolished!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 18, 2014 03:15 PM (vez/B)

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