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March 21, 2014

Washington Post Writers Respond to Powerline's Criticism
— Ace

Here is what they claim. All emphases in the below quotes are added by me.

First, regarding the political leaning of the group that brought this story to our attention, our article makes clear its left-wing origins, the controversial nature of its earlier claims, and its political agenda.

Oh? They make it clear that the group was left-wing?

Here's what the original article says about the group:

The Koch Industries subsidiary holds leases on 1.1 million acres -- an area nearly the size of Delaware -- in the oil sands region of Alberta, Canada, according to an activist group that studied Alberta provincial records.

An "activist" group -- no political leaning specified. Note, of course, that the media tends to claim leftwing groups are nonpartisan subject-matter-area advocacy groups, with no political leaning, whereas right-leaning groups are always noted as partisan.

Like right here, in the original article:

The biggest lease holder in the northern Alberta oil sands is a subsidiary of Koch Industries, the privately-owned cornerstone of the fortune of conservative Koch brothers Charles and David.

Why weren't they simply called "activist"? Further, why aren't they called "libertarian?" They self-identify as libertarian; in fact, everyone except these writers seems to identify them as libertarian.

But the left-wing group is merely termed "activist" and the Koch Brothers are incorrectly termed "conservative."

And then they claim they made the report's left-wing genesis "clear."

Where? Later on the article says that "environmental groups" and Harry Reid are attacking Keystone, but that's not linked to this "activist" group.

This is what I think the writers are relying on when they say the original article made it "clear" this group had a political agenda:

Â“IFGÂ’s intention is to demonstrate the Koch-Keystone connection,Â” says IFGÂ’s Victor Menotti.

That doesn't confess the group's political agenda. If there really is a Koch-Keystone connection, that would not be a matter of politics, but of simple factual reportage. One can come away from reading that thinking "These IFG people are just trying to get at the hidden truth" -- like an unbiased investigative reporter might, or like an apolitical "activist" group might.

This is hardly the writers making IFG's leftwing political agenda "clear" -- especially because these writers, given the chance to specifically note IFG's leftwing politics, instead resorted to the euphemism "activist."

By the way, I see nothing in the original article stating that the "activist" group's report is "controversial" in any way, though the writers now claim the original article made it "clear" that the report was "controversial" (meaning, here, I think: contested).

The Washington Post writers seem to accept almost all of it as non-controversial and non-contested.

They did note one point of contestation:

Second, regarding whether Koch would benefit from the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, we make clear that many of KochÂ’s leases pre-date the pipeline plan, that Koch has not bid for space in the pipeline, and that Koch would not be a customer.

In fact, the original article does say some of this:

The link between Koch and Keystone XL is, however, indirect at best. KochÂ’s oil production in northern Alberta is Â“negligible,Â” according to industry sources and quarterly publications of the provincial government. Moreover, Koch has not reserved any space in the Keystone XL pipeline, a process that usually takes place before a pipeline is built. The pipeline also does not run anywhere near KochÂ’s refining facilities. And TransCanada, owner of the Keystone routes, says Koch is not expected to be one of the pipelineÂ’s customers.

But then watch how they take that all away to re-assert the "activist" group's claims:

Still, the activist group that is publicizing the figures about Koch holdings in the oil sands Â– the International Forum on Globalization Â– is arguing that Koch will benefit indirectly.

Let me note that this same group has estimated a $120 billion loss to the Koch's economic forecasts over the long term (50 years). It takes an awful lot of "indirect benefits" to make up for $120 billion.

But the Washington Post writers suggest that the "activist" group's report still might be true anyway. Maybe those Koch's will reap >$120 billion in "indirect benefits," I guess.

Not to mention the article says this early on, telegraphing its belief in the "Koch-Keystone" connection by hinting at suspect motives and hidden agendas on the part of the Koch brothers:

What is Koch Industries doing there? The company wouldn't comment on its holdings or strategy, but it appears to be a long-term investment that could produce tens of thousands of barrels of the region's thick brand of crude oil in the next three years and perhaps hundreds of thousands of barrels a few years after that.

Sort of conspiratorial, isn't it? What is Koch Industries doing there?

Um, gee, what is an energy company doing leasing property in energy-extraction areas?

Next, they claim their original statement that the Koch's are the largest leaseholder in the province is close enough:

Third, if KochÂ’s lease holdings are 1.1 million acres, that would make it one of the regionÂ’s largest, rivaled only by Shell (1 million net acres through an Athabasca joint venture and perhaps 1.3 million net acres altogether), Cenovus Energy (1.5 million net acres), and perhaps Canadian Natural Resources (717,000 net undeveloped acres plus an undetermined number of developed acres). Shell declined to release its total acreage figures. If Koch's lease holdings are Â“closer to two million,Â” as has been said by industry sources we consider highly authoritative, then Koch is indeed the largest lease holder in the province.

Now Koch's holdings of 1.1 million acres are "one of the region's largest," not the largest, as previously claimed, and furthermore, the article resorts to claiming that who knows, maybe they've got 2 million acres.

So now the Post is going back to the earlier claim?

Note what the original article claimed:

The Post confirmed the groupÂ’s findings with Alberta Energy, the provincial governmentÂ’s ministry of energy. Separately, industry sources familiar with oil sands leases said KochÂ’s lease holdings could be closer to two million acres. The companies with the next biggest net acreage positions in oil sands leases are Conoco Phillips and Shell, both close behind.

The original article notes that even the "activist" group has retreated from the 2 million figure, but now the 2 million is conveniently back in play when these writers need it to be?

Last October, IFG said that Koch owned two million acres in the oil sands; now it says the true figure Â– based on the Alberta provincial governmentÂ’s mineral lease records that it links to -- is smaller but still an impressive, industry-leading 1.1 million acres.

What exactly are they now claiming is "confirmed"? They claimed to have confirmed this earlier; they are implicitly retreating from that. They first stated that, as a confirmed factual matter, the Koch brothers were the largest leaseholders in the province; now they say they could be the largest leaseholders, if unconfirmed but claimed estimates (by outside parties) are true.

Here's how the defense ends:

The Powerline article itself, and its tone, is strong evidence that issues surrounding the Koch brothersÂ’ political and business interests will stir and inflame public debate in this election year. ThatÂ’s why we wrote the piece.

Oh, I see. You just meant to explore "the issues" surrounding "the Koch brothers' political and business interests."

Which is a recitation of the "activist" group's central thesis: That the Koch brothers' political interests are deeply intertwined with their business interests.

The claim that they were writing merely to illustrate that the leftwing gets all spazzy when you bring up the Koch brothers is risible.

You didn't already see "strong evidence' of this in the left-wing -- I mean, "activist" -- group's report, or in Harry Reid's daily Two Minute Hates against the Koch Brothers?

You didn't attempt to claim any of these facts to be independently true, but only that the Koch Brothers would continue to be controversial on the left?

If so, why didn't you call this "activist" group by its accurate descriptor, "leftwing?"

And why is it that only Powerline's tone and attitude suggests political agenda here, rather than the "activist" group's?

Or, frankly, your own tone and attitude?

Posted by: Ace at 01:14 PM | Comments (268)
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1 You forgot to close a tag and you borked the blog

Posted by: Zakn at March 21, 2014 01:15 PM (7F9i5)

2 Activists lean left, Ace leans right.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at March 21, 2014 01:15 PM (yE8uc)

3 So the redoubtable Mr. Beale also works for this activist group??

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 01:16 PM (rh481)

4 Italics! Italics everywhere!

Posted by: sauropod at March 21, 2014 01:16 PM (G/vW6)

5 Wow, this site has just developed quite the obvious right-leaning slant. Does Ace get barrel time too?

Posted by: LGW at March 21, 2014 01:16 PM (+BmfA)

6 The slant is on. The article as well.

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at March 21, 2014 01:17 PM (Lqb+9)

7 Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 21, 2014 01:17 PM (8ZskC)

8 Which Koch brother turned the italics on?

Posted by: gwelf at March 21, 2014 01:17 PM (+7Usq)

9 Slanted Coverage Abounds!

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 01:17 PM (JNU6r)

10 So I guess today is "Beware the Italics of March"??

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 01:18 PM (rh481)

11 Cool You got it

Posted by: Zakn at March 21, 2014 01:18 PM (7F9i5)

12 Shorter Powerline (and Ace): They lie. And 'you know what? They do.

Posted by: Y-not at March 21, 2014 01:18 PM (zDsvJ)

13
ace,

Start with the 1st Paragraph.

We would like to make a few brief points in reply to an article in Powerline regarding our article about the extensive lease holdings of Koch Industries subsidiaries in the oil sands region of Alberta, Canada.

WaPo admits it's an article, which means it should be factual, as opposed to an opinion piece.

Shorter response: Suck it Powerline. We didn't let the mask slip, we pulled it off.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 21, 2014 01:20 PM (DQZLr)

14 The Koch's are very much libertarian but the left hasn't quite gotten the hang of demonizing that faction yet.Better to call them conservatives.

Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 01:20 PM (zqvg6)

15 How about you name the activist group so we can judge for ourselves their motives? Our is it the policy of the WaPo to make accusations about conservatives based on anonymous sources?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 01:20 PM (g1DWB)

16 Sort of conspiratorial, isn't it? What is Koch Industries doing there?

Developing scientific ways to force teh wimmenz to bear children?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 21, 2014 01:21 PM (8ZskC)

17 And then they claim they made the report's left-wing genesis "clear." Where?

It's right there in their style guide. Activist is a positive, affirming description that can interchangeably be used for left-wing. What, don't you speak their language?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 21, 2014 01:22 PM (IN7k+)

18 Why bother reading the article, but i bet they don't mention that a majority of oil leases never get developed. just saying

Posted by: elrobalo at March 21, 2014 01:23 PM (wH5Tk)

19 Assholes tend to spew shit, Ace.....

Posted by: © Sponge at March 21, 2014 01:23 PM (xmcEQ)

20 The Cock Brothers want to ban Gay porn!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:23 PM (9W+0f)

21 I found the Washington Post article very enlightening.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at March 21, 2014 01:23 PM (8ZskC)

22 The only thing you get from wrestling a pig is dirty.

Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 01:24 PM (xWW96)

23 Oh, BURN!!!!!!!

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 01:24 PM (6H6o8)

24 Demagogues get off on embarrassing their "marks." Whenever Leftist activists mention the Kokk Brothers, they're sporting a boner.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:25 PM (9W+0f)

25 An "activist" group? Sounds like NBC Nightly News and the: "Some say..." "Critics charge..."

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2014 01:25 PM (oFCZn)

26 The only thing you get from wrestling a pig is dirty. And excersize.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 01:25 PM (CRyse)

27 It isn't even efficient agitprop. It's just embarrassing.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:26 PM (9W+0f)

28 Whenever Leftist activists mention the Kokk Brothers, they're sporting a boner. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 05:25 PM (9W+0f) I notice how they ignore the amount of money George Soros pumps into lefty causes. Or unions too for that matter. Funny that.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 21, 2014 01:26 PM (yz6yg)

29 Noam Chomsky almost certainly thinks that anyone who buys this crap is an imbecile.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:26 PM (9W+0f)

30 oh ... oh ... oh Shut Up! they argued ...

Posted by: Adriane... at March 21, 2014 01:26 PM (qoKTg)

31 It's a waste of time wrestling with a pig.

All you get is dirty and the pig likes it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 01:27 PM (LSDdO)

32 It's just embarrassing.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:27 PM (9W+0f)

33 26 The only thing you get from wrestling a pig is dirty.

And excersize.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 05:25 PM (CRyse)

When I wrestle pigs, I bite them too. So while I get dirty, I also get a mouthful of pork.

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 01:27 PM (6H6o8)

34 Noam Chomsky? Is that old rat boner still polluting the air?

Posted by: maddogg at March 21, 2014 01:27 PM (xWW96)

35 No intelligent Leftist believes this Koch crap. It's just prole feed.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:28 PM (9W+0f)

36 When I wrestle pigs, I bite them too. So while I get dirty, I also get a mouthful of pork. Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 05:27 PM (6H6o Is that a euphemism?

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 21, 2014 01:28 PM (yz6yg)

37 The object is to discourage rich people from donating to conservative / libertarian causes." Probably is working too.

Posted by: steevy at March 21, 2014 01:28 PM (zqvg6)

38 Bunch of journalists get all butt hurt because a " conservative" blog has got their number and exposed them . Too bad. The very fact that they responded as they did exposes them even further. The Powerline guys are probably fist bumping as we type.

Posted by: Tuna at March 21, 2014 01:28 PM (M/TDA)

39 The Koch Brothers of the world are spending THEIR money. The Obamas of the world are spending OUR money.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 01:29 PM (JNU6r)

40 Facts? Never heard of them.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at March 21, 2014 01:29 PM (0FSuD)

41 Any Leftist who starts talking about the Koch Brothers immediately abdicates any claim to any intellectual potency.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:29 PM (9W+0f)

42 In before Toby!

Posted by: the scorpion at March 21, 2014 01:29 PM (QupBk)

43 What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: not in the running at March 21, 2014 01:30 PM (3T37a)

44 Move on. Nothing to see here.

Posted by: Jay Carney at March 21, 2014 01:30 PM (R5UOB)

45 Of course, hardly anyone will read the rebuttal article. They will just scan the original piece and think, yeah, these Koch bastards!

The writers know that.

Posted by: pj at March 21, 2014 01:30 PM (ZWaLo)

46 Even the editors of Pravda would be ashamed of this Koch crap.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:31 PM (9W+0f)

47 When I wrestle pigs, I bite them too. So while I get dirty, I also get a mouthful of pork. Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 05:27 PM (6H6o Is that a euphemism? Is now.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 01:31 PM (CRyse)

48 BREAKING NEWS! 19 Assholes tend to spew shit, Ace..... (Thread winner, by the way)

Posted by: CNN Editors at March 21, 2014 01:31 PM (0FSuD)

49
"by Steven Mufson and Juliet Eilperin"

Juliet Eilperin ‏@eilperin Mar 20
Who's the biggest land owner in Canada's oil sands, of #KXL fame? The Koch brothers. My exclusive w/ @StevenMufson: http://wapo.st/PU6RdP

Steven Mufson ‏@StevenMufson Mar 20
Some readers have said Koch is largest land owner in Alberta oil sands. No. It is largest lease holder. The Crown is largest land owner.

How about you two go -- fact check each other for a while, then get back to us?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 21, 2014 01:32 PM (kdS6q)

50 In before ... dammit. And why isn't this leftist group controversial? No one out there dishing dirt on them? Did they even look?

Posted by: toby928© at March 21, 2014 01:32 PM (QupBk)

51 Some people are saying that the Washington Post is link baiting it's readers however a local activist group claims that 76.2% of all Washington Post stories are true and well researched.

Honest. Just ask them. They'll tell you. Tell you true. They have no reason to lie.

What would they gain by lying?

It's not as if they're broke or anything.

Or that the News Room looks like Hiroshima the day after August 6th.

signed Jayson Blair

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 01:32 PM (LSDdO)

52 It's clearly imbecilic. Objectively so. Not just within the context of the predominant Conservative memoplex.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:32 PM (9W+0f)

53 Sadly what has been overlooked in this clusterfuck of a witchhunt is the mistress of misfortune.

youtube.com/watch?v=zh7sqDlxBaE

Posted by: Fritz at March 21, 2014 01:32 PM (PnMCP)

54 But Leftists have no shame.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:32 PM (9W+0f)

55 based on anonymous sources?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 21, 2014 05:20 PM (g1DWB)

WaPo; they are Activists activists Jack.

next query may be sent to our comment section where it will be swiftly deleted.

thank You

Posted by: willow at March 21, 2014 01:32 PM (nqBYe)

56 Ace definitely has legal training. Only lawyers EVER use the plural of emphasis!!! Have a great weekend morans!

Posted by: prescient11 at March 21, 2014 01:32 PM (tVTLU)

57 Is now. Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 05:31 PM (CRyse) I ask because "pork sword" is a euphemism I picked up from some Brits in Iraq. No. NOT through any type or personal experience thankyouverymuch.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 21, 2014 01:32 PM (yz6yg)

58 It is extremely unlikely that any of the intelligent ones actually believe this crap. Not because they're "too intelligent to believe it" but because it's so stupid only a retard could believe it.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:33 PM (9W+0f)

59 signed Jayson Blair Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 21, 2014 05:32 PM (LSDdO) Leave me out of this, I was a lackey at the NY Slime.

Posted by: Jayson Blair at March 21, 2014 01:33 PM (0FSuD)

60 anyway the Hacktivists are
The International Forum on Globalization (IFG) is a San Francisco-based educational alliance of sixty activists, scholars, economists, researchers and writers. It was established in response to increasing economic globalization, to "promote equitable, democratic, and ecologically sustainable economies

Posted by: willow at March 21, 2014 01:34 PM (nqBYe)

61 If you would have asked the average leftist a few years ago Who the Koch brothers were, 99% of them wouldn't have had a freaking clue who they were. Now they are the Pretty Boy Floyd of politics. All of their caricatures of anyone politically different all tied up in one neat package. Think of it this way. The left has nobody else to blame. Boosh is warn out Palin is old news. There's no eeevil conservative boogeyman right now. Sure they still throw Boosh around here and there. But they need a boogeyman, it's what the intellectually lazy like LIV's do.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2014 01:34 PM (/rlXg)

62 And the Vanguard of the Proletariat isn't really tarded. At least not as tarded as it pretends to be.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:34 PM (9W+0f)

63 21. There was a hilarious mythbusters episode where those city rubes busted the 'myth' of catching a greased pig and were unable to bust the myth of herding cats. I LMFAO doubly at them for not knowing that greased pig contests were a real thing and yes, someone would catch the pig and win the prize. Pretty funny watching the old dudes trying to herd cats too.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 21, 2014 01:35 PM (dkExz)

64 We knew you right-wing nut jobs would freak out when we wrote a hit piece. Umm, we meant to do that.

Posted by: WaPo at March 21, 2014 01:35 PM (vBhbc)

65 The Powerline article itself, and its tone, is strong evidence that issues surrounding the Koch brothersÂ’ political and business interests will stir and inflame public debate in this election year. ThatÂ’s why we wrote the piece. _______________________ Translation: What we wrote is not newsworthy. We wrote it to stir and inflame our readership.

Posted by: Furious George at March 21, 2014 01:35 PM (yFb77)

66 And throughout all of this leftist shitslinging, not one word of Dear Leader's old friend Warren Buffet, and what interests he holds in this region.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 01:35 PM (B8B+F)

67 No. NOT through any type or personal experience thankyouverymuch.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 21, 2014 05:32 PM (yz6yg)

Methinks thou dost protest too much...

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 01:36 PM (6H6o8)

68 But, Vanguard Leftists basically love taking a shit in people's mouths.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:36 PM (9W+0f)

69 ncreasingly few, stupendously wealthy plutocrats have lately made enormous strides toward dominating global governance, finance and national democracies, while actively undermining traditional democratic expressions, such as collective bargaining rights, clean air protections, and services for social safety nets. The wealth of these individuals is so great that we begin to see a kind of global Â“neo-feudalismÂ” evolving, where they themselves become the pivotal arbiters

Posted by: willow at March 21, 2014 01:36 PM (nqBYe)

70 Koch Porn. Like Scheisse Porn but even more fucked up.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:36 PM (9W+0f)

71 Churnalism.

It's what's for breakfast, lunch, dinner, 3pm stomach growling, tea, post-squash martini, 9pm Game of Thrones feast, and the 2am 'gaddamn, i need a cheeseburger' meal.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 21, 2014 01:36 PM (twp4I)

72 Methinks thou dost protest too much... Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 05:36 PM (6H6o This from the woman who likes a mouthful of pork. Jus' sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 21, 2014 01:37 PM (yz6yg)

73 It was established in response to increasing
economic globalization, to "promote equitable, democratic, and
ecologically sustainable economies

Posted by: willow at March 21, 2014 05:34 PM (nqBYe)

-----------------------------------------------

Agenda 21.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 01:37 PM (B8B+F)

74 Every moron should cheer for Wichita State. Their coach said the Koch brothers were the most amazing people he knew. Go Shockers!

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 21, 2014 01:38 PM (0FSuD)

75 You know we have reached the Zenith of Stupidity when our leaders have declared war on the Righteous and the populace is too ignorant to realize the ramifications.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at March 21, 2014 01:38 PM (WYUAi)

76 anyway the Hacktivists are The International Forum on Globalization (IFG) is a San Francisco-based educational alliance of sixty activists, scholars, economists, researchers and writers. It was established in response to increasing economic globalization, to "promote equitable, democratic, and
ecologically sustainable economies

Hmm. They sound like a very reasonable group of concerned men and women.

Posted by: Washington Post at March 21, 2014 01:38 PM (8ZskC)

77 But, the relationship between Vanguard Leftists and the rest of the Movement is a fundamentally homosexual one. Pitchers and catchers.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:38 PM (9W+0f)

78 This shit is like, like.....Micro Aggression!

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 21, 2014 01:38 PM (0FSuD)

79 And the pitchers love to pitch. And the catchers love to catch.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:38 PM (9W+0f)

80 Oh by the by.. They can all BLOW ME.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at March 21, 2014 01:38 PM (WYUAi)

81 Nothing will change until liars feel the pain for lying.

Posted by: rd at March 21, 2014 01:38 PM (D+lxs)

82 There was a hilarious mythbusters episode where those city rubes busted the 'myth' of catching a greased pig and were unable to bust the myth of herding cats. I LMFAO doubly at them for not knowing that greased pig contests were a real thing and yes, someone would catch the pig and win the prize. Pretty funny watching the old dudes trying to herd cats too. Cow tipping is where it's at!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 01:39 PM (CRyse)

83 Cow tipping is where it's at!

If the service is good, I tip no matter how fat the waitress is.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 21, 2014 01:39 PM (8ZskC)

84 "Journalist" = con artist, to at least the 90% level. Many people are still in denial about that because it seems like something out of a comic book. Surely, it can't be that bad? Oh, yes, yes it can. Utterly corrupt industry. The freaking Mafia does more honest business than reporters do (mind you in both cases it's just a cover). Seriously, any honest reporters left should come up with a new name for themselves to avoid confusion (mind you the crooks would adopt it as cover instantly). The fact that they band together around the lies to such a degree (and in politics and in squishy science and academia and....) is the depressing part. This and voter fraud have probably *already* cost us the next election, and there's just not enough of a voice to get anything done about it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 21, 2014 01:40 PM (qyfb5)

85 The "Sage of Omaha" owns the BNSF Railway. Therefore, one must assume that he is greatly concerned about the tender ecological balance of the Nebraska sandhills and how the Keystone XL pipeline could wreck that balance for generations to come. And one must further assume that the Washington Post will then give Buffet a tongue bath for putting the good of the earth ahead of filthy profit. Bah.

Posted by: Furious George at March 21, 2014 01:40 PM (yFb77)

86 71Â Churnalism... Oh - I like that. I'm going to steal that one, weft.

Posted by: Another moron at March 21, 2014 01:41 PM (3T37a)

87 The MSM is shameless. There is nothing new here. When it is pointed out to the MSM in undeniable terms that they are highly biased they excrete slime, prevaricate, and then change the subject. Anyone who can listen to Biden, Reid, Pelosi, etc. and not laugh is too far gone to be rehabilitated as a citizen of a republic.

Posted by: angel with a sword at March 21, 2014 01:42 PM (hpgw1)

88 As an aside, the activist construct is a fundamentally Marxist one. A bourgeois society doesn't need activists. And therefore has none. Merely a citizenry of politically equal human beings.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:42 PM (9W+0f)

89 Oh - I like that. I'm going to steal that one, weft.

Posted by: Another moron

Not mine. I just like it as well.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 21, 2014 01:42 PM (twp4I)

90 Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot, $8,350-per-night suite inconveniencing 'pretty much everyone' Â– and the first lady's mother is 'barking at the staff' No shock there...

Posted by: Ronnie Biggs at March 21, 2014 01:43 PM (r7mtu)

91 31 It's a waste of time wrestling with a pig. All you get is dirty and the pig likes it. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That Wellllllllllllll, it depends on if you're wrestling with a really fat pig like Rosanne or one that looks better but has fucked up politics and a daddy named McRino or my last GF who had killer looks all around except that she weighed in at 210 lbs. Personally, the first two are right out, come to think of it so is the last one but that's just like the Wapo, they both lie, so fuck 'em.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at March 21, 2014 01:43 PM (baiNQ)

92 This from the woman who likes a mouthful of pork.

Jus' sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 21, 2014 05:37 PM (yz6yg)

Of COURSE I do. I'm not some shrill, feminazi vegan.

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 01:43 PM (6H6o8)

93 If they're going to respond ask them how Obama's dick tastes.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 01:44 PM (DL2i+)

94 and the first lady's mother is 'barking at the staff' Wookie mating call....

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 01:44 PM (CRyse)

95 They have no shame and will do anything to consciously absorb the message of this post. They are nothing if the wrong type of person holds up a mirror to their face.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at March 21, 2014 01:44 PM (X/+QT)

96 "The Pen is mightier than the pork Sword." Shit Cardinal Richelieu said in Act II

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 01:45 PM (JNU6r)

97 Wow, shouldn't the obama brats dress a little more conservatively in foreign countries? http://goo.gl/zRQzW5

Posted by: Pug Train at March 21, 2014 01:45 PM (r7mtu)

98 Activists and activism are bad for Democracy. Democracy. Not "People's Democracy," with a Vanguard consisting of demagogues and journolists and activists and the creme a la creme of the Party.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:46 PM (9W+0f)

99 Of COURSE I do. I'm not some shrill, feminazi vegan. Posted by: kathysaysso at March 21, 2014 05:43 PM (6H6o I'll be right over.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 21, 2014 01:46 PM (yz6yg)

100 One word: racist.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 21, 2014 01:46 PM (zT0DN)

101 Just driving by, and not privy to prior comments, but... Sounds like they rewrote part of the article and forgot to change prior writing later in the text that contradicts the "walkback". Not that they probably mind trying to have their cake and eat it too. It would be fun to debate these bastards in a pubic forum, with Power Point at the ready.

Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning... at March 21, 2014 01:47 PM (jTKU5)

102 And embarrassing agitprop.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:47 PM (9W+0f)

103 but it appears to be a long-term investment that could produce tens of thousands of barrels of the region's thick brand of crude oil in the next three years and perhaps hundreds of thousands of barrels a few years after that.

Why yes, I can see that this article is just dripping with facts. I could perhaps say that their horseshit smells just like bullshit, but I try and avoid drawing conclusions without some actual smell tests.

They could perhaps be planning on selling their leases for a profit in an oil poor future, too. Or they could perhaps be planning to use space lasers to refine the tar sands in situ.

Just thought I'd throw some more factual stuff to help the WaPo out.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 21, 2014 01:47 PM (cHZB7)

104 Â– and the first lady's mother is 'barking at the staff'

Still my commenting fingers, O Lord.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 21, 2014 01:47 PM (8ZskC)

105
The only way I could ever work for an ethically corrupt and politically biased organization like the Washington Post is if they paid me. A lot.

Libertarianism FTW!

Posted by: Eugene "Just Plain" Volokh

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 21, 2014 01:48 PM (kdS6q)

106 Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage in 3400-square-foot, $8,350-per-night suite inconveniencing 'pretty much everyone' � and the first lady's mother is 'barking at the staff You been heah four owas. You go now!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 01:48 PM (CRyse)

107 But, the New Leftist Man loves this crap. It gives him a sense of belonging. Of being surrounded by other New Leftist Men who are just as equal/imbecilic.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:48 PM (9W+0f)

108 When Bezos's drone delivery failed he decided to switch to parakeets. Hence buying the WaPo.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 21, 2014 01:48 PM (DL2i+)

109 97 Wow, shouldn't the obama brats dress a little more conservatively in foreign countries? http://goo.gl/zRQzW5 Posted by: Pug Train Man, the comments at that link are cruel to the point of actually being true.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at March 21, 2014 01:49 PM (baiNQ)

110 Beijing hotel workers already 'fed up' with Obama entourage... They must be out of crunchy figs.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 01:49 PM (JNU6r)

111 Yes I eagerly await the WAPO pieces on Soros and Buffet.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 21, 2014 01:49 PM (/rlXg)

112

WAPO - "If you object to our half-baked hackery, it just proves we are right, because we know in an unbiased way that you are wrong."

Could it be that they think "circulation" means circular reasoning? It would explain their readership figures circling the drain.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 21, 2014 01:49 PM (JYBAr)

113 The New Leftist Man, having thoroughly embraced a subjective, emotive, and anticerebral conception of existence has no sense of the ridiculous.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:50 PM (9W+0f)

114

No intelligent Leftist.....posted by MUMR

I see an oxymoron.

Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 01:50 PM (G+Wff)

115 The pictures in the London Daily Mail have answered the question I have long wondered about: Where does Michelle get that happy-go-luck look from?

Posted by: Furious George at March 21, 2014 01:50 PM (yFb77)

116 He is an animal. His primary objective is moving with the herd. And hedonism.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:51 PM (9W+0f)

117 Resting Bitch-Face is in fact hereditary.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 01:51 PM (JNU6r)

118 111 Yes I eagerly await the WAPO pieces on Soros and Buffet.

Oh, there will be pieces on them, all right. Just not hit pieces. Those are reserved for people who are being "otherized."

The interesting thing is the degree to which things go from democratic party electoral strategy (we need a villain) to WAPO so quickly--and with absolutely no shame.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at March 21, 2014 01:52 PM (DHXV/)

119 Clearly these Koch fellas are doing something nefarious or they wouldn't be so controversial and written up in the Post.

Posted by: Mr Poo Poo at March 21, 2014 01:52 PM (slXFW)

120 115 The pictures in the London Daily Mail have answered the question I have long wondered about: Where does Michelle get that happy-go-luck look from? From the knowledge that she isn't footing the bill.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 01:52 PM (CRyse)

121 109 97 Wow, shouldn't the obama brats dress a little more conservatively in foreign countries? http://goo.gl/zRQzW5 Posted by: Pug Train Man, the comments at that link are cruel to the point of actually being true. Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at March 21, 2014 05:49 PM (baiNQ) Heh... I'm pretty sure the food they eat has the 'special sauce.' Never piss off people who prepare your food.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 01:54 PM (x3YFz)

122 Rationality necessitates individualism. But the social animal is incapable of individualism. And, in fact, incapable of rationality. Incapable of anything more complex than "revolutionary notions of conformity."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:54 PM (9W+0f)

123

Wow, shouldn't the obama brats dress a little more conservatively in foreign countries?

http://goo.gl/zRQzW5

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I wish we could talk China into just keeping that brace of bitches, you know, as a debt payment or something. Tell them they can do anything they want with them. Just take 'em.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 01:55 PM (B8B+F)

124 Which is to say herd behavior. Because Progress.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:55 PM (9W+0f)

125 I think the right is beginning to realize that it has to match the media capabilities of the left just to get back to having a fighting chance at a fair outcome. The Right needs to go into media just to level out the playing field.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 21, 2014 01:56 PM (bb5+k)

126 Heh... I'm pretty sure the food they eat has the 'special sauce.' Never piss off people who prepare your food. Anyone seen General Tso's cat lately?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 01:56 PM (CRyse)

127 and who dressed Mooch's spawn? Those girls look like they raided the lockers of a jr. high school ballet class.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 01:56 PM (x3YFz)

128

I am totally (totes....the younger generation) unbiased and I have completely examined this controversy and my unbiased opinion is that the media is full of shit.

Where is my Pultizer Prize?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at March 21, 2014 01:56 PM (4twGa)

129 Brace? No. Entourage? No. Coven?

Posted by: Furious George at March 21, 2014 01:56 PM (yFb77)

130 Mrs. Robinson, is your real first name Esther?

And what is with that red skirt, is that velour? Taupe top and shiny skirt plus black leggings? They are a fashion train wreck.

And is it me or does the hotel look a bit phallic?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 01:57 PM (rh481)

131 Progress toward what?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:57 PM (9W+0f)

132 Progress toward Idiocracy.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:57 PM (9W+0f)

133 The parents have no class or decorum, why would you expect the brats too?

Posted by: Infidel at March 21, 2014 01:57 PM (cojT9)

134 Whatever happened to that Scaife fellow they demonized during the Clintern era?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 21, 2014 01:58 PM (9Bdcz)

135 And is it me or does the hotel look a bit phallic?

This is China so a phallic hotel would be much smaller.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 21, 2014 01:58 PM (8ZskC)

136 Progress toward the feral state of man. Man as animal. As a weak, social animal anchored to the collective teat.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 01:59 PM (9W+0f)

137 Their daddy has decorum! Oh. I guess I didn't know what "decorum" meant. I thought it was a biology thing.

Posted by: Reggie Love at March 21, 2014 01:59 PM (yFb77)

138 Is it beer-thirty yet?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at March 21, 2014 01:59 PM (4twGa)

139 http://goo.gl/zRQzW5 ?

Geez! If they were white us down South would call them "white trash," How embarrassing....

Posted by: backhoe at March 21, 2014 02:00 PM (ULH4o)

140 Driven by nothing but emotion.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 02:00 PM (9W+0f)

141 It's always beer-thirty somewhere.

Posted by: Mr Poo Poo at March 21, 2014 02:00 PM (slXFW)

142 Breaking: Earthquake, magnitude 4.6, 107 kilometers southeast of San Felipe, Mexico - @usgs Man, where AREN'T they fracking these days?

Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning... at March 21, 2014 02:00 PM (jTKU5)

143 For you maybe. I still have another hour at the salt mine.

Posted by: Infidel at March 21, 2014 02:00 PM (cojT9)

144 Desiring nothing but emotion.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 02:00 PM (9W+0f)

145 oh, and since I'm being mean and shallow, I'll offer that the obama girls look like guys. The first pic in that link looks like Warf and family exiting the Enterprise. There was a pile of dog crap on the tarmac, but when they exited, it got up and left.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:01 PM (x3YFz)

146 Cicero, well played. Well played. Or its just a pylon. Or an obelisk.

I wonder how Michelle's calligraphy lessons went. I bet what they taught her to write was - 'We owe Beijing $3 trillion.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 02:02 PM (rh481)

147 145 oh, and since I'm being mean and shallow, I'll offer that the obama girls look like guys. ___________ And the Obama guys throw like girls.

Posted by: Furious George at March 21, 2014 02:02 PM (yFb77)

148 Geez! If they were white us down South would call them "white trash," ....in the ghettoooooo

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 02:03 PM (CRyse)

149 A base existence. Man without humanity. Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 21, 2014 02:03 PM (9W+0f)

150 oh, and since I'm being mean and shallow, I'll offer that the obama girls look like guys. Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 06:01 PM (x3YFz) I'm pretty much tired of being told how beautiful they all are when the evidence otherwise is in plain sight. Oh, sorry, I forgotÂ…..I denounce myself.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 21, 2014 02:04 PM (yz6yg)

151 Conservative and communist are distinct ideologies as we made clear in the original article. Therefore, based on the information we received, this paper affirms our characterization of Lee Harvey Oswald as a conservative firebrand.

Posted by: The Washington Post at March 21, 2014 02:04 PM (kUgpq)

152 And the Obama guys throw like girls. Posted by: Furious George at March 21, 2014 06:02 PM (yFb77) Oh, you mean the Man Who Throws Bricks? I'm white, short and I make up for it by being slow, but there is one black man on the planet that I know I can destroy in 1v1 basketball.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:05 PM (x3YFz)

153 That older daughter never seems to smile. She always looks petulant and unhappy.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 21, 2014 02:05 PM (Vg/fl)

154 I can't freaking get over WaPo's ending. "See, see! You proved it, that's why we do it, you made us do it!" I think I might be passing beyond Bizarro World into a hitherto unexplored place and I'm frightened.

Posted by: BossyBodine at March 21, 2014 02:05 PM (2LJqa)

155 The Obama girls, making Amy Carter look fashion savvy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 02:06 PM (rh481)

156 I'm pretty much tired of being told how beautiful they all are when the evidence otherwise is in plain sight. Oh, sorry, I forgotÂ…..I denounce myself. Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 21, 2014 06:04 PM (yz6yg) They should at least take them to the vet and have them shaved before going out in public.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:06 PM (x3YFz)

157

oh, and since I'm being mean and shallow, I'll offer that the obama girls look like guys.
Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 06:01 PM (x3YFz)

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What I heard was "boy" in that statement.

Rayciss!

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 02:06 PM (B8B+F)

158

I would think that by now someone would have told Michelle that when out in public she needs to smile and act interested. She always looks pissed off or bored.

Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 02:06 PM (G+Wff)

159 The Obama girls, making Amy Carter look fashion savvy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 06:06 PM (rh481)

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Ow! That's going to leave a mark.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 02:08 PM (B8B+F)

160 158 I would think that by now someone would have told Michelle that when out in public she needs to smile and act interested. She always looks pissed off or bored. Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 06:06 PM (G+Wff) When you're that ugly, pissed off and bored is the "good" look.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:08 PM (x3YFz)

161 "This war is lost!"

Posted by: Harrie Red at March 21, 2014 02:09 PM (8T2uO)

162 The Obama girls' father, making my views on nuclear war look nuanced and savvy.

Posted by: Amy Carter at March 21, 2014 02:09 PM (yFb77)

163 Boogey-man boogey-woman boogey-baby.

Posted by: Booji Boy at March 21, 2014 02:09 PM (XeVA7)

164 Must have villain, must have villain to unite dispirited base after ObamaCare cratered....

KOOOOOOOOCH!!!!!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - We will be cold-patching the parking lot at the Outrage Outlet soon! at March 21, 2014 02:11 PM (gmoEG)

165 I'm surprised Obama doesn't have grand-kids by now.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 02:11 PM (slXFW)

166 And just think, just under 3 more years of these turds.

Posted by: Infidel at March 21, 2014 02:11 PM (cojT9)

167 I have to lead with: No I'm not gay. Having said that, the first pic of Sasha makes me think that someplace there's a set of curtains missing a red velvet valance. I'll bet these fuckers steal every towel and bathrobe when they travel.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:11 PM (x3YFz)

168 153 That older daughter never seems to smile. She always looks petulant and unhappy. Posted by: grammie winger at March 21, 2014 06:05 PM (Vg/fl) I've seen pics of her smiling. I tend to give the kids some serious slack. Remember when you were that age? You'd rather be anywhere than hanging out with your parents and some serious thing that you could care less about. Having the Secret Service around all the time has to be a drag on a teenager's life.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2014 02:12 PM (oFCZn)

169 Marian Robinson is "barking" at the staff? So what? Her son-in-law at a dog once.

Posted by: Furious George at March 21, 2014 02:12 PM (yFb77)

170 Way OT, but I saw Cheri. Did you know the church across from GJHS is have a book sale to benefit the library? 20,000 books. Fill a grocery bag of books for $10.

Posted by: Infidel at March 21, 2014 02:13 PM (cojT9)

171 Hmmm, I wonder what the comments would look like if everyone around here's children were followed around and photographed by the press as a condition of your employment.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 21, 2014 02:13 PM (kUgpq)

172 Having said that, the first pic of Sasha makes me think that someplace there's a set of curtains missing a red velvet valance. I'll bet these fuckers steal every towel and bathrobe when they travel. And drapes, couch covers, ......

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 02:13 PM (CRyse)

173 And just think, just under 3 more years of these turds.

Posted by: Infidel at March 21, 2014 06:11 PM (cojT9)

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Yeah, but the two nuclear winters will make time seem to go fast.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 02:13 PM (B8B+F)

174 Stealing bathrobes from hotels is nothing....wait and see what President 5 putt and clan loot fromthe White House on the way out.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at March 21, 2014 02:14 PM (4twGa)

175 "Ate" a dog once. Cripes.

Posted by: Furious George at March 21, 2014 02:14 PM (yFb77)

176 171 Hmmm, I wonder what the comments would look like if everyone around here's children were followed around and photographed by the press as a condition of your employment. Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 21, 2014 06:13 PM (kUgpq) my daughter is an idiot. Knock yourself out.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:14 PM (x3YFz)

177 I'm happy to goof on Mooch since she has chosen to insert herself into left wing political activism but really.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 21, 2014 02:15 PM (kUgpq)

178

Yeah, but the two nuclear winters will make time seem to go fast.

Well yeah, there will be that as a distraction. I need to learn how to brew beer.

Posted by: Infidel at March 21, 2014 02:15 PM (cojT9)

179 Infidel @ 170 - awesome, this weekend?

Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 02:15 PM (G+Wff)

180 Hmmm, I wonder what the comments would look like if everyone around here's children were followed around and photographed by the press as a condition of your employment. Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 21, 2014 06:13 PM (kUgpq) Maybe their parents should have thought about that before they decided run the American economy into the shitter.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 21, 2014 02:16 PM (yz6yg)

181

My oldest daughter would probably now hold the world record for being photographed the most times with her middle finger extended.

That being said, I would give the kids a break.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at March 21, 2014 02:17 PM (4twGa)

182 That older daughter never seems to smile. She always looks petulant and unhappy.

I just bingled Malia Obama, clicked on images, and found plenty of pictures of her smiling. It probably depends on where you're looking at pictures. Any British press site that publishes Obama criticisms is going to find goofy/angry pictures of the Obamas. It's what they do.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 21, 2014 02:17 PM (P7Wsr)

183 Michele simply radiates her inner ugly. And her mother's obviously the same way.

Posted by: --- at March 21, 2014 02:17 PM (MMC8r)

184 Cheri @ 179 yes. And today until I think 7. I'm going to stop on the way home from work.

Posted by: Infidel at March 21, 2014 02:17 PM (cojT9)

185 Maybe their parents should have thought about that before they decided run the American economy into the shitter.

Thought we were heading to Venezuela grade of sux?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 21, 2014 02:17 PM (rh481)

186 Hmmm, I wonder what the comments would look like if everyone around here's children were followed around and photographed by the press as a condition of your employment.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 21, 2014 06:13 PM (kUgpq)

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If I had those perks, I'd be smilin' and well-dressed. And you'd never hear a word of hate towards America and freedom pass my lips.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 02:17 PM (B8B+F)

187

164 Must have villain, must have villain to unite dispirited base after ObamaCare cratered....

Well yeah...but demonizing the Koch brothers is a two-fer.

1) It discourages other wealthy donors from donating to conservative/libertarian causes.

2) Gives the left a villain to point to.

And also.... 3) Squirrel!

So I guess it's a three-fer.

Posted by: wheatie at March 21, 2014 02:18 PM (5jdPE)

188 Great - thanks!

Posted by: Cheri at March 21, 2014 02:18 PM (G+Wff)

189 We have experience with mother in law, but in our country it is mother of husband.

Posted by: Won Ton Po at March 21, 2014 02:18 PM (8T2uO)

190 Yeah, I leave the kids alone but Michelle is fair game, within reason.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 02:18 PM (slXFW)

191 If I had those perks, I'd be smilin' and well-dressed. And you'd never hear a word of hate towards America and freedom pass my lips. Posted by: Soona ^^^^^^^ THIS!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 02:19 PM (CRyse)

192 I just wondering why we (the taxpayers) have to pay for Michelle's mother to go to China? I can maybe see the daughters going as a good will/family gesture, but President Obama's mother-in-law?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 21, 2014 02:19 PM (XyM/Y)

193 >>> Hmmm, I wonder what the comments would look like if everyone around here's children were followed around and photographed by the press as a condition of your employment They use their kids as props. Can't be fun for the kids. I blame the narcissists that spawned them.

Posted by: fluffy at March 21, 2014 02:19 PM (Ua6T/)

194 Of course, the Left was real respectful of the Bush twins.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at March 21, 2014 02:19 PM (4twGa)

195 171 Hmmm, I wonder what the comments would look like if everyone around here's children were followed around and photographed by the press as a condition of your employment. __________________ Good point as to the children. The comments about the mother-in-law's expression and temperament would be virtually identical.

Posted by: Furious George at March 21, 2014 02:19 PM (yFb77)

196 I see TFG picked UCONN to win it all in his Women's bracket?
Who in the hell picks a Women's bracket?

Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2014 02:20 PM (yagOO)

197 Yeah agreed Michelle is definitely fair game. If she'd fucking butt out with the food nazi crap I might leave her alone.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2014 02:20 PM (oFCZn)

198 Hasn't ace frowned upon comparing Michelle O. to Chewbacca or Yetis?

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 02:22 PM (slXFW)

199 191 If I had those perks, I'd be smilin' and well-dressed. And you'd never hear a word of hate towards America and freedom pass my lips. Posted by: Soona ^^^^^^^ THIS! Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 06:19 PM (CRyse) Yup. If everyone went absolutely insane and elected me prez (pause. silence. contemplating look. laughter) I'd be: M E R I C A!!

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:22 PM (x3YFz)

200 I did not mean my statement as to the daughter looking unhappy as a slam. I've actually always been worried that this particular daughter often appears sad and down.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 21, 2014 02:22 PM (Vg/fl)

201 Yes; I'm for giving the kids a break since a lot of teenagers I know-inluding my own-spend a good deal of time scowling and rolling their eyes with their parebts-and it's certainly not because he leads a life of luxury. Just part of being a teen. Yippee! ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 21, 2014 02:22 PM (XyM/Y)

202 >>> Yeah agreed Michelle is definitely fair game. The face that launched a thousand ...ships.

Posted by: fluffy at March 21, 2014 02:23 PM (Ua6T/)

203 199 Hasn't ace frowned upon comparing Michelle O. to Chewbacca or Yetis? Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 06:22 PM (slXFW) Jealous ewok with closet proclivities to wookie sex is what I chalk it up to

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:23 PM (x3YFz)

204 So it's OK to say she looks like a gigantic assed, angry Klingon?
Just askin...

Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2014 02:23 PM (yagOO)

205 I think Klingons was also right out. Maybe it's all mythical creatures we should avoid comparing her to.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 02:25 PM (slXFW)

206 202 Yes; I'm for giving the kids a break since a lot of teenagers I know-inluding my own-spend a good deal of time scowling and rolling their eyes with their parebts-and it's certainly not because he leads a life of luxury. Just part of being a teen. Yippee! ;^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 21, 2014 06:22 PM (XyM/Y) sort of with you.... right up to the point the Obama girls are staying in 5 star hotels on my dime. And dressed like table cloths.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:25 PM (x3YFz)

207 I worry about those kids too. Michelle-despite her public demeanor-may be a very loving, attentive mother, but when you have two parents that possibly don't get along and one who is a complete narcissist that's not a good life for any kids.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 21, 2014 02:26 PM (XyM/Y)

208 BREAKING NEWS : Mark Sanchez has been released.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 02:26 PM (slXFW)

209 You don't see much about the mother in law. Seeing pictures of her, now I know why...
No wonder TFG is always golfing.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2014 02:27 PM (yagOO)

210 Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 06:25 PM (x3YFz) I haven't seen their clothes but I imagine when the Carters took Amy anywhere abroad-if they did they stayed in 5 star hotels not. Just not the MIL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 21, 2014 02:27 PM (XyM/Y)

211 They use their kids as props.

Can you name a politician who hasn't had their non-adult kids show up at political events for the cameras?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 21, 2014 02:27 PM (P7Wsr)

212 M E R I C A!!

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 06:22 PM (x3YFz)

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Absolutely. And I'd be kind and courteous to those offering me their hospitality. A form of behaviour that seems to escape this dreadful family.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 02:27 PM (B8B+F)

213 ace and I have shared more than a few e-mails over the years where we've discussed various and sundry (cough) posts on my part. You're not going to get barreled for wookie references. If I haven't been banned yet, it's a good indication that there's a lot of leeway.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:28 PM (x3YFz)

214 Meant "Stayed in 5 star hotels too" It's just that I don't recall any other first lady going on as many taxpayer jaunts as Michelle Obama has.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 21, 2014 02:29 PM (XyM/Y)

215 Was there a topic on Kobe saying Obama could play in the NBA?

Because that's some good coke Kobe must have been on.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 21, 2014 02:30 PM (P7Wsr)

216 You're not going to get barreled for wookie references.

If I haven't been banned yet, it's a good indication that there's a lot of leeway.

Why is it suddenly dark and smells of wood?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 02:30 PM (d0Dmj)

217 Yeah, the league should have Kobe piss in a cup after hearing that.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2014 02:31 PM (yagOO)

218 Was there a topic on Kobe saying Obama could play in the NBA? Because that's some good coke Kobe must have been on. Posted by: bonhomme they have a lot in common Kobe also digs anal (remember the rape charge)

Posted by: thunderb at March 21, 2014 02:31 PM (zOTsN)

219 They are both old enough and been in the WH long enough to know how to dress and behave. Hell, they have protocol experts instructing them before they go places. If they chose to ignore them, fuck 'em. They area also old enough to stay home if they didn't want to go. They are in a country where kids their age are already working long hours or going to school and working. remember, this is the place where they make young grade school kids work to pay for their education by making firecrackers during class.

Posted by: Pug Train at March 21, 2014 02:31 PM (r7mtu)

220 A seaplane has crashed on Lake Beresford in DeLand, Fla.; deputies say pilot is OK. - @MyNews13 A plane has crash-landed in a building in Vicksburg, Miss. - @16WAPTNews see original on twitter.com And the disappeared plane is still disappeared. Can't anybody fly these things anymore?

Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning... at March 21, 2014 02:31 PM (jTKU5)

221 I see TFG picked UCONN to win it all in his Women's bracket?
Who in the hell picks a Women's bracket?

Must. Not. Comment.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 02:32 PM (d0Dmj)

222

It's the sheer hypocrisy of it that gets to me...

Barky and Mooch claim to be for the poor and disadvantaged.

Yet they engage in a lavish and imperialistic lifestyle, wasting the money that has been borrowed to keep the country going.

It would be one thing, if the US was solvent and had a surplus.

But our government is borrowing money!

We cannot afford to support a King and Queen, and their two little princesses...not with borrowed money.

Our children are being made poorer by their wasteful spending.

Posted by: wheatie at March 21, 2014 02:33 PM (5jdPE)

223 Why is it suddenly dark and smells of wood? Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 06:30 PM (d0Dmj) heh... you gotta learn to duck. It's odd that sometimes people say things that remind you of something in the way back machine. For some reason, that reminds me of that boxing coach that said "Son, keeping your hands up is going to keep you from most of the punch. Ducking keeps you from all of the punch."

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:33 PM (x3YFz)

224 BREAKING NEWS : Matt Schaub traded to Oakland for pair of socks and set of steak knives.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 02:33 PM (slXFW)

225 Fig + leaves and very few of 'em.

Posted by: Axeman at March 21, 2014 02:34 PM (cAr2x)

226 The face that ~~launched~~ sank a thousand ...ships.

Posted by: fluffy at March 21, 2014 06:23 PM (Ua6T/)

You can't spell at all.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 21, 2014 02:34 PM (QFxY5)

227 It's just that I don't recall any other first lady going on as many taxpayer jaunts as Michelle Obama has.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 21, 2014 06:29 PM (XyM/Y)

----------------------------------------------------

I've been around for some time now, and I don't think there's any comparison that would be fair, except maybe Jackie Kennedy. Despite her husbands name and reputation, she was always classy to everyone around her.

The Obummers stick their asses in America's face when they go somewhere.

Posted by: Soona at March 21, 2014 02:34 PM (B8B+F)

228 Must. Not. Comment. Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 06:32 PM (d0Dmj) LMFAO Exactly.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:34 PM (x3YFz)

229 Barky and Mooch claim to be for the poor and disadvantaged. Yet they engage in a lavish and imperialistic lifestyle, wasting the money that has been borrowed to keep the country going. ====== IOW, Democrats.

Posted by: --- at March 21, 2014 02:34 PM (MMC8r)

230 Isn't Barry filling out brackets for the wimmins teams sort of like putting wimmins in a binder?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 21, 2014 02:35 PM (oFCZn)

231 WashPost is responding to a blog? Heh. Powerline got under their skin, eh?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at March 21, 2014 02:36 PM (KL49F)

232 Obama couldn't get on the court at Punahou High School - in freaking Hawaii for Christ's sake - and Kobe thinks he could play for the Lakers? He'd get schooled by the Laker Girls.

He must have been trolling Steve Nash.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 21, 2014 02:36 PM (kUgpq)

233 Can you name a politician who hasn't had their non-adult kids show up at political events for the cameras? Barney Frank

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 02:36 PM (UHqtd)

234 Isn't Barry filling out brackets for the wimmins teams sort of like putting wimmins in a binder?

Laminating 'em.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 02:37 PM (d0Dmj)

235 Barney Frank Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 06:36 PM (UHqtd) I was going to go with Harry Reid but decided the kids chained up in the well behind his house probably don't count.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:38 PM (x3YFz)

236 Sooo, no feminist outrage over not offering a prize if a perfect women's bracket is filled out?

Posted by: no good deed at March 21, 2014 02:38 PM (vBhbc)

237 BREAKING NEWS : Michael Vick to sign with the NY Jets.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 02:38 PM (slXFW)

238 WashPost is responding to a blog? Heh. Powerline got under their skin, eh?

When you are receiving flak, you are over the target.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 21, 2014 02:38 PM (d0Dmj)

239 Ace - Your coverage is exemplary, but it is for nought. The libtards have no facts on their side... but they yammer on about the environmental dangers (non-existent) and how shutting down XL is an environmental win (it isn't - Canada will ship this oil by rail care or directly to China with a west-coast pipeline and both options burn more fossil fuels and output more crud than shipping it to Texas via XL).

They are lying liars.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 21, 2014 02:39 PM (b/lt+)

240 Just to get it out there: If you fill out the NCAA women's bracket and your daughter isn't playing, you're gay. There. I said it.

Posted by: tangonine at March 21, 2014 02:39 PM (x3YFz)

241 BREAKING NEWS : Jay Cutler still woefully incompetent.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 02:39 PM (UHqtd)

242 238. But tap your foot in one airport bathroom and exiled forever.

Posted by: Infidel at March 21, 2014 02:39 PM (cojT9)

243 Sooo, no feminist outrage over not offering a prize if a perfect women's bracket is filled out?

I heard ya could win, like...$22.50

Posted by: tu3031 at March 21, 2014 02:40 PM (yagOO)

244 I wonder what the comments would look like if everyone around here's children were followed around and photographed by the press as a condition of your employment. Oh, this poor downtrodden aristocracy, forced to endure some jibes on a blog.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 21, 2014 02:40 PM (a/fgo)

245 242. Jay Cutler still woefully incompetent He would be elite if he wasn't colorblind

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 21, 2014 02:41 PM (Dsdvi)

246 nood

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 02:41 PM (slXFW)

247 It's Nappy-Headed Hos' year!

Posted by: --- at March 21, 2014 02:42 PM (MMC8r)

248

230...IOW, Democrats.

Yup.

They demonize 'The Rich'...yet engage in lifestyles of The Rich, using money that our children will have to pay back.

Posted by: wheatie at March 21, 2014 02:42 PM (5jdPE)

249 Jay Cutler still woefully incompetent He's gone 10 straight weeks without an interception.

Posted by: garrett at March 21, 2014 02:42 PM (UHqtd)

250 And the disappeared plane is still disappeared. Can't anybody fly these things anymore? Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning... at March 21, 2014 06:31 PM (jTKU5) Uh oh. Rapture. Thing is, it's a 26 episode mini-series.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 21, 2014 02:42 PM (dFOie)

251 "The Powerline article itself, and its tone, is strong evidence that issues surrounding the Koch brothersÂ’ political and business interests will stir and inflame public debate in this election year. ThatÂ’s why we wrote the piece." Translation: mainstream news trolling.

Posted by: Axeman at March 21, 2014 02:43 PM (cAr2x)

252 Sliced and diced with a fookin' hammer. Nicely done, ace.

Sadly, doesn't matter to the Obama fluffers and Democrat/Leftist cockholstering tools in the media. They sold out the Fourth Estate long ago and are irretrievably lost on their intended role as fact based gatekeepers and a truly free press. Euphemistically, they have become the 'plate'/'bottom' in a scatological relationship where they seem to relish being shit on by Obama's administration. It is growing tiresome where every time a dump is taken on them by Obama's crew, we see feigned momentary upset followed by slavish direct and indirect lying to those they are supposed to serve--the body politic. *spit*

Simply stated (and but for the need to set the record straight), they are not morally worth your time.

Posted by: eureka! at March 21, 2014 02:43 PM (06U7A)

253 Over/under on how long until China begins territorial sabre-rattling after Mooch and the girls fly home?

By 4th of July, I imagine.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 21, 2014 02:43 PM (kUgpq)

254 It would be one thing, if the US was solvent and had a surplus. But our government is borrowing money! - Barkasauruz Wreckz told us that the age of austerity was over and now we're going to be spending some serious money. He can't win with you. You're mad when he lies. You're mad when he tells these truth.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 21, 2014 02:44 PM (Mogjf)

255 At some point the left will accuse the Koch brothers of supporting Putin and then petition Obama to seize their assets.

Posted by: votermom at March 21, 2014 02:44 PM (GSIDW)

256 Ever since OWS the ebil rich must be vilified, bonus if they're involved in fossil fuels! Musta polled well with the base.

Posted by: Travis McGee at March 21, 2014 02:45 PM (Ph479)

257 I dunno..."activist = leftist" strikes me as an important admission by the Post. Any thinking person knew it all along, but now they've gone on the record with it. Staple it to their foreheads with a heavy duty staple gun (hat tip and RIP Jeff MacNelly) until the end of time.

Posted by: A message at March 21, 2014 02:50 PM (fFh95)

258 doesnt matter if the story is true, its effective that is why they do it even better their response is kinda so what we are lying, what you going to do tweet about it?

Posted by: blaster at March 21, 2014 02:54 PM (4NnP2)

259 209 BREAKING NEWS : Mark Sanchez has been released. Posted by: Dr Spank at March 21, 2014 06:26 PM (slXFW) "I hope we sign Sanchez" said no team's fans

Posted by: kbdabear at March 21, 2014 02:56 PM (aTXUx)

260 Looks like Powerline is going to have to rent that light-up billboard again, and this time put "Not Good Enough" on it. Think they'd answer a second time?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 21, 2014 02:57 PM (xq1UY)

261 CNN once had Ben Carson on some show of theirs, and the subtitle when he spoke was "Conservative Neurosurgeon." I kid you not.

Posted by: Null at March 21, 2014 03:02 PM (DuH+r)

262 Koch brothers: Because every religion needs a devil (or two).

Posted by: Bivalve Curious at March 21, 2014 03:29 PM (aGqSh)

263 From Powerlineblog: Who is Post reporter Juliet Eilperin? Among other things, she is married to Andrew Light, who writes on climate policy for the Center for American Progress. The Center for American Progress is an Obama administration front group headed by John Podesta, who is a Â“special advisorÂ” to the Obama administration. CAPÂ’s web site, Think Progress, has carried out a years-long vendetta against the Koch brothers that has focused largely on the environment. Ms. EilperinÂ’s conflict in writing about environmental issues has already been a subject of controversy at the Post. The paperÂ’s ombudsman should examine this latest example of Ms. Eilperin throwing facts to the winds in her eagerness to promote her (and her husbandÂ’s) far-left agenda.

Posted by: Socratease at March 21, 2014 04:29 PM (82qVG)

264 All activism is ~~revolutionary~~leftist. All opposition to activism is ~~reactionary~~conservative. QED.

Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at March 21, 2014 04:32 PM (MbqmP)

265 Why do people in the press remind me of "Big Boy"* in the movie Dick Tracy? Every time they get caught - they have a new line of Bull Shit to cover it up-but underneath it all they're just frustrated thugs - who know they aren't getting away with it.

*Except for Sharyl Attkisson - who is more like "Tess Truheart".

Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] An Observation at March 21, 2014 05:25 PM (ylhEn)

266 The Koch brothers are more than welcome anytime they want to invest in Canadian oil sands. As for US turd balls who don't want a pipeline eat it bitches we'll sell it to china or putin or anyone for that matter. Sad to see America flushed down the drain I've never seen it so bad.

Posted by: CanadianGuyEh at March 21, 2014 06:14 PM (1PqiV)

267 The Post used to fit for wrapping fish. Now its not fit for even that.

Posted by: Veritas at March 22, 2014 12:25 PM (aqcYr)

268 I always figured that the Kochies were the most likely financial backers of this hacky sad sack of a blah-hating white supremacist website, and now we know.

Posted by: Deshroomius Bandersnatch at March 22, 2014 11:13 PM (w45V0)

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