April 25, 2014

Wayne LaPierre: "‘Gun Rights Have Become a Metaphor for Something Larger"
— Ace

Indeed.

“Gun rights have become a metaphor for something larger: a feeling, this sense of something that’s slipping away, a yearning for individual rights.”

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“We’re at a precipice in this country. I know every one of you feels it. These next two and a half years are going to determine how things go for the rest of our lives. I have never seen it on edge the way it is now."

There's a little bit more at the Corner; I didn't want to swipe all of Geraghty's post. I think he's at the NRA convention (along with Andy, John, and BenK).

And what is that thing that's being lost?

I think it's social/cultural pluralism. There have always, of course, been forces for social/cultural conformity, on both the left and right. And dissidents and counter-cultural types have always been pressured to join the "default" American culture.

But something has changed-- there is an insistence now, like never before, that those who dispute the consensus culture of the New Class -- which dominates our media and idea-propagating institutions -- must adapt or die.

I think this is caused by a shift in the New Class' political/cultural cache. Whereas previously they were not in such a dominant position, they tended to argue in favor of pluralism (what we once called "liberalism"). This stance was self-serving for the New Class, as many in that class were themselves dissident for what would, if not checked, be a hegemonic culture they found distasteful (traditionalism, religiosity, "American values," patriotism, etc.).

Thus, by defending pluralism, the New Class really was defending its own cultural prerogatives.

But the New Class is feeling its oats now -- it feels empowered (by Obama, by government's increasing grandeur, by a complete domination of the news-gathering apparatus) and thus no longer feels it has to argue defensively against a hegemonic culture it despises.

Rather, it senses that if it fights offensively for its own cultural preferences, it can win.

The New Class has moved from thinking it had to champion cultural pluralism in order to maintain social space for itself to fighting against cultural pluralism, for they now believe they have the power to force their culture on the entire nation.

Why content yourself with your culture merely being permitted and tolerated when you have the power to make it governmentally favored and socially mandated?

Mollie Hemingway wrote a few weeks ago about the end of American pluralism. I quote her quoting Vaclev Havel, about the End Game.

Whether you view McCarthyism as a freedom-crushing outrage or as a sound tactic for bringing dissidents into conformity will often (sadly) turn on whether or not you feel you have the power to employ McCarthyite tactics fruitfully, or if those tactics are likely to be used mostly against you -- whether you believe The Mob is with you, or against you.

The New Class has felt a shift in its own fortunes, and is better able to direct The Mob for its own purposes, and have thus gone from decrying McCarthyism to zealously practicing it. (Well, the New Class isn't quite so honest as that -- they continue to decry McCarthyism, while zealously practicing it. They just say "It's not McCarthyism when we do it because we're right" or the like.)

“The Power of the Powerless,” written under a communist regime in 1978, is his landmark essay about dissent. It’s a wonderful read, no matter your political persuasion. It asks everyone to look at how they contribute to totalitarian systems, with no exceptions. It specifically says its message is “a kind of warning to the West,” revealing our own latent tendencies to set aside our moral integrity. Reading it again after the Eich dismissal, I couldn’t help but think of how it applies to our current situation in the States.

“The post-totalitarian system demands conformity, uniformity, and discipline,” Havel wrote, using the term he preferred over “dictatorship” for the complex system of social control experienced in Czechoslovakia. We also have a system that is demanding conformity, uniformity and discipline.
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To explain how dissent works, Havel introduced the manager of a hypothetical fruit-and-vegetable shop who places in his window, among the onions and carrots, the slogan: “Workers of the world, unite!” He’s not actually enthusiastic about the sign’s message. It’s just one of the things that people in a post-totalitarian system do even if they “never think about” what it means. He does it because everyone does it. It’s what you do to get along in life and live “in harmony with society.”

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The subtext of the grocer’s sign is “I do what I must do. I behave in the manner expected of me.” It protects him from supervisors above and informants below.

Havel is skeptical of ideology. He says that dictatorships can just use raw power, but “the more complex the mechanisms of power become, the larger and more stratified the society they embrace, and the longer they have operated historically … the greater the importance attached to the ideological excuse.” We don’t have a dictatorship, obviously, but we do have complex mechanisms of power and larger and more stratified society.

In any case, individuals need not believe the lies of an ideology so much as behave as though they do, or at least tolerate them in silence or get along with those who work with them. “For by this very fact, individuals confirm the system, fulfill the system, make the system, are the system,” Havel says.

And that's what I think the gun rights are, basically. Gun rights are, to the New Class, one of the two foulest expressions of a culture they do not approve of (gay stuff is the other one, though who knows what the tremulous Neopuritans will be on about next year), and they're fighting on gun rights not really because of any particular belief that this or that measure will do anything to improve "safety," but because they are The People Who Don't Like Guns, and they are also The People With Hegemonic Cultural Power in This Country, and damnit, they're going to use that hegemonic cultural power to make it official government policy as well as official approved social coding that Guns Are Bad and The Gun People Are Bad Too.

Some of the New Class, of course, are cruder and more florid in their denunciations and otherizations than most.


Posted by: Ace at 11:31 AM | Comments (310)
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1 Lord, why hasn't anyone taken away Piers Morgan's Twitter account?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 25, 2014 11:32 AM (8ZskC)

2 But the New Class is feeling its oats now -- it feels empowered (by Obama, by government's increasing grandeur, by a complete domination of the news-gathering apparatus) and thus no longer feels it has to argue defensively against a hegemonic culture it despises. So Questioning Authority isn't cool anymore?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 25, 2014 11:34 AM (8ZskC)

3 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 11:34 AM (PYAXX)

4 Surely Musket Morgan must be the man for the job!

Posted by: huerfano at April 25, 2014 11:34 AM (bAGA/)

5 Hey, England- what would we have to pay to get you to take Piers Morgan back?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 11:34 AM (PYAXX)

6 Piers, you ignorant c*nt.

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 11:34 AM (UD2qu)

7 The @NRA is now in paid collusion with gun manufacturers to arm every single American. Somebody, surely, has to stand up and stop them?


.... Why is this a bad thing, Pierced Organ? 



Awww, it's because you feel left out, isn't it, you poncey dickbag?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 25, 2014 11:35 AM (4df7R)

8 I liked when lefties said they'd attack anybody they saw carrying a gun after Sandy Hook. That plan, oddly, never left the internet chatrooms of the howling mob.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 25, 2014 11:35 AM (Eflez)

9 Morgan is still unemployed, right?

Posted by: huerfano at April 25, 2014 11:35 AM (bAGA/)

10 They want mine? Fine. But some of them will make the trip to hell with me.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2014 11:35 AM (UjHCx)

11 Mollie Hemingway again ? Hmmm, sounds like a crush. Joking aside, this is spot on My family and me were just talking about this last night. Heaven help us.

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 11:35 AM (nTgAI)

12 The Unpeople of Jesusland. Honestly, that is entirely what this is about. Those who do not think the "proper" way are not subhuman. They are not human at all and thus any and all actions taken against them are only just and proper. Yeah. I know how that story ends.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 25, 2014 11:36 AM (mf5HN)

13 Guns are a very tangible reminder of one's right to stop invasion of one's person or space. Seems like it is in direct response to the government's very tangible invasion of individuals' person and space - DHS enhanced patdowns, Obamacare making our physical well-being their business (and by extension, what we should eat), NSA combing through every detail of our lives, over the top raids of Gibson Guitar-->Bundy ranch, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2014 11:36 AM (8zTpe)

14 Disarmament in the only answer. Damn, somebody is in my pool again.

Posted by: Carl Rowan at April 25, 2014 11:36 AM (l3vZN)

15 Shorter New Class manifesto: "Four legs good, Two legs BETTER."

Posted by: ZBBMcFate at April 25, 2014 11:37 AM (Hj9yW)

16 Piers Morgan. Hah. She's a weak girl.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 11:37 AM (x3YFz)

17 Hey Piers Go the fuck home... Shitheads like you are why we're gonna have a national divorce.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 11:37 AM (88+Ak)

18 In before a "conservative" shits all over LaPierre.

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 11:38 AM (/29Nl)

19 Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism!

Posted by: Cankles 2016 at April 25, 2014 11:38 AM (UD2qu)

20 Wondering what ol' Piersy was up to. Still agitating for totalitarianism I see.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 11:38 AM (gOoFi)

21 Whether you view McCarthyism as a freedom-crushing outrage or as a sound tactic for bringing dissidents into conformity...

Shit. Those are my only choices?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 25, 2014 11:38 AM (xq1UY)

22 The @NRA is now in paid collusion with gun manufacturers to arm every single American. Somebody, surely, has to stand up and stop them?

And there it is, in a nutshell.  Piers is saying there are bad people out there, and we need to have someone well-armed enough to stand up to them.  Kind of like the rationale for our military.  Or for people who want to be armed in case their own government gets frisky. 

Think it through, Piers, think it through. 

Posted by: pep at April 25, 2014 11:38 AM (4nR9/)

23
The British are irrelevant.  The British are irrelevant.

   --- Paul Revere.... Circa 2014


Posted by: fixerupper at April 25, 2014 11:38 AM (nELVU)

24 Gun rights are, to the New Class, one of the two foulest expressions of a culture they do not approve of (gay stuff is the other one),

I thought the New Class is thrilled with anything gay.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 25, 2014 11:39 AM (AC0lD)

25 A chicken in every pot and a cap in every ass.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 11:39 AM (gOoFi)

26 I really like Mollie Hemmingway. I usually don't care too much for women's issues (e.g. I generally don't take part in women's groups or conventions at church), but I enjoy her writing on such matters. So sensible.

Posted by: Chique at April 25, 2014 11:39 AM (r+7wo)

27 Someone go let Chique out of the barrel. 

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 11:39 AM (knoK7)

28 I think Obamacare dovetails nicely with the "losing individual rights." It's shameful and crazy we're dismantling the best insurance and healthcare system in the world. I don't give a shit what anyone says, you could have bought very decent insurance cheaply had you chosen to do so.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 25, 2014 11:39 AM (A98Xu)

29 12 AlexTheChick, Yup...why I embraced "divorce" majesty... I've seen thi movie in the Original Germn, Russian, Chinese, and Khmer.... I hope enough of us get it to get it done.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 11:39 AM (88+Ak)

30 "...Somebody, surely, has to stand up and stop them?" "Who will stop these assasins?" Gee, Piers, guess you'll just by sitting on the sidelines egging on others to do your dirty work.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2014 11:39 AM (8zTpe)

31 Oh, Jeremy, can you punch Piers for us again?

Posted by: [/i]KG at April 25, 2014 11:39 AM (p7BzH)

32 We are in a desperate fight for the soul of America. See, it doesn't really take 10,000 words.

Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 11:40 AM (xWW96)

33 Guns are the ultimate liberty. Armed we are citizens. We might allow more or less encroachment on our liberty, but we still have the final vote (as it were). Disarmed we are subjects. However mightily we might fight, we cannot oppose any usurpation of our Right of Self Determination. My Right to Keep and Bear Arms does not come from the Government- it comes from God who empowered me to protect myself and those I love. Any regime which does not acknowledge that is a regime which embraces tyranny and opposes liberty.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 11:40 AM (PYAXX)

34

Something is coming.  Nobody is sure what it is, but it's on its way.  Don't believe me?  Go to your local hardware store and try to buy a brick of .22 LR ammo.  The stresses and strains of the Socialism Lite republic that the New Deal ushered in are starting to show.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at April 25, 2014 11:40 AM (sB09V)

35 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 25, 2014 03:36 PM (mf5HN) It's truly odd when you think about it. I'm smart. I've got scores to back that up (although I freely admit that my brand of crazy and poor writing skills masks the quite a bit.) In any case, lots of times in my dealings with colleagues I run into a bit where I'll make an argument, rational and formed and all that jazz and they'll just look at me and go "Yes, but you're wrong." And I'll go "why?" And they'll simply say "Because it can't be that way." And I'll just shake my head and go "Well OK then." Probably 80% of the arguments I make at conferences and such are dismissed, not because they're bad, or poorly formed, but simply because they aren't the "right" arguments to be made.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 25, 2014 11:40 AM (HDwDg)

36 27 Someone go let Chique out of the barrel. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 03:39 PM (knoK7) I escaped. It was a harrowing experience, fighting death in the barrel.

Posted by: Chique at April 25, 2014 11:41 AM (r+7wo)

37 "Oh, Jeremy.." With pleasure. Also, I'm testing a new Land Rover this week. I'll be sure to run over him with it too.

Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at April 25, 2014 11:41 AM (gOoFi)

38 I suppose now, through our poor school systems, children/teens/young adults don't even understand what they've lost.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 25, 2014 11:41 AM (A98Xu)

39 The kettle is starting to whistle. I wonder if the Progs know when to turn down the heat?

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 25, 2014 11:42 AM (oDCMR)

40 It was a harrowing experience, fighting death in the barrel. That wasn't death... and you don't get out until we have a replacement. The barrel must be occupied.

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 11:42 AM (UD2qu)

41 You know, there's actually a book called "The New Class." It's by Milovan Djilas. I recommend it highly. First book I read about communism from the inside. In 1966.

The New Class meant something. It's not just a phrase you can throw around at whoever's bothering you. I wonder whether the current crop of class-warriors could have cut it in Tito's Yugoslavia.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 25, 2014 11:42 AM (xq1UY)

42 " fighting death in the barrel. " Meh. Do it once, twice.....fourteen times and you get use to it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 11:42 AM (gOoFi)

43 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 03:40 PM (PYAXX) Cars are also essential to freedom. (Someone over at Volokh made a great case for this.) And look at the war on driving occurring via attempts to raise the gasoline price and what not.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 25, 2014 11:42 AM (HDwDg)

44 Guns are a great equalizer.  Anyone that knows how to use a firearm with a degree of skill, and owns a firearm, is automatically better equipped for survival that anyone who isn't.

Those who are most likely to want/obtain/use firearms for lawful purposes are those who recognize the nature of conflict, the possibility of danger, and are able to extrapolate consequence from both action and inaction.

Such people are inherently better at survival, anyway.

And if those people survive when resources are limited, the less able people won't.

So the guns must be taken away to cause some of the better-adapted people to be weakened, and thus vulnerable in the same manner.  Although some of their own will be lost with attrition, with everyone disarmed, it becomes a random distribution rather than skewing to the left.

And that's why guns are bad.

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 11:42 AM (/29Nl)

45 It will not end peacefully. They are determined to bring us under their rule. I prefer death, with lots and lots of leftard company.

Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 11:42 AM (xWW96)

46 Soap box, ballot box, ammo box.

Posted by: davidt at April 25, 2014 11:42 AM (PAplM)

47 "I escaped. It was a harrowing experience, fighting death in the barrel. Posted by: Chique at April 25, 2014 03:41 PM"

Brava.  The decon point is thataway --->

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 11:42 AM (knoK7)

48
"But the New Class is feeling its oats now -- it feels empowered (by Obama, by government's increasing grandeur, by a complete domination of the news-gathering apparatus) and thus no longer feels it has to argue defensively against a hegemonic culture it despises."

Of course, why, the New Left is aged and in control of all grades of education now. Obama is letting them run amok. We can see it happening right now. Of course, the GOP rolls with it, because racism and stupidity.

The interesting thing about that Michigan case that got decided is that they people who want AA will just call it something else and shove it through. They tried, failed, but will not stop, ever.

They are like Varmint Kong. They want a fight.


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bonehead liberal at April 25, 2014 11:43 AM (xggaJ)

49 Also: people in power are always, always nervous when they think about mobs of peasants with torches and pitchforks.

The New Class are in power now at the federal level and in many of the states.

But they sense, on gun rights, that the peasants have been muttering angrily and mobilizing effectively, down at lower levels of control and governance where the New Class don't have as solid a grip as they would like.

Thus, as state after state adopts shall-issue concealed carry laws, driven by peasant pressure, the New Class becomes more and more hysterical about OMG GUNS GUNS GUNS OMG. Because they're not so much worried about the guns per se, as they are about the peasants successfully mobilizing and opposing New Class philosophies and policies.

It's a model that could be genericized and used in other ways, and that possibility scares the blazes out of the modern American _nomenklatura_.

Why, if we go far enough down that road, some of these restive peasants might decide to completely strike out on their own, and start to set up shop entirely outside the scope of New Class oversight. The peasants might even issue a "declaration of independence" or some such thing. Catastrophe!

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 11:43 AM (noWW6)

50 And by "poor" I don't mean money, I mean a shitty system that is more concerned with diversity and green study than real math or science.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 25, 2014 11:43 AM (A98Xu)

51 14 Disarmament in the only answer. Damn, somebody is in my pool again. Posted by: Carl Rowan

One of the more amusing episodes of rank hypocrisy.  Well, not for the kid he shot for swimming in his pool. 

Rowan says the man kept coming and that he finally felt forced to shoot in self-defense. He says he aimed at the intruder's feet but hit him in the wrist when the man lunged forward.
There should be a test for marksmanship before you can buy a gun.  Like you can hit a barn, whilst in it.

Posted by: pep at April 25, 2014 11:43 AM (4nR9/)

52
But... since Chique posted a thread within a thread.... is she enbarreled inside another barrel.????

Posted by: fixerupper at April 25, 2014 11:43 AM (nELVU)

53 We are in a desperate fight for the soul of America. See, it doesn't really take 10,000 words. Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 03:40 PM (xWW96) ________________ When is the right going to get up off the mat and join the fight?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 25, 2014 11:44 AM (32Ze2)

54 Dear Piers,



Go F*ck Yourself,



Sincerely,



Georgia HB60

Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 11:44 AM (L8r/r)

55 With pleasure. Also, I'm testing a new Land Rover this week. I'll be sure to run over him with it too.

Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at April 25, 2014 03:41 PM (gOoFi)


Ooh ooh, does that mean you'll take him back? I mean, it *is* kind of hard to punch across an ocean...

Posted by: [/i]KG at April 25, 2014 11:44 AM (p7BzH)

56 Disarmament in the only answer. I wouldn't go that far.

Posted by: Rick Allen at April 25, 2014 11:44 AM (UD2qu)

57 Lord, I could use some bacon. The kind you stick on a stick and cook over a campfire.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 25, 2014 11:44 AM (8c12T)

58 Hey, England- what would we have to pay to get you to take Piers Morgan back? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 03:34 PM (PYAXX) I believe this sums up England's response to that. http://bit.ly/1lcRAjP As far as the whole psychology of guns issue, guns are now and have long been a proxy for independence and for a recognition of the limitations of government. When I say that when seconds matter, the police are only minutes away, that is not a slam on the police. I do not want to live in a society where that is otherwise. What does that mean? That means that I understand that in exchange for freedom from a police state, I will be left in a vulnerable position where the only person who is responsible for my safety is me. That is scary. Freedom is frightening. There's no net. There's no one to help you. There's only you and you are going to fail and you are going to fall and you are going to have to start over and that's terrifying. It is also exhilarating. Speaking in enormously broad strokes, the Right emphasizes the power and exhilaration of being able to go out on your own and strive and achieve. The Left emphasizes the pain and difficulty of failure and the terror of not being able to recover. Gun ownership is a stand in for all of that. If you own a gun, you accept that you must care for yourself and that you must be careful with your power. If you believe that people are not capable of exhibiting that care, then, naturally, you think gun ownership is a terrifying act of power without concomitant responsibility. What this says about the Left's view of humanity and the proper use of power is interesting indeed.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 25, 2014 11:45 AM (mf5HN)

59 "But... since Chique posted a thread within a thread.... is she enbarreled inside another barrel.????" Is that Barrel theory? That would involve math. We all know about the maths.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 11:45 AM (gOoFi)

60 And on that note, I'm out horde. Somewhat ironically I'm going to a part time job interview to work in the firearms section of a sporting goods store. (I figure if I'm going to go get a part time job, it might as well be one that is never more than 20 feet from guns and ammo.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 25, 2014 11:45 AM (HDwDg)

61

I would argue this is a very practical thing  you can do, everyone and anyone, if you are concerned about your liberty.

 

Arm yourself.

 

Own a weapon or two, and learn to use them.  If you ever feel impotent, believing words are hollow, this is a remedy. 

 

Do it.  Join us.  We  need you. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2014 11:45 AM (TOk1P)

62 The Samsung Galaxy S5's 16-megapixel camera is one of its best assets, but it's also turned into something of a liability for the company just weeks after launch. Complaints across internet forums have documented a major flaw with the camera on some devices — particularly the Verizon Wireless model — that renders the shooter useless.

According to reports, a "camera failure" error has been randomly popping up for some new owners. There's no obvious cause behind the bug, but once the error is received, the camera hardware becomes permanently disabled. Users have taken afflicted S5 phones back to carrier stores and Samsung's own specialty sections at Best Buy in hopes of bringing the camera back to life, but only a physical exchange for a new device has remedied the problem so far.

Posted by: David Axelrod at April 25, 2014 11:45 AM (e8kgV)

63 "The New Class meant something. It's not just a phrase you can throw around at whoever's bothering you."

If memory serves, the late Christopher Lasch used the term frequently, and pretty much to refer to the same sorts of people to whom ace refers.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 11:45 AM (noWW6)

64 They think they are in charge, but what happens if they become afraid that they over-estimated their power?  That is more dangerous because, angry and fearful, they may take a rash action thinking 'he who dares wins' and set off something very, very bad.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Ragey. My Friends at April 25, 2014 11:45 AM (4RSqo)

65 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 25, 2014 03:42 PM (HDwDg) True. Ish. If you take away my car, I'll have *a harder time* expressing my Right of Mobility (also given by God, not by government), but I'll still have my own two feet. If you take away my weapon, my Right to Self Defense is effectively eliminated. My ability to defend myself MUST be equal to or greater than the ability of the bad guys to try to hurt me. If I, as a law-abiding citizen, am limited to hands and feet, and the bad guy has a knife or gun, I cannot defend myself if he intends me harm.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 11:46 AM (PYAXX)

66 DENVER — The federal government has reluctantly agreed to let Colorado be the first state to collect taxes from the legal sale of recreational marijuana, but it also has made clear it doesn't agree with the move and may try to stop it, if isn't tightly controlled.

Instead of keeping a low profile with the money, however, some Colorado lawmakers are trying the bold move of using millions of dollars they've collected so far from pot sales to seek matching funds from the federal government to keep kids off drugs.

The plan calls for transferring $3.5 million from the state's marijuana cash fund to its general fund and then sending the same amount to a state department that would apply for a federal match.

Posted by: BearManPig at April 25, 2014 11:46 AM (e8kgV)

67 And look at the war on driving occurring via attempts to raise the gasoline price and what not.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 25, 2014 03:42 PM (HDwDg)



And "high speed" rail and other cattle car transportation modes.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 11:46 AM (L8r/r)

68

God made man, but Piers Morgan is a douche-canoe.....

 

Catchy slogan I think....

Posted by: Samuel Colt at April 25, 2014 11:47 AM (DErq5)

69

Also: people in power are always, always nervous when they think about mobs of peasants with torches and pitchforks.

 

-----

 

Something that has stuck with me for awhile now...

 

Some time ago Prince Charles and his fuckbuddy turned queen in waiting Camilla Bowles were in a limo being taken somewhere.  For some reason it became the target of a protest.  I don't recall the reason for the protest, nor do I care...but what hit me was the look on Chuck's face as captured by a photographer during the protest.  It was a weird mix of indignance and raw terror.  Indignant at these commoners having the temerity to challenge him, and the fear that he could do absolutely nothing about it.

 

There is a lesson in there somewhere.  I think it has to do with the need for a tyrant to realize, in his heart of hearts, that his position rests on a rather fragile foundation.  He has the fear that one day the people will also see how fragile that foundation is and move to do something about it.

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 25, 2014 11:47 AM (eytER)

70 Anybody know much about the governor of Georgia? I heard the feds are going after him for ethics violation but the source seems to be from lefty rags.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 25, 2014 11:47 AM (8c12T)

71 I'm a cunt. In fact, I'm a cunt's idea of a cunt.

Posted by: Piers Morgan at April 25, 2014 11:47 AM (pQJEV)

72 But... since Chique posted a thread within a thread.... is she enbarreled inside another barrel.???? Posted by: fixerupper at April 25, 2014 03:43 PM (nELVU) Oh no! You're right. The outer barrel is just much larger and *slightly* cleaner, so I thought I had escaped into Philly. Nope, still in a barrel. Save me!

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 25, 2014 11:47 AM (r+7wo)

73 One clever thing that the Left did was to appropriate Cool. When they were a bunch of intellectuals in grubby clothes they were uncool; then they moved into the culture and became the definition of Cool. People want to be associated with that. Now, of course, they are the Man, but they have managed the neat trick of being the Man and being Cool simultaneously, which is why you see Barky doing silly shit like dancing badly on the Jimmy Fallon show. Eventually they will be nothing but the Man and they will brook no mocking. That will be the dark time. A state that will not tolerate mocking will go very far indeed to enforce a state of seriousness.

Posted by: joncelli at April 25, 2014 11:48 AM (RD7QR)

74 I know what edge of the cliff I'm on.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 25, 2014 11:48 AM (nsOJa)

75 KBDaBear @kbdabear @piersmorgan @DRUDGE_REPORT They Killed Piers Morgan's ratings! Those bastards! #tcot

Posted by: kbdabear at April 25, 2014 11:48 AM (aTXUx)

76 I lost half my friends and social network over Obama. My politics didn't change. They accepted me during the Clinton administration when I was a outspoken right-winger -- with a black girlfriend , no less. We disagreed, but were friends. I've always lived in big cities and college towns and have always been a political minority, but still got by. With Obama everything changed, I was publicly called a racist -- again, by people who knew me when I was in love with and living with a black woman. What had been my minority political opinions in my social circle were now invidious, evil ideas that only a vile, disgusting racist could possible believe. Obama's campaign caused a massive disruption in my personal life that no other politician ever did. And it was my richest, most powerful friends who turned on me. The ones who'd done the best since college and had achieved positions of influence and power. It materially hurt me that my social connections to the good life in America were, in many way, severed because I refused to conform over Obama.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 11:48 AM (ZPrif)

77 ...however, some Colorado lawmakers are trying the bold move of using millions of dollars they've collected so far from pot sales to seek matching funds from the federal government to keep kids off drugs.

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o_O


Posted by: fixerupper at April 25, 2014 11:48 AM (nELVU)

78 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 03:46 PM (PYAXX) I'm not saying "cars are greater than guns." I'm merely pointing out that here are things that are important as all get out to freedom, and they're currently under attack.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 25, 2014 11:48 AM (HDwDg)

79 Who will stop me from this dreaded case of the vapors!



*oh swoon goes the vagina!*

Posted by: Piers Morgan at April 25, 2014 11:48 AM (pQJEV)

80 Disarmament in the only answer. I wouldn't go that far. Posted by: Rick Allen I had to look that one up!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 25, 2014 11:49 AM (l3vZN)

81 KBDaBear @kbdabear @SMadurski @piersmorgan @DRUDGE_REPORT Piers has a sad, and @JeremyClarkson still has a highly rated show #tcot

Posted by: kbdabear at April 25, 2014 11:49 AM (aTXUx)

82 Someone go let Chique out of the barrel. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 03:39 PM (knoK7) I have cheesecake and ice cream for her when we throw the rope ladder down.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 11:49 AM (x3YFz)

83 The new "culture club" can't have our guns, but we'll send them our bullets. And quickly at that.

Posted by: Roy at April 25, 2014 11:49 AM (VndSC)

84 Save me!

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 25, 2014 03:47 PM (r+7wo)


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Not until you buy me a new scroll wheel........ 

Posted by: fixerupper at April 25, 2014 11:49 AM (nELVU)

85 Disarmament in the only answer.


I wouldn't go that far.
Posted by: Rick Allen


That's pretty damn funny, once I realized you meant a specific Rick Allen.

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 11:49 AM (/29Nl)

86 All is proceeding as is ordained. "They deeply deplored the degeneracy of the times in which they lived, emphasising particularly the indifference to religion, the increasing materialism and the laxity of sexual morals. They lamented also the corruption of the officials of the government and the fact that politicians always seemed to amass large fortunes while they were in office. The historians commented bitterly on the extraordinary influence acquired by popular singers over young people, resulting in a decline in sexual morality." The above is about Baghdad in the tenth century... taken from John Glubb's "Fate of Empires" (easy to do a search and get the 26 page PDF) We are witnessing a repeat of history as it relates to Empires thru the ages.

Posted by: Russtovich at April 25, 2014 11:50 AM (8zhoe)

87

But something has changed-- there is an insistence now, like never before, that those who dispute the consensus culture of the New Class -- which dominates our media and idea-propagating institutions -- must adapt adopt or die.

 

Adaptation presumes that the disputers maintain their disputed lifestyle underground.  That's not what the Left wants - they want total subservience.

Posted by: steveegg at April 25, 2014 11:50 AM (o44nj)

88 Simpler concept, which our Founder's understood. If the State has a Monopoly on violence, then eventually the people will NOT be free... For States ALWAYS want more control... to grow... to take more... And in the end... Governance IS only possible through the threat, or application, of violence. Thus, the 2nd Amendment is the last safeguard of the Peoples Rights against an Armed State.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 11:50 AM (84gbM)

89 Disarmament in the only answer. I wouldn't go that far. Posted by: Rick Allen But I need my arms. who will volunteer to help me pee? No one, that's who. Need the arms.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 11:50 AM (x3YFz)

90 SPRING COLLECTION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKemEJFsBjI

Posted by: THE VAPORS at April 25, 2014 11:51 AM (UD2qu)

91 If you own a gun, you accept that you must care for yourself and that you must be careful with your power. If you believe that people are not capable of exhibiting that care, then, naturally, you think gun ownership is a terrifying act of power without concomitant responsibility.

What this says about the Left's view of humanity and the proper use of power is interesting indeed.

Interesting.  Libs are the ones who think man is perfectable, provided of course, that they're in charge.  Cons believe man is crooked timber, and will never be made perfect.  Yet it is libs who want to take away guns because of the power it gives the individual.  It's almost as if human good isn't really the liberal goal, control is.  Almost.

Posted by: pep at April 25, 2014 11:51 AM (4nR9/)

92 Homos with Guns must bring on Norman-Coordinate seizures in the New Class.

Posted by: The Barrel at April 25, 2014 11:51 AM (QupBk)

93 Is Pierced Organ still a thing? Spot on target, Ace.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 11:51 AM (CMkNk)

94 Disarmament in the only answer. I wouldn't go that far. Posted by: Rick Allen ------------------------ *rimshot - footpedal*

Posted by: Roy at April 25, 2014 11:51 AM (VndSC)

95 dammit

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at April 25, 2014 11:51 AM (QupBk)

96 Flatbush Joe: With the exception of the black gf I could have written that myself. Family, friends, coworkers, all have been shaken out over this.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 25, 2014 11:51 AM (l3vZN)

97 It's not about guns.

The core of the 2nd Am and other natural rights is Self Preservation. Guns are only a means; 'arms' from armaments should include a raft of implements and guns were the most effective means for self-defense at the time the 2nd Am was written.

If one doesn't have the right to Self Preservation, one is not a citizen, one is not even a human being.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 25, 2014 11:51 AM (ujux6)

98
Someone should tattoo "Manchester United are Wankers" on Piers Morgan's forehead and drop him in front of Old Trafford stadium.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 25, 2014 11:51 AM (mETGQ)

99

There's the tribal signifier thing and then there's this: A well armed populace is harder to bully. I think it's that simple for some of these fucks.

Posted by: Warden at April 25, 2014 11:52 AM (HzhBE)

100 With Obama everything changed, I was publicly called a racist -- again, by people who knew me when I was in love with and living with a black woman. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 03:48 PM (ZPrif) Just because you dated a black woman doesn't mean you're not racist. You probably secretly enjoyed enslaving and oppressing her. /Lily white person (NTTAWWT) who wouldn't be caught dead dating a black person.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 25, 2014 11:52 AM (r+7wo)

101 According to reports, a "camera failure" error has been randomly popping up for some new owners. There's no obvious cause behind the bug, but once the error is received, the camera hardware becomes permanently disabled. Users have taken afflicted S5 phones back to carrier stores and Samsung's own specialty sections at Best Buy in hopes of bringing the camera back to life, but only a physical exchange for a new device has remedied the problem so far. Pro tip: Don't photograph your junk. No one wants to see it. Especially your camera.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2014 11:52 AM (UjHCx)

102 Good luck tsrblk! (did I spell that correctly? Meh, I blame Piers)

Posted by: [/i]KG at April 25, 2014 11:52 AM (p7BzH)

103

And that's what I think the gun rights are, basically. Gun rights are, to the New Class, one of the two foulest expressions of a culture they do not approve of (gay stuff is the other one, though who knows what the tremulous Neopuritans will be on about next year),

 

Home ownership.  They're already lining up to call those of us who own our own homes kulaks.

Posted by: steveegg at April 25, 2014 11:52 AM (o44nj)

104 Adaptation presumes that the disputers maintain their disputed lifestyle underground. That's not what the Left wants - they want total subservience. Posted by: steveegg at April 25, 2014 03:50 PM (o44nj) Yep.... it is not longer OK that you Tolerate the Gay Culture.... now you must Support, Advance, and Celebrate it.... or be cast out...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 11:52 AM (84gbM)

105 Ace, what you say about culture, though, only applies to whites. Well, maybe Asians, but no criticism is made of any minority underclass for not performing. Of course, minorities who are not in the underclass are, in fact, expected to conform to the New Class's tastes.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 25, 2014 11:52 AM (1UzRc)

106 Disarmament in the only answer. I wouldn't go that far. Posted by: Rick Allen ------------------------ *rimshot - footpedal* Posted by: Roy at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (VndSC) I totally missed the reference. Drat.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 11:52 AM (x3YFz)

107 I'm merely pointing out that here are things that are important as all get out to freedom, and they're currently under attack. Fair enough. We could add to that list, though. The Family- the Family unit is the basis of all government; it is the first "social circle" in which a person learns about boundaries, shared responsibilities, etc. And the Left has set out to destroy it. I'm sure there are more, too.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 11:53 AM (PYAXX)

108 Hey pols, why so jumpy? Isn't there something in the law about knowing do the bad deed? Yeah, i think there is.

Posted by: dogfish at April 25, 2014 11:53 AM (nsOJa)

109 Disarmament in the only answer. I wouldn't go that far. Posted by: Rick Allen Now that was teh funneh!

Posted by: Citizen X at April 25, 2014 11:53 AM (7ObY1)

110 Notice that Beck's entire pitch for BlazeTV is about "more voices" and "celebrating conversation" and "diversity of voices", blah, blah, blah. Beck makes a big stink of fighting for the right of Al Jazeera America and MSNBC to be on TV. Cause he's doing what the Left used to do, trying to carve out a safe space for himself. He's blatantly borrowing the language they used to use.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 11:53 AM (ZPrif)

111 Homos with Guns must bring on Norman-Coordinate seizures in the New Class. Posted by: The Barrel at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (QupBk) My very existence is terribly troublesome to all kinds of people on both sides of the aisle.
I find this to be utterly hilarious.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 25, 2014 11:53 AM (mf5HN)

112 71 I'm a cunt. In fact, I'm a cunt's idea of a cunt. Posted by: Piers Morgan at April 25, 2014 03:47 PM (pQJEV) His lips are horizontal piss flaps.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 11:53 AM (CMkNk)

113 Piers will never go back to the UK. One, they hate him. Two, he makes big bucks and has a big house in Beverly Hills. All these limey big mouths rag on the US and Hwd but they fucking love it.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 25, 2014 11:53 AM (8c12T)

114 Save me!

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 25, 2014 03:47 PM (r+7wo)



We'll have a Lyle gun set up in a jiffy and shoot you a line.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Ragey. My Friends at April 25, 2014 11:53 AM (4RSqo)

115 Pro tip: Don't photograph your junk. No one wants to see it. Especially your camera. Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2014 03:52 PM (UjHCx) /deletes folder uh... totally agree!

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 11:54 AM (x3YFz)

116

If one doesn't have the right to Self Preservation, one is not a citizen, one is not even a human being.

 

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (ujux6)

 

Funny you put it that way, subhuman.

Posted by: Average New Leftist at April 25, 2014 11:54 AM (o44nj)

117

>..."WeÂ’re at a precipice in this country. I know every one of you feels it. These next two and a half years are going to determine how things go for the rest of our lives. I have never seen it on edge the way it is now."

 

And if one fucking potential Republican presidential candidate would say this, he'd galvanize the party and be on his way to victory.

Posted by: rrpjr at April 25, 2014 11:54 AM (s/yC1)

118 Posted by: KG at April 25, 2014 03:52 PM (p7BzH) I'd much rather have a full time job with benefits. But... Obama economy. Also we need a new driveway, and the chimney is still busted (only unusable, not actually problematic.) So we takes whatever money we can get. Plus, discount on Camouflage would be useful before deer season.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 25, 2014 11:54 AM (HDwDg)

119 Loved Havel's essay even if it is a little dated now.  Unfortunately I'm the fool that posts the "Workers of the World, Untie" sign.  As an Aggie I should be able to plead incompetence and avoid the camps for a while.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 25, 2014 11:54 AM (L02KD)

120 111 Homos with Guns must bring on Norman-Coordinate seizures in the New Class. Posted by: The Barrel at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (QupBk) My very existence is terribly troublesome to all kinds of people on both sides of the aisle. I find this to be utterly hilarious. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 25, 2014 03:53 PM (mf5HN) Hey Stella! Shadd-up!! (Zombie Brando meets Zombie Roger C. Carmel)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 11:54 AM (CMkNk)

121 Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (ujux6) Note, the 2nd Amendment does not say Guns... it says 'Arms'.... An Arm is defined as a Militarily viable weapon.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 11:54 AM (84gbM)

122
"Gun rights have become a metaphor for something larger
this sense of something thatÂ’s slipping away"





There's nothing I can do

A total eclipse of the heart

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 25, 2014 11:55 AM (kdS6q)

123 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 03:53 PM (PYAXX I grabbed the first one I could think of, and it's been on my mind ever since I read that Volokh post.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 25, 2014 11:55 AM (HDwDg)

124 This "Piers" fellow certain has a fixation about "guns".



*rotates cigar slowly in between closed lips*

Posted by: Dr Freud at April 25, 2014 11:55 AM (pQJEV)

125 Look at the bright side, when they are finally crushed without mercy and reduced to refugees fleeing to escape the noose, they get to claim victimhood.

Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 11:55 AM (xWW96)

126 My very existence is terribly troublesome to all kinds of people on both sides of the aisle. You do have your own army.

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 11:55 AM (UD2qu)

127 It's kind of funny how the left simply does not win on this issue. Everywhere else, they're successful, but pretty much every time they pick a fight in public on guns, they lose and lose and lose.

I'm curious to know why this is.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 25, 2014 11:55 AM (I8YZX)

128 We don't need no thought control.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at April 25, 2014 11:56 AM (eMmyk)

129 With Obama everything changed, I was publicly called a racist -- again, by people who knew me when I was in love with and living with a black woman....
Posted by: Flatbush Joe

That argument isn't as strong as you'd think. 

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at April 25, 2014 11:56 AM (4nR9/)

130 The new class might be feeling its oats, but this simpering "all is lost" bullshit is getting really tiresome. Guns are probably the clearest example where the left has been getting their ass handed to them by the voters and the courts for a long time. We should all be grateful to the NRA for not falling in line with the quivering, let it burn, doomsday whiners that tend to congregate here for their daily fix of impotent wailing.

#poetic

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 25, 2014 11:57 AM (+lsX1)

131 I'd much rather have a full time job with benefits.

But...
Obama economy.


Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 25, 2014 03:54 PM (HDwDg)


I know... My wife is gonna be joining in the fun rat race once the immigration process gets past a certain stage in the next few months, ugh.

Posted by: [/i]KG at April 25, 2014 11:57 AM (p7BzH)

132 Anybody know much about the governor of Georgia? I heard the feds are going after him for ethics violation but the source seems to be from lefty rags.

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 25, 2014 03:47 PM (8c12T)



Nutshell: Special Snowflake ethics chief investigates Deal's 2010 campaign.  Then wanted a pay raise, but due to budget cuts, got salary decrease.  Claimed pay cut and eventually job loss was due to retaliation by Deal.  Got a jury award of $700k a few weeks ago.  Libs latching on trying to turn into "Jersey Fatboy Part II" and get Peanut Head III (Jason Carter) into the governorship.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 11:57 AM (L8r/r)

133 My very existence is terribly troublesome to all kinds of people on both sides of the aisle. I find this to be utterly hilarious. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 25, 2014 03:53 PM (mf5HN) Darlin, I served with many lesbians. Those girls were harder than a woodpecker's lips, reliable, loyal and not the personyou wanted to piss off. Strange critters you all, and I don't really get it, but sure as hell if it's raining bullets and I get to pick my team? Yeah. No question.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 11:57 AM (x3YFz)

134 I'm curious to know why this is.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 25, 2014 03:55 PM (I8YZX)


The answer can be found in another question:

Why do they insist everyone be unarmed but themselves/their guards?

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 11:57 AM (/29Nl)

135 AlextheChick is correct that a society where the police are able to respond anywhere in seconds is a society where the police are everywhere. On every streetcorner. 24/7. Watching.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 25, 2014 11:58 AM (TNcMy)

136 http://realestalker.blogspot.com/2013/02/from-vaults-piers-morgan.html

Posted by: Sir Pug A Lott at April 25, 2014 11:58 AM (8c12T)

137 The Family- the Family unit is the basis of all government; it is the first "social circle" in which a person learns about boundaries, shared responsibilities, etc. And the Left has set out to destroy it. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 03:53 PM (PYAXX) Starting with the foolish notion that you only have to be born in the family home to be a member of the family, rather than having to go through an official adoption process.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 11:58 AM (bb5+k)

138 Nice post Ace! Meet the New Class, same as the Old Class. Ok, this thought started on the last thread but since all the corgis moved here, am gonna post my thoughts here. Sorry for the length. 607 I once told Ace that he really should publish a compilation of his essays but he didn't think it was a good idea. (I forgot the exact reason, but it was along the lines of probably not being good enough or worth it.) Sigh. He marinates in his incredible writing and mindthoughts, so he probably doesn't realize how unique his talent is since it's normal to him. I think this is the case with a lot of talented and/or brilliant people, those that aren't raging narcissists. I want Ace to make loads of money, darn it! Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 25, 2014 01:58 PM (r+7wo) Yes, please!! I have a lot of his political essays bookmarked already - I'd pay money for a book of them. Every day I read this blog and think, wow, where would I be (politically) without Ace's content.Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at April 25, 2014 03:36 PM (OzZJn) YES! If a fictitious fluff-for-brains like Carrie Bradshaw can compile her idiotic namblings and put them in a book, so can a real life Ewok. And it would be wonderful. I got to hear from a comic artist last week, he talked about he was embarrassed about the crude art style of his early work, didn't want to publish them even though his fans were clamboring for them. His wife had finally had it and said enough is enough, we are not leaving money on the table. I will edit the book for you so you don't have to look at it, but we are doing this thing. So they did. Fans happy, guy made money. Win win. Do we the Horde need to play the role of the guy's wife in this scenario? Could we, say, start a Kickstarter to help crowdfund a book by Ace? If we met the posted goal then maybe he'd actually believe us when we say the book is a good idea. Not sure what prizes you'd offer for different levels of giving, or who's supply them, but is a thought. And no you don't get Kate Upton as a prize, so don't ask.

Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 11:59 AM (yRwC8)

139 Posted by: OregonMuse at April 25, 2014 03:55 PM (I8YZX I think it's because Guns are fun. In my teenage years I bought into the whole gun control thing. Now? I shoot trap, and want more weapons in my house. My wife was iffy about guns, went and shot some said "Huh, a handgun might be nice for home defense."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 25, 2014 11:59 AM (HDwDg)

140 Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 03:58 PM (bb5+k) Maybe I need more coffee, but that... actually didn't make any sense.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 11:59 AM (PYAXX)

141 Guns are probably the clearest example where the left has been getting their ass handed to them by the voters and the courts for a long time.


Antonin Scalia decides to retire, and it's all undone.

Court victories mean shit.

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 11:59 AM (/29Nl)

142 I'm curious to know why this is. Posted by: OregonMuse at April 25, 2014 03:55 PM (I8YZX) ********* Because groups like NRA and GOA give no quarter and always push for more. Just like the Leftists. A smart opposition might look at this and come up with a new strategy.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 11:59 AM (ojnk6)

143 135 AlextheChick is correct wait, what?!!!!! guess its the broken clock rule

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 25, 2014 11:59 AM (krmE0)

144 AlextheChick is correct that a society where the police are able to respond anywhere in seconds is a society where the police are everywhere. On every streetcorner. 24/7. Watching. Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 25, 2014 03:58 PM (TNcMy) heh... unless you need them. Then you're on your own for 15 minutes.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 11:59 AM (x3YFz)

145 The New Class also has come to power in the age of Facebook and Google. It's so easy to figure out somebody's politics these days. You want a job? You want that house? You want that promotion? Who is in a position of power of you and what do they think about that anti-Obama pic you put on Facebook? It's the same reason Repubs have been less willing to do the bumper sticker thing for so long -- the other side is more likely to key your car than we are theirs. So we keep quiet to not cause trouble. My Facebook is filled with triumphant preening by my lefty friends and family. They are not shy about their moralizing politics. My conservative friends and family are much more circumspect about what they put out there. It's much easier to have this people-powered Totalitarianism today, and both the Left and the Right feel that. And the Left controls all the institutions. It's left-wing Zuckerberg at Facebook that has all our data. It's the hard left billionaire Googlers that have all our email. It's the leftist government unions that have all our govt data. The leftist IRS agents with our tax records, etc, etc.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 12:00 PM (ZPrif)

146 The answer can be found in another question:Why do they insist everyone be unarmed but themselves/their guards?

Well, the left gets away with all kind of hypocrisy on other issues, so I'm pretty sure this isn't the answer.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 25, 2014 12:01 PM (I8YZX)

147 I believe the old saying is why do I want to carry a gun? because a cop won't fit on my hip timing: I literally just got home to grab the new boomstick to take to HPD to register

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 25, 2014 12:02 PM (krmE0)

148 Antonin Scalia decides to retire, and it's all undone. --- yep. At least in left-wing cities and states. It wouldn't all go away, but our victories in states like California, New York, Illinois, etc would go away within months.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 12:02 PM (ZPrif)

149 I have 2 LE buddies. One retired NYC detective, other is a city police guy. We're plotting our Domination Of The Planet. It involves knives and shotguns. And yoga pants.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 12:02 PM (x3YFz)

150 Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 03:42 PM (/29Nl) To paraphrase... God did not make Women Equal.... but Colonel Colt can...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 12:02 PM (84gbM)

151 Antonin Scalia decides to retire, and it's all undone.

I'm afraid we will not see his like again on SCOTUS, not in our lifetime.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 25, 2014 12:03 PM (I8YZX)

152 Oregon throws in the towel, can't fix it's healthcare plan, gives up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 25, 2014 12:03 PM (aDwsi)

153 Well, the left gets away with all kind of hypocrisy on other issues, so I'm pretty sure this isn't the answer.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 25, 2014 04:01 PM (I8YZX)


Human instinct for self-preservation.  Leftist hypocrisy is never more apparent when one of their own asses is on the line.

It's a jungle out there.  People aren't blind, even though they don't always think.

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 12:03 PM (/29Nl)

154 12 The Unpeople of Jesusland. Honestly, that is entirely what this is about. Those who do not think the "proper" way are not subhuman. They are not human at all and thus any and all actions taken against them are only just and proper. Yeah. I know how that story ends. --- With the supposed "proper-thinking" people with a bullet between the eyes when they went after the non-humans?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 12:03 PM (APuJ7)

155 We should all be grateful to the NRA for not falling in line with the quivering, let it burn, doomsday whiners that tend to congregate here for their daily fix of impotent wailing. #poetic Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 25, 2014 03:57 PM (+lsX1) And that's how you spread a lie. You imply that people are whiners when they note that it is impossible for the nation to pay the 90 trillion in liabilities it owes. "Non sequitur", do you speak it?

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 12:03 PM (bb5+k)

156 149 I have 2 LE buddies. One retired NYC detective, other is a city police guy. ~~~sob~~~

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 25, 2014 12:03 PM (krmE0)

157 HPD to register Posted by: navycopjoe at April 25, 2014 04:02 PM (krmE0) "register?" I'm confused.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 12:04 PM (x3YFz)

158 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 04:00 PM (ZPrif) Word for word, QFT.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 25, 2014 12:04 PM (7ObY1)

159 "register?" I'm confused. Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 04:04 PM (x3YFz) In case the evil gun brainwashes him into killing people.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 12:05 PM (PYAXX)

160 Walking around a modern college campus or big city, how many would wear an NRA hat? You know a fair % of the people you walk pass will hate you for it. They have convinced themselves it's like walking around with a KKK hat.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 12:05 PM (ZPrif)

161 I think of it as Gandalf on The Second Amendment Bridge, saying "You may not pass." You may come no further into my sphere.
 
Interestingly enough, the two newest and large drivers of first time firearm ownership are women and Dems (which have some correlation, looking at the women voting totals for TFG vs. Romney). This, more than anything, may explain why restrictive new gun laws are possible in only the bluest of the blue states (CO being just blue enough, apparently).

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2014 12:05 PM (cHZB7)

162 Isn't there some racist anti government nutter you should be supporting Ace.

Posted by: Bob at April 25, 2014 12:05 PM (aHGAr)

163 >>Why do they insist everyone be unarmed but themselves/their guards? Same reason they can live in multiple, spacious homes and jet all over the world while insisting that the rest of us live in micro-housing, use public transportation, and follow a vegan diet: Some pigs are more equal than others.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2014 12:05 PM (8zTpe)

164 It's left-wing Zuckerberg at Facebook that has all our data. It's the hard left billionaire Googlers that have all our email. It's the leftist government unions that have all our govt data. The leftist IRS agents with our tax records, etc, etc. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 04:00 PM (ZPrif) I said this during the Mozilla brouhaha; if a libertarian software programmer made an email/browser combo that promised absolute privacy, and Google/FB way overplay their hand, said libertarian could possibly make a fortune. But it might be too late, Google/FB are so entrenched in the LIV culture now. But ours is but to do and die, right?

Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 12:06 PM (yRwC8)

165 Some pigs are more equal than others. --- Anyone want bacon?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 12:06 PM (APuJ7)

166 If the NRA was run by the GOP establishment, they would be pushing for universal "common sense" registration right now. Seriously.

Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 12:06 PM (xWW96)

167 they're fighting on gun rights not really because of any particular belief that this or that measure will do anything to improve "safety," but because they are The People Who Don't Like Guns, and they are also The People With Hegemonic Cultural Power in This Country, and damnit, they're going to use that hegemonic cultural power to make it official government policy as well as official approved social coding that Guns Are Bad and The Gun People Are Bad Too. Welcome to the Dark Side, young padawan.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 12:06 PM (TIIx5)

168 Perhaps Wayne LaPierre should run for President. If nothing else (and I don't know anything about him other than that he's the head of the NRA) it would make leftists heads explode.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 25, 2014 12:06 PM (XyM/Y)

169 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 04:05 PM (ZPrif) I do get funny looks when I wear my favorite Tshirt... says.. Fight Crime Shoot Back

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 12:07 PM (84gbM)

170 167 Welcome to the Dark Side, young padawan. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 04:06 PM (TIIx5) Padawan. Is that some sort of Thai noodle dish?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 12:07 PM (CMkNk)

171 Walking around a modern college campus or big city, how many would wear an NRA hat? You know a fair % of the people you walk pass will hate you for it. They have convinced themselves it's like walking around with a KKK hat. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 04:05 PM (ZPrif) When I taught an university level I carried, sometimes open. Know what the gremlins said? They felt safer.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 12:07 PM (x3YFz)

172 Same reason they can live in multiple, spacious homes and jet all over the world while insisting that the rest of us live in micro-housing, use public transportation, and follow a vegan diet: Some pigs are more equal than others.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 25, 2014 04:05 PM (8zTpe)


Yep.  And they truly believe that because they are preaching for "good" policy on a macro level, whatever they do is actually just compensation for using their soapbox to "spread the word."



Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 12:07 PM (/29Nl)

173 Maybe I need more coffee, but that... actually didn't make any sense. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 03:59 PM (PYAXX) Family=Nation. Home=Inside our borders. Adoption=Naturalization. Letting someone become a member of our family just because they were born inside our house is idiocy. England even got rid of that nonsense back in the 19th century.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 12:07 PM (bb5+k)

174

Its sad to say, but you know when I think an all out effort would be to get citizen firearms?  Under a Prez Jeb or Prez Christie.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2014 12:07 PM (hJauc)

175 157 whenever you acquire a firearm in Honolulu you have 48 hours to take it to the Honolulu Police Dept to register it as the legal owner and to have it checked for legality I bought the lower on weds so today is the day since I had to fire it yesterday and will go straight to the range afterwards to fire it again (I need to zero the flip ups)

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 25, 2014 12:07 PM (krmE0)

176 Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 04:06 PM (xWW96) Why does anyone need *two* guns? Registration isn't about taking away your right to "Keep and Bear," it's about making sure we don't have private armies.

Posted by: John NRA Boehner at April 25, 2014 12:08 PM (PYAXX)

177 I'm curious to know why this is.

Posted by: OregonMuse

Because they are so gdamn effective for stopping violence. It's inherited knowledge that the Left has little access to remove.

It's a rare, obtuse person that would be unwilling to use one in dangerous circumstances to protect themselves or their family.

TTAG had a thought experiment to be asked of gun-grabbers: you and your family are in a locked room. There is a phone, a shotgun, and a letter. The letters states that in the next 5 minutes a large man will break down the door and kill everyone in the room. Do you call the cops or pick up the shotgun?

Again, only the most obtuse or dense would only call the cops.

Our culture has the gun deeply imbedded in it. Think of any action flick or apocalyptic sci fi. Invariably the characters pick up weapons. The average movie exec/writer/producer can't even come to censor their use without looking like jackasses ignorant of reality.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 25, 2014 12:08 PM (ujux6)

178 McCarthyism is now resulting in actual outbreaks.

http://tinyurl.com/k722wy2

Funny how Joe's "Moral Panics" never killed anyone.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 25, 2014 12:08 PM (DL2i+)

179 LaPierre seems to be on to something clever, but I don't think he's quite there yet. We really should be talking about individual rights rather than gun rights. The Left got wise and used "choice" and "reproductive rights" instead of the morbid and unsavory sounding phrase abortion rights.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 12:08 PM (DxThd)

180 Without the glorious second amendment all the rest of the Constitution and the Declaration are just so many pretty words . It fucks with the totalitarians sooo much . John Tant above mentioned the fragility of the ruling class . The Bundy debacle illustrated that for all the world to see . It sticks in their craw like a dog with a sharp chicken bone . Of course , they will be back with blood in their fascist eyes . How does this end ? With blood and tears but maybe freedom as well . The important thing is not to lose our nerve .

Posted by: awkward davies at April 25, 2014 12:09 PM (whqez)

181 154 With the supposed "proper-thinking" people with a bullet between the eyes when they went after the non-humans? Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 04:03 PM (APuJ7) Old and busted = Arbeit macht frei New Lefty hotness = Arbeit macht todt

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 12:09 PM (CMkNk)

182 Because groups like NRA and GOA give no quarter and always push for more. Just like the Leftists. A smart opposition might look at this and come up with a new strategy. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 03:59 PM (ojnk6) They force both parties to agree on gun issues because when one of them doesn't, they throw their weight behind the other party. This is very effective technique. Over time, they have both parties supporting their position.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 12:09 PM (bb5+k)

183 Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 04:07 PM (bb5+k) Ah. Okay. I don't think that actually holds up as a metaphor (since, in most cases, simply being born into a family *is* what makes you family), but I get what you're saying.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 12:09 PM (PYAXX)

184 Remember when we used to comfort ourselves by muttering something about how if/when push comes to shove, that our policemen and our military would never fire on citizens like us?

Posted by: Furious George at April 25, 2014 12:09 PM (yFb77)

185 166 If the NRA was run by the GOP establishment, they would be pushing for universal "common sense" registration right now. Seriously. Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 04:06 PM (xWW96) Note.... the Bush Administration had the House, Senate, and Presidency.... and did not roll back any gun legislation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 12:09 PM (84gbM)

186 Joe McCarthy may have been loud and crude, but as history has proven he wasn't wrong.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 12:10 PM (CMkNk)

187 The NRA does have one problem inho -- Harry Reid. How they can endorse that dirtbag sleazeball like a turd breathmint is a black mark upon them, indeed.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2014 12:10 PM (cHZB7)

188 England even got rid of that nonsense back in the 19th century. Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 04:07 PM (bb5+k) ------ But the U.S. was there to pick up the ball and run with it!

Posted by: RioBravo at April 25, 2014 12:10 PM (Syulp)

189 168 Perhaps Wayne LaPierre should run for President. If nothing else (and I don't know anything about him other than that he's the head of the NRA) it would make leftists heads explode. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 25, 2014 04:06 PM (XyM/Y) Heh. Wayne LaPierre/Ben Carson 2016! We should spread this rumor just to see the MSM fumble badly to cover it on the news shows. They will be like the balloon spherical animals in the sidebar.

Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 12:10 PM (yRwC8)

190 And for the zillionth time, Piers Morgan likes guns just fine. Including machine guns. Just as long as he can use one to brutally assassinate Jeremy Clarkson. http://tinyurl.com/opn4b4t

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 12:10 PM (TIIx5)

191 The Left isn't even arguing much about guns. It's all about demonizing the NRA. To make it icky and disgusting. So far it hasn't worked. But we'll see. Bloomberg's $50M (annually!, next year another $50M) is not gonna be spent on arguments about gun control. It's gonna be spent on demonization. They want to make the NRA the new KKK -- something no decent person would have anything to do with. Demonization works. Hell, they've gone after the Boy Scouts, with some success.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 12:10 PM (ZPrif)

192 184 that our policemen and our military would never fire on citizens like us? depends if you have large boobs and/or a large cash bribe

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 25, 2014 12:11 PM (krmE0)

193 Why does anyone need *two* guns? Registration isn't about taking away your right to "Keep and Bear," it's about making sure we don't have private armies. Posted by: John NRA Boehner at April 25, 2014 04:08 PM (PYAXX) Well.... some of us are ambidextrous...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 12:11 PM (84gbM)

194 127--- It's kind of funny how the left simply does not win on this issue. Everywhere else, they're successful, but pretty much every time they pick a fight in public on guns, they lose and lose and lose. I'm curious to know why this is. Posted by: OregonMuse at April 25, 2014 03:55 PM (I8YZX) ------------------------- One reason, among many, is that the issue does not have to work against the FSA impulse. The desire for small government and liberty is pretty abstract and may conflict with the desire for hand-outs taken from "the rich." The desire to bear arms doesn't entail the risk of losing welfare loot.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 25, 2014 12:11 PM (dfYL9)

195 Remember when we used to comfort ourselves by muttering something about how if/when push comes to shove, that our policemen and our military would never fire on citizens like us?

Posted by: Furious George at April 25, 2014 04:09 PM (yFb77)


A lot has changed since 2008.  A lot.

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 12:11 PM (/29Nl)

196 187The NRA does have one problem inho -- Harry Reid. How they can endorse that dirtbag sleazeball like a turd breathmint is a black mark upon them, indeed.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2014 04:10 PM (cHZB7)

 

 

After losing a million or so members, they backed out of that, I believe.

Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 12:12 PM (xWW96)

197 185 Note.... the Bush Administration had the House, Senate, and Presidency.... and did not roll back any gun legislation. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 04:09 PM (84gbM) They grew government and spent more than all administrations combined. UntilÂ… So anyone who says shut up and just elect more Republicans is not paying attention.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 12:12 PM (CMkNk)

198 >>> Why does anyone need *two* guns? Because it looks cool?

Posted by: Hollywood producers and action stars at April 25, 2014 12:12 PM (yRwC8)

199 Too bad Ace omitted in this great post the media's cutesy and misleading renaming of Georgia's new Second Amendment law as the Guns Everywhere bill/law.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 12:12 PM (DxThd)

200 Hell, they've gone after the Boy Scouts, with some success. --- Most of the success I've seen has centered on California one way or another, which is a lefty political and cultural stronghold.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 12:12 PM (APuJ7)

201 The NRA does have one problem inho -- Harry Reid. How they can endorse that dirtbag sleazeball like a turd breathmint is a black mark upon them, indeed. Posted by: GnuBreed at April 25, 2014 04:10 PM (cHZB7) ********* NRA is a single issue organization. They would back Pelosi if she were pro gun rights.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 12:12 PM (ojnk6)

202 198 >>> Why does anyone need *two* guns? Because it looks cool? Posted by: Hollywood producers and action stars at April 25, 2014 04:12 PM (yRwC Because the M-79 is attached to my schvantz.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 12:13 PM (CMkNk)

203

Note.... the Bush Administration had the House, Senate, and Presidency.... and did not roll back any gun legislation.

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 04:09 PM (84gbM)

 

Except for the "Assault" Weapon Ban.

Posted by: steveegg at April 25, 2014 12:13 PM (o44nj)

204 btw, the next deadly school shooting in GA, which the Left and Piers Morgan are right now praying for, is gonna be blamed on the "Guns Everywhere" law.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 12:13 PM (DxThd)

205 Too bad Ace omitted in this great post the media's cutesy and misleading renaming of Georgia's new Second Amendment law as the Guns Everywhere bill/law. Wait. That's misleading? Dammit Georgia! I was looking forward to taking my gun wherever I wanted! Seriously, that name is probably the weakest attempt at demonization I've seen in a long time. It might play well on the coasts, but in Middle America (and especially the south) what you'll get is, "Guns everywhere? Where do I sign up?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 12:14 PM (PYAXX)

206 Because, you know, GA now allows guns to be carried in schools..

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 12:14 PM (DxThd)

207 202 198 >>> Why does anyone need *two* guns? Because it looks cool? Posted by: Hollywood producers and action stars at April 25, 2014 04:12 PM (yRwC Because the M-79 is attached to my schvantz. --- Don't forget my codpiece gun.

Posted by: Sex Machine at April 25, 2014 12:14 PM (APuJ7)

208 So anyone who says shut up and just elect more Republicans is not paying attention. ---- So is anyone who says there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 12:14 PM (ZPrif)

209 One reason, among many, is that the issue does not have to work against the FSA impulse. Hmm, here's an idea: endorse free guns for everyone, so they can defend themselves against a rising tide of lawlessness. (Including training and safety lessons and one box of ammo per year!) Hilarity. Will. Ensue.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 25, 2014 12:14 PM (rt3TY)

210 195 Remember when we used to comfort ourselves by muttering something about how if/when push comes to shove, that our policemen and our military would never fire on citizens like us? Posted by: Furious George at April 25, 2014 04:09 PM (yFb77) A lot has changed since 2008. A lot. Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 04:11 PM (/29Nl) During Katrina, they were going door to door, and confiscating Guns... that was Police and National Guard....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 12:14 PM (84gbM)

211 Thank you Ace, a really well thought out piece and well written. Outlaw big gulps, outlaw fireplaces, a recent Supreme Court dissent which states the individual right do free speech is not as important as the collectives right, ban of guns cuz they are scary. Yes Wayne is right and I only see it getting worse before it ever gets better. I'm not advocating violence but I see it in my crystal ball.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 12:14 PM (HVff2)

212 16 year old boy stabs a 16 year old girl classmate at a school this morning in Connecticut because she refused to go to the prom with him. I did not know the lice in Brian Williams' toupee could chirp that loudÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 12:15 PM (CMkNk)

213 How many people did the NRA assassins shoot over the last holiday weekend. As I recall, in the city with among the strictest gun control laws, something like 45 people were shot. Several killed. How the left manages to ignore the gigantic dots on this puzzle, let alone connect them, is breathtaking. It's that dogma of 'Superstitionism' that I mentioned in an earlier post. Speak not against the dogma, lest you be cast out!

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 25, 2014 12:15 PM (BZAd3)

214 in Middle America (and especially the south) what you'll get is, "Guns everywhere? Where do I sign up?" --- Bingo. If lefties have a problem with this, they can feel free to stay the fuck out of our states.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 12:15 PM (APuJ7)

215 207 Don't forget my codpiece gun. Posted by: Sex Machine at April 25, 2014 04:14 PM (APuJ7) Let's hit it and quit it! Get up, git on up!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 12:16 PM (CMkNk)

216 Nice post. That is the dread we all feel.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 25, 2014 12:16 PM (IXrOn)

217 btw, why is there not a Sex Pistols vid accompanying this post??

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 12:16 PM (DxThd)

218 shorter version: HEY, GOVERNMENT, STAY OUT OF MY LIFE!! ALSO, FU!

Posted by: Seems legit at April 25, 2014 12:17 PM (A98Xu)

219 Posted by: Bob at April 25, 2014 04:05 PM (aHGAr)

I think he's agnostic, so you won't find him with Rev. Wright.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Ragey. My Friends at April 25, 2014 12:17 PM (4RSqo)

220 wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

Posted by: Slippery Slope of Western Civilization at April 25, 2014 12:17 PM (5ikDv)

221 So what you're saying is that Republicans want to shoot black people because they're racists?

Posted by: Low Information Voter at April 25, 2014 12:17 PM (pmsMR)

222 btw, why is there not a Sex Pistols vid accompanying this post?? --- Feel free to put on Megadeth's cover "Anarchy In The USA" isntead.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 12:17 PM (APuJ7)

223 207 202 198 >>> Why does anyone need *two* guns? Because it looks cool? Posted by: Hollywood producers and action stars at April 25, 2014 04:12 PM (yRwC Because the M-79 is attached to my schvantz. --- Don't forget my codpiece gun. Posted by: Sex Machine at April 25, 2014 04:14 PM (APuJ7) This is my rifle, this is my gun...

Posted by: That Guy in Full Metal Jacket at April 25, 2014 12:18 PM (yRwC8)

224 simply being born into a family *is* what makes you family), Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 04:09 PM (PYAXX) Now i'm the one that has to say that doesn't make any sense. If your parent is not a member of the family, you cannot be born into it. This is distinctly different from merely being born inside someones family home. Adoptions can't be done by accident. It requires an above board and intentional effort to *MAKE* someone a member of your family through the process of adoption. Naturalization law and Adoption should follow the same principle. You ought not be naturalized without a deliberate intent from the National government.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 12:18 PM (bb5+k)

225 What is a sex pistol, anyway? You ever hear anyone in real life call someone a real pistol? As in, she's a real pistol, that one.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 12:18 PM (DxThd)

226 Why does anyone need *two* guns? If I'm killt, it won't be for a lack of shooting back.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at April 25, 2014 12:18 PM (QupBk)

227 Note.... the Bush Administration had the House, Senate, and Presidency.... and did not roll back any gun legislation. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 04:09 PM (84gbM) Except for the "Assault" Weapon Ban. Posted by: steveegg at April 25, 2014 04:13 PM (o44nj) Tempered by the fact that none of them did anything proactive to repeal that Fed law. They just stood by and did nothing when it expired.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 12:18 PM (TIIx5)

228 110 Notice that Beck's entire pitch for BlazeTV is about "more voices" and "celebrating conversation" and "diversity of voices", blah, blah, blah. Beck makes a big stink of fighting for the right of Al Jazeera America and MSNBC to be on TV. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 03:53 PM (ZPrif) Beck reminds me of the Fred MacMurray character from "The Caine Mutiny"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 25, 2014 12:19 PM (aTXUx)

229 "Guns everywhere? Where do I sign up?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 04:14 PM (PYAXX)



Pretty much what most Georgians are saying.   One of the provisions of the law, incidentally, is that it "prohibits a ban on firearms in public housing, ensuring that the right to self-defense should not be infringed based on where one calls home."  Of course, leftists want to strike this down.  Why are they so raaaayyyycciiissss?

Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 12:19 PM (L8r/r)

230 During Katrina, they were going door to door, and confiscating Guns... that was Police and National Guard....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 04:14 PM (84gbM)



Oh sure.  It has been a problem since before 2008.  Things have....accelerated...since then.

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 12:19 PM (/29Nl)

231

>>They think they are in charge, but what happens if they become afraid that they over-estimated their power? That is more dangerous because, angry and fearful, they may take a rash action thinking 'he who dares wins' and set off something very, very bad.

.

.

.They did that in Connecticut with all the new gun laws after the shooting.  Now the State has to face the fact that an estimated 250, 000 people who refused to register their now banned guns and high cap magazines.  The Governor and the State Police are petrified of what is going to happen.  The Hartford Courant paper wants the State to use the "secret" firearms database to arrest and prosecute every single one of them.  It is going to be very ugly in the near future. 

Posted by: Registered Voter at April 25, 2014 12:19 PM (TCFwA)

232 184 Remember when we used to comfort ourselves by muttering something about how if/when push comes to shove, that our policemen and our military would never fire on citizens like us? Posted by: Furious George at April 25, 2014 04:09 PM (yFb77) After all the purges by this regime, I no longer believe that. I think many of our troops will shoot us like good little Nazis.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 12:19 PM (bb5+k)

233 Speaking of Megadeth, I'm getting a kick outta watching the animated series Metalocalypse.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 12:19 PM (DxThd)

234 >>> What is a sex pistol, anyway? A Sex Pistol is what you use to fight your way to your Love Gun.

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 12:20 PM (UD2qu)

235

This is my rifle, this is my gun...

 

Posted by: That Guy in Full Metal Jacket at April 25, 2014 04:18 PM (yRwC

 

This is for fighting.

This is for fun.

Posted by: Privates Joker, Snowball and Cowboy at April 25, 2014 12:20 PM (o44nj)

236 217 btw, why is there not a Sex Pistols vid accompanying this post?? Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 04:16 PM (DxThd) Happiness is a warm gun...wait what am I talking about again?

Posted by: John Lennon at April 25, 2014 12:20 PM (yRwC8)

237 During Katrina, they were going door to door, and confiscating Guns... that was Police and National Guard....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 04:14 PM (84gbM)



Another provision of HB60 that leftists hate: "Protects the Second Amendment rights of all law-abiding gun owners from being restricted or infringed by executive authority under a declared state of emergency."

Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 12:21 PM (L8r/r)

238 233 Speaking of Megadeth, I'm getting a kick outta watching the animated series Metalocalypse. --- BOOZE AIN'T FOOD? I'd rather chop off my dingdong than admit that!

Posted by: William Murderface (murderface murderface) at April 25, 2014 12:21 PM (APuJ7)

239 "NRA is a single issue organization. They would back Pelosi if she were pro gun rights. " This I understand but I am not a single issue voter. Guns are big but when the NRA endorses Reid I think "WTF."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 12:22 PM (gOoFi)

240 btw, why is there not a Sex Pistols vid accompanying this post?? Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 04:16 PM (DxThd)

Happiness is a warm gun...wait what am I talking about again?

Posted by: John Lennon at April 25, 2014 04:20 PM (yRwC


------


ooooooooh......  all the Joan River Joke Haters would like a word with you.....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 25, 2014 12:22 PM (nELVU)

241 How the left manages to ignore the gigantic dots on this puzzle, let alone connect them, is breathtaking.


They have to ignore it as a psychological defense mechanism.  They literally cannot process it without it causing them a physiological reaction. When you confront them with it, they lose their shit.  Some likely feel physical pain.

That's why it is so strong.  They will do anything, think anything, to avoid the pain of their cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 12:22 PM (/29Nl)

242 @236 Because the Sex Pistols were lame. Death to false metal.

Posted by: maloderous at April 25, 2014 12:22 PM (zq4Wd)

243 NRA is a single issue organization. They would back Pelosi if she were pro gun rights. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 04:12 PM (ojnk6) This is true, and it is exactly what they ought to be doing. The reason they are so effective is because each side knows they have no qualms about backing opposition from the other side if you don't give them what they want. They aren't bluffing. Cross them and they will fuck you in the most effective way they can; By supporting the opposition candidate.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 12:22 PM (bb5+k)

244 '...now we're paying for the days of wine and roses...'

Posted by: Merle Haggard at April 25, 2014 12:23 PM (UD2qu)

245 I wonder just how extreme (possibly not the right word) the dogma of Superstitionism could get. Because when you boil it down, what it amounts to is absolute belief (faith, if you will) in what you imagine in your utopian mind for things to be like, when in the reality that we are all experiencing, they are not like that at all. A willful participation in a mass delusion, perhaps. This is really a pretty profoundly religious type of experience when you consider it.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 25, 2014 12:23 PM (BZAd3)

246 Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 04:18 PM (bb5+k) Agreed. That's why I said "in most cases." And being "born into a family" almost never actually includes the birth actually taking place in the home. Not in the US anyway. And my children are part of my family specifically by virtue of them being my children. Fruit of my loins, and all that. Now, what you say about Adoption is correct, and likening Naturalization to Adoption works. But what you said initially was "being born into a family" NOT (as I recall, and I'm too lazy to go look) "being born inside a family's house." And that metaphor (being born into a family) doesn't work for the Naturalization question.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 12:23 PM (PYAXX)

247 BOOZE AIN'T FOOD? I'd rather chop off my dingdong than admit that! He's a hoot! But my favorites are the Scandi guitarists and Skwisgaar and Toki.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 12:23 PM (DxThd)

248 BOOZE AIN'T FOOD? I'd rather chop off my dingdong than admit that! Posted by: William Murderface (murderface murderface) at April 25, 2014 04:21 PM (APuJ7) Of course it is.

Posted by: BignJames at April 25, 2014 12:24 PM (j7iSn)

249 Posted by: Hollywood producers and action stars at April 25, 2014 04:12 PM (yRwC Why not?

Posted by: RWC at April 25, 2014 12:24 PM (fWAjv)

250 They literally cannot process it without it causing them a physiological reaction. When you confront them with it, they lose their shit. Some likely feel physical pain. Does that make me a bad person for enjoying it?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2014 12:24 PM (UjHCx)

251 Gun rights have always been a metaphor for something of absolute urgency: survival.


That gun rights makes great film noir (one could translate as black or dark in English, as negro in Spanish)* is a given.


"SIRROCO"


Humphrey Bogart plays a gun runner for Syrians rebelling against French occupation, tonight 8pm Eastern on FOX Movies! Channel.


/...FOX Television Stations and Weigel Broadcasting have launched a new channel called "MOVIES!" available for free via over-the-air television, a substation of your local FOX network station.


Film Noir (literally 'black film or cinema') was coined in 1946 by French film critic Nino Frank who noticed the trend of how 'dark, downbeat and black' the shadowy, psychologically loaded cycle of crime movies were that flourished in Hollywood from World War II through the 1950s.

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 25, 2014 12:25 PM (/vO0r)

252 The Hartford Courant paper wants the State to use the "secret" firearms database to arrest and prosecute every single one of them. It is going to be very ugly in the near future.

Of course they do.  Pit Alpha against Alpha.  Meanwhile, the Beta sneaks behind, takes the food, and impregnates the women.




Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 12:25 PM (/29Nl)

253 The Hartford Courant paper wants the State to use the "secret" firearms database to arrest and prosecute every single one of them. It is going to be very ugly in the near future. Posted by: Registered Voter at April 25, 2014 04:19 PM (TCFwA) If they don't get some civil disobedience pushback, it's going to get even uglier down the road.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 12:25 PM (bb5+k)

254 247 BOOZE AIN'T FOOD? I'd rather chop off my dingdong than admit that! He's a hoot! But my favorites are the Scandi guitarists and Skwisgaar and Toki. --- My favorite is probably Pickles or Murderface, as the Pickles stuff involving his substance abuse and his old band Snakes And Barrels was great. "Mother douchebags!"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 12:25 PM (APuJ7)

255 That's why it is so strong. They will do anything, think anything, to avoid the pain of their cognitive dissonance. Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 04:22 PM (/29Nl) That goes well with what I said in my last comment. This may actually be an analog to a religion.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 25, 2014 12:25 PM (BZAd3)

256 Does that make me a bad person for enjoying it?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2014 04:24 PM (UjHCx)


It makes you a smart person for doing it.  The more you do it, the more you condition them that the liberal views are what is causing the pain.

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 12:26 PM (/29Nl)

257 Guns N Boobs with Moar Catsuit http://tinyurl.com/lfowd5k

Posted by: kbdabear at April 25, 2014 12:26 PM (aTXUx)

258 The Hartford Courant paper wants the State to use the "secret" firearms database to arrest and prosecute every single one of them. It is going to be very ugly in the near future. --- Wasn't that the paper which published the online map to the gun owners?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 12:26 PM (APuJ7)

259 >>> Pretty much what most Georgians are saying. Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 04:19 PM (L8r/r) We're having a family reunion this summer, and I have a bunch of gun loving cousins, some Georgian, coming out. Am trying to come up with family activities, and was positing if maybe could do a trip out to the county gun range for those that want to go? It would give my lefty cousins the vapors though, but it's not like they have to come.

Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 12:26 PM (yRwC8)

260 http://tinyurl.com/n2hrd6a

Posted by: maddogg at April 25, 2014 12:26 PM (xWW96)

261 Dr. Rockso? heheh

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 12:27 PM (DxThd)

262 Of course they do. Pit Alpha against Alpha. Meanwhile, the Beta sneaks behind, takes the food, and impregnates the women while molesting the Alphas.




Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 04:25 PM (/29Nl)



Just sayin'

Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 12:27 PM (L8r/r)

Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 12:27 PM (L8r/r)

264 Guns N Boobs with Moar Catsuit http://tinyurl.com/lfowd5k Posted by: kbdabear at April 25, 2014 04:26 PM (aTXUx) Oh. My. Sweet. Lord. I can't wait for the Hot Brass Dance.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 12:28 PM (TIIx5)

265 261 Dr. Rockso? heheh --- I DO COCAINE! I do a lotta cocaine...

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 12:28 PM (APuJ7)

266 "do a trip out to the county gun range for those that want to go" Excellent family activity provided no yahoos or idgets among the crowd.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 12:28 PM (gOoFi)

267 It would give my lefty cousins the vapors This seems like a good reason to schedule it. My wife's family has a reunion every 5 years, and next year is it. Among the places in consideration was some fru-fru place in CA. I told my wife, "If that's where the decide, we're not going. I can't take my gun there." It took her a second to figure out I wasn't joking.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 12:28 PM (PYAXX)

268 That's why it is so strong. They will do anything, think anything, to avoid the pain of their cognitive dissonance.
***

And for those who wonder why the Left is in full meltdown Rage Mode now...?

This.

The Left is never angrier than when they're in charge of things and fucking it up right and left with their Grand Ideas that G*ddammit Will Work This Time..

Posted by: B at April 25, 2014 12:28 PM (Pson9)

269 But what you said initially was "being born into a family" NOT (as I recall, and I'm too lazy to go look) "being born inside a family's house." And that metaphor (being born into a family) doesn't work for the Naturalization question. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 04:23 PM (PYAXX) Message #137 Starting with the foolish notion that you only have to be born in the family home to be a member of the family, rather than having to go through an official adoption process." Control "F" is your friend.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 12:28 PM (bb5+k)

270 Because the M-79 is attached to my schvantz.

What do you do if there is more than 4 hours of zombies?

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 25, 2014 12:28 PM (DL2i+)

271 Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 04:26 PM (yRwC


Make it a competition!

Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 12:29 PM (L8r/r)

272 Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 04:28 PM (bb5+k) I said I was too lazy.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 25, 2014 12:29 PM (PYAXX)

273 Yeah, the tools of Totalitarianism are getting better. Both by the government and by the little hitlers and zealot neighbors and co-workers.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 12:29 PM (ZPrif)

274 THERE WAS ANOTHER SPIDER IN THE BATHROOM. Fuck this day in particular.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 25, 2014 12:30 PM (mf5HN)

275 Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 04:27 PM (L8r/r)


They actually avoid true Alphas like the plague.  I don't mean the assholes who wear expensive suits, treat everyone like shit, and think they own the world for pushing around some virtual dollar signs.

I mean people who can protect themselves and ensure their own survival.  They stay right the fuck away, preferring to send other Alphas to do their dirty work.

Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 12:30 PM (/29Nl)

276 "THERE WAS ANOTHER SPIDER IN THE BATHROOM. " Arachnophobia......?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 12:30 PM (gOoFi)

277 274 THERE WAS ANOTHER SPIDER IN THE BATHROOM. Fuck this day in particular. --- You'd think this wouldn't be such a problems with those giant stompy boots you wear.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 25, 2014 12:31 PM (APuJ7)

278 It is why i call it "Liberal-Regressivism". It is a return to the days of anarchy under the guise of populism.

It's the new and shiny slavery.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2014 12:32 PM (amBbh)

279 "do a trip out to the county gun range for those that want to go" Excellent family activity provided no yahoos or idgets among the crowd. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2014 04:28 PM (gOoFi) We just started this on a small scale for Thanksgiving. Great fun shooting with family in a dry creekbed on one of my BiL's properties.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2014 12:32 PM (TIIx5)

280 Nood....Wolfcop

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 12:32 PM (ojnk6)

281

>>Wasn't that the paper which published the online map to the gun owners?

.

.

.No that was a New York paper. 

 

>>If they don't get some civil disobedience pushback, it's going to get even uglier down the road. 

.

.

.I would say they already got a big civil disobedience pushback by over a quarter million residents refusing to comply with the new State laws.  That is huge in my book.   And it has scared the crap out of the politicians in Hartford.  They gave an order and fully expected everyone to meekly run down and comply, and it did not happen.  They are $hitting bricks right now.  Scared people usually make very bad decisions.

Posted by: Registered Voter at April 25, 2014 12:32 PM (TCFwA)

282 These people are collectively conditioning themselves to view the world in a way other than what it is. That is really pretty profound. Think about this: Half, or nearly so, of the people are potentially 'living' in a world where much of their reality is not shared with the other half. Imagine how much blind faith that takes. Imagine what one might believe if told that was what they were supposed to believe. I'm freaking myself out. (no pot - I swear) I'm am so grateful it's Friday. See you all in ~36 hrs.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 25, 2014 12:33 PM (BZAd3)

283 274 >>> THERE WAS ANOTHER SPIDER IN THE BATHROOM. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 25, 2014 04:30 PM (mf5HN) Had one on my counter the other day, where I put out my food. *shivers* I love spring, all the new baby animals coming out of the woodwork...except for the eight legged kind, they can DIAF. The Box Elder Bugs by the hundreds are annoying, but do not give me heebie jeebies.

Posted by: LizLem at April 25, 2014 12:33 PM (yRwC8)

284 >>Guns N Boobs with Moar Catsuit <<

kaboom!

Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2014 12:33 PM (amBbh)

285 Posted by: grognard at April 25, 2014 04:30 PM (/29Nl)


I was just questioning the "impregnating the females" part.  I'm not convinced that most of them, even with the Alphas otherwise engaged (thus eliminating competition) would act upon the availability of females.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 25, 2014 12:34 PM (L8r/r)

286 274 THERE WAS ANOTHER SPIDER IN THE BATHROOM. Fuck this day in particular. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 25, 2014 04:30 PM (mf5HN) *quickly looks around for food* All I gots is Pringles.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 25, 2014 12:35 PM (oFCZn)

287 So much of the left's obsession with guns is simply that they hate the conservative culture that surrounds it. 

How many NRA members are involved in violent crime vs inner city Obama voters?  It's not even close, it has absolutely nothing to do with crime or child safety.  If that was really all this was about, how about focusing on Chicago instead of some rural town allowing people to carry guns.

 It's purely "us vs them" and they don't like the fact that in the back of their minds, they know if they push too far, our side has the means to put them down once and for all.

Posted by: McAdams at April 25, 2014 12:37 PM (Wmqc5)

288 This Piers Morgan guy, if he doesn't particularly care for a right that is enshrined in the U.S. Constitution, he needs to just get the fuck out of here and go somewhere else.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 25, 2014 12:37 PM (jOKH1)

289 >>Why does anyone need *two* guns? <<

Really.  Only owning two should be a crime. A person should have at least four.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2014 12:38 PM (amBbh)

290 But something has changed-- there is an insistence now, like never before, that those who dispute the consensus culture of the New Class -- which dominates our media and idea-propagating institutions -- must adapt or die.

I guess I'll take death then.

Leftism, Socialism, Social Leftism, whatever they want to call themselves, the truth is unavoidable. They are The World. They are The Wide And Easy Path. They are Satan's Kingdom.

And they have nothing of any lasting value to offer in return for bowing to them.

Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 12:39 PM (hO9ad)

291 The whole microaggression crap is about creating social norms based on unconscious consequences of personal choice. Once you return to arguing personal choice has unconscious consequences that must be restrained by social norms, you're thinking like Mather Cotton.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 25, 2014 12:39 PM (5xmd7)

292 Joe McCarthy may have been loud and crude, but as history has proven he wasn't wrong. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2014 04:10 PM (CMkNk) No, he was dead on.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 12:41 PM (x3YFz)

293 >>Why does anyone need *two* guns? << Really. Only owning two should be a crime. A person should have at least four. Posted by: Marcus T at April 25, 2014 04:38 PM (amBbh) LOL... you guys should have seen my armory before the baoting incident.

Posted by: tangonine at April 25, 2014 12:42 PM (x3YFz)

294 287 So much of the left's obsession with guns is simply that they hate the conservative culture that surrounds it. McAdams

That, and they are the people who shoot themselves in the foot and worse whenever they imagine picking up a firearm.

They've played so many killing games, there's huge psychological disconnect given their recreational behavior when killing is for fun, no care in the world that they just 'sploded life to smitherines, and reality when defending your life is the matter at hand but under NO CIRCUMSTANCE may you have, let alone use, a firearm legally in self defense.

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 25, 2014 12:42 PM (/vO0r)

295 Sarah Palin will speak at the NRA Convention's "Stand And Fight Rally" at 7PM Saturday

Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2014 12:43 PM (JBggj)

296 Whether you view McCarthyism as a freedom-crushing outrage or as a sound tactic for bringing dissidents into conformity will often (sadly) turn on whether or not you feel you have the power to employ McCarthyite tactics fruitfully, or if those tactics are likely to be used mostly against you -- whether you believe The Mob is with you, or against you. --------------- Neither of the above. Blacklisted by History. Good read.

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at April 25, 2014 12:50 PM (Is5ND)

297 Only Wolfcops should be allowed to carry a gun

Posted by: Piers Morgan at April 25, 2014 12:50 PM (aTXUx)

298

Yep.... it is not longer OK that you Tolerate the Gay Culture.... now you must Support, Advance, and Celebrate it.... or be cast out...

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 25, 2014 03:52 PM (84gbM)

 

You forgot "Partake in" (or is that part of "Celebrate"?).

Posted by: steveegg at April 25, 2014 12:56 PM (o44nj)

299 Have you read about this BLM standoff yet? http://bit.ly/1jNiFWv It's an interesting thing. Back in the 70s, lefties were up in arms about the government's treatment of Indians. Now, not so much. And we don't dare talk about blacks as wards of the government.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 25, 2014 12:56 PM (Lqy/e)

300 Oregon throws in the towel, can't fix it's healthcare plan, gives up.


Perhaps they need more electricity to their computers. IYKWIMAITTYD

Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] An Observation at April 25, 2014 12:59 PM (ylhEn)

301 "But the New Class is feeling its oats now"

So's when's the last time anyone here's seen a "Question Authority" bumper sticker. I'm guessing about five years. AMIRITE?

Posted by: Ronsonic at April 25, 2014 01:02 PM (iE9fp)

302 "Who will stop these assassins?" The same people who are always called for when bad things happen. The good people with guns. FYI, Piers: yesterday 89,999,973 gun owners DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG. Lucky for you they have such restraint...

Posted by: Drumwaster at April 25, 2014 01:02 PM (K6BSx)

303 THERE WAS ANOTHER SPIDER IN THE BATHROOM.

Fuck this day in particular.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 25, 2014 04:30 PM (mf5HN)


All of you ladies do realize that a toilet seat left down is a very good hiding place for a spider - right?


Ever since I sat down on a toilet seat with a small snake underneath it (yes in my bathroom) I have rather been partial to leaving mine up when not in use.



Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] An Observation at April 25, 2014 01:09 PM (ylhEn)

304 I would vote for any party that would run LaPierre / Carson (or a reasonably similar substitute) in 2016.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 25, 2014 01:11 PM (jYxCp)

305

Dr. Carson has a poor level of support for the 2nd Amendment.  He's a total squish in the subject, and is rather unknowledgeable about guns, and the principles in support thereof.

 

 

Until he comes up to par on those matters, he is a political non-starter in my book.

 

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 25, 2014 01:43 PM (vvk2F)

306 We can live with liberals, but liberals can't seem to live with us. I think that it's because, now that liberal Grand Ideas are being implemented and failing, liberals are incapable of concluding that their ideas are the cause of that failure. Failure must, therefore, be caused by some outside influence, the "spoilers" and saboteurs who wreck their Grand Ideas. The obvious solution is to eliminate those negating influences, and then, **THEN**, their ideas WILL work. Because their psyche simply will not bear the alternative.

Posted by: Socratease at April 25, 2014 01:45 PM (82qVG)

307 I oppose mandatory concealed carry laws btw. States are free to define justifiable homicide as they see fit; they are free to differ on what constitutes justifiable homicide; and they are free to opt for open carry instead of concealed carry as a "well-regulated" means of personal defense in their jurisdiction.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 25, 2014 02:26 PM (5xmd7)

308 I'm positive somebody said this already, but I'm in a hurry, dammit.

"Yeah, a metaphor for something larger - like your PENIS!"

Which really doesn't make sense, which is why I am betting SERIOUS MONEY that lefty panty-boys desperately clinging to their onesies have already posted it. Somewhere.

Takers? Gotta run.

Posted by: rick at April 25, 2014 02:42 PM (snYrg)

309 43 Cars are also essential to freedom. (Someone over at Volokh made a great case for this.) And look at the war on driving occurring via attempts to raise the gasoline price and what not. ----- Cars and guns are two things that just drive the progs crazy. SO very sick of hearing coworkers bash the commuter lifestyle, even as they live in the burbs and make great use of the freedom of car travel to get that high-paying job that affords the house with yard and garage. They hate that guns and automobiles mean freedom of association, freedom from want, and freedom of speech.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at April 25, 2014 03:31 PM (QBm1P)

310 Gun control has always been premised on the belief that average Americans are not competent. Apply that premise across the board and you have today's Progressive movement.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at April 26, 2014 04:38 PM (UYiBe)

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