March 29, 2014

Gardening Thread
— Open Blogger

It seems that Y-not had a situation come up and had to rush out of town, so I’m flying solo this week. Last week someone requested pests. Well, they requested we talk about pests, the other way doesn’t make much sense. I once had someone come up to me in a mall and ask if I wanted to make a donation “for childhood cancer”. I told her with a straight face that I didn’t support childhood cancer and walked off. By the look she gave me she didn’t get it. Oh well, the following year I shaved my head for St. Baldricks because those folks are fighting childhood cancer, and THAT’S a cause I support.

Bugs

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Bugs is primarily a problem if you plant carrots. Once you get a Bugs infestation, itÂ’s almost impossible to get rid of. Shotguns donÂ’t work because this pest is equipped with a pellet proof finger. Attempting to shoot Bugs usually results in you looking like this:

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If you happen to be a duck, your beak will likely spin around your head several times as well. The Acme company makes an extensive line of products that seem like they could help eradicate Bugs, but extensive experimentation on Bugs and also on avian pests has shown that all of them are useless. The Commerce Dept. is currently investigating Acme for fraud, but the DOJ is not cooperating so for the time being Acme is still in business manufacturing faulty products and coincidentally IÂ’m sure donating large sums of money to OFA. There is actually only one proven method for getting rid of Bugs, and itÂ’s not for the faint of heart. Basically, what you have to do is lure him away by dressing in one of these:

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Squirrels

Squirrels can definitely be pests, although they are more likely to go after your birdfeeder than your garden. Still, mentioning them gives me an excuse to post this video:

Deer

There are really only 3 proper ways to deal with deer, and we all know it.

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IsnÂ’t it a damn shame we donÂ’t live in a country where we can freely utilize these tools on deer whenever they threaten our gardens? Actually, IÂ’d like to hear what everyoneÂ’s best ideas for repelling deer are. I have a herd of 8-10 that regularly walk by my backyard not 40 feet from the house, and IÂ’m worried that they may come down to dine once my garden takes off.

This week I actually did some gardening type stuff, building raised beds and planting seeds, IÂ’ll try to have pictures of the project next week. ThatÂ’s about it for today, sorry itÂ’s short but itÂ’s late and I have to get up hella early tomorrow to go to a gun show outside Philly. Before I go, there is one final pest that you should definitely watch out for:

[image redacted. Test audience projectile vomited]

From CBS News: Gardening apps are a thing! And some of them seem to be useful, and might even get us non-gardeners out into the muck-strewn wastelands that are our yards.


National Cherry Blossom Festival is March 20 - April 13, 2014 but the weather has not been cooperating.

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Latest forecast for peak bloom is now April 10

A model developed by researchers at the University of Washington in Seattle predicts the District cherry trees will bloom on April 10. According to this model, in early winter months, the trees’ life cycles pause during a period called dormancy. Cold temperatures trigger the trees to “wake up.” The colder it is, the earlier this happens. After the trees “wake up,” warm temperatures trigger them to bloom. The warmer it is later in the winter and early spring, the earlier the tree will blossom.

Did George Washington really chop down a Cherry tree?*

*Probably not. The story was invented by Parson Mason Weems who wrote a biography of George Washington shortly after WashingtonÂ’s death. Since so little is known about WashingtonÂ’s childhood, Weems invented several anecdotes about WashingtonÂ’s early life to illustrate the origins of the heroic qualities Washington exhibited as an adult. Introduced to countless schoolchildren as a moral tale in the McGuffey Reader textbook, the parable has become a persistent part of American mythology.

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1 First!

Posted by: EC at March 29, 2014 01:01 PM (doBIb)

2 Where is everyone?

Posted by: EC at March 29, 2014 01:02 PM (doBIb)

3 Is this the goat stimulator thread?

Posted by: Enquiring Minds at March 29, 2014 01:02 PM (UcA5R)

4 Had a friend of ours in Bel Air shave his head this year for the same outfit.

Hey, can 15 year olds be considered pests?

Askin' for a friend

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 29, 2014 01:02 PM (si68n)

5 Ladybugs are your friend.

Posted by: eman at March 29, 2014 01:03 PM (AO9UG)

6 In the a Garden Simulator you can ride a growing carrot.

Posted by: eman at March 29, 2014 01:05 PM (AO9UG)

7 I'm hoping that the colder weather this year has killed off a lot of the bugs.

Posted by: wheatie at March 29, 2014 01:08 PM (m7/Sn)

8 I don't begin my rose garden chores until Patriot's Day here in Massachusetts. It has to be after forsythia bloom in your area before you begin.

Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2014 01:08 PM (gjOCp)

9 Tumble weeds rolling by, saloon doors banging in the wind.

Posted by: eman at March 29, 2014 01:08 PM (AO9UG)

10 I prefer a more 'Eco-friendly' method for controlling deer. The re-introduction of mountain lions, pumas, cougars. I understand that on this vulgar right-wing site, that last reference will prompt off-color responses.

Posted by: Lefty Eco-nut at March 29, 2014 01:09 PM (aDwsi)

11 Squirrels eat my zucchini blossoms. And, if one gets to grow to be an actual eatable squash, they dash my dreams and nibble enough to stop me from picking it. I'm thinking greenhouse.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 29, 2014 01:12 PM (IXrOn)

12

In the garden, Angry Orchard hard cider is my friend.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 29, 2014 01:12 PM (9ek7+)

13 We have a bunny hanging around our place, hiding under decks and such. Saw it again last evening.

Posted by: fluffy at March 29, 2014 01:12 PM (Ua6T/)

14

Just took a break from gardening and popped in here.

Amaryllis is blooming. Nastursiums are going strong. Clivia has a few blooms. DAMN Cymbiduim that I re-potted is not spiking for the second year in a row. Chinese ground orchids are about halfway through blooming. Next up is Tiger Lillies, already budding then Stargazer lillies. Gladioulas are healthy, probably bloom in one month. My Alyogeny which was about 6 years old just all the sudden died ?? WTF ? Red Hibiscus is blooming really good right now. Problem children are a Gardenia that has sooty mold, some yellow leaves on my Sago palm and plenty of weeds to pull. Hawthornes need trimmed and Canna lillies need cut back. Callas are still blooming...shit I better get back to work !

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 29, 2014 01:13 PM (uOV6o)

15

11>> "I'm thinking greenhouse"

 

I'm thinking pellet gun and hibachi. 

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 29, 2014 01:14 PM (9ek7+)

16 What's up doc?

Retirement, that's what's up.

Posted by: post-Obamacare MD at March 29, 2014 01:15 PM (kFxpe)

17 We have lots of rabbits here. Had one give birth right in the middle of the back yard last year. She had 3. Me and my daughter fought hard to see them survive. Sadly we lost one but we think the other 2 made it. I hate to do anything to them.. they are cute and since we have a pet lop ear bunny I have a soft spot. Surprisingly they haven't done any damage to my garden.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 01:15 PM (/IQip)

18 13 We have a bunny hanging around our place, hiding under decks and such. Saw it again last evening. Posted by: fluffy at March 29, 2014 05:12 PM (Ua6T/) It's your nic....word has gotten out.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 29, 2014 01:16 PM (bCEmE)

19 When I say sadly we lost one I mean that I stepped on the poor little thing. Was going out to check the nest and he must have gotten out and I didn't see him

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 01:17 PM (/IQip)

20 DUCK SEASON!!!

Posted by: Daffy Duck at March 29, 2014 01:17 PM (OLxY8)

21 In the a Garden Simulator you can ride a growing carrot.

Posted by: eman at March 29, 2014 05:05 PM (AO9UG)



what's the web-address for that stimulator?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 29, 2014 01:17 PM (kFxpe)

22 I'm thinking greenhouse" I'm thinking pellet gun and hibachi. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 29, 2014 05:14 PM (9ek7+) I have a SuperSoaker if that counts. But, I just can't keep up. Especially overnight with the raccoons, groundhogs, and bunnies. The bunnies eat my herbs (caught one once), the squirrels, squash blossoms, and I don't know what is taking bites out of my Big Boy tomatoes (or other larger ones - they don't touch the smaller ones like roma or the cherry, or smaller). Too many animals to keep up with. And, cats. Peeing in my garden beds.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 29, 2014 01:17 PM (IXrOn)

23 Bunnies mow through my landscape like Nazis on a field trip through Poland.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 29, 2014 01:18 PM (OLxY8)

24 Chipmunks evidently like living under my Lilac trees. Grr..

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 29, 2014 01:20 PM (IXrOn)

25 And, cats. Peeing in my garden beds.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 29, 2014 05:17 PM (IXrOn)

 

they make motion activated sprinklers, maybe that would help

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 29, 2014 01:20 PM (uOV6o)

26 green digit morons, Any have advice on hanging tomato plants? I bought a largish planter(30x12x12 or so) I plan to hang on the side of the house, but I have never done this before. My plan is to put some 3/4" holes in the bottom, and some foam gasket material on top of that (made out of the interlocking mats from the dollar store) with a smaller hole and slit to get the plant in. Then i will stick two or three tomato plants through the holes and fill it with dirt using lots of peat to hold water. I was also going to put basil on the top. sound OK? I i know i have to water often, but my concern is that the damn things will die on me like everything else seems to be lately.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 29, 2014 01:22 PM (LWu6U)

27 Any have advice on hanging tomato plants?


A very small noose?

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 29, 2014 01:23 PM (OLxY8)

28 It's your nic....word has gotten out.
They're lucky the cats didn't get out. The Little Grey Bastid used our bird feeder as a cafeteria when he lived outside.

Posted by: fluffy at March 29, 2014 01:23 PM (Ua6T/)

29 27 Any have advice on hanging tomato plants? ---------------------- A very small noose? Posted by: Joe Biden at March 29, 2014 05:23 PM (OLxY Shut it down. Thread winner.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 29, 2014 01:25 PM (GEICT)

30 14 - I hate you.

Posted by: Chronic Brown Thumb at March 29, 2014 01:25 PM (aDwsi)

31 No live for white-tail deer here. Venison, yes; white-tail deer, no.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 29, 2014 01:25 PM (HsTG8)

32 lol @27

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 01:25 PM (/IQip)

33 Byte me, iPhone autocorrect.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 29, 2014 01:25 PM (HsTG8)

34 20 DUCK SEASON!!!

Posted by: Daffy Duck at March 29, 2014 05:17 PM (OLxY

++++

Agreed!

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at March 29, 2014 01:27 PM (IN7k+)

35 As for deer, rabbit, varmint, etc. Go to costco and buy large container of cyan pepper. (or anything hot) sprinkle around after each rainfall, paying special attention to perimeter. It doesn't take a lot, and although i do it regularly at first, later in the year they animals know to keep away and you can slack off without a problem.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 29, 2014 01:27 PM (LWu6U)

36
    No garden this year.  All done with the salad bar for the wildlife.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 29, 2014 01:30 PM (SAMxH)

37 Squirrels are hell on my tomatoes...they wait for them to become perfectly ripe, take one bite and move on. I love the launcher...

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 01:30 PM (ahBY0)

38 There is also a spray you can get that you spray around the garden. Smells awful but after about an hour it's not too bad. Seems to work.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 01:31 PM (/IQip)

39 >>>When I say sadly we lost one I mean that I stepped on the poor little thing. Was going out to check the nest and he must have gotten out and I didn't see him

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 05:17 PM (/IQip)<<<



I hate when that happens.

Posted by: Godzilla at March 29, 2014 01:31 PM (08jH8)

40 You're killing me here.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 01:34 PM (/IQip)

41 Squirrels. Rats with fuzzy tails. Chipmunks..ruined all my spring bulbs one year. They didn't even have the good manners to eat the whole bulbs. Just dug them up and took a bite or two and moved on to the next one. Little bastards.

Posted by: Tuna at March 29, 2014 01:34 PM (M/TDA)

42 Sorry for the sparse thread all, had a lot going on. Also, some if the pics are different ( I had a female bunny suit! I guess in this thread's universe Bugs is gay). I also am posting under protest for my missing final pic. ;-)

Posted by: Weirddave at March 29, 2014 01:35 PM (N/cFh)

43 Backyards can be funny places for pests...squirrels, rabbits, and the wandering black face negro Ted Danson will eat my tomatoes, my potatoes, and occasionally my ass but mostly my ass. That is why God invented center fire cartridges...7.62 x 54 works well.

Posted by: IrishEd at March 29, 2014 01:35 PM (bfm04)

44 Squirrels are hell on my tomatoes...they wait for them to become perfectly ripe, take one bite and move on. I love the launcher... Posted by: dumbartist ------------ Chipmunks..ruined all my spring bulbs one year. They didn't even have the good manners to eat the whole bulbs. Just dug them up and took a bite or two and moved on to the next one. Little bastards. Posted by: Tuna ------------- Statistics show that 99% of rodents are registered Democrats.

Posted by: Chronic Brown Thumb at March 29, 2014 01:36 PM (aDwsi)

45 I've got some serious bird on squirrel action going on in my backyard. The feeder dumps more seeds than it holds, so it has become a two-tier system with species competing for the easiest access. Sometimes bird chases off squirrel, sometimes vice versa. I really need to get a TV out here.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 01:37 PM (ZshNr)

46 Squirrels (cute rats) are a menace. They take a bite out of this and a bite out of that and dig up tilled soil to bury their various flotsom. I shoot them with a .22 pellet or a 22LR and make stew. The problem with the national cherry blossom festival is having to cross over to the east side of the Mississippi and enter the district of criminals. No way Jose.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at March 29, 2014 01:38 PM (hpgw1)

47 We have rabbits, too.  Cottontails...super cute, dog loves to chase them.  (Also, they're so soft and chewy and they squeeeeek the way she likes--oh, dear!) 

Chickenwire.  Lots of chickenwire, 'cause there's no getting rid of them at the edge of town. 

Doggy and the squirrels have a perpetual game going on--it's fun to watch them play (unless they, too, get caught and turned into squeak-toys). 

Yes, we keep her shots/meds current!

Posted by: JeanQ at March 29, 2014 01:39 PM (82lr7)

48 Bevy of bunnies: http://www.guysnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Playboy-Bunnies_low-res.jpg

Posted by: Chronic Brown Thumb at March 29, 2014 01:39 PM (aDwsi)

49 44...that's why I also love my pellet rifle...for target practice only of course.

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 01:39 PM (ahBY0)

50
   I wouldn't object too strenuously to the wildlife depredation,if we had the same set up as our prior home. If Bambi and buddies got too carried away, they wound up on the dinner table.

   Can't do that here, dammit.


  

Posted by: irongrampa at March 29, 2014 01:40 PM (SAMxH)

51 42 Sorry for the sparse thread all, had a lot going on. Also, some if the pics are different ( I had a female bunny suit! I guess in this thread's universe Bugs is gay). I also am posting under protest for my missing final pic. ;-)

Posted by: Weirddave at March 29, 2014 05:35 PM (N/cFh)

++++

You could post a link in the comments so that the curious could find out what we missed out on. Also, what was the pic that got redacted?

[image redacted. Test audience projectile vomited]

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at March 29, 2014 01:40 PM (IN7k+)

52 /sock

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 29, 2014 01:40 PM (IN7k+)

53 Squirrels in the bird feeder? Big deal. Try dealing with bears.

Posted by: Chronic Brown Thumb at March 29, 2014 01:41 PM (aDwsi)

54 I was thinking of getting a BB/Air gun, but everything I see at Amazon is either plastic throughout or about as pricey as a real gun. Anyone know of a good one? I'd prefer no canisters, just pump-action-handle or whatever they call it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 01:41 PM (ZshNr)

55 No worries wierddave.  I can't keep the fkn neighbor cats out of my flower beds or garden.  Can't shoot em in city limits.  Even moth balls don't work anymore.

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2014 01:42 PM (IFebu)

56 Y-not had to run out suddenly? Hopefully it's to get me some beer and a sandwich. Seriously, hopefully nothing bad happened.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 01:43 PM (oFCZn)

57 I can't beat bears, I've never seen one in the wild, despite living/fishing/hiking/Army-ing in "their territory" a million times. Of course my friends who've never spent a day without cable go to Vermont and watch an entire bear family from the highway for 15 minutes. We do have a recurring coyote issue. One was lying in the middle of an unused pasture the other morning, presumably waiting for the deer to come out.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 01:45 PM (ZshNr)

58 @55 Infidel, cats don't like to walk on spikey things. The Gardener's Supply Company makes strips of spikes to put down where the cats dig. I don't know if you have tried anything like that, but it might work. I know my cat was sensitive about what his feet touched.

Posted by: SnowyBits at March 29, 2014 01:48 PM (v0WsZ)

59 A good pellet gun can run as much as a cheap .22 or so ven more. I paid close to $200 for my barrel-break Gamo, but it's pretty badass & I love it. I like my $50 Crossman pistol. It's a pump-up like we had as kids, only in handgun version. Long barrel, so pretty accurate. I've plinked squirrels outside of 100' with it. it's called "American Classic" - model 1377.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 29, 2014 01:49 PM (Z4UvQ)

60 That's great idea Snowy.. would think it would work on other pests also.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 01:50 PM (/IQip)

61 54...I picked up the Ruger Blackhawk on Amazon for around $100. Granted, the scope is useless but the thing shoots pretty straight. I also picked up a .22 pellet rifle from a guy in Iowa who tweaks them from the factory. Xisico is the name, from China of course and it turns out Ruger puts their name on the same ones for their line. I'm happy with both, especially the one he tweaked, but they're not competition grade.

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 01:50 PM (ahBY0)

62 On the deer repellent problem: I read once (can't remember the source, sorry) that since deer are afraid of carnivores you can have yourself a nice steak dinner and then... ah... mark your territory. In theory it should work. I hope that helps.

Posted by: Jafo at March 29, 2014 01:51 PM (FIvA6)

63 My mild (and unoriginal, as I got this link from an ONT I think) contribution to his thread -- 10 herbs and stuff you can buy once and grow forever from:
 
http://tinyurl.com/ob69vud
 
Stuff like romaine lettuce, onions, cilantro, and the one I'm currently trying -- scallions (aka green onions). It's only been a couple of days, but there has been some progress. The best part is no bending over and grubbing in the dirt and pulling weeds and chasing off bunnies and insects and cats. Windowsills FTW.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 29, 2014 01:51 PM (cHZB7)

64 Nothing beats the taste of azalea-fed venison!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 29, 2014 01:53 PM (o3MSL)

65 Don't you see, obama's gift of seeds to Pope F was totes metaphorical. A new beginning for the Catholic church, thanks to obama.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 01:53 PM (EoeFV)

66 Oh, John The RabbitTraditional Song

Oh, John the rabbit, oh yes!
Oh, John the rabbit, oh yes!
Got a mighty bad habit, oh yes!
Of goin' to my garden, oh yes!
And eatin' all my peas, oh yes!
And cuttin' down my cabbage, oh yes!
He ate tomatoes, oh yes!
And sweet potatoes, oh yes!
And if I live, oh yes!
To see next fall, oh yes!
I won't have, oh yes!
A garden at all, oh yes!
OH, NO!

Posted by: Jenk at March 29, 2014 01:54 PM (e2ysZ)

67 Thanks snowy, I will check it out!

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2014 01:54 PM (IFebu)

68 Just read a couple reviews of the Crossman 1377. I believe the term "hollow-point spiked pellets" was used more than once. Intriguing. I really don't intend to ever shoot any furry/feathered creature, but there are always snakes, people, etc. who could use a good pelleting.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 01:55 PM (ZshNr)

69 Thanks jewells45. I just remember thinking my cat would have hated those spikes. Unfortunately most of the outdoor cats in the neighborhood have disapeared from the coyotes. We live in an outer ring suburb, but the coyotes have found a good food resource.

We have a rabbit in our yard for the time being. Every few days if I don't see it I worry the coyotes got it.

Posted by: SnowyBits at March 29, 2014 01:55 PM (v0WsZ)

70 That's awesome GnuBreed!! Thank you. I am going to try some of these.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 01:55 PM (/IQip)

71 For those with more curiosity than good sense, I put the redacted pic in my twitter feed. pic.twitter.com/exbTlAeGHA You've been amply warned.

Posted by: Weirddave at March 29, 2014 01:56 PM (N/cFh)

72 Hi horde. Making maple syrup today. Sap us running like crazy. Since trees are involved, I assume this is not OT.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 29, 2014 01:57 PM (dxLXf)

73 OK, I just bought a replacement bare root rose for the one that got destroyed, this one is much better quality (so it won't be stepped on) Also I just fixed a broken gutter extender with some flexihose stuff. It doesn't quite fit together right, (it's lose than I expected) I hope that was the right call.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 29, 2014 01:57 PM (HDwDg)

74 I bought a Crossman pump up pellet gun at Wally World for ~$75.  It finally  quit so I bought another Crossman  barrel break at Wally World for ~$100.  I was happy with the accuracy  of both.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 01:58 PM (puNd6)

75 Your welcome Infidel. I like that catalog, just like this gardening thread. It's a tease to those of us in the north with a foot of snow yet to melt.

Posted by: SnowyBits at March 29, 2014 01:58 PM (v0WsZ)

76 At the end of the top review of the Crossman 1377, customer mentions add-ons that boost fps. What are they, are they really worth it? Going to check out the Ruger-like one now.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 01:59 PM (ZshNr)

77 HAH, I got the tiller out Thursday, raked off the rest of those damn pine needles & cones, and tried to kill myself. I lived, garden is tilled and I beat the rain! Seeds are started in my starter trays, bought 4 5" Better Boy tomato plants, 16 strawberry roots, 2 big bags of potting soil, 4 large plastic window box liners and now I can grow strawberries without weeds. Last year's corn crop entertained the Squirrels and Chipmunks, this year I have a new Gamo silenced pellet rifle, odds are long my entertainment value will pay off shooting at them.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at March 29, 2014 02:00 PM (baiNQ)

78 Weird Dave that was truly disgusting.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 02:00 PM (/IQip)

79 The only thing interesting I bought today was a Rechargeable LED Work Light/Flash Light from ebay for $20...delivered.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 02:00 PM (EoeFV)

80 I guess 7.62x54 works on deer, maybe rabbits (depending on their size), but squirrels?  Wasn't the composting thread a few weeks ago?  Unless, of course, they're tactically organized--then you want a belt-fed delivery system for those cartridges, interlocking fields of fire covering a minefield and CAS.  Of course, by that time you're no longer gardening, are you...?

Posted by: Jenk at March 29, 2014 02:01 PM (e2ysZ)

81 A friend of mine who was a herpetologist at the zoo used to bring home tiger shit to keep everything away from his garden and flowerbeds. Now he makes training videos for the CIA. Go figure.

Posted by: Some guy in the back at March 29, 2014 02:02 PM (HFYjG)

82 Well that oughta do it I would think!

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 02:03 PM (/IQip)

83
pellet gun or wrist rocket good to give the deer a little love double tap.

To protect your garden, make it so they do not have a 3 square foot takeoff or landing place, they will not jump.  You may have to double fence but we did it with fence around beds, and some windmills and wirlygigs to freak them out.  5 years so far so good.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 29, 2014 02:03 PM (0Kobm)

84 76...they offer pellets made of light metal that get them over the speed of sound. They're less accurate than lead and crack like a .22 in case you want it to be neighbor quiet.

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 02:04 PM (ahBY0)

85

lol snowy, still crappy here too.

 

 

Hi horde. Making maple syrup today. Sap us running like crazy. Since trees are involved, I assume this is not OT.

Posted by: Muad'dib at

 

Oh, yummy.  Which remindes me, I need to order some more from Lehman's.

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2014 02:05 PM (IFebu)

86 I had something, probably a skunk, taking dumps near my roses starting on 2011. I went into my neighbor's yard to try to get some of my climbers out of their yards & way & tie to arbor or fence. They have lawn & when I was back in street I smelled something horrible & I couldn't find where it was. It was greenish & on bottom of my sneakers. I have qt. bottle filled with vinegar & another with ammonia. Neither got rid of smell on sneakers. I threw out. For the past two years I go outside with spray bottle of ammonia & look to where there are lots of flies. I spray ammonia on it and/ or them, pick up with old glove & put in ziplock bag before I do anything I believe it has to be a skunk. One time it was very close to a newly planted rose & I missed it. Rose bush died.

Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2014 02:05 PM (gjOCp)

87 If you had to guess, if I hit a mid-sized coyote with a pellet from the Crossman 1377, would he feel it enough to take off running, or would it just piss him off?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 02:06 PM (ZshNr)

88 Carol, are you studying Chinese?

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at March 29, 2014 02:07 PM (/IQip)

89 Time for basketball!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 02:08 PM (oMKp3)

90 Squirrels in the bird feeder? Big deal. Try dealing with bears.
We had one take down our feeder last 4th of July in broad daylight.
I've never seen one in the wild, despite living/fishing/hiking/Army-ing in "their territory" a million times. Of course my friends who've never spent a day without cable go to Vermont and watch an entire bear family from the highway for 15 minutes.
They are extremely shy. I've seen more moose than I have bear.

Posted by: fluffy at March 29, 2014 02:09 PM (Ua6T/)

91 'Stop buggering me.' -- Reggie to Obama Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 29, 2014 02:09 PM (9W+0f)

92 Rabbits and deer are a real pain.

Posted by: Former Marijuana Grower at March 29, 2014 02:10 PM (rdfgg)

93 Lincolnf...look for pellet rifles rated around 1000 fps if you want something quiet with some punch. I don't see the value in the ones that break the sound barrier. I've read where they're not as accurate and if sound is not a problem a .22lr would be a better choice imho.

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 02:12 PM (ahBY0)

94 I bought some Fox urine crystals to keep the rabbits away.  It doesn't work very well.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 02:12 PM (puNd6)

95 The only BB gun on Amazon I see from Xiscio is a wooden 5.5 .22 style rifle. Dirt cheap. The happy reviews make it sound like a steal.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 02:12 PM (ZshNr)

96 Too many animals to keep up with. Watch out for your celery. I've been thinking of an ultraviolet trigger for the camera, since the IR ones don't seem to work

Posted by: Stephanie Harrington at March 29, 2014 02:13 PM (cHwSy)

97 >Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2014 06:05 PM (IFebu) < You have to order it? **shoves quart through phone** Syruping is a moron approved activity, in that you can drink whilst doing it.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 29, 2014 02:14 PM (ZBXhE)

98 Unfortunately, he horse property is technically "within city limits" since they expanded them. So no real guns can be fired without a lot of caterwauling. Not they're often needed, but occasionally you do kind of want to know you have one.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 02:15 PM (ZshNr)

99 Lincolnf...flying dragon air rifles dot org...no spaces...sorry, don't know how to do links cleaner...the guy knows his stuff and if you call you can talk to him, not a robot and he speaks english.

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 02:16 PM (ahBY0)

100 Lincoln, he'd definitely feel it. Ten pumps on this thing is pretty powerful. Like going through a squirrel. Yes, through. There is a variety of pellets available - from flat, rounded, pointed, and yes, hollowpoint. If you just want to tap something and scare it off, probably the flat (wadcutter equivalent? ) tipped pellet would do fine. personally, I got tired of cute rats nesting in my attic year after year & try my best to eradicate them all. I use the he hollowpoint for max damage & quick death.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 29, 2014 02:17 PM (Z4UvQ)

101

You have to order it? **shoves quart through phone**

Be still my heart!  Yes I have to order the good stuff as I reside in the west.

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2014 02:17 PM (IFebu)

102 An interesting non-lethal deterrent I saw for rabbits a few years ago was a sheet metal cat painted matte black with clear green marbles for eyes.  The bunny sees what it thinks is a prowling kitteh and finds someone else's garden for his midnight snack.  Could work for squirrels too, I suppose.  Confuses the Hell out of the neighborhood cats too.  Won't work on anything bigger, though....

Posted by: Jenk at March 29, 2014 02:20 PM (e2ysZ)

103 Thanks, all. Tracking the names the best I can. I am self-limiting myself to stuff on Amazon, because I want to finally order the thing and be done with it, I've searched a hundred times and not added a single bb gun to my Cart. I really like the idea of a pistol as opposed to a long gun, but haven't checked all the suggestions yet.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 02:20 PM (ZshNr)

104 what shredded said...tho I have the one pump break barrel types, don't be fooled by the prices. These things aren't the toys of our yute.

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 02:21 PM (ahBY0)

105 My last trophy with my air rifle was one of those Asian Doves.  They are not native and it seems they drive away the native Mourning Doves.  And they are always cooing. Bastards.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 02:21 PM (puNd6)

106 8 Foot Fence with a Solid Top Rail is the only way to keep the deer out.

Posted by: garrett at March 29, 2014 02:22 PM (37j0O)

107 I'm disgusted. Well, it's kinda like when you wake up at 7AM and see that shot of Scotch sitting on the nightstand and think, 'hey, yeah, may as well' and down it. My wife has decided that Google Shopping Express is worth five bucks a month, and I can't disagree. Google does good things with their money, and horrible things. The things that Eric Schmidt's "foundation" does are mostly evil and I'd like to see him burned alive for all of the enviro-nonsense. But..hey, they do a good product sometimes. I'm conflicted.

Posted by: JEM at March 29, 2014 02:22 PM (o+SC1)

108 @106 - if you want a real solution to the Bambi problem you might want to contact Leland Yee. I think some of his friends can help you out. Nothing says 'lunch' quite like an RPG hitting a twelve-point buck.

Posted by: JEM at March 29, 2014 02:24 PM (o+SC1)

109 Infidel, yep, I do not recall seeing real maple syrup on store shelves when I lived in NM. If you want to buy from a nice family run syrup operation, search on Roth Sugar Bush in Cadott , WI. Wonderful and conservative people.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 29, 2014 02:25 PM (kGDRz)

110

Lincolntf ,

 

Do you want a BB gun or a pellet gun?  Some of the .177 caliber pellet guns will also shoot BBs.  I've never tried it but the instructions say it's possible.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 02:26 PM (puNd6)

111 The distinction is somewhat lost on me. I've had a BB gun before, but not a "pellet" gun.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 02:27 PM (ZshNr)

112 Did someone say they needed someone to take a dump in their yard to keep animals away?

Posted by: Martin Bashir at March 29, 2014 02:28 PM (oFCZn)

113 @111 - BB - round brass thing. Pellet - metal slug that's nominally at least a better fit to the bore.

Posted by: JEM at March 29, 2014 02:29 PM (o+SC1)

114 I think I get it, BB guns only shoot the traditional round ball bearing type rounds and the pellet guns shoot a myriad of shapes/sizes? Or is my shit all retarded?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 02:29 PM (ZshNr)

115 Pellet guns are way more powerful than BB guns.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 02:29 PM (puNd6)

116 @112 - a dump in the MSNBC studios might be more effective.

Posted by: JEM at March 29, 2014 02:29 PM (o+SC1)

117 109 Infidel, yep, I do not recall seeing real maple syrup on store shelves when I lived in NM. If you want to buy from a nice family run syrup operation, search on Roth Sugar Bush in Cadott , WI. Wonderful and conservative people. The four year old grand baby was out tapping trees with her preschool class yesterday. Those Lutherans put them to work early.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 02:30 PM (oMKp3)

118 I used to shoot a .22 cal airgun.  I couldn't find .22 pellets cheaply enough so I bought a container of .20 diameter lead balls sold for making those "slinky" fishing weights, and patched them.  Worked like a charm.

Posted by: Kindletot at March 29, 2014 02:30 PM (LRUgq)

119 By any chance, does "pellet" in this context equate to or often coincide with "gas-canister powered" ? I see so much Airsoft stuff, it's hard to figure out what you can shoot your brother with for fun, and what you can kill small game with.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 02:32 PM (ZshNr)

120

I believe you can buy air rifles/pellet guns all the way up to 50 cal. The smallest caliber air rifle is  .177.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 02:32 PM (puNd6)

121 Hey Grammie! My grand kids love doing that too. I have to carry them from tree to tree because the snow is so deep this year.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 29, 2014 02:33 PM (kGDRz)

122 She said her hands tasted yummy.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 02:33 PM (oMKp3)

123 122 She said her hands tasted yummy. Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 06:33 PM (oMKp3) Lol! That is too cute!

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 29, 2014 02:34 PM (bCEmE)

124 My folks had bunnies eating up their garden until a hawk came along and took care of things. So my advice is to adopt a hawk.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 29, 2014 02:34 PM (V4CBV)

125 @120 - a .50 air rifle? Really? I mean it's conceptually possible, but getting enough pressure to get real muzzle velocity would take serious hardware.

Posted by: JEM at March 29, 2014 02:35 PM (o+SC1)

126 Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2014 06:34 PM (bCEmE) I think it's wonderful when kids get to see where their food really comes from. From God who provides through the earth and through nature, and not just by way of the grocery store.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 02:36 PM (oMKp3)

127

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 29, 2014 06:25 PM (kGDRz)

 

Thank you, bookmarked the site to order later.  ;-)

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2014 02:36 PM (IFebu)

128 I think pretty much any airgun you can buy these days is a "pellet gun." I also think any .177 caliber pellet gun will shoot bbs, too. a copper / steel bb will penetrate skin quicker than a lead pellet. Oh, and HI Carol! So much for staying off the blog, huh?

Posted by: shredded chi at March 29, 2014 02:37 PM (Z4UvQ)

129 I'm no expert, but air rifles can be powered by pump up, barrel break, CO2 canister,  high pressure  air supply (compressor to pump up a  tank on the rifle)  and maybe other ways.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 02:38 PM (puNd6)

130 I think it's wonderful when kids get to see where their food really comes from. From God who provides through the earth and through nature, and not just by way of the grocery store. Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 06:36 PM (oMKp3) It really is....and they have such wonder and curiosity about everything!

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 29, 2014 02:38 PM (bCEmE)

131 Garlic and fennel seed work well on deer. Mix it in just before you stuff it all into a sausage casing. Tasty, very tasty.

Posted by: fairweatherbill deerslayer at March 29, 2014 02:38 PM (MCNO7)

132 Lincolntf...they make pellet guns powered by a co2 cartridge, ones that are filled by compressor and ones that are powered by a spring that is cocked by "breaking" the barrel. The latter are single shot and the simplest.

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 02:39 PM (ahBY0)

133 God hates grocery stores? I better go stock up on frozen burritos and toilet paper!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 02:39 PM (oFCZn)

134 I better go stock up on frozen burritos and toilet paper! Make sure you get the proper burrito / TP ratio. Very important.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 02:41 PM (oMKp3)

135 Dayton leading Florida with 7 to go in the half

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 02:42 PM (oMKp3)

136 On pellet guns-- Benjamin 397 (at crosman dot com) 

Quiet and accurate, not terribly expensive.

Posted by: JeanQ at March 29, 2014 02:42 PM (82lr7)

137 I better go stock up on frozen burritos and toilet paper! Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 06:39 PM (oFCZn) Some Febreeze might be good too.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 29, 2014 02:42 PM (bCEmE)

138 Squirrels in my yard undeterred.   They ignore the cat and even me - until I'm within arm's reach.  The gymnastics they perform to get at the bird feeder are astounding.  Upside down and sideways are de riqueur.  They are bankrupting me.  Firing my .22 rev may be against city ordinances.  HALP

Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 02:43 PM (aUQgu)

139 OK, BBs are round .177 beads.  They generally are steel, and either copper washed or plated.  BB guns have feeding mechanisms that only load round .177 pellets, and often they have a magnetic bolt to hold the pellet while putting it into the "breech". They tend to be pneumatic (pump-up like your Daisy).
Pellet guns tend to be single shots, not always, but they can use a formed pellet that can look like any sort of minie ball, hollow based wad cutter or the like.  Generally the pellet has a skirt of sorts and a narrow waist, the first to increase obturation of propellant pressure and stabilize it in flight like feathers do to an arrow, and the narrow waist to reduce weight. Pellet guns come in two main sizes, .177 and .22 caliber, and can be pump-pressurized, CO2 or spring driven. ( Remember that Col. Moran who tried to shoot Sherlock Holmes had a "spring" gun, so the the spring type can pack some punch. - my dream is for one in 8mm or so)
Airsofts shoot a plastic 6mm bead and use a spring kicker like a potato gun or a battery powered solenoid thing if you have a repeater.  Lower velocity but they do sting and will make cats jump  a couple of feed when you catch them digging up your peas.
Does this help?

Posted by: Kindletot at March 29, 2014 02:44 PM (LRUgq)

140

I woke up early one morning

the earth lay cool and still.

When suddenly a tiny bird

perched on my windowsill.

He sang a song so lovely

So carefree and so gay

That slowly all my troubles

began to  slip away

he sang of far off places

of laughter and of fun

it seemed his very trilling

brought up the morning sun

I stirred beneath the covers

crept slowly out of bed

then gently shut the window

and crushed his fucking head.

 

 

I'm not a morning person . . .

 

Posted by: Infidel at March 29, 2014 02:44 PM (IFebu)

141 NCwoof Cayenne pepper in the bird feeder. Birds don't care, squirrels go running. They eventually learn to avoid the feeder. And put Vaseline on the pole (or line) holding the feeder. Also, buy a pellet gun.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 29, 2014 02:46 PM (df5yj)

142 I am slowly getting blitzed on Lemon Drops. I blame DangerGirl.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 02:47 PM (oMKp3)

143 Keep the muzzle inside the house to reduce the sound of the shot.

Posted by: Read Somewhere at March 29, 2014 02:47 PM (rdfgg)

144 So I go to watch the tournament on CBS and hey presto! guess what it's on TBS. Screw these asshats.

Posted by: eleven at March 29, 2014 02:47 PM (fsLdt)

145 @ 138 - Give the little guys some shock treatment:  http://youtu.be/gIGi1-jOGEo

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 29, 2014 02:48 PM (0AKks)

146 Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 06:43 PM (aUQgu) Try calibris in your revolver....no powder....just primer or double-primer.

Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2014 02:48 PM (j7iSn)

147 Make sure you get the proper burrito / TP ratio. Very important. Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 06:41 PM (oMKp3) Some Febreeze might be good too. Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2014 06:42 PM (bCEmE) Reasons #23,456 and #23,457 why I come here...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 02:48 PM (oFCZn)

148 One more brain-picking moment, if you'll indulge me. The Xisico B1 long gun is a "one pump, one shot" gun, not hard to understand. The Crossman 1377 is what in contrast? Kind of like the BB gun I had years ago, you cranked it up until you lost all accuracy or thought you'd break it,eight or nine pumps on the trigger guard/handle? What do you pump on the pistol?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 02:48 PM (ZshNr)

149 You don't get tbs?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 02:48 PM (oMKp3)

150 Erf Hour! Sign off! For Gaia!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 02:48 PM (HsTG8)

151 Thanks, kindle, you answered my post before I made it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 02:49 PM (ZshNr)

152 Posted by: eleven at March 29, 2014 06:47 PM (fsLdt) Same here....no satellite/cable.

Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2014 02:50 PM (j7iSn)

153 You can watch the games on the internuts. There is a march madness app. Go to NCAA website.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 02:51 PM (oMKp3)

154 The air rifle the Lewis and Clark expedition took along was around .46 caliber.  they used to have a fiberglass copy of it on display at the Lewis and Clark Fort Clatsop museum when I was there with my Scout troop in the 80's, but they took it down and it is now in a back room.  The rangers brought it out and let me handle it when I went back about 5 years ago.  Best part of the trip to Astoria.

***looked it up, it is a Girandoni type air rifle.

Posted by: Kindletot at March 29, 2014 02:52 PM (LRUgq)

155 Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 06:43 PM (aUQgu)

If you can't use firepower, how about trapping?

My xFIL used to trap dozens per week, released them in a park *miles away*

Posted by: JeanQ at March 29, 2014 02:53 PM (82lr7)

156 My backyard is full of mockingbird, jays and dove. We have squirrels too but the only fruit is a black fig tree. The mockingbirds stick mostly to the lantana but the squirrels try to get the bird feeders. A wrist rocket suffices. I have been tempted to take a squirrel and a couple of dove for the grill but the Grumpy Grandma will have none of that.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 29, 2014 02:53 PM (60Vyp)

157 If you had to guess, if I hit a mid-sized coyote with a pellet from the Crossman 1377, would he feel it enough to take off running, or would it just piss him off?
==
IIRC, you can shoot a coyote in NC at any time of the year.  You probably need a valid hunting license, and shooting restrictions (highway and buildings) still apply.  For folks living in rural areas, of course.  Come to think of it, if you're close enough to hit one of those critters with a pellet pistol, you're close enough to puncture a coyote with a crossbow.




Posted by: mrp at March 29, 2014 02:55 PM (JBggj)

158 How does Febreeze work anyhow? Do the Febreeze molecules bind with the odor-causing malefactors and cause them to "salt out" from the air as a solid which can then be cleaned up by vacuuming? Or is Febreeze loaded with something addictive which distracts us so that we do not give a rip how bad things smell? The answer is closer to the former - http://chemistry.about.com/od/cleanerchemistry/f/how-febreze-works.htm Another miracle of seance!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 02:56 PM (HsTG8)

159 Yikes. Florida up by ten with a minute 30 to go in the half.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 02:57 PM (oMKp3)

160 Lincoln, It's a pump-up just like your childhood bb gun. Do a search for Crossman 1377 & you'll see pics of where you pump it. Basically, a short version of my our old bb gun, just more accurate & powerful. I think for your purposes, you'd be more than happy with it or something similar. Now it's time here to hit a Burger King & 7-11.

Posted by: shredded chi at March 29, 2014 02:58 PM (df5yj)

161 Lincolntf...it looks to me like the 1377 is a variable pump just like the one you had as a kid. I believe the barrel breaks to pump it.

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 02:58 PM (ahBY0)

162 Yes, I noticed if I use Febreeze, I'll later see little white 'dust' particles on the furniture.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 02:58 PM (EoeFV)

163 I'm board.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 02:59 PM (EoeFV)

164 I can't imagine Florida will lose this game. Do I hope they lose? Yes. Just not seeing it though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 03:00 PM (oFCZn)

165 Oh man who keeps refilling my drink? I'll never make it to the Wisconsin game at this rate.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 03:00 PM (oMKp3)

166 Florida 38 Dayton 24 At the half

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 03:01 PM (oMKp3)

167 There are two coyotes that have been seen enough we know they live there, I'm sure others pass through, it's parallel to a huge powerline strip that sometimes looks like a herd of buffalo moved through it overnight. We had an old, infirm Shetland, Little Man, pass away a few years ago, the morning before the day he died I pulled into the lot and the larger of the two coyotes was on his hind legs leaning his head into the open half of the stall window. Gunned my engine and drove right at him, he loped off, not all that ruffled. Little Man was on his last legs, so I can't blame the coyote entirely, but I'm sure that panic didn't help.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 03:01 PM (ZshNr)

168 I love my buddy, Bugs Bunny. We used to do a lot of shows together.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 29, 2014 03:03 PM (l0lja)

169 Why do I think that major discoveries in household products could be explained by the inner monologue of, "there I was, snorting a combination of Lithium salts, Chlorobenzine and pulverized shrimp shells when I realized that not only was my mucus now the texture of raw meatloaf, but I couldn't smell and the customary nose-bleed had stopped: at that point I realized something odd was occurring and I needed to do more investigation..."
************************
Oh, and BUNNY!
http://tinyurl.com/mcj964k

Posted by: Kindletot at March 29, 2014 03:03 PM (LRUgq)

170 Lincolntf, go here:

crosman.com/ airguns/pistols/1377C

click on "Downloads (Photos, Manual & EVP)" and choose your unit.

Posted by: JeanQ at March 29, 2014 03:05 PM (82lr7)

171 158 How does Febreeze work anyhow?

It's a pretty remarkable product. Unfortunately the market didn't understand it, so they reissued it as a more-conventional product. What that means is that you can't find it unscented any more, which is irritating.

Another fun fact about other kinds of odor eliminator: a key thing that they do is dull your sense of smell (it's called a "nasal anesthetic"). That eliminates odors, I guess, but it seems like cheating.

Posted by: Splunge at March 29, 2014 03:06 PM (qyomX)

172 Jean, the first sentence at that site was worth the click. "Barking squirrel".

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 03:07 PM (ZshNr)

173 I'd be looking for a crossbow for that coyote if it were my dog...those things are becoming a problem here too. Saw a thing on pbs about coywolves? They claim a cross between wolves and coyote are around as well.

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 03:07 PM (ahBY0)

174 oh good, my Excise Tax is due on Monday

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 03:09 PM (EoeFV)

175 I don't know how many other states have this, but a MA excise tax is a local tax imposed upon vehicles owned. A sort of sales tax based on the vehicle's assessed value. Every year.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 03:11 PM (EoeFV)

176 175 I don't know how many other states have this, but a MA excise tax is a local tax imposed upon vehicles owned. A sort of sales tax based on the vehicle's assessed value. Every year. Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 07:11 PM (EoeFV) What?? That stinks.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 03:12 PM (oMKp3)

177 175 I don't know how many other states have this, but a MA excise tax is a local tax imposed upon vehicles owned. A sort of sales tax based on the vehicle's assessed value. Every year. Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 07:11 PM (EoeFV) I think it's known in other states as a vehicle property tax.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 29, 2014 03:12 PM (bCEmE)

178 Virginia has a similar annual tax on vehicles, or did when I lived there and can't imagine they got rid of a revenue stream.

Posted by: Retread at March 29, 2014 03:14 PM (cHwk5)

179 I think it's known in other states as a vehicle property tax.

Shhhhhh!!

Don't give my state any ideas!

Posted by: JeanQ at March 29, 2014 03:15 PM (82lr7)

180 Pests? No pictures of Sheila Jackson Lee, Alan Grayson, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Chuck "The Schmuck" Shumer, Senator Smalley, Dingy Hairy? ... not even Kos?

Posted by: Arbalest at March 29, 2014 03:15 PM (FlRtG)

181 At a certain point your vehicle's value stop depreciating, too. Really. It can be a 20 yr old piece of crap worth $500, but the assessed value might be $2800...forever.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 03:15 PM (EoeFV)

182 Six wire electric fence on 8' posts ... worked pretty well around my grapes. Shorter than that, when I let grass grow up, deer got in, then they'd just duck through it and didn't seem to care, though that was a drought year too. Dry ground means they aren't well grounded, so shock barely penetrates their fur. Put your bare knee down in wet ground and touch the wire and you will experience the difference. An unknown entity will involuntarily grunt from deep within.

Posted by: Illini Bill at March 29, 2014 03:16 PM (QJ7KL)

183 I finished working on our taxes earlier today. Let me just say it's way past time for another tea party revolution . It's beyond ridiculous.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 03:16 PM (oMKp3)

184 146  James

Tell me more.  I'm ignant about powder, etc.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 03:17 PM (aUQgu)

185 ... not even Kos? Posted by: Arbalest at March 29, 2014 07:15 PM (FlRtG) Remember that Ned Lamont ad with that douche Moulitsas in it? Most people would watch it now and go wtf? I can't imagine what someone seeing it in 50 years would make of it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 03:17 PM (oFCZn)

186 This is why it's impossible to "go Galt." You can go Amish more easily than going Galt. If I don't pay this tax, I can't register and insure my car next time they expire.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 03:18 PM (EoeFV)

187 At a certain point your vehicle's value stop depreciating, too. Really. It can be a 20 yr old piece of crap worth $500, but the assessed value might be $2800...forever. Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 07:15 PM (EoeFV) Yup that's how it works here. There's a minimum you'll pay regardless. Of course there's a minimum someone would pay me for such a vehicle and that minimum would be $0.00.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 03:19 PM (oFCZn)

188 178 Virginia has a similar annual tax on vehicles, or did when I lived there and can't imagine they got rid of a revenue stream. Posted by: Retread at March 29, 2014 07:14 PM (cHwk5) Actually, I think they did get rid of it, but I can't recall who was Governor at the time.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at March 29, 2014 03:19 PM (HsTG8)

189 155   JeanQ

Thx for trapping idea.  Got this feeling these fellers have GPS;  would be back here in no time.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 03:20 PM (aUQgu)

190 182...and God help the poor soul who dares take a piss near that pole...

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 03:20 PM (ahBY0)

191 Infidel, I tried moth balls and amnion in a combination one year & it got very hot out in April. I thought I was going to pass out from the smell of both & did not keep the frigging squirrels out of my roses. They eat the rose buds. I didnÂ’t know then that moth balls had gotten so expensive either. A small box was about $9 or $10. I have tried everything possible. I have a thing in the basement & IÂ’m too lazy to go down three flights of stars to look at it. But you plug it in & it sends out sounds to repel animals. It was a waste of $60 plus delivery & the cost to install a plug on the back porch. One of my friends had one, she used to think squirrels were cute until she started gardening. She told me via email it was an electronic device. I spent almost an entire night up searching for one until I called her the next day to ask for brand name. She called me on a Saturday morning. She lives in suburbs of Chicago & it worked for her. It did nothing for my garden near Boston.

Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2014 03:21 PM (gjOCp)

192 My sister lives in Missouri and she pays the tax once every two years and it's way, WAY lower than most places.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 03:21 PM (oFCZn)

193 Okay ima gonna go pass out on the couch. Somebody poke me when the Wisconsin game starts.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 03:22 PM (oMKp3)

194 184 146 James Tell me more. I'm ignant about powder, etc. Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 07:17 PM (aUQgu) It's colibri....spelled it wrong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7MPram4qvk

Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2014 03:22 PM (j7iSn)

195 Shhhhhh!! Don't give my state any ideas! Posted by: JeanQ at March 29, 2014 07:15 PM (82lr7) I typed it real quietly....

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 29, 2014 03:22 PM (bCEmE)

196 193 Okay ima gonna go pass out on the couch. Somebody poke me when the Wisconsin game starts. Posted by: grammie winger at March 29, 2014 07:22 PM (oMKp3) *quietly refills grammie's drink*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 03:23 PM (oFCZn)

197 183  grammie

Hang on for a bit;  there's millions of us fed up with this crap.  We just don't know one another yet.

Looks like Florida is out playing Dayton.  RATS

Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 03:23 PM (aUQgu)

198 192 My sister lives in Missouri and she pays the tax once every two years and it's way, WAY lower than most places. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 07:21 PM (oFCZn) This is good to know since we just moved here last August. Connecticut was ridiculous.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 29, 2014 03:23 PM (bCEmE)

199 Jim Gilmore (R) ran in 1997 on abolishing the car tax, won, and did it - imagine that! Of course, I had moved out of the state in May 1997 to marry the current misses, so no tax break for me! I don't understand why Gilmore did not run for higher office when his term ended. He was a great AG, too, IIRC.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 03:24 PM (HsTG8)

200 So I just paid my city $118 to let me park my vehicle at home.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 03:24 PM (EoeFV)

201 Google big bore air rifles . There's some really cool shit available out there . Big enough for deer and hogs even . Of course they're expensive and not very quiet , so not much of an advantage soundwise over centerfire rifles .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 29, 2014 03:25 PM (whqez)

202 This is good to know since we just moved here last August. Connecticut was ridiculous. Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2014 07:23 PM (bCEmE) Well check just in case they changed it but that's how it was a few years ago. Sis was astonished. The property tax on the house was peanuts compared to here too. Being from Connecticut I'm sure you going to be saving a lot of money living there.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 03:25 PM (oFCZn)

203 175 I don't know how many other states have this, but a MA excise tax is a local tax imposed upon vehicles owned. A sort of sales tax based on the vehicle's assessed value. Every year. Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 07:11 PM (EoeFV) Soothsayer, ItÂ’s better than when I bought my first car way back in 1979, the rate then was $66 per thousand dollars of the carÂ’s wroth. It was reduced to $25 at least 15 years ago, maybe longer. ItÂ’s one of the few times that we won over Taxachusetts!

Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2014 03:26 PM (gjOCp)

204 Well check just in case they changed it but that's how it was a few years ago. Sis was astonished. The property tax on the house was peanuts compared to here too. Being from Connecticut I'm sure you going to be saving a lot of money living there. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 07:25 PM (oFCZn) Our house property tax here is 1/8 what it was in Connecticut. Granted, it was a bigger house in CT but sheesh... Actually, I'm originally from Missouri, born and raised. Lived all over for the past 34 years. CT being the last place....decided to move back last year.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 29, 2014 03:28 PM (bCEmE)

205 ah good ol Michael Dukakis! Or was that under Ed King? Couldn't have been King because Howie Carr said Ed King was a good Democrat.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 03:29 PM (EoeFV)

206 I don't understand why Gilmore did not run for higher office when his term ended. He was a great AG, too, IIRC.

Letting taxpayers keep more of their own money is grounds for expulsion from the political class.

Posted by: Retread at March 29, 2014 03:30 PM (cHwk5)

207 Thanks for all the info. I'm wavering between the Crosman 1377 and the 1322. I've decided a pistol would be easier to stash in the shed/car/barn without troubling anyone. People do bring their kids down once in a while to ride Sandy. I'll throw it in a tool box that only I use and keep with me.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 03:30 PM (ZshNr)

208 194   james

wow.  pretty quiet...and effective.  Will look on the nets for vendor.  thx!!

Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 03:32 PM (aUQgu)

209 As for gardening here on the Delmarva Peninsula, the ground -- comprised of a high percentage of clay -- is sopping wet and it is raining. Our dog ran around the yard a couple of times this afternoon and was tearing up great clumps of grass while doing so. I did order some Sea Holly and Joe-Pye Weed plants the other day for our beach place, but put off getting them delivered until mid-May. Snowdrops are up and blooming. Narcissuses are about two inches high and I just noticed some of the sedum here have started budding. We have got to get down to the beach real soon because things there run about two to three weeks ahead of up here.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 03:32 PM (HsTG8)

210 208 194 james wow. pretty quiet...and effective. Will look on the nets for vendor. thx!! Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 07:32 PM (aUQgu) Can be kinda pricey

Posted by: BignJames at March 29, 2014 03:33 PM (j7iSn)

211 CO is terrible  for vehicle tax/lic plate cost.  There is a lic. fee a prop.  tax  based on value and weight, a bridge tax  and some others fees/taxes I can't  remember.  I have  a small trailer that I could license for $6 a few years ago.  It now costs ~$60.  Thanks  Hickenpooper and   dem controlled state.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 03:33 PM (puNd6)

212 An electric fence about four inches off the ground will keep little varmints like coons, squirrels, and rabbits. Be sure to invest in a real fence unit. A friend's dad ran his strait from the outlet. I'm sure it's endlessly amusing to find crispy critters but it's not a kid safe practice. Having a few real dogs that stay outside will drive off deer, rabbits, ground squirrels, moles, and Jehovah's Witnesses . Our Witness infestation on the farm was near zero despite numerous attempted colonizations.

Posted by: bestie1 at March 29, 2014 03:33 PM (ULdD7)

213 205
Or was that under Ed King? Couldn't have been King because Howie Carr said Ed King was a good Democrat.

I saw Strawberry Alarm Clock (with Ed King) open for The Doors on the Strip in '67...or was it' 68?

Posted by: Owsley from the Crypt at March 29, 2014 03:34 PM (csE5D)

214 Lincolntf...good luck, you'll have a lot of fun with whatever you decide on and may find it'll be outside more than in your toolbox.

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 03:34 PM (ahBY0)

215 so for the time being Acme is still in business manufacturing faulty products

Acme Mfg. Inc. is not responsible for user-error by coyotes, GM or Toyota.

Posted by: Acme Libel Division[/i][/b][/s] at March 29, 2014 03:35 PM (DL2i+)

216 RE: deer problems... It's easy. There's no shortage of pretty flora that deer don't like. Just stop wasting money planting deer food, and go with the flow. I should point out that I'm in Texas. I'm not sure if that's harder to do elsewhere, but here, it's easy to have a gorgeous yard w/o the deer destroying everything. They never bother my lantana, plumbago, esperanza (yellowbells), etc., and I see deer in my area every single day. But if you can't imagine a hibiscus-free garden, then you should probably move to where the deer aren't.

Posted by: Mephistefales at March 29, 2014 03:37 PM (zvB0s)

217 I will correct myself on Gilmore's running for office. He formed a committee to run for President in 2008, but withdrew after raising a minuscule amount of money. He then ran for the U. S. Senate against Mark Warner and got creamed by about 2-1. I saw him at the Pennsylvania Constitutional Organization of Liberty Conference in Harrisburg in Spring 2010 or 2011. Good speaker; excellent points, as I recall.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 03:37 PM (HsTG8)

218 During the time I lived in No. Calif, I learned from my landlord that the SF Zoo sold tiger excrement to the public as very effective deer repellant.  Apparently deer stay way aways from big cats.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 03:40 PM (aUQgu)

219 While not calling it a "vehicle property tax" my state--if you don't *register* your vehicle--would add the vehicle's assessed value to your property tax bill. 

I see that they only enforce when motorhomes, 5th-wheels are involved...

Posted by: JeanQ at March 29, 2014 03:40 PM (82lr7)

220 I don't know how many other states have this, but a MA excise tax is a local tax imposed upon vehicles owned. A sort of sales tax based on the vehicle's assessed value. Every year.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 07:11 PM (EoeFV)


WA state used to have a similar tax, but repealed it about 10 years ago.  Washington is, paradoxically, a firmly anti-tax state that keeps electing Democrats to statewide office even as it passes yet another anti-tax referendum.  No state income tax, and is rated the sixth-best state in terms of overall tax burden. 

Also, the State Senate has a majority coalition of Republicans plus two Democrats, but the State House has a majority of Democrats, even though they are elected from exactly the same districts (each district sends 1 Senator and 2 Reps to Olympia). 

Posted by: CQD at March 29, 2014 03:42 PM (4iOIE)

221 In NC, I am billed for

Inspecting the car each year
Registering the car each year
Taxes on the car each year

Plus, highest gas tax in the Southeast

Now they tell me the Highway Fund is defunct

Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 03:44 PM (aUQgu)

222 We have friends who live about two blocks from a state park here and there is a drainage ditch that provides the white-tailed deer who live there with a clear and covered route to their back yard. They asked me to look over their gardens last August to make some recommendations. In every bed adjoining the ditch there were 3 to 4 inch high clusters of a stalky plant that I did not recognize. My friends told me they were hosts, all stripped of foliage by the fcuking deer. Man, I despise those varmints; venison is all they are good for.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 03:44 PM (HsTG8)

223 In CO if I decide to not license  a vehicle or trailer for a couple years then decide to license it again, I have to pay the back taxes plus current to get a damn license. Ruthless bastards.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 03:45 PM (puNd6)

224 Back when I was a kid in a rural part of SW Ohio, farmers would often hang groundhog carcasses from the top wire of a fence with the idea that dead 'uns would scare away the active marauders.  Looking out from the bus window, farm after farm with expired rodents, swinging in the breeze.  Farm living gives one a particular pov on matters of life and death.

Posted by: mrp at March 29, 2014 03:46 PM (JBggj)

225 210  James

Have an idea.  Silencer!

Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 03:48 PM (aUQgu)

226 I don't know how many other states have this, but a MA excise tax is a local tax imposed upon vehicles owned. A sort of sales tax based on the vehicle's assessed value. Every year.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 29, 2014 07:11 PM (EoeFV)


That crap hasn't found its way to Canada, as far as I know. Certainly not here in Alberta. Costs about $70 per year, per vehicle, for plates, plus you must have proof of insurance. But unregistered vehicles cam sit for decades, if you want to have them, and I do. (keeps hipsters away)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2014 03:49 PM (u6NTO)

227 When I attended UC Berkeley to get my Ph.D. back in the late 70s, mailings from the Chemistry Department informed me that, were I to purchase a vehicle from outside CA and bring it into the state, I would be assessed an automatic $600 vehicle importation fee or some such nonsense. I never bought a vehicle there. I did not buy my fist car until I moved to SC in 1981.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 03:49 PM (HsTG8)

228 222...Deer launcher...

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 03:49 PM (ahBY0)

229 first carÂ… damn

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 03:50 PM (HsTG8)

230 Fist car. A hardcore shaggin' wagon?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 29, 2014 03:51 PM (ZshNr)

231 Regarding deer nom-ing your garden. My parents live in a small city in eastern KY and they have a large garden as well as a small herd of deer in the field next door. The deer decimated their bean crop a couple years ago and my dad tried everything to keep them away - spraying hot pepper juice, peeing in a bucket and spraying it around the perimeter, putting out scarecrows, you name it. Nothing at all worked. They finally installed an electric fence (!) and it's worked like, well, an electric fence. It's got three lines that wrap around the garden with a little gate so he can get in and out. At the beginning of every growing season, he folds small pieces of aluminum foil over the lines and puts peanut butter on them to encourage the deer come on over and get the shit shocked out of them so they know that this garden is NOT FOR THEM. Not entirely sure of the legality of the fence, since it's in the city limits, and they don't have small children or pets to worry about, so it works great for them. It's pretty bad-ass.

Posted by: shinypie at March 29, 2014 03:51 PM (3nZXa)

232 I wish

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 03:51 PM (HsTG8)

233 I shaved my nutzbag for St. Codsac. They fight against cough syrup addiction mongst oblates.

Posted by: Erowmero at March 29, 2014 03:51 PM (1gcFZ)

234 Not entirely sure of the legality of the fence, since it's in the city limits, and they don't have small children or pets to worry about, so it works great for them. It's pretty bad-ass. Posted by: shinypie at March 29, 2014 07:51 PM (3nZXa) It is simply an above-ground and visible fence a la the underground and invisible fence pet owners use to keep their critters in the yard. I LOLed at luring the deer in with peanut butter for "training"!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 03:55 PM (HsTG8)

235 Time to make some salsaÂ… BBL

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 29, 2014 03:57 PM (HsTG8)

236 Re. Deer, I use baling wire and my own pee. Has to be male pee. I pee in a gallon milk jug every morning, and pour it on the perimeter every week or so. A little gross, but effective.

Posted by: Bob at March 29, 2014 03:58 PM (mTM2n)

237 A little gross

just a little?  wrongamundo, Bob!

Posted by: Peaches at March 29, 2014 03:59 PM (8lmkt)

238 Hello Peaches

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 04:00 PM (oFCZn)

239 I just go out and piss on my vegetables every morning. Does away with the transfer thing.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 04:00 PM (puNd6)

240 223:  Yeah that sucks Ronster.  You used to be able to let a vehicle sit unlicensed if you were not going to have it on the roads for a year or three but the money grubbing Dems changed that a few years ago with the excuse of having to find more revenue because of the recession.  

Posted by: PaleRider at March 29, 2014 04:00 PM (vL0Nv)

241 Hello, Dack!  And esteemed members of the horde! 

Posted by: Peaches at March 29, 2014 04:00 PM (8lmkt)

242 Where's Ace? Out trashing the world with his goat simulator?

Posted by: Pug-delicious! at March 29, 2014 04:01 PM (vFh9Q)

243 So, hey, probably no one remembers what I posted last night on the ONT about the weird doorbell ring around 10 yesterday morning.  Turns out the fucker pushed the dumpster over under my next door neighbor's bathroom window, climbed in, trashed the place and stole her computer and all her jewelry.  Had I not been home (and normally I would not have at that hour), they would have also burglarized me.  Ya think I'm a little pissed off right now?

Posted by: Peaches at March 29, 2014 04:02 PM (8lmkt)

244 And a big Hi to the Peaches.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 04:02 PM (puNd6)

245 Ronster!!!!!  shmooshes, darlin'

Posted by: Peaches at March 29, 2014 04:03 PM (8lmkt)

246 That sucks Peaches. 

Posted by: PaleRider at March 29, 2014 04:04 PM (vL0Nv)

247 Damn Peaches that is scary.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 29, 2014 04:05 PM (oFCZn)

248 I didnÂ’t know then that moth balls had gotten so expensive either. A small box was about $9 or $10.


Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2014 07:21 PM (gjOCp)


Well, why don't YOU try bulldogging those moths, and holding them down, and hear those piteous cries as you cruelly cut their little balls out? No wonder they are expensive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 29, 2014 04:06 PM (u6NTO)

249 I  kinda wish someone would steal my computer, but definetly not my jewels.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 04:06 PM (puNd6)

250 I made up a flyer, went out and had 100 copies made and papered the neighborhood with it.  Maybe they will see it and go somewhere else.  My poor neighbor is a mess, though.  Came home at 1:30 am (she's a doctor, so no wisecracks, please), lights were on, all her shit was everywhere, they'd torn her bed apart and pulled the mattress off.  I fuckin' hate LA with every molecule of my being.

Posted by: Peaches at March 29, 2014 04:07 PM (8lmkt)

251 Peaches...take care and mind where you leave your pistoli...nice world this thing is getting be...

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 04:09 PM (ahBY0)

252 250   Peaches

Are you armed?  Just in case?

Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 04:10 PM (aUQgu)

253 to

Posted by: dumbartist at March 29, 2014 04:11 PM (ahBY0)

254 Yes, armed.  On of my main concerns is that they'll steal fluffy.

Oh, and, nood.  And, no, you can't be first. 

Posted by: Peaches at March 29, 2014 04:11 PM (8lmkt)

255 Theives and vandals are the lowest scum of the earth.  And Hairy Reed.

Posted by: Ronster at March 29, 2014 04:11 PM (puNd6)

256 "Maybe they will see it and go somewhere else. My poor neighbor is a mess, though. Came home at 1:30 am (she's a doctor, so no wisecracks, please), lights were on, all her shit was everywhere, they'd torn her bed apart and pulled the mattress off."

Seeing it was LA it could have been worse. She could have called the police and the cops could have shot her just in case she burglarized her own house.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 29, 2014 04:13 PM (IV4od)

257 So, hey, probably no one remembers what I posted last night on the ONT about the weird doorbell ring around 10 yesterday morning. Turns out the fucker pushed the dumpster over under my next door neighbor's bathroom window, climbed in, trashed the place and stole her computer and all her jewelry. Had I not been home (and normally I would not have at that hour), they would have also burglarized me. Ya think I'm a little pissed off right now?

Posted by: Peaches at March 29, 2014 08:02 PM (8lmkt)


That's why I tell people to get a dog (not a little one, howeve).  Burglars are normally looking for easy pickings, and a house with dog(s) does not qualify.  My own yard is fenced and locked, but the real defense is the five dogs, especially the Brindle Great Dane/Lab mix. 

Posted by: CQD at March 29, 2014 04:14 PM (4iOIE)

258 Peaches

Sleep with your fluffy (no snarks please).  I never close my eyes without knowing where the Ruger resides.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 29, 2014 04:18 PM (aUQgu)

259 NCwoof, for the first time, fluffy is fully loaded in the house.  Hollowpoints, too.  Not fuckin' around here.

Posted by: Peaches at March 29, 2014 04:24 PM (8lmkt)

260 In MA they added a gas tax tied to the CPI, we are trying to fight it. WeÂ’ve fought before, won & they have ignored us! ItÂ’s been at least 15 years that we voted to reduce MA income tax & they ignored us!

Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2014 04:32 PM (gjOCp)

261 So, hey, probably no one remembers what I posted last night on the ONT about the weird doorbell ring around 10 yesterday morning. Turns out the fucker pushed the dumpster over under my next door neighbor's bathroom window, climbed in, trashed the place and stole her computer and all her jewelry. ===== They robbed her at 10 AM!? Brazen punks.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 29, 2014 04:32 PM (bCEmE)

262 We have to have inspection every year, renew license plates every two & pay for both, of course. They are not taxes, bur Fees!

Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2014 04:33 PM (gjOCp)

263 I have to give myself my weekly pedicure if I can manage to do it. I use something called Mr. Pumice, itÂ’s great on just wet feet, not soaked feet if you know what I mean. Then I have to cut nails, etc. BBL after I eat too.

Posted by: Carol at March 29, 2014 04:36 PM (gjOCp)

264 Deer?

Never killed one through the "approved" methods, yet have two to my name in "car season".

Posted by: Captain Ned at March 29, 2014 05:49 PM (i+Fm3)

265 I've used "Deer Scram" with some success. It has a bit of a smell but it's not too bad. It lasts for about a month unless you get a heavy rain.

Posted by: gingeroni at March 30, 2014 10:39 AM (y8qcS)

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