January 14, 2014
— Ace Your Medicare dollars at work.
Taxpayers paid nearly $175 million for vacuum erection systems (VES), commonly known as “penis pumps,” from 2006 to 2011, according to an inspector general report released on Monday.The federal government paid more than double the retail price for VES, the Department of Health and Human Services IG found. Medicare prices for the systems, the report said, “remain grossly excessive compared with the amounts that non-Medicare payers pay.”
Medicare paid 473,620 VES claims during calendar years 2006 through 2011, according to the IG report.
Health care policy experts said the revelations in the IG report are a troubling indication of what they describe as wasteful spending in federal health programs.
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Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 06:23 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: junior at January 14, 2014 06:23 AM (rBlT8)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 06:23 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 14, 2014 06:24 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:24 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:25 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:25 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 14, 2014 06:25 AM (jlm/B)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 14, 2014 06:25 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Karl Rove at January 14, 2014 06:25 AM (JQuNB)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 06:25 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: bigjack at January 14, 2014 06:26 AM (Mh4UI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 06:26 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 14, 2014 06:26 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:26 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: SPAM at January 14, 2014 06:27 AM (vYB+W)
Posted by: Viridian at January 14, 2014 06:27 AM (xd4GQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:27 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:27 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 14, 2014 06:28 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: affenhauer at January 14, 2014 06:28 AM (Bvf82)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:28 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 06:28 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 14, 2014 06:28 AM (1Jaio)
That's what we have to do in my house. We look at our budget and then we say, we can't afford this crap. Then we don't buy it.
Too simple?
Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 06:29 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 14, 2014 06:29 AM (7ObY1)
I know the answer to the first question is "Democrats" but seriously, can HHS buy my beer for me? I need it for...a report.
Posted by: Null at January 14, 2014 06:29 AM (DuH+r)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:29 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Karl Rove at January 14, 2014 06:30 AM (JQuNB)
Those aren't penis pumps. They're cranial stimulators for all the dickheads in D.C.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 14, 2014 06:30 AM (vvk2F)
Posted by: CAC at January 14, 2014 06:30 AM (Xw3sf)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:31 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 06:31 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:31 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:31 AM (olDqf)
And yet no one is surprised, right?
If there's one thing that is as predictable as the sun rising in the morning, it is that any hugely funded government program will be rife with fraud and misspending.
And yet the MSM never quite deigns to link a story like this to a conservative/ Tea Party ideal of SMALL government, because the less money they have, and the fewer government programs in place, the less opportunity there is for crap like that.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 14, 2014 06:32 AM (POpqt)
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 06:32 AM (TE35l)
First question: why are these covered?
Second question: they can't even be bothered to verify a price on a boondoggle?
Posted by: Austin in TX at January 14, 2014 06:32 AM (lKVc4)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:32 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 10:31 AM (t3UFN)
Uhhhhh, that's just some leftover milk in my penis pump. Swearsies.
Posted by: mugiwara at January 14, 2014 06:33 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:33 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at January 14, 2014 06:33 AM (jXsSV)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:33 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:33 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Beagle at January 14, 2014 06:33 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:33 AM (olDqf)
Sure they do Mrs. Winger from their resort hotel luxury room
//Bathtub Oompa-Loompa
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 06:34 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 14, 2014 06:34 AM (7ObY1)
Apparently some of y'all are under the mistaken impression this is an enlargement device.
It's not. It's for guys who can't get it up anymore, this is the thing that puts it back on the straight and narrow.
A legit medical device, if you consider impotent men to be in need of medical assistance. A bazillion dollar ad campaign for vigara and seeallis would seem to suggest they are.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2014 06:35 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Sean at January 14, 2014 06:35 AM (KQZd+)
Posted by: John Boner at January 14, 2014 06:35 AM (m/WmK)
Posted by: Miss Scarlett at January 14, 2014 06:35 AM (4MZD9)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:36 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:36 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 14, 2014 06:36 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:36 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 14, 2014 06:37 AM (1Boes)
Posted by: Mandrake at January 14, 2014 10:22 AM (Cs2tJ)
Will he see his shadow this February? Oh wait, that's Knob-Gobbler. Never mind.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 10:25 AM (olDqf)
Hmmm, the original quoted comment has, in the word of Popeye, diskappeared.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 14, 2014 06:37 AM (QYbdU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:37 AM (DmNpO)
It's outrageous that the government is spending $175 million on penis pumps -- when they could be spending $175 million on federally subsided pecker pills.
Posted by: The Republicans "Medicare Part D Whatzup!"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2014 06:37 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 14, 2014 06:37 AM (kxSZr)
Can these pumps be used elsewhere - like pumping up bike tyres or blowing up balloons?
I've never really heard about these devices ( living innocently under a rock)
Posted by: aussie at January 14, 2014 06:37 AM (UVpzA)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:38 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:38 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:38 AM (olDqf)
If it is our duty to help aid every Americans impotence I have as a modest proposal Medicare funded prostitutes.
Why not?
We pay for Sandy Fluke's Pogo Pills and the Ronco Ballon Pump, it's time for the Federal Whore Corps or rather a second Federal Whore Corps since Congress exists.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 06:39 AM (TE35l)
Whatever happened to "keep the government out of my bedroom"?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 14, 2014 06:39 AM (eGmvn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:40 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Beagle at January 14, 2014 06:40 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 14, 2014 06:40 AM (bCEmE)
He was waving his orange cheeto amigo in our faces comrade...
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 06:40 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:41 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:41 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:42 AM (t+DWU)
I am STRUGGLING to overcome my frigidity SENATOR about 6 hours a day...
//Sandra Fluke aged 70
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 06:42 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: KG at January 14, 2014 06:42 AM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Austin "Danger" Powers at January 14, 2014 06:43 AM (f6rEV)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:43 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2014 06:44 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 14, 2014 06:44 AM (xN1DB)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 14, 2014 06:44 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: The shaft of kleptocracy at January 14, 2014 06:44 AM (R6JT1)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:44 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 14, 2014 06:44 AM (xN1DB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2014 06:45 AM (sA4/D)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:45 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 14, 2014 06:45 AM (U1Tts)
so we need viagra and penis pumps , and then abortions , and the pill .
so shouldn't they also cover nice bottles of wine and nice dinners to set the mood?
Posted by: willow at January 14, 2014 06:45 AM (nqBYe)
A penis pump walks into a bar and sternly orders a beer.
The bartender says, " you look kind of aggravated today , what's wrong?"
The penis pump replies " you'd be aggravated too if you had to work with the pricks I have to work with. "
Posted by: polynikes at January 14, 2014 06:45 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: joncelli at January 14, 2014 06:46 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 10:44 AM
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ISWYDT
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 14, 2014 06:46 AM (eGmvn)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:46 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:46 AM (olDqf)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 14, 2014 06:46 AM (GaqMa)
"From calendar years (CYs) 2006 to 2011, Medicare paid 473,620 VES claims totaling approximately $172.4 million. Over the same 6-year period, the yearly claimed amount for VES nearly doubled from $20.6 million in CY 2006 to $38.6 million in CY 2011"
From the chart, that doubling occurring from 2009 on.
Headline: Male Impotence Doubles Under Obama
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2014 06:46 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: willow at January 14, 2014 06:47 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: The Toaster at January 14, 2014 06:48 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 10:44 AM (t+DWU)
Yes, but glasses are covered. You would rather see him coming?
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 14, 2014 06:48 AM (+/C3g)
Posted by: steevy at January 14, 2014 06:48 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 14, 2014 06:48 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 06:48 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:49 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: willow at January 14, 2014 06:50 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Lucky Pierre at January 14, 2014 06:50 AM (5fSr7)
Will the Feminazi's now demand subsidies for sybians?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Just start giving out federally subsidized Neiman Marcus gift cards. That ought to jump start the ol' girl.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2014 06:50 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:51 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:51 AM (DmNpO)
http://www.ufunk.net/photoblog/ginger-girl-is-cute/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2014 06:51 AM (sA4/D)
Posted by: willow at January 14, 2014 06:52 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: eman at January 14, 2014 06:52 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Two Wild and Crazy Guys at January 14, 2014 06:52 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Baldy at January 14, 2014 06:53 AM (2bql3)
Posted by: Grumpy Grammarian at January 14, 2014 06:53 AM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 14, 2014 06:53 AM (Qev5V)
From the chart, that doubling occurring from 2009 on.
What chart?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
In the report. Follow the links down.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 14, 2014 06:54 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 14, 2014 06:54 AM (U1Tts)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 10:44 AM (t+DWU)
Damn. I've been got.
Posted by: KG at January 14, 2014 06:54 AM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:54 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Guy Who Doesn't Give a Shit at January 14, 2014 06:55 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 14, 2014 06:55 AM (QFxY5)
they need to cover that.
Posted by: willow at January 14, 2014 06:56 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Beagle at January 14, 2014 06:57 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 14, 2014 06:57 AM (U1Tts)
Posted by: BuckIV at January 14, 2014 06:57 AM (CLfqv)
Everybody lies about size, and let's not forget this is a growth industry.
Posted by: Fritz at January 14, 2014 06:57 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Carlos Danger at January 14, 2014 06:58 AM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 14, 2014 06:58 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Buzzion at January 14, 2014 06:58 AM (sKn6z)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:58 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:59 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 14, 2014 06:59 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 06:59 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 06:59 AM (DmNpO)
I assume they also pay for the implantable penis pump procedure if the impotence is a consequence of another covered disease or accident. I can see the medical necessity of the implantable or the VES if the condition is soley related to a disease or accident.
Simple HBP or aging or psychological factors should not be sufficient to approve. Type I diabetes, paraplegia, direct trauma, etc. should qualify you.
Posted by: polynikes at January 14, 2014 07:00 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 07:00 AM (t+DWU)
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Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 14, 2014 07:00 AM (naUcP)
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Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 14, 2014 07:00 AM (U1Tts)
Posted by: steevy at January 14, 2014 07:00 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 07:01 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Mystery Meat at January 14, 2014 07:02 AM (tvTBx)
Lee Stranahan is running interference for Obama on Benghazi again...
"it WAS all about the video!"
Sven J Olafson @sven10077
@stranahan @Taxfree1031 I know when I go to protest a youtube vid I take 82mm mortars and invite my "non affiliated freelance" cousins.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 07:02 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Thadius Longbottom at January 14, 2014 07:03 AM (hszOB)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 07:03 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: JEM at January 14, 2014 07:03 AM (o+SC1)
***
correction: I NEED toe surgery.
I must learn to phrase my demnds appropriately.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 14, 2014 10:59 AM (DmNpO)
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158 147 Toe shortening surgery was a hot plastic surgery.Women are nuts.
Are longer sandals covered?
Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at January 14, 2014 07:03 AM (3Tv+N)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 14, 2014 07:03 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 07:04 AM (t3UFN)
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Haven't seen these yet. I know someone who could...benefit.
Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 14, 2014 07:04 AM (YmPwQ)
I'm all for helping elderly Americans with their necessary medical treatments for life-threatening or disabling diseases or conditions. But who in their right mind ever thought it was an appropriate use of taxpayer funds to pay for what are essentially "recreational" treatments? And... if you do the math, the 473,000 claims works out to something between $350 and $400 per claim for the $175 million. Is that really something that people can't afford if they think it's so important to them?
Look, I have a 75 year-old neighbor. We help out cutting his grass in the summer and shoveling his walks and driveway in the winter. He's a widower and lives alone. I can't imagine a circumstance where he would lean across the fence and ask me to give him $400 for a penis pump and use as his excuse that he's old and I'm young and working and making enough money to afford it. But that's essentially what happens every day through the intermediary of the federal government -- our older neighbors hide the fact that they are asking us to pay for their penis pumps (and our younger neighbors hide the fact that they are asking us to pay for their contraception).
Posted by: The Regular Guy at January 14, 2014 07:04 AM (qHCyt)
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 14, 2014 07:05 AM (NHmbE)
Posted by: steevy at January 14, 2014 11:04 AM (zqvg6)
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THIS.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 07:05 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: motion view (@motionview) at January 14, 2014 07:05 AM (e6TyM)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 14, 2014 07:05 AM (U1Tts)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 14, 2014 07:06 AM (GaqMa)
I forget what it's called, but is features a number of model-like women in their 50's looking like they are ready for some action.
My husband commented that with the male ads, it's all about being spontaneous with your cute mate (Oh look, I caught you dancing in the living room! Let's get it on!), while the female version is all "Release the cougars!!"
Posted by: Lizzy at January 14, 2014 07:06 AM (POpqt)
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Very good illustration.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 07:06 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: In Soviet Russia Guy at January 14, 2014 07:07 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: Karusky at January 14, 2014 07:07 AM (Vh3lG)
I'd like my scars removed...all of them..
I have about 25 or so.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 07:07 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 14, 2014 07:09 AM (dfYL9)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 14, 2014 07:10 AM (GaqMa)
Freaking Cialis goes for $38 a pill now at the pharmacy. I have a few claimants who somehow were able to prevail through litigation and get their impotency covered as part of their Workers Comp claim.
I've got to get out of this business. If you want to see the Free Shit Army and their allies in the government at work , sit at an Insurance claims desk for a month. It would change your perspective on the mean old insurance company meme.
Posted by: polynikes at January 14, 2014 07:10 AM (m2CN7)
Perhaps if I started making offerings to the Yellowstone Caldera I'd get some better results...
Posted by: Jaws at January 14, 2014 07:12 AM (4I3Uo)
Well, not just anybody can afford to have a couple of footed tubs on the dock of their lake house...
Posted by: Lizzy at January 14, 2014 07:12 AM (POpqt)
There was a young man named Gene
Who invented a f***ing machine.
It was concave and convex,
It fit either sex.
But oh what a bastard to clean.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 14, 2014 07:12 AM (l3vZN)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 14, 2014 07:13 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 07:13 AM (t3UFN)
How many freaking assault penis pumps are now out there?
I think we should expand background checks and prohibit their sale to the mentally ill.
Posted by: tangonine at January 14, 2014 07:13 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 07:14 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 11:00 AM (t+DWU) ---- Isn't it more like an accordion?
Posted by: Baldy at January 14, 2014 07:14 AM (2bql3)
Only one chick sees about 2/3ds of 'em now...
Nah my point is people are asking for perfection rather than living.
I have a scar on my left orbital...every now and again the collagen acts up and it itches like hell and at worst makes my eye twitch.
1) I don't think that can be fixed
2) if "fixing it" requires a graft at ~4,800 bucks I do not think I should be able to force my son and his peers to pay for it just because I got to age 65...
I'm definitely not a model, and it is a nuisance not a QoL inhibitor...
"restraint" doesn't appear in too many people's dictionaries anymore.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 07:14 AM (TE35l)
It's called a wife.
Posted by: Vortex Lovera at January 14, 2014 11:11 AM (wtvvX)
As a married man, I can tell you outright this is disinformation and pure propaganda.
Posted by: tangonine at January 14, 2014 07:15 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: backhoe at January 14, 2014 07:16 AM (ULH4o)
http://tinyurl.com/lppd78h
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 14, 2014 07:18 AM (sA4/D)
It's called a wife.
Nothing quite like that first year of marital bliss.
Posted by: The Barrel at January 14, 2014 07:19 AM (YEelc)
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Medicare payments for VES have swelled in recent years. The Department of Health and Human Services paid $20.6 million for 61,589 claims in 2006. It paid $38.6 million for 103,448 claims in 2011.
///
I think the pun was intended at The Wash. Free Beacon.
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Posted by: rickb223 at January 14, 2014 10:27 AM (t+DWU)
Pacers, Gremlins, Pintos and Vegas???
Posted by: Vortex Lovera at January 14, 2014 07:30 AM (wtvvX)
Elvis Lives! oops wrong one.
I forgot about that tune, thank you!
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 14, 2014 06:22 AM (olDqf)