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February 20, 2014

Whoops: Detroit Home Invaders Attempt to Batter Down Door of Citizen Armed with an Assault Gun
— Ace

Assault gun? Whatever, I'm sure the left will call it that eventually.

Via Hot Air. As you probably know, Detroit's chief of police is actively recommending that citizens buy guns in order to defend themselves.

Posted by: Ace at 02:45 PM | Comments (179)
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1 This does not meet the Critical Information Needs. Rewrite this story and have the children killed because there was a gun in the home.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 02:47 PM (4+AaH)

2 Behold the power of the shoulder thingy that goes up!

Snark aside, good for her. I do love a story with a happy ending.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 20, 2014 02:47 PM (Gk3SS)

3 Probably an AR-15 assault shotgun.

Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 02:47 PM (SOKoI)

4 That's a big gun.

I'll go to the next house. Have a nice day, lady.

Posted by: Honey Badger at February 20, 2014 02:49 PM (Iyg03)

5 Good chance there would be three dead innocents if she wasn't armed. Only downside to this story are there aren't three dead thugs.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2014 02:50 PM (f15Ls)

6 No one was hit? Pity.

Posted by: --- at February 20, 2014 02:50 PM (MMC8r)

7 Did the mom hit anything?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2014 02:50 PM (d0Dmj)

8 People still actually live in Detroit? Huh. Go figure.

Posted by: tangonine (Entropy sucks) at February 20, 2014 02:50 PM (x3YFz)

9 This story insists upon itself.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 20, 2014 02:50 PM (XUKZU)

10 Forget it Ace, it's Thunderdome.

Posted by: eleven at February 20, 2014 02:51 PM (fsLdt)

11 I'll praise her fortitude, and criticize her aim. They should have been in a pile just inside the door.

Posted by: --- at February 20, 2014 02:51 PM (MMC8r)

12 Forget it Ace, it's Thunderdome.

When those three entered the home, none should have let.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2014 02:52 PM (d0Dmj)

Ah yes...Detroit.

That shrine of liberalism.

It looks like she wasn't aiming at them, just trying to scare them off.

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 02:52 PM (DEUoo)

14 At one point your inner Mad Max thinks Detroit is ripe pickin's, then you realize the city's net income is about $83.00 and not worth the gas money.

Posted by: tangonine (Entropy sucks) at February 20, 2014 02:52 PM (x3YFz)

15 "Snark aside, good for her. I do love a story with a happy ending." Agree. Guns are the great equalizer. How else should a mom repel 3 violent thugs? Strong language? Katanas?

Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 02:53 PM (SOKoI)

16 So at the end of the previous thread, someone posted the latest loopiness from Louis Farrakhan, which includes this gem:

"This includes The Mother Wheel, a massive spaceship that he believes remains in orbit and will eventually rescue Nation of Islam adherents from earth."

All I have to say about that is HURRY THE FUCK UP on this plan.

Dear "Mother Wheel" please take ALL the muzzies, not just Farrakhan's bunch. Somewhere else. Somewhere else that is far, far away. About two hundred million light-years from Earth sounds good.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 20, 2014 02:53 PM (gqT4g)

17 So what rifle was that?

Posted by: SamIam at February 20, 2014 02:53 PM (Lh8u2)

18 I thought you were taking the rest of the day off Ace? Hell.. I can't keep up!! Fantastic article over at the Anchoress.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at February 20, 2014 02:53 PM (u25eL)

19 Ah yes...Detroit.
That shrine of liberalism.

It looks like she wasn't aiming at them, just trying to scare them off.

Then mom needs a quick education. She had little ones in the home.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2014 02:53 PM (d0Dmj)

20 Too bad the gene pool wasn't cleansed with hits by Ms. Gunner.
Home=Castle. Steal from at your own risk.

Posted by: eureka! at February 20, 2014 02:54 PM (xiXna)

21 The feel good story of the week.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 20, 2014 02:54 PM (yz6yg)

22 17 So what rifle was that? Posted by: SamIam at February 20, 2014 06:53 PM (Lh8u2) Hi-Point Carbine

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2014 02:54 PM (f15Ls)

23 It looks like she wasn't aiming at them, just trying to scare them off. That let the one with a gun come back.

Posted by: --- at February 20, 2014 02:54 PM (MMC8r)

24 The CoP needs to start giving his armed citizen defenders some medals, and start issuing 'hunting licenses' for out-of-towners. It will be the safest city in the world inside of 12 months

Posted by: phreshone at February 20, 2014 02:54 PM (Q6pxP)

25 So what rifle was that?

Looked like some Hi Point or variant.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 20, 2014 02:54 PM (d0Dmj)

26 GUN THREAD!!!

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2014 02:55 PM (84gbM)

27 "People still actually live in Detroit? Huh. Go figure." It's not just Detroit. Flint and parts of Saginaw are also terrible. Spend any time commuting in or near the Detroit metro area and you rapidly learn which gas stations to avoid.

Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 02:55 PM (SOKoI)

28 I wish she had killed them. It would prevent them from doing it again when they get out of jail/prison.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 20, 2014 02:55 PM (6Nj7A)

29 Agree. Guns are the great equalizer. How else should a mom repel 3 violent thugs? Strong language? Katanas? Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 06:53 PM (SOKoI)

Okay, to be fair katanas would be cool. Not as effective, but cool.

I can't believe idiot boy dropped his gun, picked it up and then tried to go back in. He's damn lucky that he didn't wind up missing half his face.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 20, 2014 02:55 PM (Gk3SS)

30 /I, of course, condemn myself for this thought.... Good thing that woman was not White... or the story spin would have been WAY different.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2014 02:56 PM (84gbM)

31 Looks like a Keltec SU2000?

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 02:56 PM (4+AaH)

32 Why, this woman has been brainwashed and mistakenly thinks she and her two children are safer because she has a rifle in the house. Doesn't she know a 12 gauge is really the way to go?

Posted by: MTF at February 20, 2014 02:57 PM (F58x4)

33 Oops. Hi point carbine.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 02:57 PM (4+AaH)

34 31 Looks like a Keltec SU2000? Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 06:56 PM (4+AaH) HiPoint 300-400 bucks saved her and her kids. If you don't have anything now get what you can when you can.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2014 02:58 PM (f15Ls)

35 Good that she got that all on video.

Posted by: tasker at February 20, 2014 02:58 PM (RJMhd)

36 Thanks for the HI-Point clue. Yea it's a Hi-Point 995TS 9MM carbine cheapy ($250-$300 bucks) but it got the job done at least by actually firing.

Posted by: SamIam at February 20, 2014 02:59 PM (Lh8u2)

37 I'm surprised that rusted out Hi-Point didn't blow up.

Posted by: kartoffel at February 20, 2014 02:59 PM (07vvi)

38 Good advice RWC.. I want to buy another gun, just can decide what I want.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at February 20, 2014 02:59 PM (u25eL)

39 I guess they got the wrong address of their choir director who is helping them turn around their lives.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2014 03:01 PM (f15Ls)

40 She should have ventilated the varmits' hides.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 20, 2014 03:02 PM (BAS5M)

41 "Thanks for the HI-Point clue. Yea it's a Hi-Point 995TS 9MM carbine cheapy ($250-$300 bucks) but it got the job done at least by actually firing." As an aside, practically speaking does the stopping power really matter? I remember reading an interesting article (linked here I think) saying that stopping power for humans is sort of a myth. Growing up shooting different guns, if I wanted to effectively defend myself at short/mid-range I'd want a small caliber rifle with like a 30 round banana clip. That or katanas.

Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 03:02 PM (SOKoI)

42 I'm betting security cameras in Detroit are kind of like dash-cams in Russia. Invaluable, and necessary to cover your ass.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at February 20, 2014 03:03 PM (Opyrm)

43 Think of how hard it is for a young criminal to make a living in the depressed inner city like Detroit! We need more jobs programs to make richer victims for them! /liberal

Posted by: --- at February 20, 2014 03:03 PM (MMC8r)

44 Probably best bang for buck (SWIDT?) is a Mossberg 500 in 20 ga. About 200ish and will do the trick. The sound of the pump is pretty deterrent by itself. 20ga so it won't knock non adult male shooters on their asses

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 03:03 PM (4+AaH)

On Greta right now:

"WH Pushes FCC To Install Newsroom Spies"

She's interviewing the conservative guy, Ajit Pai...the whistle blower at the FCC who has been warning about this.

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 03:03 PM (DEUoo)

46 38 Good advice RWC.. I want to buy another gun, just can decide what I want. Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at February 20, 2014 06:59 PM (u25eL) flips open gun catalog and pints with eyes closed That one right there

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2014 03:03 PM (f15Ls)

47 "Okay, to be fair katanas would be cool. Not as effective, but cool." I think that's the Uma Thurman + yellow jumpsuit home defense system.

Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 03:03 PM (SOKoI)

48 How much time will the punks actually serve? What happens when they get out?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 20, 2014 03:04 PM (kVfSG)

49 Of course, having an oiled up and topless Mr. Sulu at your side grinning and screaming incomprehensibly while thrusting and parrying with a fencing foil never hurts either.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 20, 2014 03:04 PM (BAS5M)

50 if I wanted to effectively defend myself at short/mid-range I'd want a small caliber rifle with like a 30 round banana clip. That or katanas. Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 07:02 PM (SOKoI) Saber in the right hand.... .45 ACP in the Left... But then I shoot lefthanded... and am an Ambidextrous Fencer....

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2014 03:05 PM (84gbM)

51 Of course, having an oiled up and topless Mr. Sulu at your side grinning and screaming incomprehensibly while thrusting and parrying with a fencing foil never hurts either. That is the third gayest thing ever posted at the Q.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 03:05 PM (4+AaH)

52 "Of course, having an oiled up and topless Mr. Sulu at your side grinning and screaming incomprehensibly while thrusting and parrying with a fencing foil never hurts either." There are other things oiled up and topless that I want in my home.

Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 03:06 PM (SOKoI)

53 I think that's the Uma Thurman + yellow jumpsuit home defense system. Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 07:03 PM (SOKoI)

I would use that defense system.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 20, 2014 03:06 PM (Gk3SS)

54 She's need to get some wd40 and clean that thing.

Posted by: Adam at February 20, 2014 03:06 PM (Aif/5)

55 "Saber in the right hand.... .45 ACP in the Left... But then I shoot lefthanded... and am an Ambidextrous Fencer...." What are your feet doing? Learn from the octopus, use all your appendages.

Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 03:06 PM (SOKoI)

56 Has the news reporter been fired yet for calling them 'punks' and 'thugs'? THAT'S RAYYYYCIST!

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 20, 2014 03:06 PM (bCEmE)

57 15 "Snark aside, good for her. I do love a story with a happy ending." Agree. Guns are the great equalizer. How else should a mom repel 3 violent thugs? Strong language? Katanas? Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 06:53 PM (SOKoI) Definitely katana. With a guy with a crossbow backing you up

Posted by: Michonne at February 20, 2014 03:07 PM (kb5ik)

58 Budweiser Duels on FoxSport 1 as Nascar season starts up.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2014 03:07 PM (ZPrif)

59 8 People still actually live in Detroit? Huh. Go figure. Posted by: tangonine (Entropy sucks) at February 20, 2014 06:50 PM (x3YFz) Isolated outposts and firebases.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 20, 2014 03:08 PM (7i1Jd)

60 What are your feet doing? Learn from the octopus, use all your appendages. Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 07:06 PM (SOKoI) Moving.... Look up the Black Tigers on Youtube... we have a very distinctive Elizabethan fencing style... its all about Measure (distance)...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2014 03:08 PM (84gbM)

61 Lotta good fine people still left in Detroit. I'm glad she won this round.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 20, 2014 03:09 PM (n0SOW)

62 Isolated outposts and firebases. That is a surprisingly apt description.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 03:09 PM (4+AaH)

63 58 Budweiser Duels on FoxSport 1.Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2014 07:07 PM (ZPrif)
I visualize two men throwing beer cans at each other.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 20, 2014 03:10 PM (kVfSG)

64 "Lotta good fine people still left in Detroit. " That's what surprised me. If you go to a starbucks or some restaurant a lot of the people are normal people or businessmen, there just aren't very many of them. It's like they built a city but no one came. (actually they left)

Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 03:10 PM (SOKoI)

65 Nascar's Sprint Unlimited was last Sat. Set the ratings records for Fox Sports 1 in it's short life. Not even a real race. Season starts Sunday with Daytona. Budweiser Duels are just qualifying.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2014 03:10 PM (ZPrif)

66 Ok enough of this, I have to go drive across the Michigan winter wasteland sans katana and jumpsuit.

Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 03:11 PM (SOKoI)

67 She's need to get some wd40 and clean that thing. It should be oiled with the blood of its victims.

Posted by: --- at February 20, 2014 03:11 PM (MMC8r)

68 Anyone else just a bit terrified for the Mom & Kids that one of the perps almost went back inside for a shootout? At that point, does he get accused of attempted murder? If not, why not?

Posted by: krakatoa at February 20, 2014 03:11 PM (eCtnP)

69 That is a surprisingly apt description. Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 07:09 PM (4+AaH) Funny thing that.... my Lady and I have been discussing where we want to live after retirement... and what kind of house... Top of the List??? Defensible... at HER request... Add in she's a Redhead.... definitely a Keeper...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2014 03:11 PM (84gbM)

70 Did anyone get hit? Without glasses at Mop4 a blind man couldn't miss at that range.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 03:13 PM (6bMeY)

71 UFC Fight Night last Sat got a huge bump in ratings having Nascar's Sprint Unlimited as a lead in. UFC doubled their normal # of viewers on FS1. I'm sure UFC would love to do more double-headers like that. Night Nascar race leading straight into a UFC fight.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2014 03:14 PM (ZPrif)

72 Ok enough of this, I have to go drive across the Michigan winter wasteland sans katana and jumpsuit. Posted by: Roadrunner at February 20, 2014 07:11 PM (SOKoI)

You're going to be pretty cold doing that.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 20, 2014 03:14 PM (Gk3SS)

73 Yeah, as a side note,you can get a decent security cam dvr package for $150 or so. Do it.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 03:14 PM (4+AaH)

74 But, but, but that looks like one of those mean, military looking guns that people shouldn't own.

Posted by: Dumb Celebrity GunGrabber from Rich Neighborhood with Private Security at February 20, 2014 03:14 PM (Uo7Tv)

75 Posted by: Count de Monet at February 20, 2014 07:12 PM (BAS5M) for the record... his form is terrible.... LOL

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2014 03:15 PM (84gbM)

76 71 Did anyone get hit? Without glasses at Mop4 a blind man couldn't miss at that range. Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 07:13 PM (6bMeY) Nope. Nothing.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2014 03:15 PM (f15Ls)

77 I remember reading an interesting article (linked here I think) saying that stopping power for humans is sort of a myth. That may have been me. I found some information that caliber isn't that big a deal in home invasion/burglary type deals. I'd also argue that facing a 'wrongful death suit' by stupid descendants and impoverished lawyers is a very, very big deal. So just put a small caliber bullet into a very big dude and he's suddenly dissuaded from whatever intent was on his mind. He'll live, maybe be a pint low, but survive. The study seemed to indicate that shooting a perp with any caliber, even small, had never subsequently ended with the victims of the criminal action dying.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 20, 2014 03:15 PM (CnA98)

78 Does this mean Joe Biden was right?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 03:15 PM (6bMeY)

79 forget the gun she needed a deadly ninja black riot shield

Posted by: navycopjoe killing with his ninja killing shield at February 20, 2014 03:16 PM (At8tV)

80 That carbine is like 9mm. Not "high powered" at all. But it did what it was supposed to do.

Posted by: blaster at February 20, 2014 03:16 PM (4+AaH)

81 I wonder if the snow made it easier to track the thugs.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 20, 2014 03:16 PM (Uo7Tv)

82 A blood trail would have made the tracking easier.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 03:17 PM (6bMeY)

83 I'm getting one of these in .40. On a lark I bought a hi point pistol because what the Hell it was $125, not even a good grocery shopping day, but for $125 I got a fun gun to shoot. Goes bang every time (as long as not steel cases) and accurate. If it comes that time, this will be the gun I give a neighbor who needs it.

Posted by: traye at February 20, 2014 03:17 PM (trMr7)

84 82 some range time for her and they could've just followed the blood trail

Posted by: navycopjoe killing with his ninja killing shield at February 20, 2014 03:17 PM (At8tV)

85 Anyone else just a bit terrified for the Mom & Kids that one of the perps almost went back inside for a shootout?

At that point, does he get accused of attempted murder? If not, why not?

The poor youngster, who looked just like Obama's son if Obama only had a son, was just trying to retrieve his Skittles from the house.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 20, 2014 03:17 PM (8ZskC)

86 83 curse your fast fingers

Posted by: navycopjoe killing with his ninja killing shield at February 20, 2014 03:18 PM (At8tV)

87 Felt bad for Supercross, they got bumped to Fox Sports 2, which is only in 40-50M households. FS1 is in 90M+, I think. Always surprised that Supercross doesn't do better on TV ratings, it's visually impressive with lots of wrecks. Sells out stadiums all over the West, but only gets 500k or so viewers on TV.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 20, 2014 03:18 PM (ZPrif)

88 So what rifle was that?
Posted by: SamIam at February 20, 2014 06:53 PM (Lh8u2)

Hi-Point Carbine

For those rare instances when peeing in your pants isn't enough.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 20, 2014 03:19 PM (8ZskC)

89 Assault gun? She used a panzernashorn or something? Awesome! I want one. Or two. Could be hard to park.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 03:19 PM (UYe47)

90 The Revolution has Opera singers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 03:19 PM (6bMeY)

91 Well, it is black and scary. And it has rails. And probably a shoulder thing that goes up.

Posted by: kartoffel at February 20, 2014 03:19 PM (07vvi)

92 @68 attempted murder The issue would be the specific intent to kill. I agree with you. The intent to rob would have morphed into an intent to kill.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 03:21 PM (UYe47)

93 GRANNY GET YOUR GUN

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2014 03:21 PM (ss5GK)

94 I'm sorry people. You don't know what you are talking about. Projectile vomiting would have worked here. Finger down your throat--not on the trigger!

Posted by: Susan Sarandon at February 20, 2014 03:22 PM (RJMhd)

95 THEY'RE ALL GOOD BOYS!!!! THEY JUST GOT IN WITH A BAD CROWD!!!!

Posted by: Parents of the Accused at February 20, 2014 03:22 PM (MMC8r)

96 90 Assault gun? She used a panzernashorn or something? Awesome! I want one. Or two. Could be hard to park. Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 07:19 PM (UYe47) I always liked the Hetzer....

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2014 03:22 PM (84gbM)

97 Is the Mom seeing anyone?

Posted by: bob filner at February 20, 2014 03:23 PM (WCnJW)

98 Perhaps she could use a live firing Han Solo blaster in 7.62x25mm Mauser. http://tinyurl.com/jwskpmq

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2014 03:25 PM (f15Ls)

99 99 Did she shoot first?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 03:27 PM (6bMeY)

100 I love how they were all wearing hoodies in honor of young, innocent Trayvon.

Posted by: Andy at February 20, 2014 03:27 PM (vGQV1)

101 THEY'RE ALL GOOD BOYS!!!! THEY JUST GOT IN WITH A BAD CROWD!!!!

Posted by: Parents of the Accused

HE'S GOING TO SCHOOL TO BECOME AN DOCTOR.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 20, 2014 03:27 PM (xrX4n)

102 The real cretin is the third guy. Wished she had a 12 gage with buckshot, had got him center mass at the top step.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 20, 2014 03:27 PM (tmFlQ)

103 Maybe she should have thrown a bean bag at them.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at February 20, 2014 03:28 PM (u25eL)

104 The jackass who dropped the gun, picked it up, and went back inside is a slow learner.

Posted by: no good deed at February 20, 2014 03:28 PM (vBhbc)

105 Agree. Guns are the great equalizer. How else should a mom repel 3 violent thugs? Strong language? Katanas? Posted by: Roadrunner

Strongly worded letters are my go-to weapon of choice. That, and wetting myself.

Posted by: BHO at February 20, 2014 03:28 PM (6TB1Z)

106 He dropped his gun in the snow. What a rube.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 03:28 PM (6bMeY)

107 I trump your Hetzer.

Posted by: B at February 20, 2014 03:28 PM (UYe47)

108 100 99 Did she shoot first? Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 07:27 PM (6bMeY) Damn that was quick.

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2014 03:28 PM (f15Ls)

109 She could have just blown a whistle at them really loud.

Posted by: Jim Carrey at February 20, 2014 03:28 PM (Aif/5)

110 What's amazing is that she even saw three black male youths!? After all, they are an endangered species.

Posted by: Wayne Brady at February 20, 2014 03:28 PM (ss5GK)

111 That's what surprised me. If you go to a starbucks or some restaurant a lot of the people are normal people or businessmen, there just aren't very many of them. It's like they built a city but no one came. (actually they left)

By Allah's dessicated left nut, why? Even if you have elderly relatives in the neighborhood, the rest of your family deserves better. I'd crawl a mile of broken glass to get out of that suck-pit.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 20, 2014 03:29 PM (gtjN1)

112 why do i need an ar-15? this is why i need an ar-15

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 7 days (1wk) until spring training at February 20, 2014 03:30 PM (u8GsB)

113 She is clearly Peruvian.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 03:30 PM (6bMeY)

114 Hetzer? Pah!

Posted by: Sturmtiger at February 20, 2014 03:30 PM (UYe47)

115 white hoodies = innocent says the MFM everywhere

Posted by: L, elle at February 20, 2014 03:31 PM (0xqKe)

116 All three are in juvenile custody, so all 'yoots.' One is already out on bond? Sheesh. http://preview.tinyurl.com/kcx94zd

Posted by: --- at February 20, 2014 03:31 PM (MMC8r)

117 111 What's amazing is that she even saw three black male youths!? After all, they are an endangered species. Posted by: Wayne Brady at February 20, 2014 07:28 PM (ss5GK) ----------- These are not the black on black homicide rates you are looking for.........

Posted by: Old Ben at February 20, 2014 03:31 PM (Aif/5)

118 Ukraine's defense minister won't take Chuck Hagel's phone calls. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 20, 2014 03:32 PM (bCEmE)

119 Doh. Premature postage with flaccid sock @108. Stupid tiny phone buttons.

Posted by: Beagle at February 20, 2014 03:32 PM (UYe47)

120 The Russian snipers are in Kiev. Just like in Syria.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 03:33 PM (6bMeY)

121 Anyone else just a bit terrified for the Mom & Kids that one of the perps almost went back inside for a shootout?

That's something that bugs me about the legal requirement that says "If they're leaving, the threat is ended and you can't shoot at them anymore."

What do I know about why they're leaving? Maybe they're going to get more weapons. Maybe they're getting more thug friends. Maybe they're getting over their initial fright and steeling their resolve to fight me.

I know what I'm required to do and I'll do it. But I don't like it.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 20, 2014 03:33 PM (gtjN1)

122 Shotgun. Front door. You know the rest.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at February 20, 2014 03:33 PM (Dwehj)

123 phoenix girl.. that's what I want but sadly lack the bucks to buy one.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at February 20, 2014 03:34 PM (u25eL)

124

"Ukraine Protesters have taken 67 police as prisoners."

Whoah. ....67 police?

That's impressive.

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 03:35 PM (DEUoo)

125 Hope she has her taxes in order. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at February 20, 2014 03:36 PM (Dwehj)

126 Whoah. ....67 police? That's impressive. They're using donuts for bait.

Posted by: --- at February 20, 2014 03:36 PM (MMC8r)

127 I wish still I had a StuG III Ausf. G with a 7.5 m L/70...

I had one once, at Stalingrad.

Posted by: General Josef Bidenhäuser at February 20, 2014 03:36 PM (J6JcG)

128 One is already out on bond? Sheesh.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/kcx94zd

In that story the husband says he gave the wife that rusted out POS two weeks before this incident. I guess if that's what you can afford, that's fine. But I hope he didn't pay more than $50.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 20, 2014 03:37 PM (gtjN1)

129 Obama won't appear with this woman unless she demands taxpayer-funded condoms.

Posted by: --- at February 20, 2014 03:37 PM (MMC8r)

130 Next time lady, make sure you actually place a few rounds INTO the bullet-sponge-punks.

Posted by: Strife at February 20, 2014 03:37 PM (Ojgjr)

131 it's amazing......so many people fighting for freedom in so many countries and the scoamf REFUSES to help any of them.......i wonder why/////////

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 7 days (1wk) until spring training at February 20, 2014 03:37 PM (u8GsB)

132 Nood up.

Posted by: Fourth Horseman at February 20, 2014 03:37 PM (GKF3X)

133 "Ukraine Protesters have taken 67 police as prisoners." Shouldn't that be 'Peaceful Ukrainian Protesters'?

Posted by: garrett at February 20, 2014 03:37 PM (ss5GK)

134 Crucify them.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 20, 2014 03:38 PM (6bMeY)

135 Ok, so here's the thing: I have 3 german shepherds that will destroy you the instant you enter my home. After that, I'm on the mossberg with 00 buck, and the wifey has the sig .40. You will not make it out alive. So the question is: doesn't every Moron have the same? One guaranteed way to the coroner's lab: turn my doorknob and walk in uninvited. Sure there's plenty of medical students awaiting your dead ass on a slab.

Posted by: tangonine (Entropy sucks) at February 20, 2014 03:38 PM (x3YFz)

136

122...Posted by: bonhomme at February 20, 2014 07:33 PM (gtjN1)

A woman here in OK, chased some robbers down the street shooting at them.

They had broken into her house.

She hit one...the other got away.

She was not arrested.

Police told her "nice job".

Posted by: wheatie at February 20, 2014 03:39 PM (DEUoo)

137 All three are in juvenile custody, so all 'yoots.' One is already out on bond? Sheesh. http://preview.tinyurl.com/kcx94zd Posted by: --- at February 20, 2014 07:31 PM (MMC8r) Which is why you shouldn't "aim to scare them off". They'll be back. And all of them will be armed this time. Had she plugged the first one and second one, the third one might not have charged the door again. But plugging him then also would have been a win for decent society. And it would have all been caught on camera. The third animal that picked up his gun and then tried to reenter....someone please tell me why you shouldn't shoot every round you have and then some. These people are crazy and high and sometimes it takes three or four rounds to slow them down.

Posted by: Jen at February 20, 2014 03:39 PM (eEYDa)

138 Seven round magazine? After all, no one needs eight bullets.

Just ask New York.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 20, 2014 03:40 PM (cHZB7)

139

First though: Nice Gun Lady!

Second thought: The kid saying 'I don't want them to take my piggy bank' is both heartbreaking and adorable. Throw the book at them.

Posted by: Lea at February 20, 2014 03:40 PM (/bd0t)

140 Perhaps she could use a live firing Han Solo blaster in 7.62x25mm Mauser. http://tinyurl.com/jwskpmq Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2014 07:25 PM (f15Ls) It's 7.63mm, not 7.62mm. It's a great gun. Fun to shoot and probably one of the most solidly built guns ever made. Absolutely reliable.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 20, 2014 03:40 PM (XvHmy)

141 How do you take 67 armed men prisoner? I know nothing.

Posted by: Sergeant Schulz at February 20, 2014 03:41 PM (6bMeY)

142 Just an FYI... The gun that the one punk had, turned out to be a toy gun! You talk about DUMB! Anyhow, Yeah, that's happening here in the city. -Patrick 15 miles south of Detroit. P.S. This happened on the west side of Detroit, which is a bit far from where I am.

Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at February 20, 2014 03:44 PM (OhrW4)

143 If you're going to shoot at somebody, shoot at center mass. Also known as shoot to kill. Liitle sumbitches broke in--they should have been carried out.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at February 20, 2014 03:45 PM (wdHk6)

144 Also too, as the resident hatemonger. (As I am often being accused of....) The teens that did this, were black. So was the woman who did the shooting.... If the shooter had been white, they would have arrested her and charged here with reckless use of a firearm. I'd bet a steak dinner on it.

Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at February 20, 2014 03:49 PM (OhrW4)

145 here = her oops.

Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at February 20, 2014 03:50 PM (OhrW4)

146 The gun that the one punk had, turned out to be a toy gun! You talk about DUMB! HE. WENT. BACK? Darwin, you've failed.

Posted by: --- at February 20, 2014 03:52 PM (MMC8r)

147 Well, well, well, all three teenaged thugs were known to the police. Color me surprised. I denounce myself...

Posted by: runningrn at February 20, 2014 03:54 PM (o6g4X)

148 Sadly, Patrick, I think you're right.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2014 03:54 PM (sdi6R)

149 143 Just an FYI... The gun that the one punk had, turned out to be a toy gun! You talk about DUMB! Perhaps he mistook hers for a pop-tart chewed in the shape of a rifle...

Posted by: runningrn at February 20, 2014 03:56 PM (o6g4X)

150 The fact that she didn't shoot to kill may tempt more dangerous thieves to come and try to steal that weapon. Just a thought.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 20, 2014 03:56 PM (9eDbm)

151 @143 Toy gun? Who would go back for a dropped toy gun when the barrel of a real one is pointed at them?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 20, 2014 03:58 PM (9eDbm)

152 121 The Russian snipers are in Kiev. Just like Syria. I didn't realize when Obama drew a red line, it was Red snipers...

Posted by: runningrn at February 20, 2014 03:59 PM (o6g4X)

153 Also too, as the resident hatemonger. (As I am often being accused of....) The teens that did this, were black. So was the woman who did the shooting.... If the shooter had been white, they would have arrested her and charged here with reckless use of a firearm. I'd bet a steak dinner on it. Actually, the Detroit Police Dept. knows full well what they are dealing with in the city and are probably more disappointed that she didn't kill the SOB's. Now they have to go to court, and hearings, and etc. etc. The new police Chief, imported from Maine, has come out publicly in favor of conceal carry and armed citizens in Detroit. There is no way the police dept. depleted due to the bankruptcy, etc. can effectively answer all the calls. What I find amazing in the story is that she has a husband. That is truly on the fringe for a woman with kids living in Detroit.

Posted by: Jen at February 20, 2014 04:03 PM (eEYDa)

154

I give this woman a lot of credit. Made of very stern stuff. I do think that said troublemaker that dropped his weapon, retrieved it, and then came back for more should have been a likely candidate for elimination from the gene pool since he didn't leave the AO like he should have. By the by, I am not a fan of warning shots. Rounds can can end up in all sorts of places you don't want them, better to show use of lethal force and then use it than fire a round and have it end up where you don't want it to. Just my ROE training coming to the fore I guess.

OT, Russian snipers are no joke. Or, more specifically, snipers with experience are no joke. One of my section leaders was killed by the Chechynian sniper "Juma" in Baghdad in 2005. Saw it on his youtube video a couple days later. Luckily some green beenies tagged him soon after before he could add more to his total.

Posted by: Assassin6 at February 20, 2014 04:04 PM (FfukH)

155 ...3 german shepherds... That's a lot of dog shit.

Posted by: nip at February 20, 2014 04:19 PM (SxlUl)

156 Just a thought. She pointed and fired under extreme duress, and I'll bet she had her eyes closed every time she pulled the trigger. I'll give her kudos for even firing the weapon. If I were her husband, though, I would have armed her with a shotgun. Accuracy is not so important with a shotgun as it is with a rifle, especially with a rookie.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 20, 2014 04:25 PM (vVSOO)

157 She lives on Woodrow Wilson drive. Great socialist and appropriate name for this neighborhood.

Posted by: Airandee at February 20, 2014 04:31 PM (SoYer)

158 Got one of those carbines in 9mm. Like it a lot. Shoots fine, accurate and reliable. Only drawback is the weight. It's built like a tank for a carbine. Only 10 round mags tho, the 15 round aftermarket are crap.

Posted by: Trainer's looking to join a Militia. at February 20, 2014 04:37 PM (7EbAY)

159 Not just an assault rifle. But a rusty Saturday Night Special assault rifle!

Something a Moron would abuse during a hobo hunt after the cops take his .30-06.

( cheers )

Posted by: Kristophr at February 20, 2014 05:10 PM (c6N69)

160 I wouldn't mind an STG-III for the spread...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 20, 2014 05:14 PM (XO6WW)

161 The Political Hat: 7.62x25 are the actual dimensions of the 7.63 Mauser cartridge.

Although you generally use the nomenclature 7.62x25 for the more powerful, but dimensionally identical Tokerev cartridge.

( Do not shoot a tok round in a broomhandle mauser. It will fit, but it will probably bury the slide in your face )

Posted by: Kristophr at February 20, 2014 05:15 PM (c6N69)

162 and am an Ambidextrous Fencer.... Posted by: Romeo13 at February 20, 2014 07:05 PM (84gbM) -------------- Is that a euphimism? If not, it's gonna be

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 20, 2014 05:16 PM (Tz35j)

163 fastfreefall: Is his blade Gay?

Posted by: Kristophr at February 20, 2014 05:17 PM (c6N69)

164 That was perhaps the scariest black rifle I've ever seen (and I go to gun shows). Anyone ID the winning mega-assault-ex-cap-killer death gun?

Posted by: AltonJackson, DTF at February 20, 2014 06:03 PM (JMmQ9)

165 Siht, we're talking Tokerevs? I'm in. Before the tragic boating accident I had the infamous Chi-Com copy of a Soviet design what the Soviets ripped off from John Moses Browning. The Norinco Tokarev M213 in 9mm. Doesn't that just scream "quality"? I almost bought the Tok in it's original 7.62 x 25 chambering (I've heard it a wicked round, fast and flat). But in 1992, where do you go to buy 7.62 x 25?

Posted by: AltonJackson, DTF at February 20, 2014 06:11 PM (JMmQ9)

166 Have I been ban-hammered, or is there something else going on? Eight minutes between comments after 10:00 PM Eastern just doesn't happen (mostly).

Posted by: AltonJackson, DTF at February 20, 2014 06:20 PM (JMmQ9)

167 It's a highpoint 9mm carbine.

Cheap, but effective.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 20, 2014 06:22 PM (c6N69)

168 People are posting in the new thread, or waiting on the ONT to start.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 20, 2014 06:23 PM (c6N69)

169 cheap is big in my book.

Posted by: AltonJackson, DTF at February 20, 2014 06:23 PM (JMmQ9)

170 Shoot to stop the attacker. If the attacker is killed, they stop. Always.

Posted by: Erowmero at February 20, 2014 06:24 PM (OONaw)

171 Shoot to stop the attacker. If the attacker is killed, they stop. Always. Posted by: Erowmero at February 20, 2014 10:24 PM You shoot to alleviate the immediate danger. When the immediate danger has been subsided, then you stop shooting. Pro-tip: you may have to re-load...

Posted by: AltonJackson, DTF at February 20, 2014 06:28 PM (JMmQ9)

172 Nice Glock AR-15 Assault Shotgun.

Posted by: dogfish at February 20, 2014 06:31 PM (nsOJa)

173 An M1 carbine with a 20 round magazine is one of my choices for home defense. I would grab it right after I emptied my mdl 29 s&w and remington 870 12 guage. And they wouldn't have been tracking them in the snow. The coroner would have been picking pieces of them off the ceiling. Home invasion is seriously frowned on in Montana.

Posted by: fairweather bill at February 20, 2014 06:33 PM (wNbCc)

174 Nice Glock AR-15 Assault Shotgun. Posted by: dogfish at February 20, 2014 10:31 PM ...with the 25 mm grenade launcher and the "shoot at night" optics...

Posted by: AltonJackson, DTF at February 20, 2014 06:34 PM (JMmQ9)

175 not to mention the phased-plasma rifle in the 40 watt range...

Posted by: AltonJackson, DTF at February 20, 2014 06:37 PM (JMmQ9)

176 A bit rusted over, but still effective. Good for her. Now for some range time to improve her accuracy.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at February 20, 2014 11:31 PM (M3w2v)

177 In NYC, even post Heller, one is prohibited from owning a long gun with magazine capacity over 5, count em 5 rounds. So, "warning" shots are right out. But its kind of a moot point, because NYC law requires the gun to be stored, even in the home, unloaded, and locked, with the ammo locked separately. This is blatantly unconstitutional post Heller (really post 2A, but the Supremes finally figures at least that much out). But someone needs to take the NYC law on head on. I love the NRA, but I suspect that due to the politics and how things would play out in PR they just leave NYC alone. There are many of us in NYC who don't "deserve what we voted for" because, like Backwards Boy, we never in fact voted for this sh*t.

Posted by: NYC Parent at February 21, 2014 04:14 AM (w7+Jh)

178 "141 Perhaps she could use a live firing Han Solo blaster in 7.62x25mm Mauser.

http://tinyurl.com/jwskpmq

Posted by: RWC at February 20, 2014 07:25 PM (f15Ls)

It's 7.63mm, not 7.62mm.

It's a great gun. Fun to shoot and probably one of the most solidly built guns ever made. Absolutely reliable.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 20, 2014 07:40 PM (XvHmy)"

I used to have one. A garden variety broomhandle - not the Han Solo version. At the time 7.63 Mauser ammunition was essentially unavailable so I shot 7.62 Tokarev ammunition from it which was pretty much identical in external dimensions. The only caveat was to avoid steel jacketed Czech submachinegun ammunition which was loaded absurdly hot.

It was not particularly reliable when all ten rounds were loaded in the magazine. I take that to be related to the magazine leaf spring being old and the gun having spent more than half a century in storage somewhere in China. Maybe it was a weak recoil spring. I don't know. I kept meaning to replace those springs but I never did before I sold it. Loaded with eight rounds, it worked pretty well. It was lots of fun to shoot. Recoil was mild but it was really loud. I got a kick out of the tangent sight that went up to 900 meters. I never shot it at a range that went out that far so I can't say just how optimistic that range setting was.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 21, 2014 05:26 AM (BcCwi)

179 "144 If you're going to shoot at somebody, shoot at center mass. Also known as shoot to kill. Liitle sumbitches broke in--they should have been carried out.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at February 20, 2014 07:45 PM (wdHk6)"

I would be surprised if she was aiming or even had the gun on her shoulder since she had only had the gun for a few weeks and she didn't hit any of them. Still, the gun did what it was there for - it kept her and her children safe.

Pistol caliber carbines like this are a better choice than shotguns for people who are not familiar with firearms and who don't really want to take the time to get familiar with them. A lot of newbies are surprised and frightened by shotgun recoil, particularly from a 12 gauge. Despite what many people say, a shotgun is not the best choice to use indoors. A little bit of range time with instructions on how to use the sights and she ought to be hitting the center of mass on a consistent basis.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 21, 2014 05:42 AM (BcCwi)

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