January 14, 2014

Within Minutes of Benghazi Attack, Barack Obama Was Informed By Top Military Men It Was a "Terrorist Attack" and not a Spontaneous Protest or Exercise in Freeform Film Criticism
— Ace

Actually that headline is slightly deceptive, because we only know the top military men about to meet with Barack Obama were told Benghazi was a "terrorist attack." And we probably don't have proof of that because of a corrupt invocation of Executive Privilege.

However, it defies reason to imagine that General Ham and the rest of them were told it was a "terrorist attack" but then immediately told Obama it was a spontaneous protest.

And yet the Administration began claiming the next morning that it was a spontaneous protest in which spontaneous participants happened to bring spontaneous mortars with spontaneously pre-ranged firing solutions.


Minutes after the American consulate in Benghazi came under assault on Sept. 11, 2012, the nation's top civilian and uniformed defense officials -- headed for a previously scheduled Oval Office session with President Obama -- were informed that the event was a "terrorist attack," declassified documents show. The new evidence raises the question of why the top military men, one of whom was a member of the president's Cabinet, allowed him and other senior Obama administration officials to press a false narrative of the Benghazi attacks for two weeks afterward.

Gen. Carter Ham, who at the time was head of AFRICOM, the Defense Department combatant command with jurisdiction over Libya, told the House in classified testimony last year that it was him [sic] who broke the news about the unfolding situation in Benghazi to then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The tense briefing -- in which it was already known that U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens had been targeted and had gone missing -- occurred just before the two senior officials departed the Pentagon for their session with the commander in chief.

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"My first call was to General Dempsey, General Dempsey's office, to say, 'Hey, I am headed down the hall. I need to see him right away,'" Ham told lawmakers on the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation on June 26 of last year. "I told him what I knew. We immediately walked upstairs to meet with Secretary Panetta."

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Numerous aides to the president and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeatedly told the public in the weeks following the murder of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans that night -- as Obama's hotly contested bid for re-election was entering its final stretch -- that there was no evidence the killings were the result of a premeditated terrorist attack, but rather were the result of a protest gone awry.

So, was Panetta confused about the nature of the attack, perhaps conveying incorrect information to the President?

Nope:


Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee in February of last year that it was him who informed the president that "there was an apparent attack going on in Benghazi." "Secretary Panetta, do you believe that unequivocally at that time we knew that this was a terrorist attack?" asked Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla. "There was no question in my mind that this was a terrorist attack," Panetta replied.

Senior State Department officials who were in direct, real-time contact with the Americans under assault in Benghazi have also made clear they, too, knew immediately -- from surveillance video and eyewitness accounts -- that the incident was a terrorist attack.

Obama has conceded the story was false. However, he and his defenders (by which I mean chiefly the media) insist that the false story was not a lie. They claim that they had legitimate reasons to believe a false story themselves.

And yet nowhere in the record to we ever see any informed party offering up this false story. It seems cooked up entirely out of Hillary Clinton's office.

Posted by: Ace at 12:44 PM | Comments (251)
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1 It was a video, wingnut.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 14, 2014 12:45 PM (GrtrJ)

2 It's almost like these people are dishonest.

Posted by: irright at January 14, 2014 12:46 PM (8GKDa)

3 They claim that they had legitimate reasons to believe a false story themselves.
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Yeah, the election.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 14, 2014 12:47 PM (XUKZU)

4 "terrorist attack."  Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 14, 2014 12:47 PM (+Wvn3)

5 Fucking Romney!

Posted by: Kreplach at January 14, 2014 12:47 PM (5aory)

6 You misunderstand! It was a terrorist attack by terrorists who didn't like the video!

Posted by: Susan Rice at January 14, 2014 12:48 PM (OZmbA)

7 Rove is dead to me...DEAD!

Posted by: Paladin at January 14, 2014 12:49 PM (+Wvn3)

8 A staff of twenty of our most experienced reporters are currently assigned to calculating the exact number of traffic cones that were used in lane closures in and around Fort Lee in 2013.

Posted by: The New York Times at January 14, 2014 12:49 PM (8ZskC)

9
You can't do scandals in dribs and drabs.
There's a window of opportunity in politics and this window is closed.
At this point, people tune out when they hear Benghazi.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 14, 2014 12:50 PM (gYIst)

10 "And yet nowhere in the record to we ever see any informed party offering up this false story. It seems cooked up entirely out of Hillary Clinton's office." You understand this. I understand this. There aren't any on the other side who will admit to this. There are a good many on our side who claim they understand this, but don't. Sometimes, it just doesn't seem worth the effort.

Posted by: jwest at January 14, 2014 12:50 PM (u2a4R)

11 Actually makes perfect sense to me. The Military Leadership nearest the scene knew it was a planned terrorist attack and passed it up the chain of command, thru the Pentagon, and on to the President's National Security Advisors who ARE POLITICAL APPOINTEES! And at that point the concept of terrorist attack did no jibe with this admin's pre-concieved notion that the war on terror was over. So they changed the narrative, as has already been reported, and the willing fools in the White House were glad to go along.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 12:50 PM (t3UFN)

12

The lying

 

The coverup

 

The lack of accountability

 

This Administration is a disgrace to our country.  I feel for those who serve under Bathhouse Barry and his fellow hacks.

Posted by: Doug from Smart Suburban Survival at January 14, 2014 12:50 PM (9apBV)

13 It all depends on what the definition of 'is' is. 

Posted by: Billy Jeff Clinton at January 14, 2014 12:51 PM (OZmbA)

14

It is an old story, and besides General Ham retired of his own volition.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 14, 2014 12:51 PM (eGmvn)

15 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 12:51 PM (PYAXX)

16 HE SAID TERRORIST !!ELEVENTY!

Posted by: Candy Ass Crowley at January 14, 2014 12:51 PM (hFL/3)

17 Are you saying they lied to us?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 12:51 PM (P6QsQ)

18
At this point, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at January 14, 2014 12:51 PM (n0DEs)

19 And yet nowhere in the record to we ever see any informed party offering up this false story. It seems cooked up entirely out of Hillary Clinton's office."


I'd love to see the Google search history out of that office on the day of the attack.  Seems like if someone were really interested, it might be worth looking into.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2014 12:51 PM (8ZskC)

20
Never mind that.

CHRIS CHRISTIE PUT FUCKING TRAFFIC CONES ON A FUCKING BRIDGE!!!   IMPEACH!!!!!

--- the MFM

Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2014 12:52 PM (nELVU)

21 I'm going to sit over here in this warm blanket of smug. And remind everyone that I actually *read* (word-for-depressing-word) the Benghazi document dump, and said from the beginning- "Obama knew, and actively chose to hamper operations to save Amb. Stevens." He is a fucking traitor- should be arrested, tried, convicted, and hanged.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 12:52 PM (PYAXX)

22 It was a lie. It was always a lie.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 14, 2014 12:53 PM (ZPrif)

23 They are who we thought there were, and nobody cares.

Posted by: toby928© at January 14, 2014 12:53 PM (QupBk)

24 This F C K U 'ing guy, what is he, MADE of teflon?

Posted by: Sphynx at January 14, 2014 12:53 PM (OZmbA)

25

Candy Crowley made it clear       during the presidential debate        that this whole incident was a terrorist attack and was treated as such     by the administration from the first moment.

 

Any ideas you have that anyone connected to the administration ever blamed a video are ridiculous - you must have hallucinated the whole thing.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 14, 2014 12:53 PM (eGmvn)

26 They did this because they didn't want bad things attributed to them before the election. That's the bottom line.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 12:53 PM (P6QsQ)

27 Where the fuck are the honorable men?  Where?  Wouldn't someone with principles resign and call this POS out?  Why aren't we hearing from anyone?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 14, 2014 12:53 PM (jucos)

28 You know what the most interesting part of this story is? Chris Christie!

Posted by: irright at January 14, 2014 12:53 PM (pMGkg)

29 This is the least egregious part of the scandal. Other more egregious parts that we already know: 1. The assets that could have helped stop the attack were not pre-placed into locations that had a reasonable response time to the attacks. 2. The security was stood down despite repeated urgent pleas for help before the attack. 3. After Obama was briefed, he had dinner with family and was incommunicado until the next day, knowing that what, 40 people were under assault by terrorists.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 14, 2014 12:54 PM (P7Wsr)

30 How can we dance When our earth is turning How do we sleep While our beds are burning How can we dance When our earth is turning How do we sleep While our beds are burning **** Oooh ecstasy--next on my to do list.

Posted by: Harry Reid Esq. at January 14, 2014 12:54 PM (RJMhd)

31 Yup and we have Breitbart Alums trying to argue "no it really was about the video" on Twitter....

Surreal...

Like I said before I plonked him:

I know when I go to protest a youtube vid I take 82mm mortars and invite my "non affiliated freelance" cousins.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 12:54 PM (TE35l)

32 And yet nowhere in the record to we ever see any informed party offering up this false story. It seems cooked up entirely out of Hillary Clinton's office." Actually I doubt it. I bet it was cooked up in the Office of the National Security Council- Susan Rice/ Samantha Powers/ Donilon. They changed the narrative and gave Rice her marching orders and only bothered to inform hillary after the fact.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 12:54 PM (t3UFN)

33 I'm just spitballin' here, but what if we blamed it on a video that insulted mohammed, or some shit like that?

Posted by: A State Department Meeting You'll Never Hear About at January 14, 2014 12:55 PM (8ZskC)

34

Bonhomme:

 

4.   The president told the rescue team to stand down.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (eGmvn)

35 The attack was so violent it cold only have been caused by a video.

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (8ZskC)

36
Meanwhile, House Republicans are about to Fully Fund obama until September. 1600 pages, btw.

Sequester? Over.
Funds for absurd research? Back in, baby!
Funds for green energy? They're back, too.

Pork? I can only guess how bad it will be. A whole lot of mischief can be funded in 1600 pages..


Posted by: soothsayer at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (gYIst)

37 Other more egregious parts that we already know: 1. The assets that could have helped stop the attack were not pre-placed into locations that had a reasonable response time to the attacks. 2. The security was stood down despite repeated urgent pleas for help before the attack. 3. After Obama was briefed, he had dinner with family and was incommunicado until the next day, knowing that what, 40 people were under assault by terrorists. Posted by: bonhomme at January 14, 2014 04:54 PM (P7Wsr) They are ripping the Military apart. Just read "Lone Survivor"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (t3UFN)

38 At this point, what difference does it make? Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at January 14, 2014 04:51 PM (n0DEs) None. But it probably would have made a big difference to you while you were taking it dry - like a man.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (yz6yg)

39 21 AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 04:52 PM (PYAXX)

Richard Grenell and I painted what happened with pretty good accuracy to Tapper using foreign news and our knowledge of procedure...

The media simply DID NOT WANT TO HEAR IT

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (TE35l)

40 Yup and we have Breitbart Alums trying to argue "no it really was about the video" on Twitter.... Surreal... ******** Really?

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (RJMhd)

41 Facebook was on fire last night with people saying this was the final mistake by Obama that would finish him. Pfffht. Shoulda Coulda etc.

Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (1Y+hH)

42 Why aren't we hearing from anyone? All the honorable men are dead or under watch by the Administration and gag orders.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (P7Wsr)

43 Its a trap.

Posted by: redenzo at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (WCnJW)

44

We're living in a world where we have shedloads of audio, video, written, and probably sung statements from this Administration that the  natives  were revolting over a video. 

 

In a sane world, that would mean these people are guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors, and should be locked up.

 

Instead, they were reelected. 

 

To paraphrase Stalin,  kill one of America's freedoms and it's a tragedy.  Kill a million, and it's a statistic. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2014 12:56 PM (TOk1P)

45 4. The president told the rescue team to stand down. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 14, 2014 04:56 PM (eGmvn) I don't think there ever was a viable rescue team and that in itself is a disgrace

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 12:57 PM (t3UFN)

46 It was a lie. It was always a lie.
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"Lie" is such a harsh word. Let's say a politically convenient tactical event.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 14, 2014 12:57 PM (XUKZU)

47 Obama has conceded the story was false. However, he and his defenders (by which I mean chiefly the media) insist that the false story was not a lie. They claim that they had legitimate reasons to believe a false story themselves. -------------------------------- I know this is upsetting to you, but here's the thing: Nobody Cares. Not the media, and not the Free Shitters, who outnumber us. No matter how many Mexicans and US Border Patrol agents get murdered with guns that Obama gave them, nobody cares. No matter how many conservatives are targeted for harassment by the IRS on Obama's orders, nobody cares. No matter how many of our ambassadors and overseas service personnel are murdered while Obama and Hillary listen in real time and don't lift a finger to help them, nobody fucking cares. Nobody Cares, and that is why it will burn.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 14, 2014 12:57 PM (CJjw5)

48 Obama went partying with his entertainment pals and the MSM didn't even have the integrity to ask a single question. Do you remember how hard it was to even get Jake Tapper to admit there might possibly be a story here? That's when I quit Twitter.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 12:57 PM (P6QsQ)

49 This is not the hill for us to die on.



(Amb. Stevens, Glen Doherty, Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith -- sadly,  on the other hand...)

Posted by: Repubes at January 14, 2014 12:57 PM (mSI+k)

50 Minutes after the American consulate in Benghazi came under assault on Sept. 11, 2012....

Not only did they know minutes after, but they still NEVER SENT A RESPONSE to help. 

Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at January 14, 2014 12:58 PM (n0DEs)

51 Benghazi? That's an ointment for sore joints, isn't it?

Posted by: Bridgegate Media at January 14, 2014 12:58 PM (eHIJJ)

52 38 Sean Bannion at January 14, 2014 04:56 PM (yz6yg)

I have a serious question for you Sean:

Are we too old fashioned to understand that the kids today REALLY do not give a fuck that we lost an Ambassador and feel that this attack undermines US sanctity of Diplomacy and Power?

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 12:58 PM (TE35l)

53 Don't forget: the JEF went to a fundraiser in Las Vegas before the bodies were cold.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 14, 2014 12:58 PM (VjL9S)

54 Nobody Cares, and that is why it will burn. THIS

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 14, 2014 12:58 PM (yz6yg)

55 4. The president told the rescue team to stand down. Do we know that, or do we assume based on who we believe has the power to give that order? Because in this Administration, I don't doubt that Jarret or Clinton could give that order and pass it to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and have him give the order, despite its illegality.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 14, 2014 12:59 PM (P7Wsr)

56
>It seems cooked up entirely out of Hillary Clinton's office.<

With the help of her flying monkeys.

Posted by: Yer Little Dog 2 at January 14, 2014 12:59 PM (bkTIc)

57 They got through the election.  That was most important.  Fuckers.

Posted by: eureka! at January 14, 2014 12:59 PM (xiXna)

58 48 grammie winger at January 14, 2014 04:57 PM (P6QsQ)

This is where Tapper and I became close enough we swapped pics of the kids.

Tapper was the only "face" on TV who even entertained the notion Giggles was lying.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 12:59 PM (TE35l)

59
The Republicans are bunglers.

There was only ONE question to ask from the beginning: Why wasn't help sent and who gave the order not to send it?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 14, 2014 12:59 PM (gYIst)

60 You know, at the time, when Susan Rice was peddling the video story, ANY news organization could have asked a handful of the wenises in Tripoli if they'd seen such and such video and what did they think. 

They could have made some freaking phone calls to find out if the video was really a THING in the Jihadi jurisdiction. But nobody did. They just ACCEPTED what to me seemed fake at the outset.

If Chris Christie were Barack Obama, the MFM would be saying, "Oh, traffic cones, oh, of course, that's reasonable."

Posted by: Sphynx at January 14, 2014 12:59 PM (OZmbA)

61

Do we know that, or do we assume based on who we believe has the power to give that order?

-

I    heard it came from the executive office, but you are correct, nobody knows who is actually calling the shots.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 14, 2014 01:00 PM (eGmvn)

62 I think it fits into the same category as the Hildabeast landing in Europe amidst gunfire and having to run across the tarmac to find cover. IOW, bullshit of the most liquid and vile category.

Posted by: tcn at January 14, 2014 01:00 PM (fwcEs)

63 We still don't know where Dear Leader was or what he was doing during the course of this attack. 

Posted by: Soona at January 14, 2014 01:00 PM (QyfjW)

64 This is the least egregious part of the scandal.

Other more egregious parts that we already know:
1. The assets that could have helped stop the attack were not pre-placed into locations that had a reasonable response time to the attacks.
2. The security was stood down despite repeated urgent pleas for help before the attack.
3. After Obama was briefed, he had dinner with family and was incommunicado until the next day, knowing that what, 40 people were under assault by terrorists.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 14, 2014 04:54 PM (P7Wsr)

------------

 

This!!!

I could give two shits about what caused the attack. Obama and crew left Americans out to hang when something could have been done. Fuck all those Commie pieces of shit that made that decision.

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 14, 2014 01:00 PM (Zswg6)

65 "Nobody Cares, and that is why it will burn. " This has been true for some time now. Obama's reelection sealed it.

Posted by: Meremortal at January 14, 2014 01:00 PM (1Y+hH)

66 They got through the election. That was most important. Fuckers.


Preserving Michelle's access to Lobster Thermidor should be our highest moral priority as a nation.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2014 01:00 PM (8ZskC)

67 bitter clingers! It happened A LONG TIME AGO. At this point, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Hillary got Rush's primary support, McCain got her PUMA general support at January 14, 2014 01:00 PM (MhA4j)

68 However, it defies reason to imagine that General Ham and the rest of them were told it was a "terrorist attack" but then immediately told Obama it was a spontaneous protest. ******* It also defies the complete timeline of events leading up to the second direct attack on the Benghazi consulate and-- something like the 30th attack on our assets or associated assets. Add to that the previous attacks on allied assets like the British --who got the hell -- out of Benghazi.

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 01:01 PM (RJMhd)

69 Because in this Administration, I don't doubt that Jarret or Clinton could give that order and pass it to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and have him give the order, despite its illegality. Posted by: bonhomme at January 14, 2014 04:59 PM (P7Wsr) There was no rescue team: 1) the F-16s at Siginella were unarmed 2) there was no C-130 Gunship 3) there were no Marines in Bengahzi or Tripoli

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 01:01 PM (t3UFN)

70 Nobody Cares, and that is why it will burn. -------- Yep, asked a friend about it during the election cycle. "What's Benghazi?" I explain. "Oh, no hadn't heard about that but I did hear something about the EU getting rid of Qaddafi because he was going to the gold standard. That's crazy isn't is!!!" And that pretty much ended the conversation.

Posted by: Adam at January 14, 2014 01:01 PM (Aif/5)

71 47 Empire of Jeff at January 14, 2014 04:57 PM (CJjw5)

It doesn't hurt anymore Jeff.

I'm just trying to figure out where we lost the country.

They can't make me give a fuck they're gay, or they're afraid of AGW, and I can't make them give a fuck about the foundations of US Power.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:01 PM (TE35l)

72 Nobody Cares, and that is why it will burn. And I, for one, welcome our pyrotechnical overlords.

Posted by: toby928© at January 14, 2014 01:01 PM (QupBk)

73

The only FB comments I ever get are about the weather, pets or family.  Once in a while someone quotes the last MSNBC outrage in an approving way.

Family.......aargh!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 14, 2014 01:01 PM (l3vZN)

74 Hillary Clinton wiping blood off her hands and doing the lying Americans won't do.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 14, 2014 01:01 PM (eHIJJ)

75

You know, at the time, when Susan Rice was peddling the video story, ANY news organization could have asked a handful of the wenises in Tripoli if they'd seen such and such video and what did they think.

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The press was sitting in on meetings with the president, and had access to internal communiques.  They were actively hiding the story.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 14, 2014 01:01 PM (eGmvn)

76 @58 Sven But he did not touch it till after the election. Only Sharyl Atkinson did, along with that Catherine Harridge I think from Fox, which of course Fox does not count.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 01:01 PM (P6QsQ)

77 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 14, 2014 04:58 PM (yz6yg) In fairness. I want to care. I'm just so tired of everyone else not caring that I've got a bit of a fatalist approach at this point.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 14, 2014 01:01 PM (GaqMa)

78

55 -

 

Yeah, we've heard these things numerous times:  "only the President could give  that order."

 

In a normal administration, that might be true.  This is not a normal administration. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2014 01:02 PM (TOk1P)

79 69 Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 05:01 PM (t3UFN)

Who chose that disposition in a shithole ran by terrorists?

Just wondering...wait I KNOW Mitt fucking Romney...


Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:02 PM (TE35l)

80 Are we too old fashioned to understand that the kids today REALLY do not give a fuck that we lost an Ambassador and feel that this attack undermines US sanctity of Diplomacy and Power? Yes. See the previous discussion about home/private school vs public school. I did not understand what all the hubub about Ambassadors and Embassies was about until I dug into Medieval history. Schools don't teach civics anymore. They don't explain why we should be proud to be Americans. In fact- they actively question that premise. As angry as we were that TFG said we weren't exceptional- public schools have been teaching that for at least 20 years. And probably longer.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 01:02 PM (PYAXX)

81 The millennium communist have taken over our country, get over it.

Posted by: redenzo at January 14, 2014 01:02 PM (WCnJW)

82 It was a telenovela!

Posted by: Cicero Kid. Now with more Spanglish! at January 14, 2014 01:02 PM (tcK++)

83 63 We still don't know where Dear Leader was or what he was doing during the course of this attack.

Posted by: Soona at January 14, 2014 05:00 PM (QyfjW)


Sure we do. Just find out where Reggie was and... there ya go.

Posted by: tcn at January 14, 2014 01:02 PM (fwcEs)

84 "It seems cooked up entirely out of Hillary Clinton's office." This was all that bitch Hillary's idea. I didn't know nothing.

Posted by: Barry O at January 14, 2014 01:03 PM (84b7V)

85 Riiiiiiing........ riiiiiing....... riiiiiiiing.........riiiiiiing..........riiiiiing.........riiiing

Posted by: The 3am Phone Call at January 14, 2014 01:03 PM (jucos)

86 I'll tell ya, the kids today don't know what hard work is.

"The REAL Caveman Diet: Research Shows Ancient Man Mainly Ate Tiger Nuts"--headline, FoxNews.com, Jan. 10

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 14, 2014 01:03 PM (XUKZU)

87 Candy Crowley made it clear during the presidential debate that this whole incident was a terrorist attack and was treated as such by the administration from the first moment.  Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 14, 2014 04:53 PM (eGmvn)

If I ever find myself drunk enough or dumb enough to care what Candy Crowley has to say, may a tribe of rabid chipmunks take up residence in my "mink".

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, shhh, be a little quieter, some of us are trying to sleep. at January 14, 2014 01:03 PM (kXoT0)

88 I heard it came from the executive office, but you are correct, nobody knows who is actually calling the shots. Aye. You would think that knowing who is actually ordering our military around would be of interest to all, both left and right.

Posted by: toby928© at January 14, 2014 01:03 PM (QupBk)

89 A most offensive video.

Posted by: redenzo at January 14, 2014 01:04 PM (WCnJW)

90 Obama was watching tv. Then he went to Vegas.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 01:04 PM (P6QsQ)

91 76 grammie winger at January 14, 2014 05:01 PM (P6QsQ)

He teased entertaining it on Twitter for about 4 days.

I think Obama was crying on the bed, went to Vegas after Worf punched him and was told betwixt.."we did put out that there were protests over this stupid video"...

and our "Indy newshounds" like Stanahan provided  them cover for their horsefuck story,

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:04 PM (TE35l)

92 Are we too old fashioned to understand that the kids today REALLY do not give a fuck that we lost an Ambassador and feel that this attack undermines US sanctity of Diplomacy and Power?

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 04:58 PM (TE35l)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

There's probably a large portion of kids as well as adults that have no idea what you're talking about when you mention Benghazi.  No idea whatsoever.

Posted by: Soona at January 14, 2014 01:04 PM (QyfjW)

93 Posted by: bonhomme at January 14, 2014 04:54 PM (P7Wsr) and 64. And no measures have been taken to prevent another. Make note of the ridicule v. US Military and American lives by the ugly Iranian politicians since Obama's latest 'bow' there.

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 14, 2014 01:04 PM (MhA4j)

94 I always spontaneously protest with mortars when I am upset at a movie. Just last weekend as a matter of fact I loaded up my mortars, rounded up some "friends" and gave the manager of the cineplex quite a scare. Don't think he will be showing Saving Mr. Banks anymore, no sir! p.s. NSA I am joking. It is a joke. I have no mortars. Or friends. Swearsies.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 14, 2014 01:04 PM (RZ8pf)

95 The Muslim Brotherhood in the CIA, NSA, DoS, and WH controlled the narrative.

Posted by: Haz at January 14, 2014 01:05 PM (Juwqe)

96 Preserving Michelle's access to Lobster Thermidor should be our highest moral priority as a nation.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2014 05:00 PM (8ZskC)


Can I send her down to the traps personally?

Posted by: tcn at January 14, 2014 01:05 PM (fwcEs)

97 Are we too old fashioned to understand that the kids today REALLY do not give a fuck that we lost an Ambassador and feel that this attack undermines US sanctity of Diplomacy and Power? Every Moron (the good kind) who has ever worn a uniform has been told the same thing. "We won't leave you behind." That's one of the things you do, you HAVE to do, to get people to run up a hill into interlocking fields of fire. They HOPE they're going home. They HOPE reinforcements are on the way. But often they know they're probably not going home. They just want to know that their body is. So imagine you're sitting on the roof of the Annex doing your fucking job, and you know, you just KNOW, your peers will come. You're not going down alone. Except you do. Imagine that one moment when the shit is hitting the fan all around you when you realize that no one gives a fuck. That moment when you realize "what difference does it make"? Imagine the size of that fucking pit of despair. Then you pick up your weapon and get back to work, because you're all you have. That's why Benghazi enrages me. I see red every time I think about it. It's also why I'd never recommend military service to anyone again. Because your country will hang you out to dry. And then go sleep like a baby. Fuck Obama. Fuck Hillary.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 14, 2014 01:05 PM (yz6yg)

98 This is not the Hill(ary) to die on.

Posted by: Repubes at January 14, 2014 01:05 PM (mSI+k)

99 10 "And yet nowhere in the record to we ever see any informed party offering up this false story. It seems cooked up entirely out of Hillary Clinton's office." You understand this. I understand this. Now you know why tfg named Shrillery as SoS. She is the Yoda of coverup and bullshit.

Posted by: Cicero Kid. Now with more Spanglish! at January 14, 2014 01:05 PM (tcK++)

100 Yeah, we've heard these things numerous times: "only the President could give that order." In a normal administration, that might be true. This is not a normal administration. So you're suggesting that the military obeyed an order from outside the chain-of-command? Because the only one who could legally give that order would be someone in CoC (which would specifically exclude ValJar, or Shrillary).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 01:05 PM (PYAXX)

101 I'd still like to hear Obama and Hillary's whereabouts and contact throughout the evening of 9/11. (I know, dream on - but that time gap is looking worse the more info comes out).

We're they so busy cooking up the video story they couldn't be bothered to send in support? Or were they busy and/or so incapacitated they couldn't be bothered to anything at all?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 14, 2014 01:05 PM (POpqt)

102 80 AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 05:02 PM (PYAXX)

We're gonna eat a nuke in the next 15-25 years.
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Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:05 PM (TE35l)

103 Hilarity Clingon:   suspend disbelief

Posted by: jb at January 14, 2014 01:05 PM (3tdHf)

104 I despise the GOP more every day. They are weak.

Posted by: Mandrake at January 14, 2014 01:05 PM (Cs2tJ)

105 As in a tiger's nuts? Now that is just straight up mean.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 14, 2014 01:06 PM (RZ8pf)

106 The Muslim Brotherhood in the CIA, NSA, DoS, and WH controlled the narrative.

Posted by: Haz at January 14, 2014 05:05 PM (Juwqe)


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You forgot the DOJ......


Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2014 01:06 PM (nELVU)

107 There's probably a large portion of kids as well as adults that have no idea what you're talking about when you mention Benghazi. No idea whatsoever.

Posted by: Soona at January 14, 2014 05:04 PM (QyfjW)

 

 

dude, that is the new SUV Kendal Kardashian-Jenner just crashed

Posted by: LIV and lovin it at January 14, 2014 01:06 PM (W6iIX)

108 92. Soona Benghazi, in which zoo does that tiger live?

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 14, 2014 01:06 PM (MhA4j)

109 Bad dream.

Posted by: toby928© at January 14, 2014 01:07 PM (QupBk)

110 97 Sean Bannion at January 14, 2014 05:05 PM (yz6yg)

Thanks.

Yeah pretty much.

It's gonna take a nuke and then a riot by the right to scourge the fucking moonbat buttthrust response to get any sanity back about foreign affairs.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:07 PM (TE35l)

111 President Rodman is an asshole.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 14, 2014 01:07 PM (ZshNr)

112 But the NYT just told me last week that it was because of the video....

Posted by: runningrn at January 14, 2014 01:07 PM (o6g4X)

113 @97 Sean Bannion. It is hard for me to read that post. I need to take a walk or something.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 14, 2014 01:07 PM (P6QsQ)

114 If I ever find myself drunk enough or dumb enough to care what Candy Crowley has to say, may a tribe of rabid chipmunks take up residence in my "mink". No mink, no purchase. Sounds like this is the place to have the fortnightly Moron debate on hardwood vs. carpet.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 14, 2014 01:07 PM (yz6yg)

115 This is a large part of why I say "burn it down." My kids have a much better chance of seeing a better future if it collapses now, rather than waiting 5, 10, or 15 years.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 01:08 PM (PYAXX)

116 Benghazi is a perfect illustration of the GOP, and why I left the Party.

Posted by: nip at January 14, 2014 01:08 PM (jI23+)

117 This country is done. Stick a fork in her. Libtards won. They've captured the schools and the media. I don't see another party capable of winning another election, honest or otherwise.

Posted by: Titanium at January 14, 2014 01:08 PM (JLKJJ)

118

It seems like more research and work was done to find this obscure video to blame than actual work done to prepare for the actual terrorist attack. But wait, maybe that is how they prepared for it?

Posted by: RGallegos at January 14, 2014 01:08 PM (HekzY)

119 Sounds like this is the place to have the fortnightly Moron debate on hardwood vs. carpet.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 14, 2014 05:07 PM (yz6yg)


Have you seen a thermometer lately? This is winter, and I vote carpet, for self-preservation. There are some parts I'd rather not freeze off.

Posted by: tcn at January 14, 2014 01:09 PM (fwcEs)

120 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 14, 2014 05:05 PM (yz6yg) I have a friend, who's in a branch of the military. Was ROTC. He even convinced his wife (who's of the "no war for oil!" types) to let him re-up when his first term ended. He had planned to do his time and then retire. not anymore. He's bailing so fast he doesn't even know if he'll have anything lined up when he gets out. He just wants out.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 14, 2014 01:09 PM (GaqMa)

121 ugh, just the sound of the name candy crowley just a spoon full of sugar helps you swallow crow...

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 14, 2014 01:09 PM (MhA4j)

122 94 Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 14, 2014 05:04 PM (RZ8pf)

Yeah the guy then goes all "I never said that are you this acerbic and obtuse in your real life?"

and I was thinking "yeah actually when faced with this sort of fucktarded idiocy I am pretty much dumbass..."

but rather than get Twitmo'd I just sent him a link to the Penis Pump thread and told him to find a way to spin THIS for team donkey...

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:09 PM (TE35l)

123 Benghazi is a perfect illustration of the GOP, and why I left the Party. Posted by: nip at January 14, 2014 05:08 PM (jI23+) ?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 01:10 PM (t3UFN)

124

100 -

 

What I am suggesting is I don't know.  And neither do you. 

 

How would such an order be transmitted anyway?   Does  the President has to get on the phone and call  it in? 

 

I'm guessing it's a code on a screen.  So yes, I'm suggesting Valerie Jarrett  knows  every  single code  that guy who was elected knows. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2014 01:10 PM (TOk1P)

125 Have you seen a thermometer lately? This is winter, and I vote carpet, for self-preservation. There are some parts I'd rather not freeze off. Posted by: tcn at January 14, 2014 05:09 PM (fwcEs) WellllllÂ….ummmmmÂ….. Several members of the Horde would volunteer to keep it warm. Â…as long as it were hardwood.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 14, 2014 01:11 PM (yz6yg)

126

When the shooting started ...

What I saw at the coup

http://tinyurl.com/9592nav


 

Posted by: drowningpuppies at January 14, 2014 01:11 PM (012vu)

127 My kids have a much better chance of seeing a better future if it collapses now, rather than waiting 5, 10, or 15 years.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 05:08 PM (PYAXX)


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That.... and....I dont want to be seventy when we as a society agree to live by Thunderdome Rules.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2014 01:11 PM (nELVU)

128 Â…as long as it were hardwood. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 14, 2014 05:11 PM (yz6yg) Ooooh! I like hardwood.

Posted by: Barney Frank at January 14, 2014 01:12 PM (PYAXX)

129 >>Nobody Cares, and that is why it will burn.

You know cares, right? AQ, Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, Hamas, China, Russia, Israel. Might as well have taken out a flashing neon billboard over the White House proclaiming "The War on Terror Is Over. We Surrendered. Have At It."

Posted by: Lizzy at January 14, 2014 01:12 PM (POpqt)

130 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 14, 2014 05:07 PM (yz6yg) Area rugs. Wait we are talking about hour houses right .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 14, 2014 01:12 PM (GaqMa)

131 This is where Tapper and I became close enough we swapped pics of the kids. Tapper was the only "face" on TV who even entertained the notion Giggles was lying. Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 04:59 PM (TE35l) ************** Well Tapper when he was at ABC only published the email of-- Ambassador Stevens asking for a DC-3 so that at least the greatly reduced in numbers security team could cover both the Embassy central in Tripoli-- and get to the Consulate in Benghazi. That email doesn't exactly match the party line of-- Ambassador Stevens requests were honored and he essentially asked for this by asking for smaller security. That isn't supported by his emails. Tapper never got that on the airwaves did he? It stayed buried online till FOX got it. And let's add-- Doherty did not arrive till NINE hours later. Woods was with his men alone until they arrived from Tripoli-- because Doherty and his few had to CHARTER a gawd damn plane in Tripoli. Even people HERE think Doherty reached the Consulate WITH Woods. Not the case. A Damn nine hour delay--IIRC. It could be worse than that I really can't remember--but considering how long Woods hanged on and then both of them lasted--just imagine how things might have pivoted earlier in the attack *IF* Ambassador Steven's request for a DC-3 had been honored. He might still be alive today and perhaps his rescuers who DISOBEYED orders. (IOW don't overly kiss Tapper's ass because you think he's your twitter friend--it's bull)

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 01:12 PM (RJMhd)

132 Candy Crowley is just a Piers Morgan pube hair away from being an MSNBC anchor.

Posted by: Sphynx at January 14, 2014 01:12 PM (OZmbA)

133 Several members of the Horde would volunteer to keep it warm.

Â…as long as it were hardwood.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 14, 2014 05:11 PM (yz6yg)


Sweetie, my name's not Fluck.

Posted by: tcn at January 14, 2014 01:12 PM (fwcEs)

134 When the shooting started ...
What I saw at the coup
http://tinyurl.com/9592nav


Posted by: drowningpuppies at January 14, 2014 05:11 PM (012vu)


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Awesome reads.  Both of them.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2014 01:12 PM (nELVU)

135 -
"So, was Panetta confused about the nature of the attack..."

I get confused about the nature of my underwear.

Posted by: Joey "Shotgun" Biden at January 14, 2014 01:12 PM (8GKDa)

136 How would such an order be transmitted anyway? Does the President has to get on the phone and call it in? If he has provided ValJar with his security codes, then he is responsible for any order she gives. Which means it doesn't matter. That said, yes, I'm pretty sure that would be a conference call in the situation room kind of thing.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 01:13 PM (PYAXX)

137 It's almost as if Barry is a lying sack of shit who will say and do anything to promote his agenda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 14, 2014 01:13 PM (1Jaio)

138 Are you ready for Hillary?

Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2014 01:13 PM (BhGVB)

139 A lie can travel half way around the world with the truth is putting on it's shoes.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 14, 2014 01:13 PM (jucos)

140

I don't care if we would have be 12 hours late to the scene,  our military forces should have responded in force.    Libya was not  the normal sovereign country.  It was a country in transition that we just recently bombed without any concurrence of the UN.  

 

To be consistent,  I am still pissed at Reagan for withdrawing from Lebannon without blowing a portion of  Lebannon or Iran to smithereens and Clinton for not turning Somalia into one big airfield.   

 

Also,  even though our response and the reasoning coverup of the aftermath  is bad,  I think  what preceeded the attack and ignoring warnings  is what needs to be focused on. 

Posted by: polynikes at January 14, 2014 01:13 PM (m2CN7)

141 Just called the wife and asked if I should put the pre-planned dinner n the oven (turkey breast and potatoes) or not. Because my timing was impeccable, her response was "Should I just get something on the way home?". She's hungry, she doesn't want to wait 45 mins once she gets home. Winning, because no watching the oven, losing because eating a randomly assigned Sonic sandwich is now my fate.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 14, 2014 01:14 PM (ZshNr)

142 111 But the NYT just told me last week that it was because of the video....

Posted by: runningrn at January 14, 2014 05:07 PM (o6g4X)


So several days prior to the report being released the butt licking commie loving NYT publishes a cover  story to confuse the masses.  Interesting that. 

Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 14, 2014 01:14 PM (GgPam)

143 122-No fight, no outrage, no impeachment, no nothing. I did not give up, I just bang my head on a Libertarian wall now. The good news is, Amnesty. What could go wrong.

Posted by: nip at January 14, 2014 01:14 PM (jI23+)

144 How would such an order be transmitted anyway? Does the President has to get on the phone and call it in?

If he has provided ValJar with his security codes, then he is responsible for any order she gives. Which means it doesn't matter.

That said, yes, I'm pretty sure that would be a conference call in the situation room kind of thing.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 05:13 PM (PYAXX)



It would look just like the photo of them deciding to take out Bin Laden, all the folks in charge bellied up to the table with laptops and briefing papers with a confused looking Barky Photoshopped into the background.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, shhh, be a little quieter, some of us are trying to sleep. at January 14, 2014 01:15 PM (kXoT0)

145  They must have been terrified the attack would hurt their chances at re-relection, given the diplomats seem to be the kind of people lefties care about.

Posted by: Baldy at January 14, 2014 01:15 PM (2bql3)

146 But did the terrorists blow up a bridge? I think not.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 14, 2014 01:15 PM (QF8uk)

147 130 Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 05:12 PM (RJMhd)

I don't kiss Tapper's ass Grenell used his knowledge of State to show that Bermuda has more State dept money for security than Libya had.  I explained FEST protocol to Tapper and how the willful decision would have had to have been made not to have mission readiness in Africom for this.  We tried....

Tapper and I had it out to the point he almost blocked me, and I wound up nuking my account for 8 months.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:15 PM (TE35l)

148 So you're suggesting that the military obeyed an order from outside the chain-of-command? Because the only one who could legally give that order would be someone in CoC (which would specifically exclude ValJar, or Shrillary). Given what we know about Benghazi, why haven't any of the Generals involved blown the lid off the thing? General Carter Ham knows all sorts of information that he, for the sake of Honor and the lives of his men, should be speaking out about. He is not. Do you think someone who does such a thing would point blank tell Shrillary or Jarret to stuff themselves? I would hope yes, but given his actions, I question it.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 14, 2014 01:15 PM (P7Wsr)

149 Is the guy who made the video still rotting in jail?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 14, 2014 01:16 PM (1Jaio)

150 Most serious college kids trying to graduate and get jobs were ALREADY burned by Obama and ready to vote against him last round. Until the GOP insisted on Mitt's Ticket to Obamalite. At that point, too easy for the uninspired and disillusioned to say, "At this point, what difference does it make?" I don't think Hillary will have the votes. IF she gets the ticket, what she'll have is the handlers to make it happen. Voters aren't ignorant about the Clintons. So when a voter supports a Clinton, it is obvious to everyone just how far down the hell hole that person exists.

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 14, 2014 01:16 PM (MhA4j)

151 Damn it-- does anyone remember how many hours later Doherty arrived because he flipping had to charter a plane in Tripoli? Don't know why I am grabbing onto nine hours.

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 01:16 PM (RJMhd)

152 It was a workplace incident.  Nothing more.  Go  on about  your  lives.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 14, 2014 01:16 PM (BAS5M)

153 Also, even though our response and the reasoning coverup of the aftermath is bad, I think what preceeded the attack and ignoring warnings is what needs to be focused on. Posted by: polynikes
...........
Amen.  Whoever runs against Hillary should make that point early and often.  She doomed those poor bastards with her incompetence.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 14, 2014 01:16 PM (f9c2L)

154 My kids have a much better chance of seeing a better future if it collapses now, rather than waiting 5, 10, or 15 years.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 05:08 PM (PYAXX)

 

 

------------------------------------------

 

 

Teach them the idea that sometimes people have to sacrifice everything (material) including their lives for freedom. 

 

And the sacrifice will come.  It's just up to us whether it's to the tyrants or for the Constitution.

Posted by: Soona at January 14, 2014 01:17 PM (QyfjW)

155 So the President knew the consulate was under attack within minutes, then let everyone in the consulate twist in the wind for the next 8-10 hours while he went about his ass covering.  I'm old enough to remember when that would have been a story the press was interested in.

Posted by: Joe at January 14, 2014 01:17 PM (7pOq5)

156 Hell I think Doherty ended up having to COMMANDEER the damn plane. Trying to find it.

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 01:17 PM (RJMhd)

157 Actually I doubt it. I bet it was cooked up in the Office of the National Security Council- Susan Rice/ Samantha Powers/ Donilon. They changed the narrative and gave Rice her marching orders and only bothered to inform hillary after the fact.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 04:54 PM (t3UFN)

 

Tom Donilon is a Hillary guy. He doesn't go to the crapper without a permission slip from Hillary.

Posted by: troyriser at January 14, 2014 01:18 PM (2jF2B)

158 I hate them

Posted by: thunderb at January 14, 2014 01:18 PM (BhGVB)

159 It could be worse than that I really can't remember--but considering how long Woods hanged on and then both of them lasted--just imagine how things might have pivoted earlier in the attack

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Wasnt it Woods that was on the roof lasing a target when that mortar round hit??

I cant get the image of a man killed while lazing a target for a strike that was never coming.

I keep asking why were they lazing???  If there were no assets in the area, WTF were they lazing?  A trained SEAL would not be on the roof lazing if he thought that CAS was not enroute.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2014 01:18 PM (nELVU)

160 I don't care if we would have be 12 hours late to the scene, our military forces should have responded in force. Libya was not the normal sovereign country. It was a country in transition that we just recently bombed without any concurrence of the UN. THIS You know what savages understand? Brute force. There should have been a CIF on site as soon as fucking possible and an AC-130 pounding the shit out of anything that moved as that "late" rescue team went looking for the borderline hominids that attacked a U.S. asset. But no. Because Obama's an America-hating metrosexual. He couldn't be bothered to help real men. The contrast would be too jarring.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 14, 2014 01:18 PM (yz6yg)

161 Whoever runs against Hillary should make that point early and often. She doomed those poor bastards with her incompetence malicious indifference. FIFY. It wasn't mere incompetence, it was an affirmative decision based on politics rather than the safety of our people.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 01:18 PM (PYAXX)

162 "But the NYT just told me last week that it was because of the video...."

And spontaneous demonstrations always bring zeroed-in mortars. Don't you?

Posted by: Brown Line at January 14, 2014 01:18 PM (VrNoa)

163 You all are missing the entire fucking story.  And fucking us all in the process.

Ace, you yourself quote above 'the next morning he was told...'

WHERE THE FUCK WAS OBAMA THAT NIGHT?

HE STILL HASN'T SAID.

No one will push him on WHERE THE  FUCK WAS HE THAT NIGHT AND WHY WAS VALERIE JARRETT IN CHARGE.

I gots my reasons for being so pissed about this.  Those that know me know why.  I live this shit.

Posted by: Mr Wolf at January 14, 2014 01:19 PM (mXNVC)

164

147 -

 

I just don't think we can know how any of this stuff works in  this administration.

 

And yes, I am dead certain there are people with stars on their uniforms who are fully bought and sold by this administration. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 14, 2014 01:19 PM (TOk1P)

165 However, he and his defenders (by which I mean chiefly the media) --- Goes without saying at this point.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 14, 2014 01:19 PM (Wp8ly)

166 154 Joe at January 14, 2014 05:17 PM (7pOq5)

He went to bed...

stayed in bed actually IIRC, he had a dinner date with Jay-Z and Beyonce and a Champagne tower baby....

someone popped him in the eye over the first two days...

you could see the make-up in an interview with one of the infotainment interviews he was doing while dodging the media.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:19 PM (TE35l)

167 Well, if Hillary is the Chosen One, then why are they working so f@cking hard to blow Christie completely out of the water?  My bet is because Christie has prettier and bigger tatas than Hillary and other than that, they are pretty much interchangeable.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, shhh, be a little quieter, some of us are trying to sleep. at January 14, 2014 01:19 PM (kXoT0)

168 I still want to see when the tanker support launched. That will tell you if they tried, or if White House just wrote them off.

Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2014 01:19 PM (4JkHl)

169 On 11 Sep 2001, the first strangers I encountered on my way home were drawing peace signs and lighting candles. In a Jewish neighborhood. We didn't even know how many were killed yet, "just" that it was thousands.

Posted by: Baldy at January 14, 2014 01:20 PM (2bql3)

170 I'm pretty sure Jon Stewart arched an eyebrow and scoffed at the notion this was an issue, so I'm satisfied.

Posted by: LIV at January 14, 2014 01:20 PM (kUgpq)

171 Obama was enjoying some of Reggie's love that night. He couldn't be bothered.

Posted by: Titanium at January 14, 2014 01:20 PM (JLKJJ)

172 Tom Donilon is a Hillary guy. He doesn't go to the crapper without a permission slip from Hillary. Posted by: troyriser at January 14, 2014 05:18 PM (2jF2B) I don't know his relation with pants suit but he was under jarrett's thumb in the White House, that I do know

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 01:21 PM (t3UFN)

173 155 Hell I think Doherty ended up having to COMMANDEER the damn plane. Trying to find it. ------- According to wiki the paid two pilots $30K and "forced" then to go to Benghazi. No specific time on when they got there, just several hours after the attack began.

Posted by: Adam at January 14, 2014 01:21 PM (Aif/5)

174 Okay I am off on that time interval. **** CIA Timeline Confirms: Woods and Doherty Killed in Benghazi 7Hrs After WH Told of Attack; Commercial Airliner Can Fly From London to Libya and Back in That Time November 4, 2012 - 12:38 AM By Terence P. Jeffrey President Barack Obama speaking at the U.N. General Assembly on Sept. 25, where he talked at length about a "disgusting video" that had been posted on YouTube and that U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice had earlier pointed to as the root cause of the 9/11/12 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. (AP Photo/Richard Drew) (CNSNews.com) - What David Ignatius of The Washington Post describes as a “detailed CIA timeline” of the events that unfolded in Libya on Sept. 11, 2012 (and in the early hours of Sept. 12), confirms that former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were not killed until seven hours after the State Department informed the White House—in writing--that the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi was under attack and that U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens was in Benghazi where the attack was taking place. The attack started at 3:40 p.m Washington, D.C. time. The State Department sent the White House an email at 4:05 pm with this subject line: “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack.” The email said Amb. Stevens was in Benghazi. According to the CIA timeline provided to the Washington Post and other news organizations, Woods and Doherty were killed by mortar fire while on the roof of a CIA facility in Benghazi between 11:15 p.m. and 11:26 p.m. Washington time—or between 5:15 a.m. and 5:26 a.m. Sept. 12 Benghazi time. Between 4:05 p.m. Washington time, when the State Department emailed the White House that the U.S diplomatic mission in Benghazi was under attack, and 11:15 p.m., when Wood and Doherty were killed, more than seven hours passed. On Expedia.com, British Airways is currently advertizing a non-stop flight from London to Libya on Nov. 15--via an Airbus A320--that is expected to have a duration of 3 hours and 30 minutes. That means that in the seven hours that elapsed between when the State Department informed the White House that the U.S. mission in Benghazi was under attack and when Woods and Doherty were killed, a common commercial airliner—not a military jet--could have flown from England to Libya and back. White House National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, according to reporting by CBS News, personally informed President Obama of the ongoing attack in Benghazi before Obama went into a pre-scheduled 5:00 p.m. meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Vice President Joe Biden. (On Tuesday, CNSNews.com asked the Defense Department whether this previously scheduled meeting between Obama and Panetta had in fact taken place, whether Panetta was aware at that time of the ongoing attack in Benghazi that the State Department had reported to both the Pentagon and the White House at 4:05 p.m., and whether the president had used that meeting to discuss with Panetta what should be done to defend the Americans in Benghazi. Lt. Col. Todd Breasseale, a department spokesman, told CNSNews.com at that time: “Panetta met with President Obama, as the White House-provided scheduled indicates. However, neither the content nor the subject of discussions between the President and his advisers are appropriate for disclosure.”) CBS reported that after National Security Adviser Donilon initially notified Obama of the Benghazi attack just before the 5:00 p.m. meeting with Panetta the president was subsequently “updated several times throughout the evening.” The CIA timeline was provided to some news organizations on Thursday to demonstrate that the administration was getting a bum rap from those who said it reacted too slowly to the 9/11/12 terrorist attack in Libya. According to the timeline, as published by the Associated Press, a security team left the CIA annex in Benghazi to go to the aid of the nearby consulate less than 25 minutes after the attack started at 9:40 p.m Benghazi time (3:40 p.m. Washington time). This team included former Navy Seal Tyrone Woods, Ignatius reported in the Washington Post. It rescued some people at the consulate, sending them back to the CIA annex. By 11:30 p.m. this security team itself left the consulate to return--while being attacked--to the CIA annex. In the meantime, as the Los Angeles Times reported of the timeline, another security team came from Tripoli to Benghazi aboard a chartered airplane. “he CIA also sent a second six-member team from Tripoli on a chartered plane to help repel the attack," reported the Times. "This team included Glen Doherty, another former SEAL, who was later killed when attackers fired mortar rounds at the CIA Annex." After making the short flight from Tripoli to Benghazi, however, the CIA security team had a very difficult time trying to get from the Benghazi airport to the CIA annex to which their colleagues had retreated when they left the consulate. The AP story on the timeline says that the CIA security team from Tripoli arrived at the Benghazi airport at 1:00 a.m., but then could not “find a ride into town." “Around 1 a.m., a team of additional security personnel from Tripoli lands at the Benghazi airport and attempts to find a ride into town. Upon learning that Stevens is missing and that the situation at the CIA annex has calmed, the team focuses on locating Stevens and obtaining information about the security situation at the hospital,” reported the AP. “Before dawn, the team at the airport finally manages to secure transportation and armed escort,” said the AP. At 1:00 a.m. Benghazi time, when the AP says these security reinforcements arrived at the Benghazi airport, it was 7:00 p.m. Washington, D.C. time—or about three hours after the White House had first learned of the attack David Ignatius at the Washington Post reported that the security reinforcements from Tripoli arrived at the Benghazi airport at 1:15 a.m., but did not leave the airport until 4:30 a.m. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/cia-timeline- confirms-woods-and-doherty-killed-benghazi-7hrs- after-wh-told-attack#sthash.4tyUIfkt.dpuf

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 01:22 PM (RJMhd)

175 On 11 Sep 2001, the first strangers I encountered on my way home were drawing peace signs and lighting candles. In a Jewish neighborhood. We didn't even know how many were killed yet, "just" that it was thousands. Posted by: Baldy at January 14, 2014 05:20 PM (2bql3) What does that mean?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 14, 2014 01:22 PM (t3UFN)

176 158 fixerupper at January 14, 2014 05:18 PM (nELVU)

The QRF arrangements had gone through SEVERE changes in the 90 days prior.

There had been D-boys and in zone air cover.

It was pulled because "peace"...actually my best no bullshit attempt to live in Obama and Hillary!'s eyeballs says they wanted Libya to be "as safe as England diplomatic wise" in order to prevent Mitt from nailing him on his use of the USAF and USNAFV as air cover for radical Islam...

we pulled our security for a lie....two lies actually because Egypt fell to shit too.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:22 PM (TE35l)

177 oh and FUCK JOHN MCCAIN for giving bi-partisan fucking cover to his every fucking whim

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:23 PM (TE35l)

178 Any President who hears "Consulate under attack" and doesn't immediately freak out with full force is not an American President. Has to be the first impulse.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 14, 2014 01:24 PM (ZshNr)

179 Hah. Love to find a way to get Sean BannionÂ’s rant as a full-page ad in the NYT.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 14, 2014 01:24 PM (QF8uk)

180 Sarah Palin personally paid General Ham, Secretary Panetta, and General Dempsey 30 shekels each to tell Obama and Hillary that it was not a terrorist attack.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 14, 2014 01:24 PM (DhGW2)

181 According to wiki the paid two pilots $30K and "forced" then to go to Benghazi. No specific time on when they got there, just several hours after the attack began. Posted by: Adam at January 14, 2014 05:21 PM (Aif/5) *********** Thanks. I forgot they were held up at the airport in Benghazi for so long.

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 01:24 PM (RJMhd)

182 Well, just trace all the Muslim Brotherhood connections in this administration and then this all makes more sense.  Arab Spring, Benghazi, Nukes for Ahmadinejad, and so on and so forth....

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, shhh, be a little quieter, some of us are trying to sleep. at January 14, 2014 01:25 PM (kXoT0)

183 Hah. Love to find a way to get Sean BannionÂ’s rant as a full-page ad in the NYT. Meh. Pick any commenter at Blackfive, they do it better than I do.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 14, 2014 01:25 PM (yz6yg)

184 Fox has gone off the deep end on that SCOTUS ruling this morning:


FEDERAL COURT STRIKES DOWN an FCC ruling meant to ensure equal access to all types of content — meaning an Internet service provider, such as Verizon, may soon be able to charge you based on the type of content you watch or the sites you visit.



They evidently have some kind of stake in this crap.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 14, 2014 01:25 PM (T2V/1)

185 Look, if romney didn't distract the media the msm would have chased this story down without fear or favor. So really we have nobody to blame but romney.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 14, 2014 01:26 PM (HJcb1)

186 The truth must always be determined scientifically, using nothing but the anally-retentive scientific method. Are General Ham, Secretary Panetta, and General Dempsey scientists? No? Then what do they know?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 14, 2014 01:26 PM (DhGW2)

187 Each of Ace's posts, today, should fill up hours and hours of news reports and real journalism from the MSM. Each separately. It's impossible to say "slow news day" with this administration. There is nothing "slow" about any of this ongoing criminality.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 14, 2014 01:26 PM (IXrOn)

188 So really we have nobody to blame but romney. You forgot your close your / sarc tag

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 14, 2014 01:26 PM (yz6yg)

189 184 Look, if romney didn't distract the media the msm would have chased this story down without fear or favor.

So really we have nobody to blame but romney.

Posted by: Kreplach


Now that's funny right there.

Posted by: Sphynx at January 14, 2014 01:27 PM (OZmbA)

190 I believe my programmed response is supposed to be 'what difference does it make?'

Posted by: --- at January 14, 2014 01:27 PM (MMC8r)

191 So really we have nobody to blame but romney.   Posted by: Kreplach at January 14, 2014 05:26 PM (HJcb1)

It was that smart-ass "dancing" horse of Ann's.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, shhh, be a little quieter, some of us are trying to sleep. at January 14, 2014 01:28 PM (kXoT0)

192

Look, if romney didn't distract the media the msm would have chased this story down without fear or favor.

-

Funny, that tends to prove treason on the part of the press.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 14, 2014 01:28 PM (eGmvn)

193 Are General Ham, Secretary Panetta, and General Dempsey scientists? No? Then what do they know? Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 14, 2014 05:26 PM (DhGW2) I'm very good at integral and differential calculus; I know the scientific names of beings animalculous: In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral, I am the very model of a modern Major-General.

Posted by: GEN Martin Dempsey, USA[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 14, 2014 01:28 PM (yz6yg)

194 I believe my programmed response is supposed to be 'what difference does it make?' I didn't watch you type that, but I hope you shook your tiny fists and squinted your eyes and shrieked that, to get the full effect.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 14, 2014 01:29 PM (P7Wsr)

195
I'm curious: What will be the Republican's case against Hillary when she's the D nominee in 2016?

Really, name two things, other than obamacare, they'll use to run against her.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 14, 2014 01:29 PM (gYIst)

196 So, before any of the LIV dumbasses or the LIB assholes pay any attention to Benghazi and what really happened, somebody will have to make a "Blackhawk Down" style movie about it, starring Ted Danson as the raped ambassador.

Posted by: Sphynx at January 14, 2014 01:29 PM (OZmbA)

197 Bill Nye, on the other hand, wiped the sperm off of his mouth long enough to tell Obama and Hillary that terrorism had nothing to do with it. At which point, the science became settled. Because Consensus.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 14, 2014 01:29 PM (DhGW2)

198 starring Ted Danson as the raped ambassador. I sure he's a "Method" actor.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 14, 2014 01:30 PM (yz6yg)

199 You all are missing the entire fucking story. And fucking us all in the process.


Posted by: Mr Wolf

Oh, do tell us more our problems.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 14, 2014 01:30 PM (qK0Al)

200 Chris Christie personally ordered the Benghazi Terrorist Attack. And he then proceeded to ingest a lot of dough nuts. He's just that evil.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 14, 2014 01:30 PM (DhGW2)

201 And let's not forget the photo of Steven's body being paraded through the streets and Hildebeast saying they were taking him to the hospital.

Posted by: Soona at January 14, 2014 01:31 PM (QyfjW)

202

Pretty close to a rage stroke.  Might need a break from all of this.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 14, 2014 01:31 PM (jucos)

203 ---- Wasnt it Woods that was on the roof lasing a target when that mortar round hit?? I cant get the image of a man killed while lazing a target for a strike that was never coming. I keep asking why were they lazing??? If there were no assets in the area, WTF were they lazing? A trained SEAL would not be on the roof lazing if he thought that CAS was not enroute. Posted by: fixerupper at January 14, 2014 05:18 PM (nELVU) ********* Well the hypothesis argument I hear about that is it was a last ditch effort --gamble on Woods part to get the Al Qaeda troops to run and give up the fixed position.

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 01:31 PM (RJMhd)

204 LIB as in Liberal, not Let It Burn.

Posted by: Sphynx at January 14, 2014 01:31 PM (OZmbA)

205 Her lifetime of failures? From a phony law career to an aborted Healthcare shitstain to accidentally bonking her head and being unable to testify to Congress? She's a rancid freakshow of failure.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 14, 2014 01:32 PM (ZshNr)

206 Let's not bicker and argue over Benghazi and who killed who.  What's important is that Obama had all plans for a rapid response team ready to go but was forced to shelve them after the Republicans passed the sequester.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at January 14, 2014 01:32 PM (kUgpq)

207 Hillary 2008: Who will answer that 3am phonecall? Hillary 2012: What phone call?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 14, 2014 01:33 PM (qIFL7)

208 184 Look, if romney didn't distract the media the msm would have chased this story down without fear or favor. So really we have nobody to blame but romney. Posted by: Kreplach at January 14, 2014 05:26 PM (HJcb1) ******* Ya--wasn't that Tapper's line or justification?

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 01:33 PM (RJMhd)

209 What should have happened after Benghazi is that every single US Ambassador should've flown themselves and their families home and then stalked into the WH and personally handed Bobo, Hillary, and ValJar their resignation.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at January 14, 2014 01:33 PM (kXoT0)

210 Nice Federal Judge Overturns OK Marriage Law...

invokes 14th Amendment....

so we can all smoke pot now right?

LIB

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:33 PM (TE35l)

211 Is Wrecker, Thought Criminal, and Enemy of the People Nakoula Nakoula still in gulag?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 14, 2014 01:34 PM (DhGW2)

212 206 Hillary 2008: Who will answer that 3am phonecall?

Hillary 2012: What phone call?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 14, 2014 05:33 PM (qIFL7)



I'm off to Vegas. See ya when I see ya!

Posted by: Barry O at January 14, 2014 01:34 PM (OZmbA)

213 I'm still at a loss as to why there was (is) any question that it was a preplanned terrorist attack. Shit. All I had to do was look at a calendar.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at January 14, 2014 01:34 PM (zxrQh)

214

What's different now?

I mean...what's different now from 2012?

 

Barky has been proven to be the big Liar that we all knew he is.

 

He lied about ObamaCare to get reelected.

This is now common knowledge.

 

So now, it's not so farfetched for people to realize that...

He lied about Benghazi to get reelected.

...And stood by while our people got slaughtered. 

 

If he will lie about something as important as Healthcare...he'll lie about anything.

Posted by: wheatie at January 14, 2014 01:34 PM (9p2Wz)

215 Nice Federal Judge Overturns OK Marriage Law... invokes 14th Amendment.... As bad as 16 & 17 are, more evil has been done in the name of the 14th Amendment than any other.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 01:34 PM (PYAXX)

216
    Nobody cares?

    I CARE.

     Wanna try burning ME down, cocksuckers?

Posted by: irongrampa at January 14, 2014 01:35 PM (SAMxH)

217 I told everybody who would listen in late October and early November of '12 that Benghazi alone should disqualify the jugeared clusterfuck from office. Evidently not I didn't get around to enough people. Or they weren't listening.

Posted by: pendejo grande at January 14, 2014 01:35 PM (OZW5B)

218 Nice Federal Judge Overturns OK Marriage Law...  Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 05:33 PM (TE35l)

If it was the law I am thinking about, it was an amendment to our State's Constitution and it passed with 71% of the vote.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at January 14, 2014 01:35 PM (kXoT0)

219 Free Mumia? Sure. But fuck Nakoula! He's the Real Terrorist. Not like President Teflon Don Lemon.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 14, 2014 01:35 PM (DhGW2)

220 Nood. I think we're talking about Demon Bronies or something...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 01:37 PM (PYAXX)

221 The left cared alright... remember how they tracked down the Door of the obscure video guy?

how he deserved to die?

how they used it to try to tell us free speech wasn't an option ?

then they found out it was hinky and decided they would shut up and say instead,,"Benghazi ,who cares!"

also didn't Reggie say they were playing cards?


Posted by: willow at January 14, 2014 01:37 PM (nqBYe)

222 Night, fellow babies, had all I can take of this badinage for a bit.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at January 14, 2014 01:38 PM (kXoT0)

223 146 130 Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 05:12 PM (RJMhd) I don't kiss Tapper's ass Grenell used his knowledge of State to show that Bermuda has more State dept money for security than Libya had. I explained FEST protocol to Tapper and how the willful decision would have had to have been made not to have mission readiness in Africom for this. We tried.... Tapper and I had it out to the point he almost blocked me, and I wound up nuking my account for 8 months. Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 05:15 PM (TE35l) ********** Okay, okay I said *overly* kiss and I think I said "no need" so--kind of a double compounding which means I don't mean you exactly. The Twitter brigade rushing to defend him as opposed to Luttrell who defended the country in a response to 9/11 for gawd's sakes. The disproportionate nature of that.

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 01:38 PM (RJMhd)

224 Nice Federal Judge Overturns OK Marriage Law...

invokes 14th Amendment....

so we can all smoke pot now right?

LIB

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 05:33 PM (TE35l)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

As a commenter said in the last thread, it's time  for states to start defying the fed court system.  It's nothing but a rigged game now.

Posted by: Soona at January 14, 2014 01:38 PM (QyfjW)

225 no Nood!

Posted by: willow at January 14, 2014 01:38 PM (nqBYe)

226 214 AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 05:34 PM (PYAXX)

Gabe went out of his way to ignore/avoid the implications of the Majestix Imperium Presidency, Fiat Prosecutions and "neutralization" of POT Law by CO...

You can throw this on the fire too...these activists trump state law using the 14th amendment...

why can't I do the same for CO's pot law "but sven there's a law at the federal level"

Sure there is and that is why it is being enforced in CO

Ooops

There is no Federal Gay Marriage law, unless they judicially whipped one up which means we now have the worst acting states making Federal Law unilaterally...

If you can do this with marriage why not pot, why not guns, why not EPA why not SEC?

This is bad joss for the rule of law.

Congrats Libertines

Your prize is a lawless shithole.


Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:39 PM (TE35l)

227 And my guess is only FoxNews will find this blockbuster revelation newsworthy.  I mean what is this compared to a few days bad traffic?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at January 14, 2014 01:39 PM (+9xNn)

228 212 I'm still at a loss as to why there was (is) any question that it was a preplanned terrorist attack. Shit. All I had to do was look at a calendar. Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at January 14, 2014 05:34 PM (zxrQh) ******** ^ Ya--that. The obvious. Somehow the Smartest Man in the World as President and His Crew missed that.

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 14, 2014 01:40 PM (RJMhd)

229 Hillary can't be held responsible, wingnuts, because she allegedly fell down drunk, bumped her fucking melon, and forgot everything she ever knew about Libya.

True story.

Posted by: Fritz at January 14, 2014 01:40 PM (UzPAd)

230 223 Soona at January 14, 2014 05:38 PM (QyfjW)

Worse than that the politicized DoJ means we have no rule of law we have rule of whim.

Holder gives CO a pass on pot thus far, BUT will he for the whole term or will the next AG?

Can the next AG do so WRT enviro law?

Can a state tell EPA "nah fuck you fella we're keeping the coal plant..."?

If not why not?

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:41 PM (TE35l)

231 come back!

Posted by: willow at January 14, 2014 01:42 PM (nqBYe)

232 217 Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at January 14, 2014 05:35 PM (kXoT0)

Yup but evidently CA's Xth amendment rights trump OK's using the uh 14th?

Interesting precedents we're setting here...

I think the Glee Mafia may have just blown up the Constitution

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:43 PM (TE35l)

233 nood

Posted by: LIV and lovin it at January 14, 2014 01:45 PM (W6iIX)

234 Romney should have asked SCOAMF or even ask Candy to ask him 'What exactly did you do that night?' Did you go watch TV and pack for your Vegas trip.?' The media has never even asked what the fuck he did. Its like a 9 hour gap in an important point of history. An ambassador was fucking killed.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 14, 2014 01:51 PM (9Bdcz)

235 Only slightly off thread, but how does valJets illegal USSS protection detail fit in to this?

Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2014 01:51 PM (4JkHl)

236 234 Jean at January 14, 2014 05:51 PM (4JkHl)

a nice escalade that takes her to Wendy's to get Frostys

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:52 PM (TE35l)

237 Her lifetime of failures? From a phony law career to an aborted Healthcare shitstain to accidentally bonking her head and being unable to testify to Congress? She's a rancid freakshow of failure. To her credit. she did have that awesome air to air combat experience over Bosnia.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker, Waitress, Model, Actress, Wears Prada at January 14, 2014 01:57 PM (GeVLX)

238 236 The Hobo Hooker, Waitress, Model, Actress, Wears Prada at January 14, 2014 05:57 PM (GeVLX)

some people just step up when it's go time...

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 14, 2014 01:59 PM (TE35l)

239 It's one time to spout a line of bullshit in the media a few hours afterwards, but back up that bullshit with the federal detention of a guy, to allow the media to throw an election, and worst of all lie right into the grieving faces of their families over their caskets when you could have said nothing, that where I start to snap.

Posted by: Jean at January 14, 2014 02:00 PM (4JkHl)

240 Tell me again why these people aren't in jail?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 14, 2014 02:11 PM (QBm1P)

241 239-GOP!

Posted by: nip at January 14, 2014 02:19 PM (jI23+)

242 He is a fucking traitor- should be arrested, tried, convicted, and hanged. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 14, 2014 04:52 PM (PYAXX) On Hotair with the Megyn Kelly / McConnell interview where she asks point blank about impeachment, Allahpundit pooh poohs the idea saying Obama will always be given the benefit of the doubt because he means well and we'll never get the 67 votes in the Senate and look what happened with Clinton. I say that's bullshit. Republicans will lose the Senate just as quickly -- if they get it -- unless they go for the jugular. Look to the Dems and Christie for how you do it. There is no cooperation. Only war. In 2016, Republicans will be defending seats in liberal districts. So, start going after Obama with everything you've got while he's a lame duck, because you won't get the chance to inflict real pain on the Democrats and repeal Obamacare again. Obama can be brought up on charges that make Nixon look like a schoolboy, and his heart was most certainly never in any place decent or good. Nixon never got anyone killed. Obama is a SCOAMF and a traitor.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 14, 2014 02:22 PM (Y92Nd)

243

(obligatory dead thread comment)

 

So Saturday night I'm at dinner with a guy I've known since childhood - good guy, funny, not dumb at all, but utterly in the thrall of his environment and the marinade that has ruined America (NPR, Hollywood, the NYT as a source for "smart" citizens) and under the influence of his very nice but passionately clueless (watches The View) wife. Kid of hers and their friends also there, great dinner, very nice setting. 

 

As always I would stick a fork in my own eye before mentioning anything to do with anything remotely connected to "politics" around such people.  So my friend, appropos of very little other than a jocular reference to Benghazi he made while joking (as always) about my secret missions and exotic unknown work background, turns slightly more serious and says "I read the NYT investigation and they said AQ was not involved". 

 

For the millionth time in the last 20 years, I smile and try to change the subject, but can't resist joking (clearly in a jocular tone) " yeah, I always bring mortars to spontaneous demonstrations" (which ignored the pathetically weak NYT article and the bizarre false-focus of whether AQ was involved).  No real response, but the rest of the table then (in a joking, not harsh, manner) then segues off with nonsense about "well if you believe Fox News and not the NYT .... blah blah blah (laughter)".  I laugh along and quickly somebody starts asking about one of the sushi items in front of us, so that's it.

 

There is no hope.  People who even TRY to get a bit smarter and more informed about serious topics rarely get past the brain-dead, utterly corrupted and vile brick wall of NYT/AP/NPR/SNL/pop culture.  They simply don't have the background (this has always been a problem, and a huge annoyance for me to deal with, but it heretofore did not actually result in national degradation and decline). 

 

As sort of hinted at above by others, I am completely alienated from what was the US.  Half or more of the residents, and most of the institutions, can no longer be taken seriously, and in fact demand contempt and resistance.  From enthusiastic volunteer in a war zone to being ready, at a moment's notice, to take off and have no contact with this place or its "citizens" again, in a few short years. 

Posted by: non-purist at January 14, 2014 02:34 PM (afQnV)

244 Well, the bitter confirmation to the bitter truth comes out. Obummer did know, he was told, and he brushed it off for a political junket. Spurred on by his example, none of the other "leaders" of the Cabinet did anything. (I don't consider Shrillary's token objection made for the sake of future campaigning a positive action.) And unless the 2014 election cycle gives the republicans the House & Senate, nothing will happen for now. Alas! Alas that Romney did not win in 2012, so justice could be done. All that is left is the judgement of history, which will damn Obummer to Hell, then turn around and excoriate us for letting Obummer into office in the first place.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 14, 2014 02:36 PM (lJaja)

245 "All that is left is the judgement of history, which will damn Obummer to Hell, then turn around and excoriate us for letting Obummer into office in the first place." History is written by the winners. We are not the winners.

Posted by: whoever at January 14, 2014 02:47 PM (zu9Ee)

246 We really desperately need that FTL transport system, because I feel like I'm living in enemy territory more with each passing day. The founders of this nation had a pair of oceans to separate them from the mentality that controlled Europe and were able to create something great for a time. But where can anyone go today, stuck on this one planet where all of places worth having are claimed?

Posted by: Epobirs at January 14, 2014 02:49 PM (bPxS6)

247 "Within Minutes of Benghazi Attack, Barack Obama Was Informed By Top Military Men It Was a "Terrorist Attack" " He has a comprehension problem.

Posted by: socalcon at January 14, 2014 03:08 PM (vHlQ5)

248 To be consistent, I am still pissed at Reagan for withdrawing from Lebannon without blowing a portion of Lebannon or Iran to smithereens...Posted by: polynikes I always felt that withdrawal was a big failure on Reagan's part. However somewhere recently I read that we did shell the hills where the terrorists were lodged. No idea of the truth of that or not. I'll look further when I have time.

Posted by: The Farmer at January 14, 2014 03:16 PM (eBupg)

249 Look, the left won the Benghazi thing. Okay? When Mitt timidly tried to make it an issue in one of the debate, Candy Crowley shut him up good. Time to move on.

Posted by: Banjo at January 14, 2014 04:03 PM (lMtGt)

250 Top. Men.

Posted by: A Conservative Teacher at January 15, 2014 12:40 PM (idosS)

251 Time to create some "mischief" at the State Department?

Posted by: burt at January 16, 2014 08:58 AM (1+kJ5)

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