April 01, 2014

Deep Dive: AOSHQDD First Look at #WIGov 2014
— CAC

(with a few potshots to take at Team Romney along the way, because why not?)

When we last really focused on Wisconsin, Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney halved President Obama's 2008 landslide win, leaving Republicans who had just witnessed Governor Walker's wallop of Barrett during the recall apoplectic and questioning everything they could. How could this have happened? Was Gov. Walker just lucky with the recall? Is there a way for any Republican to win statewide in a Presidential year? How can we possibly beat the turnout in Milwaukee? Most important, is Walker favored to win re-election? First, we'll examine the November 2012 failure, and let's look at the most obvious parts of the state many (wrongly) assumed delivered President Obama a win where it failed to “come through” for candidate Tom Barrett: Milwaukee City and Dane County.

Milwaukee City, located within the limits of Milwaukee County, cast roughly 227,800 ballots for President Obama, and 56,700 for Romney, giving the President a sizable 171,000 vote edge. While this sounds formidable, Milwaukee City only accounted for 9% of the statewide vote in 2012- the exact same share it had in the recall five months earlier (see regional chart below). Considering Tom Barrett's 121,000 vote edge in the recall here, this Democrat-favoring margin jumped only by 50,000- hardly enough to unseat Walker if, say, Barrett had managed to score the President's totals out of the city.

Dane County, home of the City of Madison, cast roughly 83,600 votes for Romney, and 216,000 votes for President Obama, giving the President a 132,400 vote cushion. While sizable, consider that Tom Barrett scored a 98,800 vote edge in the recall, so this was just an improvement of about 34,600 votes.

Using the 2012 recall as a baseline, and giving Tom Barrett ALL of Obama's margins in the City of Milwaukee and Dane County, he would have still fallen tens of thousands of votes short of knocking Walker off. The Democrats had very impressive turnout for a non-Presidential race, but all of the votes they could find in their two largest pockets wasn't enough to unseat the Governor, and wouldn't have been even given Presidential-level turnout there. If the only improvement for President Obama over candidate Tom Barrett had been in these two often-cited areas, he would have lost to Mitt Romney.

Why Walker ultimately won and Mitt Romney lost boils down to two far less mentioned and far more important regions in the state: the Green Bay/ Appleton media market of NE Wisconsin, and even more crucial, the mish-mash of “other” markets (Duluth, Twin Cities, Wausau, and Eau Claire/La Crosse) that make up the northwest portion of the state. The former region went to Walker by a massive margin, nearly as large as his win in the blood red Milwaukee suburbs: 62%-38%. The latter region went to the Governor by a respectable 56% to 44%, and has been far less favorable to Republican Presidential candidates.

WalkerBarrettMarginRegional2012Recall.png

Map generated using election data from GAB

In the Presidential race, Romney lost this large “other” region of the state, and enjoyed but a fraction of the margin Governor Walker had in the Green Bay area (just 4% compared to Walker's 24%). The notion that Democratic turnout operations in Dane and Milwaukee actually block Republican victories is false: as I have shown above, if the only change had been in these two mega-Democratic regions, and you gave Tom Barrett ALL of President Obama's margins there, he would have come up short; instead, Republican Presidential candidates have a problem with winning the state because of failures in the oft-ignored regions. Team Romney repeated Team Barrett's mistake and emphasized their turnout and media efforts in the wrong places.

The Milwaukee 'burbs have been blood red for some time now, while the city of Milwaukee and the Madison area deep blue for an equally long time, so ad spending and GOTV efforts in these places reach saturation rather rapidly. Team Romney and various Republican groups spent almost $12 million of the $27 million dumped into the state in the Madison and Milwaukee media markets- the two markets least likely to see any shift substantial enough to change the race. The northern areas of the state require you to actively criss-cross and campaign if you want their vote, and this simply wasn't done. Team Romney (barely) got involved in Green Bay, and the campaign utterly dropped the ball in the northwest. The stark contrast in results is damning, particularly when you look at the county-by-county changes:

WalkerBarrettCountyMarginsFIVEpointsupdown.png

ObamaRomney2012WisconsinOverUnder5points.png

But enough about beating up on our failure in late 2012. What are Governor Walker's chances this go-around? Is Mary Burke really a more formidable candidate than Mayor Barrett? What does the polling say?

WalkerBurkePollingAverage.bmp

Despite fund-raising emails hyping Burke as an intimidating challenger (by both sides!), there is no evidence so far in the polling that the Governor faces a bigger fight than in 2010 or 2012. In fact, her share of the vote is marginally worse than Barrett's at roughly the same point in 2010 and 2012. But don't take my word for it: look at the data.

Consider the three polls released in March 2010: WPRI found Walker with a 4% lead, Rasmussen 6%, and PPP just 3% over Barrett. Also consider the polling released between October 2011 and February 2012: Walker led Barrett by 2% per PPP in October, trailed him by 3% in February, and held a somewhat more comfortable 6% edge per Marquette in January. Now consider Burke's current performance: a 45% tie per Rasmussen (her best), trailing Walker 41% to 48% per Marquette (her worst), and trailing him 44%-49% per Gravis. While very old, Public Policy Polling's latest release of this current race gives Walker a 6% edge- a greater margin than anything they found for him during the entirety of his recall battle.

BurkeVersusBarrettAgainstWalkerMuLawPolls.png

Her approval rating is up in the air: most residents of the state are still unfamiliar with her (and the Governor, war chest at the ready, will be more than happy to inform Wisconsinites who she “really” is), and she's looking at around 84% of Democrats per the latest Marquette Law Poll. Considering Barrett polled in the mid-40s and won between 46% and 47% in both of his battles with the Governor, and Burke has been at 41%, 45%, and 44% in the latest samplings (MuLaw, Rasmussen and Gravis Marketing), there is no evidence in the data we have to suggest she's stronger than Tom Barrett. As for that approval rating, being "undefined" has the potential upside of growing your numbers as the public notices you, but that is not what we have seen so far:

CandidateTomBarrettApprovalDisapproval.png

CandidateMaryBurkeApprovalDisapproval.png

Contrast her performance with the Governor, who presides over a bitterly divided state, yet who maintains a consistent approval rating in the high forties (and occasionally over 50%):

GovernorScottWalkerApprovalDisapprovalMarch2012March2014Marquette.png

Yes, his approval number has down-ticked a bit over two years, but his disapproval rating has dropped by roughly the same. There has, is, and always will be a hardened core of Wisconsin residents who hate the Governor, and there has, is, and always will be a hardened core of residents who love him. The simple truth is that the core who adore the guy is bigger, and these blocs frame the election to give the Governor a low ceiling (the mid-50s at best) and a very high floor (around 47-48%). Walker is NO Jim Doyle, who polled anywhere from -2 to -29 in his approval ratings during the final year of his last term.

One of the central issues for Wisconsin since before Walker was even elected was the economy, and the perception of its recent performance has changed in the Governor's favor since the heat of the recall:

WisconsiniteViewOfEconomyPastYear.png

While "jobs" will be touted by Burke as a big issue, Wisconsin voters' perception of the economic conditions in Wisconsin won't give her much of a cudgel, barring another downturn. It also doesn't help that two of her biggest claims in ads about wages and the unemployment rate have been duds, per Politifact's analysis. Perhaps the most obvious item on the "jobs" cry though is that the Democrats have been shouting it since 2011, and already tried to use it to rev up support for Barrett in the recall- and yet the Governor's lead hasn't budged.

Democrats nationally have been talking up the need to increase turnout, targeting the Presidential-year-only voters, in particular minority and youth votes to avoid losing control of the Senate and to make a few gains here and their in what otherwise looks like a Republican year; but when it comes to Wisconsin, we have already seen what top-notch turnout efforts look like in a non-Presidential election. It delivers the Democratic candidate a combined 205,000 vote margin out of Dane and Milwaukee Counties, which would be extremely impressive if the much smaller but much more Republican WOW (Waukesha Ozaukee & Washington) hadn't delivered a >150,000 vote rebuttal. With the recall as their high-water mark, and no sign yet that this fight will see turnout even approaching that, we are really, really giving Burke the benefit of the doubt in expecting roughly identical margins in the bluest areas.

The Marquette Law Poll won my respect in 2012 with it's excellent final result, nailing not only the topline number, but coming very close to Walker and Barrett's shares in the major regions of the state. Their final polls for the Presidential and Senate races were also only 2 points off. Their prolific polling and consistent methodology gives us an excellent source of data to draw long-term conclusions on the attitude of the state.

Looking at their latest release, we fail to find any good news for candidate Burke- she wins Milwaukee City by 66%-21% (Democrat Barrett won it 77-23 in 2012), the Madison media market by a substantial 53%-33% (Barrett win this by 61-39), and loses everywhere else: 38%-55% in the Milwaukee media market (Walker won it 63-37), 34%-56% in the Green Bay area (Walker won this 62-38 ), and in the usually more fickle “other”, is getting absolutely destroyed 31%-54% (Walker beat Barrett in the swingiest region by 54%-46%). Even averaging this and the last MuLaw cross-tabs, Walker is enjoying double-digit advantages over Burke in Green Bay and the northwest, crushing her (as expected) in the Milwaukee burbs, and trailing her only in Milwaukee-proper and the Madison area. When you look at how much of the statewide vote each of these regions made up during the recall (and, in nearly identical percentages, the Presidential race five months later), Walker's regional strengths can't be ignored. He's running nearly identical margins to his performance in 2012, which broke down as such:

WalkerBarrettMarginRegional2012Recall.png

Since the recall, little has really changed for Governor Walker in terms of his approval rating- he has seemed to bounce around a few points shy of or over fifty percent, with his disapproval rating ranging from the mid to high forties. Little has changed too in his regional performance since the recall, as the Marquette Law Polls have shown. Dave Weigel's report from Wisconsin during the height of the recall contest, Welcome to Walkerland, highlighted a campaign that utilized data and volunteers to a degree unmatched by any Democrat in the state save for the President. His team plans to build off of that GOTV that successfully gave him a larger majority in the recall than his initial gubernatorial election, so “catching his ground game off guard” is off the table for Burke and Wisconsin Democrats.

The loyalty of the Walker base is not to be underestimated. During the recall, a primary was held, mainly for the Democrats to decide who they would pick to rid themselves of the Great Conservative Menace. Beyond just showing their support, there was really no reason for Republicans to turn out in the token Republican primary. Considering Kathleen Falk was thought to be the weaker candidate at the time, many conservatives considered playing around in the Democratic primary, which would have augmented what was already expected to be very high turnout (over 900,000 people signed a recall, so it was implied in the days leading up to May 8th that a sizable Democratic showing would materialize). On May 8th, over 670,000 ballots were cast in the Democratic primary....and over 625,000 were cast for Scott Walker in his virtually uncontested one. A map comparing counties where Walker received more votes (again, this was merely a show of support from Republicans, because there was no contest on the Republican side) than all of the Democrats combined went viral, and indicated just how wide a swath of territory “Walkerland” had extended:

Blue WisconsinPurple WisconsinAnd Walkerland.png

Conservatives, establishment Republicans and libertarians got on a rare unity kick and put everything they hand into “saving” Walker on June 5th , 2012, and their success looks even grander when you consider the size of the Governor's wins in his biggest counties versus what the Democrats backing Barrett achieved:

WalkerBarrettBiggestMarginRawVoteCounties.png

2012RecallLargestMarginsWalkerBarrett.png

The ten largest counties breaking for Scott Walker bested those backing Tom Barrett: Waukesha came around 3000 votes shy of matching nearby Dane's, despite having 108,000 fewer residents. Critical, indeed. No less impressive, Ozaukee, Washington, Dodge, Walworth and Sheboygan came within 14,000 votes of matching the Democratic margin out of Milwaukee, despite having a combined population just over half the size. While Barrett's % margins were enormous out of the Duluth-area counties, none approached the raw votes of the red Milwaukee suburbs. (All county level data is pulled from gab.wi.gov)

With few exceptions (Kenosha, La Crosse, and possibly Columbia), all of these will almost certainly side with the same party this time around, which just further adds to Burke's problem: how does she top the blood-red Milwaukee suburbs? If Green Bay and counties in, say, the Twin Cities and Eau Claire media markets were a coin-toss, or at least had substantial undecideds, she would have an “in”, but that hasn't materialized. Burke's easiest path is to force Walker to a draw in the NW to even have a chance. Pumping out votes in the Madison area and the city of Milwaukee is important- that's her base. But to actually win, she needs these “other” votes, as can be illustrated in the chart below, which compares the results of every major statewide race decided by less than eight points from 2006 through today:

06and10and12primaryAND12results.bmp

Ultimately, nothing has substantially changed in the nearly two-year interval since the recall in the Wisconsin Democrats' favor, and there's scant chance it will in the next seven months: unemployment is down (though it looks like Walker's quarter-million jobs pledge won't come to fruition by November, so expect most of Burke's focus on it), taxes are being cut, the budget is perceived as far more balanced by voters than it was in 2010, the initial John Doe investigation failed to lead to the Walker indictment predicated by MSNBC sage Ed Schultz, candidate Burke has candidly admitted she won't be the self-funding juggernaut many Democrats hoped she would be, the unions are a shell of their former selves, the Governor's initial election polling is better than it was in 2010 or 2012, Burke hasn't materialized as an improvement over twice-loser Barrett, and looking at perhaps the most important metric for a midterm race, base support, the Governor's approval among members of his own party has been in the low to mid 90s for two years running.

Can things change for the Wisconsin Democrats trying to oust their most loathed foe? Of course. We're talking a race that is seven months out from conclusion.

But they haven't in two years, and nothing we can measure indicates otherwise.

{added by CAC July 24th) For caution, here's the thing I would warn of, and could be happening: an attack on Walker's jobs pledge and the "less wild" option. If Burke can bland her way around and succeed in making Walker look more radical than herself, attack him on jobs, and get her foot in the door in the more contested regions of the state, problems will arise for Governor Walker. He won't see his own numbers shrink, but he'll see Burke's rise, and the state is very, very divided. This may be happening based on the May and now July release by MuLaw. As successful as his team has been in the past, a loss this year would go further than ruin his chances at the Presidency- it would mean Republicans are doomed in the Upper Midwest, a region they need to improve in for any shot at the White House.

AOSHQDD Initial Forecast:

AOSHQDDWIGOV2014INITIALFORECAST.png

Governor Scott Walker holds a six-point edge over Democrat Mary Burke, 52% to 46%, with 2% scattered and undecided. Considering his potential Presidential aspirations, while I consider this race moderately Republican, it will be at the back of my mind and will make a few appearances here on the HQ throughout the campaign.

All of the data for all of the Marquette Law Poll releases can be found here
All charts created by @conartcritic

The Ace of Spades HQ Decision Desk is now on twitter @AOSHQDD If you have a race of interest you'd like to see analyzed, shoot me a tweet @ConArtCritic

Posted by: CAC at 02:56 PM | Comments (174)
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1 WTF?

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 01, 2014 02:58 PM (5UteM)

2 OK, now I commented.
Time to go back and read all this stuff .

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 01, 2014 02:59 PM (si68n)

3

Screw SMOD. Our salvation is neigh........

http://tinyurl.com/ne67bxv

Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2014 03:00 PM (xWW96)

4 Holy crap. Ebola is taking over the entire island.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 01, 2014 03:02 PM (8ZskC)

5

So...Walker is going to win this year?

 

As long as he doesn't get Romney to campaign for him?

Posted by: wheatie at April 01, 2014 03:03 PM (8nUCr)

6 God does Wisconsin suck!!!

Posted by: prescient11 at April 01, 2014 03:03 PM (tVTLU)

7 I can see North Dakota from my house.

Posted by: Wisconsin at April 01, 2014 03:04 PM (8ZskC)

8 *legs shaking, sits down unsteadily*

so many charts

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 03:05 PM (2hTlI)

9 It's the Italicans. RUN!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 01, 2014 03:06 PM (8ZskC)

10 I blame the italicians.

Posted by: johnd01 at April 01, 2014 03:06 PM (r0+v0)

11 I thought this was a moron site. My brain hurts now.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at April 01, 2014 03:06 PM (g0H8G)

12
Obviously a huge amount of work here.......and the Horde reaction is gonna be "I was promised plaid maps, you hoser".

You know, I'm almost feeling sorry for CAC. Almost.



Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 01, 2014 03:07 PM (TIIx5)

13 *breaks scrolling wheel on mouse* CAAAACCCCCC!!! Oh and when did Wisconsin split up into five lump states?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 01, 2014 03:07 PM (oFCZn)

14 So did you like the movie or not?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2014 03:07 PM (mx5oN)

15 Wow what a post. My governor rocks! Unlike that fat fuck from NJ

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:08 PM (HVff2)

16
Apparently the WI Republicans clevered up a tad and tightened the state's availability of early voting for this election.

Can't hurt.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 03:08 PM (kdS6q)

17 I could drive across Wisconsin faster than it will take me to read this post. Ok, I AM going to read the post. Just had to get the snark out of the way.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 01, 2014 03:09 PM (oFCZn)

18 Peruvia appears to be massing troops along the border.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 01, 2014 03:09 PM (8ZskC)

19 Read down to the first confusing graffic and gave up in boredom. This looks like the first draft of the Unibomber's manifesto.

Posted by: Dogbert at April 01, 2014 03:10 PM (oKVs5)

20 Just finished the last season Episode of the Walking Dead. All those posters who left little tid-bids of "misinformation" -- I hate you. They were all captured by hipster cannibals. Fabulous. That show jumped a dead shark for me.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 01, 2014 03:10 PM (96WPx)

21 Good lord! I've been through shorter, simpler chapters in Enzymology and Thermodynamics.

You know if a butterfly flaps its wings, Scott Walker could win reelection even without the aid of plaid maps?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 01, 2014 03:10 PM (1CroS)

22 #PAGov doesn't look pretty, just a warning.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 03:10 PM (pQkGj)

23 I'm offended at the rank exploitation of charts and graphs taking place here!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2014 03:10 PM (mx5oN)

24 The undecideds could go either way.

Posted by: George H.W. Bush at April 01, 2014 03:10 PM (8ZskC)

25 Best April Fool's Day post yet.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 01, 2014 03:11 PM (ZshNr)

26 What's up with that northern blue part, what's their deal?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2014 03:11 PM (WdbF7)

27 What's up with that northern blue part, what's their deal? Lutefisk-eating Scandis.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 01, 2014 03:13 PM (8ZskC)

28 #26 Those are union-heavy mining communities, part of the Duluth-Superior area.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 03:13 PM (pQkGj)

29

At least there are no spoilers in this movie review. 

Posted by: rd at April 01, 2014 03:13 PM (D+lxs)

30 26 What's up with that northern blue part, what's their deal? Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2014 07:11 PM (WdbF7) Welfare recipients, hippies & gubmint workers. Low populations. UW Superior, Northland College in neighboring county and a couple of Indian bands/reservations

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:14 PM (HVff2)

31 Good Lord there are a lot of words and charts in this post... I had to put my glasses on. Be back in an hour after I read it all.

Posted by: spypeach at April 01, 2014 03:14 PM (10H0T)

32 I so wanted blown-out margins. :-(

Posted by: madamex at April 01, 2014 03:15 PM (1zsKV)

33 I was having a fine erection until I discovered that a Right-of-Center Republican might win again in WI. Thanks for nothing, CAC.

Posted by: Karl Rove, Super Genius at April 01, 2014 03:15 PM (1CroS)

34 28 #26 Those are union-heavy mining communities, part of the Duluth-Superior area. Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 07:13 PM (pQkGj) Not to correct the cob, but union miners favor Walker. It's seiu & nea unions

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:16 PM (HVff2)

35 So approximately equal percentages of people think the economy is getting better and worse.  Interesting. 

I wonder if this is because of clusters of people who do similar types of work.  Some fields are doing better, some worse.  People look around at their neighbors and see people in similar sectors and have their personal experiences reinforced.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 03:16 PM (2hTlI)

36 Needed elbows and grilled cheese sandwiches to bring the whole enterprise together. Summation: Walker didn't suck.

Posted by: eman at April 01, 2014 03:16 PM (AO9UG)

37 21 Good lord! I've been through shorter, simpler chapters in Enzymology and Thermodynamics. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 01, 2014 07:10 PM (1CroS) Somebody needs some Voxxxxxxxxx.

Posted by: Ezzie Klein at April 01, 2014 03:17 PM (QeH9j)

38 The people od Wisconsin are smart for voting for President Obama and not that religious nut Romney. Anybody that voted for Romney is stooped deserves what they got. If they lost their job that is too bad............

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at April 01, 2014 03:18 PM (iB0Q2)

39
The NYT had a hit piece on Walker over some mine. Apparently Dem strategy includes trying to to peal off some of the rural gun and tackle set with eco scaremongering:

http://tinyurl.com/qbdlzob

Executive Summary

Scott Walker makes Indians cry.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 03:19 PM (kdS6q)

40 Walker fixed their state for crying out loud.  If he isn't reelected, Michiganders should be shunned...

and forced to wear stupid signs...

and then shunned.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 01, 2014 03:19 PM (BZAd3)

41 Jesus,I am too sober to be able to navigate all those mappies and colories...

Someone explain the take home.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 01, 2014 03:19 PM (vHRtU)

42 Walkers opponent was hand picked cuz she has money. (Trek bicycles) There will be no primary. She is very vague on her platform & lies, typical libtard.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:20 PM (HVff2)

43 And Wisconsiners too!

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 01, 2014 03:20 PM (BZAd3)

44 Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 01, 2014 07:19 PM (BZAd3) We are Wisconites

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:20 PM (HVff2)

45 While I never have anything to actually *add* to these for various reasons, I did want to point out that I'm impressed with the amount of work CAC puts into these and I hope he's either being paid by the GOPe / corrupt pollsters or at least is burnishing his resume. I know people do complicated things as a hobby, but dayam.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 01, 2014 03:20 PM (qyfb5)

46 Madison should be nuked from orbit.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 01, 2014 03:21 PM (vHRtU)

47 Walker fixed their state for crying out loud. If he isn't reelected, Michiganders should be shunned...

Reagan's economy took off like a rocket.  How do the leftists interpret that?
It was the Decade of Greed.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 03:21 PM (2hTlI)

48 Walkers opponent was hand picked cuz she has money. (Trek bicycles) There will be no primary. She is very vague on her platform & lies, typical libtard. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 07:20 PM (HVff2) Money she has admitted she won't be pouring into the race. She'll do some self-funding, but she's already stated it won't be anything like Kohl or Johnson.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 03:21 PM (pQkGj)

49 I was just on a post about the girl scouts, where did it go?

Posted by: oc joe at April 01, 2014 03:21 PM (hqVUe)

50 Good post, CAC.  Lots of colors.  I like colors.  Colors make me happy.

Posted by: Soona at April 01, 2014 03:21 PM (MzhHs)

51 46 Madison should be nuked from orbit. Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 01, 2014 07:21 PM (vHRtU) Word.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 01, 2014 03:22 PM (mx5oN)

52 Wisconites

WIS-cun-ites?

I've always heard:
1.  Wisconsinite
2.  Cheesehead
3.  Wisconsinian

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 03:23 PM (2hTlI)

53 Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 07:21 PM (pQkGj) You are right CAC. What's funny is that admission came out after the back room deal was done. I'm surprised feingold didn't get in

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:23 PM (HVff2)

54 I actually hate Madison far more than Detroit.

Madison knows better...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 01, 2014 03:23 PM (vHRtU)

55 Where's the part about the volcano? I couldn't find it using ctrl+F.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 01, 2014 03:23 PM (hn5v5)

56 Posted by: bonhomme at April 01, 2014 07:23 PM (2hTlI Darn iPad spellcheck.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:24 PM (HVff2)

57 I hope he's ready to start campaigning again right after the next win. The rest of the country needs him too.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 01, 2014 03:24 PM (3a584)

58 I once got my ass kicked in Wisconsin

Posted by: Russell Ziskey at April 01, 2014 03:25 PM (kFxpe)

59 Darn iPad spellcheck.

Autocorrect makes fools of us all.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 03:26 PM (2hTlI)

60 So I'm guessing Madison is filled with hippies? Weird I didn't think they could survive the cold.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at April 01, 2014 03:26 PM (WdbF7)

61 Not to correct the cob, but union miners favor Walker. It's seiu & nea unions

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 07:16 PM (HVff2)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

 

It's always the SEIU and NEA.  Any union  making  trouble for anyone usually involve these POSs. 

Posted by: Soona at April 01, 2014 03:27 PM (MzhHs)

62 I like Trek bikes too. Especially sniffing Yeoman Rand's seat.

Posted by: captain kirk at April 01, 2014 03:27 PM (hn5v5)

63 We are Wisconites

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 07:20 PM (HVff2)


Of course you are. 

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 01, 2014 03:27 PM (BZAd3)

64 I once got my ass kicked in Wisconsin


You don't know me.  The line is "Well, I got the shit kicked out of me in Wisconsin once. Forget it!"

Posted by: Russell Ziskey[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 03:28 PM (2hTlI)

65 I'm still holding a grudge against Ben for teasing me with the fake Walker running for Pres. headline. I suspected it was a tease before clicking to the youtube but even so.

Posted by: PaleRider, tips back tinfoil hat and rides into sunset. at April 01, 2014 03:29 PM (dUS+X)

66 I think it's obvious, given the colors on the map, that CAC has been coopted by teh ghey lobby.


BURN THE INFIDEL.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 01, 2014 03:29 PM (Gk3SS)

67 I so wanted blown-out margins. :-( I wanted plaid. Is that too much to ask?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 01, 2014 03:29 PM (0HooB)

68 Charts and Graphs, Charts and Graphs, We Got Screwed!

Posted by: Arizona Wildcats at April 01, 2014 03:29 PM (2nTM3)

69 Thanks for the great analysis, CAC. I've always wondered what the hell happened in '12 in Wisconsin given the Walker recall victory. And they called it so friggin' fast!! "And we're predicting Obama wins Wisconsin with 0% reporting..." WHAT????!!!!!!!! (I know that's not exactly how it works but damn they called that shit fast.)

Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at April 01, 2014 03:30 PM (DNpio)

70 The red places are Russian majority, correct?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 01, 2014 03:30 PM (oFCZn)

71 BURN THE INFIDEL.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 01, 2014 07:29 PM (Gk3SS)


We were supposed to act like we hadn't noticed!

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 01, 2014 03:30 PM (BZAd3)

72 70 The red places are Russian majority, correct? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 01, 2014 07:30 PM (oFCZn) Shhhhh. Don't let Vlad hear that!

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2014 03:31 PM (QeH9j)

73 Of course you are.

Make him prove it. 

How do you pronounce Chequamegon?

Posted by: Russell Ziskey[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 03:31 PM (44jNh)

74 Off stripey sock.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 03:32 PM (44jNh)

75 Too. Many. Charts. Need. Word. Wall.

Posted by: votermom at April 01, 2014 03:33 PM (GSIDW)

76
I wanted plaid.

Is that too much to ask?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 01, 2014 07:29 PM (0HooB)



Trust me, you don't want to go to plaid.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at April 01, 2014 03:33 PM (lr3d7)

77 I apologize for the lack of additional charts, by the way. The next analysis for a race will be twice as long, I promise.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 03:34 PM (pQkGj)

78 Can we nuke WI now please. Helluva lot of good targets at the White Priveledge Conferebce. “Being a white person who does anti-racist work is like being an alcoholic. I will never be recovered by my alcoholism, to use the metaphor,” Radersma said. “I have to everyday wake up and acknowledge that I am so deeply imbedded with racist thoughts and notions and actions in my body that I have to choose everyday to do anti-racist work and think in an anti-racist way.”

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2014 03:34 PM (QeH9j)

79 I like Walker and from what I have read about him he is a pragmatist with some skill in cutting thru the BS and saving taxpayers some dough. Says a lot when he convinced those douchebags in Wisconsin to vote for him twice with the recall so that's a plus. On the downside he is from Wisconsin which for all intents and purposes is like being from Bumfuck, Egypt.

Posted by: irishEd at April 01, 2014 03:35 PM (bfm04)

80 Wow, that's a lot of maps and stuff.  I need a drink to get through it all.

Posted by: DangerGirl at April 01, 2014 03:35 PM (GrtrJ)

81 73 Of course you are. Make him prove it. How do you pronounce Chequamegon? Posted by: Russell Ziskey at April 01, 2014 07:31 PM (44jNh) 'Chequamegon Lives!' is on SyFy this Saturday.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2014 03:36 PM (QeH9j)

82 Can we nuke WI now please. Helluva lot of good targets at the White Priveledge Conference.

Don't you dare!

Posted by: Phil Kessel[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 03:36 PM (44jNh)

83 Didn't Pajama Boy go to Madison? He wore plaid.

Posted by: johnd01 at April 01, 2014 03:36 PM (r0+v0)

84 You wanted plaid. You would take paisley. You got patchwork.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 01, 2014 03:36 PM (n+8FE)

85 BREAKING AOSHQ NEWS... Cac assigned to the movie review beat...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 01, 2014 03:37 PM (oFCZn)

86 Posted by: irishEd at April 01, 2014 07:35 PM (bfm04) Being a prosperous state with a surplus is a negative for some. How? No freakin' idea.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2014 03:37 PM (QeH9j)

87 “I have to everyday wake up and acknowledge that I am so deeply imbedded with racist thoughts and notions and actions in my body that I have to choose everyday to do anti-racist work and think in an anti-racist way.”

I've gotten SO much black nookie spouting this...

Posted by: Billy Cliton at April 01, 2014 03:38 PM (vHRtU)

88 Dang, living in a neighboring state I feel like I gotta stick up for Wisconsonians, er, Wisconsinites, ... Badgers? ah whatever

Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at April 01, 2014 03:38 PM (DNpio)

89 I spent a week in Wisconsin one day

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at April 01, 2014 03:38 PM (kFxpe)

90 78 Can we nuke WI now please. Helluva lot of good targets at the White Priveledge Conferebce. You sound like my uncle he always wanted nuke silos surrounding Madison

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:39 PM (HVff2)

91 Can we nuke WI now please. Helluva lot of good targets at the White Priveledge Conferebce. I hear so much about this White Privilege and wonder what it means. Much like that mythical "money" thingy I hear about.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 01, 2014 03:39 PM (0HooB)

92 WI down. Fifty-six states to go.

Can't wait for tomorrow's analysis. It'll give me time to add RAM to my motherboard.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 01, 2014 03:40 PM (1CroS)

93 RAM your mother's board? Well, OK.

Posted by: Billy Cliton at April 01, 2014 03:40 PM (vHRtU)

94 89 I spent a week in Wisconsin one day Posted by: Anderson Cooper at April 01, 2014 07:38 PM (kFxpe) Yes, yes you did. It was marvelous.

Posted by: Wisconsin Jones aka bad muthafugga at April 01, 2014 03:41 PM (QeH9j)

95 http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2014/04/White-Privilege-Conf-Teacher Here ya go buddy on white privilege

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:42 PM (HVff2)

96 They're having another election?  I thought democracy died dere in Wisconsin.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6locfXcsQQ8

Posted by: huerfano at April 01, 2014 03:43 PM (bAGA/)

97 >>Madison should be nuked from orbit. Posted by: OG Celtic-American Thing is, we still couldn't sure.

Posted by: Aviator at April 01, 2014 03:43 PM (3rrMW)

98 Being white is like being an alcoholic. You will always be a racist.

Posted by: Some Dumb White Bitch at April 01, 2014 03:44 PM (Aif/5)

99 97 >>Madison should be nuked from orbit. Posted by: OG Celtic-American You would take out Aces bud Althouse

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:45 PM (HVff2)

100 wow....

how totally unexpected.

Mittens lost a state that he had a decent chance of winning.

it's almost as if he and the rest of the RNC RINOs didn't even try....

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 01, 2014 03:45 PM (q+fqH)

101 They were all captured by hipster cannibals. Fabulous. (TWD) jumped a dead shark for me.

You missed it when Rick awoke from his coma in the hospital bed, as it was teetering on the rim of a volcano.

Posted by: Gareth's alter ego, Chris Gaines at April 01, 2014 03:46 PM (wu/TK)

102 http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2014/04/White-Privilege-Conf-Teacher
Here ya go buddy on white privilege
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 07:42 PM (HVff2)



I love that photo. A sea of white losers and one black dude standing on the right whose ass must be sore from all those douchebags begging to kiss it.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 01, 2014 03:46 PM (3a584)

103 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6locfXcsQQ8 Posted by: huerfano at April 01, 2014 07:43 PM (bAGA/) Assuming what video it is. I freakin' love that whiny douch.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2014 03:46 PM (QeH9j)

104

Didn't know The Federalist did movie reviews.

 

That's a lot of math.

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at April 01, 2014 03:47 PM (afQnV)

105 grunt

Posted by: ARNY ZIFFLE at April 01, 2014 03:48 PM (VWXUq)

106 95 http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2014/04/White-Privilege-Conf-Teacher Here ya go buddy on white privilege Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 07:42 PM (HVff2) "Teaching is a political act, and you can't choose to be neutral." Well that's awfully telling. And chilling.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2014 03:49 PM (QeH9j)

107
And I gather from extensive research* that the Lt. Gov levels up if the top office becomes vacant, and the Gov/Lt. Gov run on a joint ticket.

So Walker's covered in 2016 if he runs for President and wins.

*googling


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 03:49 PM (kdS6q)

108 Walker/West 2016. The master of management & the articulate (clean looking) attack dog. Plus all people whose last name begins with a W will swoon.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at April 01, 2014 03:49 PM (hpgw1)

109 Whattttttt? The Ice Cream man is out?!?

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2014 03:49 PM (QeH9j)

110

Sheboygan.

 

Ouzakee.

 

Say them out loud.  It's kinda fun.  Sorta like insane northern Caucasus place names, but more pronounceable.

 

Posted by: non-purist at April 01, 2014 03:50 PM (afQnV)

111 Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2014 07:49 PM (QeH9j) The whole thing is revolting. Thought Mao was dead

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:50 PM (HVff2)

112  I apologize for the lack of additional charts, by the way. The next analysis for a race will be twice as long, I promise.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 07:34 PM (pQkGj)

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

Oh, be  still my heart.

Posted by: Soona at April 01, 2014 03:51 PM (MzhHs)

113 The whole thing is revolting. Thought Mao was dead Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 07:50 PM (HVff2) Commemorated on the White House Christmas tree though.

Posted by: RWC at April 01, 2014 03:51 PM (QeH9j)

114 A Bo Ryan endorsement would seal the deal.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 01, 2014 03:51 PM (IV4od)

115 Lt governor is elected separately. Rebecca Kleifisch is lt gov

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:51 PM (HVff2)

116 Well, I hate to say it, but that ass John McCain can still fuck everything up beyond belief.

Posted by: Killerdog at April 01, 2014 03:52 PM (ld2OA)

117 Lotta work CAC. Good job. Lemme sum it up. Barrett wasn't a minority Pure gimmickry. That's all. Look out for Hillary. Or NJ Senator Cory Booker. Must be a lotta guilt amongst cheese heads. I'll tell you who is a dead lock as a Dem. Chris Christie. He transcends.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 01, 2014 03:52 PM (/djtm)

118 114 A Bo Ryan endorsement would seal the deal. Posted by: lowandslow at April 01, 2014 07:51 PM (IV4od) Bo knows basketball. He can turn chicken salad into chicken shit

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 03:53 PM (HVff2)

119 106 95 http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2014/04/White-Privilege-Conf-Teacher Here ya go buddy on white privilege Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 01, 2014 07:42 PM (HVff2) "Teaching is a political act, and you can't choose to be neutral." Well that's awfully telling. And chilling. ------------- Standby.

Posted by: 2000 lbs JDAM at April 01, 2014 03:53 PM (Aif/5)

120 CAC nice work. Who did all the coloring for you? ha ha

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 01, 2014 03:54 PM (0FSuD)

121 As far as Walker goes. Didn't he meet with the Adelson group? Not the way to get my love.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 01, 2014 03:54 PM (/djtm)

122 So I read, tried to read through glazed eyeballs and numbed brain pain, but it looks like noise to me. Static, random white noise.

Obama won, Romney lost, Walker won. What I remember of Romney he failed to inspire voters, failed to address issues I wanted addressed in the way I would hope they would be addressed while Walker stood up to the mob.

Isn't that the lesson to be learned here?

Wisconsin has a budget surplus, teachers don't have to join the union. Isn't that a clue?

Posted by: Jushoha Smith at April 01, 2014 03:55 PM (gx25J)

123 I now know more about WI politics than I do for my own state.
 
But I'm still hoping Chris Daniels can kick Thad Cochran's pork barrel ass in the primary.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 01, 2014 03:55 PM (wNF3N)

124 Nobody is talking about the mime vote.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 01, 2014 03:56 PM (/Nxsb)

125
BTW --

Romney spent tons in cash in Wisconsin.

His VP pick was from Wisconsin.

His party chairman good ol Reince "That Man Right Outta My Hair" Priebus  was from Wisconsin.

Romney still lost Wisconsin.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 03:57 PM (kdS6q)

126 I hear so much about this White Privilege and wonder what it means.

Read the wiki on "white privilege" and then do some looking at the source material.  One of the "proofs" that it exists is this: "In a study published in 2003, sociologist Deirdre A. Royster compared black and white males who graduated from the same school with the same skills. In looking at their success with school-work transition and working experiences, she found that white graduates were more often employed in skilled trades, earned more, held higher status positions, received more promotions and experienced shorter periods of unemployment."

Sounds convincing, right?  But her "study", published as "How White Networks Exclude Black Men from Blue-Collar Jobs".  In it you find her sample is horrible.  It's only 38 students from a single trade school in Baltimore.  Only a sociologist in a grievance industry would use that as a proof of anything.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 03:58 PM (o4Xc4)

127
Also, spell check informs me that Wisconsin is spelled with only one "O".

Who knew?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 03:58 PM (kdS6q)

128 "Teaching is a political act, and you can't choose to be neutral." There was so much brainwashed stoopid in that link, I only had to read every other paragraph, and that was still too much. I think I left a couple of brain cells back there. I'm glad I'm old...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 01, 2014 03:58 PM (0HooB)

129 You need inspiration from political candidates? Are you so bereft of an internal life that you cling to the beliefs of whichever shitbag peddler of philosophy flatters you sufficiently? Also, shit cookies.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 01, 2014 03:59 PM (ZshNr)

130

Obama won, Romney lost, Walker won. What I remember of Romney he failed to inspire voters, failed to address issues I wanted addressed in the way I would hope they would be addressed while Walker stood up to the mob.

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

Yup.  Walker stood up and was fearless.  Rombley  folded under pressure during the debates, too afraid to  make a stand  against a known  lier. 

 

Plus, he had no moral standing in denouncing Ocare.  He was Rove's boy.

Posted by: Soona at April 01, 2014 04:00 PM (MzhHs)

131
Lt governor is elected separately.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian



"Under the original terms of the state constitution, the lieutenant governor was elected for a two-year term on a separate ticket from the governor; because of this, the Governor and Lieutenant Governor of Wisconsin have not always been of the same party. After a 1967 amendment, however, the two have been nominated, and voted upon, as a single ticket."



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 04:01 PM (kdS6q)

132 Romney still lost Wisconsin.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 07:57 PM (kdS6q)

 

And Massatwoshits, where he was once gubner. Then again, Al Gore didn't carry his own state of TN neither.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 01, 2014 04:02 PM (wNF3N)

133 YOU! SHALL! NOT! PASS! *thunder-strikes stick into ground*

Posted by: Old Guy in a Tunic at April 01, 2014 04:02 PM (lq3Ak)

134 Don't worry we got this covered....

Walker is TOAST

//Cartoon and Imaginary Friend Locals 957, 732, and 35

Posted by: sven10077 at April 01, 2014 04:03 PM (TE35l)

135 Not to mention she claims that all the students graduated with the "same skills".  Whut?  Most of you morons have undergrad and grad school experience.  Did everyone who graduated with you have the "same skills"?  Nope.  There were stellar students and some who just barely scraped by. 

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at April 01, 2014 04:03 PM (o4Xc4)

136 "I'd hire this accountant, he's obviously ten times better than my current one, but somehow, I just don't feel inspired"...said nobody with a fucking dollar to their name, ever.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 01, 2014 04:03 PM (ZshNr)

137 Thank goodness my little bacon-loving G'D'ette is on her way over. She's playing hooky with me and B'Gal tomorrow. She'll ride in the back of my old beat-up pickup truck. We'll go find a new Frisbee and cook hamburgers on the grill in the back yard of Casa Backwardio. And I can forget all the insanity that masquerades for my country for a little while.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 01, 2014 04:04 PM (0HooB)

138
Note -- in the recall, the Gov and Lt. Gov were separate recalls, and thus separate races.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 04:04 PM (kdS6q)

139 "Note -- in the recall, the Gov and Lt. Gov were separate recalls, and thus separate races." Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 01, 2014 08:04 PM (kdS6q) That's racist.

Posted by: Old Guy in a Tunic at April 01, 2014 04:05 PM (lq3Ak)

140 Walker/West 2016. The master of management & the articulate (clean looking) attack dog. Plus all people whose last name begins with a W will swoon.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at April 01, 2014 07:49 PM (hpgw1)



Unless you're Wil Wheaton, who will wet himself whilst whining about what whorrible whuman beings we want two bwe.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at April 01, 2014 04:07 PM (lr3d7)

141 Too much math. Ouch.

Posted by: GuyfromNH at April 01, 2014 04:10 PM (kbOju)

142 I hear so much about this White Privilege and wonder what it means.
I use my WhiteGuy discount card whenever I go shopping. If I forget the card I can still use the secret handshake in some establishments.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 01, 2014 04:10 PM (/Nxsb)

143 Very good work, CAC. I didn't think of it at the time, but yeah, Romney spent most of his time here in SE Wisconsin, which he visited a bunch of times. Those farmers up north felt neglected.

Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at April 01, 2014 04:13 PM (R3gO3)

144 CAC, you are fucking awesome. But my eyes glazed over early, so I have to take your word for it.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at April 01, 2014 04:13 PM (Nk6GS)

145 I actually read and understood everything. After I shot myself in the head, ...it wasn't that bad.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 01, 2014 04:13 PM (lq3Ak)

146 I hope you wing nuts are happy! CNN just reported an 8.0 off the coast of Chile. You frackers caused this.

Posted by: MOTHER JONES at April 01, 2014 04:17 PM (Aif/5)

147 If you look at the maps upside down and backwards, you can see the Devil's face.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 01, 2014 04:18 PM (ZshNr)

148 BTW- Futura font is the best ever.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 04:21 PM (pQkGj)

149 If one does not give a shit anymore - could care the fuck less how or why metropolitan residents vote - and kind of likes the idea of massive social meltdown ... ... should such person care much about those graphs ? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 01, 2014 04:22 PM (VdBU2)

150 CAC, this is great, but pretty complicated. Maybe you should do something simpler, like Astronomy.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at April 01, 2014 04:22 PM (+1T7c)

151 Better than anything else I've read on the subject. Kudos, CAC.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at April 01, 2014 04:23 PM (KZi9D)

152 "INDOCTRINATION is a political act, and you can't choose to be neutral." FIFY...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 01, 2014 04:23 PM (60Vyp)

153 149 ScoggDog at April 01, 2014 08:22 PM (VdBU2)

If nothing else I appreciate the effort.

CAC is sorta like a slightly less cute Oracle at Delphi from 300...

http://youtu.be/CfGIeNALguE

Oracle 300- Sorta SFW maybe


Posted by: sven10077 at April 01, 2014 04:25 PM (TE35l)

154 Badgers? Badgers? We don't need no steenkin' badgers!

Posted by: Treasure of the Mesabi Range at April 01, 2014 04:25 PM (+1T7c)

155 152 CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 01, 2014 08:23 PM (60Vyp)

You may want to go to the University of "leave me the fuck alone" but they won't admit you.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 01, 2014 04:26 PM (TE35l)

156 What about Snyder in michigan. His victory should be bigger then Wakers. Why wouldn't he get any talk?

Posted by: Danny at April 01, 2014 04:35 PM (27lss)

157

Seems like Burke's approval/disapproval is going in the same direction.  So the more they find out about her they love her/hate her?  This is funny, from the Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel regarding part of her jobs plan:

 

"The document's crowning glory, however, is Burke's unveiling of her "Wisconsin INSourcing Initiative (WIN)" to help keep jobs from moving overseas. "'Offshoring' (or 'outsourcing') American manufacturing jobs to other localities where labor is cheaper has been the dismal trend for over thirty years," Burke complains.

 

Yet Burke neglected to mention that she remains a significant shareholder in Trek Bicycle Corp., which moved much of its manufacturing operations to China. As part of her program, Burke says she will "specialize in recruiting (and retaining) manufacturers back from abroad." I'm pretty sure I know which number she can dial first — she probably has Trek's headquarters programmed in her cellphone. ("Hello, Trek? It's me, Mary — hey, I just raised the state's minimum wage, so come on back! Hello? Hello?")



Posted by: joanne at April 01, 2014 04:37 PM (s/quq)

158 And CAC, quite an impressive investigation on your part.  Kind of coma-inducing but good work nonetheless.

Posted by: joanne at April 01, 2014 04:39 PM (s/quq)

159 OT/ Remember when the IRS would send you the tax forms and an envelope every year, when they'd demand their blood from a stone. Not any more. They say you can get the proper forms from the Post Office. Ha Ha. You mean that place where all but one employee are always "at lunch" ? Now you have to download the forms, print them out, fill in the info, and provide your own envelope. ( and stamp) Good luck finding the proper address to send them to. Is this any way to run a country ? It costs you money to send them money.

Posted by: seamrog at April 01, 2014 04:43 PM (xdk6U)

160 153 If nothing else I appreciate the effort. CAC is sorta like a slightly less cute Oracle at Delphi from 300... I get that ... guess I just enjoy researching ballistics and food preservation more. To each their own. But I get it. And hey, you fuckin' filthy Scandi ... brighten up a bit. You are not allowed to go gently into that good night. It's kicking and damned screaming for the likes of you and me. Now buck up. When in doubt ... bitch more.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 01, 2014 04:50 PM (VdBU2)

161 "Walker stood up and was fearless. Rombley folded under pressure during the debates, too afraid to make a stand against a known lier."

Worse than being afraid to make a stand, Romney got up there in the second and third debates and said over and over a variant of, "I agree with the President on this."

Well, geez, Mitt, if you agree with the President on so many issues, why in the world did you even decide to run against him? On the basis of which of the two of you had the better hair?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 01, 2014 04:57 PM (noWW6)

162

In regards to the 2006 win by doyle the Libertarian candidate was Tommy Thompson's slow witted brother, Mayor Ed Thompson.  I believe he tilted the race to that asshat Doyle. 

 

Then Ed's retarded supporters in Tomah had the gall to put bumper stickers on their cars that said "Don't blame me, I voted for Ed."  

 

Math is hard.

Posted by: Minuteman at April 01, 2014 05:04 PM (SS7Gu)

163 About 500,000 more voters turned out for the presidential election than for the recall election--that's an almost 20% increase. Plus the voter turn out modeling for general elections is always different from off year elections and would probably be greatly different from a recall election held in the summer. I think the Romney campaign made a faulty analysis b y basing too much on that rare event the recall election when they banked so much on winning the state of Wisconsin--to the point of maybe even influencing Romney's VP pick.

Posted by: tasker at April 01, 2014 05:07 PM (RJMhd)

164 Bet you a big difference for Obama was the Wisconsin "Youth Vote" --they weren't out on summer break like they were for the recall election. Would have to find the demographic breakdowns for each election turn out and compare.

Posted by: tasker at April 01, 2014 05:10 PM (RJMhd)

165 About 500,000 more voters turned out for the presidential election than for the recall election--that's an almost 20% increase. Plus the voter turn out modeling for general elections is always different from off year elections and would probably be greatly different from a recall election held in the summer. Posted by: tasker at April 01, 2014 09:07 PM (RJMhd) The "election in the summer" was the highest recorded turnout for any non-Presidential race, and featured vote totals that, for Walker, exceeded that of McCain's in the 2008 Presidential year. You really couldn't ask for higher turnout outside of a Prez race, the month of the year be damned.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 05:17 PM (pQkGj)

166 Also by comparison, the June 2012 recall had over 350,000 more votes cast than the Nov 2012 gubernatorial race.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 05:19 PM (pQkGj)

167 IMO, Burke not having any kind of primary challenge ended up hurting her. She didn't get those big headlines to springboard her campaign. Has Bo Ryan ever endorsed or campaigned for a candidate?

Posted by: Gyaos at April 01, 2014 05:21 PM (yWFG6)

168 IMO, Burke not having any kind of primary challenge ended up hurting her. She didn't get those big headlines to springboard her campaign. Has Bo Ryan ever endorsed or campaigned for a candidate? Posted by: Gyaos at April 01, 2014 09:21 PM (yWFG6) I think they invested so heavily in the idea that "OMGZ TREK BICYCLES" and that she would be a big money candidate that other potential Ds just stayed away. An active primary would have given her some exposure over the next few months so she could (try) to control her image. I fully expect her to poll in the low 40s to 45% in the next few months, but she would likely be doing better if she had to face an opponent. Really, I think the Wisconsin Democrats are a bit demoralized. The recall was a horrendous mistake for them. Blew a lot of their ammunition in a very short time and inadvertently rallied the national GOP around him.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 05:30 PM (pQkGj)

169 The "election in the summer" was the highest recorded turnout for any non-Presidential race, and featured vote totals that, for Walker, exceeded that of McCain's in the 2008 Presidential year. You really couldn't ask for higher turnout outside of a Prez race, the month of the year be damned. Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 09:17 PM (pQkGj) *********** Correct--still--that recall election gets beat by some gubernatorial election during a presidential election year. So did some crappy comparisons and it looked like Romney outperformed Walker's recall election results in all of the bigger population areas that I looked at--jotting the stuff on a napkin because I'm weird --so not exactly perfect notations and some lazy rounding. Looks like the huge difference was in Milwaukee. Plus--Barrett was not that great a campaigner maybe. Obama outperforms Barrett in a lot of the cities. So Dane County--(Madison): Obama 215,389 Romney 83,459 Barrett 176,407 Walker 77,595 So Obama outperforms Barrett there by almost 39,000 votes. Waukesha Walker 154,316 Barrett 58,234 Romney 161,567 Obama 78,000 So Obama outperforms Barrett there by almost 20,000. But the huge difference appears to be Milwaukee. Barrett 250,000 Walker 143,455 Obama 320,654 Romney 153,635 So Romney outperforms Walker there but Obama significantly outperforms Barrett by almost-- 70,000 votes--and boom! there it is. The demographics of Milwaukee are available at quick facts. It is 40% African American the rest of Wisconsin on average is 6.3% African American--and I suspect the turn out for Obama was higher there than it was for the recall election.

Posted by: tasker at April 01, 2014 06:00 PM (RJMhd)

170 I'm off for dinner but I guess my basic point is Wisconsin is a lot like New York and California--they might vote for republican governors because that is their backyard and they don't want to be told what to do --NIMBY-- but when it comes to sending representatives to D.C. or when it comes to voting for president they are all about "Big Government" and regulations for everyone else in the "stupid states"--the South and flyover country.

Posted by: tasker at April 01, 2014 06:07 PM (RJMhd)

171 So Romney outperforms Walker there but Obama significantly outperforms Barrett by almost-- 70,000 votes--and boom! there it is. The demographics of Milwaukee are available at quick facts. It is 40% African American the rest of Wisconsin on average is 6.3% African American--and I suspect the turn out for Obama was higher there than it was for the recall election. Posted by: tasker at April 01, 2014 10:00 PM (RJMhd) You combined the county and city votes, and the point remains- Obama didn't win on Madison and Milwaukee CITY alone. He won because his numbers were better across the state- Walker enjoyed big leads in every region save for the Madison media market, and Romney utterly dropped the ball. The margins were piss-poor for Mitt across the state compared to the recall- even if he had "more" votes, his margins in counties like Waukesha weren't as spectacular, his margin in Brown County (Green Bay) was atrocious (he almost lost), same for Outagamie. If you JUST alter the results with the city of Milwaukee and Dane by the margins they gave out, Romney could have survived. Had he not crapped the bed everywhere else, particularly the northern half of the state.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 06:34 PM (pQkGj)

172 You need to separate Milwaukee County from Milwaukee City. Different animals. One is nominally light blue in Pres years, the latter is dark blue. The city is the part I focused on, because that is the bit that gets cited so much for fraud any everything else. The city only netted Obama 50,000 more votes than it did for Barrett. That Romney also severely underperformed Walker in the non-city part of MKE, Washington and Waukesha counties is damming too. But really, if you want to see red, look at how badly Romney did in the Green Bay area. Remember- Walker carried it by 24 points. Romney's performance was... eh... McCainesque?

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 06:36 PM (pQkGj)

173 Makes you wonder how the people who donated that $27 million spent in that state by Romney feel. Just.. Ugh.

Posted by: CAC at April 01, 2014 06:39 PM (pQkGj)

174

173 Makes you wonder how the people who donated that $27 million spent in that state by Romney feel.

Don't remind me, CAC.

Since I'm gratified by your interest in my state (gee I read the whole post and didn't find it boring:-), here's some more info you might find interesting:

There are fairly significant differences within Milwaukee County. The affluent northern suburbs used to be more Republican than they are. The most left-wing burb is Shorewood, which is home to the sort of well-heeled lib who lives in a lovely early 20th century home and does her grocery shopping at Whole Foods (Madison is filled to the gills with such types).

 

The southeastern suburbs are blue collar and used to be home to a lot of Polish factory workers. However, the Poles and other white ethnics have begun moving out and are being replaced by Hispanics and blacks. They've become poorer and shabbier than they were when I was a kid, since it's not like the factories have made a come-back. So they're still Dem territory, although the remaining whites also include a lot of veterans and older people. I remember seeing a mix of signs there during the presidential and governor race.

 

The western and south-western burbs (ranging from affluent to middle-middle class) are the ones trending conservative. Of particular interest is Oak Creek, which was farm country when I was a kid and is now filled with subdivisions. It's the place a young couple looking for an affordable starter home and decent schools will settle and it's growing very rapidly. I saw nary an Obama or Barrett sign there.

Milwaukeeans have always had an inferiority complex about being a dinky city in the shadow of Chicago; however, when it comes to elections, I'm happy it's not Chicago, not just because they're the dirtiest goddamn crooks in the country down there but because Milwaukee just doesn't have the massive pull Cook County does and so can't drag the rest of the state down with it. I find it very odd - and yet reassuring - that if I get in my car and drive west on I-94 in a half hour, I'll be in deep red Waukesha. In an hour and a half I'll be in commie Madison. But in Illinois, that blue goes across the entire northern part of the state. Milwaukee and Dane Counties don't have any pull beyond their borders.

 

Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at April 01, 2014 08:06 PM (R3gO3)

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