April 21, 2014

Geraghty: Left's Overpraise of Chelsea Clinton Gives Away Their True Feelings About Aristocracy
— Ace

Via @rdbrewer4, a really good piece.

Chelsea assures us that her past workplaces were “incredibly, fiercely meritocratic.” Sometimes in past interviews, the interviewer inadvertently expresses surprise at the seemingly high-level jobs Chelsea Clinton gets handed...

Chelsea took that “Assistant Vice Provost” position [at an NYU school] in 2010, at age 30.

Now Chelsea’s “making her move”, which warranted that Fast Company cover piece:

Now, finally, she has decided to join the Clinton family business. As vice chair of the recently rebranded Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation, she is helping one of the worldÂ’s most notable philanthropies grow up.

She must have been extraordinarily talented to be named vice chair of an organization that has her name in its title, huh? What are the odds?

...

Dear friends on the Left: You canÂ’t bemoan the death of opportunity in America, and rail against the richest one percent, and then devour puff pieces on how exceptionally talented and wonderful the offspring of our super-wealthy political leaders are, earning plaudits just by showing up with their famous last names.

The New York Times' public editor (ombudsmen) Arthur Brisbane described exactly how the media covers their favorite causes in 2012:

I also noted two years ago that I had taken up the public editor duties believing “there is no conspiracy” and that The Times’s output was too vast and complex to be dictated by any Wizard of Oz-like individual or cabal. I still believe that, but also see that the hive on Eighth Avenue is powerfully shaped by a culture of like minds — a phenomenon, I believe, that is more easily recognized from without than from within.

When The Times covers a national presidential campaign, I have found that the lead editors and reporters are disciplined about enforcing fairness and balance, and usually succeed in doing so. Across the paper’s many departments, though, so many share a kind of political and cultural progressivism — for lack of a better term — that this worldview virtually bleeds through the fabric of The Times.

As a result, developments like the Occupy movement and gay marriage seem almost to erupt in The Times, overloved and undermanaged, more like causes than news subjects.

Posted by: Ace at 09:52 AM | Comments (423)
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1 Morning Ace.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 21, 2014 09:53 AM (ojnk6)

2 First?!

Posted by: rightwingva at April 21, 2014 09:54 AM (kCnae)

3 wow, they want royalty here. of course only they can be the royalty

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 09:54 AM (nqBYe)

4 Shameless nepotism.

Posted by: Ronin Farrow at April 21, 2014 09:54 AM (Ua6T/)

5 So close.

Posted by: rightwingva at April 21, 2014 09:54 AM (kCnae)

6 So, how did the pancakes turn out?

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 09:54 AM (7ObY1)

7 The MSM's dream ticket: Hillary/Chelsea.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at April 21, 2014 09:54 AM (hpgw1)

8 Go, Team 0.01%!

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at April 21, 2014 09:54 AM (wyL+Z)

9 drat, i wanted to b 1st

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 09:54 AM (nqBYe)

10 Getting a job based on your last name. Weak.

Posted by: Luke Russert at April 21, 2014 09:55 AM (7ObY1)

11 Oh, come now. She seems quite talented and accomplished as these sorts of things go. I briefly worked at my family's foundation and didn't last a week.

Posted by: Bertie Wooster at April 21, 2014 09:55 AM (ZPrif)

12 Just another vapid, untalented  celebrity trying to capitalize on her name recognition.

Like mother. Like daughter.

Cripes. She is not even talented enough to star on The Voice.

Haven't we seen enough of this since 2008 to know these people are not good leaders?

Posted by: Marcus T. at April 21, 2014 09:56 AM (GGCsk)

13 Fucking 1-percenters.

Posted by: Sofia Coppola at April 21, 2014 09:56 AM (ZPrif)

14 Morning, Ace.  How are you feeling today?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2014 09:56 AM (zF6Iw)

15 That's my daughter, all right!

Posted by: Webb Hubble at April 21, 2014 09:57 AM (y9dfJ)

16 If I'm ever voting for a Clinton, it's gonna be George.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at April 21, 2014 09:57 AM (wyL+Z)

17 My aura dances the fandango, purses its lips, and clamors the word "nepotism."

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 09:57 AM (7ObY1)

18 I used to love reading Fast Company. When I saw her on the cover, I thought, gee, I wonder just how a-m-a-z-i-n-g this wunderkind is!!! Another magazine I can add to my never-again list.

Posted by: rightwingva at April 21, 2014 09:57 AM (kCnae)

19 So, how did the pancakes turn out?
Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 01:54 PM (7ObY1)

Looks like he overbeat them.

They tell you right on the box..."Do not overbeat"

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 09:57 AM (6T8Ay)

20 Fuck the Clintons. 

That is all.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, who does NOT speak for the Department of Commerce, Office of Inspector General at April 21, 2014 09:57 AM (fwARV)

21 overloved and undermanaged The story of Obama

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 09:57 AM (fWAjv)

22 well look, who else should be in charge of our fiscal decline as those it won't effect a bit?

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 09:57 AM (nqBYe)

23 That ombudsman sure needed a lot of word to basically say "We're full of shit".

Posted by: Adam at April 21, 2014 09:58 AM (Aif/5)

24 wow, they want royalty here.

of course only they can be the royalty

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:54 PM (nqBYe)

 

Actually, willow, I'd say what they want is absolutism.  They're all little Louis XIVs at heart, and DC is a vast Versailles.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2014 09:58 AM (zF6Iw)

25 Yup. What is interesting is that the stage handling was reported. Nothing says super confident woman like having to be surrounded by handlers zealously guarding your every word and move all day long.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 09:58 AM (mf5HN)

26 Word, words. Fucking touchscreen.

Posted by: Adam at April 21, 2014 09:58 AM (Aif/5)

27 Think about it. Her father is mostly famous for doinking a long list of women, the most infamous of which was young enough to be his daughter.

The Clinton's are akin to a clown car at the political circus. But their fanbois! keep slobbering on.

Posted by: Marcus T. at April 21, 2014 09:58 AM (GGCsk)

28 16 If I'm ever voting for a Clinton, it's gonna be George. The state of the union addresses would be superfunkadelic indeed.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 09:58 AM (7ObY1)

29 Actually, willow, I'd say what they want is absolutism. They're all little Louis XIVs at heart, and DC is a vast Versailles.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (zF6Iw)

::: Looks out window past Reagan Airport and at the Capitol Dome :::

Then Arlington must be....the stables.

I know...I know...don't tell me - "wait for the shake"

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:00 AM (6T8Ay)

30 young enough to be his daughter

So you are saying that he has shown remarkable restraint?

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 21, 2014 10:00 AM (L02KD)

31 Will Chelsea name the kid 'Reset'?

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 21, 2014 10:00 AM (oDCMR)

32 so should we still use the terms Queen and Kings, or autocrat, despots, and self crowning heads ?

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 10:00 AM (nqBYe)

33 That's right. A "meritocracy".
So fuck off, peasants...

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at April 21, 2014 10:00 AM (yv+63)

34 I asked a prog what had the Clinton Global Inititative acutually achieved, other than have talks and conferences What had they actually done, if anything? you would think I told him his child was ugly I persisted, what have they done? he could not answer, sputtered instead I pointed out that there was a problem last fall after an external audit revealed that they had spend insane sums of money on travel and private planes then he was mad still couldn't tell me what they had accomplished, other than keep the names of the family in the presses mouths

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 10:00 AM (zOTsN)

35 What's Webb doing these days?

Posted by: BignJames at April 21, 2014 10:01 AM (ZNQKl)

36 She didn't earn that hedge fund job she got out of college either. And she is on all these corporate boards, too. Don't forget that just a year ago, the Clinton Foundation was cited as being mismanaged with little money being awarded and the money that was being given to Clinton cronies and jobs also being given to the cronies. That all hit the news and then was quickly swept under the carpet.

Posted by: Sad Pug at April 21, 2014 10:01 AM (8c12T)

37 She had/has the power to destroy Bill Clinton. But hasn't.

Therefore she is just as qualified, and over-achieving, and "scary smart" as Hillary. 

Posted by: War on womens at April 21, 2014 10:02 AM (ihRMJ)

38 Apparently she had to leave those "intensely, fiercely meritocratic" workplaces because she didn't measure up. Nothing like the family business riding to the rescue to provide Princess with a long-term source of sheltered income, amiright?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth (@Teresa_Koch) at April 21, 2014 10:02 AM (PZ6/M)

39 35What's Webb doing these days?

Posted by: BignJames at April 21, 2014 02:01 PM (ZNQKl)

 

 

 

 

 

Stinking?

Posted by: maddogg at April 21, 2014 10:02 AM (xWW96)

40 I pointed out that there was a problem last fall after an external audit revealed that they had spend insane sums of money on travel and private planes

then he was mad


I've noticed this trend with libtards.  They take slights like this personally, like you just insulted their mother.  Pols are like their "extended family", a distant relative that they don't get to see that often.  When you start talking shit about them, they get angry.


Newsflash:  politicians are NOT your friends.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:03 AM (GQ8sn)

41 Look shouldn't they consider different court jesters than Jon Stewart and Colbert? Aren't they getting a little long in the tooth for this brave new world?

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 10:03 AM (nqBYe)

42 Last 20 years of Boston Marathon winners. 1 South Korean 3 Ethiopians 15 Kenyans and finally 1 good ol 'Murican (born in Eritrea)

Posted by: Race is a Social Construct! at April 21, 2014 10:03 AM (ZPrif)

43 Will Obama's daughters receive the same kiss-ass treatment as Chelsea?

Posted by: boniface ballers at April 21, 2014 10:03 AM (l3RZ9)

44 Geraghty's piece is related to the whole apparent contradiction here between the view of Hillary! as "incredibly accomplished" and the difficulty of answering what precisely she has accomplished. To those who love her, her accomplishments are being First Lady, Senator, presidential candidate, Secretary of State - and they think who ask, "So what did she get done while in those jobs?" miss the point.

Posted by: JPS at April 21, 2014 10:03 AM (nXMCz)

45 If Liberals really were Ubermenschen they wouldn't be Liberals, would they? Unearned success is the very air they breath.

Posted by: The Sleeping Prophet at April 21, 2014 10:03 AM (QupBk)

46 In other words, "Kneel before Her Royal Haughtiness Chelsea Manning-Clinton."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:03 AM (DlqJm)

47 In 2012, Chelsea said she wanted to be pregnant in two years. Timing has nothing to do with her mothers run for the Presidentcy. No sireee, no way

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 10:04 AM (zOTsN)

48 I'm already sick of hearing about her clump of parasitic cells.  And then next year the puff pieces lauding her "overachievements"[sic] will tack on "as a young mother", as if she doesn't have crazy paid help for childcare, food preparation, house cleaning, laundry, in addition to only having to show up to an office when she feels like it.

It is to puke.

Posted by: HR at April 21, 2014 10:04 AM (ZKzrr)

49 Hmm. Baroness Chelsea of Little Rock. Hmmm.

Posted by: Chelsea, at her "job" at April 21, 2014 10:04 AM (RD7QR)

50

Only liberals would refer to a non-profit foundation as the "family business".

 

 

Posted by: AJ Lynch at April 21, 2014 10:04 AM (ASPsd)

51 WTF? The NY Slime has causes? Who would have thought that? Everyone knows that the Times is completely color blind and never hires for Affirmative Action. Well, after me not so much. http://tinyurl.com/7uhnhq

Posted by: Jayson Blair at April 21, 2014 10:04 AM (0FSuD)

52 27 Think about it. Her father is mostly famous for doinking a long list of women, the most infamous of which was young enough to be his daughter. The Clinton's are akin to a clown car at the political circus. But their fanbois! keep slobbering on. Posted by: Marcus T. at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (GGCsk) I'm sure Chelsea will also doink a long list of men. Like father like daughter. Though she's butt ugly, it never stopped Kerry Kennedy who should be in jail but, well...she's royalty, too.

Posted by: Sad Pug at April 21, 2014 10:05 AM (8c12T)

53 this was the perfect post to use the delight 'nepot' phrase.

Posted by: The Sleeping Prophet at April 21, 2014 10:05 AM (QupBk)

54 It's only natural that Chelsea would be so gifted - her father is Father of the Year afterall.

Posted by: gwelf at April 21, 2014 10:05 AM (TJ8HB)

55 or delightful either or zzzZZZZZzzzz

Posted by: The Sleeping Prophet at April 21, 2014 10:05 AM (QupBk)

56 Marx Brothers dialog as rewritten by the Obama Administration: Groucho: "You wouldn't kick me out of bed for eating crackers, would you?" Margaret Dumont: "I hate me every iota of a cracker."

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:06 AM (mizYg)

57 I'm sure Chelsea will also doink a long list of men. Like father like daughter.


Behind her husband's back?


Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:06 AM (GQ8sn)

58 look as Hillary is getting a little old for this cht, I mean the optics! Shouldn't Chelsea run instead, look she can have the peons kiss her babies royal feet, it would make Great pics.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 10:06 AM (nqBYe)

59 They tell you right on the box..."Do not overbeat" Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 21, 2014 01:57 PM (6T8Ay) *types* *deletes* *types* *deletes*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 10:06 AM (mf5HN)

60


Honestly, David Gregory is wondering, quite frankly, why you aren't talking about him.



Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at April 21, 2014 10:07 AM (xggaJ)

61 and finally 1 good ol 'Murican

The foreign nationals were delayed by security.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 21, 2014 10:07 AM (L02KD)

62 Behind her husband's back? ----- You never know, he may join her.

Posted by: Frank Underwood at April 21, 2014 10:08 AM (Aif/5)

63 her husband was allegedly a ladies man in college. So perhaps she married daddy. They lived apart after only five months of marriage. Perhaps she learned about marriage from mommy. I am pretty sure her hubby "works" for the Clinton Initiative as well. I am pretty sure they have a business arrangement pretty similar to her parents. Like business partners

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 10:08 AM (zOTsN)

64 For years I'v been making a joke, whenever people start talking about presidential frontrunners two or three years away from the next upcoming election, by saying sarcastically, "Chelsea 2028!" Now it doesn't seem so humorous any more.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:09 AM (mizYg)

65

I'm reminded, as I often am when Chelsea Clinton's name comes up, of John Derbyshire's article from 2001 titled "Be Afraid."  A taste:

 

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More than anything, I admit, I hate Chelsea because she is a Clinton.    Not just genetically a Clinton, but in spirit and habit and manner. The evidence for this is now, I think, sufficient to indict.

Item: Last Christmas Eve, the Clintons attended Midnight Holy Communion at the National Cathedral in Washington. Chelsea was the first Clinton to show up Â… seven minutes into the introit! Mom and Dad were even later, of course. But why did Chelsea have to be late at all?  To Holy Communion!   It's just so Â… Clintonian, the utter lack of regard for other people. If you are a Clinton, other people don't exist, except for the few seconds they are handing over money to you or Â… well, you know.

Item: At the Middle East peace talks in Camp David last year, Chelsea took dinner with her father and Ehud Barak, and so monopolized the conversation, the Israelis are said to have been offended. Excuse me, but what the hell is Chelsea doing inserting herself into extremely delicate diplomatic negotiations? What position does she hold in the diplomatic corps? Who appointed her? We are told that Chelsea is by far the most traveled presidential offspring in history. On whose tab? To what purpose? Did she turn down any of these junkets? Of course not. Again, it's so Clintonian — the sense of entitlement, of sneering, lofty indifference to the fact that this money I am spending has been ripped from the pockets of hard-working Americans, most of them much poorer than me, by force of law. The apple does not fall far from the tree.

Item: When Chelsea went off to Stanford, we were told that she planned to study to become a pediatric cardiologist. How noble! —to give over one's life to curing the heart problems of little kiddies! Yeah, right. A Clinton, giving over her life for anything at all other than … herself. Now that there is no need for spin, we hear that her next stop is at Oxford University to study Economics. That's about m-o-n-e-y. Much more interesting than those damn kids and their stupid messed-up hearts.

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 21, 2014 10:09 AM (eytER)

66 OK a question for the Horde. Chelsea is married to a Jewish fellow, who's dad is a convicted felon. Does this make her a JAP? Jewish American Princess?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 21, 2014 10:09 AM (0FSuD)

67 "I asked a prog what had the Clinton Global Inititative acutually achieved, other than have talks and conferences"

The left regard talking and conferring as _bonum in se_, regardless of whether anything actually useful results.

Because they can be seen, and can represent it to themselves, as Doing Something Laudable. Even if the something is nothing. Or just empty chin music.

See also: United Nations organization.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2014 10:09 AM (noWW6)

68 I've always said I don't find Colbert funny. Now I can make one exception. But only one. Over the weekend I watched the documentary on Rush (the band) called Beyond the Lighted Stage. Great flick, BTW. Anyway, there's a clip in the movie from when Colbert had Rush on his show once and asked them: "Some of your songs are so long, do you ever get to the end of one of them and find out you were influenced by yourselves?" OK, it's only funny to a Rush fan or Prog Rock nerds in general, but I actually laughed. Funny line. Credit where due. Still not a funny guy in general though.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 10:10 AM (7ObY1)

69 and finally 1 good ol 'Murican (born in Eritrea) Eritrea, Iowa. ---------------- What I'm totally stoked about is Barry's kids growing up. "This is gonna be great!!!"

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 10:10 AM (GXZgZ)

70 ....the puff pieces lauding her "overachievements"[sic] will tack on "as a young mother".... News flash for the news outlets - Chelsea is 34. She is nearing the END of her fertile years. A "young" mother she ain't.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth (@Teresa_Koch) at April 21, 2014 10:10 AM (PZ6/M)

71 Will Obama's daughters receive the same kiss-ass treatment as Chelsea?

Posted by: boniface ballers at April 21, 2014 02:03 PM (l3RZ9)

 

 

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Hopefully, and in time, we'll see just how fucked  up  all these families are and reject them  as forcefully as the Bush's have been rejected.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2014 10:10 AM (cu9Nx)

72 Time for an update: "Malia 2036!!"

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:11 AM (mizYg)

73 In fairness, I have never seen anyone interview a CGI lizard quite like Chelsea Clinton did on that fateful day. 

You could tell something moved inside of  her.

Posted by: Fritz at April 21, 2014 10:11 AM (oJUxt)

74 16 If I'm ever voting for a Clinton, it's gonna be George. --- George Clinton and Herbie Hancock in 2016

Posted by: Thomas Callahan III at April 21, 2014 10:11 AM (APuJ7)

75 "Item: When Chelsea went off to Stanford, we were told that she planned to study to become a pediatric cardiologist."

Meanwhile, the left rain down crude derision on Ben Carson, who actually is a brilliant and accomplished pediatric surgeon.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2014 10:11 AM (noWW6)

76 Anyway, there's a clip in the movie from when Colbert had Rush on his show once and asked them: "Some of your songs are so long, do you ever get to the end of one of them and find out you were influenced by yourselves?"

Meh...he's talking about their early work.  I could listen to La Villa Strangiato all day long.

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:12 AM (GQ8sn)

77 You could tell something moved inside of her. That was just her womb, clamoring.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 10:12 AM (7ObY1)

78 Hopefully, and in time, we'll see just how fucked up all these families are and reject them as forcefully as the Bush's have been rejected. Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2014 02:10 PM (cu9Nx) No, because there is a (D) after their names. While the Bushes have (R) Having an (R) after your name is like having leprosy, scurvy, gout and VD all at the same time according to the media.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 10:12 AM (HVff2)

79 The left regard talking and conferring as _bonum in se_, regardless of whether anything actually useful results.  Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2014 02:09 PM (noWW6)

...because they are also incurvatus in se

::: fist bump :::

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:13 AM (6T8Ay)

80 77 You could tell something moved inside of her. That was just her womb, clamoring. --- Knock knock

Posted by: Alien Chestburster at April 21, 2014 10:14 AM (APuJ7)

81 Meh...he's talking about their early work. I could listen to La Villa Strangiato all day long. EC, the bonus disc to the movie has a vintage 1979 live performance of La Villa Strangiato that fucking KILLS. And Alex had a severly bruised middle finger on his fretting hand, too. Made no difference, it's a KILLER performance. One of my favorite pieces ever, by anyone.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 10:14 AM (7ObY1)

82 Are we really surprised about this?   All of the Kennedy wimmenz are too old, dried up and pickled in their own rancid excretions to have babies anymore, and all the young    ones who marry into the family   either beat feet within a few years and get a divorce or else end up dead at a young age thanks to the cancerous nature of the Kennedy clan.    The left is desperate for their new    royalty, and since the Obammys' kids are still too young to be pumping out    little  scions    they're   more than happy to settle for the dynasty of Bubba J Clinton and his    breed sow.



Dear friends on the Left: You canÂ’t bemoan the death of opportunity in America, and rail against the richest one percent, and then devour puff pieces on how exceptionally talented and wonderful the offspring of our super-wealthy political leaders are, earning plaudits just by showing up with their famous last names.




Ronan    Farrow just called        Jim Geraghty to schedule an interview about this fascinating topic.        He was apparently dusting his Walter Cronkite Award      and checking the status of his last six figure paycheck     without a shred of irony    while on the phone.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 21, 2014 10:14 AM (4df7R)

83 Trivia question of the day: Who was this nation's first President?

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:14 AM (mizYg)

84 Once you have seen a Clinton vag, it can never be unseen, hence the one child

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 21, 2014 10:14 AM (nTgAI)

85 I was told there would be no Latin on this post.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2014 10:14 AM (zF6Iw)

86 (Clue: It wasn't George Washington.)

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:14 AM (mizYg)

87 ...because they are also incurvatus in se Bent over?

Posted by: The Sleeping Prophet at April 21, 2014 10:14 AM (QupBk)

88 When Grandma Hillary crashes and burns a second time can we then 'Move On'? Serially.

Posted by: Chaos the Other Dark Meat at April 21, 2014 10:15 AM (oDCMR)

89 Trivia question of the day:

Who was this nation's first President?

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:14 PM (mizYg)

 

John Wayne ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 21, 2014 10:15 AM (nTgAI)

90 when Mark Steyn was asked by Hugh Hewitt what he though about the Clinton baby news, he said, "Well, I know who the Democratic nominee will be in 2052"

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 10:15 AM (zOTsN)

91 ...because they are also incurvatus in se Bent over?  Posted by: The Sleeping Prophet at April 21, 2014 02:14 PM (QupBk)


"curved in on"

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:15 AM (6T8Ay)

92 *keels over*

Clitnonista Vaginalope

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:15 AM (DlqJm)

93 Anyone know where I can buy a onesie with cloven hoof footie to send to Chelsea's baby shower? Also, mad props to Chelsea's husband. As far as I know, it's impossible to have the sperms scared out of you, so it obviously takes a special kind of hombre to keep thrusting away with her Hamadryas baboon looking snout looking up at you.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 21, 2014 10:15 AM (pqBkB)

94 Ooohh......Ronan Farrow interviewing Chelsea. Vistas of mediocrity.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (GXZgZ)

95 I was told there would be no Latin on this post.  Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2014 02:14 PM (zF6Iw)

Hey!  I had to suffer through Ecclesiastical Latin.  Now it's your turn!

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (6T8Ay)

96 John Wayne ? Posted by: The Jackhole Close, but no cigar. Actually, what am I saying: not close at all.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (mizYg)

97 Clitnonista Vaginalope

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 02:15 PM (DlqJm)



That sounds like a particularly painful variety of genital warts.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (4df7R)

98 John Jay.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (ZshNr)

99 Item: When Chelsea went off to Stanford, we were told that she planned to study to become a pediatric cardiologist. How noble! —to give over one's life to curing the heart problems of little kiddies! Yeah, right. A Clinton, giving over her life for anything at all other than … herself. Now that there is no need for spin, we hear that her next stop is at Oxford University to study Economics. That's about m-o-n-e-y. Much more interesting than those damn kids and their stupid messed-up hearts.


Derb may have missed the part where stupid scrunts don't get to be pediatric cardiologists, because becoming a pediatric cardiologist requires demonstrating that one can learn and think and you know, measurable accomplishments.

I've not worked in the health sector, but I understand they expect results.

Posted by: HR at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (ZKzrr)

100 "Will Obama's daughters receive the same kiss-ass treatment as Chelsea?"

OH yeah.

Septicemia and Malaria will be on the gravy train for life. A degree in a not too challenging subject, from a prestigious university, and then straight into the world of foundations, conferences, media, and government.

With "special" consultancy positions being magicked into existence to accommodate and advance their imperial majesties' persons. As Holbrooke did for Ronan Farrow _at the State Department_. Bringing extra fog to Foggy Bottom.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (noWW6)

101 "curved in on" Ah, an incest joke. The Aristocrats!

Posted by: The Sleeping Prophet at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (QupBk)

102 I suggest she only be referred to as Mrs Mezvinsky... let's she how many people recognize that name.

Posted by: mallfly at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (bJm7W)

103 98 John Jay. Posted by: Lincolntf Nope.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (mizYg)

104 How many kids must she have to somehow transmute her hag mother's failures into successes?

Posted by: ejo at April 21, 2014 10:16 AM (GXvSO)

105 No clue.

Posted by: Peyton Randolph at April 21, 2014 10:17 AM (Aif/5)

106 EC, the bonus disc to the movie has a vintage 1979 live performance of La Villa Strangiato that fucking KILLS.

And Alex had a severly bruised middle finger on his fretting hand, too.

Made no difference, it's a KILLER performance.

One of my favorite pieces ever, by anyone.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 02:14 PM (7ObY1)



My BIL is a huge Rush fan too, and he lives in upstate NY as well.  He used to be a drummer back in his early college days.  He worships Neil Peart as a god with no equals.


Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:17 AM (GQ8sn)

107 Meanwhile, the left rain down crude derision on Ben Carson, who actually is a brilliant and accomplished pediatric surgeon. Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2014 02:11 PM (noWW6) Pediatric neurosurgeon. As someone said, that's about as close to being God on this Earth as a human being can get.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 10:17 AM (mf5HN)

108 94 Ooohh......Ronan Farrow interviewing Chelsea. Vistas of mediocrity. --- There ain't no vista, there ain't no view, and there sure as hell ain't no vista of now view.

Posted by: Rhonda Deane at April 21, 2014 10:17 AM (APuJ7)

109 Trivia question of the day: Who was this nation's first President? Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:14 PM (mizYg) ------------ John Hanson

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 21, 2014 10:17 AM (ojnk6)

110 Who was this nation's first President?

Trick question - it wasn't Sam Houston, it was David Burnet.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 21, 2014 10:18 AM (L02KD)

111 105 No clue. Posted by: Peyton Randolph You consider yourselves 'Muricans and you don't even know who the first president was?????

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:18 AM (mizYg)

112 Trivia question of the day:

Who was this nation's first President?

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:14 PM (mizYg)



Bill Clinton.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 21, 2014 10:18 AM (4df7R)

113 Also, mad props to Chelsea's husband. As far as I know, it's impossible to have the sperms scared out of you, so it obviously takes a special kind of hombre to keep thrusting away with her Hamadryas baboon looking snout looking up at you. Posted by: Empire of Jeff doooode turn her around

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 10:18 AM (zOTsN)

114 Pray tell, then, who, and by what criteria?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:18 AM (ZshNr)

115 Luckily I found a picture of the MSM covering the Clintons.

http://tinyurl.com/n7lw4bw

Posted by: MTF at April 21, 2014 10:18 AM (F58x4)

116 Also, mad props to Chelsea's husband. As far as I know, it's impossible to have the sperms scared out of you, so it obviously takes a special kind of hombre to keep thrusting away with her Hamadryas baboon looking snout looking up at you.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 21, 2014 02:15 PM (pqBkB)



No, he taped a pic of Kate Upton to the back of her head.



Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:18 AM (GQ8sn)

117 Bringing extra fog to Foggy Bottom.Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2014 02:16 PM (noWW6)
Extra bottom too.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 21, 2014 10:18 AM (I9I9J)

118 EOJ -- some dudes could hump a chupacabra.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 10:18 AM (GXZgZ)

119 No, he taped a pic of Kate Upton to the back of her head. --- Three words- Mystical Pleasure Bag

Posted by: Jerome "Chef" McElroy at April 21, 2014 10:19 AM (APuJ7)

120 Pray tell, then, who, and by what criteria?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 02:18 PM (ZshNr)



I say Bill Clinton because, according to the MFM, all history started with Clinton.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 21, 2014 10:19 AM (4df7R)

121 oh, and this line from the article, where Mrs Mezvinsky says "I took a job at NYU to fund my doctoral studies"... doesn't her family have like a ton of money? NYU couldn't find someone a little more in need of the job? I'd be embarrassed to say I went to NYU if the school hadn't said it first about me.

Posted by: mallfly at April 21, 2014 10:19 AM (bJm7W)

122 My BIL is a huge Rush fan too, and he lives in upstate NY as well. He used to be a drummer back in his early college days. He worships Neil Peart as a god with no equals. I was surprised to learn in the movie that Peart actually has a drum teacher. Or I should say he had one, as I believe the teacher has since passed away. But damn, that's like Shakespeare taking a Lit course.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 10:19 AM (7ObY1)

123

He means the President under the Articles of Confederation.

 

I forget the name.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2014 10:19 AM (zF6Iw)

124 Pediatric neurosurgeon. As someone said, that's about as close to being God on this Earth as a human being can get.  Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 02:17 PM (mf5HN)

They are in my book.  Happiest day of my life was when a Pediatric Cardiologist came out of an exam room after seeing my 4-day old daughter and said, "I never want to see you again."

Then he smiled. 

Of course, he was also wearing a Boston Red Sox tie, so maybe that's what made it memorable....

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:19 AM (6T8Ay)

125 Chesla has a snapper! Everyone knows that!

Posted by: The SAE's At Sanford at April 21, 2014 10:19 AM (0FSuD)

126 MWR, that could describe the entire Clitnon ground vine...  genital warts

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:20 AM (DlqJm)

127 A "young" mother she ain't.

I've noticed media refer to any first-time mother, regardless of age, as a "young mother."  But I meant to type "young working mother", as if she'll ever put in 8 hours at the transmission assembly plant, then pick up the kid, then make a dinner he'll actually eat, then try to get him in bed so she can fold some laundry and clean the toilet.

Those women get to hear about her heroic (fake) struggle to balance "work" and "family" on the Today Show while they look for their kid's mittens the next morning.

Posted by: HR at April 21, 2014 10:20 AM (ZKzrr)

128 Pediatric neurosurgeon. As someone said, that's about as close to being God on this Earth as a human being can get. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 02:17 PM (mf5HN)



Unless your name is    Ben Carson.   Then you're an Uncle Tom.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 21, 2014 10:20 AM (4df7R)

129 OT: Drew M. in the previous post asked if there was a word in German that meant a person who thought he was smart but in fact was stupid. In Yiddish, the word is "oberchochem" which loosely translated means a "know-it-all." Not in the actual sense but in the Cliff Klavan sense.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 21, 2014 10:20 AM (CMkNk)

130 109 Trivia question of the day: Who was this nation's first President? Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:14 PM (mizYg) ------------ John Hanson Posted by: ManWithNoParty WE HAVE A WINNER!!! John Hanson was this nation's first president. However, he was president BEFORE the Constitution was passed, so he wasn't elected by national popular vote, but rather by a vote in the Continental Congress, in 1781. Later, after the rules for nationwide elections were established in the Constitution, Washington was elected. By wasn't the first president, but rather merely the first president elected under the Constitution. But the United States existed for 13 years between 1776 and 1789!

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:21 AM (mizYg)

131 128 Unless your name is Ben Carson. Then you're an Uncle Tom. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 21, 2014 02:20 PM (4df7R) If he ever were a candidate, he'd be called Uncle Ben's (Condi) RiceÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 21, 2014 10:21 AM (CMkNk)

132 turn her around Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 02:18 PM (zOTsN) ----------------------------------- And look at her red, swollen baboon ass? Dude chose the lesser of two evils, I suppose.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 21, 2014 10:21 AM (pqBkB)

133 121 oh, and this line from the article, where Mrs Mezvinsky says "I took a job at NYU to fund my doctoral studies"... doesn't her family have like a ton of money? NYU couldn't find someone a little more in need of the job? I'd be embarrassed to say I went to NYU if the school hadn't said it first about me. --- I'm guessing it's not much different from many places within Louisiana "happening" to hire a bunch of politically connected people. This just gets more press than normal because the media's still hoping and praying Chelsea will turn into ANYTHING. It's pretty sad when Caroline Kennedy is a better political operator than you.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:22 AM (APuJ7)

134 "Also, mad props to Chelsea's husband. As far as I know, it's impossible to have the sperms scared out of you, so it obviously takes a special kind of hombre to keep thrusting away with her Hamadryas baboon looking snout looking up at you." You are assuming I've taken a position on this.

Posted by: Missionary at April 21, 2014 10:22 AM (l3vZN)

135 And look at her red, swollen baboon ass? Dude chose the lesser of two evils, I suppose.  Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 21, 2014 02:21 PM (pqBkB)

Don't be so hasty, EoJ.  With the right lighting that could be kinda hawt.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:22 AM (6T8Ay)

136 114 Pray tell, then, who, and by what criteria? Posted by: Lincolntf See comment #130.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:22 AM (mizYg)

137 Stop hating on Chelsea!!! She has a funny TV show!

Posted by: Meghan McCain at April 21, 2014 10:23 AM (aTXUx)

138 133 It's pretty sad when Caroline Kennedy is a better political operator than you. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 02:22 PM (APuJ7) LOL! Send that out on Twitter!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 21, 2014 10:23 AM (CMkNk)

139 134 "Also, mad props to Chelsea's husband. As far as I know, it's impossible to have the sperms scared out of you, so it obviously takes a special kind of hombre to keep thrusting away with her Hamadryas baboon looking snout looking up at you." You are assuming I've taken a position on this. --- I've found that using a cattle prod can cause an involuntary reaction like the one you'd want.

Posted by: Dr. Hannibal Lecter at April 21, 2014 10:23 AM (APuJ7)

140 There is a reason why Chelsea is being pushed as the "face" of the Clintons, and that is because she is young. Back in 92 when Clinton ran, the MSM did all kinds of puff pieces on the young dynamic power couple that was running for office, and how Hillary was going to be the most trusted adviser of the President! Why, it was almost as if they were going to have a "co-Presidency", and then Hillary became a liability. Fast forward to 2008. Hillary is running for President, and guess what it will be? Another "co-Presidency" of this power couple, and with Bill as the face of the campaign. Both still dynamic and featuring their freshly graduated from college daughter. Fast forward to 2016. Hillary is pushing 70, no longer 1/2 of a dynamic young power couple. Her husband has started to look and sound frail, what to do? Simple, make your daughter the face of the campaign to try to counter what will probably be the GOP's youth of its candidates. Just having Chelsea on the campaign trail will make Hillary the "youth candidate" for the MSM. Another bonus, Chelsea can bank a shitload of cash in salary without having to go under public scrutiny during the campaign.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 10:23 AM (HxSXm)

141 Sean Bannion thinking like a track toad again.  Emergency sex after 30 days in the field in a jungle hellhole, suddenly anything remotely female looking starts to look beautiful.  Though I think Sean would still balk at Helen Thomas.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:23 AM (DlqJm)

142 Seems like everything eventually comes back in style. Sideburns, bell-bottoms ... and now Tories.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 21, 2014 10:24 AM (mUtlc)

143 141 Sean Bannion thinking like a track toad again. Emergency sex after 30 days in the field in a jungle hellhole, suddenly anything remotely female looking starts to look beautiful. Though I think Sean would still balk at Helen Thomas. --- Since when does The Cryptkeeper look remotely female?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:24 AM (APuJ7)

144 Caroline Kennedy 2016  or Chelsea Clinton 2016
The butterfly    or  the thug?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:25 AM (DlqJm)

145 Okay, I'll buy Hanson as some version of "First", but he was appointed by his fellow members of the Legislative body, not elected. John Jay was referred to as the "First President" as a term of respect, and to note his contributions back when he was still alive, that's who I always think of.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:25 AM (ZshNr)

146 121 oh, and this line from the article, where Mrs Mezvinsky says "I took a job at NYU to fund my doctoral studies"... doesn't her family have like a ton of money? NYU couldn't find someone a little more in need of the job? Posted by: mallfly at April 21, 2014 02:19 PM (bJm7W) Hillary and Chelsea lost their purses when they were dodging those snipers at the airport in Bosnia

Posted by: Meghan McCain at April 21, 2014 10:25 AM (aTXUx)

147 Chelsea? Wow, Monica must of taught her how to give BJ's. Or did her dad?

Posted by: The SAE's At Sanford at April 21, 2014 10:25 AM (0FSuD)

148 Fawning�

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2014 10:26 AM (aDwsi)

149 Chelsea took that “Assistant Vice Provost” position [at an NYU school] in 2010, at age 30. And without a Ph.D. Are you sure it wasn't "Assistant to the Vice Provost"? Because the other position shouldn't be possible, even with Chelsea's...breeding.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 21, 2014 10:26 AM (T0NGe)

150 Uhhh.....so I guess it wasn't Raymond Burr?

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 10:27 AM (GXZgZ)

151 In the medical profession, she would be referred to as an elderly primip.

Posted by: Sad Pug at April 21, 2014 10:27 AM (8c12T)

152 Sean Bannion thinking like a track toad again. Emergency sex after 30 days in the field in a jungle hellhole, suddenly anything remotely female looking starts to look beautiful. Though I think Sean would still balk at Helen Thomas.  Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 02:23 PM (DlqJm)

Puh-leeeze.  I would rather bang any random, rusty, jagged hole on a '67 Chevy than Helen Thomas.

I DO have SOME standards, despite being a cavalryman.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:27 AM (6T8Ay)

153 The Dems need a royalty and an associated aristocratic class.  Back in the day, royalty claimed a Divine Right - from God.  God, for a lot of the elites, is a fairy tale for children.  So, a "royalty" without a deity's approval.  Which leaves devotees with a problem: how to justify the elevation of a mere mortal born amongst us to the status of a king or queen?  Money? Well, the Koch Bros. have a LOT more money than the Clintons.  Unrelenting and innovative attacks against the political opposition?  A catalyst that gathers together the scattered communities of the aggrieved into a giant, lucrative (for the merited few) political machine?

Posted by: mrp at April 21, 2014 10:27 AM (JBggj)

154  But the United States existed for 13 years between 1776 and 1789!

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:21 PM (mizYg)

 

The United States of America did not exist until the Constituition was ratified thus the United in the title.

Posted by: polynikes at April 21, 2014 10:27 AM (m2CN7)

155 Sean Bannion thinking like a track toad again. Emergency sex after 30 days in the field in a jungle hellhole, suddenly anything remotely female looking starts to look beautiful. Though I think Sean would still balk at Helen Thomas. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 02:23 PM (DlqJm) ------------------------------------ Nonsense. By day three he would have already made a Field Expedient Emergency Vaginal out of an MRE heater, three OD green wool cushion-sole socks and a can of GMD

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 21, 2014 10:27 AM (pqBkB)

156 Next trivia question: Who is the United States of America's LAST president? Answer: Barack Hussein Dunham Obama. In 2015, the hastily-called Constitutional Convention re-named the nation the People's Socialist Republic of Race, Class and Gender. So that, technically speaking, the next president, Chelsea Clinton, was president of a different nation.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:28 AM (mizYg)

157 Anyone remember that SNL skit "Wayne's World"?  They were supposed to talk about girls who were NOT babes in one ep and they were going to mention Chelsea in the skit, but word got out to the WH and someone asked them to cut her name from it.


Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:28 AM (GQ8sn)

158 150 Uhhh.....so I guess it wasn't Raymond Burr? --- Maybe we should start playing the Perry Mason theme for Chelsea.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:28 AM (APuJ7)

159 31 Will Chelsea name the kid 'Reset'? Fannie Mae Mezvinsky-Clinton if it's a girl. Freddie Mac Mezvinsky-Clinton if it's a boy. They've already got a job lined up.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 21, 2014 10:28 AM (T0NGe)

160 Over the summer I thought that I would seek out non-Americans as friends, just for diversity's sake. Now I find that I want to be around Americans - people who I know are thinking about our country as much as I am. Chelsea Clinton ---- Ruh Roh.

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 10:28 AM (fWAjv)

161 Clinton Fun Fact:

When Hillary pushed Chelsea out of the "family tree," that wasn't a banana she was clutching.

Posted by: Fritz at April 21, 2014 10:28 AM (oJUxt)

162 My topic today is "Making It On Your Own" with my guests Caroline Kennedy, Chelsea Clinton, Meghan McCain, and Tori Spelling ...

Posted by: Ronan Farrow at April 21, 2014 10:28 AM (aTXUx)

163 157 Anyone remember that SNL skit "Wayne's World"? They were supposed to talk about girls who were NOT babes in one ep and they were going to mention Chelsea in the skit, but word got out to the WH and someone asked them to cut her name from it. --- It was on the first airing, but got cut on subsequent airings. Note, however, that the previous Top 10 answer was "The Gore daughters', which was allowed to stay because they were referred to as hot.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:29 AM (APuJ7)

164 John Jay. John Jay? John Jay Dunbar? Lt. John Jay Dunbar? That is your name, isn't it?

Posted by: Major Fambrough at April 21, 2014 10:29 AM (PMGbu)

165 let's not forget, when Mrs Mezvinsky was born, the Clintons are reputed to have hired a nanny but put her on the payroll as a member of the household security staff, if I recall the details right.

Posted by: mallfly at April 21, 2014 10:29 AM (bJm7W)

166 I DO have SOME standards, despite being a cavalryman. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 21, 2014 02:27 PM
=======
Interesting.  Why, just yesterday I took a look at the Norwich U.' website.  Coincidence?

Posted by: mrp at April 21, 2014 10:29 AM (JBggj)

167

Will Obama's daughters receive the same kiss-ass treatment as Chelsea?

 

Not so much.  Democrats, especially the rich, old line Democrats are at their base racist.  The party embraced slavery, and even after the Civil War settled the issue, the Democrat KKK and Democrat State Legislatures gutted black civil rights with Jim Crow laws.  Jim Crow came to Washington DC when Woodrow Wilson, a proud NJ Democrat was elected US President. 

 

The Obama kids may be hired on as tokens, if they know their place, and toe the line.  After all, even white as snow liberal MSNBC has their token black commentator.

 

 

Posted by: someone has to say it at April 21, 2014 10:30 AM (N7QgG)

168 You know for a rich kid you would think she would have had her teeth fixed, BUT man those buck teeth felt mighty good.

Posted by: The SAE's At Sanford at April 21, 2014 10:30 AM (0FSuD)

169 gonna name the kid Emma Goldman Clinton Mezvinsky

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 10:30 AM (zOTsN)

170 Because the other position shouldn't be possible, ... ----------------- We've been over this already...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2014 10:30 AM (aDwsi)

171 Nonsense. By day three he would have already made a Field Expedient Emergency Vaginal out of an MRE heater, three OD green wool cushion-sole socks and a can of GMD Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 21, 2014 02:27 PM (pqBkB)

Well, it was actually Grease, Automotive and Artillery (GAA)  NSN 9150-01-197-7692 in the 35 lb can.

But....point taken.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:30 AM (6T8Ay)

172 So as to not seem ungrateful, I won't comment on the quality of the post. Let me just say "Way to get the ball rolling, Ace!"

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at April 21, 2014 10:30 AM (RHLfG)

173 If we ever find that East Africans have a higher rate of certain genes that increase long distance running ability then the world as we know it will collapse! Everyone is exactly the same! Do not search for the Forbidden Knowledge that has been Forbidden!! It should not be true, therefore it must not be true, therefore it is not true. The Science is Settled. Only Deniers are interested in human variation. You might as well ask if the Earth is Round! Why do people of East African keep winning marathons? Do not ask questions that should not be asked! The answer is hard work and culture and shut up!! The Science is settled!

Posted by: Race is a Social Construct! at April 21, 2014 10:30 AM (ZPrif)

174 That, too, polynikes. We didn't truly exist until our Nation was Constituted. There are three or four guys who I've seen bandied about as the real first President. It's always a timeline/interpretation thing. Good for tourism and obscure statues.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:31 AM (ZshNr)

175 165 let's not forget, when Mrs Mezvinsky was born, the Clintons are reputed to have hired a nanny but put her on the payroll as a member of the household security staff, if I recall the details right. --- At least the nanny was legally documented somehow.

Posted by: Zoe Baird andJudge Kimba Wood at April 21, 2014 10:31 AM (APuJ7)

176 John Hancock?

Posted by: mrp at April 21, 2014 10:31 AM (JBggj)

177 Now we are on to Cannon Pr0n.  And Sean Bannion seems to be back in battery.  Obviously a good recoil set up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:31 AM (DlqJm)

178 Interesting. Why, just yesterday I took a look at the Norwich U.' website. Coincidence?  Posted by: mrp at April 21, 2014 02:29 PM (JBggj)

No, I did not pay for my abuse.  I was paid for my abuse.

Providence College '85.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:31 AM (6T8Ay)

179 The United States of America did not exist until the Constituition was ratified thus the United in the title. Posted by: polynikes Then by what name did the Founding Fathers (and general populace) refer to this country between 1776 and 1789? http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html "The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776. The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen United States of America, When in the Course of human events..."

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:31 AM (mizYg)

180 The answer is hard work and culture and shut up!! The Science is settled! Posted by: Race is a Social Construct! at April 21, 2014 02:30 PM (ZPrif) *eyebrow arch* Hard work?
Culture? Are you saying that certain cultures are better that others? Racist.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 10:31 AM (mf5HN)

181 oh, and this line from the article, where Mrs Mezvinsky says "I took a job at NYU to fund my doctoral studies"... doesn't her family have like a ton of money?

let's not forget, when Mrs Mezvinsky was born, the Clintons are reputed to have hired a nanny but put her on the payroll as a member of the household security staff, if I recall the details right.

You know how proggs all say shit like "people only get rich by stealing from others"?  It's cause that's how progg heros get rich.

Posted by: HR at April 21, 2014 10:32 AM (ZKzrr)

182 My topic today is "Making It On Your Own" with my guests Caroline Kennedy, Chelsea Clinton, Meghan McCain, and Tori Spelling ... Posted by: Ronan Farrow at April 21, 2014 02:28 PM (aTXUx) Smite posts from (aTXUx) I laughed out loud.

Posted by: toby928© at April 21, 2014 10:32 AM (QupBk)

183 The Clinton's would never use emotional props for political purposes.

Posted by: Buddy at April 21, 2014 10:32 AM (fWAjv)

184 It was on the first airing, but got cut on subsequent airings.

Note, however, that the previous Top 10 answer was "The Gore daughters', which was allowed to stay because they were referred to as hot.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 02:29 PM (APuJ7)



And Garth's mom!



"Hey man!  That's my mother!!!"



Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:32 AM (GQ8sn)

185 To this day, I can't believe without all dad's contacts and stroke, that Al Gore, III hasn't been hired in NASCAR, Formula 1, or IndyCar.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 21, 2014 10:32 AM (HxSXm)

186 Ummm Chelsea Clinton and a really good piece should never be typed together in a post

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 21, 2014 10:33 AM (8iy5P)

187 You know the other strange thing? Why did that secret service guy always want to watch?

Posted by: The SAE's At Sanford at April 21, 2014 10:33 AM (0FSuD)

188 Now we are on to Cannon Pr0n. And Sean Bannion seems to be back in battery. Obviously a good recoil set up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 02:31 PM (DlqJm)



Load PENIS!



Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:33 AM (GQ8sn)

189 173 If we ever find that East Africans have a higher rate of certain genes that increase long distance running ability then the world as we know it will collapse! Everyone is exactly the same! Do not search for the Forbidden Knowledge that has been Forbidden!! It should not be true, therefore it must not be true, therefore it is not true. The Science is Settled. Only Deniers are interested in human variation. You might as well ask if the Earth is Round! Why do people of East African keep winning marathons? Do not ask questions that should not be asked! The answer is hard work and culture and shut up!! The Science is settled! --- *shrug* I look at it as a case of environment rather than nature. Look at the Dominican Republic... I don't think there's anything genetic that allows them to produce so many great baseball players but, instead, Dominican kids flock to baseball because it holds a chance of success far beyond anything else they could aspire to.

Posted by: Zoe Baird andJudge Kimba Wood at April 21, 2014 10:34 AM (APuJ7)

190 Is Al Gore's kid out of jail yet?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 21, 2014 10:34 AM (aDwsi)

191 RIASC, you really think a 2% difference in performance between Flanagan and the African woman who beat her can only be explained by genetics? No way she could have trained better? Look, some "races" are tall, like the Serb-Croats, some are short, like third-graders, but you've obviously got a larger point to make, make it, get banned, carry on.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:34 AM (ZshNr)

192 Chelsea Clinton and a really good piece should never be typed together in a post  Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 21, 2014 02:33 PM (8iy5P)

C'mon now.  Self-important, ugly girls need love too.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:35 AM (6T8Ay)

193 190 Is Al Gore's kid out of jail yet? --- I hope so... I want to hire someone capable of going 120+ MPH in a Prius.

Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at April 21, 2014 10:35 AM (APuJ7)

194 Horde, talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic. Wayne's World is the best SNL spin off movie.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 10:35 AM (mf5HN)

195 Zombie, if declaring oneself a Nation was the same as Being a Nation, all these Revolutions would be so much quicker and cleaner. Sadly, it's not so.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:35 AM (ZshNr)

196 192 Chelsea Clinton and a really good piece should never be typed together in a post Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 21, 2014 02:33 PM (8iy5P) C'mon now. Self-important, ugly girls need love too. --- They just gotta pay for it.

Posted by: Glenn Quagmire at April 21, 2014 10:35 AM (APuJ7)

197 And yet, when she speaks I can't help but notice that it would be more exiting listening to a moth.

Posted by: Up With People at April 21, 2014 10:35 AM (pf+hU)

198
You know how proggs all say shit like "people only get rich by stealing from others"? It's cause that's how progg heros get rich.
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Projection. If the left is decrying a non-leftwing individual or group for something they are either doing it or wishing they were doing it.

And again, there is an amazing opportunity for the Republicans to run hard against the dominant crony socialist paradigm governing DC...but notice they will not...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 21, 2014 10:36 AM (78TbK)

199 194 Horde, talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic. Wayne's World is the best SNL spin off movie. --- Disagree, I'd go with the original Blues Brothers film.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:36 AM (APuJ7)

200 Chelsea Clinton/Lena Dunham 2016

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:36 AM (DlqJm)

201 They just gotta pay for it. Posted by: Glenn Quagmire at April 21, 2014 02:35 PM (APuJ7)


Giggity.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:36 AM (6T8Ay)

202 I was struck by this watching Downton Abbey recently. Though beautifully made, it is one long love letter to aristocratic rule by our learned and noble betters. No wonder it's become such a favorite amongst the PBS crowd.

Posted by: AtlasMugged at April 21, 2014 10:36 AM (6MwxO)

203 Wayne's World is the best SNL spin off movie. Tallest midget. Sorry Alex.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 10:36 AM (GXZgZ)

204

But the United States existed for 13 years between 1776 and 1789!
Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:21 PM (mizYg)

 

The United States of Americadid not exist until the Constituition was ratified thus the United in the title.

Posted by: polynikes at April 21, 2014 02:27 PM (m2CN7)

 

 

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Up until the Constitution was signed, the  various colonies were a  confederacy  under the Continental  Congress.  So I guess  one could say that Jefferson Davis wasn't the first president of the Confederacy.  The election of George Washington was a whole different animal. 

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2014 10:36 AM (cu9Nx)

205 I'm sure the Dominicans could be world class marathon runners if they wanted! Fast Twitch and Slow Twitch muscle fibers are a neocon lie!!

Posted by: Race is a Social Construct! at April 21, 2014 10:36 AM (ZPrif)

206 200 Chelsea Clinton/Lena Dunham 2016 --- FUPA 2016?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:36 AM (APuJ7)

207 I declare  myself Kate Upton's husband but until I get that marriage certificate its just my declaration. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 21, 2014 10:36 AM (m2CN7)

208 Picture of Chelsea: Okay, she's fairly cute.

Story about Chelsea: vomitrocious.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 21, 2014 10:37 AM (+1Uyl)

209 some are short, like third-graders
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You be amazed how much money you save with the smaller cages.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 21, 2014 10:37 AM (78TbK)

210 Wayne's World is the best SNL spin off movie. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 02:35 PM (mf5HN) Did you not see 'Stuart Saves His Family?!?'

Posted by: Buddy at April 21, 2014 10:38 AM (fWAjv)

211 I hope so... I want to hire someone capable of going 120+ MPH in a Prius. Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at April 21, 2014 02:35 PM (APuJ7) Yeah, the most interesting thing about Gore's kid getting busted going 120mph in a Prius is that a Prius can go over 70mph in circumstances other than being dropped from a plane. Who knew!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 10:38 AM (mf5HN)

212 Did you not see 'Stuart Saves His Family?!?' --- No, we didn't.

Posted by: The Entire US Population at April 21, 2014 10:39 AM (APuJ7)

213 Princess LEAIA was in Bles Brothers..

Posted by: elevenwing plover at April 21, 2014 10:39 AM (GXZgZ)

214 195 Zombie, if declaring oneself a Nation was the same as Being a Nation, all these Revolutions would be so much quicker and cleaner. Sadly, it's not so. Posted by: Lincolntf So, if we were not an independent nation between 1776 and 1789, then what were we? Breakaway colonies with delusions of grandeur? Why celebrate July 4 as the date of our nation's founding? Why not March 4 (1789)?

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:39 AM (mizYg)

215 I can't believe that the network that gave a show to Ronan Farrow can't find a nice demand-free hosting gig for Chelsea Clinton.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2014 10:39 AM (8ZskC)

216 Yeah, the most interesting thing about Gore's kid getting busted going 120mph in a Prius is that a Prius can go over 70mph in circumstances other than being dropped from a plane.


It still has a gasoline engine in it.  Stupid fucking ecotards don't realize that when you are driving on the highway, it's all gas and not battery.


Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:39 AM (GQ8sn)

217 I declare myself Kate Upton's husband but until I get that marriage certificate its just my declaration.
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How dare they h8ters deny you marrying the person you love! Just because Upton doesn't want you to be married to her shouldn't mean she can deny you your human right to marry who you want!

Posted by: Why doesn't it work like this actually? at April 21, 2014 10:39 AM (78TbK)

218 The Marchese has been summoned.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 21, 2014 10:39 AM (thLL8)

219 Dr. Lecter, #139: "I've found that using a cattle prod can cause an involuntary reaction like the one you'd want." Stick a cattle prod up their ass and you can get a horse to deal cards. [Chuckles.] Simple matter of voltage.

Posted by: CAPT Frank Ramsay at April 21, 2014 10:40 AM (nXMCz)

220 Carrie Fisher as the jilted lover who is also can fire a bazooka.  Win.

120mph in a Prius?  Did GoreThree strap some JATO to it?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:40 AM (DlqJm)

221 At least Amy Carter had the decency to put on a hijab and go away.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 21, 2014 10:40 AM (CMkNk)

222 Wayne's World is the best SNL spin off movie. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 02:35 PM (mf5HN) No, no. Not even close. http://tinyurl.com/2nr7jh

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2014 10:40 AM (8ZskC)

223 We were fighting a Revolution. If the name of the holiday troubles you, call it the National Conception Day. Then picture a really long pregnancy before you get to the birthday.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:41 AM (ZshNr)

224 How dare they h8ters deny you marrying the person you love! Just because Upton doesn't want you to be married to her shouldn't mean she can deny you your human right to marry who you want!

*subscribes to newsletter*

Posted by: HR at April 21, 2014 10:41 AM (ZKzrr)

225 199 I'd go with the original Blues Brothers film. No...doubt...whatsoever.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at April 21, 2014 10:41 AM (wyL+Z)

226 223 We were fighting a Revolution. If the name of the holiday troubles you, call it the National Conception Day. Then picture a really long pregnancy before you get to the birthday. --- And then the water broke and George Washington's big-ass head emerged.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:41 AM (APuJ7)

227 Actually, I met her back in 2008 She's kinda cute in a dullish way I'd pass on her for a hottie until I saw her bank statement

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 21, 2014 10:41 AM (qHQCW)

228 I'm too lazy to Wikipedia the Presidential question, but I'm willing to bet it has to do with the Articles of Confederation, since Washington was President after the Constitution was ratified.

Posted by: Sam Hill at April 21, 2014 10:42 AM (e15Qx)

229 210 Wayne's World is the best SNL spin off movie. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 02:35 PM (mf5HN) Did you not see 'Stuart Saves His Family?!?' That's Pat for the win!

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 10:42 AM (7ObY1)

230 223 We were fighting a Revolution. If the name of the holiday troubles you, call it the National Conception Day. Then picture a really long pregnancy before you get to the birthday. Posted by: Lincolntf Better tell that to the generations of people who have been throwing barbecues and having parades and becoming all patriotic and having federal holidays on July 4: "You've got the wrong day!"

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:42 AM (mizYg)

231 I'd pass on her for a hottie until I saw her bank statement I remember Wayne and Garth calling her "a babe-in-waiting". They're probably still waiting.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 21, 2014 10:42 AM (vd7A8)

232 Will I have to go into the morning thread to pull up the link to Miranda Kerr in black lingerie, bunny ears, and heels?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:43 AM (DlqJm)

233 Oh wow does not hitting Refresh make me look dumb. 

Par for a Monday, at least.

Posted by: Sam Hill at April 21, 2014 10:43 AM (e15Qx)

234 Actually, I have no larger point than to mock the "Race is a Social Construct" dimwits. I think it's funny when people refuse to notice something as blatantly obvious as the fact that people of East African descent keep winning marathons. It's been going on for 30 years now. Not sure why that would be bannable. But most people are ignorant of population genetics and happy to remain so, I guess. I think we should study ethnic groups that have higher % of elite athletes so we can figure out how to give the rest of us more endurance. With endurance athletes we have a fairly small region producing a very high % of elite marathoners. But, hey, Forbidden Knowledge is Forbidden, right?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 10:43 AM (ZPrif)

235 Better tell that to the generations of people who have been throwing barbecues and having parades and becoming all patriotic and having federal holidays on July 4: "You've got the wrong day!" Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:42 PM
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That's what I keep telling people!

Posted by: John Adams at April 21, 2014 10:44 AM (JBggj)

236 We declared independence in 1776, but we became this nation upon ratification of the constitution. 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 21, 2014 10:45 AM (JtwS4)

237 Will the Geico gecko be moderating any debates the royal first perpetual child will be forced to engage in with the riff raff?

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 21, 2014 10:45 AM (EWYBa)

238 234. Ummmm Training for the specific event since you're a little kid usually does the trick

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 21, 2014 10:45 AM (qHQCW)

239 I remember Wayne and Garth calling her "a babe-in-waiting". They're probably still waiting. They didn't call her a Babe-raham Lincoln though. That was only reserved for actual hotties.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 10:45 AM (7ObY1)

240 So, if we were not an independent nation between 1776 and 1789, then what were we? Breakaway colonies with delusions of grandeur? Why celebrate July 4 as the date of our nation's founding? Why not March 4 (1789)?

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:39 PM (mizYg)

 

 

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July 4th is when we declared our independence from England.  That happened  just before or just after the start of the Revlutionary  War.   The colonial  government was a loose confederacy until the US Constitution was finally ratified.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2014 10:45 AM (cu9Nx)

241 Everyone is exactly the same! Do not search for the Forbidden Knowledge that has been Forbidden!! It should not be true, therefore it must not be true, therefore it is not true. The Science is Settled. Another forbidden knowledge: Women's Pro sports teams are competitive with ... Mens High School teams. The USA Women's hockey team, which was awesome, practiced with High School Men's hockey teams to get ready for Sochi. Feminists think this is because of the language or Patriarchy or summat. That's ridiculous. Talk to any female Olympian. They've been supported by family, friends, and coaches since they were toddlers. Don't get me wrong. I think all athletes are awesomely dedicated and there are so many talented female athletes. I envy and admire them. I'm just observing that men and women are different.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 10:46 AM (o4Xc4)

242

Why celebrate July 4 as the date of our nation's founding? Why not March 4 (1789)?

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:39 PM (mizYg)

 

Ever try Grilling in the middle of a March snowstorm in New England? 

Cold Beer tastes better in July!

Posted by: someone has to say it at April 21, 2014 10:46 AM (N7QgG)

243

No amount of money can provide personality and/or intelligence.  If you've seen her on TV you will see that she is awkward, boring, and hard to watch.

 

While her parents can play a room of people like pros, Chelsea dearheart does not have that talent.

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 10:46 AM (G+Wff)

244 That's Pat for the win! Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 02:42 PM (7ObY1) That's Pat didn't star a sitting US Congressman though.

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 10:46 AM (fWAjv)

245 remember "Wayne" switched teams. NTTAWWT

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 10:46 AM (zOTsN)

246 So the Clinton Family wants their heir apparent to succeed, the Bush Family want's their heir apparent so who does Obama want to carry on his legacy?

Posted by: Williams the Youngest at April 21, 2014 10:46 AM (FMsBj)

247 remember "Wayne" switched teams. NTTAWWT

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 02:46 PM (zOTsN)



Did he?

Posted by: EC at April 21, 2014 10:46 AM (GQ8sn)

248 We declared independence in 1776, but we became this nation upon ratification of the constitution.
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I disagree.  France has been a nation for a long time.  Lots of kings and lots of constitutions.  I vote for 1776.

Posted by: mrp at April 21, 2014 10:47 AM (JBggj)

249 While her parents can play a room of people like pros, Chelsea dearheart does not have that talent. --- That's not to say they haven't tried to give her a charisma transplant.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:47 AM (APuJ7)

250 Chicoms suck, but at least they aren't letting backwards, scientifically ignorant squeamishness prevent them from looking into human genetics. It'll probably Chinese scientists that unlock a lot of human traits because western scientists are afraid to look for fear of discovering some racial or ethnic differences. Chinese don't care. They'll say, correctly, hey let's look at all these Kenyan champion runners to see if there are genetic differences that might help explain some of the variation in performance. Crazy idea, I know.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 10:47 AM (ZPrif)

251 238 234. Ummmm Training for the specific event since you're a little kid usually does the trick Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 21, 2014 02:45 PM (qHQCW) That and growing up at a relatively high altitude, thus developing fairly awesome lung capacity. Without this, they're probably as good as any other marathoner. With it, they last longer. Race need not enter the question.

Posted by: joncelli at April 21, 2014 10:47 AM (RD7QR)

252 No one else click on this, save your sanity.  This is to repay Zombie for that MLP post on a certain ONT. 

http://tinyurl.com/kntmcqu

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:47 AM (DlqJm)

253 246 So the Clinton Family wants their heir apparent to succeed, the Bush Family want's their heir apparent so who does Obama want to carry on his legacy? Sharia and Malaria 2028!

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 10:47 AM (7ObY1)

254 who does Obama want to carry on his legacy? --- The fruit of Reggie's loins?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:47 AM (APuJ7)

255 So you're all specific about the appointees by the Constitutional Congress of 1781-1782 at first, but then it's all about picnics on the wrong day. We can discuss one or the other, probably not both. Are you on the Big John Hanson payroll?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:48 AM (ZshNr)

256 Speaking of editing a Wiki. Check this wiki for Chelsea's father in law. http://tinyurl.com/mu8d9d Class act!

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 21, 2014 10:48 AM (0FSuD)

257 I'm just observing that men and women are different.  Posted by: bonhomme at April 21, 2014 02:46 PM (o4Xc4)

In other words, you're observing reality.

Unlike our progtard "friends"

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 10:48 AM (MPIX5)

258 I would bet literally less than 2000 people saw Pat in the theaters.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 10:48 AM (GXZgZ)

259 Joe your problem is sometimes your 30 comment rants don't make any sense and sometimes you come across as an asshole.

Posted by: Peyton Randolph at April 21, 2014 10:48 AM (Aif/5)

260 My people came from the mountains of southern Italy. So how come WE don't have any wind? Ever heard of a Guinea long distance runner? Nope. We gots no wind.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 10:49 AM (7ObY1)

261 At least Amy Carter had the decency to put on a hijab and go away.

NOW you're talkin ugly. She looked like a lab rat.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 21, 2014 10:49 AM (yv+63)

262 Chelsea is also a Producer and "her" movie is debuting at some film festival. Maybe they should look at all of the items on Chelsea's CV and ask: Why so many different occupations with big titles? Why doesn't she stay anywhere long enough to move up?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2014 10:50 AM (pt5t7)

263 The Left loves to be ruled, hence their worship of strongmen like Stalin, Mao, Castro, Chavez, etc.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Snow! AHHHHHHHH! at April 21, 2014 10:50 AM (hLRSq)

264 I would bet literally less than 2000 people saw Pat in the theaters.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 02:48 PM (GXZgZ)

 

Well I didn't  go because I couldn't decide if it was a chick flick or a guy's movie.

Posted by: polynikes at April 21, 2014 10:51 AM (m2CN7)

265 Shitty summer programming just got wayyyyy shittier. The most popular trend sweeping through TV this spring? Michelle Obama.

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 10:51 AM (fWAjv)

266 WZ

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 10:51 AM (fWAjv)

267 July 4th is when we declared our independence from England.

I believe the resolution was adopted on the 2nd.  Maybe we could get a 5-day weekend out of that.

Posted by: HR at April 21, 2014 10:51 AM (ZKzrr)

268 262 Chelsea is also a Producer and "her" movie is debuting at some film festival. Maybe they should look at all of the items on Chelsea's CV and ask: Why so many different occupations with big titles? Why doesn't she stay anywhere long enough to move up? --- Probably the same reason one of the good "friends" of the former big boss at my office moved around so much... It's hard to make a paper trail to fire someone for incompetence if you keep shuffling them around.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:51 AM (APuJ7)

269 With endurance athletes we have a fairly small region producing a very high % of elite marathoners. But, hey, Forbidden Knowledge is Forbidden, right? Posted by: Costanza Defense Before PC rules totally took over the biological sciences, they did study this "anomaly" and found a minor DNA variant in Ethiopians and north Kenyans that allowed for more oxygen to be carried in the blood for extended periods (forgot the exact details), enabling better endurance performance. It is not racism to point this out, it's just fact. It's not like athletes from other regions don't train as hard or don't try to win as hard: they just don't have the genes. Yes, it is now "taboo" to point out that ethnicities have self-evident variations (visible and not visible), but that doesn't make it untrue. I have a friend who is an Armenian woman who complains constantly that she has inherited from her family, as has every Armenian girl she's even known, too much body hair for her liking, especially on the upper lip and legs. She's constantly getting electrolysis and waxing. As do all her Armenian friends. It's just genetics. It doesn't have any moral significance.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 10:52 AM (mizYg)

270 I don't see 30 comments by a guy named "Joe." Where's luaP noR to do a thread recap when we need one?

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 10:52 AM (7ObY1)

271 Very true, VH.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:52 AM (ZshNr)

272 Can one really blame Chelsea for her constant failure? Isn't it fairly obvious that she's never been able to keep a job because her parents broke her? I am honestly impressed that she's not incarcerated right now.

Posted by: Oschisms at April 21, 2014 10:52 AM (y9dfJ)

273 VH was supposed to be HR.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:52 AM (ZshNr)

274 Isn't it fairly obvious that she's never been able to keep a job because her parents broke her? I am honestly impressed that she's not incarcerated right now. --- Her parents gave her better handlers than the Diffrent Strokes kids got.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 10:53 AM (APuJ7)

275 >>The most popular trend sweeping through TV this spring? Michelle Obama. Ugh. Did you see that Michelle was blowing kisses to the little people while attending Easter service? yes, she was blowing kisses from the freakin' pew. No class.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2014 10:53 AM (pt5t7)

276 I was having a conversation with a loved one yesterday wherein he stated, "I really like Hillary Clinton.  I would love to see her as President.  She's so likable, smart and really connects to people."

After I picked my jaw up off the floor, I asked, "Name me one thing she's accomplished that makes her suitable to hold the office of the Presidency.  Just one thing."  He could not and the conversation ended.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 21, 2014 10:53 AM (vg8iE)

277 Mooch forces herself on the public as some sort of quasi-celebrity because she spends all her time hanging around actual celebrities with actual accomplishments AND SHE IS JEALOUS AS HELL ABOUT IT.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 10:53 AM (7ObY1)

278 42 Last 20 years of Boston Marathon winners. 1 South Korean 3 Ethiopians 15 Kenyans and finally 1 good ol 'Murican (born in Eritrea) Posted by: Race is a Social Construct! at April 21, 2014 02:03 PM (ZPrif) Someone please take his stick away. The horse has been dead for hours and he's still hitting it.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 21, 2014 10:54 AM (z/Ubi)

279 I would bet literally less than 2000 people saw Pat in the theaters. Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 02:48 PM (GXZgZ) The film opened in only three cities theaters. Its total gross was just $60,822, although this figure has been disputed by cinema historian Greg Gaul of Princeton University. -wiki

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 10:54 AM (fWAjv)

280 260 My people came from the mountains of southern Italy. So how come WE don't have any wind? Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 02:49 PM (7ObY1) How long can you run before you're shot to death?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 21, 2014 10:54 AM (aTXUx)

281 Utah Pippig and Bill Rodgers are closet Eritreans.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:55 AM (ZshNr)

282 The First Lady is Elena Ceausescu but without the good wardrobe.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 10:55 AM (DlqJm)

283 Thanks for the auto-correct, stupid tablet. "Utah Pippig" sounds like a good character name.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 10:56 AM (ZshNr)

284 . I have a friend who is an Armenian woman who complains constantly that she has inherited from her family, as has every Armenian girl she's even known, too much body hair for her liking, especially on the upper lip and legs. She's constantly getting electrolysis and waxing. As do all her Armenian friends. It's just genetics. It doesn't have any moral significance.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:52 PM (mizYg)

 

 

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Armenian and Greek women buy 90% of the world's supply  of No No's.

 

It's true.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2014 10:56 AM (cu9Nx)

285 In the case of Chelsea it's roughly a third degree of inherited fame being a substitute or actual ability. OK, Bill Clinton was elected president on his own merits. He was a lousy, mendacious president, but he did it on his own. Hillary Clinton was a middling lawyer and bad politician who has been at the highest levels only because she was married to Bill. And Chelsea is famous, now, for being the daughter of Hillary, who is married to Bill. She's the Third Duchess of Hot Springs.

Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at April 21, 2014 10:57 AM (XZWie)

286 The film opened in only three cities theaters. Its total gross was just $60,822, although this figure has been disputed by cinema historian Greg Gaul of Princeton University. -wiki RWC -- do you know if that number is what the movie-goers paid or what the theaters had to pay the studios to get the movies? Cause that would be about 6000 people in three cities. That's alot for Pat.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 10:57 AM (GXZgZ)

287 Genetic Basis for Muscle Endurance in Animal Study http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/News_Releases/2011/07/animal-study/ PHILADELPHIA — Researchers at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania have identified a gene for endurance, or more precisely, a negative regulator of it. Not having the gene relates to greater endurance in the knockout mice that were studied. The investigators also showed that the gene is linked to Olympic-level athletes in endurance sports such as swimming compared to athletes in sprint sports such as the 100-meter dash. The study appears online this week in the Journal of Clinical Investigation. The work has implications for improving muscle performance in disease states including metabolic disorders, obesity, and aging.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 10:57 AM (ZPrif)

288

It is strange living through these times and watching liberals twist about and wrestle with their hypocrisy.

Apparently someone at Newsmax magazine made some inappropriate comment regarding Chelsea's preganancy and had to apologize.  I don't care enough to look it up but if he was being a douche he should apologize.  Anyways, liberals are OUTRAGED that this bagger would say that  about little Chelsea Princess Pea-Pot.

Here is where it gets weird for me, if Chelsea were to abort her baby it would be thought of as tissue, clump of cells at 16 weeks.  Chelsea's decided to actually give birth to her baby so now it is a person with the right to life and is actually being called a baby not a clumb of cells.  I wish someone would ask Ms. Hillary big Pro-Choice defender at exactly what point she considered this child as a child and not a zygote.

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 10:58 AM (G+Wff)

289 Ugh. Did you see that Michelle was blowing kisses to the little people while attending Easter service? yes, she was blowing kisses from the freakin' pew. No class. Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2014 02:53 PM (pt5t7) Just did. It's still better than when Choo Choo dropped trou and made his ass sing 'Were you there' during the service.

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 10:59 AM (fWAjv)

290 The genetics of endurance will no doubt be quite complicated with hundreds of genes having both a positive and negative effect. And these genes, no doubt, will show variation across populations.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 10:59 AM (ZPrif)

291 I've known a few Pediatric Cardiologists in my career. Some of my best friends are Pediatric Cardiologists. And Chelsea, you are no Pediatric Cardiologist. (This is a subject I know a little about)

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 21, 2014 10:59 AM (MKpBT)

292 It's all Bullshit™.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 21, 2014 10:59 AM (+6MPX)

293 Point of order- Any reference to a Clinton should include the title "Clinton Crime Family".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 21, 2014 10:59 AM (SY2Kh)

294 Speaking of box office flops, looks like the digital Johnny Depp movie is in the Recycle bin with Jar-Jar.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 11:00 AM (DlqJm)

295

"Maybe they should look at all of the items on Chelsea's CV and ask: Why so many different occupations with big titles? Why doesn't she stay anywhere long enough to move up?"

 

 

They're trying to find her something to "do" that will not burst into flames upon contact with her.  It is taking much longer than previously expected.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Warmth of Spring Grow your Rage at the Outrage Outlet at April 21, 2014 11:00 AM (hLRSq)

296 So, Mooch is going to appear on "Jessie." Jessie is a tween show loaded with offensive stereotypes, which my witty tween nephew laid out for me one day recently: Jessie herself is a stereotypical flyover country "hick" from Kettlecorn, Arkansas (yuk, yuk.) There's an Indian kid (Mumbai, not Teepee) who speaks with a stereotypical "Indian" accent and wears stereotypical "Indian" clothes even though the actor himself has no accent at all. Then you have the "sassy" black girl, with the stereotypical sassy black girl head-sway thing, and a couple of nerdy stereotypical white kids for good measure. The whole show is Hollyweird's warped take on ethnicity. And hicks.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 11:00 AM (7ObY1)

297 260 My people came from the mountains of southern Italy. So how come WE don't have any wind? Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 02:49 PM (7ObY1) You can run, but you'll just die tired

Posted by: Mt Vesuvius at April 21, 2014 11:00 AM (aTXUx)

298 Here is where it gets weird for me, if Chelsea were to abort her baby it would be thought of as tissue, clump of cells at 16 weeks. Chelsea's decided to actually give birth to her baby so now it is a person with the right to life and is actually being called a baby not a clumb of cells. I wish someone would ask Ms. Hillary big Pro-Choice defender at exactly what point she considered this child as a child and not a zygote.

Yup.


Posted by: HR at April 21, 2014 11:01 AM (ZKzrr)

299 294 Speaking of box office flops, looks like the digital Johnny Depp movie is in the Recycle bin with Jar-Jar. --- They reached and breached the sell-by date on Depp's appeal. You'd think that the colossal failure that was Lone Ranger would have told them "This may not be a great idea."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 11:01 AM (APuJ7)

300 Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 02:52 PM (mizYg)

Of course. But it is culture and, especially in the case of the East Africans, location that selects the thousands of variants.

If that gene had shown up in Norwegians, it probably wouldn't have done much.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2014 11:01 AM (QFxY5)

301 "Leftism is a never-ending, well-organized campaign to gain and retain power." -- Shih Tzu Book of Soothsayerisms and Other Notes of Interest

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 21, 2014 11:02 AM (+6MPX)

302 Genes effect athletic ability and size? Who knew? Not the scores of father-son combos in all major sports while some towns have never produced a single D1 athlete. Genes matter, but the African Runner as otherworldly freak, thus different than other humans, thus other than human, is the long way a lot of shitbags go to get to their point. And their point walkways involves a reference to simians. It's as old as the Rift Valley.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 11:02 AM (ZshNr)

303 RWC -- do you know if that number is what the movie-goers paid or what the theaters had to pay the studios to get the movies? Cause that would be about 6000 people in three cities. That's alot for Pat. Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 02:57 PM (GXZgZ) What the movie goers paid. (cost 10 million to make it.)

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 11:03 AM (fWAjv)

304 Of course walkways should be always.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 11:03 AM (ZshNr)

305 at least they aren't letting backwards, scientifically ignorant squeamishness prevent them from looking into human genetics. I remember one of the guys who designed the DNA model made a comment about races having variation, and he was forced to apologize profusely. Human beings are, regardless of race, stupid. Eugenics movements are bad because they kill people. Somewhere along the line we decided the topic of race was the problem, not all the murder and brutality of the eugenecist movements. And somehow communism can be studied in-depth.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 21, 2014 11:04 AM (hrAg/)

306 How come Bristol Palin was on Dancing With the Stars!! SHE DIDN'T EARN IT !!!!!

Posted by: Lefties with No Sense of Irony at April 21, 2014 11:04 AM (aTXUx)

307 You'd think that the colossal failure that was Lone Ranger would have told them "This may not be a great idea." Ohhh...I thought she *was* talking about Lone Ranger. Two stinkers in a row for Depp ouch.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 11:04 AM (GXZgZ)

308 I hate to say it, but some of the posts are making me wonder if I have wandered into a meeting of the National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 11:04 AM (DlqJm)

309 We are in early days with a few genes located here and there that have proven impacts. http://www.cavemanpower.com/ blog/genetics-what-seperates-endurance-athletes-from-sprinters/ According to Professor Kathryn North from the University of Sydney, a gene variation commonly found in endurance athletes most likely evolved as humans moved out of warm, food-rich environments to colder and harsher conditions, new research shows. The variant form of the gene ACTN3, commonly found in endurance athletes, is also associated with more efficient muscle metabolism. Authors conclude that ACTN3, the original “sprinters” gene, has evolved over millions of years to equip humans to cope with changing and more hostile environments. “There is a fascinating link between factors that influence survival in ancient humans and the factors that contribute to athletic abilities in modern man,” said Professor North. Her discovery was that variations of the gene provided an important guide to whether an elite athlete has ability to be a power sprinter or an endurance performer. .. To answer the question as to why the variation occurred they looked at DNA samples from 96 individuals from around the world. “Most Africans have alpha-actinin-3, it’s the normal ancestral state. But as you move into European and Asian populations there is a marked increase in the number of people without the protein. In some Asian populations that number reaches 40 per cent, or even higher in some isolated populations,” she said.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 11:04 AM (ZPrif)

310 is the long way a lot of shitbags go to get to their point.

And other shitbags (like SCOAMF fave Jay-Z) use to get to their opposite and yet equally shitty point.

Posted by: HR at April 21, 2014 11:04 AM (ZKzrr)

311 OK, Bill Clinton was elected president on his own merits. He was a lousy, mendacious president, but he did it on his own.
======
No.  No. No.

Hillary gets credit for Bill's successful run for the presidency.  Without her focused, unrelenting ambition to put Slick in the White House,  he would have wound up managing a trailer park.

Posted by: mrp at April 21, 2014 11:04 AM (JBggj)

312 Actually, I could do without Bristol Palin too. Let's be fair and balanced. BP doesn't got what her mom's got.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 11:05 AM (7ObY1)

313 The film opened in only three cities theaters. Its total gross was just $60,822 But strong popcorn sales could have put it in the black.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2014 11:05 AM (8ZskC)

314 Are you on the Big John Hanson payroll? Posted by: Lincolntf Do not mock the John Hanson lobby! We are a shadowy but powerful group.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 11:06 AM (mizYg)

315 Oh God, I just listened to Phil Collin's Greatest Hits.  I think I may be losing it.

Posted by: C_int_n - _ore '9_ at April 21, 2014 11:06 AM (yhJhK)

316 eleven, why do you think I said digital and Recycle Bin.  This movie may transcend Waterworld as the definition of flop.  $100 million to make, first weekend take a paltry $11 million.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 11:06 AM (DlqJm)

317 Half of my people came from the craggy hills of Ireland.  This gives us a firm handle on booze, melodrama, and crude jokes.  The other half of my people come the black forests of Germany.  This just means we were damp and miserable most of the time.

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 11:06 AM (G+Wff)

318 Someone mentioned Amy Carter. And someone else mentioned the other day that this is the 35th anniversary of her father's epic struggle with the "killer rabbit".

Which did get me to reflecting sourly that, while Carter was a dreadfully bad President, there was on his watch none of the glitz and vulgar luxury indulgence and shameless mooching at public expense that we see now.

When the infamous rabbit attack occurred, Carter was on vacation. Which for him meant going to the family farm in Plains and going fishing on a swamp pond. Not exactly like the Obamas vacationing in Kailua in a beachside mansion that rents for ten thousand dollars a day.

Carter wasn't knocking back huge amounts of top shelf booze, lobster, and $200/lb Wagyu steaks every night. He wasn't jetting off with Rosalynn to Marbella and Gstaad.

Carter told Americans they had to save energy and he famously turned down the thermostat in the Oval Office and wore sweaters.

Whereas Obama tells Americans we must save energy, and pay far more for what energy we do use as prices "necessarily skyrocket" thanks to his policies. While Obama himself dials UP the thermostat in the Oval Office to where Axelrod says "you could grow orchids in there".

All in all, I'd take Carter back, thanks.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2014 11:06 AM (noWW6)

319 Let's be fair and balanced. Fuck that. This is war.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 21, 2014 11:07 AM (+6MPX)

320 PHIL COLLINS RUINED GENESIS!!!!!! -every commenter on every Prog Rock site, ever

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 11:07 AM (7ObY1)

321 308 I hate to say it, but some of the posts are making me wonder if I have wandered into a meeting of the National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 03:04 PM (DlqJm) Why? Did Himmler make his ass singDeutschland erwache?

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 11:07 AM (fWAjv)

322 Sen. Jim Inhofe said, “You’ve got a bunch of people there trying to take the law into their own hands and they shouldn’t be doing that. And the Bureau of Land Management is not government-owned, it’s publicly owned. There’s a big difference there. I blame both sides.” http://tinyurl.com/mqgmxcw Ha! With Republican Senator's like this, who needs enemies?

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 21, 2014 11:08 AM (thLL8)

323 I smell a nood that is about to meet a fork..

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 21, 2014 11:08 AM (+6MPX)

324 Nobody is talking about anybody or any group being other than human. Human variation is interesting. And not just interesting, but hugely important for human health. We should study elite athletes to figure out how we can use the genes identified to treat diseases and conditions like aging, cancer, muscle wasting, etc, etc When athletic success of one human group stands out that is a strong indication that there are underling genetic factors -- which makes it a more promising place to start looking. https://www.23andme.com/gen101/variation/speed/ Scientists have discovered a variation in a gene that seems to affect whether a person will make it to the top of their game, at least in sports like sprinting and weightlifting that require quick bursts of powerful force. The gene is called ACTN3, but its role in athletic performance has led some to dub it the "gene for speed." The ACTN3 gene encodes instructions for making a specific muscle protein. Researchers have found that some people have a non-working version of the gene that prevents it from making the muscle protein. More than a billion people worldwide have two copies of this variation in their DNA, causing their muscle cells to completely lack the protein. Lacking the ACTN3 protein does not seem to have any harmful health effects, but there does seem to be an effect on sports performance. Several studies have found that Olympic-level power athletes always have at least one working copy of the ACTN3 gene. After studying hundreds of athletes, scientists came to the conclusion that it is probably impossible for someone who lacks the ACTN3 protein to reach the top levels of performance in power sports. They were soon proven wrong. While looking for other genes that might determine athletic ability, a Spanish scientist hit upon an exception to the rule: a champion long jumper who has two non-working copies of ACTN3. The long jumper has a history of great achievement. He competed at the international level at the age of 16, and went on to compete in several European and World championships. He has also participated in two Olympic games. The fact that this long jumper is the first and so far only Olympic power athlete to be found who lacks the "gene for speed" is evidence for how important this gene is in determining this type of athletic ability. But his success is a testament to the fact that genes are not destiny.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 11:08 AM (ZPrif)

325 316 eleven, why do you think I said digital and Recycle Bin. This movie may transcend Waterworld as the definition of flop. $100 million to make, first weekend take a paltry $11 million. --- Cleopatra is pretty much THE defining flop. It was cut from the original plan of two separate movies, Cleopatra And Ceasar and Cleopatra And Antony, into one movie to focus on the Taylor-Burton affair, it cost about $60m in 1960s dollars, it killed the "swords and sandals" epics, and caused Fox to sell off its studio backlot that became Century City, Los Angeles.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 11:09 AM (APuJ7)

326 PHIL COLLINS RUINED GENESIS!!!!!! --- Give me Genesis!

Posted by: Khan Noonien Singh at April 21, 2014 11:09 AM (APuJ7)

327 If that gene had shown up in Norwegians, it probably wouldn't have done much. Hey! Has anyone noted the DNA differences in Scandis that make them such awesome cross country skiers? Coincidence? I think not. Genetics baby!

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 11:10 AM (oMKp3)

328 I don't know why everyone is talking up Hillary 2016.  She died of a brain aneurysm on March 11, 2015.  Oh wait.  Damnit.  Forget I said any of this.

Posted by: Ted, Time Traveller at April 21, 2014 11:11 AM (yhJhK)

329 Obligatory: And now James May's lap will be just like a prog rock song.  It will last 42 minutes and be utterly pointless.

Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at April 21, 2014 11:11 AM (JtwS4)

330 PHIL COLLINS RUINED GENESIS!!!!!! I just saw the Phil Collins movie vehicle Buster on TV last night. Yeah...he ruined that too.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 11:11 AM (GXZgZ)

331 Depp plays one role mostly.  They apply a whole bunch of make-up and strange clothes and he basically plays the same guy.  I like when he plays a character such as in Donnie Brasco or Gilbert Grape where he actually has to act and not just be weird.

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 11:12 AM (G+Wff)

332 eleven, why do you think I said digital and Recycle Bin. This movie may transcend Waterworld as the definition of flop. $100 million to make, first weekend take a paltry $11 million.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 03:06 PM (DlqJm)

 

 

-------------------------------------------

 

 

Wasn't that also the roundabout number for the cost of "Noah"?  Seems as though Hollywood is losing some big bucks lately.

 

 

Good.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2014 11:12 AM (cu9Nx)

333 328 I don't know why everyone is talking up Hillary 2016. She died of a brain aneurysm on March 11, 2015. Oh wait. Damnit. Forget I said any of this. --- Could have been worse. One guy told me that I'd die of autoerotic asphyxiation.

Posted by: William Fox Mulder at April 21, 2014 11:12 AM (APuJ7)

334 Obviously genes are what matter, we know inheritance occurs. When someone comes in with both barrels blazing, screaming about how science and government are lying to us about genetic differences, you should smell Stormfront from a mile away. Same playbook for decades, not hard to spot.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 11:12 AM (ZshNr)

335 Blackhawks have tied St. Louis. 2-2

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 11:14 AM (oMKp3)

336 We are just scratching the surface. More research is needed. But research is stifled cause of squeamish idiocy and people demanding that we not look in the Forbidden Closet of Knowledge. Who cares if certain populations turn out to have certain genes that make them taller or stronger or faster on average? I just want to know what those genes are so I can have them injected into me and my children. Bringing up the nazi bogeyman is retarded. The point is knowledge so we can improve lives. And clinging to this backwards ideas of ignoring genetic variation across human population is slowing progress and killing people. http://www.geneffect.com/actn3/en/actn3gene.html Scientists have found a variant, known as R577X, in the ACTN3 gene, that alters the way the body reads the ACTN3 gene instruction. As everyone has two copies of the ACTN3 gene, there is 3 different combinations or Sports Performance Types. XX - TYPE : You have the R577X variant present in both copies of your ACTN3 gene. Studies of elite level athletes from the Australian Institute of Sport (AIS) show, that this combination is associated with a natural predisposition to endurance events. RR - TYPE : You do not have the R577X variant present in either copy of your ACTN3 gene. The absence of the R577X variant from both copies of the ACTN3 gene is associated with a natural predisposition for sprint-power events. RX - TYPE : You have the R577X variant present in one of the two copies of your ACTN3 gene. If you have this combination you may be equally suited for both endurance and sprint-power events.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 11:14 AM (ZPrif)

337 316 eleven, why do you think I said digital and Recycle Bin. This movie may transcend Waterworld as the definition of flop. $100 million to make, first weekend take a paltry $11 million. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 03:06 PM (DlqJm) I think you may have your movies mixed up AP. Cutthroat Island cost 100 with a return of 11. Waterworld (1995) cost $175 million to make and made only $167 million domestically. However it brought in $255 million globally. It was a disaster of a production, but the studio made money in the end.

Posted by: RWC at April 21, 2014 11:14 AM (fWAjv)

338 296 So, Mooch is going to appear on "Jessie." ****** Disney Channel's pretty good about 25% of the time. "Phineas and Ferb" and "Gravity Falls" are great. That said, "Jessie" is banned in my house, and my girls can't get to the remote fast enough when it comes on, 'cause they know how I'll react. Don't get me started on how awesome it is for my children's expectations when an exterminator with the stay-at-home wife and five kids lives in a $2.5 million house in "Good Luck Charlie."

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at April 21, 2014 11:14 AM (vgIRn)

339 Judging by the reviews for "Noah" it may turn out that Russell Crowe ruined Genesis.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 21, 2014 11:14 AM (MKpBT)

340 326 PHIL COLLINS RUINED GENESIS!!!!!! Give me Genesis! Posted by: Khan Noonien Singh at April 21, 2014 03:09 PM (APuJ7) Genesis allowed is not! Is planet forbidden!

Posted by: Backwards Talking Alien in San Francisco Bar at April 21, 2014 11:15 AM (aTXUx)

341 I inherited my father's jeans and $150,000. 

Posted by: Peter Stirpes at April 21, 2014 11:15 AM (yhJhK)

342 Who said anything about Nazi's.? There's more eugenics going on in this country right now than in the entirety of the Reich.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 11:15 AM (ZshNr)

343

When someone comes in with both barrels blazing, screaming about how science and government are lying to us about genetic differences, you should smell Stormfront from a mile away.

 

My ancestry is Irish, English and Scottish.  I have a genetic predisposition to get drunk and to punch crypto-fascists in the face, but I don't want a drink right now.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 21, 2014 11:15 AM (JtwS4)

344 That and growing up at a relatively high altitude, thus developing fairly awesome lung capacity. Without this, they're probably as good as any other marathoner. With it, they last longer. Race need not enter the question. US Olympic Training Center, Colorado Springs, CO, altitude 6,000+ feet. Many of our athletes live there months out of the year for decades while training. With all the athletes growing up in mountainous regions all over the world, why are East Africans uniquely benefitting from this growing up in a mountainous regions thinger?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 11:16 AM (o4Xc4)

345 Of course. But it is culture and, especially in the case of the East Africans, location that selects the thousands of variants. If that gene had shown up in Norwegians, it probably wouldn't have done much. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo Precisely. Gene variants arise all the time, and then culture and geography favor some over the others, and over many many generations those cultural and geographical factors favoring some gene variants spread throughout the population and become a "trait." That's called evolution. It's how all ethnicities (in humans) and types (in animals) arise. Saying that genetic variants can be spread by cultural preferences does not negate the fact that the genetic variants exist.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 11:16 AM (mizYg)

346 I just want to know what those genes are so I can have them injected into me and my children. Bringing up the nazi bogeyman is retarded. The point is knowledge so we can improve lives. And clinging to this backwards ideas of ignoring genetic variation across human population is slowing progress ============== Okay this is starting to make me uncomfortable.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 11:16 AM (oMKp3)

347 340 326 PHIL COLLINS RUINED GENESIS!!!!!! Give me Genesis! Posted by: Khan Noonien Singh at April 21, 2014 03:09 PM (APuJ7) Genesis allowed is not! Is planet forbidden! --- How can you be so deaf with ears that big?!?

Posted by: Bones McCoy at April 21, 2014 11:16 AM (APuJ7)

348 Muldoon @339....awesome!

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 11:17 AM (G+Wff)

349 "If that gene had shown up in Norwegians, it probably wouldn't have done much. " Norwegians dominate XC skiing, a sport with high aerobic and endurance demands. There's one region of Norway with a most of the XC ski champions. It would be interesting to look at their genetics.

Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at April 21, 2014 11:17 AM (XZWie)

350 The Left has always been prone to cult of personality worship. Always and everywhere. They want to be subjects, and are always looking for their next Dear Leader to worship.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 21, 2014 11:17 AM (1Y+hH)

351 Judging by the reviews for "Noah" it may turn out that Russell Crowe ruined Genesis.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 21, 2014 03:14 PM (MKpBT)

 

Nah, the Gnostics did that.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 21, 2014 11:17 AM (DrWcr)

352 Well, I'm a big fan of nepotism. I think that whatever you do in life, you should do with your children in mind. If you build a business, passing it along to your children should be part of the plan. Also, I hate charitable foundations. People should leave their fortunes intact to their children so that they can accomplish big things. Letting a pack of greedy lawyers distort your legacy is criminal. Practically all foundations will take the opposite views of the founder within a few decades of their death.

Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2014 11:18 AM (u2a4R)

353 350 The Left has always been prone to cult of personality worship. Always and everywhere. They want to be subjects, and are always looking for their next Dear Leader to worship. --- Realize Nobel Prize When a leader speaks The reflection lies You don't have To bother me Only you Can set me free!

Posted by: Living Color at April 21, 2014 11:18 AM (APuJ7)

354 Norwegians dominate XC skiing, a sport with high aerobic and endurance demands. There's one region of Norway with a most of the XC ski champions. It would be interesting to look at their genetics. It would be interesting to look at their history.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 11:18 AM (oMKp3)

355
Pregnancy is a wonderful event, sometimes considered a world shattering event, and in the case of Chelsea Clinton, it is revolutionary and will become the standard for all other pregnancies. 

Chelsea Clinton was extremely lucky to have been impregnated by her husband or it could have been his best friend from college who just happened to be in town looking for a little cooch!

Posted by: Maureen Dowd, NYT at April 21, 2014 11:19 AM (nQjHM)

356 Septicemia and Malaria Fuck torquewrench there goes pop all over the monitor. Thanks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 11:19 AM (HVff2)

357 They want to be subjects, and are always looking for their next Dear Leader to worship. Maybe I should have kept my big fat Greek mouth shut.

Posted by: Plato at April 21, 2014 11:19 AM (8ZskC)

358 It is really amazing how incompetent Chelsea is, given her ambition. She had some obvious career tracks: (1) Law school. America's Universal credential is perfect for her. She gets into some school (like, say, Yale with no grades and an alumni mother), gets her little degree and can write her ticket. Yeah, she'd get the job because her last name is "Clinton" but she'd have the veneer of credibility. (2) Housewife. I think her mom just beat it into her that this wasn't an option, but let's face it, it's something that she might have enjoyed, rather than failing at embarrassingly easy tasks like broadcast journalist or corporate board member. (3) Writer. Seriously, they can hire someone to write the actual words, all she needs is a byline. (4) Low-level corporate executive nobody. Why does she always have to have high-profile jobs? Even Michelle Obama, who had (marginal) credentials, was happy for the no-show "diversity" job.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 21, 2014 11:19 AM (T0NGe)

359 Who wants to bet me that Chelsea won't be a sainted "single mother" before too long?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 21, 2014 11:20 AM (V70Uh)

360 When someone comes in with both barrels blazing, screaming about how science and government are lying to us about genetic differences, you should smell Stormfront from a mile away. Same playbook for decades, not hard to spot. Well, I absolutely am not on the Stormfront bandwagon. I just hate the PC declaration that "we're all exactly the same, and any differences are social constructs or someone called you bossy or summat".

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 11:20 AM (o4Xc4)

361 346 I just want to know what those genes are so I can have them injected into me and my children. Bringing up the nazi bogeyman is retarded. The point is knowledge so we can improve lives. And clinging to this backwards ideas of ignoring genetic variation across human population is slowing progress ============== Okay this is starting to make me uncomfortable. Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 03:16 PM (oMKp3) You think you're uncomfortable now? Just wait 4 more hours and 5 threads later when he is still posting the Exact. Same. Thing. Over. And. Over. And. Over.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 21, 2014 11:20 AM (z/Ubi)

362 I think genetics do determine athletic ability in large part, and also longevity. All the exercise and clean living will not totally overcome your DNA. All that being said, to be a world class athlete you have to work for it. You could have the gene and sit on your ass and achieve nothing. Too much emphasis on genetics takes away from the individual achievement of the runner. I hate that. And you cant discount opportunity either. RGIII, the NFL quarterback, grew up in New Orleans. And if it weren't for Katrina he would not have moved to Texas, where he learned to play football where high school football is king. He would be another kid in New Orleans And the last group of people who talked only about genetics were Nazis. You cant ignore effort and your cant ignore opportunity.

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 11:21 AM (zOTsN)

363 Genes matter, but the African Runner as otherworldly freak, thus different than other humans, thus other than human, is the long way a lot of shitbags go to get to their point. And their point walkways involves a reference to simians. It's as old as the Rift Valley. Posted by: Lincolntf Just because ignorant racists toss around a couple of scientific facts does not mean those facts are untrue. East Africans, far from being "non-human," are in fact MORE human that anyone else, because they contain all the genetic variations that the original Homo Sapiens had, and from which all humanity in its variability descends. Fools and racists like to wield and misconstrue actual "facts" for nefarious purposes. Don't let them contaminate the very field of genetics. But shying away from acknowledging genetic exists, you're letting the bad guys (racists on one side and PC anti-science fearmongers on the other) dictate the narrative.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 11:21 AM (mizYg)

364 330 PHIL COLLINS RUINED GENESIS!!!!!! Peter Gabriel for the win.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 21, 2014 11:21 AM (HVff2)

365 I want the gene that prevents hangovers. About 6% of the population have it IIRC.

Posted by: Burt Toste at April 21, 2014 11:22 AM (7QnCd)

366 Well, I absolutely am not on the Stormfront bandwagon. I just hate the PC declaration that "we're all exactly the same, and any differences are social constructs or someone called you bossy or summat". Same here. I see no reason not to study our genetics. I'm just not too crazy about trying to 'improve' anybody with what we find.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 21, 2014 11:22 AM (hrAg/)

367 And those 6% are serious alcoholics.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 21, 2014 11:23 AM (V70Uh)

368 335 Blackhawks have tied St. Louis. 2-2 How is "Blackhawks" not rayciss? And "Blues." I don't see any bruthas on St. Louis's bench. Discuss...

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 11:23 AM (7ObY1)

369 Who said anything about Nazi's.? There's more eugenics going on in this country right now than in the entirety of the Reich. Posted by: Lincolntf is this sarc?

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 11:23 AM (zOTsN)

370 But kicking out the idiot who obviously only wants to use the science to advance his racist agenda makes me feel good. It's in my genes. It's obviously a valid area of discussion/inquiry, but not when the conclusion is foregone, and that guy's conclusion was well beyond that.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 11:23 AM (ZshNr)

371 So, who was the first president of the United States?

Posted by: mrp at April 21, 2014 11:25 AM (JBggj)

372 Meanwhile the Progressive-Socialists of Illinois - "I hate Illinois Nazis" - are proposing borrowing $100 million to better position themselves to secure the Obama Presidential Library.  Once again using other people's money to stroke their egos.

http://tinyurl.com/knal4qq

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 11:25 AM (DlqJm)

373

East Africans, far from being "non-human," are in fact MORE human that anyone else

 

They're all replicants.

Posted by: Tyrell Corporation, More Human than Human at April 21, 2014 11:25 AM (DrWcr)

374 Different populations evolved different traits and behaviors. Northeast asians evolved fairer skin to produce more Vitamin D than southeast asians. That is a trait we can see -- skin color -- but also a hidden trait, the variation in Vitamin D production. When one population shows some outstanding and desireable trait -- long life, great strength, great endurance, great speed, disease resistance, whatever -- then we should study that population. It's head start on figuring out the underlying genetics. And it's better than just looking at anyone with the desireable trait regardless of race/ethnicity because they might have achieved that trait (long-life, speed, strength, fertility, disease resistance, etc) by different means. My understanding is that fair skin in northern europeans and northeast asians evolved separately due to the same selection pressure -- low sunlight. As a result the underlying genetics are different and it would be dumb to include both groups while trying to figure out the genetics of the trait.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 11:25 AM (ZPrif)

375 No, not sarc. I think of Nazi's as the actual German ones. I suppose Stormfront consider themselves the same, I don't. They're a different kind of shitbag that couldn't come up with their own logo.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 11:25 AM (ZshNr)

376 OH crap dagnabbjt anyway! I'm watching a stupid encore presentation of the stupid hockey game! Why do they say this stupid game is NEW when this stupid game is not new, not new at all !?! I blame somebody not myself.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 11:26 AM (oMKp3)

377 Kirk, "Khan, I laugh at your superior intellect."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 11:27 AM (DlqJm)

378 That's gonna be one ugly baby.  Poor thing.

Posted by: Jack Pot at April 21, 2014 11:27 AM (yhJhK)

379 Costanza you are completely ignoring individual effort and opportunity in your analysis. Humans aren't dogs, bred for traits

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 11:28 AM (zOTsN)

380

Ugh. Glad I'm not this guy. (no, no spiders)

http://tinyurl.com/kzkyqrz

Posted by: maddogg at April 21, 2014 11:29 AM (xWW96)

381 @376- I wondered what game you were watching. They play later tonight. I thought for a moment you were watching a Chicago-St.Louis baseball game or something.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 21, 2014 11:29 AM (MKpBT)

382 371 So, who was the first president of the United States? Johann Adam Weishaupt

Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2014 11:29 AM (u2a4R)

383 Nobody is saying anybody is non-human. How is being good at running long-distances "non-human". It's just a trait. Like being able to digest milk. Some can, some can't. Some do it more efficiently than others. All are human. Everybody is human, looking at variation is about the inherently interesting task of understanding the variation and, more importantly to me personally, figuring out ways to improve me and my family and help alleviate sickness, suffering, and unnecessary death. And being bigger, strong, faster, longer-lived, healthier, etc, etc would be pretty awesome, too.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 11:29 AM (ZPrif)

384 I was wondering why a playoff hockey game was on at 2.30 central.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 11:29 AM (GXZgZ)

385 Norwegians dominate XC skiing, a sport with high aerobic and endurance demands. There's one region of Norway with a most of the XC ski champions. It would be interesting to look at their genetics.

Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at April 21, 2014 03:17 PM (XZWie)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

Having seen some of their female  ski-athletes, it's not just genetics I'd like to see.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2014 11:30 AM (cu9Nx)

386 How about a public servant millionaires tax, where an estate of an elected official or civil serviant is taxed at 100% for every dollar over $500,000?  And we'll close those pesky trusts and non-profit loop holes, no deductions for those.  In fact, we might tax those donations at 110%. 

Posted by: Joe at April 21, 2014 11:30 AM (QFnhZ)

387

  Humans aren't dogs, bred for traits

 

"Well, you know the slave owners would take their biggest black bucks and mate them with..."

Posted by: Jimmy the Greek at April 21, 2014 11:30 AM (JtwS4)

388 334 Obviously genes are what matter, we know inheritance occurs. When someone comes in with both barrels blazing, screaming about how science and government are lying to us about genetic differences, you should smell Stormfront from a mile away. Same playbook for decades, not hard to spot. Posted by: Lincolntf ??? I must be naive. I've never really encountered an actual racist in person (or even on the internet), but discussing DNA and genetics shouldn't necessarily be a "marker behavior" indicating racism on the part of the speaker. When a forensic anthropologist identifies the gender and race of a long-dead skeleton, to help police identify a possibly missing person or murder victim, is that forensic anthropologist being a racist for having the knowledge of what marker genes indicate the race of the victim? Of course not. But there are those who will say that there is no genetic component to ethnicity, despite such knowledge being used on a daily basis in forensics, pharmacology, medicine, etc. etc.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 11:30 AM (mizYg)

389 I'm predisposed to question authority and drink too much. Genetic ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 21, 2014 11:31 AM (mUtlc)

390 Reposting my morning work for your reading pleasure. 2015 was an interesting year, in that Cliven Bundy was sworn in as our local sheriff and as promised he immediately disarmed the BLM. After deputizing a posse of 10,000 to keep vigil, no one ever saw the BLM in these parts again. With free range bovinae for as far as the eye could see, topsoil improved, turtles and other flora and fauna flourished, the soils cooled, trees grew, and the rains came. Within 50 years the desert had become like a garden of eden. Teaching the legend of Cliven Bundy is mandated course study in all public schools to this day (2114), and when asked what they want to be when they grown up its not unusual for a boy to declare "I want to be Cliven Bundy!" It is said that he stood 8 feet tall if he stood a foot and could split a cord of wood with his bare hands. Some say he still rides the hills with his giant ox protecting nature from an evil old Nevada Senator ghost, and if you listen closely the cows can be heard praising him with a loud mooooo off in the distance.

Posted by: Up With People at April 21, 2014 11:31 AM (pf+hU)

391 Okay time for a distraction.  Excerpt from Sluggor story

Sluggor's mind is going into overload, threatening to meltdown as he continues to gaze at her.  He wants to devour her in more ways than should be allowed as she fires his passion like no one ever has before.  He knows her name, everyone in the capital knows it and who it belongs to.  There can only be one such woman at a time in any city, even in the capital city of an empire.  Her name denotes magic and mystery, she is Moonlight Rain.  A woman as wise as she is beautiful, wise in the ways of stimulating and draining a man into happy oblivion he has heard.  And here she is walking towards him with this cutest of smiles on her face as those wide hips sway in counterpoint to her barely constrained breasts.  The tinkle of the golden ornaments that are sewn to the almost missing black silk top move in unison with her seductive gait.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 11:31 AM (DlqJm)

392 What I find interesting is that big bad whitey takes a back seat when it comes to the offspring of mixed races.

Posted by: Burt Toste at April 21, 2014 11:32 AM (7QnCd)

393 I was laying out his argument before he explicitly, inevitably, made it. Seriously, it's like listening to someone talking about "dead polar bears" and not realizing that they're really talking about something far different. After this many years, it doesn't even take a complete sentence.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 11:32 AM (ZshNr)

394

People are people so why should it be

You and I should get along so awfully?

Posted by: Depeche Mode at April 21, 2014 11:32 AM (DrWcr)

395 381 @376- I wondered what game you were watching. They play later tonight. I thought for a moment you were watching a Chicago-St.Louis baseball game or something. Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 21, 2014 03:29 PM (MKpBT) So even Seamus knew I was an idiot. I'm mortified.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 11:33 AM (oMKp3)

396 Northeast asians evolved fairer skin to produce more Vitamin D than southeast asians. That is a trait we can see -- skin color -- but also a hidden trait, the variation in Vitamin D production. My very dark southern Mediterranean olive skin has upsides and downsides. On the up aide, I don't sunburn and I don't have to smear myself with sunblock all the time like paleskinned whiteys. On the down side, I have a rather bad vitamin D deficiency and I have to take supplements (when I remember to take them). This despite the fact that I spend just about every minute outside in sunny weather. And when I lived in Texas, I got asked for my green card a few times by the police. I was like, I'm an American, y'all!

Posted by: Citizen X at April 21, 2014 11:33 AM (7ObY1)

397

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 03:31 PM (DlqJm)

 

 

 

 

 

You are wasting time. Get to the penetration.

Posted by: maddogg at April 21, 2014 11:33 AM (xWW96)

398 I'm predisposed to question authority and drink too much. Genetic ? I think we were separated at birth.

Posted by: eleven at April 21, 2014 11:33 AM (GXZgZ)

399

Having seen some of their female ski-athletes, it's not just genetics I'd like to see.

 

There used to be a website that accidentally logged pings from my IP.  It also featured photographs of attractive female athletes.  One scandi cross country skier just whipped off her top to change shirts.  Not at all self-conscious about showing her perky scandi nursing ornaments.  Ah, memories.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 21, 2014 11:34 AM (JtwS4)

400 Humans are just like any other species, there is variation among populations. That variation is subject to selective pressures. A huge selective pressure is the geography where the population resides. Life is different in Japan vs Ethiopia vs Sweden vs Madagascar vs Polynesia. That's how we have different groups with different phenotypes - some of which are visible to the naked eye, most of which are not. When we are talking elite athletes we are talking a tiny subset of the population. But if a population has a higher % of beneficial genes for that trait in the population than the odds increase for having individuals with elite performance levels.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 11:34 AM (ZPrif)

401 You're sure you've never met a racist? Charmed life. I've met plenty.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 11:34 AM (ZshNr)

402 We also know different human populations mated with different pre-existing hominids in human pre-history. That's why all non-sub-Saharan Africans are 2-5% Neanderthal. That's why Polynesians are part Denisovan (another ancient hominid group that humanity wiped after mating with them.) Those other hominid groups introduced genes into the populations they mated with. And those genes are not spread uniformly across human populations.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 11:36 AM (ZPrif)

403 I call "Jessie" "The White Uncle Phil Show" because that one guy looks exactly like Uncle Phil (RIP) except that he's white.

Posted by: ergie at April 21, 2014 11:37 AM (7XKHI)

404 But if a population has a higher % of beneficial genes for that trait in the population than the odds increase for having individuals with elite performance levels. Posted by: Costanza Defense this all started with the talk of who won the marathon. And a sentence like that takes away from the athlete's achievement. It wasn't about the athlete's choice. It isn't the priority he gave to training, the hours of his life, the over coming of injuries, the support of his family, the freedom to race by living in a country like ours. no its all his genes that is dehumanizing like he is a horse or a racing dog

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 11:39 AM (zOTsN)

405 Who are you talking to Lincolntf? I'm skimming, not clear if you are accusing me of being a racist or some white supremacist. I'm not white, btw. I'm a eurasian mutt. My mom was mostly white, I think. The Neanderthal and Denisovan stuff is fairly recent. It's really interesting. I don't understand the desire for ignorance. Facts are facts. What's true is what true. The story of human genetics, and the variation across time and geography is extremely interesting. The new discoveries of other ancient hominid species in our DNA is especially cool.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 11:40 AM (ZPrif)

406

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 03:31 PM (DlqJm)

 

 

You are wasting time. Get to the penetration.

Posted by: maddogg at April 21, 2014 03:33 PM (xWW96)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

Yes.  Please go on.  This thread demands genetic probing. 

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2014 11:40 AM (cu9Nx)

407 no one here is championing ignorance.

Posted by: thunderb at April 21, 2014 11:41 AM (zOTsN)

408

A Cro Magnon man walks into a bar.

 

The bartender says, " What can I get you to drink?"

 

The Cro Magnon says, " Yes if you please.  I would like a martini with a splash of vermouth , stirred not shaken with one olive . "

 

The bartender says, " No disrepect,  but I have to say I am really surprised by the sophistication of your order. "

 

The Cro Magnon man obviously perterbed replie,  " What do you think I am? A  Neanderthal ? "

Posted by: polynikes at April 21, 2014 11:42 AM (m2CN7)

409 401 You're sure you've never met a racist? Charmed life. I've met plenty. Posted by: Lincolntf Not an overt racist, at least. Obviously, one can't know what goes on in the hearts of men -- but ever actually meeting someone who said racist things? Never. And I don't visit the kind of Web sites where racists hang out either, I guess. One reads about racists in the news (like the Nazi guy that shot the Jewish center in Kansas recently), so obviously they exist, but to me they are some distant tribe I've never encountered.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 11:45 AM (mizYg)

410 No, it's not dehumanizing. Good for him for achieving his dream and maximizing his potential. Way to go. Looking at the genetics of athletic performance is not dehumanizing. It's just interesting. Tall people have more and better genes for height than short people (apart from malnutrition and early stunting disease. Strong people have more and better genes for strength. Fast people have more and better genes for speed. The important thing is figuring out what those genes are. It's no doubt quite complicated with hundreds of genes involved, some beneficial, some harmful for the trait. Elite athletes are born with higher potential than most, the right combination of more beneficial genes and fewer harmful ones for that trait. Still plenty of room for environment, hard-work, etc. But I'm more interested in identifying the genes.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 21, 2014 11:46 AM (ZPrif)

411 The act of running for office as a a continuation of the family business, by all rights, ought to be regarded by the voters of this country as thoroughly unamerican. I mean, people should look at it as only slightly more appealing than electing a serial sex offender or a drug addict or a drunk who left a woman to drown in a car under a bridge. So, IOW, nepotism is no problem. Rock on, 'Murica.

Posted by: Jaws at April 21, 2014 11:47 AM (eKZp1)

412 You're all cowards on the matter of race.

Posted by: Eric Holder at April 21, 2014 11:50 AM (DrWcr)

413 The Cro Magnon man obviously perterbed replie, " What do you think I am? A Neanderthal ? " Not. Cool.

Posted by: GEICO Caveman at April 21, 2014 11:50 AM (rt3TY)

414 its all his genes that is dehumanizing That's not my take. There's a saying, "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." There's a corollary to that saying. Talent that works hard beats less-talent that works just as hard. What is talent? Some of it's genetics.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 11:51 AM (o4Xc4)

415 I'm sure that you all realize that Mrs Mezvinsky is going to be old enough for the Presidency in plenty of time for the 2016 election, yes? There's a Clinton getting set to run for Pres alright, just not the one we keep thinking of.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 21, 2014 11:56 AM (TIIx5)

416 So Chelsea goes by "Clinton" and not "Mezvinsky," or even "Rodham?" I'm guessing that this is to symbolize her independence and strike another blow against Teh Patriarchy....

Posted by: BuddyPC at April 21, 2014 12:00 PM (jfUIE)

417 test

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 12:11 PM (o4Xc4)

418 Nothing to do with you Costanza, unless you think it does. I was referring to the Race Uber Alles troll. I know genetics matter, I also know that shitbags like that like to use that fact to make their useless ignorant points, over and over again. Here's how it goes .... "Well, if you acknowledge their legs are different, then why can't I say their brains are different?". I was hoping to short-circuit a troll, not flame anyone.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 12:15 PM (ZshNr)

419 The lefties love for aristocracy was given away when the gushed over the Camelot of Kennedy.

Posted by: Tantor at April 21, 2014 12:36 PM (659DL)

420 Here's how it goes .... "Well, if you acknowledge their legs are different, then why can't I say their brains are different?". I was hoping to short-circuit a troll, not flame anyone. Posted by: Lincolntf The problem arises not in acknowledging differences (even possible differences in brains, as touchy a subject as that may be), but rather assigning a moral or hierarchical significance to the difference. A true evolutionary scientist knows that there is no such thing as "better" or "worse" among any species, or any trait, or any variation. That includes even comparing humans and animals. Many people assume (falsely) that humans are "more evolved" or "more advanced" or (jumping to conclusions) "better" in some way than "lesser" animals. But that's not how evolution (and genetics) works. If humans are "more advanced" than birds, for example, then why can they fly but we can't? If we're "more advanced" than a worm, then why can't we survive getting chopped in half (as some worms can)? Even with brain function: If we're "more advanced" than dogs, then why can't humans trail a scent for miles through the snow? The same principle applies to human variations: A short Eskimo is not "better" or "worse" than a tall Dinka tribesman; straight red hair is not "uglier" or "prettier" than curly dark hair; and Greco-Roman philosophical conceptions o the Universe are not better or worse that Aborigine mythology. But noting the lack of moral hierarchy among variations is not the same thing as denying that those variations exist. Tall Dinkas may not be "better" than short Eskimos, but the fact is that Dinkas are indeed taller than Eskimos. Red hair may not be objectively prettier or uglier than dark hair, but if you go to place where cultural norms value red hair, then in that society people are attracted to red hair; and if you go to, say, China, they'll look at your red hair and think you are a grotesque demon. But either way: Some people do indeed have red hair, while others do not. The same holds true for invisible traits. Some very specific ethnic groups -- the Tarahumara of Mexico, the Ethiopians of the East African highlands, etc. -- have evolved to possess a trait which enables endurance running. We can't see this trait, but the results of fair competitions speak for themselves. That doesn't mean Tarahumaras or Ethiopians are "better" people, it just means that commonly have a trait which other ethnicities tend to not have as much. There is no moral component to the existence or absence of this trait. Many people have tried to grapple with the possibility that brain differences could also exist among ethnicities by reframing the narrative and pointing out that perhaps the ways various types of brains interact with or conceive of the world and society are not "better" or "worse," just "different" -- hence the popularity of such concepts as "emotional intelligence" or "spiritual connectedness" being high among certain populations while being low in others, etc. It's an interesting way of looking at it, at least. Anyway, sure I guess there are racist trolls on the Internet, but we shouldn't necessarily condemn people as trolls until they actually reveal their trollhood.

Posted by: zombie at April 21, 2014 12:49 PM (mizYg)

421 I'm confident in my assessment.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 12:58 PM (ZshNr)

422 I'm thinking that probably the worst thing that could ever happen to the company you built is to find out Chelsea Clinton wants to work there.

Posted by: Socratease at April 21, 2014 04:30 PM (82qVG)

423 "Hmm. Baroness Chelsea of Little Rock. Hmmm."

When's the last time Chelsea was in Little Rock? 1996?

Posted by: Wilkey at April 21, 2014 06:34 PM (A+inS)

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