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April 12, 2014

NASCAR: Race Day in Darlington, SC 4-12-14- [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse]
— Open Blogger

I'm still a bit sensitive over all the work I put into last week's post only to have it butt-stomped by a rain-out. Thus, this week, you get the bare minimum.

Misery loves company, eh?

The Duck Commander 500 was a complete washout last Sunday. First it was an hour delay. Then another hour delay. Then another. Finally, they threw their hands up and moved it to noon. On Monday. I didn't see it so I don't have a lot of details to report.

Right off the bat, on lap three, Dale Jr. suffered a fiery crash after crossing into the grass and losing a tire, but he's doing fine and will be participating in the race today. Thank God for that.

The winner of last week's race was Joey Logano, bringing the total to seven different winners in the seven races to date.

Yep. Texas.

This week's race, the Bojangles' Southern 500, will be run on the 1.37 mile track at Darlington with Kevin Harvick and Joey Logano leading the pack after clocking speeds of 183.479 and 183.049 respectively.

Leading the standings at present are Jeff Gordon (259 pts), Matt Kenseth (255 pts), and Carl Edwards (247 pts).

Now, what you really come here for, elbows:

Enjoy the race, folks.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 02:30 PM | Comments (223)
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1 No elbows. 😞

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 12, 2014 02:34 PM (u82oZ)

2 No rainout tonite

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 02:34 PM (Q8vlx)

3 No elbows. 😞 *** they are there you just have to look really closely.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 02:35 PM (DmNpO)

4 There's another elbow hidden behind that cleavage.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 12, 2014 02:40 PM (oFCZn)

5 On that lovely lady's outfit, the patch is for Route 69. What an awful coincidence I'm sure...

Posted by: not that I was closely observing or anything at April 12, 2014 02:40 PM (08jH8)

6 On that lovely lady's outfit, the patch is for Route 69. What an awful coincidence I'm sure... Posted by: not that I was closely observing or anything at April 12, 2014 06:40 PM (08jH

I've heard of that highway. Leads to Hershey, PA.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 12, 2014 02:42 PM (TIIx5)

7
NASCAR should rehire Paige Duke and not be judgmental about her posting pictures of her cute little cooter on the Interwebs.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at April 12, 2014 02:43 PM (nQjHM)

Go Junior!

I always root for him...and sometimes he has the worst luck.

But he always is a gentleman about it, and doesn't blame anyone else...even when other cars cause him to wreck..

Posted by: wheatie at April 12, 2014 02:44 PM (FWbLS)

9 >>>'ve heard of that highway. Leads to Hershey, PA.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 12, 2014 06:42 PM (TIIx5)<<<

It can if you take the wrong exit.

Posted by: not that I was closely observing or anything at April 12, 2014 02:44 PM (08jH8)

10 Oh my, it looks like that poor girl's zipper is stuck I'll help her with it if she wants it fixed

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 02:44 PM (aTXUx)

11 Darlington is one of the best tracks in nascar for real racing. Should be good. Full moon too.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 02:47 PM (Q8vlx)

12 Diggitty diggitty diggitty?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 12, 2014 02:50 PM (bitz6)

13 Boss pay no attention to that guy. He has completely lost it.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 02:51 PM (Q8vlx)

14 Looks like a good crowd at Darlington.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 02:51 PM (ZPrif)

15 What's different about this race? Or, this track? Their speed seems more visible today.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 02:53 PM (DmNpO)

16 Why are they trading paint with the wall?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 12, 2014 02:54 PM (bitz6)

17 My boy Hubba Watson tried to choke away the lead at the Masters but finished tied for the lead. Now on to the racecars. As always, thanks NDH.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 02:55 PM (MpwEk)

18 Flatbush, Darlington always has a good crowd, nascar never should have taken a race away from them. I love that place.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 02:56 PM (Q8vlx)

19 Hubba= Bubba.heh

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 02:56 PM (MpwEk)

20 You're welcome!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 02:57 PM (DmNpO)

21 I've grown to like the Fox leaderboard vs the traditional ticker scroll. I like always seeing the top 3.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 02:58 PM (ZPrif)

22 Tomorrow at Augusta should be a good one.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 12, 2014 02:59 PM (oMKp3)

23 21 That 43 driver screen crawl was annoying.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 12, 2014 03:00 PM (bitz6)

24 I think all Sports threads should be all-Sports threads. I'm wicked Occupy on that point.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 12, 2014 03:01 PM (ZshNr)

25 Augusta has a track now?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 12, 2014 03:01 PM (bitz6)

26 Yeah Boss when did that happen?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:03 PM (Q8vlx)

27 Posted by: Boss Moss at April 12, 2014 07:01 PM (bitz6) I have to admit, auto racing is one of two sports I don't watch. Pro basketball being the other one. Oh. And soccer. But that doesn't really count as a sport, does it?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 12, 2014 03:03 PM (oMKp3)

28 I think all Sports threads should be all-Sports threads. I'm wicked Occupy on that point.

Yeah. It's baseball season.

And if you like metric football, tonight's Indy Eleven game is available on espn3.com. I've been trying to avoid being interested, but they take their name, logo, and mascot from the 11th Indiana Volunteer Infantry "Zouaves", which was led by Major General Lew Wallace, and that shit is endlessly fascinating.

Posted by: HR at April 12, 2014 03:04 PM (hO8IJ)

29 My big idea for improving racing is have the lead driver's sponsor where the Fox Sport logo is. Nascar is always trying to incentivize the drivers to race harder and, especially, to contest for the lead in the early and middle parts of the race. Right now you get 1 point for leading a lap, and 1 point for leading the most laps in a race. That's not that much of an incentive. And often in long races, guys are content to just hang out in the pack and not push that hard to be leading lap 46 or lap 172 of a 300 lap race. So my idea is whoever is leading gets to have their sponsor nice and clear in the corner of the TV, like where they put the Fox Sports logo. Now that will motivate the drivers to get to the front.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 03:04 PM (ZPrif)

30 No women divers allowed.

Posted by: the "track" at Augusta at April 12, 2014 03:04 PM (08jH8)

31 I think all Sports threads should be all-Sports threads. I'm wicked Occupy on that point. *** If you've got something on your mind, have at it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 03:04 PM (DmNpO)

32 I think they should have a drive thru for the drivers to get fast food in the pits.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 12, 2014 03:05 PM (bitz6)

33 The NAACP Hockey Champeenship is being played tonight. I have a good friend whose son plays on the Golden Gopher team. It seems as though it is not on my COMCAST Cable though.

Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 12, 2014 03:06 PM (jucos)

34 I second the motion that any sports thread should be an all sports thread. Nascar, Masters, Frozen Four Final, MLB, NHL.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 03:07 PM (ZPrif)

35 NDH is working overtime. Thanks for that.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 12, 2014 03:07 PM (IXrOn)

36 I like the idea of "all purpose sports thread" too. But I'm not a cob. I have a couple good books that I got today, so I think I'll put the Brewers game on in the background while I read. Have a great night everyone!

Posted by: grammie winger at April 12, 2014 03:07 PM (oMKp3)

37 They have an all black hockey league now?why wasn't I informed of this?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:07 PM (Q8vlx)

38 Do they have to wear green jackets. You still can't say the word for sportcoat that rhymes with lazer.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 12, 2014 03:07 PM (bitz6)

39 There have to be better options for racing analysts than DW and Larry Mac. Especially Waltrip. I guess some folks love him but I don't get it. At all.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 03:07 PM (MpwEk)

40 Nite Grammie.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:08 PM (Q8vlx)

41 Is the groove of the track pulling them up into the wall?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 12, 2014 03:09 PM (bitz6)

42 Look, I've never had an issue with any topic being discussed in any post I put up, however, I'm not researching every current sport in order to prevent leaving something out. There may be days when I feel like doing so, but this is not that day. Again, please feel free to discuss any sport to your heart's content. I'm sure most here will welcome the variety.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 03:10 PM (DmNpO)

43 Boss: Thats about it.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:10 PM (Q8vlx)

44 How about them Curlers huh? That Norwegian Team..... Shoot....

Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 12, 2014 03:11 PM (jucos)

45 Nascar, Masters, Frozen Four Final, MLB, NHL. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 07:07 PM (ZPrif) Elbows

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 03:11 PM (aTXUx)

46 Ah, I wasn't criticizing NDH. Nascar is the event I care most about today. Was trying to make others feel welcome.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 03:11 PM (ZPrif)

47 You can see a nipple. It's right between her eyes. Really.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 12, 2014 03:12 PM (8MjqI)

48 NDH Thanks for the nascar thread it does make the race more interesting when you can bs about it withthe morons.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:12 PM (Q8vlx)

49 There's always the WWE Women's Wrestling

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 03:13 PM (aTXUx)

50 'sup, kids? do I need to flip over from the Masters to the zoom zoom, vroom vroom?

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:14 PM (8lmkt)

51 Yeah Peaches.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:15 PM (Q8vlx)

52 wait, lap 46 of 367?

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:15 PM (8lmkt)

53 Lady in red, showing off her Darlington pair.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 12, 2014 03:16 PM (0AKks)

54 In my day there was GLOW. Gorgeous Ladies Of Wrestling. Kind of low budget. The wimmenz were a bit flabby but very well endowed.

Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 12, 2014 03:16 PM (jucos)

55 In the spirit of all sports, my Braves will win the World Series this year! All you bandwagon jumpers need to get on now while you can still get a seat. Don't say I didn't give you fair warning. Don't hate.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 03:16 PM (MpwEk)

56 I'm still tying to figure out what's different today. Usually the cars, because they are all moving in unison, seem to be going much slower than they really are. Today the speed is very noticeable.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 03:16 PM (DmNpO)

57 just paid $4.23 for Shell at the "cheap" station here in El Lay. over in the marina where I work, they were all $4.33 and up all week.

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:18 PM (8lmkt)

58 Do they have pimento cheese sandwiches at Darlington???

Posted by: phreshone at April 12, 2014 03:18 PM (kFxpe)

59 Chase Elliot won again in Nationwide. Elliot and Larson, the half-asian rookie invasion!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 03:18 PM (ZPrif)

60 NDH, it may be the alternating red and white pattern on the wall. I've noticed the same thing.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 03:18 PM (MpwEk)

61 Sox just got smoked by the Yankees, so I am inconveniently left with nothing to say.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 12, 2014 03:19 PM (ZshNr)

62 they do seem super zoomy today!!

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:19 PM (8lmkt)

63 NDH: Wait til it gets dark, they lookeven faster then. I think it looks faster now because they have better camera angles and sightlines.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:20 PM (Q8vlx)

64 NDH, it may be the alternating red and white pattern on the wall. I've noticed the same thing. *** Aha! that could be it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 03:20 PM (DmNpO)

65 55 - It'll be interesting to see how your Barves win it all with Medlen and Beachy out for the year with TJ surgery and Minor out with a sore shoulder I do hate, but I hate all the teams other than the Mets in the NL East equally.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 03:20 PM (aTXUx)

66 Sox just got smoked by the Yankees, so I am inconveniently left with nothing to say.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 12, 2014 07:19 PM (ZshNr)

You say, heh, it's April, who gives a shit? Talk to me in September/October, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:20 PM (8lmkt)

67 NDH: Wait til it gets dark, they lookeven faster then. I think it looks faster now because they have better camera angles and sightlines. *** They have done some great camera work today.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 03:20 PM (DmNpO)

68 For motorsports fans, the site http://www.tvracer.com/ is very useful. time, channel, weather, nice and convenient. Supercross in Seattle tonight, live on FS1.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 03:22 PM (ZPrif)

69 65 kdb, I have to admit, losing Medlin hurt, a lot.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 03:22 PM (MpwEk)

70 57 just paid $4.23 for Shell at the "cheap" station here in El Lay. over in the marina where I work, they were all $4.33 and up all week. Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 07:18 PM (8lmkt) $3.75 here in Sarasota, but the tourist season is still in full swing

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 03:23 PM (aTXUx)

71 69 65 kdb, I have to admit, losing Medlin hurt, a lot. Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 07:22 PM (MpwEk) We lost Harvey for the year, now Parnell. Tell me about it

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 03:24 PM (aTXUx)

72 I paid $4.15 in DC yesterday.

Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 12, 2014 03:26 PM (jucos)

73 I had one of the flatizza's from Subway. It sucked.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 03:26 PM (ZPrif)

74 The most annoying thing about NASCAR is that the important stuff always happens during commercials. They've already missed a pass for the lead and a wreck.

Posted by: zmdavid at April 12, 2014 03:26 PM (cmkck)

75 I had one of the flatizza's from Subway. It sucked. *** You thought it wouldn't?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 03:27 PM (DmNpO)

76 Those Carls Jr. x-tra bacon thickburger ads are killin' me. If they delivered, I wouldn't ever need to buy groceries. OMG, I want one so bad . . . just too damn lazy to roll out and get one.

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:27 PM (8lmkt)

77 "In the spirit of all sports, my Braves will win the World Series this year!" Kris Medlin, Brandon Beachy and a couple of dangling ulnar-collateral ligaments would disagree with you. Please call Dr. James Andrews for further advice.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:27 PM (lq3Ak)

78 We have $3.32 at the Sam's Club here.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 12, 2014 03:27 PM (bitz6)

79 The most annoying thing about NASCAR is that the important stuff always happens during commercials. They've already missed a pass for the lead and a wreck. *** A couple of weeks ago Fox did the picture-in-picture of the race during commercials. I really liked that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 03:28 PM (DmNpO)

80 Those Carls Jr. x-tra bacon thickburger ads are killin' me. If they delivered, I wouldn't ever need to buy groceries. OMG, I want one so bad . . . just too damn lazy to roll out and get one. *** I'm not a fan of bacon on my burgers, but Hardees has the best fast food burgers and their cod fish sandwich is pretty good too.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 03:29 PM (DmNpO)

81 That track level camera makes me seasick.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 12, 2014 03:29 PM (bitz6)

82 77 Ligaments? We don't need no stinking ligaments!

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 03:29 PM (MpwEk)

83 There has been an epidemic lately of pitchers going down with torn UCL's and needing Tommy John surgery Tom Seaver says his theory is that pitchers don't throw enough, and the babying with pitch and innings limits might actually be doing more harm than good. Some theorize that college pitchers especially throw too many pitches per start The man pitched 20 years at an average of 250 innings a year, so I give his opinion some weight

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 03:29 PM (aTXUx)

84 Oh, and when B.J. Upton gets his batting average over the Mendoza line? ...that will also be newsworthy... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:30 PM (lq3Ak)

85 I wish fox would stream this, the way espn streams nhra no commercials, never miss anything.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:30 PM (Q8vlx)

86 so, I took a giant bag of books over to the Goodwill today and stopped by the pub, it's right there. instead of the usual Saturday quiet time, they had a meeting of the Emerald Society (Irish persuasion cops and firefighters) and then the Eagle Rock rugby squad rolled in, they all looked Samoan, had the wives and girlfriends and the darlin' little kids. Totes crazy! Place was jam-packed but everyone was absolutely lovely. Rugby team had just beat Santa Moronica 50-0! They were some happy people!

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:30 PM (8lmkt)

87 unless you're in AK or HI you don't know expensive gas. CA NY and NJ are not pikers either. Thoughts from others?

Posted by: alcoa fedora at April 12, 2014 03:31 PM (hqVUe)

88 I'm not a fan of bacon on my burgers, but Hardees has the best fast food burgers and their cod fish sandwich is pretty good too.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 07:29 PM (DmNpO)

LOL, my sis was at a little party last weekend, said they had bacon-wrapped asparagus and it was delightful. I told her that I would eat q-tips if they wrapped 'em in bacons. To me, bacon on a burger is probably as close to heaven as I'm gonna get anytime soon.

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:32 PM (8lmkt)

89 Wait til TFG outlaws fracking by executive order, we'll all be pedalling everywhere we go. His goal is 8 bucks a gallon.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:33 PM (Q8vlx)

90 84 BJ just hit his first home run of the season. The Braves have scored 4 runs in the first inning. Oh look, another seat on the bandwagon just got taken.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 03:33 PM (MpwEk)

91 82 77 Ligaments? We don't need no stinking ligaments! Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 07:29 PM (MpwEk) R.A. Dickey was actually born without UCL ligaments. It was discovered when he was drafted out of college. The joke on the Amazin' Avenue blog is that all pitchers should have R.A. Dickey surgery when they get signed

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 03:34 PM (aTXUx)

92 Didn't NHRA add a "Chase" system like Nascar did? How did that work out?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 03:35 PM (ZPrif)

93 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse is just all up ons on the weekend. Good work! Thanks for keeping the place fresh during the long, dark, solitary times between workdays. Every time the HQ updates, I don't take a shot.

Posted by: .87c at April 12, 2014 03:36 PM (qZPXs)

Gas in South Jersey averages $3.30 right now. Pretty cheap. Some Sam's Clubs up North are at $3.14. Gas in Jersey is cheap..... and it is full serve too.

Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 12, 2014 03:36 PM (jucos)

95 Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 07:29 PM (aTXUx) The Texas rangers have required more innings from their pitchers and I know Nolan Ryan is behind another sort of experimental program like that. As far as the college kids go, the programs are all vastly different. I wouldn't be surprised that throwing less often has something to do with that rash of T.J. surgeries. It is correlation, but causation is still speculative. Breaking-pitches from younger kids has also been specualted. The fact remains that the human elbow wasn't made for the stress that curveballs and sliders put on it. Especially at the MPH thrown in MLB.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:37 PM (lq3Ak)

96 84 Oh, and when B.J. Upton gets his batting average over the Mendoza line? ...that will also be newsworthy... lol. Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 07:30 PM (lq3Ak) BJ Upton? The Barves would have been better off putting KATE Upton out in CF last year

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 03:37 PM (aTXUx)

97 Flatbush: Yes they did, it actually works better than nascar. NHRA guys are a little different about their racing.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:37 PM (Q8vlx)

98 "Oh look, another seat on the bandwagon just got taken." Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 07:33 PM (MpwEk) One-Hundred and Sixty Two is a number that keeps recurring in my head. I don't know why.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:38 PM (lq3Ak)

99 "BJ Upton? The Barves would have been better off putting KATE Upton out in CF last year." Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 07:37 PM (aTXUx) I'd pay good money to see that!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:39 PM (lq3Ak)

100 I'm just busting your balls, weirdflunky! No offense intended, Sir!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:40 PM (lq3Ak)

101 so, I saw some cute shirts at the Target earlier, threw a couple of 'em in the cart. one is an XS and fits just fine, roomy and good. the other is a medium and, factoring in the eventual wash and dry, a large would be better. this makes no sense. and, apparently, today is not the day I will cut back on my beer-swillin'. Again.

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:40 PM (8lmkt)

102 98 I'll save your seat Slap.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 03:40 PM (MpwEk)

103 Slap, are you in Texas????

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:42 PM (8lmkt)

104 The fact remains that the human elbow wasn't made for the stress that curveballs and sliders put on it. Especially at the MPH thrown in MLB. Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 07:37 PM (lq3Ak) Sometimes it's mechanics, build.. But Matt Harvey and Steven Strasburg have almost perfect mechanics and an ideal pitchers build and they tore UCLs. Some speculate that Harvey was throwing his slider too hard, it was at 92 mph With the money invested and the premium in MLB on young pitchers who are years away from free agency, MLB is trying to find answers fast

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 03:42 PM (aTXUx)

105 "I'll save your seat Slap." ****** HAH! After all that, I think they can still finish second in the N.L. East. There's a lot of talent on that team, plus the kids that are taking the injured pitchers' places aren't chopped liver. They won't overtake the Nationals, but they had a shot before the injuries.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:44 PM (lq3Ak)

106 so, I saw some cute shirts at the Target earlier, threw a couple of 'em in the cart. one is an XS and fits just fine, roomy and good. the other is a medium and, factoring in the eventual wash and dry, a large would be better. this makes no sense. and, apparently, today is not the day I will cut back on my beer-swillin'. Again. *** There should be a standardization of sizes. The lack of one is the primary reason that I rarely shop online. Although, last month, I went on a big shopping binge and quickly regretted it as I ran to and from between my house, UPS, and USPS returning various items.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 03:44 PM (DmNpO)

107 100 None taken Slap. Part of the fun of sports is explaining the virtue of your team while trying to show the other guy what an absolute dipshit for liking his team he is. In a nice way of courseheh

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 03:44 PM (MpwEk)

108 I'm in Ohio, Peaches. Cleveland area.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:45 PM (lq3Ak)

109 Hey Slap, Does Cleveland really rock?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:46 PM (Q8vlx)

110 The NAACP Champeenship is on the Teevee. ESPN. I am going to watch it.

Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 12, 2014 03:47 PM (jucos)

111 Evening all. Always enjoy watching the egg shaped track race under the lights.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 12, 2014 03:47 PM (ojnk6)

112 I'm in Ohio, Peaches. Cleveland area.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 07:45 PM (lq3Ak)

OMG, Slap! I lived in Huron-Milan for 6 months some years ago when the late great Mr. Peaches was building a store in Elyria. Very cool place, it was the shit. Love how they light up those bridges down in partytown, where the river caught fire that time.

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:47 PM (8lmkt)

113 "Hey Slap, Does Cleveland really rock?" ****** No.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:47 PM (lq3Ak)

114 109 Chavez, I don't know if it rocks. But they did prove water can burn.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 03:48 PM (MpwEk)

115 Just wonderin thanks.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:48 PM (Q8vlx)

116 Yup... the bridges are cool. I lived in North Ridgeville or three years when I was a lad, so I know the Elyria-area pretty well.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:49 PM (lq3Ak)

117 racing aint my thing, but I get why ya'll rednecks (yeah, I'm one too) like it. So racey racey and enjoy!

Posted by: tangonine at April 12, 2014 03:49 PM (x3YFz)

118 Niedermeyer, that is exactly why I very rarely shop online. It's such a crapshoot. And, sure, free shipping and returns, it's still a huge pita.

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:49 PM (8lmkt)

119 Most people, when they want hot water, merely turn the knob on the left. We set rivers on fire.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:49 PM (lq3Ak)

120 see me, feel me, touch me, --t me. Ya, I sell cheese burgers. What do you do?

Posted by: carl's jr babe at April 12, 2014 03:50 PM (hqVUe)

121 "Hey Slap, Does Cleveland really rock?"

******

No.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 07:47 PM (lq3Ak)

Double no.

Posted by: tangonine at April 12, 2014 03:50 PM (x3YFz)

122 117 racing aint my thing, but I get why ya'll rednecks (yeah, I'm one too) like it. So racey racey and enjoy! Posted by: tangonine at April 12, 2014 07:49 PM (x3YFz) Really? NASCAR ain't my thing either, but I've always wanted to be a race car driver. Until that day happens, I still have Forza.

Posted by: EC at April 12, 2014 03:51 PM (doBIb)

123 Oh and if this hasn't been covered, it looks like BLM is retreating from Bundy's ranch. Someone sensible called the right decision.

Posted by: EC at April 12, 2014 03:52 PM (doBIb)

124 Only drove through it once. Couldn't tell much that way.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 03:52 PM (Q8vlx)

125 Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of bars, stages and venues to watch live rock bands; but most of them are aged and stinky. Lakewood is a decent area to see good bands in small venues.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:53 PM (lq3Ak)

126 Wut up, Slap?

Posted by: EC at April 12, 2014 03:54 PM (doBIb)

127 42 Look, I've never had an issue with any topic being discussed in any post I put up, however, I'm not researching every current sport in order to prevent leaving something out. There may be days when I feel like doing so, but this is not that day. Again, please feel free to discuss any sport to your heart's content. I'm sure most here will welcome the variety. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 07:10 PM (DmNpO) WHERE'S THE CRICKET SCORES?!!?!?!?!11? Seriously NDH you're a good egg and you do a great job.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 12, 2014 03:55 PM (oFCZn)

128 I've grown to like a lot of different forms of motorsports, but never gotten into drag racing. Not sure why. Nascar, Supercross, F1, various off-road and dirt racing. I do like the way drag boats look. Lucas Oil has a series. But Lucas Oil has a series in everything with a motor it seems. NHRA seems to have a loyal, core audience. I know Nascar got hit hard by the Great Recession, how did NHRA do? A bunch of Nascar tracks have built drag strips as part of the complex, right? Charlotte, Vegas, not sure who else.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 03:55 PM (ZPrif)

129 Same old, EC. Still shaking-off last night's hangover. Some sloppy-joes helped. Easy to make.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:56 PM (lq3Ak)

130 They got some epic sports stadiums down there in Cleveland. At least, they were nice when I was there, as I said, it's been some years. Never made it to the Rock {ampersand} Roll Museum, but they have a decent Ritz Carlton.

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:56 PM (8lmkt)

131 NHRA seems to have a loyal, core audience. I know Nascar got hit hard by the Great Recession, how did NHRA do? *** the only thing I know about NHRA is what I learned watching Heart Like A Wheel. BTW, good movie.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 03:57 PM (DmNpO)

132 I haven't really watched racing since Al Unser, Rick Mears and Cale Yarborough were running laps.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:57 PM (lq3Ak)

133
Seriously NDH you're a good egg and you do a great job.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 12, 2014 07:55 PM (oFCZn)

Aye. Don't misinterpret our sarcasm and bitterness as personal. We're just like that.

Posted by: tangonine at April 12, 2014 03:58 PM (x3YFz)

134 Well, all you Cleveland residents can take at least some comfort in one universal truth of the State of Ohio. No matter how bad things get in Cleveland it will always be worse in Toledo. Always.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 03:58 PM (qJPSp)

135 "No matter how bad things get in Cleveland it will always be worse in Toledo. Always." Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 07:58 PM (qJPSp) Being that close to Michigan doesn't help.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 03:59 PM (lq3Ak)

136 Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 07:58 PM (qJPSp)

that's some funny shit right there, cookie!

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 03:59 PM (8lmkt)

137 Still shaking-off last night's hangover. The only way to kill a hangover with more alcohol!

Posted by: EC at April 12, 2014 03:59 PM (doBIb)

138 Is

Posted by: EC at April 12, 2014 04:00 PM (doBIb)

139 "The only way to kill a hangover with more alcohol!" ****** HAH! Not a chance, today!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 04:00 PM (lq3Ak)

140 Saturday night in Toledo, Ohio Is like being nowhere at all

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 04:01 PM (ZPrif)

141

I once spent a week in Toledo one day.

Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 12, 2014 04:01 PM (jucos)

142 John Denver was a dick.

Posted by: Toledo Chamber of Commerce at April 12, 2014 04:02 PM (ZPrif)

143 This is a stooped sport that contributes to global warming and President Obama should ban this sport.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at April 12, 2014 04:02 PM (Bnwqk)

144 To give you an idea of how bad things are in Toledo, the city government is still rending garments over the needlessly expensive beautification project. The idea was to woo businesses to Lucas County by spending millions of dollars planting flowers. Did I mention that money came from the road paving budget? And that the roads in Toledo are pothole marked death courses? Fun times.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:02 PM (qJPSp)

145 Ah, but let's not forget that the folks of Toledo Unselfishly gave us the scale No springs, honest weight, that's the promise they made So smile and be thankful next time you get weighed!

Posted by: Toledo Chamber of Commerce at April 12, 2014 04:05 PM (ZPrif)

146 Also, the new mayor is a union stooge. Whatever former mayor Mike Bell's shortcomings, he was not exactly anti-union, though he did support a failed ballot initiative to rein out of control unions in. This new guy is so pro-union, even traditionally left-wing outfits are calling him out for it.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:05 PM (qJPSp)

147 144 "To give you an idea of how bad things are in Toledo..." Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 08:02 PM (qJPSp) Damn. Yeah, I thought Cleveland was stupid. Try opening a bar in Cleveland. You're leveraged to the hilt before you hang one shelf or run one line. Businesses are moving to the Treemont area, but they'll over-regulate that soon, as well.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 04:05 PM (lq3Ak)

148 NHRA seems to be doing ok in this economy. They have a different fan base. Much friendlier in my opinion. Check out the four wide nationals they are running this weekend at Charlotte, good crowds. The drivers of NHRA are the most accessible in all big time motorsports and really great people.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 04:06 PM (Q8vlx)

149 142 John Denver was a dick. Posted by: Toledo Chamber of Commerce at April 12, 2014 08:02 PM (ZPrif) He could sure fly a plane though. Oh...wait.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 12, 2014 04:06 PM (oFCZn)

150 "The drivers of NHRA are the most accessible in all big time motorsports and really great people." Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 08:06 PM (Q8vlx) My father is a HUGE fan of NHRA. His blood is nitro-fueled and he gets the shakes to get those shakes...lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 04:08 PM (lq3Ak)

151 I went flying then I got high. Zombie John Denver.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 04:08 PM (Q8vlx)

152 The Indy car race tomorrow is at 4:50 (wth) eastern time. I have no idea what network though. The street course in Long Beach. Should be enjoyable enough to watch if you can find it.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 12, 2014 04:08 PM (MpwEk)

153 Slap, your dad go to Vegas?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 04:09 PM (Q8vlx)

154 WHERE'S THE CRICKET SCORES?!!?!?!?!11? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 12, 2014 07:55 PM (oFCZn) ESPN used to show Aussie football a lot back in the 90s It was fun to watch, they'd get in huge fights that make the NHL look gentlemanly. But we know which sport you REALLY want, Dack ... Jello Wrestling! http://tinyurl.com/ot9nzlw

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 04:10 PM (aTXUx)

155 Also, the most absurd recent thing was when the new mayor cut off the city credit cards for city employees. This may sound good, until the details came in: apparently the charges that led to this ban were buying gas for city vehicles. Which is to say, the one time that city workers were actually being responsible with taxpayer money causes the mayor to freak out. The less responsible spending went unremarked upon. Of course, he didn't actually cut spending, no, Mayor Collins could not do something so responsible. What he did was just force all city employees to use checks instead. This increased administrative costs, and made city services even slower and inefficient. I swear Toledo is the portal to Bizarro World, and there is a shining utopia just a transdimensional jump away.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:11 PM (qJPSp)

156 That boot trophy's heel is a bit on the flamboyant side.

Posted by: The Bad Seed at April 12, 2014 04:12 PM (wu/TK)

157 "Slap, your dad go to Vegas?" ****** Nope. Norwalk Raceway Park is a "local" venue he attends every year. He also watches the stuff on ESPN 8, "The Ocho".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 04:12 PM (lq3Ak)

158 But we know which sport you REALLY want, Dack ... Jello Wrestling! http://tinyurl.com/ot9nzlw Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2014 08:10 PM (aTXUx) I wasn't aware there were any other forms of wrestling until I was 40.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 12, 2014 04:12 PM (oFCZn)

159 IHRA Darlington is IIRC right across the street.

http://www.darlingtondragway.com/ihra_sss_races

Drag racing is Mad Science for rednecks, show up on a Friday night with your old football helmet and you can blow mom's car up. I watched Connie Kallita sp? lift the blower qualifying from 50 feet away.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 12, 2014 04:13 PM (DL2i+)

160 Slap, tell him to get a roku, youcan watch all the races live from the track, no interruptions. Just like being there.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 04:14 PM (Q8vlx)

161 Not sure why, but I think of NHRA and drag racing in general as a west coast thing.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 04:15 PM (ZPrif)

162 A recap of other news: Obama said don't call my bluff. Bundy called all-in, Obama folded.

Posted by: UWP at April 12, 2014 04:15 PM (pf+hU)

163 "I swear Toledo is the portal to Bizarro World, and there is a shining utopia just a transdimensional jump away." Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 08:11 PM (qJPSp) Like I said... the proximity to Michigan bodes poorly. The shittiest part? You can try to "escape" to Lima, Dayton, Cincy, Youngstown, Columbus, Akron, etc... and they're all going "The Way of The D". Unions are strong and bold in Ohio.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 04:16 PM (lq3Ak)

164 A friend of mein Freund has a ticket to the F-1 race in Shanghai. I'm looking forward to the story and the pictures, but I'm also glad I don't have to go.

Posted by: HR at April 12, 2014 04:17 PM (hO8IJ)

165 No thread for #BundyRanch? It's the biggest story of the day, and perhaps more. AoS should at least have a more recent Open Thread, no?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 12, 2014 04:17 PM (KL49F)

166 A recap of other news: Obama said don't call my bluff. Bundy called all-in, Obama folded. *** I'm seeing tweets claiming that armed militia showed up. The feds pulling back from this situation was not only in their own best interest but likely spared the lives of protesters. I am afraid that there are many sitting on their haunches, waiting for an opportunity to start an all-out war with the feds.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 04:18 PM (DmNpO)

167 "Slap, tell him to get a roku, youcan watch all the races live from the track, no interruptions. Just like being there." Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 08:14 PM (Q8vlx) He's been bitching about cable for five years now. I've told him about Roku, but I didn't know about the NHRA. Thanks! The only problem with ditching cable is the sports. I can't get away from that inconvenient fact.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 04:19 PM (lq3Ak)

168 Ugh, don't remind me Slapweasel. The failure of Issue 2 back in 2011 only cemented union domination. And just when their strength was beginning to falter in Michigan. If this trend continues, people will be blaming Monroe, MI's problems on its proximity to Ohio.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:19 PM (qJPSp)

169 To give you an idea of how bad things are in Toledo, the city government is still rending garments over the needlessly expensive beautification project. The idea was to woo businesses to Lucas County by spending millions of dollars planting flowers. Did I mention that money came from the road paving budget? And that the roads in Toledo are pothole marked death courses? Fun times. Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 08:02 PM (qJPSp) ---- I don't watch local news, or it would be Toledo news, and haven't for about 20 years, but once in a while I catch something amusing coming from that pathetic Detroit wanna-be town. They bought a whole bunch of land near the airport so they could woo in Fedex (or someone), and the mayor it the time went on the record saying that they should sell the abandoned houses that they acquired through eminent domain to the deaf people (because they shouldn't care about the jet noise, being deaf and all).

Posted by: UWP at April 12, 2014 04:19 PM (pf+hU)

170 166 This was my number one fear when I heard Militias were on the way. One shot from a zealot and lotsa blood gets spilled.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 12, 2014 04:20 PM (ojnk6)

171 "If this trend continues, people will be blaming Monroe, MI's problems on its proximity to Ohio." Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 08:19 PM (qJPSp) *HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 04:20 PM (lq3Ak)

172 We all know what you really want. And it's not jello fights. It's compassion.

Posted by: Jeb at April 12, 2014 04:20 PM (Aif/5)

173 Dang. The Indy Eleven game looks packed.

Posted by: HR at April 12, 2014 04:20 PM (hO8IJ)

174 Slap, Check out rokus web page, I love roku. Who is his internet provider?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 04:20 PM (Q8vlx)

175 http://espn.go.com/racing/schedule/_/series/nhra

The season starts and ends in Pomona but all the other races are all over.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 12, 2014 04:21 PM (DL2i+)

176 "Slap, Check out rokus web page, I love roku. Who is his internet provider?" Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 08:20 PM (Q8vlx) Time Warner.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 04:22 PM (lq3Ak)

177 OT on Bundy Ranch Fed ran 138 cattle to death with helicopters and shot two of them. According to one report, BLM has promised to pay Bundy for the cattle they killed

Posted by: thunderb at April 12, 2014 04:22 PM (zOTsN)

178 Obama said don't call my bluff. Bundy called all-in, Obama folded.

well, I was glad to see that today, but I figure barky can't take the heat of a Ruby Ridge or a Waco, so he's folding. fuck his sorry ass anyway.

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 04:22 PM (8lmkt)

179 That would be Carty Finkbeiner UWP. I am not making that up, that is his real name. That move of his is still mocked every now and then by people old enough to remember. Weird stuff like that was his forte. The worst part? He was the best mayor we had in decades, which is why he won a third term about a decade ago.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:22 PM (qJPSp)

180 Say what you will about the north coast I'll put Lake Erie perch(walleye a close second) up against any other fish fresh or salt water.The guys I go with launch out of Conneaut and we stay pretty much in the eastern basin.Darlington is a great track to watch a race live...I've been a season ticket holder for Richmond for 15 years and go every fall and sell the spring race.RCR is one of the most fan friendly tracks that is on the circuit.

Posted by: YTown Guy at April 12, 2014 04:23 PM (das+y)

181 This was my number one fear when I heard Militias were on the way. One shot from a zealot and lotsa blood gets spilled. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 12, 2014 08:20 PM This shit is gonna be Ruby Ridge times Waco before it's over...

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 12, 2014 04:25 PM (kKdYS)

182 Didn't the post-war hot rod culture and early drag racing start in California? A lot of motorsports started out west. Motocross, supercross, off-road racing. Cali is ruled by car haters now, but used to love everything with a motor.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 12, 2014 04:25 PM (ZPrif)

183 Did you see that they are trying to shut down the sriracha plant? Rooster sauce is in danger?

Posted by: west coast watcher at April 12, 2014 04:26 PM (hqVUe)

184 Oh god yes, Fried and salted Lake Erie Perch is one of the best seafood dishes I've ever had, and I'm something of a seafood connoisseur. Whenever one of the local restaurants has it on the menu, I have to at least consider it.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:26 PM (qJPSp)

185 If anyone questions Harry The Cross-Eyed Opossum's involvement in any BLM deal in Nevada, please read what Dana Loesch has to say on the issue of Bundy being a "deadbeat"

http://tinyurl.com/klz2ope

Spread the word. He and his son were involved in a solar deal with the Chinese....think of the profit he would have had with a fifty billion dollar deal! And for China as well on the backs of American ranchers! A win-win for commies! ***Like they really need 600,000 acres to protect a tortoise***

Also keep in mind ole Harry was not a millionaire prior to his US Senate job. Guess this is the real reason for becoming a career politician!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at April 12, 2014 04:26 PM (baL2B)

186 Fed ran 138 cattle to death with helicopters They were dying from broken hearts about their seditious owners regardless.

Posted by: Alaskan Wolf Protector at April 12, 2014 04:28 PM (wu/TK)

187 I watched the Bundy saga on live feed all day. Basicly the sheriff came out of his week in hiding to tell Bundy that the feds were going to leave. Bundy told the visibly shaking Sheriff he had one hour to disarm the feds and bring their weapons in. The sheriff left. The hour passed. Bundy then told everyone time was up, lets go get the cows. A crowd of about 300 got into their cars and went to where the cows were relaxing and the BLM told the crowd of to stop or they would shoot. The crowd closed the gap so they said "hold on we'll have the cows up here in a half hour" then all of them piled into 80 vehicles and hauled ass out the back way. Cops blocked traffic on the highway so they could make their getaway without having to merge.

Posted by: UWP at April 12, 2014 04:28 PM (pf+hU)

188 186 Seditious? Really? Explain please.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 12, 2014 04:29 PM (ojnk6)

189 I thing Alaskan Wolf was being facetious.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:31 PM (qJPSp)

190 Posted by: UWP at April 12, 2014 08:28 PM (pf+hU)

nice

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 04:31 PM (8lmkt)

191 Bullseye.

Posted by: Alaskan Wolf Protector at April 12, 2014 04:33 PM (wu/TK)

192 Some commenters are sarcasm-blind. And sometimes that someone is me.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:34 PM (qJPSp)

193 let's go get the cows . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 12, 2014 04:34 PM (8lmkt)

194 Posted by: EC at April 12, 2014 07:52 PM (doBIb) I think it was thunderb who had a good point about how to tell if they're really done or just regrouping. Apparently the "no-fly" zone was scheduled to be in effect until the middle of May. If they cancel it, chances are decent they've seen the light, if it's still in effect though that family had better watch their backs carefully.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 12, 2014 04:34 PM (GDulk)

195 So when will a modern Wat the Tyler march upon Sen. Harry 'Dingbat' Reid's office?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 12, 2014 04:35 PM (/8So2)

196 Not going to lie. The whole Bundy saga has been one of the more exciting events I can recall. Of course, exciting often means dangerous which often means tragic. There is a reason that living in interesting times is considered a curse in China (at least, that is the way the story is told, I have no idea if it's true).

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:36 PM (qJPSp)

197 I have driven east on the us 40 for years. Ever see the exit for Amboy? I always wanted to go there. In my feeble mind I alway's thought I would find Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes. A journey to the center of my mind. Ya, look that up.

Posted by: US 66 at April 12, 2014 04:37 PM (hqVUe)

198 UWP...I did not see the entire day, but watched and waited for the outcome the last two hours. My father had cattle. I have cheered for baby cows since my first rodeo at age four (I stood up and loudly protested the cowboy's chasing the calves and yelled, "Run baby cow, run" per my parents. I have always been a rebel).

The cows died of stress of the helicopter round-up, heat, and probably lack of water, plus being used to "free range" vs corralled by the BLM as domestic terrorists....when the real terrorists on the Mexican border are given water stations! But I digress...they can build a fence, pronto, when they feel like it, can't they?

If you cannot tell this entire thing pisses me off. And may God bless the Americans who stood up to tyranny today. Again, don't trust me, but read the facts not what the media is stating about Bundy. Also, again, read the facts about the land encroachment and theft for the last twenty years as J. Zane Walley reported prior to his massive stroke in 2004 (google his name...as when I saw Bundy's name in the press I remembered reading some stuff about this years ago that Walley wrote). xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at April 12, 2014 04:37 PM (baL2B)

199 Didn't Wat Tyler's Peasant Revolt get put down when he was killed by Henry de Despenser during negotiations with the newly crowned Teen King? I'm sorry Anna, but if someone goes after Reid, I want them to be associated with a more successful effort.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:38 PM (qJPSp)

200 I vaguely remember the left foaming at the mouth over the monstrosity of Palin hunting predators via whirlybird.

Posted by: Hoof in Mouth Disease at April 12, 2014 04:38 PM (wu/TK)

201 194 I had thought all along today that this is just Round 1. However, it was pointed out that folks were beginning to question the Searchlight Pederast's role as well as his Son in all this, and that may have been a major factor in getting them to retreat.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 12, 2014 04:40 PM (ojnk6)

202 >>> let's go get the cows . . . Let's walk down and get them all.

Posted by: fluffy at April 12, 2014 04:40 PM (Ua6T/)

203 Slap , he should be good I think. I have uverse and never miss a pro run it's cool he will love it.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 04:41 PM (Q8vlx)

204 I watched the Bundy saga on live feed all day. Basicly the sheriff came out of his week in hiding to tell Bundy that the feds were going to leave. Bundy told the visibly shaking Sheriff he had one hour to disarm the feds and bring their weapons in. The sheriff left. The hour passed. Bundy then told everyone time was up, lets go get the cows. *** If this is true, I don't like the sound of it. Not one little bit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 04:41 PM (DmNpO)

205 "Slap , he should be good I think. I have uverse and never miss a pro run it's cool he will love it." Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 08:41 PM (Q8vlx) *tip O' the cap*, sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 04:42 PM (lq3Ak)

206 "Let's walk down and get them all." Posted by: fluffy at April 12, 2014 08:40 PM (Ua6T/) HaHaHah! I actually spit water on that one!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 12, 2014 04:43 PM (lq3Ak)

207 When I started following it this morning I noticed some pretty credible comments from some people on the Internets talking about loading up and going there today. My suspicion is that the NSA or whoever saw this and thought - shit, there's like 10,000 people going to converge onto us this weekend. We need to GTFO now. Also supposedly Fox reported traffic was backed up all the way to Vegas with people headed there.

Posted by: UWP at April 12, 2014 04:44 PM (pf+hU)

208 so anyway, in a rare break from my usual, I'm actually watching the Darlington race. I haven't watched NASCAR in years, I love the in car cameras. It troubles me that the drivers look to be encased in a "exo-skeleton". doG, I'm old enough to remember seeing Davey Allison smoking a cigarette whilst driving down the front straight at Daytona on Wide World of Sports...

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 12, 2014 04:44 PM (kKdYS)

209 Actually, our own beloved garrett loves to poop on Sarah Palin's hunting.

Posted by: Soothie at April 12, 2014 04:44 PM (5c3Xp)

210 New thread alert!

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at April 12, 2014 04:45 PM (qJPSp)

211 No matter what you think about the situation, Mr.Bundy and his supporters used a cartridge box veto of the whole shebang.

My guess is that will be a feature instead of a bug in the future.

Posted by: GMB (et al) at April 12, 2014 04:47 PM (nkPV9)

212 >>> I actually spit water on that one! That will help to wipe the dust off of it :--)

Posted by: fluffy at April 12, 2014 04:47 PM (Ua6T/)

213 Slap I hope it works I am pretty sure his isp is one of the providers that will allow him to watch this. I'm off to watch qualifying right now on the roku.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 04:48 PM (Q8vlx)

214 Well I was thinking of the whole concept of peasants en masse on the move storming a center of power. Or we could talk in Les Mis terms. Or the mob scene from Battleship Potemkin.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 12, 2014 04:48 PM (/8So2)

215 If this is true, I don't like the sound of it.

Not one little bit.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 12, 2014 08:41 PM (DmNpO)

It is true the cowboys were told by BLM they were going to shoot to kill if they did not back off. It is true that some yahoo from Nevada told Utah ranchers to "have funeral plans" if they came to the Bundy ranch. With that and 80 plus cars and men with guns/vests and helmets, I'd say they had considered deadly force until either the Reid story backed them off or the fact that no matter how much cell feed they cut it was being recorded and witnessed by a growing group of Americans.

It was either kill them all or regroup...and that is what I think they have done. I do not think this is over. Right now, in DC, the WH and a legal team are madly figuring out how to win this. For the desert tortoise, who I will now, forevermore, link with the name Reid. He has been quietly making money off the backs of these Nevadans for as long as he has been in office...like a desert tortoise, but a scavenger like an opossum.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at April 12, 2014 04:48 PM (baL2B)

216 16 Why are they trading paint with the wall? Posted by: Boss Moss Its called a Darlington stripe. Thank you

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at April 12, 2014 04:49 PM (baiNQ)

217 Harry Reid is a fucking locust, DDT is theonly cure. He is three months away from the peanut farm.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 12, 2014 04:51 PM (Q8vlx)

218 Moo-lon labe.

This! Is! Nevada!

Posted by: heard at the Bundy Ranch at April 12, 2014 04:51 PM (08jH8)

219 Here's the recap from the standoff. http://youtu.be/_tVq7ymI_4s

Posted by: UWP at April 12, 2014 04:53 PM (pf+hU)

220 214 Well I was thinking of the whole concept of peasants en masse on the move storming a center of power. Or we could talk in Les Mis terms. Or the mob scene from Battleship Potemkin.

We're evil conservatives. Aren't we supposed to be thinking in terms of the charge at the climax of Birth of a Nation?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 12, 2014 05:07 PM (XO6WW)

221 Tonight would be a most excellent night for an "early" ONT. just sayin'...

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 12, 2014 05:09 PM (kKdYS)

222 Love the NASCAR thread, wasn't able to get in earlier and now I find it's all the other sport crap I don't give a shit about you can get anywhere on the goddamned planet.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at April 12, 2014 07:36 PM (dZGNV)

223 Kevin Harvick first pole to checkers winner at Darlington in 24 races. Don't care for him personally but he had the best car and persevered through three late cautions to win. Dale Earnhardt Jr. had a good shot. My driver Kyle Busch should probably have wrecked his car earlier for any chance to win, he loves beat up cars. The thing about NASCAR I missed until I got older is it really is an all out team effort coupled with good luck and strategy that determines who wins and win the modern rules you can't rule out folks even if they lose a lap or even two early they can gamble and come back.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at April 12, 2014 07:46 PM (dZGNV)

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