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April 11, 2014

Oh Boy: NSA Said to Have "Exploited" Heartbleed Flaw for Years
— Ace

So first of all, here are the passwords you'll need to change to protect yourself from (further?) intrusion due to the "Heartbleed" glitch.

This bug -- or is it a feature? -- permits people to hack into your accounts.

The man who inserted this bit of faulty (?) code says he did not do so deliberately.

Meanwhile, the NSA is said to have been using the "Heartbleed" exploit for its own purposes.

The U.S. National Security Agency knew for at least two years about a flaw in the way that many websites send sensitive information, now dubbed the Heartbleed bug, and regularly used it to gather critical intelligence, two people familiar with the matter said.
The NSAÂ’s decision to keep the bug secret in pursuit of national security interests threatens to renew the rancorous debate over the role of the governmentÂ’s top computer experts.
Heartbleed appears to be one of the biggest glitches in the InternetÂ’s history, a flaw in the basic security of as many as two-thirds of the worldÂ’s websites. Its discovery and the creation of a fix by researchers five days ago prompted consumers to change their passwords...
Putting the Heartbleed bug in its arsenal, the NSA was able to obtain passwords and other basic data that are the building blocks of the sophisticated hacking operations at the core of its mission, but at a cost. Millions of ordinary users were left vulnerable to attack from other nationsÂ’ intelligence arms and criminal hackers.
Â“It flies in the face of the agencyÂ’s comments that defense comes first,Â” said Jason Healey, director of the cyber statecraft initiative at the Atlantic Council and a former Air Force cyber officer. Â“They are going to be completely shredded by the computer security community for this.Â”

This is scary. I'm not even so much bothered by the NSA itself preserving a backdoor into my private stuff. I always figured they could do that anyway, if they wanted.

But they've also exposed everyone to criminal hacking and even compromise by foreign intelligence services.

What the hell. What the unholy hell.

Thanks to @theh2.

Posted by: Ace at 11:16 AM | Comments (264)
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1 Well, it's as if they don't care about things like that but are collecting for domestic political purposes.

Posted by: ejo at April 11, 2014 11:17 AM (GXvSO)

2 Yeah, I remember those "I love my country but I fear my government" shirts, too.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 11, 2014 11:18 AM (qyfb5)

3 Okay, tech morons need to come forward and tell us what this one is about. Is it only Linux? Only servers? Where should I be changing my passwords?

Posted by: joncelli at April 11, 2014 11:18 AM (RD7QR)

>>>This is scary. I'm not even so much bothered by the NSA itself preserving a backdoor into my private stuff. I always figured they could do that anyway, if they wanted.

But they've also exposed everyone to criminal hacking and even compromise by foreign intelligence services.<<<

No no no, we're the victims.

Posted by: the NSA at April 11, 2014 11:19 AM (08jH8)

5 Remember when we used to think that the American government had our backs? Good times.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 11, 2014 11:20 AM (8ZskC)

6 That doggoned Bush!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2014 11:21 AM (AaZet)

7 Pretty sure we're the victims here. Not quite sure how yet. Still pretty sure, though.

Posted by: IRS at April 11, 2014 11:21 AM (ZPrif)

8 So if you've ever considered running for office, all your porn downloads will bubble to the surface just in time to defeat you if the NSA or its political minders think you are a threat.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2014 11:21 AM (o+SC1)

9 From here on out, the candidate who puts forth a plan for reducing the size of the federal government is the one who gets my vote. Obamacare, the NSA, F&F, ... all of it is just symptomatic of a federal government that's too ckufing big for its britches. It needs to be small enough that bullshit such as this cannot be hidden among a web of bureaucracy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 11:21 AM (DmNpO)

10
OKCupid

Yes Yes Yes Yes

"We, like most of the Internet, were stunned that such a serious bug has existed for so long and was so widespread."

Oh, what a shame...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 11, 2014 11:21 AM (kdS6q)

11 The NSA spies on you out of love, wingnuts.

Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at April 11, 2014 11:22 AM (8ZskC)

12 Stealing your shit > national security

Every time.

Posted by: EC at April 11, 2014 11:22 AM (GQ8sn)

13 There is not one major thing that this administration has done that is not corrupt and/or criminal and/or or contemptible. We will not find out the sheet scope of this until way after Obama leaves office-if ever.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2014 11:23 AM (XyM/Y)

14 heartbleed affects anything running openssl linux, windows, routers, switches, cell phones everything people need to compartmentalize their passwords. Use a unique 16+ character password for every account you have

Posted by: Chris at April 11, 2014 11:23 AM (WjMgb)

15 Not to fear! Hugh Hewitt assures us the NSA's universal spying is ok because they have training.

Top. Men.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 11, 2014 11:23 AM (5mtBD)

16 I am sure that the intent wasn't malicious. It's all good.

Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 11, 2014 11:24 AM (jucos)

17
Remember when we used to think that the American government had our backs?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

The only way the government can protect you from cyberterrorism is to allow cyberterrorism. For years.

Here, look at this powerpoint presentation we ginned up over lunch....

Posted by: The NSA

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 11, 2014 11:24 AM (kdS6q)

18 Your bleedin' heart, will tell on youuuu.

Posted by: zombie Patsy Cline at April 11, 2014 11:24 AM (QupBk)

19 Thanks Chris. Looks like I'm going to have to invest in some kind of password minder whether I want to or not.

Posted by: joncelli at April 11, 2014 11:24 AM (RD7QR)

20 its easy to exploit now too, even metasploit (popular hacking tool) makes it almost point and click

Posted by: Chris at April 11, 2014 11:24 AM (WjMgb)

21 people need to compartmentalize their passwords. Use a unique 16+ character password for every account you have I always use EojNedib. Ooops. Pretend you never saw that.

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 11, 2014 11:25 AM (8ZskC)

22 Shut up.

Posted by: Your Betters at the NSA [/i] at April 11, 2014 11:25 AM (O7Q1u)

23 At least Amazon wasn't affected. And I don't use most of those other sites. I do have to change just a few passwords though...

Posted by: Citizen X at April 11, 2014 11:25 AM (7ObY1)

24 If youre looking for a password vault I recommend using lastpass.com combined with a physical token from yubico.com Fairly robust and secure

Posted by: Chris at April 11, 2014 11:25 AM (WjMgb)

25 What exactly do they get hacking into your Facebook acct? Your farmville animal count?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 11, 2014 11:26 AM (bCEmE)

While the NSA was exploiting this bug, what do you think Russia's own FSB was doing?

MI-whatever

Mossad

France's DGSE

China

Japan

Germany

IRAN

Everybody with a half-assed intelligence service?

Posted by: rd at April 11, 2014 11:27 AM (D+lxs)

27 If youre looking for a password vault I recommend using lastpass.com combined with a physical token from yubico.com Fairly robust and secure

Posted by: Chris at April 11, 2014 03:25 PM (WjMgb)

Secure? How do we really know anymore? The only thing secure against the NSA would probably be something the Russians or Chinese cooked up.

Posted by: EC at April 11, 2014 11:27 AM (GQ8sn)

28 They told me that if I voted for Mitt Romney that the police state would be activated, and damn it.... they were right.

Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 11, 2014 11:28 AM (jucos)

29 If youre looking for a password vault I recommend using lastpass.com combined with a physical token from yubico.com Fairly robust and secure Posted by: Chris at April 11, 2014 03:25 PM (WjMgb) --- Word. I love lastpass except i use it with Authenticator. I dont even **know** 75% of my passwords anymore....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 11:28 AM (nELVU)

30 @3 - it's anything that depends on OpenSSL as released from 2012 forward. This is the rare case where Windows servers and lazy Unix admins are in the clear. IIS and related Windows products are not vulnerable, and if you're a Unix sysadmin and you haven't updated your OpenSSL or related products in a couple years you're not vulnerable to this one though you might have exposed yourself to other holes. Not all Windows services are safe, if you're running a Windows web, mail, VPN or other SSL-secured service that's not all Microsoft code then it may include OpenSSL security in which case you've got an issue to deal with. This is a tough one to exploit in some respects, it requires that you keep hitting a vulnerable server repeatedly and sampling the 64K of memory you get back for something that might be useful. The only thing that makes that easier is that almost no one's been logging or setting up IDS signatures for the kind of TCP/IP packets that would let them see whether anyone's been hitting them for this.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2014 11:28 AM (o+SC1)

31 This is the answer to the question that Linux fags have been asking for years: "Why should I pay for an SSL certificate when OpenSSL is free and I can just sign my own, plus it'll be more secure than anything you'd get sold anyway, huh? HUH?" ^^^THAT^^^ is why, Poindexter. Now get back in the fuckin locker.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2014 11:28 AM (CJjw5)

32 @EC lastpass with yubico uses 2 factor authentication. You cant access your account without physically plugging the token into your machine. Its fairly secure. But theres always ways around it At this point, just assume your digital life is compromised and the gov knows everything

Posted by: Chris at April 11, 2014 11:28 AM (WjMgb)

33 If you think any of your communications is secure, you are a fool. Always presume there are ears and eyes hearing and seeing what you are doing. After all, this IS 1984.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 11, 2014 11:29 AM (bb5+k)

34 At this point, just assume your digital life is compromised and the gov knows everything

Posted by: Chris at April 11, 2014 03:28 PM (WjMgb)

Yeah, that's the takeaway from this story. There is nothing that isn't already archived by our govt.

Posted by: EC at April 11, 2014 11:31 AM (GQ8sn)

35 Alternate post title: obama's NSA: Oops, Our Bad

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 11:31 AM (Ja56Y)

36 One further remark is that many commercial firewalls, IDS/IPS systems, and other frontline network protection systems use OpenSSL code, so even name-brand boxes with five and six figure pricetags on them can be vulnerable.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2014 11:32 AM (o+SC1)

37 At this point, just assume your digital life is compromised and the gov knows everything Posted by: Chris at April 11, 2014 03:28 PM (WjMgb) Um, so I have to explain to them about the furry sites? I mean, it was RESEARCH! I was just gathering data about, uh, furriness!

Posted by: joncelli at April 11, 2014 11:33 AM (RD7QR)

38 Gah, I understand the significance, but I'm too lazy to change all my passwords...

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at April 11, 2014 11:34 AM (FA3Z7)

39 At this point, just assume your digital life is compromised and the gov knows everything

On the plus side, the next time someone calls my mom to tell her I hurt their feewings on Facebook (OMG! GLUTEN JOKES ARE LIKE THE HOLOCAUST!!), I can blame it on the feds. *srednop*

Posted by: HR at April 11, 2014 11:34 AM (ZKzrr)

40 fun fact most dating sites including ashleymadison are still vulnerable.. If you were evil, you could login and steal creds. I wonder how many congressman are on there

Posted by: Chris at April 11, 2014 11:34 AM (WjMgb)

41 The REAL victim here is the NSA, and the McCarthyite witchhunt the American people have waged against it. Or something.

Posted by: Crim the Adequate at April 11, 2014 11:34 AM (whcu2)

42 You can all assume that those videos you posted to that password-protected site of Alex Wagner sucking you off in the parking garage are probably the property of the NSA now. If you're lucky they'll be on CNN tomorrow and you'll have your fifteen minutes of trou-dropped fame. Or in two weeks, since that seems to be about their timeline for broadcasting breaking news.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2014 11:35 AM (o+SC1)

43 You can all assume that those videos you posted to that password-protected site of ~~Alex~~ Jill Wagner sucking you off in the parking garage are probably the property of the NSA now.

Fixed!

Posted by: EC at April 11, 2014 11:36 AM (GQ8sn)

Again...

NOT instruction manuals.....

Posted by: Orwell and Rand at April 11, 2014 11:36 AM (DErq5)

45 Just assume Obama spies on everybody except for actual muslim terrorists.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 11:36 AM (ZPrif)

46 cabbage Sorry, the password must contain more than 8 characters boiled cabbage Sorry, the password must contain at least one numerical character 1 boiled cabbage Sorry, the password cannot contain blank spaces 50fuckingboiledcabbages Sorry, the password must have at least one upper-case character 50FUCKINGBoiledCabbages Sorry, the password cannot contain more than one consecutive upper-case character 50FuckingBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourAssIfYouDon'tGiveMeAccessImmediately Sorry, the password cannot contain punctuation marks 50FuckingBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourAssIfYouDontGiveMeAccessImmediatelyYouFuckingFuckwad Sorry, that password is already in use.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 11, 2014 11:36 AM (7ObY1)

47 so, the NSA has those pics of Mrs Abdullah from A While Ago...

oh, well; enjoy

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah at April 11, 2014 11:36 AM (JyjXt)

48 The good folks at the TOR Project caution you to hold off on your kiddie-porn and drug buy internet surfing for the next few days until this Heartbleed thing is all patched up: http://tinyurl.com/moddfra

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2014 11:36 AM (CJjw5)

49 8 I'll put my downloads up against anyone's for both quality and taste.

Posted by: BS Inc at April 11, 2014 11:36 AM (plNej)

50 All this spying and we still couldn't stop the Boston bombing or figure out Crimea was going to be steamrolled.

Posted by: EC at April 11, 2014 11:37 AM (GQ8sn)

51 And that's why i always pay in cash

Posted by: Admiral Adama at April 11, 2014 11:37 AM (SO2Q8)

52 OK, who dunnit?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 11, 2014 11:37 AM (ojnk6)

53 So.... we thought that cyber security would of importance to the government???? The same govt that used "1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1" as a nuclear launch code??? THAT goverment??

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 11:37 AM (nELVU)

54 This is why we have a fourth amendment. This is why the NSA needs to be disbanded. It is both violating its original mission and violating the constitution it is bound to uphold.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 11, 2014 11:38 AM (+webi)

55 Embiggening is not to be rewarded. To the barrel CX.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 11:38 AM (DmNpO)

56 The NSA is doing the Lord's work tea baggers.

Posted by: Peter King(NY) at April 11, 2014 11:38 AM (thLL8)

57 All this spying and we still couldn't stop the Boston bombing or figure out Crimea was going to be steamrolled. No, but we caught Republican Chiristian Conservative Tea Party Favorite Vance McCallister in the act of adultery!

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 11:38 AM (Ja56Y)

58 There's already a patch for Heartbleed, but Pixy Misa can't keep Citizen X's comment from blowing out the margins with a fucking 8 year lead time. Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha, biznatch.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2014 11:38 AM (CJjw5)

So if you've ever considered running for office, all your porn downloads will bubble to the surface just in time to defeat you if the NSA or its political minders think you are a threat.

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You're going to need a LOT of surface...FYI

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at April 11, 2014 11:39 AM (SO2Q8)

60 Citizen X .... please report to the analog barrel Citizen X..... please report to the analog barrel.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 11:39 AM (nELVU)

61 @48 - yeah, you can bet that a whole lot of TOR users aren't going to be posting anything critical of the current administration for the next year or so.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2014 11:39 AM (o+SC1)

62 Does this only affect users to link their various accounts to Twitter, Facebook, etc.?

I think I'm safe as I don't really integrate my accounts in that way.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 11, 2014 11:39 AM (UypUQ)

63
So upon discovering this bug, the NSA had 2 options:

1) Notify the OpenSSL development group of the bug so they could patch it.
2) Keep the bug secret so they could spy more effectively.

They chose the second one. This means that they thought they could serve the American people better by spying on them rather than fixing a severe software vulnerability that affected almost everyone.

I'm not a huge NSA-hater, but this really tells me that it is a rotten organization.

Posted by: dan-O at April 11, 2014 11:39 AM (D0bIN)

64 Rancher on Hannity at the top of the hour.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 11:40 AM (ZshNr)

65 Quitcherbitchin 'bout the small screen size on yer cheap smart phone and get a tablet ya misers.

Posted by: Tremblay the Poor at April 11, 2014 11:40 AM (UfmCv)

66 It's a good thing we have the Patriot Act. Who ever said that patriotism is the last refruge of scoundrels should have been born during this period in our history.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 11, 2014 11:40 AM (BZAd3)

67 I've pretty much always assumed TOR and proxy sites like hidemyass are run by the NSA.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 11:40 AM (ZPrif)

68 All your bitcoins are belong to us

Posted by: NSA at April 11, 2014 11:41 AM (SO2Q8)

69 I didn't know about this until I read it in the newspapers.

Posted by: President Obama at April 11, 2014 11:41 AM (yFb77)

70 Fuck that shit, I closed every single italic. Every fucking one. All italics were closed.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 11, 2014 11:41 AM (7ObY1)

71 45 Just assume Obama spies on everybody except for actual muslim terrorists. Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 03:36 PM (ZPrif) More like he spies FOR Muslim terrorists. Iran and the Palestinians come to mind.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 11, 2014 11:41 AM (bb5+k)

72 I guess we don't have to beat around the bush anymore over whom we consider the enemy, do we?

Posted by: NSA at April 11, 2014 11:41 AM (FcR7P)

73 The only account I'm worried about is my bank account, that thankfully asked for additional pins and security questions on each login.

They cna go hack everything else. I could care less if people get into my HotAir account.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 11, 2014 11:41 AM (UypUQ)

74 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2014 03:28 PM (CJjw5)

Doing an Alec Baldwin homage?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 11:42 AM (JS0vr)

75 I am now physically ill over my tax return still not refunded to me. It makes me sick they can do this. I want my money. I need my money.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 11:42 AM (Ja56Y)

76 The security hole ration is going up.

Posted by: Mega at April 11, 2014 11:42 AM (hHFOx)

77 Thanks to, I assume, NDH for the unembiggening.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 11, 2014 11:42 AM (ojnk6)

78 All italics were closed. Posted by: Citizen X at April 11, 2014 03:41 PM (7ObY1) ---- Yes..they...were.... But you blew out the margins with the long string text. Double the barrel time for "insubordination".

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 11:42 AM (nELVU)

McCarthyite witchhunt

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Look i'm just trying to protect the children from those evil vaccines...

Posted by: Jenny McCarthy at April 11, 2014 11:42 AM (SO2Q8)

80 All italics were closed. Posted by: Citizen X at April 11, 2014 03:41 PM (7ObY1) You can't bluff your way out of the barrel. You know that.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 11, 2014 11:42 AM (BZAd3)

81 If you have nothing to hide this should not concern you.

Posted by: Peter King(NY) at April 11, 2014 11:43 AM (thLL8)

82 Doing an Alec Baldwin homage? Fuck that cocksucker. So essentially, yes. Yes, I am.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2014 11:44 AM (CJjw5)

I'll put my downloads up against anyone's for both quality and taste.

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Where do you get lickable downloads? Do i need a special printer?

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 11, 2014 11:44 AM (SO2Q8)

84 I'm not a huge NSA-hater, but this really tells me that it is a rotten organization. Posted by: dan-O at April 11, 2014 03:39 PM (D0bIN) If it's like the CIA, it gets it's staffing from the Ivy league schools. Yeah, rotten to the core.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 11, 2014 11:44 AM (bb5+k)

85 75 I am now physically ill over my tax return still not refunded to me. It makes me sick they can do this. I want my money. I need my money. Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 03:42 PM (Ja56Y) I'm sorry about that, Sooth. Hopefully they're just swamped and it's coming.

Posted by: joncelli at April 11, 2014 11:45 AM (RD7QR)

86 45 Just assume Obama spies on everybody except for actual muslim terrorists. -- Unless they are overly fond of tea. Then we've got them

Posted by: Your IRS victims at April 11, 2014 11:45 AM (SO2Q8)

87 I should be terrified, but man I'm laughing at Linux nerds. I've always hated them and their "Works for me!" attitude.

Posted by: Shoot Me at April 11, 2014 11:45 AM (EQcfE)

88 >> I'm not even so much bothered by the NSA itself preserving a backdoor into my private stuff. Phrasing!

Posted by: Andy at April 11, 2014 11:45 AM (2OaXr)

89 I don't care about the criminal hacking or foreign intelligence services. They are unlikely to hurt me as much as our own government can because there is nowhere else to turn to as a recourse when Uncle Sam grabs hold of you. Credit cards are relatively easy to fix, and it only helps us for foreign governments to waste their time trolling for cat porn.

For all of the damage a criminal or foreign spy could do they can't put me in prison or ruin me with impunity like the feds can if they take a notion to. And since the government is just the militant arm of the Democratic party these days abuses of power are the norm rather than the exception.

Posted by: Thatch at April 11, 2014 11:46 AM (qYvEa)

90 Rancher on Hannity at the top of the hour. *** I listened to his interview with Dana Loesch yesterday and, while I agree with him in principle, I think he's making the wrong argument here. He's arguing against federal lands in the state of Nevada as his justification for not paying grazing fees. That's the big picture and, right now, he needs to be arguing the immediate threats: the overreach of government in stifling an industry and way of life in the protection of a ckufing tortoise which, IIUC, eats cow poop anyway. And, he should be raising hell about the massive targeting of his ranch which now includes as many as 8 helicopters, snipers, and hundreds of officers. And, if they have killed the cattle as some have reported, he needs to be screaming bloody murder about the waste for vengeance's sake.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 11:46 AM (DmNpO)

91 [edited to reduce string length -- ace]

Punchline needs work.

Posted by: HR at April 11, 2014 11:46 AM (ZKzrr)

92 Big Country goes boom. (UFC fight)

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 11:46 AM (ZPrif)

93 Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 03:37 PM (nELVU)

Actually, I think it was 0000000000000.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 11:47 AM (JS0vr)

The good folks at the TOR Project caution you to hold off on your kiddie-porn and drug buy internet surfing for the next few days until this Heartbleed thing is all patched up:

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there goes 2nd quarter GDP

Posted by: commerace dept. at April 11, 2014 11:47 AM (SO2Q8)

95 It was an act of love.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 11, 2014 11:47 AM (DrWcr)

96 I wonder if heartbleed is what was used to unencrypt logins and thus hack the TOR anonymity project a while back.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 11, 2014 11:47 AM (IbzLj)

97 Sooo an unclouded tag can result in a privacy hack??

Posted by: Sunny at April 11, 2014 11:47 AM (71nnc)

98 I use LastPass, so each password is different, and can be generated by the software so that it is one of those weird ones that we should all use but never do.

I have one complex master password that I change frequently.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2014 11:47 AM (QFxY5)

99 I am now physically ill over my tax return still not refunded to me. It makes me sick they can do this. I want my money. I need my money. *** I hope you get it. Did you catch the earlier conversation about the feds seizing tax returns to payoff the decades-old debts of dead parents?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 11:47 AM (DmNpO)

100 I'm no computer expert, but it seems like every backdoor the NSA put in would be a possible avenue of attack for others. Worth noting they've done this before. They dumbed down one of the crypto algorithms. Someone else could probably explain better.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 11:47 AM (HDwDg)

101 Um, no, actually. If NSA or any other arm of the Gov wants to read anything in, on, or about my computer, let 'em get a warrant. That's why we set up that special super- secret kangaroo court, innit ? Zero sympathy here for anyone who thinks that obeying the Constitution is inconvenient or too much like work.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 11, 2014 11:48 AM (jNNWD)

102 I think I was the first to post with "The NSA" sock and call this not a bug but a feature.

Posted by: blaster at April 11, 2014 11:48 AM (4+AaH)

103 Und ve shall use ze public as bait, because everysing ve do is in ze public's best interest.

Posted by: NSA Brain Trust at April 11, 2014 11:48 AM (Iyg03)

104 88 I should be terrified, but man I'm laughing at Linux nerds. I've always hated them and their "Works for me!" attitude. Posted by: Shoot Me at April 11, 2014 03:45 PM (EQcfE) I use Linux all the time. But there are so many arrogant, elitist assholes in that community.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 11, 2014 11:49 AM (+webi)

105 Ve shall let our fellow citizens suffer vile ve locate ze bad guys.

Posted by: NSA Brain Trust at April 11, 2014 11:49 AM (Iyg03)

106 The NSA - Backdooring You Since 1952

Posted by: Insomniac at April 11, 2014 11:49 AM (DrWcr)

107 Yeah, I saw that. That's what has me in twists right now. obama's IRS can use any excuse to keep our money and there's nothing we can do about it.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 11:49 AM (Ja56Y)

108 Um, no, actually. If NSA or any other arm of the Gov wants to read anything in, on, or about my computer, let 'em get a warrant. That's why we set up that special super- secret kangaroo court, innit ? Zero sympathy here for anyone who thinks that obeying the Constitution is inconvenient or too much like work. We now have your IP. It will be added to our drone list.

Posted by: Peter King(NY) at April 11, 2014 11:50 AM (thLL8)

109 Yeah, I saw that. That's what has me in twists right now. obama's IRS can use any excuse to keep our money and there's nothing we can do about it. Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 03:49 PM (Ja56Y) Except take more exemptions.

Posted by: blaster at April 11, 2014 11:50 AM (4+AaH)

110 I don't think I'm affected. I don't really do much over the internet. My banking isn't affected so I have no worries there. The only one I saw on that list was Amazon and I don't remember my password to that. Haven't used that account in ages.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2014 11:50 AM (Apfwx)

111 108
Yeah, I saw that. That's what has me in twists right now. obama's IRS can use any excuse to keep our money and there's nothing we can do about it.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 03:49 PM (Ja56Y)

You could *snerk* go to *giggle* Tax Court...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ahem. Sorry.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 11, 2014 11:50 AM (DrWcr)

112 92 [edited to reduce string length -- ace]

Punchline needs work.
-- brevity is the soul of wit

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2014 11:50 AM (SO2Q8)

113 I agree NDH. He's obviously, and understandably, using this attention to make a global point, and I wish he'd shrink the argument down to the BLM's blatant attempt to harass him and his livelihood out of existence.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 11:50 AM (ZshNr)

114 he needs to be screaming bloody murder about the waste for vengeance's sake. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 03:46 PM (DmNpO) Yes, he needs to be making an emotional argument. Those work much better than reasoned arguments anyway. Beyond that, i've read commentary suggesting this whole thing is because Harry Reid's cronies and kin want to acquire those lands to create a Federally funded Solar Power Farm. I find this accusation to be entirely too plausible.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 11, 2014 11:51 AM (bb5+k)

115 I use Linux all the time. But there are so many arrogant, elitist assholes in that community. Posted by: NWConservative at April 11, 2014 03:49 PM (+webi) ----------------------------- AHOY!!!

Posted by: I Love My Mac Because "It Just Works!" at April 11, 2014 11:51 AM (CJjw5)

116 Because, after all, von must break a few eggs to make ze omelet.

Posted by: NSA Brain Trust at April 11, 2014 11:51 AM (Iyg03)

117 What is it? CIA gets Yalies and NSA gets MIT's?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 11:51 AM (JS0vr)

118 That's exactly what I'm gonna do -- take more exemptions from now on. I'll owe obama's IRS rather than obama's IRS owing me.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 11:52 AM (Ja56Y)

119 The only one I saw on that list was Amazon and I don't remember my password to that. Haven't used that account in ages. Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2014 03:50 PM (Apfwx) Its "Soonaluvs69" Youre welcome.

Posted by: The NSA handler assigned to AoSHQ at April 11, 2014 11:52 AM (nELVU)

120 brevity is the soul of wit TLDR

Posted by: that guy at April 11, 2014 11:52 AM (fOLwM)

121 Apparently the only thing this administration is good at is spying on American citizens and IRS audits of Tea Party members. Oh, and preventing WWII veterans from visiting memorials during government shut down (the new HHS Sec. Burwell saw to that one! She is part of the team, y'all!). Oh, and much needed golf for the prancing pretender, and the big bang (retribution of wealth) costing American public tens of millions of dollars everytime the first grifters vacation or go on good-will tours.

Website working for Obamacare with statistics on who paid and if they already had insurance? Not so much. Please redirect to HHS per Jay Carney, Court Jester. Fast response to dying ambassador in Benghazi? Nope!Please refer to CIA, who has you refer to FBI, who has you refer to Anderson Cooper who found Ambassador Steven's diary in rubble. Correct reason for attack on Benghazi consulate within days? Nope! Please refer to obscure video touted by Susan Rice, Cankles, Obowow for three weeks vs British media reporting truth. Defending Russian invasion into Ukraine? Nope! Reset button. Putin is a bully-pants!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at April 11, 2014 11:52 AM (baL2B)

122 121 brevity is the soul of wit

TLDR

Posted by: that guy at April 11, 2014 03:52 PM (fOLwM)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Insomniac at April 11, 2014 11:52 AM (DrWcr)

123 Back in the day when "Pretty Good Privacy" was da stiz there was a big argument about how it was too good and nobody could crack it. Then there were 'export controls' put on software that could not be sold outside the US (as if that made a difference; buy it here, take with). And then it didn't matter any more. No one even said 'never mind'. The argument just stopped.

Posted by: Tremblay the Poor at April 11, 2014 11:52 AM (UfmCv)

124 the h2 ........ friday ...... back in a while .

Posted by: Mongo at April 11, 2014 11:53 AM (XWw96)

125 But there are so many arrogant, elitist assholes in that community.

Posted by: NWConservative at April 11, 2014 03:49 PM (+webi)

Apple-level assholishness?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2014 11:53 AM (QFxY5)

126
Fun fact: The Director of the National Security Agency is appointed by the President, but doesn't have to be confirmed by the Senate because shut up.

But he double hats as the head of The United States Cyber Command, and he has to be confirmed for that slot. And the Senate confirmed new appointee Admiral Michael S. Rogers on March 31 by --- all together now -- unanimous consent.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 11, 2014 11:53 AM (kdS6q)

127 meh, it's SSL, shit we used to exploit it in highschool for shits and giggles

Posted by: The Dude at April 11, 2014 11:54 AM (bStrg)

128 IIRC, the government snoops fought tooth and nail against PGP for years because they couldn't hack into it.

Said it would compromise national security.

So now they've helped compromise our National Commerce but that's okey dokey.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 11:54 AM (JS0vr)

129 Apple-level assholishness? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2014 03:53 PM (QFxY5) ---------------------------------- I didn't mind buying all new peripherals for my iPhone because this new Lightning connector is the bee's knees!

Posted by: I Love My Mac Because at April 11, 2014 11:54 AM (CJjw5)

130 Big Country still making waves as the fat mountain hippie in UFC. http://tinyurl.com/l4elcnt

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 11:55 AM (ZPrif)

131 ...unanimous consent Those words give me wood.

Posted by: Peter King(NY) at April 11, 2014 11:55 AM (thLL8)

132 The Rancher hasn't paid his grazing fees for 20 years. I think that we must consider this above everything else. I mean, what is the government supposed to do? Ignore it's own laws?...... Ok,.... even I couldn't say that with a straight face. The Federales wouldn't be there right now if the fees were paid.

Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 11, 2014 11:55 AM (jucos)

133 Posted by: I Love My Mac Because at April 11, 2014 03:54 PM (CJjw5) Mac is free from virus's, because Apple told me so. What do you mean "small user base security."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 11:55 AM (HDwDg)

134

Another good day. Got another question on the Podcast.

Self being validated

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 11, 2014 11:56 AM (SO2Q8)

135 Ever hear of Hana and Karl Koecher. They were czech, came here, got phds, jobs with the cia and were of course, commie spies. They got a lot of info out of CIA, Pentagon, and other fed employees at sex clubs. It never ceases to amaze me that so many traitors are crazy alcoholics and/or have messy our of control sex lives. I thought those were red flags? I remember the FBI agent in the Looming Tower. He had a wife and kids in NJ, a fiance in DC, a fiance in Chicago, and a fiance in NYC. His funeral was a riot.

Posted by: Rowan Atkinson at April 11, 2014 11:56 AM (8c12T)

136 The problem for NSA is that the only way to access restricted information is through exploits. If the report them , they lose the access.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at April 11, 2014 11:57 AM (AWmfW)

137 Big Country still making waves as the fat mountain hippie in UFC. http://tinyurl.com/l4elcnt Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 03:55 PM (ZPrif) ------------------------------------- Holy shit. Was that "Minotauro" that he just stretched out like new carpet?

Posted by: I Love My Mac Because at April 11, 2014 11:57 AM (CJjw5)

138 Apparently the rancher will be on for the entire 4 o'clock hour of Hannity's show. Guess we'll have an opportunity to judge his level of legitimacy vs. nuttiness after that much time.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 11:57 AM (ZshNr)

139

Rancher should have tied a sombrero to each head, and swore they were day-workers.

Problem. Solved.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2014 11:57 AM (i19tE)

140 What do you mean "small user base security."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 03:55 PM (HDwDg)

It's why most of us don't have VD.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2014 11:57 AM (QFxY5)

141 Schadenfreude! Get yer hot schadenfreude here!
http://is.gd/eLUPCA

Posted by: HR at April 11, 2014 11:57 AM (ZKzrr)

142 Okay. Done. I've changed my AosHQ password.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2014 11:57 AM (Apfwx)

143 This is a tough one to exploit in some respects, it requires that you keep hitting a vulnerable server repeatedly and sampling the 64K of memory you get back for something that might be useful. The only thing that makes that easier is that almost no one's been logging or setting up IDS signatures for the kind of TCP/IP packets that would let them see whether anyone's been hitting them for this.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2014 03:28 PM (o+SC1)

But wouldn't it show up like suspicions traffic if you monitor what's deviate from normal?

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at April 11, 2014 11:59 AM (AWmfW)

144 Ace's next poat will be: a) "Open Thread -- Knocking Off Early Today -- Kinda Sick" b) Lois Lerner c) Flight 370's mysterious ping d) Open Thread with cute animal pic

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 11:59 AM (Ja56Y)

145 I don't believe the NSA knew about this for 2 years. I don't believe their data collection is as extensive as popularly believed. I don't believe Ed Snowden revealed anything the regime didn't want revealed. I don't believe the IRS came clean about targeting conservatives for the sake of coming clean. What I do believe is that the regime brings "scandal" upon themselves because the subtext to it all is "WE ARE WATCHING YOU AND WE CAN MAKE YOUR LIFE HELL". In the end, I think its all bullshit.

Posted by: zant at April 11, 2014 12:00 PM (kp5cA)

146 Yep. Time for Big Nog to retire. Big Country has had the most unlikely career. He's a fat under-sized heavyweight. Should be a light heavyweight if he lost his gut. But he punches like a mule kicks.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:00 PM (ZPrif)

147 Good time for Rand Paul to do a filibuster, as long as he doesn't talk about Iraq.

Posted by: Shoot Me at April 11, 2014 12:00 PM (EQcfE)

148 I don't think the NSA really cares about security. I think they care about knowing everything.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 11, 2014 12:01 PM (MVGKx)

149 Haha my web servers are behind a load balancer that uses OpenSSL 1.0 BITCHEZ!!!!

Posted by: blaster at April 11, 2014 12:02 PM (4+AaH)

150 I don't believe Ed Snowden revealed anything the regime didn't want revealed. ^^ THIS

Posted by: blaster at April 11, 2014 12:03 PM (4+AaH)

151 I really can't stand his show, but if there are no sports on, I end up listening to it. He's not evil-bad, he's just saccharine-repetitive-bad.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:03 PM (ZshNr)

152 And the OpenSSL debacle is why you shouldn't blindly oatch all your software.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 11, 2014 12:03 PM (MVGKx)

153
Ace's next post will be:
Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable

e) Whatever Hotair's last post was...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 11, 2014 12:04 PM (kdS6q)

154 Apple-level assholishness? With fewer grooming habits

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 11, 2014 12:04 PM (WDySP)

155 But he punches like a mule kicks. So, to his rear?

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 11, 2014 12:04 PM (fOLwM)

156 Rancher should have tied a sombrero to each head, and swore they were day-workers. Problem. Solved. Posted by: Scogg ------------------ Possible thread winner.

Posted by: Eric 'The Red' Holder at April 11, 2014 12:04 PM (aDwsi)

157

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 04:03 PM (ZshNr)

only worthwhile sports show be it radio or tv is Dan Le Batard

Posted by: The Dude at April 11, 2014 12:04 PM (bStrg)

158 Every single aspect of our government is so far out of control now that there is absolutely no way we will ever gain control of it again without utterly destroying it, along with everyone involved in it.

The Sheryl Attkisson story in the sidebar is instructive. How many fucking years did she work on stories about Obama scandals and then just go along with it when the stories were spiked by CBS? The government owns the press, and someone owns the government and it sure as fuck isn't the American people.

Fuck it. Time to finish armoring up, find a bolt hole to run to, implement Family Security Plan A, and drop out of this fucking nightmare.

Ahem. Now, first I've gotta find that 5 million dollars I had lying around here so I can put my plans into place . . .

Posted by: Sharkman at April 11, 2014 12:04 PM (TM1p8)

159 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 11, 2014 03:57 PM (QFxY5) What yeah, but it's not a great theory of security for a computer OS

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 12:05 PM (HDwDg)

160 65 Quitcherbitchin 'bout the small screen size on yer cheap smart phone and get a tablet ya misers. Posted by: Tremblay the Poor at April 11, 2014 03:40 PM (UfmCv) How about you go blow a fucking dead Rino?

Posted by: NativeNH at April 11, 2014 12:06 PM (NWIlY)

161 >>> Rancher on Hannity at the top of the hour. Sigh, guess I will listen in. Is it bad when I find Hannity's radio show minions to be much more likeable and entertaining than him? Whomever decided to add them to the on-air roster was genius, they humanize him quite a bit. They should be on all the time.

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 12:06 PM (yRwC8)

162 DlB is a hoot.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:06 PM (ZshNr)

163 Schadenfreude! Get yer hot schadenfreude here! http://is.gd/eLUPCA Posted by: HR at April 11, 2014 03:57 PM (ZKzrr) --- Holy Shit.... that was..... depressing. And the comments???? I wanted to sooooo type into the comments "Leave Academia.... come to real world. We get results" ... but didnt. Those credentialed dolts have so insulated and cocooned themselves they have no relationship or bearing with reality at all.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 12:06 PM (nELVU)

164 See! http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=348414#c21999984 Not face sized spiders, I promise.

Posted by: blaster at April 11, 2014 12:06 PM (4+AaH)

165 and regularly used it to gather critical intelligence On whom? Pursuant to what statutory authority? I am unfamiliar with any provision that allows the transmission of the passwords to my everything to be hoovered up.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 11, 2014 12:06 PM (mf5HN)

166 speaking of NH... John Sununu has entered the race!

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:07 PM (Ja56Y)

167 133 The Rancher hasn't paid his grazing fees for 20 years. I think that we must consider this above everything else. I mean, what is the government supposed to do? Ignore it's own laws?...... Ok,.... even I couldn't say that with a straight face. The Federales wouldn't be there right now if the fees were paid. Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 11, 2014 03:55 PM (jucos) Maybe I have an incorrect understanding of this, but I recall another commenter mentioning that prior to Bill Clinton, there were no fees. The implication is that the man never did pay any fees, his family had been grazing cattle on that land continuously since the 1800s. If this is true, that is not the same thing as "hasn't paid his grazing fees for 20 years". It would seem that he contested the requirement to pay fees from the very outset, and therefore didn't pay them. Now if he agreed to pay fees, and paid them, that's a different thing, and it implies a much weaker case on his behalf.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 11, 2014 12:07 PM (bb5+k)

168 A great conspiracy theory. Obama's replacement at HHS for Siilybus, Sylvia Burwel, is really John Kerry in drag.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 11, 2014 12:07 PM (XUKZU)

169 He's on.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:08 PM (ZshNr)

170 Not face sized spiders, I promise. Posted by: blaster at April 11, 2014 04:06 PM (4+AaH) Cattle-sized spiders, on the other hand...

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 12:08 PM (yRwC8)

171 Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 04:06 PM (nELVU) Zombies? FFS, I told someone yesterday I felt stupid for going into Animal Research Ethics. At least my field is around something real.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 12:09 PM (HDwDg)

172 What the hell. What the unholy hell.

Yup. And just a piece of it with this bunch, i.e., Obamacare, foreign policy, race relations, national debt, enlarged and politicized gubmint agencies etc. The US is so boned by the shitstains in power.

Posted by: eureka! at April 11, 2014 12:09 PM (q7DBM)

173 >>>speaking of NH...
John Sununu has entered the race!
Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 04:07 PM (Ja56Y)<<<

Death by Sunu-snu.

Posted by: Femputer at April 11, 2014 12:10 PM (08jH8)

174 Spent the early morning changing the ones I can (those systems that actually fixed it). Still waiting on the other corporations. I can't believe how much online stuff I do. And, I do zero social site stuff. No Facebook, no Twitter, nothing. Just banking, assets management, email, streaming, and shopping. I haven't hit a store for clothes or shoes, or household stuff in a very long time. Nor makeup, because Clinique.com, etc. And, Amazon. They are the weakest it shows at the ssl security check site. (not Amazon) I still have a bunch to change, when possible. Luckily, too, we change our credit cards a lot. So the old ones are dead and closed accounts.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 11, 2014 12:10 PM (IXrOn)

175 Harvard University has a couple of animal psychology courses. Verily.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:10 PM (Ja56Y)

176 I agree NDH. He's obviously, and understandably, using this attention to make a global point, and I wish he'd shrink the argument down to the BLM's blatant attempt to harass him and his livelihood out of existence. *** He is THE LAST remaining rancher. They have succeeded in running off the rest.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:10 PM (DmNpO)

177 Of course, the solution to BLM abuse is for the feds to sell off the land. Why do the feds need to own the land anyway. Sell the land to the highest bidder, who then can, if he chooses, sell grazing access to nearby ranchers. Why do the Feds own 90% of Nevada anyway?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:10 PM (ZPrif)

178 It's the tortoise, damnit! Why can't you eco-h8ters understand that.

Posted by: A Snail Darter at April 11, 2014 12:10 PM (aDwsi)

179 See what I did there? You see, Harvard's motto is Veritas, which means truth.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:11 PM (Ja56Y)

180 Correction: Feds own 84.5% of Nevada.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:11 PM (ZPrif)

181 I wanted to sooooo type into the comments "Leave Academia.... come to real world. We get results" ... but didnt.

I'm not sure anyone in the real world really needs a sociologist who studies fiction on their payroll, even one who could write well, which that schmuck couldn't.

Posted by: HR at April 11, 2014 12:11 PM (ZKzrr)

182 You gotta figure that the NSAhole that identified this bug is now sitting in a comfy corner office, with windows even.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 11, 2014 12:12 PM (cHZB7)

183 Harvard University has a couple of animal psychology courses. Verily. Posted by: Soothsayer ------------------- They spend grant money observing chickens cross the road, while they thoughtfully stroke their chins.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2014 12:12 PM (aDwsi)

184 The Rancher hasn't paid his grazing fees for 20 years. I think that we must consider this above everything else. I mean, what is the government supposed to do? Ignore it's own laws?...... Ok,.... even I couldn't say that with a straight face. The Federales wouldn't be there right now if the fees were paid. *** They have been ranching that land for, IIRC, 130+ years. It was when the tortoise was deemed a protected species that this bullshit began. The ckufing EPA needs to be the first fed agency to be disbanded.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:12 PM (DmNpO)

185 Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 04:10 PM (Ja56Y Ohz? I'm assuming every one of them engages in improper anthropomorphization as well. Pro tip: We can't think like nonlingual animals, assuming we can is often a bad idea.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 12:12 PM (HDwDg)

186 This is scary. I'm not even so much bothered by the NSA itself preserving a backdoor into my private stuff. I always figured they could do that anyway, if they wanted. You should be bothered. Who is more likely to crawl up your ass and make your life hell, Putin or the Obama Cult, along with psycho leftists who can have a friend in the government get lots of personal information that you're trying to keep from the public eye? Whatisname who is giving you serious headaches doesn't have connections to AQ, China, or Putin, but he does have lots of buddies in the Democrat party

Posted by: kbdabear at April 11, 2014 12:12 PM (aTXUx)

187 Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 04:06 PM (nELVU)

I did. I'm in a devil may care kind of mood today.

Could be the Yohinbe I took earlier.

Go look if you like under jakee308.

I told them I thought it was a put on but then I started going to his links and he actually did have a piece on zombies and a bunch of other stuff. So then I laced into all the pointy headed phds tut tutting about how he should hang in there.

He's a SOCIOLOGIST. and HE WRITES ABOUT ZOMBIES and he lives with his MOM.

He is a waste of oxygen and I so stated that all the rest of them were too.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 12:13 PM (JS0vr)

188 they stroke their van dykes

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:13 PM (Ja56Y)

189 The top 10 list of states with the highest percentage of federally owned land looks like this: Nevada 84.5% Alaska 69.1% Utah 57.4% Oregon 53.1% Idaho 50.2% Arizona 48.1% California 45.3% Wyoming 42.3% New Mexico 41.8% Colorado 36.6%

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:13 PM (ZPrif)

190 Â“I was just told by commissioner Collins of Clark County NV that all of us folks from Utah are a bunch of Â“inbred bastardsÂ” and if we are coming to Clark Cointy NV to support Cliven Bundy we all Â“better have funeral plansÂ”. We should Â“turn our asses around on mind our own f-ing businessÂ”. Now thereÂ’s some classy leadership for you,Â” wrote Bushman on his official Facebook page. Like I said in previous post, Utahs are concerned because of the current Sage Grouse debate going on in their own territory. They see the writing on the wall, they will face the same fight in Utah very soon. By showing support for a fellow rancher they are trying to nip the govt tromping over their rights in the bud, I am guessing. Am so worried this is all going to end in violence though...

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 12:13 PM (yRwC8)

191 Of course, the solution to BLM abuse is for the feds to sell off the land. Why do the feds need to own the land anyway. Sell the land to the highest bidder, who then can, if he chooses, sell grazing access to nearby ranchers. Why do the Feds own 90% of Nevada anyway? *** Jones in Co edumacated me on twitter. He said that the feds own 86% of Nevada. 86%!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:13 PM (DmNpO)

192 Feds own 1.9% of Texas and 0.8% of New York.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:13 PM (ZPrif)

193 Hannity on I heart radio is Jaime Dupree not getting bundy interview

Posted by: thunderb at April 11, 2014 12:14 PM (zOTsN)

194 Costanza beat me to it to, and did it better.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:14 PM (DmNpO)

195 Hannity was out there in California talking to the growers who had their water shut off. Got a lot of publicity out of it, told the story of all those people out of work. High unemployment in the area, food prices increasing. How did that turn out?

Posted by: Tremblay the Poor at April 11, 2014 12:14 PM (UfmCv)

196 They've euthanized 1,000 turtles--wtf? Are you guys hearing that one?

Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 12:14 PM (RJMhd)

197 Nevada 84.5% Alaska 69.1% Utah 57.4% Oregon 53.1% Idaho 50.2% Arizona 48.1% California 45.3% Wyoming 42.3% New Mexico 41.8% Colorado 36.6% Posted by: Costanza ---------------------------------- You left out Federal Agencies: 100%

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2014 12:14 PM (aDwsi)

198 So far he doesn't sound Posse Comitatus-ish, but it's obvious he hates the Federal Government. And he is definitely aware of the real motives behind the BLM's actions. Not a dummy, not overly articulate, but not dumb.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:14 PM (ZshNr)

199 Zombies? FFS, I told someone yesterday I felt stupid for going into Animal Research Ethics. At least my field is around something real. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 04:09 PM (HDwDg) I have long regarded "Zombies" as proxies for after-the-collapse Americans trying to get my food water and shelter. I tell my kids to watch plenty of zombie movies, because it might be good training for the future when they have to deal with a bunch of roaming bands of starving liberals.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 11, 2014 12:14 PM (bb5+k)

200 Actually, one of the courses, in the description, asks, "Can we really talk to animals?" I dunno if that course is still offered, but it mostly involved working with dogs.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:15 PM (Ja56Y)

201 try wsb radio dot com (remove spaces)

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at April 11, 2014 12:15 PM (WDySP)

202 speaking of NH... John Sununu has entered the race! *** You're kidding. This is going to be entertaining.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:15 PM (DmNpO)

203 Whew! My CompuServe listserv account wasn't hacked.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 11, 2014 12:15 PM (MKpBT)

204 Obviously, another enemy of the state.

Posted by: Peter King(NY) at April 11, 2014 12:15 PM (thLL8)

205 Pro tip: We can't think like nonlingual animals, assuming we can is often a bad idea.

Humans think? Lol.

Posted by: HR's cats at April 11, 2014 12:15 PM (ZKzrr)

206 Link appear at top here NewsRadio 600WREC http://www.iheart.com/search/?q=hannity

Posted by: tasker at April 11, 2014 12:16 PM (RJMhd)

207 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 04:13 PM (JS0vr) Cool, Uhh I'll be over here just not breathing. (Pro tip #2 the guy. If conferences are offering you invites but not willing to pay travel and board, you aren't high on their list. At best you're a novelty they're curious if they can get for free.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 12:16 PM (HDwDg)

208 You see, Harvard's motto is Veritas, which means truth. Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 04:11 PM (Ja56Y) Didn't Obama go there? It isn't working.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 11, 2014 12:16 PM (bb5+k)

209 NV issue being discussed now http://www.iheart.com/live/News-Radio-570-WWNC-1593/?autoplay=true

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2014 12:16 PM (aDwsi)

210 If someone needs an online radio station to listen to Hannity: http://www.iheart.com/live/1057-KNRS-2389/

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 12:16 PM (yRwC8)

211 133 The Rancher hasn't paid his grazing fees for 20 years. I think that we must consider this above everything else. I mean, what is the government supposed to do? Ignore it's own laws?...... Ok,.... even I couldn't say that with a straight face. The Federales wouldn't be there right now if the fees were paid. Posted by: Decidedly Indifferent at April 11, 2014 03:55 PM (jucos) Keep on believing that story from the government and pay no attention to the BLM director clearing that land for his old boss Harry Reid and his family's multimillion dollar deal for solar power panels

Posted by: kbdabear at April 11, 2014 12:16 PM (aTXUx)

212 Schadenfreude! Get yer hot schadenfreude here! http://is.gd/eLUPCA - In the right circumstances, overnight he might be able to write is own ticket.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 11, 2014 12:17 PM (XUKZU)

213 Like I said in previous post, Utahs are concerned because of the current Sage Grouse debate going on in their own territory. They see the writing on the wall, they will face the same fight in Utah very soon. By showing support for a fellow rancher they are trying to nip the govt tromping over their rights in the bud, I am guessing. Am so worried this is all going to end in violence though... Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 04:13 PM (yRwC I can't remember the area, but there were reports that an ivory billed woodpecker, which have been thought to be extinct, were seen and the EPA began making noises about protecting an area even though there was no actual proof the thing still existed. People began clear cutting their property to get rid of the trees to prevent the EPA from saying their land was habitat. Because nothing says environmentalism like forcing people to clear cut old growth areas because something may or may not exist.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 11, 2014 12:17 PM (mf5HN)

214 We're more about collective security...

Posted by: The NSA at April 11, 2014 12:17 PM (FcR7P)

215 Us v. Big Government. The song remains the same.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at April 11, 2014 12:18 PM (DH7Uw)

216 Poor old guy is about to cry.

Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 11, 2014 12:18 PM (thLL8)

217 BunkerintheBurbs thanks!!!

Posted by: thunderb at April 11, 2014 12:18 PM (zOTsN)

218 I'm not sure anyone in the real world really needs a sociologist who studies fiction on their payroll, even one who could write well, which that schmuck couldn't. Posted by: HR at April 11, 2014 04:11 PM (ZKzrr) ---- True that. Him ... and all his enablers... are sooooo boned by the single act of choosing a major with no real world application. He hung his hopes of a "career" on a tenured professorships. He might as well have pursued a career in the NBA. The BEST advice he got was to learn a trade... welder, plumber, electrician. I *almost* feel sorry for him. He wanted a credentialed PhD gig. He'll settle for teaching undergrads. He'll get the nightshift at Taco Bell.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 12:18 PM (nELVU)

219 I was wrong. Correction: Sununu Not running in NH. My mistake. Old man Sununu kicked off Scott Brown's campaign.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:19 PM (Ja56Y)

220 People began clear cutting their property to get rid of the trees to prevent the EPA from saying their land was habitat. Because nothing says environmentalism like forcing people to clear cut old growth areas because something may or may not exist. *** Holy cow!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:19 PM (DmNpO)

221 Skeptical, but http://danaloeschradio.com/the-real-story-of-the-bundy-ranch/ Claim is Reid wants the land for giant solar farms for his top donors.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:19 PM (ZPrif)

222 You see, Harvard's motto is Veritas, which means truth. ---------------- The original motto, Â“Truth (Veritas) for Christ (Christo) and the Church (Ecclesiae),Â” was adopted in 1692 It has been changed..., naturally.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2014 12:19 PM (aDwsi)

223 Baby sitter finally showed up for grandson so I can now go over and install MIL's new monitor. bbl

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 11, 2014 12:19 PM (T2V/1)

224 BTW this is truth to power

Posted by: thunderb at April 11, 2014 12:19 PM (zOTsN)

225 Is there any way to lock the kitteh and doggeh pick permanently on the sidebar?

Posted by: eleven at April 11, 2014 12:20 PM (fsLdt)

226 my heart breaks for this guy

Posted by: thunderb at April 11, 2014 12:20 PM (zOTsN)

227 202:
In Shakespeare (I Henry IV, 3.1), when the Welsh chieftain Owen Glendower says "I can call spirits from the vasty deep", the English Hotspur replies "Why, so can I, or so can any man, / But will they come when you do call for them?"

The same question applies to dogs and all other beasts: "Can we really talk to animals?" Of course, but will they talk back? Not likely.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at April 11, 2014 12:20 PM (qBnyJ)

228 225 - see : http://tinyurl.com/p48bj8h

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2014 12:20 PM (aDwsi)

229 Old rancher guy is taking it to the system. Good.

Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 11, 2014 12:21 PM (thLL8)

230 Former Conservative senator Bob Smith is, however, running for Senate in NH against Scott Brown, who Smith characterizes as a "central planner." Heh.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:21 PM (Ja56Y)

231 sounds like he only recognizes the county as a legitimate governmental entity

Posted by: thunderb at April 11, 2014 12:21 PM (zOTsN)

232 I don't know if anyone else remembers this, but it was the subject of one of those 20/20 types of shows years ago, and it stuck with me. It took a while to find the article, but here it is. This is not a joke. http://bit.ly/1iCqH3V

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:21 PM (DmNpO)

233 Talk to the animals? Heck, I do it all of the time.

Posted by: Dr. Doolittle at April 11, 2014 12:22 PM (aDwsi)

234 Posted by: HR's cats at April 11, 2014 04:15 PM (ZKzrr Hey I'm not saying cats can't think. I'm saying the way they think is largely incomprehensible to us. Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 04:15 PM (Ja56Y) Spoiler alert: No. Whacky thing, I read a paper once where the guy went into this long rant about how coyotes must have a "telos" because when they get trapped they'll chew off their leg to escape. And since they can't have a concept of "death" it must point to a "Telos." In my comps paper I called that the stupidest line of reasoning I had ever read. "Death" is a linguistic concept. By definition they can't have a conception of it. But this doesn't rule out a non-linguistic concept of "harm" or "non-existing" that (by definition) would be impossible to put into words (and therefore nearly impossible for humans to express understanding of. Simply put he can't rule that out. And any speaking of a coyote's "telos" is just us assigning words to the coyote and assuming we're right.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 12:22 PM (HDwDg)

235 Yep, species go extinct. Do not give a fuck. It is a myth that Nature is in a delicate balance and one species going extinct will throw everything into chaos. Total bullshit. Natural disasters destroy habitats on a regular basis. Life goes on. Species go extinct. Life goes on. If a species goes extinct that is good news whatever it preyed on, good news for other species that competed for the same resources, and bad news for whatever preyed on the species that died out. They all will adapt. Or die. But life goes on. The "delicate web" theory of Nature is grade-A, unscientific bullshit designed to scare people.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:22 PM (ZPrif)

236 Nevada 84.5% Alaska 69.1% Utah 57.4% Oregon 53.1% Idaho 50.2% Arizona 48.1% California 45.3% Wyoming 42.3% New Mexico 41.8% Colorado 36.6% Posted by: Costanza There were laws set in place so that over time, the states would be granted back the lands the fed govt held. Eastern states got their lands back, but the govt never gave the land back to the western states. This has been one of our governor's biggest battles, is getting the land back into state hands that the govt promised. Yes, color me shocked that the feds reneged on another promise. During the govt shutdown we got ahold of our federal parks so they could stay open, we did an excellent job of running them. Our governor is trying to get them back into state hands, prove we will be good stewards of our own backyards. And yet the govt still acts like the Western states are children and need to be overly regulated. Yep, again color me shocked.

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 12:22 PM (yRwC8)

237 podcast up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:23 PM (DmNpO)

238 Bets on whether it's still on the list?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 11, 2014 12:23 PM (JS0vr)

239 I wanna blame this bug for the fact that one of our computers is effed up at the moment. You know, the one computer with the tax forms 99% filled out. *whimper*

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 11, 2014 12:23 PM (SUKHu)

240 Claim is Reid wants the land for giant solar farms for his top donors. Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 04:19 PM (ZPrif) Given the Crony Capitalism rampant in this era, I find that claim all too credible.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 11, 2014 12:24 PM (bb5+k)

241 sounds like he only recognizes the county as a legitimate governmental entity *** He has a winning argument. This is not it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:24 PM (DmNpO)

242 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 04:22 PM (HDwDg) ---- Anthopomorphism. How does it work????

Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 12:24 PM (nELVU)

243 Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 04:22 PM (ZPrif) Plus I can't find any evidence this isn't just a subspecies of box turtle. (I'm 90% sure it is just a subspecies of box turtle.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 12:25 PM (HDwDg)

244 There is a story on Weasel Zippers about a couple who bought some land in Summit County Colorado that the government is now trying to get by eminent domain. The kicker is that the government literally doesn't want to do anything with it. They want open space. Presumably they will tear the residence down to get their open space.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 11, 2014 12:27 PM (XUKZU)

245 Claim is Reid wants the land for giant solar farms for his top donors. Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 04:19 PM (ZPrif) Because nothing says perfect turtle nesting grounds like a giant solar farm...EPA for thee not for me!

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 11, 2014 12:27 PM (yRwC8)

246 Plus I can't find any evidence this isn't just a subspecies of box turtle. (I'm 90% sure it is just a subspecies of box turtle.) Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 11, 2014 04:25 PM (HDwDg) ---- We checked with the EPA. Thats all the evidence you need..... peasant.

Posted by: THE B.L.M. at April 11, 2014 12:27 PM (nELVU)

247 Claim is Reid wants the land for giant solar farms for his top donors. - I imagine that Reid has already spent the bribe money on handcuffs and chloroform so they can't back down now.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 11, 2014 12:28 PM (XUKZU)

248 Anthopomorphism. How does it work???? Posted by: fixerupper at April 11, 2014 04:24 PM (nELVU) Temple Grandin is, in my opinion, one of the people with the best insight into animal Psychology. And she even says that animals do not think like humans do, they are not on the same level of intellect. Deserve respect and humaneness? Yes? Treated like an actual person? No.

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 12:29 PM (yRwC8)

249 There is a story on Weasel Zippers about a couple who bought some land in Summit County Colorado that the government is now trying to get by eminent domain. The kicker is that the government literally doesn't want to do anything with it. They want open space. Presumably they will tear the residence down to get their open space. *** You'll just love this story: http://fxn.ws/PYMRXh

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:29 PM (DmNpO)

250 I'm in the podcats thread. It is, after all, currently the top poat.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 11, 2014 12:31 PM (Ja56Y)

251 When I was a kid, I once went on a weekend "educational adventure" to Plymouth MA, where we spent two days camping out, trapping and banding red-bellied turtles. It was like one of three ponds in the world with a population of the species. I was a geek.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:31 PM (ZshNr)

252 One last thought: For those conservatives saying that since BLM arrived in the late 90s, itÂ’s the law now, well, so is Obamacare" - Dana Loesch http://tinyurl.com/klz2ope

Posted by: kbdabear at April 11, 2014 12:31 PM (aTXUx)

253 Temple Grand in's books are great.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 12:32 PM (ZshNr)

254 And if an organism is a threat to human life, like smallpox, then wipe it off the face of the earth.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 11, 2014 12:32 PM (ZPrif)

255 One last thought: For those conservatives saying that since BLM arrived in the late 90s, itÂ’s the law now, well, so is Obamacare" - Dana Loesch *** What continues to shock me are the folks, particularly on twitter, who claim to be conservatives but always manage to find a way to defend the actions of the feds. They are all for states and local rights until it impacts them or their kids or their neighbors. They think it's just fine to run an entire industry out of business in "conservation" of a ckufing tortoise. I'm at the point where I no longer even see such arguments as worthy of the time I would expend on them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 11, 2014 12:35 PM (DmNpO)

256 Blackberry has stated none of their devices including enterprise servers, legacy phones, or new OS10 phones are affected. And they aren't google or apple libs.

Posted by: Vizzy at April 11, 2014 12:36 PM (L92R0)

257 The whole thing is wildly overhyped. Heartbleed is not likely to expose keys.

No one has successfully broken CloudFlare's Heartbleed test page yet.

Posted by: TallDave at April 11, 2014 12:36 PM (/s1LA)

258 Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2014 04:32 PM (ZshNr) She is amazing. I'm also a visual thinker, and no one explains it better. The HBO movie they did about her is one of the best things that channel ever did, justifies their existence on the cables. http://www.ted.com/ talks/temple_grandin_the_world_needs_all_kinds_of_minds

Posted by: LizLem at April 11, 2014 12:37 PM (yRwC8)

259 https://www.cloudflarechallenge.com/

Posted by: TallDave at April 11, 2014 12:37 PM (/s1LA)

260

There is a story on Weasel Zippers about a couple who bought some land in Summit County Colorado that the government is now trying to get by eminent domain. The kicker is that the government literally doesn't want to do anything with it. They want open space. Presumably they will tear the residence down to get their open space.

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I know some people here are skeptical and even laugh at this but it's real and getting worse. This is a good example of the UN's Agenda 21. This is what they do.

Posted by: Soona at April 11, 2014 12:37 PM (Apfwx)

261 Hannity calling for the Republican Governor to get involved. Another wimp shit no doubt.

Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 11, 2014 12:38 PM (thLL8)

262 Would Rick Perry put up with this shit?

Posted by: Beyond Disgusted at April 11, 2014 12:39 PM (thLL8)

263 @talldave if the vulnerability was patched it's impossible to "break" using the same attack. This is a fact. Recompiling OpenSSL with -DOPENSSL_NO_HEARTBEATS was the simplest fix. Mac OS X is still on version .98, before the heartbeat feature was added to openssl so it was never vulnerable.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 11, 2014 12:51 PM (IbzLj)

264 Government. 3/4 evil, the other 1/4 stupid fumbling.

Posted by: Cato at April 11, 2014 01:25 PM (4cRuH)

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