March 24, 2014

Pew Polling Reports That Even Among Obamacare Opponents, Most Want Their Congressmen to "Make Obamacare Work." Here's How They Got The Answer They Wanted.
— Ace

It's a useful bit of propaganda for Obamacare supporters to say "Even those opposed to Obamacare still want their Congressmen to work to improve the system, to make it work."

Pew's supplied the Democrats with that very bandwagon-effect-promoting propaganda.

But did they get the answer they wanted fairly?

Well, imagine how you, personally, would inquire into the preferred course of action of Obamacare supporters. You might give them the options of "Work to improve it anyway," or "Stay out of the way of it/Let it collapse under its own weight," and so forth.

Here are the options -- two of them -- that Pew gave respondents to choose from:

What do you think elected officials who oppose the health care law should do now that the law has started to take effect? Should they [X] or should they [Y]?

Do what they can to make the law work as well as possible

Do what they can to make the law fail

Emphases added.

Pew gave them a binary choice between "doing what they can to make the law work" and actively working to subvert and sabotage the law, and they present it as a meaningful bit of data that 30% supported the former choice, and only 19% the latter.

Good God.

Now, there are those who do actually favor just that -- working to make the law fail. But very few people are at that level of decisiveness (decisive enough on this issue to decide the long-term harms of Obamacare justifies short-term "let it burn" pain).

Most people would still choose a less aggressive, underhanded-sounding response, like "Let it collapse under its own weight."

But Pew refuses respondents that choice, insisting that people either declare their desire to "make Obamacare work the best we can, by Golly!" or declare themselves hostage-taking terrorists of the sort often decried by one Harry Reid.

Why, you'd almost think that major institutions of the media are entirely captured by the political left or something.


Posted by: Ace at 12:28 PM | Comments (359)
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1 First?

Posted by: DaveinNC at March 24, 2014 12:29 PM (boNGU)

2 SMOD would have been a better answer.

Posted by: jaimo at March 24, 2014 12:29 PM (9U1OG)

3 They missed the "Light it on fire then piss on the ashes" option.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at March 24, 2014 12:30 PM (ZWvOb)

4 I see Pew has been taking notes on how to get a favorable public opinion outcome from Putin.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 24, 2014 12:30 PM (r/e1Q)

5 Pew Research - cuz compassion.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at March 24, 2014 12:30 PM (oDCMR)

6 The cornerstone of democracy rests on the foundation of an educated electorate.  So that means. we're fucked.

Posted by: Stuff Thomas Jefferson Said, vol. 3 at March 24, 2014 12:30 PM (8ZskC)

7 The left thinks a double blind study has at least two blind guys involved.

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 12:31 PM (lejgm)

8 Weiner...Polls...I'm sensing a trend.

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 12:31 PM (lejgm)

9 Alternatively, Pew: "Did we mention we came up with the polling criteria for Crimea?"

Posted by: Country Singer at March 24, 2014 12:31 PM (r/e1Q)

10 Do you love Big Brother, or do you want to kill    Big Brother?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 12:31 PM (eoeps)

11 We are the 19%

Posted by: Lauren at March 24, 2014 12:31 PM (hFL/3)

12 No one has "sabotaged the Law" more than Barky himself.

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 12:32 PM (De5Op)

13 So let it burn is "softened" by let it collapse under it's own weight?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 12:32 PM (h1D+w)

14 Next choice:


Do what they can to make the law work as well as possible.


Do what they can to kill all puppies born since the bill was enacted.


Posted by: PJ at March 24, 2014 12:32 PM (ZWaLo)

15
pew, pew ...

Posted by: obligatory blaster sounds at March 24, 2014 12:32 PM (fOLwM)

16

We love B.O.

Posted by: Pew pronounced pee-you at March 24, 2014 12:33 PM (wAQA5)

17 It's always who's asking and how they're doing the asking.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 12:33 PM (gOoFi)

18 What do you think elected officials who oppose the Iraq invasion should do now that the war has started? Should they [X] or should they [Y]?

Do what they can to make the operation succeed as well as possible

Do what they can to make the war fail

...

Can't say I remember any poll like that...


Posted by: ThomasD at March 24, 2014 12:33 PM (FA+FN)

19 Question: Would you rather: A) be a democrat and live B) Be a Republican and die See more people are really democrats at heart

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (t3UFN)

20 Everything Pew is shit. Even lasers.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (ZPrif)

21 Do what they can to make the law fail  


STATUS QUO

Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (kFxpe)

22 "No one has "sabotaged the Law" more than Barky himself..." That's different. Because.

Posted by: Lefty at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (gOoFi)

23 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (PYAXX)

24 Ace - they are pushing this 24/7 over at Daily Kooks.

Every single election diary or O'Care diary pushes: "Americans overwhelmingly do not want Obamacare repealed".

They do this, of course, by combining the respondents from these surveys that choose either "Like ACA as is" and "Keep ACA but fix it".

The pollsters are in the tank big time for the Dems and Obamacare.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (Z7PrM)

25 Seems legit.

Posted by: Crimean Ballot Writer at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (08jH8)

26 The important question, here is : What do they think 'Failure' looks like?

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (lejgm)

27 That's the beauty of ObamaCare, when it "works" as designed, it fails. Thus necessitating Socialized medicine FTW!

Posted by: Cloward-Piven at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (udjuE)

28 Pew is pee-you-ie.

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (De5Op)

29 Do what they can to make the law fail

AKA implimenting the full law without any exemptions, extentions, or modification.

That the DemCong won't do this should be proof enough that it is an unworkable mess. But, for the LIV, DERP!

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i][/b] at March 24, 2014 12:34 PM (cSFFy)

30 Who funds Pew? How do the get their money? What's their budget?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 24, 2014 12:35 PM (ZPrif)

31 Do you support Obamacare? Or do you want old people dying the street?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 12:35 PM (gOoFi)

32 Someone ought to refer the Media to Daedelus (and other historical/mythological inventors) to find out what happens to someone really, really useful once their utility has run out.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 24, 2014 12:35 PM (PYAXX)

33 Well I would vote for Do What They Can To Make The Law Fail but that's just me.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 24, 2014 12:35 PM (g1DWB)

34 You cray cray about skewed polls.

Posted by: Mau Mau at March 24, 2014 12:35 PM (Aif/5)

35 Well I would vote for Do What They Can To Make The Law Fail but that's just me. Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 24, 2014 12:36 PM (PYAXX)

36 Put me in the make it fail camp.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 12:36 PM (gmeXX)

37 But...Obamacare has electrolytes! It's what plants crave.

Posted by: The.General.Public at March 24, 2014 12:36 PM (vgIRn)

38 >>Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Exactly!!

Posted by: Cloward-Piven at March 24, 2014 12:37 PM (udjuE)

39 Do you want to cure the common cold or do you want everyone to get sick and die?

Posted by: Max Power at March 24, 2014 12:37 PM (q177U)

40 "Doing what they can to make something fail" has been the Democrat's going-in position for the past 50 years for all public policy.

Posted by: Roy at March 24, 2014 12:37 PM (VndSC)

41 Even I think this stinks.

Posted by: Pepe Le Pew at March 24, 2014 12:37 PM (De5Op)

42 If you haven't noticed by now, the dhims are desperate! There's no other logical reason.

Posted by: Travis McGee at March 24, 2014 12:37 PM (Ph479)

43 Do you support Obamacare? Or do you think that minority children don't deserve healthcare?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 12:37 PM (gOoFi)

44 An intruder is attempting to enter your home.  Choose the best course of action from the following:

A.  Responsibly notify local law enforcement officers who are professionally trained in the safe use of weapons and tactics.

B.  Act like a goddamn maniac cowboy by attempting to shoot the invader yourself, possibly endangering pets, furniture and neighbors in the process.

Posted by: The Pew Poll at March 24, 2014 12:37 PM (8ZskC)

45 CBD Polling questions:

What do you think elected officials who support your freedom to make your own choices with respect to your own health-care should do now that the law has started to take effect? Should they:

A) work to repeal ObamaCare?
B) work to solidify government control over your family's health.?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 24, 2014 12:37 PM (QFxY5)

46 "Yes, Minister" says just about all you need to know about politics: http://youtu.be/G0ZZJXw4MTA They even had an episode about revolutionary radicals who want to manipulate ignorant people into collapsing the government so they can take power.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 24, 2014 12:37 PM (qyfb5)

47 Both options result in failure.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 24, 2014 12:37 PM (slXFW)

48 That's quite a bit of desperation right there in that poll.  I want the Democrats to hug this to their chests like it is their favorite security blanket and run on Obamacare this year.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 24, 2014 12:38 PM (hLRSq)

49 Who funds Pew? How do the get their money? What's their budget? -------- According to wiki they're funded through a trust set up by a foundation that was founded to "advance certain social and environmental causes". So, yeah.

Posted by: Adam at March 24, 2014 12:38 PM (Aif/5)

50 At this point we could probably piss on 52% of the population and make them believe it's raining.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 24, 2014 12:38 PM (32Ze2)

51 Dr. K said, "Let me ask the questions and I'll give you any result you want."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 12:38 PM (0HooB)

52 Why, you'd almost think that major institutions of the media are entirely captured by the political left or something. Nah, they're just all fucking each other. Ponder that. Ponder. That. In recompense, I give you this: http://youtu.be/pwnZDakp_v4

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 24, 2014 12:38 PM (VtjlW)

53 Your either with Lord Obama or you are against him.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2014 12:38 PM (zqvg6)

54 Do you want to see The Affordable Care Act Repealed, or, would you prefer a $25,000 healthcare voucher?

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 12:38 PM (lejgm)

55 So only 30% supported the benign former option and 19% supported the malignant latter option. That really doesn't bode well for Obamacare supporters.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 12:39 PM (gmeXX)

56 Do you A) support obamacare B) want to spend the rest of your miserable life in a prison camp you worthless dog

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 12:39 PM (t3UFN)

57

Would you rather:

 

A) Motorboat Kate Upton

B) Put sunscreen on Christina Hendricks

 

 

Now that's how you poll.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 24, 2014 12:39 PM (JtwS4)

58 Do you support Obamacare? Or do you think grandma should be eating dog food to pay for her medicine?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 12:39 PM (gOoFi)

59 Do you love Big Brother, or do you want to kill Big Brother?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 04:31 PM (eoeps)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

Better yet:

 

Does 2+2=4?

 

Or does 2+2=5? 

 

Think hard, citizen.  Your life depends on your answer.

Posted by: Soona at March 24, 2014 12:39 PM (6RUDX)

60 53 You're ,damn it.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2014 12:39 PM (zqvg6)

61 You are exploring a remote island when captured by by native tribal warriors.  The chief offers you one of the following choices.  Which would you choose?

A.  Death

B.  Bunga bunga

Posted by: The Pew Poll at March 24, 2014 12:39 PM (8ZskC)

62

I'm a doctor.  I got a phone survey from my medical association.  They asked "would you say the health system is OK, or would you say the health system is in crisis?"

*Bang* instant headline creator.  I didn't answer the survey, I just hung up.

Posted by: Erik L at March 24, 2014 12:40 PM (RYQAM)

63 They neglected the third option in the poll - "But first, you will blow me".

Posted by: Roy at March 24, 2014 12:40 PM (VndSC)

64 Have you stopped beating your spouse yet? Huh? Huh? Well, have you?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 12:40 PM (0HooB)

65 What bias?

Posted by: Andy at March 24, 2014 12:40 PM (p2RiQ)

66 I'm a doctor. I got a phone survey from my medical association. They asked "would you say the health system is OK, or would you say the health system is in crisis?" *Bang* instant headline creator. I didn't answer the survey, I just hung up. Posted by: Erik L at March 24, 2014 04:40 PM (RYQAM) They put you down as in favor of obamacare

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 12:40 PM (t3UFN)

67 It's enough to make you think the Pew Organization is riddled with lefties!

Posted by: Andrew Kohut is a big fat Democrat!!! at March 24, 2014 12:41 PM (F58x4)

68 And, the GOP isn't helping, anyway. 'Getting Serious About Obamacare Repeal' An Olympiad ago yesterday, President Obama signed Obamacare into law. Four years later, it is clear that Republicans are committed to running against it. Far less clear, however, is whether they are committed to repealing it. http://tinyurl.com/o5jgn8t the weekly standard

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 24, 2014 12:41 PM (IXrOn)

69 "Your either with Lord Obama or you are against him." You know when GWB did that the Left screeched and writhed, so black and white. What about the grey?!?!?!?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 12:41 PM (gOoFi)

70 Yep. This is what fear smells like.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 24, 2014 12:41 PM (GpU8f)

71 Option Three:  "Sit back and watch it collapse into a trans-dimmensional worm hole of its own suckitude, never to be seen again."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 24, 2014 12:42 PM (hLRSq)

72 This is a pretty poor polling result from such a biased poll.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 12:42 PM (gmeXX)

73 Yeah. Who was it who was saying that polling is the racket we ought to get in to? And polling is a great way to shape public opinion? Oh, now I remember. It was ME.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 12:43 PM (c1VyR)

74 "You are exploring a remote island when captured by by native tribal warriors. The chief offers you one of the following choices. Which would you choose? A. Death B. Bunga bunga" What about snoo-snoo? Is snoo-snoo an option?

Posted by: Zap Branigan at March 24, 2014 12:43 PM (gOoFi)

75 30 plus 19 equals 49%        So, the majority didn't even bother to answer.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 12:43 PM (eoeps)

76 You always need at least 4 options to get anything close to validity, preferably more. A binary choice is obviously bad, while a third choice will just push people to the 'middle course'.

Posted by: toby928© at March 24, 2014 12:43 PM (QupBk)

77 OK, I'll bite... What's snoo?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 12:43 PM (0HooB)

78

"You are exploring a remote island when captured by by native tribal warriors. The chief offers you one of the following choices. Which would you choose?

A. Death

B. Bunga bunga"

You chose death, and death it shall be.  By Bunga-Bunga!

Posted by: Tribal Chief at March 24, 2014 12:43 PM (DrWcr)

79 #66 I'm in Canada, it was an unrelated issue they were asking about.  I commented just showing how polls get manipulated.  49.5 cents of every tax dollar goes to health care here.  You guys are doomed sad to say.   :-((

Posted by: Erik L at March 24, 2014 12:43 PM (RYQAM)

80 The thing is.. they have delayed the most painful parts of O'Care.. Even a flawed poll can only get a slight majority that either likes it or wants to fix it.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 24, 2014 12:44 PM (Z7PrM)

81 55 So only 30% supported the benign former option and 19% supported the malignant latter option. That really doesn't bode well for Obamacare supporters. Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 04:39 PM (gmeXX) Uh..... that's only 49%.... on a Binary question.... What? The other 51% did not answer?

Posted by: Math... its hard... at March 24, 2014 12:44 PM (84gbM)

82

Howz about a third option:

 

Repeal obamacare and have a bipartisan group of lawmakers work together on ways to address significant problems that affect small percentage of people within our healthcare system.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 24, 2014 12:44 PM (tVTLU)

83 You know all this spinning of the truth could lead Dems to make really horrible decisions. Do you think any of the nimrods in the media has ever thought of that? Garbage in, garbage out. Oh, look, Nancy doesn't have her big gavel anymore. What are the odds?

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at March 24, 2014 12:44 PM (oDCMR)

84 I'll also point out that >50% of respondents rejected a) the premise of the question, b) the answers, or c) both. 30 + 19 = 49% of respondents even agreed to either of their answers. Which suggests that 51% of Americans favor repeal. (Actually 70%).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 24, 2014 12:44 PM (PYAXX)

85 And, the GOP isn't helping, anyway.


We don't want to seem, you know, pushy.

Posted by: Chip Diller at March 24, 2014 12:44 PM (8ZskC)

86 U.S. Whites More Solidly Republican in Recent Years Party preferences more polarized by race and ethnicity under Obama by Jeffrey M. Jones 12> PRINCETON, NJ -- Whites and nonwhites have long shown differing political party preferences, with nonwhites widely favoring the Democratic Party and whites typically favoring the Republican Party by at least a small margin. In recent years, however, the margins in favor of the Republican Party among whites have been some of the largest. Gee and whom do you think is to blame for that? Hum?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 12:44 PM (t3UFN)

87 Now, there are those who do actually favor just that -- working to make the law fail.
I believe that group it called "Occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Ave."

Posted by: fluffy at March 24, 2014 12:45 PM (Ua6T/)

88

Heads:  I win

Tails:  You lose

Posted by: Bill Ayers at March 24, 2014 12:45 PM (kFxpe)

89 "What's snoo?.." A little show called "Futurama." Ten years ago or so. Pretty good episode.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 12:45 PM (gOoFi)

90 Imagine the possibilities of polling. We could ask questions such as: Would you hire obama to run your business? and Do you think obama could do more to lower gas prices? The results of these questions are quite predictable. The Left would shit bricks.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 12:45 PM (c1VyR)

91 Sure, we could construct a poll for you. What result are you seeking?

Posted by: Pew Research at March 24, 2014 12:45 PM (F58x4)

92 Cake.... or.... DEATHHHHHH!

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 24, 2014 12:45 PM (84gbM)

93 You are exploring a remote island when captured by by native tribal warriors. The chief offers you one of the following choices. Which would you choose? A. Death B. Bunga bunga" You chose death, and death it shall be. By Bunga-Bunga! Bunga-Bunga is his daughter!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 12:45 PM (h1D+w)

94 This is a pretty poor polling result from such a biased poll.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 04:42 PM (gmeXX)

Good point.

Next week's poll will follow the morons' suggestions above.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 24, 2014 12:46 PM (QFxY5)

95 I SEE FOUR CHOICES!!

Posted by: jean luc pichard at March 24, 2014 12:46 PM (QupBk)

96 Would you rather: A)Motorboat Kate Upton B) Put sunscreen on Christina Hendricks Now that's how you poll. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 24, 2014 04:39 PM (JtwS4) I reject your outdated binary thinking and demand a third option! C) Watch as Christina Hendricks motorboats Kate Upton whilst Kate Upton puts sunscreen on Christina Hendricks

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 24, 2014 12:46 PM (VtjlW)

97 What do you think elected officials who oppose the health care law should do now that the law has started to take effect?

A) Command you to be raped by a warthog.
B) Do what they can to make the law work as well as possible.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 24, 2014 12:46 PM (+lsX1)

98 Howz abouta third option:

Repeal obamacare and have a bipartisan group of lawmakers work together on ways to address significant problems that affectsmall percentage of peoplewithin our healthcare system beat the holy crap out of Nancy Pelosi and Hairy Reed with a giant gavel.


The motion is passed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 24, 2014 12:46 PM (8ZskC)

99 Did someone say snu-snu?

Posted by: Helen Thomas at March 24, 2014 12:46 PM (ZKzrr)

100 Do you support Obamacare? Or do you Haters hate women and people of color?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 12:46 PM (gOoFi)

101 So "Actively work to undermine and destroy the law of the land" polls at 19%.  Not too shabby.

They might want to think about that result just a little more.

I wonder how "make it legal in all cases to violently dismember children who are inconvenient to the mother" would poll.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 24, 2014 12:47 PM (w83aa)

102

A.)  Do you want Obamacare?

 

B.)  Do  you want to die tonight?

Posted by: Soona at March 24, 2014 12:47 PM (6RUDX)

103 A binary choice is obviously bad, while a third choice will just push people to the 'middle course'. Hence, the beauty of push-polls.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 12:47 PM (c1VyR)

104 Prime example of why most polls are shit.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 24, 2014 12:47 PM (T2V/1)

105

In 2009 we were told "There is a Healthcare Crisis!"

 

We were also told that "The flow of guns across the border into Mexico" is a "major problem!"

 

Well...neither was true.

 

So the Dems did things that made them true.

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 12:47 PM (De5Op)

106 What do you think elected officials who oppose the health care law should do now that the law has started to take effect?

A) Kick you in the nuts and call you a fag.
B) Do what they can to make the law work as well as possible.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 24, 2014 12:47 PM (+lsX1)

107 Let them die.

Posted by: Capt. Kirk at March 24, 2014 12:48 PM (nbGZj)

108 Do you want to be tortured to death or do you want an ice cream cone?

Posted by: Pew it stinks at March 24, 2014 12:48 PM (XeVA7)

109 So apparently the unreported number in this poll is that 51% answered repeal the POS, or as Pew interpreted it, undecided.

Posted by: mugiwara at March 24, 2014 12:48 PM (VIQkQ)

110 I went with bunga bunga. Is that bad?

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 24, 2014 12:49 PM (wNF3N)

111 Did someone say snu-snu?

Posted by: Helen Thomas at March 24, 2014 04:46 PM (ZKzrr)

 

 

Get back to the Infernal Regions!  Alright, which of you morons left the door unlocked again?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 24, 2014 12:49 PM (hLRSq)

112 Polls do exactly as intended -- shape public opinion. They're not for an accurate measurement of public sentiment. Have I taught you people anything about politics in all these years??

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 12:49 PM (c1VyR)

113 Do you support Obamacare? Or should women be barefoot and pregnant all day?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 12:49 PM (gOoFi)

114 What do you think elected officials who oppose the health care law should do now that the law has started to take effect? A) Command you to be raped by a warthog. B) Do what they can to make the law work as well as possible. Golly, since you put it that way... ...I'll take the warthog. That pain will only last a little while.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 12:49 PM (0HooB)

115 If it dies, it dies

Posted by: Drago at March 24, 2014 12:51 PM (kFxpe)

116 Most polls show that people support gun registration. Good luck pushing that through.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 12:51 PM (gmeXX)

117 What do you think elected officials who oppose the health care law should do now that the law has started to take effect?

A) Enshrine President Obama on Mt. Rushmore.
B) Do what they can to make the law work as well as possible.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 24, 2014 12:51 PM (+lsX1)

118 You know, I'm getting kinda tired of historic stuff.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 12:52 PM (0HooB)

119

So, Democraps are ...?

 

1) Evil pieces of shit.

2) Misguided pieces of vile filth.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 24, 2014 12:53 PM (6n332)

120 Which of the following two responses best represents your opinion? A. Improve and fix the flaws in Obamacare B. Laugh maniacally as you gleefully watch disadvantaged children die a slow and painful death caused by treatable diseases that would be covered under Obamacare?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 24, 2014 12:53 PM (SY2Kh)

121 Do you support Obamcare? Or do homosexuals deserve to get AIDS and die?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 12:53 PM (gOoFi)

122 Do you support Obamacare? Or should women be barefoot and pregnant all day? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 04:49 PM (gOoFi) Yes.

Posted by: BE Clinton at March 24, 2014 12:53 PM (7KJQS)

123 Alternate poll: What do you think elected officials who oppose the health care law should do now that the law has started to take effect? A) Continue letting the law destroy insurance plans, family finances, and jobs? or B) Repeal it?

Posted by: Votermom at March 24, 2014 12:54 PM (GSIDW)

124 We should ignore this divisive issue, and concentrate on amnesty.

Posted by: GOPe at March 24, 2014 12:54 PM (eoeps)

125 I continue to believe that when all is said and done, Obamacare will be nothing more than a tax increase. Explain - I think it will basically be repealed or abandoned other than the tax increases.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 12:54 PM (gmeXX)

126 God damn auto correct! BJ not BE!

Posted by: mugiwara at March 24, 2014 12:54 PM (7KJQS)

127 Pew... because our polls stick.

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 24, 2014 12:54 PM (6n332)

128 Kinda reminds me of the 'yes' or 'no' option for the "candidate" on communist regime ballots..

Posted by: Eisenhorn at March 24, 2014 12:54 PM (/8qpd)

129 86 U.S. Whites More Solidly Republican in Recent Years Party preferences more polarized by race and ethnicity under Obama by Jeffrey M. Jones ------------ Alternate title: Democrats lose voters due to Obama. I saw the poll he's using for that headline. None whites in 2008 identifying as democrats were in the high 50's. Latest poll is at 45. It's not just whites in the past five years.

Posted by: Adam at March 24, 2014 12:55 PM (Aif/5)

130 Pew or Pee You poll?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 24, 2014 12:55 PM (HsTG8)

131 Please vote for one of the following two choices: 1. Merge with Russia. 2. Be shot in the fucking head with a tank.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 24, 2014 12:55 PM (SY2Kh)

132 Would you like to swing on a star? Or die of cancer because OCare cancelled your coverage just as your treatment was about to start?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 12:56 PM (0HooB)

133 So only 30% supported the benign former option and 19% supported the malignant latter option. That really doesn't bode well for Obamacare supporters. Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 04:39 PM (gmeXX) ______________________ SH: Was wondering that myself. I haven't seen the Pew Poll in question, but from the above figures, (30% to fix it, 19% make it fail) it would appear 51% had no response

Posted by: alwyr at March 24, 2014 12:56 PM (V0j3u)

134 I continue to believe that when all is said and done, Obamacare will be nothing more than a tax increase. Explain - I think it will basically be repealed or abandoned other than the tax increases.

Posted by: SH

Which would remove the pretense of it not being a capitation tax and therefor explicitly illegal.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i][/b] at March 24, 2014 12:57 PM (cSFFy)

135 Obstructionist racists hate ObamaCare. And poor people. Everyone else wants to repair the law.

Posted by: Is this right? at March 24, 2014 12:57 PM (F58x4)

136 OK, so their poll says 53% disapprove of the law and of that 53%, 30% want the politicians to make the law work as well as possible.


And they're trying to spin this into a win for the law?

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 24, 2014 12:57 PM (GrtrJ)

137 129 Kinda reminds me of the 'yes' or 'no' option for the "candidate" on communist regime ballots.. Posted by: Eisenhorn at March 24, 2014 04:54 PM (/8qpd) Yeah, I don't think I would answer that question. You don't know who's keeping track of the responses.

Posted by: rickl at March 24, 2014 12:58 PM (zoehZ)

138 Would you like to swing on a star? A subtle or unintentional Hudson Hawk reference?

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 12:58 PM (c1VyR)

139 I continue to believe that when all is said and done, Obamacare will be nothing more than a tax increase. Explain - I think it will basically be repealed or abandoned other than the tax increases. Posted by: SH Which would remove the pretense of it not being a capitation tax and therefor explicitly illegal. ----- I'm talking about the medicare surcharge and net investment taxes on the rich.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 12:59 PM (gmeXX)

140 Make it fail? Shit, I would say Zerocare was suitable to heat a British hospital.

Posted by: maddogg at March 24, 2014 12:59 PM (xWW96)

141 Bunga-Bunga is his daughter!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 04:45 PM (h1D+w)



Mrs. Murphy!  Mrs. Murphy!

Posted by: Eddie, now missing half at March 24, 2014 12:59 PM (r/e1Q)

142 Treadwell (R) polling ahead of Begbish (D) in AK, 47-43.  Of course, being Rasmussen 2.0, Treadwell's probably up by double digits. 


Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 24, 2014 01:00 PM (Ec6wH)

143 A subtle or unintentional Hudson Hawk reference? Probably unintentional. I remember that song from my yoot. Don't think I've ever seen HH.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 01:00 PM (0HooB)

144 To curb healthcare costs, should we a) Incinerate babies for fuel or b) Euthanize elderly people who get the flu

Posted by: Votermom at March 24, 2014 01:00 PM (GSIDW)

145 On a related note: MSNBC’s Joy Reid: “There Are a Lot of Studies That Show, Literally, You’re More Likely To Be Beamed Up Into a UFO” Than Witness Voter Fraud… Weasel Zippers:

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 01:00 PM (t3UFN)

146

C) Watch as Christina Hendricks motorboats Kate Upton whilst Kate Upton puts sunscreen on Christina Hendricks

 

 

Um, please bring me a coffee?  I just don't want to stand up and get it because...ummm...would you please just get me a coffee?  I'll get yours next time.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 24, 2014 01:00 PM (JtwS4)

147 a) allow me to drive you home
b) drown abandoned in a pond

Posted by: Ted Kennedy at March 24, 2014 01:01 PM (kFxpe)

148 Talk about burying the lede -- a full 1 in 5 says LET IT BURN, rather than even trying to make it work. THAT is the story.

Posted by: Phelps at March 24, 2014 01:01 PM (wdjv2)

149

What would better describe your feelings:

 

A.)  You want to fuck Kate Upton.

 

B.)  You're  glad Reagan is dead.

Posted by: Soona at March 24, 2014 01:01 PM (6RUDX)

150 Gabe's wings are getting bigger. (Is he hitting more sites than Gutfeld's hitting the airwaves?) Gabriel Malor Skewers Liberal Media's Top 'Six Lies' About Contraception Mandate Case newsbusters.org

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 24, 2014 01:01 PM (IXrOn)

151 Here's the actual study with the numbers:

http://tinyurl.com/nsn6vwd


Seriously...they are trying to spin this into a plus?

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 24, 2014 01:01 PM (GrtrJ)

152 The first thing elected officials should do is sign up for SCOAMTTcare. It's a travesty they voted themselves free of it. Who is Pew? Why use a name that sounds churchy?

Posted by: Justamom at March 24, 2014 01:01 PM (Sptt8)

153 UNREAL: Harry Reid Says Republicans May Have Helped Putin Invade CrimeaÂ… Weasel Zippers: Quite honestly I am this far ( fingers real close together) in declaring in open season on democrats

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 01:01 PM (t3UFN)

154 Moar polls : Poll shows Alaska Democratic Sen. Mark Begich trailing for the first time
http://tinyurl.com/kku8hdg

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 24, 2014 01:01 PM (slXFW)

155 MSNBC’s Joy Reid: “There Are a Lot of Studies That Show, Literally, You’re More Likely To Be Beamed Up Into a UFO” Than Witness Voter Fraud… -------- That's also more likely than being investigated by the DOJ for voter fraud.

Posted by: Woman in Ohio who voted for Obama six times at March 24, 2014 01:02 PM (Aif/5)

156 146 ---"... a Lot of Studies...." Science!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 24, 2014 01:02 PM (dfYL9)

157 Maddogg:   "Zerocare"!!!!   Love it!!!!

Posted by: prescient11 at March 24, 2014 01:03 PM (tVTLU)

158 SH: Was wondering that myself. I haven't seen the Pew Poll in question, but from the above figures, (30% to fix it, 19% make it fail) it would appear 51% had no response ---- I don't know what the other 51% said. Assuming, they had no response, these results state that of the 49% who responded: 61% support fixing the law while 39% support making it fail. Those are not good numbers for Obamacare supporters if almost 40% actively support making something fail.

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 01:03 PM (gmeXX)

159 UNREAL: Harry Reid Says Republicans May Have Helped Putin Invade CrimeaÂ… -- This means Obama can seize these Republicans assets. Do their names start with K and rhyme with block?

Posted by: Votermom at March 24, 2014 01:03 PM (GSIDW)

160 Um, please bring me a coffee? I just don't want to stand up and get it because...ummm...would you please just get me a coffee? I'll get yours next time. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 24, 2014 05:00 PM (JtwS4) Only because you asked so nicely. Oh mighty Keurig gods, if you just grant to me one more attachment, my devotion to thee shall be complete.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 24, 2014 01:03 PM (VtjlW)

161 You're washed up on a deserted island with no hope of rescue.  Your first order of business would be:

A.  Help the professor find the materials needed to build a crude navigational device that could help pinpoint the exact location of the island

B.  Dork Ginger

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 24, 2014 01:03 PM (8ZskC)

162 Y'all see the bit on ceding US influence in the IMF attached to the Ukraine aid bill? Already passed in the house, so...

Posted by: Justamom at March 24, 2014 01:03 PM (Sptt8)

163 I'm not hitting you. Why are you punching yourself? I'm not hitting you. Why are you punching yourself? I'm not hitting you. Why are you punching yourself?

Posted by: Big Brother at March 24, 2014 01:04 PM (wu/TK)

164 Okay, I messed up.  Could someone hand me a towel?

Posted by: Soona at March 24, 2014 01:04 PM (6RUDX)

165 Well repeal and replace [with a flawed candidate] won, against a keep and fix [known state wide candidate.] Florida 13 dist. That's my only reference on this matter.

Posted by: redenzo at March 24, 2014 01:04 PM (WCnJW)

166 The U.S. will pay Russia $70.7 million for a single shuttle ride aboard the country’s Soyuz rocket Tuesday night, even as President Barack Obama fights for sanctions and penalties against Russia for its recent invasion of the Ukraine. With politicians wrangling over the most diplomatic way to respond to Russia’s aggression, NASA said the space pay-off to the Russian Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos) wouldn’t be affected by politics. “We do not expect the current Russia-Ukraine situation to have an impact on our longstanding civil space cooperation with Russia, which goes back decades, including our partnership on the International Space Station (ISS) program,” Trent Perrotto, a spokesman for the space agency, told FoxNews.com. Being unprepared has it's consequences.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 01:04 PM (t3UFN)

167 The poll makeup:

779 Republicans
1036 Democrats
1341 Independents

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 24, 2014 01:04 PM (GrtrJ)

168 Ace, Do you have a link for this?

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at March 24, 2014 01:04 PM (zDsvJ)

169 Bunga-Bunga!!!

Posted by: Silvio Berlusconi at March 24, 2014 01:05 PM (JtwS4)

170

146 On a related note:


 

MSNBC’s Joy Reid: “There Are a Lot of Studies That Show, Literally, You’re More Likely To Be Beamed Up Into a UFO” Than Witness Voter Fraud…
 

-------------

 

Which means...that they're going to be going all out this year, with their Vote Fraud.

 

They always telegraph what they're up to.

 

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 01:05 PM (De5Op)

171 Chicago Area Commuters--do you want your L train to:

a)  Arrive safely at the station

b)  Go airborne up the steps

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 24, 2014 01:06 PM (Ec6wH)

172 Also, unstated:  Out of the 3335 respondents, only 1351 (less than half) were Republican/Lean Republican.

And they still got 53% disapproval for the law.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 24, 2014 01:06 PM (GrtrJ)

173 Of course Reid is gonna throw that shit on the fan! Republicans had the opportunity to blame Crimea on obama, but they didn't. Democrats saw an opening and they took it. Politics loves a vacuum.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 01:06 PM (c1VyR)

174 "MSNBC’s Joy Reid: “There Are a Lot of Studies That Show, Literally, You’re More Likely To Be Beamed Up Into a UFO” Than Witness Voter Fraud… " Sounds like alien abduction cases are up more than I thought.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 01:06 PM (gOoFi)

175 Where is jwest? I need to know how he feels about it, and also to tell him to get fucked.

Posted by: maddogg at March 24, 2014 01:06 PM (xWW96)

176 Here is the link for the poll:
http://tinyurl.com/nsn6vwd

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 24, 2014 01:07 PM (GrtrJ)

177 With politicians wrangling over the most diplomatic way to respond to Russia's aggression, NASA said the space pay-off to the Russian Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos) wouldn't be affected by politics. Ros cos mos Moe Larry Curly

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 01:07 PM (h1D+w)

178 Do you support Obamacare? Or do you think that everybody should get sick and die?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 01:08 PM (gOoFi)

179 162 You're washed up on a deserted island with no hope of rescue. Your first order of business would be:

A. Help the professor find the materials needed to build a crude navigational device that could help pinpoint the exact location of the island

B. Dork Ginger

I'm going for C.  Dork Maryanne.

Posted by: pep at March 24, 2014 01:08 PM (4nR9/)

180 Chicago Area Commuters--do you want your L train to: a) Arrive safely at the station b) Go airborne up the steps Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 24, 2014 05:06 PM (Ec6wH) Chicago Area Commuters - which is more likely: a) Your L train will arrive safely at the station b) The Cubs will win the World Series

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 24, 2014 01:08 PM (VtjlW)

181

Would you rather:

Lick where Reggie Love's eyebrows used to be.

Ask Valerie Jarrett for her hand in marriage.

Posted by: Pew pronounced pee-you at March 24, 2014 01:08 PM (wAQA5)

182 Republicans' silence on obamacare will come back to bite them. By November, the Republicans will be blamed (by voters) for obamcare. (My previous prediction sill stands.)

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 01:08 PM (c1VyR)

183 If I was an American astronaut, I might just defect at this point.

Posted by: Votermom at March 24, 2014 01:08 PM (GSIDW)

184 Thank you, DangerGirl!

Posted by: Y-not has read a couple of comments at March 24, 2014 01:09 PM (zDsvJ)

185 Politics loves a vacuum. So, politics sucks like a hooker at a truck stop?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 01:09 PM (h1D+w)

186

167 The U.S. will pay Russia $70.7 million for a single shuttle ride aboard the countryÂ’s Soyuz rocket Tuesday night ...

 

----------

 

I hope that's a ride home for our two guys up there.

 

We don't need to be sending any more people up there...to be held hostage.

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 01:09 PM (De5Op)

187

Was there an option for: "If the Dems in Congress think its so great, then how come they're not subject to it themselves"? 

Posted by: Roscoe at March 24, 2014 01:09 PM (Xv7f/)

188 B. Dork Ginger I'm going for C. Dork Maryanne. D. Threesome FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 01:10 PM (h1D+w)

189 I just opened the latest dead tree missive from Reince Priebus.  He asks ever so nicely for my opinion on many important topics.  Among them: "strengthen our borders". 

Bite me, Reince.

Posted by: pep at March 24, 2014 01:10 PM (4nR9/)

190 BREAKING NEWS : MSNBCÂ’s Joy Reid literally dumb as a rock, studies show.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 24, 2014 01:10 PM (slXFW)

191 I don't know what the other 51% said. Assuming, they had no response, these results state that of the 49% who responded: 61% support fixing the law while 39% support making it fail. Those are not good numbers for Obamacare supporters if almost 40% actively support making something fail. Posted by: SH
..........
Look at the link:  http://tinyurl.com/nsn6vwd

It's 2 different questions.

53% disapprove of ACA
41% approve

then...

Of those who disapprove: 30 of that 53% want to make it work as well as possible
19 want it to fail.

So, libtards are lumping the 41% approval in with the 19% oppose but make it work group.  It is fucking dishonest to say the least.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 24, 2014 01:10 PM (Z7PrM)

192 "So, politics sucks like a hooker at a truck stop?" Oh, you should see Reggie. Chrome off of a bumper I tell you.

Posted by: Barry at March 24, 2014 01:10 PM (gOoFi)

193 184.  Your post makes it sound like the American astronaut actually has a choice.

Posted by: Roscoe at March 24, 2014 01:10 PM (Xv7f/)

194 The U.S. will pay Russia $70.7 million for a single shuttle ride aboard the countryÂ’s Soyuz rocket Tuesday night ...


$70.7 million includes one free checked bag and unlimited pretzel packets.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 24, 2014 01:10 PM (8ZskC)

195 Ah Cicero, your namesake made one too many puns, and Octavius, or as we know him Augustus, had his head cut off b/c the seas were too choppy.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 24, 2014 01:11 PM (tVTLU)

196 D. Threesome FTW! Posted by: rickb223

Prude.  Mrs. Howell has got it goin' ON.   Rowrrrrr.

Posted by: pep at March 24, 2014 01:11 PM (4nR9/)

197 oops.. I meant:

So, libtards are lumping the 41% approval in with the 30% oppose but make it work group. It is fucking dishonest to say the least.

so, 30% + 41% is 71% = overwhemling approval!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 24, 2014 01:11 PM (Z7PrM)

198 This "poll" is the Ru Ru joke.

Posted by: LadyS at March 24, 2014 01:11 PM (tMTsS)

199 I still can't believe they are trying to spin this as a plus.


Posted by: DangerGirl at March 24, 2014 01:12 PM (GrtrJ)

200 194 If you are an American astronaut in the space station, would you rather a) defect to Russia or b) stay up there forever

Posted by: Votermom at March 24, 2014 01:12 PM (GSIDW)

201 The U.S. will pay Russia $70.7 million for a single shuttle ride aboard the countryÂ’s Soyuz rocket Tuesday night ... $70.7 million includes one free checked bag and unlimited pretzel packets. $150.00 For the second bag.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 01:12 PM (h1D+w)

202 OT:  OK, which of you Morons is this?  http://tinyurl.com/mbayq2k

Posted by: Country Singer at March 24, 2014 01:12 PM (r/e1Q)

203 Here's an idea: why not let insurance companies compete in the free market? Gee, and see what happens?

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at March 24, 2014 01:12 PM (dTh2r)

204 As far as I could ever tell, Pew has been reliably Left-wing. I doubt they've changed.

Posted by: backhoe at March 24, 2014 01:12 PM (ULH4o)

205 I just opened the latest dead tree missive from Reince Priebus. He asks ever so nicely for my opinion on many important topics. Among them: "strengthen our borders". Bite me, Reince. Posted by: pep at March 24, 2014 05:10 PM (4nR9/)
Is Reince going to build the dang fence?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 24, 2014 01:12 PM (XeVA7)

206 U.S. astronauts are back to riding 60's era rockets. Yeah, we peaked. And now we're de-volving.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 01:12 PM (c1VyR)

207 I'm an optimist, so I'll make another optimistic prediction. I pretty much think that Obamacare will be either repealed or abanadoned (arguably it has already been abandoned). In its wake, it is going to leave a lot of negative court rulings which will affect existing and future liberal programs for a long time to come (e.g., the Obamacare ruling, even though I believe Roberts screwed it up).

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 01:12 PM (gmeXX)

208 "I still can't believe they are trying to spin this as a plus." Straws. Grasping.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 01:12 PM (gOoFi)

209 so, 30% + 41% is 71% = overwhemling approval!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 24, 2014 05:11 PM (Z7PrM)



See, you dumb inbred racist hillbillies!  Common Core math works!

Posted by: Country Singer at March 24, 2014 01:14 PM (r/e1Q)

210 I just opened the latest dead tree missive from Reince Priebus. He asks ever so nicely for my opinion on many important topics. Among them: "strengthen our borders". Bite me, Reince. Whilst cleaning out my inbox, I ran across a couple of surveys from the RNC. Amazingly, their questions weren't much different than this P-U "poll." The next dead tree survey I get, I'll send it back with the proper questions/answers on it. And no money, because funemployment.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 01:14 PM (0HooB)

211

You realize this is  the talking point, right?  You realize it's going to work, if the R party sits  on their thumbs and lets the meme take hold, don't you?

 

Republicans are  ACTIVELY  trying to  make  healthcare fail. 

 

Your  public polls  are mere evidence of the private polling that's been done. 

 

 

Posted by: BurtTC at March 24, 2014 01:15 PM (TOk1P)

212

183
Republicans' silence on obamacare will come back to bite them.

 

 

By November, the Republicans will be blamed (by voters) for obamcare. (My previous prediction sill stands.)

 

Posted by: Soothsayer

 

-----------

 

What do you mean by "silence", sooth?

 

Of course the Dems want Republicans to "fix it".

That way, they can blame the whole mess on them.

 

So they shouldn't touch it.

 

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 01:16 PM (De5Op)

213 Amazingly, their questions weren't much different than this P-U "poll." --- These surveys are so incredibly biased, they are useless. Wow, 90% of republicans support repealing Obamacare. All this proves is 10% of any sample size are lunatics. I'm more interested in what are you as a party going to do to actually try to repeal it. And don't lecture me about having the votes and being in the minority party. I understand. I also understand that the Constitution gave the House quite a bit of power. How are you going to use that?

Posted by: SH at March 24, 2014 01:16 PM (gmeXX)

214

  "146 On a related note:
MSNBC’s Joy Reid: “There Are a Lot of Studies That Show, Literally, You’re More Likely To Be Beamed Up Into a UFO” Than Witness Voter Fraud…"


***

To  be  fair ,  they're  looking  for  UFO's  and  want  to  believe  in  them  ...
 

Posted by: Roscoe at March 24, 2014 01:16 PM (Xv7f/)

215 So basically on page 4 of the top-line questionnaire doc: http://www.people-press.org/files/legacy-questionnaires/Health%20Care%20Topline%20for%20Release.pdf Absolutely infuriating.

Posted by: Y-not has read a couple of comments at March 24, 2014 01:17 PM (zDsvJ)

216 Pentagon Changes Special Forces Mission From Killing Or Capturing Terrorists To Gaining “Trust,” Elevating “Non-Lethal Skills”… This is what happens when you put Democrats in charge of the military. Weasel Zippers: Everyday in every way they are killing the Military.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 01:18 PM (t3UFN)

217 On a related note: MSNBC’s Joy Reid: “There Are a Lot of Studies That Show, Literally, You’re More Likely To Be Beamed Up Into a UFO� Than Witness Voter Fraud�" *** To be fair , they're looking for UFO's and want to believe in them They long for the anal probings......

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 01:18 PM (h1D+w)

218 The really maddening thing is that these sorts of obviously bullshit push polling routinely throw the GOP establishment into hysterical fainting fits.

Last round of government shutdown, one of the networks ran a poll with absolutely teeteringly biased internals, oversampling Democrats so massively that they might as well have just phoned the DNC.

That poll showed -- wait for it -- that the "public" blamed the shutdown entirely on evil Republicans.

Two seconds after the release of that poll, the GOP establishment panicked, folded, and gave Obama everything he wanted. Spines of steel, I tell you. Cold-rolled, hardened steel.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2014 01:19 PM (noWW6)

219

The U.S. will pay Russia $70.7 million for a single shuttle ride aboard the countryÂ’s Soyuz rocket Tuesday night ...

 

 

-----------------------------------------------------

 

 

Then Putin will declare that it'll cost $140 million  to bring them back.


Posted by: Soona at March 24, 2014 01:19 PM (6RUDX)

220 218 Pentagon Changes Special Forces Mission From Killing Or Capturing Terrorists To Gaining “Trust,” Elevating “Non-Lethal Skills”…

Also, singing Kumbayah. 

Posted by: pep at March 24, 2014 01:19 PM (4nR9/)

221


When did you stop beating your wife?


a.   Tomorrow

 

b.   Never   

Posted by: Frankling at March 24, 2014 01:20 PM (Xv7f/)

222 I saw Bunga Bunga open for Oingo Boingo in Walla Walla, WA in '96.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 24, 2014 01:20 PM (1CroS)

223 They are going to lose it come 2014 should the GOP crush the 'rats and take the Senate in a big way. Totally, completely fucking lose it.

Posted by: eureka! at March 24, 2014 01:20 PM (06U7A)

224 @218 Well it is all about Muslim outreach. We don't want them to think us hatey haters.

Posted by: NASA at March 24, 2014 01:20 PM (gOoFi)

225 The former Chief of the UK Naval Staff, Lord West of Spithead, has said that U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry did not understand the history of Crimea before speaking out on the issue, and that the European Union was guilty of encouraging Ukrainians without being able to offer a solution to their domestic problems.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 01:20 PM (t3UFN)

226 We're going to kill our enemies with kindness and make them our friends.

Posted by: Samantha Power at March 24, 2014 01:21 PM (Aif/5)

227 Well done, AnonymousDrivel

Posted by: GOPe at March 24, 2014 01:21 PM (eoeps)

228 Kindness sure worked for me.

Posted by: Genghis Khan at March 24, 2014 01:21 PM (8ZskC)

229 The UFO Science is settled.

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 01:22 PM (l1Dr3)

230 The former Chief of the UK Naval Staff, Lord West of Spithead, has said that U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry did not understand the history of Crimea before speaking out on the issue, and that the European Union was guilty of encouraging Ukrainians without being able to offer a solution to their domestic problems.

Typical condescending Brit with nothing much about which to be condescending. 

Doesn't mean he isn't right.

Posted by: pep at March 24, 2014 01:22 PM (4nR9/)

231 Joy Reid: "There Are a Lot of Studies That Show, Literally, YouÂ’re More Likely To Be Beamed Up Into a UFO Than Witness Voter Fraud"

She has obviously gone to the Joe Biden School Of Use Of The Word "Literally".

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2014 01:22 PM (noWW6)

232 It's 2 different questions: 53% disapprove of ACA 41% approve ChiTown Jerry ________________ ChiTown: I find these numbers quite 'disturbing' since the difference between the two is WELL within the historical Margin of Fraud

Posted by: alwyr at March 24, 2014 01:22 PM (V0j3u)

233 "Lord West of Spithead" What a $20 handle. Think anybody ever called him "Lord West of Shithead" before?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 01:22 PM (gOoFi)

234 We're going to kill our enemies with kindness and make them our friends. Posted by: Samantha Power at March 24, 2014 05:21 PM (Aif/5) And wait till she tells you what they have in store for our Allies?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 01:22 PM (t3UFN)

235     222 The U.S. will pay Russia $70.7 million for a single shuttle ride aboard the countryÂ’s Soyuz rocket Tuesday night ...


-----------------------------------------------------


Then Putin will declare that it'll cost $140 million to bring them back.


***
  And Kerry will condemn it, proclaiming that to be the 19th century to a 21st century problem.  Then he'll pay every dime. 

Posted by: Frankling at March 24, 2014 01:22 PM (Xv7f/)

236 Damn sock

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 01:22 PM (eoeps)

237 whatafuckinday...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 24, 2014 01:23 PM (V22Sh)

238 Oh mighty Keurig gods, if you just grant to me one more attachment, my devotion to thee shall be complete.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 24, 2014 05:03 PM (VtjlW)



The Keurig ice cream pod?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 24, 2014 01:23 PM (b6nAI)

239

What a $20 handle. Think anybody ever called him "Lord West of Shithead" before?

 

--

 

No, he's here

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 01:23 PM (eoeps)

240 236 "Lord West of Spithead"


What a $20 handle. Think anybody ever called him "Lord West of Shithead" before?

I dunno.  It's kind of hard to improve on Spithead. 

Posted by: pep at March 24, 2014 01:23 PM (4nR9/)

241 Think anybody ever called him "Lord West of Shithead" before?

I believe he posts here.

Posted by: HR at March 24, 2014 01:23 PM (ZKzrr)

242 Typical condescending Brit with nothing much about which to be condescending. Doesn't mean he isn't right. Posted by: pep at March 24, 2014 05:22 PM (4nR9/) He'a 100% right. kerry would not know the history if it walked up and smack him in his horse face

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 01:23 PM (t3UFN)

243 Voter fraud = Myth Vote Suppression = Epidemic

Posted by: MSDNC at March 24, 2014 01:23 PM (8ceKF)

244 Do you support Obamacare? Or are you one of those effing hatey Haters that hate all the time?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 01:24 PM (gOoFi)

245 Oh mighty Keurig gods, if you just grant to me one more attachment, my devotion to thee shall be complete. No frothing wand on those things?

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 01:24 PM (l1Dr3)

246 Leftists/the Demagogue Party comprehend and "appreciate" that Atheized human beings are social animals, and as such, understand how they can be "herded."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:25 PM (9W+0f)

247 Aside from the conservative challengers, Republicans aren't campaigning at all against obamacare. The only thing out their for the "masses" are a few ads produced by the Kochs.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 01:25 PM (c1VyR)

248 Yeah, it increased our ability to finish in second place to 1.2 billion communists and slowly nose-dive our economy into slow ruin. And forced the closing of over 40,000 American factories. And ruining my career. Thanks, BJ Cliton.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 01:25 PM (0HooB)

249 You know what they say: Spithead beats Horseface, every time.

Posted by: Votermom at March 24, 2014 01:26 PM (GSIDW)

250 "I believe he posts here..." Why, yes, I do.

Posted by: Lord West of Shithead at March 24, 2014 01:26 PM (gOoFi)

251 Democrats are going to have to cheat like a mofo in order to prevent    major losses this fall.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 01:26 PM (eoeps)

252 "They are going to lose it come 2014 should the GOP crush the 'rats and take the Senate in a big way. Totally, completely fucking lose it."

And then they'll calm down once they realize that the new Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has absolutely no intention of confronting or overturning the Obama agenda. Merely of co-opting it in lucrative ways.

Remember what happened the last time the GOP controlled the Senate? With the GOP also in control of the House and the White House? Domestic non-military non-security discretionary spending up 36% by the time they were done.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2014 01:27 PM (noWW6)

253 254 Democrats are going to have to cheat like a mofo in order to prevent major losses this fall. -- Challenge accepted

Posted by: Iranian Weasel in the WH at March 24, 2014 01:27 PM (GSIDW)

254 And, yes, I do despise the haughty, French-looking John Kerry.

Posted by: Lord West of Shithead at March 24, 2014 01:27 PM (gOoFi)

255 Democrats are going to have to cheat like a mofo in order to prevent major losses this fall. The Civil War Veterans of America are always behind the Democrat Ticket.

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 01:27 PM (l1Dr3)

256 If the poll first explained "complete lives" and was honest about healthcare rationing, they would find a bit more support for "sabotage that mother!"

And if you are around Jwest another approach to dealing with "limited resources" is called freedom. You see, that is were those who find themselves in binds and unable to come up with resources to cope ask for charity from their neighbors or find a way to trade for care.

People still die as they always will, but I would much rather take my chances appealing to my neighbors and my Church than have no where to go but to the State whose interest is only to pay less for care.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at March 24, 2014 01:28 PM (IVgIK)

257

254 Democrats are going to have to cheat like a mofo in order to prevent major losses this fall.

 

Well yeah...that's why they're already saying that "Voter fraud doesn't exist".

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 01:28 PM (De5Op)

258 The Civil War Veterans of America are always behind the Democrat Ticket.

Even the ones who fought in the Grand Army of the Republic.

Posted by: HR at March 24, 2014 01:28 PM (ZKzrr)

259 "The Civil War Veterans of America are always behind the Democrat Ticket." 106%

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 24, 2014 01:28 PM (gOoFi)

260 "This conjunction of an immense political elite establishment and a large Media industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the political-media complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge political and propaganda machinery of Media with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

Posted by: Dwight D. Eisenhower--Stuff I said on the internet 1960 at March 24, 2014 01:28 PM (XfLxL)

261 Ok, how much did you have to pay to get a GOofi hash    like that?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 01:29 PM (eoeps)

262 Fear is one of the most powerful motivating forces, especially when things are going poorly and people lose all self confidence. The demagogue will then offer a choice between a preferred option and a fear-inducing option.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:29 PM (9W+0f)

263 248 Oh mighty Keurig gods, if you just grant to me one more attachment, my devotion to thee shall be complete. ---- No frothing wand on those things? ---- I gotta say, I'm digging this Nespresso Vertuoline we got recently.

Posted by: Y-not has read a couple of comments at March 24, 2014 01:29 PM (zDsvJ)

264 Death, or Bunga-Bunga?

Posted by: RS at March 24, 2014 01:29 PM (YAGV/)

265 People are afraid of a lot of things, so constructing a fear-inducing option isn't that difficult. People are, among other things, afraid of not conforming sufficiently and/or of being perceived as "negative."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:30 PM (9W+0f)

266 "146 On a related note: MSNBC’s Joy Reid: “There Are a Lot of Studies That Show, Literally, You’re More Likely To Be Beamed Up Into a UFO” Than Witness Voter Fraud…" ***
To be fair , they're looking for UFO's and want to believe in them ...

Posted by: Roscoe at March 24, 2014 05:16 PM (Xv7f/)




This concerns me because we all witnessed voter fraud, when Al Franken was elected, and the election shitweasel "found" a box of ballots in his trunk the next day. The fact that the Republican'ts didn't scream bloody murder all the way to the supreme court verifies that they are a bunch of nutless gutless spineless weasels that deserve to lose.



*looks for the UFO's that are literally going to beam me up...finds nothing*




whadayaknow...another thing that Joy Reid is wrong about.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 24, 2014 01:30 PM (V22Sh)

267 They will therefore flock toward the preferred option.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:31 PM (9W+0f)

268 The very reliable Generic Congressional Ballot for midterms shows the D's with a slight edge. I understand that to CAC, this means huge Republican victories. But in reality..

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 01:31 PM (c1VyR)

269 The fact that the Republican'ts didn't scream bloody murder all the way to the supreme court verifies that they are a bunch of nutless gutless spineless weasels that deserve to lose. What the fuck, man? That was completely uncalled for.

Posted by: Weasel at March 24, 2014 01:32 PM (l1Dr3)

270 Telegraph News ‏@TelegraphNews Investigators believe Malaysia Airlines flight #MH370 crashed in suicide mission, sources say http://fw.to/KvzYQz

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 24, 2014 01:32 PM (ZPrif)

271 The preferred option gains adherents and momentum and becomes even more "preferred."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:32 PM (9W+0f)

272 Sounds like an poll Rove would produce.  Even he last week was pounding the drum against trying to take down obamacare.  He knows that whoever is in power they will need the well of one sixth of the economy to draw from the illusion that the country still has its nose above water.  Rove and the other insiders need to keep the spigots of borrowed and tax money open so they can get theirs while the getting is still good.


I'd bet good money that he's paid handsomely for the "opinions" he spouts as a Fox contributor.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 24, 2014 01:32 PM (BZAd3)

273 Posted by: HR at March 24, 2014 05:28 PM (ZKzrr)



Catbert! I see your Cyclones have handily knocked out the last NC team in the bracket...well done. They did for NC Central as well. I hope they go all the way.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 24, 2014 01:32 PM (V22Sh)

274 "Soothsayer, campaign season hasn't even started yet; there's still plenty of time!"...in 5, 4, 3, 2, ..

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 01:32 PM (c1VyR)

275 OT: if you didn't click on the sidebar link already, do so on the one to "baby conducts choir".  Amazing.

Posted by: pep at March 24, 2014 01:33 PM (4nR9/)

276 "What the fuck, man? That was completely uncalled for. " Seriously. You want a defamation suit on your ass?

Posted by: Weasels Int'l Local #712 at March 24, 2014 01:33 PM (gOoFi)

277 þ@TelegraphNews Investigators believe Malaysia Airlines flight #MH370 crashed in suicide mission That's how you Kamikaze.

Posted by: Larry David at March 24, 2014 01:33 PM (l1Dr3)

278 In fact, the D's advantage actually went up a point in the last week. How the hell did that happen?

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 24, 2014 01:34 PM (c1VyR)

279 Opposition to the preferred/"herded" option is then further stigmatized to induce the "check mate effect."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:34 PM (9W+0f)

280

He knows that whoever is in power they will need the well of one sixth of the economy to draw from the illusion that the country still has its nose above water. Rove and the other insiders need to keep the spigots of borrowed and tax money open so they can get theirs while the getting is still good.

 

--

 

One    can fake the    numbers, or reduce the size of government so that the private economy can begin to grow again.    All    I   ask for is one party to stand for the latter.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 24, 2014 01:34 PM (eoeps)

281
No frothing wand on those things?

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 05:24 PM (l1Dr3)



It comes mailed in a discreet brown package.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 24, 2014 01:34 PM (b6nAI)

282 In fact, the D's advantage actually went up a point in the last week. Michele is out of the country with no press coverage?

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 01:35 PM (l1Dr3)

283 At this stage only pariahs oppose the preferred option and can be tormented at will by Altruists.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:35 PM (9W+0f)

284 "U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry did not understand the history of Crimea before speaking out on the issue." Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 05:20 PM (t3UFN) _______________________ What does "context" have to do with anything? Those Ukranian ass wipes aren't even on-board with my latest Climate Change plan - which I WILL admit is pretty seriously nuanced, and obviously too sophisticated for the average peasant to fully appreciate

Posted by: John (Forged In Vietnam) Kerry at March 24, 2014 01:35 PM (V0j3u)

285 MOSCOW – Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov said on Monday he planned to relocate his company that runs the Brooklyn Nets basketball team to Russia, in keeping with the Kremlin’s call on Russian businessmen to repatriate their assets to help combat new US sanctions. The United States and European Union have imposed visa bans and asset freezes on officials and businessmen believed to be close to Russian President Vladimir Putin in protest at Moscow’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea region. The Russian billionaire had said previously that he planned to relocate the company that runs the NBA team to Russia, but his comments to reporters in the Kremlin underlined his support for Putin. Kinda funny and a big FU to obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 01:36 PM (t3UFN)

286 MOSCOW – Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov said on Monday he planned to relocate his company that runs the Brooklyn Nets basketball team to Russia Isn't Obama's pal, Jay-Z an interest in the Nets?

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 01:38 PM (l1Dr3)

287 And, yes, I do despise the haughty, French-looking John Kerry.

Posted by: Lord West of Shithead at March 24, 2014 05:27 PM (gOoFi)



Who, by the way, served in VietNam. Can't forget that.




Sorry Weasels, but I was referring to a specific TYPE of weasel...namely the nutless gutless spineless ones. If you possess one of the three (nuts, guts and-or spines) you are of course exempt from the loser category. I hope this clarifies my position.



And if not...a song for you, to make up for my callous disregard:



http://youtu.be/k76IGLi6jWI

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 24, 2014 01:38 PM (V22Sh)

288 I hope this clarifies my position. Apology accepted. Note : We would also have accepted 'Crap Weasel'.

Posted by: Weasel at March 24, 2014 01:39 PM (l1Dr3)

289 A policy of mea culpa will make us respected and strong.

Posted by: Samantha Power at March 24, 2014 01:40 PM (Aif/5)

290 Isn't Obama's pal, Jay-Z an interest in the Nets? Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 05:38 PM (l1Dr3) Yeah but money talks and bullshit walks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 24, 2014 01:40 PM (t3UFN)

291 I'm just going to leave this here.
http://is.gd/6hjkti

Posted by: HR at March 24, 2014 01:41 PM (ZKzrr)

292 What are the odds Beyoncé plays a set at the Crimea / Russia repatriation ceremony?

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 01:42 PM (l1Dr3)

293 "I hope this clarifies my position." Doesn't get you very far with us, Bub.

Posted by: Nutless Gutless Spineless Weasels Int'l Local 119 at March 24, 2014 01:43 PM (gOoFi)

294

How do we know that's really John Kerry?

 

Kerry is rich enough to afford a stunt double.

He could be kicking back on one of his yachts, letting this stunt double do all the work.

 

I mean this guy looks kinda like John Kerry.

But how do we know it's really him?

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 01:44 PM (De5Op)

295 There's a video on Netflix called 'Breaking China' that pegs the 10 year number at 57,000 factories. Of course they don't blame BJ Clinton, just the WTO. I slammed my forehead on the coffee table repeatedly as I watched. I still can not comprehend that the American people are so incredibly stupid that not only would they give BJ a pass, that they would ever consider his wife as a candidate for President. Now I'm even more depressed. We got laid off right before the holidays back in '94 thanks to that. My life hasn't been the same since. Just think: we have the world's largest economy. What would our economy look like if we made our own products instead of China? I'd like to see someone crunch some numbers on that one. I'd do it, except Guinness.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 01:44 PM (0HooB)

296 "293 A policy of mea culpa will make us respected and strong. Posted by: Samantha Power at March 24, 2014 05:40 PM (Aif/5)" A policy of alliances and diplomacy would probably work better. There's not much to be gained by a policy of Antieuropeanism in the 21st century, which, given Polar Bear stupidity, will probably end up being China's Century.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:44 PM (9W+0f)

297 $1000 dollars from a Million Chinese Waiters can't be wong.

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2014 01:44 PM (l1Dr3)

298 Red River is starting on Turner Classic Movies for the east coast.

Posted by: Villainous John Wayne at March 24, 2014 01:44 PM (wu/TK)

299 @59 Soona "Think hard, citizen. Your life depends on your answer." Actually your answer doesn't even matter and the last thing we want is "you to think."

Posted by: Room 101 at March 24, 2014 01:44 PM (0TLU3)

300 Democrats have been waiting for ObamaCare to become popular for four years.

And counting.

Congressional leaders and senior White House advisers have been saying since 2010 that public opinion will turn their way sometime soon. Be patient, they have told anxious members of their party again and again.

“I think as people learn about the bill, and now that the bill is enacted, it’s going to become more and more popular,” Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” in March 2010. “So I predict ... by November those who voted for healthcare will find it an asset, those who voted against it will find it a liability.”

Posted by: Lee Harvey Oswald at March 24, 2014 01:44 PM (e8kgV)

301 But, fortunately, the Chinese have tiny penises, so it won't be so bad.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:45 PM (9W+0f)

302 Doesn't get you very far with us, Bub.

Posted by: Nutless Gutless Spineless Weasels Int'l Local 119 at March 24, 2014 05:43 PM (gOoFi)




You should have just said "Politicians Int'l Local 119", that whole truth in advertising thing y'know.




PS - whaddaya gonna do, cry on me?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 24, 2014 01:45 PM (V22Sh)

303 "But, fortunately, the Chinese have tiny penises, so it won't be so bad..." Oh, you have such rarge penis. Vewy, vewy rarge.

Posted by: ChiComs at March 24, 2014 01:46 PM (gOoFi)

304 When people say they want it "fixed," ALL they mean is they want it to cost less, lower premiums, lower deductibles, lower co-pays.

If the question predicated that costs were NOT going to be lowered by the "fix," that would knock out roughly 99.44% of those who chose that option.

Posted by: Adjoran at March 24, 2014 01:46 PM (QIQ6j)

305 Spineless Weasel, you say? So. They'd be good at negotiating corners in tight spaces, right?

Posted by: Richard Gere at March 24, 2014 01:47 PM (l1Dr3)

306 It's not like that time the Democrat Party demanded the unconditional surrender of any and all nations capable of acting as a check and balance upon the Soviet Union, thereby getting America involved in all sorts of land wars in Asia. After giving "Uncle Joe" all of Easter Europe and a third of Germany pro bono.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:48 PM (9W+0f)

307 Would being spineless make them tougher to de-claw? ...asking for a friend.

Posted by: Richard Gere at March 24, 2014 01:48 PM (l1Dr3)

308 "So. They'd be good at negotiating corners in tight spaces, right?" Don't even think about it.

Posted by: Nutless Gutless Spineless Weasels Int'l Local 119 at March 24, 2014 01:48 PM (gOoFi)

309 This is what I meant a few posts ago about polls trying to make you "feel" something. Something that probably isn't true. Dems want you to feel certain feels.* Shorter version: poll manipulation.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 24, 2014 01:48 PM (rY8rX)

310 So. They'd be good at negotiating corners in tight spaces, right?

Posted by: Richard Gere at March 24, 2014 05:47 PM (l1Dr3)




Whatever you do in your off time is no business of mine. Here, let me give you their strongly worded letter of protest, their address is right there on the letterhead...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 24, 2014 01:48 PM (V22Sh)

311 And making sure that the Kuomintang would lose China.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:48 PM (9W+0f)

312 But, fortunately, the Chinese have tiny penises, so it won't be so bad. The first Bodies exhibit overcompensated amusingly so.

Posted by: Museum musings at March 24, 2014 01:49 PM (wu/TK)

313 "...asking for a friend." A friend? Named Uranus maybe?

Posted by: Nutless Gutless Spineless Weasels Int'l Local 119 at March 24, 2014 01:50 PM (gOoFi)

314 Sorry not reading over 300 comments to see how many times this has already been said but where is my "roll the law and the regs back to Dec 2009" option.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 24, 2014 01:50 PM (dUS+X)

315 And, of course, Dulles obsession with castrating both Britain and France worked out brilliantly. A UN Security Council consisting of the Soviet Union, Communist China, a castrated Britain, and a castrated and bitter France. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:51 PM (9W+0f)

316 polling data does not exist to report public opinion it exists to manipulate it.

Posted by: Shoey at March 24, 2014 01:51 PM (vA94g)

317 In the land of the 4 incher, the 6 incher is king.

Posted by: Things You Learn Traveling in Asia at March 24, 2014 01:51 PM (ZPrif)

318 On Joy Reid and voter fraud. 59 districts in Philly recorded no Romney votes in 2012. This comprised 19,605 votes for Obama and 0 for Romney. Obama got 93% of the black vote in Philly. It's almost impossible to have this happen, incurring random mistakes and maybe one Romney voter. Just one. Judging by the open fraud and money exchanges with the corrupt Philly pols, that AG Kane is trying to cover up, it's impossible to believe that those districts aren't nests of voter fraud.

Posted by: redenzo at March 24, 2014 01:51 PM (WCnJW)

319 But, Chiang was "undemocratic" and Britain and France were "imperialistic" so there was nothing to be done.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:52 PM (9W+0f)

320 "the 10 year number at 57,000 factories. Of course they don't blame BJ Clinton, just the WTO."

It's multifactorial. There are a whole bunch of other structural reasons beyond China MFN and Mexico NAFTA why it became less and less of a going proposition to manufacture in America.

Note that about 80% of those reasons had to do with liberal policies. Environment, labor, employer liability, energy costs, identity politics in the workplace, et cetera.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2014 01:52 PM (noWW6)

321 323 On Joy Reid and voter fraud. 59 districts in Philly recorded no Romney votes in 2012. This comprised 19,605 votes for Obama and 0 for Romney. Obama got 93% of the black vote in Philly. It's almost impossible to have this happen, incurring random mistakes and maybe one Romney voter. Just one. Judging by the open fraud and money exchanges with the corrupt Philly pols, that AG Kane is trying to cover up, it's impossible to believe that those districts aren't nests of voter fraud. Posted by: redenzo at March 24, 2014 05:51 PM (WCnJW) there is no vote fraud! how many times do we have to tell you!

Posted by: GOP Establishment. at March 24, 2014 01:53 PM (vA94g)

322 Fortunately, Mao hated Khrushchev. That's all that prevented Communism from taking over all of the Old World. Khrushchev's and CPSU's imbecilic "racism" toward the Chinese.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:55 PM (9W+0f)

323 What a shock, lying shill. media demonstrates themselves to be lying shills.

President Boyfriend must be protected.

At. All. Costs.

Posted by: acethepug at March 24, 2014 01:57 PM (H2Bl1)

324 But hey, isolating, pariahizing, and weakening Russia as much as possible and pushing Russia toward Communist China as much as possible might fix that.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:58 PM (9W+0f)

325

309 When people say they want it "fixed," ALL they mean is they want it to cost less, lower premiums, lower deductibles, lower co-pays.

 

If the question predicated that costs were NOT going to be lowered by the "fix," that would knock out roughly 99.44% of those who chose that option.

 

Posted by: Adjoran at March 24, 2014 05:46 PM (QIQ6j)

 

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Yep, exactly.

 

Dems keep saying..."fix it".

But they aren't saying what that means.

 

The idiots who voted for Dems, want Ocare to deliver on the promises that were made.

 

Where is our $2500/year savings?

Where are our Lower Premiums?

 

So far, it's been nothing like it was advertised.

And the Liar-in-Chief, with his army of paid liars, keep lying about it.

 

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 01:59 PM (De5Op)

326 Russia must be punished. The Russians have spent far too long enjoying the wonders of Communism. Now, they must feel pain.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 01:59 PM (9W+0f)

327 We're over 250 so I'll go OT. Anyone else have this flu thing? I can barely focus my eyeballs. I crawled to the kitchen for some OJ, and just before I passed out on the way back, my parrot landed on me. "Whatcha doin?" "Shut up" "Peanut butter?" "I will end you." this crap is the plague. I'm coughing up kittens and baby mice.

Posted by: tangonine at March 24, 2014 02:02 PM (x3YFz)

328
The Ausies are saying some of the few bits of debris they've recovered from the Indian Ocean was indeed from the missing 777. No link yet.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 24, 2014 02:02 PM (0IhFx)

329 I never like seeing strangers, that's cuz no stranger ever good newsed me.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2014 02:03 PM (ZshNr)

330 Telegraph News ‏@TelegraphNews Investigators believe Malaysia Airlines flight #MH370 crashed in suicide mission, sources say Posted by: Costanza Defense "This is just more speculation. I checked the map myself and there is no Country on Earth called "Suicide Mission". ........Joy Reid

Posted by: Daybrother at March 24, 2014 02:05 PM (/Z+Rq)

331
24 hour rule on that Aussie thing though....I haven't seen the media pick it up yet.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 24, 2014 02:05 PM (0IhFx)

332 Every single European country must be completely castrated. And as many European women and children as possible should be bombed. Because 'we da police.' Just like the Founding Fathers and the Constitution wanted. Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 24, 2014 02:06 PM (9W+0f)

333 this crap is the plague. I'm coughing up kittens and baby mice. I had a full-size Navy Seal swimming around in my chestal cavity. I hadn't been that sick in years. Not one, but two trips to the ER, then a week in the horsepiddle. Lost 15 pounds and had my genetic structure altered by all the medicine they gave me every four hours, on the hour. You have my sympathy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 02:06 PM (0HooB)

334 Posted by: tangonine -------- You need to go to the hospital. You don't have a parrot.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 24, 2014 02:07 PM (O2Bfr)

335

263.   Dwight D. Eisenhower--Stuff I said on the internet 1960

 

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Keep going.  Feast your eyes on what Dwight had to say next about the unholy alliance of the federal government and university research. I'm serious. Ike was as concerned about that as he was the military-industrial complex.


And, for a real treat, check out the commencement speech Ike gave at Defiance College in May, 1963.    Ike said if things ever get out of hand, go  for radical revolution and a constitutional convention to put it right.  No joke.  He did.

We're there.

Posted by: Frankling at March 24, 2014 02:07 PM (Xv7f/)

336 Thank God.

Posted by: Adam at March 24, 2014 02:07 PM (Aif/5)

337 Speaking of china and factories...bill gates said his stupid "in the future lots of jobs will be done by robots, people will have to deal oh and let's make 11 million illegals legal cause that will definitely help" but I have been thinking, the jobs aren't being done by robots, they are being done by the Chinese, and increasingly as the Chinese gain wealth and regulations, by the Malaysians. Sure some work will be robotized, but a lot will still be done by actual humans. Just not Americans.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 24, 2014 02:07 PM (RZ8pf)

338 So, does actively working to make it fail entail forcing its implementation, as written?

Posted by: West Town at March 24, 2014 02:08 PM (ksjfI)

339

332...Anyone else have this flu thing?

 

Not yet.

Sorry it's having it's way with you, tango9.

 

Been trying to avoid crowds lately...but I know it's only a matter of time before I get it too.

 

Are you taking Mucinex?

It works good on the phlegm attacks.

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 02:08 PM (De5Op)

340

342 Thank God.

 

Heh.

I think he's getting worse.

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 02:09 PM (De5Op)

341 The Soviets conducted such polls in Berlin after WWII when they were trying to take over the city by means of starving the citizens. Questions read something like: Which would you prefer? A. Starvation and democracy B. Plenty of food and security under the Soviets

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 02:10 PM (aDwsi)

342 Let it burn or,
INCINERATE ALL THE THINGS!!!

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 24, 2014 02:11 PM (DL2i+)

343 Telegraph News ‏@TelegraphNews Investigators believe Malaysia Airlines flight #MH370 crashed in suicide mission, sources say And just like when the Beltway Sniper was found to have a politically incorrect profile, so too will this fascinating and riveting story disappear immediately. Memory hole, wheeeeeeee.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 24, 2014 02:12 PM (T0NGe)

344 I think he's getting worse. --------- I agree.

Posted by: Adam at March 24, 2014 02:13 PM (Aif/5)

345 That sucks. Try not to beat yourselves up over it. There was no possible way for US manufacturing to compete against a country with a population four times as large as us and totally lacking in the environmental, labor, hourly, and other regulations that took our costs through the roof. It was never an apples to apples competition, and if BJ didn't know that he's dumber then the taint between ML's nether regions. Well, our illustrious representatives were more than happy to eliminate an entire sector of our economy for no good reason. As noted above, there were many reasons for it, all of them from Dims. BJ Cliton called it the "New Economy." Hey asshole, how about "in addition to," instead of "in place of." I really wish we had pols who gave a damn whether we had jobs or not. And a robust economy or not.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 02:14 PM (0HooB)

346 So let's remind ourselves that this malarkey about free trade with China being a good thing _well_ predates Bill Clinton.

After the Tiananmen Square massacre, the first response from President George H.W. Bush was that we should not "overreact", and that it was hugely important to continue expanding trade ties with China, because as their economy grew, they would of course become more open and peaceful in their outlook.

Another fucking Bush-family foreign policy triumph there.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 24, 2014 02:14 PM (noWW6)

347 345 332...Anyone else have this flu thing? Not yet. Sorry it's having it's way with you, tango9. Been trying to avoid crowds lately...but I know it's only a matter of time before I get it too. Are you taking Mucinex? It works good on the phlegm attacks. Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 06:08 PM (De5Op) I got really sick about five weeks ago...worst I have ever felt from the cold/flu thing since I was a kid. It only lasted two or three days, but left me with a cough that I just can't seem to shake. It is slowly getting better, but I have been coughing so hard at times that I think I'm straining some muscles.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 24, 2014 02:16 PM (afNM6)

348 PEW - Doing what they do best.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 02:16 PM (aDwsi)

349 You are exploring a remote island when captured by by native tribal warriors. The chief offers you one of the following choices. Which would you choose?
A. Death
B. Bunga bunga"
You chose death, and death it shall be.
By Bunga-Bunga!

Per the Greaseman,
2 guys captured by headhunters,
Cheif says Death or Bunga-Bunga,
1st guys chooses Bunga-Bunga
Loud sodomizing ensues,
2nd guy says Death,
Chief says Death by Bunga-Bunga

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 24, 2014 02:16 PM (DL2i+)

350 Posted by: DaveA at March 24, 2014 06:16 PM (DL2i+) So after being sodomized, the first guy lives?

Posted by: model_1066 at March 24, 2014 02:18 PM (afNM6)

351 T9, you need someone to bring you some soup or Gatorade. Too much fever and too few fluids = bad. Ask the parrot to call someone next time you are conscious.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 24, 2014 02:19 PM (HTAoH)

352 I have been coughing so hard at times that I think I'm straining some muscles. Posted by: model_1066 ------------------ Robitussin DM - Mucous thinner + cough suppressant. Only cough when the goo is thinned and ready.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 24, 2014 02:19 PM (aDwsi)

353 Nood

Posted by: rickb223 at March 24, 2014 02:20 PM (h1D+w)

354

353...It is slowly getting better, but I have been coughing so hard at times that I think I'm straining some muscles.

 

Posted by: model_1066

 

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That sucks.

Hope you cycle out of it soon.

 

And I know what you mean, about the muscle strain.

I was coughing so hard one time that I got a charley horse in an abdominal muscle.

Posted by: wheatie at March 24, 2014 02:23 PM (De5Op)

355 Another fucking Bush-family foreign policy triumph there. I'd hafta do some research, but I've heard that NAFTA originated whilst Ronaldus Magnus was President, and underwent some severe alterations before it was enacted.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 24, 2014 02:23 PM (0HooB)

356 357 T9, you need someone to bring you some soup or Gatorade. Too much fever and too few fluids = bad. Ask the parrot to call someone next time you are conscious. Posted by: Daybrother at March 24, 2014 06:19 PM (HTAoH) he just stares at me and eats peanuts. I told him his contract is up. He just scratched and strared. F'n parrot. No help at all.

Posted by: tangonine at March 24, 2014 02:26 PM (x3YFz)

357 359 I have been coughing so hard at times that I think I'm straining some muscles. Posted by: model_1066 ^5 I think I created a new life form from phlegm. My abs are loving the workout. Holy crap my whole torso feels like I'm an MMA heavy bag.

Posted by: tangonine at March 24, 2014 02:29 PM (x3YFz)

358 So after being sodomized, the first guy lives?[i/]

IIRC yes, all his old stuff is online but the indexing isn't thorough enough.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 24, 2014 02:37 PM (DL2i+)

359 What did the other 51% choose?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at March 24, 2014 02:53 PM (i+yr+)

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