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March 15, 2014

Saturday Car Thread 03/15/14 - [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse & Countrysquire]
— Open Blogger

Welcome to the I'm exhausted so you get the shaft edition of the Saturday Car Thread.

Countrysquire loves Whealers Dealers, the English show which has aired on DiscoveryÂ’s Velocity channel for a while now. The show started as Mike Brewer buying modern classics in need of a little attention, then 6Â’7 mechanic Edd China doing the repair work in order to get them ready to sell. Finally, Mike would try to sell the car for a profit, finalizing the deal with Â“Â’old out your Â‘and, youÂ’ve bought a crackinÂ’ motor!Â” They have done a lot of different types of cars over the years, but the premise has remained the same. In a sea of auto related shows which either have phony deadlines and drama, or spend half the time advertising some crap, this one stands out. Before you wade in, be aware that the English have some different terms for auto parts. Our door panels are there door cards. We have aluminum, they have aluminium. The chaps over at lotus-europa.com have prepared a chart to convert from English toÂ…errÂ…English.

Now armed with the English-to-English translator above, have a look-see:

The Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance was held, last weekend, in beautiful Amelia Island, FL. This event, which benefits Community Hospice of NE Florida, draws car lovers from around the world and the media coverage expands with each passing year.

Two best in show ribbons were awarded: The first, the Concurs d'Elegance Award went to a 1937 Horch 853 and the second, the Concours de Sport, went to a 1958 Scarab.

The weekendÂ’s biggest sale belonged to R.M., which sold a 1937 Delahaye 135 Competition Torpedo Roadster for $6.6 million. That figure set two records: highest price paid for a Delahaye at any auction and highest price paid for a car at the Amelia auctions.

It didn't occur to me this year but, perhaps, next year, we can make a Moron meetup out of it. It would be great fun.

Update re the UAW attempts at unionizing VW Chattanooga: The workers aren't sitting still this time as management and the union collude.

Three workers at a Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga, Tenn., filed a complaint with the National Labor Relations Board Wednesday saying it must prevent the German auto company from providing any further assistance to the United Auto Workers in its efforts to organize the workers. The complaint is a reaction to the UAW's own request to the board that it order a revote of an organizing election at the Chattanooga facility that the union lost last month.
The VW workers allege that a prior "neutrality" agreement between the company and UAW regarding the election violated the National Labor Relations Act because the union gave "things of value" in exchange for the company making it easier to organize its Chattanooga workers. Essentially, the complaint argues that the union bribed the company by offering it favorable terms for an eventual contract Â— a situation that would benefit the union leaders and the company, but not the workers.

God Bless the workin' man.

This week's cruising tune will make you pine for those sultry Summer nights of long ago:

A little bit of scruff for the Moronettes:

And a reminder to the Morons of what real-life car elbows look like:

Ah... what the heck. Here's a bonus shot as well:

Please feel free to send any complaints or commendations to us at Twitter: Nied's Dead Horse and Countrysquire

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1 Hello, car buffs

Posted by: shredded chi at March 15, 2014 10:43 AM (CYqDc)

2 Shoot! I even went and got the others, read some of the post, and still first. must be a beautiful day everywhere

Posted by: shredded chi at March 15, 2014 10:44 AM (CYqDc)

3 Take a lorry to the lift to the loo.

Posted by: eleven at March 15, 2014 10:46 AM (fsLdt)

4 Well, I'd love to sit here and chat with you, Chi, but that beer isn't gonna drink itself!

Posted by: shredded chi at March 15, 2014 10:47 AM (CYqDc)

5 That Horch and the Delahaye are examples of late-'30s Euro art-deco design that I just can't quite get into. Might look good on furniture, but I'm not a fan on cars.

Posted by: JEM at March 15, 2014 10:47 AM (o+SC1)

6 Hello? Hellooooooo Hellooooooooo

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 10:48 AM (DmNpO)

7 That Horch and the Delahaye are examples of late-'30s Euro art-deco design that I just can't quite get into. Might look good on furniture, but I'm not a fan on cars. *** Jessica Rabbit would look great in that Delahaye

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 10:48 AM (DmNpO)

8 6 Hello? Hellooooooo Hellooooooooo Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 02:48 PM (DmNpO) Um, hi.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2014 10:49 AM (UAMVq)

9 Getting a little more esoteric, of course, but what we call a 'rod end' or a 'heim joint' is a 'rose joint' in UK parlance.

Posted by: JEM at March 15, 2014 10:49 AM (o+SC1)

10 Jessica Rabbit would look great in that Delahaye Jessica Rabbit would look great in just about anything.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2014 10:49 AM (UAMVq)

11 Before you wade in, be aware that the English have some different terms for auto parts. Our door panels are there door cards. We have aluminum, they have aluminium. The chaps over at lotus-europa.com have prepared a chart to convert from English toÂ…errÂ…English. I read the chart and now I have an incredible urge to read a Dorothy L. Sayers "Lord Peter Whimsey" mystery.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 15, 2014 10:50 AM (oMKp3)

12 I love Wheeler Dealers. Mike has a tendency to be a bit of a jerk in the purchase/selling sections. Edd can pretty much do anything and I have a bit of a crush on him and his wackadoo hair. I do love when he has to squeeze into a tiny car too. I think it may have been the Triumph Spitfire episode where he had to wear aviator goggles while taking it for a spin at the end because his head stuck up over the windshield.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 15, 2014 10:50 AM (GrtrJ)

13 The only thing about Wheeler Dealers is that when they disclose their profit at the end of the show, they never figure in the value of Ed's labor. It's like Mike has his own auto-mechanic-gimp-in-a-box that he utilizes for free any time he wishes. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at March 15, 2014 10:52 AM (RRbuy)

14 Also, I have a major fondness for the art deco era of cars. The Stout Scarab is probably one of my favorites from that time period.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 15, 2014 10:52 AM (GrtrJ)

15 In my teenage years I loved to explore Fort Clinch down there.

Posted by: backhoe at March 15, 2014 10:53 AM (ULH4o)

16 15 In my teenage years I loved to explore Fort Clinch down there. Posted by: backhoe at March 15, 2014 02:53 PM (ULH4o) Is that some sort of euphemism?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2014 10:55 AM (UAMVq)

17 In my teenage years I loved to explore Fort Clinch down there. *** I live about 15 miles from the beach (10 at my last house) but for years I have driven the 40 miles to Ft Clinch and happily paid the entrance fee because it is hands down the best beach in NEFL, perhaps the entire east coast of Florida.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 10:56 AM (DmNpO)

18 "I'm not bad....I'm just drawn that way."

Posted by: Jessica Rabbit at March 15, 2014 10:56 AM (QFxY5)

19 As with most such auctions, perusing the Amelia Island results is always scary. "I could have afforded that car thirty years ago..."

Posted by: JEM at March 15, 2014 10:58 AM (o+SC1)

20 16?

Insomniac ?

Actually, not. Clinch is an intact brick fortess- similar to Pulaski, which got shot to pieces on several sides by rifled shot.

Clinch is a fascinating place- national park, now.

Posted by: backhoe at March 15, 2014 10:59 AM (ULH4o)

21 D'you think the lug-nut caps on that semi are telling her something? Love to hang around, but Home Depot awaits, gotta get the dryer hooked back up...

Posted by: JEM at March 15, 2014 10:59 AM (o+SC1)

22 20 16? Insomniac ?Actually, not. Clinch is an intact brick fortess- similar to Pulaski, which got shot to pieces on several sides by rifled shot.Clinch is a fascinating place- national park, now. Posted by: backhoe at March 15, 2014 02:59 PM (ULH4o) It was funnier as a euphemism. Being a Florida boy, perhaps I'll make my way out there one of these days.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2014 11:00 AM (UAMVq)

23 Another sad, sad story of a boy and his premature detonation troubles - http://tinyurl.com/l9lfcrj

Posted by: Typo dynamofo at March 15, 2014 11:01 AM (IVgIK)

24 23 Another sad, sad story of a boy and his premature detonation troubles - http://tinyurl.com/l9lfcrj Posted by: Typo dynamofo at March 15, 2014 03:01 PM (IVgIK) I love stories that have happy endings.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2014 11:02 AM (UAMVq)

25 The only British term that was new for me was the "shooting brake" which they translate to "station wagon". That's a new one and seems unlikely.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 15, 2014 11:02 AM (O8GY0)

26 Insomniac- Yeah that's one I can't share enough.

Posted by: Typo dynamofo at March 15, 2014 11:04 AM (IVgIK)

27 Two vehicles I have only recently come to admire are the 1959 El Camino and Cab Over Body trucks. Look up COB trucks. So many. So cool.

Posted by: Typo dynamofo at March 15, 2014 11:07 AM (IVgIK)

The only British term that was new for me was the "shooting brake" which they translate to "station wagon". That's a new one and seems unlikely.

They goofed. Estate wagon is a station wagon. Neither of which make any sense at all.

Posted by: eleven at March 15, 2014 11:08 AM (fsLdt)

29 Sorry. It's Cab Over Engine.

Posted by: Typo dynamofo at March 15, 2014 11:09 AM (IVgIK)

30 The only British term that was new for me was the "shooting brake" which they translate to "station wagon". That's a new one and seems unlikely.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 15, 2014 03:02 PM (O8GY0)

The modern usages of 'shooting-brake' is reserved for two-door sports coupe hatchback variants - see Ferrari FF

Posted by: Emilia Earhart at March 15, 2014 11:12 AM (Q6pxP)

31 From wiki Station wagon and wagon are the common names in American, Canadian and Australian English, while estate car and estate are common in the rest of the English-speaking world. Both names harken to the car's role as a shuttle, with storage space for baggage, between country estates and train stations. Having shared antecedents with the British shooting-brake (originally a wooden-bodied vehicle used to carry shooting parties with their equipment and game), station wagons have been marketed as breaks, using the French term (which is sometimes given fully as break de chasse, literally "hunting break."

Posted by: grammie winger at March 15, 2014 11:13 AM (oMKp3)

32
The only British term that was new for me was the "shooting brake" which they translate to "station wagon". That's a new one and seems unlikely.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 15, 2014 03:02 PM (O8GY0)

iirc

The term "shooting brake" referred to a vehicle that was outfitted for hunting but also had a sloping rear roof line.

Posted by: YIKES! at March 15, 2014 11:16 AM (mETGQ)

33 DUDES and dudettes. Let me assure you that a BATTERY is also BATTERY in jolly olde England. The only "accumulator" I've ever heard of over here is a horses bet, when the winnings of the previous race are put on the next race.

Posted by: English Dave at March 15, 2014 11:17 AM (AEXqZ)

34 Real life fake ones.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at March 15, 2014 11:17 AM (cXIWB)

35 Also hub cap is the same. Never heard of a "nave" -- heard of a knave. Seriously, was this list compiled in 1914 for Lord Snooty prior to his trip to the colonies? Pinking - another really old term. Knock is perfectly understood.

Posted by: English Dave at March 15, 2014 11:22 AM (AEXqZ)

36 You think you hate your shooting brake now, wait until you drive it.

Posted by: Eugene Levy at March 15, 2014 11:23 AM (QSqIb)

37 I'm not on twitter, so can't send this to Niedermeyer or Countrysquire, but maybe one of you kind folks can do it. They just found a Shelby Mustang GT500 in a garage in Kansas with only 8,500 miles on it.

http://tinyurl.com/q29e6gj

Posted by: Peaches at March 15, 2014 11:26 AM (8lmkt)

38 Oops, no, it was Pennsylvania

Posted by: Peaches at March 15, 2014 11:27 AM (8lmkt)

39 Thanks Peaches. After you mentioned it last night I searched but couldn't find it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 11:32 AM (DmNpO)

40 Beamer == video projector

Posted by: Donald Segretti at March 15, 2014 11:32 AM (e8kgV)

41 One Summer Night * aches for his squandered youth *

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 11:33 AM (aDwsi)

42 I had trouble finding it, too, Niedermeyer. Originally saw it on Yahoo, one of their little picture at the top stories. Still can't find that one. Funny that the guy never washed the car, for fear of damaging the paint.

Posted by: Peaches at March 15, 2014 11:34 AM (8lmkt)

43 I too enjoy Wheeler Dealers because they actually - get this - rebuild/save cars! Just like many of us rebuilders - the ultimate automotive recyclers. What they recoup from the sale is secondary in my mind because they get something interesting back on the road. They do it and make it look like they enjoy their work. No yelling or screaming or endless ads for products.

Posted by: oldgeezer at March 15, 2014 11:36 AM (+uiwA)

44 Perfectly familiar with the Brit terminology..., with a few exceptions: Accumulator - Don't know how that one escaped me Nave Plate - That one either Scuttle

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 11:36 AM (aDwsi)

45 Oh, here's the story on that 1969 Shelby, complete with a picture gallery:

http://tinyurl.com/ogo3hkk

Posted by: Peaches at March 15, 2014 11:39 AM (8lmkt)

46 That BelAir went for 16,000 pounds or around $24,000. A little underpriced I think. And yeah, labor is not free. So 2,500 pounds net on the expenditures probably doesn't cover the labor.

Posted by: Sphynx at March 15, 2014 11:39 AM (cll/q)

47 Standing in front of a hotel where construction was going on across the street, there were a number of heavy trucks hauling stuff. I was speaking to one of the guys working on the building, and he said something about 'trucks'. I was surprised, and told him that I thought they were called 'lorries'. He laughed and said 'truck' was common usage.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 11:39 AM (aDwsi)

48 I had completely forgotten that the car show was this weekend. I might be better off down here in MouseLand.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 15, 2014 11:42 AM (qanmw)

49 >>16 15 In my teenage years I loved to explore Fort Clinch down there.
Posted by: backhoe at March 15, 2014 02:53 PM (ULH4o)<<

In my teenage years I could only dream about getting to Fort Clinch down there. Girls weren't as wild in those days.

Posted by: Sphynx at March 15, 2014 11:42 AM (cll/q)

50 47 - I had a similar experience with 'paraffin', which I used in conversation with a British motor racing journalist. He chuckled, and said that 'diesel' was the contemporary reference.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 11:42 AM (aDwsi)

51
Wheeler Dealers rocks. Mainly because both of those limeys look like they're having a HELL of a lot of fun.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 15, 2014 11:43 AM (AHzA7)

52 'Shooting Brake' has also passed from usage.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 11:43 AM (aDwsi)

53 I donno... the bit of scruff for Moronettes looks sort of, um... well, I appreciate the thought. After some reflection, I think it's that he'd look slightly more het if he pulled up his pants. (Which I sure wish the young men who ride the bus would figure out. PULL UP YOUR PANTS!)

Posted by: Synova at March 15, 2014 11:43 AM (7/PU+)

54 Yeah, shooting brakes are not station wagons, at least not in the modern sense. They're two-door coupes with an extended station wagon-like rear (some four-door sedans extended into a station wagon are called the same, but I personally avoid the comparison, as I just call those station wagons).

FTR: proper shooting brakes are suhweeet (check out this latest Volvo concept, which I hope to goodness they manufacture as-is: http://tinyurl.com/ob9gat9)

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at March 15, 2014 11:44 AM (Ed+yP)

55 Those last two pictures shifted me into "top gear"Â…

Posted by: The Turbo Hat at March 15, 2014 11:46 AM (AymDN)

56
Jessica Rabbit would look great in that Delahaye

Jessica Rabbit would look great in just about anything.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2014 02:49 PM (UAMVq)

On the other hand, I would look great in Jessica Rabbit.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 15, 2014 11:46 AM (AHzA7)

57 That bird with the lorry has some very fine lady parts Off you go now!

Posted by: kbdabear at March 15, 2014 11:47 AM (aTXUx)

58 http://tinyurl.com/qge8btk

Union puts up "Shame on you, Suaru of Wichita" protest banner at dealership.

Dealership adds, "For having such low prices" banner.

Good move, capitalism!

Posted by: Dang at March 15, 2014 11:47 AM (MNq6o)

59 I got the verbiage a little off on that banner, but you get the idea...

Posted by: Dang at March 15, 2014 11:48 AM (MNq6o)

60 Those pikeys forgot "spanner" for adjustable wrench

Posted by: kbdabear at March 15, 2014 11:48 AM (aTXUx)

61 Jaguar E-Type - Dubbed Â“The Greatest Crumpet Catcher Known to ManÂ” by Henry Manney,

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 11:48 AM (aDwsi)

62 Those pikeys forgot "spanner" for adjustable wrench Posted by: kbdabear ---------------- Spanner = fixed open-end wrench, I think.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 11:49 AM (aDwsi)

63 62 ..and it is in the list

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 11:50 AM (aDwsi)

64 Good move, capitalism!

Posted by: Dang at March 15, 2014 03:47 PM (MNq6o)

The dealership even gave the paid protesters lunch. Someone at that dealership not only has a sense of humor but knows how to fight back.

Posted by: Retread at March 15, 2014 11:50 AM (cHwk5)

65 Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 03:39 PM (aDwsi) Yes, lorry/truck is totally interchangeable in 2014. Term truckers is 100% used as there are no "lorryers"!

Posted by: English Dave at March 15, 2014 11:50 AM (AEXqZ)

66 I donno... the bit of scruff for Moronettes looks sort of, um... well, I appreciate the thought. After some reflection, I think it's that he'd look slightly more het if he pulled up his pants. (Which I sure wish the young men who ride the bus would figure out. PULL UP YOUR PANTS!) *** It is nowhere as easy to find cute/hot men with cars as it is to find cute/hot women with cars. Most of the pictures of men have a certain, uh, flamboyance.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 11:51 AM (DmNpO)

67 Dude's too skinny. Gal is not too skinny. ;-)

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2014 11:53 AM (zDsvJ)

68 Speaking of brake, they forgot that the Brits use the term parking brake where we call it the emergency brake They also use the term Brake Horsepower In the UK, a freeway is a motorway, a highway is a carriageway. A dual carriageway is a divided highway

Posted by: kbdabear at March 15, 2014 11:53 AM (aTXUx)

69 Most of the pictures of men have a certain, uh, flamboyance. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 03:51 PM (DmNpO) Huh? I don't think I follow...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 15, 2014 11:54 AM (qanmw)

70 I don't know how they get mole wrench and nave plate unless they're just trying to avoid saying pick up the roadkill and eat it off a hubcap.

And aren't thrust bearings and throw-out bearings completely different things?

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 15, 2014 11:55 AM (DL2i+)

71 Also, headlights here are headlamps in the UK

Posted by: kbdabear at March 15, 2014 11:55 AM (aTXUx)

72 It is nowhere as easy to find cute/hot men with cars as it is to find cute/hot women with cars. --- Have you used Steve McQueen pictures before? http://www.diecastsociety.com/autoart-steve-mcqueens-diecast-model-car-collection/

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2014 11:56 AM (zDsvJ)

73 Huh? I don't think I follow... *** They aren't intended to appeal to either you or me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 11:56 AM (DmNpO)

74 A throw-out bearing is a type of thrust bearing.

Posted by: Ronster at March 15, 2014 11:56 AM (puNd6)

75 The dealership even gave the paid protesters lunch. Someone at that dealership not only has a sense of humor but knows how to fight back. Posted by: Retread -------------------- When 'Abortion Rights' protestors formed up outside of the Capitol building in NC, Gov. McCrory took out a platter of fresh-baked chocolate cookies. The look on the woman's face as she was standing there holding the platter was priceless. Pic: http://www.theblaze.com/?attachment_id=633106

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 11:56 AM (aDwsi)

76 Shirtless http://igetakickoutofyou.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/steve1.jpg

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2014 11:57 AM (zDsvJ)

77 see Ferrari FF

Only if you're willing to have me drool on it.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 15, 2014 11:58 AM (DL2i+)

78 12 hrs of Sebring has been going on today, watch on imsa.com

Posted by: nabqrules at March 15, 2014 11:58 AM (Irq86)

79 When 'Abortion Rights' protestors formed up outside of the Capitol building in NC, Gov. McCrory took out a platter of fresh-baked chocolate cookies. The look on the woman's face as she was standing there holding the platter was priceless. Pic: http://www.theblaze.com/?attachment_id=633106 *** heh

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 11:58 AM (DmNpO)

80 O/T for the Sidebar Apparently at Salon Magazine, "We Don't Want the Irish" Salon writer asks: Â‘How did Irish Americans get so disgusting?Â’ http://tinyurl.com/neffhkk

Posted by: kbdabear at March 15, 2014 11:58 AM (aTXUx)

81 Shirtless http://igetakickoutofyou.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/steve1.jpg ** I've posted Steve before and try to keep it mixed up but I've never seen that one before. I'll add it to the file. Thanks

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 11:59 AM (DmNpO)

82 They aren't intended to appeal to either you or me. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 03:56 PM (DmNpO) HmmmÂ…..still not sure I'm getting it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 15, 2014 11:59 AM (qanmw)

83 Throwout bearing is a thrust bearing used to engage/disengage clutch assembly.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 12:00 PM (aDwsi)

84 HmmmÂ…..still not sure I'm getting it. *** Here http://bit.ly/1m7KPBo

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 12:03 PM (DmNpO)

85 The only British term that was new for me was the "shooting brake" which they translate to "station wagon". That's a new one and seems unlikely.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 15, 2014 03:02 PM (O8GY0)

No, that's been around for many, many years. In Britain, it was the kind of vehicle that wealthy sportsmen would use for trips to the countryside to shoot game birds, or whatever. Indeed, here in North America, the term "station wagon" had a similar connotation, being a vehicle used by your chauffeur to pick you and your luggage up at the train station, and hustle you in comfort to your country place. They were a rich man's toy until the post-War car boom.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 15, 2014 12:04 PM (fP0Xf)

86 Time to go work on an ancient McCulloch. That would be a chainsaw..., and not a octogenarian Scot. Just to be clear.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 12:05 PM (aDwsi)

87 I like the gem hunter show and the UK restoration home shows. But I also get sick of the phony drama. It distracts from the shows.

Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 15, 2014 12:06 PM (r7mtu)

88 They were a rich man's toy until the post-War car boom.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 15, 2014 04:04 PM (fP0Xf)

Instead of luggage, we stuffed kids in 'em.

Posted by: Retread at March 15, 2014 12:07 PM (cHwk5)

89 Seriously, was this list compiled in 1914 for Lord Snooty prior to his trip to the colonies?

Pinking - another really old term. Knock is perfectly understood.

Posted by: English Dave at March 15, 2014 03:22 PM (AEXqZ)

Agreed this list includes many obsolete terms, but as a guy who has read many English motor magazines and service manuals over the years, it's nonetheless a useful list, especially if one has to decipher some old literature.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 15, 2014 12:08 PM (fP0Xf)

90 A thrust bearing is the bearing that crank rides against and restricts the crank from moving back and forth. It's not a throw out bearing.
A ring gear is a ring gear, nobody calls them a flywheel gear.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2014 12:09 PM (IV4od)

91 Down south we call an adjustable wrench a Crescent wrench.

Many times when I drove to Honey Creek to fetch the lost Miss Emily I'd see her crossing the field in front of her lobby. With a handful of those & adjustable pliers. From fixing toilets.

Yeah, she was a farm girl at heart. A good one....

Posted by: backhoe at March 15, 2014 12:09 PM (ULH4o)

92 Here http://bit.ly/1m7KPBo Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 04:03 PM (DmNpO) I knew better. I knew better and I still clicked it. Here I was trying to mess with you and that happened. Damn you NDH. Now I have to go gouge my eyes out with a spoon.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 15, 2014 12:11 PM (qanmw)

93 Here http://bit.ly/1m7KPBo Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 04:03 PM (DmNpO) I knew better. I knew better and I still clicked it. Here I was trying to mess with you and that happened. Damn you NDH. Now I have to go gouge my eyes out with a spoon.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 15, 2014 12:11 PM (qanmw)

94 A vintage Shooting Brake looks something like this: http://tinyurl.com/qgdtvpg Contemporary usage of the term(s) is to add some panache, and is a fail, as far as I am concerned. Here is an interesting conversion, however: http://tinyurl.com/ohrbmh6

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 12:11 PM (aDwsi)

95 A vintage Shooting Brake looks something like this: http://tinyurl.com/qgdtvpg Contemporary usage of the term(s) is to add some panache, and is a fail, as far as I am concerned. Here is an interesting conversion, however: http://tinyurl.com/ohrbmh6

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 12:11 PM (aDwsi)

96 A thrust bearing is the bearing that crank rides against and restricts the crank from moving back and forth. ---------------- Or..., the bearing which supports the platter in your phonograph player...., the one with One Summer Night playing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 12:14 PM (aDwsi)

97 Wait, I thought that "Roundabout" a song by Yes and not a traffic thingy?

Posted by: Psychedelicat at March 15, 2014 12:14 PM (AymDN)

98 Ted Cruz ✔ @tedcruz Follow

Saw this, but noticed an error. So I wanted to make one thing clear: I don't smoke cigarettes http://bit.ly/1nqK08i

9:58 AM - 15 Mar 2014

Posted by: Donald Segretti at March 15, 2014 12:15 PM (e8kgV)

99 A vintage Shooting Brake looks something like this:
http://tinyurl.com/qgdtvpg

Contemporary usage of the term(s) is to add some panache, and is a fail, as far as I am concerned. Here is an interesting conversion, however:
http://tinyurl.com/ohrbmh6

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 04:11 PM (aDwsi)

Ah, a woody (wagon) then. Why didn't you say so? Of course the term "woody" has fallen out of common usage as well, since we don't make them any more, but you can still hear about them in the old Beach Boys songs.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 15, 2014 12:16 PM (yh0zB)

100 A vintage Shooting Brake looks something like this:
http://tinyurl.com/qgdtvpg

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Back when a woody had real wood on it.

Posted by: Retread at March 15, 2014 12:16 PM (cHwk5)

101 And in the department of odd things? My family owned Mark 7, 8, and 9 Jags. They came with fitted luggage. When I had a whole treetop fall in my yard a year ago? Turns out Bill Bulfer- the tree guy- ended up with the fitted luggage.

It's a strange, small world, after all....

Posted by: backhoe at March 15, 2014 12:16 PM (ULH4o)

102 Of course the term "woody" has fallen out of common usage as well, ----------------- Except for the ONT.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 12:17 PM (aDwsi)

103 How much would you guys discount a 2006 dodge 2500 that's been used for plowing ?

Posted by: rik at March 15, 2014 12:17 PM (rVEZt)

104 Additional info, the dodge has 57000 ??

Posted by: rik at March 15, 2014 12:18 PM (rVEZt)

105 O/T: Wolfpack trails Duke by 1 @ half

Posted by: NCwoof at March 15, 2014 12:18 PM (aUQgu)

106 Highway miles, or plowing miles?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 15, 2014 12:18 PM (fP0Xf)

107 Contemporary usage of the term(s) is to add some panache, and is a
fail, as far as I am concerned. Here is an interesting conversion,
however:

http://tinyurl.com/ohrbmh6

That car has been listed in Mustang Times forever with a 100K price tag on it. No takers. I will refrain from shouting "KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!"

...or not...

I guess "shooting break" could also be a Nomad then?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 15, 2014 12:18 PM (yh0zB)

108 Except for the ONT.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 04:17 PM (aDwsi)

Are we still referring to cars?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 15, 2014 12:20 PM (yh0zB)

109 Plowing is hard on drive trains and front ends.

Posted by: Ronster at March 15, 2014 12:20 PM (puNd6)

110 Plowing is hard on the woody.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2014 12:20 PM (UAMVq)

111 Plowing is for mules.

Posted by: NCwoof at March 15, 2014 12:22 PM (aUQgu)

112 Shooting brake?

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4055/4533869146_061673d204_z.jpg

I know where one of these is. You can still get wood kits for them. I drove a Minor sedan in my mis-spent youth. Fun little car.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 15, 2014 12:22 PM (fP0Xf)

113 104 Highway miles, or plowing miles? The owner bought the truck in 2009 with 32000 on it. Judging by the service records, I would say 8-10000 mile of winter use. He has recently replaced alot of the front end components, ball joints etc

Posted by: rik at March 15, 2014 12:23 PM (rVEZt)

114 I knew better. I knew better and I still clicked it. Here I was trying to mess with you and that happened. Damn you NDH. Now I have to go gouge my eyes out with a spoon. *** Thank me. That's far from the worst.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 12:24 PM (DmNpO)

115 I knew better. I knew better and I still clicked it. Here I was trying to mess with you and that happened. Damn you NDH. Now I have to go gouge my eyes out with a spoon. *** Gheys in the military?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 12:24 PM (DmNpO)

116 GGE - Shooting 'brake' 'Cause, accuracy. I think 'Woody' is fair comparison, and perhaps 'station wagon'. In both cases the vehicle was intended for utilitarian use, rather than daily transportation. Re the custom Mustang, so I guess this is out too, huh? http://www.stangbangers.com/Mustang4x4_Pic06.jpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 12:24 PM (aDwsi)

117 Of course the term "woody" has fallen out of common usage as well, since we don't make them any more

speak for yourself

Posted by: kate upton at March 15, 2014 12:27 PM (30eLQ)

118 Thank me. That's far from the worst.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 04:24 PM (DmNpO)

Thank you. That one was bad enough!

Posted by: Retread at March 15, 2014 12:27 PM (cHwk5)

119 I just clicked on the photo again and I don't know why but I find it enormously funny.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 15, 2014 12:29 PM (DmNpO)

120 Re the custom Mustang, so I guess this is out too, huh?
http://www.stangbangers.com/Mustang4x4_Pic06.jpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 04:24 PM (aDwsi)

Heh. Well, to me that was never a Mustang in the first place, so no harm, no foul.

I'm going to go outside and play with cars in the sunshine. Back later, maybe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 15, 2014 12:30 PM (fP0Xf)

121 I think the most interesting brace of little Brit cars I've ever seen are the Triumph TR-10 series. There is a wagon - excuse me, estate car, a sedan - er, saloon - a pickup and a van. One guy nearby has all four.

http://tinyurl.com/pnoxuac

http://tinyurl.com/non3g8r

I had pics of all four, but the catastrophic failure of my external hard drive prevents me from uploading them

FWIW, Lizard Lick Towing TV show, episode 221, you might see a Moron with red Mustang...just sayin'.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 15, 2014 12:31 PM (yh0zB)

122 What are those spiked lugnuts for? I've seen them on trucks on the highway and have always wondered. Looks like something Speed Racer's opponents uses.

Posted by: Titanium at March 15, 2014 12:32 PM (IgOQg)

123 Re the custom Mustang, so I guess this is out too, huh?
http://www.stangbangers.com/Mustang4x4_Pic06.jpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 04:24 PM (aDwsi)

*strikes match*

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 15, 2014 12:33 PM (yh0zB)

124 12 hrs of Sebring has been going on today, watch on imsa.com Can't believe I didn't know this was going on today. Hey, an ALMS car is in the lead!

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 15, 2014 12:39 PM (QSqIb)

125 Well, the alarm has now gone off so it's time for me to get up and get ready for work. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at March 15, 2014 12:40 PM (yh0zB)

126 English= "MG" American= " Cheap Crapola" English= "TR7" American= "Crapola" English= "Jaguar" American= "Expensive Crapola"

Posted by: IrishEd at March 15, 2014 12:44 PM (bfm04)

127 When Putin invades Britain, he's going to ban cars! And force all men to walk around shirtless! Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 15, 2014 12:44 PM (jhfwW)

128 124?

Posted by: IrishEd ?

I've always heard Jags described as "champagne tastes on a beer-level price tag." But they sure were pretty. Violet dash lites. Fold-down seats in the back. Sunroofs- that I rode in to school.

Yes, the other kids hated me. Got used to that long ago....

Posted by: backhoe at March 15, 2014 12:54 PM (ULH4o)

129 seats? = tables. WTF? Mind slipping?

Posted by: backhoe at March 15, 2014 12:57 PM (ULH4o)

130 I've seen various French literature over the years that referred to wagons as 'breaks'. e.g. http://www.autoevolution.com/peugeot/406-break/

Posted by: JEM at March 15, 2014 01:03 PM (o+SC1)

131 Throwout bearing is a thrust bearing used to engage/disengage clutch assembly. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 15, 2014 04:00 PM

Also called a "release bearing" Over There.

And don't forget "off side" and "near side" for "left" and "right." The knockoff hubs on my Austin Healey's wire wheels were so marked.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 15, 2014 01:06 PM (jiM5S)

132 @129 - 'near side' and 'off side' are relative to the driver's position...driver's side and passenger's side...it sounds to me like Healey didn't bother to re-mark the knockoffs when they moved the driver seat over to the left.

Posted by: JEM at March 15, 2014 01:11 PM (o+SC1)

133 Dear Cobs: Quit making excuses at the top of your posts. Yes, we all run into computer or network glitches, or life, family and work keep us from performing the legwork necessary for a World-Class post. But when you lead off with 'Whoa, is this gonna suck because [insert excuse here]', then you're kinda pissing in the pool and then saying good luck if you're thinking about diving in. My problem with that is that most of the posts are fine. Don't trip over yourself apologizing for them. If they really suck, then Ace will yank you from the rotation. I have to present a lot in my line of work. If I led off each presentation with 'My youngest kid was up all night with a cough, so I only got two hours of sleep, so is this pitch gonna suck for you!', I'd be in another line of work. Regardless of how much prep or lack thereof for whatever reason, I've learned just to go up there and act like everything is great and leave the excuses to others. Sometimes it's worked out fine, other times not so much, but they'd all go bad if I started out by making excuses and flat-lining expectations. Sorry for the rant. It's a pet peeve of mine. We all have issues in this thing called life, and most of the Ace Cob posts aren't the dreck they are set up to be by their authors. Own it, bitches! Be proud of your undercooked posts! Often times they're better than what 98% of the readership could come up with.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at March 15, 2014 01:13 PM (tTMRX)

134 it sounds to me like Healey didn't bother to re-mark the knockoffs when they moved the driver seat over to the left.
Posted by: JEM at March 15, 2014 05:11 PM

No, they didn't, and neither did any of the other Brit carmakers. It was a function of thread direction on the hubs.

An ex-girlfriend owned a 1925 Bentley which of course had wire wheels and, IIRC, the hubs were also marked "near side" and "off side."

Wish she still had the car. Wish I still had her....

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 15, 2014 01:14 PM (jiM5S)

135 And don't forget "off side" and "near side" for "left" and "right." The knockoff hubs on my Austin Healey's wire wheels were so marked.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 15, 2014 05:06 PM (jiM5S)

Translate this: off side fore.

Posted by: Retread at March 15, 2014 01:15 PM (cHwk5)

136 Translate this: off side fore.
Posted by: Retread at March 15, 2014 05:15 PM

Easy-peasey, old chap: "left-side front."

Woe betide the poor soul who tried to affix a near-side knockoff to an off-side hub! Fortunately, fore and aft were no problem.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 15, 2014 01:18 PM (jiM5S)

137 My '68 Super Bee has left side and right side lug nuts. The left hand threaded ones are marked with little notches on the nuts.

Posted by: Ronster at March 15, 2014 01:23 PM (puNd6)

138 Easy-peasey, old chap: "left-side front."

Woe betide the poor soul who tried to affix a near-side knockoff to an off-side hub! Fortunately, fore and aft were no problem.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 15, 2014 05:18 PM (jiM5S)

Nope. Think horse and try again.

Posted by: Retread at March 15, 2014 01:24 PM (cHwk5)

139 @134 - Yeah, thread direction with knockoffs matters. Some automakers used to think it mattered with conventional lug-nuts, too...but I'm not aware of anyone who's used reverse-threaded lug-nuts on one side since Chrysler gave it up (early '70s?) A loose lug-nut will unscrew faster on the left side than the right side, but I guess as long as you don't leave 'em loose you're okay.

Posted by: JEM at March 15, 2014 01:25 PM (o+SC1)

140 Who's the second bird in the pictures?

And very nice headlamps on the first one. Wouldn't mind having those airbags installed in my wheels. But if I did, I'd probably keep crashing the car just because.

Posted by: RightWingProf at March 15, 2014 01:28 PM (RtR5I)

141 "Station Wagon" was originally Australian, as "ranches" are "stations" there.
The original American term was "depot hack." Now, that died out fast.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 15, 2014 01:55 PM (xq1UY)

142 Just think: If Washington's Delaware River crossing had failed, we'd all be speaking English today.

Posted by: rickl at March 15, 2014 02:35 PM (sdi6R)

143 Mrs. E threw me a curve today. She drove to Dallas and bought herself a black Jag X-Type for her 60th birthday. I shouldn't have told her about my other part-time job.

Posted by: Erowmero at March 15, 2014 03:14 PM (1gcFZ)

144 @141 - they're okay, but I think an S-type R might have been better value for money if you don't need snowability...

Posted by: JEM at March 15, 2014 04:01 PM (o+SC1)

145 JEM, she got be black one so we could find it in the snowbanks here in East Texas.

Posted by: Erowmero at March 15, 2014 04:36 PM (1gcFZ)

146 A shooting brake is a two door wagon, or a two door sports coupe itch a wagon style cargo area. Think along the lines of a Volvo P1800ES. Or just do a google image search.

Posted by: Anon at March 15, 2014 06:14 PM (Jh1cj)

147 In my youth, I heard a British radio broadcast in the 70's, that went something like, "An articulated lorry has overturned and shed its load on the M1." I figured that an American announcer would have entirely different words. Except maybe 'and'...

Posted by: BooBoo at March 15, 2014 06:45 PM (ZGxeO)

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