February 03, 2014

Senate Outlook And Immigration
— DrewM

When he's not slumming here with astronomy posts CAC does election predictions over at The Federalist.

His latest breakdown of this year's Senate races are now up.

Right now, the Republicans are projected a net gain of seven seats, enough for a 52-48 majority in the Senate if ]Alaska Senate Democrat Mark] Begich manages to hold on.

...

What are some races to watch in the month ahead? Oregon could become interesting, particularly the possible contrast of a pediatric neurosurgeon (Dr. Monica Wehby) running against Senator Jeff Merkley. The stateÂ’s exchange is a complete disaster, and Dr. Wehby, focused almost entirely on the health care law, raised an impressive $500k in the last quarter. Since we have no polling data for this match up, weÂ’re going to leave this race as moderate-Democrat. Lastly, Georgia is still a Republican-favored race worth watching. We havenÂ’t had any non-partisan sponsored polling in a while, but the Democrat, Michelle Nunn, has been fund-raising well and picked up endorsements from several former Republican Senators. The stateÂ’s electorate makes getting to the mid-40s easy, but winning is another matter. Still, the Republican field is wide open, and if it turns bitter, a damaged candidate could give her a further boost.

One of the wildcards in this or any scenario is amnesty.

So why with the chance to take control of the Senate and increase their margin in the House are Republicans flirting with the idea of a divisive intra-party fight that takes focus away from ObamaCare? Sean Trende has a few thoughts (with an assist from our own AmishDude".

5) Republicans are afraid of winning.

In the course of my musings on Twitter, AmishDude suggested that the real motive here is that the GOP leadership is actually concerned about the implications of a landslide. Of all the suggestions put out there, this seems to make the most sense, and synthesizes the above theories reasonably well while addressing most of my pushbacks on them.

The idea is twofold. First, a landslide would present as much of a problem as it does an opportunity for those who might want to revisit the issue in 2015, especially if the GOP establishment (or its donors) believes this is a must-do before the 2016 elections. The base would be even more agitated after a big victory, and appalled at any compromise on this issue if the GOP picks it up in 2015. In addition, absent a majority, Democrats wouldnÂ’t have the same incentive to support a bill that contained further compromises, especially since they already view the bill as a compromise in the first place. TheyÂ’d be better off watching Republicans flail and fail to pass a bill as their own base abandons them; this is roughly what happened in the mid-2000s.

This makes sense of the timing issue. Perhaps the GOP really did plan on letting the issue die last summer, when taking the Senate looked like a 50-50 shot, and breaking even in the House seemed like the order of the day. But then the Obamacare rollout hit, and suddenly Republicans looked like they might enjoy a 2010 redux.

If only the GOP were this clever and devious in dealing with Democrats as they are conservatives.

The problem with all this talk that amnesty is a question of timing, that it will be more acceptable next year than it is now, misses two big things.

First, amnesty is unacceptable as a matter of policy and principle. Timing is irrelevant.

Second, imagine the GOP holds it together long enough to win big by focusing on ObamaCare and punting on immigration. Are they really then going to pivot away from ObamaCare and onto amnesty?

Sadly all we're really debating is when the GOP will do something incredibly stupid and not if they will.

Remember all of this the next time someone from Team GOP says conservatives are helping Democrats. If the GOP would stop doing dumb things, we'd be happy to fight the Democrats but we're not there yet.

Added: Right on cue.


Yes, the danger to distracting from the GOP's ObamaCare message is a handful of people on Twitter, not the GOP's congressional leadership's focus on amnesty.


Posted by: DrewM at 08:03 AM | Comments (344)
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1 Is this thing on?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 03, 2014 08:04 AM (6bMeY)

2 Repeat from Ben thread:

14 Republicans Can Take The Senate, If They DonÂ’t Screw It Up



hahahhahaha, they didn't need a snark tag for that. They will be lucky to hold the House if they keep pushing amnesty.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 03, 2014 08:05 AM (T2V/1)

3 The DOP is going to drop the groundhog on immigration.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 08:07 AM (7ObY1)

4 Even if the Republicans take the Senate, don't they need a veto proof majority to get anything done?  Everything they send to the White House to sign will be sent back.

Posted by: jaimo at February 03, 2014 08:07 AM (9U1OG)

5

Summary of posts prediction.

 

Stupid party will do stupid things because they are the stupid party and I'm never going to give them another cent and may just vote for the Democrat or at the least stay home.   Screw the GOP. 

Posted by: Nostrapolynikes at February 03, 2014 08:08 AM (m2CN7)

6 #2? Vic?

Agreed- those guys in the "R" camp could screw up a cannonball.

Posted by: backhoe at February 03, 2014 08:08 AM (ULH4o)

7 "TheyÂ’d be better off watching Republicans flail and fail to pass a bill as their own base abandons them; this is roughly what happened in the mid-2000s." A smart person - always an uncertainty where current Republican "leadership" is involved - would learn something from this, which should be, DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE MADE PREVIOUSLY.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 03, 2014 08:08 AM (itCai)

8 As some horndawg from Arkansas once said, "It's the economy, you fucking idiot!"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 03, 2014 08:09 AM (0HooB)

9 It's deja vu all over again.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 03, 2014 08:09 AM (1EJ2w)

10 One does get the feeling that Boehner and Co., must have signed a blood oath promising moneybag donors that the GOP-led House would bring up a "comprehensive" immigration bill for a floor vote this term.

Posted by: mrp at February 03, 2014 08:10 AM (JBggj)

11

What the fuck are this fucking fuckers fucking doing?

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 03, 2014 08:11 AM (eytER)

12 Boehner and co want to control Obama's Leviathan, not get rid of it.

Having more conservatives in congress makes that tougher for them, so losing in 2014 so as to be able to do better in 2016 with a full slate of left leaning Republicans is acceptable to them.

This isn't a surprise of course, but this is what we get as conservatives because we've continued to support Republicans after they've stabbed us in the back.

In 2006 conservatives rebelled over amnesty, and the leadership gave us the most notable amnesty proponent in the Republican party...and most conservatives supported him. In 2010 conservatives rallied to oppose Obamacare and in return the leadership gave us Mitt Romneycare as the nominee...and most of us supported him.

Until the Republicans start paying a prices for betraying their base this will continue...

 

Posted by: 18-1 at February 03, 2014 08:12 AM (P3U0f)

13 It's like Andy Reid and his stellar prevent defence are in charge of the RNC.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 03, 2014 08:12 AM (1EJ2w)

14 When a group of seemingly sane people starts doing something irrational, it's likely they are acting on information we don't have. What that info is is the question.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at February 03, 2014 08:12 AM (SCcgT)

15 So why with the chance to take control of the Senate and increase their margin in the House are Republicans flirting with the idea of a divisive intra-party fight that takes focus away from ObamaCare? Because. Then they wouldn't get the invites to the cool parties. They'd be in charge and have to THROW a cool party.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2014 08:12 AM (ndIek)

16 Much like Obama's policies the GOP is purposefully trying to screw the US. Is there any other explanation that makes sense?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 03, 2014 08:12 AM (A98Xu)

17 "Republicans are afraid of winning."

This.

I can't remember which one of the Horde said it, but they summed up neatly.

"The Beltway Republicans don't want to right the ship. They just want to make sure their places are secure in the first-class cabins."

Posted by: torquewrench at February 03, 2014 08:12 AM (gqT4g)

18 We couldn't figure out how to use an Easy Bake Oven.

Posted by: GOPe at February 03, 2014 08:13 AM (Aif/5)

19 Agreed- those guys in the "R" camp could screw up a cannonball. Fuck up an anvil.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2014 08:13 AM (ndIek)

20 What that info is is the question. Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at February 03, 2014 12:12 PM (SCcgT) Yes, just like on "Justice" Roberts they have some juicy web histories or phone records. Not a big leap.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 03, 2014 08:14 AM (A98Xu)

21 In before someone bitches about people saying they'll leave the party/not vote. Oooops. Too late.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 03, 2014 08:14 AM (1EJ2w)

22 "The Beltway Republicans don't want to right the ship. They just want to make sure their places are secure in the first-class cabins."

Posted by: torquewrench at February 03, 2014 12:12 PM (gqT4g)


And that their spouse's or child's lobbyist firm remains flush.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 03, 2014 08:15 AM (kXoT0)

23 Even if the Republicans take the Senate, don't they need a veto proof majority to get anything done?
***
The Constitution makes the Congress by far the most powerful branch of the government.

A motivated, conservative Republican party with even just 50+1 reliable members in both houses could easily force the agenda in DC.

The problem is the Republican leadership is not conservative, the party as a whole is incompetent, and there is no feedback loop to reward/punish for performance. 

Posted by: 18-1 at February 03, 2014 08:15 AM (P3U0f)

24 Right. Because we neeevvvveeerrr talk about obamacare.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 03, 2014 08:15 AM (NRYdU)

25 When you have the GOP leadership on tape doing coke you can pretty much get them to do anything.

Posted by: NSA Tech #9 at February 03, 2014 08:15 AM (Aif/5)

26 "One does get the feeling that Boehner and Co., must have signed a blood oath promising moneybag donors that the GOP-led House would bring up a 'comprehensive' immigration bill for a floor vote this term."

Facebook users, here's your regular reminder that chief among those moneybags donors pushing amnesty as hard as they can is FB's Mark Zuckerberg. Via bullshit astroturf groups named things like "Americans For A Conservative Direction".

Conservative direction, my ass.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 03, 2014 08:15 AM (gqT4g)

27 21 In before someone bitches about people saying they'll leave the party/not vote. Oooops. Too late. Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 03, 2014 Anyone who doesn't think the base is fed up and serious about not caring anymore is an idiot.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 03, 2014 08:16 AM (A98Xu)

28 Never underestimate the ability of the GOP to fuck things up.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 03, 2014 08:16 AM (Z7PrM)

29 "We in the GOP acknowledge there are many problems and pressing issues that are negatively affecting Americans today. We are prepared not only to ignore them, but to make them even worse by siding with the Dimocrats in bringing in millions of uneducated, socialist foreigners who have no skills, refuse to assimilate and think corruption, graft and payoffs are how government gets "done." You're welcome, my fellow Americans."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 03, 2014 08:16 AM (0HooB)

30 "Republicans The NY Jets Can Take Win The Senate Super Bowl If They Don't Screw It Up"

About the same thing...

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 03, 2014 08:16 AM (OtQXp)

31 So did anyone else last night notice that the Red Hot Chili Pepper's instruments weren't plugged in?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 03, 2014 08:16 AM (1EJ2w)

32

A  GOP majority in 2014 causes problems  for the Repubs in  the 2016 presidential election year,  regardless of  their actions.

 

1. Act like Democrat-lite RINOs -  you  lose your base for 2016.

 

2. Act like true conservatives and start taking a machete to  the welfare state -  you completely energize  - what would otherwise be an uninspired  group  - the FSA (47%)  to come out in force.

Posted by: Icedog at February 03, 2014 08:17 AM (GYTqM)

33 As one idea to temper Republican treachery, what about a pledge to not do business with anyone that hires an amnesty House/Senate voter as a consultant?

Boehner and co feel insulated, because even if they were removed from office, they have wealthy friends that will take care of them.

If that lifeline was not there it might change behavior. Of course the problem is to have this be believable we'd have to actually punish at least one Republican traitor in such a fashion first...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 03, 2014 08:17 AM (P3U0f)

34

I can think of five good reasons the GOP needs to win the Senate majority:

 Judges, Harry Reid's retirement, judges, impeachment trial, and judges.

Posted by: Roy at February 03, 2014 08:18 AM (VndSC)

35 19? Yep, heard that phrase, too. I knew a machinist at Malcom McKinnon airport on the Island whose dad gave him a cannonball & told him "bet you can't fuck this up...."

Kid clamped it in a vise and each time he passed it he took one cut with a hacksaw.

In a month or so it was in pieces.

Posted by: backhoe at February 03, 2014 08:18 AM (ULH4o)

36
Anyone who doesn't think the base is fed up and serious about not caring anymore is an idiot.


But you have to vote for us, if not for principles then because (R)!!!!

Posted by: Capital R Republican at February 03, 2014 08:19 AM (Aif/5)

37
We couldn't figure out how to use an Easy Bake Oven.

Posted by: GOPe at February 03, 2014 12:13 PM (Aif/5)









After upgrading the old style bulb with the new, more efficient curlicue bulb, damned thing doesn't work!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2014 08:19 AM (TIIx5)

38 Of all the stupid, backward-ass tinfoil hat crap I have read since 9/11, the insinuation that the Republican leadership is capable of coordinated electoral strategic planning is the craziest.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2014 08:19 AM (659DL)

39 U.S. stocks fell hard on Monday, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average extending losses after its worst monthly percentage drop since May 2012, after factory data offered a disappointing take on the economy.






I thought we were in a glorious recovery. Note to the stupid party: Economy/job market and Obama Care. Just pound that home day after day and even the LIVs might get the message. Might

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 03, 2014 08:19 AM (1Jaio)

40 'Nos gustamos comprar el Mundo una Coke.'

Posted by: GOP at February 03, 2014 08:19 AM (EgLEt)

41 When you have the GOP leadership on tape doing coke you can pretty much get them to do anything.
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Well, I think it is the Michael Irvin style parties that they are really worried about. I mean hell, Barky can't go a week without a hit or 10 himself.

Posted by: NSA Tech #10 at February 03, 2014 08:19 AM (P3U0f)

42 Who the heck is this Rick Wilson penis?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 03, 2014 08:19 AM (Q9qpj)

43 12 Boehner and co want to control Obama's Leviathan, not get rid of it. 1000x THIS!!!!!!^^^^^^^

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 08:20 AM (7ObY1)

44 Full disclosure, I'm Indy, R party is too moderate for me in general. I vote for conservatives though, when I have one to vote for. Boehner's plan calls for no path to citizenship. Obama has said in the past that a path to citizenship is a requirement for any immigration bill. So far, so good. I'll wait for further developments.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 03, 2014 08:20 AM (1Y+hH)

45 The republicans could fuck up an anvil iron with a rubber hammer.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 03, 2014 08:21 AM (7Bo+h)

46 This kind of thing is why I think that the shit is about to hit the fan. The people are clearly making their voices heard and the establishment is doing what they can to fuck them over. It's not just on immigration. It's also on the death penalty and various other subjects as well. I think people will only take being sold out for so long before trying SOMETHING drastic.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 08:21 AM (/Crba)

47 Judges, Harry Reid's retirement, judges, impeachment trial, and judges.
___
Dude, we've got this! Look at our record.

John Souter Roberts
Gang of X
John Souter Roberts
Say...what?
John Souter Roberts


Posted by: The Republican Leadership at February 03, 2014 08:21 AM (P3U0f)

48 Overthrow the government, renounce the federal debt, dissolve the Republic, establish separate regional governments, notify foreign powers that we will expand our nuclear force and will launch a full-scale nuclear, biological, and chemical strike upon any nation that seeks to influence the restoration, relocate to the region with the largest military presence, perform sneak attack upon the so-called Blue regions/urban area/college towns, enslave Blue populations and use them for organ harvesting, recolonize formerly Blue areas, rescue the nation.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 03, 2014 08:21 AM (Ec6wH)

49 Boehner's plan calls for no path to citizenship. Check yon small print details, bwana.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2014 08:21 AM (659DL)

50 Is there anything gheyer than a Twitter profile? GOP Media Guy, Dad, Pilot, Hunter, Amateur Epistemologist, Cognitive Engineer, Cutter of Brush.Tweets mine, not my clients' obvs. DMs off-record. #TeamWilson

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 08:22 AM (7ObY1)

51 38 Of all the stupid, backward-ass tinfoil hat crap I have read since 9/11, the insinuation that the Republican leadership is capable of coordinated electoral strategic planning is the craziest. --- They're capable of doing it. Willing to do what it takes, though? Not so much, because they want THEIR apparachiks in place to do what they're told and NOT to do what the people want.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 08:22 AM (/Crba)

52 Even if the Republicans take the Senate, don't they need a veto proof majority to get anything done? Everything they send to the White House to sign will be sent back.

Posted by: jaimo at February 03, 2014 12:07 PM (9U1OG)

Two things:

1. Any house-Senate negotiations will not come after Harry Reid "filling the amendment tree."


2. Obama will have to negotiate for the things he wants against a GOP controlled congress, rather than just talking smack about Republican obstruction while Harry and friends table everything.

 



Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 03, 2014 08:22 AM (Q9qpj)

53 BTW, everybody I follow on Twitter who is talking about the Coke ad is complaining about people who are complaining about the ad. I have seen only one tweet -- one, from Todd Starnes, who is apparently a contrarion who covets controversy -- even questioning it. If I had to register an opinion, it struck me as pablum and claptrap, but on that score, the "I'd like to teach the world to sing" ad is leagues more offensive. But I guess even on the right, the lure of the bien pensants is an irresistible siren song. The desire to show oneself enlightened by chastising shadowy and nonexistent (almost) anonymous people on the Internet is too sweet to resist.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 08:22 AM (T0NGe)

54 39? Which Recovery(less) Summer are we headed into now?
2008?
2009?
2010?
2011?
2012?
2013?
Now 2014???

Posted by: backhoe at February 03, 2014 08:22 AM (ULH4o)

55
U.S. stocks fell hard on Monday, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average
extending losses after its worst monthly percentage drop since May 2012,
after factory data offered a disappointing take on the economy.






I thought we were in a glorious recovery. Note to the stupid party: Economy/job market and Obama Care. Just pound that home day after day and even the LIVs might get the message. Might

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 03, 2014 12:19 PM (1Jaio)









Old and busted: The economy is great! Look at that soaring DJIA!

New hotness: A tanking DJIA has NOTHING to do with the state of the economy!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2014 08:23 AM (TIIx5)

56 if I was running the GOP, I'd advertise, "IF Hispanic voters want amnesty then vote GOP otherwise if we win - it ain't happening" Remember McCain's reaction after he lost and 90% of the Hispanic vote went to Bumbles.

Posted by: MikeH at February 03, 2014 08:23 AM (DNTer)

57 I think people will only take being sold out for so long before trying SOMETHING drastic.
***
The technocrats in Europe have shown that if you do it slowly enough and with enough media cover that you can replace representative government with something that only has the veneer of popular support in a couple of generations.

The Democrats are fairly open this is the future they want for the US, and it looks more and more like the Republicans want to be a "Christian Democrat" party too...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 03, 2014 08:23 AM (P3U0f)

58 In before someone bitches about people saying they'll leave the party/not vote.


Oooops. Too late.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 03, 2014 12:14 PM (1EJ2w

 

Why don't you say a couple of hundred more times.   I don't think people heard the first couple of hundred times. 

Posted by: Nostrapolynikes at February 03, 2014 08:23 AM (m2CN7)

59

"Conservatives burning bandwidth on a stupid Coke ad and not talking about Obamacare. ("I'll take, 'Why will we **** up 2014?' Alex!")"

 

 

Well, I think we figured out Chi-Town Jerry's twitter handle.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 03, 2014 08:24 AM (YYJjz)

60 ...but this is what we get as conservatives because we've continued to support Republicans after they've stabbed us in the back. Unfortunately, there are some people for whom this light bulb hasn't yet been illuminated. We're all aware of the type - the strident we-have-to-win-elections people for whom it seems no crap sandwich the Republican Party puts forward is awful enough to reject.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 03, 2014 08:24 AM (itCai)

61 My only consolation is having Ted Cruz as Senator and Kenny Marchant as Representative. Two solid conservatives. All I can do is shake my fist at the rest of those nimrods.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 03, 2014 08:24 AM (1EJ2w)

62 50 Is there anything gheyer than a Twitter profile? ... Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 12:22 PM (7ObY1) Bruno Mars Super Bowl Halftime show?

Posted by: MikeH at February 03, 2014 08:24 AM (DNTer)

63 The Meatball better not come back here without a peace offering or he's liable to end up like Peyton Manning or worse.

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2014 08:24 AM (UzPAd)

64 Wow. Does he really believe there's an equivalency here? @TheRickWilson 2m And if you expect leadership to focus on the right issues, the grassroots has to do the same.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 03, 2014 08:24 AM (zDsvJ)

65 50 Is there anything gheyer than a Twitter profile? GOP Media Guy, Dad, Pilot, Hunter, Amateur Epistemologist, Cognitive Engineer, Cutter of Brush.Tweets mine, not my clients' obvs. DMs off-record. #TeamWilson Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 12:22 PM (7ObY1) I have a quote from Andrew Breitbart on mine.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 08:25 AM (T0NGe)

66 The people who vote don't want amnesty, but the people who stuff    money into re-election coffers do.  

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 03, 2014 08:25 AM (aq5Dc)

67 Well, I think it is the Michael Irvin style parties that they are really worried about. I mean hell, Barky can't go a week without a hit or 10 himself.

Posted by: NSA Tech #10 at February 03, 2014 12:19 PM (P3U0f)


Yeah, how would you like to be the poor slob or slobette who has to manage his dosages...getting the right amount of uppers for him to appear happy and relaxed combined with enough downers to make him seem cool and above it all.  Must be a real beyonce.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 03, 2014 08:25 AM (kXoT0)

68 Sucker of...well...you know. #TeamWilson

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 03, 2014 08:26 AM (Q9qpj)

69 So, I returned the "survey" I got from Boner today with, "Fuck off, you amnesty-loving bitch" in black marker.

Written over the donation section, as that's the only thing that'd ever be looked at.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 03, 2014 08:26 AM (VjL9S)

70 53 BTW, everybody I follow on Twitter who is talking about the Coke ad is complaining about people who are complaining about the ad. I have seen only one tweet -- one, from Todd Starnes, who is apparently a contrarion who covets controversy -- even questioning it. --- Don't muddle things with facts, AmishDude.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 03, 2014 08:26 AM (zDsvJ)

71 Now you listen to me, you smooth-talking son-of-a-bitch, let me lay it on the line for you and your boss, whoever he is! Johnny Fontane will never get that movie! I don't care how many dago guinea wop greaseball goombahs come out of the woodwork!

Tom Hagen: I'm German-Irish.

Well, let me tell you something, my kraut-mick friend, I'm gonna make so much trouble for you, you won t know what hit you!  

Posted by: Jack Woltz at February 03, 2014 08:26 AM (Pr6hk)

72
The Meatball better not come back here without a peace offering or he's liable to end up like Peyton Manning or worse.

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2014 12:24 PM (UzPAd)








Some ginormous, margin-busting plaid maps would be a good start.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 03, 2014 08:27 AM (TIIx5)

73 Bruno Mars Super Bowl Halftime show?

Posted by: MikeH at February 03, 2014 12:24 PM (DNTer)


I must confess that Bruno and the other group both seemed like no talent messes to me.  But what do I know?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 03, 2014 08:27 AM (kXoT0)

74 We're all aware of the type - the strident we-have-to-win-elections people for whom it seems no crap sandwich the Republican Party puts forward is awful enough to reject
***
I've said it before, but if a conservative third party candidate got 10% of the vote in 2012 and Romney lost by double digits would we be talking about the Republicans giving Obama everything he wants?

The people running the R party would become very, very focused on their immediate electoral prospects instead I think...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 03, 2014 08:27 AM (P3U0f)

75 Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 03, 2014 12:21 PM

A bit overboard, eh? (That's Canadianese, in case you're wondering)

My dream is a bit more reasonable:  A picture of President Sarah Palin in every federal office, every post office, every federal court building in the country.  For four years.

Posted by: mrp at February 03, 2014 08:27 AM (JBggj)

76 The technocrats in Europe have shown that if you do it slowly enough and with enough media cover that you can replace representative government with something that only has the veneer of popular support in a couple of generations. --- The European Technocrats are smarter than the two groups of fucking idiots currently in DC. Euros did it on an incremental scale to get people adjusted to it. The fucking idiots we have went full-on retard around Inauguration Day 2009, if not before, to the point where people have noticed and gotten visibly pissed.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 08:27 AM (/Crba)

77 >>>So did anyone else last night notice that the Red Hot Chili Pepper's instruments weren't plugged in?<<<

They've been doing this to the Rolling Stones for about the last two decades now.  Nobody seems to mind.

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2014 08:27 AM (UzPAd)

78 The GOP needs to take the Senate back if for no other reason than to stop the flood of libtard judges that Zero is packing the courts with. The courts are where the Obama time bombs are, they'll be around a long time.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 03, 2014 08:27 AM (YmPwQ)

79 All this talk about the Coke ad is distracting from the more dangerous Pepsi problem.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 03, 2014 08:27 AM (kxSZr)

80 They've been doing this to the Rolling Stones for about the last two decades now. Nobody seems to mind. --- Considering that Keith is a zombie being controlled by a Haitian priestess putting a heroin needle in a doll's arm, I'm not surprised.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 08:28 AM (/Crba)

81 The people who vote don't want amnesty, but the people who stuff money into re-election coffers do.
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Hey, if we amnesty them they'll pay for all our free shit, right? I mean, having other people have to do all the work while you get all the profits of their labor is cool...right?

Posted by: The FSA at February 03, 2014 08:29 AM (P3U0f)

82 If I was on Twitter, I guess my profile would be: Ex-GOpe. Non-wearer of pants. Shooter of Bambi. Pusher of Grandma off a cliff. Seeker of finer distilled spirits. Accepter of less-finer distilled spirits. Boobeh aficionado. Occasional toaster fucker. Cutter of farts. Blamer of said farts on dog. Get off my lawn.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 08:29 AM (7ObY1)

83 OT, but RIP Barry Rubin.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/barry-rubin-columnist-and-mideast-expert-dies-at-64/

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at February 03, 2014 08:30 AM (4df7R)

84 So the moment that Rick Wilson, whomever he is, tweets about anything other than ObamaCare, I'm going to tweet him back all ZOMGH!!!!! What are you doing dood!?!!!1

Posted by: Jay in PA at February 03, 2014 08:30 AM (3LaGb)

85

@ 74 - "The people running the R party would become very, very focused on their immediate electoral prospects instead I think..."

 

At what point will a critical mass of conservatives and liberty lovers finally realise that the electoral prospects of the GOP aren't in our best interest?

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 03, 2014 08:30 AM (YYJjz)

86 Who the fuck is Rick Wilson? Why is he such an asshole?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 03, 2014 08:31 AM (ZPrif)

87 You'll recall that during the recent election campaign I specifically stated that Coke is Americas greatest geo-political foe, and that Coke, while suitable for some states like my own, was not a useful one size fits all solution to Americas healthcare crisis.

Posted by: MItt Romney at February 03, 2014 08:31 AM (F58x4)

88 78 The GOP needs to take the Senate back if for no other reason than to stop the flood of libtard judges that Zero is packing the courts with. The courts are where the Obama time bombs are, they'll be around a long time. The GOPe would surely stem that tide by appointing rock-solid conservatives who will uphold the Constitution. Like John Roberts, for example. Oh, wait...yep, we're screwed.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 08:31 AM (7ObY1)

89 83? Sorry to learn that- I liked the guy's writing.

Posted by: backhoe at February 03, 2014 08:32 AM (ULH4o)

90 Well, my thanks to Coke for the squirrel.

Posted by: Cheerios at February 03, 2014 08:32 AM (aDwsi)

91 From the sidebar, VDH describing what he refers to as "A Beat-up, Exhausted and Terrified Republican Establishment".

Sounds like a seriously promising start.

BRB. Have to check on that shipment of 200 sacks of fresh feathers. And the tar is just starting to bubble nicely.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 03, 2014 08:32 AM (gqT4g)

92 86 Who the fuck is Rick Wilson? Why is he such an asshole? I'm an Epistemologist asshole

Posted by: Rick Wilson at February 03, 2014 08:32 AM (7ObY1)

93 I liked Rick Wilson's harmonies on I Get Around.

Wait, what?

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 03, 2014 08:32 AM (RUvjp)

94 The GOPe would surely stem that tide by appointing rock-solid conservatives who will uphold the Constitution.

Like John Roberts, for example.

The same GOP, many of whom voted to confirm Eric Holder I might add.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 03, 2014 08:33 AM (kxSZr)

95 BRB. Have to check on that shipment of 200 sacks of fresh feathers. And the tar is just starting to bubble nicely. --- Don't forget the tractor-trailers full of railroad ties so that these losers can be hauled to the city limits by people instead of trucks.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 08:33 AM (/Crba)

96 Rick Wilson...he was the Seahawks QB, right?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 03, 2014 08:34 AM (0HooB)

97 Anyone who describes himself as a "cognitive engineer" needs a good hobo strapping.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 03, 2014 08:34 AM (YYJjz)

98 GOP frontrunners: ChristieÂ…Â…Mr. "Obama let me rub your balls!! Please!" RubioÂ…Â…Â….Mr. "I'll start the immigration talk!Â….With Schumer!" RyanÂ…Â…Â…..Mr. "Yes, a budget that cuts vets benefits sounds like a great idea!!" And the funniest I've heard: RomneyÂ….Mr. "I love me some socialized medicine and I'll never be mean to anyone who disagrees with me!!Â…for the children!!"

Posted by: Seems legit at February 03, 2014 08:34 AM (A98Xu)

99

I watched that Coke ad.  And having done so, I am now convinced we should be more  of a rainbow of a nation.  We need more gooks, spics, hymies, coloreds and injuns. 

 

Coke IS amnesty, man!  Don't you get it?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 03, 2014 08:34 AM (TOk1P)

100 GOP Media Person?

What exactly does one of them do, hold journalists' coats and hats while they pummel our candidates?

Give handjobs at the Gridiron dinner?

Arrange lobotomies for GOP congressmen who get selected for leadership positions?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 03, 2014 08:34 AM (Q9qpj)

101 BTW, neither the Cheerio's or Coke ad made my tiny hard little charcoal gray lump of a heart twinge.  I actually liked the Cherrio's ad--since I am majorly in favor of little girls getting a puppy.  Am I coming down with something?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 03, 2014 08:34 AM (kXoT0)

102 86 Who the fuck is Rick Wilson?
Why is he such an asshole?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 03, 2014 12:31 PM (ZPrif)



I thought Rick Wilson was the person who first coined "dropping the groundhog" when describing how to lose elections.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 03, 2014 08:34 AM (GgPam)

103 96 Rick Wilson...he was the Seahawks QB, right? I thought he was the original guitar player for the B-52s

Posted by: Rick Wilson at February 03, 2014 08:35 AM (7ObY1)

104 Does Rick Wilson (R-asshole) have any actual power? He's a GOP "strategist"? For who?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 03, 2014 08:35 AM (ZPrif)

105 The GOPe would surely stem that tide by appointing rock-solid conservatives who will uphold the Constitution.
***
Remember when Bush 43 renominate a left over Clinton leftwing extremist?

Ah the GOPe really knows how to play the game...

And for the record Bush 43 had more brains then the current leadership but together.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 03, 2014 08:35 AM (P3U0f)

106 Hey, leave Rick Wilson alone!  He's got to put up with that Dennis kid who lives  next door and always messes with him. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 03, 2014 08:36 AM (TOk1P)

107 http://tinyurl.com/bbpp4gh - Rick Wilson's portfolio, in case you want to see for yourself.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 03, 2014 08:36 AM (YYJjz)

108 I'm a "GOP strategist" too. My main job qualification? Sweater puppies.

Posted by: SE Cupp at February 03, 2014 08:36 AM (7ObY1)

109 The same GOP, many of whom voted to confirm Eric Holder I might add.
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I
AM
THE
LAW

Posted by: Eric Dredd Holder at February 03, 2014 08:36 AM (P3U0f)

110 DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE MADE PREVIOUSLY.

But....but   That's our Game Plan?

Posted by: Paladin at February 03, 2014 08:36 AM (ycm4Q)

111 My main job qualification? Sweater puppies.
___
Gross

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 03, 2014 08:37 AM (P3U0f)

112 The GOPe would surely stem that tide by appointing rock-solid conservatives who will uphold the Constitution.

Like John Roberts, for example.

Oh, wait...yep, we're screwed.

====

Well, blocking Zero's circuit court appointments was the one thing that the Senate GOP was doing well. It forced Reid into his limited nuclear option. At the very least they'll be able to staunch that wound.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 03, 2014 08:37 AM (YmPwQ)

113 Don't forget the hipster glasses.

Posted by: SE Cupp at February 03, 2014 08:37 AM (Q9qpj)

114 My take on the Coke ad, spill some blood for this country, stand on the front lines and protect. Add something to the US and not send all your earnings overseas. Be part of this country and then you can sing

Posted by: MikeH at February 03, 2014 08:37 AM (DNTer)

115 So this Rick Wilson is trying to be, what, the next Karl Rove? Who has he worked for? What elections has he won? I'm actually curious. He's a Florida guy. Did he work for Rick Scott? Did he work on the last prez cycle? Honestly don't know who this guy is. Trying to figure out what to blame/credit him for. What has he actually done other than being a twitter scold?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 03, 2014 08:37 AM (ZPrif)

116 108 I'm a "GOP strategist" too. My main job qualification? Sweater puppies. Posted by: SE Cupp at February 03, 2014 12:36 PM (7ObY1) --- Your cupps runneth over, honey. Too bad your thoughts aren't as impressive as your tits.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 08:37 AM (/Crba)

117 Now this Rick Wilson dope is tweeting how "deadly" ObamaCare is to Democrats.

I bet he's convinced himself Romney never talked about it or something.

Posted by: Jay in PA at February 03, 2014 08:37 AM (3LaGb)

118 Step1: Screw over our base
Step2: Whatever
Step3: Profit as consultants and lobbyists.

See underwear gnomes, THAT is how it is done.

Posted by: The Republican Leadership at February 03, 2014 08:38 AM (P3U0f)

119

101 -

 

Only ad that got me was the Lt. who got a hero's welcome from his home town. 

 

What that had to do with selling beer, I do not know, but for some odd reason as I was watching the air around my face got suddenly humid  or something.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 03, 2014 08:39 AM (TOk1P)

120 GOP Strategist:  A man or woman condemned to an eternity of searching for a hill finally worth dying on-and never finding one.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 03, 2014 08:39 AM (Q9qpj)

121 My main job qualification? Sweater puppies.

I'm sorry, we'll have to examine your qualifications more closely.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 03, 2014 08:39 AM (RUvjp)

122 118 Step1: Screw over our base Step2: Whatever Step3: Profit as consultants and lobbyists. HA! Nailed it!

Posted by: Seems legit at February 03, 2014 08:39 AM (A98Xu)

123 What presidential or state campaigns has Rick Wilson worked on as a strategist?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 03, 2014 08:39 AM (ZPrif)

124 Of course, I fully expect Reid to change the rules back right before he hands over the leadership. And the comity wing of the GOP to not extract revenge.

You are right. We are screwed.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 03, 2014 08:39 AM (YmPwQ)

125 I think there's a chance his ticked off about this Breitbart opinion piece. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/02/ Why-Coca-Cola-America-The-Beautiful-Ad-Was-Offensive If that's it, then he's extremely sloppy to attribute things to "the grassroots." Not surprising for a GOP media guy given their track-record.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 03, 2014 08:40 AM (zDsvJ)

126 Before we go any further: Those of you badmouthing Bruno Mars, please remember that we had that Black-Eyed Peas thing just a couple of years ago. Bruno was like Elvis reincarnated next to that.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2014 08:40 AM (659DL)

127 I thought Rick Wilson was the Pawn Stars guy.

Posted by: Adam at February 03, 2014 08:41 AM (Aif/5)

128 Rick Wilson was one of Guliani's media guys in 2008.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2014 08:41 AM (g1DWB)

129 "Only ad that got me was the Lt. who got a hero's welcome from his home town."

The Duffel Blog was on that instantly with their own parody. Of a guy coming home from a long deployment to an empty dusty apartment and a fridge full of forties of Steel Reserve malt liquor.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 03, 2014 08:41 AM (gqT4g)

130

How dare any of you actually have a life outside of politics!  What do you think you are, a normal human being?  It is A-B-C!  Always Be Caucusing!

 

 

Now get back out there and politic and ignore the rest of life!  The 2024 elections are coming up on us and we have to start planning!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 03, 2014 08:42 AM (hLRSq)

131

Feminist groups at more than a dozen universities are planning to participate in another mass “edit Wikipedia day,” because the free, volunteer encyclopedia website is obviously horribly sexist.

 

http://tinyurl.com/kqpsq4b


 

Posted by: Icedog at February 03, 2014 08:42 AM (r5sZy)

132 "HereÂ’s where the accusations of apostasy to the cause come from: IÂ’m one of a non-trivial number of members of the hated consultant class who think digging in for Culture War 3.0 on gay marriage is politically foolish, culturally stupid and boneheaded electorally."

~Rick Wilson, cognitive engineer and 6th ranked light heavyweight pole dancer.

P.S. Legalize marijuana.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 03, 2014 08:42 AM (Q9qpj)

133 Here's a piece in oct. 2012 by Rick Wilson http://ricochet.com/main-feed/The-Inflection-Point He talks about the laughably doomed Obama campaign and how he almost feels sorry for them.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 03, 2014 08:43 AM (ZPrif)

134 I really need to take a groundhog drop

Posted by: Sphynx at February 03, 2014 08:43 AM (OZmbA)

135 Sadly all we're really debating is when the GOP will do something incredibly stupid - No, no. I'm debating how often they will do something incredibly stupid.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 03, 2014 08:43 AM (Hx5uv)

136 So "GOP Strategist" means "I sit in my basement and think of stupid ideas to Tweet about"

Posted by: Jay in PA at February 03, 2014 08:43 AM (3LaGb)

137 Before we go any further: Those of you badmouthing Bruno Mars, please remember that we had that Black-Eyed Peas thing just a couple of years ago. Bruno was like Elvis reincarnated next to that. I wondered who that was on stage with the Chili Peppers. Dude wasn't too bad.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 03, 2014 08:43 AM (0HooB)

138 Never underestimate the ability of the GOP to fuck things up.

YES...the Stupid is strong in them.

Posted by: Paladin at February 03, 2014 08:43 AM (ycm4Q)

139 From time to time my TL on twitter gets littered with what is clearly personal infighting btwn conservatives or GOPers over control of the Breitbart media enterprise. Sometimes it even involves people I normally enjoy. It's getting really old. I wish they'd all bury the hatchet and move on.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 03, 2014 08:43 AM (zDsvJ)

140 The GOP just makes me want to drop a groundhog

Posted by: Sphynx at February 03, 2014 08:43 AM (OZmbA)

141 Hand me my gun.  I still have toes left.

Posted by: John Boehner at February 03, 2014 08:44 AM (8ZskC)

142 Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 03, 2014 12:36 PM (YYJjz) sonofa

Posted by: RWC at February 03, 2014 08:44 AM (fWAjv)

143 Hey, if we amnesty them they'll pay for all our free shit, right? I mean, having other people have to do all the work while you get all the profits of their labor is cool...right?

Posted by: The FSA at February 03, 2014 12:29 PM (P3U0f)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

 

If immigration (with citizenship) passes,  then the republic is truly over, and you damn right I'm going to join the FSA.  Make those  brown people pay for my  leisured ass. 

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2014 08:44 AM (ZDqnR)

144 140 hahahahahaha

Posted by: Seems legit at February 03, 2014 08:44 AM (A98Xu)

145 I'm completely fascinated by the chatter about immigration.

I mean, it's about nothing but political posturing.

The Republican leadership has embedded so many "poison pills" in to their plan vis-à-vis the Democrat's Senate plan, that nothing will pass this year. Additionally, the "don't trust Obama" meme works well with independents.

Meanwhile, the Republicans now have a plan.

Adm. Painter: What's his plan?
Jack Ryan: His plan?
Adm. Painter: Russians don't take a dump, son, without a plan.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2014 08:44 AM (e8kgV)

146 Who has Rick Wilson ever gotten elected?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 03, 2014 08:44 AM (ZPrif)

147 And we're just the guys to do it.

Posted by: Mitch "Bluto" McConnell at February 03, 2014 08:44 AM (8ZskC)

148 131 Feminist groups at more than a dozen universities are planning to participate in another mass “edit Wikipedia day,” because the free, volunteer encyclopedia website is obviously horribly sexist. --- More proof that the women's movement has generally been useless, if not totally counterproductive, since the late 70s / early 80s.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 08:45 AM (/Crba)

149 >>we had that Black-Eyed Peas thing just a couple of years ago. Bruno was like Elvis reincarnated next to that.<<


I kinda miss the old wardrobe malfunction days with Janet Jackson

Posted by: Sphynx at February 03, 2014 08:45 AM (OZmbA)

150 Even if the Republicans take the Senate, don't they need a veto proof majority to get anything done? Everything they send to the White House to sign will be sent back.

Posted by: jaimo at February 03, 2014 12:07 PM (9U1OG)

 

While a Republican-controlled Senate wouldn't be able to advance legislation given the President's veto power, they could stop cold much of the President's agenda and reduce him to lame-duck status the rest of his term. President Obama would, of course, continue to circumvent Congress and the Constitution with his illegal use of Executive power, but even those efforts would be hampered with a Senate Republican majority. 

 

Right now, the big money donors who more or less control the Republican Party are breathing down the necks of the GOP Establishment, demanding movement on amnesty legislation now, damnit. Meanwhile, the conservative base is on the verge of revolt and a replay of the Whig/Republican split in 1852. Forced to choose between the base and the big business wings of the party, the GOP Establishment will always choose the money guys. For them, it's a no-brainer, partly because money talks and partly because the GOP Establishment despises us almost as much as the Democrats do.

Posted by: troyriser at February 03, 2014 08:45 AM (gNlvW)

151 As best I can tell, Bruno Mars and his band did no lipsyncing. I'll give them props for that.

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2014 08:46 AM (AZNLP)

152 The event is a follow-up to last year’s similar edit-a-thon, when feminist sympathizers were called to edit “feminist thought” into Wikipedia articles. - "Feminist thought"? Isn't that an oxymoron?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 03, 2014 08:46 AM (Hx5uv)

153 Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2014 12:44 PM (e8kgV) Yes, because the past is a clear indication that the GOP are real strategists.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 03, 2014 08:46 AM (A98Xu)

154 The status quo, what we have right now, is this: Illegal immigrants come into the country through the borders and overstay their visas. Very few in the overall scheme of things jump the fence and sneak in through the desert. Since we can't ask Hispanic-looking people if they are legal or not, they end up on the welfare rolls, in subsidised housing with food stamps and Obama cell phones. They are treated in our hospitals, given scholarships and march in La Raza rallies. It's next to impossible to deport them even if they are repeat offenders commiting crimes left and right. There is one way to fix all this. It's called "Immigration Reform". Of course, as soon as someone says the words "immigration reform", thousands of knees jerk upwards and the word "amnesty" comes out of their mouths just like "MATT DAMON". For some reason, it's impossible for the conservative mind to conceive of reform in the area of immigration that isn't granting citizenship to millions of illegals. "SLIPPERY SLOPE!" comes the spittle laced retort if asked. "TRAITOR!" is the only word to describe someone who dares to discuss the subject. But maybe, just maybe, there are some people who are against illegals walking into the country and onto the welfare gravy train and who want to do something about it. Like "reform" it. And no, they don't want to give citizenship to 12 million illegals. Yes, they do want to know who these people are, where they live, where they work and a whole lot more. They might even grant them the right to stay in the U.S. under a work program, but they sure don't want to give them citizenship in front of people who are waiting legally. They say this all the time, but no one seems to listen. So, as it stands, all the bright conservatives think that if we can just maintain the status quo everything will be good. We win. We're smart. Yeah.

Posted by: jwest at February 03, 2014 08:46 AM (u2a4R)

155

137 -

 

Halftime is for sitting in the little room, making a groundhog drop, not for sitting there watching fay  musical acts. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 03, 2014 08:46 AM (TOk1P)

156 Don't cry for me bitter clinger,

Posted by: John Boner at February 03, 2014 08:46 AM (6bMeY)

157 So he worked on Giuliani's failed campaign in 08. And he worked on Steelman's failed Senate campaign in 2011. Does he every win anything? Even a fucking primary?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 03, 2014 08:47 AM (ZPrif)

158 >>Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2014 12:44 PM (e8kgV) Ah yep. Last week the freakout was over three senators selling out and coming up with an alternative plan to Obamacare. The suggestion was that they just wanted to manage Obamacare not get rid of it. When the plan was released and the first point as a complete and total repeal of Obamacare we moved on to the next freakout.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2014 08:47 AM (g1DWB)

159 The fucking idiots we have went full-on retard around Inauguration Day 2009,... Given the manner in which they've progressed through academia, it seems unlike them to have gone that route, unless they figured that the takeover was within reach and a lunge, no matter how abrupt, visible, or blatant it might be, was worth the effort.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 03, 2014 08:47 AM (itCai)

160 151 As best I can tell, Bruno Mars and his band did no lipsyncing. I'll give them props for that. --- I'm sure Peyton Manning is doing his own rendition of "Locked Out Of Heaven" right about now. I don't think I'd seen such a one-sided beating in the Super Bowl since the early 90s or late 80s, when the AFC couldn't buy a touchdown.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 08:48 AM (/Crba)

161 How many of Obama's Twitter followers were fake?

And people still pay attention to Twitter?


Posted by: Dang at February 03, 2014 08:48 AM (MNq6o)

162 Rick Wilson said in October 2012 that Obama would lose.

Posted by: Jay in PA at February 03, 2014 08:48 AM (3LaGb)

163

Speaking  of groundhog drops...

 

Oh, it's jwest. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 03, 2014 08:48 AM (TOk1P)

164 When the plan was released and the first point as a complete and total repeal of Obamacare we moved on to the next freakout. Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2014 12:47 PM (g1DWB) Huh, can't say that isn't true.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 03, 2014 08:48 AM (A98Xu)

165 When it comes to halftime shows, no Swedish Death Metal = no BlueStateRebel.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 08:48 AM (7ObY1)

166 Looks like we have a "Tea-Partyer" running against Alexander... http://www.carrfortn.com/ 

We will see....gota listen to him before I throw money down a rat hole..

Posted by: Paladin at February 03, 2014 08:49 AM (ycm4Q)

167 159 The fucking idiots we have went full-on retard around Inauguration Day 2009,... Given the manner in which they've progressed through academia, it seems unlike them to have gone that route, unless they figured that the takeover was within reach and a lunge, no matter how abrupt, visible, or blatant it might be, was worth the effort. --- They figured it WAS within reach, since they had Obama getting "historically" elected, plus both houses. Then they made the major mistake of thinking that Clinton's problem in 1994 was "giving in" to the Republicans and NOT trying to stick it up the public's ass and break it off.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 08:49 AM (/Crba)

168 Speaking of posturing ...

President Barack Obama is counting on Senate Democrats to help approve his legislative agenda during his final years in office. And though they are his staunchest allies on most economic issues, many Democratic senators are breaking with him on key issues in very public ways.

From trade to Iran sanctions, the Keystone XL pipeline, Obamacare, the National Security Agency and energy policy, Senate Democrats seem unusually comfortable criticizing the president, with only minimal concerns about repercussions from the White House.

Even ObamaÂ’s steadfast ally, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, didnÂ’t mince words last week when he rejected a bill to fast-track trade deals that is strongly backed by the White House, working against Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus of Montana, a Senate colleague who has been tapped to be the presidentÂ’s ambassador to China.

Even some Republicans are noticing.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2014 08:49 AM (e8kgV)

169 I can't seem to find any examples of Rick Wilson successfully getting anybody elected to anything. He's a Florida GOP strategist. I do find articles that specifically say he is unaffiliated with Gov. Rick Scott. A Republican who actually won in Florida.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 03, 2014 08:49 AM (ZPrif)

170

Speaking of groundhog drops...

Oh, it's jwest.

 

---------------

 

Slow clap.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 03, 2014 08:50 AM (eytER)

171 Snow and cold is the forcast for all this week in OKC.  I'm ready for spring.

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2014 08:50 AM (ZDqnR)

172 We will see....gota listen to him before I throw money down a rat hole.. You also need to find out who's giving him money and whether or not he's a Dim plant.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 03, 2014 08:51 AM (0HooB)

173 unless they figured that the takeover was within reach
***
I seem to recall an experiment where they put a piece of candy in front of kids and told them if they waited 15m and did not eat it they would get 2 pieces instead.

Almost every kid ate the candy instead of waiting.

And this is I think what happened with the left after Barky's election.

Fortunately for us, forcing the country so far left is the one thing that has any hope of reversing the tide.

Unfortunately for us, we have few leaders of any note and the left controls almost every major institution already...including the Republican party.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 03, 2014 08:51 AM (P3U0f)

174
I think it matters not while obama is in office.   Tyrants like tyranny.

but things that I think could happen if repubs have house and senate:

GOP makes deal with obama that in return for confiscation of 401k s into govt retirement accts the gop will agree to more gun control laws.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 03, 2014 08:51 AM (n0DEs)

175 162 Rick Wilson said in October 2012 that Obama would lose. I also predicted a Broncos win. Being a "GOP strategist" means never having to be held accountable. I predict sweltering temperatures hovering around the century mark for Fairbanks, AK tomorrow. I also predict that monkeys will fly out of my ass. Cognitive Engineering, baby!

Posted by: Rick Wilson at February 03, 2014 08:51 AM (7ObY1)

176 Illegal immigrants come into the country through the borders and overstay their visas. Very few in the overall scheme of things jump the fence and sneak in through the desert. I want you to keep going with that, jwest. It is pure fucking bullshit, but just keep going with it. You will win over people like me who, you know, DEAL WITH IT ON A DAILY BASIS. You. Do. Not. Know. Dick.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2014 08:51 AM (659DL)

177 I'm ready for spring.

You'll get six more weeks of winter and like it.

Posted by: Punxsutawney Phil at February 03, 2014 08:52 AM (RUvjp)

178 I seem to recall an experiment where they put a piece of candy in front of kids and told them if they waited 15m and did not eat it they would get 2 pieces instead.

Almost every kid ate the candy instead of waiting.


It was marshmellows.


Posted by: EC at February 03, 2014 08:52 AM (GQ8sn)

179 "President Barack Obama is counting on Senate Democrats to help approve his legislative agenda" ...

Obama has a "legislative agenda" ?

I thought he was going to use his pen and phone ?!?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2014 08:52 AM (e8kgV)

180 The status quo, what we have right now, is this: Illegal immigrants come into the country through the borders and overstay their visas. Very few in the overall scheme of things jump the fence and sneak in through the desert. Since we can't ask Hispanic-looking people if they are legal or not, they end up on the welfare rolls, in subsidised housing with food stamps and Obama cell phones. They are treated in our hospitals, given scholarships and march in La Raza rallies. It's next to impossible to deport them even if they are repeat offenders commiting crimes left and right. There is one way to fix all this. Bounties. Treat them as the foriegn invaders that they are.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2014 08:52 AM (ndIek)

181 They say this all the time, but no one seems to listen.


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WE. DON'T. TRUST. THEM.


Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 03, 2014 08:52 AM (YmPwQ)

182 You. Do. Not. Know. Dick.
___
I DO!

Wait...uh...I meant the former Senator from..uh...North Kansas? That is one of the 57 states still right?

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 03, 2014 08:53 AM (P3U0f)

183 If you like your winter you can keep your winter or not.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 03, 2014 08:53 AM (6bMeY)

184 Oh cripes, on NESN ( New England Sports Network) Hillary has the "Tweet of the year" and "Won the Super Bowl" with some obnoxious Tweet about FOX last night. Something like "So nice to watch Fox and not be the one being blitzed and sacked.". Bitchbag skank.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2014 08:53 AM (ZshNr)

185

From trade to Iran sanctions, the Keystone XL pipeline, Obamacare, the National Security Agency and energy policy, Senate Democrats seem unusually comfortable criticizing the president, with only minimal concerns about repercussions from the White House.

 

----------------------------------------

 

 

Because they know, especially with the Keystone project,  that even if the preezy gave the go-ahead, they'll have lots of leftist fed judges to hold it up indefinitely.

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2014 08:54 AM (ZDqnR)

186

Random thought:

When they aired a reading of the Declaration last night, how many Americans sat up at took note when this was said out loud:  "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such government and provide new guards for their future security."

I didn't expect the government to allow that statement to get on the air.

I also wonder if anyone heard: "we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor," and noted (aloud, as I did) that 'people just don't talk like that anymore.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 03, 2014 08:54 AM (fwARV)

187 I seem to recall an experiment where they put a piece of candy in front of kids and told them if they waited 15m and did not eat it they would get 2 pieces instead. Almost every kid ate the candy instead of waiting. It was marshmellows. Posted by: EC at February 03, 2014 12:52 PM (GQ8sn) Yeah, and a few kids really struggle, wanting to hold out. Within 30 seconds, LIVs would be demanding why they couldn't get two to start with because, reasons, and I got to get mine!

Posted by: Mainah at February 03, 2014 08:54 AM (659DL)

188 We can solve the immigration problem with $25,000 vouchers for everyone!

Posted by: WjEst at February 03, 2014 08:55 AM (Aif/5)

189 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2014 12:51 PM (659DL) Would one of the other credentialed conservatives here please tell this idiot that most illegals don't jump the fence? Please.

Posted by: jwest at February 03, 2014 08:55 AM (u2a4R)

190 Which Recovery(less) Summer are we headed into now? 2008? 2009? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? Now 2014??? - Whenever it is, it'll be because of Obama.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 03, 2014 08:55 AM (Hx5uv)

191 NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New Jersey Democrat leading a probe of the bridge traffic scandal that has engulfed Governor Chris Christie said on Sunday he has seen no evidence to support claims that the governor had been aware of the apparently politically motivated traffic jams as they happened.

The remarks by Assemblyman John Wisniewski, who co-leads the probe, came two days after a former Christie appointee at the agency overseeing the bridge who personally oversaw the lane closures said "evidence exists" that Christie had knowledge of the blockage when it happened.

If such evidence does exist, a state panel investigating the closures has not yet seen it, Wisniewski said.

... the New York Slimes obviously didn't send him the memo

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2014 08:55 AM (e8kgV)

192 I thought Rick Wilson was the person who first coined "dropping the groundhog" when describing how to lose elections. DeBlasio did just that. http://tinyurl.com/puwqm4y

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 08:55 AM (T0NGe)

193 It was marshmellows.


Posted by: EC
===
Total. Vindication.

Posted by: Dr. Raymond Stantz at February 03, 2014 08:55 AM (JBggj)

194 So, the Rick Wilson's (RW) of the world IMPLORE US to "stay focused on Obama Care" while kicking conservatives in the sack when they attempted to ACTUALLY defund the thing by shutting the govt. down. Then, when no one but RINO's mention the shutdown anymore, the RW crowd starts talking "amnesty", gets their collective ass kicked by the base, and now screams that the "base" needs to get focused on Obama Care again. All the while Cantor, Ryan and the Chamber of Commerce are now publicly admitting they have no intentions on deep-sixing O-Care, instead, they will simply "amend" the bill if they take the Senate. Do I have this about right? And, btw, drop the tin-foil/machiavellian crap regarding the GOP's motivation(s) behind supporting amnesty! MONEY, MONEY and more MONEY for individual members of the party (see Chamber of Commerce) that will pad their "retirement" is the primary reason why these filthy weasels support this crap!

Posted by: WVinMN at February 03, 2014 08:55 AM (4Pleu)

195 I'll do all the sacking of Hillary, I'll have you know.

Posted by: Huma Abedin at February 03, 2014 08:55 AM (OZmbA)

196 Illegal immigrants come into the country through the borders and overstay their visas. Very few in the overall scheme of things jump the fence and sneak in through the desert. ============== Tel that to my mother. Until just recently, she lived a half hour north of Nogales. She had streams of illegals coming thru the desert behind her house on a nightly basis.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 03, 2014 08:55 AM (P6QsQ)

197 Before we go any further: Those of you badmouthing Bruno Mars, please remember that we had that Black-Eyed Peas thing just a couple of years ago. Bruno was like Elvis reincarnated next to that.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2014 12:40 PM (659DL)


We also had Prince.  I do not have to like Mars and the RHCPs just because the Black Eyed Peas also stink.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 03, 2014 08:55 AM (kXoT0)

198 Would one of the other credentialed conservatives here please tell this idiot that most illegals don't jump the fence?


With the big gaps, there is no need to jump.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 03, 2014 08:56 AM (8ZskC)

199 So, as it stands, all the bright conservatives think that if we can just maintain the status quo everything will be good. We win. We're smart.

Yeah.

Posted by: jwest at February 03, 2014 12:46 PM (u2a4R)

 

 

The status quo sucks, I don't think you'll get disagreement on that.  The problem is that the Republican leadership  hasn't generated a great deal of trust with the conservative faction.  So any mention of moving out of the status quo is immediately greeted with suspicions of betrayals, and I think this will continue for the foreseeable future.

 

 

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 03, 2014 08:56 AM (hLRSq)

200 If such evidence does exist, a state panel investigating the closures has not yet seen it, Wisniewski said. --- Cue the Dem trolls screaming "Well, he obviously found a way to order it without leaving fingerprints behind!" Christ, I hate Christie but this whole manner has been a rank embarassment to the PRESS more than anyone.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 08:56 AM (/Crba)

201

The Maine Supreme Judicial Court on Thursday guaranteed the right of a transgender child to use the school bathroom designated for the gender with which he or she identifies....In CA, a girl with a penis will have to be allowed to use the girlÂ’s locker rooms and allowed on female sports teams, and vice versa.

 

This  demands  its own thread!

Posted by: Icedog at February 03, 2014 08:57 AM (and2K)

202 I am still not sure what the reason is for the GOP wanting amnesty.

Is the GOP truly delusional, thinking that passing an amnesty will result in any change of the Hispanic vote?

Or, is it that the GOP big-donors want amnesty because "cheap labor"?

Neither of those things makes any sort of logical sense.  Amnesty will not result in cheap labor - it will increase labor costs for those currently hiring illegals as the illegals obtain legal status and become entitled to various statutory benefits - overtime pay, FMLA leave, etc. (not to mention payroll taxes for those paying the illegals under the table).  Plus, the illegals will likely want better wages once they no longer have to worry about immigration issues. And, the unions are salivating at organizing the newly legalized immigrants - which will increase labor costs dramatically. So, the idea that amnesty somehow results in keeping labor costs down is nonsensical. 

The only way that amnesty can result in lower wages (and/or keeping wages at their current low level) is if one is confident that an amnesty will result in a new wave of illegal immigrants to hire.

Put another way - the pro amnesty people claim that amnesty will not be a huge drain on federal and state resources because allegedly these illegals are almost all working at good paying jobs and therefore will not immediately go on various state and federal entitlement programs.  Assuming this is true, passing an amnesty is not going to lower labor costs or keep labor costs down.  It can only increase those costs. 

Unless we are being lied to and the vast majority of illegals don't work at all, and the sudden influx of legal workers created by an amnesty drives wages down (which also means lots of people going on state and federal entitlement programs).

In other words, to the extent big-donors want cheap labor, the status quo is better than amnesty - unless they are trying to screw over the American worker and seeking ways to drive the American workers' wages down.   

As far as Hispanics voting for the GOP based on amnesty - it is absurd.  There is no factual basis to support such a claim and tons of evidence to refute the argument.  Polls show Hispanics as left on almost every economic issue. Hispanics did not increase their vote for the GOP after the 1986 amnesty. And on and on.

So - what is the reason for the amnesty push?  What is it that the brain trust of the GOP truly think amnesty will achieve?  I have seen nothing put forward that even remotely makes sense.

So, there are only 2 logical reasons (having any fact basis) for the GOP wanting an amnesty:

1.  They want to create a new wave of illegals for businesses to hire at low wages; or

2.  They want to create a huge influx of legal workers to drive wages down.

Either of those 2 things is against American interests.

And this is the party we support?  these are the politicians we consider the "good guys"?

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 03, 2014 08:57 AM (sOx93)

203 I don't think I'd seen such a one-sided beating in the Super Bowl since the early 90s or late 80s, when the AFC couldn't buy a touchdown. Forget amnesty, we need the GOP to investigate why Vegas, the sports media, and Manning all thought the Broncos were going to win. Blowout baby!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 03, 2014 08:57 AM (2hTlI)

204 jwest must live in an area where a coyote is an animal kind of like a dog.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 03, 2014 08:57 AM (8ZskC)

205 Posted by: grammie winger at February 03, 2014 12:55 PM (P6QsQ) Yeah grammie. And land sharks still follow the route to feed off the dead they throw to the side of the road.

Posted by: jwest at February 03, 2014 08:57 AM (u2a4R)

206 Given the manner in which they've progressed through academia, it seems unlike them to have gone that route, unless they figured that the takeover was within reach and a lunge, no matter how abrupt, visible, or blatant it might be, was worth the effort.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 03, 2014 12:47 PM (itCai)

 

Imagine you've been spending the best years of you rlife carefully adhering to a decades-long  'march through the institutions'  type of plan and the plan is nearly there. You're figuratively inches away. The goal is almost within reach. It's calling to you like a ripe, low-hanging fruit.  If you were a committed Leftist asshole intent on taking over the country, you'd be tempted to just say screw it and go for it, too.

Posted by: troyriser at February 03, 2014 08:57 AM (gNlvW)

207 You also need to find out who's giving him money and whether or not he's a Dim plant. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 03, 2014 12:51 PM (0HooB) http://tinyurl.com/qfxuz6d Not even going to attempt 'cut and paste' with the info though.

Posted by: RWC at February 03, 2014 08:57 AM (fWAjv)

208 Posted by: jwest at February 03, 2014 12:46 PM (u2a4R)

Great speech, and if that were the sort of thing we could expect to see passed as legislation and enforced by the executive branch, I would be all for it.

Are you arguing that is the sort of immigration reform we will actually get?

Who's naive now, Kaye?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 03, 2014 08:57 AM (Q9qpj)

209 Tel that to my mother. Until just recently, she lived a half hour north of Nogales. She had streams of illegals coming thru the desert behind her house on a nightly basis.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 03, 2014 12:55 PM (P6QsQ)

Tell that to the people all along the border who have to clean up the used diapers, plastic water bottles, broken shoes, and a whole host of other garbage and filth left by the stream of illegals.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 03, 2014 08:58 AM (kXoT0)

210 Billionaires Alice Walton, George Soros and Marc Benioff are helping to finance a super-political action committee encouraging former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to run for president, according to a report filed yesterday with the Federal Election Commission.

Each gave $25,000 to Ready for Hillary PAC, organized a year ago to provide Clinton outside support if she chooses to seek the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination.

... nice to know that she is a "Woman of the People" .. the richest of the rich people

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 03, 2014 08:58 AM (e8kgV)

211 197 Before we go any further: Those of you badmouthing Bruno Mars, please remember that we had that Black-Eyed Peas thing just a couple of years ago. Bruno was like Elvis reincarnated next to that. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2014 12:40 PM (659DL) We also had Prince. I do not have to like Mars and the RHCPs just because the Black Eyed Peas also stink. --- Hey, I didn't stink that night! I was wearing my Depends SPECIFICALLY so I wouldn't wet myself in front of an international audience again!

Posted by: Fergie the Black-Eyed Pea at February 03, 2014 08:58 AM (/Crba)

212 Of course, as soon as someone says the words "immigration reform", thousands of knees jerk upwards and the word "amnesty" comes out of their mouths just like "MATT DAMON". We've been asked to kick that football before, Lucy.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 08:58 AM (T0NGe)

213 I thought Bruno Mars was better than Prince was.

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2014 08:58 AM (AZNLP)

214

178 -

 

The old version  from decades ago  was marshmellows.  It's been updated, and you can find the videos  online.  Interesting to watch, and it really does say something about human nature. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 03, 2014 08:58 AM (TOk1P)

215 10 One does get the feeling that Boehner and Co., must have signed a blood oath promising moneybag donors that the GOP-led House would bring up a "comprehensive" immigration bill for a floor vote this term. Posted by: mrp It's called a 'toll fee' I think. He gets the money first but has to bring it up for vote. There was an exposé over at Breitbart last year about how he did this with the wireless industry. He made them fork over millions to PACS and funds before he would bring bills affecting them to the floor.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 03, 2014 08:59 AM (KqFcQ)

216 Yeah grammie. And land sharks still follow the route to feed off the dead they throw to the side of the road. ============ I freely admit I have no idea what this comment means.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 03, 2014 08:59 AM (P6QsQ)

217 Hell I thought Rick Wilson was Charlie Wilson and I was all-- "ooooh good movie!"

Posted by: tasker--needs coffee at February 03, 2014 08:59 AM (RJMhd)

218 Frankly I'd be amazed if the Republicans retain the house.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2014 08:59 AM (zfY+H)

219 216 Yeah grammie. And land sharks still follow the route to feed off the dead they throw to the side of the road. *********** Without looking-- was it Sven?

Posted by: Karnak Says at February 03, 2014 09:00 AM (RJMhd)

220 My stance on shamnesty is pretty simple:


Build the fucking fence already or STFU.

Posted by: mugiwara at February 03, 2014 09:00 AM (W7ffl)

221 214 178 - The old version from decades ago was marshmellows. It's been updated, and you can find the videos online. Interesting to watch, and it really does say something about human nature. --- Hey, I could have told you this probably 80 years ago.

Posted by: J. Wellington Wimpy at February 03, 2014 09:01 AM (/Crba)

222 218 Frankly I'd be amazed if the Republicans retain the house.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2014 12:59 PM (zfY+H)


Your lips to God's ears. 

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 03, 2014 09:01 AM (sOx93)

223 @219 Karnak No, jwest.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 03, 2014 09:01 AM (P6QsQ)

224 132 "HereÂ’s where the accusations of apostasy to the cause come from: IÂ’m one of a non-trivial number of members of the hated consultant class who think digging in for Culture War 3.0 on gay marriage is politically foolish, culturally stupid and boneheaded electorally." ~Rick Wilson, cognitive engineer and 6th ranked light heavyweight pole dancer. P.S. Legalize marijuana. Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 03, 2014 12:42 PM (Q9qpj) I love how, because gay marriage became the in thing last week, and marijuana legalization became the cool thing to support yesterday, that anyone who even hesitates on either issue is the worst type of Neanderthal. I guess in a couple of years we will be vilified for not lending our enthusiastic support to partial-birth abortion.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 03, 2014 09:01 AM (r+7wo)

225 The Maine Supreme Judicial Court on Thursday guaranteed the right of a transgender child to use the school bathroom designated for the gender with which he or she identifies....In CA, a girl with a penis will have to be allowed to use the girlÂ’s locker rooms and allowed on female sports teams, and vice versa. This demands its own thread! Posted by: Icedog at February 03, 2014 12:57 PM (and2K) Sigh....my home state. Secondably, doesn't this mean there would need to be a Title 9a or Title 9, version 2? I mean, how can you allow some 6' 2", 200 pound male who decides he's a chick, play on a female team?

Posted by: Mainah at February 03, 2014 09:01 AM (659DL)

226 Illegal alien garbage:  http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/29/us-immigration-usa-trash-idUSTRE80S0QB20120129

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 03, 2014 09:01 AM (kXoT0)

227 It's Marshmallows Not marshmellows Unless you're eating them in Colorado.

Posted by: Marshmallows at February 03, 2014 09:02 AM (7ObY1)

228 When the plan was released and the first point as a complete and total repeal of Obamacare we moved on to the next freakout. Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2014 12:47 PM (g1DWB) The problem with that was strategic. Even if it's a great plan, it's a plan, which makes it a target, which takes attention off of Obamacare. There are two things people know: Obamacare is bad by every measure (getting more people covered, quality of coverage, customer service) and the system pre-Obamacare was better. Don't confuse people.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 09:02 AM (T0NGe)

229

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 03, 2014 12:57 PM (sOx93)

 

You forgot the really big checks, with lots of zeroes and commas.

These are politicians, after all - corrupt and venal is just the floor for their behavior.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 03, 2014 09:02 AM (hLRSq)

230 Yeah grammie. And land sharks still follow the route to feed off the dead they throw to the side of the road. You're kind of a spaz, aren't you?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 03, 2014 09:02 AM (2hTlI)

231 >>Frankly I'd be amazed if the Republicans retain the house. You think senior Dem reps like Moran, Miller and the odious nose hair Waxman just want to spend more time with their kids?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2014 09:02 AM (g1DWB)

232 I also wonder if anyone heard: "we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor," and noted (aloud, as I did) that 'people just don't talk like that anymore.'

----

They're now called  "Hills To Die On".

Damn straight we dont say that anymore.

Posted by: GOP at February 03, 2014 09:03 AM (nELVU)

233 Secondably, doesn't this mean there would need to be a Title 9a or Title 9, version 2? I mean, how can you allow some 6' 2", 200 pound male who decides he's a chick, play on a female team? --- Hey, worked for me and Baylor basketball.

Posted by: Brittany Griner at February 03, 2014 09:03 AM (/Crba)

234 225 The Maine Supreme Judicial Court on Thursday guaranteed the right of a transgender child to use the school bathroom designated for the gender with which he or she identifies....In CA, a girl with a penis will have to be allowed to use the girlÂ’s locker rooms and allowed on female sports teams, and vice versa.

This demands its own thread!
Posted by: Icedog at February 03, 2014 12:57 PM (and2K)

How many high school guys will declare themselves female just for the locker room access?  What a great time to be 17.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 03, 2014 09:03 AM (sOx93)

235 Secondably, doesn't this mean there would need to be a Title 9a or Title 9, version 2? I mean, how can you allow some 6' 2", 200 pound male who decides he's a chick, play on a female team?


It would mean some interesting games, especially the close ones.


Posted by: EC at February 03, 2014 09:03 AM (GQ8sn)

236 Secondably, doesn't this mean there would need to be a Title 9a or Title 9, version 2? I mean, how can you allow some 6' 2", 200 pound male who decides he's a chick, play on a female team?


And you thought fucked up government policy only distorts commercial markets. Wait until you see amateur sports 10 years from now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 03, 2014 09:03 AM (8ZskC)

237

@ 189 - "Would one of the other credentialed conservatives here please tell this idiot that most illegals don't jump the fence?" (jwest)

 

True.  It's hard to "jump" something that isn't actually there.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 03, 2014 09:03 AM (YYJjz)

238 If/when the GOP fails to meet expectations in 2014 elections, the excuse will be either: A) They stopped pounding away at Obamacare or B) They offered nothing but criticism of Obamacare and people got tired of the subject. The real problem is C) GOP and conservatives in general want to impose their solutions on people by force of ranting instead of educating the electorate on basic economics, namely #1, in bold, italicized, red germanic font: For one man to get richer, it is in no way necessary for another to become poorer. The other side depends on your ignorance on this point.

Posted by: WTP at February 03, 2014 09:03 AM (F26eZ)

239 The Maine Supreme Judicial Court on Thursday guaranteed the right of a transgender child to use the school bathroom designated for the gender with which he or she identifies You can shake and you can dance but the last drop always ends up in the dumpster with your cock and balls.

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2014 09:04 AM (AZNLP)

240 In CA, a girl with a penis... We just passed into some space/time portal where nothing makes any sense any more.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 03, 2014 09:04 AM (0HooB)

241 If I decide to "self-identify" as a "girl with a penis," may I also "enter the Ladies Room without repercussions?" And while I'm in there, may I "drop the groundhog?"

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 09:04 AM (7ObY1)

242 And you thought fucked up government policy only distorts commercial markets. Wait until you see amateur sports 10 years from now. --- I can't wait until they start holding up the AAU basketball scene for payoffs.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 09:04 AM (/Crba)

243 Would one of the other credentialed conservatives here please tell this idiot that most illegals don't jump the fence? Jwest is right. They swim across the fucking river.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 03, 2014 09:04 AM (LIZx2)

244 Who is bitching about Bruno Mars? At least it wasn't some half dead English dudes or dude this time. American mothemuckers--can you speak it?

Posted by: tasker at February 03, 2014 09:05 AM (RJMhd)

245 There once was a girl with a penis... I'm too lazy to finish the limerick. Feel free to use "genus" as a rhyme though.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 09:05 AM (7ObY1)

246

234 -

 

Hey, I may not be 17, but lemme get my lipstick and finger nail polish! 

Posted by: Woody A. at February 03, 2014 09:05 AM (TOk1P)

247 ...but things that I think could happen if repubs have house and senate: GOP makes deal with obama that... That would be so like them to do such a stupid thing.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 03, 2014 09:05 AM (itCai)

248 202 I am still not sure what the reason is for the GOP wanting amnesty. Because eleventybillionth dimensional chess!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 03, 2014 09:05 AM (z+Xap)

249 I freely admit I have no idea what this comment means. It's in reference to a popular claim by black activists that the ships transporting slaves to America from Africa were so awful that millions of people died during the trip. The bodies were thrown overboard and sharks feasted on the corpses. Of course it's nonsense on roller-skates. The slavers had a vested interest in keeping the slaves alive and relatively healthy. It's also conveniently non-falsifiable, because the sharks don't keep records. The records that we do have from the ports indicate the claims are orders of magnitude off, but again, non-falsifiable. They're slavers! We can't trust their records!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 03, 2014 09:06 AM (IoTdl)

250

Hi there !!!

 

// border crossing tunnels

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 03, 2014 09:06 AM (Z9EFN)

251

@ 238 - "The real problem is
C) GOP and conservatives in general want to impose their solutions on people by force of ranting instead of educating the electorate on basic economics, namely #1, in bold, italicized, red germanic font: For one man to get richer, it is in no way necessary for another to become poorer. The other side depends on your ignorance on this point."

 

So essentially, your argument is that conservatives would lose because they didn't go all policy-wonk on LIVs, explaining to them things that 99% of them are too stupid to be able to understand anywise?

 

If you say so.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at February 03, 2014 09:06 AM (YYJjz)

252 >>There are two things people know: Obamacare is bad by every measure (getting more people covered, quality of coverage, customer service) and the system pre-Obamacare was better. People are already confused and are increasingly looking for a solution. I don't think just telling people at this point we are going back to the old system is enough. Many have been convinced thanks to years of liberals saying it that the old system was junk. Nothing wrong with offering some market based reforms to the old system like insurance across state lines and tort reform. Obama's been getting a lot of mileage out of saying the Republicans have no plan on anything. The Senate plan has zero chance of getting passed given the current makeup of the government but its a good idea to give an increasingly anxious public some hope that the other side has a plan.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2014 09:06 AM (g1DWB)

253 In CA, a girl with a penis will have to be allowed to use the girlÂ’s locker rooms and allowed on female sports teams, and vice versa. ----- In my neck of the woods a girl with a penis is known as a boy.

Posted by: RWC at February 03, 2014 09:06 AM (fWAjv)

254 Falcon this is snowman, The Groundhog has landed.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 03, 2014 09:07 AM (6bMeY)

255 I propose we just put an end to separate public restrooms for each gender, which means sex, you defilers of the English language. And I don't mean the ones with just one unit. I'm talking about the ones with several stalls. If we're going to be freaking idiots, we may as we'll go whole hog.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 03, 2014 09:07 AM (r+7wo)

256 BTW, about half of illegals are border jumpers and half are visa overstayers. The thing is that the visa overstayers are more often temporary or are waiting a short time before leaving. They are also far easier to track.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 09:07 AM (T0NGe)

257 Boy without a penis is called a moderate.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 03, 2014 09:07 AM (6bMeY)

258

Mattress Mack in Houston,  the owner of Gallery Furniture,  had a promo in  in which if you purchased $6000 or more of furniture delivered before  the  Super Bowl  kick off  and the Seahawks won,  you would receive your money back. 

 

He has  to repay approximately  7 million .    Since the mark up on furniture is so outrageous  that probably only comes out to  $29.98   out  of his pocket.

Posted by: polynikes at February 03, 2014 09:07 AM (m2CN7)

259 We only need Landsharks because the white man hunted the American Landcrab to extinction in an attempt to starve my people!

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at February 03, 2014 09:08 AM (AZNLP)

260 You forgot the really big checks, with lots of zeroes and commas.
These are politicians, after all - corrupt and venal is just the floor for their behavior. Posted by: Mikey NTH

I agree that it is money from big donors driving this train.  But, the question I have is which big donors?  And for what purpose?

Here's the thing.  Which businesses are clamoring for amnesty?  Which businesses claim they have no available labor?

I'm not so sure that it is big donors who really want amnesty for purpose of cheap labor.

I have a sneaking suspicion that it is big donors who consider themselves the GOP "brains" who believe that passing an amnesty will result in sudden huge Hispanic votes for the GOP. 

In other words, I'm not convinced that there are a lot of business interests who are pushing amnesty for business reasons.  If your business model relies on cheap illegal immigrant labor, the status quo for illegals is better for your bottom line than an amnesty will be.

I'm betting instead that this is rich people who think they are political gurus who (delusionally) are convinced that the GOP will win big with Hispanics if we just pass an amnesty.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 03, 2014 09:08 AM (sOx93)

261 There once was a girl with a penis... I'm too lazy to finish the limerick. Feel free to use "genus" as a rhyme though. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 01:05 PM (7ObY1) There once was a girl with a penis Who was married to President Genius

Posted by: RWC at February 03, 2014 09:08 AM (fWAjv)

262 If we're going to be freaking idiots, we may as we'll go whole hog.

Do we have to drop it first?

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 03, 2014 09:09 AM (RUvjp)

263 If we're going to be freaking idiots, we may as we'll go whole hog. - You mean we haven't yet? It gets worse?!!!!

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 03, 2014 09:09 AM (Hx5uv)

264 "dropping the groundhog" meme. *snaps fingers. So close!

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at February 03, 2014 09:09 AM (659DL)

265 If we're going to be freaking idiots, we may as we'll go whole hog.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 03, 2014 01:07 PM (r+7wo)


Hey, can you spare a square?

Posted by: The Size 14 Pumps In The Next Stall at February 03, 2014 09:09 AM (8ZskC)

266 American mothemuckers--can you speak it? Posted by: tasker at February 03, 2014 01:05 PM (RJMhd) What do you know, it's spelt Amurican

Posted by: MikeH at February 03, 2014 09:09 AM (DNTer)

267 In my neck of the woods a girl with a penis is known as a boy. One who gets atomic wedgies & stuffed in lockers a lot, but still a boy.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2014 09:10 AM (ndIek)

268 "My stance on shamnesty is pretty simple: Build the fucking fence already or STFU."

I would love, love, love, absolutely love and adore it if Ted Cruz would introduce a bill specifically named "The I Heard You, Build The Dang Fence Act", riffing off of McCain's campaign promise in those words, and dare McCain to vote against it.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 03, 2014 09:10 AM (gqT4g)

269 So jwest, are saying that I am lying about "fence crossers" coming over the border into Arizona on a nightly basis?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 03, 2014 09:10 AM (P6QsQ)

270 A girl with a penis came into the barber shop last week while I was in the waiting room. She asked my poor old Sicilian barber if he had any problem with trans-gendered persons. He said no. She got a high-n-tight cut and left. I asked my barber if he was afraid of refusing her because of those Seattle cake people getting in trouble. He said no, her money is green whether she has a penis or not.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 09:10 AM (7ObY1)

271 I had no idea who Bruno Mars was. When he finished I thought it was the best Super Bowl Show I had seen.

He didn't have much competition but he did well.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 03, 2014 09:10 AM (IVgIK)

272 258 Mattress Mack in Houston, the owner of Gallery Furniture, had a promo in in which if you purchased $6000 or more of furniture delivered before the Super Bowl kick off and the Seahawks won, you would receive your money back. He has to repay approximately 7 million . Since the mark up on furniture is so outrageous that probably only comes out to $29.98 out of his pocket. --- The LSU board I post at had something on this. They figured he was laying off a bunch of bets in Vegas to offset all those sales in order to minimize his risk. If you do it right, you make a shit-ton of sales and only end up paying juice on the money you borrowed.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 09:10 AM (/Crba)

273 Is this pud actually trying to argue the U.S.-Mexico border doesn't get more traffic than a GOP Media Consultant's mouth at the Gridiron Dinner?

Seriously?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 03, 2014 09:10 AM (Q9qpj)

274 Secondably, doesn't this mean there would need to be a Title 9a or Title 9, version 2? I mean, how can you allow some 6' 2", 200 pound male who decides he's a chick, play on a female team? Posted by: Mainah at February 03, 2014 01:01 PM (659DL) To me, Title 9 implies that women should be permitted full participation in men's teams. Just because my genetics made me short doesn't mean I can't have a basketball league for my types. In my neck of the woods a girl with a penis is known as a boy. Posted by: RWC at February 03, 2014 01:06 PM (fWAjv) You right-wingers and your love of science.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 09:10 AM (T0NGe)

275 In CA, a girl with a penis will have to be allowed to use the girlÂ’s locker rooms and allowed on female sports teams, and vice versa. - It'll help the underwear industry. We'll need types like panties with dick holes.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 03, 2014 09:10 AM (Hx5uv)

276 I always knew I didn't have the talent to play college basketball, but I was really freaking humbled when I played with/against some of he Xavier U. girls team. I wouldn't have made their team either.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2014 09:11 AM (ZshNr)

277 If we're going to be freaking idiots, we may as we'll go whole hog. Do we have to drop it first? Posted by: Waterhouse at February 03, 2014 01:09 PM (RUvjp) Only if it is of the ground type. Otherwise, dropping it is optional.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 03, 2014 09:11 AM (r+7wo)

278 Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 01:10 PM (7ObY1) Started reading that as one of polynikes jokes.

Posted by: RWC at February 03, 2014 09:12 AM (fWAjv)

279 Here's the thing. Which businesses are clamoring for amnesty? Which businesses claim they have no available labor? IIRC, it was a group of businesses who, last summer, laid off a lot of their workforce. There's a thing on teh Intarwebz about it, but I'm lazy today.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 03, 2014 09:12 AM (0HooB)

280 There once was a girl with a penis Who was married to President Genius And he said with a grin, as he wiped his chin, Nothing cums between us!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2014 09:12 AM (ndIek)

281 276 I always knew I didn't have the talent to play college basketball, but I was really freaking humbled when I played with/against some of he Xavier U. girls team. I wouldn't have made their team either. --- Play against a *good* girl's team and that is the case. Play against a really bad one, like one from the SWAC such as Grambling or Southern U, and you have to wonder how many of those girls played a lot of basketball before getting a scholarship.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 09:12 AM (/Crba)

282 And you thought fucked up government policy only distorts commercial markets. Wait until you see amateur sports 10 years from now. The Olympics have had to wrestle with this issue. I forget all the details, but basically they had to rely on the stratification of testosterone present in the two groups. It's actually pretty fascinating. You can't rely on genetics, because not everyone is XX or XY. Some people are XXY for example. There are also genetic disorders that cause a person who is XY to suppress their male hormones and present as female. So what they do for the Olympics is test your testosterone levels. If you show up in the male strata, you compete as a guy. If you show up in the female strata, you compete as female.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 03, 2014 09:13 AM (IoTdl)

283 It'll help the underwear industry. We'll need types like panties with dick holes.



Step 1:  cut a hole in the panty.



Anyhow, aren't there already panties with dick holes in them?  They're called tighty-whiteys.


Posted by: EC at February 03, 2014 09:13 AM (GQ8sn)

284

There once was a girl with a penis
Who was married to President Genius

Posted by: RWC at February 03, 2014 01:08 PM (fWAjv)

She got fucked in the ass
While he smoked some grass.
And they'll be followed by the wife of the Clenis.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 03, 2014 09:13 AM (fwARV)

285 Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 01:10 PM (7ObY1)


Started reading that as one of polynikes jokes.

Posted by: RWC at February 03, 2014 01:12 PM (fWAjv)


----


Ditto..... was disappointed at the lack of a punch line.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2014 09:13 AM (nELVU)

286 What is the deal with groundhogs? Have you ever seen any hogs flying around in the air? Are there secret colonies of air hogs somewhere that I'm not aware of? And how 'bout that airline food? What *is* the deal with that?

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld at February 03, 2014 09:13 AM (7ObY1)

287 And once again, team GOP looking like a bunch of monkeys fucking a football.

Posted by: flounder at February 03, 2014 09:14 AM (Kkt/i)

288 Ditto..... was disappointed at the lack of a punch line. Washington Nearsider finished it better than I would have!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 09:14 AM (7ObY1)

289 275 In CA, a girl with a penis will have to be allowed to use the girlÂ’s locker rooms and allowed on female sports teams, and vice versa. ================ So, East Germany rules. I thought they have tests for that now. -

Posted by: grammie winger at February 03, 2014 09:15 AM (P6QsQ)

290

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 03, 2014 01:08 PM (sOx93)

 

 

I never said business interests were cutting the checks, I don't even know if checks are there.  I just suspect checks because these are politicians and they are predictable. 

 

Who would be interested in doing this, again, is beyond my knowledge.  I'm merely guessing like everyone else is.  Well, not like everyone else because I'm not going into a rage-spaz at the thought of the inevitable betrayal by the GOP to the master brainiacs of the Democrats.*

 

*Padded RageTwitch floor mats at the Outrage Outlet!

*I have no idea that there is any betrayal or that the Democrats could muster half a mind, let alone a master brainiac.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 03, 2014 09:15 AM (hLRSq)

291 Podcast up

Posted by: RWC at February 03, 2014 09:15 AM (fWAjv)

292 Nood, but not improved.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 03, 2014 09:15 AM (8ZskC)

293 So jwest, are saying that I am lying about "fence crossers" coming over the border into Arizona on a nightly basis? Yes. Definitely. That's exactly what I'm saying. As you can tell from the other comments, written in English, I explicitly said that no illegals come into the U.S. through Arizona. I believe I said that about 12 times, so there can be no doubt. So, yes, you have it right. Now, you can do some research and come back with proof that at some point in history, at least one person illegally crossed the border into Arizona. Then I'll be so embarrassed. And you'll win. You're so smart.

Posted by: jwest at February 03, 2014 09:16 AM (u2a4R)

294 Before 1974 the girl with a penis would have done life in the nuthouse.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 03, 2014 09:16 AM (6bMeY)

295 Just do whatever jwest suggests.

Posted by: Bad Conservative Strategy at February 03, 2014 09:16 AM (Z9EFN)

296 And he said with a grin, as he wiped his chin, Nothing but Reggie cums between us!

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2014 09:16 AM (AZNLP)

297 And once again, team GOP looking like a bunch of monkeys fucking a football. - Except not as dignified.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 03, 2014 09:17 AM (Hx5uv)

298 Play against a really bad one, like one from the SWAC such as Grambling or Southern U, and you have to wonder how many of those girls played a lot of basketball before getting a scholarship. Yeah, there is no way I would have made the Carnegie Mellon men's team (they have a team?) but a bunch of out-of-shape people who played 6am basketball twice a week, mostly made of 40+ ers handled the womens' team quite well. At the time, I was 30, but I'm short, slow and never played any competitive basketball of any kind over the age of 10.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 09:17 AM (T0NGe)

299 Yeah, I used to shoot around with Assumption, Holy Cross girl players ( from the neighborhood) and was not all that impressed. Too damned slow. The XU girls were a different story, serious athletes, track stars in the off-season, etc. It was fun, but like I said, humbling. I was also on the same team/floor as two future NBA players while playing co-ed pickup games at XU. Tyrone Hill and Derek Strong.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 03, 2014 09:17 AM (ZshNr)

300 Are your ears burning Drew? Rush is talking about this now, and that he got the info from "a blogger" who remains nameless but he is quoting from RCP. I am pretending he is totally talking about you, and that Rush's staff totally reads this blog religiously.

Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2014 09:18 AM (BF+2f)

301 285 Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 03, 2014 01:10 PM (7ObY1) Started reading that as one of polynikes jokes. Posted by: RWC at February 03, 2014 01:12 PM (fWAjv) ---- Ditto..... was disappointed at the lack of a punch line. Posted by: fixerupper Read it twice looking for the punchline. Finally realized it was me reading it.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 03, 2014 09:19 AM (zsnlv)

302
So... a girl with a penis walks into a bar.   Bets the bartender $20.00 she can pee into a shotglass 10 feet a way and not spill a drop.

Bartender takes the bet.... and the girl whips it out and proceeds to pee all over the bar.... never hitting the shotglass.  Bartender laughs his head off.

Bartender collects the money, but notices the girl with a penis is grinning ear to ear.  "What are your grinning at??" asks the bartender??  "You lost $20".

"Yep"  she says.... "but I bet that table of drag queens over there $100 each I could pee all over your bar and you would laugh about it".

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2014 09:19 AM (nELVU)

303 >>As you can tell from the other comments, written in English, I explicitly said that no illegals come into the U.S. through Arizona. You're kidding, right?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2014 09:19 AM (g1DWB)

304 The LSU board I post at had something on this.

They figured he was laying off a bunch of bets in Vegas to offset all those sales in order to minimize his risk.

If you do it right, you make a shit-ton of sales and only end up paying juice on the money you borrowed.

Posted by: Brandon in Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 01:10 PM (/Crba)

 

You can insure almost anything  ( those  million dollar hole in one promotions are insured for a small premium )  but I don't know if the premium to insure a  basically 50/50 promo  would be worth it.    If he insured  a loss up to say , two million,  I figure that premimum would cost him at least 750,000.   That's just a guess.   So  he probably did  some other strategy as you suggested.

Posted by: polynikes at February 03, 2014 09:19 AM (m2CN7)

305 @251 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus Yeah, that's the only option. Do it condescendingly... Or we try this...GOP submit a bill to raise the minimum wage to $20/hr over the next 5-7 years. Think of all the software, mechanical, electronic, and systems engineers this would create.

Posted by: WTP at February 03, 2014 09:19 AM (RQDhf)

306 Jwest, huh? Okay.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 03, 2014 09:19 AM (P6QsQ)

307 There once was a girl with a penis
Who was married to President Genius


And he said with a grin, as he wiped off his chin,
Nothing cums between us!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2014 01:12 PM (ndIek)



Well played sir, but


Meter my friend, meter!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 03, 2014 09:20 AM (o3MSL)

308 I never said business interests were cutting the checks, I don't even know if checks are there. I just suspect checks because these are politicians and they are predictable.

Who would be interested in doing this, again, is beyond my knowledge. I'm merely guessing like everyone else is. Well, not like everyone else because I'm not going into a rage-spaz at the thought of the inevitable betrayal by the GOP to the master brainiacs of the Democrats.*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 03, 2014 01:15 PM (hLRSq)

Ahh - the old "outraged outrage".  I love some good snark.  No reason to be upset about anything.  no reason to care about anything.  No reason to have any principals or get upset.  In fact, why are we even here?  Why pay attention to the politics at all?  Why vote?  Why base a vote on anything?  Wouldn't want anyone to believe I was "outraged" about something - I'm too cool for that.  And that makes me so much more intelligent than anyone who cares or is outraged about anything.

I love the smell of hipster in the morning and early afternoon.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 03, 2014 09:20 AM (sOx93)

309 What I also don't get is what these businesses think they'll get with legalized illegals. If they're retail, they'll have to pay minimum wage anyway and the Dems and LIVs will make sure that goes up at some point. If they're construction or farmwork, again there's an advantage to them being illegal. They work under the table now.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 09:21 AM (T0NGe)

310 So what they do for the Olympics is test your testosterone levels. If you show up in the male strata, you compete as a guy. If you show up in the female strata, you compete as female.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 03, 2014 01:13 PM (IoTdl)

 

 

----------------------------------------------------

 

 

Okay.  Here's some science.  Women who do extreme physical training come very close to stop estrogen production.   If there's a percentage quotient of estrogen to testosterone, the testosterone in these women will hold a higher percentage.  What then?

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2014 09:21 AM (ZDqnR)

311 Evidence shows girls with penises are actually boys.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 03, 2014 09:21 AM (fwARV)

312

Am I gonna' have to issue the Call to Pound Dicks again ?

 

 

I don't want to ... but I'm just crazy enough to do it !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 03, 2014 09:21 AM (Z9EFN)

313 303 >>As you can tell from the other comments, written in English, I explicitly said that no illegals come into the U.S. through Arizona. You're kidding, right? Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2014 01:19 PM (g1DWB) There are no American soldiers in Baghdad, either!

Posted by: Baghdad Bob at February 03, 2014 09:23 AM (zoehZ)

314 I am pretending he is totally talking about you, and that Rush's staff totally reads this blog religiously. Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2014 01:18 PM (BF+2f) They do. But if I were Rush, I'd try to cite other blogs (and Ace has had to deal with this before) because of the ... well ... fcuk factor.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 09:25 AM (T0NGe)

315 12 That's an excellent summary. They don't want to lose so much as they want things to stay the same even if that means being out of power. Refresh yourselves on Boehner's career. The '96 wave was the worst thing that ever happened to him. He almost quit politics for good when he was replaced by J.C Watts after Newt resigned. He longs for the good old days of handing out lobbyist checks on the House floor. That's why he loves amnesty. That said. YOU DON'T WANT THIS BITCH IN OREGON. If you thought the Maine hags were bad... and you just got rid of Snowe. You can't even get rid of Alexander, Graham and McCain. There are a dozen other seats in play -- WV, SD, MT, AR, NC, AK, CO, MI, VA, LA, NH and IA. If the wave looks big enough, you might get a good candidate in MN against Franken.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 03, 2014 09:25 AM (Y92Nd)

316 Limbaugh referencing someone named "Amish Dude"

Posted by: forest at February 03, 2014 09:25 AM (stMuz)

317 316 Limbaugh referencing someone named "Amish Dude" Posted by: forest at February 03, 2014 01:25 PM (stMuz) That guy's an asshole.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 03, 2014 09:26 AM (T0NGe)

318 Actually, it doesn't really matter what I actually write, be it English or Sanskrit.

You may file it under "contrarian jackhole tossing chum," and pretty much get the gist, savvy?

Posted by: jwest, really smart dude at February 03, 2014 09:26 AM (Q9qpj)

319 317 316 Limbaugh referencing someone named "Amish Dude" Posted by: forest at February 03, 2014 01:25 PM (stMuz) That guy's an asshole. ================= Worse than an asshole. Rumor has it he's a lawyer.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 03, 2014 09:29 AM (P6QsQ)

320 Posted by: jwest, really smart dude at February 03, 2014 01:26 PM (Q9qpj) Don't sockpuppet actual commenters.

Posted by: jwest at February 03, 2014 09:30 AM (u2a4R)

321 I love the smell of hipster in the morning and early afternoon.

Posted by: Monkeytoe at February 03, 2014 01:20 PM (sOx93)

 

 

Ewww!  Why?

 

Just because I do not see the point of getting worked into a lather on a blog doesn't mean I do not have principles.  Typing "Weepy Boehner!" and "Bitch McConnel!" isn't my style.  I wish we had better, I'm glad we do not have worse.  I don't like Obama going off with his E.O.'s, but I prefer that to having the Democrats control all legislation.

 

So I'll keep making the jokes (good, bad, and ugly) and let everyone else have their rage displays.

 

 

BTW - describing me as a hipster really proves you do not know me.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Innuendoes for Both Men and Women at the Outrage Outlet! at February 03, 2014 09:30 AM (hLRSq)

322 165 When it comes to halftime shows, no Swedish Death Metal = no BlueStateRebel. IDK, I'd probably tune in for Slayer (lol). I was happy that the brief moment I saw in between fridge runs was "Give it Away Now" not the softer newer stuff.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at February 03, 2014 09:30 AM (FpybW)

323 If the wave looks big enough, you might get a good candidate in MN against Franken. --- It took Obama running in 2008 PLUS a crooked recount for that shitstain to beat Coleman last time. You'd think there would be a viable candidate willing to take him on.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 09:30 AM (/Crba)

324 A lawyer? Now that's intolerable.

Posted by: forest at February 03, 2014 09:31 AM (stMuz)

325 It took Obama running in 2008 PLUS a crooked recount for that shitstain to beat Coleman last time. You'd think there would be a viable candidate willing to take him on. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 03, 2014 01:30 PM (/Crba) Pawlenty wanted to be POTUS, and he doesn't even have the balls to take on a clown senator who cheated his way to a seat.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 03, 2014 09:34 AM (Y92Nd)

326

Okay you asked  for it.

 

A girl with a penis walks into a bar   and strikes up a  flirty  conversation with the bartender finally telling him that she has a penis.  

 

The bartender says, "  No big deal.  We get a lot  of characters in here ."

 

Relieved that the bartender wasn't angry,  she orders an appletini.

 

The bartender says,  "  Okay,  now  I know you are lying.   No one with a penis orders an  Appletini.   

Posted by: polynikes at February 03, 2014 09:34 AM (m2CN7)

327 Witnessed an accident here last year in S Texas.  3 beer drinking characters sideswiped a young lady's car and collapsed their front wheel strut.  Slid off the road and hit the curb.  all 3 got out and just walked away. Unfortunately local police arrived before they got too far.  Wife gave her name as a witness, I was writing a shopping list and didn't see them hit, I thought they just drove off the road. Was only looking down for a few seconds.   Never heard anything about the case afterwards. I've orten thought I should just put a video camera on the dash, driving around here. Not the first drive-off I've seen either.

Posted by: bill sometimes bill from canada at February 03, 2014 09:36 AM (Y6Ld9)

328 Yeah.  Sure.

Posted by: jwest, really smart dude at February 03, 2014 09:37 AM (Q9qpj)

329 Okay. Here's some science. Women who do extreme physical training come very close to stop estrogen production. If there's a percentage quotient of estrogen to testosterone, the testosterone in these women will hold a higher percentage. What then? It's not a percentage of estrogen to testosterone. It's purely testosterone in ng/dl. There's a clear stratification that happens when testing Olympians testosterone levels. I don't know the actual numbers, but for example say girls clump around 300 +/- 100. And guys clump around 700 +/- 100. (Again WAG numbers). That's how you are placed.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 03, 2014 09:40 AM (A0glY)

330 Hey, did everyone see Mitt Romney is now the preferred 2016 GOP candidate? Gallup said it, and so it must be true.

Posted by: MItt Romney at February 03, 2014 09:49 AM (7ynIk)

331 I think when estrogen levels drop, progesterone takes over. Those two hormones naturally balance one another. Testosterone is unrelated.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 03, 2014 09:49 AM (Y92Nd)

332 Would one of the other credentialed conservatives here please tell this idiot that most illegals don't jump the fence? By idiot--you mean THE GUY THAT HAS BEEN AN ACTUAL CONSULAR OFFICER? How many visas have you approved or refused? Want to get into the differences between H, L, and R? You're a deliberately obtuse jackass, jwest.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2014 10:16 AM (659DL)

333 I lurk until I read something fantastical about Oregon. Monica fundraised $500k?  Before revving up the Snoopy dance, check the source of that money. I'll save you some time: Monica's b'friend is politically active lumber billionaire Andrew Miller. That's not groundswell from the grassroots, that's one man's checkbook.

People in Portland & along the I-5 corridor vote Navy Blue. Their numbers overwhelm the rest of the state which is red. People being screwed by obamacare/Cover Oregon are mostly LIVs who've voted dem for generations. They will not vote Republican, not even for a pretty female doctor one, CAC, I love ya, but there is.no.freaking.way. that a Republican will take Merkley's seat.  He will cruise to reelection and so will Gov./Dr. Kitzhaber (his 4th term. Sigh.).

We can't catch a break even with our one Congressional Republican, Greg Walden. He's an establishment RINO high up in House leadership.  Yay.

Posted by: OreGroan at February 03, 2014 10:18 AM (hRP0p)

334 "...you mean THE GUY THAT HAS BEEN AN ACTUAL CONSULAR OFFICER?" Yeah. Consular Officer/TSA gate watcher/assistant bank manager - pretty much all just above minimum wage. Forgive me if I'm unimpressed.

Posted by: jwest at February 03, 2014 10:19 AM (u2a4R)

335 Forgive me if I'm unimpressed. Posted by: jwest at February 03, 2014 02:19 PM (u2a4R) Lay off the deep fryer, genius. The fumes are getting to you.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 03, 2014 10:23 AM (659DL)

336 Trust us from Oregon: No Republicans taking any seats here. Not gonna happen, not now, not ever. Even if there was the actual support on the ground, the vote by mail system will make sure it doesn't happen.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2014 10:39 AM (zfY+H)

337 Rush Limbaugh said the words "Sean Trende" & "AmishDude" today, as he mentioned this article.

Posted by: Baldy at February 03, 2014 10:47 AM (2bql3)

338 So Trende comes up with some super-villain theory that Republicans don't want to win too big, and that immigration reform is more important to them than taking back the Senate or the White House.  Drew then observes "if only they were this devious dealing with the Democrats" as if Trende's imaginary straw man were proven fact.

Right.

I guess they don't call it the "lunatic fringe" for nothing.

Posted by: Adjoran at February 03, 2014 11:53 AM (473jB)

339 Wait a minute.Establishment GOP types help Democrats by caving on defunding Obamacare ,the budget,the debt ceiling,and possibliy amnesty.Then they accuse conservatives of helping Democrats by threatening not to vote for them so they can continue to help Democrats.Okay!

Posted by: redware at February 03, 2014 12:36 PM (gc2+4)

340 Adjoran, what's your explanation for why the House Republicans now claim support for the DREAM Act is part of their principles?

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 03, 2014 12:40 PM (5xmd7)

341 "332 Would one of the other credentialed conservatives here please tell this idiot that most illegals don't jump the fence? " So what? Deporting 20 million people means interior enforcement. Beefing up the fence just means they have a harder time getting back. And even then, the main point of the fence will be to track pedestrians before they can escape motorized patrols, not act as some impenetrable forcefield.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 03, 2014 01:33 PM (5xmd7)

342 "The Republican leadership has embedded so many "poison pills" in to their plan vis-à-vis the Democrat's Senate plan, that nothing will pass this year. Additionally, the "don't trust Obama" meme works well with independents. Meanwhile, the Republicans now have a plan. " Instead of offering a conditional surrender in the hope it is rejected so you can keep fighting, why not just Keep Fighting? It's less annoying and no danger of being stuck when your surrender is accepted. Remember, the Democrats have no problem violating the law because it conflicts with their agenda. They can push to enact the GOP principles and then abandon them in a year, even if they're law.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 03, 2014 01:41 PM (5xmd7)

343 This is why Matt Bevin MUST defeat Mitch McConnell in the KY primary in May and also why I hope that JD Winteregg defeats Boehner in OH-8's primary. We must clean our own house before we can fight Dems.


Posted by: Aslan's Girl at February 03, 2014 04:42 PM (KL49F)

344 "Remember all of this the next time someone from Team GOP says conservatives are helping Democrats. If the GOP would stop doing dumb things, we'd be happy to fight the Democrats but we're not there yet."

ITA. Here's my analogy: the GOP's a broken car and we have to get to the car race  -- but a broken car cannot get us there. We must fix our own broken car before we can use it to defeat Dems.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at February 03, 2014 04:44 PM (KL49F)

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