April 05, 2014
— Open Blogger Welcome to the short and sweet edition of the Saturday car thread.
Thanks to the Morons and Moronettes who forward along the fine tips which make it possible.
First up this week, the UAW is still squawking about Chattanooga. The charge: Collusion between Gov. Bill Haslam, Sen. Bob Corker and VW to the tune of $300M in incentives if the plant did not unionize. A couple of thoughts here:
1. Such an offer might explain the differences of opinion which arose between Corker's office and VW with regard to discussions of potential plant expansion. Then again, it is not unusual for any state or locality to offer incentives to get, or to keep, a large jobs-creating company or industry. Aren't conditions a normal part of the incentive/negotiations process?
2. The argument that VW colluded with government officials against the UAW seems a little shaky given the preferential treatment that the union received from VW in their attempts to unionize the plant: access to employees and to the plant as well as support for unionization from the big European unions and, even, VW's own management.
3. I am not an attorney nor am I associated with a union, so I welcome the opinions of those who are and can shed light on the situation yet, as far as I can tell, nobody has alleged that the offer of incentives was communicated to the laborers, and it is the laborers who cast the votes. In fact, VW adamantly denied that there had been any discussions of plant or line expansions when Sen. Corker claimed there had been. Unless the laborers themselves were aware of and persuaded by a big corporate incentive to vote against their own best interests, I can't see how such an offer would be deemed as having influenced the vote.
4. Hey UAW and TN Dems, your desperation is unzipped. You've got it hanging out there for all to see. When so many in the nation are not just indifferent to you, but against you, you might have a problem, and PR is the least of it. The longer you cry and whine and point fingers at the big, bad Republicans the whinier and weaker you appear but, go ahead, spend every last dime you have fighting this fight. Empty your coffers now. Please. Money buys influence with the Dems and I'd love nothing so much as to see you rendered powerless re the 2014 and 2016 elections.
The true story of a classic car found hidden away in a Centre Hall, PA, garage. We're always hearing tales of someone who knew someone who knew someone who found a barely used, highly collectible car sitting in an old barn/garage somewhere, and a little old lady who had no idea of it's value. This is not that tale. And it seems that there's no shortage of skeptics eager to try and debunk the find.
What a beauty.
Thanks to all the other commenters who brought it to my attention.
Moronette Anna Puma sent along this neat little piece called 'Unconventional Heroes'. I can't imagine where the artist came up with this idea but the General Lee made me giggle.

This delightful video is courtesy of Peaches and is guaranteed to make you smile.
The beauty of the week:
The first time that I saw the 1929 Stutz Model M Lancefield Coupe, I thought that it must be the work of a high-end hotrod builder like Chip Foose or Troy Trepanier. It looked like the classiest Â’32 three window Ford in the world, but somewhat bigger. A chopped top, rows of louvers, no running boards, and a bad ass stance. In other words, all the elements of a traditional hotrod are there. The thing is, this ainÂ’t no hotrodded version of some common car. This is the way it rolled out in 1929. This is the blueprint for every early Ford V8 rod that someone has cobbled together in the last 75 years. Quite an amazing design feat to say the least.

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Posted by: Breitbart was here at April 05, 2014 09:28 AM (kFxpe)
Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:29 AM (podBk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 09:31 AM (I6YUj)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 05, 2014 09:32 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:34 AM (podBk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 09:35 AM (I6YUj)
They were never raced. Really, they aren't any different than an 80s Dodge 'Shelby'.
Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 01:34 PM (podBk)
The 80's Shelby Omnis and Chargers were faster than the Camaros, Firebirds and Mustangs of the day, FWIW.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 05, 2014 09:37 AM (yh0zB)
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Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:38 AM (podBk)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 05, 2014 09:38 AM (8ZskC)
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1615573
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 09:39 AM (I6YUj)
Had a short visit with the Toy this AM. Way too early to bring it out so I just walked around it and sat in it.
This year will bring a cosmetic resto on the Ramcharger, it's beginning to show some age finally.
If younger daughter ever gets a newer computer, then maybe I can put some pics up of my stuff when I buy hers. This 'puter is so old and lacking in features that it aint funny.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 05, 2014 09:40 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:41 AM (podBk)
Next you will be telling me why I don't need a firearm. Might put my eye out or some other kind of balderdash.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 09:42 AM (I6YUj)
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Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 05, 2014 09:46 AM (qyfb5)
Since I doubt I could pen and publish a best selling novel that quickly, but hey miracles can happen.
And April 13th is the Pomona Swap Meet.
http://www.pomonaswapmeet.com/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 09:47 AM (I6YUj)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 05, 2014 01:32 PM (8ZskC)
The home company in Germany is big on unions.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 05, 2014 09:47 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 09:47 AM (8FyP4)
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Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 05, 2014 09:51 AM (T2V/1)
True dat, Mero. Drove a couple GLHs and all you did was point them and pull the trigger.
Fun to abuse, though.
I remember driving the 1st edition 5.0 Mustangs, too. Mostly sideways. It took some work to get them to put the power down without excess wheel spin--do that and they were/are squirrel quick.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 05, 2014 09:51 AM (SAMxH)
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Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at April 05, 2014 10:00 AM (1Y+hH)
Is it me or does the VW bus chick look suspiciously like Megyn Kelly under those mirrored shades?
brb
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Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 01:58 PM
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It was the dog.
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Posted by: Meremortal at April 05, 2014 10:06 AM (1Y+hH)
"For the Morons:"
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What about 'Other'? (Or is this an 'Other-phobic' site?)
Posted by: gastorgrab at April 05, 2014 10:07 AM (FX38i)
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1190246.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 10:08 AM (I6YUj)
Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 10:09 AM (8FyP4)
Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 10:11 AM (8FyP4)
That is one of the behind the scene pictures of Operation Mustang. When Ford put a 1966 Mustang up on the Empire State building's observation deck on the 86th floor. They had to take the car apart to fit in elevators.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 10:16 AM (I6YUj)
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Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2014 10:18 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 10:19 AM (8FyP4)
Out and about here in the SF Bay Area the other day, I came up behind a car which had a couple of Obama bumper stickers on it. One of them bearing Biden's taunting quote from the 2012 campaign:
"Bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive!"
On a Honda.
It's a weird cocktail of bluster, cognitive dissonance and Fen's Law.
On the one hand, liberals point to the survival (for now) of Government Motors as being a proud Obamanomic success story. On the other hand, they personally _would not be seen dead_ in a GM car. So declasse!
Those are driven by flyover unpeople in Jesusland, not by them personally.
They won't even buy and drive the Chevy Volt. There are huge numbers of Priuses and Teslas around here, so they get the concept. They're just not going to plunk down their own money on the GM implementation of that concept. Fine with spending fifty billion of everyone else's money to rescue GM, though.
Liberals. Go figure.
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Cosmoline?
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Posted by: The Hickster at April 05, 2014 11:15 AM (TI3xG)
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Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 11:28 AM (LBrhR)
Then stay away from herpetological porn.
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 11:39 AM (I6YUj)
Back in the day, if you wanted a rust free ride, you went to a dealer and at the end of the back lot bought a clapped out piece of shit and ran it through the winter.
Left the good car in the garage. Now, the winter beater costs almost as much as the primary ride.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 05, 2014 11:40 AM (SAMxH)
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Posted by: recalls_R_us at April 05, 2014 12:13 PM (IQI2h)
Having all sorts of connective problems. I suspect it's Comcast. Yes, I know they are evil but it's all we've got here. It is fast- when it runs properly
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Posted by: The Hickster at April 05, 2014 12:38 PM (TI3xG)
"We," spoiled by their ability to start after sitting in the snow, abused the hell out of our cars. And our expectations just went up and up.
That babe in the Packard drove to the national Packard meet this year. Alone.
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Did you hook up?
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Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 12:59 PM (OQwEH)
Remember the AMX?
Yes, I remember all of the AMC muscle cars. Some of them had pretty good styling too.
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Posted by: cryptocon at April 05, 2014 01:17 PM (cgWjy)
Okay that might mean the pinger won't work for the longest time. But the CVR and FDR, while the plane is in flight, are powered by the aircraft's electrical system. That was one of the clues to the arcing in the TWA Flt 800 fuel tank explosion, very very brief interruptions in the power supply to the FDR from those arcs.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:19 PM (I6YUj)
Okay that might mean the pinger won't work for the longest time. But the CVR and FDR, while the plane is in flight, are powered by the aircraft's electrical system. That was one of the clues to the arcing in the TWA Flt 800 fuel tank explosion, very very brief interruptions in the power supply to the FDR from those arcs.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:19 PM (I6YUj)
Okay that might mean the pinger won't work for the longest time. But the CVR and FDR, while the plane is in flight, are powered by the aircraft's electrical system. That was one of the clues to the arcing in the TWA Flt 800 fuel tank explosion, very very brief interruptions in the power supply to the FDR from those arcs.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:19 PM (I6YUj)
Okay that might mean the pinger won't work for the longest time. But the CVR and FDR, while the plane is in flight, are powered by the aircraft's electrical system. That was one of the clues to the arcing in the TWA Flt 800 fuel tank explosion, very very brief interruptions in the power supply to the FDR from those arcs.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:19 PM (I6YUj)
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Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 05, 2014 01:37 PM (yh0zB)
Yeah man, but they weren't faster than my GN
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There is one around the SF Bay Area which has been retromodded to resemble the WWII German Wehrmacht staff car which was the genesis of that design. Historical re-enactors.
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