April 09, 2014

The Obama Revenue Service: Multiple Investigations Into IRS Workers' Open Cheerleading for Obama
— Ace

O.R.S.

Even as the IRS faces growing heat over Lois G. Lerner and the tea party targeting scandal, a government watchdog said Wednesday itÂ’s pursuing cases against three other tax agency employees and offices suspected of illegal political activity in support of President Obama and fellow Democrats.

In one case the Office of Special Counsel, which investigates federal employees who conduct politics on government time, said it was “commonplace” in a Dallas IRS office for employees to have pro-Obama screensavers on their computers, and to have campaign-style buttons and stickers at their office.

In another case, a worker at the tax agency’s customer help line urged taxpayers “to re-elect President Obama in 2012 by repeatedly reciting a chant based on the spelling of his last name,” the Office of Special Counsel said in a statement.
OSC said it is seeking “significant disciplinary action” against that employee.
Another IRS employee in Kentucky has agreed to serve a 14-day suspension for blasting Republicans in a conversation with a taxpayer.

“They’re going to take women back 40 years,” the IRS employee said in a conversation that was recorded. The employee also said that “if you vote for a Republican, the rich are going to get richer and the poor are going to get poorer.”
That employee went on to tell the taxpayer she knew she wasnÂ’t supposed to be voicing her political opinions, and asked the taxpayer not to say anything.

Lois Lerner's lawyer commented, for some reason, questioning the timing of these revelations, calling it "odd."

And meanwhile the House Government Oversight Committee voted, on party lines, 23-14, to refer Ms. Lerner for criminal prosecution, for all the good that does.

Now Eric Holder gets to decide if he wants to prosecute one of Obama's minions for harassing Obama's critics. Gee, I wonder what he will decide.

Rich Lowry noted the obvious, that giving Lerner immunity to secure her testimony would be a double-edge sword. On one hand, you get her testimony. On the other hand, you don't get to prosecute her.

This is particularly a problem when you consider that Lerner's move, after securing immunity, might be to (possibly falsely) claim all responsibility and refuse to provide honest testimony about other actors in the 501(c)3 scandal.

Now, I know, hypothetically, that one could then prosecute such a hypothetical witness for perjury and strip him of the prior immunity. But then that all would just wind up referring the matter to... Eric J. Holder.

What we need is a true independent prosecutor, someone who could, if he found sufficient evidence, prosecute Lerner or anyone else who provably harassed citizens for political purposes.

And of course that's what Obama will steadfastly refuse to do.

Historically, these things have been forced on the Executive by a media which kept making the appearance of a cover-up a nagging issue for the Executive, presenting him with two bad options: Continue taking the PR hit of appearing to be protecting a misbehaving partisan employee, or roll the dice on an independent prosecutor, who might find no prosecutable crime.

But of course we're not in that world anymore. The media won't even suggest that perhaps Eric J. Holder and Barack Obama are not the most disinterested persons available to investigate their partisans in the bureaucracy... or themselves.

Posted by: Ace at 09:32 AM | Comments (260)
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1 Not a smidgen.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 09, 2014 09:34 AM (74gkr)

2 Word.

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at April 09, 2014 09:35 AM (m9qVG)

3 WTF? And my wife was afraid to take a pen I got to work in her portfolio because it said "Tea Party Express" on it. Listen, I love me some free speech, but when you work for government they are you employer, and should be able to treat you as such.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 09, 2014 09:36 AM (HDwDg)

4 Special prosecutor? You don't wanna go there, buddy!

Posted by: Virginia Socon at April 09, 2014 09:37 AM (+/C3g)

5 What? Me worry?

Posted by: Barrack E. Newman at April 09, 2014 09:37 AM (VzAzL)

6 It's a real pity the US military doesn't get to engage in the same partisn wrangling.... It's looking more and more like it's gonna take a divorce or civil war.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 09:37 AM (TE35l)

7 Yet another reason why the IRS should be abolished. The citizenry should not fear the government.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 09, 2014 09:38 AM (32Ze2)

8 Another IRS employee in Kentucky has agreed to serve a 14-day suspension Ooooh. That's worse than a strongly worded letter.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 09, 2014 09:38 AM (7ObY1)

9 We've got this!

Posted by: Dept. of Justice at April 09, 2014 09:38 AM (l3vZN)

10 The media won't even suggest that perhaps Eric J. Holder and Barack Obama are not the most disinterested persons available to investigate their partisans in the bureaucracy... or themselves. Burn. It. Must.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2014 09:38 AM (NKBxV)

11 Eric Jackhole Holder, not Eric J. Holder.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 09, 2014 09:38 AM (HsTG8)

12 We live in a banana republic.  Watch out for those spiders.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 09, 2014 09:38 AM (zllbf)

13 What we need is a true independent prosecutor, someone who could, if he found sufficient evidence, prosecute Lerner or anyone else who provably harassed citizens for political purposes. I'll do it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 09, 2014 09:38 AM (0HooB)

14 Screen savers.  We never thought of that one.

Posted by: Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda at April 09, 2014 09:39 AM (ZKzrr)

15 Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL IRS.

Posted by: Emperor Obama-tine at April 09, 2014 09:39 AM (ZPrif)

16 The next GOP candidate needs to run against the MFM and the IRS.  No quarter with either.  Burn them both to the ground.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 09:39 AM (zF6Iw)

17 Think about it. This regime is at war with (probably) a majority of this country's citizens. This is scary stuff.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 09, 2014 09:39 AM (32Ze2)

18 4 Special prosecutor? You don't wanna go there, buddy! Posted by: Virginia Socon at April 09, 2014 01:37 PM (+/C3g) I was out of the loop yesterday and didn't see that clip until today. OMFG! Goehmert should have leaped over the desk and gone Ninja on Holder. I could not believe my ears!

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 09:39 AM (bCEmE)

19 In one case the Office of Special Counsel, which investigates federal employees who conduct politics on government time, said it was “commonplace” in a Dallas IRS office for employees to have pro-Obama screensavers on their computers, and to have campaign-style buttons and stickers at their office.


Now this one I have a hard time being   concerned about.   It's one thing if the employees were handing out those buttons and stickers to    the general public,  or even to fellow employees.   I would consider that to be political activity.   But if they were showing THEIR OWN political leanings, and weren't trying to proselytize to others?   Then I don't have a problem with it.  It tells me who the stupid people are in the office and whose opinions I can safely disregard.


The other two, though, I have a problem with.   Especially the creepy-ass   chant lady.  WTF?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 09:39 AM (4df7R)

20

or roll the dice on an independent prosecutor, who might find no prosecutable crime.

 

Never.  A special prosecutor who fails to find a crime will fear failure and will always find a crime.

Posted by: Scooter Libby at April 09, 2014 09:39 AM (JtwS4)

21 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 09, 2014 09:39 AM (PYAXX)

22 7 Truck Monkey, The IRS aned National Park Service are merey the most vocal of the Civil Service.... Fuck NIST probably wants "Metric for Ogabe"

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 09:39 AM (TE35l)

23

The worst part is they are all protected by union interference.

 

Even if we were to elect a responsible President and Congress that had a spine, we couldn't do a housecleaning to flush the turds out of the various agencies.

 

These folks are protected and inviolate.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at April 09, 2014 09:39 AM (LJpVo)

24 I'm certain our system is just and Lerner will be dealt with strongly by the 'DOJ.' aren't you guys silly for being so cynical? Ace, did you see arsin ettes link about Cantor and soros?

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2014 09:40 AM (nqBYe)

25 You want a miracle? I give you the I. R. S.

Posted by: Hans Holder at April 09, 2014 09:40 AM (ZPrif)

26 The bureaucracy and the Democrat Party are one and the same.  The only solution is to reduce that bureaucracy to the bare, empty bones.

Posted by: --- at April 09, 2014 09:40 AM (MMC8r)

27

I have said it before, but will say it again.   Every   one of us, and everyone we know, needs to write a real, paper letter to our senators and representatives about this.  They     generally don't read them, but if a stack of letters about the threat to the country the IRS is, they will be forced to take some action.

 

The IRS     has to be shut down.  Replace it with a consumption tax.   This organization has the ability to look at    your bank statements, investment accounts, real property - and to close those acccounts without a warrant.  Not to mention your medical records, now.   Given that we know for a fact that the     white house coordinated with the IRS tax exempt commissioner, and    we also know for a fact that the IRS leaked information to democrat groups, and we know for a   fact that they targeted conservative organizations, we cannot allow the IRS to continue in its present form.    They are a partisan organization that has    unprecedented access to their victims' personal information and account access.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 09, 2014 09:40 AM (yIZJ3)

28 Eric Jackhole Holder, not Eric J. Holder. Eric "Cock" Holder, as his friends know him.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 09, 2014 09:40 AM (0HooB)

29 There have been revolutions over things far less serious than this.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 09, 2014 09:40 AM (32Ze2)

30 The irony. Lois Lerner talked about working for ObamaÂ’s group Organizing for Action while she had official oversight over it OFA is registered as a 501(c)(4) nonprofit organization. OFA did not immediately return a request for comment. daily caller

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 09, 2014 09:40 AM (IXrOn)

31 Another IRS employee in Kentucky has agreed to serve a 14-day suspension

Does it come out of their sick or vacation days? Because otherwise that's pretty much a reward.

Posted by: HR at April 09, 2014 09:40 AM (ZKzrr)

32 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 01:39 PM (4df7R) I disagree. Openly showing your support like that shows that you cannot do your job without bias. Clear and simple.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 09, 2014 09:41 AM (HDwDg)

33 What the fuck?

Posted by: Scooter Libby at April 09, 2014 09:41 AM (ZPrif)

34 Meanwhile, obama and his big ugly wife are in Texas right now to politicize Ft. Hood in the form of a fake media memorial. I Guaran-damn-tee that's not the only reason obama's in Texas. There's probably a fund raising party there, or something.

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at April 09, 2014 09:41 AM (m9qVG)

35 Was this a round about way to get Lerner out of contempt charges?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 09, 2014 09:41 AM (IXrOn)

36 19 MWR, Heh....yeah an out and proud pro Ogabe Federale will use their commissioned powers with equanimity and sobriety MWR...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 09:42 AM (TE35l)

37 4 Screen savers. We never thought of that one. Posted by: Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda at April 09, 2014 01:39 PM (ZKzrr) A bouncing O-ball. The screen background consists of Barky and one of your choice of his paramours - Rahm Emmanuel, Kal Penn or Reggie Love - in a compromising position. "NSFW" does not apply.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 09, 2014 09:42 AM (HsTG8)

38 Gregory Korte ✔ @gregorykorte Lois Lerner spoke of taking a job with Obama's Organizing for Action while having oversight role over it, according to DOJ referral letter.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 09, 2014 09:42 AM (ZPrif)

39 I Guaran-damn-tee that's not the only reason obama's in Texas. There's probably a fund raising party there, or something. There is. Fundraiser in Houston at 5:00.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2014 09:43 AM (NKBxV)

40 All IRS employees should be sent to the W. Virginia mountains to collect back taxes.

That should thin them out a bit.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 09:43 AM (x3YFz)

41 I completely disagree on the need for an independent prosecutor. We do not need an unaccountable 4th branch of government (or 5th if we assume the executive agencies are basically already a 4th - but I digress). There is one executive, it is the Presidency. Congress has legitimate Constitutional means to try to force the President (and the executive branch) to prosecute if they decline. There are political remedies available as well. There in fact can never be a truly independent prosecutor because the Constitution does not allow it.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 09:43 AM (gmeXX)

42 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 09, 2014 09:43 AM (DrWcr)

43 Watch me do my Gordon Liddy act and hold a burning match to the palm of my hand.

Posted by: Lois Lerner at April 09, 2014 09:43 AM (l3vZN)

44
Why of course they did Darling.

Have I said similar things about the obamacult before?

Why of course I have.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2014 09:43 AM (hUf/y)

45 Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 09, 2014 01:39 PM (32Ze2) I actually don't think this is entirely the administration's work. Big government attracts big government supporters. The IRS exists to grown it's own power (or so it thinks.) Obama may be the enabler, but he's not the sole cause.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 09, 2014 09:43 AM (HDwDg)

46 There is. Fundraiser in Houston at 5:00. Sickening.

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at April 09, 2014 09:43 AM (m9qVG)

47 As a side note, you'd be surprised at how many people will take cash nowdays.

Wonder why that is?

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 09:43 AM (x3YFz)

48 So Lerner was negotiating salary and benefits with OFA while she was in charge of oversight -- and while fucking over conservatives wherever she could.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 09, 2014 09:44 AM (ZPrif)

49 “They’re going to take women back 40 years,” the IRS employee said in a conversation that was recorded. The employee also said that “if you vote for a Republican, the rich are going to get richer and the poor are going to get poorer.”
That employee went on to tell the taxpayer she knew she wasnÂ’t supposed to be voicing her political opinions, and asked the taxpayer not to say anything.

You know, think about women 40 years ago. You think Republicans really want women to be drugged out hippies who have slept with every warm body in the commune? But hey, there's legal abortion (in 1974) and Planned Parenthood for the inevitable "accidents" that occur. If anything, that's what Dems think of women today (hiya there, Fluke!). If you want to tar Republicans for wanting to take women back, at least be accurate. We want the 1950s, when no woman worked, women were barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen fixing us a sammich. Ammiright?

/sarc

Posted by: Virginia Socon at April 09, 2014 09:44 AM (+/C3g)

50 CNBC has a special on around tax time - "The American Tax Cheat" or something like that which takes a good look at the IRS and all of their powers.

Scary as hell. And I was paranoid about the IRS targeting conservatives back in 2011.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 09, 2014 09:44 AM (AC0lD)

51 I concur with Ace's analysis. The irksome thing is that at least someone on the committee's Republican staff has to have cranked the handle on the combinatoric machine, too.
Resigned to impotence, or... ?

Posted by: Euthyphro T Jones at April 09, 2014 09:44 AM (1/4XQ)

52 Fuck the IRS

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, he guy that will push thst button at April 09, 2014 09:44 AM (R8hU8)

53 ACE Did you see this : Republican Cantor to Headline Anti-Tea Party Conference Sponsored by George Soros & Unions what? thegatewaypundit wth Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 09, 2014 01:07 PM (IXrOn)

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2014 09:44 AM (nqBYe)

54 This level of established institutionalized corruption doesn't win honestly at the ballot box. Obama stole the 2012 election.

This is Civil War.

Posted by: Something at April 09, 2014 09:45 AM (pQJEV)

55 There in fact can never be a truly independent prosecutor because the Constitution does not allow it. The Constitution doesn't allow for 90% of the alphabet agencies either.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2014 09:45 AM (NKBxV)

56 So Lerner was negotiating salary and benefits with OFA while she was in charge of oversight -- and while fucking over conservatives wherever she could. Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 09, 2014 01:44 PM (ZPrif) ----- .... and..... do you have a point????

Posted by: THE M.F.M> at April 09, 2014 09:45 AM (nELVU)

57 I question the timing.

Posted by: Lois Lerner's lawyer at April 09, 2014 09:45 AM (8MjqI)

58 that

Posted by: Velvet Ambition, the guy that will push that button at April 09, 2014 09:45 AM (R8hU8)

59
Openly showing your support like that shows that you cannot do your job without bias. Clear and simple.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 09, 2014 01:41 PM (HDwDg)



What about bumper stickers?  If I had a "Don't Tread on Me" bumper sticker on my car, would that count as bias   that would require me to be censured, since I work for    State government?     I see   political stickers in the parking lot where I work all the time.  I see people with Obama and Pelosi pictures in their offices.      My co-worker down the hall had an anti-Sarah Palin comic strip on his office door for the longest time.  


I recognize all of these people as    nutjobs.   But I don't think they're taking part in political activity on the job.   I think they're just tin-eared, insensitive asshats.


There's a line between    self-expression and       political activity.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 09:46 AM (4df7R)

60 We want the 1950s, when no woman worked, women were barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen fixing us a sammich. Ammiright?

I can safely assure them that no Republican man has ever wanted me pregnant and fixing him a sammich. 

Dammit all to hell anyway.

Posted by: HR at April 09, 2014 09:46 AM (ZKzrr)

61 The Constitution doesn't allow for 90% of the alphabet agencies either. ---- I agree. Congress has legitimate means at its disposal. What it lacks is the political desire.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 09:46 AM (gmeXX)

62 Posted by: willow at April 09, 2014 01:44 PM (nqBYe)


The Democrats have been infiltrating the GOP for years now.

No tinfoil hat required.

Posted by: Something at April 09, 2014 09:46 AM (pQJEV)

63 "anti-tea party conference"

heh.  They're skared.  And not very smart.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 09:47 AM (x3YFz)

64 But...BUT... Witch Hunt!!!111!!!11


and shit.


 

Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2014 09:47 AM (NpXoL)

65 There's a line between self-expression and political activity. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 01:46 PM (4df7R) Indeed, but when you work for the IRS that line is vanishingly thin.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 09, 2014 09:47 AM (PYAXX)

66 It's not only Lerner. The IRS employees went along with the whole deal. as we also saw with parks and recreation along with shutting down monuments for political purpose. we have some real issues everywhere.

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2014 09:48 AM (nqBYe)

67 @62 Two examples spring immediately to mind: Norm Coleman and Didi Scozzafava.

Posted by: Euthyphro T Jones at April 09, 2014 09:48 AM (1/4XQ)

68 59 MWR, The difference is Republicans try to be ethical civil servants and donks think it's a game of limbo...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 09:48 AM (TE35l)

69 You only grant immunity if she names names.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 09:48 AM (gmeXX)

70 We want the 1950s, when no woman worked, women were barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen fixing us a sammich. Ammiright?

_____



nope.  Might want to stop watching Mad Men.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 09:48 AM (x3YFz)

71 You only grant immunity if she names names. Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 01:48 PM (gmeXX) Yep. Under-oath disposition *first*, then immunity.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 09, 2014 09:49 AM (PYAXX)

72 This is Civil War. Posted by: Something at April 09, 2014 01:45 PM (pQJEV) It's coming. The center cannot hold.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 09, 2014 09:49 AM (7ObY1)

73 Yeah, we give to the Tea Party a few times, and Mitt and get an audit for our troubles. Even the lawyer we had to hire can't figure it out - it's not like it's a young guy trying to prove something. There's nothing there - it's almost - almost like they're trying to just harass us.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 09, 2014 09:49 AM (pgQxn)

74 OT/

That 2048 Game posted the other night in the Overnight Open Thread is freakin' evil. I can't stop playing and its jeopardizing my employment.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 09, 2014 09:49 AM (UypUQ)

75 Republicans are bunglers. They bungle everything.

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at April 09, 2014 09:49 AM (m9qVG)

76 66 Willow, Look it's in DoD too, the Garrison Commander was openly lobbying for Obama in uniform back in 2008. She of course was 100% indestructible.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 09:49 AM (TE35l)

77 “if you vote for a Republican, the rich are going to get richer and the poor are going to get poorer.” I did. And it happened!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 09, 2014 09:50 AM (1hM1d)

78 No what else is a laugh-riot, knee-slapper to dem/lib/prog/leftist/freaks??



Voter fraud.
 

Posted by: dananjcon at April 09, 2014 09:50 AM (NpXoL)

79 I like that the IRS targets conservatives.  I want my Government to crush its enemies like cockroaches.  That's why I voted for Obama seventeen times.  I'm an intellectual.

Posted by: Hack Horgan at April 09, 2014 09:51 AM (yhJhK)

80 Indeed, but when you work for the IRS that line is vanishingly thin.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 09, 2014 01:47 PM (PYAXX)



I know.    But it still exists.   I don't like the idea of criminally prosecuting someone for something that amounts to free speech, IMO.  If they get overly enthusiastic about it and start braying about how much they love Obammy and want to suck his big chocolate cock, then that's a matter for internal HR to handle.  I don't see it as criminal activity.    And I know damn well that if I started saying it was okay to treat such speech as    criminal activity, then the first time I    happen to mention something positive about Ted Cruz around the office my ass is getting    hauled off to jail.



Again, I don't know the specifics of the   Dallas    IRS   office    incident.   But if it's just some employees hanging up their "I LOVE OBAMA!" regalia in their cubicles, then    I'm not sold on it being a crime.   Just deeply, deeply stupid and inconsiderate.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 09:51 AM (4df7R)

81 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 01:46 PM (4df7R) That line ends at the doorway IMHO. You're car remains in the parking lot and so I'm am 100% ok with it being used to express whatever you want. But INSIDE the building you have a culture and that culture is defined by what is displayed and what is allowed to be displayed. The line must be bright, otherwise we're wasting our time. (And while I understand that we must fear government restrictions on speech, when you work for the government that calculus changes significantly. If you cannot leave your boosterism at the door, you're doing it wrong.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 09, 2014 09:51 AM (HDwDg)

82 Let's have Al Sharpton wear a wire.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 09, 2014 09:51 AM (gvWL9)

83 As a side note, you'd be surprised at how many people will take cash nowdays. For now, citizen.

Posted by: The IRS at April 09, 2014 09:51 AM (8ZskC)

84 You only grant immunity if she names names. Hell no. Prosecute & bury. I'd expect it to be so rampant you wouldn't have to dig deep to find others. Besides, you grant immunity to small fry to get the big fish. Not to the big fish to get small fry.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2014 09:51 AM (NKBxV)

85 My former neighbors, an Amish farm family, had 13 children when I moved. Mrs. B, a very charming, but slight wisp of a  woman, was barefoot and pregnant except in the Minnesota winter, all the time I knew her.
She made all her own clothes.
She could even make ice cream from the milk of their own cows, after sammiches.

Posted by: Euthyphro T Jones at April 09, 2014 09:52 AM (1/4XQ)

86 In another case, a worker at the tax agency’s customer help line urged taxpayers “to re-elect President Obama in 2012 by repeatedly reciting a chant based on the spelling of his last name,” I'm really curious as to what this chant might be. "O-B-A-M-A How many drones did you launch today? O-B-A-M-A Socialism is the American Way!"

Posted by: zombie at April 09, 2014 09:52 AM (mizYg)

87 Hell no. Prosecute & bury. ---- Ok, who's going to do the prosecution?

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 09:52 AM (gmeXX)

88 The difference is Republicans try to be ethical civil servants and donks think it's a game of limbo...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 01:48 PM (TE35l)



I know, but its a double-edged sword.   And it's a sword I don't want the Demonrats getting their hands on, because they will wield it in unethical ways.   It's in their nature.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 09:52 AM (4df7R)

89

Third world shit.

That Holder is a piece of work...not responsible for anything, and brazenly open about telling the Congress to fuck off.

But first tonight, a Republican congressman was caught kissing a woman!


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at April 09, 2014 09:52 AM (xggaJ)

90 But of course we're not in that world anymore. The media won't even suggest that perhaps Eric J. Holder and Barack Obama are not the most disinterested persons available to investigate their partisans in the bureaucracy... or themselves. *** Sharyl Attkisson can't do it all by herself.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 09, 2014 09:52 AM (DmNpO)

91 Wait, Cantor is going to speak at a Soro event? Is this some sort of Jewish fundraiser? They are both Jewish.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 09, 2014 09:52 AM (0FSuD)

92 sven, eh, it really is just too much at times to acknowledge this was the country this is the country now. and how shtupid i have been for so long.

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2014 09:53 AM (nqBYe)

93 All socialism leads to communism.

All Socialist are ultimately Communists.

By their tactics you will know them.

This is Civil War.

Posted by: Something at April 09, 2014 09:53 AM (pQJEV)

94 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 01:51 PM (4df7R) I never argued for criminal prosecution. I'd simply make it a no warning fire-able event. You're right, it *should* be a problem for IRS HR. Problem is they can't keep their house clean.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 09, 2014 09:53 AM (HDwDg)

95 As long as the IRS didn't target Teh Gheys...

Posted by: Damiano at April 09, 2014 09:53 AM (j0wOO)

96 I know, but its a double-edged sword. And it's a sword I don't want the Demonrats getting their hands on, because they will wield it in unethical ways. It's in their nature. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 01:52 PM (4df7R) Will wield?! We're there....

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 09:54 AM (bCEmE)

97 81 TSRBike, Conservatives can get article 88'd for ending clapping 1st so to speak.... Val Plame Sooper Sekrit agent 69 got to play "not my Prezzy" w/ Chimpy.... "What Nation?"

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 09:54 AM (TE35l)

98

This level of established institutionalized corruption doesn't win honestly at the ballot box. Obama stole the 2012 election.


This is Civil War.

Posted by: Something at April 09, 2014 01:45 PM (pQJEV)

 

No, it isn't.  What it is is a relentless grinding down.  We have no voice, no leader and no cause.  "Fuck the IRS" only works with people who pay taxes (i.e., not the FSA) and, it seems, only with conservatives.  The GOPe doesn't give a shit.

 

Who will organize a massive, country-wide tax strike?  Who would call for it?  And further, who would participate, seeing how the government is treating anyone who dares resist it (see the BLM in Nevada)?

 

They know we won't shoot first.  And if someone on our side did shoot, they would be instantly demonized, discredited and dismissed as a lone nut.  We've been ground down for so long that there is no will to resist.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 09:55 AM (zF6Iw)

99 @93 "There's no such thing a s a liberal. A liberal is a communist with a college education,thinking negro thoughts." From the film, "The Rum Diary" (2011).

Posted by: Euthyphro T Jones at April 09, 2014 09:55 AM (1/4XQ)

100 So...btw... what are the R's gonna run on in 2014, 2016?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2014 09:55 AM (m9qVG)

101 ♫The hills are aliiiiiive With the sound of the GOP not dyyyyying on them. ♪

Posted by: How Do You Solve A Problem Like Mitch McConnell at April 09, 2014 09:55 AM (8ZskC)

102 The only way to ever get rid of these types of behaviors is to start shrinking, or better, eliminating these agencies. Congress has a lot to say about it, but ultimately it is a political issue. You just need a party or individual who can exploit it.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 09:55 AM (gmeXX)

103 I never argued for criminal prosecution.

I'd simply make it a no warning fire-able event.

You're right, it *should* be a problem for IRS HR.

Problem is they can't keep their house clean.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 09, 2014 01:53 PM (HDwDg)



Agreed.   But the article around which this post is built is about Special Prosecutors building cases against these three different IRS situations, INCLUDING the Dallas IRS office.   That sounds like criminal activity to me.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 09:55 AM (4df7R)

104 The IRS should be investigated the way they investigate everyone else: with the presumption of guilt.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 09, 2014 09:56 AM (0HooB)

105 This is not the hill to die on.

Trust us on this.

Posted by: Grand Ole Pile at April 09, 2014 09:56 AM (pQJEV)

106 Party line vote, exactly as I predicted. The House vote will break similarly along party lines (with maybe one or two leakers for those in tight races), but it will pass, and precisely nothing will come of it. Next prediction? Presidential pardon, and she won't even have to get a sister to donate a million bucks to the Obama Presidential Library first. Holder will get one, too. The only thing we have going for us is that Presidents cannot pardon themselves. We might get to see the perp-walk, if we are lucky...

Posted by: Drumwaster at April 09, 2014 09:56 AM (K6BSx)

107 This is Civil War. No, no. These are decent people. We have nothing to fear. Now the...the kids...oh God, the kids... *sniff*

Posted by: John Boehner at April 09, 2014 09:56 AM (gvWL9)

108 What about bumper stickers? If I had a "Don't Tread on Me" bumper sticker on my car, would that count as bias that would require me to be censured, since I work for State government?

Posted by: MWR,

Your car is your property. The equipment in the IRS offices is the property of the Federal government.

Not a good comparison.

Allowing campaigning in a work place only encourages partisan bias. In a government work place, it guarantees it. Granted Fed employee unions are a bigger problem and the campaigning thing is probably last on the list of them, it's still a bad phenomena.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 09, 2014 09:56 AM (HRlKD)

109 92 Willow, I'm getting my passport and one for wife and boy. If/when we ever win power again the civil service is going to negate the will of the people. I've seen this movie before in the original russian.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 09:57 AM (TE35l)

110 What we NEED is a massive rollback of all federal agencies, and the outright elimination of at least half of them, if not more.   And let's start with MY OWN agency, Education.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 09:57 AM (4df7R)

111 Let's not neglect this opportunity to mention what my satisfaction awaits. The prosecution of the entire vast Democrat edifice under the RICO statutes.
Squeeze enough little fish to finger the big fish. Contributions-union contracts-kickbacks-"other" blandishment.

Posted by: Euthyphro T Jones at April 09, 2014 09:58 AM (1/4XQ)

112 Republican morons! Just because the rank and file of the IRS openly campaigns for Obama and other Democrats- just because the IRS has explicit policies (and proposing new ones) to harass conservative organizations- just because IRS managers take the 5th over and over when questioned about such policies doesn't mean the IRS is out to make life difficult for conservative organizations. Sheesh!

Posted by: Yancey Ward at April 09, 2014 09:58 AM (RGR0F)

113 The Obama Revenue Service: Multiple Investigations Into IRS Workers' Open Cheerleading for Obama -- Ace In THIS matter, remember that GWBush spanked IRS wrists and told them to mind their Ps and Qs in delivering congenial customer service to tax payers. They wouldn't have fond memories of the Bush Era that exposed their malice for what it was and threatened to prosecute officials if they didn't modulate to a lower key.

Posted by: Deserve's got nothing to do with it. at April 09, 2014 09:58 AM (/vO0r)

114 What we NEED is a massive rollback of all federal agencies, and the outright elimination of at least half of them, if not more. And let's start with MY OWN agency, Education. Posted by: MWR, Be still my heart!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 09, 2014 09:58 AM (l3vZN)

115 Military isn't allowed to "campaign" while in uniform....that should go for every Fed/State/Local employee WHILE ON THE JOB.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 09:59 AM (bCEmE)

116

What we NEED is a massive rollback of all federal agencies, and the outright elimination of at least half of them, if not more. And let's start with MY OWN agency, Education.

 

Sorry we can't help you with that, Beth.  Education is an enumerated power.

Posted by: Stuff that might be in the Constitution at April 09, 2014 09:59 AM (JtwS4)

117 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 01:55 PM (4df7R) I think that's more of a fluke of the Hatch act. IIRC the Hatch act removes the investigating authority to OSC, but doesn't necessarily require criminal prosecution. Similarly certain things might be relegated to OIG rather than HR.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 09, 2014 09:59 AM (HDwDg)

118 What we NEED is a massive rollback of all federal agencies, and the outright elimination of at least half of them, if not more. And let's start with MY OWN agency, Education. And we have the perfect excuse: the massive debt. We can't afford a government this large, serious, you guys.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 09, 2014 09:59 AM (0HooB)

119 zzzzzzz... grumble... zzzzz... contempt... zzzzzzzzz *stretch* *yawn* Relect me!!!

Posted by: Darrell Issa at April 09, 2014 09:59 AM (j0wOO)

120 I eagerly await the da when our beloved historical first black president openly targets you tea party terrorists and ships you to the FIMA camps!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein, Brattleboro,VT at April 09, 2014 10:00 AM (Aif/5)

121 I'm getting my passport and one for wife and boy.

If/when we ever win power again the civil service is going to negate the will of the people.

I've seen this movie before in the original russian.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 01:57 PM (TE35l)

It's going to sound like a  movie speech or some trite diatribe:  But I'm not moving.  (here's the part that's going to sound cliche):  too many friends have died to preserve what we have.  If I give up, it dishonors them.

Nope.  Standing fast. 

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:00 AM (x3YFz)

122 88 MWR, You may not have noticed. But your democrat colleagues already are using the power of the state for partisan purposes with impunity. Ask Joe the plumber. Me, I am going to run like hell or live the Obi-Wan Kenobi lifestyle.... Or die before she ges out.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 10:00 AM (TE35l)

123 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 01:55 PM (zF6Iw)


Yes it is a Civil War. It's merely cold right now because - "optics".

But in due time (quicker than we might expect) it will heat up. It is inevitable.

That salient reality is written all across the 20th century.

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." - Mark Twain

Posted by: Grand Ole Pile at April 09, 2014 10:00 AM (pQJEV)

124 Let's not neglect this opportunity to mention what my satisfaction awaits. The prosecution of the entire vast Democrat edifice under the RICO statutes. NEWS FLASH: You won't get no... No no no.

Posted by: Mick Jagger at April 09, 2014 10:00 AM (8ZskC)

125 And just this very morning, I was asking our legal types if it would be a violation of any laws to even be on this website as a government employee...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 09, 2014 10:00 AM (fwARV)

126
MFM: Why is everyone looking at us? Oh wait..Look! War on womyns!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 09, 2014 10:01 AM (1Jaio)

127 Anyone remember when obama was promising to create a "civil" army? We all laughed and thought obama was talking about creating his own brown shirts or something made up from layabouts, illegals, and convicts. No, today the entire Federal Government is obama's civil army.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2014 10:01 AM (m9qVG)

128 When there is a zero percent chance that no prosecutable crime will be found and there is a 100 percent chance that investigation of crimes A and B leads to the discovery of criminal activity X, Y, and Z.  Would you roll the dice?

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 09, 2014 10:01 AM (L02KD)

129 The First Amendment isn't for teabaggers!  It's for gays who want to take down photographers and CEOs!  And the First Amendment does NOT allow you to respond to me with your HATE SPEECH you fucking teabagging mother-raping Nazi-terrorists!

Posted by: Hack Horgan at April 09, 2014 10:01 AM (yhJhK)

130 Willow, I'm getting my passport and one for wife and boy.

BwaHAHAha.

Posted by: The Federal Guy at the Emigration Turnstile at April 09, 2014 10:01 AM (xq1UY)

131 And just this very morning, I was asking our legal types if it would be a violation of any laws to even be on this website as a government employee...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 09, 2014 02:00 PM (fwARV)

Tell me you're kidding.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:02 AM (x3YFz)

132 It's going to sound like a movie speech or some trite diatribe: But I'm not moving. (here's the part that's going to sound cliche): too many friends have died to preserve what we have. If I give up, it dishonors them.

Nope. Standing fast.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 02:00 PM (x3YFz)

 

I'm not saying this in any dismissive way, tangonine, but - what exactly does "standing fast" mean?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 10:03 AM (zF6Iw)

133 I eagerly await the da when our beloved historical first black president openly targets you tea party terrorists and ships you to the FIMA camps! ---- Hell Mary.... that already happened way back in 2010.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2014 10:03 AM (nELVU)

134 Allowing campaigning in a work place only encourages partisan bias. In a government work place, it guarantees it. Granted Fed employee unions are a bigger problem and the campaigning thing is probably last on the list of them, it's still a bad phenomena.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 09, 2014 01:56 PM (HRlKD)


How is it campaigning though?     And while the equipment and office space may belong to the government (so I can see them censuring the employees for the screensaver or for adhering stickers to their computers), I don't see how the buttons are anything but personal property.    If I bring in a picture of me and my family    to display on my desk, and it happens to have been taken at a campaign rally for a Tea Party-aligned candidate, does that count as campaigning?   What if there are signs in the background that say "SO AND SO FOR CONGRESS?"  Is that campaigning? 



You all know that there is no more leftist-hating   rightwing   wacko bird than me.     I am not sympathizing with these leftist assnuggets.     But when it comes to lawfare, the left excels at it.    I do not like providing them any kind of cudgel that they will then wield willy nilly.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:03 AM (4df7R)

135 We should change "gay" to "guy who puts his dick in another guy's ass."  I mean, that's what it is.

Posted by: Precisionist at April 09, 2014 10:03 AM (yhJhK)

136 The employee also said that “if you vote for a Republican, the rich are going to get richer and the poor are going to get poorer.” Pretty hilarious since that is exactly what has happened,under an OBAMA presidency.

Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2014 10:03 AM (zqvg6)

137 And just this very morning, I was asking our legal types if it would be a violation of any laws to even be on this website as a government employee... The First Rule of AoSHQ, especially outsiders, is...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 09, 2014 10:03 AM (0HooB)

138 130 The Federal Guy Working the Turnstile, It'sa 495 dollar gamble Fed.... It comes to it I can fake a shitty accent and be an illegal immigrant waiter

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 10:03 AM (TE35l)

139
If only holder and obama were republicans, we could impeach and put them in jail.  damn our luck.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2014 10:03 AM (hUf/y)

140 When a man, who is about to seize the White House and Federal government, tells you he's gonna 'fundamentally transform' the United States, and tells you he will create his own 'army', you best believe him.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2014 10:03 AM (m9qVG)

141 What we NEED is a massive rollback of all federal agencies, and the outright elimination of at least half of them, if not more. And let's start with MY OWN agency, Education. Posted by: MWR That's raciss, yo.

Posted by: resist we much at April 09, 2014 10:04 AM (u0wJh)

142 Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 09, 2014 02:00 PM (fwARV) Did they ask if it was a conservative website? Because I'm told that's what makes it a crime.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 09, 2014 10:04 AM (HDwDg)

143 131 And just this very morning, I was asking our legal types if it would be a violation of any laws to even be on this website as a government employee... Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 09, 2014 02:00 PM (fwARV) According to DoD's ethics Counsel.....no.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 09, 2014 10:04 AM (LvaeI)

144

Tell me you're kidding.

 

 

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 02:02 PM (x3YFz)

 

 

Not at all kidding.  We received an email which read, in part:

 

With mid-term elections scheduled to take place this year, please keep in mind the rules that apply to the political activities of Government employees.  The most significant limitations restrict you from:

-          engaging in political activities during duty time;

 

 

Is visiting and commenting on this website considered a political activity?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 09, 2014 10:04 AM (fwARV)

145 I eagerly await the da when our beloved historical first black president openly targets you tea party terrorists and ships you to the FIMA camps!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein, Brattleboro,VT at April 09, 2014 02:00 PM (Aif/5)




Then who is going to pay the taxes to keep the welfare state running?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 09, 2014 10:04 AM (1Jaio)

146 what exactly does "standing fast" mean?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 02:03 PM (zF6Iw)

Ah... the english language.

To me it means:  defend your position.

Googled it for you (no fee charged):

refuse to abandon one's opinion or belief

  Familiarity information: STAND FAST used as a verb is very rare.


Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:05 AM (x3YFz)

147

And just this very morning, I was asking our legal types if it would be a violation of any laws to even be on this website as a government employee...

 

What did they say?

 

Tangent: back when Napster was a thing we got an e-mail from our company's General Counsel telling us to remove any downloaded music from our work computers.

 

Being a smartass, I called him and said "what about the fair use doctrine? Can I keep stuff I also own on CD?"

 

And he said, "I don't care if you download the entire Beatles anthology, I just have to be on record as forbidding it".  I liked that guy.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 09, 2014 10:05 AM (JtwS4)

148 And we have the perfect excuse: the massive debt. We can't afford a government this large, serious, you guys. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 09, 2014 01:59 PM (0HooB) 52% of the country sees your massive debt and raises you "millionaires and billionaires", "corporations", "the 1%", and other meaningless talking points and slogans. So... onward with boycotting, prosecuting, and raising taxes on the people who are already the only ones paying the bills. Because they are not paying their "fair share" "for the children" "and the middle class". According to 52% of the country, the only reason we have debt is because rich people aren't bankrupt and "folks" don't have enough free shit.

Posted by: Damiano at April 09, 2014 10:05 AM (j0wOO)

149 Tell me you're kidding.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 02:02 PM (x3YFz)



Hell   no he's not.  I wonder the same thing myself at times.  But I get my work done, so at least they can't say I'm not doing my job.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:06 AM (4df7R)

150 Phony scandal.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 09, 2014 10:06 AM (Dg1cR)

151 Don't make me spork a bitch!

Posted by: E-Hol, confused about which thread this is at April 09, 2014 10:06 AM (2oU2+)

152 today the entire Federal Government is obama's civil army. Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2014 02:01 PM (m9qVG) No exaggeration since each federal agency has its own SWAT Teams and full armored combat vehicles.

Posted by: Deserve's got nothing to do with it. at April 09, 2014 10:06 AM (/vO0r)

153 So which one IRS employee would like to volunteer to be Holder's show trial? There may be one. If so, it will be some mid-level regional desk-jockey who failed to contribute enough to The Cause in 2012.

Posted by: JEM at April 09, 2014 10:07 AM (o+SC1)

154 Ah... the english language.

To me it means: defend your position.

Googled it for you (no fee charged):

refuse to abandon one's opinion or belief


Familiarity information: STAND FAST used as a verb is very rare.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 02:05 PM (x3YFz)

 

You know, I specifically stated I was not  being dismissive.  No need to be a dick.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 10:07 AM (zF6Iw)

155 Lois Lerner's lawyer commented, for some reason, questioning the timing of these revelations, calling it "odd."

I don't know why he would think it is odd. It was intended to help his client. Instead of the news being about how the management of the IRS conspired with Obama to shut down the political speech of his adversaries, instead the story is about ticky-tack stuff like someone having an Obama screen saver. Or even the worker who got in a conversation with a caller and voiced her personal opinion about how awful she thinks the Republicans are. Yes, there should be consequences for those employees. But, let's keep our eye on the ball. The federal government, obviously under orders from Obama, has been engaging in activity designed to harass and silence Obama's political adversaries.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 09, 2014 10:08 AM (IN7k+)

156 No exaggeration since each federal agency has its own SWAT Teams and full armored combat vehicles. How long before we get those really neat peaked covers and all the eagle medallions?

Posted by: NOAA Mounted Police at April 09, 2014 10:08 AM (l3vZN)

157

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 09, 2014 02:05 PM (JtwS4)

 

 

I can - within our bureau's internet usage policy - visit what websites I wish to visit so long as it is clear I do not speak for the Department of Commerce, the Office of Inspector General or any other government entity.

 

I need to update my name.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, who does speak for the Department of Commerce, the Office of Inspector General at April 09, 2014 10:08 AM (fwARV)

158 You know, I specifically stated I was not being dismissive. No need to be a dick.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 02:07 PM (zF6Iw)

uh... I wasn't being a dick.  Wow.

Less caffeine? Easy, Crusher.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:08 AM (x3YFz)

159 135 We should change "gay" to "guy who puts his dick in another guy's ass." I mean, that's what it is.


Ah yes. The Human SewerHole of Love!

Fecal Fucking.

Turd Twat.

Poop Pumper and Ass Adonis.

It's all so lyrical!

Posted by: Something at April 09, 2014 10:08 AM (pQJEV)

160 No exaggeration since each federal agency has its own SWAT Teams and full armored combat vehicles. Posted by: Deserve's got nothing to do with it. at April 09, 2014 02:06 PM (/vO0r) ---- What.... you dont think 4 billion 40 cal hollowpoints are going to just shoot themselves do you???

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2014 10:08 AM (nELVU)

161 153 Jem, Maybe, I think they could nail a HILLARY! Puma fan maybe... or they will get NSA to out a Teahadist in IRS..

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 10:08 AM (TE35l)

162 Mangano and Sherman tallied the number of deaths in about 100 U.S. cities in the 14 weeks after the Fukushima accident, compared with the same time period from the year before. Projected across the entire U.S., the difference amounted to thousands of "excess" deaths. The study was titled "An Unexpected Mortality Increase in the United States Follows Arrival of the Radioactive Plume from Fukushima: Is There a Correlation?"


... let me get this straight, if I contrast the number of deaths in the US in the 5 years before before Jan 20, 2009 with those in the five years since, all those extras deaths were cause by Barack Obama (or is it that George W Bush saved more lives) ?

And YES, both comparisons are equally racist ... meaning none.

Posted by: Carl Friedrich Gauss at April 09, 2014 10:09 AM (e8kgV)

163 You know, I specifically stated I was not being dismissive. No need to be a dick. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 02:07 PM (zF6Iw) We don't read posts. You expect us to read comments? Oh, BTW, I passed the parade ground today. The Imperial Hussars seemed to be in fine fettle. Carry on.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 09, 2014 10:09 AM (LvaeI)

164 We don't need a prosecutor. We need a lynch mob.

When the government ignores the law and runs as though its an autocracy, the response should be equal and unequivocal. 

I've had enough of an AG and Administration that selectively enforces, obfuscates and ignores the law. I am equally tired of the wimpy, cowardly, Vihy-Republicans in Congress who do absolutely zero to oppose this authoritarianism.

We are a republic of laws. Without them, there is no republic.

Posted by: Marcus T. at April 09, 2014 10:09 AM (GGCsk)

165 Re: Lerner and OFA - OFA as Obama's re-election organization. So she assisted and/or coordinated w/his re-election team and now they are hiring her? Yeah. No chance this is a payoff for not testifying.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2014 10:09 AM (udjuE)

166 bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 09, 2014 10:09 AM (V4CBV)

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:09 AM (4df7R)

169

I need to update my name.

 

Lol

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 09, 2014 10:10 AM (JtwS4)

170 Don't underestimate the pencil pushers in obama's 'civil army.' They have the power to mess with your lives in many ways.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2014 10:10 AM (m9qVG)

171 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 02:07 PM (zF6Iw)

You mistook good-natured rib poking for dickery.  If I was being a dick, you'd know.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:10 AM (x3YFz)

172 Does NOT speak.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, who does NOT speak for the Department of Commerce, the Office of Inspector Gen at April 09, 2014 02:10 PM (fwARV)



Aw man, I was hoping you wouldn't notice!  



I keed, I keed!   We don't want our Nearsider getting in trouble.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:10 AM (4df7R)

173 The IRS was 95% Democrat 10 years ago as well. But they didn't harass conservative groups. The composition of the IRS didn't change with Obama. But with Obama, they knew they could harass evil cons and get away with it. That's the scary as fuck part of this.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 09, 2014 10:10 AM (0LHZx)

174 156 No exaggeration since each federal agency has its own SWAT Teams and full armored combat vehicles.


How long before we get those really neat peaked covers and all the eagle medallions?


Have I ever told you the story about the Fatherland?


Here. Pull up a chair.....

Posted by: Heinrich Himmler at April 09, 2014 10:10 AM (pQJEV)

175 Nope. Standing fast. Yep. Because WE. LIVE. HERE.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 09, 2014 10:10 AM (7ObY1)

176 If a Republican were President, this situation would be called a "constitutional crisis" by the MFM.

Posted by: Beorn at April 09, 2014 10:10 AM (dGF4J)

177 So we'll see if I get fired.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, who does NOT speak for the Department of Commerce, Office of Inspector General at April 09, 2014 10:11 AM (fwARV)

178 Posted by: Washington Nearsider, who does speak for the Department of Commerce, the Office of Inspector General at April 09, 2014 02:08 PM (fwARV) Ooooooh. Nice catch.

Posted by: Sean Bannion, whose opinions are not necessarily endorsed by the Undersecretary of Defense for Aquis at April 09, 2014 10:11 AM (LvaeI)

179 I wonder if gays are really ready for the backlash that will inevitably result as they continue to persecute and use lawfare against anyone who doesn't agree with them on everything.  I mean, do they realize how easy it is to discriminate against them and get away with it?  Only an idiot says "I'm not going to be able to take photographs at your gay wedding because it is against my religious beliefs."  It's a lot safer to just say "Sorry, already booked that day" or "Sorry, I'm on vacation that week."

Posted by: Formerly Sympathetic, Now Apathetic at April 09, 2014 10:12 AM (yhJhK)

180 Bannion - yeah, I read it through again and was like oooooooooooh... That's like eleven kinds of bad...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, who does NOT speak for the Department of Commerce, Office of Inspector General at April 09, 2014 10:12 AM (fwARV)

181 173 Mr Mau Mau, Oh how I long for the days of AP, and Poppin' Fresh saying I was an alarmist and implying I was Rayciss for thinking Ogabe would weaponize the civil service.... Just 4.5 short years ago....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 10:12 AM (TE35l)

182 And just this very morning, I was asking our legal types if it would be a violation of any laws to even be on this website as a government employee... Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 09, 2014 02:00 PM (fwARV) What'd they say? My experience at another agency is that as long as you're not using government computers to actively campaign or run some business, you're good to go.

Posted by: Mainah at April 09, 2014 10:12 AM (659DL)

183 See, if my nic wasn't already  frigging long I could add "Whose opinions in no way    (seriously, no fucking way)    reflect those of the NH Dept of Education or the US Dept of Education."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:13 AM (4df7R)

184 101 ♫The hills are aliiiiiive With the sound of the GOP not dyyyyying on them. ♪ I needed that laugh today. Thank you.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 09, 2014 10:13 AM (7ObY1)

185 What we NEED is a massive rollback of all federal agencies, and the outright elimination of at least half of them, if not more. And let's start with MY OWN agency, Education.

Posted by: MWR

usdebtclock has the debt at $17.572 Trillion and counting. At some point, math wins despite the printing presses.

I want the Democrats to be in charge at that time just to see them FORCED to choose between doling out the remaining inflated dollars to their voting hordes reliant on their 'social services' or their government machine.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 09, 2014 10:13 AM (AC0lD)

186 Re: Lerner and OFA (Obama Fucks America)

Posted by: Peter Russo at April 09, 2014 10:13 AM (e8kgV)

187 I will bet you that this happens at EVERY federal agency. Images of the president are allowed because he's the president but I have a feeling all that is situational. I've seen people with campaign shirts and hats at my agency, I've seen self-made stuff. Cold day in hell before these things are given a warning and nevermind a firing.

Posted by: Former Mass. Resident at April 09, 2014 10:13 AM (0MSn4)

188

uh... I wasn't being a dick. Wow.

 

OK.  Misread you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 10:13 AM (zF6Iw)

189 We need to go back to the spoils system. That way we'll at least occasionally get conservatives in govt jobs. Right now it's always 95% progtards. Only difference is when a Repub is in the white house the progtards bureaucrats what their step. When a fascist Democrat like Obama is in charge, the progtards run wild.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 09, 2014 10:14 AM (ZPrif)

190

Guess it's butt covering time.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch, who is thoroughly unimportant so no one cares whom he speaks for at April 09, 2014 10:14 AM (JtwS4)

191 179 I wonder if gays are really ready for the backlash that will inevitably result as they continue to persecute and use lawfare against anyone who doesn't agree with them on everything. I mean, do they realize how easy it is to discriminate against them and get away with it? Only an idiot says "I'm not going to be able to take photographs at your gay wedding because it is against my religious beliefs." It's a lot safer to just say "Sorry, already booked that day" or "Sorry, I'm on vacation that week." Posted by: Formerly Sympathetic, Now Apathetic at April 09, 2014 02:12 PM (yhJhK) __________ In the cases that have gone to court, the couple didn't say they were gay. They had a contract in place, then only revealed they're gay afterwards. So it's hard to do the "we're on vacation that week" in that situation.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 09, 2014 10:14 AM (0LHZx)

192 So we'll see if I get fired.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, who does NOT speak for the Department of Commerce, Office of Inspector General at April 09, 2014 02:11 PM (fwARV)

Hah!  You have no idea how many times I've said that to myself as I drove to work.

Never happened.

Lot's of good stories.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:14 AM (x3YFz)

193 Anyone remember the recession? Did it just go away? Or is obama's recession like that creepy uncle the family never talks about?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2014 10:14 AM (m9qVG)

194 175 Citizen x, For as long s they allow it... The civil service is in collusion with Gaia Kult neo-luddites who think ecology is a Disney cartoon... NOBODY will fight and I will not be a lone nut.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 10:14 AM (TE35l)

195 love em or hate em, olliver north and john poindexter more or less fell on their swords during iran contra after getting immunity. you know lerner would do the same. I never came a cross a defnintive answer on pardons, can obama pardon her if she is never convicted? I am fine with letting her blow in the wind for years until obama is out of office and law and order are reestablished. she knows she did something wrong or she would never have contrived her mea culpa in the conference.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2014 10:14 AM (rDidD)

196

The people who answer the phone for the IRS 1) are the same type of person who staffs the TSA checkpoints and 2) know almost nothing about taxation. 

The IRS folks answer tax questions correctly at about the same rate that TSA screeners catch terrorists.  (Hint: the rate approaches zero.)

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at April 09, 2014 10:14 AM (bbivj)

197 Education is an enumerated power.

It's enumerated, all right, in the Northwest Ordinance, the "second constitution."
You can just about date the birth of RINO-ism to that document's adoption.
Millions of people, having been raised under it, believe in their heart of hearts that education is, in fact, a federal power and responsibility. And they're Republicans.

Bar-talking, you can always make the case for liberty, of several stripes. You never get very far opposing compulsory one-size education. It's ground into us. Without it there would be no community theater, or football. You wouldn't recognize the place.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 09, 2014 10:14 AM (xq1UY)

198 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 02:03 PM (4df7R) I see your point and completely agree that what people have on their desk at work should not be a lawfare issue. It should be a common sense issue. For every prior generation back to the dawn of history, people were expected to maintain a clean and professional workspace and devote their time at work to the tasks that they are paid to do. Alas, nowadays, the concept of going to work, doing your job, and acting in a professional manner are archaic, hateful, racists, sexist ideas foisted on people by evil, nameless and faceless corporations bent on exploiting people for profit and making employee's lives miserable. Still, I agree. Get the lawfare out of it. If it's my company and my building, I have the right to specify (or not) what is or is not appropriate office decor without fear of prosecution. If HOAs can prevent you from painting your house paisley and parking junk cars on your lawn, surely the owner of a company can specify limits on cubicle decor.

Posted by: Damiano at April 09, 2014 10:16 AM (j0wOO)

199 Familiarity information: STAND FAST used as a verb is very rare.
Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014

It's used as 'status' not a command?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 09, 2014 10:16 AM (HRlKD)

200 Damn I need to get to work. I don't know why I posted so much today. I did however earn two compliments, two dozen ignores, a 'you're full of shit' and a 'fuck you'. All in all a busy mid-day. Have a great day everyone.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 09, 2014 10:16 AM (l3vZN)

201 And here is some related information on the velvet glove approach your benevolent government is employing by generously setting up "first amendment areas" https://tinyurl.com/oah2od2 In the future you will be told what "free speech" is. For now, you will be told where you can practice it. It ain't everywhere.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 09, 2014 10:16 AM (BZAd3)

202 I am fine with letting her blow in the wind for years until obama is out of office and law and order are reestablished. ---- Heh heh heh. Stupid clingers

Posted by: !! ** HILLARY ** !! at April 09, 2014 10:16 AM (nELVU)

203 Ugh. Can you imagine? It's bad enough that you might have to call these people, but then you have to listen to some moron drooling over his/her Idiot Messiah when you do so? So many people. So little tar and feathers.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 09, 2014 10:16 AM (/AHDz)

204 In the cases that have gone to court, the couple didn't say they were gay. They had a contract in place, then only revealed they're gay afterwards. So it's hard to do the "we're on vacation that week" in that situation. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo hope y'all are happy remembering your day by looking at a close up of swirls and ridges.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2014 10:16 AM (rDidD)

205 can obama pardon her if she is never convicted? ---- More, he can do it if she is never charged. Ford/Nixon.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 10:17 AM (gmeXX)

206 OK. Misread you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 09, 2014 02:13 PM (zF6Iw)

no worries.  Happens.  No more coffee for you, though.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:17 AM (x3YFz)

207 btw, last Friday the March jobs report was released. Did you hear the R's say just one word about it?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2014 10:17 AM (m9qVG)

208 More, he can do it if she is never charged. Ford/Nixon. Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 02:17 PM meh, not the same thing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2014 10:18 AM (rDidD)

209 meh, not the same thing ---- What do you mean?

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 10:18 AM (gmeXX)

210 So many people. So little tar and feathers.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 09, 2014 02:16 PM (/AHDz)

there are a LOT of empty mineshafts and wells, though.  You work with what you've got.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:18 AM (x3YFz)

211 Anyone remember the recession? Did it just go away? Or is obama's recession like that creepy uncle the family never talks about? Comrade, there is no inflation. Everyone has a job. Gasoline is not at record high prices, and neither is food. All is well.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 09, 2014 10:19 AM (0HooB)

212 sure it is inconvenient to have to spend a day walking around shooting lousy pictures but you do not have any film expenses anymore.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2014 10:19 AM (rDidD)

213 Ugh. Can you imagine? It's bad enough that you might have to call these people, but then you have to listen to some moron drooling over his/her Idiot Messiah when you do so?


This is     the perfect opportunity to


A) Contact the Ombudsman

B) Write a letter to the commissioner of whatever agency you're dealing with, and

C) Call your local newspaper



That last one especially.    Pick the right paper and you can really make their lives a living hell.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:19 AM (4df7R)

214 Such fond memories of a time when the MFM had wall to wall coverage of Ashcroft covering a tit.

Posted by: RWC at April 09, 2014 10:20 AM (fWAjv)

215 there are a LOT of empty mineshafts and wells, though. You work with what you've got. Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 02:18 PM (x3YFz) ---- And thanks to OSHA enforcement on lighting safety..... PLENTY of lamposts out there.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2014 10:20 AM (nELVU)

216 Personally I think it's dumb to refuse a client based on politics. If I were to do business only with people who have the same politics as me, I'd be broke pretty soon. I did some consulting work for a touchy feely let's all hug and sing kumbaya and the world will be a happy place type of non-profit. I didn't give a fuck. They paid my hourly rate just like everyone else. And I did good work for them. I disagreed with about 99.9% of what they stood for, but whatever. Greens trumps red/blue. That being said I think it's insane that the govt can force you to conduct business with someone you don't want to conduct business with.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 09, 2014 10:20 AM (0LHZx)

217 207 soothsayer, GOPers don't want to join Rayciss Business math... Besdes uh there was weather and a mudslide... Giggles' numbers can't be compared to past Presidencies that had small shit like world wars and dust bowls and shit.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 10:20 AM (TE35l)

218 Pick the right paper and you can really make their lives a living hell.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 02:19 PM (4df7R)

i heart u.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:20 AM (x3YFz)

219 I can't get through the links on the top of Drudge. Has anyone else?

Just wondering if the totes legitimate Democrat government is getting it's thug on again like the Clinton years or if it's something else.

Posted by: Methos at April 09, 2014 10:20 AM (hO9ad)

220 OT, but is someone out there   in the   HQ's ether    talking about me?    My ears are burning.    *squints at Horde*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:21 AM (4df7R)

221 Pick the right paper and you can really make their lives a living hell. Just remember to dress up your story to the newspaper as praising whichever government worker. "Oh, I was so glad that Agent So-and-so told me about the evil Republican plan to take women back to the mid 1970s!" That will get them actually to print it. THEN other groups can pick it up and run with it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 09, 2014 10:21 AM (PYAXX)

222 i heart u.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 02:20 PM (x3YFz)



Awww, shucks.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:21 AM (4df7R)

223 Damn damn damn. Less warriors in my fight against the Tea Party.

Posted by: Karl Rove's Sweaty Protuberances at April 09, 2014 10:22 AM (thLL8)

224 Why do nearly all Newspaper links fail?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2014 10:22 AM (bitz6)

225 In case any of you noticed that the world seems like a slightly better place today, let me inform you that fuckwad Obama's illegal alien welfare queen Aunt Zeituni died of cancer yesterday at 61.

Posted by: Parasite Spotter at April 09, 2014 10:22 AM (yhJhK)

226 Not one will suffer one fucking thing close to punishment.

Yet--you and I must scrape about on our knees lest we run afoul of these stupid fucking traitorous, anti-American scum.


Posted by: RoyalOil at April 09, 2014 10:22 AM (VjL9S)

227 What do you mean? Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 02:18 PM nixon was president, the democrats and everyone who wanted some got their pound of nixon when he left office. it was in everyone's interest to let ford's pardon slide and move on. you may be right though that is not the case I would lead with. have we ever pardoned someone similar to lerner who was not convicted?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2014 10:22 AM (rDidD)

228 220 OT, but is someone out there in the HQ's ether talking about me? My ears are burning. *squints at Horde* Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 02:21 PM (4df7R) Talking??? ::: shifty eyes :::: No. Not talking. Ogling maybe. But not talking.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:22 AM (LvaeI)

229 I disagreed with about 99.9% of what they stood for, but whatever. Greens trumps red/blue.
-----
The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

Posted by: Stuff God said volume 50-something at April 09, 2014 10:22 AM (hO9ad)

230 In case you didn't hear, the "news" told us we hit a "milestone" with the March jobs report. Yeah, we finally recovered all the jobs lost during the 2008 recession, (is how they put it). No mention, of course, the increase the new entries to the work force since 2008.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2014 10:23 AM (m9qVG)

231 Nood nude

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:24 AM (LvaeI)

232 Well, Obama did say that after the election he would be more flexible. Six months later we get to see what he meant and only a few months short of three more years 'util the clock runs out.

Posted by: Zen Smith Jr. at April 09, 2014 10:24 AM (IXMvb)

233 And let the inevitable Nixon comparisons commence. Wait, what?

Posted by: joncelli at April 09, 2014 10:24 AM (RD7QR)

234 OT, but related to the previous thread   about the PA stabbing:


Sophomore Trinity McCool told USA TODAY that the suspect, after attacking several other people nearby, took a swipe at her and friend with what looked like a butcher knife.



"I saw his face, the look in his eyes, I was horrified," she said.



Another student, Nate Scimio, blocked the attack, however, by sticking out his arm as the blade came down.



"(Nate) took the stab right in his arm and saved my friend and me," McCool said. "I'm pretty sure it was his instinct. He didn't want anyone to get hurt. He told everybody to run away."



McCool said Scimio also apparently set off the fire alarm that sent students rushing to the exits. Scimio later tweeted a selfie from the hospital showing his right arm in a bandage...




That Scimio    is a good kid.      Bless him and his cool thinking.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 09, 2014 10:25 AM (4df7R)

235 nixon was president, the democrats and everyone who wanted some got their pound of nixon when he left office. it was in everyone's interest to let ford's pardon slide and move on. you may be right though that is not the case I would lead with. have we ever pardoned someone similar to lerner who was not convicted? ---- You just mean the politics are different. I was simply giving an example of a presidential pardon for someone who had yet been prosecuted let alone convicted.

Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 10:25 AM (gmeXX)

236 Posted by: fixerupper at April 09, 2014 02:20 PM (nELVU) You might have something there.... All those government-provided lampposts. And, thanks to legalized marijuana, an abundance of hemp. What to do. What to do...

Posted by: E-Hol, confused about which thread this is at April 09, 2014 10:25 AM (2oU2+)

237 Off, E-Hol sock!

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at April 09, 2014 10:25 AM (2oU2+)

238 In case you didn't hear, the "news" told us we hit a "milestone" with the March jobs report.

Yeah, we finally recovered all the jobs lost during the 2008 recession, (is how they put it).

No mention, of course, the increase the new entries to the work force since 2008.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2014 02:23 PM (m9qVG)

what's that old adage about pissing down someone's back and claiming rain?

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:25 AM (x3YFz)

239 230 Soothsayer, Demographic Math is rayciss! Seriously if they could just kill Bill Ayers' 25 million everything'd be ducky.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 09, 2014 10:26 AM (TE35l)

240

OT, but is someone out there in the HQ's ether talking about me? My ears are burning. *squints at Horde*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 02:21 PM (4df7R)
[/]

 

fap fap fap.

 

what?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 09, 2014 10:26 AM (JtwS4)

241 Any notions of "Justice" being served by the racist, dishonest cockholsters in the current administration are fuck sideways two times till Tuesday. 

The statutes of limitations won't run until well into the next administration BUT my guess is Holder's office will indict all of Teh Won's people  in the eleventh hour of the down low preezy's term with the empty suit issuing pardons within the next hour.  It will be late on a Friday and the administration will have a non-war Wag the Dog/Look a Squirrel!!! event for the dishonest media to breathlessly report on at the same time and for the coming days.

Assholes.

Posted by: eureka! at April 09, 2014 10:28 AM (q7DBM)

242 Clinton pardoned Mark Green and he hadn't yet been convicted - or was it that he fled or something? I just recall that it was sketchy.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2014 10:28 AM (udjuE)

243 You might have something there....
All those government-provided lampposts.
And, thanks to legalized marijuana, an abundance of hemp.

What to do. What to do...

Posted by: E-Hol, confused about which thread this is at April 09, 2014 02:25 PM (2oU2+)

/whiteboard

First, you lure them in with the promise of EBT cards and free cell phones...

/erase erase erase

we're going to need punji pits.  And barbed wire.  And two penguins, 3 roller skates and a goat.

This will work.

Posted by: tangonine at April 09, 2014 10:28 AM (x3YFz)

244 You just mean the politics are different. I was simply giving an example of a presidential pardon for someone who had yet been prosecuted let alone convicted. Posted by: SH at April 09, 2014 02:25 well, yeah, that's why I said it was different, it's different. you are correct in your example but I am not sure is it anything more than a one off.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2014 10:29 AM (rDidD)

245 This will make you smile - for an instant. https://tinyurl.com/lhe3awr Then you will fall on your knees in supplication to SMOD to come swiftly to free you from this smolder sea of bullshit.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 09, 2014 10:29 AM (BZAd3)

246 OT, but is someone out there in the HQ's ether talking about me? My ears are burning. *squints at Horde* Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 09, 2014 02:21 PM (4df7R) I have not seen anything but if you locate the thread let me know cause I got a few ideas to contribute.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 09, 2014 10:30 AM (rDidD)

247 Wymyn and minorities hardest hit. http://tinyurl.com/lzlj4re

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 09, 2014 10:31 AM (XUKZU)

248 Winter is coming

Posted by: Bran and Arya Stark at April 09, 2014 10:32 AM (lryY4)

249


Communism is just people sharing, and being full of justice and care for other humans.

Except white guys, they should all be, you know...

What the fuck is going on in this country and will we be able to pull out of it.



Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at April 09, 2014 10:32 AM (xggaJ)

250

"Lois Lerner's lawyer commented, for some reason, questioning the timing of these revelations, calling it "odd"."

 

I think he meant 'awkward' but didn't want to tell too much of the truth.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Days of Rage Sale at the Outrage Outlet! at April 09, 2014 10:33 AM (hLRSq)

251 What the fuck is going on in this country and will we be able to pull out of it. Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at April 09, 2014 02:32 PM (xggaJ) Short answer: I don't answer obviously rhetorical questions.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 09, 2014 10:33 AM (BZAd3)

252 66 It's not only Lerner. The IRS employees went along with the whole deal.

as we also saw with parks and recreation along with shutting down monuments for political purpose.

we have some real issues everywhere.

Posted by: willow at April 09, 2014 01:48 PM (nqBYe)

__________________________________________________________

Emphasis on "everywhere."  The bureaucracies have been salted to no end with 'rat fellow travelers, their unionized gubmint compemsation/bennies their reward.

Indeed, I read recently that Nixon couldn't have used the IRS against his foes if he wanted to.  Because he was Republican.

Posted by: eureka! at April 09, 2014 10:33 AM (q7DBM)

253 I wonder if gays are really ready for the backlash that will inevitably result as they continue to persecute and use lawfare against anyone who doesn't agree with them on everything. I mean, do they realize how easy it is to discriminate against them and get away with it? Only an idiot says "I'm not going to be able to take photographs at your gay wedding because it is against my religious beliefs." It's a lot safer to just say "Sorry, already booked that day" or "Sorry, I'm on vacation that week." Posted by: Formerly Sympathetic, Now Apathetic at April 09, 2014 02:12 PM (yhJhK) The gays know this. So their tack now is to call the photog, make all arrangements, sign contract, reveal gay wedding surprise. The only way I can see photographers getting around this is by insisting that both bride and groom must apply in person for photogs services, at which time scheduling conflicts will be evaluated. When both brides show up for appointment, calendar is full. Eventually, someone will get caught on that when it is learned that John and Jane's wedding was scheduled after Julia and Juliet attempted to schedule theirs. The government of the individual states have created this mess, by removing freedom to associate from their state statutes. By continuously adding every tiny grievance group to a list of MAY NOT DISCRIMINATE, until the list includes everyone and every behavior.(Let's face it, the NM photographer was fined for discriminating against a behavior, an act called a gay wedding. No proof or even charge that she discriminated against the individuals. The cake baker in CA had sold bakery products to the individual gays in her public baker for some time, it was only when they wanted her to engage in an event of behavior and she refused that she was sued and fined). This means that individuals can no longer decide what behavior they will and will not engage in. I'm not sure if this is fascism, maxism, communism, or what ism it is, but it sure isn't freedom. It's not even allowing your nation to have adults.

Posted by: Jen at April 09, 2014 10:35 AM (AnpH5)

254 216 Personally I think it's dumb to refuse a client based on politics. If I were to do business only with people who have the same politics as me, I'd be broke pretty soon. I did some consulting work for a touchy feely let's all hug and sing kumbaya and the world will be a happy place type of non-profit. I didn't give a fuck. They paid my hourly rate just like everyone else. And I did good work for them. I disagreed with about 99.9% of what they stood for, but whatever. Greens trumps red/blue.

That being said I think it's insane that the govt can force you to conduct business with someone you don't want to conduct business with.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 09, 2014 02:20 PM (0LHZx)

++++

I would agree in many circumstances, but I see a difference between transacting business with someone and being expected to embrace a lifestyle that is repugnant to you.

If I was a janitor, I would not want the contract for cleaning up at a gay bathhouse. I'm sure there would be others who would be happy to have the business, but it wouldn't be for me. If I were a photographer, I would not want to photograph a gay wedding. I don't want to be the one who is responsible for making sure the photos come out well. The couple is going to want pictures that they can look at for years and bring back fond memories of the occasion. The photographer would be the one who composes those pictures. Telling the couple to embrace for the next shot. Getting the kiss in a light that makes it looks good to those who are into that kind of thing. Not for me. Thanks, but no thanks.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 09, 2014 10:36 AM (IN7k+)

255 What we need to do is blanket roll and plunger rape Holder, and then throw him out of the car in the high weeds under a freeway overpass. Hypothetically, of course.

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 09, 2014 10:37 AM (8/DeP)

256 Do you know anybody who works for the government? A former colleague went to work for the government and she tried to encourage me to go to work for them. It was amazing how she, in the same sentence, could speak about how great the money and benefits were for working for the government, and then go on to tell you how few people in government actually did ANYTHING! She was/is an accountant.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 09, 2014 10:38 AM (BZAd3)

257 The link below is to an article in American Thinker written by a gay man that has clarity and understanding of what we are losing by the nanny stating of gays. How we are creating a large class of newly discriminated citizens called heterosexuals. http://tinyurl.com/qhnp48l

Posted by: Jen at April 09, 2014 10:40 AM (AnpH5)

258 1. National sales tax and then eliminate the IRS. 2. Fundamental civil service reform, including the ability to fire civil servants in the same way that private sector employees can be fired. 3. Eliminate as many agencies as possible; or, failing that, reduce the functions of the worst agencies to the point where they are powerless to do harm. I'm looking at you, ATF.

Posted by: joncelli at April 09, 2014 10:41 AM (RD7QR)

259

Time was, the IRS was everyone's whipping boy (OK, no dog whistles in there, relax).  Both parties on the Hill would - sometimes unreasonably, unfairly - dog the IRS because ..... drum roll ..... political gold, that's why.  Duh.

 

So now is there some good reason the GOP cannot engage in what used to be standard (and bipartisan) reflexive easy cheap political hatchetry, but this time with gusto, and the added (sinister, unbelievable) issue of politicization of the IRS? 

 

In a galaxy far far away, long long ago, the titanic, explosive, incredible political issues and scandals the GOP has stacked neatly (catalogued, pre-wrapped almost) on its electoral plate would have been unimaginable.  Because the country wasn't as lawless and debased, no major political party was as disgracefully irresponsible, arrogant, and alien. 

 

But it's probably too much to hope that this November will be an even bigger national earthquake than 2010, and ABOUT SOMETHING, not just "give the other guys a chance" mindless lazy voting.  Yeah.  Too much to hope.  Just thought I'd not some basic political realities from another age (that would be, oh, 10 years ago, at most).

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at April 09, 2014 10:50 AM (afQnV)

260 I'm asking Anonymous to get a hold of the home addresses of individual IRS agents and other government apparatchiks. They want a war, we'll bring it to their fucking front porch, in front of their children.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 09, 2014 10:56 AM (Ec6wH)

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