March 05, 2014

Senator Mark Pryor (D-ObamaCare): People In Arkansas Like It When We Attack People's Military Service, Right?
— DrewM

Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas is trailing his GOP opponent Congressman Tom Cotton and seems to think the key to a comeback is saying Cotton feels "entitled" to a Senate seat because he served in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Pryor made the comment in a profile on MSNBC. If you watch, he doesn't really bring Cotton's service up, the reporter does. It's a perfectly normal DC conversation...real success is passing bills, while military service is something we say nice things about but isn't really of any practical value. This is the danger red-state Democrats run into. Back home they need to pretend to be gun lovin', liberal hating, regular folk. But when they are in DC, they are very much part of the Pelosi-Reid, DC liberal establishment.

It's a good plan (and one conservatives need to find a way to work in reverse) right up until you forget which part you're supposed to be playing.

Laughing at someone's military service is a This Town thing Mark, it's unlikely to play well back home.

Pryor's worlds collided on MSNBC and he's going to spend a lot of time fruitlessly trying to put them back together.

Congratulations to soon to be Senator Tom Cotton.

Posted by: DrewM at 06:13 AM | Comments (168)
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1 I hope we can change that ossified institution.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 05, 2014 06:16 AM (l3vZN)

2 Cotton is endorsed by both the GOPe elite and the Tea Party. A rarity these days. Somebody better warn McLame, stat.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 06:17 AM (7ObY1)

3 As my good friend Bubba Clinton used to say, "I loathe the military!".

Posted by: Mark Pryoroffense at March 05, 2014 06:17 AM (Dwehj)

4 At this point, Pryor is just doing job interviews.

Posted by: SH at March 05, 2014 06:18 AM (gmeXX)

5 Things are looking good for 2014.  Pryor is desperate.  Let's add many more Democrats to the Hagan/Pryor list - seeing Senator Irritable Bowl Syndrome lose his Majority Leader status is of extreme importance to me.

Posted by: MountainMan at March 05, 2014 06:18 AM (euDj2)

6

The huge irony is that someone who was first elected because their dad was Governor and Senator would complain of anyone being "entitled".

Posted by: buzz at March 05, 2014 06:20 AM (i27M5)

7 In before prescient11's TOM COTTON!!!eleventy!! post.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 05, 2014 06:20 AM (bCEmE)

8 Republicans work in reverse? They would be lynched by the Internet mob before they could get utter a second sentence .

Posted by: Nick Ovtyme at March 05, 2014 06:20 AM (Kz9dH)

9 Don't know these people. Must be a local news story.

The Prophet in me predicts there will be a lot of local news stories in November this year.

Posted by: Poppin' Mary Often at March 05, 2014 06:21 AM (0i6tq)

10 Is it just me or does Pryor look like a child-toucher?


Posted by: EC at March 05, 2014 06:21 AM (GQ8sn)

11 Stupid guy joining the military. Heh heh heh.

Wait, is that thing on?

Posted by: Soon to be Former Senator Pryor at March 05, 2014 06:22 AM (RD7QR)

12 Meanwhile, following the famous reset with Russia (which by the way, is running like a well oiled machine), Putin threatens to confiscate U.S. assets.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 05, 2014 06:22 AM (BZAd3)

13 The touch, the feel of cotton.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 05, 2014 06:22 AM (n3DY5)

14 COTTON/RUBIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2014 06:22 AM (da5Wo)

15 it just me or does Pryor look like a child-toucher? -------- All I'm saying is, he likes to stay at my house sometimes.

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 05, 2014 06:22 AM (Aif/5)

16 That story in the sidebar enrages me.They better move to remove Boehner from leadership asap or we need to completely boycott the GOP.No money,no volunteers,no votes,nothing.

Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 06:23 AM (zqvg6)

17 When Tom Cotton enlisted, he had the opportunity to go in the JAG Corps, but opted for infantry. This little Pryor fuck up will really go over here in western Arkansas, where the gutters fill with spit when his name is mentioned.

Posted by: Bill at March 05, 2014 06:23 AM (uvyrw)

18 Scanning post for GOP-bashing.... What, there's none?! FTR, I usually agree with Drew's opinions of the GOPe.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 05, 2014 06:23 AM (r+7wo)

19 Putin threatens to confiscate U.S. assets.

Hasn't Venezuela already done that, and no one gave a shit?

Posted by: HR at March 05, 2014 06:23 AM (ZKzrr)

20 10 He does have that Sandusky look...

Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 06:23 AM (zqvg6)

21 This guy even looks like a real asshole.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 05, 2014 06:24 AM (T2V/1)

22 12 Meanwhile, following the famous reset with Russia (which by the way, is running like a well oiled machine), Putin threatens to confiscate U.S. assets.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 05, 2014 10:22 AM (BZAd3)


The latest from the Really, Honest to God Free Russians: Those guys in Crimea with the Russian kit, Russian weapons, and Russian APCs are most certainly not Russian. No, certainly not.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 06:24 AM (RD7QR)

23 And its MSNBC doing what they do best, kissing Democrat ass so hard they raise blisters.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 05, 2014 06:25 AM (T2V/1)

24 So, "I'm John Kerry and I'm reporting for doooty" never happened?

There's a whole shitload of Dems who've run for office citing their military service as a qualification.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 05, 2014 06:26 AM (VjL9S)

25

The collapse of respect for military service among wide swathes of society (see Paul Ryan's recent budget idea) is pretty shocking, though I guess not really when all the other degradation is taken into account.  But as most people, including "conservatives", are pretty much unserious about national security anyway (whine like little girls if a conflict isn't short and nearly cost-free), the bigger issue is why would someone bother to don the uniform. 

 

Pryor's father was a very nice guy personally, far as I could tell from lots of direct exposure.  He wrote me a very nice and funny note when I left the Hill, as I'd sort of been his "shadow" foreign policy guy, helping out his very nice assistant and friend of mine, especially on the Senate floor.  I get the feeling the son is a product of the Beltway.  World of difference.

 

Posted by: non-purist at March 05, 2014 06:26 AM (afQnV)

26

Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas is trailing his GOP opponent Congressman Tom Cotton and seems to think the key to a comeback is saying Cotton feels "entitled" to a Senate seat because he served in Afghanistan and Iraq.

 

Ah, yes.   This would    be   a    feeling of entitlement  UNLIKE the feeling of entitlement   Pryor   has   on account of being the son of a former   Governor and Senator.   I'm sure that doesn't make him feel ENTITLED to a seat in Congress; not at all.   

 

Also, WTF is the deal with Pryor's eyes?   Holy shit, that is one scary-eyed dude.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:27 AM (4df7R)

27 16 That story in the sidebar enrages me.They better move to remove Boehner from leadership asap or we need to completely boycott the GOP.No money,no volunteers,no votes,nothing.
========
Can't boycott them any more than I already am.


Posted by: RoyalOil at March 05, 2014 06:27 AM (VjL9S)

28 You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you donÂ’t, you get stuck in Iraq. --- who said That?

Posted by: willow at March 05, 2014 06:28 AM (nqBYe)

29 27 Me either,but we need everybody on board.

Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 06:28 AM (zqvg6)

30 There's a whole shitload of Dems who've run for office citing their military service as a qualification.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 05, 2014 10:26 AM (VjL9S)

 

 

Like Dick "I'm a skinsuit stretched over a joke shop skeleton"  Blumenthal.   The guy who was   bravely    throwing himself into  combat in Vietnam... despite not actually being in Vietnam and instead coordinating Toys for Tots here on the homefront.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:29 AM (4df7R)

31 28 John Kerry.

Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 06:29 AM (zqvg6)

32 22 The latest from the Really, Honest to God Free Russians: Those guys in Crimea with the Russian kit, Russian weapons, and Russian APCs are most certainly not Russian. No, certainly not. Indeed. Why would you doubt this?

Posted by: Crimean People's Front Crack Suicide Squadron at March 05, 2014 06:29 AM (U82Km)

33 SOS, Kerry. imagine that. SOS

Posted by: willow at March 05, 2014 06:29 AM (nqBYe)

34

The huge irony is that someone who was first elected because their dad was Governor and Senator would complain of anyone being "entitled".

 

Really?  This is what's called 'burying the lede.' Toss it in the post, Drew.

Posted by: CJ at March 05, 2014 06:30 AM (9KqcB)

35 steevy. It is actually rather unreal. bunch of freaks in charge of our security

Posted by: willow at March 05, 2014 06:30 AM (nqBYe)

36 How any serving military man or woman can identify as a Democrat, I do not know.

Posted by: Your MFM Gatekeepers at March 05, 2014 06:30 AM (zF6Iw)

37 The touch, the feel of cotton.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 05, 2014 10:22 AM (n3DY5)

 

That was just a little bit ghey.  NTTAWWT.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 05, 2014 06:31 AM (DrWcr)

38 Kerry threatens Putin.
Putin threatens invasion.
The US threatens sanctions.
Sanctions whimper and submit to US demands.

Putin claims the ISS, denies outsiders access, begins weaponizing the station.

Obama says, you can't do that.

Putin laughs says watch me.

Obama displays his manhood by ordering US Military response.
US Military says ' with what? Marching bands and massed bureaucrats?"

Posted by: Poppin' Mary Often at March 05, 2014 06:31 AM (0i6tq)

39 Wow ... it's not often the Democrat films a campaign ad for the Republican.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 05, 2014 06:31 AM (n3DY5)

40 There is not a smidgeon of Russian troops in Ukraine.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at March 05, 2014 06:31 AM (9IiUo)

41 You can see the fear in his     eyes

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 05, 2014 06:31 AM (eoeps)

42 John F'ing Kerry shot himself in the ass more than he shot any NV's.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 06:31 AM (7ObY1)

43

Pryor looks like a sober,  slightly less kiddie-diddling,  Barney Frank.

 

and sock off.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 05, 2014 06:32 AM (zF6Iw)

44 The collapse of respect for military service among wide swathes of society (see Paul Ryan's recent budget idea) is pretty shocking, Evidently, I don't live in one of the wide swathes. I don't see it out here in Flyoverville and Paul Ryan may lick my nuts with gusto. Fucker......

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 05, 2014 06:32 AM (Ffrka)

45 Pryor is a disgusting dirtbag.

Posted by: rplat at March 05, 2014 06:32 AM (UAHTK)

46 36 How any serving military man or woman can identify as a Democrat, I do not know. How any straight man over 30 with a job can identify as a Liberal is beyond me.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 06:33 AM (7ObY1)

47 There is not a smidgeon of Russian troops in Ukraine.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at March 05, 2014 10:31 AM (9IiUo)

 

 

"No,      zere iz    metric    fuckton    of Ruzzin troops in ze Ukraine."

 

- Vladimir Putin (off mic)

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:33 AM (4df7R)

48 Not surprising,considering that John Kerry testified to congress the most vile lies and distortions about his( at that time recently) fellow service members.He is a vile human being and in a sane state would never have lived that down.

Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 06:33 AM (zqvg6)

49 That story in the sidebar enrages me.They better move to remove Boehner from leadership asap or we need to completely boycott the GOP.No money,no volunteers,no votes,nothing.

Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 10:23 AM (zqvg6)


Great. Now my blood pressure just skyrocketed and my head hurts. On the plus side, my investment in tar, feather and pitchfork futures looks pretty solid right now.

Posted by: physics geek at March 05, 2014 06:33 AM (MT22W)

50 clueless spoiled asshat

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:33 AM (zOTsN)

51 No, zere iz metric fuckton of Ruzzin troops in ze Ukraine."

- Vladimir Putin (off mic)

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 05, 2014 10:33 AM (4df7R)

 

Since when is Putin French?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 05, 2014 06:33 AM (DrWcr)

52

How any straight man over 30 with a job can identify as a Liberal is beyond me.

 

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 10:33 AM (7ObY1)

 

See, they just care more than you.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 05, 2014 06:34 AM (fwARV)

53 Since when is Putin French?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 05, 2014 10:33 AM (DrWcr)

 

Since it became too hard for me to figure out how to    phonetically evince a Russian accent.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:34 AM (4df7R)

54

There's something to it ... just based on how many prior service guys I know steering their kids away from the military.

 

Including me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 05, 2014 06:34 AM (n3DY5)

55 serving in the infantry in Iraq and Afghanistan hilarious

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:35 AM (zOTsN)

56

It's a perfectly normal DC conversation...real success is passing bills, while military service is something we say nice things about but isn't really of any practical value.

=======================

 

Nicely crafted sentence, 'cause the criticism obviously applies to the "good government" wing of the GOP as well as Democrats.   I blame the Bushes.

Posted by: MTF at March 05, 2014 06:35 AM (B5y+v)

57 16 That story in the sidebar enrages me.They better move to remove Boehner from leadership asap or we need to completely boycott the GOP.No money,no volunteers,no votes,nothing.

Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 10:23 AM (zqvg6)

 

Fuck that spineless, chain-smoking, fake-tanned weasel.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 05, 2014 06:35 AM (DrWcr)

58 I like how he goes on about how the make up of the Senate is so diverse. Sure, diverse in like they have lawyers from almost fifty different states.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 05, 2014 06:36 AM (IV4od)

59 Kinsley gaffe of the first order. This one has extra schadenfreudey sprinkles on it due to the legacy nature of Pryor's own election. I'm just gonna roll around in it for a bit.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 05, 2014 06:36 AM (VtjlW)

60 He's toast. 

Tom - No matter what subject comes up, respond with: "Did you vote for Obamacare?:

Then:  "Did you vote to repeal it?"

Nuff said.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 05, 2014 06:36 AM (Z7PrM)

61 See, they just care more than you. They certainly think so, given the inevitable smug mugs on 'em.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 06:36 AM (7ObY1)

62 Pryor looks like a Margaret Keane painting.

http://www.keane-eyes.com/

Posted by: huerfano at March 05, 2014 06:37 AM (bAGA/)

63 He will go back to Arkansas and backpeddle in Arkansasian.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 05, 2014 06:37 AM (32Ze2)

64 Is Pryor the one that said, during a townhall on Obamacare, "I don't care what's in the constitution."...or was that some other asshat?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at March 05, 2014 06:37 AM (bCEmE)

65 Of the half dozen career officers I know, ( 1 Navy, the rest Air Force) all of them are Obama supporters. Is this a DC area thing? Or, is it a 'high tech career' phenomena?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 05, 2014 06:37 AM (l3vZN)

66 Since it became too hard for me to figure out how to phonetically evince a Russian accent. In Russia, accent phonetically evinces YOU.

Posted by: Yackoff Smirnoff at March 05, 2014 06:37 AM (7ObY1)

67 who you gonna believe, Cotton? Or Pryors rolley polley lying eyes

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:37 AM (zOTsN)

68 Wow, can Pryor look and act more loathsome?  Oh wait, he has not posed with bomb throwing scum.  Or a serial killer.  Yet.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2014 06:38 AM (/8lfu)

69 Is Pryor the one that said, during a townhall on Obamacare, "I don't care what's in the constitution."...or was that some other asshat? Posted by: Tami at March 05, 2014 10:37 AM (bCEmE) Not sure, but that may have been Mother Pelosi. Although it probably didn't happen just once.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 05, 2014 06:38 AM (r+7wo)

70 65 The way they are aggressively purging officers I wouldn't be surprised if they make up the majority.

Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 06:38 AM (zqvg6)

71 Boehner just helping secure His personal power. I don't think these guys have a clue about what is going on outside DC. They can't connect to the joblessness, the costs of trying to scrape up the dough for Obamacare, or that Many of their own do Not want the or admire the Govts overreach into our wombs.So who exactly are their Voters?

Posted by: willow at March 05, 2014 06:38 AM (nqBYe)

72 Pryor crimes. As if either producing or (gasp) passing bills is OF ITSELF a "good" thing. Consider ACA, The Patriot Act, etc. As if all we need are MORE LAWS!!!! Just what the cherry pickers need, a flood of laws to choose arbitrarily which to enforce and whom to prosecute according to their own prejudices. Sometimes it takes heroes to defeat bills that spell D-I-S-A-S-T-E-R. ...and it isn't just Democrats promoting more laws as "proof" of a politician's validity for the times. I remember the 'acid reflux for all' Mitt Romney supporters' rancor against Fred Thompson for POTUS because teh Fred didn't "achieve" a long string of bills that were passed into law. What he did implement was the bill that requires government employees to be competent with skills/training intact, and judged on job performance of job description. That trumps MittCare Hands Down.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 05, 2014 06:38 AM (MhA4j)

73 Of the half dozen career officers I know, ( 1 Navy, the rest Air Force) all of them are Obama supporters. Is this a DC area thing? Or, is it a 'high tech career' phenomena? Posted by: Jinx the Cat are they or were they operators? or are they computer guys?

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:38 AM (zOTsN)

74 because he served in Afghanistan and Iraq. In other words, Mark Pryor worked to have his vote tossed. The nerve of those military!

Posted by: t-bird at March 05, 2014 06:39 AM (FcR7P)

75 Since it became too hard for me to figure out how to phonetically evince a Russian accent. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 05, 2014 10:34 AM (4df7R) *nudges this over and lays it at your feet* http://bit.ly/1c9cwGG

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 05, 2014 06:40 AM (VtjlW)

76

I'm just gonna roll around in it for a bit.


 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 05, 2014 10:36 AM (VtjlW)

 

 

While wearing the stompy boots?

 

Asking on behalf of the 'Rons.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:40 AM (4df7R)

77 SMOD to pass within 20k miles of earth today.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 05, 2014 06:41 AM (BZAd3)

78 One was a sub captain, two are in missile programs, in command roles and went to the Academy. The others I don't know enough about what they do to comment. Not sure what you mean as 'operators'.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 05, 2014 06:42 AM (l3vZN)

79 My tweet summary of the IRS hearing today: Lois Lerner gives Congress the finger, Elijah Cummings attempts to moon Darrell Issa. Issa tells Cummings to pull his pants up.

Posted by: Votermom at March 05, 2014 06:42 AM (GSIDW)

80 77 SMOD to pass within 20k miles of earth today.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 05, 2014 10:41 AM (BZAd3)


Goddam tease.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 06:42 AM (RD7QR)

81 There's a whole shitload of Dems who've run for office citing their military service as a qualification. Posted by: RoyalOil at March 05, 2014 10:26 AM (VjL9S) Damn right man, and why not! I flew combat aircraft in Nam man! Viet freaking Nam! I know the horror of war, the sting of battle, and the fear man! So why shouldn't I cite my glorious war record!?

Posted by: Sen. Tom Harkin, DemonRat-IA at March 05, 2014 06:42 AM (LKJt3)

82

That story in the sidebar enrages me.They better move to remove Boehner from leadership asap or we need to completely boycott the GOP.No money,no volunteers,no votes,nothing.

Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 10:23 AM (zqvg6)

 

 

Countdown to   Boehner   saying he was   taken out    of context in   5... 4... 3...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:42 AM (4df7R)

83 Posted by: steevy at March 05, 2014 10:23 AM (zqvg6) Not that it would be any different but you might want to read the interview transcript. A summary of a summary by a critic of Bohner might not be the best way to disseminate information. At least that's how the left gets their info and facts. We should be different if only to confirm what we suspect.

Posted by: Nick Ovtyme at March 05, 2014 06:43 AM (Kz9dH)

84 I have the hat.

Posted by: John F'in Kerry at March 05, 2014 06:43 AM (5OEha)

85 For AlextheChick, the extended Snickers Godzilla commercial
http://youtu.be/0Q38lx674Hs

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2014 06:44 AM (/8lfu)

86 *nudges this over and lays it at your feet*

http://bit.ly/1c9cwGG

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 05, 2014 10:40 AM (VtjlW)

 

 

O_O

 

*nosepress*

 

O_____O

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:44 AM (4df7R)

87 We could pick up maybe 12 seats if we're lucky.

Then the fun begins.. Pass repeal Obamacare in the Senate and the House and pass it on to Obama.  He'll veto it, but it is him who will be working against the voice of the people.

Pass immigration reforms piece by piece with biometric ID's, registration and a border fence being the first bill.  If Obama vetoes it, it's all on him.

Pass a better budget, and make Obama be the one to shut down the government.

Then, impeach the bastard.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 05, 2014 06:44 AM (Z7PrM)

88

SMOD to pass within 20k miles of earth today.


 

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 05, 2014 10:41 AM (BZAd3)

 

 

Is it going to disappear again like last time?  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:44 AM (4df7R)

89 sending some Borscht soup To MWR. trying to help

Posted by: willow at March 05, 2014 06:44 AM (nqBYe)

90 Just read sidebar article. In keeping with my commitment to avoid profanity, I'll just say Boehner has to go. Ugh. He really couldn't care less about his constituents or his country. He's basically giving the base the finger. (Assuming the article is accurate.)

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 05, 2014 06:45 AM (r+7wo)

91 84 I have the hat.

Posted by: John F'in Kerry at March 05, 2014 10:43 AM (5OEha)


And it's every bit as magical as your diplomatic skills, Jawn.

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 06:45 AM (RD7QR)

92 Lois Lerner gives Congress the finger, Elijah Cummings attempts to moon Darrell Issa.
Issa tells Cummings to pull his pants up.

 

Posted by: Votermom at March 05, 2014 10:42 AM (GSIDW)

 

Pants on the ground!  Pants on the ground!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 05, 2014 06:45 AM (zF6Iw)

93 I served lunch in Vietnam once.

Posted by: Secretary Kerry at March 05, 2014 06:46 AM (Aif/5)

94 Posted by: panzernashorn at March 05, 2014 10:38 AM (MhA4j) Of course you fail to mention Fred's advocacy for McCain-Feingold.

Posted by: Nick Ovtyme at March 05, 2014 06:46 AM (Kz9dH)

95 One was a sub captain, two are in missile programs, in command roles and went to the Academy. The others I don't know enough about what they do to comment. Not sure what you mean as 'operators'. Posted by: Jinx the Cat operators means flyers or commanders who go to combat not support techs, computer guys, or even missile guys. Not guys who don't deploy. Not medical, not chaplain, not JAG. Not personnel. Not "shoe clerks". command means nothing if it is not a fighter/bomber wing

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:46 AM (zOTsN)

96 Staffer 1: Quick we need to something to make Cotton look bad. Staffer 2: Let's go with racism. Staffer 1: Ok. But what do we have? Staffer 2: Nothing. Obviously. I got it. We'll make this up. "Cotton campaigns for black vote. Wants blacks to pick Cotton." Staffer 1: Brilliant! **clinks Guiness bottles**

Posted by: Mark Pryor campaign at March 05, 2014 06:47 AM (WEuad)

97 Jinxie,
In the AF, the RIFs took their tolls on us more opinionated officers.  I'm sure a lot has to do with the corporatist, DC-influence among the backshop Non-Sortie Producers.  I doubt there's much of that among the operational Air Force.  There's also an overlap with the Millennial mindset.   

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 05, 2014 06:47 AM (Ec6wH)

98 And it's every bit as magical as your diplomatic skills, Jawn.

Jean Francois Cary is magically delicious?  Eeewww!!!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2014 06:47 AM (/8lfu)

99 Why is he so intent on Amnesty??? Oh, it's the one thing he and Obama agree on. Who cares? And shouldn't you think twice if you agree with Obama on anything? Obama has been incredibly ungracious and insulting to Boehner and Repubs in public, yet Boehner keeps asking for more.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 05, 2014 06:47 AM (r+7wo)

100 sending some Borscht soup To MWR.

trying to help

Posted by: willow at March 05, 2014 10:44 AM (nqBYe)

 

Da, comrade.   Spasiba.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:47 AM (4df7R)

101 I don't think Hillary comparing Putin to Hitler is a very good idea.

Posted by: Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 06:48 AM (6Nj7A)

102 Nick Ovtyme you were loving on Dewhurst too, right?

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:48 AM (zOTsN)

103 He obviously won't cotton to cotton.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 05, 2014 06:48 AM (4IfHt)

104 So exactly just what the fuckity fuck happened this morning with the traitor Lerner?  What the fuck?  She comes back only to give them finger again?   Why?

Posted by: jewells45 at March 05, 2014 06:49 AM (l/N7H)

105 Is it going to disappear again like last time? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 05, 2014 10:44 AM (4df7R) And then reappear and then disappear and then reappear....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2014 06:50 AM (da5Wo)

106 I don't think Hillary comparing Putin to Hitler is a very good idea. Posted by: Judge Pug at March 05, 2014 10:48 AM (6Nj7A) Constitutes unnecessary bear poking.

Posted by: Beagle at March 05, 2014 06:50 AM (sOtz/)

107 Pryor premise: if it's not on my resume, it is irrelevant. Having served in our nation's Military was the only credential that McCain had when carpetbagging AZ Congressional election. That compounded by POW public sentiments. Having served his own self interests from a cushy distance while in Vietnam was Kerry's claim to infamy that launched his political career, tossing someone else's medals away in affectation. Nonetheless, the willingness to serve our nation, and the EXPERIENCE of having provided our nation with service, laying life limb and mind on the line of combat, is testament to one's intestinal fortitude as witnessed by one's comrades in combat. You don't even GET to serve in the Military without having survived boot camp. Pussy Mark Pryor couldn't make it through any boot camp. If he didn't throw in the towel, he'd prove himself another Pvt. Leonard 'Gomer Pyle' Lawrence, Full Metal Jacket. ...his mommy didn't love him...enough.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 05, 2014 06:50 AM (MhA4j)

108 It certainly is refreshing to hear a democrat say something so stupid. Normally, this would be one our guys, but with some Satan references and plug for outlawing contraception.

Posted by: jwest at March 05, 2014 06:51 AM (u2a4R)

109 do not want to see Hillary shirtless riding a bear just saying

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:51 AM (zOTsN)

110 Speaking of yet another 'success' from Jean Francois Cary, Israel seizes a ship full of Iranian rockets off Gaza.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4495487,00.html

Iranian ship falsely flying another country's flag.  International law, that Global Test thing, says that is a very big no-no.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2014 06:51 AM (/8lfu)

111 I like the part where he laughed at the notion that military service is a qualification.

Oh, and what about the dickweed whose only qualification for his House seat was that he was screwing around with a grenade and blew his arm and legs off?

'Member how the leftists loved to roll him about as "A-1 Grade, #1 Expert on all things military?*"


*a/k/a--anyone with any sort of military experience at all who would criticize Bush when he was President.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 05, 2014 06:51 AM (VjL9S)

112 The Navy guy I can understand, because they've always had that 'cult of the ship' sort of streak in them that makes them a bit off the wall. The others tend to be a bit younger than I, in their early to mid 40's so perhaps are a bit more lefty than I. It is probably a combination of DC and age.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 05, 2014 06:51 AM (l3vZN)

113 Tami, the guy you're thinking of is Phil Hare, ex-Congressrat from Illinois and another scumfucker who lied about his military service.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 05, 2014 06:51 AM (P1Tw6)

114

And then reappear and then disappear and then reappear....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 05, 2014 10:50 AM (da5Wo)

 

 

...

 

OMG!   The  troll   Inter Galactic   is actually    this   SMOD-pretender!   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:51 AM (4df7R)

115

65: "Of the half dozen career officers I know, ( 1 Navy, the rest Air Force) all of them are Obama supporters.

Is this a DC area thing? Or, is it a 'high tech career' phenomena?"

 

Eliteism attracts elitists. Especially when these "elites" have few real competancies. 

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at March 05, 2014 06:51 AM (/qzu7)

116 For AlextheChick, the extended Snickers Godzilla commercial http://youtu.be/0Q38lx674Hs Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2014 10:44 AM (/8lfu) That. Is. Awesome. Oh SMOD, why dost thou taunt us so? And, yeah, the whole oh hey ummm so we lost that asteroid just thought you should know thing last time wasn't worrisome at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 05, 2014 06:51 AM (VtjlW)

117 Smart diplomacy. Comparing a leader we're in a tense situation with to Hitler.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 05, 2014 06:52 AM (Aif/5)

118 Not even going to read the Boner link. I've had enough of that mewling cunt to last me a lifetime.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 05, 2014 06:52 AM (n3DY5)

119 The others tend to be a bit younger than I, in their early to mid 40's so perhaps are a bit more lefty than I. It is probably a combination of DC and age. Posted by: Jinx the if they are in their mid 40s and in DC they are not operators

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:52 AM (zOTsN)

120 Imagine the shit the NSA has on Boehner. When you're a drinker like that, you inevitably do stupid stuff.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 05, 2014 06:53 AM (A98Xu)

121 Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 10:48 AM (zOTsN) Doesn't matter to me if you would rather be ignorant in favor of ranting on the Internet. Anything other than knee jerk reaction of hate equates to loving because.. fuck you that's why. You gotta love the Internet.

Posted by: Nick Ovtyme at March 05, 2014 06:53 AM (Kz9dH)

122 do not want to see Hillary shirtless riding a bear just saying Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 10:51 AM (zOTsN) Soooooo. Anyone have an icepick I can borrow to hack that image out of my brain?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 05, 2014 06:54 AM (VtjlW)

123 What did Hillary "We Came We Saw He Died" Clinton say this time?

Posted by: Votermom at March 05, 2014 06:54 AM (GSIDW)

124 I have known 3 ex-Navy sub captains in civilian life.  Two were complete screaming assholes.  The third didn't stay around long enough for a rating.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 05, 2014 06:54 AM (T2V/1)

125 Smart diplomacy. Comparing a leader we're in a tense situation with to Hitler.

 

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 05, 2014 10:52 AM (Aif/5)

 

 

You mean the guy you hit the "RESET" button with, Cankles?  

 

She's a swell judge of character, huh?   Bashar al Assad is a "reformer," and   Putin's Russia deserved a reset.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:54 AM (4df7R)

126 Doesn't matter to me if you would rather be ignorant in favor of ranting on the Internet. Anything other than knee jerk reaction of hate equates to loving because.. fuck you that's why. You gotta love the Internet. Posted by: Nick Ovtyme hey I did not rant. At all. just taking your pulse. you mad?

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:54 AM (zOTsN)

127 "In keeping with my commitment to avoid profanity, I'll just say Boehner has to go. Ugh. He really couldn't care less about his constituents or his country. He's basically giving the base the finger."

Right now there needs to be a simple test for all Republicans running for the house. Will you support Boehner as Speaker next session. If you say anything other then no, we shouldn't support them.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 05, 2014 06:55 AM (IV4od)

128 OMG! The troll Inter Galactic is actually this SMOD-pretender! -- proof that God has a sense of humor.

Posted by: Votermom at March 05, 2014 06:55 AM (GSIDW)

129 Come at me bro.

Posted by: Hector at March 05, 2014 06:55 AM (Aif/5)

130

Oh SMOD, why dost thou taunt us so?

 

*Fist bumps scorpion*

Posted by: SMOD at March 05, 2014 06:56 AM (NF2Bf)

131 79 My tweet summary of the IRS hearing today: Lois Lerner gives Congress the finger, Elijah Cummings attempts to moon Darrell Issa. Issa tells Cummings to pull his pants up. Pure poetry. Thanks for the laugh! Needed it today.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 05, 2014 06:56 AM (7ObY1)

132 Ace up

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 05, 2014 06:56 AM (T2V/1)

133 Considering what has happened to this country in the last 5 years, it is just as logical to suggest that Barky et al have been engaged in a fascist march. Remember his suggestion that there be established “a civilian police to match the size and power of our armed forces.” Gestapo anyone? Where was the press? Then, in 2011 Obama advocated enlarging the U.S. Marshal’s Service into a “stability police.” Scary shit, and yet the media remain(ed) mute.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 05, 2014 06:56 AM (aDwsi)

134 And, yeah, the whole oh hey ummm so we lost that asteroid just thought you should know thing last time wasn't worrisome at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 05, 2014 10:51 AM (VtjlW)

 

It's   one of those  "Made you   look!" moments,   but     with    greater opportunity for    planetary destruction.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at March 05, 2014 06:56 AM (4df7R)

135 *hands AlextheChick the mental floss and 50 gallons of Brain Bleach*

Then there is Transformers 4
http://youtu.be/ubGpDoyJvmI

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 05, 2014 06:57 AM (/8lfu)

136 Soooooo. Anyone have an icepick I can borrow to hack that image out of my brain?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 05, 2014 10:54 AM (VtjlW)


Yeah, I visualize Hillary's tits acting as earmuffs for the bear. (Or perhaps you didn't want that in your brain?)

Posted by: joncelli at March 05, 2014 06:57 AM (RD7QR)

137 Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 10:54 AM (zOTsN) Yeah that's all you were doing. Can't even be honest with yourself. You may return to your rants.

Posted by: Nick Ovtyme at March 05, 2014 06:58 AM (Kz9dH)

138 Nick Ovtyme you just seem really invested in Dewhurst and Boehner so I asked calm down

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:58 AM (zOTsN)

139 show me where I ranted about Dewhurst or Boehner. bring it

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 06:59 AM (zOTsN)

140 The only reason Pryor is even a Senator was because his Republican opponent had an affair with his intern and married her.  Arkansas was incredibly stupid to put a liberal Democrat in the Senate over that, but you're talking about the same state that bought Bill Clinton's act.

Also agree that Republicans need to be better about playing the game when it comes to blue states, but sometimes dingbat conservatives won't let them.  Democrats know they can get 90% of what they want from these imposters, why can't we understand that.

Posted by: McAdams at March 05, 2014 06:59 AM (+nA84)

141 It certainly is refreshing to hear a democrat say something so stupid. Normally, this would be one our guys, but with some Satan references and plug for outlawing contraception. Posted by: jwest at March 05, 2014 10:51 AM (u2a4R) Dems say stupid things every freaking day. But, one or 2 of our guys says something stupid and then it's the end of the world. Although perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on the media. After all, Dem stupidity must be like ambient noise by now.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 05, 2014 06:59 AM (r+7wo)

142 65 Of the half dozen career officers I know, ( 1 Navy, the rest Air Force) all of them are Obama supporters. Still? After all this time? I guess they're just bureaucrats in many ways. Obama definitely feeds the prejudices of the class that thinks itself educated. He has a lot of career baristas thinking they're part of the upper middle class, that's for sure. Republicans are the cutters. Obama is the one who says "borrow from future generations and give to the government". We're feeling the secondary effects of demographic decline: * An electorate (and governing class) with profound daddy issues. Between single motherhood and rampant divorce, daddy doesn't have a defined role anymore and our youth are suffering the consequences. Clinton had a nonexistent father. Obama had a father who actively ignored the son who bore his name. Even though GWBush had a larger-than-life dad, he seemed extremely well-adjusted to it. * A population uninterested in the future. Many many more people do not have children and a lot of our political class do not have families either. It's getting harder to tell people that we're in for a disaster because their kids will be broke. They don't have kids. One ray of light, though, the collapse will happen while us Gen Xer childless sacks of greed are thinking about retirement. * Perpetual childhood. 26-year-old kids is just a tip of this iceberg. We all think of ourselves as kids, in part because we can entertain ourselves perpetually and have very few genuine responsibilities to others. * A lack of desire to do hard work. This is a very direct parallel to the Roman empire. Everybody wants to live a life of leisure (even in poverty) and since they don't have kids, they'll settle for fun and mediocre wealth. They care more about an environment that they'll never see because they won't leave the city. They want to import a class of slave labor. Yeah, they couch it in terms of noblesse oblige, but Alex Sink gave the game away. It's all about importing ersatz slaves.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 05, 2014 07:00 AM (T0NGe)

143 I'll wait

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 07:00 AM (zOTsN)

144 I read the original article. The summary is correct. Boehner wants immigration reform and an Obamacare fix, not repeal. He also cooks his own breakfast. All in his own words.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 05, 2014 07:00 AM (P1Tw6)

145 gonna be here a while I guess

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 07:02 AM (zOTsN)

146 Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 10:58 AM (zOTsN) As soon as you show me how I'm invested in Bohner or loving Dewhurst. You tried to make a smart ass implication and now you don't want to own it. Typical.

Posted by: Nick Ovtyme at March 05, 2014 07:02 AM (Kz9dH)

147 couldn't find anything could you

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 07:04 AM (zOTsN)

148 107. Not only that, but look what Hillary did to Egypt and to LIBYA! "We came, we saw, we killed, bwahahahahaha!" It wasn't enough to kill everyone and destroy the powers in place. Total chaos must rule. All must die, even the survivors must kill each other in vain efforts to yet survive. (As if the next round of bombings won't arrive on cue.) THAT Hitlerian-Clintonian sensationalism is nothing attributable to Putin. Also, as stated yesterday, Putin is unlike both Hitler and Stalin in that he has conducted no genocides, no pogroms, no millions of civilian deaths at his command. (Right, he's no Gandhi, either.) But his efforts are spent developing rather than destroying infrastructures -- yes, for Russia's advantages, of course. Nothing in life is "free" even in Communism. Whereas Hillary? Hell. Show where she hasn't conducted utter treachery. She's been proven the fool, but being herself insulated, has YET to utterly rue the day she ever posed to "reset" on stage with Russia. No one need hold their breath waiting. But when it comes, we'll all end up needing to take cover because of HER.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 05, 2014 07:04 AM (MhA4j)

149 I was taken out of context in that report. And I was shit-eyed drunk, as usual.

Posted by: John "Deeply Closeted" Boehner at March 05, 2014 07:05 AM (JQuNB)

150 Boner also cooks his own breakfast. Bloody Mary

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 05, 2014 07:06 AM (MhA4j)

151 I also don't like Dewhurst only because of the way he ran his campaign against Cruz. That said I cannot deny he has done a great job as Lt Gov. Needless to say I hope he prevails. Again I think it's in the hands of Cruz. Posted by: Nick Ovtyme at love is in the air......

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 07:07 AM (zOTsN)

152 Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 11:07 AM (zOTsN) Thanks for posting that to show just how stupid you are.

Posted by: Nick Ovtyme at March 05, 2014 07:11 AM (Kz9dH)

153 94. Posted by: Nick Ovtyme at March 05, 2014 10:46 AM (Kz9dH) Wall Street Journal, editor March 18, 2007 "Fred Thompson on Taxes, McCain-Feingold, Iraq" Many on the right remain angry Mr. Thompson supported the campaign finance law sponsored by his friend, John McCain. “There are problems with people giving politicians large sums of money and then asking them to pass legislation,” Mr. Thompson says. Still, he notes he proposed the amendment to raise the $1,000 per person “hard money” federal contribution limit. Conceding that McCain-Feingold hasn’t worked as intended, and is being riddled with new loopholes, he throws his hands open in exasperation. “I’m not prepared to go there yet, but I wonder if we shouldn’t just take off the limits and have full disclosure with harsh penalties for not reporting everything on the Internet immediately.” http://tinyurl.com/mbbt32e you were saying?

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 05, 2014 07:12 AM (MhA4j)

154 wow more name calling. You have really bolstered your argument. I did not recognize your nic and recalled you really liked Dewhurst and then you show up on this thread defending Boehner from his own words. Just taking your pulse, as I said. Now I got it no ranting no name calling

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 07:13 AM (zOTsN)

155 now I showed your support for Dewhurst you show me the ranting and raving and hate you saw from me again I'll wait

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 07:15 AM (zOTsN)

156 4 minute pause long enough, Nick. dead thread

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 05, 2014 07:16 AM (MhA4j)

157 It's a perfectly normal DC conversation...real success is passing bills, while military service is something we say nice things about but isn't really of any practical value.

Drew, this is a perfect parallel to the point you brought up in this week's "Ace Minus Ace" podcast in discussing the fact that while we've increasingly relied on immigrant labor to do the "jobs Americans don't want to do", there's perhaps a real benefit in the long run in getting your fingernails dirty, earning minimum (or close to it) in a starter job, so that you ingrain in yourself, in your education, lessons of hard work to avoid making that your life's work.

One could say that for Senator Pryor, the opposite is true: that the entitlement of being a sitting United States Senator has made him forget the people at the ends of the fancy legislative levers he pushes, people like (soon-to-be) Senator Cotton.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at March 05, 2014 07:17 AM (BvTwT)

158 Maybe Pryor subscribes to the belief the military is just another form of welfare payments.  I've heard it expressed by other Democrats. 

Posted by: no good deed at March 05, 2014 07:19 AM (vBhbc)

159 Everyone but you can see your passive aggressive comments. You must be a joy,

Posted by: Nick Ovtyme at March 05, 2014 07:21 AM (Kz9dH)

160 do not want to see Hillary shirtless riding a bear


just saying

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 10:51 AM (zOTsN)

 

Her titties would be dragging on the ground.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 05, 2014 07:22 AM (DrWcr)

161 Get over your butt hurt. Own your own opinions.

Posted by: thunderb at March 05, 2014 07:26 AM (zOTsN)

162
Jinxie,
In the AF, the RIFs took their tolls on us more opinionated officers. I'm sure a lot has to do with the corporatist, DC-influence among the backshop Non-Sortie Producers. I doubt there's much of that among the operational Air Force. There's also an overlap with the Millennial mindset.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 05, 2014 10:47 AM (Ec6wH)









Somehow I get the feeling that the A-10 squadrons are hotbeds of conservatism filled with right-wing death beast USAF officers. Which is why the 'Hog has to die.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 05, 2014 07:28 AM (TIIx5)

163 A very good part of that clip is that "Lean Forward" was scrolling across the top of the screen as the Commie was saying his propaganda.

Posted by: Jay in PA at March 05, 2014 07:35 AM (3LaGb)

164 Well, if anyone knows about entitlements it would be a fucking democrat now wouldn't it?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 05, 2014 07:48 AM (HVff2)

165 Us Dems don't think military service is all that important we like our candidates to have more relevant experience such as first lady or comedian/Air America host.

Posted by: The Honorable senator Pryor at March 05, 2014 08:51 AM (8mJcI)

166 Considering he holds this seat almost solely because he is a nepotism hire (ie, his daddy was Senator Pryor first), that is awfully rich.

Posted by: Lea at March 05, 2014 11:18 AM (lIU4e)

167 I am SO glad I get to vote for Tom Cotton this year!

Posted by: Mr_Write at March 05, 2014 06:26 PM (Jnqac)

168 Don't I recall that some Democrat veteran Senator from Georgia had a right to his Senate seat because he was a veteran? 

Posted by: Federale (@Federale86) at March 06, 2014 08:42 AM (I+4FK)

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