April 17, 2021
— Ace Open Blog
Color
In the mid-aughts at Virginia Tech I took a handful of classes with the late Stephen Prince, a film scholar with a particular focus on Kurosawa (along with others). One of the courses I took with him was a survey course of the history of movies, and he started the first class by stating one of his primary objectives: to convince us that black and white was beautiful.
My generation had never grown up in a world where black and white film was normal. Black and white films were either old or special projects that were more art-house than blockbuster. We weren't conditioned to see black and white film as just another way to tell cinematic stories. Instead, we were conditioned to see them as inherently different and, often, inferior.
The movement from black and white to color film as the standard in movie making took decades. It wasn't like sound where The Jazz Singer caused a huge sensation and within five years ever studio was exclusively making talkies. Color had existed since the earliest days of motion pictures, but it was an incredibly expensive and laborious process to get even short films by someone like Melies colored. Black and white was the standard out of necessity, and it can take a lot to get people out of their ways.
Standards
We see things in color. We open our eyes and are greeted by the greens of trees, the blue of the sky, and the red hair of gingers everywhere. It's the natural state, so it's interesting that, by and large, black and white ended up being considered more realistic and color film was considered more fantastical. That can extend all the way back to Melies, I think.
Below is the entirety of the film The General by Buster Keaton. An action comedy from 1926, it tells a rip-roaring tale of a Confederate train engineer who must sneak across enemy lines to rescue his girl and bring her back, all by using his beloved General, his train engine. In terms of action-spectacles, it's a realistic approach to the material, relying heavily on Buster Keaton's own embrace of the physical production with real trains and real stunts (most often involving himself). It's also in black and white. For a movie concerned with realism, it starts stylized and stays stylized in black and white the whole time.
Below is another full film, this time from 1903, The Kingdom of the Fairies by Georges Melies. Every cell has been hand tinted to provide a panoply of color. It's the story of a king who must travel to save his queen who had been stolen by some kind of troll. He has visions, sails the oceans, must travel in the belly of a whale, scale mountains, and eventually save his bride from a burning building. There's no remote semblance of realism here, and it's full of color.
Expenses
Cost has a lot to do with art in general. A poor artist isn't going to sculpt in marble and a poor studio isn't going to hire Technicolor cameras.
The technical process of getting color film is an interesting journey with several aborted attempts here and there, often involved using multiple cameras and multiple projectors, combining differently color-tinted strips of film into one, usually unrealistic, depiction of color. The first company to figure out how to get it all done in one package was Technicolor. Their three-strip process involved a highly specialized camera that used three different strips of film, tinted by colored filters (green, magenta, and blue), directed by prisms, diffusing the light at each filter the light passed through, only allowing a third of the amount of light seen to pass onto each strip. This meant that Technicolor films had to be filmed under extremely bright lights.
So, a single camera color process was born, but it was bulky, required a lot of money for the proper lighting, and Technicolor didn't even sell the cameras. They rented the cameras out, and any studio that rented the cameras had to take Technicolor technicians and specialists who mandated certain processes. This was not a cheap thing. You couldn't go outside and shoot a street scene really quickly. You had build large sets, light them extensively, and work almost exclusively inside. The most famous example of Technicolor is The Wizard of Oz, and I just want to take a quick moment to talk about the transition to color scene.
That shot is wonderfully deceptive in how they accomplished the in-camera transition. It goes from that sepia tone to full-fledged color without a cut. They did that by painting the inside of the house to reflect the sepia tone as it would look through the specific results of the three-strip process, including the makeup and dress of the Dorothy double who starts the scene. She falls out of frame, and Judy Garland walks in, dressed in color to match the color of the wonderful world of Oz.
This also touches on the stylistic differences between black and white and color. The black and white portions of The Wizard of Oz are the grungy reality of Dust-Bowl Kansas with pig sties, chicken coops, and the run down wagon of Mr. Marvel, the conman with a heart of gold who sends Dorothy back home instead of taking advantage of a young woman running away. The color is the fantastical world that opens with the land of the Munchkins and witches who travel by bubble and magical ruby slippers. The "realistic" portions looked inherently unrealistic, and the "unrealistic" portions looked inherently realistic. Doing that sort of transition today would make little sense, and you'd have to reverse it for the same kind of fantastical feeling.
Acceptance
It took decades for color to become normal in films, but it was Eastman Kodak that actually created the tipping point. The bulky, cumbersome process of filming in Technicolor (including the lights which put the set of The Wizard of Oz at temperatures of over one hundred degrees) was never the sort of thing that was going to be used on anything but very large productions. This wasn't like sound where, outside of the initial cost of equipment that studios could buy, things got easier. There was only one way to do color, and it was expensive.
Then comes Eastman Kodak with Eastmancolor. Steadily being developed over decades (first released for 16mm film in 1935), Kodak released the 35mm studio quality version in 1950. Four years later, the last American feature film made with the three-strip Technicolor process was made (<u>Foxfire</u>), and the industry moved on.
Eastmancolor was the magic bullet. It was the single strip color process that allowed studios to use traditional processing rather than the expensive processing necessary for Technicolor films.
In 1936, the Academy awarded special honorary Oscars to a select film for color photography (The Garden of Allah). By 1939 it was it's own category, the Academy giving out regular awards for Black and White cinematography as well as Color cinematography. By 1967, the two sub-categories had been combined into just Best Cinematography (Haskell Wexler winning for Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe? in 1966).
After a time, it became as effectively cheap to shoot low budget films in color as in black and white and the use of black and white became a purely stylistic choice removed from the financial considerations of filmmaking outside of the smallest of productions. The reduced cost of production in color morphed the artistic choice from using it expensively in more fantastical settings to the more mundane realities of day to day.
Ironically, one reason to pick black and white now is to provide a grittier reality to a film. Steven Spielberg used black and white inSchindler's List because he wanted to, as he said, remove anything of beauty from the film's aesthetic. Ironically, Schindler's List ended up winning the Best Cinematography Oscar in due to the beauty of the black and white images.
It was all an accident
If film had been developed first and foremost to output color images instead of shades of white, gray, and black, what would cinema have looked like over its hundred years? Would we ever have had black and white as a stylistic choice at all?
I have no idea, but the accident of black and white cinematography led to some indelible images that are intimately tied to the deep black shadows of the form.
Movies of Today
Coming to Theaters:
In the EarthMovies I Saw This Fortnight:
X2: X-Men United (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Perfectly well acted by everyone, in particular Brian Cox as Stryker, it’s a fun adventure movie with a strong central throughline to hang most of the movie off of." [Personal Collection]
X-Men: Days of Future Past (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "This is comic book filmmaking on a grand scale, and while it may not be perfect, it’s really enjoyable." [Personal Collection]
Deadpool (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Reynolds takes the Merc with the Mouth from the comic book to the silver screen with a rapid fire set of quips that sometimes become quite witty from time to time that elevates the pedestrian origin story into a solidly entertaining one." [Personal Collection]
Logan (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "That it wants to be taken seriously makes this all the more frustrating because there is a very good movie hidden in here. It’s just not this." [Personal Collection]
The New Mutants (Rating 0.5/4) Full Review Not only is the movie inept, but it’s boring." [Library]
Oblivion (Rating 3/4) Full Review "This is a solid science fiction tale, well acted, well designed, and well told. It’s not great, and it could have been more than it is now, but it’s solidly good." [Personal Collection]
American Psycho (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "What makes the movie, though, is its sense of humor and outrageousness. Outrageousness alone gets old, but mixed with that black humor and it gains a certain shelf life where even decades after its release, American Psycho can still entertain." [Personal Collection]
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Posted by: Corner Stone at April 17, 2021 07:57 PM (/x+Eb)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 07:57 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 07:59 PM (6Hjyp)
I also think directors had to spend a bit more thought on framing a shot, when shooting black and white.
Black & White seems like a simple medium, but, much more complex to get right.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:00 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:01 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2021 08:01 PM (XDC5a)
You sure can tell that when some modern vids try BW but pale in comparison.
Posted by: Corner Stone at April 17, 2021 08:01 PM (/x+Eb)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 08:01 PM (4l77G)
And yeah, "Logan" was a good film trying to escape from a bad one.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:02 PM (2SdPm)
It brought things home and also demystified them to a large extent. Not unlike the WWI film from Peter Jackson.
As an 'artistic' medium, B&W is just as good as color. For History, I think color is far superior.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:02 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2021 08:04 PM (Cxk7w)
13 BW expertise was at its height then however.Supposedly the Snyder cut also has a version in B&W. I know Ghost of Tsushima (video game set in Japan) has a 'Kurisawa' mode in B&W.
You sure can tell that when some modern vids try BW but pale in comparison.Posted by: Corner Stone at April 17, 2021 08:01 PM (/x+Eb)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:05 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Corner Stone at April 17, 2021 08:05 PM (/x+Eb)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:02 PM (lmikk)
"They Shall Not Grow Old" springs to mind. Colorized black & white. I don't think it would have had the same punch, had they just left it in the original black & white format.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:06 PM (2SdPm)
'Hitler's Nazi Weekend- In Color!'
A Quinn Martin Production!
This is the History Channel I miss the most - Nazi werewolves, humanzees, and secret Antarctic bases.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2021 08:06 PM (Dc2NZ)
The colors popped on that one
Posted by: Zeera laying low in the boondocks at April 17, 2021 08:06 PM (0pv1a)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:06 PM (lmikk)
Posted by:Skipat April 17, 2021 08:04 PM (Cxk7w)
Silence in a film is the worst!More talking!
Don't stop talking!
Posted by: Paul Fieg at April 17, 2021 08:06 PM (Ojki1)
Fascinating.
I took a B&W still class for science guys in college where we developed our own film and prints. Did a lot of high-speed stuff too. What a blast.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 17, 2021 08:07 PM (Rvt88)
Posted by: Game of Thrones Writers at April 17, 2021 08:07 PM (kTF2Z)
23 Watched 'Guys and Dolls' the other night.All of those movies did. Ben Hur is a great example.
The colors popped on that onePosted by: Zeera laying low in the boondocks at April 17, 2021 08:06 PM (0pv1a)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:07 PM (lmikk)
A US-PRC team let grow for 20 days Human/monkey chimeras, So the humanzees are probably not far off to fight China's wars.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2021 08:08 PM (XDC5a)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2021 08:08 PM (Pm0A7)
Posted by:Anna Pumaat April 17, 2021 08:01 PM (XDC5a)
============Scorsese's The Aviator replicated the results of the two-strip Technicolor process for all the scenes set in the early Hollywood days before the release of Hell's Angels. There are supposed to be sequences in Howard Hawks' second movie, Fig Leaves, but the colored film was lost and all that's left is the black and white version.
I like the weird tones of two-strip Technicolor. It's so distinct.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:09 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by:Game of Thrones Writersat April 17, 2021 08:07 PM (kTF2Z)
==========I understood that reference.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:09 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:10 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2021 08:11 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 08:12 PM (XZMrE)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 08:12 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by:Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employeeat April 17, 2021 08:12 PM (XZMrE)
=========Speaking of Riseborough, I also watched (and reviewed) Possessor.
She's much less pleasing to the eyes in that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:12 PM (LvTSG)
this may be a better poat for the Book thread. But, I typed it out, so there.
And, BTW, I loathe the movies. And I mean LOATHE.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 08:13 PM (4l77G)
Posted by: BEN ROETHLESSBERGER at April 17, 2021 08:13 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2021 08:13 PM (XDC5a)
Posted by:BEN ROETHLESSBERGERat April 17, 2021 08:13 PM (kTF2Z)
============
I get it now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:13 PM (LvTSG)
And, BTW, I loathe the movies. And I mean LOATHE.I liked the first one, was Ok with the second and hated the third.Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 08:13 PM (4l77G)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:15 PM (lmikk)
He shipped out shortly thereafter and was later killed, sunk off of Guadalcanal by the Japs in 1942.
Watching that film knowing my mom and her brother enjoyed it always made me happy.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2021 08:15 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at April 17, 2021 08:15 PM (Y1kPm)
Posted by:Joe XiDenat April 17, 2021 08:15 PM (Y1kPm)
=========I'm genuinely curious as to why. Could you explain?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:16 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by:Aetius451ADat April 17, 2021 08:16 PM (lmikk)
========If you don't you'll die! Get on it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:17 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 17, 2021 08:17 PM (peGE0)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 17, 2021 08:17 PM (bxPTJ)
49 I can’t watch black white, movies or tv. Just can’t handle it.Even Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid?Posted by: Joe XiDen at April 17, 2021 08:15 PM (Y1kPm)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:17 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: BEN ROETHLESSBERGER at April 17, 2021 08:18 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 08:18 PM (XZMrE)
If you don't you'll die! Get on it!Now I kinda don't wanna watch it.Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:17 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:18 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:19 PM (2SdPm)
Dad was always kind of cheap, and I don't think we got a color set until we moved into our new house in 1968.
Luxury!
My Pop didn't spring for a color set until the late 70's. When he opened his wallet George Washington rubbed his eyes.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 17, 2021 08:19 PM (Rvt88)
Posted by:Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employeeat April 17, 2021 08:12 PM (XZMrE)
I remember liking the film, and that Tom Cruise and Morgan Freeman are in it but other than that I find I have almost no memory of it whatsoever. Even reading TJM's extended review only teased a ghost of a memory, which probably doesn't speak greatly as to how much I enjoyed the film I guess.Posted by: Paul Fieg at April 17, 2021 08:19 PM (Ojki1)
Watched them on DVD at home some time later. Blech.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 08:19 PM (4l77G)
Posted by: Pete in Texas at April 17, 2021 08:20 PM (cLJSt)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 08:20 PM (4l77G)
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 08:18 PM (XZMrE)
I think TJM made the point a while back that Cruise knows how to pick a solid script to work with.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:21 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by
ete in Texasat April 17, 2021 08:20 PM (cLJSt)
The 50s were probably just the best decade in film ever anyway.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:21 PM (LvTSG)
Sunk by Aichi Val dive bombers off Shokaku on 15 Oct 1942. The Japanese proceeded to strafe the survivors in the water. 182 men out of the crew were killed, only 55 survived.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2021 08:21 PM (XDC5a)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2021 08:21 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by:blake - semi lurker in marginal standingat April 17, 2021 08:21 PM (2SdPm)
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He has an extremely limited range as an actor that can only get broken out by great directors who push. The furthest out he's gone with any level of seriousness was in Magnolia by Paul Thomas Anderson. Make it a joke and he can go along like in Tropic Thunder by Ben Stiller.
Outside of those circumstances, he is largely Action Man. And he's a good Action Man.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:23 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:23 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 17, 2021 08:23 PM (BMmaB)
Dear me, I didn't have a color TV until the late 80s, when the B&W that I had to change channels with pliers gave out.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 17, 2021 08:24 PM (mht8P)
70 Here's 40 seconds of my animation. If you watch, thank you.Interesting. Kind of a Sisyphus thing.
https://tinyurl.com/2rx6bwwtPosted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2021 08:21 PM (OU+8W)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:25 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 08:25 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by:Bertram Cabot, Jr.at April 17, 2021 08:21 PM (63Dwl)
=========Peter Jackson did that in They Shall Not Grow Old.
The intertitle use completely threw the early talkies. Studios had no idea how to make movies intelligible across languages for a while. They couldn't just swap intertitles. Instead they filmed entire other versions.
The most famous example is Dracula. The Spanish version was filmed at the same time and is often considered superior to the English version. Hitchcock did this with Murder! (which became Mary in German). Even Howard Hawks had one of these, though the French version seems to have never been completed (and not by him).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:25 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Bete at April 17, 2021 08:26 PM (Ojki1)
74 @Corner Stone, they used to use chocolate syrup for blood back in the BW days.IIRC, I heard they used actual live ammunition to make bullet holes and fire shots (trained marksmen standing off screen.) Those were the days.Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 17, 2021 08:23 PM (BMmaB)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:26 PM (lmikk)
Posted by:Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employeeat April 17, 2021 08:12 PM (XZMrE)
=========Speaking of Riseborough, I also watched (and reviewed) Possessor.
She's much less pleasing to the eyes in that.
Posted by:TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for thatat April 17, 2021 08:12 PM (LvTSG)
---------------------------Brings to mind Army of Darkness
"You once found me beautiful"
"Honey, you got real ugly"
Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 17, 2021 08:27 PM (CAJOC)
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2021 08:27 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by:Beteat April 17, 2021 08:26 PM (Ojki1)
=========I've seen that once about a year ago. I was also left a bit cold. The first fifteen minutes or so, though, were amazing and I was totally on board.
And then I got kind of bored and just coasted through the whole thing.
I remember a description of the book that called it "Bad baseball and worse Malamud."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:27 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Bete
Redford's career in a nutshell.
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 08:27 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 17, 2021 08:27 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by:dartistat April 17, 2021 08:27 PM (+ya+t)
===========Orson Welles once said that it was impossible to film a great performance in color because color was a distraction.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:28 PM (LvTSG)
We started a series that so far has proven very entertaining.
"Bad Guys" on Netflix.
It a Korean series about a disgraced cop who gets called back when the regular cops can't catch a serial killer. The cop forms a team of criminals (sort of a mini-Dirty Dozen) consisting of a hit man, a brutal thug, and a genius serial killer.
The stories play out as a kind of police procedural where al-l-l-l-l the hunted criminals get very satisfying beat downs as they are the most unsavory types of scumbags - serial killers, human traffickers, kidnappers, organ thieves.
The actors are all good. Direction and action are good.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2021 08:28 PM (dWwl8)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 08:29 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:29 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by:TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for thatat April 17, 2021 08:25 PM (LvTSG)
The Universal release of Dracula on BD has both versions, and one of the featurettes talks how the English cast would shoot by day and the Spanish cast used the same sets by night and they were determined to upstage the English version in camera use, even if the actors may not have been able to upstage their counterparts.
I started watching it but things came up. I really should finish it.
Posted by: Bete at April 17, 2021 08:29 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 17, 2021 08:30 PM (bxPTJ)
Posted by: Bete at April 17, 2021 08:26 PM (Ojki1)
I liked it. Sure it was to show off Redford, that is pretty much what he did.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 08:30 PM (fjS2+)
Redford's career in a nutshell.
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 08:27 PM (6Hjyp)
A block of wood has more acting ability than Robert Redford.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 17, 2021 08:30 PM (mht8P)
Posted by:Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesusat April 17, 2021 08:27 PM (OssQ4)
=========Well, there's Schindler's List...
Also The Artist won Best Picture a decade ago and is a delightful look at the silent era. The Better Angels is a little known film produced by Terrence Malick and directed by an acolyte of his about Abraham Lincoln's early years that's pretty good (if you like Malick movies).
If you're up for Polish movies, Paweł Pawlikowski has made two movies (Ida and Cold War) that are both absolutely fantastic in a very Polish idiom that are both in black and white.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:31 PM (LvTSG)
I liked it. Sure it was to show off Redford, that is pretty much what he did.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 08:30 PM (fjS2+)
One of my all time favorites if you measure on how many times you've watched a movie.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:31 PM (2DOZq)
Though the Spanish Mina and her wardrobe... va va va voom.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2021 08:32 PM (XDC5a)
Yup....they were running AvGas to the Marines at Henderson Field.
My Uncle was a Machinist Mate so I like to think he went fairly quickly in the battle rather than waiting 3 days for pick up.
182 men remain there on duty.....RIP and God Bless.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2021 08:32 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 08:32 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by
atrick Batemanat April 17, 2021 08:31 PM (vRmj1)
=========
Could you please tell me anything you may know about Huey Lewis and the News?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:32 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 08:32 PM (XZMrE)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2021 08:33 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 17, 2021 08:33 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by: blaster at April 17, 2021 08:33 PM (Ef23Y)
Posted by:Aetius451ADat April 17, 2021 08:26 PM (lmikk)
Kurosawa used the best archers in Japan to film the scene where the lead actor in Throne of Blood is being shot at. Forget living in a hovel for 3 weeks for a role, that is a serious method acting technique.
Posted by: Bete at April 17, 2021 08:33 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by:rhomboidat April 17, 2021 08:33 PM (OTzUX)
==========How long is the version of Christ Stopped at Eboli that you have?
There are two, a 2.5 hour version and a 4 hour version. I've heard that the 4 hour version is the only way to go.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:33 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at April 17, 2021 08:34 PM (996BY)
Posted by: LASue at April 17, 2021 08:34 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 17, 2021 08:35 PM (bxPTJ)
though Outlaw Josie Wales and Quigley Down Under might make it a tie.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:35 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by:blasterat April 17, 2021 08:33 PM (Ef23Y)
==========I graduated the year before, but I was working on campus still the next year. I was one building over from where the main shooting happened, but the police got us off campus as soon as the shooting started. I wasn't locked down like my dad, who taught on the other side of campus, who had to stay in his office until that night.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:35 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 17, 2021 08:30 PM (bxPTJ)
I'm a huge fan of Noir and recently tried to watch a film that tried, and failed, to be a modern Noir film: Poison Rose.The script was decent, the actors were decent, but, it seemed like the director had no idea what he was supposed to do.My wife and I couldn't finish it.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:35 PM (2SdPm)
Opening 15 minutes are good. This might be a decent movie.
An hour or so of WTF?
15 minutes of a decent ending. Also, Kolchak with a weird eye.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 17, 2021 08:36 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 17, 2021 08:36 PM (OssQ4)
Kurosawa used the best archers in Japan to film the scene where the lead actor in Throne of Blood is being shot at. Forget living in a hovel for 3 weeks for a role, that is a serious method acting technique.
Posted by: Bete
I recently read that Toshiro Mifune was born in China to parents who were Methodist Missionaries. He himself remained a Methodist throughout his life. Which is weird in Japan.
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 08:36 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:36 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by:rhomboidat April 17, 2021 08:33 PM (OTzUX)
I love Das Boot. Haven't watched the other two, but do Own Letters.Posted by: Bete at April 17, 2021 08:36 PM (Ojki1)
How long is the version of Christ Stopped at Eboli that you have?
I’ve never heard of this. Is it a war movie?
Ps. I’m in season 2 of justified. Thanks to all who recommended it!
Posted by: LASue at April 17, 2021 08:36 PM (Ed8Zd)
Well, that narrows down the choice. Not doing a 220-minute film when I'm drowsy before dinner.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2021 08:37 PM (OTzUX)
How long is the version of Christ Stopped at Eboli that you have?
I’ve never heard of this. Is it a war movie?
Posted by:LASueat April 17, 2021 08:36 PM (Ed8Zd)
==========Italian movie about a communist who is essentially banished from Rome to a small seaside town on the decline. It's mainly about the people in the town.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:37 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:38 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 08:38 PM (6Hjyp)
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I read somewhere they did that in the James Cagney gangster movies.
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2021 08:38 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2021 08:39 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:35 PM (2DOZq)
someone has to point out that Redford had nothing to do with either of those. They're better movies because of it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 17, 2021 08:39 PM (bxPTJ)
I've some info on CZ mags, if you're interested.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:39 PM (2SdPm)
though Outlaw Josie Wales and Quigley Down Under might make it a tie.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:35 PM (2DOZq)
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid was a great film. It still has my favorite movie line to ask in a trivia contest. "What are you crazy? The fall will probably kill ya!" I have remembered that line for well over 40 years for some reason. I thought it was clever.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 08:39 PM (fjS2+)
I always liked "The Sting". I don't think Bob Redford had to act much, he just played the dumb sap that he is.
Paul Newman made that movie. The poker scene on the train was a classic.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2021 08:39 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: blaster at April 17, 2021 08:40 PM (Ef23Y)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2021 08:40 PM (Dc2NZ)
Did it look any different? All I remember is black and white, but that's pretty much what you're going to see on the moon, anyways.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2021 08:40 PM (lDew/)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:41 PM (2SdPm)
When I was a wee lad, B&W TV was normal. Then, a spate of shows announcing "IN COLOR".
It was a few years until we got a color console (credenza with a CRT). The B&W was relegated to the basement where I watched Ghoulardi.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf, evening drinking Wild Turkey Honey at April 17, 2021 08:41 PM (8C7+r)
Posted by:Blutarskiat April 17, 2021 08:38 PM (6Hjyp)
I did. It was great!Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2021 08:41 PM (Dc2NZ)
ok scifi concept, pace drags
Posted by: vmom sic semper stabbicus at April 17, 2021 08:43 PM (GBZnB)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2021 08:44 PM (Cxk7w)
140Paul Newman on why Robert Redford never married, "Robert could never find anyone he loved as much as himself."Posted by:blake - semi lurker in marginal standingat April 17, 2021 08:41 PM (2SdPm)
"Homer, I'm going to tell you something I told Redford. It ain't gonna happen."
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2021 08:44 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 17, 2021 08:44 PM (bxPTJ)
Posted by: vmom sic semper stabbicus at April 17, 2021 08:45 PM (GBZnB)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:36 PM (2DOZq)
I liked Electric Horseman. I like anything decent with horses and country music. My dad watched it with us and it almost killed him to do so. That traitor was in it, so I won't watch it again. It shows that people can be forgiving and others can be the shitwads they always were. I saw her in On Goldden Pond once too. But that was one time as a kid. I haven't watched a thing she ever did since the early 80s. And I would never support a thing she has done since. My dad was way too kind to let us see those films, he hated that bitch.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 08:45 PM (fjS2+)
Did it look any different? All I remember is black and white, but that's pretty much what you're going to see on the moon, anyways.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2021 08:40 PM (lDew/)
I honestly don’t know. It was grainy and not filled With color But if you knew my dad, who was a mathematician/ early computer guy who worked on space stuff at Boeing and was very frugal, he wouldn’t have sprung for it unless he thought it would be a big improvement from our old console b/w.
Man I’m old!!!
Posted by: LASue at April 17, 2021 08:45 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: dantesed at April 17, 2021 08:45 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standingat April 17, 2021 08:41 PM (2SdP
He's been married twice.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:46 PM (2DOZq)
When aliens invade, why would they go house to house to kill humans with guns when they could just drop some sort of anti-human bug spray on us?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2021 08:46 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2021 08:44 PM (XDC5a)
May I offer you a glass of elderberry wine?Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:46 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: megthered at April 17, 2021 08:48 PM (SM/op)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 17, 2021 08:48 PM (7tOF4)
Posted by:Skipat April 17, 2021 08:47 PM (Cxk7w)
============There is. The silent version is crazy.
Filmed in Italy when Italy really was a third world shithole, there are rumors that dozens of extras died during the filming of the sea battle.
Also, boobs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:48 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 08:48 PM (6Hjyp)
He's been married twice.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:46 PM (2DOZq)
Eh, I always thought that quote gave good insight as to what Newman thought about Redford.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:48 PM (2SdPm)
Also, the fact that they do not shy away from making Cruise's 'Deaths' as gruesome as possible is kind of funny.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:48 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 08:48 PM (XZMrE)
Posted by: dantesed at April 17, 2021 08:45 PM (88xKn)
you can watch the 1925 version of Ben Hur and find out - the Chariot race in that one is probably even better than in the 1959 version. It's interesting in that it has a lot more political intrigue and maneuvering than the later version, but DeMille, who made both, got it right the second time. He knew people watch a movie like that for the spectacle, not intricate plots, and he went as over the top as he could go.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 17, 2021 08:49 PM (bxPTJ)
That's how I remember it, too, but it was amazing for little me to watch. Imagine if they hadn't figured out how to broadcast it! That would have changed millions of childhoods.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2021 08:49 PM (lDew/)
Posted by: LASue at April 17, 2021 08:50 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:51 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:51 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:48 PM (lmikk)
Paxton was hilarious in "Ruthless People."Of course, "Ruthless People" is hilarious to begin with.
I still laugh at Judge Reinhold telling his wife, "I'm no criminal. Hell, I can't even sell retail, and that's legal!"
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:51 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: megthered
I was watching an old series called One Step Beyond (late 50's, early 60's) last week and a VERY young Warren Beatty showed up. He's a lousy actor.
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 08:51 PM (6Hjyp)
I also love The Wizard of Oz and GWTW and would watch each of them every day. They make me happy.
Posted by: megthered at April 17, 2021 08:53 PM (SM/op)
Probably gonna be Letters from Iwo tonight.
Only recently learned that Kuribayashi, like Yamamoto, spent time in the US as a military attache, also did some time at Harvard, and like his more colorful naval colleague traveled around the US quite a bit.
Interesting how many key Japanese figures actually had had a lot of exposure to the US. One of the key figures in putting Japan down the (remarkably insane, even generally so viewed by those involved) and inexorable path to war with the US, foreign minister Matsuoka, actually was fairly Americanized, had a law degree from the Univ. of Oregon, lived in the US for a decade.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2021 08:53 PM (OTzUX)
I was watching an old series called One Step Beyond (late 50's, early 60's) last week and a VERY young Warren Beatty showed up. He's a lousy actor.
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 08:51 PM (6Hjyp)
Yeah, that "puzzled about what just happened" look is sort of all Beatty can do.Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 08:53 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2021 08:53 PM (1ENjc)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:54 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 17, 2021 08:54 PM (49Dnm)
Posted by:rhomboidat April 17, 2021 08:53 PM (OTzUX)
=========Yeah...more people using their libraries to see movies. This is a good thing. I use mine like this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:55 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 08:51 PM (lmikk)
i am going to have to check that out again. In my era, A Bridge Too Far was the most star studded and epic WW2 movie. I already know the competition there will be fierce, i have heard of The Longest Day. . My guess is no movies like that will be made again by Hollyweird.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 08:56 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 08:56 PM (XZMrE)
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Awesome movie. Jackie Gleason was great as Minnesota Fats too. I'm so young I remember him playing on tv. Had a store with his line of pool tables near here.
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2021 08:56 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by:Catch Thirty-Thr33at April 17, 2021 08:54 PM (49Dnm)
============I have the Eisenstein Sound Years DVD set from Criterion which includes those two and Ivan Part II. I, apparently, could sell that for at least a couple hundred dollars it's so rare now.
Eisenstein was in the early stages of filming Part III when Stalin shut it down because he saw it as a critique of himself (which it might have been).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:56 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:57 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 17, 2021 08:27 PM (OssQ4)
I love "Kafka". It was a great mimic of a Kafka story with "Kafka" as the central character.
And speaking of B&W to color, "Kafka" is B&W until the central mystery is about to be "solved" when it suddenly changes to color.
I just pulled it out this week to rewatch because Soderbergh is about to release it on blu-ray this spring with an entirely new edit. apparently, he hates "Kafka" as is, due to studio interference(?) and will release the new "kafka" according to what he wanted.
BONUS! Woody Allen made a movie called "Shadows and Fog" in B&W that I'm pretty sure was "Inspired" by Soderbergh's movie cuz it hits many of the same beats and plot points. It's very much like "Kafka" filtered thru Bergman and allen sense of comedy.
Would make an interesting double feature with "Kafka" .
Check them out.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2021 08:58 PM (dWwl8)
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2021 08:56 PM (+ya+t)
Gleason was so good in The Hustler in part because he was also a top pool player in real life.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:58 PM (2DOZq)
Gleason was so good in The Hustler in part because he was also a top pool player in real life.
Posted by:Sebastian Melmothat April 17, 2021 08:58 PM (2DOZq)
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All but one of the shots was done by the actors themselves. Newman got so cocky that he challenged Gleason to a match, which Gleason happily took and proceeded to sink every ball without ever giving Newman a chance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 08:59 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2021 09:00 PM (+ya+t)
He's a horrid Lefty, wannabe Bill Ayers, but he was beautiful when he was younger and he has a great voice. He has done a lot of narration for nature shows.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 17, 2021 09:00 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 09:00 PM (XZMrE)
i will check those out. I studied my share of Russian history too. In high school somehow but also in college. I am not sure how we had a Russian history class in high school, but we did. They claimed it was the first of its kind. I am sure in some areas of PA or whatever, they had them as well, in Russian immigrant areas. . But this was in average America, so it was pretty new as far as I know.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 09:01 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:01 PM (2DOZq)
Gleason was so good in The Hustler in part because he was also a top pool player in real life.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:58 PM (2DOZq)
George C Scott was pretty good too in his role.
Posted by: dantesed at April 17, 2021 09:01 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 17, 2021 09:02 PM (VVEnO)
As for B&W movies...all good movies have their own aesthetic. "Eraserhead" would have been awful in color. "Avatar" would never have worked in flat B&W. (I don't think it works anyway, but at least it has spectacle)
"Attack of the Crab Monsters" works because the B&W is bleak and dispiriting. Same with "Night of the Living Dead." But there are many cases where the B&W view makes it life affirming.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2021 09:02 PM (OU+8W)
Posted by:BeckoningChasmat April 17, 2021 09:02 PM (OU+8W) ==========
Plug away. I'm good with it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:02 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at April 17, 2021 09:03 PM (xopIz)
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 09:03 PM (XZMrE)
Posted by: Lizzy
I always thought Redford posed for the camera. Always. When he turned his had to directing A River Runs Through It, he cast a very young Brad Pitt who...posed for the camera.
It wasn't until years later that I finally gave Pitt his due.
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:03 PM (6Hjyp)
Two of my all-time faves.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2021 09:03 PM (dWwl8)
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 09:03 PM (fjS2+)
185 Keanu Reeves today's Robert Redford? ( acting not political)Redford likes the sound of his own voice too much. Hmmm. I am not sure about the analog. A bit goofy. Does very well in strong, silent parts.Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:57 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:03 PM (lmikk)
https://youtu.be/5TC2QkqqtgQ
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2021 09:03 PM (i4vaF)
Posted by:Quintat April 17, 2021 09:03 PM (fjS2+)
===========Since when does loving a movie directed by Martin Scorsese hurt someone's movie cred?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:04 PM (LvTSG)
Hah I didn't know that. Speaking of The Hustler , the sequel made years later , Color of Money is on my list of top sequels.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:04 PM (2DOZq)
The Longest Day is probably my favorite WWII movie. It's fantastic. Plus, just about every actor in that era is in it.
And even some that weren't - like Tommy Sands.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 17, 2021 09:04 PM (Rvt88)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 08:57 PM (2DOZq)
'Look up the youtube video of Keanu with Jay Leno talking bikes. You'll be amazed at how many words Keanu can string together.Also, of course, there are the videos of Keanu showing his chops with firearms.
Michelle Rodriguez is also quite adept with firearms, I might add.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 09:04 PM (2SdPm)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2021 09:04 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2021 09:04 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 09:03 PM (XZMrE)
I liked him in "A Walk in the Clouds". And everything I have heard about the man himself shows me he is the best of Hollyweird. Really no one anywhere has a bad thing to say about him. One day I will get to his modern flicks.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 09:05 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 17, 2021 09:06 PM (bDqIh)
Not great actors but make great movies. Keanu has the highest percentage of good movies IMHO.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:06 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by:rhomboidat April 17, 2021 09:04 PM (OTzUX)
He was also very highly ranked in his martial arts field at one time. When he goes to learn something, he learn the hell out of it.Posted by: Bete at April 17, 2021 09:07 PM (Ojki1)
Like when Simpsons first aired as a "cartoon" in prime time.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 17, 2021 09:07 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: G. Gnome, Bamboo Killer & Rhizome Slayer at April 17, 2021 09:07 PM (OQcPl)
Also, disappointingly, the DVD version, at least, the version I have, doesn't have the great soliloquy by Gleason that's in the original.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 09:08 PM (2SdPm)
He is has a motorcycle company.
Keanu Reeve's Secret Motorcycle Company - Ideal
Posted by: Lizzy at April 17, 2021 09:09 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2021 09:09 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:11 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2021 09:11 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at April 17, 2021 09:12 PM (xopIz)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 17, 2021 09:12 PM (49Dnm)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 17, 2021 09:14 PM (49Dnm)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
Plus Red Buttons and sort of unknown George Segal. And the guy who played Goldfinger.
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:14 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 17, 2021 09:12 PM (49Dnm)
Jackie Gleason? 
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:14 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2021 09:14 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by:Blutarskiat April 17, 2021 08:38 PM (6Hjyp)
I did. It was great!Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2021 08:41 PM (Dc2NZ)
Can confirm.
Posted by: Marcus Halberstram at April 17, 2021 09:15 PM (52EoY)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2021 09:04 PM (Dc2NZ)
my teacher was an African American female. She was uber liberal and we went at it a quite often. But it was a great course really. And that was back in the day when you could express your views and that was ok. One thing about her, she said she would never go back to the USSR again. She had a group that went there for some trip once, and they stopped them at immigration and interrogated them for hours.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 09:15 PM (fjS2+)
218 Anyone mention Pleasantville? I saw it once, and without the color hook, I doubt I'd remember it existed. I barely remember it now other than there was something about color becoming more vivid throughout the movie. Posted by: G. Gnome, Bamboo Killer & Rhizome Slayer at April 17, 2021 09:07 PM (OQcPl)
With or without the color hook it is "Footloose"
Posted by: Buzzion at April 17, 2021 09:16 PM (nrjQd)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2021 09:16 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 17, 2021 09:18 PM (49Dnm)
"Shrunken Heads" has just been released for the first time on blu-ray.
Of course, I had to buy it. I won't claim it's a great movie, however it's very entertaining.
It's a superhero origin story where 3 teenage guys run afoul of a lesbian gangster and are murdered. But, they're brought back to life as superpower ed shrunken heads by the voodoo priest janitor that that know in order to get revenge.
Yes, it's just that crazy. "Shrunken Heads" could become a one joke movie but it actually has a bit of existential sadness in the mix cuz yeah you're superpowers but also you're a disembodied shrunken head.
Directed and written by Danny Elfman's brother so, SH gets a full "Batman" worthy sound tract.
Available on Amazon Prime.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2021 09:18 PM (dWwl8)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:18 PM (lmikk)
wanna see if I can keep the time periods straight this time
Posted by: vmom sic semper stabbicus at April 17, 2021 09:18 PM (GBZnB)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2021 09:04 PM (Dc2NZ)
a lot of history there, i bet they taught you a lot. One thing I learned from many courses in college in Russian history. The history was pretty horrific.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 09:19 PM (fjS2+)
In "The Hustler" what did Bert do to Sarah?
iirc - Aside from the constant sniping at her as he viewed her as a rival, I don't know that he did anything in particular but, I always thought that what he whispered to her led to her death.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 17, 2021 09:20 PM (Rvt88)
How about that? 9 movies called Fast and Furious in the span of time that there is still no justice for the innocents killed in Obama's Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2021 09:22 PM (i4vaF)
Posted by: Vivi at April 17, 2021 09:22 PM (USW1s)
240 rewatching Witcher
wanna see if I can keep the time periods straight this time Posted by: vmom sic semper stabbicus at April 17, 2021 09:18 PM (GBZnB)
I believe Yennifer's starts earliest. Then Geralt. Then Ciri. That should help you some. If it was t for Apple I probably would have named my next girl dog Ciri based off the video game.
Posted by: Buzzion at April 17, 2021 09:22 PM (nrjQd)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2021 09:23 PM (OU+8W)
Posted by:Viviat April 17, 2021 09:22 PM (USW1s)
===========I just finished my run of David Lynch movies (reviews are written but not published yet). Eraserhead is the super rare kind of debut film that almost never happens. A pure distillation of what makes a filmmaker great without any build up.
It's one of the great debut films.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:25 PM (LvTSG)
I never did figure it out. Did he make a threat or worse.....
It was always left unanswered when I watched it.
Thanks Tonypete!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2021 09:25 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 17, 2021 09:25 PM (nrjQd)
I'm a sort of Lynch-Fan in that I think his work is incredible, but I can admit that some of it just doesn't work at all. "And is bad," as Jenny Nicholson might say.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2021 09:27 PM (OU+8W)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:04 PM (LvTSG)
here? Never. But I assumed some would think I should be more into The Hustler. I did see it, but there is something about The Color of Money. Sure it is Scorcese. But I need to watch The Hustler again.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 09:28 PM (fjS2+)
Bob Odenkirk and Christopher Lloyd share Oct. 22nd birthdates! (My oldest brother, a lawyer, too! Too bad he didn't graduate from McGill too!)
Apparently, Odenkirk suffered a home invasion himself.
Correction: It looks like IMDB sock links are still banned.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7888964/
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2021 09:28 PM (UHVv4)
Look at the depiction of the 50's in Back to the Future. It was shown as bright and colorful, but it was not shown as inherently 'wrong'.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:28 PM (lmikk)
He's still a massive loser. LOL
Posted by: Trump lost bigly at April 17, 2021 09:28 PM (vad6n)
I'm a sort of Lynch-Fan in that I think his work is incredible, but I can admit that some of it just doesn't work at all. "And is bad," as Jenny Nicholson might say.
Posted by:BeckoningChasmat April 17, 2021 09:27 PM (OU+8W)
===========Wild at Heart is the most interesting tonal clash he almost managed to pull off.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:28 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at April 17, 2021 09:30 PM (2SdPm)
here? Never. But I assumed some would think I should be more into The Hustler. I did see it, but there is something about The Color of Money. Sure it is Scorcese. But I need to watch The Hustler again.
Posted by:Quintat April 17, 2021 09:28 PM (fjS2+)
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I'm well past snootiness when it comes to other people's opinions on movies. We all have different tastes. The joys of film criticism is explaining why we love what we love to people who know how to listen. We don't have to agree in the end, but we did manage a fun conversation.
I think The Color of Money is fun and light. I could imagine it hitting people just the right way. It doesn't for me, but it's an amusing two hours.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:30 PM (LvTSG)
Thanks Tonypete!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2021 09:25 PM (R/m4+)
I thought it was pretty clear they had a sexual encounter of some kind.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:31 PM (2DOZq)
Scientist tries to revive his dead family by imprinting their brain waves into synthetic robot brains. HiJinks ensue.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2021 09:31 PM (i4vaF)
Posted by: Pastor Charles the Simple at April 17, 2021 09:32 PM (HuH1F)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2021 09:32 PM (XDC5a)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 17, 2021 09:32 PM (49Dnm)
Unfortunately I think that's one of his movies that brings his percentage down.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:32 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by:andycanuckat April 17, 2021 09:32 PM (UHVv4)
=========="Bite me! Bite me!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:32 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2021 09:33 PM (OU+8W)
Posted by:Catch Thirty-Thr33at April 17, 2021 09:32 PM (49Dnm)
=========
Heh.
I haven't gotten that criticism yet.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:33 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Pastor Charles the Simple at April 17, 2021 09:32 PM (HuH1F)
That's a good one.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:34 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by:BeckoningChasmat April 17, 2021 09:33 PM (OU+8W)
=========I think it almost works. Not quite. But almost.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:34 PM (LvTSG)
268 I wonder what "Bitte! Bitte!" means??Hey, Yank! Got a cigarette? I'm DYING for a cigarette.'Posted by: andycanuck
I heard two clicks!
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:33 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:35 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: runner, Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink ! at April 17, 2021 09:35 PM (Q9SFr)
My first naughty thoughts as a lad featured her.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 09:36 PM (4l77G)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2021 09:36 PM (OU+8W)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2021 09:37 PM (ELgVT)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:37 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by:Hairyback Guyat April 17, 2021 09:35 PM (R/m4+)
============David Lynch really isn't for everyone, but he's not just weird for weirdness sake.
He's telling very human stories with surrealist abstraction. At the core of the weird baby, the horrifying dinner, and the sex with the woman across the hall in the puddle of water that was his bed, Lynch is telling a clear tale of the fears of fatherhood, being a husband, and adulthood.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:37 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 17, 2021 09:38 PM (49Dnm)
Posted by:BeckoningChasmat April 17, 2021 09:36 PM (OU+8W)
===========I never want to say this ever, but Harry Dean Stanton should have been cut from the film. I think the problem arises from the fact that Sailor and Lula are too removed from a lot of the weirdness that dominates the early half of the film.
It manages to largely come together in the end, but Stanton's role is long forgotten by that point. Everything about his twenty minutes of screen time ends up unimportant to the central story.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:39 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:39 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by:Blutarskiat April 17, 2021 09:39 PM (6Hjyp)
==========That's my favorite of Lynch's films.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:40 PM (LvTSG)
https://tinyurl.com/2rx6bwwt
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
Interesting.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2021 09:41 PM (i4vaF)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:41 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by: klaftern at April 17, 2021 09:41 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:42 PM (lmikk)
That’s our trolls.
Posted by: LASue at April 17, 2021 09:42 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2021 09:42 PM (OU+8W)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:01 PM (2DOZq)
Blazzing Saddles
Airplane!
And what else? I would go with The Pink Panther Strikes Again , 48 Hours, and maybe. well, I am not sure. Ok 48 Hours is not really a comedy, but I do think it is underrated. It was a big deal back in the day.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 09:42 PM (fjS2+)
The real Colonel Priller was a consultant for The Longest Day.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2021 09:42 PM (XDC5a)
Posted by: Pastor Charles the Simple
I recall the first time I saw a colorized 'Boom Town' and being smitten by Hedy Lamarr's stunning blue eyes.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2021 09:42 PM (9Fwwf)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:28 PM (LvTSG)
The key word there is "almost". WaH is a mess. Probably Lynch's worst movie. But -
BONUS! WaH was originally a novel written by Barry Giifford. The same characters appear in an prequel novel, which was filmed by Alex de la Iglesias as "Perdita Durango".
An-n-n-n-nd, "Perdita Durango" is streaming on Shudder right now at this very moment.
So, you can now compare two directors dealing with (most of) the same characters in two movies!
Who wins Lynch or Iglesias?
I plan on watching "Perdita Durango" tomorrow.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2021 09:43 PM (dWwl8)
A forgotten Lynch film is The Straight Story which is sweet and uplifting and not all weird. Starred Richard Farnsworth, I think was his name. Just great.Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:39 PM (6Hjyp)
I love that movie so much. It's simply wonderful.
that said, I'm a pretty solid Lynch fan in general. Not all, but more than half of his stuff. I love the Showtime Twin Peaks, but I can totally understand why many would not.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 09:43 PM (4l77G)
https://tinyurl.com/2rx6bwwt
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
I liked it. Good job.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:43 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:43 PM (lmikk)
Lynch is telling a clear tale of the fears of fatherhood, being a husband, and adulthood.
Indubitably.
Posted by: Zombie Sigmund Freud at April 17, 2021 09:44 PM (W4eKo)
Incredibly, he was even more ridicously brave in real life than he was in that movie. He already had two Bronze Stars for bravery before his unit even hit Okinawa and I think he was wounded at least six times.
His Medal of Honor Citation is quite a read.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2021 09:44 PM (i4vaF)
Understood. I am just not into that surreal stuff but some folks do like it.
I am not artistic at all so stuff like that tends to go over my head.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2021 09:44 PM (R/m4+)
The key word there is "almost". WaH is a mess. Probably Lynch's worst movie. But -
Posted by:naturalfakeat April 17, 2021 09:43 PM (dWwl
============
Dune has it's fans, but I'm not really one of them. Dune is an incomprehensible mess, and I know the book pretty well. Dune is worse than Wild at Heart. At least Wild at Heart has a solid throughline that is the romance between Sailor and Lula.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:45 PM (LvTSG)
Interesting how many key Japanese figures actually had had a lot of exposure to the US. One of the key figures in putting Japan down the (remarkably insane, even generally so viewed by those involved) and inexorable path to war with the US, foreign minister Matsuoka, actually was fairly Americanized, had a law degree from the Univ. of Oregon, lived in the US for a decade.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2021 08:53 PM (OTzUX)
Once woke always woke
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2021 09:45 PM (1ENjc)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:46 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:41 PM (6Hjyp)
same guy from "The Natural" I am not sure I have seen it, but I know the jist. I will check it out if I can.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 09:46 PM (fjS2+)
I don't think there's another film-maker who can claim that crown.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2021 09:46 PM (OU+8W)
I am not artistic at all so stuff like that tends to go over my head.
Posted by:Hairyback Guyat April 17, 2021 09:44 PM (R/m4+)
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Yeah, he really isn't for everyone. I'd never blind recommend him, except for The Elephant Man and The Straight Story. I'd recommend both of those to pretty much anyone.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:47 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by:BeckoningChasmat April 17, 2021 09:46 PM (OU+8W)
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My next thread will be about Lynch, by the way. Not entirely sure what I'm going to write, but I have a drive down to Orlando tomorrow to consider it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:48 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:48 PM (lmikk)
Posted by:Aetius451ADat April 17, 2021 09:48 PM (lmikk)
=========Audrey was originally envisioned as the main character of Mulholland Drive in its earliest iteration in Lynch's head.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:49 PM (LvTSG)
(Try to imagine the above shouted in Gordon Cole's voice.)
Yeah, it's not great, but it has far more moments than Wild at Heart.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2021 09:49 PM (OU+8W)
Still. Hard movie to watch.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 09:49 PM (4l77G)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:50 PM (2DOZq)
(Try to imagine the above shouted in Gordon Cole's voice.)
Yeah, it's not great, but it has far more moments than Wild at Heart.
Posted by:BeckoningChasmat April 17, 2021 09:49 PM (OU+8W)
============Well, at least we can agree that it's a Blue Rose case.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:50 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 17, 2021 09:50 PM (vuisn)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2021 09:50 PM (XDC5a)
Posted by: davidt at April 17, 2021 09:50 PM (ez/ed)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
"Hey, Damnit! We are standing right here!" - Kevin Costner and Gina Carano.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2021 09:51 PM (i4vaF)
Posted by:Anna Pumaat April 17, 2021 09:50 PM (XDC5a)
==========Heh.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:51 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2021 09:51 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2021 09:51 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by: zmdavid at April 17, 2021 09:52 PM (xqRaG)
It also may be Mel Gibson' finest film.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 17, 2021 09:52 PM (FVrDO)
312 Mel Gibson was the exact right one to make Hacksaw Ridge. Anyone else would have fooked it up horribly. Hugo Weaving as Doss's father was magnificent.Gibson, since maybe The Patriot, seems to specialize in 'hard to watch- but good.' Hell, even parts of the Patriot are rough with his son's deaths. Or Braveheart.
Still. Hard movie to watch.Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 09:49 PM (4l77G)
Lot of demons there he is trying to work out.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:52 PM (lmikk)
Which explains why after watching it, I want to drill a hole in my head and pour vermouth inside while dancing to the sound of howler monkeys.
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 09:52 PM (XZMrE)
Posted by: @TheBabylonBee at April 17, 2021 09:52 PM (8u/ei)
Yes! He was the assistant coach in the Natural. And if you ever look closely at the end of the Cowboys, he's one of the rustlers that gets his due. He's much younger there, though.
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:54 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by: The Longest Day at April 17, 2021 09:54 PM (AytXr)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 17, 2021 09:12 PM (49Dnm)
Jackie Gleason?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:14 PM (2DOZq) Did Brian Dennehy play the role of Normandy?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 17, 2021 09:54 PM (mdjgu)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:45 PM (LvTSG)
We disagree on this.
I think "Dune" is one of Lynch's Better movies. Not the best but somewhere in the top five.
WaH has some good set pieces and scenes but it's just awful. A mess where Lynch thought he could just thrown anything together and the critics would hail it, but he was wrong, recognized it and got over it to make better movies.
I also think "Lost Highway" is one of his top five and lots of people hate that one.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 17, 2021 09:55 PM (dWwl8)
Either that or my affinity for Naomi Watts got the better of me.
Apropos, Watts claims she majorly regretted letting Lynch talk her into that masturbation scene.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2021 09:55 PM (G0bXQ)
Posted by: Blutarski
Friend of mine who is a fanatic of all things movie-related saw it and said he'd watch it another 100 times and that it is Oscar-worthy.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2021 09:55 PM (i4vaF)
Posted by: The Longest Day at April 17, 2021 09:55 PM (AytXr)
Posted by:BeckoningChasmat April 17, 2021 09:33 PM (OU+8W)
Both phony Southern accents and Laura Dern drive me up the wall so this one just about made my head esplode
Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 17, 2021 09:56 PM (vuisn)
I also think "Lost Highway" is one of his top five and lots of people hate that one.
Posted by:naturalfakeat April 17, 2021 09:55 PM (dWwl
===============
I love Lost Highway. I bought it recently, not remembering what my opinion of it was originally on my first viewing many moons back. I watched it, loved it, and then looked at my Netflix DVD account to see what I originally rated it.
2/5.
I was shocked. Changed that tout suite.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, I have the perfect gif for that at April 17, 2021 09:56 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Sharkman at April 17, 2021 09:56 PM (i4vaF)
Which explains why after watching it, I want to drill a hole in my head and pour vermouth inside while dancing to the sound of howler monkeys.
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 09:52 PM (XZMrE)
That's both poetic and a good description of my feelings on Eraserhead.Also, in my own words: It's fucking creepy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:57 PM (lmikk)
Posted by:dartistat April 17, 2021 09:51 PM (+ya+t)
I picked a bad week to give up sniffing glue!
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2021 09:57 PM (yrol0)
David Lynch, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock and others would be at the top of that list.
Ridley Scott would not be on that list.
Love you all, truly, and be the best you can be, while we're here.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 17, 2021 09:57 PM (OU+8W)
Caddy Shack
Animal House
Hollywood Knights
Pink Panther
Uncle Buck
Posted by:Sebastian Melmothat April 17, 2021 09:56 PM (2DOZq)
You missed Christmas Vaca and Groundhog
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2021 09:58 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 17, 2021 09:58 PM (Uh2oA)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2021 09:58 PM (XDC5a)
Caddy Shack
Animal House
Hollywood Knights
Pink Panther
Uncle Buck Posted by:Sebastian
I might add Slapshot and One, Two, Three. But that's just me.
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2021 09:59 PM (6Hjyp)
Posted by:Sebastian Melmothat April 17, 2021 09:56 PM (2DOZq)
You missed Christmas Vaca and Groundhog
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2021 09:58 PM (yrol0)
Vacation and Groundhog Day are in my top ten.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 09:59 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:58 PM (lmikk)
She's electric.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2021 09:59 PM (G0bXQ)
My husband and I thought Oblivion was OK, but as veterans of SF, we guessed every "twist" at least half an hour before it happened.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at April 17, 2021 10:00 PM (G6Lqs)
Animal House
Strange Brew
Young Frankenstein
The Pink Panther (pretty much any of the Sellers ones)
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 10:00 PM (4l77G)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at April 17, 2021 10:01 PM (G6Lqs)
When Troubled Niece was briefly living with us & our three kids, we started our annual viewing of It's a Wonderful Life. Barely into the beginning of it, Niece exclaimed in horror: "It's black and white!" She couldn't get into it. Sigh!
This past week, for some reason, Milady and I watched ;">The Truman Show (199
. Didn't think we'd enjoy it as much as we did, because, you know, Jim Carrey. But aside from a few Carrey being Carrey distractions, it's a weird, twisted, and dark movie. Hadn't thought about it before, but there are shots of people watching the show, which are fixed cams, evoking the hidden cameras filming Truman. What is reality?
Also, for some reason, we watched the 2003 made-for-TV Disney production of ;">A Wrinkle in Time. Been a fan of the book since High School, and we read it aloud to our kids back when we did that. As I remembered, the casting was pretty much excellent, especially Meg and her family, and Calvin. Nothing could force me to watch the Oprah theatrical remake of not many years after. Milady and I both thought, while watching, that Disney probably looked at this version and said, we can do much more spectacular special effects… and get a Big Name to star. The effects were not really impressive, but that wasn't too distracting, except when they lingered too long on them: Get on with the story, awreddy!
"You might think of it as a plague of evil. A lack of will and compassion. A breaking, a diminishing, that could infect the universe if not stopped." Sounds suspiciously… current.
Speaking of not a movie at all, anyone else enjoy the first season of ;">Resident Alien? We watched each episode as it came out, then re-watched the whole season, and enjoyed it even more. Not many series about which I could say that!!
Posted by: mindful webworker and the aspect ratio wars at April 17, 2021 10:01 PM (X15H5)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2021 10:01 PM (CTJwJ)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:58 PM (lmikk)
She's electric.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2021 09:59 PM (G0bXQ)
I can't resist her.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:01 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Puddleglum, future Tyrell Corp employee at April 17, 2021 10:01 PM (XZMrE)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 09:58 PM (lmikk)
She's electric.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2021 09:59 PM (G0bXQ)
I can't resist her
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:03 PM (2DOZq)
Caddy Shack
Animal House
Hollywood Knights
Pink Panther
Uncle Buck Posted by:Sebastian
------------
My Cousin Vinnie Trading Places Young Frankenstein Blazing Saddles
FIGHT ME!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 17, 2021 10:03 PM (fLVm1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 17, 2021 10:01 PM (CTJwJ)
I love that film. I love the serenity of the early scenes. There is also the libertarian vibe of the flick that hits home. Another movie I liked because I saw it at the right place and the right time, was The Jack Bull. I don't think that movie gets much love for some reason, but I thought it was pretty good.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 10:04 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:05 PM (2DOZq)
Vacation and Groundhog Day are in my top ten.
Posted by:Sebastian Melmothat April 17, 2021 09:59 PM (2DOZq)
Do not forget Young F, Blazing, and KFC Movie
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2021 10:05 PM (yrol0)
Three Amigos
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2021 10:07 PM (G0bXQ)
However, "Singin' in the Rain" does the transition from color to black-and-white in the montage where they're filming and dubbing "The Singing Cavalier". That sequence is pure magic.
Peter Jackson's "They Shall Not Grow Old" does a brilliant job of colorizing the documentary footage of the time. While I object to colorizing the art films, colorizing the documentary footage works brilliantly.
Posted by: Nemo at April 17, 2021 10:08 PM (S6ArX)
Posted by: mindful webworker and the aspect ratio wars at April 17, 2021 10:01 PM (X15H5)The Truman show is one I saw and liked a lot. The brunette (the 'True Love') in that I have only seen in a few movies- 'TS and Ronin to name two right this minute always struck me. For some reason, the scene where Truman is reliving meeting her and speaking with her, when she is watching the Truman Show in the present day, the look she gives Truman on screen at that moment grabs me. I am a sucker for the right look.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 10:08 PM (lmikk)
A rough draft for me after so many tips.
maybe Dirty Rotten Scoundrels for eighth place?
maybe this should be top ten?
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 10:09 PM (fjS2+)
Do not forget Young F, Blazing, and KFC Movie
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2021 10:05 PM (yrol0)
To round out my top ten Trading Places, Kentucky Fried Movie and Stripes.
Though I may replace Stripes because of the last 20 minutes.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:10 PM (2DOZq)
Three Amigos
Posted by:AlaBAMAat April 17, 2021 10:07 PM (G0bXQ)
We watch CV from thanksgiving til New Years.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2021 10:10 PM (yrol0)
The story in "Dune" is complex enough that it cannot be told well visually alone, so it winds up spending a lot of time in characters' heads for exposition. That slows it down and makes it tedious to sit through - I watched it again a couple of weeks ago, the first time since I saw it in the theater back when it was first released.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2021 10:11 PM (jN9H6)
it's one of those "people are getting stuck in a virtual reality video game", but there are three levels. the "normal" game (i.e., the one you don't get stuck in) is black and amber. the real world is shades of greys. if you're good enough at the normal game, you get sent to the endgame, which is full color; it's in the endgame that folks are getting stuck.
Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at April 17, 2021 10:11 PM (5br8a)
Team America
Posted by:AlaBAMAat April 17, 2021 10:10 PM (G0bXQ)
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Best puppet fucking too
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2021 10:11 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2021 10:11 PM (yrol0
Also best dramatic puppet puking scene.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2021 10:12 PM (G0bXQ)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:13 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 10:08 PM (lmikk)
it was an impressive film at the time, though I don't like the main actors. There is something about it that seems anachronistic now. So many are living their own Truman Show by choice.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 10:14 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by: davidt at April 17, 2021 10:14 PM (ez/ed)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:16 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:13 PM (2DOZq)
i thought that was awful. The OG was great if you saw it in theaters. If you ever traveled Europe, the second was pretty damn funny. The Christmas movie is probably the most loved by general audiences today. i could be wrong, but that is how i see it.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 10:16 PM (fjS2+)
it was an impressive film at the time, though I don't like the main actors. There is something about it that seems anachronistic now. So many are living their own Truman Show by choice.It seems to be the point when Jim Carey jumped off the cliff.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 10:14 PM (fjS2+)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 10:16 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in the Big Sky Country at April 17, 2021 10:16 PM (4l77G)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2021 10:18 PM (G0bXQ)
You can't be wrong about your opinions on movies.
Except if it disagrees with mine.
Just kidding
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:18 PM (2DOZq)
Top Secret?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 10:12 PM (lmikk)
people do love Galaxy Quest. I still say people who haven't should watch the Pink Panther movies. If those are not funny, I guess I don't know what funny is. I think my fave is The Pink Panther Strikes Again. I think that was the best but I could be mixing it up with another one of them.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2021 10:19 PM (fjS2+)
378 I always wanted to know if Truman was screwing his wife. They never gave a hint he was.I think it was obvious he was, but his heart wasn't in it. It was the empty illusion of reality, for everyone, but for him most of all and he was the only one who actually believed in it.Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:16 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 10:20 PM (lmikk)
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Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2021 10:21 PM (jN9H6)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 10:21 PM (lmikk)
Curious why you think it was obvious. That would have made the actress basically a whore.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:21 PM (2DOZq)
Scientist tries to revive his dead family by imprinting their brain waves into synthetic robot brains. HiJinks ensue.
meh. max headroom did it better.
Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at April 17, 2021 10:23 PM (5br8a)
Curious why you think it was obvious. That would have made the actress basically a whore.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 17, 2021 10:21 PM (2DOZq)
I think that is the way they portrayed her. Her feelings for Truman are shallow. IIRC, they also have scenes where it shows she is pretty cold and mercenary (contract negotiations, etc, 'If' I am remembering right.)Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 10:26 PM (lmikk)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 17, 2021 10:28 PM (lmikk)
"Avatar" would never have worked in flat B&W. (I don't think it works anyway, but at least it has spectacle)
the only thing avatar had was the 3d. i've tried watching it in 2d and it just doesn't work.
Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at April 17, 2021 10:30 PM (5br8a)
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Posted by: Bete at April 17, 2021 07:54 PM (Ojki1)