February 10, 2014

The Obama Precedent: Congress, Who Needs It?
— Gabriel Malor

The Obama administration has one again unilaterally and unlawfully extended the delay in enforcement of the Obamacare employer mandate.

The government will now exempt companies employing between 50 and 100 full-time workers from complying with the mandate to offer employees affordable health insurance by another year, until 2016.

It will be such sweet turnabout to use the Obama Precedent against Democratic programs in 2017. The Obamacare employer mandate is actually a tax enforcement statute. Having established that Presidents can simply decide not to enforce taxes they do not like, I can't wait for President Perry to start nixing taxes by executive fiat. Also, that pesky EPA that holds down economic growth? Sayonara sucker!

[Update 5:45pm] CAC has informed me that I misspelled "President Walker" in this post. I regret the confusion, but I was referring to the 46th President, Rick Perry, not the 45th President, Scott Walker, whom I'm sure you all fondly anticipate uses the Obama Precedent not to enforce the federal income tax. Again, I regret the confusion.

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1 Apparently , this is newsworthy .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 10, 2014 01:11 PM (XWw96)

2 He's got a pen and a phone, and he'll do what he damned well pleases.

Posted by: Crashpanic at February 10, 2014 01:11 PM (jWakl)

3 We could do worse than President Perry.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 10, 2014 01:12 PM (bb5+k)

4 The difference being, Republicans don't do these sort of things.  I'd like to see them, but they tend to have a better sense of...is it morality?..than Demoturds.

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 10, 2014 01:12 PM (GrtrJ)

5 Also, that pesky EPA that holds down economic growth? Sayonara sucker! I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 10, 2014 01:12 PM (x65HD)

6 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:13 PM (PYAXX)

7 This is, of course, bullshit. Obama is deliberately covering up the pain of his stupid idea so as to not affect the elections this year. If Republicans had a lick of sense, they would do everything in their power to make sure the pain hits this year. Pain is medicine for this nation. We need it.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 10, 2014 01:14 PM (bb5+k)

8 There is no rule of law anymore, we're officially a 3rd world country.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 10, 2014 01:14 PM (38LLM)

9 I hereby deem the EPA and IRS abolished. Works for me, whether it's a President Perry, Cruz or Paul.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 01:14 PM (olDqf)

10 It's really far past time for the House to impeach the MF. Yes, I know the Senate would never remove him from office, but either the House means something, or it doesn't.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:15 PM (PYAXX)

11 Congress has it made. JEF is doing their job and the USSC is doing their job.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 01:15 PM (XUKZU)

12 When the branch that is supposed to enforce the law is criminal,your country has a problem.A big problem.

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2014 01:15 PM (zqvg6)

13

A tax enforcement statute? Oh, okay. So the next GOP president can just waive income taxes for people making between $35,000 and $75,000 and buy some middle class votes? Cool!

Posted by: Warden at February 10, 2014 01:15 PM (HzhBE)

14 3 We could do worse than President Perry. Posted by: D-Lamp at February 10, 2014 05:12 PM (bb5+k) We already have been for 5 years. Plus 4 more under Jimmuh...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 01:15 PM (olDqf)

15 There is no rule of law anymore, we're officially a 3rd world country. A true statement since at least 2012.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:15 PM (PYAXX)

16 Raises glass , ladies and gentlemen , the king , long may he reign ! Oh wait , we haven't had a king since the late 1700's . At least that's what I've heard . I guess I was misinformed .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 10, 2014 01:16 PM (WK8VM)

17 I like the sound of that, "President Perry".

Posted by: wheatie at February 10, 2014 01:16 PM (eCZwh)

18 Pay no attention to this.... Look Gay football player!!!!

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at February 10, 2014 01:16 PM (9+ccr)

19 And elected Republicans let this happen why? No balls, no money.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 01:16 PM (EKOIc)

20 I like the sound of that, "President Perry". Posted by: wheatie at February 10, 2014 05:16 PM (eCZwh) I like the echos.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:16 PM (PYAXX)

21 Pain is medicine for this nation. We need it. --- We're going to see pain no matter what, given how huge of a clusterfuck this thing is. The one consolation to them continuing to drag it out over time is that this thing continues to be a festering sore on the Democrats. Now let's just hope the Republican leadership can remember to focus on that...

Posted by: Felonious Gru at February 10, 2014 01:16 PM (/Crba)

22 Obama has exempted the truth. 

Posted by: Hepcat at February 10, 2014 01:16 PM (Q4mug)

23 Yes, I know the Senate would never remove him from office, but either the House means something, or it doesn't. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 05:15 PM ------------------------------------------------ Yeah. It doesn't.

Posted by: TFG at February 10, 2014 01:17 PM (8GKDa)

24 He's got a pen and a phone,

-

 Cuervo Gold and fine Colombian.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 01:17 PM (XUKZU)

25 And elected Republicans let this happen why? Because actually acting to uphold Constitutional Principles might cost you votes.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:17 PM (PYAXX)

26 Look Gay football player!!!! --- Given that he's a defensive end, I think we can guess he's a pitcher and not a catcher.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 10, 2014 01:17 PM (/Crba)

27 Well, the $64 trillion dollar question is would a Constitutional Conservative act like a lawless dictator to destroy the workings of a lawless dictatorship that has usurped that selfsame Constitution? I'd look the other way.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 01:17 PM (olDqf)

28 Yeah the IRS is clearly impartial and not politicized in any way. If our media was so busy fighting over who was going to swallow Obama's load maybe they'd notice the constitutional crisis being created by this lawless behavior.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at February 10, 2014 01:17 PM (A1Dcl)

29 Pfft. Everyone knows that racist rocks mean a president has no moral authority to do stuff.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 10, 2014 01:17 PM (SUKHu)

30 I asked on twitter, and only half tongue-in-cheek, but at the rate of acquiescence by the right, what is to prevent Obama from decreeing absolutely anything he likes? 22nd Amendment? He is a petulant child and will absolutely, undoubtedly, push his limits until his ass is spanked, and hard. He has told us his plans but we never thought it was possible. He IS fundamentally transforming this nation.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 10, 2014 01:18 PM (DmNpO)

31 From the link:

"We think a phase-in approach is a way to administer the law better, and enhance overall compliance with the law," said the official.

And, a senior official noted when asked what legal authority the administration had to give the year reprieve to smaller businesses, "We've done it in a bunch of other areas."


Charles Manson will be relieved to hear this.  Apparently repetition = legality. 

Posted by: pep at February 10, 2014 01:18 PM (6TB1Z)

32 Though it's important to note the Republicans could make hay over *this* too. "What? We were told there was a health care crisis! We were told that people would die in the streets if this weren't passed forthwith. Yet now it seems that none of its provisions actually... address the supposed crisis. I mean, if they did, they wouldn't keep getting delayed, right?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:18 PM (PYAXX)

33 I would like to reiterate my request that if I have to live under a nation of men not laws that I would like to be under Andy Lau please.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at February 10, 2014 01:18 PM (VtjlW)

34 24 He's got a pen and a phone, - Cuervo Gold and fine Colombian. Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 05:17 PM (XUKZU) Hey nineteen. That's reefer FranklinÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 01:18 PM (olDqf)

35 And I read old Harry is gonna make some new rules in the Senate to make sure and pass through all those wonderful Judicial nominees..... Happy days!

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at February 10, 2014 01:18 PM (9+ccr)

36 Yes, I know the Senate would never remove him from office, but either the House means something, or it doesn't.

You and Gabe are really bringing the comedy here.


Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 10, 2014 01:18 PM (DL2i+)

37 Cuervo Gold and fine Colombian. Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 05:17 PM (XUKZU) Did you see the picture of him recently in which he appeared to be high? Many a true word is said in jest.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 10, 2014 01:19 PM (bb5+k)

38

Barky condemns the 1%-ers and then gives them preferential treatment like this?

 

This is a big "Fuck You" to all the struggling families out there.

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 10, 2014 01:19 PM (eCZwh)

39 You're telling me that Barack Obama doesn't follow the law? Laws passed by congress?

Posted by: Ice T in 2016 at February 10, 2014 01:19 PM (E8IHS)

40 Wouldn't someone who worked for one of these companies that's getting the delay have standing in court to bring suit and force the full implementation of the law?

Posted by: Dang at February 10, 2014 01:19 PM (MNq6o)

41 Ahhhh...Daddy Issues meets The Presidency. "I can to do whatever I want! Watch me! I'm smart and powerful and stuff! Why don't you love me and pay attention to me?!?!"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at February 10, 2014 01:19 PM (EsLl0)

42 Not a smidgeon of corruption at irs or anywhere else in this administration .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 10, 2014 01:19 PM (WK8VM)

43 Now let's just hope the Republican leadership can remember to focus on that...

Even more funnies.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 10, 2014 01:20 PM (DL2i+)

44 Remember, it was crucially important to have Obamacare enacted as law IMMEDIATELY, with not even one millisecond of delay for skeptical scrutiny, because innocent lives were at stake.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 01:20 PM (gqT4g)

45 This shit used to rate a flaming skull. Back in the good old days before amoral crap heads, oops! I meant progressives with royal delusions, became our rulers.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2014 01:20 PM (7ynIk)

46 And elected Republicans let this happen why?

How many divisions does Boehner have?

Posted by: pep at February 10, 2014 01:20 PM (6TB1Z)

47 "So let it be written; so let it be done." Oh except when I change it or modify it or ignore it or hey what's for lunch?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:20 PM (t3UFN)

48 Scott Walker needs to stomp this shit if he wants any cred. Has he started his campaign yet?

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 10, 2014 01:20 PM (E8IHS)

49 The difference being, Republicans don't do these sort of things. I'd like to see them, but they tend to have a better sense of...is it morality?..than Demoturds. Posted by: DangerGirl at February 10, 2014 05:12 PM (GrtrJ) They do moral, but timid. Imagine, if you will, the 80s LIbEral outcry if Ronaldus wielded his mighty, turgid staff of bureaucratic elimination like they pretend he did. No. He worked with a duplicitous, lying, backstabbing bunch of inveterate cocksuckers like O'Neill and the Hyannisport Oldsmobile salesman, got backstabbed and still managed to set us on course for economic take-off.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 10, 2014 01:20 PM (x65HD)

50 It will be such sweet turnabout to use the Obama Precedent against Democratic programs in 2017. The Obamacare employer mandate is actually a tax enforcement statute. Having established that Presidents can simply decide not to enforce taxes they do not like, I can't wait for President Perry to start nixing taxes by executive fiat. Also, that pesky EPA that holds down economic growth? Sayonara sucker! Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 05:10 PM Right... because Republicans are so well known for using the tools at their disposal to take controversial actions. I think you are pretending that the Republicans are not also a party of big government. What you are describing will never happen. Would be nice, but it's a pipe dream.

Posted by: Sambo at February 10, 2014 01:20 PM (kCxjF)

51 Raises glass , ladies and gentlemen , the king , long may he reign !
Oh wait , we haven't had a king since the late 1700's . At least that's what I've heard .
I guess I was misinformed .

-

I guess so. Jerry Rivers aka Geraldo Rivera attacked O'Reilly for questioning SCOAMF too harshly on Superbowl Sunday and denying his "majesty."

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 01:20 PM (XUKZU)

52
Complete lawlessness.

And PS - it gives insurance companies another year to raise premiums.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 10, 2014 01:21 PM (n0DEs)

53 So how are they gonna spin this though? I mean, how will the press deal with the humiliating clarity of this decision?
And more importantly, why did it take them this long to grok what an immense economic disaster the ACA is going to be when it takes full effect? Or did they know all along and just delay the decision until now?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2014 01:21 PM (zfY+H)

54 Eat Your Peas

Posted by: Barakhenaten I at February 10, 2014 01:21 PM (ee56k)

55 Posted by: Dang at February 10, 2014 05:19 PM (MNq6o) Look, it's a simple rubric. If your suit would cause the Left heartburn, you don't have standing. If your suit would cause the Right heartburn- or would allow the Left to do something they can't actually get the votes to enact- you have standing.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:21 PM (PYAXX)

56 45 This shit used to rate a flaming skull. Back in the good old days before amoral crap heads, oops! I meant progressives with royal delusions, became our rulers. Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2014 05:20 PM (7ynIk) Posting a Flaming Skull these days is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500Â… "The HORROR!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 01:21 PM (olDqf)

57 Because actually acting to uphold Constitutional Principles might cost you votes. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 05:17 PM Oh, now I feel better. Thanks for clarifying. On another note, we're boned.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 01:21 PM (EKOIc)

58 I can't wait for President Perry to start nixing taxes by executive fiat. Also, that pesky EPA that holds down economic growth? Sayonara sucker! He could do that to almost every alphabet agency anyway. Show where in the Constitution they are called for & they stay. Otherwise.......

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2014 01:21 PM (ix+5k)

59 I would like to see Perry elected President just to watch the heads of the 40% of this state's population that hates him explode. There is some serious Perry Derangement Syndrome down here-- but, you could probably guess that thanks to the fact that Wendy Davis exists.

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at February 10, 2014 01:21 PM (T+Zre)

60 The ratchet only goes one way you silly wingnuts, but I'd still like to see a group of employees sue to have this enforced so they can get their free shit.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 10, 2014 01:21 PM (kxSZr)

61 OK, so what happens when an employee of a firm that does not offer insurance (but is required to under the statute) sues their employer?

Posted by: CTD at February 10, 2014 01:21 PM (Tl68Q)

62 One thing for damn sure, not going to be any immigration stuff done now.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 01:22 PM (g1DWB)

63 It will be such sweet turnabout to use the Obama Precedent against Democratic programs in 2017.
-
That will never happen unless the House impeaches Obama for overreaching and the Donks acquit.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 01:22 PM (XUKZU)

64 Silly rabbits.  Executive orders are for Dems.  Only.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 10, 2014 01:22 PM (OZmbA)

65 A nation of laws, not men.  Hahaha, just kidding. 

Posted by: no good deed at February 10, 2014 01:22 PM (vBhbc)

66 Having established that Presidents can simply decide not to enforce taxes they do not like, I can't wait for President Perry to start nixing taxes by executive fiat.

Uh-oh.  CAC might have some words for you..

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 10, 2014 01:22 PM (SY2Kh)

67 I guess so. Jerry Rivers aka Geraldo Rivera attacked O'Reilly for questioning SCOAMF too harshly on Superbowl Sunday and denying his "majesty."

Did he really use that word?

Posted by: pep at February 10, 2014 01:22 PM (6TB1Z)

68 Gabe is assuming a) that Choom Boy will step down at the end of his second term, and b) that the Republicans will field someone who can actually beat the communistic, America-hating, man-hating, self-important scumbagess the Democrats will nominate.

You know what they say about the word "assume"....

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 10, 2014 01:22 PM (ff7/5)

69 62 One thing for damn sure, not going to be any immigration stuff done now. Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 05:22 PM (g1DWB) Obama will use executive "decree"Who's to stop him?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at February 10, 2014 01:22 PM (9+ccr)

70 Remember Obama's declaration against President Bush's use of executive orders in March of 2008? Good times, good times.
"The biggest problems that we're facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all. And that's what I intend to reverse when I'm president of the United States of America."
Of course, that wasn't the Barack Obama he knew. It was the work of an over zealous staffer. This is the first he's hearing of it. It was the fault of a YouTube video.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2014 01:23 PM (zfY+H)

71 President Obama is doing a great job. Why all the negativity?

Posted by: future President Joe Scarborough at February 10, 2014 01:23 PM (cGaCp)

72 I'd look the other way. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 05:17 PM (olDqf) Yep. I see nothing.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 10, 2014 01:23 PM (x65HD)

73 Just so you know, I interpret the thirteenth amendment as outlawing slavery, as reading "except for medical professionals.". Other interpretations will result in imprisonment.

Posted by: Hillary at February 10, 2014 01:23 PM (7ynIk)

74 He has told us his plans but we never thought it was possible. He IS fundamentally transforming this nation.

Trainwrecks are transformational.

I don't get the idea he'd try and stick as POTUS though.  He'll have all the pomp and attention he craves as an ex without any of that icky decision making.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 10, 2014 01:23 PM (DL2i+)

75 Obamacare : Game, sport, or competition?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 10, 2014 01:24 PM (aDwsi)

76 Hey, man, you don't talk to the President. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you. He won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say, "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you"... I mean I'm... no, I can't... I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's... he's a great man! I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas...

Posted by: Boner John at February 10, 2014 01:24 PM (XUKZU)

77 OK, so what happens when an employee of a firm that does not offer insurance (but is required to under the statute) sues their employer? Posted by: CTD at February 10, 2014 05:21 PM ---------------------------------------------------------- Wild guess? Lawyers will make money.

Posted by: irright at February 10, 2014 01:24 PM (8GKDa)

78 All of you noisy bratty little children out there in the grassroots in "flyover country" can just shut up and sit down. No, we're not going to use the upcoming debt ceiling crunch to defund even so much one polished penny of federal spending. No, we're not going to touch a hair on the head of Obamacare. No, we're not writing any articles of impeachment. No, we're not listening to anything you have to say. Not a word.

Why? Because we're your betters. And we know better than you.

Look at how much we've accomplished on your behalf!

Now send us money. Without any back talk.

Posted by: The Beltway GOP at February 10, 2014 01:24 PM (gqT4g)

79 The ratchet only goes one way you silly wingnuts

It does, until it doesn't.  It's like a tectonic fault.  Pressure keeps building and building, until something snaps and it's finally relieved in an immensely destructive event.  I fear that is what's coming.

Posted by: pep at February 10, 2014 01:24 PM (6TB1Z)

80 I glad I'm not alone in getting done by the kingly member.

Posted by: Reggie Love at February 10, 2014 01:25 PM (7ynIk)

81 I'd look the other way. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 05:17 PM (olDqf)


As would I.

However, I guarantee you, Democraps would immediately pursue impeachment charges and a few of our friendly neighborhood Republican quisling Senators would be more than happy to vote with them to take down a Conservative President.

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 10, 2014 01:25 PM (GrtrJ)

82 I told people on Volokh Conspiracy that the only way to stop Obama was the election in 2012 and they attacked me viciously, mocking my post. He's perceived to be black, so they don't want to seem racist by an impeachment, and congress considers that political poison anyway. And the Democrats will back him no matter what while he's doing what they like, so no overturning his decisions by law. He can literally do anything he wants, without exception or limitations and nobody will do a thing.
I think he's finally figuring that out.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2014 01:25 PM (zfY+H)

83 Counting from the most recent employee phone list, my workplace has 103 employees.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 10, 2014 01:25 PM (MVGKx)

84 As I said on twitter in response to ZeroHedge asking: "What was the roll call on the Obamacare delay vote?" Response: "IWON-0"

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 10, 2014 01:25 PM (E8IHS)

85 What?! What?! What?!

Posted by: John McCain at February 10, 2014 01:25 PM (7ynIk)

86 83 Counting from the most recent employee phone list, my workplace has 103 employees. Posted by: Serious Cat at February 10, 2014 05:25 PM (MVGKx) Time so start firing folks. Good luck!

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 10, 2014 01:25 PM (E8IHS)

87 Decree and deem. We are a banana-boat country, now.
And yeah, half the problem is barky- and the other half?
The "R's...."

Posted by: backhoe at February 10, 2014 01:25 PM (ULH4o)

88 I am on an individual plan.....once again, I am f****d.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 10, 2014 01:26 PM (l3vZN)

89 >>The ratchet only goes one way you silly wingnuts


And my threads are about to strip.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 10, 2014 01:26 PM (OZmbA)

90 Affirmative Action has consequences.

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 01:26 PM (PBejf)

91 "It will be such sweet turnabout to use the Obama Precedent against Democratic programs in 2017. The Obamacare employer mandate is actually a tax enforcement statute. Having established that Presidents can simply decide not to enforce taxes they do not like, I can't wait for President Perry to start nixing taxes by executive fiat. Also, that pesky EPA that holds down economic growth? Sayonara sucker!" It won't work. In a dysfunctional democratic republic which has shifted to a "hyperpresidential," but still electoral, and fundamentally shame-based form of governance, the Media becomes the deciding factor, and just as the Democrat Executive wields its power absolutely and absolutely despotically and capriciously, so too does the Democrat Media.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:27 PM (thBHI)

92 Sorry, but they've got pictures of me and Mitch McConnell fucking a kangaroo.

Posted by: J. Boner at February 10, 2014 01:27 PM (MMC8r)

93 At least banana republics had good weather. And bananas.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:27 PM (PYAXX)

94 I guess so. Jerry Rivers aka Geraldo Rivera attacked O'Reilly for
questioning SCOAMF too harshly on Superbowl Sunday and denying his
"majesty."

Did he really use that word?

--

Yes.

http://tinyurl.com/pn2hvjn

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 01:27 PM (XUKZU)

95 I'm so sick of all this shit. I keep getting re-call notices for recall to Active Duty but they are all for Junior Officers. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:27 PM (t3UFN)

96 Oh fuck it. So I screwed up. Maybe we do have to worry about Barack Obama in the White House,

Posted by: John McCain at February 10, 2014 01:27 PM (7ynIk)

97 The Obama Doctrine: What God wants, God gets.

Posted by: AMartel at February 10, 2014 01:27 PM (6EuOK)

98 Just start read the fucking bill in Congress with its dates. Every day over and over again until the start date is met. The President said 'Law of the Land' last year when they tried to delay it. So fucking start Impeachment the very day after the Law's start date.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 10, 2014 01:27 PM (9Bdcz)

99 I can't wait for 2017 when President Hillary! corrects this lawlessness.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 10, 2014 01:27 PM (38LLM)

100 gonna get a lot worse before this gets any better.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 10, 2014 01:27 PM (l3vZN)

101 Freedom from Contsitution-lock!!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2014 01:28 PM (POpqt)

102 63 It will be such sweet turnabout to use the Obama Precedent against Democratic programs in 2017. - That will never happen unless the House impeaches Obama for overreaching and the Donks acquit. Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 05:22 PM (XUKZU) ....and that will never happen. Wrongly, of course, impeaching Preznit fo shizzle would be gigantically unpopular with an undeniably sizable electorate that is galactically stoopid. And the Marxists all know it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 10, 2014 01:28 PM (x65HD)

103 Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 05:27 PM (thBHI) You're right. So the first thing you do is appoint a new head of the FCC to revoke all the licenses of every MFM broadcaster in the country.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:28 PM (PYAXX)

104 Oh fuck it. So I screwed up. Maybe we do have to worry about Barack Obama in the White House, Posted by: John McCain at February 10, 2014 05:27 PM (7ynIk) Yeah right up there with silly old senile bastards who don't know when to go home and fade away

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:28 PM (t3UFN)

105 Counting from the most recent employee phone list, my workplace has 103 employees. Protip: take your phone off the hook.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 10, 2014 01:28 PM (CnA98)

106 When I was involved with competitive debate about 6 years ago, we used fiat as a tool to hand-wave away too technical aspects of our proposals. competitors all understood that it was just an "unrealistic" tool designed to facilitate debate, but the concept did take a while for new judges and competitors to understand. With Barky, however, it's simpler to just call fiat an EO and be done with it. Thanks Mr. President!

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at February 10, 2014 01:28 PM (PGXA8)

107 Ummmm, isn't this what Cruz tried to shut the government down to get? Cruz with make a fine VP for President Palin

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 10, 2014 01:28 PM (fA5xz)

108 Pound it out on social media. No need to be too nasty right off the bat, either. At this point, you can just point and laugh at the absurdity of the Admin.'s constant reversals, refutations of their own law. If someone pokes up their pointy little head to say it's "just a website glitch" or "tens of millions are now insured!", then you know you have your huckleberry.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 10, 2014 01:28 PM (ZshNr)

109 Madame Empress HRC will enjoy using this precedence, for Her entire eight years. Maybe for life, after She waives that pesky amendment that might have limited Her terms.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 10, 2014 01:29 PM (tmFlQ)

110 Counting from the most recent employee phone list, my workplace has 103 employees. Posted by: Serious --------- There will be four short straws

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 10, 2014 01:29 PM (aDwsi)

111 Its true that a Republican president could do exactly the same thing, and survive their first and only term. They'd be villainized and demonized (rightly) by the press for shredding the constitution, but they could do it and get away with it. In the end, congress won't vote to impeach and remove a president, even a Republican one.
But the next president, voted in office as a horrified reaction by people conditioned to think of these acts as endless evil by the press and popular entertainment, would just reverse it all and go ten times further, claiming crisis.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2014 01:29 PM (zfY+H)

112 I need a fair-share lawyer to litigate this for me.

Posted by: toby928© at February 10, 2014 01:29 PM (QupBk)

113 Communism better than the Czar? Not so sure about that, especially if you are the Czar

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:29 PM (t3UFN)

114 At this point, Leftists basically make whatever rules they think are advantageous, and enforce them likewise.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:29 PM (thBHI)

115 I feel helpless and I fucking HATE to feel helpless.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 10, 2014 01:29 PM (DmNpO)

116 I can't wait for President Perry

She'll be eligible in 2016, so why not?

Posted by: HR at February 10, 2014 01:29 PM (ZKzrr)

117 Nice of him to leave the next president holding the bag.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2014 01:29 PM (POpqt)

118 I feel helpless and I fucking HATE to feel helpless. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 10, 2014 05:29 PM (DmNpO) Stick your head out the window and yell that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:30 PM (t3UFN)

119 Those crazy Tea Partiers aren't going to like this move. With the debt ceiling vote coming up, someone might even force me to include language forcing the President to enforce the law. What the fuck do I do now? Thanks TFG!

Posted by: John Boehner at February 10, 2014 01:30 PM (7ynIk)

120 Did he really use that word?
--
Yes.
http://tinyurl.com/pn2hvjn
Posted by: WalrusRex

Dear God, they really do want to be slaves, don't they?

I They should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas

Posted by: pep at February 10, 2014 01:30 PM (6TB1Z)

121 This continued claim of unlawfulness is ridiculous. The Executive branch's ability to change the timing for implementing the law is part of case law. So long as the delay isn't unreasonable (and not just unreasonable, but basically extremely unreasonable), the courts won't interfere. By constantly bleating about breaking the law, we come across as ignorant whiners. If Obama's past actions were truly unlawful, you can be sure a successful legal challenge would have been mounted. Same goes for this delay. Here's a hint: the courts will not interfere.

Posted by: Pigilito at February 10, 2014 01:30 PM (AW99N)

122 It does, until it doesn't. It's like a tectonic fault. Pressure keeps building and building, until something snaps and it's finally relieved in an immensely destructive event. I fear that is what's coming. Posted by: pep at February 10, 2014 05:24 PM (6TB1Z) As do I.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 10, 2014 01:30 PM (bb5+k)

123 when the IRS takes the penalty from my refund, can we get a class action lawsuit going..?

Posted by: Mallfly at February 10, 2014 01:30 PM (bJm7W)

124 Ace is in a Turkish prison again, isn't he?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 10, 2014 01:31 PM (rSe/u)

125 Next abolish the atf cause I want a suppressor for my 1911 and I want a belt fed weapon and something that shoots 20mm cannon rounds,that's all I want . And this mortar , that's all I want . And some claymores . That's it .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 10, 2014 01:31 PM (WK8VM)

126 You know what they say about the word "assume".... I actually don't. Please don't make assumptions.

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at February 10, 2014 01:31 PM (PGXA8)

127 Jesus beckel is a dumb fat fuck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:31 PM (t3UFN)

128 116 I can't wait for President Perry

She'll be eligible in 2016, so why not?

Posted by: HR at February 10, 2014 05:29 PM (ZKzrr)



Katy Perry?

Posted by: Sphynx at February 10, 2014 01:31 PM (OZmbA)

129 124 Ace is in a Turkish prison again, isn't he? --- Maybe he's hanging around a gymnaseum.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 10, 2014 01:31 PM (/Crba)

130 124 Ace is in a Turkish prison again, isn't he? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 10, 2014 05:31 PM (rSe/u) Replace prison with bath and you're getting a bit closer.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 10, 2014 01:31 PM (E8IHS)

131 It is the Dictatorship of the Vanguard of the Proletariat, and "the Proletariat" is ok with it because the Media refuses to "rouse the masses to action and activism against it." But obviously there would be much "rousing of the masses" against a Republican President perceived as having transgressed even in the slightest.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:31 PM (thBHI)

132 beckel is a dumb fat fuck You can't expect me to believe this snuck up on you?

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 01:32 PM (/cwZx)

133 "Jerry Rivers aka Geraldo Rivera attacked O'Reilly for questioning SCOAMF too harshly on Superbowl Sunday and denying his 'majesty'. Did he really use that word? Yes."

All the way back in 2008, I was already picking up on this from liberals.

If you criticized Obama, they wouldn't even bother to attempt to refute the criticism. It was directly to, "How DARE YOU question this man's integrity. This should NOT BE ALLOWED for ANYONE to say!"

It really is _lese-majeste_ thinking.

Critique equals attack. Attack equals crime. Because god-emperor. QED.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 01:32 PM (gqT4g)

134 I've always   pointed  out   that conservatives are courageous but not bold  and liberals are bold but not courageous.

Posted by: polynikes at February 10, 2014 01:32 PM (m2CN7)

135 Cruz with make a fine VP for President Palin The woman with 'a bridge to nowhere'? I can top that; a bridge you can never get across. * bludgeons aide who arrived late with donuts *

Posted by: Chris Christie [/i] at February 10, 2014 01:32 PM (CnA98)

136
so these dumbfucks finally figured out that healthplans made in Oct for the next year notify people before elections in Nov.

these people are brilliant I tell ya!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 10, 2014 01:32 PM (n0DEs)

137 beckel is a dumb fat fuck You can't expect me to believe this snuck up on you? Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 05:32 PM (/cwZx) just venting

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:32 PM (t3UFN)

138

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) released the following statement after the administration announced that the president has again unilaterally altered the implementation of ObamaCare.

“Once again, the president is giving a break to corporations while individuals and families are still stuck under the mandates of his health care law. And, once again, the president is rewriting law on a whim. If the administration doesnÂ’t believe employers can manage the burden of the law, how can struggling families be expected to? This continued manipulation by the president breeds confusion and erodes AmericansÂ’ confidence in him and his health care law.  We need fairness for all, with relief from ObamaCare for every American.”




The statement, read by The Speaker in a stumbling slurred voice, uncannily like the beloved "drunk" comedian Foster Brooks.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2014 01:32 PM (kdS6q)

139 128 116 I can't wait for President Perry She'll be eligible in 2016, so why not? Posted by: HR at February 10, 2014 05:29 PM (ZKzrr) Katy Perry? --- I overruled a law and I liked it... It felt so wrong It felt so right Don't mean I'm on the far right I overruled a law and liked it...

Posted by: Katy Perry's Funbags at February 10, 2014 01:32 PM (/Crba)

140 Perry is not going to be the next President.  The country wants no more Bushes and no more Texans.  Now Scott Walker -- major reforms in a very lib state.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 10, 2014 01:32 PM (Guupx)

141 Michael Wilbon. Also, a dumb fuck.

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 01:33 PM (/cwZx)

142 Ace is on a 3 day crying jag because of Bode Miller's terrible downhill finish.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 10, 2014 01:33 PM (38LLM)

143 Next abolish the atf cause I want a suppressor for my 1911 and I want a belt fed weapon and something that shoots 20mm cannon rounds,that's all I want . And this mortar , that's all I want . And some claymores . That's it . What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: a GAU-8 with a bayonet lug on each barrel, and a pistol grip at February 10, 2014 01:33 PM (PGXA8)

144 Oh thank god. Now that that's out of the way, will you wingnuts finally let us pass amnesty?

Posted by: The GOPe at February 10, 2014 01:33 PM (3a584)

145 >>>>Sorry, but they've got pictures of me and Mitch McConnell fucking a kangaroo.

Posted by: J. Boner at February 10, 2014 05:27 PM (MMC8r)<<<<<<


If you would get off your ass and oppose this motherfucker in the White House I would hold the goddamned kangaroo still for you.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 10, 2014 01:33 PM (P/gm7)

146 So the first thing you do is appoint a new head of the FCC to revoke all the licenses of every MFM broadcaster in the country. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 05:28 PM (PYAXX) We should have been playing this sort of hardball a long time ago.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 10, 2014 01:33 PM (bb5+k)

147 121 - Exactly. Because tax fee tax.

Posted by: John Roberts at February 10, 2014 01:33 PM (aDwsi)

148 The sooner you figure out its all screwed and we're not getting any better until it craters and we rebuild, the better off your ulcers will be. Some things you just have to be philosophical about, like wind and tide. Railing against it won't change a thing.
Great point about Ted Cruz though; he won, apparently.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2014 01:33 PM (zfY+H)

149 This continued claim of unlawfulness is ridiculous. The Executive branch's ability to change the timing for implementing the law is part of case law. So long as the delay isn't unreasonable (and not just unreasonable, but basically extremely unreasonable), the courts won't interfere.

Is it legal to drive 56mph in a 55mph zone?

Is it likely that the legal system will interfere with you doing so?

That the courts are reluctant to get involved in such matters does not imply that they're legal.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 10, 2014 01:34 PM (SY2Kh)

150 BTW, this is probably not a good thing for the Dems.  What do you think every Republican commercial is going to say:  "If you vote Dem, this time bomb goes off next year.  If you vote Rep, it gets defused."

Posted by: SFGoth at February 10, 2014 01:34 PM (Guupx)

151 President Hillary will really have a field day with the new, unopposed executive powers.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 10, 2014 01:34 PM (gUoN4)

152 Nice of him to leave the next president holding the bag. Seriously, if we had an electorate who were half as serious as they ought to be, Obama would be impeached- the people would demand it. Then the law would be repealed- again at populace demand. And the thing is, TFG knows it. That's why he keeps moving the dates. By keeping the dates in the future, he gets to claim all the "good" parts of ObamaCare (that is- the compliance stuff everyone already had to do, since he keeps playing this brinksmanship game) while not having to take the heat for the bad stuff (the actual employer mandate, for instance). And, yes, Congress should say "You took an oath to faithfully execute the Laws of the United States. You did not take an oath to re-write the Laws of the United States. This goes in on time, or you and your whole administration step down." But, of course, they won't. Because they're a) cowards, b) happy with the current arrangement, or c) both.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:34 PM (PYAXX)

153 Want my address to end in "Republic of Texas". Sick of this shit.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 10, 2014 01:34 PM (W5p55)

154 “President Obama is following his creative tweak or whatever word he wants to call it; he is free to flitter on his talent, skill,  passion, and aspirations all the while knowing he has provided health care to the land of the free.”

Posted by: San Fran Nan at February 10, 2014 01:34 PM (KQp38)

155 Jesus beckel is a dumb fat fuck You're telling me something I don't already know?

Posted by: Jesus, weed-whacker, leaf blower and border crosser [/i] at February 10, 2014 01:34 PM (CnA98)

156 *Adds Gabriel Malor to the list of "throne skull donors"*

Posted by: future-President Scott Walker at February 10, 2014 01:35 PM (Xh8/Q)

157 There was Ice Dancing on last night. Ace is still in his refractory phase.

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 01:35 PM (/cwZx)

158 #94 - Yes, Jerry "Dastardly" Rivers used the word "majesty" to describe our SCOAMF. He's not a bright man but if the last few years have taught us anything we've learned you don't have to be particularly bright, or victimized, to slap down that victim card and cry on Tee Vee.

Posted by: AMartel at February 10, 2014 01:35 PM (6EuOK)

159 Martinis are the food of the soul. I find SCOAMF is much easier to like after my third one.

Posted by: John Boehner at February 10, 2014 01:35 PM (7ynIk)

160 This isn't a hypothetical. It's what happened to W, and it's what would happen to Perry, who would find himself similarly unable to defend himself in the "court of public opinion" against a sustained agitprop campaign.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:35 PM (thBHI)

161 “Once again, the president is giving a break to corporations while individuals and families are still stuck under the mandates of his health care law. And, once again, the president is rewriting law on a whim. If the administration doesn’t believe employers can manage the burden of the law, how can struggling families be expected to? This continued manipulation by the president breeds confusion and erodes Americans’ confidence in him and his health care law. We need fairness for all, with relief from ObamaCare for every American.”

-

I, of course, aren't going to do a damn thing about it but cry and whine.

Posted by: Boner John at February 10, 2014 01:35 PM (XUKZU)

162 Cruz with make a fine VP for President Palin Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 10, 2014 05:28 PM (fA5xz) Damn. First, eliminating the EPA, then this? Back to the bunk.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 10, 2014 01:36 PM (x65HD)

163 Oh FFS! Real headline: "Good Sign for Jobs: Less Caution, More Quitting."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:36 PM (PYAXX)

164 Funny new Obamacare logo.

http://tinyurl.com/o3m638a

Posted by: The Hickster at February 10, 2014 01:36 PM (TI3xG)

165 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 05:27 PM (t3UFN)

You'd make a great deck officer on a destroyer!

Go for it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2014 01:36 PM (QFxY5)

166 Actually, #155, Beckel is a fuckin brilliant genius in comparison to Rivers.

Posted by: AMartel at February 10, 2014 01:36 PM (6EuOK)

167 Posted by: Pigilito at February 10, 2014 05:30 PM (AW99N) Is this a troll?

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 10, 2014 01:36 PM (bb5+k)

168

Posted by: Pigilito at February 10, 2014 05:30 PM (AW99N

 

You have your opinion and we have ours.  Many other  constitutional scholars believe Obama has exceeded his executive powers and have laid out the case quite convincingly.     The  Court has also found that the mandate penalty is a tax.   Does that make any opinion contrary to that silly?

Posted by: polynikes at February 10, 2014 01:36 PM (m2CN7)

169 A state of despotism is not conducive to healthy economic growth.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:37 PM (thBHI)

170 Who wants to see my latest selfie?

Posted by: Gerardo Rivera at February 10, 2014 01:37 PM (Aif/5)

171 This continued claim of unlawfulness is ridiculous. The Executive branch's ability to change the timing for implementing the law is part of case law. So long as the delay isn't unreasonable (and not just unreasonable, but basically extremely unreasonable), the courts won't interfere.

By constantly bleating about breaking the law, we come across as ignorant whiners.

If Obama's past actions were truly unlawful, you can be sure a successful legal challenge would have been mounted. Same goes for this delay. Here's a hint: the courts will not interfere.

Posted by: Pigilito at February 10, 2014 05:30 PM (AW99N)

 

OK, then, turn it around: Any person who refuses to abide by the ACA individual mandate to buy insurance and is fined by the government should sue, on the grounds of selective enforcement.  At least one court has already cited the selective enforcement as a reason for throwing out the contraception mandate for conscientious objectors. 

 

A law that is only selectively enforced should not be honored or obeyed by anyone, for it is illegitimate.   At some point you exempt so many people and businesses that anyone who actually complies is simply a chump.

 

This is how Obamacare gets killed.  When people simply start laughing at the government and refuse to comply with any of it.

Posted by: rockmom at February 10, 2014 01:37 PM (aBlZ1)

172 You'd make a great deck officer on a destroyer! Go for it! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2014 05:36 PM (QFxY5) Actually they just offered me the Head of the Medical/Dental Department on the Forrestal.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:38 PM (t3UFN)

173 Rick Perry is disqualified from being president because he had a racist rock.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 01:38 PM (XUKZU)

174 Real headline: "Good Sign for Jobs: Less Caution, More Quitting." --- Sounds like people playing online games... little caution then, when things start going bad, they rage-quit.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 10, 2014 01:38 PM (/Crba)

175 Aitch are aitch aitch are see. Sort of has a ring to it, don't it. HRH for life. Succeeded by Princess Chelsea. Coronations will take place at the White House, because the Capital will have been turned into a Holiday Inn Express, due to its not having any governmental function any longer.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 10, 2014 01:38 PM (tmFlQ)

176 I'm a bit weary of people who believe courts are the final authority on anything legal. You can be official and terribly wrong.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2014 01:38 PM (zfY+H)

177 Nor is it particularly otherwise desirable as Leftists are better positioned for it.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:38 PM (thBHI)

178 Yes, Jerry "Dastardly" Rivers used the word "majesty" *head --------> desk* *head --------> desk* *head --------> desk*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 10, 2014 01:38 PM (x65HD)

179 "And, yes, Congress should say 'You took an oath to faithfully execute the Laws of the United States. You did not take an oath to re-write the Laws of the United States. This goes in on time, or you and your whole administration step down.' But, of course, they won't. Because they're a) cowards, b) happy with the current arrangement, or c) both."

Both, of course.

I can't recall which one of the Horde deserves credit for it, but what they said was that the Beltway Republicans have no interest at all in trying to right the ship, but instead merely wish to secure their places in the first-class cabins.

Bang. On. The. Fucking. Mark.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 01:39 PM (gqT4g)

180 Actually, #155, Beckel is a fuckin brilliant genius in comparison to Rivers. Posted by: AMartel at February 10, 2014 05:36 PM (6EuOK) Ya know I go past geraldo's house twice a day on the way to work and home and i fart each time I pass it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:39 PM (t3UFN)

181 Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 05:33 PM (/cwZx)

Then you might like this....

http://tinyurl.com/8az4t4s

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2014 01:39 PM (QFxY5)

182 Actually they just offered me the Head of the Medical/Dental Department on the Forrestal. Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 05:38 PM (t3UFN) Heh.......

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 10, 2014 01:39 PM (x65HD)

183 Restoring the Separation of Powers and Constitutional governance in general should probably be some sort of top priority.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:39 PM (thBHI)

184 The Court has also found that the mandate penalty is a tax. Does that make any opinion contrary to that silly?

Dred Scott will be very disappointed.

Posted by: pep at February 10, 2014 01:39 PM (6TB1Z)

185 I'm a liking me these powers.

Posted by: Chairman, Provisional Revolutionary Council at February 10, 2014 01:40 PM (rSe/u)

186 "Dred Scott will be very disappointed. "
But his hair is kickin' and he plays a mean steel drum.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2014 01:40 PM (zfY+H)

187 Actually they just offered me the Head of the Medical/Dental Department on the Forrestal. Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 05:38 PM (t3UFN) Heh....... Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 10, 2014 05:39 PM (x65HD) A joke. It's being towed to the salvage yard to be taken apart piece by piece

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:40 PM (t3UFN)

188 But Gabe, I understand that is not the hill to die on?

Posted by: Saltydonnie at February 10, 2014 01:40 PM (i6shs)

189 Real headline: "Good Sign for Jobs: Less Caution, More Quitting." Yeah, that's a good sign, people saying, 'Why the f*ck should I fight traffic, snow and ice, everyday, when I can just go on the dole and make just as much money?" The liberal sycophants see it as a good sign, I see it as the urine soaked pants of the nearly deceased.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 10, 2014 01:40 PM (CnA98)

190 Oh FFS! Real headline: "Good Sign for Jobs: Less Caution, More Quitting." Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 05:36 PM (PYAXX) Woot! Keep quitting people I need even tiny party time income.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 01:40 PM (a8eFL)

191 My prediction?  PAIN

Posted by: Barry 'Clubber Lang' Soetoro at February 10, 2014 01:40 PM (Q6pxP)

192 I couldn't have a GAU 8 . I'd die of happiness and priapism .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 10, 2014 01:41 PM (WK8VM)

193 Actually they just offered me the Head of the Medical/Dental Department on the Forrestal.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 05:38 PM (t3UFN)

And the downside?

Because that sounds like a really nice upside.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2014 01:41 PM (QFxY5)

194 Rules?  I don't need no stinkin' rules

Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at February 10, 2014 01:41 PM (Q6pxP)

195 Funny new Obamacare logo.

http://tinyurl.com/o3m638a

-

Speaking of logos, Abortion Barbie has a classic.

http://tinyurl.com/ot6wc5x

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 01:41 PM (XUKZU)

196 The U.S. NavyÂ’s first supercarrier -- the long-decommissioned Forrestal -- has begun its final voyage to a Texas scrapyard, after the Pentagon tried to sell it, found no takers and had to pay a penny to get rid of it. The 1,067-foot ship, which was shut down in 1993 after more than 38 years of service, was being towed Tuesday morning down the Delaware River and along the Eastern Seaboard before crossing the Gulf of Mexico to reach All Star Metals in Brownsville. U.S. Navy officials signed a 1-cent contract with the Texas company in October to dismantle the ship perhaps best known for a 1967 incident that killed 134 and injured more than 300 others, including a young Navy aviator named John McCain. "We started our departure from the dock at 5:31 a.m.," All Star Metals President Nikhil Shah told FoxNews.com, adding that the trip should take roughly 17 days. "This is the largest ship that weÂ’ve ever dismantled, and the largest ship the U.S. government has ever awarded to be dismantled. ItÂ’s a very big job to us." Wish they could take that senile bastard from aAZ with her

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:41 PM (t3UFN)

197 And it still will be Republicans fault when the suckitude worsens.

Posted by: O-bah-muhh Media Lapdogs at February 10, 2014 01:41 PM (nbGZj)

198 didn't they sell the Forestall for a buck or a penny or something?

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at February 10, 2014 01:42 PM (q+zA9)

199 RB ‏@RBPundit 6m WHAT? That's monstrous! RT @pegobry While You Were Outraged Over A Dead Giraffe, Belgium Passed A Child Euthanasia Law http://t.co/vssIySElr1

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 10, 2014 01:42 PM (DmNpO)

200 You're never out of port, and the crew is amazingly healthy!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2014 01:42 PM (QFxY5)

201 180 Actually, #155, Beckel is a fuckin brilliant genius in comparison to Rivers.
Posted by: AMartel at February 10, 2014 05:36 PM (6EuOK)

Ya know I go past geraldo's house twice a day on the way to work and home and i fart each time I pass it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 05:39 PM (t3UFN)



Rivera, on the phone to Obama while tweaking his mustache:  "Your majesty, could I please request NSA surveillance and an IRS audit for an AOSHQ commentor named Nevergiveup ?

Posted by: Sphynx at February 10, 2014 01:42 PM (OZmbA)

202 It will be such sweet turnabout to use the Obama Precedent against Democratic programs in 2017.

You are optimistically assuming that the GOP doesn't throw away 2014 and 2016.  That's too optimistic.

Posted by: Null at February 10, 2014 01:42 PM (P7hip)

203 A joke. It's being towed to the salvage yard to be taken apart piece by piece Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 05:40 PM (t3UFN) I know that Joe, but thanks. Hence, the chuckle.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 10, 2014 01:42 PM (x65HD)

204 So if you own a small business and employ 118 individuals, what action will you take?

Good-bye 19 jobs, good-by job-lock to you happy few.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 10, 2014 01:42 PM (+YFcy)

205 Generally speaking, vanguard Leftists know exactly what they want and why they want it, and that is precisely why it is generally a bad idea to give it to them.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:43 PM (thBHI)

206

If we're going to get back to  Constitutional law, then we need to start getting back to Constitutional law.   Executive fiat is the same for repubs as it is for dems.  Let's  reform this clusterfuck that  we have now the right way. 

 

It really hurts to say this because I want to run roughshod over the dems too.  But we must return to the Constitutional law of the land  no matter how slow it will seem to take.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2014 01:43 PM (WjEUF)

207 You whiney punks are just jealous you're not a big bad sports journalist.

Posted by: Michael Wilbon at February 10, 2014 01:43 PM (Aif/5)

208 Checks and Balances?  Watch me balance this Czech on the edge of my bayonet

Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at February 10, 2014 01:43 PM (Q6pxP)

209 "If Obama's past actions were truly unlawful, you can be sure a successful legal challenge would have been mounted. Same goes for this delay. Here's a hint: the courts will not interfere." Sorry, that strikes me as ignorant of the doctrine of standing. The courts are not open to every dispute. Plaintiffs have to show some basis to argue for remedy. Who's harmed, directly, actionably, by this illegal delay of a mandate upon employers? The employers? No. Congress? No. State governors? No. The general public? No. The only ones who come to mind are insurers who lose the business, and the workers who won't be granted the bounty of Obamacare. And the harm of the delay hasn't happened yet, so the only relief they can for their thousands of dollars in legal fees, right now, is injunction preventing the harm of a delay from happening. And that's not something that can happen the same day of the announcement of the impending harm. If your point is, nobody sued and won in federal court over something the President did today, that's just silly.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 10, 2014 01:43 PM (5xmd7)

210 Absolute power is kind of an aphrodisiac for me.

Posted by: Helle Thorning-Schmidt at February 10, 2014 01:43 PM (F58x4)

211
Something About Amelia Ace

In this 1984 2014 TV movie, a young girl blogger shuts down after Ted Danson touches Amelia Ace in the no-no area.


Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at February 10, 2014 01:44 PM (+oin+)

212 You could set up a 200 yard range on the flight deck, shoot skeet off the stern, have awesome BBQs,....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2014 01:44 PM (QFxY5)

213 Alright I'm out of here. Got to home and choke down some of Mrs. Nevergiveup's gluten free tasteless food

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 01:44 PM (t3UFN)

214 They tend to play multidimensional chess, while Republicans prefer to eat the pieces.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:44 PM (thBHI)

215 Oh baby do me baby one more time.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at February 10, 2014 01:44 PM (Q6pxP)

216
Coulda been worse.   Coulda been the USS Scorpion.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2014 01:44 PM (nELVU)

217 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 10, 2014 05:42 PM (DmNpO) Yep. About what I expected. Just wait until it's mandatory!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 01:45 PM (a8eFL)

218 Personally, while I see the bureaucratic value of the principle of "standing" its ultimately just crap. If something is illegal or wrong then everyone is hurt by it, not just people who can demonstrate hurt to a judge's content.
I get that it stops at least some crappy lawsuits by lunatics trying to sue everything but some cases should obviously be open to anyone.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2014 01:46 PM (zfY+H)

219 >>>The U.S. NavyÂ’s first supercarrier -- the long-decommissioned Forrestal -- has begun its final voyage to a Texas scrapyard>>> Damn, I know where that is. I was across the channel from the scrapyard for seven months last year at Keppel AmFELS shipyard. I have to go pay my respects.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 10, 2014 01:46 PM (W5p55)

220 "Actually they just offered me the Head of the Medical/Dental Department on the Forrestal."

If that had actually happened, it would have hardly been a surprise. The dot-mil personnel systems are *SO* screwed up they are beyond parody.

I caught a piece about a decade ago about a surgeon who had spent his early career in uniform before leaving to work at a civilian hospital. He received a recruitment letter from the five-sided puzzle palace on the Potomac, inviting him to go back on active service as a military doc in the sandbox. Very favorable bonuses were offered.

He responded saying that he was always willing to answer his country's call in a moment of peril, but perhaps they should know first off that he was ninety years old and had not been in clinical practice for nearly two decades.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 01:47 PM (gqT4g)

221 This may be related ...


"major explosion" at the New Hampshire Ball Bearings, a unit of Japan's Minebea Co Ltd.

Posted by: Frankie Goes Machinist at February 10, 2014 01:47 PM (e8kgV)

222 Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2014 05:43 PM (WjEUF) The problem with that is that we don't then hold the Dems accountable. I'd agree with you if I thought that prosecutions would be forthcoming- having people striped of their pensions, Secret Service protection, etc. That is: if there were a significant downside to the Democrats for their bad behavior. As it stands, there is not. Thus our only option to cause them pain (pain is the only teacher humanity knows) is to engage in tit-for-tat.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 01:47 PM (PYAXX)

223

@218

 

Standing is and always has been a way for a feckless and impotent court to weasel out of having to make a tough decision.

Posted by: Jollyroger at February 10, 2014 01:47 PM (t06LC)

224 Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 10, 2014 05:43 PM (5xmd7) What about someone with 101 employees? Could they claim equal protection violation?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 01:47 PM (a8eFL)

225 heh Post update

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 10, 2014 01:47 PM (DmNpO)

226 Checks and balances are a good idea. Embracing Leftist notions of "Revolutionary Executive governance," not so much.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:47 PM (thBHI)

227 Wonder what it would take to rouse the Republicans to do something about Obama's selective enforcement of the law - maybe when he decides to ignore the 22nd Amendment?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2014 01:48 PM (POpqt)

228 It will be such sweet turnabout to use the Obama Precedent against Democratic programs in 2017.
---------

Stop it now, you go too far with the comedy, man!

You honestly believe that will happen?  If so, your credibility just vanished like a Dreamsicle on hot asphalt. And I thought you were a DC/Republican insider?

Or is this just rah-rah bullshit to encourage conservative turnout for Republican turncoats?

Posted by: Saltydonnie at February 10, 2014 01:48 PM (i6shs)

229 You could set up a 200 yard range on the flight deck, shoot skeet off the stern, have awesome BBQs,.... Can I use a Phalanx instead of a shotty for shooting that skeet?

Posted by: a GAU-8 with a bayonet lug on each barrel, and a pistol grip at February 10, 2014 01:48 PM (PGXA8)

230 Can I use a Phalanx instead of a shotty for shooting that skeet?

Posted by: a GAU-8 with a bayonet lug on each barrel, and a pistol grip at February 10, 2014 05:48 PM (PGXA

Only if you're launching cows instead of skeet.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 10, 2014 01:49 PM (+YFcy)

231
The Lightbringer also gave another hand out to community organizers to free up some walking around money for the election:

Treasury officials also revealed that volunteers at government or tax-exempt entities will not be considered full-time workers for the sake of the Obamacare mandate's calculations.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2014 01:49 PM (kdS6q)

232 Daily Reminder: You misspelled President Paul.

Posted by: Daily Reminder Guy at February 10, 2014 01:49 PM (6j8ke)

233 Meet up in Brownsville to view the Forrestal one last time and catch the spring flounder run?

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 10, 2014 01:49 PM (W5p55)

234 Meet up in Brownsville to view the Forrestal one last time and catch the spring flounder run?

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 10, 2014 05:49 PM (W5p55)

 

Boys Town ain't what it used to be so I'll pass this time. 

Posted by: polynikes at February 10, 2014 01:50 PM (m2CN7)

235 be granted the bounty of Obamacare. Bounty? Is that what they're calling government induced jugfucks these days? Huh....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 10, 2014 01:51 PM (x65HD)

236 Why is Obama job locking millions of workers?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 01:51 PM (g1DWB)

237 Well seeing as it is the Huntress'a birthday, tomorrow,. . .you forget the caterwailing from all of the media, including not a few of our Top Men. if we even entertained such a thing,

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at February 10, 2014 01:51 PM (Jsiw/)

238 Heh! Gabe has delivered with the post update.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2014 01:52 PM (F58x4)

239 President Obama “quipped” today during a visit to Monticello with the French president, “That’s the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want.”


I know one other person who says that - my sassy 11 year old son. Unlike our president, I know my kid will grow out of this know-it-all stage.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2014 01:52 PM (POpqt)

240 It is best to stick to principles, especially Constitutional principles, and to defend most thoroughly those principles that Leftists are most enthusiastic about abolishing, whether they be Checks and Balances, Limited Government, the Free Market, Freedom of Speech, the Right to Bear Arms, or anything else under attack at any given moment.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:52 PM (thBHI)

241
Wonder what it would take to rouse the Republicans to do something about Obama's selective enforcement of the law
Posted by: Lizzy




If he delayed spending the funds allocated for the Mitch McConnell Memorial Barge Canal and Jet-ski Park.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2014 01:52 PM (kdS6q)

242 Can I use a Phalanx instead of a shotty for shooting that skeet?

Sure thing.  Just fork over $1000 per second to cover ammo expenses.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 10, 2014 01:52 PM (SY2Kh)

243 You actually think there will ever be another Republican president? You're more optimistic than I am.

Posted by: whoever at February 10, 2014 01:53 PM (kGSN0)

244 Treasury officials also revealed that volunteers at government or tax-exempt entities will not be considered full-time workers for the sake of the Obamacare mandate's calculations. Meanwhile, in my neck of the woods (filled with Bible clinging, gun-toting Neanderthals, BIRM) volunteer firemen (and fire-women, I suppose) are about to go out of business because they are now going to have to provide ObamaCare insurance to volunteers. ''Nice house you have there, shame if something happened to it. '' Precedent 404Care

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 10, 2014 01:53 PM (CnA98)

245 >>Why is Obama job locking millions of workers?

Freedom from Constitution-lock.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2014 01:54 PM (POpqt)

246 So the Republicans SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT to try to get Obama to do this. he then does it anyway after HE let the government gat shut down. Way to go Baraka

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 10, 2014 01:54 PM (nTgAI)

247 "It will be such sweet turnabout to use the Obama Precedent against Democratic programs in 2017." Except I don't want ANYONE pulling this shit. But the die has been cast thanks to this worthless piece of shit and the damage done.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 10, 2014 01:54 PM (oFCZn)

248 Must stop reading internet. Must watch a comedy now. SYL

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 10, 2014 01:55 PM (DmNpO)

249 Suffering from Job-Lock?
Get Fast Relief with...
ØbamaCare*!!!






*Barack Obama and ObamaCare not responsible for any loss of income, employment, dignity, or anything else for that matter.

Posted by: Leftist Sloganeering at February 10, 2014 01:55 PM (3a584)

250 Gluten free really shouldn't be tasteless. You can use lots of spices on gluten free food. Maybe Mrs. Nevergives up needs some new cookbooks. The problem with gluten free is pasta-I haven't found an acceptable substitute yet

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2014 01:55 PM (XyM/Y)

251 Sure thing. Just fork over $1000 per second to cover ammo expenses. Quit using hyperbole, I'm not trying to buy .22lr.

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at February 10, 2014 01:55 PM (PGXA8)

252 The history of Panama and Manuel Noriega in many ways is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Fritz at February 10, 2014 01:56 PM (UzPAd)

253 You actually think there will ever be another Republican president? You're more optimistic than I am. Shit, at this point I'm not sure if we'll ever see an actual Democrat president ever again.

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at February 10, 2014 01:57 PM (PGXA8)

254 Google youtube has to be the most annoying pos software ever. Not only are they constantly demanding private info, they post your info all over the fucking web. And then for no reason, your account just disappears and I have no idea on how to sign on again to comment.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 10, 2014 01:57 PM (NRYdU)

255 This is not going to end well. The SCOAMF is pushing way too many people's buttons.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2014 01:57 PM (IXrOn)

256 Because, again, the Leftist intelligentsia has thought things through, and if Leftists seek to abolish or limit a fundamental principle of governance or societal organization in general, it is best to resist the desire to submit to their totalitarian demands.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 01:57 PM (thBHI)

257 Ssssssssssssssssssss...


*frantically increases length of fuse*

Posted by: The Fuse on the Employer Mandate Bomb at February 10, 2014 01:57 PM (8ZskC)

258 Actually, #155, Beckel is a fuckin brilliant genius in comparison to Rivers. Posted by: AMartel at February 10, 2014 05:36 PM (6EuOK) Ya know I go past geraldo's house twice a day on the way to work and home and i fart each time I pass it Maybe light one of your dastardly gaseous emissions on fire one of these days. Liven up everyone's day in a fittingly majestic way. Just a suggestion.

Posted by: AMartel at February 10, 2014 01:57 PM (6EuOK)

259 I like Drudge's pic of the JEF. Just like the braying jackass that he is.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2014 01:57 PM (IXrOn)

260 Before the Democrats can complain, I'd outlaw their party. Fucking with the Constitution cuts both ways, bitches.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 01:58 PM (olDqf)

261 Any mention of the _Forrestal_ causes an immediate internal conflict for me.

On the one hand, I have come to absolutely loathe John McCain.

On the other hand, I recall vividly back in 2008, when they considered McCain a proximate threat rather than a regular ally, how the institutional left ginned up one of the ugliest anonymous smear campaigns I have ever witnessed in my entire life, in which they accused McCain of personally starting the terrible fire on _Forrestal_ by pulling a reckless flight deck stunt.

Let's remind ourselves that this is not a trivial allegation about a minor incident. There was huge loss of life among the ship's complement. Basically they felt it was perfectly okay, on the basis of no evidence at all, to accuse McCain of mass homicide of his fellow servicemen.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 01:59 PM (gqT4g)

262 OT:  thanks to whichever 'ette recommended the Barleans coconut oil.  I have horribly dry skin in winter, to the point where I actually get rashes.  It has been a challenge to find anything that helps (Gold Bond Shea Butter lotion being about it) so I'm trying this out.  I'm really impressed at how quickly it absorbs and I smell like a dream lol.

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 10, 2014 01:59 PM (GrtrJ)

263 Time to go burn dinner. Later, fellow travelers...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 01:59 PM (olDqf)

264 Google youtube has to be the most annoying pos software ever. Remember, Microsoft bundling IE with its OS was an illegal monopoly. Google unilaterally combining all of your separate accounts and forcing you to have google+ is not.

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at February 10, 2014 01:59 PM (PGXA8)

265 I wonder how happy the insurance companies are right now. Aetna's CEO was saying that they may pull out of Obamacare if they don't start seeing an increase in enrollment. This won't help.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 02:00 PM (g1DWB)

266 Obama is very fortunate that his adverseries are a drunk and a guy who has no discernable neck. This shit does not happen on gingriches watch.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 10, 2014 02:00 PM (BNuW6)

267 262 OT: thanks to whichever 'ette recommended the Barleans coconut oil. I have horribly dry skin in winter, to the point where I actually get rashes. It has been a challenge to find anything that helps (Gold Bond Shea Butter lotion being about it) so I'm trying this out. I'm really impressed at how quickly it absorbs and I smell like a dream lol. Posted by: DangerGirl at February 10, 2014 05:59 PM (GrtrJ) Suggestion: Fill the largest stock pot you have with water and when it reaches the boiling point, turn it way down. Works like a charm and you don't have to deal with 'spenny and temperamental humidifiers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 02:01 PM (olDqf)

268 Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at February 10, 2014 05:59 PM (PGXA Microsoft wasn't greasing the politicians.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 02:01 PM (a8eFL)

269 (Gold Bond Shea Butter lotion being about it) so I'm trying this out. I'm really impressed at how quickly it absorbs and I smell like a dream lol. Posted by: DangerGirl at February 10, 2014 05:59 PM (GrtrJ) I use Palmer's Cocoa Butter Formula in the winter. Smells beautiful, too.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2014 02:01 PM (IXrOn)

270 Definitely a bad time to be employee number 100+ yeah. But hey, more free time to enjoy funemployment!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2014 02:01 PM (zfY+H)

271 266 This shit does not happen on gingriches watch. Posted by: Kreplach at February 10, 2014 06:00 PM (BNuW6) Tom Delay or Henry Hyde would kick SCOMAF's ass. Hard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 02:02 PM (olDqf)

272 Heh, I read this passage yesterday from a history of the British Empire. Apropos. "French colonial officers, like the British, imagined they had an interior quality which won them the heart of the natives. This was baraka, an inner spiritual charisma possessed by Muslim holy men which brought luck. The officer with baraka had, quite literally, a charmed life and appeared miraculously preserved in battle; it was General Franco's baraka which saved his life in battles in Morocco in the 1920s and won him the loyalty of Moroccan troops."

Posted by: logprof at February 10, 2014 02:02 PM (X3GkB)

273 "Microsoft wasn't greasing the politicians."
Exactly, that was all about punishing Microsoft for failing to pay tribute, not monopoly.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2014 02:02 PM (zfY+H)

274 If Conservatism refuses to defend the fundamental principles of the Constitution and the Founding, then it ceases to be Conservatism and becomes merely a chaotic reactionary movement which Leftists can easily outmaneuver and defeat. Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 10, 2014 02:03 PM (thBHI)

275 I wonder how hard legally it would be for a ~190 employee firm to become a ~95 employee firm which happens use contract employees from a new ~95 employee firm...

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at February 10, 2014 02:03 PM (PGXA8)

276 @271 Tom delay was an exterminator, he knew how to deal with vermin.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 10, 2014 02:04 PM (IS2o0)

277 259 I like Drudge's pic of the JEF. Just like the braying jackass that he is. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2014 05:57 PM (IXrOn) "Yay! I'm making all the grownups do what I want!"

Posted by: Mindy at February 10, 2014 02:05 PM (mQwL2)

278 That will never happen unless the House impeaches Obama for overreaching and the Donks acquit.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 10, 2014 05:22 PM (XUKZU)

 

 

Worried the public will be convinced by the media that any impeachment effort against President Obama is racially motivated, the House won't move on anything--no matter how illegal or unconstitutional--President Obama does. They don't have the stones for that kind of brinksmanship.

 

 

I, for one, am curious to see what the President does next. He can do anything he wants and no one can stop him. Maybe he'll go the Caligula route and name his dog Bo to the cabinet and declare war on Poseidon, god of the sea. At this point, anything's possible.

Posted by: troyriser at February 10, 2014 02:05 PM (gNlvW)

279 Okay... so I read that WSJ article ("Good job news! More people are quitting!") Their take- "Oh, well, some of them are quitting for a different job so that's a good thing." This great news? 1.8% of those still counted in the work-force left their jobs voluntarily in November. Here is a direct quote: "About 2.4 million workers resigned in November. Some retired or simply chose not to work. But most quit to hunt for a new job or because they had already found one." Get that? "Some" dropped out of the workforce all together. "Most" quit "to hunt for a new job OR because they had already found one." Way to carry the water, WSJ. Way to carry the water.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 02:05 PM (PYAXX)

280 employees from a new ~95 employee firm... Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at February 10, 2014 06:03 PM (PGXA I think they found a way to punish people for this. Not with laws, but with process! Yay IRS!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 02:06 PM (a8eFL)

281 264 Google is an enemy. Stopped using it a long time ago. I'm not going to defend Bing, but it's what I am using for the time being. Lesser of the evils at this point.

Posted by: John Roberts at February 10, 2014 02:08 PM (aDwsi)

282 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 06:05 PM (PYAXX) Whatever, frankly at this point if it opens up a job for me, I'd be happy. If it's going to burn (and it will) I'd at least like a few months of comfort and marital bliss first. And right now, lack of employment is in the way.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 02:08 PM (a8eFL)

283 Posted by: troyriser at February 10, 2014 06:05 PM (gNlvW) Does anyone else feel like the US Public is getting punked, and TFG is sitting in the WH saying "okay, this next one *has* to get them to react."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 02:09 PM (PYAXX)

284 "Tom Delay or Henry Hyde would kick SCOMAF's ass."

Really?

Because all I remember from DeLay was one huge porkfest. Not as bad as the later Pelosi porkfest, of course, but it was clear where his sympathies lay.

As for Hyde, I recall a cynical parody of "Dr. Jekyll and Congressman Hyde", in which Hyde was instead actually the mild-mannered of the two.

The only really fighting leader the GOP House contingent has had in living memory was Gingrich, and he had shitty judgement about which fights to pick.

(Hint: don't impeach a President over an adulterous affair while your own caucus is full of flagrant adulterers, including your own self. Lousy optics there.)

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 02:09 PM (gqT4g)

285 He can do anything he wants and no one can stop him. Maybe he'll go the Caligula route and name his dog Bo to the cabinet anddeclare war on Poseidon, god of the sea. At this point, anything's possible.

Posted by: troyriser at February 10, 2014 06:05 PM (gNlvW)


Well, hell, he already married his horse.

Posted by: tcn at February 10, 2014 02:09 PM (fwcEs)

286 Obama is blatantly preventing the LIVs from thinking about an issue that should be paramount in the 2016 election. What makes Gabe and CAC think it's in the bag for the GOP if they won't voice the slightest objection to this crap?

Posted by: Epobirs at February 10, 2014 02:09 PM (bPxS6)

287 Posted by: John Roberts at February 10, 2014 06:08 PM (aDwsi) And now we know why you thought it was a tax! (says the guy on a surface.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 02:09 PM (a8eFL)

288 Lesser of the evils at this point.

Posted by: John Roberts at February 10, 2014 06:08 PM (aDwsi)


Duck duck go.

Posted by: tcn at February 10, 2014 02:10 PM (fwcEs)

289

281...Posted by: John Roberts at February 10, 2014 06:08 PM (aDwsi) 

 

Use DuckDuckGo.

It's a great alternative...I've been using it for a couple of years now.

Posted by: wheatie at February 10, 2014 02:10 PM (eCZwh)

290
Works like a charm and you don't have to deal with 'spenny and temperamental humidifiers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 10, 2014 06:01 PM (olDqf


We already have a humidifier, which does help, I just have super sensitive skin that has major reactions to cold, dry weather (among other things) so I need a boost even with throwing humidity in the air. 

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 10, 2014 02:11 PM (GrtrJ)

291 Obama is blatantly preventing the LIVs from thinking about an issue that should be paramount in the 2016 election. What makes Gabe and CAC think it's in the bag for the GOP if they won't voice the slightest objection to this crap?

1.  They have objected.
2.  Most people either don't know or care.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 10, 2014 02:12 PM (SY2Kh)

292 And right now, lack of employment freedom is in the way. Suck it winger. You are all about freedom til it happens to you. Tell it to the Iraqi and Afghan children!

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2014 02:14 PM (4+AaH)

293
Maybe he'll go the Caligula route and name his dog Bo to the cabinet
Posted by: troyriser




That would be the first time we would have a cabinet secretary that could lick hims own genitals.

Well --- technically the second.  I keep forgetting about Robert Reich, and it was, after all, just that once.....


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2014 02:14 PM (kdS6q)

294 1. They have objected. 2. Most people either don't know or care. Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 10, 2014 06:12 PM (SY2Kh) Yeah, that's kind of the point. You don't get to claim "I objected" when you only say it to people who already agree with you. That's not "objecting" that's "bitching." It would not be that difficult to start taking out 30 second spots highlighting the worst abuses of the Administration. You probably couldn't get them on MSLSD or CNN, but you could get them on local affiliates. Hit the purple and light blue areas hard.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 02:14 PM (PYAXX)

295 If it's so illegal then take him to court and get a writ of mandamus. But no one will. The fact is the Republicans are too cowardly to anything about his lawlessness and approve of his refusal to enforce the law. Romney also promised to use his executive authority to exempt everyone from the individual mandate.

Posted by: Naes1984 at February 10, 2014 02:15 PM (LiHKo)

296 I've got a feeling this new "king" power will be wrangled in as soon as a Republican becomes President.  Suddenly the Supreme Court will decide that have to intervene, but only when it's not racist, you simply have to let the black President do whatever he wants.

Posted by: McAdams at February 10, 2014 02:15 PM (oaxOd)

297 Forget it, Ace...it's ObamaTown.

Posted by: --- at February 10, 2014 02:16 PM (MMC8r)

298 Does anyone else feel like the US Public is getting punked, and TFG is sitting in the WH saying "okay, this next one *has* to get them to react." He best hope they don't. Because the only one making money then will be undertakers.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2014 02:16 PM (ix+5k)

299 CAC has informed me that I misspelled "President Walker" in this post. There will be no President Walker. I will take over, and establish the Sith Empire of America. I will abolish the Senate, crush Syria, eliminate the Iranian nuke program and dare the Chinese and Rooskies to fuck with us. President Putin, I have altered our bargin. Pray I do not alter it further.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at February 10, 2014 02:16 PM (1hM1d)

300 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 06:14 PM (PYAXX) Dude I've said this before, my wife is "average voter." She doesn't understand this and an attempts to explain it to her result in eyes glazing over. The country is boned because voters don't care.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 02:17 PM (a8eFL)

301 "You don't get to claim 'I objected' when you only say it to people who already agree with you."

And you also don't get to claim that you objected when you have a wholly Constitutional tool in your hands with which to express that objection, but fail to do so. To wit, the power of the purse which the House is abjectly terrified of actually using.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 02:17 PM (gqT4g)

302 Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at February 10, 2014 06:16 PM (1hM1d) No homo, but can I have your babies?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 02:17 PM (PYAXX)

303 It would not be that difficult to start taking out 30 second spots highlighting the worst abuses of the Administration. You probably couldn't get them on MSLSD or CNN, but you could get them on local affiliates. Hit the purple and light blue areas hard.

That whistling sound you hear is your hypothetical ad going in one ear of the squishy middle and out the other, unimpeded.




Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 10, 2014 02:18 PM (SY2Kh)

304 187. A joke. It's being towed to the salvage yard to be taken apart piece by piece ~~~sob~~~ My first ship

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 10, 2014 02:18 PM (fA5xz)

305 LOL, you folks actually think Walker or another GOP establishment hack will use the power that Obama does and just eliminate income tax and other others things by fiat!? HA HA HA Republicans don't do that sort of shit. The left will do anything. Republicans are too worried about what the media will say about them and the people , AKA sheep will believe it.

Posted by: Dan at February 10, 2014 02:18 PM (COpZ4)

306 @ Polynikes 168 Such an opinion may not have been silly, but it was certainly wrong given the court's decision. If folks feel Obama's delay is either unconstitutional or illegal, lay out the case. Nothing I've read from the conservative side is convincing (admittedly, I've not read all). On the other had, there is ample precedent for Obama's actions, and if the courts refuse to step in, that makes it pretty hard to argue unconstitutionality/illegality. Especially with so many conservatives looking to take Obamacare down, you'd think the courts would soon be inudated. At the very least, we'd here about the legal theory that some future plaintiff will use. @Rockmom 171 Good luck with that legal theory. @Ballsz 209 No, that wasn't my intent. I should have been clearer. But if you believe that an injunction over this will be issued and (more importantly) upheld, then we see things differently. The Executive branch has already issued several delays and alterations to Obamacare. After each one we hear complaints that Obama lacks the authority to do so. How many courts have agreed with them (and certainly there are folks with standing willing to go to court). None that I know of.

Posted by: Pigilito at February 10, 2014 02:19 PM (AW99N)

307 He has a drivers license and a mirror, and is not afraid to use them.

Posted by: Haywood Jablowme at February 10, 2014 02:19 PM (VKuLo)

308 Damn gabe You misspelled President Palin twice

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 10, 2014 02:19 PM (fA5xz)

309

299
CAC has informed me that I misspelled "President Walker" in this post.

 

There will be no President Walker.

 

 

I will take over, and establish the Sith Empire of America. I will abolish the Senate, crush Syria, eliminate the Iranian nuke program and dare the Chinese and Rooskies to fuck with us. 

 

 

 

President Putin, I have altered our bargin. Pray I do not alter it further.

 

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at February 10, 2014 06:16 PM (1hM1d)

 

---------

 

This is...so hawt.

 

*fans self*

Posted by: wheatie at February 10, 2014 02:20 PM (eCZwh)

310 >>And you also don't get to claim that you objected when you have a wholly Constitutional tool in your hands with which to express that objection, but fail to do so. To wit, the power of the purse which the House is abjectly terrified of actually using. How would they use the power of the purse to stop Obama from delaying the implantation of a law?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 02:20 PM (g1DWB)

311 This business will get out of control! It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it!

Posted by: Adm. Josh Painter at February 10, 2014 02:21 PM (vbK1S)

312 She doesn't understand this and an attempts to explain it to her result in eyes glazing over. Of course they do, because those attempts aren't in 30 second (really 20 after all the hoopla) spots designed to simply assert something as wrong. Call it the "Did you Know?" campaign. You could put up billboards: "Did You Know?: Barack Obama left 4 brave Americans to die in a terrorist attack on 9/11/2012." "Did You Know?: Barack Obama has refused to sign laws modifying effective dates for ObamaCare, only to turn around and issue those changes by Executive Fiat." And so forth.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 02:21 PM (PYAXX)

313 How would they use the power of the purse to stop Obama from delaying the implantation of a law? Cut his salary to 0? That's actually one I'd love to see in a budget battle one day. Not even drop it to zero, but to something like 45k/yr.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 02:23 PM (PYAXX)

314 man curling on cnbc.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 02:23 PM (EKOIc)

315 "Did You Know?: Barack Obama has refused to sign laws modifying effective dates for ObamaCare, only to turn around and issue those changes by Executive Fiat." And so forth. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 06:21 PM (PYAXX) "So? This doesn't affect me." "But Obamacare is bad, so he's helping." "he can do that." Dude humans want to believe everything is OK, they'll keep lying to themselves until they die.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 02:23 PM (a8eFL)

316 man curling on cnbc.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 06:23 PM (EKOIc)

 

 

ice or barbells?

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at February 10, 2014 02:24 PM (q+zA9)

317 What makes Gabe and CAC think it's in the bag for the GOP if they won't voice the slightest objection to this crap? They seem to think that the public's objection to Obamacare will tsunami the GOP into power. Anything they do will just distract from / impede that action. Therefore, do nothing. I disagree. I think that if the GOP give the public nothing to vote for, the public will slouch away and things will stay essentially the same.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 10, 2014 02:24 PM (45N4D)

318 Well, hell, he already married his horse.

Posted by: tcn at February 10, 2014 06:09 PM (fwcEs)


I thought he appointed him Secretary of State.

Posted by: some old guy at February 10, 2014 02:25 PM (2DunM)

319 >>I disagree. I think that if the GOP give the public nothing to vote for, the public will slouch away and things will stay essentially the same. Not a single endangered Democrat Senator agrees with you. None of them want Obama to campaign with them. Not one.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 02:25 PM (g1DWB)

320 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 06:23 PM (a8eFL) It's not just once. It's saturation. Fill the air-waves (as much as you can) with it. Take out billboards every 5 miles. Half(ish) of the People didn't get to thinking that homosexual marriage should be codified into law because of one, or even 10, episodes of Will and Grace. Nevertheless, the constant drumbeat from the Left is what moved that needle.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 02:26 PM (PYAXX)

321 ice or barbells? heh. ice.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 02:26 PM (EKOIc)

322 "Did You Know?: Barack Obama left 4 brave Americans to die in a terrorist attack on 9/11/2012." I'd rework this to include all the people that didn't die too. They left something like 40 people to die. Only four died because of the actions of some brave and selfless people.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 10, 2014 02:26 PM (45N4D)

323 They left something like 40 people to die. Only four died because of the actions of some brave and selfless people.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 10, 2014 06:26 PM (45N4D)

 

 

and not one peep from any of the 40 who were evacuated.....

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at February 10, 2014 02:27 PM (q+zA9)

324 man curling on cnbc.
Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 06:23 PM (EKOIc)


Dear Lord in Heaven above, what the hell are the Norwegians wearing?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 10, 2014 02:28 PM (Gk3SS)

325 #312

Put a phrase like 'Executive Fiat' on a billboard and you've already lost. I'd be willing to bet that a majority of voters cannot come up with a definition of fiat beyond the car maker. Likely even fewer who understand what powers are vested in the executive branch.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 10, 2014 02:28 PM (bPxS6)

326 #150 Schar's GF pasta is fairly good. Expensive though.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at February 10, 2014 02:28 PM (A1Dcl)

327 Not a single endangered Democrat Senator agrees with you. None of them want Obama to campaign with them. Not one. Realizing that he's dead-weight is not the same as the voters voting GOP en mass. Yes, TFG makes them more vulnerable (and a good opponent doesn't even need SCOAMT to campaign with them), but if the GOP doesn't say "Here is what we're going to do," and "Here is our positive vision of the future" then I think they're going to lose seats they really should be able to win. Not all of them- some of those "endangered Democrats" are dead pols walking. But some. Perhaps enough to let the Democrats keep the Senate.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 02:28 PM (PYAXX)

328 Posted by: Pigilito at February 10, 2014 06:19 PM (AW99N)

The courts have traditionally been very, very reluctant to get involved with disputes between the legislative and executive branch concerning procedural and jurisdictional matters.

That they haven't gotten involved does not imply approval.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 10, 2014 02:29 PM (SY2Kh)

329 Dear Lord in Heaven above, what the hell are the Norwegians wearing? Clown pants designed by one of the team.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 02:30 PM (EKOIc)

330 Mondrian pants. Well that's interesting .

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2014 02:30 PM (P6QsQ)

331 Not a single endangered Democrat Senator agrees with you. None of them want Obama to campaign with them. Not one. I don't believe that contradicts what I said. The Democrats don't want to draw the connection between what Obama is doing and what they're doing. That doesn't elect GOP members. If the GOP excites no one, how do they expect to draw votes? The public could choose to vote for neither, and the Dems could still win based on fraud and the die-hards.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 10, 2014 02:30 PM (45N4D)

332 Posted by: Epobirs at February 10, 2014 06:28 PM (bPxS6) I was giving a couple of general themes. I don't expect they'd be perfect as-is. You could use "imperial overreach" or "executive overreach" or "unconstitutional power-grab" or any number of things.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 02:30 PM (PYAXX)

333 man curling on cnbc. I have 'The Who' playing at 120 db on my telescreen. Subwoofer is dancing across the floor. This is how I deal with the shitty daily dose of reality. Though hearing 'we won't get fooled again' seems to be a message that about 52% of the voters can't fathom.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 10, 2014 02:30 PM (CnA98)

334 "How would they use the power of the purse to stop Obama from delaying the implantation of a law?"

Legislatively defunding critical components, of course.

Back in the Eighties, the Reagan administration wanted to explicitly fund the operations of the Nicaraguan contras.

Left-wingers in the Congress who disagreed, and who actually had the intestinal fortitude to use the power of the purse against an incumbent President, then inserted appropriations language which specifically forbade any federal funding for the contras -- the Boland amendments.

And then they dared Reagan to veto those budgets containing those prohibitions.

Reagan folded. (And then tried the ridiculous gambit of extralegal funding which eventually exploded as the Iran-Contra Affair.)

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 02:30 PM (gqT4g)

335 Clown pants designed by one of the team. Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 06:30 PM (EKOIc)


Horrifically, they would actually go with the USA's opening ceremony flag sweaters.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 10, 2014 02:31 PM (Gk3SS)

336 Is Ace still sick?

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2014 02:31 PM (P6QsQ)

337 Yay! I finally get to go home! Bye.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 10, 2014 02:32 PM (PYAXX)

338 #250 Barilla has started selling their GF pasta in the US too.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at February 10, 2014 02:32 PM (A1Dcl)

339 Gabe, thanks for filling in for Ace.

Posted by: Mindy at February 10, 2014 02:32 PM (mQwL2)

340 "I can ride a bike with no handlebars
no handlebars
no handlebars"
-Flobots (probably about Dubya, but as always everything bad about Dubya can be multiplied tenfold with TFG)

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 10, 2014 02:32 PM (30eLQ)

341 and not one peep from any of the 40 who were evacuated..... Haven't they peeped in closed Congressional sessions? Given how aggressively Obama is going after "leakers", and the fact that the survivors were forced to sign non-disclosure, I think it's understandable they'd try to get their story out through Congressional investigation.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 10, 2014 02:33 PM (45N4D)

342 Ronald Reagan = Augustus
George W Bush = Tiberius
Barack H Obama = the next couple emperors after Tiberius

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 10, 2014 02:33 PM (30eLQ)

343 >>Realizing that he's dead-weight is not the same as the voters voting GOP en mass. He's not dead weight, he is a toxic wasteland. Look at what Begich in Alaska is saying about Obama. He is running against Obama. Pollster after pollster is predicting a very favorable 2014 election cycle for Republicans and a very bad one for Democrats. And its still only February. People don't want to hear political ads right now. Don't worry, they will be pounding Obama relentlessly once campaign season starts in earnest. And just like Boehner said the other day when pulling the plug on immigration reform Republicans don't trust Obama because he is acting outside the law.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 02:33 PM (g1DWB)

344 We can, without hyperbole, say that Obama is literally a dictator.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 10, 2014 02:34 PM (XvHmy)

345 As the Mandate is a TAX, according to Chief Justice Roberts... And thus this changes TAX law??? How? And note... its only for Employers of 50-100.... we now have REALLY unequal taxation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 10, 2014 02:34 PM (84gbM)

346 >>323 and not one peep from any of the 40 who were evacuated..... Posted by: The Obvious Sock at February 10, 2014 06:27 PM (q+zA9) << I'd hazard a guess that the survivors have been "asked" to not be troublemakers.

Posted by: Mindy at February 10, 2014 02:36 PM (mQwL2)

347 >>Legislatively defunding critical components, of course. Critical components of what?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 02:36 PM (g1DWB)

348 Hat: the word for t.f.g. is "tyrant".

Dictators were (by Roman law) term-limited for the time of the emergency, and expected to step down.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 10, 2014 02:37 PM (30eLQ)

349 Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 06:30 PM (gqT4g) Problem is that to use Funding as an enforcement mechanism... you must have a Budget, and regular spending Bills... Not one huge omnibus... where he will just shift money into the accounts he wishes to spend money on...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 10, 2014 02:38 PM (84gbM)

350 Horrifically, they would actually go with the USA's opening ceremony flag sweaters. Posted by: alexthechick Pattern, possibly. Colors, no. Lauren uses richer/darker tones.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 02:38 PM (EKOIc)

351 >>>I'd hazard a guess that the survivors have been "asked" to not be troublemakers.

Posted by: Mindy at February 10, 2014 06:36 PM (mQwL2)<<<



You could say that. But we wouldn't recommend it.

Posted by: DOJ, IRS, NSA... at February 10, 2014 02:38 PM (vbK1S)

352 Garcon!  Refill por favor.  Toot Suite!

Posted by: John Boehner at February 10, 2014 02:39 PM (BAS5M)

353 I'd hazard a guess that the survivors have been "asked" to not be troublemakers. Isn't it public knowledge the survivors were forced to sign NDAs?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 10, 2014 02:39 PM (45N4D)

354 >>>>George W Bush = Tiberius<<<<

That's not fair.

Tiberius ran a surplus.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 10, 2014 02:39 PM (P/gm7)

355 Clearly the answer to the lawlessness of this administration is to offer comprehensive support to the lawlessness of our Mexican immigrant population.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 10, 2014 02:40 PM (0jFxY)

356 Those Norwegian Curling Pants look like CAC Election Maps.

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 02:41 PM (UQJVl)

357 @ Piglito Ah OK. "What about someone with 101 employees? Could they claim equal protection violation?" I'd say no, since that is like suing the Justice Department to ignore heroin the way they ignore weed in CO. However, if you have the money, go for it! If Obama wins some lawsuit on the grounds he has Double Secret Waivers, the appeals for that may sync with your appeal for your claim to Inequal application of Double Secret Waivers, and the apparent conflict might put you in the Supreme Court. Though why he'd obey the Supreme Court I dunno.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 10, 2014 02:41 PM (5xmd7)

358 Isn't it public knowledge the survivors were forced to sign NDAs? Posted by: bonhomme at February 10, 2014 06:39 PM (45N4D)


Our pastor told a joke in church on Sunday about TFG having drones to use on all the people who criticize him.  No one laughed which you could tell surprised him.   All I could think is that no one is laughing because the idea of TFG using drones on his critics isn't funny. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 10, 2014 02:42 PM (Gk3SS)

359 #348

Frequently due to blood loss.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 10, 2014 02:42 PM (bPxS6)

360 In episode maybe 10 of Netflix's "House of Cards," Kevin Spacey's character, playing the scheming Democrat house whip, murders another Dem congressman for political expediency, and I thought, In many ways, that's the story of Hillary Clinton. Or that is what Zombie Vince Foster told me.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 10, 2014 02:42 PM (tmFlQ)

361 "Heckuva job, Sejanus"

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 10, 2014 02:42 PM (5xmd7)

362 Did anyone notice the low melanin content of the Norwegian and US curling teams? What's up with that?

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 02:43 PM (EKOIc)

363 "Critical components of what?"

Of Obamacare, obviously.

A ton of Obamacare implementation and funding goes through HHS. The House could slash HHS funding to the bone. Or explicitly defund the entire department, transferring its critical responsibilities (i.e., non-Obamacare responsibilities) elsewhere. Throw Sibelius out in the street.

The House could also insert legislation explicitly ruling out the use of any federal funding to rescue insurance companies that are in over their heads with Obamacare. (This would result in the immediate exit of Aetna, who are already publicly very nervous about the lossmaking potential for themselves, and likely of others.)

Obamacare promises the states federal reimbursement for the Medicaid signups that have come via the Obamacare exchanges. The House could take a meat ax to those reimbursements, and leave the states which have heavy Medicaid burdens to pick up the extra costs ahead of schedule, which would be a lovely thing to watch those predominantly Obama-fellating blue states endure.

(I live in Commiefornia. That would be an iceberg below the waterline for this state's finances. A disaster for we Commiefornians. But so much fun.)

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 02:43 PM (gqT4g)

364 What can elected Republicans "do" about this?  People reflexively blame Republicans when Obama pulls shit like this, but what can half the legislative branch to do stop something like this?

Who has standing here?  A large business suing because they say it's unfair?

Posted by: McAdams at February 10, 2014 02:44 PM (oaxOd)

365 The peeps in Pennsylvania who have gone five days without electricity are going to have to endure temps in the 10 degree or less range tonight. Still waiting for Jerry Rivers to appear on scene. But it's only Bible-clinging, gun-toting white people, so no foul.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 10, 2014 02:44 PM (CnA98)

366 I just noticed the awesome belts and belt buckles that the Norwegian team is wearing.


I'm thinking some drug testing might be in order.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 10, 2014 02:45 PM (Gk3SS)

367 BTW Petraeus is supporting Hillary and practically begging for a position in her administration if se gets one he's dead to me he has no honor

Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 02:45 PM (zOTsN)

368 "Did anyone notice the low melanin content of the Norwegian and US curling teams? What's up with that?"

It is of course entirely unpossible for the Norwegians to be outperforming the USA in their Olympic medal count. It must be a tabulation error if it appears that way.

They lack the American secret weapon of "diversity", which as we all know is the most powerful force in the universe, magically enabling superior outcomes wherever it is applied.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 02:46 PM (gqT4g)

369 How come no one is talking about Ace's disappearance? Those useless co-bloggers know but aren't talking. So, Ace must be dead or in a hospital or something.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 10, 2014 02:47 PM (NRYdU)

370 Petraeus is supporting Hillary and practically begging for a position in her administration if se gets one he's dead to me he has no honor Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 06:45 PM (zOTsN) Which is always the problem with pushing high ranking pentagon types for political office: Ya just don't really know them and let's not forget how much ass they had to kiss to get where they are. And of course the best example of that is that rat bastard traitor colin

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 02:48 PM (nzKvP)

371 >>>"Heckuva job, Sejanus"<<<<<

Heh.

Have you ever seen the I, Claudius series?

Patrick Stewart was the perfect Sejanus.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 10, 2014 02:48 PM (P/gm7)

372 When the kind kicks the bucket, they don't inform people right away so the underlings can duke it out for power. It happened to Henry the VII and Stalin. So, which one of the co-bloggers is Beria?

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 10, 2014 02:48 PM (NRYdU)

373 #363

And the immediately goes into a full court press on how the GOP wants to kill off the poor and low income by denying them health care.

Denying Reagan funds to support foreigners against other foreigners was very safe by comparison. This would be denying funds to an entitlement program. That has always gone so well in the hearts and minds department. Which is why entitlements are so powerful a corrupting force.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 10, 2014 02:49 PM (bPxS6)

374 Obama is playing to his base with his governing by decree. They love it. The far left is all for it. The LIVs like the way he thumbs his nose at the hated Rethuglikkkans. And let's face it, most blacks don't have a problem with the "Big Man" type of government. Look at Africa.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2014 02:50 PM (sdi6R)

375 >>Of Obamacare, obviously. Nope. Once again, the vast amount of spending in the ACA is statutory. It is built into the law. Which is one of the reasons why the shutdown was not going to work. http://tinyurl.com/l44ebly Even those portions that are discretionary, Obama's got multiple different funding sources even if Congress cut him off.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 02:50 PM (g1DWB)

376 #373

That should be 'and the left' at the start of my last comment.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 10, 2014 02:51 PM (bPxS6)

377 Agh! Those pants! I've been blinded and that's why we're sucking so bad.

Posted by: USA curling skip at February 10, 2014 02:51 PM (vbK1S)

378 "370 Petraeus is supporting Hillary and practically begging for a position in her administration if she gets one" So besides blackmail we now have a good idea why he allowed Bengazi to get thrown under the bus.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at February 10, 2014 02:51 PM (A1Dcl)

379 IMO Petraeus is paving the way to his next career path on the bodies of the Benghazi four

Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 02:53 PM (zOTsN)

380 Red Eye is going to air opposite the Russia v USA Women's Curling match, tonight. Tough Decisions.

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 02:54 PM (UQJVl)

381 I'm sure they have some kind of quid pro quo in place

Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 02:54 PM (zOTsN)

382 365 The peeps in Pennsylvania who have gone five days without electricity are going to have to endure temps in the 10 degree or less range tonight. Posted by: Regular Moron at February 10, 2014 06:44 PM (CnA9 My power was out for just 30 hours, and the indoor temperature got down to 46º. I'd hate to think what it would be by now if I hadn't gotten my power back Thursday afternoon. Oh, and I'm hearing talk of a possible major snowstorm for Wednesday night into Thursday morning. Moar global warming!

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2014 02:54 PM (sdi6R)

383 How come no one is talking about Ace's disappearance? Those useless co-bloggers know but aren't talking. So, Ace must be dead or in a hospital or something fapping. Posted by: Judge Pug at February 10, 2014 06:47 PM (NRYdU) Fixed.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 10, 2014 02:54 PM (XvHmy)

384 IMO Petraeus is paving the way to his next career path on the bodies of the Benghazi four Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 06:53 PM (zOTsN) nah he is finished. he just doesn't know it yet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 02:55 PM (nzKvP)

385 Petraeus has always shied away from politics, but in a new book he is quoted lavishing so much praise on Hillary Clinton, he seems to be endorsing her as a candidate for President. “She’d make a tremendous president,” Petraeus says in the new book “HRC” by Jonathan Allen and Aimee Parnes. And for Petraeus, Exhibit A in why she would be a tremendous president is the very thing for which Republicans most aggressively attack Clinton: her performance as Secretary of State when the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, was attacked. “Like a lot of great leaders, her most impressive qualities were most visible during tough times,” Petraeus tells Allen and Parnes. “In the wake of the Benghazi attacks, for example, she was extraordinarily resolute, determined, and controlled.” from ABC

Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 02:55 PM (zOTsN)

386 >>Even those portions that are discretionary, Obama's got multiple different funding sources even if Congress cut him off. Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 06:50 PM (g1DWB) << If that were true, they would have passed the proposed "hardline" Republican budget, and then used all that funding with a grin. The fight arose because contrary to lameass Republican excuses, a ban on the use of discretionary tax dollars would seriously pinch the Obama Administration. Unauthorized allocation of federal funds is a felony, and it's a crime only government employees can commit. You don't see MS-13 charged with subreption of federal property.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 10, 2014 02:55 PM (5xmd7)

387 In case you aren't depressed enough,Lena Dunham got a $3.7 million advance for her next book.

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2014 02:56 PM (zqvg6)

388 Petraeus is actively trying to "inoculate" her on Benghazi he is loathesome

Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 02:57 PM (zOTsN)

389 385 She resolutely and determinedly avoided all responsibility.

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2014 02:58 PM (zqvg6)

390 "Nope. Once again, the vast amount of spending in the ACA is statutory. It is built into the law. Which is one of the reasons why the shutdown was not going to work. ... Even those portions that are discretionary, Obama's got multiple different funding sources even if Congress cut him off."

Well, gee, let's go look at those "sources".

Per your link, one big one is an HHS slush fund. But if HHS gets a fat cut to its budget of the sort previously suggested, say thirty percent off the top, there ain't gonna be much slush left in that fund.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 02:58 PM (gqT4g)

391 Per your link, one big one is an HHS slush fund. But if HHS gets a fat cut to its budget of the sort previously suggested, say thirty percent off the top, there ain't gonna be much slush left in that fund. Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 06:58 PM (gqT4g) First thing they'd do is shut down the NIH, and we'd never hear the end of "dying cancer kids."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 10, 2014 02:59 PM (a8eFL)

392 #374

That is a scary thought. I didn't bring it up in the Sunday Book Thread because I was only about 20% into it but the book I'm forcing myself to read right now is called 'Dancing In The Glory of Monsters.' It deals with the situation in the Congo, Rwanda, etc., in recent decades. Trying to make sense of it is horribly depressing. The prospect of heading down that path here is pure horror.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 10, 2014 02:59 PM (bPxS6)

393 >>The fight arose because contrary to lameass Republican excuses, a ban on the use of discretionary tax dollars would seriously pinch the Obama Administration. Unauthorized allocation of federal funds is a felony, and it's a crime only government employees can commit. You don't see MS-13 charged with subreption of federal property. Huh? The Senate didn't pass a budget in Obama's entire first term and refused to even vote on the House's budget. In the absence of a budget Obama did what he wanted. And it is true about the funding for Obamacare. Its right in the law. You remember the old we have to pass it to see whats in it? Surprise.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 02:59 PM (g1DWB)

394 I remember when some conservatives were hoping that Petraeus would run for the Republican nomination. I never understood that. I knew nothing about his political philosophy, and I don't know why some people just assumed that he was conservative.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2014 02:59 PM (sdi6R)

395 Petraeus is smoothing the path for Hillary because he recognizes her long history of discreetly excusing blatant horn-dog conduct.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 03:00 PM (gqT4g)

396 How would they use the power of the purse to stop Obama from delaying the implantation of a law? Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 06:20 PM

You talking about Stalwart Republicans like Boner, Bitch McConnell, Cantor, et al?

They hit Choom Boy with their fucking purses. Then kiss the booboo to make it all better....

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 10, 2014 03:01 PM (ff7/5)

397 Moar global warming! I'm conflicted as to who is the bigger embarrassment to Penn State University and the state of Pennsylvania; Jerry Sandusky or Michael Mann. Notice that I'm not saying that Michael Mann took a child into a shower and rubbed his genitalia all over him. Not that I witnessed, anyway. Or that Michael Mann has admitted to. People are gonna die of hypothermia tonight in my neck of the woods. This kind of weather occurs in the New England states. It has now moved south into the Middle Atlantic states. Seems some sort of trend there * scratches head* .

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 10, 2014 03:01 PM (CnA98)

398 Welp.   I think this is the perfect visual representation of where we're at as a country right now.


http://bit.ly/1ocLdOv

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at February 10, 2014 03:01 PM (Gk3SS)

399 Worried the public will be convinced by the media that any impeachment effort against President Obama is racially motivated, the House won't move on anything--no matter how illegal or unconstitutional--President Obama does. They don't have the stones for that kind of brinkmanship. === The lesson, then, if the people really want Constitutional government, is to never elect another black president. Or, for that matter, a woman or minority.

Posted by: whoever at February 10, 2014 03:02 PM (kGSN0)

400 Hey Petraeus  if you have dirt on HC steer clear of Fort Marcy Park.

Posted by: Vince Foster at February 10, 2014 03:02 PM (TI3xG)

401 The prospect of heading down that path here is pure horror.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 10, 2014 06:59 PM

Does the book mention Choom Boy's terrorist relative, Cousin Odinga?

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 10, 2014 03:02 PM (ff7/5)

402 And I, being a conservative, am supposed to support a Walker or a Perry if they are planning to crap on the Constitution? This is the difference between the Tea Party conservatives and you GOP Establishment bloggers: As long as the GOP is in power of the overreaching all emcompassing behemoth of a government, you are all for it. As for us Tea Party folks, every adjective in that sentence makes us puke.

Posted by: doug at February 10, 2014 03:03 PM (uJ8q7)

403 >>>Red Eye is going to air opposite the Russia v USA Women's Curling match, tonight.
Tough Decisions.
Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 06:54 PM (UQJVl)<<<



Hmm. How hot is the Russian team?

If not so much, go with Red Eye. At least there'll be JoNo.

Posted by: USA curling skip at February 10, 2014 03:04 PM (vbK1S)

404 Apparently laws are all optional now.

Except laws forbidding us from hunting Democrats. Not enforcing those laws would be really bad, I guess.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 10, 2014 03:04 PM (c6N69)

405 "The Senate didn't pass a budget in Obama's entire first term and refused to even vote on the House's budget. In the absence of a budget Obama did what he wanted."

You're eliding a step here, which is the House meekly rolling over and voting for continuing resolutions, which are the way that the money gets doled out in the absence of proper budget agreements.

Which is something they do not necessarily have to do.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 03:04 PM (gqT4g)

406 “Like a lot of great leaders, her most impressive qualities were most visible during tough times,” Petraeus tells Allen and Parnes. “In the wake of the Benghazi attacks, for example, she was extraordinarily resolute, determined, and controlled.”


from ABC

Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 06:55 PM (zOTsN)

Those words must have different meanings in his world.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2014 03:04 PM (pFqpP)

407 This is the difference between the Tea Party conservatives and you GOP Establishment bloggers: As long as the GOP is in power of the overreaching all emcompassing behemoth of a government, you are all for it. As for us Tea Party folks, every adjective in that sentence makes us puke. Posted by: doug it was sarcasm doug lighten up and stop saying silly things like "You Republican establishment bloggers" you must be new here

Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 03:05 PM (zOTsN)

408 It is of course entirely unpossible for the Norwegians to be outperforming the USA in their Olympic medal count. It must be a tabulation error if it appears that way. They lack the American secret weapon of "diversity", which as we all know is the most powerful force in the universe, magically enabling superior outcomes wherever it is applied. Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 06:46 PM (gqT4g) --Whatever. Everyone knows that Muslims invented curling.

Posted by: logprof at February 10, 2014 03:06 PM (X3GkB)

409 #401

Not so far, about halfway through. But if his activities are mainly in and around Kenya, that is very far away from the region this book covers. It's a big continent. The continental US would fit three time into Africa.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 10, 2014 03:07 PM (bPxS6)

410 I never understood that. I knew nothing about his political philosophy, and I don't know why some people just assumed that he was conservative. Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2014 06:59 PM (sdi6R) He is apparently an opportunist who would sell his own mother, or in his case wife, down the river to get ahead. Which would explain he allegiance to the the Clintons. Birds of a feather tend to flock together

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2014 03:07 PM (nzKvP)

411 Continuing resolutions must be passed,government shutdowns are the worst thing ever.The worst.

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2014 03:07 PM (zqvg6)

412 Dear Lord in Heaven above, what the hell are the Norwegians wearing?

Posted by: alexthechick

Um, actually, I designed those. You like 'em?

Posted by: Satan at February 10, 2014 03:08 PM (080XV)

413 >>“In the wake of the Benghazi attacks, for example, she was
extraordinarily resolute, determined, and controlled.

Resolute in her claims that it was caused by an obscure YouTube video.
Determined to not let her incompetence derail her presidential ambitions.
Controlled the investigation to ensure that the truth about her behavior before, during and after the attack would not come out.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2014 03:11 PM (POpqt)

414 I remember when then senator Clinton harangued Petraeus during a Senate hearing, with that comment about his testimony requiring "a willing suspension of belief" or something, implying that he was a liar. This remark was the jumping off point for that whole "General Betray-us" media thing. I guess he must have forgiven her for that.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2014 03:11 PM (P6QsQ)

415 like I said, no honor he is a whore and they have clearly settled on a price

Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 03:12 PM (zOTsN)

416 I'm worried about Ace. Seriously. He's not on the blog. The co-bloggers won't talk. He's not on twitter. He may be pulling a Phllip Seymour Hoffman -- lying on his bathroom floor with god knows what stuck in his arm.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 10, 2014 03:12 PM (NRYdU)

417 I guess he must have forgiven her for that. Posted by: grammie winger at February 10, 2014 07:11 PM (P6QsQ) Or she has pictures of him in a compromising position with another man or animal. Who knows, at this point I'm beginning to believe that Obama and company has something on everyone.

Posted by: spypeach at February 10, 2014 03:14 PM (10H0T)

418

There's a book coming out, written by 'survivors' of Benghazi...

 

They are keeping their identities "confidential".

[How does that work?]

 

"Thirteen Hours: A Firsthand Account Of What Really Happened In Benghazi"

-- that's the title of the book.

 

And Paramount is in talks for the movie rights...before the book even comes out.

 

From an article at Deadline.com, linked at Drudge:

 

"The book, scheduled for publication in late spring, was written by author Mitchell Zuckoff with surviving members of the Annex Security Team who fought the battle. Their names are being kept confidential."

 

So...I'm wondering if this will be the Truth, or a whitewash.

Posted by: wheatie at February 10, 2014 03:15 PM (eCZwh)

419 392 #374 That is a scary thought. ... The prospect of heading down that path here is pure horror. Posted by: Epobirs at February 10, 2014 06:59 PM (bPxS6) During the Clinton impeachment, I saw a black woman interviewed on TV. She said, "He de head man! Why dey be runnin' down de head man?" That is exactly what she sounded like. I remember it like it was yesterday.

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2014 03:15 PM (sdi6R)

420 >>>He may be pulling a Phllip Seymour Hoffman -- lying on his bathroom floor with god knows what stuck in his arm.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 10, 2014 07:12 PM (NRYdU)<<<



Except this time, it'll be the Ace of Hearts brand heroin that does it.

Posted by: irony at February 10, 2014 03:16 PM (vbK1S)

421 I assume Hillary has promised Petraus something big, like a new young chickie, if she wins.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 10, 2014 03:16 PM (NRYdU)

422 If I could take the opportunity to rant a little bit; as someone who went without heat, hot water, and the usual comforts of life for the past five days; I got really pissed off when our local newsradio station hourly reported the 'outages'. I looked at the WeatherUnderground radar image minutes before we lost power. The freezing rain line was well above Philadelphia. 750,000 households lost electricity above that line. Something like 5,000 lost (or claimed to have lost) power in Philly. The number of outages in the 'burbs' dropped by the thousands every hour in the 'burbs' while the number in Philly dropped by single digits. Apparently some people in Philly thought they could cash in by claiming an outage; sending sorely needed crews to verify their lies, while the Bible clinging/gun toting peeps in the 'burbs' shivered as their homes approached the freezing point. I've had it with that city and it's people. The FSA deserves a special place in hell.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 10, 2014 03:16 PM (CnA98)

423 Judge Pug, I'm guessing he has responsibilities today.

Posted by: Mindy at February 10, 2014 03:17 PM (mQwL2)

424 >>You're eliding a step here, which is the House meekly rolling over and voting for continuing resolutions, which are the way that the money gets doled out in the absence of proper budget agreements. And you're ignoring the fact that up until Obamacare exploded on the launch pad the Republicans had exactly zero leverage. He was getting away with shit right and left and the msm was covering for him and the public by and large did not give a shit. Obama was way more popular than Republicans in Congress no matter what happened, Republicans got blamed. We do have one example of Republicans fighting back hard with Obama, the shut down. By any measure that was a win for Obama and a clear loss for Republicans. Had Obamacare not imploded 2014 would be an entirely different electoral picture. Sure, the House Republicans could have refused to sign a continuing resolution, aka shut down the government repeatedly, but what evidence do you have that it would have worked any better than the one last October?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 03:17 PM (g1DWB)

425 which is the House meekly rolling over and voting for continuing resolutions, which are the way that the money gets doled out in the absence of proper budget agreements. Which is something they do not necessarily have to do. Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2014 07:04 But Claire McNumbskull said passing CR's was the same as passing budgets. The Senate has spoken. So there.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 10, 2014 03:19 PM (EKOIc)

426 The Norwegians stole their pants from Piet Mondrian:

http://tinyurl.com/lyonbo4

Posted by: Retread at February 10, 2014 03:19 PM (cHwk5)

427 Ace is probably off selling the joint to Salem. So get your cock holsters in while you can.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2014 03:19 PM (4+AaH)

428 During a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee in September 2007, Petraeus testified that the surge of additional troops into Iraq and led to a dramatic decrease in violence. Then-Senator Clinton said Petraeus’s assessment required “a willful suspension of disbelief.” Clinton’s courtship of her erstwhile foe began shortly after President-elect Obama nominated her as Secretary of State in 2008. She invited Petraeus, then the military’s top commander for the Middle East, to her home in Washington, D.C., to share a bottle of wine and talk about the Middle East. Allen and Parnes write that the session went so well, she invited him back for another meeting the following night, and another bottle of wine. After Petraeus was forced to resign as CIA Director over an extramarital affair, Clinton sent him a note expressing sympathy and harkening back to her struggles on the other side of an adultery scandal. “I have a little experience,” she wrote.

Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 03:19 PM (zOTsN)

429 Ace is probably lost in the ball pit at the local Burger King, again.

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 03:20 PM (UQJVl)

430 Regular Moron: Five days! Yikes! Mine was out for three days after Sandy, and that's the worse outage I've ever experienced. Have you gotten your power back yet?

Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2014 03:20 PM (sdi6R)

431 "Except this time, it'll be the Ace of Hearts brand heroin that does it."

There should be a Valu-Rite brand herrone.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at February 10, 2014 03:22 PM (hHc+X)

432 423 Judge Pug, I'm guessing he has responsibilities today. Posted by: Mindy at February 10, 2014 07:17 PM (mQwL2) If that were the case, he would have just said so. No, he's lying in a coma somewhere.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 10, 2014 03:22 PM (NRYdU)

433 >>>Ace is probably off selling the joint to Salem.<<<


If they try to hold us down they'll get cunt-punted. But first they will blow me.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at February 10, 2014 03:25 PM (vbK1S)

434 So what you're saying is Patraeus banged Hillary?

Posted by: Adam at February 10, 2014 03:25 PM (Aif/5)

435 Gabe Would that be "President Walker, Texas Ranger"?

Posted by: cowboyup at February 10, 2014 03:26 PM (wG6KW)

436 Oh and...

Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom!

New thread.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at February 10, 2014 03:26 PM (vbK1S)

437 Cankle Fucking is a thing?

Posted by: garrett at February 10, 2014 03:27 PM (UQJVl)

438 Have you gotten your power back yet? Yes, thanks. Late Saturday night/Sunday morning power (an out-of-state crew - thank them very much), FIOS today. We hit 40 degrees for a low. One fireplace, one wood stove cranked as high as my lousy wet low btu pine tree cuttings would allow. I'm never going into another winter without a generator. Maybe not the biggest, but I want a hot shower every day. Going four days without? Not my finest hour.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 10, 2014 03:27 PM (CnA98)

439 I'm saying that after she brought him low by outing his affair she promised to resurrect his career if he supported her on Benghazi a quid pro quo

Posted by: thunderb at February 10, 2014 03:27 PM (zOTsN)

440 Know what?  I frankly don't want to pay for this shit anyway, so fuck you Barry.

Posted by: wth at February 10, 2014 03:31 PM (wAQA5)

441 70 Remember Obama's declaration against President Bush's use of executive orders in March of 2008? Good times, good times. "The biggest problems that we're facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all. And that's what I intend to reverse when I'm president of the United States of America." Posted by: Christopher Taylor That would make a great commercial. Run that clip of JEF, then have the exemptions and other illegal EOs listed, preferably by that clown Carney.

Posted by: The Farmer at February 10, 2014 03:35 PM (eBupg)

442 Her Royal Highness will change Her title, by royal decree, to "Precedent." And it will come to pass.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 10, 2014 03:35 PM (tmFlQ)

443 Just like I told that kindred spirit French Pres. Hollande, today while breaking the rules touring Monticello...

...“That’s the good thing as a president, I can do whatever I want.”

Posted by: SCOAMT at February 10, 2014 03:36 PM (vbK1S)

444 I knew nothing about his political philosophy, and I don't know why some people just assumed that he was conservative. Posted by: rickl at February 10, 2014 06:59 PM (sdi6R) === Liberals hate the military. Military tends to be conservative. (This may no longer be true.) Therefore the assumption that he was a conservative. We were wrong.

Posted by: whoever at February 10, 2014 03:48 PM (kGSN0)

445

JackStraw, I am aware of no measure by which the "shutdown" was a win or loss for anyone.  Maybe I missed something.  I do know that the exits in VA did not show it hurting Cuccinelli, which is about the best real-world proxy I can think of (timing, extent of welfare, er, government employment in VA).

 

Regardless, the GOP lacks "leverage" in actually insisting on lawful governance, with respect for example to budgets, because it simply lacks the will.  Or, alternatively, we have a situation where there really is no rule of law whatsoever, and the GOP lacks leverage because there exists no mechanism in the system to require compliance with the constitution and law in governing the country.  No other possibility, logically speaking.

 

The primary control mechanism that actually is in the constitution, and which has in practice been the major "lever" for limiting lawlessness, is in fact the House's power of the purse.  It has even sufficed for forcing national security disasters on the country, and that area is constitutionally dominated by the executive (abandonment of South Vietnam prior to the Northern offensive in 1975).   The House simply refuses to use that power.  CRs serve to gut the House's normal budget clout - heck that was true back when they usually were for 1 month or so.  Now that they have essentially replaced the appropriations process, the House has in effect ceded its key power.

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 10, 2014 03:52 PM (afQnV)

446 Piglito: "here is ample precedent for Obama's actions," Indeed...by the Stuart kings of England. One lost his throne and another lost his head because of it. The "take care" clause of Article II was a conscious rejection by the Framers of any assertion of quasi-legislative powers by the executive branch in light of this comparably recent history. The President can act on statutory authority granted by Congress: the President cannot suspend the law. "
he pretended power of suspending of laws, or the execution of laws, ... is illegal." -- English Bill of Rights (1689) Presidents have previously refused to enforce laws they regarded in good faith as unconstitutional. They have NOT refused to enforce laws for mere disagreement on policy grounds, let alone laws THEY ADVOCATED FOR that would now be politically inconvenient. I'd note that finding parties with standing could be a legitimate problem, BUT: standing relates to the "case-or-controversy" requirement the Constitution makes a bare minimum for the FEDERAL courts to exercise jurisdiction. What about the state courts? Some have much looser rules on standing...or even render pure advisory opinions under some circumstances. And the state courts have concurrent jurisdiction over questions of federal law except when specifically excluded by Congress.

Posted by: Dave J. at February 10, 2014 04:09 PM (L9r1C)

447 What would happen If I mailed in my taxes with a note that said..."Payment suspended along with the employer mandate. It's legal and OK, just ask Barky". Don't worry I'm looking for a good tax lawyer and scrounging up bail money now.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 10, 2014 04:10 PM (cCxiu)

448 To the next president: I love you long time! I need a little help on my taxes.

Posted by: pj at February 10, 2014 04:11 PM (ZWaLo)

449 >>but what evidence do you have that it would have worked any better than the one last October? Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 07:17 PM (g1DWB) << Apart from bad press, which is a given, and a slump in the polls 13 months before the election, what's the problem with maintaining the shutdown? The real damage was a majority of Republicans voting with Democrats and wishing they'd done it sooner, which is a disaster whenever it happens.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 10, 2014 04:22 PM (5xmd7)

450 "And it is true about the funding for Obamacare. Its right in the law. Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2014 06:59 PM (g1DWB) " Nope. A general ban on funds spent hiring, training, evaluating people to spend those guaranteed funds; and to buy them office space and furniture to spend those guaranteed funds; and to audit the expenditure of those guaranteed funds; and telephones and emails and postage and copying to facilitate the expenditure of those guaranteed funds, would leave those guaranteed funds unspent. Which is why the Democrats refused to allow "defunding" of Obamacare. We only hear about how "guaranteed" it was by lameass Republicans after they ran screaming like yellow dogs. To quote Paul Ryan: "We get it, Obamacare can't be defunded. It's like entitlements." No. It isn't. You got that before you gave up.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at February 10, 2014 04:27 PM (5xmd7)

451 "...It will be such sweet turnabout to use the Obama Precedent against Democratic programs in 2017..." Can I have a pipe load of what Gabe is smoking? The difference between Democrat programs and Republican programs is that Democrat program grow the Federal government and Republican programs grow the Federal government.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at February 10, 2014 04:38 PM (nrdJr)

452 Barry is breaking the Law !!! But we can't do anything, because of the Law !!! Oh ... Oh ... but here, in the Third Lower Court of BumFuck ... right here is the interesting case that's going to, once and for all, check-mate those Damn Dirty Dems ... and Once and For All return everything to The Way It Should Be. Oh ... Oh ... but if that doesn't work, we've got the Surefire GOP Strategy to Make It All Right. Yeah ... I get tired of hearing that shit too. Let me know when the talking is done.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 10, 2014 04:44 PM (6/+vz)

453 @ Hollowpoint 328 The courts don't have to make a policy judgement (as in implying approval). They need only concern themselves with legality. Given Heckler's holding, I don't think Obama's actions overcome the presumption of unreviewability that exists. Look, I'm not happy about Obama's diddling with Obamacare's deadlines and such, I just think these actions are legal and constitutional -- at least to date. I originally objected to the constant whining in conservative circles that altering deadlines is unconstitutional/illegal. The actions to date are neither. We need to stop screaming "illegal"! every time he does this as it makes us look ridiculous.

Posted by: Pigilito at February 10, 2014 04:45 PM (AW99N)

454 The problem with this is that, of course, no Republican will act this way, and the Democrats would not take it lying down (as it appears Republican leaders have decided to do). And, also of course, the media will rediscover that the president (if he's a Republican) cannot just administer the law as if he can create it anew, decide not to enforce it, "postpone" it, etc.

Posted by: D1st at February 10, 2014 04:54 PM (fIkHQ)

455 It will be such sweet turnabout to use the Obama Precedent against Democratic programs in 2017. It would be unwise to count the chickens before they're hatched. What needs to happen is for the current Republican "leadership" to grow a pair, or to be replaced with those already possess them, and for the elected Republican president to be willing to stick it nice and hard to the Democrats and all of their toadies, including the media, and to ignore their resulting wailings. Only then can turnabout be savored, but it would certainly be honey-sweet.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 10, 2014 04:56 PM (jVaLp)

456 "I originally objected to the constant whining in conservative circles that altering deadlines is unconstitutional/illegal. The actions to date are neither." The statute (you know, the one President said was esssential and defends as "the law of the land") says the deadline shall be X. The President decrees the deadline shall be X+one year...for now...subject to further change at a later time if HE, in his sole discretion, deems necessary. Where exactly does he get the authority to suspend/waive/alter black-letter legislation like that, pray tell? Is that not the exercise of LEGISLATIVE power, the sole prerogative of Congress? This is a man who proclaimed he could "deem" the Senate in recess for purpose if making recess appointments...even though it wasn't. This is a man who tore up GMAIL and Chrysler's contracts with their bondholders and centuries of bankruptcy law as a payout to the UAW. When I compare him to a Stuart king I do it consciously: he regards any check or limitation on his power as both a personal affront and an attack on the "proper" divine order of things.

Posted by: Dave J. at February 10, 2014 05:06 PM (L9r1C)

457 Ugh, GM not Gmail...autocorrect fail.

Posted by: Dave J. at February 10, 2014 05:07 PM (L9r1C)

458 @Dave J 446 That's your argument? The law is moving forward. He has merely delayed some provisions. If you believe that to be illegal or unconstitutional, you've an incomplete grasp of Administrative law. "Take care ... faithfully execute" does not mean the executive has no ability to delay enacting some provisions. If you feel it does, then by all means take it to court or donate to which ever group promises you that delaying a provision is tantamount to unconstitutionality (the claim remains a great fundraising tool). There are more up to date precedents than the Stuarts, by the way. See Heckler v. Chaney (1984).

Posted by: Pigilito at February 10, 2014 05:09 PM (AW99N)

459 President Obama can do whatever his wise leadership calls for, you RethugliKKKan fools. The Congress is powerless to stop him, and correctly-thinking persons control most of the courts. Good luck finding some racist redneck judge to stop Him.

And you think there will ever be a RethugliKKKan president ever again. How cute.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 10, 2014 05:20 PM (1pJbs)

460 This is not comparable to an agency declining to pursue enforcement in a particular instance as in Heckler, a classic example of prosecutorial discretion. This is not "administrative law" at all, because it is the executive branch saying what the law is regarding the legal obligations of PRIVATE parties TO EACH OTHER, regardless of what agencies might or might not do.

Posted by: Dave J. at February 10, 2014 05:23 PM (L9r1C)

461 Which is why I compared it to the GM and Chrysler bailouts: we already HAVE a bankruptcy process governed by actual laws, but that wouldn't have had the desired result, so fifths law.

Posted by: Dave J. at February 10, 2014 05:27 PM (L9r1C)

462 Gabe, Your Perry impression is lacking. He would say "adios mofo" not "sayonara sucker".

Posted by: Ken in NH at February 10, 2014 05:27 PM (OQY/W)

463 Arrgh: fuck the law.

Posted by: Dave J. at February 10, 2014 05:27 PM (L9r1C)

464 Additionally, neither saying no party has standing or that the courts would treat it as a non-justifiable political question actually goes to the merits of its legality. If a President can indefinitely "delay" the black-letter effective date of a statute, what are the limits to this power? Are there any? If so, where do they come from, since this power itself comes from nowhere, is antithetical to separation of powers, and indeed runs counter to a millennium or more of the common law. Even when we were still ruled by kings, "the King is above Man, but beneath God and the Law." (Bracton)

Posted by: Dave J. at February 10, 2014 05:41 PM (L9r1C)

465 The law is what those with the guns and the jails and the money say it is. Enjoy your re-education camps.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 10, 2014 05:48 PM (1pJbs)

466 I see that Baroque polluted Monticello with his stank today. pfft. Jefferson is rolling in his grave. I love Monticello and he has not ruined it for me until fumigation or a hard freeze (which is also known as Mooch's bedroom). Per Daily Mail, there is a new French rumor that Barry is getting it on with Beonce or however you spell her name. Hilarious, what is French for bath house in Chicago, Ace? Beonce my fat arse.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 10, 2014 05:54 PM (baL2B)

467  I see that Baroque polluted Monticello with his stank today. pfft.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 10, 2014 09:54 PM (baL2B)

 

 

I loved Monticello when we went there on a family vacation when I was 15 or so, the magnificent library/study especially. In most homes the kitchen is the heart of the house. Jefferson's study was the heart of his home, I think. At least, that's where I thought his presence was most strongly felt.

Posted by: Every Evil Rat Bastard Dictator On The Planet at February 10, 2014 06:11 PM (ptcFO)

468 Discarding very old sock, thanks.

Posted by: troyriser at February 10, 2014 06:12 PM (ptcFO)

469 "That's your argument? The law is moving forward. He has merely delayed some provisions. If you believe that to be illegal or unconstitutional, you've an incomplete grasp of Administrative law. " Nope. If a county sheriff says he will not investigate a burglar alarm from the same address five times a month, because of too many false alarms, he is NOT saying the law against burglary is changed, he is only saying what his department is going to do in reaction to it. As Dave J understands, the Treasury Department is declaring that the law is not what it used to be last week. The law did NOT say the Secretary would develop regulations on the subject. The statute gave the deadline. This is not whining. Nothing good can come of this. Plenty bad can come of it, such as waivers on civil rights protections for police departments, and sports venues, which would be immediately politically useful.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 11, 2014 04:58 AM (0I+V4)

470

@ No. 6

 

Behold the MANY examples for Racist, bigots hating the black man in the White House!

no evidence now!! voter fraud had NOthing to do with that one. Obama won by a large margin. Romeny lost because he sucks!!!

No, Obama is not illegal. His daddy isn't who they say it is, but he isn't illegal.

No, Obama will not be impeached.

No, Obama is not a traitor!

Yes, you are a pathetic racist, bigoted turd that hates having a black man as President! Actually, I think conservs. are kicking a dead horse...it's over & done! At this point, it looks like they're still "grasping" with issues like this and his birth certificate. They need to move on, stop accusing, criticizing and attacking.
I hope the GOP puts more thought and effort into producing a better presidential candidate...one more in tune with the times and the public, and who actually offers solutions.

Posted by: ZaMan at February 11, 2014 01:04 PM (wuXtb)

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