March 10, 2014
— Ace Well, it's all over. Spoiler alert: The Yellow King Theory was 100% right.
Mild Spoiler Stuff below. I didn't think this was major spoiler stuff because I don't get into details about the plot, and the plot was already largely revealed (or was it???).
But artisanelle ette notes that there is still some Spoilerage here, so I'm putting this all below the fold.
A few weeks ago, the left began claiming that this show, which they liked (as many not on the left liked it) would wind up affirming their most sacred cultural-religious dogmas. A writer for the Daily Beast insisted the show was primarily an Anti-Christian narrative which would finally show those rubes for the Flying Spaghetti Monster worshipping dunces they really are.
Another popular conceit was that the show would blow the lid off conservatives' school voucher agenda.
A couple of weeks back, a conservative asked me about the show, and if he ought to watch it. He'd heard this chatter about a relentless leftist/atheist narrative.
Here's what I told him:
1. The Reverend Tuttle is plainly involved. So, if that's your test of whether a show is "anti-religious," then it is. But that's not my test. All men stray.
2. There is some connection to Tuttle's religious schools.
3. But as for an anti-Christian or anti-religious narrative -- nope, I didn't see it, and furthermore, based on interviews with the writer (and he's given a lot of them) I don't get that sense of him at all.
I would have added this much more: It seems to me that the writer conceived of his show as art, and about the human condition, and the human condition is not one of simple verities (conservatives are bad, school vouchers are bad for the children!!111!!!, God is a Lie) but one of mystery and doubt.
Note the large difference between what works as a political agitation -- simple truths plainly stated, one side plainly in the right, one side plainly in the wrong, a resolution which works towards certainty in one's beliefs, and a flattering of those beliefs -- and what works as an artistic one -- muddled messages, no resolution of conflicts between different points of view, questioning one's beliefs and challenging them.
A story about humans is an awful lot different than one about political agendas.
And yet, for many on the left, they could not see the difference. True Detective was a good show, therefore it must serve to flatter their cherished cult beliefs. It must resolve, they thought, to ultimately say that everything they believe is right.
Leftists pretend to care a great deal about art, and they attack the right for reading extraneous superficial political narratives into artwork.
And yet, and yet.
A few weeks ago, in a comment, someone asked about Cohle's nihilistic, anti-natalist, hyper-materialist belief system, and whether the show would wind up championing that.
I told that commenter I didn't think so-- in fact, I imagined that Cohle would have some kind of epiphany that challenged that belief system.
Note that this does not mean that I think the writer Nick Pizzolato is religious. In fact, based on his interviews, I would say he's probably an atheist or agnostic.
But I was fairly confident Cohle would wind up having some kind of epiphany that challenged his atheist beliefs anyway.*
Why?
Because drama. It's a rule of drama that drama is about conflict and change.
If a man comes into a movie claiming he knows everything and that he is 100% certain of every detail of his philosophy, welllll, shiiiit. You are almost guaranteed that that man's absolute certainty will be absolutely challenged by the end of the movie.
This isn't exactly a New Rule. (I mention "New Rule" because the left likes Bill Maher a lot and might understand it better phrased in this manner.)
This basic idea is only about 5000 years old, is all.
So yeah, I thought from the beginning that Cohle's absolute surety about his nihilistic beliefs would be challenged by the end of the show-- at the end of the show.
And that is indeed what happened. Cohle had a some kind of Near Death Experience in which he had a vision of something that seemed fairly close to most people's vague impressions of heaven (though, of course, the show never said "near death experience" nor "heaven").
He was racked with powerful sobbing at the end because he had been yanked back to earth from this heaven-like vision of another world, in which his family (including his dead daughter) surrounded him and filled him with love.
Does Pizzolato believe in Heaven? Again, I doubt it. But Pizzolato, unlike many of his left-leaning fanbois, believes in drama, and mystery, and leaving interesting questions open rather than perfectly resolved and therefore closed.
It should also be said that Cohle's vision means almost nothing, evidence-wise: he was dying, he was bleeding out, and he has synthesia (a brain disorder by which physical sensations are misinterpreted so that, famously, one can "see" the color of music). He is an unreliable narrator as to the existence of heaven; the point is not to establish that heaven exists in the world, but that it may now exist in Cohle's version of the world.
The writer wasn't interested in proving or disproving heaven or God in his story, though he probably has ideas on this point in his personal life. He seems capable of separating "What I believe as a voting citizen" from "What I think makes for a good story."
Many of his leftist fans couldn't seem to make that distinction themselves.
The debate between the religious and irreligious has been going on since the first man ever gazed into the sky and thought the stars might be gods, and the second man said, "Nah, bro."
Did the left really seriously think that Pizzolato intended to settled this question Once and For All with a miniseries?
And how did they think this would be established/proved in the context of the show? I suppose it might have been Hart who had the belief-system-shaking revelation; but Hart's philosophy has always been very superficial. He claims to believe in God, but has never shown any interest in the matter, apart from mouthing the socially-approved position on God. He's never been seen in church (or even talking about going to church), or praying, or questioning, or seeking God at all.
To the extent he has a philosophy, it just seems to be one of convenient self-justification.
So subverting that wouldn't have been any big shakes. Hart probably would have shrugged it off after a day or two.
The show never spent much time on Hart's beliefs. It was always about Cohle's. Ergo it was pretty obvious that Cohle's philosophy, and not Hart's, would be put to doubt.
As for the rest of it: The Big Conspiracy was barely addressed at the conclusion of the show; one cop attempts to tell Harrelson more about it, and Hart says, basically, "Yeah I don't care about those details." Thus a lot of fan speculation (including mine) was categorized by the writer as "Not really what this is about."
Some may be disappointed by this; I wasn't, because I've been reading Pizzolato's many interviews, in which he says over and over "We're not trying to trick you" and speaks a lot of "my serial killer," singular. So soon after my "euthanasia cult" theory, I realized the writer intended a more conventional plot, and I was Trying Too Hard to be Clever.
The show ultimately was, as Pizzolato said, not about the serial killer at all, but about the two men, Hart and Cohle, and their long, rocky relationship with one another.
And it's about mystery. The serial killer plot is a pretext to explore mystery -- and evil -- and philosophy -- and sex -- and all the rest of it, but in the end, the show was about the mystery and muddle of life. Not about some Hannibal Lecter-like supercriminal and his lunatic beliefs.
In the end, he wasn't the interesting one; the heroes were the interesting ones.
Life is about mystery. Anyone who thinks he knows the answer to all of life's mysteries hasn't given nearly enough thought to life.
This is the essence of the human experience. And it's very, very different from the world as perceived by pure partisans and ideologues.
These two worlds are largely separate.
Ideology and certainty are useful in politics -- but they are the death of art.
Alas, our friends on the left, who fancy themselves to be quite sophisticated aesthetes, are pretty sure that political identity and cult loyalty is pretty much the sum and extent of the human experience.
* In fairness, my plot-related speculations were almost all wrong. Hart's daughter was not revealed to have been molested (but that hint remains there). Hart's daughter did not join the cult and was never in danger. The cult was not an euthansia cult (though the killer's iconography suggests he was releasing people from the "evolutionary mistake" of consciousness).
But in terms of character arc, I felt a bit more certain (though not 100%) that Cohle would have a serious belief-shaking epiphany. If you set a guy up as knowing everything there is to know in Episode One, he's got to not know everything by Episode Eight.
Chekov's gun, you know. If a gun is shown on the wall in Act One, it must be fired by Act Three. Otherwise, the gun should not be on the wall.
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Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 07:50 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 07:51 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, pushing the tube socks aside at March 10, 2014 07:52 AM (naUcP)
The SCOAMF is a gutless pussy.
I don't get HBO, so I've never seen True Detective. Maybe it will come out on Netflix or something.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 07:52 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 07:53 AM (ZPrif)
Interview about philosophy stuff:
http://tinyurl.com/ktd675c
Posted by: kartoffel at March 10, 2014 07:54 AM (sWwJZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 07:54 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 10, 2014 07:55 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Hannibal the Cannibal at March 10, 2014 07:55 AM (syKOm)
Posted by: backhoe at March 10, 2014 07:56 AM (ULH4o)
I didn't see how they were going to tie up everything in the final hour, it seemed too short. I thought the end was satisfying in what happened with Rust, and even with Marty. Rust's conversion happened only in the last 20 minutes of the last episode, but we've been watching Marty realize over the last half of the season that his early focus on the superficial was what led to his ruin. I think the scene with his family at the hospital when he can't keep up the façade of the alpha male really drove that home.
I would have liked a little more explanation of the cult's beliefs and how far back they stretched, what the stick things were about, why some bodies were public, etc. but overall I think it was good.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 10, 2014 07:56 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 10, 2014 07:56 AM (7ObY1)
This isn't exactly a New Rule. (I mention "New Rule" because the left likes Bill Maher a lot and might understand it better phrased in this manner.)
Ace, you often write as if you're trying to have an honest dialog with the Left. Do you get any traction?
William Saletan said this place is full of dittoheads. I don't do enough Twitter. Do you ever get thoughtfully engaged by leftists of stature?
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 10, 2014 07:57 AM (A0sHn)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 10, 2014 07:57 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Bigby's Waving Hands at March 10, 2014 07:57 AM (KgN8K)
Posted by: resist we much at March 10, 2014 07:58 AM (u0wJh)
Still could've used more Naked Beth, though.
Posted by: Waterhouse at March 10, 2014 07:58 AM (Nksua)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 07:58 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 10, 2014 08:00 AM (7ObY1)
Didn't see the show, don't care to. I hardly ever watch any TV any more.
But I want to say, Ace, that I really admired your post. You've got an excellent grasp of the principles of drama and you show off your learning in an accessible way. I wish I could write something half as good.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 10, 2014 08:00 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: fb at March 10, 2014 08:00 AM (JVEmw)
Posted by: Zombie Nietzsche at March 10, 2014 08:00 AM (KgN8K)
Posted by: small town girl in wyoming at March 10, 2014 08:01 AM (C8G4S)
Posted by: righter at March 10, 2014 08:01 AM (9fynr)
Posted by: Adam at March 10, 2014 08:01 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 08:02 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: Wild One at March 10, 2014 08:02 AM (UDPvg)
Posted by: righter at March 10, 2014 08:02 AM (9fynr)
I'm Sofa King tired.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 12:02 PM (GjYxB)
Fuckin' daylight savings time, man.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:02 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 08:03 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 08:03 AM (gBnkX)
Because drama. It's a rule of drama that drama is about conflict and change.
If a man comes into a movie claiming he knows everything and that he is 100% certain of every detail of his philosophy, welllll, shiiiit. You are almost guaranteed that that man's absolute certainty will be absolutely challenged by the end of the movie.
It's a fundamental rule of all character-based art (literature, film, theater, etc) that the protagonist is the character who undergoes a change. If a character isn't changed -- or at least challenged -- then there is no interest to the story and it dies on the vine. No one ever wrote an interesting story about affirming what's already known. That's the stuff of the dryer variety of history texts, not literature or drama.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:03 AM (4df7R)
Sort of like how when an NYTimes writer has two friends with the same new interest, it's a "trend" and we all must embrace it?
Posted by: HR at March 10, 2014 08:04 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 10, 2014 08:04 AM (m1gXb)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 08:04 AM (/FnUH)
Girls has 800k viewers. .25% of Americans watch. A full quarter of 1%.
Lena Dunham's crash-and-burn on SNL will become the stuff of legend. It's right up there with David Letterman's inane "Umaaaaa. Opraaaaaah." Oscar gig.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:04 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 10, 2014 12:04 PM (m1gXb)
She could keep her clothes on too. You know, for humanitarian purposes.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:05 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 10, 2014 08:05 AM (DmNpO)
Or, more likely, the first person who thought 'God hasn't done anything for me recently, He must not exist.'
Which would have been long after The Flood, I think.
Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2014 08:05 AM (hO9ad)
I will say I definitely picked up on what looked like some sort of over the top anti-christian, anti-school voucher message but it ended up just being part of the story and not some political agenda.
Whenever I watch movies and they show someone who's really religious, I can almost always tell eventually that person will turn into a villain. If Hollywood really wanted to throw people off, they'd make a religious character an actual good person.
Posted by: McAdams at March 10, 2014 08:05 AM (tBRiq)
Posted by: Adriane... at March 10, 2014 08:05 AM (qoKTg)
Posted by: oejay44cday at March 10, 2014 08:06 AM (mI2F6)
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 10, 2014 08:07 AM (KgN8K)
He was wrong.
Posted by: Windows of Cathedral Basilica of Our Lady of Chartres at March 10, 2014 08:07 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: resist we much at March 10, 2014 08:07 AM (u0wJh)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 08:07 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 08:07 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: Ragnor Lathbrok and Darryl Dixon at March 10, 2014 12:03 PM (nELVU)
Come on over here, Daryl. We can chat... in my BUNK.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:07 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: oejay44cday at March 10, 2014 08:07 AM (mI2F6)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 08:07 AM (/FnUH)
I could also go for more naked Lisa. Maybe we could get a show with more naked Beth and Lisa. Throw a little naked Maggie for fun.
I need a Camel Blue label.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 10, 2014 08:07 AM (t06LC)
...doin' the toaster....
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 12:07 PM (GjYxB)
Whew, that was a close one.
Posted by: The Sofa at March 10, 2014 08:07 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 08:08 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: The Truth Is Out There at March 10, 2014 08:08 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 10, 2014 08:08 AM (ZshNr)
And learn how to tell a truly funny story.
Col. Peacock in the kitchen with the candlestick ...
Oh my! - said Ms Takei upon finding the body
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 10, 2014 08:08 AM (m1gXb)
Posted by: Soona at March 10, 2014 08:09 AM (y92mV)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 10, 2014 08:10 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 08:10 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 08:10 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Soona at March 10, 2014 12:09 PM (y92mV)
Well, and boobehs. You forgot boobehs.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:10 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: jmel at March 10, 2014 08:10 AM (bIkwf)
Sounds like Call of Cthulhu. Almost definitely picking up now.
Posted by: kartoffel at March 10, 2014 08:11 AM (sWwJZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 08:12 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: jmel at March 10, 2014 12:10 PM (bIkwf)
Done.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:12 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: jmel at March 10, 2014 12:10 PM (bIkwf)
Prayers sent for your mother and for you.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:12 AM (DrWcr)
53 Col. Peacock in the kitchen with the candlestick ... ...doin' the toaster....
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 12:07 PM (GjYxB)
Whew, that was a close one.
Posted by: The Sofa at March 10, 2014 12:07 PM (DrWcr)
You're telling me.
Posted by: The Chicken at March 10, 2014 08:13 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: backhoe at March 10, 2014 08:13 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 08:13 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 10, 2014 08:13 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: jmel at March 10, 2014 12:10 PM (bIkwf)
Best wishes for your mom.
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2014 08:13 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at March 10, 2014 08:13 AM (kAvHW)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 10, 2014 08:14 AM (c5gSr)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at March 10, 2014 12:13 PM (kAvHW)
It's HBO.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:14 AM (DrWcr)
Damn Skippy!
Posted by: Bill DeBlasio at March 10, 2014 08:14 AM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 08:14 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: Adriane... at March 10, 2014 08:14 AM (qoKTg)
Please say a prayer for my mom. She is getting the results of her biopsy today. I am so, so scared.
Posted by: jmel at March 10, 2014 12:10 PM (bIkwf)
Done and done. Let us know if everything's OK.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: jwest at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (u2a4R)
"Geopolitically, it is utterly intolerable for Sevastopol to fall into the hands of NATO" - Assange or Kremlin spox?
John Schindler @20committee
Between nakedly towing Kremlin line & having RT show, what does Assange have to do for people to get it? Wear a cool GRU bat-symbol t-shirt?
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 10, 2014 12:13 PM (ZPrif)
Did Assange really say that?
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: HR at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (ZKzrr)
If you're not confused about life's mysteries you're doing it wrong.
Joe Biden. A man doing it right.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (r7mtu)
The only constants are death and taxes, and likewise...
Posted by: fred zeppelin at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (zL/eJ)
Seeeeexist!
Posted by: Adriane... at March 10, 2014 12:14 PM (qoKTg)
OK. All the wimminz are stupid too. Feel better?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: tsj017 at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (4YUWF)
And learn how to tell a truly funny story.[/i]
Lena Dunham, for whom "funny" includes "rape and incest jokes."
TWITCHY: http://tinyurl.com/npmll93
But it's okay because she's a girl. Girls can get away with shitty humor like that because they aren't fat, middle-aged guys in their underwear... or something. Totes legit.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (4df7R)
jmel?
Done. Nursed my first late wife thru 2 bouts with cancer. The scary part is the waiting. Once you know the results? You get down to dealing with it. God bless.
Posted by: backhoe at March 10, 2014 08:15 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Not everything is a conspiracy at March 10, 2014 08:16 AM (jl269)
===========
So, "Brokeback Detective?"
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 10, 2014 08:16 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Beagle at March 10, 2014 08:16 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 10, 2014 08:16 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 08:17 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 08:17 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Not everything is a conspiracy at March 10, 2014 08:17 AM (jl269)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 10, 2014 12:15 PM (4df7R)
-----
.....have you SEEN Lena in her underwear????
Not.Much.Difference.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 10, 2014 08:17 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 08:18 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 10, 2014 08:19 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 10, 2014 08:19 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 08:19 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: resist we much at March 10, 2014 08:19 AM (u0wJh)
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 10, 2014 08:19 AM (KgN8K)
Posted by: tsj017 at March 10, 2014 12:15 PM (4YUWF)
It's not about the show. It's about the fundamental differences between how we on the right view the world and how those on the left do. If we're ever going to take back the culture -- and nothing will work to save us until we do -- then it's exactly this kind of analysis and discussion that are needed.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:19 AM (4df7R)
Somewhere, on a Navy ship that has just pulled into a liberty port are a group of Engineers.
Junior Engineers, snipes if you will.
And this is their first liberty in 35 days.
And they just got paid.
And Lena Dunham wants to take ten of them bar hopping with her, her treat.
And they all say "No".
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 10, 2014 08:20 AM (si68n)
Or, more likely, the first person who thought 'God hasn't done anything for me recently, He must not exist.'
Which would have been long after The Flood, I think.
So true. And after the Exodus from Egypt too.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 10, 2014 08:20 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 10, 2014 08:21 AM (ewYO6)
And Lena Dunham wants to take ten of them bar hopping with her, her treat.
And they all say "No".
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 10, 2014 12:20 PM (si68n)
----
When do we get to the "fiction" part....?
Posted by: fixerupper at March 10, 2014 08:21 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Cletus Cloggenstain at March 10, 2014 08:21 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, pushing the tube socks aside at March 10, 2014 08:22 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2014 08:22 AM (XyM/Y)
Posted by: presently semi-incapacitated at March 10, 2014 08:22 AM (/cUUk)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 08:22 AM (4+AaH)
Ergo, Pizzolato is a closet conservative. Cohle's "conversion" at the end proves this, as well.
/channeling the lefty logic method, AKA, Make Shit Up As You Go, Call It Profound, Validate Your Chosen Answers.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 10, 2014 08:22 AM (TM1p8)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:22 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 08:23 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 08:23 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, found his rosary at March 10, 2014 08:23 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2014 08:23 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 08:23 AM (aDwsi)
That's not a dog.
Hey guys....looks like we may have found the Boss.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 10, 2014 08:24 AM (si68n)
Posted by: Shoey at March 10, 2014 08:24 AM (jdOk/)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 10, 2014 12:23 PM (VjL9S)
Only if you like floppy wieners.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:24 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 10, 2014 08:24 AM (r7mtu)
Savor. It.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 12:23 PM (VtjlW)
Hmm... Would this be better savored with a red whine or a white?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:24 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, found his rosary at March 10, 2014 08:25 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2014 08:25 AM (wgOKn)
Posted by: Adriane... at March 10, 2014 08:25 AM (qoKTg)
Hey, now! Let's not be so harsh on her. It's not that the popularity of her schtick is waning, it is that her appeal is becoming more selective!
Posted by: Cow Tipping at March 10, 2014 08:25 AM (BF+2f)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 10, 2014 08:25 AM (c5gSr)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 10, 2014 08:25 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2014 08:25 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, found his rosary at March 10, 2014 08:25 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 08:25 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 08:26 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 08:26 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 10, 2014 08:26 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 08:27 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:27 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, The King in Socks at March 10, 2014 08:27 AM (naUcP)
yup, none of us atheists or secularists are capable of asking any questions beyond ideology or politics
none. not a one.
we are all very stupid people. All of us. Down to a man.
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 12:10 PM (/FnUH)
Oh God, not another slap fight over this.... Can we all at least agree that trying to create a Heaven on Earth/Utopia is a notoriously bad idea?Posted by: tubal at March 10, 2014 08:27 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 08:27 AM (4+AaH)
@125
Eh, people have been padding their book reading lists for centuries. I couldn't get into Ulysses. There. I said it. At least there is a chance most people who brag about watching the show probably have because, boobies. Wonderful, beautiful, amazing boobies.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 10, 2014 08:27 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2014 08:28 AM (wgOKn)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 10, 2014 08:28 AM (7ObY1)
I would so watch that.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:28 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 10, 2014 08:28 AM (I8YZX)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2014 08:28 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Cletus Cloggenstain at March 10, 2014 12:21 PM (LKJt3)
I spent most of The Bridge certain that the mentor cop was going to turn out to be the villain, as his voice kind of sounded like the one on the phone.
As I discovered watching Silence of the Lambs last night, my brain was playing tricks on me because I remembered (but not entirely) he was the villain in that movie.
Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2014 08:28 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 08:29 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2014 08:29 AM (XyM/Y)
I don't know that cosmic horror translates all that well to TV. You can imagine non-Euclidean geometry, but you can't exactly build a set with it. To the extent that it was left a mystery it was probably done right.
Posted by: kartoffel at March 10, 2014 08:29 AM (sWwJZ)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 10, 2014 12:28 PM (7ObY1)
Then don't watch or read them. It's really not that hard.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:29 AM (4df7R)
To the haters who are complaining about his writing about this, seriously? Suck a dick.
Truth be told, I'm taking nearly 100% of my TV/movie recommendations from Ace of Spades at this point.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 10, 2014 08:29 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 10, 2014 08:29 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 08:29 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 10, 2014 08:29 AM (0cMkb)
This is egotistical and solipsistic. People are different. People are just going to have to accept, at some point, that people are different, and mere difference is not an assault on their persons, or beliefs.
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 12:29 PM (/FnUH)
PISTOLS AT DAWN, SIR!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:30 AM (4df7R)
As I discovered watching Silence of the Lambs last night, my brain was playing tricks on me because I remembered (but not entirely) he was the villain in that movie.
Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2014 12:28 PM (hO9ad)
It puts the lotion on the illegal alien, or else it gets the hose again!
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:30 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 08:30 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: resist we much at March 10, 2014 08:30 AM (u0wJh)
This, a thousand ti......
I think I'll take a nap.
Posted by: The people of Miranda at March 10, 2014 08:30 AM (si68n)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, The King in Socks at March 10, 2014 08:30 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2014 08:31 AM (659DL)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 08:31 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, The King in Socks at March 10, 2014 08:32 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, The King in Socks at March 10, 2014 12:30 PM (naUcP)
I'd rather torch them with a flame thrower, but that's just me.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:32 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: jwest at March 10, 2014 08:32 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, who slashed this sock? at March 10, 2014 08:33 AM (naUcP)
I'm still not sure why the Red Wedding got everyone so hyped up. It's not like it was a surprise. It was in the damn books, for heaven's sake. It sucked to read and I'm sure it sucked to watch, but still -- if you don't know George RR "I'm a fat leftard fuck" Martin is going to kill off shitloads of established characters willy-nilly, you don't know GRRM.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:33 AM (4df7R)
*scurries over to hold your coat*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 08:33 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 08:33 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 08:33 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 10, 2014 08:34 AM (LKJt3)
>>> When she learned of Bruce’s activism, she offered a kind of “how dare you?” retort by saying Planned Parenthood provides women “low-cost medical advice and care.” Period. No other obvious descriptors. (And no laughter from the audience.)
Lorne, put your show out of its misery. SNL alum Jimmy Fallon had a skit with Moochelle his opening week of his new show, her character went into this spiel about how healthy and great kale chips were. When will lib comedians learn their #1 job is to entertain, not shill out propaganda?!
Posted by: Cow Tipping at March 10, 2014 08:34 AM (BF+2f)
Honestly, if you didn't have the resolve to beat Prinny Baal, you're just not worthy of my notice.
Posted by: Methos level 9999 at March 10, 2014 08:34 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 10, 2014 08:34 AM (RZ8pf)
Have you ever digested any media that had an over-the-top, conservative political message? It's not like there's a give and take here.
I'm not one of these conservatives that won't see movies that have liberal messages or boycott liberal actors. I'm not looking for my politics to be affirmed when I see a movie or TV show, and if anything, my viewing habits usually are more "blue state" than "red state".
But I do tire of having the Left's politics shoved in my face when I'm just trying to be entertained. I even see this in the stuff my young children watch.
I feel like if conservatives just constantly ignore it, will it be even more over the top without any push back?
Posted by: McAdams at March 10, 2014 08:35 AM (tBRiq)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, reading is fundamental! at March 10, 2014 08:35 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 08:35 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 12:33 PM (4+AaH)
My sympathies. 
Comedy is VERY subjective. You're better off looking for a consensus on a quality drama or action piece than comedy. Especially considering comedy today seems to concern itself primarily with gross bodily functions and ugly people showing off their internal ugliness to match their ugly faces.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:35 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Adriane... at March 10, 2014 08:36 AM (qoKTg)
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 10, 2014 08:37 AM (KgN8K)
Posted by: Beagle at March 10, 2014 08:37 AM (sOtz/)
Now that you mention it, Popular Conceit would be a good alternative name for the Commiecrat Party.
Â…..hereby triggering a series of reported concert sightings in the '80s
Posted by: ontherocks at March 10, 2014 12:25 PM (c5gSr)
Nah, they never toured. Studio band only. Said they were too esoteric for the hix in the stix.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 10, 2014 08:37 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 10, 2014 08:37 AM (c5gSr)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, speling iz hardd at March 10, 2014 08:37 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 08:37 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 10, 2014 08:37 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 08:38 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 10, 2014 08:38 AM (9Bdcz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 08:38 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 10, 2014 08:38 AM (RZ8pf)
Huh. We saw Bridesmaids (again, largely on Ace's recommendation!) and we thought it was riotously funny. Maybe it's an age-group thing? (Not saying that insultingly -- Ace is in his "late 20s" after all, as was I back when that film came out.)
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 10, 2014 08:38 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 10, 2014 08:39 AM (0HooB)
yup, none of us atheists or secularists are capable of asking any questions beyond ideology or politics
none. not a one.
we are all very stupid people. All of us. Down to a man.
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 12:10 PM (/FnUH)
--------------------------------------------
Just got back from paying online bills.
You're right, Ace. I should have said many or most. I'm only writing about atheists and secularists I've personally met. They were all somewhat shallow people.
And as far as "heaven on earth", yes, I believe in that also.
Posted by: Soona at March 10, 2014 08:39 AM (y92mV)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 08:39 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 10, 2014 08:40 AM (XyM/Y)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 10, 2014 12:34 PM (RZ8pf)
We all have our guilty pleasures. 
Mine's "World's Dumbest..." on TruTV.
But you see it on every "reality" show about law enforcement. Nine times out of ten the crook is going to be an inarticulate maroon with no shirt (or wearing a too-tight tank top that shows off her tattoos if it's a woman).
These are not the cream of the crop. These are the dregs of humanity. For every genius sociopath there are thousands of low-functioning dimwits who make life a misery for everyone they meet.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:40 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 08:40 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: resist we much at March 10, 2014 08:40 AM (u0wJh)
Yes. HBO inexplicably renewed it for 2 or 3 years a few days after the second episode aired and was being utterly demolished by the entire Internet. There's apparently a sufficient audience of LIV lefties who just want the Sorkin Red Meat to keep it worth their while, although I don't know what that translates to in real ratings.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2014 08:40 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 08:40 AM (ZPrif)
And it's about mystery. The serial killer plot is a pretext to explore mystery -- and evil -- and philosophy -- and sex -- and all the rest of it
I'm profoundly disappointed that they didn't explore Alexandra Daddario's tits as deeply as they clearly deserved.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 10, 2014 08:40 AM (TIIx5)
...and Daddario's tits.
Posted by: EC at March 10, 2014 08:41 AM (GQ8sn)
Makes sense. Look at all the traditional status markers--houses, cars, children--that have been demonized by the tastemakers and/or priced out of reach.
College admission has been so watered down you don't get a status marker for going anymore, unless you got into one of a couple dozen Big Name Schools. Careers...if you're not a lawyer, a union member, or a "creative", you're ridiculed for working (and you're a tax farmer for the people who don't).
What's left? Leisure pursuits.
Posted by: HR at March 10, 2014 08:41 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Adriane... at March 10, 2014 08:41 AM (qoKTg)
Or both.
It didn’t take long for the series based on Robert W. Chambers’ “King in Yellow” to build up a huge, loyal following. So big, in fact, that HBO GO live stream servers crashed during the season finale Sunday night.
Posted by: Edwin Edward Willis at March 10, 2014 08:42 AM (e8kgV)
==========
I'm digging the whole "There can only be 500 immortals at a time" thing.
And the Asian guy is fucking with their plans by figuring out how to make humans into immortals.
Looking forward to the reason behind keeping the heads of the ones he kills.
Maybe they can be reattached like they did on Fringe?
(BTW, did any of you know that the image they showed at the end of each fade-out in Fringe was actually a symbol for a letter, and that they spelled out a message?)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 10, 2014 08:42 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 08:42 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2014 08:42 AM (wgOKn)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 08:42 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 10, 2014 08:42 AM (DmNpO)
I think I'll take a nap.
Posted by: The people of Miranda
Nom nom nom nom
Posted by: Reavers at March 10, 2014 08:42 AM (87y4e)
Such insufferable twats.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 10, 2014 08:43 AM (ewYO6)
Don't we call these people teenagers?
Posted by: Penfold at March 10, 2014 08:43 AM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 12:35 PM (aDwsi)
----------------------------------------
Perhaps a treatise on "Leave It To Beaver"?
Posted by: Soona at March 10, 2014 08:43 AM (y92mV)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 08:43 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 10, 2014 08:44 AM (r7mtu)
Posted by: Reavers at March 10, 2014 12:42 PM (87y4e)
So I guess this is a case of the Reavers eating their victims BEFORE raping them.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 10, 2014 12:44 PM (r7mtu)
...Okay, what the hell is "Treme?"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:45 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 10, 2014 12:43 PM (TIIx5)
Come on, there can be no jinx when bewbs are involved. Amiright????
Posted by: EC at March 10, 2014 08:45 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 08:45 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 10, 2014 08:45 AM (WdbF7)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 10, 2014 08:45 AM (zF6Iw)
I not-entirely-secretly adore Bait Car just because of the crazy-ass excuses people make up to try and get out of having been videotaped stealing a car (and often openly talking about it on the video).
Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2014 08:45 AM (B/VB5)
Don't we call these people teenagers?
Posted by: Penfold at March 10, 2014 12:43 PM (Fbt5B)
College professors.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:45 AM (DrWcr)
Saw the "After" by Chris Carter and it was . . . pretty good.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 10, 2014 08:46 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 10, 2014 12:45 PM (WdbF7)
One's got heart, the other's heart is a lump of coal. Which is which?
(Nah, I'm kidding. Like I said, I've never watched the show.)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:46 AM (4df7R)
And that would mean some are Errol.
Posted by: EC at March 10, 2014 08:46 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: KWdreaming at March 10, 2014 08:47 AM (8QW0x)
So I guess this is a case of the Reavers eating their victims BEFORE raping them.
If we're lucky.
Posted by: Zoe at March 10, 2014 08:47 AM (87y4e)
Posted by: Adriane... at March 10, 2014 08:47 AM (qoKTg)
What's left? Leisure pursuits.
Goes right there with my "stealth sumptuary laws" bit earlier.Posted by: Brother Cavil, speling iz hardd at March 10, 2014 08:47 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 10, 2014 12:45 PM (4df7R)
An HBO series set in post-Katrina New Orleans. I tried watching a couple of episodes back when I had HBO and thought it was boring.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 08:47 AM (DrWcr)
What kind of business was transacted at "the office" and why wouldn't Ward ever discuss it?
My guess is that Ward was a capo in the Mayfield syndicate and spent his days doing wet work. Eddie Haskell is lucky he made it out of his teens.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 10, 2014 08:47 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 10, 2014 12:45 PM (zF6Iw)
It warms the cockles of my black heart that you would think of me when perusing an anthology of cosmic horror.
*dabs eyes with lace handkerchief*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:47 AM (4df7R)
out of ten the crook is going to be an inarticulate maroon
In many ways, this is the story of Obama.
Posted by: HR at March 10, 2014 08:48 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 10, 2014 08:48 AM (c5gSr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 10, 2014 08:48 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, found THOSE mags at March 10, 2014 08:48 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 08:49 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 08:49 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 12:47 PM (DrWcr)
Wow. That sounds painfully dull.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:49 AM (4df7R)
This would be a fun game. Ace is a "Cohle." DrewM is a "Hart."
CAC is an "Errol," obviously.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 10, 2014 08:49 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 08:50 AM (/FnUH)
It IS painfully dull. And it shouldn't be, it's made by the creator of The Wire, which was the opposite of "painfully dull."
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 10, 2014 08:50 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 08:50 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 10, 2014 08:50 AM (ZshNr)
I think it's actually slightly different: all the traditional status markers have been in the reach of the middle class for so long that our would-be feudal overlords in the New Class have to make shit up to signify them as elite. They probably think it's achingly clever to do it through a medium most of them spent 40 years decrying as declasse.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2014 08:50 AM (B/VB5)
I will watch it.
Pretty sure it's on the NatGeo channel tonight if you want to catch it.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 10, 2014 08:51 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 08:51 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2014 08:52 AM (wgOKn)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at March 10, 2014 08:52 AM (/EkKm)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 08:52 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 10, 2014 08:52 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 10, 2014 08:52 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: Beagle at March 10, 2014 08:52 AM (sOtz/)
And the Asian guy is fucking with their plans by figuring out how to make humans into immortals.
Looking forward to the reason behind keeping the heads of the ones he kills.
If you behead an immortal, you can store it for later use? Interesting.
I'm not sure that's anything more than an agreed limit, and even so, it seems he's got some room to work with as it's implied that there are quite a few heads in jars outside the base.
Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2014 08:52 AM (hO9ad)
Don't hold The Wire's fans against the show itself. It was pure unfiltered genius for the first four seasons, with the fifth being a noticeable narrative step down (but still okay). Those first four seasons, though? Godly.
Maybe it's the semi-Baltimoron in me that's partisan, I dunno.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 10, 2014 08:53 AM (ewYO6)
What kind of business was transacted at "the office" and why wouldn't Ward ever discuss it?
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The house was always spic and span. Yet June always claimed she was cleaning the house when everyone was away. I smell lies and sexual scandel.
Posted by: Soona at March 10, 2014 08:53 AM (y92mV)
Posted by: gm at March 10, 2014 08:53 AM (K0tm3)
Hmm. Nice rack...
Posted by: The Jersey Devil at March 10, 2014 08:53 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 08:53 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 10, 2014 08:53 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 08:54 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The Yellow Pug at March 10, 2014 12:44 PM (r7mtu)
It was Deadline! Very schadenfreudey article on the dismal ratings of Dunham's SNL.
>>> ...Okay, what the hell is "Treme?"
MRW, from what I can tell it is about the rebuilding of New Orleans post Katrina. I haven't seen a second of it but I assume slams at Booosh will be present or implied; never mind "Chocolate City" Nagin was an incompetent crook.
Posted by: LizLem at March 10, 2014 08:54 AM (BF+2f)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 10, 2014 08:54 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 12:51 PM (VtjlW)
Which is why the legend of the Jersey Devil is so persistent. *nod* The Barrens used to freak my dad out when he was a kid in NJ.
The one episode I ever saw of "The Sopranos" was the one where the two mob guys took the russian guy out to the Pine Barrens to execute him. Not only were the trees, like, a mile apart, but THERE WASN'T A SINGLE DAMN PINE AMONG THEM.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:55 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 08:55 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 10, 2014 12:52 PM (LKJt3)
See also: "Happening, The."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 08:56 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 10, 2014 08:56 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 08:56 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 10, 2014 08:56 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 08:57 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2014 08:57 AM (659DL)
Also it helps that aside from the Dark Knight, the DC movies are shit on wheels. I saw Man of Steel this weekend and it was just completely awful on pretty much every possible axis, starting with being at least 45 minutes too long.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2014 08:57 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 08:58 AM (ZPrif)
What kind of business was transacted at "the office" and why wouldn't Ward ever discuss it?
Ward was an early porn king.
He wore suits to look respectable.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 12:52 PM (GjYxB)
Probably shared an office with Ozzie Nelson. Oz always had an eye for the fine bitchez.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 10, 2014 08:58 AM (zF6Iw)
Ward Cleaver was the best button man east of the Mississippi. Every job he did ended up being reported as "accidents" or "unexplainable deaths".
That's how good he was!
Posted by: EC at March 10, 2014 08:58 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 08:58 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 10, 2014 08:59 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 10, 2014 08:59 AM (m1gXb)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 10, 2014 09:00 AM (SY2Kh)
big hit is that they aren't shoving liberal politics up the audience's
ass without lube. It's surprising how much money you can make by not
doing that.
It also helps that their characters seem to encompass the political and moral spectrum. One of my favorite aspects of "The Avengers" was the animosity between libertine Tony Stark and the more conservative Steve Rogers. It was nice that they're both HEROES who just happen to disagree on things. How fucking refreshing!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 09:00 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 09:00 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2014 09:00 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 10, 2014 09:00 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 10, 2014 12:53 PM (SY2Kh)
Oh God, I'm agreeing with Hollowpoint on something? Is it the end times?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 09:01 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone But Likes Non-Political Posts at March 10, 2014 09:01 AM (9ysE1)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 10, 2014 09:01 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 10, 2014 09:01 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 12:57 PM (GjYxB)
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Who's yer daddy?!
Posted by: Soona at March 10, 2014 09:01 AM (y92mV)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone But Likes Non-Political Posts at March 10, 2014 09:02 AM (9ysE1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 10, 2014 09:02 AM (DmNpO)
I think ace should do an entire day of non-political posts, just to annoy the Humorless Scold contingent.
I saw Humorless Scolds open for Rage Against the Machine at Lollapalooza.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 09:02 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 09:02 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 10, 2014 12:52 PM (LKJt3)
The Hannibal TV series is based off Red Dragon, but a modern take, and is wonderful though mind trippy. Might be a good palate cleanser.
Posted by: LizLem at March 10, 2014 09:03 AM (BF+2f)
That would be refreshing like trying to escape life's problems without booze and drugs.
Woah, woah, woah - let's not get crazy here!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 10, 2014 09:03 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (VtjlW)
The fact that the Left has spent the last 5 years using Neil deGrasse Tyson's name as a magic sigil meaning "I Love Teh Science!" (except for icky oil and icky genetically-modified food and icky vaccines) kind of guaranteed it would head that way.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Soona at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (y92mV)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (SY2Kh)
Perhaps I can help.
http://tinyurl.com/m4jmmut
Please.....no need to thank me..
Posted by: LiReaver at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (si68n)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 12:39 PM (4+AaH)
It seems to be picking up. It was moving a little slow there for awhile. I'm a tad annoyed that they didn't exploit Jeri Ryan's rack before offing her. They had the perfect opportunity for some serious tank top titties and pissed it away.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (gBnkX)
I forget which of the crappy paranormal shows on syfy I was watching, but there was one done in the pine barrens where they got a thermal image of something that looked like a deer until it opened its wings. The folks on the show tried to explain it away as antlers, except that the thermal vision while blotchy, was clear enough where the head and body of the thing were and they were not connected at the head.
Now, the thermal vision may have been bullshitted up on a computer. But what really struck me from that episode was all of the background noise during the course of their filming. Probably all natural, but it didn't sound like anything I'd ever heard.
Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2014 09:04 AM (hO9ad)
What if you mute it and just look at Henry Cavill?
Posted by: HR at March 10, 2014 09:05 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Mozam at March 10, 2014 09:05 AM (A5oSi)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 09:05 AM (ZPrif)
Didn't watch because no HBO--that was for context.
Ace, you have such a tremendous talent for cutting through outward appearances. Even when one may disagree with your reasoning, it's presented in a thought provoking manner.
It wasn't necessary to HAVE watched the show--you broke it down and contrasted philosophies beautifully.
Thank you, sir.
Now back to the sabbatical I am taking.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 10, 2014 09:05 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 10, 2014 09:06 AM (8Fa5Z)
I think we can positively identify three of them: Reggie Ledoux, Errol Childress, and Reverend Tuttle. That leaves two more unknowns.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 10, 2014 09:06 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: tangonine at March 10, 2014 09:06 AM (x3YFz)
I could live with the fact that I found the premise strangely boring, but the "Big Oil" angle was just an eye-roller.
Look at who made it. The Wachowski
Posted by: EC at March 10, 2014 09:06 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 10, 2014 09:06 AM (KgN8K)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 10, 2014 09:06 AM (ZshNr)
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2011/12/war-horse.html
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 10, 2014 09:07 AM (m1gXb)
http://bit.ly/N1k0PV
Like a screen door in a hurricane.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 01:04 PM (VtjlW)
Ummm... I couldn't help over looking your sekret and yummmm. Manly yummm.
It's so sad that when I see a commercial for insurance and they show a guy who wouldn't win in a slap fight pushing his wife in a wheelchair and she's holding their new twin daughters... I think.. Is he really man enough to protect those three lovely ladies? Where have all the cowboys gone?
Posted by: sweet...ish at March 10, 2014 09:07 AM (bj+Nc)
When I read about Nyarlathotep, AtC, I immediately think of you.
Speaking of delicate flower of innocent virtureness, sekrit to MWR.
http://bit.ly/N1k0PV
Like a screen door in a hurricane.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 01:04 PM (VtjlW)
Like a telephone pole in the path of Caroline Kennedy's Benz.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 09:08 AM (4df7R)
Why it's there and what's on the other side?
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 10, 2014 09:08 AM (VjL9S)
Thankfully, the Portlandia Left seems to have finally stopped trying to brag about being big fans of The Wire.
That's been the official Most Important Show Ever for the NPR set for a decade now.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 12:50 PM (ZPrif)
Which is really ironic, because The Wire, while made by unrepentant douchebag leftists, is easily one of the most searing indictments of Democrat control of the cities.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 10, 2014 09:08 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 09:09 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 10, 2014 09:09 AM (c5gSr)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 10, 2014 09:09 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 10, 2014 09:09 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 10, 2014 09:09 AM (GjYxB)
Posted by: sweet...ish at March 10, 2014 01:07 PM (bj+Nc)
Boys have the masculinity beaten, shamed, and drugged out of them starting in kindergarden.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 09:09 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: HR at March 10, 2014 01:05 PM (ZKzrr)p[/i]
I find that much of modern entertainment media is improved by hitting the mute button and just looking at the pretty.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 09:09 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 09:09 AM (aDwsi)
People are still debating and finding their own answer to what the Star Child at the end of 2001 means. One person in Canada in 1969 was reported to have run out of the cinema screaming, "its God!!!!"
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 10, 2014 09:09 AM (m1gXb)
Posted by: blaster at March 10, 2014 09:10 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: tangonine at March 10, 2014 09:10 AM (x3YFz)
Ace and fellow morans:
Is this show really that good?? Worth watching??
For as much print as Ace has given to it he could have written a season! haha.
Posted by: prescient11 at March 10, 2014 09:10 AM (tVTLU)
I really enjoyed the series, but felt the final act were inferior to the first two. No matter how much you want to say "it's about the characters," I wanted to see more resolution to the mystery of who all was involved in the cult, even if those people don't face any consequences, and more resolution to why some of the murders were made public while others were kept quiet. Also, the clue of the green paint was a bit too much of a reach. I would have been happier if the connection were a pair of john deer earmuffs. Finally, I felt the imagery used to project Audrey's emotional problems was too on-the-nose similar to the cult crimes for it to be merely an analogy and not some kind of clue that had a more direct connection later on. In the end I felt all those Audrey connections that never paid off in an actual connection was one of those cheap tricks the writer said he wasn't going to put in the show, just a different type of one than a twist ending.
Posted by: not the mama at March 10, 2014 09:10 AM (5dxeo)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 10, 2014 09:10 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, found THOSE mags at March 10, 2014 09:10 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2014 09:10 AM (wgOKn)
They are absolutely all losers, but some of them are pretty cunning.
HH Holmes built a murder-factory house with all sorts of killing devices inside like gas lines into bedrooms.
The Long Island Serial Killer seems to be well versed in police procedure and is effectively hiding himself.
Edmund Kemper is supposed to have been pretty bright, and of course Ted Bundy is probably the one most screenwriters model their killers after.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 10, 2014 09:11 AM (P7Wsr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 10, 2014 01:07 PM (m1gXb)
YES. I'd love to see someone else's take on it and get to talk about it.
Posted by: LizLem at March 10, 2014 09:11 AM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 09:11 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 10, 2014 09:11 AM (KgN8K)
I will never think of the plush Nyarlathotep on my computer desk the same way again...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, found THOSE mags at March 10, 2014 01:10 PM (naUcP)
You have a plush Nyarlathotep? I'm jealous.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 09:11 AM (DrWcr)
When I read about Nyarlathotep, AtC, I immediately think of you.
Speaking of the crawling chaos:
http://tinyurl.com/k8x3pnd
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 10, 2014 09:12 AM (zF6Iw)
Commercial announcers: loud, deep-toned, no dead air, cheerful and confident.
NPR: mumbly, reedy, full of odd pauses, tentative and vaguely disapproving-sounding.
Tribal signifiers, again.
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2014 01:10 PM (wgOKn)
Same reason why you don't go to NPR to listen to them talk about sports.
Posted by: EC at March 10, 2014 09:12 AM (GQ8sn)
Boys have the masculinity beaten, shamed, and drugged out of them starting in kindergarden.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 10, 2014 01:09 PM (DrWcr)
Another reason I'm a loud and proud misogynist. Because fuck the vaginalogues, seriously.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 09:12 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 09:12 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 10, 2014 09:12 AM (DmNpO)
I could live with the fact that I found the premise strangely boring, but the "Big Oil" angle was just an eye-roller.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 01:04 PM (gBnkX)Eh, Witch, for the Lefties it's "all politics, all the time...." ("politics" translating as forcing the recalcitrant to do what they want).
Posted by: tubal at March 10, 2014 09:13 AM (YEQ2h)
My pappy once brought down a leprechaun with just a Pop Tart chewed into the shape of a Glock 17.
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 10, 2014 09:13 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 09:13 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 10, 2014 09:13 AM (c5gSr)
Posted by: resist we much at March 10, 2014 09:13 AM (u0wJh)
What a sad life you must lead.
Posted by: Jeff B. at March 10, 2014 09:14 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 10, 2014 09:14 AM (wgOKn)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 10, 2014 09:14 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, found THOSE mags at March 10, 2014 09:14 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 10, 2014 09:14 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 10, 2014 09:14 AM (R5UOB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 09:14 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Bigby's Hangnail at March 10, 2014 09:14 AM (KgN8K)
This can work as long as every policeman at every moment of the day only puts to death those persons who need killing, and no other person subject to United States law at any level has any objection to raise, at any time.
So we end "True Detective" with Hart having executed a man. Please don't misunderstand my point, some people just need killin'. But I notice a curious silence from the Left about someone acting under color of authority blowing a handcuffed man's brains all over the lawn because fuck that guy, he's so guilty I don't even have to trudge my way through anything having to do with the law, institutions, procedure, my oath involving fidelity to same. Ace's point about the Left finding validation or simply manufacturing it via the culture is prominent at this point, it seems to me.
What percentage of the Federal or State or local bureaucracies are beholden to Obama or any other Leftist for their rice bowl, I wonder.
Posted by: Mike James at March 10, 2014 09:15 AM (2x0sM)
That's just sad.
Believe it or not, it is possible on occasion to enjoy the company of someone with different political views than your own.
Why, I've managed to go several minutes in a row without discussing politics. You should try it sometime.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 10, 2014 01:09 PM (SY2Kh)
That's true, I do have friends on the left. We managed to talk about something other than politics for a whole several minutes. Unfortunately we were talking about how she hates having to work a 40 hour work week.
Posted by: sweet...ish at March 10, 2014 09:15 AM (bj+Nc)
I heard Obama introduced it; can the man not keep his hands out of everything?! He has the same luck as the guy who christened the Titanic.
Posted by: LizLem at March 10, 2014 09:15 AM (BF+2f)
http://tinyurl.com/k8x3pnd
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 10, 2014 01:12 PM (zF6Iw)
OMG I want the Miskatonic Hoodie!!!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 09:16 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 10, 2014 09:16 AM (gBnkX)
Posted by: tangonine at March 10, 2014 09:16 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: sweet...ish at March 10, 2014 01:15 PM (bj+Nc)
Don't worry, sweetie. We'll take care of your friend's job-lock for her.
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 10, 2014 09:16 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 10, 2014 09:17 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 09:17 AM (aDwsi)
Yeah. I thought for sure we were gonna get a cliche cliffhanger like "the review board decides Dorian should be replaced with an MX" and was pleased when we didn't. The fact that the last scene was pretty much a straight up Blade Runner homage didn't hurt.
I do wish Fox would have run the episodes in the intended order; I gather some of the narrative weirdness goes away then. And being it's Fox I don't have high hopes for it coming back.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 10, 2014 09:17 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: tangonine at March 10, 2014 09:17 AM (x3YFz)
When Dr. Sagan did that, he moved from being a scientist to a full on lobbyist. And the value of his words to me plummeted to worthless.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 10, 2014 09:18 AM (m1gXb)
I love my Amazon Prime subscription. Tons of great free streaming entertainment, and the shipping benefits are awesome.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 09:18 AM (4df7R)
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Agreed.
But. But, it's the Arctic--Tank Top Times are few and far between.
She could have made sexy, sexy time with ex-hubby but he was more in the "chop your head off and put it in a jar and freeze it outside" mood.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 10, 2014 09:18 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Mike James at March 10, 2014 09:19 AM (2x0sM)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 10, 2014 01:13 PM (VtjlW)
Maybe the FOX people pulled him aside and told him, "DON'T SCREW THIS UP. We aren't ABC. We won't let you dither along for six seasons like you did with 'Lost.' We will 'Firefly' your ass so fast you'll think you got kicked in the head by River Tam. Got it?"
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 10, 2014 09:19 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 10, 2014 09:20 AM (659DL)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 10, 2014 09:20 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: resist we much at March 10, 2014 09:20 AM (u0wJh)
announcement yet on renewal so if it ends there, yeah, there are things
we don't know but at the same time there's no one big mystery out there
that's not explained.
From Deadline, sounds like they are going to go the American Horror Story route:
While the first season of True Detective was conceived as a closed-ended arc with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson, creator Nic Pizzolatto is already working on a premise for a second season with new characters and a new storyline in a new locale.
Posted by: LizLem at March 10, 2014 09:20 AM (BF+2f)
Posted by: tangonine at March 10, 2014 09:20 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 10, 2014 09:20 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: NSA at March 10, 2014 09:21 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 10, 2014 09:21 AM (m1gXb)
Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2014 01:04 PM (hO9ad)
Not sure what this noise was you were hearing, and I didn't see that show to have any clue. On the other hand I DO live technically at the northern reaches of the pine barrens, and in summer the woods are insanely loud at night, almost a continual underlying buzzing static type sound with weird insect type sounds layered on top. No clue what insects or whatever the fuck is doing it, but its all around and its loud. I can only imagine how that would sound on a recording.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 10, 2014 09:21 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 10, 2014 01:16 PM (4df7R)
Their stuff is good quality; I have Miskatonic and Nyarlathotep T-shirts and an Esoteric Order of Dagon sticker on my helmet.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 10, 2014 09:21 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: tangonine at March 10, 2014 09:21 AM (x3YFz)
What percentage of the Federal or State or local bureaucracies are beholden to Obama or any other Leftist for their rice bowl, I wonder.
Posted by: Mike James at March 10, 2014 01:15 PM (2x0sM)
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If that was the premise of the ending, then that is disturbing......but not unusual. Wasn't the "Star Chamber" based on that?
Posted by: Soona at March 10, 2014 09:21 AM (y92mV)
You can probably be friends with someone who steals from you as long as it's not so much that you miss it, and you can probably get along with inhuman fiends who butcher babies for fun or celebrate sodomy so long as they don't insist you participate.
It's all about compartmentalization.
Posted by: Methos at March 10, 2014 09:22 AM (hO9ad)
Cecile Strong plays a hot but vapid Columbian (or Cuban, or something) woman who takes her boyfriend with her to a jewelery party with a group of her female co-workers (or friends, or something).
So it's like one guy and five or six women. And the guy reveals that he is a "men's activist," which ends up offending Lena Dunham because FEMINISM!!1!
The rest of the sketch involves the other women making Cecile Strong realize that her boyfriend is a loser because he doesn't share their Feminist cultural shibboleths (none of which are used as fodder for comedy), and then she dumps him. The end.
So, basically, you've got what is supposed to be a comedy sketch, and the only possible laughs come from Cecile Strong's thick South American accent. Otherwise, it's just a bit strawman attack on a man, with Lena Dunham slipping in a lecture about Planned Parenthood (which she describes as a place where women go to get low cost healthcare).
It was a complete and utter dud, and I think it's because they were more interested in reinforcing their political positions than in attempting comedy, which in this case would have required them to be somewhat vulnerable about those political positions.
That said, Cecile Strong may be a complete leftard, but she is a smoking hot leftard.
Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at March 10, 2014 09:23 AM (uaEZS)
Posted by: resist we much at March 10, 2014 09:23 AM (u0wJh)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 10, 2014 09:24 AM (DmNpO)
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I like "stuff not explained because everyone knows it" parts of shows.
I've been dumped into this world as an invisible observer--let me figure it out if it's important.
Know what I think doomed Fringe? They trapped themselves by telling too much of the over-all plot too soon.
Specifically, the metal-blood guys--too powerful of a baddie, too soon.
Wondering if Sleepy Hollow didn't do that as well. Thinking . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 10, 2014 09:24 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 10, 2014 09:24 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 10, 2014 09:25 AM (c5gSr)
Posted by: obligatory at March 10, 2014 09:25 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at March 10, 2014 09:25 AM (uaEZS)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 10, 2014 09:26 AM (m1gXb)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 10, 2014 09:26 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: tangonine at March 10, 2014 09:26 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at March 10, 2014 09:26 AM (6fg3O)
Posted by: concrete girl at March 10, 2014 09:27 AM (gCUIj)
Visit Hot Air, visit here, visit anywhere on the Right and Every. Single. Thread. about television and movies features the Exact. Same. Comments.
"I've never heard of this show."
"I don't watch television, it's all Leftist crap."
"I refuse to see a movie with actor X in it, he's a Democrat."
etc., etc.
Time and again, we all hear on the Right how we lost popular culture, how we need to "take it back," how we need to re-engage.
And yet, and yet, many of my dear friends reflexively slag anything to do with popular culture, as if all elements were equally worthless of engagement.
Tell me, how is professing ignorance of popular culture able to convince those who follow it to abandon it in favor of your ignorance? How attractive is it to tell others that what they enjoy is without merit, and thus you should follow what *we* enjoy?
For example, I love football, but I dislike soccer. Is the way to get me to watch more soccer to tell me I'm stupid for watching football? Or is it to convince me that I'm missing something worth watching with soccer?
I don't watch much television. But I'm *aware* of television, because I know that people I need to talk to outside of my sphere are aware of television, and I want to be engaged in the conversation. And when I do watch TV, I acknowledge that I pursue good drama and funny comedy with no regard to what the proper conservative politics of the entertainment is. If I judged my TV-- or movies, or books-- by the voting records of those who act and produce them, I would watch nothing at all, and my life would be poorer for it.
We think the Left is stupid for dismissing the cultural aspects of the Right. Well, guess what? They are. And so are we when we return the favor.
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at March 10, 2014 09:27 AM (issUS)
Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at March 10, 2014 09:28 AM (issUS)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 10, 2014 09:30 AM (c5gSr)
>>It should also be said that Cohle's vision means almost nothing, evidence-wise: he was dying, he was bleeding out, and he has synthesia (a brain disorder by which physical sensations are misinterpreted so that, famously, one can "see" the color of music)
He had one vision before he was stabbed, of a black hole or something, and it was left unclear whether that is when he felt his lost loved ones or if that was later. Right?
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 10, 2014 09:34 AM (P1WNR)
Just because every member of that 1% is on the internet babbling endlessly about it doesn't make it any bigger.
"The world is bigger than You, you know."
The irony, it burns.
Posted by: tsj017 at March 10, 2014 09:34 AM (4YUWF)
Posted by: thunderb at March 10, 2014 09:35 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 10, 2014 09:35 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: tangonine at March 10, 2014 09:42 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: tangonine at March 10, 2014 09:43 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 10, 2014 09:45 AM (G4JfJ)
*crack*
*cheep cheep cheep*
Archaeopteryx mama: What the FUCK?
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 10, 2014 09:45 AM (XO6WW)
Posted by: Lester at March 10, 2014 09:46 AM (2UPXV)
Posted by: tangonine at March 10, 2014 09:47 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Jotus at March 10, 2014 09:49 AM (zTqLi)
It is impossible to catch up once you get far enough behind. I don't want to waste my time watching X seasons of the Walking Dead just so I can understand an episode that I happened to click on one day.
This type of shit inherently limits the audience.
No one can tell a story in a hour anymore. There are precious few TV dramas that are episodic and not serials. And most of those are cop shows.
This is more accessible by an audience that comes late to the party.
I don't have a beef with serials, but I won't waste my time just so I can converse about it on the same level with someone who spends all of their time on Netflix staying caught up with all of the serials.
Posted by: grognard at March 10, 2014 09:56 AM (/29Nl)
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Posted by: Tantor at March 10, 2014 10:01 AM (659DL)
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Posted by: Chairman LMAO at March 10, 2014 10:56 AM (9eDbm)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 11:13 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 11:14 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 11:16 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: RELYGRFO at March 10, 2014 11:19 AM (R4ROt)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2014 11:34 AM (/FnUH)
1. I've said this before, but as it's likely our last TD thread, as a Gulf Coast boy, I appreciate the way the nature and the human interaction with it in the series was filmed. There is a natural beauty that was, for want of a better word, lovingly depicted on screen. Including the sandwich shops, the bridges, the boats, etc.
2. Matthew M's Oscar speech, which essentially shocked the audience by his thanking God profusely, was made when he knew how the series would end but we didn't.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 10, 2014 11:47 AM (HubSo)
No "Say, Hart -- I think I might have glimpsed a vortex into Hell, and that really makes me rethink...oooo, you brought me a box of Camels!"
No mention at all.
I guess maybe we're supposed to assume that either a) this was another of Cohle's drug-damaged-brain visions or b) it was real, and Cohle assumed it to be a hallucination.
Personally, I'd have liked the ending more had The Goat of the Black Woods with a Thousand Young had stuck his head out of that blue vortex and bleated "Mehehehehh."
Posted by: Pastafarian at March 10, 2014 11:59 AM (xs9vO)
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Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at March 10, 2014 12:12 PM (1hM1d)
I'm glad it didn't end up being a 'dark and depressing ending' like some people predicted.
As I recall, in one of his early commentaries...
The writer/creator, Nic Pizzolatto, said that he used the 'detective genre' to investigate the human search for meaning in their lives.
And that's what he did.
It was an investigation, within an investigation, about an investigation.
A Spiral.
Those old ruins where the final battle with the Beast were interesting.
They looked pre-civil war...maybe even pre-revolution days, built by the French when it was French territory.
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Posted by: Tlindsay at March 10, 2014 06:39 PM (ec40q)
It seemed to me that the whole concept behind that character was that he'd been so beaten up by previous events in his life that he'd developed a rationalization for withdrawal from life to the greatest extent possible.
Posted by: Grimmy at March 10, 2014 06:44 PM (uUsh9)
I lost many in my family years ago, and I understood Cohle's invocation of the first episodes.
I am grateful that the writers have caused me to reflect.
Thanks for the analysis. It helped me.
Posted by: Denver at March 10, 2014 08:04 PM (gUtLR)
472 Fort Macomb, pre-civil war fort.
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Thanks, plithy!
With a name to go on...I did a little further reading on it.
It started out as Fort Chef Menteur, then in 1815 was added to, rebuilt and renamed Fort Macomb, after a hero in the War of 1812.
It's a cool old site.
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