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April 08, 2014

Mike Judge Endorses Instapundit's "Higher Education Bubble" Theory
— Ace

HBO is apparently so high on Mike Judge's new comedy, Silicon Valley, that they're letting you watch the first episode for free on YouTube.

Instapundit must not have actually watched it, or else he would have noted the fierce attack on modern-day college occurring near the beginning of the show.

The character who delivers this diatribe at a TED talk is called "Peter Gregory," who is obviously based on tech titan Peter Thiel. Thiel, famously, is a strident critic of what college has become, and actually offers people $100,000 if they will quit college to pursue their tangible, possibly-useful dream. (I assume Thiel has to first approve of your dream before you get the money. So, you know, don't just quit college and then show up at his door with your hand out.)

In the show, the Thiel-analogue is noted to have made just exactly this offer himself, and then gives that TED talk rant at about 8:25 in the below link.

There are two things about this that are interesting for conservatives, who have long suspected Judge of having conservative (or libertarian, or at least liberal-skeptical) positions:

1. This Thiel analogue is the more attractive character of the two tech titans depicted. The Thiel analogue is helpful towards the heroes, wheres the Thiel analogue's rival seems to want to cheat the hero out of his invention.

The rival tech titan is a Blazing Douchebag who smugly propounds upon his devotion to "social justice." The Thiel analogue hasn't revealed his politics, but Peter Thiel himself is a conservative-leaning libertarian.

2. Mike Judge permits someone in the audience to talk back to the Thiel analogue, and say that his ideas are "dangerous," but that guy is a rumpled old hippie, and he is humiliated in verbal sparring by the Thiel analogue. He's left only to sputter "Fascist," impotently, as he leaves the auditorium.

This is probably the most mainstream reference to the idea of a growing Bubble in Higher Education and the current wretechedness of the college system (particularly when one factors in costs and benefits).

Worth a watch. Skip to 8:25, as I say, and watch the minute long second exchange.

I watched the show earlier today on YouTube. Overall, it's pretty good. It's plainly a Mike Judge production, with his sense of humor and sensibility obvious in the script.

Oh, being a Mike Judge production, and being on HBO, you should know there is some objectionable material here, all of the adult potty mouth sort. Though the minute I'm recommending is clean.

Posted by: Ace at 12:14 PM | Comments (242)
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1 But is everyone cis-gendered in this show?

Posted by: rd at April 08, 2014 12:16 PM (D+lxs)

2 Get willow.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 08, 2014 12:17 PM (/djtm)

3 This show is obviously a plot by the heteronormative patriarchy to oppress the liberation of the sexually oppressed.

Posted by: rd at April 08, 2014 12:18 PM (D+lxs)

4 The guy made Idiocracy. Everything he does from now on is worth a look-see.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 08, 2014 12:18 PM (7ObY1)

Will there be math? Cause I'm tired of it today.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at April 08, 2014 12:18 PM (cxVzi)

6 He's left only to sputter "Fascist," impotently, as he leaves the auditorium. hehe

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Chelsea ( 1 ) Paris SG ( 0 ) woot at April 08, 2014 12:18 PM (IXrOn)

7

This sucks!
aheheheheheh

Posted by: Beavis and Butt-head at April 08, 2014 12:19 PM (mETGQ)

King of the Hill totally flipped the Liberal Smart/Conservative Dumb script. (And the Dad Dumb/Mom Smart script.)

And Judge did an entire series* aimed at mocking liberals, "The Goode Family."

*Lasted 5 months.

Posted by: CJ at April 08, 2014 12:19 PM (9KqcB)

9 Yes, but has he donated to anyone who has ever opposed gay marriage? That is the real question here!

Posted by: DangerGirl at home with her Sanity Prod at April 08, 2014 12:19 PM (GrtrJ)

10 All you need to know is the Goode Family and Idiocracy, to confirm conclusively that Mike Judge is an anti-progressive sane man.

Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2014 12:19 PM (mizYg)

11 Judge has to be libertarian/ conservative.

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2014 12:20 PM (zqvg6)

12 And I HIGHLY recommend the Goode Family. It was hilarious.

Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2014 12:20 PM (mizYg)

13 Fly away .

Posted by: Lesbian Seagull at April 08, 2014 12:20 PM (XWw96)

14 Needs more boobs! Yeah!

Posted by: Beavis and Butt-head, longtime AoSHQ commenters at April 08, 2014 12:20 PM (ZKzrr)

15 From what I've seen in the promos, each 'laugh' is a painstaking effort to achieve.

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 12:21 PM (IKE1C)

16

That bloated Stay Puft perfesser of porn who beat up on the small white girl makes 125 grand per year.

If you look at a lot of these hacks, they make six figures.

Now, would that be indicative of a bit of a criminal enterprise?

Oh yes, oh yes.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at April 08, 2014 12:21 PM (xggaJ)

17 Dammit Ace, Where is the Al Sharpton thread? Snitches Get Stiches!

Posted by: visenjon at April 08, 2014 12:22 PM (VDovR)

18 "The rival tech titan is a Blazing Douchebag who smugly propounds upon his devotion to 'social justice.'"

Oh. So it's definitely reality-based, then.

I'm waiting to see if they have a bunch of Blazing Douchebag tech executives who blather on endlessly about "global warming", while at the same time maintaining a fleet of luxury private jets for their own use.

Blazing Douchebag tech execs who then fill up those planes of theirs with below-market-rate discount jet fuel at the government owned pumps at Moffett Federal Air Field in the Valley -- not a privilege extended to members of the general public -- after donating lotsa cash to the Obama campaign.

Because that too is reality-based. That's how sleazy things are now.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2014 12:22 PM (noWW6)

19 The funniest part was when the decided to adopt "an African child," and when he shows up, he's a blonde South African white kid. But, being the good liberals they are, they make him wear a African skullcap and a dashiki anyway. And then there's the dog they force to be vegetarian, who's literally going insane with his craving for meat. Every episode destroyed suburban liberalism.

Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2014 12:22 PM (mizYg)

20 8 King of the Hill totally flipped the Liberal Smart/Conservative Dumb script. (And the Dad Dumb/Mom Smart script.) Love that show, I tell you what. (This comment brought to you by The Arlen Advocate-Arlen's other newspaper.)

Posted by: Citizen X at April 08, 2014 12:22 PM (7ObY1)

21 $100k to drop out of college? Da fuq, why didn't hear about this? Not sure what I could have done had I taken it, but I'm sure I could have figured something out (honestly, why did I need a BS to do animal work?)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 12:22 PM (HDwDg)

22 "an error occurred. Please try again later."

Love youtube. Awesome.

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 12:23 PM (x3YFz)

23 Natalia Melnychuk @pravolivo NSDC deputy Sec. on #Luhansk: upper floors of SBU mined, 60 hostages inside, 500 occupiers w/ over 1000 weapons. Last attempt to negotiate Meanwhile in Donetsk, separatists still have govt building: David Patrikarakos ‏@dpatrikarakos Pro-#Russia crowds surrounding police bus chanting 'Berkut! Berkut!' #Ukraine David Patrikarakos ‏@dpatrikarakos Angry cried of pro-Russia forces surrounds parked police bus. Screaming and shouting at the police inside #Donetsk #Ukraine David Patrikarakos ‏@dpatrikarakos Policeman inside bus holds up a text on phone saying 'we are with the people. We are not going to storm the building.' #Donetsk #Ukraine

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 08, 2014 12:23 PM (ZPrif)

24 Mike Judge iss gennious. The guy made Idiocracy. Oh and a little thing called Office Space. Only the best movie ever made.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2014 12:23 PM (GXZgZ)

25 This is probably the most mainstream reference to the idea of a growing Bubble in Higher Education and the current wretechedness of the college system (particularly when one factors in costs and benefits). Good. People like Legal Insurrection's William Jacobson has started College Insurrection, but he still seems to cover a lot of the University and Institutional issues on both sites (maybe it's just cross referencing/marketing). His has more of a political and cultural slant than an economic one. At least that is what I perceive. http://collegeinsurrection.com/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Chelsea ( 1 ) Paris SG ( 0 ) woot at April 08, 2014 12:23 PM (IXrOn)

Without guidance from the Women's studies, Hispanic and African American studies departments, how will we ever make the poor little students know how they are oppressed by the patriarchy?

They might live long and happy lives without realizing their repression by the Euro-centric, heteronormative patriarchy.

Posted by: rd at April 08, 2014 12:24 PM (D+lxs)

27 Definitely sounds worth a look. I hadn't heard of Thiel before, but I definitely agree that for the truly exceptional (among other groups), college can be nothing more than a very expensive waste of time.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 12:24 PM (hFL/3)

28 The guy made Idiocracy. Enough said.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Chelsea ( 1 ) Paris SG ( 0 ) woot at April 08, 2014 12:24 PM (IXrOn)

29 Letting us watch? All of your Streams are belong to us.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2014 12:24 PM (bitz6)

Related Enough: Is anyone going to put Jenna Fisher aka Pam Haubert back on TV? I donÂ’t care how old she is I like looking at her on the TV.

Posted by: CJ at April 08, 2014 12:25 PM (9KqcB)

31 IMO, college still has a value as long as you don't major in anything that has the word "Studies" in it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 08, 2014 12:25 PM (8ZskC)

32 Office Space..... That's it. I knew I heard the name before. I will check his other stuff out. The best movie ever made still remains Rambo, First Blood Part 1 though.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 08, 2014 12:25 PM (32Ze2)

King of the Hill is the greatest animated show ever. I wonder if this Dautrieve guy who produced it with Judge is also a right leaning fellow.

I am wondering only because he now produces Bob's Burgers which could be the second greatest animated show ever.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2014 12:25 PM (m2CN7)

34 Got to go finish my T reports.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2014 12:26 PM (bitz6)

35 I'm the guy Judd Apatow wishes he was.

Posted by: Mike Judge at April 08, 2014 12:26 PM (Aif/5)

36 Only the best movie ever made. Oh, and remember, Friday is Hawaiian shirt day. So feel free to go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt, and jeans, you know, if you want to.

Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2014 12:26 PM (4+AaH)

37 The best movie ever made still remains Rambo, First Blood Part 1 though. Starring Brian Dennehy, I might humbly add.

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 12:26 PM (IKE1C)

38 Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Chelsea ( 1 ) Paris SG ( 0 ) woot at April 08, 2014 04:23 PM (IXrOn) And he despises Lieawatha

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 08, 2014 12:26 PM (/djtm)

39 >>>Dammit Ace, Where is the Al Sharpton thread? Snitches Get Stiches!<<<

Snitch we much!

Posted by: sorry, is this too hateful? at April 08, 2014 12:27 PM (08jH8)

40 Is this a reimagined 'Dallas' with J.R. Ewing? Only instead of oil, the villain is Google? Where's the funny in that? Google being a front for NSA?

Posted by: Smith!, She said at April 08, 2014 12:27 PM (BRbUM)

41 Brian Dennehy not only played the small town sheriff, Dennehy also played the Viet Kong in the film in the flashbacks.

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 12:27 PM (IKE1C)

42 Meh...where teh boobehs?

Posted by: dananjcon at April 08, 2014 12:27 PM (NpXoL)

Dammit Ace, Where is the Al Sharpton thread?

The best part of the Smoking Gun report is the opening. Listing all of the times he was welcomed to the White House and other Obama functions. Great stuff.

Posted by: CJ at April 08, 2014 12:28 PM (9KqcB)

44 Shit got real.

Posted by: Tawana Brawley at April 08, 2014 12:28 PM (bitz6)

45 I lost 3 inches off my penis and balded due to the assholery of that video.

The sweaters alone made me want to punch a baby.

Ace? What The Fuck?

Gayness x10^21.

Fuck! I'm going to need to go out and fix 20 tractors, drive a truck and get some cowgirls excited just to purge myself of the faggotry that was that video.

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 12:29 PM (x3YFz)

46 I liked "Idiocracy". But I don't have HBO.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2014 12:29 PM (jOB/f)

47 Also a waste of money for stay at home moms. Just saying. *writes check to Sallie Mae*

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 12:29 PM (hFL/3)

48 So how quickly will he be sent to the Thought Gulags by Lena?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 08, 2014 12:29 PM (lDQn8)

49 I was once at a small party in Austin and Judge was a guest. I'm a fan. There were only 30 people or so and I could have probably chatted with him for an hour. Instead I spent the time trying to take a flakey actress home. Now he's a big cheese. Life has its regrets.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 08, 2014 12:29 PM (1KNtg)

Posted by: Citizen X at April 08, 2014 04:22 PM (7ObY1)

I think Peggy Hill, the woman who thinks too highly of her intellectual capabilities, was the best character.

"Wait, I think I see where I'm going with this..."

Posted by: CJ at April 08, 2014 12:29 PM (9KqcB)

51 45 Shit got real. Posted by: Tawana Brawley AoS: Come for the politics, stay for the historically accurate fecal references.

Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2014 12:29 PM (mizYg)

Interesting. I just assumed this was going to be pablum, having only heard the name of it, and the fact that it was on HBO.

I wonder if HBO knows their name brand is a barrier to viewership.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2014 12:30 PM (TOk1P)

53 I thought Blazing Douchebags was a Mel Brooks movie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 08, 2014 12:30 PM (4tAp3)

54 The education bubble is either going to occur or it won't (I think it will). So why care whether the theory becomes mainstream or not? The nature of bubbles is that certain people become aware too late, but only those left holding the bag at the end. If it continues forever, then it isn't a bubble, its just growth. I think for those with young kids the idea that college is a must is sort of dying. There are certainly some benefits to college, as the hippie said, many are intangible. There is nothing wrong with that ... if you can afford it (or you are willing to accept the risk that there may be no tangible benefit). To each their prerogative. As for me, I am unwilling to save thousands of dollars for a dubious education for my children, even though I benefited from such education on my parent's dime. But if I have the money and can easily afford it, I reserve the right to change my mind.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 12:31 PM (gmeXX)

55 43 Meh...where teh boobehs? Posted by: dananjcon __________________________ And where are the car chases?

Posted by: Furious George at April 08, 2014 12:31 PM (yFb77)

56 pabulum

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 12:31 PM (IKE1C)

57 I watched some of it, it looks kind of funny.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 08, 2014 12:31 PM (igKtt)

58 >>>Dammit Ace, Where is the Al Sharpton thread? I'll do that next. It's such a long article. I have a brief thing in draft.

Posted by: ace at April 08, 2014 12:31 PM (/FnUH)

59 Also a waste of money for stay at home moms. Just saying. *writes check to Sallie Mae* Though an education for it's own sake is a good idea. Or was when tuition wasn't so ridiculous.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2014 12:32 PM (GXZgZ)

60 IMO, college still has a value as long as you don't major in anything that has the word "Studies" in it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 08, 2014 04:25 PM (8ZskC)

----------------------------------------

Yup. To prosper, one must avoid that word at any cost.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2014 12:32 PM (jOB/f)

Semi-related: they promote Silicon Valley endlessly on my Comcast OnDemand. It's auto-play, whenever you're looking for the unwatched half of Game of Thrones S3 02, you're hearing whatever they're plugging. Also, if you're looking for whatever the current equivalent of Blues Clues is.

The cut they keep showing has nerd boy being mocked for his logo: "It looks like a guy sucking a dick, with a spare dick tucked in his ear".

Now, I'm a libertine. I exposed my kids to more adult stuff way earlier than most dads do. But that's a conscious choice I made, and I made it case by case. It kind of skeeves me that a mom looking for something to watch with her 8 year old is forced to show him dick jokes.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 08, 2014 12:32 PM (JtwS4)

62 btw, Republican Christian Conservative Vance McCallister

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 12:32 PM (IKE1C)

63 We need better skill certifications, so people can prove what they know and what they can do. If companies trust the certs that goes a long way.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 08, 2014 12:32 PM (ZPrif)

64 Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Chelsea ( 1 ) Paris SG ( 0 ) woot at April 08, 2014 04:23 PM (IXrOn) And he despises Lieawatha Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 08, 2014 04:26 PM (/djtm) hehe, yea Warpath like.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Chelsea ( 2 ) Paris SG ( 0 ) woot! at April 08, 2014 12:33 PM (IXrOn)

65 Also, obama signs executive order for equal pay for women; Republicans oppose. And that's your 'news' for today.

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 12:33 PM (IKE1C)

66 Vance McCallister ---- Do the noble thing (since you already did the ignoble thing), announce you are not seeking reelection.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 12:34 PM (gmeXX)

67 Thursday on TCM they will show Blazing Saddles.

College for monied Southern Belles meant they got a bit of polishing while they shopped for a husband. The GI Bill for returning WWII vets did make sense and grew the economy.

Then the colleges got addicted to the money and like all addicts had to get more and here we are, about to watch the colleges have the DTs when the government runs out of money to throw at them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 08, 2014 12:34 PM (lDQn8)

34 -

King of the Hill... honestly, I've seen enough episodes that I ought to know why, but the show bored the heck out of me. Not funny, no interesting characters or story lines...

Oh well, to each their own.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2014 12:34 PM (TOk1P)

69 Not to quip, but I've seen actual TED talks that appeared to have better production value.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 12:35 PM (gmeXX)

70 Nobility is for 2nd place finishers. The High Road is paved with Failure.

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 12:35 PM (IKE1C)

71 Meh...where teh boobehs?

http://is.gd/bP2ZKJ

Posted by: HR at April 08, 2014 12:35 PM (ZKzrr)

72 But those seven ~~minutes~~ seconds were awesome. ...no, that's what she said.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 08, 2014 12:36 PM (naUcP)

73 This would definitely be a Moron approved lunch for the kidlet.

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Lunchbox-Dad-18.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 08, 2014 12:36 PM (lDQn8)

74 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 08, 2014 04:34 PM (lDQn I think it's a bit more complicated than that, not that it's wrong, just incomplete. Keep in mind colleges also tried to usurp the role of some of the things that could be handled in trade schools. Then there was the rapid expansion of things that are not fields becoming degrees to satisfy everyone's whim of studying "they're heart."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 12:36 PM (HDwDg)

75 New chrome browser is out. Has support of responsive images. ... I do not know what that is or why I should want that.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 08, 2014 12:36 PM (ZPrif)

76 support for, not of

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 08, 2014 12:37 PM (ZPrif)

77 The GI Bill for returning WWII vets did make sense and grew the economy. ----- There is no proof that the GI bill in any way grew the economy. The economy grew because we were the producer and supermarket to the world with a motivated workforce. I'm ok with the GI bill. Those guys deserved it.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 12:37 PM (gmeXX)

78 34 King of the Hill is the greatest animated show ever. I wonder if this Dautrieve guy who produced it with Judge is also a right leaning fellow. That's my purse! I don't know you!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 08, 2014 12:37 PM (RMg6O)

79 65 We need better skill certifications, so people can prove what they know and what they can do. If companies trust the certs that goes a long way. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 08, 2014 04:32 PM (ZPrif) ---------------------- No can do. "Disparate impact."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 08, 2014 12:38 PM (dfYL9)

80 Now, I'm a libertine. I exposed my kids to more adult stuff way earlier than most dads do. But that's a conscious choice I made, and I made it case by case. It kind of skeeves me that a mom looking for something to watch with her 8 year old is forced to show him dick jokes.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 08, 2014 04:32 PM (JtwS4)

Having a daughter, 22, I agree. Had she grown up in the current environment?

My friend has a 15 year old daughter and she sits and watches MTV and texts non-stop. Dick. Ass. Pussy. all day long.

It's soul crushing. Shit when I was 15 we had to figure it out on our own, which was good. Nowdays? They're sucking cock on kids shows.

Way to go, human race; nice job America.

Idiots.

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 12:38 PM (x3YFz)

81 New chrome browser is out. Has support of responsive images. It means the pictures are watching you.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2014 12:38 PM (GXZgZ)

82 Also, obama signs executive order for equal pay for women; Republicans oppose.

And that's your 'news' for today.

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 04:33 PM (IKE1C)

----------------------------------------------

There's going to be a lot of men working for the fed that are going to get a pay cut.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2014 12:38 PM (jOB/f)

83 Responsive images appear to be about web design that works across phone, tablet, pc. I think. No idea why it's called "responsive".

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 08, 2014 12:39 PM (ZPrif)

84 I wrote a paper in my Masters program about education changing to have more vocational credit programs and less college. It was not well received in 1998. But I saw this in practice in the nuclear industry, where skilled tradesmen would get certified out the yang, with high school diplomas they were pulling down big bucks as pipe fitters and welders and plant operators. Eventually, I figured, this is how we would do computer technicians and operators, who mostly don't need art appreciation or whatever to do their skilled jobs. I think this is coming, but the universities are kicking and screaming against it. Plus, you know, war on women because they get better grades in the softer stuff.

Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2014 12:39 PM (4+AaH)

85 It was the Faustian bargains the colleges made. To keep the grant money going they prostituted themselves with far more verve than they ever did chasing a DuPont since the government has far more money. And with them surrendering to radicals in the 60s on their demands.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 08, 2014 12:39 PM (lDQn8)

86
That first scene is pretty good with Kid Rock playing to the techs with no women around and then the guy saying whoohoo our software rocks to a couple golf claps.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 08, 2014 12:39 PM (hUf/y)

87

Al Sharpton his his wire in one of his medallions.

Because a black man GOTSTA wear a medallion, you got a problem with that mothafugga!

Sheeeit!

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at April 08, 2014 12:39 PM (xggaJ)

88 It's going to be the progs that suffer the most from the education bubble . Worthless degrees that leave the typical prog a debt slave for life will probably create a few converts to the dark side ......... of conservatism .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 08, 2014 12:39 PM (XWw96)

89 Not to quip, but I've seen actual TED talks that appeared to have better production value.

Posted by: SH

I'll gladly trade you a metric shit-ton of production value for an ounce of useful wisdom.

TED talks, for the most part, are masturbatory exercises in repackaged banality.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 08, 2014 12:40 PM (HRlKD)

That is funny. He better have weighted down his smart car though.

It's dangerous out there.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 08, 2014 12:40 PM (tVTLU)

91 Idiocracy, Office Space, King of the Hill...good track record...

Posted by: brak at April 08, 2014 12:40 PM (iEoiA)

92 Actually I believe in the last year at least 97% of ALL consumer debt has been driven by car loans and college loans only. There is over a Trillion in debt held by "private" Sallie Mae. Default rates are rising virtually every month. Hard to pay back 35K when you are working part-time at the diner.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 08, 2014 12:40 PM (c9PA0)

93 Oh, and Beavis and Butthead of course

Posted by: brak at April 08, 2014 12:41 PM (iEoiA)

94 New chrome browser is out.
Has support of responsive images.

...

I do not know what that is or why I should want that.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 08, 2014 04:36 PM (ZPrif)

you don't. It's a Google product. Therefore it tracks you.

Hint: avoid all Apple or Google software.

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 12:41 PM (x3YFz)

95 Brak 2016!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 08, 2014 12:41 PM (lDQn8)

96
Brian Dennehy not only played the small town sheriff, Dennehy also played the Viet Kong in the film in the flashbacks.

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 04:27 PM (IKE1C)

Not to mention playing the helicopter in the ravine fight scene.

One other great thing about First Blood. Stallone stabs David Caruso in the ass with a bowie knife.

No sunglasses though.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2014 12:41 PM (TIIx5)

97 I'll gladly trade you a metric shit-ton of production value for an ounce of useful wisdom. TED talks, for the most part, are masturbatory exercises in repackaged banality. ----- Well it takes some production value to get your message across. I didn't watch the whole episode so maybe it is better than I thought. Maybe it was done by design. I was just surprised for an HBO show.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 12:41 PM (gmeXX)

98 Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2014 04:39 PM (4+AaH) One problem with the skilled trades is that they can be hell on your body as you grow older.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 08, 2014 12:41 PM (oMKp3)

>>>Keep in mind colleges also tried to usurp the role of some of the things that could be handled in trade schools.

For example, education and business. Which had seperate campuses and their own frats, etc. but they were never "college" in the same sense. It changed, especially for business schools around late-60s early 70s with the advent of community colleges which had the cachet of "college" and cost about the same as a trade school. Then those business and trade schools were mocked and became things like Bryant and Stratton is today: Places for dead-enders to learn some marketable skills so as to achieve marginality and learn some manners.

Posted by: Bigby's Velvet Glove at April 08, 2014 12:42 PM (3ZtZW)

100 Nobody in the Feral Gubmint will get a pay cut. The Wimmenz will all get 25% raises.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 08, 2014 12:43 PM (32Ze2)

101 "Though an education for it's own sake is a good idea. Or was when tuition wasn't so ridiculous." Now that so many schools offer their courses online for free, I see zero reason to go to college if your goal is simply to become more educated. There are definitely some jobs that require a college degree. I don't disagree with that. It's just that the number of jobs that require a college degree is far lower than the number of jobs that now "require" a college degree due to the influx of the -studies crowd.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 12:43 PM (hFL/3)

102 "TED talks, for the most part, are masturbatory exercises in repackaged banality."

Yup. And meant to appeal to the "cool kids."

It's mostly nonsense. Like 99% nonsense.

TED is nerd for 'useless information'

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 12:44 PM (x3YFz)

103

>>>We need better skill certifications, so people can prove what they know and what they can do.

Meh. Half of all certifications are a means to exclude otherwise worthy pracitioners from entering that field. Which group then unionize and become unfireable.

Teachers are the poster children for that exact thing.

Posted by: Bigby's Velvet Glove at April 08, 2014 12:44 PM (3ZtZW)

104 Also unremarked in the cancerous explosion of the higher education industry:

_Griggs v. Duke Power_, one of the most preposterous Supreme Court decisions ever (and of course that's saying something in the era of "emanations and penumbras").

Companies used to hire people without college degrees and then use tools like IQ testing to promote the smart ones.

Because when you're putting people in charge of things like large power plants, as Duke Power did and does, things that catastrophically catch on fire or explode if mishandled by dumb people, having smart people in charge is important. To say nothing of the importance to the public of reliable power supplies. So: filter by IQ.

Oops! Certain ethnicities don't do well on IQ testing. Teh rayciss!

So the use of such testing became illegal. Thank you SCOTUS!

It took under five milliseconds for all of those jobs which had not previously been thought to require a college degree to suddenly, hey presto, require a college degree.

See also: trying to squeeze the balloon smaller.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2014 12:45 PM (noWW6)

105 Once upon a time, parents and students choose a degree for its ROI: there were "serious" degrees in things like STEM, ones that actually tended to help civilization along by doing practical things to make peoples' lives better. Exactly when "bullshit" degrees in low paying fields with little value to society became popular, I couldn't tell you, but they appear to be the rage these days. Maybe I'm just old, but no one I knew ever got a degree in Womyn's Studies because there was no market for that "knowledge." When did that change?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 08, 2014 12:45 PM (0HooB)

106 Because a black man GOTSTA wear a medallion, you got a problem with that mothafugga!
Does Jay Z's medallion have a transmitter in it?
Maybe to communicate with higher life forms.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 08, 2014 12:45 PM (4tAp3)

107 For those of you like me that don't have HBO but know someone that has an HBO Go acct that trusts you. Take a look at this.

"Go ahead and share your HBO Go account, HBO doesn't mind"

http://tinyurl.com/mxmrj2g

Link to The Verge which was the first hit in my search.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 08, 2014 12:45 PM (tf9Ne)

108

College loan debts are totally ready to be the next Democrat vote buying gift. First, they've dramatically expanded the debts and encouraged people to buy useless degrees in "communications" and "criminal justice", racking up huge debts. Then they kicked banks out of the market, so government totally controls the granting and disposition of the debts. Lastly, they toughened up the terms and made the debts undischargable in bankruptcy (which is fucking amazing, in and of itself).

What's that all add up to? It's obvious: A Congressional move to forgive debts en masse in 5....4....3...2....1

Posted by: MTF at April 08, 2014 12:45 PM (LISuA)

109 Yale University Tells Student SheÂ’s Too Thin The student cooperated with school officials at first, trying to gain weight but has since refused to comply. She has no eating disorder and claims sheÂ’s just naturally thin. Frances Chan says sheÂ’s done stuffing her face with ice cream and Cheetos just to make Yale University happy. After months of wrangling, the university finally agrees. "Higher" learning. http://collegeinsurrection.com/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Chelsea ( 2 ) Paris SG ( 0 ) woot! at April 08, 2014 12:45 PM (IXrOn)

110

Half of all certifications are a means to exclude otherwise worthy pracitioners from entering that field

That, and licensing requirements. It's the guilds. You need a license from the government to be a barber. To protect the citizenry from bad haircuts?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 08, 2014 12:46 PM (JtwS4)

111 Meh...where teh boobehs?

http://is.gd/bP2ZKJ

Posted by: HR at April 08, 2014 04:35 PM (ZKzrr)

***

Doh! That ole gag!!

Posted by: dananjcon at April 08, 2014 12:46 PM (NpXoL)

112 One problem with the skilled trades is that they can be hell on your body as you grow older. Which is an acceptable trade off for men. Less acceptable for women. It's kinda the TARP thing where the feminists got upset because they were talking burly men jobs. So we didn't support the burly men jobs, and now we have a mancession. Tech is not as hard on the body, but staying in the forefront of technology can be hard as we age. People aren't going to go back for new degrees. Tech training is going to have to bridge the gap, and certification is going to have to exist to assess it. Oh, and the unionization will likely happen then, too.

Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2014 12:47 PM (4+AaH)

113 Eventually, I figured, this is how we would do computer technicians and operators, who mostly don't need art appreciation or whatever to do their skilled jobs.

Posted by: blaster

High school really should become a work/study program with apprenticeships and the like.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 08, 2014 12:47 PM (HRlKD)

114

<i>One other great thing about First Blood. Stallone stabs David Caruso in the ass </i>

Go on...

Posted by: Ronan Farrow at April 08, 2014 12:48 PM (EDWuJ)

115 I saw "Silicon Valley" it was "smile humor" at best. Okay, nothing great but they did a good job setting up some personalities and possible future conflicts. I'll give it a few more episodes to see if this dog will walk or not. When Judge is on, he's great. When he's off, you get "Extract".

Posted by: naturalfake at April 08, 2014 12:48 PM (0cMkb)

116 feature, not bug Arthur Brooks ‏@arthurbrooks "Health insurance premiums are showing the sharpest increases perhaps ever." - @ScottGottliebMD

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 08, 2014 12:48 PM (ZPrif)

117 Al Sharpton his his wire in one of his medallions. Because a black man GOTSTA wear a medallion, you got a problem with that mothafugga! Medallions make a great 10 ring. //Vinny The Finger

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2014 12:48 PM (cUARf)

118 "Griggs v Duke Power"

Posted by: phunctor at April 08, 2014 12:48 PM (pIfo3)

119 College is and of itself is not a problem. It is merely the cost of it. There is the direct cost of going and opportunity cost of not working which have to be weighed against the tangible and intangible benefits. In years past the direct cost were low and the opportunity cost were low, but the tangible benefits were high (and for some professions are still high) and the intangible benefits also had some value (e.g., meeting wife, a form of networking). But now, those are all inverted. Further, there are added negatives that have arisen from the liberalization of the campus environment. It will be interesting to see what transpires over the next 20 years. For one, there is a demographic issue for college because a "baby bust" will be following the millennial baby boom in about 10 years.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 12:49 PM (gmeXX)

120 I loved that Judge named one of the characters in King of the Hill after the child's plate at Luby's. Luanne Platter still cracks me up.

Posted by: no good deed at April 08, 2014 12:49 PM (ILBCY)

121

In fact, the GOP should pass a debt forgiveness first, and get ahead of the shithead progressives, in return for which an equal amount gets shaved from 'administrative costs" in HHS, IRS, Justice, Commerce etc etc (everything except Defense).

It's a two-fer: we get to claim we wanted to forgive student loan debt, but the evil Democrats who hate students and the middle class refused, and we get to say we wanted to eleiminate only champagne in the bath tub from HHS and make Eric Fucking Holder buy his own private jets rather than use the taxpayers, but Democrats are so wedded to spending big on fraud and waste that they refused.

Posted by: MTF at April 08, 2014 12:49 PM (LISuA)

122 Because a black man GOTSTA wear a medallion, you got a problem with that mothafugga!
Does Jay Z's medallion have a transmitter in it?
Maybe to communicate with higher life forms.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 08, 2014 04:45 PM (4tAp3)

Ancient Alien Theorists have found proof positive that Jayzee in a race-hustlin-douch-bag.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 08, 2014 12:49 PM (NpXoL)

123 Sad that Luanne died.

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 12:49 PM (IKE1C)

124 Hokay boss gotta go do calling hours stuff for friends of the family. Laterz

Posted by: Bigby's Velvet Glove at April 08, 2014 12:50 PM (3ZtZW)

125 My son is going off to Kollidge in August. We had the opportunity to meet with all the MD students going to Flagler College in St Augustine FL. It was fun. I am a bit jealous of the boy as he goes off on this adventure with my money. The wimmenz were smokin' hot.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 08, 2014 12:50 PM (32Ze2)

126 Exactly when "bullshit" degrees in low paying fields with little value to society became popular, I couldn't tell you, but they appear to be the rage these days. Maybe I'm just old, but no one I knew ever got a degree in Womyn's Studies because there was no market for that "knowledge." When did that change? When a piece of paper/degree in "anything" meant more than 20 years experience.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2014 12:50 PM (cUARf)

127 "there were "serious" degrees in things like STEM, ones that actually tended to help civilization along by doing practical things to make peoples' lives better. " I would agree, but some STEM degrees are pretty useless on their own as well. Like a Biology undergrad. Hope you like selling text books!

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 12:50 PM (hFL/3)

128 Private certifications should not be confused with governmental licensing. One is not like the other. Of course, the problem becomes that the government coopts the former by imposing the latter on those with the former.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 12:51 PM (gmeXX)

129 did the site cover the naked woman in mcdonalds yet? it was weird how she just ran around breaking and destroying equipment and no one stopped her because, why? naked breasts?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 08, 2014 12:51 PM (IXrOn)

130 "Maybe I'm just old, but no one I knew ever got a degree in Womyn's Studies because there was no market for that 'knowledge.'"

As someone else pointed out, take a look at the diploma on the wall the next time you're in an office of someone in a corporate human resources department.

More than nine-tenths of HR honchos are women, and a substantial bloc of those have degrees in things like Women's Studies.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2014 12:52 PM (noWW6)

131 Maybe I'm just old, but no one I knew ever got a degree in Womyn's Studies because there was no market for that "knowledge." In the 80s I almost had a threesome with my girlfriend and a gal we knew who went on to have a PhD in Women's Studies. There's your market right there.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 08, 2014 12:53 PM (MhGKF)

132 College loan debts are totally ready to be the next Democrat vote buying gift. First, they've dramatically expanded the debts and encouraged people to buy useless degrees in "communications" and "criminal justice", racking up huge debts. Then they kicked banks out of the market, so government totally controls the granting and disposition of the debts. Lastly, they toughened up the terms and made the debts undischargable in bankruptcy (which is fucking amazing, in and of itself).

What's that all add up to? It's obvious: A Congressional move to forgive debts en masse in 5....4....3...2....1

Posted by: MTF at April 08, 2014 04:45 PM (LISuA)

-----------------------------------------

I've been talking about this since 2012. It's one of the "fixes" the preezy/dems have up their sleeves to disrupt any kind of a tsunami election in either 2014 or 2016. Well, that plus voting fraud.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2014 12:53 PM (t1NtO)

133

did the site cover the naked woman in mcdonalds yet?

Yes, and the first moron who guessed "Florida" got an embossed keychain.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 08, 2014 12:53 PM (JtwS4)

134 I would agree, but some STEM degrees are pretty useless on their own as well. Like a Biology undergrad. Hope you like selling text books! My nephew has a biology degree. I don't have a clue what one does with a Biology Degree. At least it's not "studies".

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2014 12:54 PM (GXZgZ)

135 Tech training is going to have to bridge the gap, and certification is going to have to exist to assess it. I have three Certificates, a total of just over six years of study. If it were kollidge, I'd have the equivalent of a Masters Degree in Manufacturing Technology. I was told they were the ticket to a good job. They are useless to me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 08, 2014 12:55 PM (0HooB)

136 did the site cover the naked woman in mcdonalds yet? Yes, and the first moron who guessed "Florida" got an embossed keychain. Yeah. Ace is out 173 key chains.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2014 12:55 PM (cUARf)

137 Higher education really jumped the shark when the Democrats started pushing college degrees for everyone.The first I remember hearing of it was during the Clinton years.

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2014 12:55 PM (zqvg6)

138 Exactly when "bullshit" degrees in low paying fields with little value to society became popular, I couldn't tell you, - My guess is during the Vietnam War. Education deferments meant hippies stayed in school longer and there were all sorts of sit ins and riots for black history, womyn's studies and a bunch of other junk.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 08, 2014 12:56 PM (1/efD)

139 I saw that Naked McDonalds Woman. Nice cans. If I worked there I wouldn't have stopped her. She just might have been on something. Plus, it was a fantastic show.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 08, 2014 12:56 PM (32Ze2)

140 "It's kinda the TARP thing where the feminists got upset because they were talking burly men jobs. So we didn't support the burly men jobs, and now we have a mancession."

Yep. So we have a mancession. What we do _not_ have is the necessary national infrastructure repair which the "stimulus" was originally meant to provide. As you say, too many burly-man jobs in that version of the plan.

Eight hundred and sixty BILLION bucks down the toilet and really all we have to show for it in terms of durable public goods are a few bike paths, dog parks and turtle tunnels.

Oh, and in a few places, the re-paving of roads that had previously been re-paved as recently as the previous year. Because pork.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2014 12:57 PM (noWW6)

141 "My nephew has a biology degree. I don't have a clue what one does with a Biology Degree. " You go to med school or grad school. Or you go find some job that has absolutely nothing to do with biology but requires a BS or BA in anything. Or you sell textbooks/med supplies/ drugs. Although I think some of that is starting to require higher level degrees as well. I have a lot of friends who went in that direction.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 12:57 PM (hFL/3)

142 My daughter got a minor in Women's Studies at Wisconsin-Madison of all places. The Berkeley of the Midwest. She's a conservative Christian with a Masters degree in nursing, a Clinical Nurse Specialist and is pursuing her Doctorate in Nursing. She votes Republican. So strange things can happen , even to "those" women.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 08, 2014 12:58 PM (oMKp3)

143 Eight hundred and sixty BILLION bucks down the toilet and really all we have to show for it in terms of durable public goods are a few bike paths, dog parks and turtle tunnels. Oh, and in a few places, the re-paving of roads that had previously been re-paved as recently as the previous year. Because pork. Posted by: torquewrench It's turtle tunnels all the way down.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 08, 2014 12:59 PM (GTxyP)

144 Eight hundred and sixty BILLION bucks down the toilet and really all we have to show for it in terms of durable public goods are a few bike paths, dog parks and turtle tunnels. And they still won't stomp their own spiders.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2014 12:59 PM (cUARf)

145 Is there such a thing as" Men's Studies" ?

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2014 12:59 PM (zqvg6)

146 I'll say this until I'm blue in the face....it matters a) what college b) grades Going to Never Hear of It U and graduating with a 2.5 GPA is a waste of time and money Graduating from a top 50 school with a 3.5 GPA is the best investment possible Just outright saying oh college is such a waste of time is ridiculous

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 12:59 PM (0LHZx)

147 "...the re-paving of roads that had previously been re-paved as recently as the previous year. Because pork."

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2014 04:57 PM (noWW6)

They can't even send pork to where it would do the most good.

NYC, a reliable liberal swamp, has unbelievably bad roads.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 08, 2014 12:59 PM (QFxY5)

148

College is and of itself is not a problem. It is merely the cost of it. There is the direct cost of going and opportunity cost of not working which have to be weighed against the tangible and intangible benefits. In years past the direct cost were low and the opportunity cost were low, but the tangible benefits were high (and for some professions are still high) and the intangible benefits also had some value (e.g., meeting wife, a form of networking).

--------------------------------------------

I graduated the semester right before tuition and fees started spiraling out of control. I count myself as lucky to have had such good timing.

Posted by: Soona at April 08, 2014 12:59 PM (t1NtO)

149 "I have three Certificates, a total of just over six years of study. If it were kollidge, I'd have the equivalent of a Masters Degree in Manufacturing Technology."

What is this "manufacturing" of which you speak?

Posted by: 21st Century "Free Trade" America at April 08, 2014 12:59 PM (noWW6)

150 146 At least FDR built shit with his stimulus spending.

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2014 01:00 PM (zqvg6)

151 Exactly when "bullshit" degrees in low paying fields with little value to society became popular, I couldn't tell you, but they appear to be the rage these days. Maybe I'm just old, but no one I knew ever got a degree in Womyn's Studies because there was no market for that "knowledge."

When did that change?

When "every kid must college" via reduced admission standards and federal loans became a thing. After the non-scholars get admitted , they have to major in something, and they can't make it in the departments that still have some rigour but they've gotta go somewhere.

Posted by: HR at April 08, 2014 01:00 PM (ZKzrr)

152 The best movie ever made still remains Rambo, First Blood Part 1 though. Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 08, 2014 04:25 PM (32Ze2) O.O Srly?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at April 08, 2014 01:00 PM (R7Fq5)

153 So strange things can happen , even to "those" women. Good for her. IMO, nurses fall into the "societal benefits" column.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 08, 2014 01:00 PM (0HooB)

154 What is this "manufacturing" of which you speak?

Indiana still does a bunch of it. Some of it you don't even have to join UAW.

Posted by: HR at April 08, 2014 01:01 PM (ZKzrr)

155 What's this? The Left is changing the name of their weather sham-power-grab again?? Climate Shift is now the new name.

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 01:01 PM (IKE1C)

156 And the degree matters to some extent but as long as it's a good school and good grades, it doesn't matter what degree it's in.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 01:01 PM (0LHZx)

157 Is there such a thing as" Men's Studies" ? Pr0n.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2014 01:01 PM (cUARf)

158 "raduating from a top 50 school with a 3.5 GPA is the best investment possible " Not if you have useless degree. If your degree is useless, you would be much better served at Cheap Random College of America where at least your useless degree didn't cost a fortune.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 01:01 PM (hFL/3)

159 When "every kid must college" via reduced admission standards and federal loans became a thing. After the non-scholars get admitted , they have to major in something, and they can't make it in the departments that still have some rigour but they've gotta go somewhere. Good explain HR person.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2014 01:02 PM (GXZgZ)

160 157 Well,it already covers everything.Shifts as necessary.

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2014 01:02 PM (zqvg6)

161 Caucasian American Studies?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2014 01:03 PM (bitz6)

162 "it doesn't matter what degree it's in." Yes, it does. A social worker will likely never break 50K, even if she's got a degree from the best school of social work in the country.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 01:03 PM (hFL/3)

163 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 05:01 PM (0LHZx)

And all investment bankers have philosophy or english degrees.

There are plenty of Ivy leaguers who are under/unemployed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 08, 2014 01:03 PM (QFxY5)

164 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 08, 2014 04:51 PM (IXrOn) Because liability. Defend self first, call police, do not engage. Sadly that's what I recall being taught back in my fast food days.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 01:03 PM (HDwDg)

165 Not if you have useless degree. If your degree is useless, you would be much better served at Cheap Random College of America where at least your useless degree didn't cost a fortune. Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 05:01 PM (hFL/3) _____________ Useless degrees are only useless if obtained from useless schools. Basket Weaving from Harvard > Electrical Engineering from State U. It's the way the world works.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 01:03 PM (0LHZx)

166 I'm still a week behind on Justified.

Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel at April 08, 2014 01:04 PM (IKE1C)

167 "And the degree matters to some extent but as long as it's a good school and good grades, it doesn't matter what degree it's in."

Which explains all of the utterly incompetent Ivy graduates I've come across over the years. Good school! Good grades! What more could you want?

Social promotion messes up societies. Whether it's social promotion of an inner city kid who can't read being given a high school degree anyway, or social promotion of a mediocre guy who got in to Harvard because daddy is a wealthy alumnus.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2014 01:04 PM (noWW6)

168 NYC, a reliable liberal swamp, has unbelievably bad roads. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo You drive the JFK in Maryland and you might drive right into a pothole the size of a sinkhole. They don't "fix" potholes, the unions "repair" them every year.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 08, 2014 01:05 PM (mARqz)

169 Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 05:03 PM (hFL/3)

It's moo-moo....facts don't matter.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 08, 2014 01:05 PM (QFxY5)

170 did the site cover the naked woman in mcdonalds yet? Yes, and the first moron who guessed "Florida" got an embossed keychain. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 08, 2014 04:53 PM (JtwS4) Hah, thanks. Shucks, I missed out on the raffle.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 08, 2014 01:05 PM (IXrOn)

171 Let's face it.... after the way O'Vomit has performed, do you think that people still respect a degree from the Ivys? Not me. There are a lot of grade inflated Ivy League types that function at a level just a smidge above retard.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 08, 2014 01:05 PM (32Ze2)

172 Another thing - we contributed exactly one thousand dollars to each of our children's college educations. The rest of the money was their responsibility. They worked. And of course, Army.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 08, 2014 01:05 PM (oMKp3)

173

Ain't no fixing stupid.

Like Roy Batty said...I've seen things...you people wouldn't believe.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at April 08, 2014 01:05 PM (xggaJ)

174 Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 04:57 PM (hFL/3) Used to be you did technical lab work. But lots of companies have been laying people off flooding the market with far more experienced people. Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 05:03 PM (hFL/3) Pfffft. They'll just go into government bureaucracy. Instant money.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 01:06 PM (HDwDg)

175 And all investment bankers have philosophy or english degrees. There are plenty of Ivy leaguers who are under/unemployed. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 08, 2014 05:03 PM (QFxY5) ________ Not all, but most have non-business degrees, at least undergrad. And no, the % of Ivy Leaguers who are unemployed is very low. You have to be straight up lazy or unmotivated to have graduated from an Ivy, or Seven Sisters, or similar caliber and not be doing well career wise.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 01:06 PM (0LHZx)

176 Yup whatever misguided respect I had for the Ivies is pretty much gone.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2014 01:06 PM (GXZgZ)

177 Basket Weaving from Harvard > Electrical Engineering from State U.

Ain't no Harvard basket weavers ever walked on the moon.

Can't say that about the electrical engineering department at Purdue.

Posted by: HR at April 08, 2014 01:07 PM (ZKzrr)

178 Just outright saying oh college is such a waste of time is ridiculous

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 04:59 PM (0LHZx)

It pisses me off that a 4.0 from a decent relatively unknown college doesn't get you in the same doors as a 3.0 from what you deem a top 50 school. The reason most get to go to a top 50 school other than a scholarship is because they have some one who is paying the 40k to 100k a year in tuition and board. They are not necessarily a better candidate, they just have more access to money.

Life's not fair but I don't have to like it.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2014 01:07 PM (m2CN7)

179 I liked it. Too bad I have to wait for Episode 2 to come out on NetFlix.

Posted by: fluffy at April 08, 2014 01:07 PM (Ua6T/)

180 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 05:03 PM (0LHZx) Completely absurd. I have friends with compsci degrees from state school that aren't even flagship state schools and I'm willing to be they make more than the vast majority of "Woman's studies" majors from Harvard. And to be honest, they haven't even reached their earning peak yet.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 01:07 PM (HDwDg)

181 Do you all think it's just a coincidence that pretty much anyone in power went to an Ivy league school? Obama. Bush. Kerry. Both Clintons. Ted Cruz. You name someone with power in this country it, and there's a Harvard or Yale or Princeton degree there. But yeah, it doesn't matter. Just go to community college and you'll do just as well as Yale.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 01:08 PM (0LHZx)

182 Posted by: HR at April 08, 2014 05:07 PM (ZKzrr) Ryan Braun just hit a homer. Brewers lead Phillies 4-1

Posted by: grammie winger at April 08, 2014 01:08 PM (oMKp3)

183 In the end, the person matters more than the degree. The person who wants to succeed is probably going to get a degree that makes sense or excel in one. The person who is concerned with other things may get a studies degree or may go to an average college. Many successful people would likely be just as successful if they had a studies degree if that is what they wanted to study.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 01:08 PM (gmeXX)

184 I have kids who are bright and in previous eras would have been college bound for sure. Not so now. One might do it but only if he gets a free ride in the only engineering field that interests him. The other is thinking he'd rather go the trade school route so he can tune cars. He might eventually get a degree but doesn't see the need to consider that unless and until he'd know what major he'd seek. I am proud of their refusal to do "the expected thing" so they can avoid the big debts and woeful career prospects of the current college generation, but yet pursue their passions which don't include having to make big bucks to service student loan debts.

Posted by: FWIW at April 08, 2014 01:08 PM (pRe5G)

185 Nood.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 08, 2014 01:09 PM (cUARf)

186 Can't say that about the electrical engineering department at Purdue.

Posted by: HR at April 08, 2014 05:07 PM (ZKzrr)

Only one at the time that wasn't a military pilot either.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2014 01:09 PM (m2CN7)

187 Obama. Bush. Kerry. Both Clintons.

Out of the six of them, I count 5 incompetent lying sacks of shit.

Very aspirational.

Ryan Braun just hit a homer.

Phew. I was starting to worry about him.

Posted by: HR at April 08, 2014 01:10 PM (ZKzrr)

188 I have friends with compsci degrees from state school that aren't even flagship state schools and I'm willing to be they make more than the vast majority of "Woman's studies" majors from Harvard. And to be honest, they haven't even reached their earning peak yet. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 05:07 PM (HDwDg) _______ Do you know any women's studies grads from Harvard? I do. And they're doing just fine. You know why? Because after the "useless" degree, they went to law school. Or they got a job at a publisher because their roommate's father runs the place. Or they plain don't give a fuck about work because they stand to inherit a fortune from mom and dad and are working at some bullshit job just passing time.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 01:11 PM (0LHZx)

189 When "every kid must college" via reduced admission standards and federal loans became a thing. After the non-scholars get admitted , they have to major in something, and they can't make it in the departments that still have some rigour but they've gotta go somewhere. Posted by: HR at April 08, 2014 05:00 PM (ZKzrr) 'zactly.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at April 08, 2014 01:11 PM (R7Fq5)

190 " Basket Weaving from Harvard > Electrical Engineering from State U. It's the way the world works." No, it doesn't. Getting a degree from Harvard from their school of Education Policy and Management gets you a job as Deputy Head of Admissions at Podunk U. A Law degree from Harvard? Associate at Sullivan and Cromwell. Totally equivalent, right?

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 01:11 PM (hFL/3)

191 In other Higher Education news, the 'Student Athletes Human Rights Project' has filed a complaint with the DOJ Civil Rights Division because...., wait for it...., "the athletes Â– particularly black males Â– were shuttled into classes in the Department of African, African American and Diaspora Studies that never met and only required a term paper at the end of the semester." Black athletes taking imaginary, useless courses. Who knew? Somehow, it seems to me that it is the Caucasians who should be filing discrimination suits, but what do I know? One wonders, also, what tuition was being paid by those athlete scholars. I know, I know...., I'm a raaaaacist for asking these questions. A Micro-Agressor. Article : http://tinyurl.com/poxbkpj

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2014 01:11 PM (aDwsi)

192 Only one at the time that wasn't a military pilot either.

Another good point.

Posted by: HR at April 08, 2014 01:11 PM (ZKzrr)

193 Well I'm glad you all think college is a waste of time. Less competition from your kids when my kids apply. By all means tell them to learn a trade and be satisfied making $60K a year forever. No skin off my nose.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 01:12 PM (0LHZx)

194 197 How many bales of straw died for thar post?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 08, 2014 01:13 PM (ojnk6)

195 It's cute that you think that people who go to trade school max out at 60K. It will also be cute when your kids come home with 80K in loan debt and decide to be stay at home moms or can only find a job at starbucks.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 01:14 PM (hFL/3)

196 I'm still a week behind on Justified. Posted by: Soothsayer has gun, will travel One possibility tonight is that Nick Searcy's Art Mullen dies and then all the Crows end up dead. Detroit too. Ava isn't looking too safe in prison either. This could go a lot of different ways.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 08, 2014 01:14 PM (DEQ2g)

197 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 05:11 PM (0LHZx) Wait we're including Professional schools. Oh well then, pfft, lots of people go to various "unheard of" universities and go on to top tier medical schools (or law schools.) I know more than a few of them. Is a degree from Harvard valuable? Sure, it's valuable. Is it more valuable than it should be? Probably that too. Is it the only degree of value? Hardly. Are there worthless degrees at State U. Yes. None of these statements contradict the others.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 01:15 PM (HDwDg)

198 Well I'm glad you all think college is a waste of time. Less competition from your kids when my kids apply. By all means tell them to learn a trade and be satisfied making $60K a year forever. No skin off my nose.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 05:12 PM (0LHZx)

You must not know what skilled trades pay these days.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2014 01:15 PM (m2CN7)

199 Is money the be-all and end-all with you?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 08, 2014 01:15 PM (oMKp3)

200 No, it doesn't. Getting a degree from Harvard from their school of Education Policy and Management gets you a job as Deputy Head of Admissions at Podunk U. A Law degree from Harvard? Associate at Sullivan and Cromwell. Totally equivalent, right? Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 05:11 PM (hFL/3) ________ You're missing the big picture. A degree - any degree - from Harvard gets you on a fast path to your choice of law school or investment bank or publisher or whatever the fuck you're into. That's the value of a top tier school. I don't see why this is so hard to understand.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 01:15 PM (0LHZx)

201 "My nephew has a biology degree. I don't have a clue what one does with a Biology Degree. "

You go to med school or grad school.

Or you go find some job that has absolutely nothing to do with biology but requires a BS or BA in anything.

Or you sell textbooks/med supplies/ drugs. Although I think some of that is starting to require higher level degrees as well. I have a lot of friends who went in that direction.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 04:57 PM (hFL/3)

Yup. Same thing with a BS in physics. You know just enough to do... uh... zero. Off to the masters with ye!

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 01:16 PM (x3YFz)

202 We can thank the Ivys now for where we are as a nation. Talk about damning with faint praise. Seriously, It's the person and not the school. I would much rather give a job to a marine than some smug asshole from an Ivy. Marines have real, useful skills

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 08, 2014 01:16 PM (32Ze2)

203 Well I'm glad you all think college is a waste of time. Less competition from your kids when my kids apply. By all means tell them to learn a trade and be satisfied making $60K a year forever. No skin off my nose. ---- There is a confusion going on here about what we as a society should be pushing (through governmental action) v. what you as a parent should be pushing. They aren't equivalent. Without governmental interference, the market would work itself out. The mantra that everyone needs college and it is never a waste of time does not help us as a society. But to say to an individual college is a waste of time may not help that individual. There are so many facts and circumstances involved. No planner can account for them.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 01:16 PM (gmeXX)

204 You must not know what skilled trades pay these days. Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2014 05:15 PM (m2CN7) __________ From BLS: Median income for a plumber: $49,140 per year $23.62 per hour WOW!!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 01:17 PM (0LHZx)

205 Median income for electrician: $49,840 per year $23.96 per hour DOUBLE WOW!! You're right. College is a total waste of time.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 01:18 PM (0LHZx)

206 "A degree - any degree - from Harvard gets you on a fast path to your choice of law school or investment bank or publisher or whatever the fuck you're into. " You know that people from state schools go to Harvard Law all the time, right? You know what else gets you a fast path to the law school of your choice? a 179 on your LSAT. If grad school is not your goal, however, your degree in Women's Studies from Yale is no more impressive than Sarah's degree in Women's Studies from Baylor. Your ceiling is still HR director. Yay.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 01:18 PM (hFL/3)

207 My plumber makes more than a lot of people in my neighborhood. Moo Moo you just don't get it. Your elitist attitude wouldn't get past my job interview.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 08, 2014 01:20 PM (32Ze2)

208 HVAC, EE, Plumber.

Period.

People need shit to be flushed and lights to come on and not be in the dark.

It ain't rocket surgery.

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 01:20 PM (x3YFz)

209 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 08, 2014 05:18 PM (0LHZx) BS. Family member is an electrician and makes much more then twice that.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 08, 2014 01:20 PM (oMKp3)

210 Median income for social worker (which requires a masters degree, btw) $44,200 per year $21.25 per hour Double WOW.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2014 01:22 PM (hFL/3)

211 A big chunk of those plumbers are clearing 100k easy, a lot of beginners and others not so much. Just because you're a good plumber doesn't make you a good businessman.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 08, 2014 01:22 PM (ZshNr)

212 College was a waste of time for me except that it provided me with a piece of paper saying I went to college. I would have been better off becoming a fireman like the rest of my family . I would have been retired already and had a business on the side while I was employed as a fireman. Instead I'm stuck at a desk at a mid level management position corresponding with my fake internet friends.

Posted by: polynikes at April 08, 2014 01:22 PM (m2CN7)

213 Moo moo - no disrespect intended, but do you have any clue about: * how many incompetent Ivy grads there have been in the past 20 years? * how many so-called top school grads have six figure debts and no good jobs or hopes of jobs that would ever pay enough to service their debt loads? * how many good kids from conservative homes go to Ivies and become Leftists? * how many Ivy grads are snobs who think Obama hung the moon? Give me a 3.5 GPA grad from State U with no debt and some quality character and a degree in something useful any day over most any Ivy grad with any major.

Posted by: FWIW at April 08, 2014 01:22 PM (pRe5G)

214 You should see what he pulls in on an overtime weekend.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 08, 2014 01:22 PM (oMKp3)

215 You're right. College is a total waste of time. ---- For many college is a waste of time. For others it is not. Has anyone said differently? The reason is that it is typically the person. Many will be successful with or without college degrees. For many college will make no difference whatsoever. College may give them a chance at higher incomes, but when you factor the direct cost of college and opportunity cost of early work years, it may simply be a push. There are just too many factors involved. If you think it is better for an individual or your kids to go to college, great, they can pay for it. But I don't want to collectively pay for it under some notion that everyone should go to college.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 01:22 PM (gmeXX)

216 Yup. Same thing with a BS in physics. You know just enough to do... uh... zero. Off to the masters with ye! Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 05:16 PM (x3YFz) ?! My wife was offered a job right out of Undergrad for a Medical Physicist. Paid stupid well too. She turned it down because she wanted a Masters (thought she was going to get a PhD after that, decided not to.) She probably makes less now (but has more upward mobility.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 01:24 PM (HDwDg)

217 The point is that college isn't for everyone. And that there are alot of bullshit degrees that cost a lot of money. Someone's being obtuse. And yes very elitist.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2014 01:25 PM (GXZgZ)

218 106. The disparate impact theory of Griggs has now run amok on steroids under Obama. Current favorite is the EEOC rule to prohibit excluding felons from employment. The theory goes that a disproportionate percentage of the "felon" protected class are blacks and Hispanics. Thus, using felon status to exclude from employment has a disparate impact on blacks and hispanics. Never mind that it is a government action -- successful felony prosecution -- that created the protected status in the first place.

Posted by: Yepperz at April 08, 2014 01:27 PM (Xv7f/)

219 Who, as a business owner, wants to hire the college kid who thinks he already knows everything.... because he went to an Ivy. Not me. The Smug is strong Moo Moo

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 08, 2014 01:27 PM (32Ze2)

220 If I have a bright kid that has an opportunity to go to Harvard, I'll probably pay for it. If I have a bright kid that wants to go to state school and become an engineer (or even study economics) I'll probably pay for it. If I have a not-so-bright kid but he works hard and really wants to go to college to get a degree to get ahead, I'll probably pay for it. Now if I have a bright kid who wants to go to college to goof off and get a useless degree, I'll probably tell him he is on his own and try to steer him differently. Everyone's situation is different. What I don't expect is for the government to subsidize it (though I'll admit I took out subsidized loans). But I was going without those loans or not.

Posted by: SH at April 08, 2014 01:27 PM (gmeXX)

221 I'm getting a T. Coddington VanVoorhees vibe here.

Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2014 01:28 PM (GXZgZ)

222 183 You don't. http://stream-tv.me/watch-silicon-valley-online/

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2014 01:30 PM (bitz6)

223 I walked face first into a $97K job. Did it for 7 years. Quit. But the contract was coming to a close so it wasn't a big deal.

Staff sergeant. Masters degree. No connections. Everyone else hired there was an officer or had hands-on experience with the (classified) widgets. Me? Nope. Just a solid systems engineer. I make things marry up, and I'm exceptional at it. Square peg, round hole? I'll make it work. Pretty badass at it, actually.

Went on to teach at a univ for pennies, just for the joy of it. Dept chair and I had differences, and he didn't pay me enough to keep me.

Now? I'm probably going to end up reading blueprints for construction.

Life is a wild ride, aint it?

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 01:30 PM (x3YFz)

224 You're missing the big picture. A degree - any degree - from Harvard gets you on a fast path to your choice of law school or investment bank or publisher or whatever the fuck you're into. That's the value of a top tier school. I don't see why this is so hard to understand. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo ----------------------- Which precisely explains the contempt for those who inherently value such. It is vapid. It is the triumph of vacuity over substance. I am sure that it seems strange to you that some people (suckers!) actually engage a moral/philosophical standard that transcends social gamesmanship. I am also thinking that you are not going to relate any stories regarding your struggle to achieve success. Those who have actually had to make it on their own are generally not the sort of pompous asses that crow about their circumstances.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 08, 2014 01:31 PM (aDwsi)

225 Life is a wild ride, aint it? Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 05:30 PM (x3YFz) Word! (Says the guy whose wrangled rats to cure diseases, took a moral stand and got screwed over it, and now is likely to be doing part time retail for a while.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 01:34 PM (HDwDg)

226 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 05:34 PM (HDwDg) Never underestimate your potential for making a significant contribution to the world. The Apostle Paul made tents for a living.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 08, 2014 01:38 PM (oMKp3)

227 Posted by: grammie winger at April 08, 2014 05:38 PM (oMKp3) Post conversion, Paul was a far better man than me. (I'd like to think I narrowly beat out pre-conversion Paul, just by virtue of the fact I haven't persecuted anyone.) God has a plan, I just wish he'd hurry up and show me what it is.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 01:40 PM (HDwDg)

228 Word!
(Says the guy whose wrangled rats to cure diseases, took a moral stand and got screwed over it, and now is likely to be doing part time retail for a while.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 05:34 PM (HDwDg)

hey. You pick the fight, no one can take it away from you.

OODA: Observe Orient Determine Act.

Rinse, repeat.

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 01:43 PM (x3YFz)

229 God has a plan, I just wish he'd hurry up and show me what it is. Moses was 80 when he got his instructions. Hope it goes faster with you.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 08, 2014 01:44 PM (oMKp3)

230
God has a plan, I just wish he'd hurry up and show me what it is.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 05:40 PM (HDwDg)

silly bear.

He did. It's faith. Steadfast in the storm faith. Holy shit it's coming at me faith.

It's just that simple.

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 01:45 PM (x3YFz)

231 Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 05:43 PM (x3YFz) In fairness, I left the mouse (sorry not rat, I'm tired) work voluntarily. Part II of that was unrelated of sorts. It's OK. I made my point, they rejected it. They are still floundering trying to figure out their next steps in the process. I'm laughing. The one benefit I have over Cassandra I suppose, I have a sense of humor about it all

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 01:45 PM (HDwDg)

232 Perhaps His plan is for you to become an FBI informant/race rabbler!

Posted by: Rev. Al at April 08, 2014 01:46 PM (hFL/3)

233 Posted by: Rev. Al at April 08, 2014 05:46 PM (hFL/3) I've learned two things from you Rev. Al. One: Lying cheating and race bating pays well. Also it's apparently an excellent diet regiment.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 01:47 PM (HDwDg)

234 yeah... anyone else notice that Al has lost like 80lbs in the last year?

My inner voice says it's not due to his workouts.

Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 01:51 PM (x3YFz)

235 Posted by: tangonine at April 08, 2014 05:51 PM (x3YFz Coke does that, does it not? Obviously there are other thoughts, but this article seems to imply he's likes the Coke.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 08, 2014 01:53 PM (HDwDg)

236 (I assume Thiel has to first approve of your dream before you get the money. So, you know, don't just quit college and then show up at his door with your hand out.) OTOH if you're the sort to quit college hoping a rich guy will give you $100,000 for free... you're probably not going to get anything from college either. Quitting won't hurt you. Maybe a trade school? Or find a loan to get a septic tank cleaning truck... those guys make bank in areas with septic tanks (and for a damn good reason).

Posted by: gekkobear at April 08, 2014 02:06 PM (2zHxV)

237 To be fair in this argument, my college tuition was subsidized.. 100% scholarship ride for tuition. Just had to cover room & board for 4 years and keep my 3.5+ GPA to keep it all. I graduated with my GPA dropping to 3.49 my last semester after funding was secured. Lowest "Cum Laude" GPA my college had ever graduated, as they calculate that before the last semester. And they changed the rules so nobody without a minimum 3.5 cumulative can ever graduate with Cum Laude again. Not really something to be proud of as such; but it's still my legacy there.

Posted by: gekkobear at April 08, 2014 02:13 PM (2zHxV)

238 Sorry, just checking to see if I can still post.

Posted by: Mr. alu Fods: Semi-Pro Lurker at April 08, 2014 03:35 PM (dVk8Y)

239 I'd watch it.

Posted by: Corona at April 08, 2014 05:39 PM (fh2Y7)

240 Yay! I am gratified by this development.

Posted by: Pastorius at April 08, 2014 06:09 PM (gMAUH)

241 NIP-Alert

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 08, 2014 08:23 PM (e8kgV)

242 Perhaps the rumpled old hippie in the audience is a reference to Richard Stallman, founder of GNU and the Free Software Foundation.

Posted by: jBroen at April 09, 2014 12:51 PM (J+0tc)

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