April 05, 2014

Saturday Car Thread 04/05/14 - [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse & Countrysquire]
— Open Blogger

Welcome to the short and sweet edition of the Saturday car thread.

Thanks to the Morons and Moronettes who forward along the fine tips which make it possible.


First up this week, the UAW is still squawking about Chattanooga. The charge: Collusion between Gov. Bill Haslam, Sen. Bob Corker and VW to the tune of $300M in incentives if the plant did not unionize. A couple of thoughts here:

1. Such an offer might explain the differences of opinion which arose between Corker's office and VW with regard to discussions of potential plant expansion. Then again, it is not unusual for any state or locality to offer incentives to get, or to keep, a large jobs-creating company or industry. Aren't conditions a normal part of the incentive/negotiations process?

2. The argument that VW colluded with government officials against the UAW seems a little shaky given the preferential treatment that the union received from VW in their attempts to unionize the plant: access to employees and to the plant as well as support for unionization from the big European unions and, even, VW's own management.

3. I am not an attorney nor am I associated with a union, so I welcome the opinions of those who are and can shed light on the situation yet, as far as I can tell, nobody has alleged that the offer of incentives was communicated to the laborers, and it is the laborers who cast the votes. In fact, VW adamantly denied that there had been any discussions of plant or line expansions when Sen. Corker claimed there had been. Unless the laborers themselves were aware of and persuaded by a big corporate incentive to vote against their own best interests, I can't see how such an offer would be deemed as having influenced the vote.

4. Hey UAW and TN Dems, your desperation is unzipped. You've got it hanging out there for all to see. When so many in the nation are not just indifferent to you, but against you, you might have a problem, and PR is the least of it. The longer you cry and whine and point fingers at the big, bad Republicans the whinier and weaker you appear but, go ahead, spend every last dime you have fighting this fight. Empty your coffers now. Please. Money buys influence with the Dems and I'd love nothing so much as to see you rendered powerless re the 2014 and 2016 elections.


The true story of a classic car found hidden away in a Centre Hall, PA, garage. We're always hearing tales of someone who knew someone who knew someone who found a barely used, highly collectible car sitting in an old barn/garage somewhere, and a little old lady who had no idea of it's value. This is not that tale. And it seems that there's no shortage of skeptics eager to try and debunk the find.

What a beauty.

Thanks to all the other commenters who brought it to my attention.


Moronette Anna Puma sent along this neat little piece called 'Unconventional Heroes'. I can't imagine where the artist came up with this idea but the General Lee made me giggle.


This delightful video is courtesy of Peaches and is guaranteed to make you smile.


The beauty of the week:

The first time that I saw the 1929 Stutz Model M Lancefield Coupe, I thought that it must be the work of a high-end hotrod builder like Chip Foose or Troy Trepanier. It looked like the classiest Â’32 three window Ford in the world, but somewhat bigger. A chopped top, rows of louvers, no running boards, and a bad ass stance. In other words, all the elements of a traditional hotrod are there. The thing is, this ainÂ’t no hotrodded version of some common car. This is the way it rolled out in 1929. This is the blueprint for every early Ford V8 rod that someone has cobbled together in the last 75 years. Quite an amazing design feat to say the least.


For the Moronettes:


And for the Morons:


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1 First?

Posted by: GilaGuy who lurks at April 05, 2014 09:27 AM (b96D1)

2 Will anyone sue the federal government for securities fraud in response to GM's failure to disclose the cobalt ignition problem...

Posted by: Breitbart was here at April 05, 2014 09:28 AM (kFxpe)

3 I wish so, but imagine not.

Posted by: GilaGuy who lurks at April 05, 2014 09:29 AM (b96D1)

4 I'd like to split that chick on the Split-Window.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:29 AM (podBk)

5 I guess I need to win the Powerball tonight so I can bid on the 69 GT500.  Doubt would bid on the van with the shag carpet, even though it is a super low mile vehicle.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 09:31 AM (I6YUj)

6 I haven't paid that much attention to the VW union vote story, but why would VW's management support the union? Is this some kind of eleven-dimensional chess playing?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 05, 2014 09:32 AM (8ZskC)

7 I guess I need to win the Powerball tonight so I can bid on the 69 GT500. Why? It's one of the ugliest pieces of shit Shelby ever put his name on. They were never raced. Really, they aren't any different than an 80s Dodge 'Shelby'.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:34 AM (podBk)

8 Garret, to be book ends with my 08 GT500.

Silly wabbit.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 09:35 AM (I6YUj)

9 Why? It's one of the ugliest pieces of shit Shelby ever put his name on.

They were never raced. Really, they aren't any different than an 80s Dodge 'Shelby'.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 01:34 PM (podBk)




The 80's Shelby Omnis and Chargers were faster than the Camaros, Firebirds and Mustangs of the day, FWIW.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 05, 2014 09:37 AM (yh0zB)

10 Why? It's one of the ugliest pieces of shit Shelby ever put his name on. They were never raced. Really, they aren't any different than an 80s Dodge 'Shelby'. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I wouldn't go quite that far. They are Mach 1s with some fiberglass body panels and a roll bar. I've had a couple and liked them, but they are nothing special to drive.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 09:37 AM (8FyP4)

11 You have better taste in cars than that, anna. You need a 65-66 GT350. Maybe a Hertz car. If you can find a 4 spd.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:38 AM (podBk)

12 They were never raced. Really, they aren't any different than an 80s Dodge 'Shelby'. What? The next thing you'll be telling me is that the Chrysler TC by Maserati wasn't a real Maserati.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 05, 2014 09:38 AM (8ZskC)

13 Speaking of Split Window VW Type 2s.  I think this person is a bit greedy.  1966 21 window.  Only want $85,000 for it.  Yikes!

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1615573

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 09:39 AM (I6YUj)

14 The only 69 I would want is a Boss.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:39 AM (podBk)

15
   Had a short visit with the Toy this AM.  Way too early to bring it out so I just walked around it and sat in it.

   This year will bring a cosmetic resto on the Ramcharger, it's beginning to show some age finally.

  If younger daughter ever gets a newer computer, then maybe I can put some pics up of my stuff when I buy hers.  This 'puter is so old  and lacking in features that it aint funny.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 05, 2014 09:40 AM (SAMxH)

16 The other day I followed a guy and his family driving an entire collection of early-mid 80s Mercurys through the valley. XR4s Galore.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:41 AM (podBk)

17 Garret, you almost sound like the government.  Only a Volt is what you need comrade. 

Next you will be telling me why I don't need a firearm.  Might put my eye out or some other kind of balderdash. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 09:42 AM (I6YUj)

18 In my mind, the '65s and first 252 '66s, which were left over '65s, are the only Shelbys which were truly special cars. Bare bones race cars for the street, which is why they didn't sell nearly as well as the later cars.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 09:42 AM (8FyP4)

19 I haven't paid that much attention to the VW union vote story, but why would VW's management support the union? Is this some kind of eleven-dimensional chess playing? *** In Germany, some management is also part of the union or, as they call it, the "works council". They are dancing a jig here in the US in order to maintain a semblance peace with the German union, IG Metall. They are between a rock and a hard place, it seems. http://bit.ly/1q51XoZ

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2014 09:42 AM (DmNpO)

20 Speaking of Split Window VW Type 2s. I think mine might be coming home, finally. My ex called me last year to ask if I would give her a home.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:42 AM (podBk)

21 In my mind, the '65s and first 252 '66s, which were left over '65s, are the only Shelby Mustangs s which were truly special cars.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:43 AM (podBk)

22 I saw the story about that GT found gathering dust in a garage with only 8K original miles.  It made my mouth water.  But hell, I couldn't afford the insurance on it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 05, 2014 09:44 AM (T2V/1)

23 As for the UAW and Chattanooga, if you believe anything those lying jackasses say you are on a different planet.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 05, 2014 09:45 AM (T2V/1)

24 I believe that Stutz is a Weymann fabric body car. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weymann_Fabric_Bodies

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 05, 2014 09:46 AM (l3vZN)

25 The Omni GLHS was quite the laugh, not the least reason being Chrysler actually sold a car whose official acronym was "Goes Like Hell." It was still such a shit car, though, cheap materials, uncomfortable seats and driving position, crappy controls. It was just stupid quick. It's too bad the Daytona died ugly (I think that last remake for the last couple of years was really bland) and the replacement just didn't have any real potential (though it looked okay, the first gen Avenger did).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 05, 2014 09:46 AM (qyfb5)

26 Vic, why do you think I said win the Powerball. 

Since I doubt I could pen and publish a best selling novel that quickly, but hey miracles can happen.

And April 13th is the Pomona Swap Meet.
http://www.pomonaswapmeet.com/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 09:47 AM (I6YUj)

27 6 I haven't paid that much attention to the VW union vote story, but why would VW's management support the union? Is this some kind of eleven-dimensional chess playing?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 05, 2014 01:32 PM (8ZskC)



The home company in Germany is big on unions.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 05, 2014 09:47 AM (T2V/1)

28 Actually Vic, insurance for collector cars is very cheap. I just added my 'new' '55 T-Bird to my policy and it was only $200 a year for $35,000 agreed coverage.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 09:47 AM (8FyP4)

29 Speaking of Split Window VW Type 2s. I think this person is a bit greedy. 1966 21 window. Only want $85,000 for it. Yikes! I sold my '65 in early 1973 for around 500 bucks!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 05, 2014 09:48 AM (l3vZN)

30 6 I haven't paid that much attention to the VW union vote story, but why would VW's management support the union? Is this some kind of eleven-dimensional chess playing? Krautishness. The "Workers' Council" has a big say in running German corporations. It's VW in Wolfsburg pushing this to appease their unions, not VW USA. Also, commies.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 05, 2014 09:48 AM (1xUj/)

31 One of my neighbors had one of those 80s Chrysler Shelbies.  It was a POS. It stayed broke all the time and I could outrun it with a bicycle. .

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 05, 2014 09:51 AM (T2V/1)

32
   True dat, Mero.  Drove a couple GLHs and all you did was point them and pull the trigger.

    Fun to abuse, though.

    I remember driving the 1st edition 5.0 Mustangs, too. Mostly sideways.   It took some work to get them to put the power down without excess wheel spin--do that and they were/are squirrel quick.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 05, 2014 09:51 AM (SAMxH)

33 sold my '65 in early 1973 for around 500 bucks! Bought mine in 1991 for $500. Used to ride past it on my way to school and always said I'd buy it if it ever went up for sale. Had to borrow 4 wheels from a friend and then push it 3 miles to get it home. Had it running in under 4 hours once I got some minor repairs and a tune-up done. Threw new tires on and drove it around the country for the next 5 years while I restored her. Love that damn van.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:51 AM (podBk)

34 I believe that Stutz is a Weymann fabric body car. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weymann_Fabric_Bodies Posted by: Jinx the Cat ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Some might have been, but the one that I got to see a couple years ago was steel.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 09:52 AM (8FyP4)

35 Or perhaps aluminum, but it was metal.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 09:53 AM (8FyP4)

36 I remember driving the 1st edition 5.0 Mustangs, too An 83 GT Convertible was my first car. It was pretty damned quick if you could keep the rear where it was supposed to be.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 09:56 AM (podBk)

37 What I remember about the '80s Chrysler cars was that they all had a very unique odor inside of them when they were new. I guess it was off-gassing from the plastic, but there was no mistaking it.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 09:58 AM (8FyP4)

38 My best Barn Find. I had a bunch of Indians and Harleys starting in 1968; mostly Indians at first. Just buy something and build a bike to ride, no full blown dresser restorations. I was building bobbers but nobody was calling them that back then. Anywho someone I knew told me about an old Indian police bike and I bought it. Turned out to be a 1930 Indian inline four cylinder Police Special, complete in every detail including the siren, locking speedo to display the perp's speed and all the Harrison County Mississippi livery. Apparently the only one in existence. It's in a meseum in Vegas now. Or at least it was. Been a while.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 05, 2014 09:58 AM (Jk2Qg)

39 Re Chattanooga... Someone was looking to avoid a slow spiral down into bankruptcy? How about that.

Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at April 05, 2014 10:00 AM (1Y+hH)

40
Is it me or does the VW bus chick look suspiciously like Megyn Kelly under those mirrored shades?

brb

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 05, 2014 10:01 AM (c2oll)

41 Inline longitudinally like an Excelsior? I would love to see that bike. I keep saying that one day I will restore an old Indian, but it has never happened. Don't know much about them, but know that I want one!

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 10:02 AM (8FyP4)

42 Megyn looks good. Real good. But. Not that good.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 10:02 AM (podBk)

43 I guess it was off-gassing from the plastic, but there was no mistaking it.
Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 01:58 PM
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It was the dog.

Posted by: The Plastic at April 05, 2014 10:03 AM (uW5nO)

44 In Russia, union must approve you.

Posted by: Local 666 at April 05, 2014 10:04 AM (1Y+hH)

45 Countrysquire, inline four vertical, fore and aft orientation.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 05, 2014 10:05 AM (Jk2Qg)

46 "I guess it was off-gassing from the plastic, but there was no mistaking it." Smoldering wiring. Chrysler has always been famous for electrical problems.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 05, 2014 10:06 AM (1Y+hH)

47 Yeah, that's what I meant.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 10:07 AM (8FyP4)

48 "For the Moronettes:"

"For the Morons:"

----

What about 'Other'?  (Or is this an 'Other-phobic' site?)

Posted by: gastorgrab at April 05, 2014 10:07 AM (FX38i)

49 Here we go Ford Mustang meets VW Karmann Ghia.  Caption this.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1190246.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 10:08 AM (I6YUj)

50 P.S. - Make it something weeeeeird!

Posted by: gastorgrab at April 05, 2014 10:08 AM (FX38i)

51 Other... ( * )

Posted by: Meremortal at April 05, 2014 10:09 AM (1Y+hH)

52 Anna, what the hell is going on there?

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 10:09 AM (8FyP4)

53 "For the Moronettes:" "For the Morons:" +++++++++++++++++++++++++ NDH likes to promote the rape culture.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 10:11 AM (8FyP4)

54 CountrySquire, from the Ford Motor Company page on FB.

That is one of the behind the scene pictures of Operation Mustang.  When Ford put a 1966 Mustang up on the Empire State building's observation deck on the 86th floor.  They had to take the car apart to fit in elevators.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 10:16 AM (I6YUj)

55 One of my neighbors had one of those 80s Chrysler Shelbies. It was a POS. It stayed broke all the time and I could outrun it with a bicycle. . Posted by: Vic at April 05, 2014 01:51 PM (T2V/1) In the 80s a lot of new regs had been laid on the auto industry and the technology for performance under those regs hadn't caught up yet. Even Vettes were wimpy, and that's unpardonable.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 05, 2014 10:17 AM (1Y+hH)

56 My roommate in college had a grandmother who died and left him a '67 Oldsmobile with 11k miles on it. This was in the mid 90s. I don't know what the value was, but the thing was huge. And it took leaded gas so he carried around some lead in the trunk and added lead with each fill up. No idea if that was fucking up the engine or not. Funniest thing was him trying to parallel park the beast. Good times.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2014 10:18 AM (0LHZx)

57 Cool. I figured they were Ford guys because of the hats they were wearing, but couldn't figure out what they were doing. Looked like a scene from some '60s body shop.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 05, 2014 10:19 AM (8FyP4)

58 Here's my car story for the day:

Out and about here in the SF Bay Area the other day, I came up behind a car which had a couple of Obama bumper stickers on it. One of them bearing Biden's taunting quote from the 2012 campaign:

"Bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive!"

On a Honda.

It's a weird cocktail of bluster, cognitive dissonance and Fen's Law.

On the one hand, liberals point to the survival (for now) of Government Motors as being a proud Obamanomic success story. On the other hand, they personally _would not be seen dead_ in a GM car. So declasse!

Those are driven by flyover unpeople in Jesusland, not by them personally.

They won't even buy and drive the Chevy Volt. There are huge numbers of Priuses and Teslas around here, so they get the concept. They're just not going to plunk down their own money on the GM implementation of that concept. Fine with spending fifty billion of everyone else's money to rescue GM, though.

Liberals. Go figure.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 05, 2014 10:19 AM (noWW6)

59 "Those are driven by flyover unpeople in Jesusland, not by them personally." Cob people?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 05, 2014 10:26 AM (7clvp)

60 NDH likes to promote the rape culture. *** I blame the patriarchy

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2014 10:33 AM (DmNpO)

61 1968 Ford Galaxy 500 Bought if for $300 in 1985 from a little old lady who only drove it to church. A boat that got about 15 miles a gallon, but that was back it was a buck a gallon. Could fit 7 guys and couple of cases a beer in it easy. The AM radio still worked. Great times.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 05, 2014 10:35 AM (2nWQ3)

62 That VW Hippie Bus looks like it might need a wash, Cool Hand Luke style

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 10:37 AM (aTXUx)

63 1968 Ford Galaxy 500 My girl is a 64 XL500. I would love to get 15 a gallon.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 10:38 AM (podBk)

64 I caught this in the Hardees parking lot a couple of weeks ago. http://t.co/kFpknfERXF

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2014 10:39 AM (DmNpO)

65 I caught this in the Hardees parking lot a couple of weeks ago. A course of Penicillin should clear that up.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 10:40 AM (podBk)

66 The UAW crying about collusion between an auto making entity and government? That's rich. BTW, UAW, "between Haslam and VW?" We were told corporations aren't people...

Posted by: BuddyPC at April 05, 2014 10:42 AM (jfUIE)

67 That Shelby Mustang isn't a 69, it's a 70 The 69 Mustang had 4 headlights with the two outside lights offset and outside the grille The 70 which is in that video has the scoop style grill similar to the Dodge Charger and with two recessed headlights http://tinyurl.com/n84nvr8

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 10:42 AM (aTXUx)

68 VW seems to think that the UAW is just like the German unions which actually have work councils with management in order to make better use of the labor to make a better car. Efficiency and quality is anathema to the UAW, whose only goal is to create more dues payers. German plants have one other advantage. Most of their lower skilled assembly line functions are automated. Robots don't take 3 hour lunch breaks and come back drunk or stop the line because the UAW slug whose supposed to fetch the parts from the bins fell asleep in the shitter.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 10:48 AM (aTXUx)

69 I caught this in the Hardees parking lot a couple of weeks ago>> Looks like a 1962 Ford Falcon. http://tinyurl.com/mfulfrq

Posted by: The Hickster at April 05, 2014 10:49 AM (TI3xG)

70 BTW, the model is SI's/VS's Marissa Miller and she does kinda look like Megyn Kelly here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2014 10:50 AM (DmNpO)

71 Looks like a 1962 Ford Falcon. *** I'm terrible at idenifying a car by the year but it caught my eye. The crappy Iphone photo doesn't do justice to how nice it looked. The paint was like a mirror but in the photo it looks dull. My mom had a red Falcon at one point. She loved that car.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2014 10:52 AM (DmNpO)

72 65 I caught this in the Hardees parking lot a couple of weeks ago.  A course of Penicillin should clear that up. Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 02:40 PM (podBk) ------------ Before I even looked at the pic I LOL'd... my first thought was Hardee's parking lot not far from home - maybe 100ft from "Big Charlie's Truck Stop" just before you hit the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel - infamous for very nasty lot lizards.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 10:52 AM (LBrhR)

73 64 I caught this in the Hardees parking lot a couple of weeks ago. http://t.co/kFpknfERXF Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2014 02:39 PM (DmNpO) 1st generation Falcons made for fantastic sleeper street racers. They could easily fit a 289 under it and were very lightweight. The 1st generation Mustangs were built on the same chassis as the Falcons. Other than the sheetmetal, Mustang and Falcon parts were interchangeable

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 10:53 AM (aTXUx)

74 Looking at the nose and grille of that Falcon, it's a 63

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 10:55 AM (aTXUx)

75 It's not like our union is a bunch of weasels.

Posted by: Seamus M. United Otter Workers local #555 at April 05, 2014 10:57 AM (g4TxM)

76 How in the world do you have a car from the 1960s that hasn't been totally consumed by rust? I have a 1991 Toyota. Best car I've ever owned. It runs great and everything works, but the body is rotting away. My mechanic has bent over backwards to patch it up enough to pass inspection the last two years, but he pretty much told me it won't pass next time and I need to look for a new(er) car.

Posted by: rickl at April 05, 2014 10:57 AM (sdi6R)

77 How in the world do you have a car from the 1960s that hasn't been totally consumed by rust?

Cosmoline?

Posted by: pep at April 05, 2014 11:00 AM (4nR9/)

78 Looking at the nose and grille of that Falcon, it's a 63 >> 62 had vertical grill grates 63 had horizontal.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 05, 2014 11:01 AM (TI3xG)

79 How in the world do you have a car from the 1960s that hasn't been totally consumed by rust? I have a 1991 Toyota. Best car I've ever owned. It runs great and everything works, but the body is rotting away. My mechanic has bent over backwards to patch it up enough to pass inspection the last two years, but he pretty much told me it won't pass next time and I need to look for a new(er) car. *** My 70's VW Beetle had a back floorboard so rusted through that I lost a show through it once. My personal experience with good, reasonably priced cars is this: I've owned many used cars but, far and away, the best, most reliable ever was a 2003 Mitsubishi Galant. I bought it with 13k miles on it in 2005 and my daughter still drives it today.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2014 11:02 AM (DmNpO)

80 Okay if I win the Powerball, dragging kbdabear with me to inspect this one owner GT-500... 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 11:02 AM (I6YUj)

81 Posted by: torquewrench at April 05, 2014 02:19 PM (noWW6) _________ I don't know how many times I've see some type of environmentally themed bumper sticker on the back of an Escalade or similar 12 MPG SUV.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2014 11:09 AM (0LHZx)

82 Nice pic of a Lotus Elise http://tinyurl.com/kmyfbk3

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 11:10 AM (aTXUx)

83 A blonde and a Hummer http://tinyurl.com/osmu3c5

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 11:12 AM (aTXUx)

84 A blonde and a Hummer >> I'm gonna guess you didn't come by that photo using the above as the search words.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 05, 2014 11:15 AM (TI3xG)

85 A blonde and a Hummer >> I'm gonna guess you didn't come by that photo using the above as the search words. *** He found her using the words "blonde giving a hummer"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2014 11:16 AM (DmNpO)

86 He found her using the words "blonde giving a hummer" Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 05, 2014 03:16 PM (DmNpO) I respect wymyn and don't objectify them with rape culture search words I googled "car show babes" and "cars and boobs"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 11:18 AM (aTXUx)

87 Samuel L. Jackson leaps out of kbdabear's browser, "What's in your search cache!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 11:19 AM (I6YUj)

88 87 Samuel L. Jackson leaps out of kbdabear's browser, "What's in your search cache!" Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 03:19 PM (I6YUj) I am sick and tired of all the motherfuckin' snakes in my cache!

Posted by: Samuel L Jackson at April 05, 2014 11:23 AM (aTXUx)

89 77 How in the world do you have a car from the 1960s that hasn't been totally consumed by rust? ---------- For one thing, sheet metal back then was probably 2x the thickness of modern body panels. And it wasn't made in China. My Riviera has less rust than me, & it's older than I am. I just got rid of a 1960 Cadillac with zero rust. I guess garages help...

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 11:28 AM (LBrhR)

90 I am sick and tired of all the motherfuckin' snakes in my cache!

Then stay away from herpetological porn.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 05, 2014 11:29 AM (0AKks)

91 What is everyone listening to these days? I've been through my Lyle Lovett, Johnny Cash, SRV, Adele, & Joe Jackson binges lately - any ideas? It's beautiful outside, & I want to keep the music going while I'm out here...

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 11:34 AM (LBrhR)

92 56 My roommate in college had a grandmother who died and left him a '67 Oldsmobile with 11k miles on it. This was in the mid 90s. I don't know what the value was, but the thing was huge. Funniest thing was him trying to parallel park the beast. Good times. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 05, 2014 02:18 PM (0LHZx) A 67 Olds was a beast to drive at night too. I loved the huge back seat but my main complaint was that a 67 Olds leaked like a bitch when it got wet

Posted by: zombie Ted Kennedy at April 05, 2014 11:35 AM (aTXUx)

93 The Official Car of Moron Nation http://liberg.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/mini.jpg

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 11:37 AM (aTXUx)

94 It's beautiful outside, & I want to keep the music going while I'm out here... Pretenders? Replacements? or The Vapors first LP?

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 11:38 AM (yhZN5)

95 The Official Car of Moron Nation

Nice headlights.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 05, 2014 11:38 AM (0AKks)

96 Nice 'ergonomic' hood on that Mini....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 11:39 AM (I6YUj)

97
  Back in the day, if you wanted a rust free ride, you went to a dealer and at the end of the back lot bought a clapped out piece of shit and ran it through the winter.

   Left the good car in the garage.  Now, the winter beater costs almost as much as the primary ride.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 05, 2014 11:40 AM (SAMxH)

98 Speaking of automotive paint jobs, SFW: http://tinypic.com/m/i26r8l/1

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 05, 2014 11:40 AM (aDwsi)

99 And depending on what model Olds it was, maybe a badass sleeper. The Toronado was a sweet ride, and stands out as the first front wheel drive car made since the Cord in the 30's. (Actually, the '66, but they're basically the same car - share a chassis with my Riv)

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 11:41 AM (LBrhR)

100 1st generation Falcons made for fantastic sleeper street racers. They could easily fit a 289 under it and were very lightweight. Always wanted that Sprint Convertible from Summer School.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 11:41 AM (yhZN5)

101 I am rocking Bauhaus this afternoon.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 11:42 AM (yhZN5)

102 A moronette running errands in the car. http://tinyurl.com/lfaqadt

Posted by: The Hickster at April 05, 2014 11:43 AM (TI3xG)

103 And depending on what model Olds it was, maybe a badass sleeper. --------------------- * ponders unfinished Cutlass project in the garage *

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 05, 2014 11:44 AM (aDwsi)

104 Replacements - good choice...

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 11:45 AM (LBrhR)

105 Speaking of automotive paint jobs, SFW: >> Here is another cool SFW paint-job along those lines. http://www.4nsi.com/x-ray-equipment-service/

Posted by: The Hickster at April 05, 2014 11:51 AM (TI3xG)

106 Anyone remember this classic album cover by The Cars? http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/files/2011/08/Candy-O.jpeg

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 12:02 PM (aTXUx)

107 102 A moronette running errands in the car. http://tinyurl.com/lfaqadt Posted by: The Hickster at April 05, 2014 03:43 PM (TI3xG) Nice. I'm of the opinion that the 'ettes don't fall into the stereotype of female drivers. Unless I'm provided evidence to the contrary that's my take on it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 05, 2014 12:07 PM (oFCZn)

108 Anyone else having probs getting on Breitbart???

Posted by: MAx at April 05, 2014 12:09 PM (b7yum)

109 108, yes

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 05, 2014 12:11 PM (V70Uh)

110 108 same here.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 05, 2014 12:13 PM (TI3xG)

111 Mazda recall. Guess why. tinyurl.com/kwsfnsa

Posted by: recalls_R_us at April 05, 2014 12:13 PM (IQI2h)

112 108?

Having all sorts of connective problems. I suspect it's Comcast. Yes, I know they are evil but it's all we've got here. It is fast- when it runs properly

Posted by: backhoe at April 05, 2014 12:16 PM (ULH4o)

113 111 Mazda recall.  Guess why.  -------- The CEO came out in favor of the traditional definition of marriage?

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 12:16 PM (LBrhR)

114 111 Mazda recall. Guess why. tinyurl.com/kwsfnsa Posted by: recalls_R_us at April 05, 2014 04:13 PM (IQI2h) If AtC has a Mazda, she's going to need therapy after that news

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 12:16 PM (aTXUx)

115 Anyone remember the car on the "For Ladies Only" Steppenwolf album cover? http://tinyurl.com/ltytwln

Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 12:19 PM (aTXUx)

116 108. Yep, several days now. But from the Daily Caller story about Breitbart News asshats screwing the Texas Tea Party, I don't think I'll be bothering to look for Breitbart "reports" anymore. Andrew's rolling over in his grave, his legacy gone to rot already. Kurt Bardella, a spokesman for Breitbart News, did not respond to a request for comment Wednesday. Steve Bannon, executive chairman of Breitbart News, did not respond to a request for comment Thursday. Dan Fleuette did not respond to a request for comment Thursday. Bob Price, who covered the rally for Breitbart, also did not respond to a request for comment Thursday. http://tinyurl.com/ltm8h9z

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 05, 2014 12:21 PM (/vO0r)

117 O.T. Just thought it was amusing: Obamacare web designers branch out to other products: http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=231143

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 05, 2014 12:21 PM (XyM/Y)

118 I can't stop looking at that Shelby


also at the ladyparts  of the chica


conflicted, I am

Posted by: Jules ( counting down from zero ) at April 05, 2014 12:24 PM (JyjXt)

119 111 Mazda recall. Guess why. tinyurl.com/kwsfnsa Posted by: recalls_R_us at April 05, 2014 04:13 PM (IQI2h) I heard that on the radio last night. I was like, WTF???

Posted by: rickl at April 05, 2014 12:25 PM (sdi6R)

120 A neighbor drives a gold AMC Gremlin. 'Time' rates it one of the 50 worst cars evah. But it gets him about town without a hitch.

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 05, 2014 12:25 PM (/vO0r)

121 AMC Gremlin. 'Time' rates it one of the 50 worst cars evah. I saw a Gremlin make one of the ballsiest drives I have ever seen. Snoqualimie (sp?) Pass. 3 Feet of powder. Guy was rocking chains on all 4 wheels and carving it up. I stopped on the other side, at the 'Chain Off Area' just to shake his hand.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 12:29 PM (Ofb1e)

122 I had a cherry 1970 Chrysler Newport in college (late 80s). Yes, it was a "old lady" car, but you could put six people in it and there would be daylight between all of them. It had the tiny 318 V8, so I could sit on the fender with plenty of room to dangle my legs past the exhaust manifold. The trunk would hold another six people.

Posted by: Putter at April 05, 2014 12:36 PM (JkrPf)

123 But it gets him about town without a hitch.>> The I 6 in a Gremlin was a good motor. Never owned or worked on a Gremlin though so not sure how it got on the list beyond it was ugly. And anybody still driving a Gremlin is likely also having sex with it.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 05, 2014 12:38 PM (TI3xG)

124 Garages helped prevent rust; so did washing the car and drying the underside every single time you used it. This sounds extreme, but was standard auto care for better cars of the Thirties. And the guys who designed the cars of the Sixties learned what a car was...in the Thirties.

"We," spoiled by their ability to start after sitting in the snow, abused the hell out of our cars. And our expectations just went up and up.

That babe in the Packard drove to the national Packard meet this year. Alone.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 05, 2014 12:38 PM (xq1UY)

125 AMC straight 6 3 speeds were very reliable motors.  The Gremlin's styling left a lot to be desired.  The AMC Hornets were also very reliable.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 05, 2014 12:38 PM (jucos)

126 garrett, Time says it was the shape of the Gremlin that was rejected. But the VW Rabbit and Ford Fiesta a decade later were similar hatchback. Anyway, I remember when the Gremlin was out on the roads, and the only car at the time I thought looked utterly stooopid was the Honda Civic squished tennis shoe. Time reports that the Ford Edsel was rejected by the public for having a vagina gaping open in front. That, and a high price tag during a 50s recession. The 1957 Waldo Waterman Aerobile with wings that retract like the insect fly's! "There were few customers with so consummate a death wish as to order their own Aerobile, and Waterman's one working car-plane eventually wound up in the Smithsonian, where it can't kill anyone." Time http://tinyurl.com/lxns596

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 05, 2014 12:39 PM (/vO0r)

127 OMG, I was just out at Trader Joe's and, for the first time in many years, saw a Gremlin driving out of the parking lot.  It was a bright cheesy blue.  Much as it shames me to admit, my parents suckered me into one, back in the 80s, wouldn't tell me what it was, said it was "sporty" and drove it up from San Diego and cursed me with it.  Super embarrassing to drive, it was like a bronze color.  Gives me the shivers just thinking about it.  About a year later, I sold it to the resident property manageress, who promptly smacked it all up. 

Posted by: Peaches at April 05, 2014 12:39 PM (8lmkt)

128 That late 70s Bronze that they put on those things was just awful, Peaches.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 12:42 PM (Ofb1e)

129 Wiki says the Gremlin could be had with a 401 cu. in. engine.  That seems like overkill.

Posted by: Ronster at April 05, 2014 12:42 PM (puNd6)

130 That babe in the Packard drove to the national Packard meet this year. Alone.
Did you hook up?

Posted by: fluffy at April 05, 2014 12:43 PM (Ua6T/)

131 Back in the late 1980s one of the hot chicks at high school had a Gremlin. She'd drive it right into the parking lot just as proud as could be. One day I was sitting out in my car before school started and heard a loud noise. I looked in the rear view mirror and this ditz is driving into the lot with a flat tire. The tire was coming off in chunks and there were sparks. She had no idea the tire was flat.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 05, 2014 12:45 PM (oFCZn)

132 Collusion? Unions are collusion. Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 05, 2014 12:48 PM (9W+0f)

133 I had a 1966 Chrysler Newport as my college car.  I could fit 7 people in it and another 5 in the truck.  2 door, 22 feet long.  I cried when I froze that motor.  383... quiet as hell after a tune up.  Loved that car.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 05, 2014 12:49 PM (jucos)

135 AMC Gremlin. 'Time' rates it one of the 50 worst cars evah. But, I would guess that it couldn't be made to go around a corner.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 12:51 PM (Ofb1e)

136 The Gremlin had the look of a car that was cut in half.  I always expected to see the other half show up.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 05, 2014 12:51 PM (jucos)

137 1987? = 1957, dammit....

Posted by: backhoe at April 05, 2014 12:53 PM (ULH4o)

138 129 Wiki says the Gremlin could be had with a 401 cu. in. engine. That seems like overkill. Posted by: Ronster at April 05, 2014 04:42 PM (puNd6) ------- AMC made some monsters back in the day. Remember the AMX? I'm in the market for a new daily driver. Ideally, it would be an AMC Eagle with the 258 straight six in pristine condition.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 12:55 PM (OQwEH)

139 my brother came out of Vietnam and purchased a stripped down jeepish vehicle called "The Thing" IIRC it had a drain in the floor board. A drain. It looked like it was made from a kit

Posted by: thunderb at April 05, 2014 12:56 PM (zOTsN)

140 I was going to say.  They stopped the Bel Air in the late 60's.  It is a shame what has happened to GM.  I used to love them.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 05, 2014 12:56 PM (jucos)

141 The Thing was a VW. Very collectible nowadays.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 12:59 PM (OQwEH)

142

Posted by: thunderb at April 05, 2014 04:56 PM (zOTsN)

________________

VW. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 05, 2014 12:59 PM (jucos)

143

 Remember the AMX?

 

Yes, I remember all of the AMC  muscle cars.  Some of them had pretty good styling too.

Posted by: Ronster at April 05, 2014 12:59 PM (puNd6)

144 it was bright yellow. When he took me to junior high in it, I felt like I needed a pith helmet

Posted by: thunderb at April 05, 2014 01:00 PM (zOTsN)

145 122 I had a cherry 1970 Chrysler Newport in college (late 80s). The trunk would hold another six people. Posted by: Putter at April 05, 2014 04:36 PM (JkrPf) That's why we used them for "family" cars

Posted by: John Gotti at April 05, 2014 01:02 PM (aTXUx)

146 122 I had a cherry 1970 Chrysler Newport in college (late 80s). The trunk would hold another six people. Posted by: Putter at April 05, 2014 04:36 PM (JkrPf) That's why we used them for "family" cars

Posted by: John Gotti at April 05, 2014 01:02 PM (aTXUx)

147 122 I had a cherry 1970 Chrysler Newport in college (late 80s). The trunk would hold another six people. Posted by: Putter at April 05, 2014 04:36 PM (JkrPf) That's why we used them for "family" cars

Posted by: John Gotti at April 05, 2014 01:02 PM (aTXUx)

148 122 I had a cherry 1970 Chrysler Newport in college (late 80s). The trunk would hold another six people. Posted by: Putter at April 05, 2014 04:36 PM (JkrPf) That's why we used them for "family" cars

Posted by: John Gotti at April 05, 2014 01:02 PM (aTXUx)

149 Used to date a tall, slender. blue eyed blonde who looked like Candace Bergen, but with a better nose. She drove a puke green Gremlin. I couldn't believe I was (oops gentlemen don't tell). Damn

Posted by: CMU VET at April 05, 2014 01:02 PM (ejB0r)

150 Used to date a tall, slender. blue eyed blonde who looked like Candace Bergen, but with a better nose. She drove a puke green Gremlin. I couldn't believe I was (oops gentlemen don't tell). Damn

Posted by: CMU VET at April 05, 2014 01:02 PM (ejB0r)

151 Used to date a tall, slender. blue eyed blonde who looked like Candace Bergen, but with a better nose. She drove a puke green Gremlin. I couldn't believe I was (oops gentlemen don't tell). Damn

Posted by: CMU VET at April 05, 2014 01:02 PM (ejB0r)

152 Used to date a tall, slender. blue eyed blonde who looked like Candace Bergen, but with a better nose. She drove a puke green Gremlin. I couldn't believe I was (oops gentlemen don't tell). Damn

Posted by: CMU VET at April 05, 2014 01:02 PM (ejB0r)

153 Actually, it would be sweet to have an Eagle with the turbo-diesel, but seeing how they only made half a dozen, that ain't gonna happen. I also wouldn't mind finding a late 1980's Ranger with the diesel engine. I've looked for years, and never found one locally.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 01:04 PM (OQwEH)

154 Actually, it would be sweet to have an Eagle with the turbo-diesel, but seeing how they only made half a dozen, that ain't gonna happen. I also wouldn't mind finding a late 1980's Ranger with the diesel engine. I've looked for years, and never found one locally.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 01:04 PM (OQwEH)

155 Actually, it would be sweet to have an Eagle with the turbo-diesel, but seeing how they only made half a dozen, that ain't gonna happen. I also wouldn't mind finding a late 1980's Ranger with the diesel engine. I've looked for years, and never found one locally.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 01:04 PM (OQwEH)

156 Actually, it would be sweet to have an Eagle with the turbo-diesel, but seeing how they only made half a dozen, that ain't gonna happen. I also wouldn't mind finding a late 1980's Ranger with the diesel engine. I've looked for years, and never found one locally.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 01:04 PM (OQwEH)

157 thunderb, should have painted a palm tree silhouette on each door.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (I6YUj)

158 thunderb, should have painted a palm tree silhouette on each door.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (I6YUj)

159 thunderb, should have painted a palm tree silhouette on each door.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (I6YUj)

160 thunderb, should have painted a palm tree silhouette on each door.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (I6YUj)

161 There are quite a few Eagles running around up here.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (pKbNq)

162 There are quite a few Eagles running around up here.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (pKbNq)

163 There are quite a few Eagles running around up here.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (pKbNq)

164 There are quite a few Eagles running around up here.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (pKbNq)

165 OT OMG Malaysian flight 370? Malaysian officials admitted today that the batteries on the black boxes had expired and were due to be replaced

Posted by: thunderb at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (zOTsN)

166 OT OMG Malaysian flight 370? Malaysian officials admitted today that the batteries on the black boxes had expired and were due to be replaced

Posted by: thunderb at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (zOTsN)

167 OT OMG Malaysian flight 370? Malaysian officials admitted today that the batteries on the black boxes had expired and were due to be replaced

Posted by: thunderb at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (zOTsN)

168 OT OMG Malaysian flight 370? Malaysian officials admitted today that the batteries on the black boxes had expired and were due to be replaced

Posted by: thunderb at April 05, 2014 01:12 PM (zOTsN)

169 I think President Obama should make them unionize to protect the jobs. The Republicans don't care about the people and only money.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at April 05, 2014 01:16 PM (iB0Q2)

170 I think President Obama should make them unionize to protect the jobs. The Republicans don't care about the people and only money.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at April 05, 2014 01:16 PM (iB0Q2)

171 I think President Obama should make them unionize to protect the jobs. The Republicans don't care about the people and only money.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at April 05, 2014 01:16 PM (iB0Q2)

172 I think President Obama should make them unionize to protect the jobs. The Republicans don't care about the people and only money.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at April 05, 2014 01:16 PM (iB0Q2)

173 Had an 80's Ranger diesel and it did great hauling. Towards the end the smoke screen was... awesome.

Posted by: cryptocon at April 05, 2014 01:17 PM (cgWjy)

174 Had an 80's Ranger diesel and it did great hauling. Towards the end the smoke screen was... awesome.

Posted by: cryptocon at April 05, 2014 01:17 PM (cgWjy)

175 Had an 80's Ranger diesel and it did great hauling. Towards the end the smoke screen was... awesome.

Posted by: cryptocon at April 05, 2014 01:17 PM (cgWjy)

176 Had an 80's Ranger diesel and it did great hauling. Towards the end the smoke screen was... awesome.

Posted by: cryptocon at April 05, 2014 01:17 PM (cgWjy)

177 "expired"?  As in over-aged?

Okay that might mean the pinger won't work for the longest time.  But the CVR and FDR, while the plane is in flight, are powered by the aircraft's electrical system.  That was one of the clues to the arcing in the TWA Flt 800 fuel tank explosion, very very brief interruptions in the power supply to the FDR from those arcs.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:19 PM (I6YUj)

178 "expired"?  As in over-aged?

Okay that might mean the pinger won't work for the longest time.  But the CVR and FDR, while the plane is in flight, are powered by the aircraft's electrical system.  That was one of the clues to the arcing in the TWA Flt 800 fuel tank explosion, very very brief interruptions in the power supply to the FDR from those arcs.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:19 PM (I6YUj)

179 "expired"?  As in over-aged?

Okay that might mean the pinger won't work for the longest time.  But the CVR and FDR, while the plane is in flight, are powered by the aircraft's electrical system.  That was one of the clues to the arcing in the TWA Flt 800 fuel tank explosion, very very brief interruptions in the power supply to the FDR from those arcs.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:19 PM (I6YUj)

180 "expired"?  As in over-aged?

Okay that might mean the pinger won't work for the longest time.  But the CVR and FDR, while the plane is in flight, are powered by the aircraft's electrical system.  That was one of the clues to the arcing in the TWA Flt 800 fuel tank explosion, very very brief interruptions in the power supply to the FDR from those arcs.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 05, 2014 01:19 PM (I6YUj)

181 Nood -- Travel Thread.

Posted by: Y-not from her sick bed at April 05, 2014 01:22 PM (zDsvJ)

182 Nood -- Travel Thread.

Posted by: Y-not from her sick bed at April 05, 2014 01:22 PM (zDsvJ)

183 Nood -- Travel Thread.

Posted by: Y-not from her sick bed at April 05, 2014 01:22 PM (zDsvJ)

184 Nood -- Travel Thread.

Posted by: Y-not from her sick bed at April 05, 2014 01:22 PM (zDsvJ)

185 Malaysian flight 370? Malaysian officials admitted today that the batteries on the black boxes had expired and were due to be replaced


Posted by: thunderb at April 05, 2014 05:12 PM (zOTsN)



Posted by: Peaches at April 05, 2014 01:28 PM (8lmkt)

186 141 The Thing was a VW. Very collectible nowadays. Posted by: shredded chi at April 05, 2014 04:59 PM (OQwEH) Yeah, that's the thing about collectibles. Not just cars, but anything collectible. The things you save, thinking they might be valuable someday? Nope. The trash you get rid of when you're cleaning out the attic? Suprise. Collectible.

Posted by: rickl at April 05, 2014 01:35 PM (sdi6R)

187 The 80's Shelby Omnis and Chargers were faster than the Camaros, Firebirds and Mustangs of the day, FWIW.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at April 05, 2014 01:37 PM (yh0zB)


Yeah man, but they weren't faster than my GN

Posted by: Mr Wolf at April 05, 2014 01:47 PM (pCKXz)

188 Sorry kbdabear, but I think that Shelby is a '69. You are thinking of he '68 GT500 which became the look of the '69 production cars. The '69 Shelby then became the 1970 production cars. See link in name.

Posted by: Chris M at April 05, 2014 01:58 PM (4lyMJ)

189 Anyone remember the car on the "For Ladies Only" Steppenwolf album cover? http://tinyurl.com/ltytwln Posted by: kbdabear at April 05, 2014 04:19 PM (aTXUx) Yah. Steve and Gary later bought it.

Posted by: Bill H at April 05, 2014 02:06 PM (3sZO1)

190 Sorry- just realized I fucked up my own joke. It was Ace and Gary.

Posted by: Bill H at April 05, 2014 02:17 PM (3sZO1)

191 In automotive news from my household, the transmission in my F-150 suddenly started doing bad things so I limped it over to the Ford dealer last evening. This morning, the service department called back to let me know that their transmission department has so many vehicles ahead of mine that it will be Tuesday before they can look at it. That makes me suspect that Ford might have some issues with their transmissions. Just what I need, a multi thousand dollar bill for a new transmission.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 05, 2014 02:18 PM (PD6iL)

192 Oh, by the way, let's see if Opera does ampersands: &&&&

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 05, 2014 02:19 PM (PD6iL)

193 The '72 Pantera I picked up a couple years ago was partially disassembled and left sitting in a warehouse since '81. It was being bu8ilt to go racing in Gr4 ...even came with the never-raced racing engine.  "Barn finds" do exist. ;-)

Posted by: Gilligan at April 05, 2014 02:23 PM (hTkK/)

194 Hi guys, I write for a muscle car auction company and see the occasional so-called barn find, and they almost always have a fascinating story. Best one so far: a White-on-Red 67 Corvette 427/435 HP coupe purchased new by a retired Marine and discovered in his garage after his passing in 2012 with just 2,996 miles on it. He bought it with winnings from a slot machine when he went to Vegas to celebrate his retirement. Amazing.

Posted by: Kane Rogers at April 05, 2014 02:24 PM (evUpK)

195 I drove a 1970 Plymouth Fury III in college. Automatic transmission but no power steering. Boy was that a bitch to drive. Parking was easy: You just pushed cars out of the way, like a tank. I once got into an 'accident' in the Fury in 1979. I was stopped at a stop sign intersecting a 2 lane city street. I looked right, left, then right again, before proceeding. I ended up broadsiding a car that came out of nowhere. Found out she came from a parking lot on my left, diagonally across the street. I literally didn't see her until I broadsided her right rear passenger panel. I had a small scratch on the heavy chrome bumper. When the cop came, I wasn't given a ticket as I technically had right of way. He asked me what I wanted him to do. He said, 'Look, you've got a penny scratch and she's got over $900 damage'. I said if I'm not getting a ticket, then let her deal with the cost of the repairs, which was much more than any ticket would have been back then. That car was a beast, but one I'd want any time if I were in an accident. I also liked the bench front seat, where you needed help from a passenger in getting the damn thing forward as one person just made the seat go askew and not slide easily.

Posted by: RickZ at April 05, 2014 02:42 PM (bBzIN)

196 "The Thing was a VW. Very collectible nowadays."

There is one around the SF Bay Area which has been retromodded to resemble the WWII German Wehrmacht staff car which was the genesis of that design. Historical re-enactors.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 05, 2014 02:57 PM (noWW6)

197 Posted by: Chris M at April 05, 2014 05:58 PM (4lyMJ) FYI Not all '69 Shelbys were sold, so the remaining cars were given new VINs under FBI supervision and sold as 1970 models. The hoop-style front bumper treatment didn't appear on the Mustang until 1971.

Posted by: Kane Rogers at April 05, 2014 02:59 PM (ZekqQ)

198 the Thing was based on the VW Kubelwagen. I won't even try to make Pixy do umlauts, but there is one.

Posted by: scottst at April 05, 2014 05:13 PM (Fp9Vt)

199 Kübelwagen. There.

Posted by: rickl at April 05, 2014 08:25 PM (sdi6R)

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