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March 03, 2014

"Eurasianism" Ideology Mixes the Best Parts of Marxism, Naziism
— Ace

Well, that's what this guy says Putin's "Eurasian Union" is ultimately about.

I don't know if that's true-- it could be that Putin is just using that term ("Eurasian") and this other character uses it for his weird Soviet Nazi hybrid.

Worth reading, though.

Putin is sometimes described as a revanchist, seeking to recreate the Soviet Union. That is a useful shorthand, but it is not really accurate. Putin and many of his gang may have once been Communists, but they are not that today. Rather, they have embraced a new totalitarian political ideology known as Â“Eurasianism.Â”
The roots of Eurasianism go back to czarist Ã©migrÃ©s interacting with fascist thinkers in between-the-wars France and Germany. But in recent years, its primary exponent has been the very prominent and prolific political theorist Aleksandr Dugin.
Born in 1962, Dugin was admitted to the Moscow Aviation Institute in 1979, but then was expelled because of his involvement with mystic neo-Nazi groups... after which he became a founder and chief ideologue of the Eurasianist National Bolshevik Party (NBP) in 1994.
Nazism, it will be recalled, was an abbreviation for National Socialism. National Bolshevism, therefore, put itself forth as an ideology that relates to National Socialism in much the same way as Bolshevism relates to Socialism. This open self-identification with Nazism is also shown clearly in the NBP flag, which looks exactly like a Nazi flag, with a red background surrounding a white circle, except that the black swastika at the center is replaced by a black hammer and sickle.
...
The core idea of DuginÂ’s Eurasianism is that Â“liberalismÂ” (by which is meant the entire Western consensus) represents an assault on the traditional hierarchical organization of the world....
In order to be so united, this Eurasian Union will need a defining ideology, and for this purpose Dugin has developed a new Â“Fourth Political TheoryÂ” combining all the strongest points of Communism, Nazism, Ecologism, and Traditionalism, thereby allowing it to appeal to the adherents of all of these diverse anti-liberal creeds. He would adopt CommunismÂ’s opposition to free enterprise. However, he would drop the Marxist commitment to technological progress, a liberal-derived ideal, in favor of EcologismÂ’s demagogic appeal to stop the advance of industry and modernity. From Traditionalism, he derives a justification for stopping free thought. All the rest is straight out of Nazism, ranging from legal theories justifying unlimited state power and the elimination of individual rights, to the need for populations Â“rootedÂ” in the soil, to weird gnostic ideas about the secret origin of the Aryan race in the North Pole.

Uh, I did not quote one important part of this, because of fair use, and because it was so Crazy Crank I felt embarrassed even having it on the site.

But it goes like this: This guy Dugin claims that there has been a battle since the beginning of time between the evil, cunning agents of Atlantis (yes, that Atlantis), who today make up all the world's maritime and mercantile peoples, and the good land-based farmer folk of the inland parts of the world.

Almost all of the world's conflicts of the past 10,000 years, he thinks, were really proxy wars between the Atlanteans and the Land People.

This is where I started to think, "There's no way Putin believes this."

But then, Hitler is said to embraced lots of crazy Blavatskyan mystical hokum, so there is precedent, I guess.

(Actually I think there's some debate on this, and while this idea that Hitler was "just crazy about the occult" is popular (and is of course the foundation of the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark), I don't know if it's established that Hitler himself was a member of the Thule Society and all that. I mean, he was obviously a lunatic, but I don't know if it's as true as popular culture tells us that he was into runes, Atlantis, and all the other sort of theosophical crap that had been bubbling up since the 1870s.)

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1 Oneth again?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 03, 2014 02:25 PM (0HooB)

2 Twice in one day. I really need to get a life. I'll get the others...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 03, 2014 02:26 PM (0HooB)

3 Secondth?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 02:26 PM (o3MSL)

4 guys, I don't feel like going to war over this right now...last two admins done wore me out. I have a headache. yeah that's it.

Posted by: Lady Billingsgate at March 03, 2014 02:26 PM (TJGV9)

5 Has "Ancient Aliens" covered the battle since the beginning of time between the Agents of Atlantis and the farmer folk?

Maybe next season...

History is fun...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 03, 2014 02:27 PM (AC0lD)

6 Sounds a bit like the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, no?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 02:28 PM (o3MSL)

7 2 Twice in one day. I really need to get a life. I'll get the others... Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 03, 2014 06:26 PM (0HooB) When I'm getting stuff done, I usually don't have time to post here, except on breaks and such.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 02:29 PM (bb5+k)

8 5 Has "Ancient Aliens" covered the battle since the beginning of time between the Agents of Atlantis and the farmer folk? Maybe next season... History is fun... Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 03, 2014 06:27 PM (AC0lD) Moar big hair!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 03, 2014 02:29 PM (UAMVq)

9 I don't know if it's established that Hitler himself was a member of the Thule Society The guys who make ski racks?

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 03, 2014 02:29 PM (/Gd5e)

10 Aleksandr Dugin? Wasn't that the fake identity that the Jackal used in the movie "The Day of The Jackal"? Ok, maybe not. Good movie though... think I'll watch it again soon.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at March 03, 2014 02:29 PM (LMtDw)

11 Yeah, read yer Plato. We kicked those Atlanteans' butts.

Posted by: Athens[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 03, 2014 02:29 PM (P7Wsr)

12
Agents of Atlantis

Ridiculous.

Posted by: Queen E-lizard-beth II

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2014 02:30 PM (kdS6q)

13 The Eurasian Swallow has a lot going for it.

Posted by: garrett at March 03, 2014 02:30 PM (UiS9B)

14 Great. Back to Blood and Soil again. With Atlanteans. And Marx.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at March 03, 2014 02:30 PM (sPO/s)

15 I don't find any of this alarming. These crayons are delicious though!

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 03, 2014 02:30 PM (oFCZn)

16 I can explain this much easier: "It's good to be The King"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 02:30 PM (t3UFN)

17 He would adopt CommunismÂ’s opposition to free enterprise. However, he would drop the Marxist commitment to technological progress, a liberal-derived ideal, in favor of EcologismÂ’s demagogic appeal to stop the advance of industry and modernity. From Traditionalism, he derives a justification for stopping free thought Didn't pol pot and Mao do this already? Sounds like a recipe for mass starvation

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 02:31 PM (zOTsN)

Naziism vs Communism

So, will it be

One Leader of the All Powerful State Leading the People,

-or-

One Leader of the All Powerful People Leading the State?

And what is the difference, other than snazzy boots and uniforms vs great posters?

Posted by: rd at March 03, 2014 02:31 PM (D+lxs)

19 I honestly wouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: Adam at March 03, 2014 02:31 PM (Aif/5)

20 I don't know about the whole Atlantean thing, but Putin sure does love him some power.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 03, 2014 02:31 PM (UAMVq)

21 Sarah Palin claimed to be able to see Atlantis from the Alaska State Capital Building.

Posted by: Because Shutup. Also, H8Rs at March 03, 2014 02:31 PM (Hj9yW)

22 Actually a dictatorship is a dictatorship. The current one thinks he/she can do it better than the last one. They are all evil, some more than others. The Commies kept the ethnic strife in their countries to a minimum. Hitler tried to exterminate the Joos. Castro the educated & middle class the list goes on. Call it what you want wordsmiths, it's still a dictatorship

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 03, 2014 02:32 PM (HVff2)

23 And the SCOAMF is a gutless pussy.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 03, 2014 02:32 PM (UAMVq)

24 Very little surprises me anymore. It seems there's no shortage of crazy shit to believe. That old saying, "If you don't believe in God, you'll believe in anything" certainly seems true.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 03, 2014 02:32 PM (0HooB)

25 Eh....Eurasianism is a tool, like Islam is for that revolutionary political philosophy of the same name.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2014 02:32 PM (QFxY5)

26 Hitler wasn't in the Thule Society, as it was upper-middle class and snooty, and all that. Lumpenprole Adolf had mixed feelings about the Thulians

and he schuppted his niece and lied about the vegetarian thing; so there's that

Posted by: Freddy Neet-sche at March 03, 2014 02:32 PM (omBWL)

27 >>>>"Eurasianism" Ideology Mixes the Best Parts of Marxism, Naziism <<<<<

So which group are these people going to try to exterminate this time?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 03, 2014 02:32 PM (gorVZ)

28 The Nazis arose out of such mystical/occult groups such as the Thule Society and The Germanen Orden.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 03, 2014 02:33 PM (GKbOt)

29 The Eurasian Swallow has a lot going for it. Laden or unladen?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 03, 2014 02:33 PM (0HooB)

30 No doubt it will be called a " far right" idealogy.

Posted by: steevy at March 03, 2014 02:33 PM (zqvg6)

31 Sounds like a recipe for mass starvation

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 06:31 PM (zOTsN)

Darn it, I know I have a copy of "To Serve Man" around here somewhere!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 02:34 PM (o3MSL)

32 So which group are these people going to try to exterminate this time? The Mongrels.

Posted by: garrett at March 03, 2014 02:34 PM (UiS9B)

33 23 And the SCOAMF is a gutless pussy.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 03, 2014 06:32 PM (UAMVq)

THANK YOU!!

This needs to be mainstreamed. But who would yell out that the emperor has no clothes?

And is a big, moist one....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 03, 2014 02:34 PM (AC0lD)

34 The Illumati, having concealed the entrance to the Center Of The Earth in Iceland, will save us all at the proper time by activating their 34th degree Masons hiding out there.

You would think that Naziism wouldn't be such a popular ideology in a country that experienced the sharp end of it so thoroughly some 60 odd years ago.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 03, 2014 02:34 PM (wNF3N)

35 SoÂ…..Atlanteans (??) and Land People. That explains all wars and such. Right. Does this mean this is pretty much an Open Thread, Ace?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 03, 2014 02:34 PM (GEICT)

36 27 The " ecological" part means ,all people.

Posted by: steevy at March 03, 2014 02:34 PM (zqvg6)

37 You got your Nazi on my Communism. Well you stuck your Communism in my Nazi.

Posted by: Racist Tyrrany Cups at March 03, 2014 02:34 PM (sOtz/)

38 Laden or unladen?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at March 03, 2014 06:33 PM (0HooB)

I...don't know!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2014 02:35 PM (QFxY5)

39 14 Great. Back to Blood and Soil again. With Atlanteans. And Marx. Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at March 03, 2014 06:30 PM (sPO/s) It's a lot easier to understand when you postulate that Humans are generally insane, except for a few outliers. We are Chimpanzees pecking on typewriters, but most of us don't realize it yet.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 02:35 PM (bb5+k)

40 He's not a crazy Watermelon, he is a ruthless businessman who loves his nation. Unlike our crazy race baiter who hates his...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 02:35 PM (TE35l)

41 The housing market in Atlantis is not doing well, many homeowners are underwater on their mortgages.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 03, 2014 02:35 PM (g4TxM)

42
Bring back the aristocracy and return the people to a peasantry rooted in the soil!

/shorter Dugin

Posted by: Got a little length of bone now and I like it at March 03, 2014 02:35 PM (UxKxm)

43 The Pentavirate is still on our side though, yes?

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 03, 2014 02:35 PM (/Gd5e)

44 Putin has to get plunder from somewhere to pay his army. Also needs slaves to build infrastrucure. It's unlikely he is going to get investors.

Posted by: Huggy at March 03, 2014 02:35 PM (aUlRP)

45 People get paid to write this stuff?

People read this nonsense?

National Review has really gone off track in the last two or three years.

Posted by: The Starving Man at March 03, 2014 02:35 PM (SKp/h)

24 That old saying, "If you don't believe in God, you'll believe in anything" certainly seems true.

But what does Kim Kardashian support?

Posted by: Environmentalism in a nut shell at March 03, 2014 02:35 PM (D+lxs)

47 My mind immediately went to Sharknado

Posted by: L, elle at March 03, 2014 02:35 PM (0xqKe)

48 The Mongrels.

I called them Muggles!

Posted by: JK Rowling[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 03, 2014 02:36 PM (P7Wsr)

49 41 The housing market in Atlantis is not doing well, many homeowners are underwater on their mortgages. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 03, 2014 06:35 PM (g4TxM) Oh dear God, that was bad.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 03, 2014 02:36 PM (UAMVq)

50 I hate monkeys.

Posted by: garrett at March 03, 2014 02:36 PM (UiS9B)

51 39 D-Lamp, Everyone is allowed to be proud but Anglics.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 02:36 PM (TE35l)

52 The Soviets (except maybe the first wave of Bolsheviks) were never 'true' Marxist/Communists. The Bolsheviks were perhaps the original 'useful idiots," and were quickly killed/purged/silenced by the Soviets, especially when Stalin came to power. He and subsequent Soviet leaders were pure-and-simple authoritarians who mainly mouthed the Communist codewords and cynically rode the communist/populist wave to whatever success they achieved before they collapsed their economy. Barack Obama is much, much closer to being a 'real' Communist ideological true believer than Vlad Putin, IMHO.

Posted by: filbert at March 03, 2014 02:36 PM (roTS7)

53 The current one thinks he/she can do it better than the last one.

...

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 03, 2014 06:32 PM (HVff2)

I think dictators believe at their very core that they KNOW they can do it better than the last one!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 02:36 PM (o3MSL)

54 "National Socialist" = "Nazi"
then "National Bolshevik" = "Nabob"

Posted by: Null at March 03, 2014 02:36 PM (xjpRj)

55 43 The Pentavirate is still on our side though, yes? Posted by: Waterhouse at March 03, 2014 06:35 PM (/Gd5e) Peruvia too, but I'm not sure how long they can hold out. Putin wants take control of the rhinestone mines.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 03, 2014 02:37 PM (oFCZn)

56 Atlanteans and the Land People Someone, I forget who, said it better, ''oceania has always been at war with eastasia''

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at March 03, 2014 02:37 PM (CnA98)

57 Don't forget the Reptiloids! http://youtu.be/5JU55Cul9OE

Posted by: steevy at March 03, 2014 02:37 PM (zqvg6)

58 the Nazis 'arose' ( or descended ) out of Germany losing the war, being occupied by foreign troops for twelve years afterwards, widespread hunger after the war, the crisis of 1923 wiping out most people's savings....usw

but then, with all that, they only got a third of the vote, barely more than the KPD, so Social Chaos only takes you so far. The occult / Aryan stuff was catnip to nutters like Himmler and Ribbentrop. Most of the Nazi BigBoys simply wanted absolute power over a large wealthy industrial nation

Posted by: Freddy Neet-sche at March 03, 2014 02:37 PM (omBWL)

59 50 I hate monkeys. Posted by: garrett at March 03, 2014 06:36 PM (UiS9B) AOSHQ Stylebook requires "I hate fucking monkeys."

Posted by: Insomniac at March 03, 2014 02:37 PM (UAMVq)

60 But what does Kim Kardashian support? Posted by: Environmentalism in a nut shell at March 03, 2014 06:35 PM (D+lxs) A heckuva rack and ass.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 03, 2014 02:38 PM (GEICT)

61 28 The Nazis arose out of such mystical/occult groups such as the Thule Society and The Germanen Orden. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 03, 2014 06:33 PM (GKbOt) With a heavy dose of Homosexuality thrown in. According to William L. Shirer, the organization started out in a homosexual social club. So yeah, totes mental.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 02:38 PM (bb5+k)

62 But what does Kim Kardashian support?

Kanye's crazy?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 03, 2014 02:38 PM (P7Wsr)

Eurasian Union?

Is that like...a Russia-China Union?

And those are the only two countries in a race to get to the Moon.

But I'm sure that we have nothing to fear...those guys would never dream on pointing missiles at us from Space.

Right?

Posted by: wheatie at March 03, 2014 02:38 PM (QsHQT)

64 Guess this explains all the anti-Jew shit we've been seeing in Crimea. What is it about some people that when the chains come off they instantly go anti-Jew? It's like a reflex or something.

Tempest/Upton 2016.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 03, 2014 02:38 PM (hn70M)

65 Alien vs predator?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 03, 2014 02:38 PM (YgTB4)

o/t

Barack is going to sanction Russia. If you have not stocked up on cheap Russian ammo for your rifle, you might want to hurry up. It is going to all go away.

Posted by: rd at March 03, 2014 02:38 PM (D+lxs)

67 Dammit! "1984" was not an instruction manual!

Posted by: George Orwell at March 03, 2014 02:38 PM (XvHmy)

68 54 "National Socialist" = "Nazi" then "National Bolshevik" = "Nabob" Posted by: Null at March 03, 2014 06:36 PM (xjpRj) Yes, but do they natter?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 03, 2014 02:38 PM (UAMVq)

69 This open self-identification with Nazism is also shown clearly in the NBP flag, which looks exactly like a Nazi flag, with a red background surrounding a white circle, except that the black swastika at the center is replaced by a black hammer and sickle. Ah, the best of both worlds. No, I don't see how that can possibly go wrong.

Posted by: rickl at March 03, 2014 02:39 PM (sdi6R)

70 A heckuva rack and ass. -------- You damn right and this chocolate Jesus foot soldier Nelson Mandela be all up in dat ass.

Posted by: Kanye West at March 03, 2014 02:39 PM (Aif/5)

71 63...dream *of* pointing

Posted by: wheatie at March 03, 2014 02:39 PM (QsHQT)

72 You would think that Naziism wouldn't be such a popular ideology in a country that experienced the sharp end of it so thoroughly some 60 odd years ago. Posted by: GnuBreed at March 03, 2014 06:34 PM (wNF3N) Stockholm syndrome?

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 02:39 PM (bb5+k)

73 Putin is also transparently easy to understand as a rabid Russian nationalist and a firm believer in bare-knuckles realpolitik. True leftists like Obama and Our Media find nationalists and realpolitk both utterly incomprehensible, of course.

Posted by: filbert at March 03, 2014 02:40 PM (roTS7)

74 Does this mean this is pretty much an Open Thread, Ace? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 03, 2014 06:34 PM (GEICT) I hope so, because I can't think of anything serious to say on this topic.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 02:40 PM (bb5+k)

75 Obama admin. and its worshipers = Tool Society

Posted by: and no, not Tool (the band) at March 03, 2014 02:40 PM (UIxS+)

76 Honestly, I think "Eurasian Union" is just meant to be a geographical description of Tsar Vladimir's empire. But even if it is an announcement that Putin and the Russians are about to go full tilt psycho slavinazi apeshit, there isn't a lot we can do about it in the truly lamentable state we have brought ourselves.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at March 03, 2014 02:40 PM (P/gm7)

77 I think The Left might crack up over this. I just saw a guy on CNN that was so hard left on this issue he forced Christine Amanpour to the right. Stephen Cohen. Then I google this unshaven, unhappy looking man and find out he is married to Katrina Vanden huevel.

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 02:40 PM (RJMhd)

78 Posted by: Dr Spank at March 03, 2014 06:38 PM (hn70M)

No.

The national sport of the Ukraine has been "kill the Jew" for a long time.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2014 02:40 PM (QFxY5)

79 75 Obama admin. and its worshipers = Tool Society You take that back!

Posted by: Maynard James Keenan at March 03, 2014 02:41 PM (UAMVq)

80 You damn right and this chocolate Jesus foot soldier Nelson Mandela be all up in dat ass. Posted by: Kanye West at March 03, 2014 06:39 PM (Aif/5) What's that actor guy from Bruce Almighty have to do with this?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 03, 2014 02:41 PM (GEICT)

81 But I'm sure that we have nothing to fear...those guys would never dream on pointing missiles at us from Space.
Right?

Posted by: wheatie at March 03, 2014 06:38 PM (QsHQT)

R A Heinlein had a concept for that in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress".

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 02:41 PM (o3MSL)

82 So we are talking about some dude who was expelled from Aviation School and went on to write about Atlantis? Hum, are we sure his last name is no Rivera?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 02:41 PM (t3UFN)

83 I don't know if it's as true as popular culture tells us that he was into runes, Atlantis, and all the other sort of theosophical crap that had been bubbling up since the 1870s.) He was into the whole pagan milieu, it's in his letters. He even funded archaeologists looking for Atlantean ancestors. What's also in his personal letters is his wish to eventually destroy the Catholic Church. As that last wish wouldn't have been popular with his troops, he kept quiet about that.

Posted by: theCork at March 03, 2014 02:42 PM (hbAdE)

84 40 He's not a crazy Watermelon, he is a ruthless businessman who loves his nation. Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 06:35 PM (TE35l) Especially the part about him running it.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 02:42 PM (bb5+k)

85 It was the best of times. It was the blurst of times.

Posted by: chimpanzee typist at March 03, 2014 02:42 PM (hn5v5)

86 Which is more likely? Putin is a crazy pants crazy man who follows a political sect so crazy that even scientologists would be aghast or...he just wants more power and wants to bring the soviet back together?

Posted by: Lauren at March 03, 2014 02:42 PM (hFL/3)

87 Certainly Hess and Frank were members but the Thule society was all but defunct by '25. And also Hitler had other vÃ¶lkisch occultist groups like Thule shut down with the anti-Masonic laws in '33.

Himmler expressed more interest in the occult stuff than Hilter.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 03, 2014 02:42 PM (Y/M/K)

88 Hah. I spit on Atlanteans. I'm from Pellucidar.

Posted by: Vlad Putin at March 03, 2014 02:42 PM (DtNNC)

89 Posted by: Queen E-lizard-beth II Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 03, 2014 06:30 PM (kdS6q) A call for tolerance: http://tinyurl.com/mcefood

Posted by: Shape-Shifting Reptilian Space Pope at March 03, 2014 02:43 PM (XvHmy)

90 I think dictators believe at their very core thatthey KNOW they can do it better than the last one! Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 06:36 PM (o3MSL) Sounds like our current clown in the White House.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 03, 2014 02:43 PM (HVff2)

91 Now you see why I support the space program in some form. Cuz when I think of the various pinskulls running around with the keys to large numbers of nuclear weapons, it's not gonna be SMOD that's needed after all.

We've gotta get off of this rock. And soon.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 03, 2014 02:43 PM (wNF3N)

92 You got your Nazi on my Communism. Well you stuck your Communism in my Nazi. Posted by: Racist Tyrrany Cups at March 03, 2014 06:34 PM (sOtz/) F**k. Not againÂ…

Posted by: Poland at March 03, 2014 02:44 PM (XvHmy)

93 National Review has really gone off track in the last two or three years. Posted by: The Starving Man at March 03, 2014 06:35 PM (SKp/h) Well they had Christopher Buckley. If an Obama supporter can work there, you know the place has got to be pretty fucked up somehow.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 02:44 PM (bb5+k)

94 We've gotta get off of this rock. And soon. Workin' on it . . .

Posted by: Elon Musk, Supergenius at March 03, 2014 02:44 PM (roTS7)

95 "National Socialist" = "Nazi" then "National Bolshevik" = "Nabob" Posted by: Null at March 03, 2014 06:36 PM (xjpRj) Are they being "negative" though?

Posted by: Zombie Spiro Agnew at March 03, 2014 02:44 PM (XvHmy)

You would think that Naziism wouldn't be such a popular ideology in a country that experienced the sharp end of it so thoroughly some 60 odd years ago.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 03, 2014 06:34 PM (wNF3N)

Look at it from their end, Stalin did his best to kill EVERYONE in Ukraine. By STARVING them. Starvation is a slow, demoralizing, debilitating way to die. It hurts, and it hurts worse to see your children suffer and die. The devil himself would seem to be an improvement over Stalin.

Posted by: rd at March 03, 2014 02:44 PM (D+lxs)

97 Almost all of the world's conflicts of the past 10,000 years, he thinks, were really proxy wars between the Atlanteans and the Land People. I watched with glee While your kings and queens Fought for ten decades For the gods they made I shouted out, Who killed the kennedys? When after all It was you and me Let me please introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and taste And I laid traps for troubadours Who get killed before they reached bombay Pleased to meet you Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah But what's puzzling you Is the nature of my game

Posted by: Beelzebub at March 03, 2014 02:44 PM (X3GkB)

Everything that the Liberals have said "will happen"...is not happening.

And everything that the Liberals have said "won't happen"...is happening.

Are Liberals ever right about anything?

Posted by: wheatie at March 03, 2014 02:45 PM (QsHQT)

99 51 39 D-Lamp, Everyone is allowed to be proud but Anglics. Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 06:36 PM (TE35l) I wouldn't worry about it. When we riot they call it a "War."

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 02:45 PM (bb5+k)

100 94 We've gotta get off of this rock. And soon. I'll get to it once I'm done nursing this hangover.

Posted by: Zephraim Cochrane at March 03, 2014 02:45 PM (UAMVq)

101 Sounds like a really evil sub sandwich.

Posted by: jmel at March 03, 2014 02:46 PM (f5AJI)

102 I cannot believe this. I thought the history of the world wars was cool FROM A DISTANCE. Now we get Nazis with nukes and ballistic missiles.

Look, whatever I did in my previous life, I'm really, really sorry.

Just let my last shipment of 7.62 get here, okay? Give me a fighting chance?

Posted by: Xenophon at March 03, 2014 02:46 PM (JNMaY)

103 Posted by: rd at March 03, 2014 06:44 PM (D+lxs)

They welcomed the Nazis....until the einsatzgruppen showed up and started killing lots of...Ukranians!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2014 02:46 PM (QFxY5)

104 You'll love Atlantis if you love rape and armed robbery.

Posted by: Peruvia Tourism Bureau at March 03, 2014 02:46 PM (hn70M)

105 Finally a version of Vasconcelos' Raza de Bronce for Russkis. Everyone wants to believe their ethnicity is the master race. I personally prefer Harold Ramis's American mutt version myself.

Posted by: Roy at March 03, 2014 02:46 PM (ggEAc)

106 I hope so, because I can't think of anything serious to say on this topic.
So the Joooo Atlanteans have gotten to D-Lamp too. We'll have to have jwest straighten him out.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 03, 2014 02:46 PM (hn5v5)

107 I think it was Himmler who was cuckoo for the Black Sun/Hollow Earth/Vril-powered UFO shite. This may explain how the History Channel Morphed into the Aliens Among Us Channel. Nazis on the Moon, and all.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 03, 2014 02:46 PM (QBm1P)

108 77 I think The Left might crack up over this.
I just saw a guy on CNN that was so hard left on this issue he forced Christine Amanpour to the right. Stephen Cohen.
Then I google this unshaven, unhappy looking man and find out he is married to Katrina Vanden huevel.
Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 06:40 PM (RJMhd)
He was on the Macneil Lehrer newshour every week back in the 70's and 80's saying how great the USSR was and how we sucked.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 03, 2014 02:47 PM (YgTB4)

109 We've gotta get off of this rock. And soon. Oh, shut yer flap! You had your chance to go to the Moon with me...and you blew it.

Posted by: Newt Gingrich at March 03, 2014 02:47 PM (UiS9B)

110 92 Poland, Fucking tell me about it... //Finland

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 02:47 PM (TE35l)

111 Posted by: Beelzebub at March 03, 2014 06:44 PM (X3GkB) I think after last weeks theology vs. no theology threads you probably do not exist. Me on the other hand do think that.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 03, 2014 02:48 PM (HVff2)

112 I think a lot of people are overthinking Putin's motives here. Basically like you mentioned in a post a few days ago, he, like a lot (maybe most?) of Russia, laments the loss of the Soviet empire, loathes the American End-of-History triumphalism that followed, and wants a return to a Russian empire.

Posted by: Paul at March 03, 2014 02:48 PM (UCGF6)

113 I think The Left might crack up over this. I just saw a guy on CNN that was so hard left on this issue he forced Christine Amanpour to the right. Stephen Cohen. Then I google this unshaven, unhappy looking man and find out he is married to Katrina Vanden huevel. Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 06:40 PM (RJMhd) He was on the Macneil Lehrer newshour every week back in the 70's and 80's saying how great the USSR was and how we sucked. --Isn't Stephen Cohen also the name of the ultra-creepy Demotard from TN with the mysterious bastard daughter?

Posted by: logprof at March 03, 2014 02:49 PM (X3GkB)

114 He was on the Macneil Lehrer newshour every week back in the 70's and 80's saying how great the USSR was and how we sucked. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 03, 2014 06:47 PM (YgTB4) ********** First time I ever saw him--but I could almost smell something right through the screen. The guy is a miserable human.

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 02:49 PM (RJMhd)

115 69 This open self-identification with Nazism is also shown clearly in the NBP flag, which looks exactly like a Nazi flag, with a red background surrounding a white circle, except that the black swastika at the center is replaced by a black hammer and sickle. Ah, the best of both worlds. No, I don't see how that can possibly go wrong. Posted by: rickl at March 03, 2014 06:39 PM (sdi6R) Ha! That's funny, because according to Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn ("Leftism Revisited) the ORIGINAL Nazi flags were made out of communist flags over which they sewed Swastikas to cover up the hammer and sickle.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 02:49 PM (bb5+k)

116 110 92 Poland, Fucking tell me about it... //Finland --------------- ///Norway

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 03, 2014 02:49 PM (HVff2)

117 Is this our afternoon/evening entertainment post?

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 03, 2014 02:49 PM (hn70M)

118 So according to Dugin, the coastal peoples are capitalists, while the farmers are socialists.

It's a theory.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 03, 2014 02:49 PM (IN7k+)

119 105 Roy, That would require our Tyrones and Tyronitas to embrace "American" and not "-American." Good luck.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 02:49 PM (TE35l)

120 82 Hum, are we sure his last name is not Rivera? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 06:41 PM (t3UFN) Como? Yo? No, no, no. I don't do this thing.

Posted by: Manuel Rivera at March 03, 2014 02:50 PM (dfYL9)

121 OK, fellow Atlaneans, I must surrender our only working laptop to B'Gal. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 03, 2014 02:50 PM (0HooB)

122 Now we get Nazis with nukes and ballistic missiles.
So we'll have peace finally at last!

Posted by: zombie edith keeler at March 03, 2014 02:50 PM (hn5v5)

123 Ace,

Do remember doing a walkthrough for every single first person shooter ever made?

Could you do a refresh on it, as some of us here are going to have to practice going through dead enemy pockets looking for spare magazines.

I already have a crossbow.

Posted by: Xenophon at March 03, 2014 02:51 PM (JNMaY)

124 116 110 92 Poland, Fucking tell me about it... //Finland --------------- ///Norway Is this where the line is forming?

Posted by: France at March 03, 2014 02:51 PM (roTS7)

125 Wait the Jooos are Atlanteans? I'm going to need a a chart to figure this out.

Posted by: alexthechick SMODlings ho! at March 03, 2014 02:52 PM (Gk3SS)

126 I'm always cringe-laughing that this century is shaping up to be a repeat of the last, but it really feels that way. Except maybe in this fun-house mirror version, the Allies lost and there are aliens. Help, I'm trapped in a Turtledove novel!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 03, 2014 02:53 PM (QBm1P)

127 "Historians are divided on the question of whether Hitler was actually ever a member of either the Temple of the New Order or the Armanen, but it is certain that he was a reader of Ostara* and met Lanz several times in that period he later alluded to as providing him with "the foundation of a knowledge" which was to become so important to him."

pg 17, The Nazis and the Occult Dusty Sklar.

* Ostara was the occult magazine of the Order of the New Templars and written Lanz who founded this group in 1900.

Lanz in his racial theories divided Mankind into ace-men [The Aryan ideal] and ape-men [repositories of everything vile].

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 03, 2014 02:53 PM (GKbOt)

128 History repeats..... First as tragedy, then as farce.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 03, 2014 02:53 PM (jucos)

129 --Isn't Stephen Cohen also the name of the ultra-creepy Demotard from TN with the mysterious bastard daughter? Posted by: logprof at March 03, 2014 06:49 PM (X3GkB) logprof I think it's this one. He's in a fight with The New Republic and Katrina let's him reel at The Nation also looks like CNN gives him lot's of face time. Wolf Blitzer's show and Farek's. *** Since 1998, Cohen has been professor of Russian Studies and History at New York University, where he teaches a course titled "Russia Since 1917." He previously taught at Princeton University. He has written several books including those listed below. He is also a CBS News consultant as well as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Cohen has a son and a daughter from his first marriage to opera singer Lynne Blair, from whom he is divorced. Cohen is now married to Katrina vanden Heuvel, editor of the progressive magazine The Nation, where he is also a contributing editor. They have one daughter.

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 02:53 PM (RJMhd)

130 I guess we'll know it's really on when Hollywood types and liberals start collaborating and making pro-communist/dictator flicks.....

Oh shit.

/starts filling sandbags

Posted by: Xenophon at March 03, 2014 02:53 PM (JNMaY)

131 FML.
Fuck Me. Latvia.

Posted by: latvia at March 03, 2014 02:53 PM (hn5v5)

132 Atlanteans? Heh.

Buncha quitter fags.

Posted by: Average Wraith Clone at March 03, 2014 02:54 PM (J6JcG)

133 Now if Putin would only go after the countries ending in Stan

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 03, 2014 02:54 PM (HVff2)

134 Hitler was on an upper/downer cycle and surrounded by sycophants. Think of Jim Jones or Elvis with arguably the greatest war machines of their day at their beck and call. I think Hitler would have believed in the tooth fairy if one of his mystics had told him it was real and no one would have dared question him in his belief. Putin on the other hand seems more like a calculating opportunist who believes the Russian people to be the master race. Does anyone else wonder if maybe the Russians aren't the only ones who lied in the Memorandum? Could the Ukraine possibly have some tactical nukes sitting somewhere in a bunker? Yuriy Sergeyev seems pretty sure they can win this.

Posted by: bestie21 at March 03, 2014 02:54 PM (N2nqi)

135 125 Wait the Jooos are Atlanteans? I'm going to need a a chart to figure this out. Posted by: alexthechick

That's what the Jooos want you to think, they actually finance the Atlantean's economic system, and control their media.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 03, 2014 02:54 PM (hn70M)

136

They welcomed the Nazis....until the einsatzgruppen showed up and started killing lots of...Ukranians!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2014 06:46 PM (QFxY5)

Like they say, better the devil you know. The Nazis were determined to destroy the Ukranian unter-menschen, they just wanted to use them first. Just like Stalin tried 8 years earlier to destroy the Ukrainians.

And in reply to the nazis, the Communists started killing or deporting anyone they suspected of collaboration.

Posted by: rd at March 03, 2014 02:55 PM (D+lxs)

137 Is this where the line is forming? Posted by: France at March 03, 2014 06:51 PM (roTS7) BREAKING NEWS: France Surrenders To Russia http://tinyurl.com/kqw2462

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 03, 2014 02:55 PM (GEICT)

138 Steevy, #30: "No doubt it will be called a " far right" ideology." You beat me to it. Of course they will be far-right or even "ultraconservative" (as the NYT referred to Stalinists after Stalin), because the style guide defines the bad guys anywhere, in any context, as on the right. A corollary: Since they call themselves "anti-liberal," our left will proudly say that anyone who opposes US-style liberalism is just like these guys. Sort of the American Taliban principle.

Posted by: JPS at March 03, 2014 02:55 PM (9ziuC)

139 the elephant in the room is that the Atlanteans are kinda dicks.

Posted by: X at March 03, 2014 02:56 PM (KHo8t)

140 BREAKING NEWS: France Surrenders To Russia Their version of a preemptive strike...

Posted by: Insomniac at March 03, 2014 02:57 PM (UAMVq)

141 Posted by: alexthechick SMODlings ho! at March 03, 2014 06:52 PM (Gk3SS)

Of course not. Look at the cave drawings....they aren't circumcised.

But we do own their banks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 03, 2014 02:57 PM (QFxY5)

142 I tend to believe (although I don't know him personally) that Putin is an amoral, utilitary authoritarian who is strongly nationalist. I picture him as espousing whatever beliefs he needed to to gain power, but my guess is the man believes very little.

Posted by: Bevek Lemelisk at March 03, 2014 02:57 PM (Eflez)

143 I'm telling you; they're coming ashore at the Pas de Calais.

Posted by: adolf's psychic at March 03, 2014 02:58 PM (hn5v5)

144 Â“liberalismÂ” (by which is meant the entire Western consensus) represents an assault on the traditional hierarchical organization of the world.... Well, duh. The default organization of mankind is the patriarchal clan. It gets writ large and small but it's always the strong ruling. Classical liberalism is in a perpetual and probably losing war with civilizationinal entropy.

Posted by: toby928© is not, contrary to popular belief, the Lindbergh baby at March 03, 2014 02:59 PM (QupBk)

145 Why the hell is Merkel telling the NYT that Putin is not in touch with reality? Even if you think that why make it public?

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 02:59 PM (RJMhd)

146 Actually I think this Russian guy who got expelled is just redoing L. Ron's schtick.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 03, 2014 02:59 PM (GKbOt)

147 >>>142 Putin does believe Obama is a worthless easy pushover piece of shit. Just sayin.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 03, 2014 02:59 PM (HVff2)

148 Re: Mixes the Best Parts of Marxism, Naziism - I thought again of an old line from Dennis Miller (in another context): "You know, I view this in much the same way I view a potential Dean Martin - Jerry Lewis reconciliation: I was never fond of their previous work, and I'm not sure I need to see the new shit just yet."

Posted by: JPS at March 03, 2014 02:59 PM (9ziuC)

149 The Tennessee Cohen tried to join the Congressional Black Caucus but decided against it when the members of the caucus let it be known they would reject him.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 03, 2014 02:59 PM (YgTB4)

150 This is a crock... Putin is rather easily understood, you don't need weird conspiracy philosophies. He is a student of RUSSIAN history... and a Realist... as well as a Russian Nationalist. As much as he would LIKE to bring back communism, he knows it does not work in the real world... so he embraced a wild west version of Capitalism... the same wild west capitalism that made the US Great (read our history, re the Great industrialists... who were NOT nice men)... Just as he embraced Religion... because while it is the opiate of the masses... it is a NEEDED Opiate... He is also encouraging the Russian people to procreate... so they will not be bred out of existence... as he sees happening in Europe... Just like he wants a Strong military... unlike Obama... and will USE it to protect his own borders... (having the EU on his border is NOT a good thing in his opinion...). Nothing mysterious... no need for Atlantean crap.... just a Russian Nationalist who is a realist.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 03, 2014 02:59 PM (84gbM)

151 Wait a minute! DrewM said it was just a "customs union", and now its a mix of fascism and marxism?

Posted by: MTF at March 03, 2014 02:59 PM (F58x4)

152 So how can a good farmer, son of the soil like me identify someone who is of the water- the Atlantean type? I'm thinking there will be clues, and I'm willing to stereotype if need be. Ethel Waters, Veronica Lake, Phillip Rivers, Billy Ocean? All Atlanteans. Vince Gill? definitely Atlantean.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 03, 2014 03:00 PM (g4TxM)

153 divided Mankind into ace-men Aha!

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 03, 2014 03:01 PM (/Gd5e)

154 What the worlds leaders need to know is that Putin is making his own reality. It will be very effective for him.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 03, 2014 03:01 PM (jucos)

155 Um, yeah . . . Stephen Cohen is the creepy looking dude who spawned a daughter when he was in hi "hippie days." Blech. Why does the Democrat Party attract creepazoids like him and Henry Waxman?

Posted by: logprof at March 03, 2014 03:01 PM (X3GkB)

156 The EU will be run by the muzzies in less than a century, so then we could have a nice race/religion war. But this time it's the Nazis vs the muzzies instead of as allies.

The faces change, but the game remains the same.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 03, 2014 03:01 PM (wNF3N)

157 151 Wait a minute! DrewM said it was just a "customs union", and now its a mix of fascism and marxism? Posted by: MTF at March 03, 2014 06:59 PM (F58x4) *snort* He also said that who was president right now didn't have much impact on the way Russia is behaving.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 03, 2014 03:01 PM (GEICT)

158

This is where I started to think, "There's no way Putin believes this."

And where I started to think, "Fuck yeah Putin believes this."

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 03, 2014 03:01 PM (qIFL7)

159 Putin does believe Obama is a worthless easy pushover piece of shit. Just sayin.

Obama's still smarter than me!

Posted by: Sen McCain (D)[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 03, 2014 03:02 PM (P7Wsr)

160 Russia is in Asia, no?

Posted by: navybrat at March 03, 2014 03:02 PM (AW7Gr)

161 Well, duh. The default organization of mankind is the patriarchal clan. It gets writ large and small but it's always the strong ruling. Classical liberalism is in a perpetual and probably losing war with civilizationinal entropy. Posted by: toby928Â© is not, contrary to popular belief, the Lindbergh baby at March 03, 2014 06:59 PM (QupBk) That is the most astute observation I have read on these threads in quite some time, and it is exactly right. The NORM for human civilization is the strong man (Alpha Dog) form of government. What the founders did was to create a different system, and one which has been under constant attack by the other form of government (and civil entropy) ever since.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 03:02 PM (bb5+k)

162 What if you live inland on an island and farm but can see beach in any direction?

Posted by: Beagle at March 03, 2014 03:03 PM (sOtz/)

163 Why does the Democrat Party attract creepazoids like him and Henry Waxman? Posted by: logprof at March 03, 2014 07:01 PM (X3GkB) *********** They lure them with eau de patchouli.

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 03:03 PM (RJMhd)

164

This is where I started to think, "There's no way Putin believes this."[\quote]

experiment

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 03, 2014 03:03 PM (qIFL7)

165 Nothing mysterious... no need for Atlantean crap.... just a Russian Nationalist who is a realist. Posted by: Romeo13 at March 03, 2014 06:59 PM (84gbM) Agree. They have half the population of the USA, lost 20 million in WWII, and have a shitload of nukes they are never going to surrender -- because they learned from history. Keeping the countries on their borders in line isn't some outrageous concept. I don't think I'd give a shit if the USA crossed the border into Mexico and killed some people that needed killing.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at March 03, 2014 03:04 PM (CnA98)

166 Eurasia was the group in 1984. Obama will put us in the Oceania group soon. Then the Chinese just need to grab Eastasia.

Posted by: Bevek Lemelisk at March 03, 2014 03:04 PM (Eflez)

167 >>>162 What if you live inland on an island and farm but can see beach in any direction? still a dick

Posted by: X at March 03, 2014 03:04 PM (KHo8t)

168 R A Heinlein had a concept for that in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress".

I thought that was ... "What are we going to do? Throw Rocks?"

Posted by: Paladin at March 03, 2014 03:05 PM (7TBE3)

169 DrewM isn't the sharpest toll in the shed.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 03, 2014 03:05 PM (hn70M)

170 Putin does believe Obama is a worthless easy pushover piece of shit. Just sayin. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 03, 2014 06:59 PM (HVff2) As Gerard Vanderleun (American Digest) put it: "...Indeed, it would seem that the only group on the planet that are afraid of this putz are D.C. Republicans. And I'm not too sure about them any longer."

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 03:05 PM (bb5+k)

171 Yeah Waterhouse, Ace-Men - yeah you Morons - are the Aryan ideal...

*thud*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 03, 2014 03:06 PM (GKbOt)

172 BC I must throw a flag France surrenders is not breaking news.

Posted by: alexthechick SMODlings ho! at March 03, 2014 03:06 PM (tW0oc)

173 172 BC I must throw a flag France surrenders is not breaking news. Posted by: alexthechick SMODlings ho! at March 03, 2014 07:06 PM (tW0oc) The breaking news isn't the "what", it's the "who".

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 03, 2014 03:07 PM (GEICT)

174 DrewM isn't the sharpest toll in the shed.

Posted by: Dr Spank

Wah-wah.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 03, 2014 03:08 PM (Y/M/K)

175 What happened to Bib??

Posted by: Judge Pug at March 03, 2014 03:08 PM (6Nj7A)

176 "Does anyone else wonder if maybe the Russians aren't the only ones who lied in the Memorandum? Could the Ukraine possibly have some tactical nukes sitting somewhere in a bunker?"

Pretty much what these events are underscoring for every minor power is this:

Do you have nukes? No? You better GET some nukes. Pronto.

Pakistan behaves horribly all the time and fucks over the USA in particular at every turn. Yet the previous three administrations have all treated Pakistan with kid gloves and enormous deference. Why? They have nukes.

North Korea is a batshit crazy little satrapy, but when Pyongyang issues yet another one of its long loopy communiques, the rest of the world pays attention. And there's no chance of the regime being externally ousted by force. Why? They have nukes.

Meanwhile, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Georgia and Ukraine have been casually pushed around by outsiders. Because none of them had working nukes.

Don't have a nuke? Get one. Simple as that. Connect the dots.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 03, 2014 03:08 PM (gqT4g)

177 @167 Virtuous inland dick or Atlantean troublemaker dick?

Posted by: Beagle at March 03, 2014 03:09 PM (sOtz/)

178 Nothing mysterious... no need for Atlantean crap.... just a Russian Nationalist who is a realist. Posted by: Romeo13 at March 03, 2014 06:59 PM (84gbM) That is how I see it too. It is also interesting that you argue Religion is needed. Though I'm not religious myself I regard this as correct. There is also a demographic consequence to abortion and sex for fun instead of reproduction. I think Putin is all too aware of the road towards irrelevancy that Russia has been on while it languished under communist inspired despair.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 03:09 PM (bb5+k)

179 Face it. We are the Master Ace and should rule the blogosphere. First: Hot Air.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 03, 2014 03:10 PM (hn5v5)

180 " but then was expelled because of his involvement with mystic neo-Nazi groups" Great, he's the villain from the first Indiana Jones movie, or maybe the Red Skull. Put a double guard on that warehouse where the Ark of the Covenant is stored.

Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at March 03, 2014 03:10 PM (XZWie)

181 Kerry used the opportunity to respond to criticism by certain officials in Israel that he is "obsessive" about the negotiations because he wants to win a Nobel Peace Prize: "This isn't about me. This is about the dreams of Israelis and the dignity of Palestinians." ??? Dignity of the Palestinians? Then maybe they should build real schools ( Not midrassas) instead fo bombs?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 03:11 PM (t3UFN)

182 There is also a demographic consequence to abortion and sex for fun instead of reproduction. I think Putin is all too aware of the road towards irrelevancy that Russia has been on while it languished under communist inspired despair. Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 07:09 PM (bb5+k) --There are Russian women who have had 20 abortions, but no children. That whole country is fucked (in more ways than one).

Posted by: logprof at March 03, 2014 03:11 PM (X3GkB)

183 Misanthropic Humanitarian got it right. "Uncle Joe" was no better than Hitler.

Posted by: burt at March 03, 2014 03:11 PM (1+kJ5)

184 Nevergiveup re: Kerry.

Fatima on her son Achmed, "He detonated in such a dignified way. Did you see how his spleen landed on that Israeli?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 03, 2014 03:12 PM (GKbOt)

185 You can bet those guys that always want to take off their shirts and pose for manly photos like Mussolini and Putin always have the Master Race Card up their sleeve!

Oh, wait...

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 03, 2014 03:12 PM (qIFL7)

186 @179 The Invasion of Hot Air: Operation Blogerossa

Posted by: Beagle at March 03, 2014 03:12 PM (sOtz/)

187 Hahahaha....Slappy and his gang o'thieves are out of their element on this one. "From Finland as far as the Black Sea, Forwards! Forwards! Forward to the West, you storming Russian Army! Freedom is the Goal! Victory is the Banner! Putin gives the order, We will follow!" Hahahaha...time to change the diaper Barry.

Posted by: IrishEd at March 03, 2014 03:12 PM (bfm04)

188 183 Misanthropic Humanitarian got it right. "Uncle Joe" was no better than Hitler. Posted by: burt at March 03, 2014 07:11 PM (1+kJ5) I tried telling those sonsabitches, but did they listen? No, of course not!

Posted by: Gen. Patton at March 03, 2014 03:13 PM (UAMVq)

189

Putin's ultimatum to the Ukranian troops trapped in Crimea expires in a few more hours.

Will this be looked at as the beginning of WWIII? Or will they gloss over this, and concentrate on the Chinese-Phillipines War that starts next year?

Posted by: rd at March 03, 2014 03:13 PM (D+lxs)

190 New Mexico GOP Gov. Susana MartinezÂ’s Gay Hairdresser Refuses To Continue Cutting Her Hair Over Her Opposition To Gay MarriageÂ… Weasel Zippers: ??? So this fag can refuse services to someone because of what they think, but that baker can't?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 03:13 PM (t3UFN)

191 Putin seems to me like a classic imperialist, that's all.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:14 PM (MLwNA)

192 Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 07:09 PM (bb5+k) re religion... yup... you don't have to believe in a religion to see how it affects society.... either pro or con... Which is why I fully support Christianity... although I don't consider myself a Christian... and why I condemn the entire religion of Islam... Because of the EFFECTS they have on their societies.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 03, 2014 03:14 PM (84gbM)

193 189 Putin's ultimatum to the Ukranian troops trapped in Crimea expires in a few more hours. I think I'll turn in early tonight. Tee time will be here before you know it!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at March 03, 2014 03:14 PM (UAMVq)

194 No leaks yet on the obama/ Netanyahu meeting. Must have been bad

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 03:15 PM (t3UFN)

195 --There are Russian women who have had 20 abortions, but no children. That whole country is fucked (in more ways than one). Posted by: logprof at March 03, 2014 07:11 PM (X3GkB) Socialism/Atheism comes at a horrible price paid by a nations future. I have read that the current Russian crackdown on homosexuality is likewise motivated by a desire to turn around the bad demographics. Russia needs "Breeders."

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 03:15 PM (bb5+k)

196 191 Putin seems to me like a classic imperialist, that's all. Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 07:14 PM (MLwNA) Putin has expanded his borders about what.... 11 Kilometers in Georgia... and now retaking what was part of Russia for hundreds of years... While the EU has expanded its territory over 3 Fold since its creation... Expansionist?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 03, 2014 03:15 PM (84gbM)

197 Nevergiveup.

Perhaps they are still trying to tug Gaylord out of his fetal position.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 03, 2014 03:16 PM (GKbOt)

198 Was coming back to work from a Home Depot run and the news came on the radio. According to ABC news there are some L.A. Gangbangers fighting on the government's side in Syria. I don't have time to look it up right now but it should be on their website. Supposedly there is a You Tube video.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 03, 2014 03:16 PM (b+sPe)

199 194 No leaks yet on the obama/ Netanyahu meeting. Must have been bad Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 07:15 PM (t3UFN) If he'd just get those filthy Jooz out of the West Bank, we'd have peace in the Middle East!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at March 03, 2014 03:16 PM (UAMVq)

200 I forgot about that. Eurasia gave us Rosanna, didn't they? And Africa, ya?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:16 PM (MLwNA)

201 152 Sea-mus sounds Atlantean. Just saying'.

Posted by: Mindy at March 03, 2014 03:16 PM (RMfGb)

202

North Korea is a batshit crazy little satrapy, but when Pyongyang issues yet another one of its long loopy communiques, the rest of the world pays attention. And there's no chance of the regime being externally ousted by force. Why? They have nukes.

Meanwhile, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Georgia and Ukraine have been casually pushed around by outsiders. Because none of them had working nukes.

Don't have a nuke? Get one. Simple as that. Connect the dots.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 03, 2014 07:08 PM (gqT4g)

See I am not so Crazy after all!!!!

And I will feed your uncle to the dogs next!

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at March 03, 2014 03:16 PM (D+lxs)

203 There are Russian women who have had 20 abortions, but no children.

Source?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 03, 2014 03:17 PM (P7Wsr)

204 Wasn't that a cheesy science fiction film or something? Aliens from a red place kidnapping Earth women.

Russia Needs Women!

Anna Chapman can't do it alone!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 03, 2014 03:17 PM (GKbOt)

205 ??? So this fag can refuse services to someone because of what they think, but that baker can't? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 07:13 PM (t3UFN) We are putting up with shit nowadays that would have caused armed conflict back in the 1970s or even 1980s. I expect it might anyways at some point. They Gaystapo will never stop pushing.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 03:18 PM (bb5+k)

206 "20 I don't know about the whole Atlantean thing, but Putin sure does love him some power. Posted by: Insomniac"

Saying that in a country that had BO as President certainly tickles my irony bone.

Posted by: West at March 03, 2014 03:18 PM (gtiZk)

207 ??? So this fag can refuse services to someone because of what they think, but that baker can't? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 07:13 PM (t3UFN) Because she won't sue.

Posted by: Vendette at March 03, 2014 03:18 PM (MpP9p)

208 in order to believe that kind of crazy you need imagination...putin has none

Posted by: runner at March 03, 2014 03:18 PM (yrk2K)

209 I hate Putin because the right side of his face is black and the left side of his face is white, whereas the right side of my face is white and the left side of my face is black.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:18 PM (MLwNA)

210 207 ??? So this fag can refuse services to someone because of what they think, but that baker can't? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 07:13 PM (t3UFN) Only teh gheys have rights. Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 03, 2014 03:19 PM (UAMVq)

211 Probably should've done this long ago, but maybe it's time to get Mossad on uncovering some of the JEF's sealed records.

Posted by: Bibi Netanyahu at March 03, 2014 03:19 PM (UIxS+)

212 Which is why I fully support Christianity... although I don't consider myself a Christian... and why I condemn the entire religion of Islam... Because of the EFFECTS they have on their societies. Posted by: Romeo13 at March 03, 2014 07:14 PM (84gbM) You have just articulated my own position. I don't think it's a coincidence that (Till recently) the most advanced societies on earth were the Christianized parts of the world. Stability engenders advancements and prosperity.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 03:19 PM (bb5+k)

213 Does anyone else wonder if maybe the Russians aren't the only ones who lied in the Memorandum? Could the Ukraine possibly have some tactical nukes sitting somewhere in a bunker? Yuriy Sergeyev seems pretty sure they can win this.

The question would then be would they pull the trigger? Some tatical nukes that are a "Secret", aren't a deturant. It's just a "Sucker Punch" to get in a shot before you get your ass kicked.

Posted by: Paladin at March 03, 2014 03:20 PM (7TBE3)

214 200 I forgot about that. Eurasia gave us Rosanna, didn't they? And Africa, ya? Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 07:16 PM (MLwNA) ********** I think you are thinking of Toto.

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 03:20 PM (RJMhd)

215

124 116 110 92 Poland,

Fucking tell me about it...

//Finland
---------------
///Norway

Is this where the line is forming?

Don't forget us!

Posted by: The Netherlands and Belgium at March 03, 2014 03:20 PM (KjBTQ)

216 Because she won't sue.

Posted by: Vendette at March 03, 2014 07:18 PM (MpP9p)

The right never resorts to lawfare, more's the pity. We will regret this in the very near future!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 03:20 PM (o3MSL)

217 Only teh gheys have rights. Didn't you get the memo? Posted by: Insomniac at March 03, 2014 07:19 PM (UAMVq) Used it for toilet paper

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 03:21 PM (t3UFN)

218 190 >> Weasel Zippers:

>> ??? So this fag can refuse services to someone because of what they think, but that baker can't?

NGU, I just wonder if the hairdresser can see the irony in his decision. I hope Jan sues him to make him serve her. that would complete the circle nicely.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 03, 2014 03:21 PM (wNF3N)

219 Re: the New Mexico hairdresser. Did not click on the link but it seems a Muslim barber refused to cut the hair of a lesbian.

I so hate when special interest groups collide. Not.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 03, 2014 03:21 PM (GKbOt)

220 "Either you believe in me and learn, or you will be treated as the enemy."
--Austian engineer Hans Horbiger, father of Welteislehre, to rocketeer Willy Ley, on being challenged on the math of the universe being made of ice.

Millions of people believed in it, here and abroad, at the beginning of WWI; it became the official cosmogony of the young NSDAP, but got pushed over so far into the wacky corner that even the Party admitted you could be a good Nazi without buying it.

It certainly seems to include a lot of Global Warming rhetoric, though.

Now, a lot of us "believe" in string theory, or quantum mechanics, so we should be careful in our judgements -- but, Nazi or not, people were looking into a lot of crazy shit not long ago at all.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 03, 2014 03:21 PM (xq1UY)

221

Putin has expanded his borders about what.... 11 Kilometers in Georgia... and now retaking what was part of Russia for hundreds of years...

While the EU has expanded its territory over 3 Fold since its creation...

Expansionist?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 03, 2014 07:15 PM (84gbM)

You evil White Europeans took over an entire continent.

(And made something out of it)

Posted by: Too many college professors at March 03, 2014 03:21 PM (D+lxs)

222 Toto?? hahaha, yeah, I am!

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:21 PM (MLwNA)

223 When I was taking Russian literature, my professor said the easiest way to understand the Russian love for the Motherland and her people is Christocentric. Not that they are Christian but that they read their history as that of the suffering servant, martyrdom for future glorification. And love for country is on par with love of God. Now this prof may well have been off his rocker...

Posted by: RagamuffinB at March 03, 2014 03:21 PM (88ley)

224 203 There are Russian women who have had 20 abortions, but no children. Source? Posted by: bonhomme at March 03, 2014 07:17 PM (P7Wsr) Read between the lines: During the 2000s, Russia's steadily falling population (due to both negative birthrates and low life expectancy) became a major source of concern, even forcing the military to curtail conscription due to shortages of young males. On 21 October 2011, the Russian Parliament passed a law restricting abortion to the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, with an exception up to 22 weeks if the pregnancy was the result of rape, and for medical necessity it can be performed at any point during pregnancy.[1] The new law also made mandatory a waiting period of two to seven days before an abortion can be performed, to allow the woman to "reconsider her decision".[1] Abortion can only be performed in licensed institutions (typically hospitals or womenÂ’s clinics) and by physicians who have specialized training. The physician can refuse to perform the abortion, except the abortions for medical necessity.[1] According to the Criminal Code of Russia (article 123), the performance of an abortion by a person who does not have a medical degree and specialized training is punishable by fine of up to 80,000 RUB; by a fine worth up to 6 months of the convicted's income; by community service from 100 to 240 hours; or by a jail term of 1 to 2 years. In cases when the illegal abortion resulted in the death of the pregnant woman, or caused significant harm to her health, the convicted faces a jail term of up to 5 years. Recent efforts[edit] The abortion issue has gained renewed attention in 2011 in a debate that the New York Times says "has begun to sound like the debate in the United States".[19] Parliament passed and President Dmitri Medvedev signed several restrictions on abortion into law to combat "a falling birthrate" and "plunging population".[19] The restrictions include requiring abortion providers to devote 10% of advertising costs to describing the dangers of abortion to a woman's health and make it illegal to describe abortion as a safe medical procedure. Medvedev's wife Svetlana Medvedeva has taken up the pro-life cause in Russia in a weeklong national campaign against abortion called "Give Me Life!" and a "Day of Family, Love and Faithfulness" by her Foundation for Social and Cultural Initiatives in conjunction with the Russian Orthodox Church.[19] Statistics[edit] Despite a significant reduction in the abortion to birth ratio since the mid-1990s, the countries of the former Soviet Union maintain the highest rate of abortions in the world. In 2001, 1.31 million children were born in Russia, while 2.11 million abortions were performed.[20] In 2005, 1.6 million abortions were registered in Russia;[4] 20% of these involved girls under the age of 18.[21] Official statistics put the number at 989,000 in 2011,[4] though Russian pro-life activists say that number is much higher.[19] As of 2010, the abortion rate was 37.4 abortions per 1000 women aged 15-44 years, the highest of any country reported in UN data.[2] Abortion statistics were considered state secrets in the Soviet Union until the end of the 1980s.[22] During this period, the USSR had one of the highest abortion rates in the world. The abortion rate in the USSR peaked in 1965, when 5.5 million abortions were performed, the highest number in RussiaÂ’s history. Nevertheless, the legalization of abortion did not fully eliminate criminal abortions. [E.A. Sadvokasova]

Posted by: logprof at March 03, 2014 03:22 PM (X3GkB)

225 Wait, maybe I'm thinking of Styx??

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:22 PM (MLwNA)

226 I don't think it's a coincidence that (Till recently) the most advanced societies on earth were the Christianized parts of the world. Stability engenders advancements and prosperity. Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 07:19 PM (bb5+k) I read an article a while ago on Christianity Today about a PhD candidate who studied missionary activity (I believe mostly in Africa) and the status of those areas today. The areas that had Protestant missionaries that were not supported by governments are leaps and bounds ahead of anyone else. I'll try to find that article and link it.

Posted by: Vendette at March 03, 2014 03:23 PM (MpP9p)

227 Probably should've done this long ago, but maybe it's time to get Mossad on uncovering some of the JEF's sealed records.

Posted by: Bibi Netanyahu at March 03, 2014 07:19 PM (UIxS+)

That's probably what it would take, although I would bet that the FSB already has copies!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 03:23 PM (o3MSL)

228 You evil White Europeans took over an entire continent. (And made something out of it) Posted by: Too many college professors at March 03, 2014 07:21 PM (D+lxs) As did the Jews with a Desert. They made it bloom.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 03:23 PM (bb5+k)

229 Gnu, Jan's in AZ, this is NM, so, Susana Martinez, no?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 03, 2014 03:23 PM (xq1UY)

230 225 Wait, maybe I'm thinking of Styx?? Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 07:22 PM (MLwNA) ***** Toto, dude.

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 03:24 PM (RJMhd)

231 Although I always get Asia mixed up with Yes. pffffttttttt.

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 03:25 PM (RJMhd)

232 Here's what's really cookin: obama and his mainstream media ministry are recreating the Cold War to give us something to occupy our time during the '14 elections. No thanks. I already experienced the Cold War once.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:25 PM (MLwNA)

233 Why is GOP Rep. Rohrabacher going on Russia Today to defend Putin? Tom Nichols ‏@TheWarRoom_Tom This floors me. MT @joshuafoust: prominent defender of Russia right now is GOP cong Dana Rohrabacher Andrew A. Michta ‏@andrewmichta @TheWarRoom_Tom @joshuafoust And of all places on Russia Today...? What was it Lenin said about "useful somethings"in the West?-

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 03, 2014 03:25 PM (ZPrif)

234 In the occult world, Hitler would have been considered a "deist", not a member of an organized occult group. Yeah, Himmler and the other wacky deputies, totally. Goering was totally different. He didn't believe any of that crap; he was also extremely intelligent whose fluent enough not to need an interpret at Nuremburg but used one anyway to buy time to formulate an answer. I think part of the dichotomy is that the rabble (Himmler, et al.) hadn't done much in life -- Himmler was a chicken farmer for awhile -- whereas Goering was a legit WWI flying ace and until he got fat, fairly charismatic. He didn't need occult to "get a life".

Posted by: SFGoth at March 03, 2014 03:25 PM (jBsrg)

235 Probably should've done this long ago, but maybe it's time to get Mossad on uncovering some of the JEF's sealed records.

They've been sterilized. IF they exist, they're in the back of a vault, and the only records are fakes.

Thanks for the info logprof.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 03, 2014 03:26 PM (P7Wsr)

236 219 Re: the New Mexico hairdresser. Did not click on the link but it seems a Muslim barber refused to cut the hair of a lesbian. I so hate when special interest groups collide. Not. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 03, 2014 07:21 PM (GKbOt) Now if we can only get them to confront each other, the consequences would be delicious. It would be like that Robot on Star Trek given the conundrum of Spock Lying about lying. The media would find itself so conflicted it would short circuit. On the other hand, it would probably just avoid covering the whole thing, because there isn't a "Win" in there for them at all.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 03:26 PM (bb5+k)

237 Only decent Toto song was-- Hold the line which given the current topic....

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 03:26 PM (RJMhd)

238 @228 Now it makes sense. I always heard they made it "Blum."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 03, 2014 03:27 PM (xq1UY)

239 joshuafoust ‏@joshuafoust The most prominent defender of Russia right now is Dana Rohrabacher, whoÂ’s defended Putin on state-owned Russian TV

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 03, 2014 03:27 PM (ZPrif)

240 We'll, at least it leaves out the JOOS--does? BTW, are we sure this is more insane than pretend hockey sticks and hating plant food?

Posted by: AtParisParamus at March 03, 2014 03:27 PM (U0ZD3)

241 And as you can see, many on the Right are sinking their teeth right into this Cold War-esque mess. Meanwhile, obama, who gives no shit, will fan the flames to keep the fire going as long as he can. It's all bullshit.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:27 PM (MLwNA)

242 More importantly is that we are witnessing what can happen with government corruption attempting to subdue a people. And it seems to be a global trend and may be further exacerbated when the European banks and economies finally fail. Now I would feel better about this if we had a patriotic government as we have stood against tyranny before. But we don't anymore. We have a government and Oval Office that is just as intent to seize power as Putin's intent. We have a government that does not promote freedom but disregards our own constitution. Both parties. Both parties are allowing a 17 trillion dollar debt to go unresolved. We are only spending more. You want to accuse me of wearing the tinfoil hat? Then you tell me Mr. Progressive how we will continue to further exacerbate the debt which is already most likely non resolvable and things will turn out just fine in the end. That is like me telling you the tidal wave is far out at sea, has been noted and is approaching and you looking at the ocean calm and telling me you don't want to leave the beach. The tsunami doesn't care---it is still coming whether you see it yet or not. And by the time you do see it, it will be too late. When we do finally collapse as the laws of economics state we must then what happens? Here is a test case to look at. Katrina. And they seized guns from the law abiding. Blood should have already been spilled over that. Try that in Montana or Wyoming sometime. Blood will be spilled. Just like, let's see----Kiev. Power is power. You have global powers that wish for global control now. Including in the United States. It doesn't really matter whether it is from another country in Crimea or our own federal government crossing into Wyoming. I predicted what will happen in my own fiction. Fiction based on what has already happened. In history. And history is a sage that tends to repeat itself. So do I think we will have World War III to save the world from tyranny starting in Crimea? No. I think across the world it will be free peoples fighting their own governments for the natural right of freedom. And I think we are going to see that strife in America very soon. Charles Hurst. Author of THE SECOND FALL. An offbeat story of Armageddon. And creator of THE RUNNINGWOLF EZINE

Posted by: charleshurstauthor at March 03, 2014 03:29 PM (RWM7e)

243 Rohrabacher is the GOP who claims he arm-wrestled Putin and fawned over strong and muscular Putin was. Odd.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 03, 2014 03:29 PM (ZPrif)

244 >> Gnu, Jan's in AZ, this is NM, so, Susana Martinez, no?

Ah crap, Stringer -- yeah you're right. I got my western female gubners all confused.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 03, 2014 03:29 PM (wNF3N)

245 Which is why I fully support Christianity... although I don't consider myself a Christian... and why I condemn the entire religion of Islam...

Because of the EFFECTS they have on their societies.

Find any prison Chaplain and ask him/her about the Christian converts vs Muslim converts. How have they changed?

They'll tell you that most of the Christian converts are fundamentally changed, at least for a while.

They'll also tell you that most of the Muslim converts stay the same, angry person they always were, but their language changes.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 03, 2014 03:29 PM (P7Wsr)

246 Too bad Tom Clancy is dead. He'd be loving this right now.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:29 PM (MLwNA)

247

As did the Jews with a Desert. They made it bloom.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 07:23 PM (bb5+k)

And roused the righteous indignation of the poor aboriginals.

Oops, sorry, ........ the mighty Arab civilization

Posted by: Too many college professors at March 03, 2014 03:29 PM (D+lxs)

248 Does anyone else wonder if maybe the Russians aren't the only ones who lied in the Memorandum? Could the Ukraine possibly have some tactical nukes sitting somewhere in a bunker? Yuriy Sergeyev seems pretty sure they can win this. Wow Ukraine unleashing a nuke at Russia? Hello WWIII

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 03:30 PM (zOTsN)

249 Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 07:27 PM (MLwNA) Ewwww.... we don't even have to 'wag' the dog... and we get our distraction anyway!!!

Posted by: Obama Whitehouse. at March 03, 2014 03:31 PM (84gbM)

250 Posted by: charleshurstauthor at March 03, 2014 07:29 PM (RWM7e) Like.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 03:32 PM (bb5+k)

251

Too bad Tom Clancy is dead. He'd be loving this right now.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 07:29 PM (MLwNA)

I think he wrote a book about it before he died.

Posted by: Didn't he write about flying a jet into the Capitol? at March 03, 2014 03:32 PM (D+lxs)

252 Did not click on the link but it seems a Muslim barber refused to cut the hair of a lesbian. I so hate when special interest groups collide. Not.
It was in Toronto and the Ontario Human Rights Commission refused to publicly release their decision in the matter with both parties agreeing to a gag order. It seems the OHRC acted as a genuine mediator between the two parties in this case instead of fining the shit out of the barber and getting his licence revoked as they undoubtedly would have done to a Christian barber.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 03, 2014 03:32 PM (hn5v5)

253 Later folks. Gotta go.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 03, 2014 03:34 PM (bb5+k)

254 This one time, I got my hands on a pilfered copy of the builderbergers' secret agenda. They were making double-doubles and snubbing the minimum wage help.

Posted by: Fritz at March 03, 2014 03:34 PM (UzPAd)

255

Does anyone else wonder if maybe the Russians aren't the only ones who lied in the Memorandum? Could the Ukraine possibly have some tactical nukes sitting somewhere in a bunker? Yuriy Sergeyev seems pretty sure they can win this.

Wow

Ukraine unleashing a nuke at Russia?

Hello WWIII

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 07:30 PM (zOTsN)

Good Bye Ukraine

Posted by: time to build a fallout shelter at March 03, 2014 03:34 PM (D+lxs)

256 HeyÂ….I think I found a pic of AtC. Took some digging but, I believe, successÂ…Â… http://tinypic.com/r/2vil9xt/8

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 03, 2014 03:34 PM (GEICT)

257 58 the Nazis 'arose' ( or descended ) out of Germany losing the war, being occupied by foreign troops for twelve years afterwards, widespread hunger after the war, the crisis of 1923 wiping out most people's savings....usw
but then, with all that, they only got a third of the vote, barely more than the KPD, so Social Chaos only takes you so far.
Posted by: Freddy Neet-sche

Not correct. In 1932 Hitler did get about 33%, but the KPD got about 1/2 that; the SPD got about 20%. In the biggie of 1933, Hitler crushed the field, getting 44%. Here's the thing. *WE* see these as losers' #s because we, essentially, have a 2-party system. 1992 Perot was an enormous historical anomaly. In a multi-party system (14 in 1933), 44% might as well be 88% because you're going to be able to cobble together a majority long enough to pass an Enabling act.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 03, 2014 03:36 PM (jBsrg)

258 BC, link did not work for me?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 03:36 PM (o3MSL)

259 >>>Did not click on the link but it seems a Muslim barber refused to cut the hair of a lesbian. I so hate when special interest groups collide. Not.<<<

No no no, come back. I'll take a just little off the top... I promise.

Posted by: Muslim barber, sharpening his scimitar at March 03, 2014 03:36 PM (UIxS+)

260 251 Too bad Tom Clancy is dead. He'd be loving this right now.Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 07:29 PM (MLwNA) I think he wrote a book about it before he died. Posted by: Didn't he write about flying a jet into the Capitol? at March 03, 2014 07:32 PM (D+lxs) Yes and yes.

Posted by: Adam at March 03, 2014 03:37 PM (Aif/5)

261 This isn't a new Cold War. It's rapidly becoming a new hot war.

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 03:37 PM (zOTsN)

262 We should definitely open our borders to educated Russian women under age 30.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 03, 2014 03:37 PM (jBsrg)

263 Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 07:37 PM (zOTsN)

I think we will all soon be longing for the good old days of the Cold War.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 03:38 PM (o3MSL)

264 200 I forgot about that. Eurasia gave us Rosanna, didn't they? And Africa, ya?Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 07:16 PM (MLwNA)
You got lost in the heat of the moment.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 03, 2014 03:39 PM (YgTB4)

265 I don't think Putin thinks of the people talked about in the article as anything more than yet another batch of useful idiots for his nationalism. However, I've heard it from people I trust that he does hold grudges against the West for things going back to the Venetian invasion of Constantinople back in the Middle Ages. And I recently slogged through a bunch of 'cliff's notes on what's happening in the ukraine' from someone who sees themselves as Christian orthodox but Catholics as Frankish non-Christians... so basically, there's all sorts of wierd shit out there, that Putin may or may not believe, but he can use the believers.

The KGB had control of the ordination process of the Orthodox Church in Russia for some 70 odd years, that's bound to leave a mark of some kind.

They probably have macros in their word processing files for producing the Protocols of the Elders of {The Franks | The Americans | Zion | Bildebergers | Khazars | Those Guys That Killed Kenny on South Park} ready to go.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at March 03, 2014 03:40 PM (kwc/t)

266

6 pm local news says Russian Troops pouring across the Ukrainian border, as John Kerry flies into Kiev.

I can just see Putin presiding over a meeting between Kerry and the NEW Ukrainian President Tomorrow.

Posted by: time to build a fallout shelter at March 03, 2014 03:41 PM (D+lxs)

267 Turns out the Christianity Today article I was referring to earlier is now under subscription, as are other references about how Protestant missionaries pretty much are the reason for liberal democracy in various parts of the world, particularly Africa. For info about the author, Robert Woodberry, and various links, go here: http://tinyurl.com/lggmt3h

Posted by: Vendette at March 03, 2014 03:41 PM (MpP9p)

268 You got lost in the heat of the moment. I miss the '80's!

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:41 PM (MLwNA)

269 Ukraine unleashing a nuke at Russia?

Hello WWIII

pretty sure russia knew how many they stored on ukraine's territory .

Posted by: runner at March 03, 2014 03:42 PM (yrk2K)

270 I don't know, SF Goth. From the "how to pick up chick" sites (sorry; I've forgotten the real name for these "player" sites) I've occasionally read, Russian babes are supposed to be real psychos. Screw but do not long-term date.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 03, 2014 03:42 PM (hn5v5)

271 PUA sites?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:43 PM (MLwNA)

272

We should definitely open our borders to educated Russian women under age 30.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 03, 2014 07:37 PM (jBsrg)

Doing my best.

Posted by: Meet Hot Young Russian Women Today! at March 03, 2014 03:43 PM (D+lxs)

273 I forgot all about that PUA shit by "Tyler Durden." That was real big back 10 yrs ago. They had their bullshit down to a scientific steb-by-step manual.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:45 PM (MLwNA)

274 Yes, that's it. Pick-Up Artists.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 03, 2014 03:45 PM (hn5v5)

275 263 Hrothgar, Those of you worried about a cold war don't..... Look there is no way the US left, the media, WhoreEwood et al including Giggles let's us fire up the engine of the Arsenal of Democracy...... It's over we lost, something even shit beats nothing and we are a whole lot of nothing these days. Obama will pretend "I sure showed him" the media will Baghdad Bob his ass and FreeShit Army will get his Obamafo. Haggle will continue destroying our military and slowly the world will cut its deals with China or Russia as world cop. We lost and we chose to lose.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 03:45 PM (TE35l)

276 You guys wouldn't mind if we lashed Lurch to our gates for when the Russian forces try to run storm through?

Nah of course not, you'd probably do it yourselves if you could.

Posted by: Ukrainian sailors trapped in their Crrimean base at March 03, 2014 03:45 PM (UIxS+)

277 246 Clancy already scripted this. The only thing he had wrong was the names.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 03:45 PM (ojnk6)

278

I don't know, SF Goth. From the "how to pick up chick" sites (sorry; I've forgotten the real name for these "player" sites) I've occasionally read, Russian babes are supposed to be real psychos. Screw but do not long-term date.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 03, 2014 07:42 PM (hn5v5)

Drink More Vodka, ignore the Fetal Alcohol Syndrome

Posted by: Meet Hot Young Russian Women Today! at March 03, 2014 03:46 PM (D+lxs)

279 I mentioned Clancy as a joke because I forgot he was really dead.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:47 PM (MLwNA)

280 Nazism, it will be recalled, was an abbreviation for National Socialism. National Bolshevism, therefore, put itself forth as an ideology that relates to National Socialism in much the same way as Bolshevism relates to Socialism. Questions, Idiot LIbEralS?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 03, 2014 03:49 PM (IRXU0)

281 I'm still alive!!!

Posted by: abe vigoda at March 03, 2014 03:49 PM (hn5v5)

282

Clancy already scripted this. The only thing he had wrong was the names.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 07:45 PM (ojnk6)

No, in my book, freedom and the US wins.

Posted by: Zombie Tom Clancy, crying for his nation at March 03, 2014 03:49 PM (D+lxs)

283 obama is sending kerry to Kiev? I am sure they would rather have a few tanks and planes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 03:49 PM (t3UFN)

284 runner: All of the Ukraine nukes were turned over to Yeltsin, when Bill Clinton promised to guarantee their security.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 03, 2014 03:50 PM (c6N69)

285 You guys wouldn't mind if we lashed Lurch to our gates for when the Russian forces try to run storm through? Nah of course not, you'd probably do it yourselves if you could. Posted by: Ukrainian sailors trapped in their Crrimean base at March 03, 2014 07:45 PM (UIxS+) Just give him medals to throw over the fence. He'll be fine.

Posted by: Vendette at March 03, 2014 03:50 PM (MpP9p)

286 How do you take a seventy-year old man who looks as plastic as Joan Rivers seriously?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 03:51 PM (MLwNA)

287 263 I think we will all soon be longing for the good old days of the Cold War. Posted by: Hrothgar at March 03, 2014 07:38 PM (o3MSL) Yeah. About that: http://www.jrnyquist.com/ Read the three essays linked at the top first.

Posted by: rickl at March 03, 2014 03:51 PM (sdi6R)

288 >>>obama is sending kerry to Kiev? I am sure they would rather have a few tanks and planes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 07:49 PM (t3UFN)<<<

Nope. Those are ours now. We love you, Bammy.

Posted by: IRS, EPA, HHS, etc. at March 03, 2014 03:51 PM (UIxS+)

289 282 True enough, your book had a U.S. President and Advisors that were worth a shit.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 03:52 PM (ojnk6)

290 We should definitely open our borders to educated Russian women under age 30.
Posted by: SFGoth at March 03, 2014 07:37 PM (jBsrg)

Hater.

Posted by: Anna Kournikova at March 03, 2014 03:52 PM (6TB1Z)

291 268 I miss the '80's!

Heck, I miss the '70's!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 03, 2014 03:52 PM (YgTB4)

292 282 Zombie Tom Clancy, You wrote fairy tales about an Intel group and civil servants interested in exterior threats not domestic opponents. MIss you big guy.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 03:53 PM (TE35l)

293 KNICKS playing the Pistons. Gee the Pistons are big slow and can't shot. They suck as much as the Knicks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 03:53 PM (t3UFN)

294 270 I don't know, SF Goth. From the "how to pick up chick" sites (sorry; I've forgotten the real name for these "player" sites) I've occasionally read, Russian babes are supposed to be real psychos. Screw but do not long-term date.
Posted by: andycanuck

You have to consider the swamp you're trolling in. I'd happily take my chances with this crowd: http://tinyurl.com/mpcys22

Posted by: SFGoth at March 03, 2014 03:54 PM (jBsrg)

295 I miss the '80's! Heck, I miss the '70's! Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 03, 2014 07:52 PM (YgTB4) I peaked in the 60s

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 03:54 PM (t3UFN)

296 Hardest hit? Southern Poverty Law Center who released their "hate" map today. Seems the biggest threat to US interests are right wingers and the KKK

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 03:54 PM (zOTsN)

297 This goes with the Eurasianism theory Along the drifting cloud the eagle searching down on the land Catching the swirling wind the sailor sees the rim of the land The eagle's dancing wings create as weather spins out of hand Go closer hold the land feel partly no more than grains of sand We stand to lose all time a thousand answers by in our hand Next to your deeper fears we stand surrounded by a million years

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 03:55 PM (RJMhd)

298 1992 Perot was an enormous ~~historical anomaly~~ Fucking asshole. Thanks, jackass.....you set us on this path.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 03, 2014 03:55 PM (IRXU0)

299 Watching the Knicks play the Pistons is like watching a bunch of old men playing pick up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 03:56 PM (t3UFN)

300 Did ya'll hear. The budget that TFG is going to send to Congress next week is going to support.. Wait for it.. MILLIONS of jobs.

Posted by: RWC at March 03, 2014 03:58 PM (MtC8f)

301 Russian babes are supposed to be real psychos.

I haven't known many. The one I did know well was a total babe and a sweetheart ... until she got drunk. Then she wanted to fight with you about American interventionism.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 03, 2014 03:58 PM (P7Wsr)

302 Or this- Ah, ah, We come from the land of the ice and snow, From the midnight sun where the hot springs flow. The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands, To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming! On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore. Ah, ah, We come from the land of the ice and snow, From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow. How soft your fields so green, can whisper tales of gore, Of how we calmed the tides of war. We are your overlords. On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore. So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins, For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing.

Posted by: tasker at March 03, 2014 03:58 PM (RJMhd)

303 297 ThunderB, To the left we are.... The key is the hesitant LIV follower do they take cold war version 2.0 more seriously than the Moonbat Fairy Tale? Inertia says not yet and by the time they do it'll be too late. Sorry to be a downer but we're mocked for notwanting our already trained and equipped forces cut deeper. In the immortal words of Jon Stewart Voter Frit Plover "go away 'batin!"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 03:59 PM (TE35l)

304 Objection: "Eurasian" means someone who has one European parent and one Asian parent. Don't be turning it into shorthand for some whackadoodle cult thing.

Posted by: votermom at March 03, 2014 03:59 PM (2vAl9)

305 Any word on penis riot?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 03, 2014 04:00 PM (Q8vlx)

306 Wonderful. Can leftists now stop pretending fascism is a product of the right?

Posted by: NotCoach at March 03, 2014 04:00 PM (GI5b7)

307 Kerry to AIPAC: America will not fail Israel Like we are failing everyone else and pay no never mind to both kerry and obama threatening you with boycotts and selling you down the river

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 04:00 PM (t3UFN)

308 OT - Boycott "NonStop"

Go here and you will find out why: http://tinyurl.com/pj3p7jq

The bastards.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 03, 2014 04:00 PM (qIFL7)

309 299 1992 Perot was an enormous historical anomaly

Fucking asshole. Thanks, jackass.....you set us on this path.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC

Really? George Herbert Walker Bush had nothing to do with it? The GHWB who was getting rolled by Congress and totally sucking balls in the campaign?

Posted by: SFGoth at March 03, 2014 04:01 PM (jBsrg)

310 301 RWC, As opposed to the boom a wave of "Fuck you Putin its on like Donkey Kong" and muzling EPA and the Goreons would unleash Fuck SCOAMF

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 04:01 PM (TE35l)

311 Really? George Herbert Walker Bush had nothing to do with it? The GHWB who was getting rolled by Congress and totally sucking balls in the campaign? Posted by: SFGoth at March 03, 2014 08:01 PM (jBsrg) Oh he had a lot to do with it, but all polls I have seen say the great majority of Perot's supporters would have gone for Bush

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 03, 2014 04:03 PM (t3UFN)

312 302 Bonhomme, The ones I knew back in the 90s were ok. Hard drunks, but who isn't?

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 04:03 PM (TE35l)

313 Did ya'll hear. The budget that TFG is going to send to Congress next week is going to support.. Wait for it.. MILLIONS of jobs. Posted by: RWC at March 03, 2014 07:58 PM (MtC8f) If it's like every other budget he's sent to Congress, it will receive zero votes in favor. Zilch. None. Nada. That includes the Democrats in both the House and Senate. Plus his budget is about a month late. Not that he cares.

Posted by: Vendette at March 03, 2014 04:04 PM (MpP9p)

314 We from the Planet Brundage will crush the Urantians!

Posted by: zombie at March 03, 2014 04:05 PM (mizYg)

315 If it's like every other budget he's sent to Congress, it will receive zero votes in favor. Zilch. None. Nada. That includes the Democrats in both the House and Senate.

Republican obstructionism!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 03, 2014 04:05 PM (P7Wsr)

316 Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 08:01 PM (TE35l) It has something to do with transportation. High speed rail in every pot?

Posted by: RWC at March 03, 2014 04:06 PM (MtC8f)

317 313
Really? George Herbert Walker Bush had nothing to do with it? The GHWB who was getting rolled by Congress and totally sucking balls in the campaign?
Posted by: SFGoth at March 03, 2014 08:01 PM (jBsrg)

Oh he had a lot to do with it, but all polls I have seen say the great majority of Perot's supporters would have gone for Bush Posted by: Nevergiveup

Right, if Bush hadn't been so Bush. Perot didn't take votes from Bush -- Bush gave them to Perot. I voted for Perot -- I certainly wasn't going to vote for either Clinton or Bush; they both disgusted me, but then again, even at the tender age of 25, I knew the difference between debt and deficit.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 03, 2014 04:06 PM (jBsrg)

318 316 Zombie, Ba-Rawn-Ko has electrolytes.... I sorta welcome the dark age.. I'm tired of billionaires telling me lies are truth and tuth are lies.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 04:07 PM (TE35l)

319 O'Reilly is an asshat He thinks Germany will financially destroy Russia. Never mind they get most their natural gas from Russia. He is stupid That is all

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 04:09 PM (zOTsN)

320 318 RWC, Heh they do like their pipedreams. Figur he'll outlaw cars and mandate wind powered trains...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 04:09 PM (TE35l)

321 Follow the alpaca fur. It wasn't the Atlanteans. It was the Peruvians.

Posted by: Deep Throat at March 03, 2014 04:09 PM (8ZskC)

322 321 ThunderB, Strategic energy resources how the fuck do they work?

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 04:10 PM (TE35l)

323 Republican obstructionism! Posted by: bonhomme at March 03, 2014 08:05 PM (P7Wsr) The only kind in existence...

Posted by: The Democrats at March 03, 2014 04:10 PM (MpP9p)

324 O'Reilly is as fucking stupid as Pissy Mathews. It's a race to the bottom for those two assclowns.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 03, 2014 04:10 PM (Q8vlx)

325 All we need now is for the crisis to be resolved by a summit between Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama and the "reasonable man" Putin. The end result will be . . . Russians stay in the Crimea but there is a pledge from Putin not to go any farther. I see Obama walking down the steps of Air Force One with a piece of paper, talking about "peace in our time." History really does repeat itself, but is this tragedy or farce?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 03, 2014 04:12 PM (HubSo)

326 325. Yep With racism tossed in too of course

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 03, 2014 04:12 PM (NoHJ8)

327 O'Reilly is friends with Costas. He is gonna have him on tonight to justify NBCs Olympic coverage.

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 04:13 PM (zOTsN)

328 HeyÂ….I think I found a pic of AtC. Took some digging but, I believe, successÂ…Â… http://tinypic.com/r/2vil9xt/8 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 03, 2014 07:34 PM (GEICT) *shiftyeyes* I have no idea what you're talking about. *shiftyeyes*

Posted by: alexthechick - c'mon SMOD at March 03, 2014 04:13 PM (Gk3SS)

329 326 Chavez the Hugo, Quite I don't know how our side got saddled with O'shamrock as "our leader" but he's a fucking retard on econ and Mil strategy.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 04:13 PM (TE35l)

330 Good God. Just sat through the O'Reilly segment referenced above. That man's stupid holds no fucking bounds. He is absolutely operating off a contact-buzz from Barry.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 03, 2014 04:14 PM (6/+vz)

331 O'Rielly still putting his name on every damn thing? I have never seen anyone with 'Factor' gear.

Posted by: RWC at March 03, 2014 04:14 PM (MtC8f)

332 332 There's a reason the only Fox reporter that the JEF will sit down with is Bill O.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 03, 2014 04:15 PM (ojnk6)

333 Sven he can't be on our side can he? I think he's a fucking chameleon or shape shifting lizard dude.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 03, 2014 04:16 PM (Q8vlx)

334 333 O'Rielly still putting his name on every damn thing? I have never seen anyone with 'Factor' gear. Posted by: RWC at March 03, 2014 08:14 PM (MtC8f) Prolly all in nursing homes

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 04:16 PM (zOTsN)

335 333. I have never seen anyone with 'Factor' gear. ***hides Factor underoos***

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 03, 2014 04:16 PM (NoHJ8)

336 nood

Posted by: soothsayer at March 03, 2014 04:17 PM (MLwNA)

337 OT, but is anyone else haunted by the image of a "nood ewok" thread? Not that there is one, I'm just wondering.

Posted by: Piercello at March 03, 2014 04:17 PM (jJ97i)

338 Heh. I summoned one.

Posted by: Piercello at March 03, 2014 04:18 PM (jJ97i)

339 ***hides Factor underoos*** Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 03, 2014 08:16 PM (NoHJ You would. I mean, you openly wear Bears gear. Who knows the depravity you would sink to.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 03, 2014 04:18 PM (GEICT)

340 Good Friggin' Gawd. Now O'Reilly is arguing with Brit Hume that Barry still has the stroke to bring Putin to heel. Hume's reply is pretty much "Are You Kidding Me ?". And now we know why Barry agreed to that Super Bowl interview.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 03, 2014 04:19 PM (6/+vz)

341 Factor gear ends up in third world shitholes after a typhoon,earthquake or some other disaster. I have never seen any factor shit anywhere in my life.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 03, 2014 04:19 PM (Q8vlx)

342 ***hides Factor underoos*** Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 03, 2014 08:16 PM (NoHJ

They'd better be in blue and gold.

Posted by: Vendette at March 03, 2014 04:20 PM (MpP9p)

343 306 Any word on penis riot?Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 03, 2014 08:00 PM (Q8vlx)
Pussy Riot to open for Penis Riot at the Hard Rock Cafe in Crimea.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 03, 2014 04:22 PM (YgTB4)

344

"O'Reilly is as fucking stupid as Pissy Mathews. It's a race to the bottom for those two assclowns."

And I know two Republican LIV's who love O'Reilly. They're blue-collar and completely taken in by his "I'm looking out for the little guy" BS.

Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at March 03, 2014 04:23 PM (R3gO3)

345 335 Chavez the Hugo, He's always ben a lib...he acts lke a "populist conervative" to pay the bills... He thinks he and Ogabe are peers. I have never lied O'Rilly

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 04:24 PM (TE35l)

346 Costas who gives a shit what he thinks about Putin

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 04:26 PM (zOTsN)

347 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CommieNazis Too bad they don't allow Real Life examples.

Posted by: Simon Oliver Lockwood at March 03, 2014 04:26 PM (9N6OT)

348 Costas thinks he got picked on by conservatives Boo hoo Put on your big boy pants

Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 04:27 PM (zOTsN)

349 I haven't seen Mara Eliason in a while. Jeez, what a face lift -her skin's been pulled so tight, her eyes are popping like Marty Feldman's. I remember reading that Liberace had so many face lifts, eventually he had to sleep with one of those eye masks on because he couldn't keep his eyes shut, they'd pop open. I'd say Eliason is there.

Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at March 03, 2014 04:28 PM (R3gO3)

350 350 ThunderB, Costas is gonna love it if/when we're ever ascendant again. I want sport fuckers who think they're really political reporters' balls on the floorboard.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 03, 2014 04:29 PM (TE35l)

351

Put on your big boy pants Posted by: Thunderb at March 03, 2014 08:27 PM (zOTsN)

For Costas that would be size 6T.

Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at March 03, 2014 04:30 PM (R3gO3)

352 52 The Soviets (except maybe the first wave of Bolsheviks) were never 'true' Marxist/Communists. The Bolsheviks were perhaps the original 'useful idiots," and were quickly killed/purged/silenced by the Soviets, especially when Stalin came to power. He and subsequent Soviet leaders were pure-and-simple authoritarians who mainly mouthed the Communist codewords and cynically rode the communist/populist wave to whatever success they achieved before they collapsed their economy. Barack Obama is much, much closer to being a 'real' Communist ideological true believer than Vlad Putin, IMHO. Posted by: filbert at March 03, 2014 06:36 PM (roTS7) Second, actually, after the Mensheviks. Ahh, good times. I'll confirm you are right with the rest of your thesis, but, off the record.

Posted by: Leon Trotsky at March 03, 2014 04:31 PM (jfUIE)

353 So now Russia is the new Nazi? Conservatives of all people should be immune to the left calling someone they don't like Nazi's.

Posted by: Jimmy at March 03, 2014 04:32 PM (7us0J)

354 >>>Factor gear ends up in third world shitholes after a typhoon,earthquake or some other disaster.<<<

Yaaaay!!! New clothes from America.

Awww, shit! It's Factor Gear and Denver Broncos Super Bowl Champ gear.

I'll pass.

Posted by: some starving kid in a shack, wearing shredded clothes at March 03, 2014 04:32 PM (UIxS+)

355 So now Russia is the new Nazi? Conservatives of all people should be immune to the left calling someone they don't like Nazi's. Posted by: Jimmy at March 03, 2014 08:32 PM (7us0J) Congrats on showing up to the end of the thread and congrats on not knowing your political spectrum.

Posted by: Vendette at March 03, 2014 04:34 PM (MpP9p)

356 Oh he had a lot to do with it, but all polls I have seen say the great majority of Perot's supporters would have gone for Bush Nah. Perot's appeal was to the 3rd of the economy (at that time) devoted to manufacturing. Those people knew that both Bush and Clinton fully intended to sell their jobs down the river to China. When both major parties suck to people dependent on their livelihood on manufacturing, a third party run was their only chance on keeping their jobs. So Bush lost, Clinton won. The Perot voters would have been just as fucked if Bush won, Clinton lost.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at March 03, 2014 04:36 PM (CnA98)

357 This stuff is like Louis Farrakhan Territory with less Melanin and Muslim.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at March 03, 2014 04:50 PM (dvRYt)

358 I like Atlantis... and the people who live there. I also like farmers, granddad was a farmer, and other inland people. I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit! ... it's the only way to be sure!

Posted by: and irresolute at March 03, 2014 06:10 PM (RqHWH)

359 I just can't believe that the JEF and his 'handlers' let themselves(as brilliant as they imagine themselves to be), get painted into this corner.
The JEF likes to talk tough, as all he has to do is "say the words" and things happen, Although, he actually has 'not a fucking clue as to how things work'.

He releases pictures of him 'takin' it to Vlad' on the phone.
What a "Tough" president!

We have what, 35,000 - 50,000 troops in shitcanistan?
They, and their equipment can get out through Russia, or Pakistan.
(Our ally, Pakistan, nuked and sponsors of the Taliban, yeah, them).

Our astronauts on the ISS are going to get home, how?

Where do we get Titanium???

The Euronaughts are no better-off.
Well, NATO should rise-up and stop this!
It's WINTER and your GAS for heat/power/light comes from Russian gas through Ukraine.

Putin planned this very well.
When The Ukraine president ran on going with the EU, got elected, then got a better deal from Putin, the "Peasants are Revolting!", Yeah, they stink on ice...

When the 'coup' happened, Vlad felt his assets in Ukraine were at risk.
Unlike Obama, he is a nationalist and loves his country.

Vlad has ALL the cards here. Obama and the Euros painted themselves into a corner. Putin is not stupid. Obama is...

Posted by: ChrisP at March 03, 2014 06:18 PM (Z6lrM)

360 Wait! Wait, I have an idea! ... lets talk about Palestine instead! ... swing those cameras around boyz, .. get some grimy faced kids with "Fuck You America" T-shirts on and Kalashnikov's hanging around their necks and just put this Ukraine thing onto the back pages where we neeeed it to be. Hope and no change. Oh hurry Hillary, save us, you are our only hope!

Posted by: and irresolute at March 03, 2014 06:18 PM (RqHWH)

361 Paging Lord Cardigan Â…

Posted by: The Night Manager at March 03, 2014 06:25 PM (G7Yr9)

362 How about "East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere"?

Posted by: Hirohito' Ghost at March 03, 2014 06:38 PM (AIC5Z)

363 This guy's assessment of Eurasianism reads like one of those fundie evangelical rants about how the government is filled with freemasonic space alien illuminati annunaki. For one thing:" which looks exactly like a Nazi flag, with a red background surrounding a white circle, except that the black swastika at the center is replaced by a black hammer and sickle." The red,black, and white colors are the universal flag colors for ALL nationalists. Nationalists do not, as a group, follow the theories of Adolf Hitler. Nationalists,as a whole, are basically staunch conservatives of the traditional variety. Adolf Hitler was a lefty. He was a vegetarian and animal rights activist. I have no doubt he had great love for his country, but he was not a nationalist governor so much as a socialist in the same vein as Pol Pot, Che Guevara, or Mao Tse-tung, as you can tell from his hobbies and penchant for extermination. Most democracies have flags with at least blue and red or blue and white colors, monarchies usually have flags with some gold in them, nationalist flags are red,black,and white. Even nationalists who fought AGAINST Adolf Hitler,and there were a few. The Atlantean thing is completely wrong. Dugin calls the U.S. and U.K. "Oceania". Not Atlantis. The stuff about mixing Nazism and Communism and antidisestablishmentarianism and what-have-you is nothing more than a flight of fancy on the part of this NR guy.

Posted by: Zarathustra at March 04, 2014 05:27 AM (XkOul)

364 There's a coupla History Channel docs, "Last Secrets of the Axis" and "Samurai and the Swastika" that detail the writing of Karl Haushofer which will drive this home. Substitute reconstitution of the USSR, complete with hegemony over Europe, for Germany and rapprochement with Red China for Japan and you have our current situation

Posted by: formwiz at March 04, 2014 07:28 AM (3rwvI)

365 "evil, cunning agents of Atlantis" NuckinFutz is not a valid reason to ignore a threat... --- Zarathustra@365 If this guy is so far out there, what's the goal of spreading this meme? I'm seeing the *idea* - if not the exact approach - in many places. [actual question seeking info/ideas]

Posted by: Running Hobo at March 04, 2014 08:38 AM (l1oyw)

366 Sometimes people shop for an ideology to fit their needs, not the other way round. Crazy killers, for example, often have "political reasons" that simply are their excuse to kill people. Its their way of rationalizing it. So, Putin could have latched onto this guy more to explain away his personal goals - maybe he gets a kick out of old-timey empire building. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History#The_World-Island_and_the_Heartland Is that any different from Mahan's theory?

Posted by: sexypig at March 04, 2014 08:57 AM (dZQh7)

367 Today's celebrity birthdays: Raibeart Ruadh MacGriogair (a.k.a. Rob Roy MacGregor) Cpl. Rene Gagnon (USMC) Willard Scott (80 today)

Posted by: Gran at March 07, 2014 03:23 AM (mw0FO)

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