April 03, 2014

More on Morell
— Ace

I'm just getting to this. I had no idea these hearings were so explosive.

That's because I read the American Media.

I just got an email from CBS calling Benghazi a "local crime story." Also, any allegations of a White House cover-up campaign to deceive the public on Benghazi is also a "local crime story."*

This Bret Baier panel begins with a clip of Michelle Bachman telling Morrell that he himself made most of the changes in the Talking Points "for" the White House.

Steven Hayes notes that Morell had previously denied "coordinating" with the White House on the talking points -- stating that he had just provided the talking points to the White House for purposes of "awareness" -- but not testifies he delivered them for "final coordination" with the White House.

This Fox report (of course it's Fox; who else would report?) has video of Morell's testimony.

[H]e did confirm that he overruled guidance from the CIA chief of station in Libya that the attacks were "not/not an escalation of protests."

Morell, explaining his decision, effectively challenged the evidence his chief of station brought to the table in his message, sent via email a few days after the attack. He said the claim that there was no protest was based only on "press reports" and reports from officers who arrived in Benghazi after the attack had already started.

He said that basis was not "compelling" enough.

Still, Morell explained that when he received the email from the CIA chief of station, he recognized the "discrepancy" between what he was saying and what other analysts were saying. He said he quickly had his analysts "revisit their judgment" that a protest was underway -- but "based on a totality of the information available to them, they stuck with their initial conclusions."

The testimony was met with skepticism in some corners. One source who was on the ground in Benghazi that night questioned the claims.

"Why would he ever believe that people who weren't there hold credence [over] those of us that were...and even his own respected Chief of Station?" the source said. "It [makes] no sense."

Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, R-Mich., repeatedly pressed Morell on the flawed talked points and accused the administration of using them for political purposes.

Morell also answered questions about Beacon Globan Strategies.

The former CIA boss also fielded questions about Beacon Global Strategies, the firm he later went to work for, and Washington's revolving door. The company is led by people close to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as well as the former staff director for the intelligence committee.

Morell said his first discussions with the company about working for them began in November, four months after he left his job.

Another Fox report (of course) notes this:

According to a source with first-hand knowledge of events, during a secure video conference call two days after the Sept. 11, 2012 attack, Morell told the team in Libya that there was intelligence a demonstration preceded the assault. Fox News is told that based on communications with CIA headquarters, the chief of station understood as early as Sept. 13, 2012, that the burden was on him to prove that there was no protest.

The burden of proof was on the station chief to prove that Morell's "protest" story was false.

Morell, meanwhile, is also appearing for public testimony after facing accusations by Republicans of misleading lawmakers over his role in the talking points. He initially claimed the talking points, before Rice's interview appearances, were provided to White House officials for awareness and not for their input. Emails later released show administration involvement began at the earliest stages, and Morell personally cut 50 percent of the text.

Emphasis added.

Morell also claimed to not have seen Ambassador Rice's false claim that a YouTube video spurred the attacks, and did not even read about them until days after the appearance.

REP. JEFF MILLER, R-FL: What was your reaction when you saw her explanation about what happened?

MORELL: I did not see her on the Sunday shows, as I said --

MILLER: You have never seen -- you have never seen --

MORELL: I did not see her on the Sunday shows, as I said. And it was probably days later that I read what she said on the shows.

MILLER: And what was your reaction when you finally did?

MORELL: My reaction was two-fold. One was that what she said about the attacks evolving spontaneously from a protest was exactly what the talking points said, and it was exactly what the intelligence community analysts believed. When she talked about the video, my reaction was, that's not something that the analysts had attributed this attack to.

Uh-huh.

Krauthammer and others note that when Clapper was asked who changed the talking points, Morell was sitting right next to him. When Clapper claimed that he didn't know who changed them, Morell remained silent. He characterizes this as a deliberate effort to mislead Congress -- or permit them to be misled.

I'm sure CBSNews' new correspondent Michael Morell will have all sorts of input into this story.


* In case this isn't clear: Any statement that "I just got an email from [Important Newsmaker X]" is a joke. I have used this set-up a lot.

If, one day, an Important Newsmaker really does email me (doubtful), I will say something like "No, I'm serious this time, I actually got an email."

All other claims of getting emails and phone calls from VIPs and major corporations are jokes.


Posted by: Ace at 09:21 AM | Comments (331)
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1 Others have been sommoned.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2014 09:25 AM (bdnIz)

2 What?

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 03, 2014 09:25 AM (GgPam)

3 *summond. Damn phone keyboard.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2014 09:26 AM (bdnIz)

4 So the question I'm asking is,   where are the perjury charges?   And how many people can we expect to see frog-walked to the nearest federal lockup in orange jumpsuits?   And just where the hell was Obama on      9/11/2012?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 09:26 AM (4df7R)

5 This Bret Baier panel begins with a clip of Michelle Bachman telling Morrell that he himself made most of the changes in the Talking Points "for" the White House. I watched the hearing. Bachman was on fire yesterday questioning Morrell.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 03, 2014 09:27 AM (bCEmE)

6 And just where the hell was Obama on 9/11/2012? Ask Reggie.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 03, 2014 09:27 AM (bdnIz)

7 Morrell sat next to Clapper while...

You know one would think there is enough information at this point to put the screws to everyone and find out WHO ordered the "non stand down "
stand down order.

we can only guess as Obama was said to be getting his beauty rest so He could go party the next day in Las Vegs with the stars!

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 09:28 AM (nqBYe)

8 Morrell, why am I suddenly reminded of a quote from David Weber and Eric Flynt's new book Cauldron of Ghosts?

Oh yes, Victor Cachet thought Shakespeare had said "first kill the bureaucrats."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 09:28 AM (1cFNy)

9 So who's idea was the bullshit about the YouTube video? Rice or Hillary?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 03, 2014 09:29 AM (8ZskC)

10 in other news, the price of borsch has risen 3 percent in Sebastopol since Crimea voted to rejoin the Russian Motherland. Do you really expect CNN and other major AMERICAN news outlets to report on everything that happens anyplace else in the world?
Coming up next: our hard hitting investigation into Republican plants at Citi field riling up the fans against Mayor De Blassio and how it relates to the Koch Brothers and the Citizens United decision.

Posted by: mallfly at April 03, 2014 09:29 AM (bJm7W)

11 At least they got that Nakoula guy off the streets.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 03, 2014 09:29 AM (+lsX1)

12 also who decided no security assistance would be forthcoming when asked for by Stevens / Smith.

and who was supposed to have Met or met  with Stevens that night and why

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 09:29 AM (nqBYe)

13 re 9: must have been Rice, I doubt Hillary is capable of any original thought.

Posted by: mallfly at April 03, 2014 09:30 AM (bJm7W)

14

 The fact that it occurred on Sept 11 was a total coincidence

 

Pull the other one

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2014 09:30 AM (0Jb7F)

15 .....Morrell told the team in Libya that there was intelligence a demonstration preceded the assault. ===== Who ya gonna believe, yer lyin' eyes watching the compound video of NO DEMONSTRATION whatsoever....or Morrell?!

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 03, 2014 09:30 AM (bCEmE)

16 9 So who's idea was the bullshit about the YouTube video? Rice or Hillary?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 03, 2014 01:29 PM (8ZskC)



I think neither.     That decision's    got the Iranian Rat's stink all over it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 09:31 AM (4df7R)

17 So who's idea was the bullshit about the YouTube video? Rice or Hillary?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 03, 2014 01:29 PM (8ZskC)


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If I were to guess..... it was that googly eyed, bespectacled, long haired ginger dufus that State has for a spokesperson.


Her name escapes me at the moment.... 

Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 09:31 AM (nELVU)

18 Someone needs to ask Scooter Libby what he thinks about the hearings. Lerner and Morell both need to be in prison for all of their lying to Congress, which used to be a crime, even for fucking baseball players.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 03, 2014 09:31 AM (9Bdcz)

19 I tried to read this post. Honest. But I got to the part where CBS called Benghazi a 'local news story' and I couldn't read any more. Hell, I can barely type, I'm so pissed. Our ambassador was murdered and its 'local news'? WTF!? In any sane world, that would be grounds for dropping a missile on the killers. But, noooo, that's too 19th century. Still hoping this is a late April Fool's joke...

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at April 03, 2014 09:31 AM (NSh5j)

20 is the obscure viedo guy free yet?

and i still remember all those hollywood stars thinking He should be killed for Hurting Obama by doing a video.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 09:31 AM (nqBYe)

21 If I were to guess..... it was that googly eyed, bespectacled, long haired ginger dufus that State has for a spokesperson. Her name escapes me at the moment.... Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 01:31 PM (nELVU) Charlene Lamb

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 03, 2014 09:31 AM (bCEmE)

22 this one goes all the way to the top. Not Clinton The Top

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 09:32 AM (zOTsN)

23 This is important, for one, because it could have lead to impeachment proceedings.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 09:32 AM (IXrOn)

24 All of this prevarication and stonewalling proceeds from another failure by this administration.

They consciously decided to not even try a rescue missing because a failure would be bad optics. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 09:32 AM (1cFNy)

25 So, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 03, 2014 09:32 AM (HVff2)

26 I can't help but wonder when we are going to find out what really happened with the Fast and Furious operation. I think it goes right to the top. I also wonder if Ace still thinks it was simple incompetence rather than evil that was the motivation.

Posted by: maddogg at April 03, 2014 09:32 AM (xWW96)

27 Remember, it is the height of spin and manipulation to quote anyone on the Left accurately. Playing video clips of what they actually said and did? CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT Remember, no matter what happens, that's not their bag, baby.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 03, 2014 09:32 AM (mf5HN)

28 21 If I were to guess..... it was that googly eyed, bespectacled, long haired ginger dufus that State has for a spokesperson. Her name escapes me at the moment.... Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 01:31 PM (nELVU) Charlene Lamb Posted by: Tami at April 03, 2014 01:31 PM (bCEmE) Oh wait...are you talking about the State Dept. 'Selfie' chick?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 03, 2014 09:32 AM (bCEmE)

29 What difference, at this point, does it make?    Don't   you all know there are more important things to worry about?   Like   lane closures in NJ and private collections of    Native American    artifacts?   HAVE YOU NO HEART, YOU MONSTERS!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 09:33 AM (4df7R)

30 And now you know why that CIA-Bush interrogation report about 2006 was dragged out of the closet yesterday..

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 09:33 AM (gh7eZ)

31 Actually he was only in the olive oil business with Hyman Roth and he had a lot of buffers....yeah Senator buffers.

Posted by: IrishEd at April 03, 2014 09:33 AM (D0NZx)

32 this one goes all the way to the top. Not Clinton The Top zzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: The MSM, Vigilant Watchdogs of Democracy at April 03, 2014 09:33 AM (8ZskC)

33 Remember, no matter what happens, that's not their bag, baby.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 03, 2014 01:32 PM (mf5HN)



One credit card receipt for a Swedish penis enlarger...



HEY, THAT'S NOT MINE BABY!


Posted by: EC at April 03, 2014 09:33 AM (GQ8sn)

34 fixerupper, Victoria Nuland.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 09:33 AM (1cFNy)

35 He told his station chief to prove he wasn't full of shit?  Wow. 

Posted by: no good deed at April 03, 2014 09:33 AM (ILBCY)

36 he now admits he coordinated with THE WHITE HOUSE that means Jarrett that means JEF

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 09:33 AM (zOTsN)

37 I tried to read this post. Honest. But I got to the part where CBS called Benghazi a 'local news story' and I couldn't read any more. Hell, I can barely type, I'm so pissed. Our ambassador was murdered and its 'local news'? WTF!?


I believe that was ace just pulling our leg, whippersnapper.   No worries. 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 09:34 AM (4df7R)

38 Charlene Lamb

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No .... shes the stoopid old fat Brunette.

The one Im thinking of is younger hipster douche-ish chick.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 09:34 AM (nELVU)

39 This is important, for one, because it could have lead to impeachment proceedings. zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: The MSM, Vigilant Watchdogs of Democracy at April 03, 2014 09:34 AM (8ZskC)

40 Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at April 03, 2014 01:31 PM (NSh5j) I think the "Local News" angle is ace's snark coming to the fore.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2014 09:34 AM (32Ze2)

41 What's the friggin' deal with this emu tied to a lion tied to a raptor tied to something else ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 09:34 AM (NLifn)

42

HARRUMPH HARRUMPH.

Hearing dismissed.

Posted by: The House Commitee on Importan Things at April 03, 2014 09:34 AM (QM5S2)

43 24 All of this prevarication and stonewalling proceeds from another failure by this administration. They consciously decided to not even try a rescue missing because a failure would be bad optics. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 01:32 PM (1cFNy If they came out and said, hey we couldn't get there, we are sorry. This could have been put to bed. But no, they have to squirm and weasel and lie, rinse and repeat. By God, heads need to roll. But, they wont after all he is the Special TFG

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 03, 2014 09:35 AM (HVff2)

44 As much as O'Reilly bugs me, at least he said this: Now, the big picture President Obama was running for re-election when the terrorists hit Benghazi and his campaign was touting his effective policies on terrorism. So there could have been a political motivation to keep terrorists out of the Benghazi debacle. If the Obama administration lied, that's an abuse of power. If the CIA cooperated in the lie, that's an abuse of power. As we all know from Watergate, abuses of power can lead to very bad things. So Benghazi is a big story whether the left wants to admit it or not. Full video at link: http://tinyurl.com/oc7pjhk It's actually pretty good all the way through.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 09:35 AM (IXrOn)

45

I'm so pissed. Our ambassador was murdered and its 'local news'? WTF!?

 

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Protection of the dynasty is far more important than people's lives.  That is why we need to     keep track of the body count from all of the non-stories.

 

So far, the body   count, including Mexican citizens,     is 335.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2014 09:35 AM (0Jb7F)

46 fixerupper, Victoria Nuland.

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no.... Mary Harf.... or something like that.....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 09:36 AM (nELVU)

47 O'Reilly is a blind hog.

Posted by: maddogg at April 03, 2014 09:36 AM (xWW96)

48 right wing whippersnapper, the local crime story thing isn't real.  It's just become the excuse when you don't hear a peep about something damaging to a democrat or one of their pet causes.  It stems from the Gosnell trial when it wasn't covered by the MSM because it was "just a local crime story."

Posted by: no good deed at April 03, 2014 09:36 AM (ILBCY)

49 re rescue mission Hell no they were too busy typing up nondisclosure agreements for any survivors to sign this isnt a White House, its a law firm and dead men tell no tales

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 09:37 AM (zOTsN)

50 I think the "Local News" angle is ace's snark coming to the fore. Benghazi is local, if you live in Qar Yunis.

Posted by: CBS News, Where Murrow Worked and Stuff at April 03, 2014 09:37 AM (8ZskC)

51 Where was he? Sleeping like a baby, with a similar lack of conscience.

Posted by: ejo at April 03, 2014 09:37 AM (GXvSO)

52 It is easier to replace 4 Americans in Benghazi than to reprimand the administration.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 03, 2014 09:37 AM (HVff2)

53 fixerupper....this chick? http://tinyurl.com/obr2atl

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 03, 2014 09:38 AM (bCEmE)

54 Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at April 03, 2014 01:31 PM (NSh5j) It's just Ace being Ace. Take a deep breath, and smile.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 09:38 AM (IXrOn)

55 And by the way, has anyone confirmed that all of Libya's mustard gas and enriched uranium are accounted for?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 09:38 AM (1cFNy)

56 35 He told his station chief to prove he wasn't full of shit? Wow.

Posted by: no good deed at April 03, 2014 01:33 PM (ILBCY)



Right?  


I mean, can you imagine the gall?


MORELL:  We have it on good authority that a protest preceded the attack.


STATION CHIEF:  I'm sorry, sir, but that simply isn't the case.


MORELL:  We have it on good authority, chief.


SC:  Whose authority, if I may ask?


MORELL:  Our men on the ground in Libya.


SC:  ...That would be me, sir.  Me and my people. 


MORELL:  Yes.


SC:  ...And you're saying that    we   told you there was a protest before the attack.


MORELL:   That's correct.


SC:  Even though   there wasn't.


MORELL:  There was.  I have it on good authority-


SC:  Yes, sir,    I get it.


MORELL:  Good.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 09:38 AM (4df7R)

57 O'Reilly is a blind hog. Posted by: maddogg at April 03, 2014 01:36 PM (xWW96) lol I'm laughing out loud and I don't even know what that mean. ahahaha But, yea, I agree.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 09:39 AM (IXrOn)

58 I can't figure out why they're clinging to this idiotic story. It reminds me of The Maltese Falcon when Spade comes up with this ridiculous tale and tells Mr Cairo to hold to it no matter what when the cops talk to him.
What on earth do they gain by it? Why not just say "ah, it was confusing at first, we had a lot of conflicting information and rumors, so people were guessing and conjecture got out there more strongly than it should have. What we now know is..."
But sticking with the stupid protest over a video line? Idiotic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 03, 2014 09:39 AM (zfY+H)

59 When I rewrite the Constitution there will be a section about a dungeon with stocks, manacles and genital-eating worms for people like Morell. Good little automaton he is, he'd have done a great job for Molotov.

Posted by: JEM at April 03, 2014 09:39 AM (o+SC1)

60 When I was getting that stick rammed up my ass you were sure as Hell paying attention to Libya.

Posted by: Zombie Qaddafi at April 03, 2014 09:39 AM (gOoFi)

61 Morrell, c'est Chateaux General oui?

"I do not care what you say about ze trenches!  We attack!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 09:40 AM (1cFNy)

62 The Harry Reid (Pederast - NV) theory of testifying.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 03, 2014 09:40 AM (BHdAm)

63 Posted by: Tami at April 03, 2014 01:38 PM (bCEmE)

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The other one ..... Marie Harf....

Tho I dont think highly of Paski either....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 09:40 AM (nELVU)

64 Exactly, MWR!  It makes me wonder if the same station chief had any "performance evaluations" after that or perhaps a few lie detector tests to keep him in line. 

Posted by: no good deed at April 03, 2014 09:40 AM (ILBCY)

65 >>> I tried to read this post. Honest. But I got to the part where CBS called Benghazi a 'local news story' and I couldn't read any more. Hell, I can barely type, I'm so pissed. Our ambassador was murdered and its 'local news'? WTF!? that part was a joke.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2014 09:40 AM (/FnUH)

66 When I rewrite the Constitution there will be a section about a dungeon with stocks, manacles and genital-eating worms for people like Morell. Morrell is just the kind of go-getter we look for here at CBS News.

Posted by: CBS News, Where Murrow Worked and Stuff at April 03, 2014 09:40 AM (8ZskC)

67 I will hold my thoughts until I see him in yoga pants

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 03, 2014 09:41 AM (DXfAK)

68 57 O'Reilly is a blind hog. Posted by: maddogg at April 03, 2014 01:36 PM (xWW96) lol I'm laughing out loud and I don't even know what that mean. ahahaha But, yea, I agree. Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 01:39 PM They come upon an occasional acorn. Or a broken clock is right twice a day.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 03, 2014 09:41 AM (HVff2)

69 What on earth do they gain by it? Why not just say "ah, it was confusing at first, we had a lot of conflicting information and rumors, so people were guessing and conjecture got out there more strongly than it should have. What we now know is..." But sticking with the stupid protest over a video line? Idiotic. Posted by: Christopher Taylor Ego Morrell knows what they said wasnt by accident it wasnt due to error ego prevents him from telling the lie that it was "the fog of war"

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 09:41 AM (zOTsN)

70 Some kind of mushroom.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 03, 2014 09:41 AM (TtEhW)

71 OT  Sidebar:

USA Today: Blood moon eclipse on April 15 is a special event
A total lunar eclipse. The first of four in a row, one every six months--a tetrad of blood moons. (Use "tetrad" because it makes you sound entelligent.) [rdbrewer]


LOL!   Not sure if that was deliberate.

Posted by: EC at April 03, 2014 09:42 AM (GQ8sn)

72 What on earth do they gain by it? Why not just say "ah, it was confusing at first, we had a lot of conflicting information and rumors, so people were guessing and conjecture got out there more strongly than it should have. What we now know is..."


Because    remember who     was out there from day one, trumpeting that this wasn't terrorism, that it was a protest against an anti-Islam YouTube video, and then going in front of the UN and making speeches about how there's no room in the future for people who disrespect Islam?



Yeah.   You know who.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 09:43 AM (4df7R)

73 The other one ..... Marie Harf.... Tho I dont think highly of Paski either.... Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 01:40 PM (nELVU) Ah, ok...googled her. She's a ginger? Looks like a blonde who dyes her roots black.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 03, 2014 09:43 AM (bCEmE)

74 Sorry, but I have Commander Denton this Benghazi story. Nobody, outside of here, gives a shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 09:43 AM (gh7eZ)

75 tetrad sounds like a southie trying to say retardh

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 09:43 AM (zOTsN)

76 They come upon an occasional acorn. Or a broken clock is right twice a day. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 03, 2014 01:41 PM (HVff2) Well, thank you, sir.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 09:43 AM (IXrOn)

77 Les Aspin got canned over Mogadishu.

Beside Petraeus being found sticking his pistol where it did not belong, has anyone suffered any consequences over Benghazi?

Why am I reminded of, "Lord if I can find ten honest men will you spare Sodom?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 09:43 AM (1cFNy)

78 obama and the liberals stance since 2008: Never apologize, never explain, never say your were wrong. Confuse, obfuscate, and lie. And it's working great for them, since they have the MSM in their back pocket on their knees, so why change?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 03, 2014 09:44 AM (t3UFN)

79 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 03, 2014 01:43 PM (4df7R) Re-education doesn't always require the camps comrade!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 03, 2014 09:44 AM (NrADn)

80

Ego
Morrell knows what they said wasnt by accident
it wasnt due to error
ego prevents him from telling the lie that it was "the fog of war"

 

 

And remember, the election was only weeks away.  Spin, spin, spin.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2014 09:44 AM (cojT9)

81 I am willing to go full Denton on this story BTW I bet Denton would've approved of the use of his name in that way

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 09:45 AM (zOTsN)

82 77-no and the indispensable man, Eric Holder, will ensure that no one will pay a price for the actions or the perjury. Just one more reason why the trust being placed in the hands of intelligence agencies to self limit their illegal practices is so stupid.

Posted by: ejo at April 03, 2014 09:45 AM (GXvSO)

83 This wasn't terrorism because it was just before an election and Dear Leader said Al Qaeda was decimated and all but defeated. 

Posted by: no good deed at April 03, 2014 09:45 AM (ILBCY)

84 FAUX NEWS!! FAAAUUUXXXX! BRRRRAAAAAAACCCCKKK!! BRAINWASHED REICH WINGER!!!! BRRRRAAAAAAAACCCKKKK! PHONY SCANDAL!!! FAUX NEWS PHONY SCANDAL! KOCH!!!

Posted by: Proggy, the Liberal Screeching Parrot at April 03, 2014 09:45 AM (LP0Fj)

85 The Obama administration has figured out that nobody has to be the fall guy, that they can just stick it out, stonewall, and eventually their problems go away. There are no consequences for them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 03, 2014 09:46 AM (zfY+H)

86 81 I am willing to go full Denton on this story BTW I bet Denton would've approved of the use of his name in that way Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 01:45 PM (zOTsN Not according to the Woof

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 03, 2014 09:46 AM (HVff2)

87 "And remember, the election was only weeks away. Spin, spin, spin."
Sure, back then, but why NOW? Why stick to that line now?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 03, 2014 09:46 AM (zfY+H)

88 The other networks were too busy spiking the ball (and showing clips of Obama's victory speech) to show the Benghazi hearings.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 03, 2014 09:47 AM (Fg9f5)

89 Petraeus has to be severely handicapped on this one. He has to have been blackmailed. He has disappointed me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 03, 2014 09:47 AM (t3UFN)

90

OK ... show of hands. Who thinks Repubs will not pursue today's testimony, except to get a couple more photo-ops, in an attempt to make a 2014 campaign issue that they will promptly fuck up ?

 

Raises hand.

 

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 09:47 AM (NLifn)

91 [Re-education doesn't always require the camps comrade!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 03, 2014 01:44 PM (NrADn)[/i]




When we're in the camps, all the Horde members have to get a blue-footed boobie embroidered on their camp uniform.  That way we can find each other.   *nod*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 09:47 AM (4df7R)

92 Why do they lie? Because they won't be called on it by anyone.

Posted by: ejo at April 03, 2014 09:47 AM (GXvSO)

93 The other networks were too busy spiking the ball (and showing clips of Obama's victory speech) to show the Benghazi hearings. Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 03, 2014 01:47 PM (Fg9f5) Blue Cross Blue Shield Says 20% of Obamacare Enrollees Never Paid For Their PlansÂ… Applied across the board that would bring the total number of signups from 7 million down to 5.6 million, the vast majority of which were previously insured. yeah some victory?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 03, 2014 09:48 AM (t3UFN)

94 We have this lawlessness because the Democrats no longer fear any consequences.  Started with how Bill and Hillary skated.

Putin and other bad actors are acting up because they no longer fear the US will do anything.

And its 100 years after WWI.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 09:48 AM (1cFNy)

95 They can't come clean now because there are not going to be prosecutions. none.  Holder won't let it happen.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2014 09:48 AM (cojT9)

96 91 When we're in the camps, all the Horde members have to get a blue-footed boobie embroidered on their camp uniform. That way we can find each other. *nod* Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 03, 2014 01:47 PM (4df7R) I want a new tattoo, could I just get a precious "M" say on my left bicep? RIght one is full.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 03, 2014 09:48 AM (HVff2)

97 One person who sits at the top, a person who is suppose to be the Commander in Chief, had the authority to order military resources. Instead he slept.

The other person responsible was our illustrious SoS. She ignored pleas to beef up security for the sake of apperances. She denied the requests. When our countrymen were murdered, she lied through her teeth to cover her fat ass.

Nobody tell the media. 

Posted by: Marcus T, JDAM Connoisseur at April 03, 2014 09:49 AM (GGCsk)

98 Why stick to that line now?

I don't know.

Posted by: Scooter Libby at April 03, 2014 09:49 AM (ILBCY)

99 You teabaggers really get riled up about some dude named Ben Ghazi, don't you?  What is he? A gay black dude or something?  Is he trying to marry his boyfriend.  You're really obsessed, RWNJ's!!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein's Lesbian Niece at April 03, 2014 09:49 AM (OZmbA)

100 Reid says "Kock Brothers" to stoke and stroke the Democrat base. Republicans are dragging out this Benghazi scandal (with not intention of holding anyone accountable) to stoke and stroke the Republican base. It's all bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 09:49 AM (gh7eZ)

101 OK ... show of hands. Who thinks Repubs will not pursue today's testimony, except to get a couple more photo-ops, in an attempt to make a 2014 campaign issue that they will promptly fuck up ?

Raises hand.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 01:47 PM (NLifn)



*raises hand, too*


This shouldn't even BE a political issue.   They should be out there, hammering    their fists against podiums and writing editorials and putting out    political ads   about why this    is   more important than politics, dammit, and people need to be held accountable for what happened over there and the joke of a followup investigation.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 09:49 AM (4df7R)

102 87 "And remember, the election was only weeks away. Spin, spin, spin." Sure, back then, but why NOW? Why stick to that line now? --- They really don't want to explain why, exactly, the ambassador was at the consulate in Benghazi vs. the embassy in Tripoli. Nothing's ever been fully confirmed, but the speculation was that he was part of the CIA's operation running weapons to the Syrian rebels and/or he was trying to recover weapons given to the Libyan rebels to overthrow Daffy.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 03, 2014 09:49 AM (APuJ7)

103 So who's idea was the bullshit about the YouTube video? Rice or Hillary?

I watched the first two hours of the hearing yesterday, but did not hear anyone ask that question. Was it ever asked?

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 03, 2014 09:50 AM (xtby2)

104 Ahh Mary, thank you. I needed that before heading out. Cya horde.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 03, 2014 09:50 AM (HVff2)

105 In the camps, I'm going to squeeze bewbs while asking trivia questions ... all in the name of science.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 09:50 AM (NLifn)

106 When we're in the camps, all the Horde members have to get a blue-footed boobie embroidered on their camp uniform. That way we can find each other. *nod* Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 03, 2014 01:47 PM (4df7R) You're welcome.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 03, 2014 09:50 AM (BHdAm)

107 I watched the first two hours of the hearing yesterday, but did not hear anyone ask that question. Was it ever asked? --- WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?!?

Posted by: Hillary's 2016 Chances at April 03, 2014 09:50 AM (APuJ7)

108 I want a new tattoo, could I just get a precious "M" say on my left bicep? RIght one is full.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 03, 2014 01:48 PM (HVff2)



Hmm... Well, okay.     Points if  the   two middle strokes of the M look like a pair of crossbones, to pay homage to the logo. 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 09:51 AM (4df7R)

109 You'll be shocked to learn, I'm sure, that other than fox these hearings are being reported nowhere else, I checked.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 03, 2014 09:51 AM (/g5vp)

110 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 03, 2014 01:35 PM (HVff2) And the thing is, we talk about "four dead" but we keep forgetting about all the others who were there. The State Dept was willing to write off *forty* people but got lucky at 'only' losing those four (and that was solely due to those four's heroic sacrifice to protect the others and no fault of the State Dept"s that the toll was so low).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 03, 2014 09:51 AM (GDulk)

111 Petraeus has to be severely handicapped on this one. He has to have been blackmailed. He has disappointed me Posted by: Nevergiveup they STILL have not closed the FBI investigation of him for his affair with Broadwell. Its been about two years, and they still haven't closed it all these other pukes went with the civilian firm. Petraeus is guest lecturing at universities I bet he doesn't even have his security clearances anymore because there is an open investigation of him. They are using the threat of criminal prosecution to shut him up. Chaffetz said as much

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 09:51 AM (zOTsN)

112 They left those people to die. Stevens knew too much about our arming of the Islamists, he was trying to get armament back, the security was nonexistent, a rescue was iffy and they just left them to die. Then went to a party.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 03, 2014 09:52 AM (n+8FE)

113 89 Petraeus has to be severely handicapped on this one. He has to have been blackmailed. He has disappointed me Petraeus has (wait for it) Betrayed us.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 09:52 AM (7ObY1)

114 IED found attached to a vehicle in a housing area outside of Ft hood's rancier gate. Reported by KCEN news

Posted by: Concealed carrie at April 03, 2014 09:52 AM (FkVhR)

115 A gay black dude or something? Is he trying to marry his boyfriend. You're really obsessed, RWNJ's!! Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein's Lesbian Niece at April 03, 2014 01:49 PM (OZmbA) In a moment of ColdAir clarity, Mary perfectly describes the Obama/Reggie courtship.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 09:53 AM (IXrOn)

116 Everything related to what I may or may not have done as the Searchlight Strangler: local crime stories.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 03, 2014 09:53 AM (KbrNh)

117 "IED found attached to a vehicle in a housing area outside of Ft hood's rancier gate. Reported by KCEN news" ??????

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 03, 2014 09:54 AM (gOoFi)

118 There is a lot of information presented about an old story of Bengaaazi. So what? You all do realize that 7.1 million people did something on PPACA websites, no?

Posted by: RioBravo at April 03, 2014 09:54 AM (8Ks4F)

119 I thought it was interesting that there were like 33? CIA agents on the ground in Benghazi at the time. o_O We'll never know.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 09:54 AM (IXrOn)

120 June 28, 1914 was when the Archduke was assassinated.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 09:54 AM (1cFNy)

121 http://www.kcentv.com/story/25153747/breaking-suspicious-device-reported-in-killeen-neighborhood

Posted by: Concealed carrie at April 03, 2014 09:54 AM (FkVhR)

122 @69 - Once again, it's not the crime, it's the coverup. In this case there was a situation that left our facilities and staff easy prey. Not a crime, but a gross failure of leadership. The problem, of course, is that Hillary Clinton has to remember Bill's SecDef Les Aspin after Mogadishu walking the plank for failures only incrementally more serious. For Hillary, whose entire term as SecState was about keeping her head down and doing absolutely nothing that could ever be pinned on her - to be rendered an unperson over a few fuzzy-wuzzies having a fit had to have been her worst nightmare. You can damn well bet that she'd spend every bit of energy she never exerted at State cranking the spin machine up to full artificial-gravity.

Posted by: JEM at April 03, 2014 09:55 AM (o+SC1)

123

Blood moon eclipse on April 15 is a special event
A
total lunar eclipse. The first of four in a row, one every six
months--a tetrad of blood moons

 

--

 

Interesting side note:  Having four blood moons    consecutively    rarely happens.  It happened in 1492, 1948, and 1967.  All     important     years.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 03, 2014 09:55 AM (0Jb7F)

124 Petraeus, a man of zero honor, like most of our military command structure. If he had honor, he would tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may. Truth, unfortunately, seems to be unknown to his ilk.

Posted by: ejo at April 03, 2014 09:55 AM (GXvSO)

125 Quick check of the news and they don't think it related to the shooting yesterday so far.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 03, 2014 09:55 AM (gOoFi)

126

June 28, 1914 was when the Archduke was assassinated.

 

Just got a chill up my spine.

Posted by: Infidel at April 03, 2014 09:56 AM (cojT9)

127 All those times I've, er, "shocked the monkey"? Local crime stories.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 03, 2014 09:56 AM (KbrNh)

128 Okay, I read that as BACON Global Strategies.


Which leads me to three questions:

1.  How can BACON finally be utilized to bring permanent world peace?

2.  What would BACON's strategy be, if BACON were the Benevolent Overlord of the World, rather than just our stomachs?

3.  Holy Mother of BACON, what's for LUNCH!?!?!

Posted by: Sharkman at April 03, 2014 09:56 AM (TM1p8)

129

Blood moon eclipse on April 15 is a special event
A
total lunar eclipse. The first of four in a row, one every six
months--a tetrad of blood moons

Isn't that when all the witches come out and eat children or something?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 03, 2014 09:56 AM (DrWcr)

130 Here is the KCEN story link.  Truck.  Wiring dangling.  Bomb squad on the way.

http://tinyurl.com/kzvvt4n

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 09:56 AM (1cFNy)

131 It happened in 1492, 1948, and 1967. All important years. --- What are "Years where the Muslims got their asses whipped", Alex?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 03, 2014 09:56 AM (APuJ7)

132 Remember those spy movies from a couple of decades ago where innocent Americans were being secretly subjugated by the government - Three Days of the Condor, Enemy of the State, etc.?  These kind of things were always portrayed as happening.  Of course, the administrations were always - let's say, right wing.  You could tell.  They were always stereotyped.  And the heroes were always dems - again stereotyped people of the people. 

But now the shit is really happening and it is being done by the left, it's what should be happening - for the good of the country.  The same people who were portrayed condemning this shit are the very ones now who encourage everyone to look the other way while their good is being safeguarded by their betters.


Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 09:57 AM (BZAd3)

133 that it was a protest against an anti-Islam YouTube video, and then going in front of the UN and making speeches about how there's no room in the future for people who disrespect Islam?



Yeah. You know who.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 03, 2014 01:43 PM (4df7R)


AND they were trying to use that video against speech rights here in the states.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 09:57 AM (nqBYe)

134 Here's the thing. All the cloak and dagger clandestine stuff the CIA used to do? Rumor has it that those operations have now been transferred over to the State Dept. CIA was too full of former military/patriots, so they wouldn't just go along with things such as arming AQ linked groups in Syria. So they just switched those things to the bureaucrats over in State, and you just know those shitbags will do whatever whenever for the people behind the scenes. Yes, this doesn't end well.

Posted by: @koenigjojo at April 03, 2014 09:57 AM (2wawf)

135 IED Story.

http://tinyurl.com/n24dxwz

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 03, 2014 09:57 AM (vVOWk)

136

FWIW, I've met Mary Cloggenstein. That bitch has the finest set of lungs north of the Mason-Dixon. Been to two World's Fairs and a hog breeding, but ain't never seen any shit like that before.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 09:58 AM (NLifn)

137 Black Moon was actually a pretty good comeback album for Emerson, Lake & Palmer. Oh, Blood moon? Never mind.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 09:58 AM (7ObY1)

138 A Morell is a kind of weasel.

Posted by: wiserbud at April 03, 2014 09:58 AM (NXg/k)

139 koenigjojo

you know how it is, If you loved America and saw it as a beacon of hope and a place to protect well you gotta go!

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 09:59 AM (nqBYe)

140 "Nothing's ever been fully confirmed, but the speculation was that he was part of the CIA's operation running weapons to the Syrian rebels and/or he was trying to recover weapons given to the Libyan rebels to overthrow Daffy."
That seems likely, and if it was some covert operation that got interrupted by berserk jihadis, then they should be saying "Look we had an op in progress and things went really bad and we can't talk about a lot of this."
The way they are handling this is so unprofessional, childish, and arrogant. Which I guess is all they know, really. Its not a strategy, its just how they approach everything.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 03, 2014 09:59 AM (zfY+H)

141 FWIW, I've met Mary Cloggenstein. That bitch has the finest set of lungs north of the Mason-Dixon. Been to two World's Fairs and a hog breeding, but ain't never seen any shit like that before.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 01:58 PM (NLifn)


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Warden?????  Can I get a new cell mate???

Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 10:00 AM (nELVU)

142 *turns bright red out of sheer embarrassment* That's why they don't let me out very often. In my defense, calling this whole thing 'local news' is somewhat consistent with our lovely media has done in the past. *makes mental note: work on recognizing sarcasm in the future*

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at April 03, 2014 10:00 AM (NSh5j)

143 IED Story. --- Thank goodness no one plants bombs or mines anymore. All the leftover mines were always such a problem and bombs are too damaging.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 03, 2014 10:00 AM (8Ks4F)

144 By the time hillary clinton's 2016 campaign gets rolling, this Benghazi 'story' will be regarded the same way as Jeremiah Wright was in 2008.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:00 AM (gh7eZ)

145 Our "Intelligence" Agencies have been thoroughly politicized to the point of being useless

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 03, 2014 10:01 AM (t3UFN)

146 144 By the time hillary clinton's 2016 campaign gets rolling, this Benghazi 'story' will be regarded the same way as Jeremiah Wright was in 2008. True. I can already hear Anderson "360" Cooper apologizing for having to even mention it.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 10:01 AM (7ObY1)

147 The way they are handling this is so unprofessional, childish, and arrogant. Yep. Obama's story as well.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 03, 2014 10:02 AM (naUcP)

148 Just having my coffee.  Blue-footed boobehs??

Posted by: Soona at April 03, 2014 10:02 AM (fZQEE)

149 I honestly believe that all this bureaucratic confusion comes from workers simply not doing their jobs. They have no idea what's going on because they're too busy watching pr0n, surfing dating websites, arranging hookers for their boss, etc. And now their agency chiefs are stonewalling in front of Congress, hoping that the issue will go away so that they can get back to their Super Important Conference that happens to be in Las Vegas.

Posted by: pookysgirl at April 03, 2014 10:02 AM (kMnHs)

150 AND they were trying to use that video against speech rights here in the states. Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 01:57 PM (nqBYe) Nakoula is still in prison so it's kinda working.

Posted by: RWC at April 03, 2014 10:02 AM (fWAjv)

151 Christopher Taylor.

All they think about is "How does this make me look?"  The nuts and bolts of right or wrong or acting like an adult.  That never enters their mental calculations.  Its always Me and My Ego must be protected.

Look at what Bill and Hillary did to the White House folks running the travel office.  They did not understand things so manufactured allegations of malfeasance to fire innocent people and put their cronies in.  Because that was how they did things.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 10:03 AM (1cFNy)

152

Don't leave now fixer. Party's just getting started.

 

Heard talk of a RAPTOR !!! Ain't that some shit.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 10:03 AM (NLifn)

153 The two things that really bother me about Benghazi was the way hillary clinton lied to those families as she photo-opped the coffins, and the huge lie clinton told about the Libyans trying to help Stephens to the hospital as they were dragging his body through the streets.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:04 AM (gh7eZ)

154 Explosive my ass.  This won't amount to a pinch of shit in the Obama juggernaut.  Sad, but goddam frustratingly true.

Posted by: Pipeholder at April 03, 2014 10:04 AM (VTeUD)

155 Our "Intelligence" Agencies have been thoroughly politicized to the point of being useless

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 03, 2014 02:01 PM (t3UF


pretty much, I'm sure there are those in positions that still desire to do their actual jobs, but i guess Management disallows commmitment .

which is where i go back to how i feel about Petraeus and Ham  and their lovely disappearing act  .

 and why i have no faith anymore of a realignment.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:04 AM (nqBYe)

156 Nakoula is a political prisoner. Right here in America. Excuse me, Transformed America. SMOD, where oh where are you?

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 10:04 AM (7ObY1)

157 Our "Intelligence" Agencies have been thoroughly politicized to the point of being useless

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 03, 2014 02:01 PM (t3UF

----

.....  well .... against "foreign" enemies of the regime anyway.

Them teabaggers????  Theyre the REAL threat.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 10:05 AM (nELVU)

158 Libyans trying to help Stephens to the hospital as they were dragging his body through the streets. ------- Dodging sniper rounds the whole way no doubt!

Posted by: RioBravo at April 03, 2014 10:06 AM (8Ks4F)

159 Republicans focus on the stupidest shit. Video, shmideo. Morell, shmorell. Talk about obama's role. Talk about clinton's role. No one gives a shit about all the buffers in between.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:06 AM (gh7eZ)

160 right after this happened, a very wise foot soldier told me this all has to do with defense contracts. he was doubtful the truth would ever come out due to the ka-zillion dollar business.

Posted by: concrete girl at April 03, 2014 10:06 AM (WsqTO)

161 Nakoula is still in prison so it's kinda working.

Posted by: RWC at April 03, 2014 02:02 PM (fWAjv)


fkn amazing, if that isn't enough to freak out the average JOE i don't know what would signal their alarm.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:06 AM (nqBYe)

162 Oh Mighty Earthquake of Doom From Which The Noble Bison Flee: SMOD is taking too long. I'm putting my faith in you now.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 10:06 AM (7ObY1)

163 150 AND they were trying to use that video against speech rights here in the states.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 01:57 PM (nqBYe)

And the video maker was a political prisoner for over a year.  Political prisoner in this country.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 10:06 AM (BZAd3)

164 Sooth, that video maker  was a free man  even if we didn't like him ,until this administration used Him to Fall for Them!

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:07 AM (nqBYe)

165 Maybe just sitting next to Clapper, a known perjurer still in a position of power, was contagious.
 
Morrell -- I got a bad case of them Perjurin' Blues.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 03, 2014 10:07 AM (wNF3N)

166 Republicans focus on the stupidest shit. Video, shmideo. -------- Give them some time dammit. They are working there way up the power chain. I say give them 5 or 6 more years.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 03, 2014 10:07 AM (8Ks4F)

167 I honestly believe that all this bureaucratic confusion comes from workers simply not doing their jobs. They have no idea what's going on because they're too busy watching pr0n, surfing dating websites, arranging hookers for their boss, etc. And now their agency chiefs are stonewalling in front of Congress, hoping that the issue will go away so that they can get back to their Super Important Conference that happens to be in Las Vegas. Plausible Deniability!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 03, 2014 10:07 AM (0HooB)

168 Yeah that shiver down the spine, my teeth are chattering.

The entire mess did not erupt in one fell swoop.  The cauldron started to bubble centuries ago.  But Tsarist Russia in the years prior to 1914 had been active in the region to expand influence and failing.  Leaving only Serbia as their regional ally.  The other European powers were also busy in the area.

So yes parallels are there to be found.  Especially in regards to bad leadership by national leaders.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 10:07 AM (1cFNy)

169 I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT EMBASSY!!!

Posted by: Hill Billy at April 03, 2014 10:08 AM (wtvvX)

170 Remember a few months ago when we had Sebelius on the ropes? Remember we had Lois Lerner on the ropes? And remember when we had Geithner on the ropes? And remember we had tax cheat Claire McCaskill on the ropes? ...

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:08 AM (gh7eZ)

171 LoneStar Heeb, yes , that's my point. It could be anyone , anyone.
why should we assume they won't use anyone to cover their asses and lies?

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:08 AM (nqBYe)

172 *makes mental note: work on recognizing sarcasm in the future*

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at April 03, 2014 02:00 PM (NSh5j)



No worries!   You get used to it fast around here.   Soon you'll be picking up on     snarkiness    like you've never dreamed.   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 10:08 AM (4df7R)

173 Depressing thing about Morell is seeing such an important position being filled by a lying, partisan-hack weasel. And he's smarmy about it. He knows he's lying, he knows we know he's lying, but he doesn't give a fuck, and seems to be enjoying lying to the face of Congress. He seems to enjoy being a partisan dickbag who, so far, is smart enough to lie to America's face and laugh about it. It'd be like watching a top general behave this way. Top CIA guys are supposed to be above this behavior. He had to power to do a lot of bad stuff in secret. It's important that Americans believe that the men and women we give that sort of authority to are not lying, weasel, partisan hack dickbags. Morell's first thought and first loyalty is to the Democrats and not American national security. That's unacceptable.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 03, 2014 10:08 AM (ZPrif)

174 Re 166, there = their

Posted by: RioBravo at April 03, 2014 10:08 AM (8Ks4F)

175

In all seriousness - we're in 1930s Germany. I know I sound like a broken record. The similarities, at least to me, are staggering.

 

We'll have full-on Brown Shirts in the streets by 2016. My guess is a melding of the SEIU, MOVE ON, etc...

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 10:09 AM (NLifn)

176 I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT EMBASSY!!!

Posted by: Hill Billy at April 03, 2014 02:08 PM (wtvvX)


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No.   Hillary..... you fucked em to death.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 10:09 AM (nELVU)

177 Boring, when is Lena Dunham's big fat (I assume) sister going to get married to girl? Also, they're gonna need birth control because it's a basic human right. signed, white person problem voters.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 03, 2014 10:10 AM (+JbYP)

178 I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT EMBASSY!!!

Posted by: Hill Billy at April 03, 2014 02:08 PM (wtvvX)



That'd be a first.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 10:10 AM (4df7R)

179 Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 02:08 PM (gh7eZ)


Yeah.  That's depressing.  And yet we will go right back to the polls and vote for these sock cuckers AGAIN.


And we are the smart ones.  Right.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 10:10 AM (BZAd3)

180 Meanwhile, this is the 2nd time Reid has been caught at the center of a big scandal! Meanwhile, Alan Grayson, the Democrat wife-batterer is still in Congress!

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:10 AM (gh7eZ)

181 AND they were trying to use that video against speech rights here in the states. Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 01:57 PM (nqBYe) The scary thing was all the attacks on free speech came within 24 hours. I know it's tinfoil hatish, but it's really hard to believe that that many university professors and other "top men" managed to pen almost exactly the same op-ed in that short of a time.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 03, 2014 10:10 AM (GDulk)

182 mm corn bread,

that sounds lovely right now.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:11 AM (nqBYe)

183 "...during a secure video conference call two days after the Sept. 11, 2012 attack, Morell told the team in Libya that there was intelligence a demonstration preceded the assault. Fox News is told that based on communications with CIA headquarters, the chief of station understood as early as Sept. 13, 2012, that the burden was on him to prove that there was no protest. "
============
Two things:

1) Proving a negative is not conclusively possible and is generally considered to be a waste of analytical resources.

2) Correlation does not imply causality- LOTS of things preceded the assault: evening prayers in Tripoli, sunset, high tide in the Gulf of Sidra, and the JEF's latest round of golf to mention a few and yet I doubt that any of them caused the assault.  That said I also doubt that I could conclusively PROVE that any of them DID NOT cause the assault.

There is a technical term for what Mr. Morell is doing here: it is called "being an lying manipulative, evasive shit weasel".

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 03, 2014 10:11 AM (OtQXp)

184 Hillary could have sunk Gaylord in the days after Benghazi by resigning and during the press conference putting the blame on the White House.

But like she did with BJ, she stood by her 'man' to keep hold of the little sliver of power she had.

Power and Ego are her gods.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 10:11 AM (1cFNy)

185 175 In all seriousness - we're in 1930s Germany. I know I sound like a broken record. The similarities, at least to me, are staggering. Staggering to me too. We are all Jews now. And given the usual Liberal projection, Hate Talker Mike Malloy's attack on Conservatives as "Brownshirts" yesterday...

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 10:11 AM (7ObY1)

186 one of the first orders of business of the new republican controlled senate should be censoring Reid for all the willful lies told attacking private citizens and Mitt Romney. It's an abuse of his power to not be sued for libel.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 03, 2014 10:12 AM (+JbYP)

187 I expect elected officials to being lying, weasel partisan dickbags. I increasingly expect federal and supreme court judges to be lying, weasel partisan dickbags. I naively don't expect that behavior from top generals and the people who run our intelligence services. I probably should.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 03, 2014 10:12 AM (ZPrif)

188 The scary thing was all the attacks on free speech came within 24 hours. I know it's tinfoil hatish, but it's really hard to believe that that many university professors and other "top men" managed to pen almost exactly the same op-ed in that short of a time.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 03, 2014 02:10 PM (GDulk)


I don't know how it is tinfoilish to Know what they did and when.


They did actually do this, They do actually email news people like what's her face MSNBC to gibve them the days talking points.

And they do have a journOlisters group to decide how to report on what  and when.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:13 AM (nqBYe)

189 Dood, obama and hillary are like twins. They're both communist dictators at heart. They both hate The White Man. And they're both lying weasels.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:13 AM (gh7eZ)

190 I think I am going to spend the $9.99 to purchase Cauldron of Ghosts just to see Anton and Victor kill more of the Mesan Alignment.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 10:13 AM (1cFNy)

191 The entire mess did not erupt in one fell swoop. The cauldron started to bubble centuries ago. But Tsarist Russia in the years prior to 1914 had been active in the region to expand influence and failing. Leaving only Serbia as their regional ally. The other European powers were also busy in the area.

So yes parallels are there to be found. Especially in regards to bad leadership by national leaders.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 02:07 PM (1cFNy)

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

A co-worker and I were talking about the 100th anniversery of the start of WWI last night.  We more or less came to the same conclusion  as  your comment.  Scary times.

 

History does repeat itself.

Posted by: Soona at April 03, 2014 10:14 AM (fZQEE)

192 in fact i wish it were just tinfoil.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:14 AM (nqBYe)

193 186 one of the first orders of business of the new republican controlled senate should be censoring Reid for all the willful lies told attacking private citizens and Mitt Romney. It's an abuse of his power to not be sued for libel. The first orders of business for a Repub-controlled Senate: 1. Several Repubs defect to the Dem side "in order to preserve fairness." The rest immediately forget all their campaign promises and hit the cocktail circuit. 2. ??? 3. PROFIT!!!

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 10:14 AM (7ObY1)

194 When something bad happens I don't want the head of the CIA and Pentagon chiefs first thoughts to be -- how can I protect Obama, Hillary, and the Democratic Party from any negative PR or legal liability and how can I make sure this bad thing doesn't derail any items on the progressive Left's domestic political agenda.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 03, 2014 10:15 AM (ZPrif)

195 >Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 02:13 PM (1cFNy)<



I loves me some Honor Harrington.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 03, 2014 10:15 AM (sjdRT)

196 That's because I read the American Media.


You've got to stop doing that, ace.     It's not healthy.       That's why you're sick all the time. 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 10:15 AM (4df7R)

197 History does repeat itself. --- Especially when people fail to learn from it.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 03, 2014 10:16 AM (APuJ7)

198 It is far more likely that the first thing a Republican-controlled Senate does is censure Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:16 AM (gh7eZ)

199 This entire circus has gone on long enough! Here we are, in the midst of an economic downturn, and we are wasting the taxpayer's money on showboat trials! The questions have been asked and answered! Asked AND Answered!!1!

Posted by: Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) at April 03, 2014 10:16 AM (3ZtZW)

200 History repeating itself:  First as tragedy.  Second time as farce.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 03, 2014 10:16 AM (V70Uh)

201
Serious you guys, I didn't know, didn't see it, we're looking in to it, we'll get back to you.

Posted by: Congressional Testifiers Testify! at April 03, 2014 10:16 AM (hUf/y)

202 Yesterday the President said (verbatim) that "raising the minimum wage would lift millions out of poverty". Has so much as a single MSM outlet challenged that claim? Which, incidentally, drew large cheers.

Posted by: Joseph Goebbels at April 03, 2014 10:16 AM (aDwsi)

203 History does repeat itself. --- Especially when people fail to learn from it. --- Knowledge is power.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:17 AM (gh7eZ)

204 It is far more likely that the first thing a Republican-controlled Senate does is censure Ted Cruz. --- Depends on whether McConnell has been escorted from the building, either in the primary or via his Dim challenger.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 03, 2014 10:17 AM (APuJ7)

205 Coordinating messaging isn't hard nowadays. And it's not done in secret. It's out in the open on twitter and the web.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 03, 2014 10:17 AM (ZPrif)

206

Benghazi?

 

Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at April 03, 2014 10:17 AM (XxAYS)

207 History does repeat itself. --- Especially when people fail to learn from it. --- Knowledge is power. --- Give a hoot, don't pollute.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:17 AM (gh7eZ)

208 198 It is far more likely that the first thing a Republican-controlled Senate does is censure Ted Cruz. ding ding ding! We have a winnah!

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 10:17 AM (7ObY1)

209 Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 02:14 PM (nqBYe) I found it positively eerie. All these Ivy League university, Stanford, types ( not *just* journalists) with op-eds attacking free speech in all the major papers within a day? About a video clip practically no one had seen until afterwards? Very disturbing.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 03, 2014 10:17 AM (GDulk)

210 we are wasting the taxpayer's money on showboat trials! DOWN WITH FIREFOX!

Posted by: Liberals at April 03, 2014 10:18 AM (yU1Dt)

211 --- Smoke is no joke.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:18 AM (gh7eZ)

212 Muad'dib, the first 17 chapters are online.
http://www.baenebooks.com/p-2283-cauldron-of-ghosts.aspx

Eric Flint helped write it but it seems Weber has kept him in firmly in line.  And I have seen reference to how do you get your story out without access to media.  Referring to how the madmen of Mesa control the media on their planet, leaving the Seccies floundering trying to figure out what is the truth.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 10:18 AM (1cFNy)

213 anyway the state of our union breaks my heart. makes me feel powerless and sad.

i'm sure this is by design

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:18 AM (nqBYe)

214

>>> but the speculation was that he was part of the CIA's operation running weapons to the Syrian rebels and/or

 

WTF really?

Posted by: Leland Yee at April 03, 2014 10:18 AM (3ZtZW)

215
Speed Kills

Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 10:19 AM (nELVU)

216 Raising the minimum wage would do nothing for the millions in poverty that don't work.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 03, 2014 10:19 AM (V70Uh)

217 This is your brain on drugs.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 03, 2014 10:19 AM (0HooB)

218 And they're both lying weasels.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 02:13 PM (gh7eZ)


More than just a little ironic their interest in Alinsky.  Hillary did a thesis on him (I think - if memory serves)

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 10:19 AM (BZAd3)

219 Especially when people fail to learn from it. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 03, 2014 02:16 PM (APuJ7) It's my observation that people are *incapable* of learning from history. Or at least progressives are. They are always "different", "better", etc.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 03, 2014 10:19 AM (GDulk)

220 Raising the minimum wage would do nothing for the millions in poverty that don't work.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 03, 2014 02:19 PM (V70Uh)



Except add to their numbers.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 10:19 AM (4df7R)

221 216 Raising the minimum wage would do nothing for the millions in poverty that don't work.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 03, 2014 02:19 PM (V70Uh)

 

And put even more people into poverty by eliminating their jobs.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 03, 2014 10:20 AM (DrWcr)

222 Take a bite outta crime.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at April 03, 2014 10:20 AM (4df7R)

223 I'm really enjoying this latest, most dramatic performances at these for-show trials.  Almost makes you believe something will be done about these horrible abuses.  Just long enough until the plebs can be distracted with something else. 

If the multitude of scandals and hearing can't win a few scalps, I have to conclude that the goal is not to gather scalps. 

Posted by: shillelagh at April 03, 2014 10:20 AM (hRzu2)

224 Polliwog, as they say a march through university, through schools, through govt.
and here we are.
i really want it not to be true, but as there are so few that stand up in those positions and Call BS on it .

that is all i have.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:20 AM (nqBYe)

225 Expect a popular resurgence of the phrase 'move on' in the next pres election. That's how move.on started, btw.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:20 AM (gh7eZ)

226 It is far more likely that the first thing a Republican-controlled Senate does is censure Ted Cruz. *********** omg, ftw. Let's do a new thread based on all the super serious you gus conservative things the new GOPcontrolled senate will do. Let see: Honor Ted Kennedy with amnesty bill giving worldwide franchise in American elections.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 03, 2014 10:20 AM (+JbYP)

227 Show us your Underalls.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 03, 2014 10:21 AM (0HooB)

228 Muab'dib and its snippets like this that make me wonder if perhaps they know us Morons exist.
---
“It’s a show called The Star Empire Today,” said Ruth. “The moderator is Yael Underwood.”

“He’s the slimeball with the long blond hair and weaselly expression sitting on the far right,” said Anton Zilwicki, who was seated on another couch in between Jacques Benton-Ramirez y Chou and Catherine Montaigne.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 10:21 AM (1cFNy)

229 Take a bite outta crimea.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 03, 2014 02:20 PM (4df7R)


------


Fixed it for you, da??

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at April 03, 2014 10:21 AM (nELVU)

230 Bold headlines point out the food/fuel/basics lines and rationing occurring in Socialist utopia Venezuela. Oh, wait...., perhaps they don't. When the media comment at all, it is to point out that 'income inequality has been reduced'. Yeah..., it has been reduced all right. Everyone is poor now.

Posted by: Joseph Goebbels at April 03, 2014 10:21 AM (aDwsi)

231 oh yeah, another thing the GOP controlled senate will do: censure Firefox

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 03, 2014 10:21 AM (+JbYP)

232 Remember a few months ago when we had Sebelius on the ropes?

Remember we had Lois Lerner on the ropes?

And remember when we had Geithner on the ropes?

And remember we had tax cheat Claire McCaskill on the ropes?

...

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 02:08 PM (gh7eZ)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

Yes.  I remember.  Heheheheheh.

Posted by: Eric Holder at April 03, 2014 10:21 AM (fZQEE)

233

Anna,

 

How does one get a story out without access to the media.  There was a book written about our son, Playing Catch with Destiny, and MLB has does a great job of stifling the story.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 03, 2014 10:21 AM (GgPam)

234

Why the surprise Polli ? Plenty of smart, educated, affluent Germans joined the Nazi Party willingly, eagerly, and without coercion.

 

To paraphrase Rick James, "Power is one hell of a drug."

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 10:22 AM (NLifn)

235 196 That's because I read the American Media. You've got to stop doing that, ace. It's not healthy. That's why you're sick all the time. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 03, 2014 02:15 PM (4df7R) -- Also, ace has to eat moar meat.

Posted by: votermom at April 03, 2014 10:22 AM (GSIDW)

236 A bunch of Clintonistas got together in or '99(?) and started a front group that suggested Americans wanted to "move on" from, well, everything the Republicans said or stood for.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:22 AM (gh7eZ)

237
Where's the Beef??

Posted by: fixerupper at April 03, 2014 10:23 AM (nELVU)

238 oh yeah, another thing the GOP controlled senate will do:

censure Firefox

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 03, 2014 02:21 PM (+JbYP)

 tea party.

and perhaps the amish.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:23 AM (nqBYe)

239 no they wanted us mean GOP people to "move on" from all this looking the past at the crimes Bubba committed. sure sure, it could also be used as a prog mantra, immentizing the escheton (or however it's spelled)

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 03, 2014 10:23 AM (+JbYP)

240 R's ain't winning shit in November. But if they did, Ted Cruz would get this many committee chairs: 0.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:24 AM (gh7eZ)

241 It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 03, 2014 10:24 AM (0HooB)

242 This administration is very transparent - every claim they make is a lie.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - "I am not often outraged, but when I am I get my supply at the Outrage Outlet at April 03, 2014 10:24 AM (hLRSq)

243 brb, hve to look in the cupboard to see if i have cornbread fixings.
and i hate sooth now.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:24 AM (nqBYe)

244 echelon?

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:25 AM (nqBYe)

245 Just go to the store and buy the corn bread. It's easier.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 03, 2014 10:25 AM (gh7eZ)

246 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 02:22 PM (NLifn) Yeah, shouldn't have been. Guess I'd managed to delude myself as to how far the "leadership" of this nation had fallen. It made me physically sick to my stomach seeing so many "thinkers" so eager to throw away what protects *them* too. I made sure to point it out to my kids so they would know what to look for in progressive thought.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 03, 2014 10:25 AM (GDulk)

247 OT but another thing that pissed me off. That 'lady' that was convicted of voting for SCOAMF 6 fucking times. Yeah, she just got out of jail. One fucking year for robbing 5 people of their right to a fair election.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 03, 2014 10:26 AM (9Bdcz)

248 Remember.  Only YOU can prevent forest fires.

Posted by: Soona at April 03, 2014 10:26 AM (fZQEE)

249 Ammo Dump, not bought the book yet.  But my bet is, since the Seccies make up about 60% of Mesa's population and after the uprising on Verdant Vista, it will be very bloody.  With the chance of nukes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 10:26 AM (1cFNy)

250 and i hate sooth now. Same here. I see a buttered biscuit in my immediate future.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 03, 2014 10:26 AM (0HooB)

251 Only you can prevent forest fires.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 03, 2014 10:26 AM (V70Uh)

252 Same here. I see a buttered biscuit in my immediate future.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 03, 2014 02:26 PM (0HooB)

 

Is that a euphemism?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 03, 2014 10:27 AM (DrWcr)

253 Maybe I need to give Hillary another liberty medal.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 03, 2014 10:27 AM (AWmfW)

254 Except when the underemployed firefighter starts the blaze herself.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 03, 2014 10:27 AM (V70Uh)

255 Just go to the store and buy the corn bread. It's easier. Posted by: Soothsayer ------------------ Easy for you to say.

Posted by: Venezuela at April 03, 2014 10:27 AM (aDwsi)

256 Yeah..., it has been reduced all right. Everyone is poor now.

Posted by: Joseph Goebbels at April 03, 2014 02:21 PM (aDwsi)


And the death toll is at least 500 and nobody knows!  Venezuela is our neighbor and nobody knows.  Astonishing.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 10:27 AM (BZAd3)

257 2015 GOP Senate's Goals: worldwide franchise in all american election so that China decides who runs your school district. What are you racist? You don't think Chinese people should tell you what to do? Rape! censuring Ted Cruz, tea party pre-preemptively censuring the GOP 2016 presidential nominee declaring Easter shall now be referred to "Reflections on Obama's Struggles Day" Thanksgiving will hereforth be known as "Hillary's Accomplishments Appreciation Day." Finally releasing American employers from the burden of hiring Americans by letting them hire anyone from outside the US for less than minimum wage. Oh wait....

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 03, 2014 10:28 AM (+JbYP)

258 biscuits?

fcol, now i will cry.

(have no car sooth)
broken in the driveway (transmission)
spouse has other vehicle, so now  i want to throw a tantrum at my bad day.
and drink, but i don't have that either.
so.  weeps hysterically instead

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:29 AM (nqBYe)

259 immanentize the eschaton means trying to bring about the eschaton (the final, heaven-like stage of history) in the immanent world. It has been used by conservative critics as a pejorative reference to certain utopian projects, such as socialism, communism, and transhumanism

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 03, 2014 10:29 AM (+JbYP)

260 On the bright side, Yellowstone may be erupting soon

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 03, 2014 10:29 AM (t3UFN)

261 Is that a euphemism? Nope. Late lunch 'cause I'm out of cornbread. I do have some molasses, tho'. brb

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 03, 2014 10:29 AM (0HooB)

262 You're soaking in it

Posted by: Madge at April 03, 2014 10:29 AM (tf9Ne)

263 If you truly believe the GOP will pursue this to criminal indictment, I've got a bridge in NY I would like to sell you.

Posted by: Underprivileged Whitey at April 03, 2014 10:29 AM (Cs2tJ)

264 Interesting interview with Alan West by KT McFarland (Defcon3) about Bengazi. They were going to town on connections, including the rep who is retiring, and really laid out another layer of bipartisan foot-dragging.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at April 03, 2014 10:30 AM (MIKMs)

265 Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 02:29 PM (nqBYe) ((willow))

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 03, 2014 10:30 AM (GDulk)

266 And the death toll is at least 500 and nobody knows! Venezuela is our neighbor and nobody knows. Astonishing.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 02:27 PM (BZAd3)

 

 

----------------------------------------

 

 

Venezuela?  Local story.

Posted by: Soona at April 03, 2014 10:30 AM (fZQEE)

267 260 On the bright side, Yellowstone may be erupting soon

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 03, 2014 02:29 PM (t3UFN)


There is that.  Glass half full.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 10:30 AM (BZAd3)

268 so. weeps hysterically instead Please to be checking your USB port...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 03, 2014 10:30 AM (0HooB)

269 Is that a euphemism?

Bacon butties.

Posted by: HR really needs a beer at April 03, 2014 10:31 AM (ZKzrr)

270 so the last few days have been salad for me, because ,hey bikini time is almost here.

but everyone has to mention yummy food, .

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:31 AM (nqBYe)

271  weeps hysterically instead

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 02:29 PM (nqBYe)

 

There, there.  There, there, there.  There too.  And a little over there.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 03, 2014 10:31 AM (DrWcr)

272

260 -

 

Define "soon."

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2014 10:31 AM (TOk1P)

273 They were going to town on connections, including the rep who is retiring, and really laid out another layer of bipartisan foot-dragging.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at April 03, 2014 02:30 PM (MIKMs)


You'll than me!

Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 03, 2014 10:31 AM (AWmfW)

274 Any estimates on KT's cup size ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 03, 2014 10:32 AM (z5MXL)

275 Yesterday the President said (verbatim) that "raising the minimum wage would lift millions out of poverty". Has so much as a single MSM outlet challenged that claim? Which, incidentally, drew large cheers. Posted by: Joseph Goebbels at April 03, 2014 02:16 PM (aDwsi) The local Detroit radio station went out yesterday and asked the average on the street person if they thought the minimum wage should be raised. "Ise do think it should be raised." Reporter-"what do you think it should be raised to , $10, $15? " It should be $15, laughs" Reporter-how about $30 or $40?" "Naw, that's too much. Days people who are nurses don't get dat much. But maybe, 40, laughs again" This was an adult woman they were interviewing. This is someone with a vote. Most likely a Democrat vote. They will hammer this minimum wage thing as a campaign issue. The Dems DON"T want to raise the minimum wage, because they don't actually want to pay it. However, they know this is the greatest election weapon to use against the Republicans. Those evil rich Republicans, always wanting to keep the working man down. If it weren't for the Republicans blocking our legislation, all you working people would get more money and be lifted out of poverty. Because making $400 more a month(minus taxes, workman's comp, etc.) is going to lift someone entirely out of poverty and put them in a new Cadillac, buy them a $150,000 house, and send them to Vegas on vacation.

Posted by: Jen at April 03, 2014 10:32 AM (IdGqX)

276

David Ignatius, WaPo blog:

 

"Perhaps the chief remaining mystery about Benghazi is why Republicans are still harping on it 19 months after the attack — and why they have been so willing to attack career diplomats, military officers and intelligence officials in their jihad against the Obama administration."

 

 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 03, 2014 10:32 AM (JtwS4)

277 brb, have to scrounge for something not veggie.

i blame you.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:32 AM (nqBYe)

278

Now they're saying that the newest Ft Hood shooter bought his gun at the the same gun store as Hassan. 

 

We know what's coming next.

Posted by: Soona at April 03, 2014 10:33 AM (fZQEE)

279

Regarding "Brownshirts in the streets by 2016":

 

We're kinda already there. When Holder dismissed the New Black Panther case it tacitly normalized the function of violence within an electoral contest. When there was no pushback it became accepted.

Posted by: Bigby's Liquid Pummeller at April 03, 2014 10:33 AM (3ZtZW)

280 And I just found a new word for the likes of Bill Clinton and that pervy predator Senator from NJ. 

Whorehopper.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 10:33 AM (1cFNy)

281 @260 Nothing like a little dose of sunshine. OT, I got an email today from someone named "Eric Koch." Conspiracy?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 03, 2014 10:33 AM (gOoFi)

282 Venezuela? Local story.

Posted by: Soona at April 03, 2014 02:30 PM (fZQEE)


When I was a kid, news about the banana republics was on the news daily.  I used to travel frequently to Venezuela and it was a stunning, beautiful country.  And not that far away at all.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 10:34 AM (BZAd3)

283 but everyone has to mention yummy food, .

Sorry.

I figure I should enjoy eating yummy food now while I can, before the Reichsnährstand takes it away.

Posted by: HR really needs a beer at April 03, 2014 10:34 AM (ZKzrr)

284 *makes mental note: work on recognizing sarcasm in the future* Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at April 03, 2014 02:00 PM (NSh5j) hehe just assume it is, until it's not

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 10:34 AM (IXrOn)

285 I see many pardons in the future.

Posted by: Stoat of Reprisal at April 03, 2014 10:34 AM (hrgmx)

286 279 And I just found a new word for the likes of Bill Clinton and that pervy predator Senator from NJ.

Whorehopper.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 02:33 PM (1cFNy)

 

 

I like the more time-tested word "whoremonger" myself.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 03, 2014 10:34 AM (DrWcr)

287 so the guy was a 9 year vet but a Spc? does that make sense came in from Ft Bliss to Ft Hood last feb mother and grandfather died in last year from Puerto Rico, 3-4 kids 9 years and a SPC?

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 10:35 AM (zOTsN)

288 Does she..., or doesn't she?

Posted by: Clairol at April 03, 2014 10:35 AM (aDwsi)

289 On the bright side, Yellowstone may be erupting soon I keep praying to the Mighty Earthquake of Doom From Which the Noble Bison Flee No luck so far...

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 10:35 AM (7ObY1)

290 I guess we can hold Hillary accountable after we elect her President.

Posted by: blaster at April 03, 2014 10:35 AM (5uFbY)

291 Shorter version:  Of course the White House and its lackeys at the alphabet soup agencies lied about Benghazi, lied about coordination of talking points, lied about the coverup . . . .

Even shorter: Lying liars still lying.

Posted by: flounder at April 03, 2014 10:36 AM (Kkt/i)

292 never saw combat but did do overseas tours, prolly Germany 9 years and spc? hmmm

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 10:36 AM (zOTsN)

293 289 I guess we can hold Hillary accountable after we elect her President.

Posted by: blaster at April 03, 2014 02:35 PM (5uFbY)


Endless Issa hearings.  Goodie.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 10:36 AM (BZAd3)

294 288 On the bright side, Yellowstone may be erupting soon


I keep praying to the Mighty Earthquake of Doom From Which the Noble Bison Flee

No luck so far...

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 02:35 PM (7ObY1)

 

Eh.  I'm all the way in Florida, so it won't help me anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 03, 2014 10:37 AM (DrWcr)

295

>>>I guess we can hold Hillary accountable after we elect her President.

 

We have to elect her to see what's uh. um. nevermind.

Posted by: Bigby's Liquid Pummeller at April 03, 2014 10:37 AM (3ZtZW)

296 When I was a kid, news about the banana republics was on the news daily. I used to travel frequently to Venezuela and it was a stunning, beautiful country. And not that far away at all.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 02:34 PM (BZAd3)

 

 

------------------------------------------

 

 

And the women are hawt. 

Posted by: Soona at April 03, 2014 10:37 AM (fZQEE)

297 Eh. I'm all the way in Florida, so it won't help me anyway. I'm on the wrong side of the country as well. I was kinda hoping the lava might make it over the Rockies and reach us.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 10:38 AM (7ObY1)

298 at 12:35 Mr. Sells and his friends left Polunsky for the Walls unit. Waved as he went by and for the first time a guard waved back and smiled Again, this guy murdered 22 women and children because he liked to molest little girls.

Posted by: Fistin Pug at April 03, 2014 10:38 AM (vFh9Q)

299 Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 03, 2014 10:38 AM (0HooB)

300 Was upset about his mother and grandmother's deaths and had disagreements with base authorities about getting leave for their funerals from Daily Mail

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 10:38 AM (zOTsN)

301 9 years and a SPC and he was in Iraq for just 4 months.

Posted by: blaster at April 03, 2014 10:38 AM (5uFbY)

302

bikini time is almost here

 

That's just cruel taunting without pics.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 03, 2014 10:38 AM (JtwS4)

303 I think I am going to spend the $9.99 to purchase Cauldron of Ghosts just to see Anton and Victor kill more of the Mesan Alignment.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 02:13 PM (1cFNy)


Oh Thanks!! I got seriously hook on Honor and her treecats.

I've spent so much money buying up all the previous books only to be disappointed at the end . 'Cuz there wasn't an end.

Now you are telling me there is more?

I gotta buy groceries and pay the propane bill ya know!

Posted by: Henry Herringbone at April 03, 2014 10:38 AM (2vH1z)

304 thunerb, yeah.  9 years and still an E-4.  I bet he had already been told this was his last enlistment. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 03, 2014 10:38 AM (1cFNy)

305 Friends are here from Europe.

Posted by: Rula Lenska at April 03, 2014 10:39 AM (DrWcr)

306 Eh. I'm all the way in Florida, so it won't help me anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 03, 2014 02:37 PM (DrWcr)


Oh no.  It'll get just about everybody.  You'll just die more slowly.  Agony.  Wreathing on the floor gasping for breath.  But you'll be dead.  So there's still hope.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 10:39 AM (BZAd3)

307 We have to elect her to see what's uh. um. nevermind. Posted by: Bigby's Liquid Pummeller at April 03, 2014 02:37 PM (3ZtZW) When she smells Bill's tshirts, she smells Monica, Susy, Lauri, Beth, Julia, Mary Cloggenstein...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 10:39 AM (IXrOn)

308 but everyone has to mention yummy food, .

Sorry.

I figure I should enjoy eating yummy food now while I can, before the Reichsnährstand takes it away.

Posted by: HR really needs a beer at April 03, 2014 02:34 PM (ZKzrr)


good point, still my cupboards are bare of anything good. Hope is a Lie!

so i will now resume hysterics.

Posted by: willow at April 03, 2014 10:39 AM (nqBYe)

309 Are you smoking more now and enjoying it less?

Posted by: Soona at April 03, 2014 10:39 AM (fZQEE)

310 Posted by: Rula Lenska at April 03, 2014 02:39 PM (DrWcr) I hate you because you're beautiful.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 10:39 AM (7ObY1)

311 Every time I see "Morell," I think mushrooms... true story

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 10:40 AM (IXrOn)

312 Endless Lissa hearings? More like endless Issa going on Meet the Press talking about how he is thinking about having hearings.

Posted by: blaster at April 03, 2014 10:40 AM (5uFbY)

313 bikini time is almost here

That's just cruel taunting without pics.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 03, 2014 02:38 PM (JtwS4)


We used to say that this was the time when the injuns started coming out.  Love them injuns.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 10:40 AM (BZAd3)

314

So a person or two lied...its human nature. Why dwell on that when Obamacare is such a raging success.

Posted by: Neal Marx, American Newsman at April 03, 2014 10:40 AM (6ahup)

315 Did anyone ever discover exactly who the hell Rula Lenska is?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 03, 2014 10:41 AM (aDwsi)

316

>>>Every time I see "Morell," I think mushrooms...

 

Immorrell is what makes you feel bad after

Posted by: Bigby's Liquid Pummeller at April 03, 2014 10:41 AM (3ZtZW)

317 Sheldon Cooper just emailed me to tell you to stop being so literal.

Posted by: Bud Norton at April 03, 2014 10:42 AM (6cOMd)

318 Crimini!  Everyone knows you can't legislate morels!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 03, 2014 10:43 AM (DrWcr)

319 In other news.
#NukeIowaCity

http://is.gd/HIONZx

Posted by: HR really needs a beer at April 03, 2014 10:43 AM (ZKzrr)

320 Oh no. It'll get just about everybody. You'll just die more slowly. Agony. Wreathing on the floor gasping for breath. But you'll be dead. So there's still hope.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 02:39 PM (BZAd3)

 

So, glass half-full then.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 03, 2014 10:44 AM (DrWcr)

321 Barack Obama arrived back in his hometown for a fundraiser as a protestor interrupts CBS 2's Jay Levine shouting, "Obama is a war criminal." hehe

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Sun Worshipper at April 03, 2014 10:44 AM (IXrOn)

322 The Better Half: Citizen X, why do you smoke after sex? Me: (looks in smoldering boxers) Because you're so hot, baby!

Posted by: Citizen X at April 03, 2014 10:44 AM (7ObY1)

323 Newd.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 03, 2014 10:45 AM (0HooB)

324 So, glass half-full then.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 03, 2014 02:44 PM (DrWcr)


Yeah.  Pretty much.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at April 03, 2014 10:46 AM (BZAd3)

325 David Ignatius, WaPo blog No, ignatius, the mystery is why YOU, the media, seem so disinterested in the whole shifting excuses and changing stories by an administration over the first death of an Ambasador in 30 fucking years. You know, the formerly important position that is America's representative in a foreign land.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 03, 2014 10:46 AM (9Bdcz)

326 Lopez previously served in the Army National Guard in Puerto Rico and did one four-month tour of duty in Iraq occurred in 2011. He was not wounded in action while serving overseas, but self-reported a traumatic brain injury upon his return to the U.S. ok ok he was a guard guy they should have got rid of him years ago and didn't called him up for noncombat in Iraq and he complained he was trying to get medical retirement I bet and they said no and he killed them

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 10:51 AM (zOTsN)

327 Lopez's childhood friend told El Nuevo Dia that he spoke to him just two days before the shooting and Lopez said how he had just gotten into a disagreement with someone on the base. 'Seems that he had been robbed or something,' the friend told the paper. Local newspapers in Puerto Rico have now reported that he was also upset that the Army would not allow him to take leave in order to attend his mother's funeral. The issue was one that had been festering for some time as his mother, Carmen Lopez, died of a massive heart attack in October.

Posted by: thunderb at April 03, 2014 10:52 AM (zOTsN)

328 Those of you with military service(thank you)...can you explain what the Army's protocol is for permitting leave for a family funeral?

Posted by: Jen at April 03, 2014 11:05 AM (IdGqX)

329 "Talking points." Humans.

Posted by: General Zod at April 03, 2014 11:41 AM (2+bRt)

330 Qadaffi was removed because he ordered his treasury to issue gold backed currency, and was willing to sell oil for Chinese Yuan instead of dollars. This was a direct threat to US and Central Euro bankers, as it attacked the Petro-dollar.

The US embassy set up a CIA shop to overthrow him for this, despite the fact that he was starting to play nice, and not support terrorists.

People who were unhappy about this stomped on the US embassy, and President Mom-Jeans was to much of a poltroon to do something about it.

If you are unwilling to use violence, then you need to not try to play The Great Game.

Posted by: Kristophr at April 03, 2014 11:44 AM (c6N69)

331 "He said that basis was not "compelling" enough."

Still missing: The "compelling" evidence that a protest had anything to do with it.

Posted by: John T at April 03, 2014 11:47 AM (9tROo)

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