February 24, 2014
— Ace You know when I say "Read the Whole Thing?" Here's my suggestion: Don't read the whole thing.
It's not that there isn't some minor interest to parts of it; there is. But overall, it's long-winded, self-justifying, and self-indulgent.
You can read a bit of at Hot Air, but here's the part I focus on:
In the New Media culture, anything good you do is tossed in a pit, and you are measured by who you are on your worst day. What’s the Boy Scout code? Trustworthy. Loyal. Helpful. Friendly. Courteous. Kind. Obedient. Cheerful. Thrifty. Brave. Clean. Reverent. I might be all of those things, at certain moments. But people suspect that whatever good you do, you are faking. You’re that guy. You’re that guy that says this. There is a core of outlets that are pushing these stories out. Breitbart clutters the blogosphere with “Alec Baldwin, he’s the Devil, he’s Fidel Baldwin.”Broadway has changed, by my lights. The TV networks, too. New York has changed. Even the U.S., which is so preposterously judgmental now. The heart, the arteries of the country are now clogged with hate. The fuel of American political life is hatred. Who would ever dream that Obama would deserve to be treated the way he has been? The birth-certificate bullshit, which is just Obama’s version of Swiftboating. And all for the electoral nullification that seems like a cancer on the American system. But this is Roger Ailes. And Fox. And Breitbart. And this is all about hate. It’s Hate Incorporated. But the liberals have taken the bait and run in the same direction—and it’s just as corrosive. MSNBC, in its own way, is as full of shit, as redundant and as superfluous, as Fox.
Wait, we started this, and the left then imitated us?
Of course this is nonsense on stilts. I have decried this Scalp-Hunting culture myself, frequently, as infects both the left and the right.
But here's why I sometimes am conflicted about it:
The right is engaging in this defensively, as an Alinsky-style attempt to "Make them live by their own rulebooks."
The right has been savaged by these tactics for decades. It is frustration over that that I believe is responsible for so many people being unwilling to acknowledge that Ted Nugent's remarks were way over-the-line: Because they know this game is played by the left relentlessly, but the left is never (or very rarely) called to account for its own PC Speech Transgressions.
No one on the right -- or very, very few on the right -- wish this odious, toxic, censorious regime to continue.
But many on the right worry about unilateral disarmament. We know that if the left is permitted to engage in this game, without the sick rules of this game ever being turned against them, they will do so zealously and in perpetuity.
They will have no reason whatsoever to re-assess their strategy of Scalp-Hunting based on accusations of Speechcraft. (That is, witchcraft -- only the "magic words" here are not Satanic, but contrary to the PC code. And you can't be burned at the stake for Speechcraft accusations, but you can and will probably lose your job.)
I don't think that Alec Baldwin should have been fired due his own Speechcraft Trial. Not per se, I mean. In a properly-functioning civic culture, Badlwin would have been criticized, laughed at, jeered at, and made to pay a social penalty commensurate with his crime. (Which was, at the end of the day, a crime equal to about that of Ted Nugent -- he got mad, he wished to make an insult sting, and he resorted to broad slurs against large numbers of people when he should have kept his insult to his actual target.)
But that is not the regime we live under. The regime we currently live under, perpetrated by a censorious, Scalp-Hunting left, which even attacks progressive dope Piers Morgan for being insufficiently sensitive to transexuals' feelings. (Morgan's transgression consisted of asking a transexual about being a boy, before having a sex change -- this was a horrible aggression, you see, because the transexual in question believes that "she's" always been a girl.)
Here is the ultimate consequence if this ridiculous regime of ginned-up social media offense-taking and consequences-demanding is permitted to persist: We will simply wind up silencing ourselves, for fear of outraging the latest Censor On a Warpath.
I would like very much for this regime to end. I'm sure most readers believe the same thing.
But it is silly to claim this is all due to "Breitbart" and "Roger Ailes" and "FoxNews." Conservatives are very late to the politically-correct Scalp-Hunting game-- the left has been doing this for decades.
It's not the right, after all, which is siccing the IRS and a host of other government agencies on Catherine Engelbrecht.
It's not the right, in this climate of government harassment of critics, declaring that Health and Human Services should now monitor each and every social media message in America.
It's not conservatives calling for an end to academic freedom on college campuses.
It's not Republicans who are purging even the Science Fiction Writers of America of veteran members for alleged "sexism," nor who are proposing a regime of censorship in that organization's quarterly Bulletin.
The regime will come to an end when those on the left -- especially liberals who have upset by this transformation of the movement into a censorious Scalp-Hunting club but who have kept silent about it in order to keep the left/liberal alliance intact -- begin speaking up about it, and defending those accused of new Speechcraft violations, including those on the right.
I will tell you personally that I and most of the people I know are ready, willing, and dying to put this corrupt, vicious, anti-free-speech, and anti-American sport to an end.
But we can't quite do that when people like Chuck Todd are always ready to call the right's outrage "fauxtrage" or false outrage, but never willing to say the same thing about the perpetual outrage of his fellow travelers on the left.
A detente can be reached, and most on the right wish for there to be one. But this detente cannot simply be a return to the old system whereby this vicious tactic was gleefully employed by the censorious left and no one else.
It's about time that anyone interested in Free Speech -- or America -- begins telling the censors of all stripes to pipe down.
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Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2014 12:32 PM (q+fqH)
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Can't imagine.
Posted by: Anyone paying attention to how Sarah Palin was treated in 2008 at February 24, 2014 12:32 PM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 24, 2014 12:34 PM (pgQxn)
Posted by: Iblis at February 24, 2014 12:34 PM (9221z)
Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 24, 2014 12:34 PM (CnA98)
Posted by: Heinrich Himmler at February 24, 2014 12:34 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 24, 2014 12:34 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: The Dude at February 24, 2014 12:35 PM (bStrg)
Oh that poor Obama, protected and lauded by media lickspittles and Hollywood dipshits (hey Alec, that'd be you!) his entire useless fucking career.
Fuck you, Alec.
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 24, 2014 12:35 PM (t8ySh)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2014 12:35 PM (h1D+w)
Posted by: Bathtub Boy at February 24, 2014 12:35 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Liberal Irony Alert at February 24, 2014 12:35 PM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: Seems legit at February 24, 2014 12:36 PM (A98Xu)
"The regime will come to an end when those on the left -- especially liberals who have upset by this transformation of the movement into a censorious Scalp-Hunting club but who have kept silent about it in order to keep the left/liberal alliance intact -- begin speaking up about it, and defending those accused of new Speechcraft violations, including those on the right."
So never. Got it.
Posted by: Jollyroger at February 24, 2014 12:36 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 24, 2014 12:36 PM (P1WNR)
Posted by: rev dr der commisar miller at February 24, 2014 12:36 PM (oTrGl)
academic "justice"
broadcast news "justice"
athletic "justice"
poetic "justice" , actually scratch that one, but you get the idea
Posted by: ed gibbon at February 24, 2014 12:36 PM (en1G6)
Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 24, 2014 12:36 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 12:37 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: spd rdr at February 24, 2014 12:37 PM (+fXXA)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 24, 2014 12:37 PM (Q8vlx)
I read the whole thing yesterday. What a little bitch.
Posted by: The Jackhole at February 24, 2014 12:38 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at February 24, 2014 12:38 PM (d2g9U)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 24, 2014 12:38 PM (XWw96)
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That's a laugh. There is almost no one on the leftist side that gives a damn about free speech.
The left has been reduced to one value - that which empowers the left is good, that which weakens it is bad.
The only way the left will stop this "hate speech" game is if it is turned on them more effectively then they can wield it.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2014 12:39 PM (P3U0f)
Posted by: Epa Minondas at February 24, 2014 12:39 PM (H947t)
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at February 24, 2014 12:39 PM (d2g9U)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2014 12:39 PM (h1D+w)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 24, 2014 12:39 PM (naUcP)
He's not a man of his word and he is dead to me.
Oh, and his parenting skillz leave quite a bit to be desired as well.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 24, 2014 12:39 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2014 12:39 PM (6bMeY)
Posted by: Seems legit at February 24, 2014 12:39 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 24, 2014 12:40 PM (0HooB)
What is the world coming too?!
This is why we need more data to access Critical Information Needs.
Posted by: The FCC at February 24, 2014 12:40 PM (rCS6C)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 24, 2014 12:40 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Jack's Total Lack of Self Awareness at February 24, 2014 12:40 PM (l2ZQB)
I have decried this Scalp-Hunting culture myself, frequently, as infects both the left and the right.
Isn't it mostly post-hoc scalp hunting? You already have a visceral hate for the icon of the other side, then when the icon slips you get to say "gotcha".
I tried to have a reasoned discussion about Mitt Romney's dog with my lib friends. It was a story he told about himself to be self-deprecating, to show that he wasn't a mannequin, that he had family misadventures and one of them involved dog poop running down the windows of his car. It didn't matter that he loved the dog enough to want to bring him along on a family vacation back before minivans were invented.
It was Romney, so it was evil, so post-hoc my friend could hate him for being mean to a dog and not just because she's a liberal twit.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 24, 2014 12:40 PM (A0sHn)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 24, 2014 12:41 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Beagle at February 24, 2014 12:41 PM (i6x8+)
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at February 24, 2014 12:41 PM (BvTwT)
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In WWII the Germans didn't avoid using chemical weapons because they had a moral objection to using them but because the Allies made clear they would respond in kind and Germany likely had more to lose.
The paradigm, as you note, is the same here. The left only recognizes force, and will not negotiate away a tactic that works for them due to moral concerns about the tactic...
Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2014 12:41 PM (P3U0f)
Posted by: Seems legit at February 24, 2014 12:41 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 24, 2014 04:40 PM (oFCZn)
well, it is what they do, especially when you've done it once
Posted by: The Dude at February 24, 2014 12:41 PM (bStrg)
>>>That's a laugh. There is almost no one on the leftist side that gives a damn about free speech.
Not exactly so. Some liberals very much do care but they haven't a clue what we say, what we're subjected to, what we're complaining about. Their condemnation is reflexive and arises from ignorance.
Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 24, 2014 12:41 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: --- at February 24, 2014 12:41 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 12:41 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 24, 2014 12:42 PM (naUcP)
Posted by: toby928© at February 24, 2014 12:42 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 24, 2014 12:42 PM (ImQSs)
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Indeed, the left decides who they need to hate and then come up with a reason...not the other way around.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2014 12:42 PM (P3U0f)
Posted by: redenzo at February 24, 2014 12:42 PM (WCnJW)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2014 12:43 PM (h1D+w)
appears to be disconnected from
"It's about time that anyone interested in Free Speech -- or America -- begins telling the censors of all stripes to pipe down."
Posted by: Jos Lendun at February 24, 2014 12:43 PM (dIkME)
>>>I'm stilled pissed at ole Alec for breaking his promise to leave the US if Boooooosh was reelected in 2004.
I thought he lives in NYC? If so, he kept his promise.
Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 24, 2014 12:43 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: JPS at February 24, 2014 12:43 PM (RvKyL)
Posted by: nip at February 24, 2014 12:43 PM (SxlUl)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 12:43 PM (ZPrif)
I don't think that Baldwin has the self control to stay out of the public eye.
He will come up with some "excuse" to stay in the public eye and attempt to keep himself relevent.
Posted by: Cheri at February 24, 2014 12:43 PM (G+Wff)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2014 12:43 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: rev dr der commisar miller at February 24, 2014 12:43 PM (oTrGl)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 24, 2014 12:43 PM (+lsX1)
Some on the left are willing to go back even further, but not by much. Go ahead and google "Karl Rove style tactics," as if he invented dirty campaigning.
But hey -- at least Baldwin is saying "a pox on both their houses." He could do much worse.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 24, 2014 12:44 PM (xN1DB)
Posted by: duke at February 24, 2014 12:44 PM (d3clc)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2014 12:44 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Clever Alec at February 24, 2014 12:44 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 24, 2014 12:45 PM (TOb4i)
Stoopid.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2014 04:43 PM (h1D+w)
not really, it's kinda easy to provoke someone as long as you know a weakness of the person
Posted by: The Dude at February 24, 2014 12:45 PM (bStrg)
Nobody killed more leftists than the Communists and detente failed when they invaded Afghanistan.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 24, 2014 12:45 PM (DL2i+)
people being unwilling to acknowledge that Ted Nugent's remarks were way
over-the-line:"
appears to be disconnected from
"It's about time that anyone interested in Free Speech -- or America -- begins telling the censors of all stripes to pipe down."
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HOLY SHIT!!! Alec is ACE???
(i keed i keed)
Posted by: fixerupper at February 24, 2014 12:45 PM (nELVU)
Posted by: The HHS Mental Health Threat Detection Unit at February 24, 2014 12:45 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2014 12:45 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Alec Baldwin starring in Field of Dreams at February 24, 2014 12:45 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 24, 2014 12:45 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2014 12:46 PM (6bMeY)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 24, 2014 12:46 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2014 12:47 PM (NMxmz)
Posted by: RagamuffinB at February 24, 2014 12:47 PM (545ep)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 24, 2014 12:47 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Beagle at February 24, 2014 12:47 PM (i6x8+)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 12:47 PM (ZPrif)
Seems like Alec is making a weak argument against the right. It's probably to convince his compatriots to forgive him of his faults.
Posted by: Draki at February 24, 2014 12:48 PM (L8r/r)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 24, 2014 12:48 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Strife at February 24, 2014 12:48 PM (ZW1Ga)
>>>Speaking of Justified, thanks for bringing my attention to that, Horde. Wish this was not the last (my first) season.
Hulu Plus, dood
Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 24, 2014 12:48 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2014 12:48 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 24, 2014 12:48 PM (CnA98)
Posted by: SorosSucks at February 24, 2014 12:48 PM (f/qE7)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2014 12:48 PM (HVff2)
"In the New Media culture, anything good you do is tossed in a pit, and you are measured by who you are on your worst day. WhatÂ’s the Boy Scout code?"
Did anyone else automatically think of Canteen Boy?
Posted by: RedWhiteAndTrue at February 24, 2014 12:49 PM (RHyYH)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 12:49 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2014 12:50 PM (h1D+w)
Posted by: See You Next Tuesday at February 24, 2014 12:50 PM (AnlLW)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2014 12:50 PM (/FnUH)
>>>The Left takes their scalp hunting seriously. They don't limit it just to famous or rich people.
Once you're cast out, they can do with you what they want. The playground, writ large.
Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 24, 2014 12:50 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at February 24, 2014 12:50 PM (dvRYt)
Posted by: Beagle at February 24, 2014 12:50 PM (i6x8+)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 04:49 PM (ZPrif)
yeah, but I still don't think he gets it
Posted by: The Jackhole at February 24, 2014 12:50 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 24, 2014 12:50 PM (Uo7Tv)
Posted by: RedWhiteAndTrue at February 24, 2014 04:49 PM (RHyYH)
it's a really good quote and quite true
Posted by: The Dude at February 24, 2014 12:51 PM (bStrg)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2014 12:51 PM (6bMeY)
I would say there is also a soupcon added to the mix above of personality disorder, of paranoia, insecurity, pomposity, self-righteousness, jealousy, and pure, unadulterated hatred, all swirling around in a toxic radioactive stew.
He must be a blast to be around, as no one escapes his wrath but his current wife (and she should be worried) and his baby girl (who has a big sister he referred to once as a pig). He is a darlin' man.
I hope NYC or his neighbors hold a parade when the moving vans show up.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 24, 2014 12:51 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 24, 2014 12:51 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 24, 2014 12:51 PM (naUcP)
Posted by: soothsayer at February 24, 2014 12:51 PM (fMj88)
Posted by: soothsayer at February 24, 2014 12:52 PM (fMj88)
He's coming in close. It is a start; more needs to be done, but he is at least acknowledging that "Man, there is some disfunction in here."
Hey - I look for hope wherever I can find it.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Winter of Discontent will End! The Flowers of Fury will be here for Spring Planting at February 24, 2014 12:52 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 24, 2014 12:53 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Beagle at February 24, 2014 12:53 PM (i6x8+)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 24, 2014 12:54 PM (naUcP)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 24, 2014 12:54 PM (Uo7Tv)
I don't think Baldwin will leave.
Being in the public eye is his profession...what else is he going to do?
He's pissed because they held him to a Different Standard than they do other notable people on the left.
They didn't cover for him.
They didn't give him a pass...like they do for other 'stars' on the left.
Like they did for Clinton and are now doing for Barky.
And as far as 'spewing Hate' goes, Alec Baldwin has spewed his share.
I will never forget his tirade on the Conan O'Brian show in 1998...where he jumped up and down yelling "Stone Em! Stone Em! Stone Em! Drag them out in the street and Stone Em!"
He was talking about Henry Hyde and the Republicans in congress who had just impeached Clinton.
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2014 12:54 PM (DEUoo)
Posted by: soothsayer at February 24, 2014 12:54 PM (fMj88)
If someone wants to leave a website community, or the GOP, or public life, or whatever, that's fine. JUST GO. LEAVE. Don't make a huge dramatic exit.
I have $100 that says his "exit from public life" lasts less than 120 days. Any takers?
It's just like he was going to move to Canada if Bush was reelected. It's just BS.
Posted by: Adjoran at February 24, 2014 12:55 PM (QIQ6j)
Posted by: Alec B. at February 24, 2014 12:55 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Dr Spank at February 24, 2014 12:55 PM (P1WNR)
That was love, not hate. Posted by: soothsayer
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Or Greg Kilborn's infamous "Snipers Wanted" GW Bush love bomb.
Posted by: mrp at February 24, 2014 12:55 PM (JBggj)
http://stream-tv.me/watch-justified-online-streaming-free/
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 24, 2014 12:56 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 12:56 PM (ZPrif)
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You don't say?
Posted by: Joe the Plumber at February 24, 2014 12:57 PM (P3U0f)
Fuck you. You helped create it.
I hope he falls ass-first on a 4-foot piece of vertical rebar.
Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 24, 2014 12:57 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 12:57 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Draki at February 24, 2014 12:57 PM (L8r/r)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 24, 2014 12:57 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 24, 2014 12:57 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 24, 2014 12:58 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 24, 2014 12:58 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Decaf at February 24, 2014 12:58 PM (Bwva0)
Posted by: Rocky Racoon at February 24, 2014 12:58 PM (omBWL)
In a hetero-normative non-micro-aggressive manner.
In a window.
At Macy's.
During the lunch rush.
But first, he will blow me.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2014 12:58 PM (NHZpR)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 24, 2014 04:58 PM (oFCZn)
He crossed the line so egregiously that he had to go. They did not want to fire him, but, he literally hung himself.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 24, 2014 12:59 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at February 24, 2014 01:00 PM (wdHk6)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 24, 2014 01:00 PM (yz6yg)
Moar Alec Baldwin rationalization in his screed.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 24, 2014 01:00 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: RoyalOil at February 24, 2014 01:00 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 24, 2014 01:00 PM (Uo7Tv)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 01:00 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: MTF at February 24, 2014 01:00 PM (F58x4)
When I read Alec Baldwin defending Martin Bashir, I stopped reading immediately. What an idiot Alec Baldwin is.
Posted by: Draki at February 24, 2014 01:00 PM (L8r/r)
Posted by: mrp at February 24, 2014 01:01 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 24, 2014 01:01 PM (YbyjT)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 24, 2014 01:01 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: toby928© at February 24, 2014 01:01 PM (QupBk)
So fuck all of you Right-Wing Nazi subhuman teabagging faggot fucks!
Peace.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at February 24, 2014 01:01 PM (ZW1Ga)
Posted by: Buffalobob at February 24, 2014 01:03 PM (RZBmV)
But Ace, that's what makes it so hilarious! The part I loved best is that he is insisting upon himself that he is not a homophobe, and that he goes to an LGTB group for help educating himself about their community...and yet, in the seventh paragraph,, he calls someone a "F-to-M tranny." That sort of talk is a HUGE NONO in the gay community, tranny to a transgendered person is akin to the F word. You call them transwomen or transmen. He is so completely tone deaf, he keeps digging his own grave with every word written in this piece.
It's kind of delicious. And sad. And sadly delicious.
Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2014 01:04 PM (BF+2f)
Wow, Alec, good thing you aren't a hater like all the rest of us.
Posted by: pep at February 24, 2014 01:04 PM (6TB1Z)
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You mean, dining of lobster and caviar regularly, golfing at the top golf resorts in the world, a personal staff of hundreds attending to every whim, his own airplane--for he and his wife!--having the ear at a moments notice of any name of note in the whole world and on and on and on?
Oh no, that's not what you meant?
You see Obaaama as a poor black boy in the racist, racist South of Hollywood fictions that has to beg for scraps at the back of the restaurant 'cause he'd get a beating or worse if he dared enter the front door.
Who is the racist indeed.
Posted by: RoyalOil at February 24, 2014 01:04 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 01:05 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: --- at February 24, 2014 01:05 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2014 01:05 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: mrp at February 24, 2014 01:06 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: Decaf at February 24, 2014 01:06 PM (Bwva0)
O/T
Which one (Two actually) of you Morons made it to Insty's front page?
It's not abuse if I liked it.
Posted by: The Cow at February 24, 2014 01:06 PM (A0sHn)
Posted by: Beagle at February 24, 2014 01:07 PM (i6x8+)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 24, 2014 01:07 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: sexypig at February 24, 2014 01:08 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: D-Lamp at February 24, 2014 01:08 PM (bb5+k)
163 This nitwit cannot come to grips with the fact that it is his beloved progs who have vilified him.
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Yep, exactly.
He's pissed because they viewed him as 'disposable'.
Baldwin has been a Hate Nozzle spewing hate for them.
And now...he feels like they've turned on him and disposed of him.
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2014 01:08 PM (DEUoo)
He is stark raving mad. A full-blown nutter ready to crack. I hope he has invested well, as if the gays are turning on him, well, toast.
Personally I don't get the raciss name-calling inferno. I am a redneck Queen. Having been called a stupid redneck Republican, well, honey, talk is cheap. I am also hetero! I am a hetero WASP Redneck Queen who is not skinny (so, fat in some circles, but it holds the wrinkles up, as any old supermodel whose face has not cracked). Bite moi. Where are my parades and/or ribbons to wear on my shoulder in support? Where is my history month? Where is my day at Disney? Oh, wait!
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 24, 2014 01:08 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 24, 2014 01:08 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 24, 2014 01:08 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: steevy at February 24, 2014 01:08 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2014 01:09 PM (fsLdt)
Shit, anyone paying attention to how GWB was treated before he was even inaugurated.
Posted by: HR, watching scripts run at February 24, 2014 01:09 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 01:09 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: D-Lamp at February 24, 2014 01:09 PM (bb5+k)
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They aint coming to the table..... ever.
They're like the Japanese at Okinawa.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 24, 2014 01:09 PM (nELVU)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 24, 2014 01:10 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Alec Holden Baldwin at February 24, 2014 01:11 PM (ZPrif)
"You run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. You run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."\
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I've heard it as, "If there's more than three assholes in your life, you're the asshole."
So, when someone starts bitching about people, just know: You get three assholes before I figure you're the asshole.
Posted by: RoyalOil at February 24, 2014 01:11 PM (VjL9S)
The only future role I see Alec playing is the Crazy Rhubarb Lady in the alley, who may or may not be his biological mother.
He is stark raving mad. A full-blown nutter ready to crack.
So is Mel Gibson, but I still like his movies. Alec's been good in a bunch of them, and funny in the credit card commercials.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 24, 2014 01:11 PM (A0sHn)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2014 01:12 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 24, 2014 01:12 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Alec Holden Baldwin at February 24, 2014 01:12 PM (ZPrif)
And I saw the New Jack Ryan movie, was horrible. Chris, Kiera and Kenneth were decent, but could not overcome the ridic script. But the 9/11 moment at the beginning was emotional, stirred all those emotions back up. Not enough to redeem the rest of the dreck though.
Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2014 01:12 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: mrp at February 24, 2014 01:12 PM (JBggj)
>> But people suspect that whatever good you do, you are faking<<
Absolutely true and both sides are guilty of that. We do it to oursleves. For example, the minute you take a reasonable position which requires negotiation (where you've thoughtfully developed an strategy as to what's possible, posture and probabilities) you're an OMG! RHINO!.
Now some of that is conditioned. We've taken it up the squeakhole some many times it would be foolish to not interject some thought about goals and motives. But the immediate reaction doesn't involve that. It is some primal scream that seeks to paint anyone who doesn't wholly agree with you as some kind of tepid, squishy, unprincipled fool.
That's why nothing will get done until people begin to understand negotiation and strategies such as incrementalism.
Posted by: Marcus at February 24, 2014 01:12 PM (GGCsk)
Shh. Don't tell him about the stuff in between, he might move there.
Posted by: HR, watching scripts run at February 24, 2014 01:12 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 24, 2014 01:13 PM (G9K11)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2014 01:13 PM (6bMeY)
Hysterical.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 24, 2014 05:10 PM (IXrOn)
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Well.... we sure as shit dont want him.
Posted by: Hastings, Nebraska at February 24, 2014 01:13 PM (nELVU)
Alec Baldwin needs to know that it was the Left that fired him. Wishing it was the Right that did so, will not make that true.
Posted by: Null at February 24, 2014 01:13 PM (P7hip)
Posted by: The Crocodile's Lunch Formerly Known As Alec Baldwin at February 24, 2014 01:13 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2014 01:14 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 24, 2014 01:14 PM (CnA98)
Shit, anyone paying attention to how GWB was treated before he was even inaugurated.
As a matter of fact.....wasn't it Alec Baldwin himself that "threatened" to move to Canada if Bush was elected THE FIRST TIME?
Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2014 01:14 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: --- at February 24, 2014 01:14 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 01:14 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Edward I Longshanks at February 24, 2014 01:14 PM (8ZskC)
He will come up with some "excuse" to stay in the public eye and attempt to keep himself relevent. Posted by: Cheri
Just when I thought I was out...they pull me back in
Posted by: Don Baldwineo at February 24, 2014 01:14 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 24, 2014 01:15 PM (Uo7Tv)
Ah yes, the master plan of the conservatives finally paying dividends, because we control the vaginas or something. War on women for the win.
Posted by: flounder at February 24, 2014 01:15 PM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2014 01:15 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2014 01:16 PM (6bMeY)
Posted by: D-Lamp at February 24, 2014 01:16 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: mrp at February 24, 2014 01:16 PM (JBggj)
Hey, remember when the Left got a little old cat lady fired from her job playing piano at a community theater in California cause she signed a referendum to support traditional marriage cause she was a devout Mormon?
The Left takes their scalp hunting seriously. They don't limit it just to famous or rich people.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 24, 2014 04:47 PM (ZPrif)
Which is why leftists in the MFM are always trying to out the gun owners/CCW licensees. They're trying to get the gun owners' friends and neighbors to shun them, and trying to get their employers to fire them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 24, 2014 01:16 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: panzernashorn at February 24, 2014 01:17 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 24, 2014 01:17 PM (naUcP)
Posted by: steevy at February 24, 2014 01:17 PM (zqvg6)
At heart, Alec's just a truculent suburban New York Irish-Catholic brawler with some looks, (now gone) acting talent and luck. A different twist or two in the road and Alec would be retiring from the Fire Department next summer.
If you've ever known any examples of the breed then you know that, for them, the fight's the thing. And, yeesh, how they can hate. Gays, Jews, blacks ... makes no difference to them. But they reserve their most incandescent hate for each other. Just ask Stephen Baldwin. He'll tell you all about it.
Posted by: Padraig at February 24, 2014 01:17 PM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: Alec on the rag for the first time at February 24, 2014 01:17 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: willow at February 24, 2014 01:17 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2014 01:17 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: maddogg at February 24, 2014 01:17 PM (xWW96)
The self-delusion runs strong with this one.
What cracks me up is that it's so blatantly easy to prove that the lefties started it. Just ask anyone where the verb "to bork" comes from. The "gotcha" nonsense, slanders, and out and out lies on display during Bork's confirmation hearing were so blatant that the English language co-opted his name as a descriptor for the process.
Posted by: junior at February 24, 2014 01:17 PM (UWFpX)
197 I've never seen Hunt for Red October, but is on Netflix, so watched. I got to the exposition part of the beginning and stopped because I could not take the Baldwin any more. Should I suck it up and finish the movie? Is it worth it?
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Hunt for Red October is actually a really good movie.
It has a lot of other good actors in it besides Alec Baldwin...and Baldwin hadn't become a leftist Hate Nozzle yet, when he made that movie.
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2014 01:18 PM (DEUoo)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 24, 2014 01:18 PM (naUcP)
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Bull's-eye.
Posted by: mrp at February 24, 2014 01:18 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 24, 2014 01:18 PM (YbyjT)
Posted by: Decaf at February 24, 2014 01:19 PM (Bwva0)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 24, 2014 05:08 PM (baL2B)
The new terminology according to our betters is "heterosexist." Because as we all know, gay people are never judgemental, ever, towards straights. And yes, I think there is no better response to that than "Bite Moi."
Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2014 01:19 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: willow at February 24, 2014 01:19 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Buddha at February 24, 2014 05:16 PM (s/sIv)
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Dear Penthouse Forum,
My and my best friend, Caveman..... where hanging out at the office one day....
Posted by: The Geico Lizard at February 24, 2014 01:19 PM (nELVU)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 24, 2014 01:19 PM (G9K11)
I really, really do not understand this. Does the Left really not remember how they acted with Bush, and how it was light-years worse than how Obama has been treated?
Or is it more sinister, that they simply repeat the lie in the hopes that it becomes perceived truth?
Sorry, Alec, but I and many others have a long-term memory. We know you are fucking lying.
Again.
Posted by: acethepug at February 24, 2014 01:19 PM (m1RPb)
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Dang. Now I gotta go back and watch it again. FF past the puppet sex part, though.
Posted by: mrp at February 24, 2014 01:20 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 24, 2014 01:20 PM (9Bdcz)
Posted by: D-Lamp at February 24, 2014 01:20 PM (bb5+k)
“Alec Baldwin, he’s the Devil, he’s Fidel Baldwin.”
I thought Castro was the greatest ruler in the Western hemisphere, according to Baldwin's ilk (who said it, Waters?)
Posted by: total dickhead at February 24, 2014 01:21 PM (qPxLX)
"That's different. Bush was stupid and evil. Obama wanted to give people healthcare."
Posted by: HR, watching scripts run at February 24, 2014 01:21 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: maddogg at February 24, 2014 01:22 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Decaf at February 24, 2014 01:23 PM (Bwva0)
Posted by: willow at February 24, 2014 01:23 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 24, 2014 01:23 PM (YbyjT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2014 01:23 PM (DmNpO)
Not really, but if so, why would that be? Posted by: D-Lamp at February 24, 2014 05:16 PM (bb5+k)
Well Jodie Foster has vouched for him, repeatedly, and in the very speech where she came out as a lesbian she praised him wholeheartedly. Rumors are he is the sperm donor for her kid. Also he got RDJ back on the path to relevancy again when no one else would touch him.
So I think this means, of course, Alec Baldwin needs to be in Mel Gibson's next film. Bring the redemption stories full circle.
Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2014 01:23 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 24, 2014 01:24 PM (G9K11)
Posted by: Beagle at February 24, 2014 01:24 PM (i6x8+)
Oh, I wouldn't bank on that. Divas tend to make comebacks.
Well, they try sometimes.
Posted by: Warren Beatty at February 24, 2014 01:25 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 24, 2014 01:25 PM (bCEmE)
Because as we all know, gay people are never judgemental, ever, towards straights.
Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2014 05:19 PM (BF+2f)
You misspelled the word "breeders".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 24, 2014 01:25 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2014 01:26 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 24, 2014 01:27 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: D-Lamp at February 24, 2014 01:27 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Beagle at February 24, 2014 01:27 PM (i6x8+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2014 05:26 PM (DmNpO)
Is that the one where a grizz ate Baldwin?
Posted by: maddogg at February 24, 2014 01:27 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: steevy at February 24, 2014 01:27 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: maddogg at February 24, 2014 01:28 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2014 01:28 PM (DmNpO)
I watched a movie the other night...well, 1/2 of it... that had Baldwin and another actor whose name escapes me. They were stranded in, I think, Alaska when their small plane went down.
Ok, crappy explanation of the movie but Baldwin died at the end. It was a good movie.
Posted by: Tami at February 24, 2014 05:25 PM (bCEmE)
And if memory serves, the script was by our favorite righty convert, David Mamet.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 24, 2014 01:28 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 24, 2014 01:29 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: steevy at February 24, 2014 01:29 PM (zqvg6)
How did it ever come to pass that the opinions of actors and guitar players matter for anything other than acting or guitar playing?
Posted by: Herm at February 24, 2014 01:30 PM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: D-Lamp at February 24, 2014 01:30 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2014 01:30 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 24, 2014 01:31 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Epobirs at February 24, 2014 01:31 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 24, 2014 01:33 PM (bCEmE)
Hopkins wife (and Baldwin's paramour) was played by Elle MacPherson.
Hubba hubba.
Baldwin played a whiny, self-centered, gratification-seeking loser who gets kilt by a ba'r.
Which means Baldwin behaved more than he acted (except for the being killed by the bear part) but that's the gist of it.
Posted by: Herm at February 24, 2014 01:33 PM (Xv7f/)
Posted by: D-Lamp at February 24, 2014 01:34 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 24, 2014 01:34 PM (G9K11)
I can manage to watch Beetlejuice with only a minimum of irritation at him. But the whole time he was talking to his kid, in October, I kept having the words "rude thoughtless little pig" run through my head, took me out. I'm going to give it another shot, I think. I can usually ignore most actor's politics, but Baldwin does not make it easy.
Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2014 01:35 PM (BF+2f)
@276 How did it ever come to pass that the opinions of actors and guitar players matter for anything other than acting or guitar playing?
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The funny thing is, 150 years ago no one would have cared what they had to say. Up until the twentieth century, performers were considerable disreputable scum, and lower than dirt. And the actions of the performers certainly didn't help, either. Drew Barrymore comes from a long line of very famous actors all named Barrymore, all of whom were raging alcoholics.
Posted by: junior at February 24, 2014 01:35 PM (UWFpX)
How did it ever come to pass that the opinions of actors and guitar players matter for anything other than acting or guitar playing?
Posted by: Herm at February 24, 2014 05:30 PM (Xv7f/)
As Alice Cooper put it "If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 24, 2014 01:37 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2014 01:38 PM (UzPAd)
I keep hoping Obama's daughters will do this. I believe I heard somewhere that Juan Williams' son is a hard core righty. So it can happen!
Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2014 01:39 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 24, 2014 01:41 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 24, 2014 01:42 PM (IXrOn)
Not even the bear escapes Anthony Hopkins.
Also re: Hunt, anything that starts with a zampolit getting his neck broken can't be all bad.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 24, 2014 01:47 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Chilling the most at February 24, 2014 01:49 PM (gxtMZ)
Thanks, Tami...for bringing up that movie, 'The Edge'.
Good movie, imo.
And in that movie...it's inferred that Baldwin's character tries to bait the Bear, so it will kill Anthony Hopkin's character.
There are several instances, where we're led to believe that is going on.
Baldwin invoked the Bear to get his enemy...and it got him instead.
Which is eerily similar to what has happened to him in real life.
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2014 01:50 PM (DEUoo)
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 24, 2014 01:50 PM (DL2i+)
Which is eerily similar to what has happened to him in real life. Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2014 05:50 PM (DEUoo)
Life imitating art! Excellent.
Posted by: LizLem at February 24, 2014 01:57 PM (BF+2f)
Isn't hypocrisy one of the greatest sins to the left?
Posted by: JR at February 24, 2014 01:57 PM (bKxJO)
But Sir Alec, in full self-righteous dudgeon, applies grease to his spiky hair, and writes this epic letter bomb, ticking off the list of those he hates and blames. Rachel Maddow...check! TMZ...check! Huffpo...check! One by one he shreds and leaves no prisoners behind! He felt joyful! He had done it! Monkey off his hairy back! Toasts and takes selfie.
But then, today, comments of widely known liberal circles, all tell him to not let the door hit his backside and blow it out his pie hole. waaaaa! Not going well! No one in his camp...wait! Is camp like the word faggot? Searches wiki. Unsure until campy people, maybe from Occupy, protest the use of that word (sort of like that black chick reporter saying whites cannot steal the word "racist").
Alec has drained all of liquor cabinet and has not bathed today. So, on top of red-faced anger and greasy hair: stinky flop-sweat and righteous body odor! A pungent combo! Should he or should he not risk a trip to Zabar's for food, fellowship and booze? That is the question. He risks being snubbed by queens, who he did not know thought that word offensive! Faggot/maggot/agate....how to cover that mistake? What was the word I used after cocksucker to that reporter who nearly hit baby's head with lens?
Racks brain/ racks fingers through greasy hair/ racks up beer cans and bowls with baby's diaper bag. Down to last drop of Absolute and French brandy normally used for cooking. What to do?
Risk paps or send wife to liquor store? Type another hate letter to NYT? That is the ticket! Writes list of new people hating him and pecks away at laptop. Somewhere, with each banging of his keyboard, an angel named Breitbart laughs and throws chicken wings.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 24, 2014 01:58 PM (baL2B)
299...Isn't hypocrisy one of the greatest sins to the left?
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Not when they're the ones doing it.
Posted by: wheatie at February 24, 2014 02:01 PM (DEUoo)
Posted by: keninnorcal at February 24, 2014 02:20 PM (ng9uL)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 24, 2014 02:25 PM (WaedO)
Posted by: cool arrow at February 24, 2014 02:47 PM (Dqdyh)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at February 24, 2014 03:42 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 24, 2014 06:18 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 24, 2014 06:19 PM (XO6WW)
Does this mean that you will no longer join the Left in accusing people of being "racist" whenever they notice the obvious differences between races?
Posted by: Jerome at February 24, 2014 06:56 PM (O4ysR)
Posted by: Blake at February 25, 2014 05:02 AM (rvVUZ)
The regime will come to an end when those on the left -- especially liberals who have upset by this transformation of the movement into a censorious Scalp-Hunting club but who have kept silent about it in order to keep the left/liberal alliance intact -- begin speaking up about it, and defending those accused of new Speechcraft violations, including those on the right.
That is about as likely to happen as moderate Muslims are to speak out about radical Islam and its dangers.
Posted by: jclittlep at February 25, 2014 08:32 AM (UNSFr)
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