April 10, 2014

Super Deal: US Will Release Traitor/Spy Jonathan Pollard, to Induce Israel to Release... Palestinian Terrorists
— Ace

And start the "peace process" again.

Palestinians and Israelis have reached a deal to extend peace talks beyond an April 30 deadline, Al Arabiya News Channel reported on Thursday.

The deal will see an unspecified number of Palestinian prisoners released from Israel jails and a freeze on settlement construction in the West Bank.

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1 What the actual fuck?

Posted by: Lea at April 10, 2014 09:49 AM (lIU4e)

2 Oneth again?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 10, 2014 09:49 AM (0HooB)

3 Smart.  Diplomacy.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 09:50 AM (GQ8sn)

4 Shazbot. I really should get a life.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 10, 2014 09:50 AM (0HooB)

5 The deal will see an unspecified number of Palestinian prisoners released from Israel jails and a freeze on settlement construction in the West Bank.

It's actually nice to see that they omitted whatever the Palestinians agreed to do, since they won't do it anyway.

Posted by: Null at April 10, 2014 09:50 AM (P7hip)

6 Halp us Jon Cary!

Posted by: Israeli Knesset at April 10, 2014 09:51 AM (APuJ7)

7 Super Deal: US Will Release Traitor/Spy Jonathan Pollard, to Induce Israel to Release... Palestinian Terrorists



Jesus Facepalm.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2014 09:51 AM (d0Dmj)

8
<<POOOF>>

Posted by: fixerupper at April 10, 2014 09:51 AM (nELVU)

9 Not sure I see the connection between Pollard getting released and the Israelis releasing terrorists intent on coming back to kill more of them.


Help me figure this out.


Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 09:51 AM (GQ8sn)

10 Israelis get their spy back and it's a lot more ethical to kill the palis when they attack you than to kill them in prison like they deserve.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 10, 2014 09:51 AM (rs1B+)

11 This is  fucking bullshit. No one is a bigger supporter of Israel than me, but this will just become another arrow in the quivver of Jew-haters. This guy is a traitor. Besides, Israel gets Pollard, the Palestinians get terrorists, and what do we get? Or is really about Kerry getting to wave a peace of paper?

Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 10, 2014 09:51 AM (7KnAA)

12 The only "peace process" the Pali's want is the annihilation of the Jewish state and the Jewish people. Only fools will fool themselves into believing otherwise. And we have a government of fools.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 10, 2014 09:52 AM (7ObY1)

13 Sure, why not? They've already been releasing Gitmo prisoners to jumpstart negotiations with other countries. Traitorous b@stards.

Posted by: Greg Gufeld at April 10, 2014 09:52 AM (gzJJ2)

14 Hillary! hardest hit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 10, 2014 09:52 AM (0HooB)

15 This is what smart, not spinning out of control foreign policy looks like. Now where's the gin?

Posted by: Secretariat of State at April 10, 2014 09:52 AM (Aif/5)

16 Given an appropriate 3D chart, wherein one could plot axes of criminality and stupidity for both foreign and domestic policy, trying to plot the current administration would result in stretching the axes so far that almost every other President would end up indistinguishable from the origin.

Posted by: JEM at April 10, 2014 09:52 AM (o+SC1)

17 And the upside for the Israelis is what?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 10, 2014 09:52 AM (cCpYP)

18 WTF. If this goes through, the next Conservative President should send a hit squad after Pollard.

Posted by: Iblis at April 10, 2014 09:52 AM (9221z)

19 This is so wrong on so many levels....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 10, 2014 09:52 AM (7KnAA)

20 The USA gets the short end of the stick, natch. Just like all the other deals that John Kerry did.

Posted by: navybrat at April 10, 2014 09:53 AM (JgC5a)

21 Fucking wonderful.  


Thanks fuckloads, Secretariat Horseface.    Go fuck yourself.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 09:53 AM (4df7R)

22 This is why it's best to just execute spies. It is a capital crime, right?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 10, 2014 09:53 AM (ZPrif)

23 All the fools getting released including pollard should have seen the working end of a rope years ago

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 10, 2014 09:53 AM (hKIk9)

24 I'd love to see Netenyahu say, "Keep the traitor, we'll get peace our way".

Posted by: Iblis at April 10, 2014 09:53 AM (9221z)

25 They do whatever harms the US the most. So of course they're releasing Pollard.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 10, 2014 09:53 AM (gzJJ2)

26 This is fucking bullshit. No one is a bigger supporter of Israel than me, but this will just become another arrow in the quivver of Jew-haters. This guy is a traitor. Besides, Israel gets Pollard, the Palestinians get terrorists, and what do we get? Or is really about Kerry getting to wave a peace of paper?

Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 10, 2014 01:51 PM (7KnAA)



I believe the Horde had come up with a deal in exchange for Pollard's/palis released.  One IDF hawtie to arrive at the home of every moron, out of uniform but fully armed.



Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 09:53 AM (GQ8sn)

27 The Mossad probably already brainwashed these prisoners so that when they get released they'll kill themselves.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 09:54 AM (O96tM)

28 Stop pretending this isn't funny.  Millions of people love this stuff.



O_o

Posted by: HR at April 10, 2014 09:54 AM (ZKzrr)

29 17 And the upside for the Israelis is what? --- A massive PR win by getting Pollard. I figure that most of the Palis being released are the kinds of losers who end up splattered after standing next to Hamas' leader of the week when Israel fires up their missiles.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 09:54 AM (APuJ7)

30 Have we ever released a spy before? Is this another "first" for Team Obama?

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 09:54 AM (RJMhd)

31 But Romney wants to take away your birth control!

Posted by: Danny, channelling the LIVs who enabled this clusterfuck at April 10, 2014 09:55 AM (9wadU)

32 If Israel does this they stupid and brain dead. To involve Pollard in "peace" talks is foolish and dangerous. I can't believe Israel would be this stupid and I will be furious on many levels if this is true. And by the way: The Obama administration has been waging a secret media war in capitals across two continents blaming Israel for the recent collapse of peace talks with the Palestinians, according to former Israeli diplomats and Washington, D.C. insiders familiar with the peace process. Multiple sources told the Washington Free Beacon that top Obama administration officials have worked for the past several days to manufacture a crisis over the reissuing of housing permits in a Jerusalem neighborhood widely acknowledged as Israeli territory. Senior State Department officials based in Israel have sought to lay the groundwork forIsrael to take the blame for talks collapsing by peddling a narrative to the Israeli press claiming that the Palestinians were outraged over Israeli settlements, the Free Beacon has learned. These administration officials have planted several stories in Israeli and U.S. newspapers blaming Israel for the collapse of peace talks and have additionally provided reporters with anonymous quotes slamming the Israeli government. The primary source of these multiple reports has been identified as Middle East envoy Martin Indyk and his staff, according to these insiders, who said that the secret media campaign against Israel paved the way for Secretary of State John Kerry to go before Congress on Tuesday and publicly blame Israel for tanking the talks. Weasel Zippers: This is so fucked up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 09:55 AM (t3UFN)

33 Dumb move by Israel. Israel is really hurting for support in America these days. The Left hates it. It's us righties that support it. This only pisses off the Right. The Left doesn't really care about traitors and spies -- look how they slurp Snowden. Dumb move, Israel.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 10, 2014 09:55 AM (ZPrif)

34 "Poof!" Donkey Describes Encounter With Unicorn

Posted by: hairless mule at April 10, 2014 09:55 AM (EcY0f)

35

Jennifer Rubin just orgasmed.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 10, 2014 09:55 AM (kdS6q)

36 I believe the Horde had come up with a deal in exchange for Pollard's/palis released. One IDF hawtie to arrive at the home of every moron, out of uniform but fully armed.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 01:53 PM (GQ8sn)

 

Indeed.  The resolution was properly moved, seconded, and received a unanimous vote in the affirmative. 

Posted by: Insomniac at April 10, 2014 09:55 AM (DrWcr)

37 27 The Mossad probably already brainwashed these prisoners so that when they get released they'll kill themselves. --- I'd settle for putting some form of RFID tracker in them. Track where they go and you can figure out where to deliver the next load of missiles.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 09:55 AM (APuJ7)

38 terrible terrible idea and establishes a terrible terrible precident

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 09:55 AM (zOTsN)

39 Are they also doing this to make Americans dislike Israel? Great way to remind us that Israel spied on us.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 10, 2014 09:55 AM (gzJJ2)

40 Indeed. The resolution was properly moved, seconded, and received a unanimous vote in the affirmative.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 10, 2014 01:55 PM (DrWcr)



*finger tent*



Ex-cellent!



Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 09:56 AM (GQ8sn)

41 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 10, 2014 09:56 AM (PYAXX)

42 So Kerry's dangling Pollard, is that really such a big deal to Israelis? I know he's something of a martyr to the cause to some, but is his release worth releasing bus loads of terrorists?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 09:56 AM (ZshNr)

43 What would they give Russia to get Snowden back?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 10, 2014 09:56 AM (gzJJ2)

44 terrible terrible idea and establishes a terrible terrible precident Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 01:55 PM (zOTsN) It just blows my mind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 09:56 AM (t3UFN)

45 This is fucking bullshit. No one is a bigger supporter of Israel than me, but this will just become another arrow in the quivver of Jew-haters *********** I think that's the objective. It splits CONUS political support...

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 09:56 AM (RJMhd)

46 If this gambit works, releasing Pollard to induce Israel to agree to peace in the middle east then we should try it here; release convicted felons being held in US prisons to see if it brings peace to our national politics.

Posted by: Smith the Philosopher at April 10, 2014 09:56 AM (ORWoy)

47 42 So Kerry's dangling Pollard, is that really such a big deal to Israelis? I know he's something of a martyr to the cause to some, but is his release worth releasing bus loads of terrorists? --- Israel values the remains of one IDF soldier killed by the Palis more than a boatload of Pali terrorists. Getting a live spy back is a better trade for them.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 09:57 AM (APuJ7)

48 What would they give Russia to get Snowden back?


Our launch codes?


11111111


There you go, Vlad.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 09:57 AM (GQ8sn)

49 Unfucking believable. That sound you hear are the doors closing after half the CIA staff quits. These fuckers have NO SHAME.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 09:57 AM (0FSuD)

50 Well, I guess we're at least giving Israel the reach-around now. So that's an improvement.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 10, 2014 09:57 AM (PYAXX)

51 i'm sure this is all to be fair, while the media covers for the poor and disenfranchised Palis missiles hitting Israel for years tut tutted on, But brought to our respective attention every time Israelis decide they need to shleter and protect their citizens. and who else is told they aren't allowed to build in their OWN country because hey we are so very fair TO terrorists. anyway let the terrorists go , i'm sure it causes no harm for anyone to allow those misunderstood terrorists just wanting self determination over their ... oh nevermind! and all that cht

Posted by: willow at April 10, 2014 09:57 AM (nqBYe)

52 I'd settle for putting some form of RFID tracker in them.

Track where they go and you can figure out where to deliver the next load of missiles.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 01:55 PM (APuJ7)



Why waste perfectly good missiles?   These assholes wanted to die for Allah, so strap some dynamite under their robes and send 'em home on a short fuse.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 09:57 AM (4df7R)

53 When they tried this shit at the Wye River conference the heads of the major intel agencies threatened to resign. And now? Crickets.

Posted by: joncelli at April 10, 2014 09:57 AM (RD7QR)

54 then we should try it here; release convicted felons being held in US prisons to see if it brings peace to our national politics.

IIRC, ICE is way ahead of you there.

Posted by: HR at April 10, 2014 09:58 AM (ZKzrr)

55 One way to ensure you always have bodies to collect is to keep releasing terrorists. I know it's a lot more complex than that.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 09:58 AM (ZshNr)

56 We all know how this will end.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 09:58 AM (O96tM)

57 So Kerry's dangling Pollard, is that really such a big deal to Israelis? I know he's something of a martyr to the cause to some, but is his release worth releasing bus loads of terrorists?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 01:56 PM (ZshNr)



He's not even a martyr   to the cause.     He did it for money, pure and   simple.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 09:58 AM (4df7R)

58 terrible terrible idea and establishes a terrible terrible precident

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 01:55 PM (zOTsN)


----


... you misspelled "President"

Posted by: fixerupper at April 10, 2014 09:58 AM (nELVU)

59 This has to be another historic first--doesn't it? unfreakin' believable.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 09:58 AM (RJMhd)

60 someone should have told Israel accepting this deal is stupid. As much a fan of Israel as I am this pisses me off. Bibi better whack him when he gets offa the plane.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 09:59 AM (rDidD)

61 Palestinian terrorists? Oh come now, next you'll be telling us the Easter Bunny is real.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 10, 2014 09:59 AM (LSJmV)

62 >I believe the Horde had come up with a deal in exchange for Pollard's/palis released. One IDF hawtie to arrive at the home of every moron, out of uniform but fully armed.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 01:53 PM (GQ8sn)<



How "out of uniform" are we talkin'?

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 10, 2014 09:59 AM (sjdRT)

63 "If Israel does this. . ." something tells me it's not Israel that is making the offer or trying to advance the deal.

Posted by: Smith the Philosopher at April 10, 2014 09:59 AM (ORWoy)

64 Where is our resident anti-Semite charliebrownsdildo to give his opinion :p

Posted by: Buzzion at April 10, 2014 09:59 AM (rs1B+)

65 I am more worried about the precedent this sets with our enemies we have a shit ton of high value terrorists in our custody suppose terrorists engage in terrorism, hijackings and kidnappings and the like, in order to gain the release of said prisoners like the blind sheik let the bargaining begin!!!

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 09:59 AM (zOTsN)

66 How "out of uniform" are we talkin'?

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 10, 2014 01:59 PM (sjdRT)


Combat bra and thong.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:00 AM (GQ8sn)

67 30 Have we ever released a spy before?


Is this another "first" for Team Obama?

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 01:54 PM (RJMhd)


I'm guessing there were some exchanges during the Cold War, but nobody this prominent.

Posted by: joncelli at April 10, 2014 10:00 AM (RD7QR)

68 I've lived long enough to become aquinted with killers.

One of whom is an IDF 8 foot tall badass who will pull out a femoral artery with his fingers.

Name's "Yuri"

I'm a little critter, and he scares me.  But when we meet, his eyes light up, I have to suppress the panic, and he hugs me like I'm a stuffed animal.

the palestinians that aren't christian can eatadik.  fk m.

Posted by: tangonine at April 10, 2014 10:00 AM (x3YFz)

69

Palestinians and Israelis have reached...

 

Who, exactly, are the Palestinians who have reached an agreement?  The two bits are one legal entity, but under differing management.  And they squabble, neither Palestine can bind the other, but each can be a stalking horse against Israel.

 

I say drop the fiction and negotiate with Gaza or the West Bank, whoever will talk, and don't pretend we can herd the cats.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 10, 2014 10:00 AM (JtwS4)

70 Or notorious, if you prefer.

Posted by: joncelli at April 10, 2014 10:00 AM (RD7QR)

71 40 Indeed. The resolution was properly moved, seconded, and received a unanimous vote in the affirmative. Posted by: Insomniac at April 10, 2014 01:55 PM (DrWcr) *finger tent* Ex-cellent! Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 01:56 PM (GQ8sn) You'll receive them in #twoweeks. Along with a working ObamaCare site.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 10:00 AM (da5Wo)

72 Last I recall, when this idea was floated a few weeks ago, the Israelis were against it.  Hell, POLLARD was against it.   So what changed?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:00 AM (4df7R)

73 Fucking idiocy. Must be Kerry.

Posted by: mojo at April 10, 2014 10:01 AM (AIC5Z)

74 If Israel does this they stupid and brain dead. To involve Pollard in "peace" talks is foolish and dangerous. No, it's not. It's a signal that they no longer see us as an ally (or at least- no longer see us as a reliable ally). So they're getting what they can while they can. They don't really have much other choice. TFG and his talking horse are very specifically and vocally on the Pali's side. Israel might as well get *something* out of this.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 10, 2014 10:01 AM (PYAXX)

75 >Combat bra and thong.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 02:00 PM (GQ8sn)<



I'd like 2 please.  Is 2 OK?

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 10, 2014 10:01 AM (sjdRT)

76 If you like your spy in jail, you can keep your spy in jail.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 10, 2014 10:01 AM (LSJmV)

77 The ever-living fuck ... if I were Israeli I'd pretty much be double checking the calibrations on every defense system I had in country. Then I'd start checking the offensive ones.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 10, 2014 10:01 AM (4CVLy)

78 Perhaps the Israeli's should say, Sure as soon as you release all those you Have detained for killing Your countrymen. except we probably would

Posted by: willow at April 10, 2014 10:02 AM (nqBYe)

79 67 30 Have we ever released a spy before? Is this another "first" for Team Obama? Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 01:54 PM (RJMhd) I'm guessing there were some exchanges during the Cold War, but nobody this prominent. Posted by: joncelli at April 10, 2014 02:00 PM (RD7QR) ************ Or advertised... and probably more of a--yours for ours type of deal.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 10:02 AM (RJMhd)

80 So what changed?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 10, 2014 02:00 PM (4df7R)

---


Polling data.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 10, 2014 10:02 AM (nELVU)

81 I'd like 2 please. Is 2 OK?

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 10, 2014 02:01 PM (sjdRT)



Don't be greedy!

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:02 AM (GQ8sn)

82 "Have we ever released a spy before" [or traded one for another] never publicly, and never as a headline gambit to make news for political reasons.

Posted by: Smith the Philosopher at April 10, 2014 10:02 AM (ORWoy)

83 72 Last I recall, when this idea was floated a few weeks ago, the Israelis were against it. Hell, POLLARD was against it. So what changed? --- Kerry is offering even more stuff not being announced in order to save the talks, I'm sure. He and Obama have been trying desperately to get a PR win here and it wasn't gonna happen.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 10:02 AM (APuJ7)

84 He stabbed 20, but will be charged (as an adult) with only 4 counts of attempted murder, the rest of the counts will be aggravated assaults.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 10:03 AM (O96tM)

85 Last I recall, when this idea was floated a few weeks ago, the Israelis were against it. Hell, POLLARD was against it. So what changed? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 10, 2014 02:00 PM (4df7R) Nothing except obama/kerry are more desperate. And I hope this is just a rumor. Worst fuckin idea I have heard in a long time.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 10:03 AM (t3UFN)

86 I'm guessing there were some exchanges during the Cold War, but nobody this prominent. -------- We've done exchanges more recently than that (Anna Chapman) but have we ever released a spy without getting something concrete in return?

Posted by: Adam at April 10, 2014 10:03 AM (Aif/5)

87 we reward them, we will see more of this this is more weakness before our enemies and our allies this is a huge mistake

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 10:03 AM (zOTsN)

88 It's a signal that they no longer see us as an ally (or at least- no longer see us as a reliable ally). So they're getting what they can while they can. sez Allen. -- Why should any of our previous Ally's trust us at this point?

Posted by: willow at April 10, 2014 10:03 AM (nqBYe)

89 allies

Posted by: willow at April 10, 2014 10:03 AM (nqBYe)

90 EC, Pollards at Butner, some of you Triangle morons go up there and "take care of it".

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 10:03 AM (0FSuD)

91 "Um, gee.   While you're in the mood to be so giving and all, I don't suppose you might want to do something about getting me out of the Pakistani hellhole of a prison I've been in ever since your President spiked the ball on killing Osama, would you?"


-The Pakistani doctor who helped us find Osama

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:04 AM (4df7R)

92 Heh, now we've heard everything! Just heard obama praise Lyndon Johnson.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 10:04 AM (O96tM)

93 On the Nobel Peace Price, it's spelled "Kerry," not "Cary."

Posted by: John F. Kerry, Secretary of State and One-Time World Champion in Men's Medal-Tossing at April 10, 2014 10:04 AM (8ZskC)

94 someone needs a splain to obama who the heroes and villains are in the Americans spy show.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:04 AM (rDidD)

95 EC, Pollards at Butner, some of you Triangle morons go up there and "take care of it".

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 02:03 PM (0FSuD)


GGE is close by.  I wonder if he's got his hardware dialed in right?



Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:04 AM (GQ8sn)

96 have we released a spy for terrorists before we have just let terrorist know we will bargain for release of their operatives it isn't just spy for spy its spy for terrorists they will release the blind sheik too this is precedent setting

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 10:04 AM (zOTsN)

97 We've releases spies plenty of times before, but that is not the point. Doing it in conjunction with the "peace" talks is insane, stupid, and will only lead to disaster

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 10:04 AM (t3UFN)

98 So then Israel can give away more land to be used as launch pads against it? Sounds like a great plan.

Posted by: Lauren at April 10, 2014 10:04 AM (hFL/3)

99 Just almost threw up listening to the local news. Person struck by car last night, dragged for two miles, still alive when found, died in the hospital.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 10:04 AM (ZshNr)

100 92
Heh, now we've heard everything!

Just heard obama praise Lyndon Johnson.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 02:04 PM (O96tM)


Why not? They have similar personalities.

Posted by: joncelli at April 10, 2014 10:05 AM (RD7QR)

101 Posted by: Lizzy at April 10, 2014 01:55 PM (gzJJ2) Ah yes, "Gentlemen don't read other gentlemen's mail!" I can't say I blame Israel for spying and succeeding at it, but I also think Pollard should have been shot years ago.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 10, 2014 10:05 AM (o3MSL)

102 Oh, and Republican Vance McCallister is in yet another 'news' cycle. This time with an accompanying soundbite from Boehner.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 10:05 AM (O96tM)

103 Nothing except obama/kerry are more desperate. And I hope this is just a rumor. Worst fuckin idea I have heard in a long time. Desperate for what?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2014 10:05 AM (xZxMD)

104 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 01:55 PM (t3UFN)

Yeah...."Israeli territory."

Fuck that.

Israeli territory is Israel and Judea.

Both sides of the Jordan.

let the Arabs keep Amman.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 10, 2014 10:06 AM (QFxY5)

105 Why not? They have similar personalities. --- I can see both whipping out their dicks in mid-meeting. The difference is that LBJ did it for intimidation purposes and mind games while Barry wants Reggie to handle things.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 10:06 AM (APuJ7)

106 The Israelis have wanted Pollard for a long time, on the we-protect-our-own philosophy. They'll get him, they'll jaw-jaw-jaw for a few weeks until Abbas shoots off his mouth in the press again, and that'll be the end. John Kerry will come out of this looking like the desperate idiot he is. It's a calculated risk on Israel's part that they can deal with any threat posed by the prisoners they're releasing. And it buys Obama some goodwill from the hardcore Israel-boosters in the US who'd have liked to see Pollard get a Congressional medal rather than jail time anyway.

Posted by: JEM at April 10, 2014 10:06 AM (o+SC1)

107 -The Pakistani doctor who helped us find Osama Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 10, 2014 02:04 PM (4df7R) why no, Nakoula (obscure video guy)still languishes . everything has become a joke . there is No such thing as justice anylonger.

Posted by: willow at April 10, 2014 10:06 AM (nqBYe)

108 Oookay, Who's gonna bite the bullet and recc' Infowars for their commentary?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 10, 2014 10:06 AM (m58Tu)

109 Maybe it's just me, but even Allahpander -- along with Tepid Air in general, the Shepard Smith of so-called conservatism -- has followed the "release of Pollard" with a question mark, and then doesn't go into his reasons for including this in the rest of his piece.

No one else seems to be claiming Pollard will be released, or even that Israel has asked for him. Kinda makes ya go "hmmmmmmm...."

I have no doubts that Choom Boy and Lurch are busily selling the Israelis down the river, and that the news will get far worse. But I'd like to see a declarative statement, perhaps even attributed to some person of authority.

Until then, it's Alex Jones time. There is plenty of real, this-is-actually-happening shit to get upset about, you know.

Posted by: MrScribbler at April 10, 2014 10:06 AM (dDzOj)

110 Just almost threw up listening to the local news. Person struck by car last night, dragged for two miles, still alive when found, died in the hospital.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 02:04 PM (ZshNr)



Have you seen the news about that Wake Forest man who was kidnapped by drug thugs from Atlanta?  FBI HRT recovered him last night.


Victim's daughter is an assistant DA in Raleigh working a drug case on a lowlife, who's been texting messages to his crew to kidnap her father to force her to drop the case.


This is like Taken.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:06 AM (GQ8sn)

111 never publicly, and never as a headline gambit to make news for political reasons. Posted by: Smith the Philosopher at April 10, 2014 02:02 PM (ORWoy) Fundamentally transformed, we are!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 10, 2014 10:07 AM (o3MSL)

112 Pretty good con the Jews and the Pals have going on US.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at April 10, 2014 10:07 AM (dqzWI)

113 Yeah, EC, that was the last news break, I forgot to even look it up. Right out of a movie.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 10:07 AM (ZshNr)

114 One IDF hawtie to arrive at the home of every moron, out of uniform but fully armed. Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 01:53 PM (GQ8sn)< Well, at least I wouldn't have so much time to read the news and annoy myself. Done! Start the paperwork!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 10, 2014 10:07 AM (qyfb5)

115 who else will we release? how about the Boston Bomber how about the blind sheik how about KSM we are trading terrorists for other goals this isn't just spy for spy it is precedent setting we have never done this before

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 10:07 AM (zOTsN)

116 smart fuckin' diplomacy.

Posted by: hack at April 10, 2014 10:08 AM (piR98)

117
I'm guessing there were some exchanges during the Cold War, but nobody this prominent.
Posted by: joncelli



About equivalent, from back in the day.  The Abel case was quite the thing:

Francis Gary Powers was exchanged in a spy swap for Soviet KGB Colonel Vilyam Fisher (aka Rudolf Ivanovich Abel)



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 10, 2014 10:08 AM (kdS6q)

118 Just almost threw up listening to the local news. Person struck by car last night, dragged for two miles, still alive when found, died in the hospital. The driver did it out of love.

Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at April 10, 2014 10:08 AM (8ZskC)

119 Track where they go and you can figure out where to deliver the next load of missiles.

Hurry. We have two standard firing seasons worth of them left, and that's it.
Little things from the Pentagon budget that didn't make the front page.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 10, 2014 10:08 AM (xq1UY)

120 HAHA, saved by the tags!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 10, 2014 10:08 AM (qyfb5)

121 Victim's daughter is an assistant DA in Raleigh working a drug case on a lowlife, who's been texting messages to his crew to kidnap her father to force her to drop the case. This is like Taken. --- So... a guy in trouble for drug offenses GETS CAUGHT setting up a kidnapping and ransom because he was trying to avoid prison. Looks like he's a slow learner.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 10:08 AM (APuJ7)

122 The Israelis have wanted Pollard for a long time, on the we-protect-our-own philosophy. They'll get him, they'll jaw-jaw-jaw for a few weeks until Abbas shoots off his mouth in the press again, and that'll be the end. John Kerry will come out of this looking like the desperate idiot he is. It's a calculated risk on Israel's part that they can deal with any threat posed by the prisoners they're releasing. And it buys Obama some goodwill from the hardcore Israel-boosters in the US who'd have liked to see Pollard get a Congressional medal rather than jail time anyway. Posted by: JEM at April 10, 2014 well, they should consider value of protecting their own relative to spiking loads of goodwill with the Americans that do not want to let the iranians get nukes.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:08 AM (rDidD)

123 Top men. Top.

Posted by: GuyfromNH at April 10, 2014 10:09 AM (kbOju)

124

Just heard obama praise Lyndon Johnson.





Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 02:04 PM (O96tM)

Why not? They have similar personalities.

 

Johnson at least had a big dick and knew how to waggle it to get things done.*

 

 

*(not that his soul should ever have the barbed cock of Satan removed from its ass for continuing the VietNam war 50,000 dead American past the point where he knew it was unwinnable).

 

 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 10, 2014 10:09 AM (JtwS4)

125 Yeah, EC, that was the last news break, I forgot to even look it up. Right out of a movie.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 02:07 PM (ZshNr)



No wonder the WF cops weren't telling anybody what happened to him.  He was in danger the whole time, until the FBI could track down where he was.  Stupid thugs were stupid in texting the daughter and wife for a whole week.  Don't they read the news?!?!  NSA is all over them.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:09 AM (GQ8sn)

126 117 who else will we release? how about the Boston Bomber --- OK, we'll release Speedbump to Chechnya.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 10:09 AM (APuJ7)

127 Stop acting like Israel is doing this begrudgingly. They've wanted Pollard freed for years. So have a lot of neo-cons on our "side." I want to know what we get out of this?

Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 10, 2014 10:09 AM (7KnAA)

128 Does Pollard get a pardon, or does he have to leave America?

Posted by: goat weed at April 10, 2014 10:09 AM (8HrdX)

129 One issue I have with this is that Pollard is not that important. He is still in prison because the administration sees it as a way to punish Israel.

But giving up a strategic advantage (the more Israelis the better in any disputed area) is just stupid. Pollard's freedom just isn't worth it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 10, 2014 10:10 AM (QFxY5)

130 Hey Merovign, Carol sent me an email asking if I could pass along her email to you. Except I don't think I have your email addy and even if I did, no way I'd do that without getting the ok from you first.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 10:10 AM (da5Wo)

131 This is the same "Jonathan Pollard" who Joe Biden said should NEVER let see the light of day again, right? Perhaps someone should consider "accidentally" declassifying that "one piece of evidence" which made Pollard's defense attorney quickly stop acting the fool at his trial. All the judge had to do was casually mention it, and that was all she wrote....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at April 10, 2014 10:10 AM (PZ6/M)

132 So... a guy in trouble for drug offenses GETS CAUGHT setting up a kidnapping and ransom because he was trying to avoid prison.

Looks like he's a slow learner.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 02:08 PM (APuJ7)



How the hell did have a cellphone to send messages to his gang???


Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:10 AM (GQ8sn)

133 Desperate for what? Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2014 02:05 PM (xZxMD) Desperate that their whole foreign policy is falling down around them and they look stupid as dog shit and will take anything at any price as a victory

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 10:10 AM (t3UFN)

134 How the hell did have a cellphone to send messages to his gang???

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 02:10 PM (GQ8sn)

 

Do I have to explain this again?

Posted by: Obamapho Lady at April 10, 2014 10:11 AM (DrWcr)

135 Besides, Pollard automatically gets out on parole in 2015, so what's the hurry?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at April 10, 2014 10:11 AM (PZ6/M)

136 Probably Obama and President Jarrett are getting closer to Samantha Power's solution of sending US military to Israel to "force" Israel to accept any Palestinian demands. I hate to defend Mr. Vietnam but Lurch is just trying anything to appear smart and competent and avoid the end of the World. I don't even care what happens to Jonathan Pollard anymore. We didn't hang him then so why not let him "go home" to Israel. Hell, why not let Bill Clinton "go home" to China and avoid a War over Japan?

Posted by: Daybrother at April 10, 2014 10:11 AM (4AtkL)

137 How the hell did have a cellphone to send messages to his gang??? --- His buddy Staniskovski conned it off of Ralph Galino before they had Galino whacked.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 10:11 AM (APuJ7)

138 Israeli territory is Israel and Judea. Both sides of the Jordan. let the Arabs keep Amman. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Yeah, for nearly 5,000 years. Isn't it only fair to let the other guys have the property now. Because, you know, coexisting and all that.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 10, 2014 10:12 AM (LSJmV)

139 Here's the Wake Forest kidnap for ransom story:

http://tinyurl.com/kc8q5d8


It's a pretty good read.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:12 AM (GQ8sn)

140 In lighter news ... S&P 500 -1.57% NASDAQ -2.67%

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 10, 2014 10:12 AM (m58Tu)

141 How the hell did have a cellphone to send messages to his gang??? Cellphones are an essential human right. It's set out right there in the Good n Plenty Clause.

Posted by: Rep. John Conyers (D)umbass at April 10, 2014 10:12 AM (8ZskC)

142 releasing pollard is nearly embezzlement, the only reason to do it is for kerry's and obama's personal gain.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:12 AM (rDidD)

143 Desperate that their whole foreign policy is falling down around them and they look stupid as dog shit and will take anything at any price as a victory



Might want it to BE a victory, first.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2014 10:12 AM (d0Dmj)

144 Just heard obama praise Lyndon Johnson. Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 02:04 PM (O96tM) fnord (O96tM) Stay tuned for the Wilson Love.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 10, 2014 10:12 AM (qyfb5)

145 HEY!! They need those Al Qaeda in Syria!

Posted by: Deserve's got nothing to do with it. at April 10, 2014 10:12 AM (/vO0r)

146 "...see Pollard get a Congressional medal rather than jail time anyway. "

Posted by: JEM at April 10, 2014 02:06 PM (o+SC1)

I am a hard-core Israel booster, and I don't want to see Pollard get a medal, and I have never heard anyone suggest anything of the sort.

Pollard is a spy, and he got caught. The only issues I have is that he was spying for a friendly power, which everyone does, and the sentence was politically driven to punish Israel.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 10, 2014 10:13 AM (QFxY5)

147 Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 02:08 PM (rDidD) Y-5, Iranian nukes are baked in whatever cake Lurch and Barky are cooking up. This pair will really teach both the US and Israel that the US establishment doesn't give a rat's ass whether or not there is another country with nukes AND highly unstable senior leaders.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 10, 2014 10:13 AM (o3MSL)

148 Israel will get pollard released, ignore the new settlements ban and release the palies the administration is looking for a foreign policy win

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 10:13 AM (zOTsN)

149 What I meant was I believe it must've been very difficult for black angry communist like obama to heap praise on Lyndon Johnson.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 10:13 AM (O96tM)

150 I'd like to buy the world a Coke!

Posted by: Welcome Back, Kotter at April 10, 2014 10:13 AM (wu/TK)

151 130 Does Pollard get a pardon, or does he have to leave America? Posted by: goat weed at April 10, 2014 02:09 PM (8HrdX) He won't get a pardon. It's a diplomatic prisoner exchange. Free ticket to Israel with security on El Air.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 10:14 AM (0FSuD)

152 I'm confident a lasting peace can be forged with suicidal theocrats having a missionary interest in wiping out the Jews.

Posted by: Said Nobody With A Brain at April 10, 2014 10:14 AM (sOtz/)

153 110 Maybe it's just me, but even Allahpander -- along with Tepid Air in general, the Shepard Smith of so-called conservatism -- has followed the "release of Pollard" with a question mark, and then doesn't go into his reasons for including this in the rest of his piece. No one else seems to be claiming Pollard will be released, or even that Israel has asked for him. Kinda makes ya go "hmmmmmmm...." I have no doubts that Choom Boy and Lurch are busily selling the Israelis down the river, and that the news will get far worse. But I'd like to see a declarative statement, perhaps even attributed to some person of authority. Until then, it's Alex Jones time. There is plenty of real, this-is-actually-happening shit to get upset about, you know. Posted by: MrScribbler at April 10, 2014 02:06 PM (dDzOj) ******** Okay--didn't notice till I went back over there that the source was Al Arabiya. Still if you wanted to float a test balloon--that is one way to do it. ****** Adam--forgot about Anna Chapman--was under the impression that she wasn't that accomplished. Pollard was a different level IIRC.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 10:14 AM (RJMhd)

154 Just let the prisoners go and then rocket their asses as they cross over into PLO territory. You know they'll be back, might as well take 'em out now.

I mean how much more crap will Europe and the Occupant heap on them if they do. It's not like they've got friends that they have to keep friendly anymore.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 10, 2014 10:14 AM (JS0vr)

155

Holy fuck.

 

 

Of course, on the other hand, this is the first time in his Administration that Obama hasn't been actively asspounding Israel.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, who does NOT speak for the Department of Commerce, Office of Inspector General at April 10, 2014 10:14 AM (fwARV)

156 Yeah, for nearly 5,000 years. Isn't it only fair to let the other guys have the property now. Because, you know, coexisting and all that. Posted by: Countrysquire at April 10, 2014 02:12 PM (LSJmV) Unfortunately, I really don't want the "tragedy of the commons" played out in Israel.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 10, 2014 10:15 AM (o3MSL)

157 Free ticket to Israel with security on El Air.

It should be a freaking celebration flight.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 10, 2014 10:15 AM (JS0vr)

158 I am not happy for thinking this do you think they are doing this to get a foreign policy "win" and to do what they think will make Jewish donors happy? not kidding

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 10:15 AM (zOTsN)

159 The other thing is Pollard is American--Chapman was not.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 10:15 AM (RJMhd)

160

The only thing I know about their foreign policy:  they will fuck it up.

 

Even when they are trying to screw America, they fuck that up as well...

 

Just look at obamacare.  They're lazy.  They're selfish.  They're stupid.  They are and always will be fuck ups.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 10, 2014 10:15 AM (tVTLU)

161 So this is slightly off topic but not slightly terrifying. http://tinyurl.com/kcz9rbr Towards the bottom of the first page Kagan asserts that the Obama administration has a narrow definition of who is AQ. That they're only really AQ if they were AQ prior to 9/11. Wtf?

Posted by: Adam at April 10, 2014 10:15 AM (Aif/5)

162 Chapman was spy for spy this isn't spy for spy its spy for terrorists

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 10:16 AM (zOTsN)

163 It's not surprising that Obama would praise LBJ. What I can't get over is that anyone could talk about him for an hour without mentioning The Johnson Quote.

Contra the sanitized college-text version, he did not call them "darkies."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 10, 2014 10:16 AM (xq1UY)

164 129 I want to know what we get out of this? Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 10, 2014 02:09 PM (7KnAA) -------------- We? Do you mean We-the-People, the USA? That's irrelevant. All that matters is what Obama and/or Kerry get out of it. Does it make them look competent, good? Will the photos be pretty? Will the state-sponsored newspapers and textbooks give them a nice legacy billing? Image is all that matters. THEIR image.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 10, 2014 10:16 AM (dfYL9)

165 I attended Central Texas College in Killeen, TX for a while. While there, I'd always have to pass a statue of LBJ that was in front of the Student Center. I never missed an opportunity to spit on it. Fucker.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at April 10, 2014 10:17 AM (OsWis)

166 The Occupant's been TRYING to ass pound Israel but for some reason hasn't been able to "penetrate" their aplomb.

Bibi deals with harder, tougher guys than the Occupant in his cabinet.

And he dealt with worse when he was younger.

The only person with more contempt for the Occupant than Bibi would be Pootie Poot.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 10, 2014 10:17 AM (JS0vr)

167 He's eligible for parole on 11/21/2015 which means he's eligible to be released to half way house either 6 months or a year before that date. So, we are quibbling over a few months --- Charles Manson's been eligible for parole for decades. I doubt he's getting out anytime soon, even with Moonbeam in charge of the state again.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 10:17 AM (APuJ7)

168 @141 EC after reading the story and noting the convict was a confirmed former Obama voter, I was not surprised by the stupidity. Thugs do the darnedest things.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 10:17 AM (0FSuD)

169 Pollard is a spy, and he got caught. The only issues I have is that he was spying for a friendly power, which everyone does, and the sentence was politically driven to punish Israel. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 10, 2014 02:13 PM (QFxY5) He was also spying for a other foreign countries not so friendly to Israel and he was doing it for money not so much ideology.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 10:17 AM (t3UFN)

170 I believe it must've been very difficult for black angry communist like Obama to heap praise on Lyndon Johnson. Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable My Dad worked for Lyndon Johnson and I can tell you with 100% accuracy that Lyndon Johnson would not have referred to Barack Obama as being Black. He would have used a popular euphemism.

Posted by: Beto at April 10, 2014 10:18 AM (/vO0r)

171 @163 I believe Pollard has been eligible for parole for a number of years. He does not apply for it. Forget the why part.

Posted by: Beagle at April 10, 2014 10:18 AM (sOtz/)

172 He's eligible for parole on 11/21/2015 which means he's eligible to be released to half way house either 6 months or a year before that date. So, we are quibbling over a few months No parole is a given.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 10:18 AM (t3UFN)

173 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 02:17 PM (t3UFN)

He was spying for others? I did not know that.

Who?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 10, 2014 10:19 AM (QFxY5)

174 We are establishing a precedent that we can be blackmailed into releasing terrorists

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 02:17 PM (zOTsN)


------

Precedent????

Posted by: All These Empty Cells At GITMO.... at April 10, 2014 10:19 AM (nELVU)

175 That they're only really AQ if they were AQ prior to 9/11. Wtf? Posted by: Adam at April 10, 2014 02:15 PM (Aif/5) Constant redefining and artful parsing of the entire language keeps an administration exceedingly "flexible" shall we say!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 10, 2014 10:19 AM (o3MSL)

176 Israel will get pollard released, ignore the new settlements ban and release the palies the administration is looking for a foreign policy win Posted by: thunderb Nailed it.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 10, 2014 10:19 AM (Ea6HQ)

177 Of course, on the other hand, this is the first time in his Administration that Obama hasn't been actively asspounding Israel.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, who does NOT speak for the Department of Commerce, Office of Inspector General at April 10, 2014 02:14 PM (fwARV)



Are you forgetting the part about no new settlements in the West Bank?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:19 AM (4df7R)

178 Y-5, Iranian nukes are baked in whatever cake Lurch and Barky are cooking up. This pair will really teach both the US and Israel that the US establishment doesn't give a rat's ass whether or not there is another country with nukes AND highly unstable senior leaders. Posted by: Hrothgar at April all the more, reason not to piss the pro-Israel Americans off. Pollard was not simply a spy he was a traitor, he roped his family into the mess and did so primarily to make money, which is why he offered his services to several countries before Israel. He should have gotten a dose of hot lead.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:19 AM (rDidD)

179 no way I'd do that without getting the ok from you first. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 02:10 PM (da5Wo) fnord (da5Wo) http://bit.ly/1qllm7i Just choose a username. It may not switch internal tabs, if it stays on the login screen look for tabs on the upper left. Basically it's a web interface for IRC chat. I just chose some obscure unused German channel.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 10, 2014 10:20 AM (qyfb5)

180 Precedent???? Posted by: All These Empty Cells At GITMO ok KSM the Blind Shiek

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 10:20 AM (zOTsN)

181 How the hell did have a cellphone to send messages to his gang???



Even stupid prisoners can be crafty.   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:20 AM (4df7R)

182 and to do what they think will make Jewish donors happy? not kidding Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 02:15 PM

Except for a few wacked-out Jewish extreme-lefties out in California, who in any case are too busy polishing Choom Boy's shoes to notice, I wouldn't think this gets the current administration much in the way of positive cred.

Most Jews I know would be happy to see Pollard stay right where he is. If they feel any conflict of loyalties, his case is not considered a "hill to die on" for the vast majority.

Posted by: MrScribbler at April 10, 2014 10:20 AM (dDzOj)

183 He's eligible for parole on 11/21/2015 which means he's eligible to be released to half way house either 6 months or a year before that date. So, we are quibbling over a few months. Key word in bold. There is NOT chance Pollard would be given parole, NONE.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 10:20 AM (0FSuD)

184 While there, I'd always have to pass a statue of LBJ that was in front of the Student Center. I never missed an opportunity to spit on it. Fucker. Posted by: SMFH at it all at April 10, 2014 02:17 PM (OsWis) LBJ is truly the father of our current clusterfuck.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 10, 2014 10:20 AM (bb5+k)

185 He would have used a popular euphemism. And obama knows that. But today obama praised Lyndon Johnson...for giving rights to Blacks. hahahahahahaha, that must've stung.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 10:20 AM (O96tM)

186 173 @141

EC after reading the story and noting the convict was a confirmed former Obama voter, I was not surprised by the stupidity.

Thugs do the darnedest things.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 02:17 PM (0FSuD)



1:  toss this guy's cell to search for more contraband.


2:  toss this guy's ass to search for more contraband.


3.  he just got another 15-20 years for kidnapping for ransom.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:21 AM (GQ8sn)

187 EC after reading the story and noting the convict was a confirmed former Obama voter, I was not surprised by the stupidity. Thugs do the darnedest things. Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 02:17 PM (0FSuD) Huh?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 10:21 AM (da5Wo)

188 How the hell did have a cellphone to send messages to his gang??? 1. Someone influenced a guard. 2. Someone influenced the lawyer. 3. Someone airdropped (quadcopter?) a phone into the yard during the twilight hours.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 10, 2014 10:21 AM (qKrH5)

189 He should have gotten a dose of hot lead. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 02:19 PM (rDidD) On that we fully agree!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 10, 2014 10:21 AM (o3MSL)

190 Johnson died in, when, 1973? There's a [real] photo of Johnson from the early 70's with him with long hair. It's funny.

Posted by: Soothsayer the Unstompable at April 10, 2014 10:22 AM (O96tM)

191 eligible for parole is not the same as paroled or served sentence. we have to reinvigorate "traitor" it is a word it has a meaning. you are able to do whatever you want, if it is treason there are consequences.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:22 AM (rDidD)

192 LBJ is truly the father of our current clusterfuck. FDR was, in my opinion. But I think LBJ was the dirty uncle of our current clusterfuck.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 10, 2014 10:22 AM (7ObY1)

193 It won't happen. Israeli governments pay lip service to Pollard but they don't give a shit about him... especially if it means releasing terrorists and freezing construction. Not even Pollard want to be released under those conditions. These talks are dead and the State Department has already denied it'll happen.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 10, 2014 10:22 AM (LiHKo)

194 Huh? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 02:21 PM (da5Wo) He's Black. Da huh.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 10:23 AM (0FSuD)

195 D-lamp, Reading about LBJ as a kid made me question the sanity and intellect of the Democratic Party at an early age...

Posted by: SMFH at it all at April 10, 2014 10:23 AM (OsWis)

196 This is the first link I get when searching "Pollard parole". Obviously it's pro-Pollard. Have not read it. But this purports to explain why he never applies.

Posted by: Beagle at April 10, 2014 10:23 AM (sOtz/)

197 Sheldon Adelson was allegedly asking Romney to press for Pollard's release during the election

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 10:24 AM (zOTsN)

198 He was spying for others? I did not know that. Who? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 10, 2014 02:19 PM (QFxY5) I'd have to go back and re-read the book by the NCIS guy who was investigating him back then, but it is true. Argentina rings a bell but as I said I'd have to go back and research it to be exact, but he was offering his services around.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 10:24 AM (t3UFN)

199 FDR was, in my opinion.

But I think LBJ was the dirty uncle of our current clusterfuck.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 10, 2014 02:22 PM (7ObY1)/i]



Wilson was the    patriarch.



FDR was the   heir apparent, LBJ was the sneaky uncle, and Jimmy Carter was the inbred cousin.



Obammy is, of course, the village idiot.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:24 AM (4df7R)

200 I think these two things from Pollard's wiki go together. Pollard is the only person in US history to receive a life sentence for spying for an ally, and the only American citizen convicted of such a crime to be sentenced to more than 10 years in prison. [...] As of 2014 the full extent of the information Pollard passed to Israel has still not been officially revealed. Press reports cited a secret 46-page memorandum, which Pollard and his attorneys were allowed to view.[36] They were provided to the judge by Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, who described Pollard's spying as including, among other things, obtaining and copying the latest version of Radio-Signal Notations (RASIN), a 10-volume manual comprehensively detailing America's global electronic surveillance network.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 10:25 AM (RJMhd)

201 He's Black. Da huh. Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 02:23 PM (0FSuD) Right. And that has what to do with anything?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 10:25 AM (da5Wo)

202 Then I'd start checking the offensive ones.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 10, 2014 02:01 PM (4CVLy)

I dropped my stripes.  I'm Mr.  If you address me as "sgt" I'll dick punch you.

My stripes to this nation are in the mud.  Fuck 'em.

But I'll fight.  If the IDF calls for help, I'm on a plane.

Posted by: tangonine at April 10, 2014 10:25 AM (x3YFz)

203 I remember when this idea was floated about a week ago.

I just cannot understand the Israelis agreeing to such a bad deal.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 10, 2014 10:25 AM (V70Uh)

204 I'm sure Israel would love to have back a man who got caught selling secrets to Pakistan and South Africa and (possibly) the USSR.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 10, 2014 10:25 AM (LiHKo)

205

who gives two shits?

none of this matters, same fucking headlines on "Middle East peace" every fucking day

 

 

Posted by: PeppermintPattysclitring at April 10, 2014 10:26 AM (GBl2T)

206 I am going to sneak in at night and steal Beth's close tags.  The barrel is hungry.

Posted by: Hentai Squid at April 10, 2014 10:26 AM (JtwS4)

207 Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 02:22 PM (rDidD) Too bad that the concept of treasonous or traitorous action seems to have become passé in our enlightened age.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 10, 2014 10:26 AM (o3MSL)

208 from the Daily Beast 8/26/12. I know I know In recent years, a string of former and current national-security officials and politicians have come out in favor of granting clemency to Pollard in part because he is the only spy for an allied nation to receive a life sentence. At the top of the list are James Woolsey, a former CIA director; Lawrence Korb, a former senior Pentagon official at the time of PollardÂ’s arrest in 1986; and Sen. John McCain.

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 10:26 AM (zOTsN)

209 Re:  the WF kidnap story, I told my wife that this looked like a successful home invasion.  There have been several of them around Raleigh where the attackers would force their way in and then try to coerce the victims to an ATM to clean out their bank accounts.  Jansen was missing for a week before this story broke.  I was right about the invasion part, but had no idea it went to the level of kidnapping for ransom.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:27 AM (GQ8sn)

210 But I think LBJ was the dirty uncle of our current clusterfuck.  Posted by: Citizen X at April 10, 2014 02:22 PM

I hate to say anything remotely positive about ol' Elbie Jay, but as crooked, power-hungry, devious and above-the-law as he was, I'm still going to say that he at least loved America, if rather often for the wrong reasons.

He was not a treasonous shitbag bent on exacting revenge from the citizens who elected him, unlike the current occupant of the White House.

Johnson was a crook; Choom Boy is a traitor. In that case, I'll have to go for the crook.

Posted by: MrScribbler at April 10, 2014 10:27 AM (dDzOj)

211 197. I saw that photo. he looks like an old lefty college professor trying to look hip....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 10, 2014 10:27 AM (7KnAA)

212 Right. And that has what to do with anything? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 02:25 PM (da5Wo) Hence the comment. 99.99% of Blacks voted for Obama. I said he is a confirmed Obama voter.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 10:27 AM (0FSuD)

213 John McCain what cant he fuck up

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 10:27 AM (zOTsN)

214 a 10-volume manual comprehensively detailing America's global electronic surveillance network ---- ---- ---- I'll take "lists which should never be compiled" for 1000, Alex.

Posted by: Beagle at April 10, 2014 10:27 AM (sOtz/)

215 In recent years, a string of former and current national-security officials and politicians have come out in favor of granting clemency to Pollard in part because he is the only spy for an allied nation to receive a life sentence. At the top of the list are James Woolsey, a former CIA director; Lawrence Korb, a former senior Pentagon official at the time of PollardÂ’s arrest in 1986; and Sen. John McCain. Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 02:26 PM (zOTsN) Yeah fine and dandy. But to co-mingle that with the Israel- Pali "peace" talks is lunacy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 10:28 AM (t3UFN)

216 If there's anything we should have learned in recent years, being *on the left* and helping the left are more important than whether you're a bigot, or a murderer, or an embezzler, or a gun smuggler, etc. Thus I have zero surprise that Zero praised Johnson.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 10, 2014 10:28 AM (qyfb5)

217 >>it is precedent setting we have never done this before July 30, 2013: "The United States released five inmates at Guantanamo Bay recently — a quiet attempt at jump-starting peace talks with members of the Taliban, an Israeli news outlet reported. A top U.S. official said the inmates were let go with the condition they would not commit any violent acts..."

Posted by: Lizzy at April 10, 2014 10:28 AM (gzJJ2)

218 Elbie Jay ---- ---- ---- El BJ

Posted by: Beagle at April 10, 2014 10:28 AM (sOtz/)

219 and Nobel Peace prizes for all.  yay.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 10, 2014 10:28 AM (BAS5M)

220 He offered his services to at least South Africa and Pakistan.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:28 AM (rDidD)

221 The deal will see an unspecified number of Palestinian prisoners released from Israel jails and a freeze on settlement construction in the West Bank. These deals tend to go flat

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at April 10, 2014 10:29 AM (aTXUx)

222 I am going to sneak in at night and steal Beth's close tags. The barrel is hungry.

Posted by: Hentai Squid at April 10, 2014 02:26 PM (JtwS4)/i]



Just try it, Squid boy.   I've been craving calamari.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:29 AM (4df7R)

223 Either Lady Bird or Liz Welch once said that after returning to the ranch LBJ could not adjust to retirement and used to hold "staff meetings" every morning with the (mostly) Mexicans that worked on his place. She said that, as many of the Mexicans didn't really speak English, it was extremely amusing to see.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 10, 2014 10:29 AM (z626/)

224 221 John McCain what cant he fuck up --- A Democrat campaign?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 10:29 AM (APuJ7)

225 Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) investigator Ronald Olive has alleged that Pollard passed classified information to South Africa,[29] and attempted, through a third party, to sell classified information to Pakistan on multiple occasions. *********** Pakistan.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 10:29 AM (RJMhd)

226 Hence the comment. 99.99% of Blacks voted for Obama. I said he is a confirmed Obama voter. Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 02:27 PM (0FSuD) And again, what does that have to do with anything about the story?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 10:29 AM (da5Wo)

227 A top U.S. official said the inmates were let go with the condition they would not commit any violent acts..." Posted by: Lizzy at April 10, 2014 02:28 PM (gzJJ2) No problem!

Posted by: Al Taqqiya at April 10, 2014 10:29 AM (o3MSL)

228

If you address me as "sgt" I'll dick punch you.

 

Lighten up, Tango.

Posted by: that drill Sgt from that movie at April 10, 2014 10:29 AM (JtwS4)

229 Besides, Israel gets Pollard, the Palestinians get terrorists, and what do we get? I don't know if it's been, ahhh, pointed out, but I, ahhh, get a Nobel Peace Prize.

Posted by: John Kerry at April 10, 2014 10:29 AM (ILBCY)

230 Yeah, the linkage to Peace Talks is not cromulent. What side does that mean we're on, when we're granting "concessions" to Israel on behalf of the Palestinian terrorists? Never mind.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 10:29 AM (ZshNr)

231 I dropped my stripes. I'm Mr. If you address me as "sgt" I'll dick punch you. I never really understood people insisting on being called by their former Military rank after retirement. Grandfather was O-6, retired. Father was E-8, retired. Brother is O-4, active but leaving. Each of them dropped the rank appellation as soon as they took off the uniform.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 10, 2014 10:30 AM (qKrH5)

232 EC, here is an updated story on kidnapping. Amazing the stupid. http://tinyurl.com/qg98asr

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 10:30 AM (0FSuD)

233 There have been several of them around Raleigh where the attackers would force their way in and then try to coerce the victims to an ATM to clean out their bank accounts. Jansen was missing for a week before this story broke. I was right about the invasion part, but had no idea it went to the level of kidnapping for ransom. Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 02:27 PM (GQ8sn) fnord (GQ8sn) O.o So, you thought someone kidnapped them for money, but you didn't think someone kidnapped them for money?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 10, 2014 10:30 AM (qyfb5)

234 Seriously, I don't know why I have so much trouble closing my italics lately!  WTH?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:30 AM (4df7R)

235 NCIS made accusations about him selling info to Pakistan and Afghanistan but that may be because what he was doing for Israel was getting info on those countries and others and not so much about the US as it was made out.

He made overtures to other pro American countries to sell info. (Australia being one)

He was sentenced to a longer sentence than any other spy spying for a friendly country.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 10, 2014 10:30 AM (JS0vr)

236 What % of Chinese are Christian? Seeing estimates ranging from 1% to 10%. Wiki Gods say 5%. 5% # is from Pew Forum. Which means 67M Christians in China. Which makes China the 7th largest Christian nation on the planet, in raw numbers. Whatever the #, Chicoms are feeling a bit threatened. DRUDGE REPORT ‏@DRUDGE_REPORT China cracks down on churches; Christianity's growth 'excessive'... http://drudge.tw/1mZKbqd

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 10, 2014 10:31 AM (ZPrif)

237 And again, what does that have to do with anything about the story? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 02:29 PM (da5Wo) Obama voters are thugs. That clear enough?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 10:31 AM (0FSuD)

238 Too bad that the concept of treasonous or traitorous action seems to have become passé in our enlightened age. Posted by: Hrothgar at April 10, 2014 it is all part of the "do not question my patriotism" thing. they are not gone, simply rarely discussed.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:31 AM (rDidD)

239
Pakistan.   Pockeestawn.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 02:29 PM (RJMhd)



"FIFY."



-Obammy


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:31 AM (4df7R)

240 221 John McCain what cant he fuck up Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 02:27 PM (zOTsN) Word!

Posted by: Train Wreck at April 10, 2014 10:31 AM (aTXUx)

241 >244 Seriously, I don't know why I have so much trouble closing my italics lately! WTH?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 10, 2014 02:30 PM (4df7R)<



Beth, as we get older, it is normal that we have some memory issues.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 10, 2014 10:32 AM (sjdRT)

242 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 10, 2014 02:30 PM (4df7R) I bet Beth knows how to close her italics!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 10, 2014 10:32 AM (o3MSL)

243 Current definition of treason: Releasing info that harms Obama.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 10, 2014 10:32 AM (gzJJ2)

244 233 221 John McCain


what cant he fuck up

---

A Democrat campaign?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 10, 2014 02:29 PM (APuJ7)



I'm sorry, are you trying to imply that his 2008 Presidential run was a REPUBLICAN campaign?   Because   I would argue it was not.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:32 AM (4df7R)

245 So, you thought someone kidnapped them for money, but you didn't think someone kidnapped them for money?

The kidnap for money part I understand, but I had no idea it was more about compelling an ADA to drop a case she was working on.  As far as the story says, no money was involved.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:32 AM (GQ8sn)

246 Interesting that Christianity seems to have taken stronger root in China than India. I would think the anglo tradition in India would help Christianity spread.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 10, 2014 10:33 AM (ZPrif)

247 He was sentenced to a longer sentence than any other spy spying for a friendly country. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 10, 2014 02:30 PM (JS0vr) That may be true, but he still did it for money and the vast amount of info he stole may actually have warranted the sentence. But be that as it may, involving pollard in the "peace" talks is absurd

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 10:33 AM (t3UFN)

248 240 ---What side does that mean we're on, when we're granting "concessions" to Israel on behalf of the Palestinian terrorists? Never mind. Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 02:29 PM (ZshNr) ------------------- The inmates are running the asylum.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 10, 2014 10:33 AM (dfYL9)

249 who cares if his sentence was longer than anyone else's? someone has to have the longest sentence. he is not getting the longest sentence because it is Israel or because he is Jewish. Maybe we should be asking why anyone gets released?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:34 AM (rDidD)

250 Beth, as we get older, it is normal that we have some memory issues.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 10, 2014 02:32 PM (sjdRT)



*smacksmacksmacksmack!*




I bet Beth knows how to close her italics!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 10, 2014 02:32 PM (o3MSL)



Beth's not the boss of me!  *foot stomp!*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:34 AM (4df7R)

251 As far as the story says, no money was involved. Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 02:32 PM (GQ8sn) fnord (GQ8sn) You read the article? That's cheating!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 10, 2014 10:34 AM (qyfb5)

252 Obama voters are thugs. That clear enough? Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 02:31 PM (0FSuD) Not really. So are all Obama voters thugs? All black people thugs? What's the formula here?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 10:34 AM (da5Wo)

253 246 What % of Chinese are Christian? Seeing estimates ranging from 1% to 10%. Wiki Gods say 5%. 5% # is from Pew Forum. Which means 67M Christians in China. Which makes China the 7th largest Christian nation on the planet, in raw numbers. Whatever the #, Chicoms are feeling a bit threatened. DRUDGE REPORT ‏@DRUDGE_REPORT China cracks down on churches; Christianity's growth 'excessive'... http://drudge.tw/1mZKbqd" There was a study of Twitter patterns in China recently. I wish I had a link. Jesus Christ is the most popular person discussed and he dwarves mention of Mao and Marx by like at least 10:1.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 10, 2014 10:35 AM (LiHKo)

254 OT: Is there an effective way to search a series of threads from long ago for some research short of asking the NSA? The approach I tried was to clumsy to cover much ground. Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 10, 2014 10:35 AM (l3vZN)

255 And, I do not give a rats ass about any dual citizenship issue, if you have U.S. citizenship and you spy on the U.S. you are a traitor. bullet, blindfold, smoke.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:36 AM (rDidD)

256 Kerry is trying to save face, which is probably a good deal when face is all you got.

Posted by: Fritz at April 10, 2014 10:36 AM (UzPAd)

257 256 Interesting that Christianity seems to have taken stronger root in China than India.

I would think the anglo tradition in India would help Christianity spread.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 10, 2014 02:33 PM (ZPrif)


Hindu nationalism is very strong and they guard zealously against the growth of Christianity. Also, the anglo tradition might be more of a bug than a feature in India.

Posted by: joncelli at April 10, 2014 10:36 AM (RD7QR)

258

I don't believe that Netanyahu will allow Israel to get the shaft.  Kerry is botox addled dunce and no match for Bibi.

Posted by: Cheri at April 10, 2014 10:37 AM (G+Wff)

259 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 10, 2014 02:34 PM (4df7R) You know, my wife has an evil alter-ego named "Amy" who is (apparently) black. Maybe "Beth" is your evil alter-ego. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 10, 2014 02:34 PM (da5Wo) I'm betting if you drew a Venn diagram with circle 1 being "Obama Voters" and circle 2 being "Thugs", #2 would be wholly (or almost wholly) contained with #1. Of course, there's at least some room left over in #1.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 10, 2014 10:37 AM (PYAXX)

260 My apologies for off topic, but the killer of four year old Lily at daycare in Orlando yesterday has not yet been found and running in his rented black SUV, FL tag CHR-Q41.

Lily Quintus was four years old and killed sitting at a table in Kindercare having a snack.


http://tinyurl.com/kh795bn

There is now a $5,000 reward for information on Robert Alex Corchado leading to his capture. He is a repeat felon for over a decade, prisoner, drug trafficker, and another hit and run in December 2013 within 500 feet of another daycare (in this one he was carrying almost $7k in cash along with cocaine, heroin, pot and Molly. Plus a loaded 45 pistol.

Be on lookout for black SUV, FL tag CHR-Q41. Rented from Winter Park Florida.

He is considered dangerous. If seen call 911 or FHP @
Florida Highway Patrol at 407-737-2200.

Please post to your social networks. I know I have asked a few times, and sorry to keep repeating, but he is still at large. Thank you.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at April 10, 2014 10:37 AM (baL2B)

261 As far as the story says, no money was involved. Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 02:32 PM (GQ8sn) fnord (GQ8sn) With Pollard? He got regular payments

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 10:37 AM (t3UFN)

262 Holy crap, these are true scumbags...

Agents found Maynard's children there alone and took them into protective custody, Jessup told a magistrate.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)

263 They've gone full Biden. You don't never go full Biden.

Posted by: --- at April 10, 2014 10:38 AM (MMC8r)

264 With Pollard? He got regular payments


No, I'm referring to the Wake Forest, NC kidnap story.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:38 AM (GQ8sn)

265 There are a lot of Christians in India, particularly near Goa, where the Portugese had a colony.  The upper castes don't care for it.  But the untouchables love it. 

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 10, 2014 10:38 AM (V70Uh)

266 release the biden!

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:38 AM (rDidD)

267 Please post to your social networks. I know I have asked a few times, and sorry to keep repeating, but he is still at large. Thank you.



He'll be found. 


And then stomped on.  Hard.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:39 AM (GQ8sn)

268 I think that releasing Pollard under the various discussed conditions is a slightly better choice than keeping him. The actions he did really do deserve the punishment of life without parole. However, there are politicians involved, with major political goals, so he's likely to be let loose ... so let's hang the inevitable failure of their policies AND Pollard's release on the politicians. Further, Pollard is getting to the age and physical condition where he's going to need increasing amounts of medical care. I'd rather not pay for this, at least not directly, and if there is to be litigation about his standard of care, let other do the litigating and make bad law outside the US.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 10, 2014 10:39 AM (FlRtG)

269 Interesting that Christianity seems to have taken stronger root in China than India. I would think the anglo tradition in India would help Christianity spread. Posted by: Costanza Defense Couple of Centuries of Missionaries? Association of Christians with individual freedom? I dunno either.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 10, 2014 10:39 AM (kmlM7)

270 we have to reinvigorate "traitor" it is a word it has a meaning. you are able to do whatever you want, if it is treason there are consequences. Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 02:22 PM (rDidD) I thought Jane Fonda should have been shot. Now she's getting old, and is whining about her misspent life. Would have solved both problems.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 10, 2014 10:39 AM (bb5+k)

271 Each of them dropped the rank appellation as soon as they took off the uniform.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 10, 2014 02:30 PM (qKrH5)

Fuck that!

From now on I am going to call my dad, "Private!"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 10, 2014 10:39 AM (QFxY5)

272

Hilarious news.  We ought to just consider ourselves lucky kerry went with the "carrot" approach and offered Pollard in exchange for the terrorist release and settlement postponment.   Anything is possible with a guy like Kerry in charge.

 

For  example,   instead of an inducement to Israel  he might have gone with the "stick" approach and offered U.S. troops as Palestinian protectors from Israeli attack, a la Samantha Power.  

Posted by: MTF at April 10, 2014 10:40 AM (LISuA)

273 OT, but    here's your daily   dose of    TSA rage!


TSA bars mute stroke victim from flight, forces 8-hour bus ride

NY Post:



A woman claims an airport security agent refused to let her disabled sister on board a plane because she couldnÂ’t say her own name.


Sherry Wright says she was shocked at the treatment they received at Los Angeles International Airport, where her sister Heidi was due to fly to Phoenix.


The problems began when Heidi, who was left wheelchair-bound and unable to speak or write after a stroke a decade ago, was stopped by the Transportation Security Administration due to an expired driverÂ’s license, CNN reported.


Wright claims the TSA agent was rude and insensitive, insisting Heidi talk.


“I showed her ID, her (Social Security card) and her DMV papers,” Wright said, to no avail.


“He just wanted me to make my sister talk, and I couldn’t believe it.


“I was just standing there, tears were coming out and I was like, ‘Are you serious? We can’t get her to talk.’”...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:40 AM (4df7R)

274 *cough*  NY Post link... http://tiny.cc/f653dx


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:41 AM (4df7R)

275 And teh Palestinians have to do is take their released prisoners, say "Thank you - please start "Peace Process"...that's enough.  Now all of you go die."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Days of Rage Sale at the Outrage Outlet! at April 10, 2014 10:41 AM (hLRSq)

276 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 10, 2014 02:40 PM (4df7R) I'm flying tomorrow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 10, 2014 10:41 AM (t3UFN)

277 @263 How long do you have? Don't bait me. Here's a start for you in just NYC. http://tinyurl.com/qcurn8u Google up Black crime stats, come back in a month after you finish reading them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 10:41 AM (0FSuD)

278 What's this, Susan Rice and John Kerry got in a room together and decided to negotiate against each other and use that result? Why don't we throw in a few other bobbles, like unilateral dismantling of a missile defense system, and maybe something along the lines of unilateral destruction of our economic system? Do you think then they'll give us a few more large scale terrorist attacks in exchange? Goody, goody, the geniuses are in charge.

Posted by: doug at April 10, 2014 10:41 AM (uJ8q7)

279 If Pollard is considered a bargaining chip of sorts, and since he has a definite shelf life expiration date of 15 months or so, I don't care if they deal him off a few months early. He's been in prison for over 28 years, which is more time than most murderers serve.
 
My only concern is that John Kerry, who was once outsmarted by an amoeba, is for it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2014 10:41 AM (wNF3N)

280 Further, Pollard is getting to the age and physical condition where he's going to need increasing amounts of medical care. I'd rather not pay for this, at least not directly, and if there is to be litigation about his standard of care, let other do the litigating and make bad law outside the US. Posted by: Arbalest at April 10, 2014 yeah well walking around in shackels and depends probably sucks and as long as we have an empty cell,

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:41 AM (rDidD)

281 I was confused here for a minute, too. The ransom in he WF case was the daughter dropping the case, if he article gets the basic summary right.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 10:41 AM (ZshNr)

282 OT, but here's your daily dose of TSA rage!



If the oceans were ink and the skies were canvas, there wouldn't be enough of either to document all the abuses by the TSA.


Fuck them.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:42 AM (GQ8sn)

283 Reading about LBJ as a kid made me question the sanity and intellect of the Democratic Party at an early age... Posted by: SMFH at it all at April 10, 2014 02:23 PM (OsWis) There is no need to question their sanity if you just remember that they are vile and corrupt. They simply did not care about the long term consequences of LBJ policies. They only cared about the fact that LBJ's policies flipped the script on the Republicans, and gained them enough votes to stay in power. LBJ's "War on Poverty" was a master stroke of political genius. That it was the seeds of destruction for the nation simply did not occur to, or concern him.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 10, 2014 10:42 AM (bb5+k)

284 256 Interesting that Christianity seems to have taken stronger root in China than India. I would think the anglo tradition in India would help Christianity spread. Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 10, 2014 02:33 PM (ZPrif) ------------------------ It is interesting. My Chinese SIL thinks that part of it is that China does not have a RELIGIOUS component of ethnic identity. You can be Marxist, Christian, Confucian, Daoist, Buddhist, and still be considered 100% Chinese. In India, you're not really quite Hindi unless you're Hindu. I also find it fascinating that Korea is so very Christian while Japan is not. Who knows?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 10, 2014 10:42 AM (dfYL9)

285 No T's on my tablet.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 10:43 AM (ZshNr)

286 279 I think that releasing Pollard under the various discussed conditions is a slightly better choice than keeping him. The actions he did really do deserve the punishment of life without parole. However, there are politicians involved, with major political goals, so he's likely to be let loose ... so let's hang the inevitable failure of their policies AND Pollard's release on the politicians. Further, Pollard is getting to the age and physical condition where he's going to need increasing amounts of medical care. I'd rather not pay for this, at least not directly, and if there is to be litigation about his standard of care, let other do the litigating and make bad law outside the US. Posted by: Arbalest at April 10, 2014 02:39 PM (FlRtG) **************** Problem is---we've had espionage on the uptick lately. It costs more than medical bills--it might cost the lives of the very military that are willing to die for their country--and to me--they are worth more than anything.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 10:43 AM (RJMhd)

287 If Pollard is considered a bargaining chip of sorts, and since he has a definite shelf life expiration date of 15 months or so, I don't care if they deal him off a few months early. He's been in prison for over 28 years, which is more time than most murderers serve. My only concern is that John Kerry, who was once outsmarted by an amoeba, is for it. Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2014 he was eligible for parole not necessarily getting parole.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:43 AM (rDidD)

288 In other news, the Yankees announced a trade in which Boston gets   Brett Gardner and the Orioles get David Ortiz....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 10, 2014 10:43 AM (7KnAA)

289 I was confused here for a minute, too. The ransom in he WF case was the daughter dropping the case, if he article gets the basic summary right.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 10, 2014 02:41 PM (ZshNr)



Yes.  The daughter was the ADA that prosecuted the original case that landed Melton in jail serving a life sentence.  Melton somehow communicated to his gang to kidnap her father and then compel her to drop the case against him.  When the guards found out he had a phone, he barricaded the cell door and smashed the phone.  Somehow, they were still able to retrieve information off of it.



Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:45 AM (GQ8sn)

290 Wiki gods say India is 2.6% Christian, 32M. Not sure how fast it's growing though. Seeing numerous claims that Christianity is growing faster in China than pretty much anywhere else on the planet. Starting from a low base, of course. Hard to get good stats, but China's actions to block church building while claiming "excessive growth" seem to support the claims.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 10, 2014 10:45 AM (ZPrif)

291 not even hillary, who got the puerto rican terorists released, was down with this.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:45 AM (rDidD)

292 I also find it fascinating that Korea is so very Christian while Japan is not.

Who knows?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 10, 2014 02:42 PM (dfYL9)



The Pope went there in the early-mid 80's and converted a ton of them to Catholicism.  Going strong since then.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:46 AM (GQ8sn)

293 The earlier discussion of Hillary Clinton got me thinking about the feminist line of "wait until we get women in charge." I'd never really given any thought as to why that always bothered me so much until now. I just realized it is as every bit as dehumanizing to women as the "men are evil" bit is to men. The line between good and evil is drawn in the heart of every man. Sooo, that's pretty O/T. Sorry, and I'm a slow learner.

Posted by: no good deed at April 10, 2014 10:46 AM (ILBCY)

294

Chinese churches are two:

 

Catholic church, which begs for state sanction; dead religion in China for most part.

 

Evangelical church, which doesn't give a fuck about the state, this is growing like wildfire.

 

 

Posted by: prescient11 at April 10, 2014 10:46 AM (tVTLU)

295 WTF?


The White House         @WhiteHouse


President Obama: "We are here today because we know we cannot be complacent. History travels not only forwards, but backwards and sideways."

1:39 PM - 10 Apr 2014




Yes,  history travels backwards, folks.   So if we all think REALLY REALLY HARD, maybe we can make it so Obammy was never born.   Ready?  GO!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 10, 2014 10:46 AM (4df7R)

296 FDR was, in my opinion. But I think LBJ was the dirty uncle of our current clusterfuck. Posted by: Citizen X at April 10, 2014 02:22 PM (7ObY1) FDR laid a lot of groundwork for a socialist state, and it got far more out of control than even he envisioned. (He was dead set against public employee unions.) However, we might have recovered, or perhaps managed to pay for FDR's programs. Not only has Lyndon Johnson cost the nation 21 trillion dollars in his democrat vote buying scheme, he has secured countless elections for the party that is deadly and destructive to the national interests. That vote buying scheme has kept that vile and corrupt party in positions of influence. It elected Carter, Clinton and this current idiot fuckwad. FDR started the ball rolling, but LBJ spun it up to light speed.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 10, 2014 10:46 AM (bb5+k)

297 298 y5 sez -- he was eligible for parole not necessarily getting parole.
 
I quote wiki:
 
Jonathan Jay Pollard (born August 7, 1954) is an American convicted of passing classified information to Israel while working as a civilian intelligence analyst.[1] He pleaded guilty and received a life sentence in 1987. Because his crime occurred prior to November 1, 1987, he is eligible for parole after 30 years in prison provided he continues to maintain a clean record, and may be released on November 21, 2015.
 
With his powerful friends, it's highly unlikely he WON'T be paroled then.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2014 10:47 AM (wNF3N)

298 President Obama: "We are here today because we know we cannot be complacent. History travels not only forwards, but backwards and sideways."



I'll take mixed metaphors for $200, Alex.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:48 AM (GQ8sn)

299 Wilson was the patriarch. FDR was the heir apparent, LBJ was the sneaky uncle, and Jimmy Carter was the inbred cousin. Obammy is, of course, the village idiot. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 10, 2014 02:24 PM (4df7R) A lot of us Republicans want to believe the out of control Federal Behemoth started with Wilson. It is my observation that it started with Lincoln, and went through Teddy Roosevelt too. Wilson was the third, in massive expansion of Federal power.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 10, 2014 10:49 AM (bb5+k)

300 303 I also find it fascinating that Korea is so very Christian while Japan is not. Who knows?!? Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 10, 2014 02:42 PM (dfYL9) The Pope went there in the early-mid 80's and converted a ton of them to Catholicism. Going strong since then." No. Most Christians in South Korea are Protestant. Missionaries arrived in the late 19th century and when the Japanese took over the country in 1905, missionaries strongly identified themselves with the independence movement. Some were even executed for it. That bought a lot of good will. Coupled with that, South Korea has had a substantial American military presence since the early 1950s. Japan exterminated all of its Christians in the 1600s and then shut itself off.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 10, 2014 10:49 AM (LiHKo)

301 Last 4 times I've flown I was pulled out of line for secondary inspection by the TSA. 4 fucking times in a row. My duffel bag is a camo bag, I also use it for hunting. It's either the camo (signalling that I'm a whacko-bird gun nut ZOMG) Or the NSA monitoring my online activity. Or my dark brown skin. Rayciss TSA.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 10, 2014 10:49 AM (7ObY1)

302 303 The Pope went there in the early-mid 80's and converted a ton of them to Catholicism. Going strong since then. Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 02:46 PM (GQ8sn) -------------- Korea? Sure, there is a growing Catholic presence, but the vast majority of Korean Christians are Protestant.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 10, 2014 10:50 AM (dfYL9)

303 Nood farts.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2014 10:50 AM (d0Dmj)

304 Now she's getting old, and is whining about her misspent life people hating her for the shit she did.

She doesn't regret giving aid and comfort to an enemy during wartime, she regrets we found out about it.

Posted by: HR at April 10, 2014 10:50 AM (ZKzrr)

305 With his powerful friends, it's highly unlikely he WON'T be paroled then. Posted by: GnuBreed at April I am fine with taking a wait and see approach to his parole. It is better than giving him away under these circumstances.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 10, 2014 10:51 AM (rDidD)

306 219 197. I saw that photo. he looks like an old lefty college professor trying to look hip.... Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 10, 2014 02:27 PM (7KnAA) It's my understanding that he came up through the education system, so that's probably not all that far off.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 10, 2014 10:51 AM (bb5+k)

307 LBJ's "War on Poverty" was a master stroke of political genius. That it was the seeds of destruction for the nation simply did not occur to, or concern him. Posted by: D-Lamp Word. LBJ is credited to bringing the electric grid to rural Texas in the 50s-60s. I live way out in the country and pay the highest electric bills I've ever paid in my life. Unintended consequences. "You mean someone will have to clean up my mess?"

Posted by: Daybrother at April 10, 2014 10:51 AM (eS0Bb)

308 Incidentally, I went to read the lengthy wiki entry on Pollard as I didn't really know that much about his case. Now I do.
 
He is scum. So is his (ex)wife. I'm not defending him.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2014 10:51 AM (wNF3N)

309 And, like a specter, it disappears again.

Posted by: joncelli at April 10, 2014 10:51 AM (RD7QR)

310 The nood is gone. See Beans on Toast really is the scourge of us all!!!

Posted by: no good deed at April 10, 2014 10:52 AM (ILBCY)

311 WTF? Nood farting thread just went poof! Like a fart in a windstorm.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2014 10:52 AM (d0Dmj)

312 So if we all think REALLY REALLY HARD, maybe we can make it so Obammy was never born.

"You know, Stanley Ann, you don't have to be punished with that baby."

Posted by: HR at April 10, 2014 10:52 AM (ZKzrr)

313 And it's back! Nood.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2014 10:52 AM (d0Dmj)

314 Gone like a birth control pill on Sandy Fluke's nightstand.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 10, 2014 10:52 AM (7ObY1)

315 I posted a comment there...I think I have the vapors.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 10, 2014 10:53 AM (l3vZN)

316 Korea? Sure, there is a growing Catholic presence, but the vast majority of Korean Christians are Protestant.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 10, 2014 02:50 PM (dfYL9)



Yes.

Posted by: EC at April 10, 2014 10:53 AM (GQ8sn)

317 Maybe Obama was referring to The Yardbirds, "Over Under Sideways Down."

Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 10, 2014 10:53 AM (7KnAA)

318 With his powerful friends, it's highly unlikely he WON'T be paroled then. Posted by: GnuBreed at April 10, 2014 02:47 PM (wNF3N) He has powerful enemies also, include entire CIA.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 10, 2014 10:54 AM (0FSuD)

319 In New Jersey there are plenty of Korean Presbyterian Churches...

Posted by: JoeyBagels at April 10, 2014 10:54 AM (7KnAA)

320 Korea? Sure, there is a growing Catholic presence, but the vast majority of Korean Christians are Protestant. -------- Well sure.

Posted by: Zombie Rev Moon at April 10, 2014 10:58 AM (18v6B)

321 She's no  Baroness Velma, that's for  sure, eh Scoob?

Posted by: Shaggy at April 10, 2014 10:58 AM (BAS5M)

322 297 tasker at April 10, 2014 02:43 PM (RJMhd) Problem is---we've had espionage on the uptick lately. It costs more than medical bills--it might cost the lives of the very military that are willing to die for their country--and to me--they are worth more than anything. I'm uncertain if espionage is on the uptick or not. But, because Pollard has become a political pawn, politicians and politics are what matters. The way to deal with politicians is to force or let them fail as spectacularly and publicly as possible. This likely means that Pollard goes free. Left unsaid is his life outside the US prison system. He's young enough to work and care for himself, but old enough to be unable to do manual labor, and too far out of "2014 Technical Stuff" to be hired at anything that pays well. Will the Israelis carry him? How long? I'd like to the deal involving Pollard fail epicly, and then see him live the potential life of Nidal Hassan in Gaza ... wheelchair-bound, no skills, no connections, no money ... likely living on the street ... in Gaza.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 10, 2014 10:59 AM (FlRtG)

323 "WTF. If this goes through, the next Conservative President should send a hit squad after Pollard." Then he's safe.

Posted by: whoever at April 10, 2014 11:00 AM (pjMym)

324 Peace is not a process.

Posted by: whoever at April 10, 2014 11:04 AM (pjMym)

325 The team of Kerry and Obama are even worse negotiators than the Palestinians.

Posted by: Jethro Bodine at April 10, 2014 11:14 AM (e8kgV)

326 The Israelis ought to do to the oblahblah/skerri comedy team what the palisimians do to the Israelis; agree to the offer, take the bennys, renege on the offer.

Posted by: just passin by at April 10, 2014 11:30 AM (A9KzJ)

327 Orlando hit and run child murderer is a gang-banger. I am shocked!

Ties to Latin Kings gang (friends who helped?)

http://tinyurl.com/nltlzdv

Morons in Florida/Georgia, etc:


*****Mazda CX-5 or CX-9 SUV with a Florida license tag of CHR-Q41 *******

There is a $5,000 reward for information leading to the capture of Robert Corchado. He is considered dangerous. Be on the look out for the black Mazda SUV. If seen call 911 or FHP @ 407-737-2200.


Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at April 10, 2014 11:31 AM (baL2B)

328 I'm uncertain if espionage is on the uptick or not. ******** Ya--I worded that wrong. I probably should have said that it has been in the headlines a lot lately and the American public is becoming more tolerant of it. The timing of releasing Pollard now would be a bad idea I think.

Posted by: tasker at April 10, 2014 11:36 AM (RJMhd)

329 My thinking is that Kerry is trying to make Hillary Clinton look like a better Secretary of State in contrast to his performance. This will help Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign in 2016. Expect more of this kind of thing.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 10, 2014 11:43 AM (PD6iL)

330 This sounds like a really good trade

Posted by: teh Minnesota Vikings at April 10, 2014 11:49 AM (z+4T3)

331 "Johnson at least had a big dick and knew how to waggle it to get things done.* *(not that his soul should ever have the barbed cock of Satan removed from its ass for continuing the VietNam war 50,000 dead American past the point where he knew it was unwinnable). Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 10, 2014 02:09 PM (JtwS4)" The war in Vietnam was winnable and the proof is that it was won in Vietnam. After the US troops were gone in 1972, the North Vietnamese invaded the south with more armored vehicles than Heinz Guderian used to overrun France in 1940. The North Vietnamese force was expunged from existence by the South Vietnamese. Three years later, when the Democrats had veto proof majorities in both houses of Congress in the wake of the Watergate Scandal, they cut off all financial and military aid to South Vietnam and this time when the North Vietnamese attacked, the South Vietnamese ran out of ammunition and they were not resupplied. So the War in Vietnam was winnable because it was won in Vietnam but Democrats were working for the other side so the war was lost in Washington DC. While LBJ may well merit some quality time with Satan's barbed cock, it would be for other matters and Satan has plenty of other Democrats who deserve his attentions for wasting the lives of so many people in Vietnam.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 10, 2014 11:53 AM (PD6iL)

332 US Will Release Traitor/Spy Jonathan Pollard, to Induce Israel to Release... Palestinian Terrorists





Barry: We prefer the term freedom fighters. Allah Akbar!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 10, 2014 12:23 PM (1Jaio)

333 So how about we just move DC to Tel Aviv and skip all the theatrics.

Posted by: YourMomKeepsTexting at April 10, 2014 12:51 PM (1Xtps)

334 Ref comment #38
"terrible terrible idea and establishes a terrible terrible precident

Posted by: thunderb at April 10, 2014 01:55 PM (zOTsN)"

- - - - - - - - - -

Clownface Obumblefuck's administration will be remembered in history books as "The Presidency which established the greatest number of God-awful, immoral, illegal, unwise, ill-considered, and just-plain-STUPID precedents in the entire history of our Republic."

No matter how many dolts, idiots, or parasites may be elected President in the future, I guaran-damn-tee you that Barky's record will stand for all time.

He  *IS*  that bad.



Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at April 10, 2014 01:10 PM (si7HJ)

335 You just have to love it. The self proclaimed smartest people in the world rolled by the Sons of Jacob. I refer the "geniuses" in this administration to Genesis Chapter 29, verses 25 through 43.

Posted by: Call me Ishmael at April 10, 2014 01:17 PM (1mtKP)

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